general-feedback-discussion

[brisk portal]

where tho?

evrima troubleshooting?

[vestal rune]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[spiral ravine]

@teal eagle you have no idea what you're talking about

legacy has broken base code that literally can't be fixed and is impossible to implement new features

evrima is superior in every aspect except one: it's still new so it doesn't have as many creature selections

and that will get better over time

legacy is literally 80% apexes + other dinos, no collision, broken hitbox, broken net code, and your "other dino games" devs are responsible for that mind you, they are the ex isle devs that broke legacy

[warm flame]

@wide night I'm pretty sure that's purposeful, it wasn't like that, it's probably so people are more vulnerable to deinos or they go that deep so the deinos can sense them
though might be changed in the future

[muted isle]

@teal eagle The deino growls are terrifying, I don't understand what you mean. Evrima is becoming Legacy, just a lot, lot better. You can't expect Evrima to have the same amount of dinos as Legacy, which has been out for years. They spent a year building the game up from the bottom and are now able to pump out updates a lot more frequently thanks to the base of the game being complete. And I'm not sure if you have noticed but the Evrima official servers are always full. To give you a perspective, it's 5 AM in my EU country rn, and all EU servers are 100/100.

To add, whoever made the sound for the Deino, big UPS to you. Cause holy shit, it is sooo good. And the animations on the 1st and 3rd call is terrifying

[worn pumice]

A lot of points u made can easily be refuted TT_Bugeyes

First of all no wonder u don’t hear apex calls, it’s probably cuz there aren’t any lol

And the points u made about deino

Firstly it’s footsteps, their not supposed to be loud, again it’s just a giant gator

Also the animation is ur opinion so I won’t refute that if u don’t like it even if many others do including me

Now the suspense part

That’s still there

Deino is probably the best anxiety type dino ever added lol any time u drink now it feels like ur gonna be lunged and adds more suspension then legacy ever had

Even on land ur still subjected to the suspense by a carno or Utah

This will only get better with time as more dinosaurs are included

[wide night]

@warm flame You're probably right about the sense in water part, but that doesn't mean it should be a feature. Not only is it just for being vulnerable, but it makes drinking inconsistent and frustrating. I definitely think the water sense for drinking should stay, I'm not saying that it should be removed. However, if it is related to the issue then the way it worked would hopefully be changed.

[warm flame]

they'll probably change it when the new water is added

[worn pumice]

New water

[swift dew]

what I got from the stress test alone is already better than legacy (I havn't played the update yet) but if the update is just a more polished version of the stress test I dont know how people can say legacy is better, because it just isnt. the only three things legacy has over evrima is nesting, a decent size roster, and the nostalgia factor. thats it.

[worn pumice]

I still don’t understand how ppl find legacy more engaging to play then evrima lol

[rugged quarry]

Nostalgia glasses+new=scary=bad mentality

[worn pumice]

Like there’s more suspension in evrima then legacy ever had

Deino being the main reason

Can’t wait till perks elders and diets

Game changing mechanics

[warm flame]

the nightvision can make it scary, more variety, and some people's computers can't handle evrima

[wide night]

Most people from what I heard say that legacy is "more scary", but literally all that legacy has over Evrima atm for the atmosphere is darker night, music, and large terrestrial predators.

[swift dew]

honestly, nightvision isnt even scary in legacy. its just boring, since you can't do anything other than die to dilos

[silver zephyr]

tbf those are pretty big factors, although I think deino alone makes the game insanely suspenseful

[warm flame]

once I was a juvi dilo and a full grown carno faded in and out of my night vision, was pretty spooky if I say so myself

[worn pumice]

Tbh nv rly isn’t that scary

Felt more like it just got in the way

Ppl could just use gamma plus the whole nv system wasn’t that good

Yea that wasn’t too fun either

[icy lion]

they said "keep global out" krayt lol

[warm flame]

I only played on official servers to avoid global

[wide night]

Not really that nightvision is scary, it more just adds to the atmosphere

[warm flame]

I want to play evrima a lot more but it's too laggy for me so I have to stick with legacy

[median karma]

Legacy was the best theres no doubt, it’s we’re I started and I enjoyed it so much but Evrima leaps and bounds over legacy!! This is were it’s at guys and this is just the beginning!

[warm flame]

legacy night vision could be scary with the right circumstances, key words is the right circumstances

[dense vale]

i just miss getting double the frames

[worn pumice]

They rly need to push out some optimization fixes so it’s atleast as good as legacy to run

[warm flame]

if the devs do that I will be very happy

[worn pumice]

Some ppl rly just can’t run evrima in the first place so

[swift dew]

now imagine if evrima launched with isla spero... you would be getting 1/4 of the frames your getting now at best

[dense vale]

yay

[still raptor]

Evrima is supposed to run better than Legacy. Sadly its great an all, but the Spero was more optimized than current Spiro

[warm flame]

honestly, I've gotten bored of legacy, I want to try out evrima since it's like the only game rn that actually offers unique abilities to the creatures but sadly as of rn the lag just makes it un playable for me, even with the lowest settings I get like 15 fps at most

[still raptor]

Not really

[swift dew]

idk about that, all the ocean of spero would absolutly masacre my frames

[still raptor]

Its been said by the developers multiple times that Spero was optimized

[warm flame]

tbh the devs should remove the parts of the unplayable area we can't see to help increase framerate

[still raptor]

Like really really good optimization

Or just let us play on the AI test level that amarok does his ai on

[warm flame]

honestly, if I could do that, I'd be happy, I just wanna play evrima without lagging to where I basically play

[still raptor]

I just want Spero.

[warm flame]

I want a non-laggy map

[still raptor]

You aren’t going to get a non laggy map anyways

[warm flame]

[still raptor]

Evrima maps run on tiles

If you run over tiles you get lag

[warm flame]

tiles?

[still raptor]

Plus some spots will be naturally better than others

[still raptor]

Kinda like chunk loading but a lot different

[elder rivet]

one tile equals one kilometer, so run about 900 meters and the next tile loads up

[warm flame]

ah I've seen that, it takes so long for those to load in for me

@swift palm as much as I want to agree with you, that scent cloud is a warning saying there are either people mixpacking or overpacking so that's needed

[swift palm]

its if 3 or more are with in a certain distance if any other dino wants to hide their scent they wallow deinos cant do that

[warm flame]

tbh deino should be given a unique wallow that it does underwater where it- nvm that'd probably come off

[warm flame]

that's the point, those deinos are overpacking, that orange cloud is a warning to anyone who smells it

[swift palm]

still makes no sense how you can smell something underwater it wasn't like that a the Q&A like i said on land and on the surface makes sense but underwater does not and there are servers that have different pack limits

[warm flame]

it kinda does if you think about it, Imma try to explain and likely fail

I'd imagine that you could still smell the water where they were or are, kinda like tracks, the water will still smell from their presence, that was my attempt of explaining

[swift palm]

if im understanding you correctly standing water maybe but not a river,only thing that this does is make lets say 2 adults not want to have any juvies or hatchlings around to give them away because that's how I noticed the herd scent another player and i where helping someone new to the game (I may be wrong but I don't see any rules for evrima so going by the legacy rules juvies don't count towards pack limit) ,so when nesting comes in how are the adult meant to keep track of the babies if 1) only 2 deinos in a group and 2) you give off herd scent underwater when trying to feed said babu's

[elfin compass]

Having problems wih Evrima performance

Its so laggy for me I can't even talk while connected in a voice chat

Even with low settings

[mellow sphinx]

I'm having performance issues on evrima as well, I used to run evrima around 70-80 FPS on 2560x1440 and epic-cinematic settings, now i get around 40 fps with all epic settings after the latest update. It was also like this during the stress test

[dense vale]

i went from like 60 to 40 also

[jade glacier]

anyone know why my head snapps into the air when sitting on bottom of river as a croc?

[warm flame]

ah didn't think about the difference of standing and flowing water, yeah makes more sense now

[worn pumice]

It’s a bug pls report it as well in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

Has something to do with the IK with deino

[rocky iris]

@teal eagle

Ok, So I've been trying to get into evrima game play. I'm just not feeling it, i gave it plenty of time, and still think legacy is much better game play. Evrima only has aesthetics which is nice, but the overall game play is lacking and I cant put my finger on it. I know it lacks the suspense and heart pounding suspense that legacy game play offers, that gives you that Adrenalin rush that keeps you coming back for more, you know when your walking along and suddenly you hear the boom boom boom of an apex pred, and all senses go sky high. This don't happen in evrima, i was so excited for the Deino then quickly let down with it's grunt like calls, less than foot noise and overall weak for a 500 bit force, and a very boxy adult swimming animation. It also lacks community, which many legacy players found to bring them back. The only people you can talk to in game is somebody that ventures close to you. Boooooo! So far they should have just invested in an upgrade of Legacy. Gonna have to up their game to be competitive with other dino games out on the horizon. In the mean time ill go back to a disintegrating legacy game ( no lack of players mind you). Shout out to Legacy that has captivated me and thumbs down to Evrima!

Just wait until everything is in (ofc that takes time) I'm sure it'll get a lot better as time goes on.

[carmine path]

I keep seeing L2P in feedback reactions tf does that mean?

[barren zephyr]

"Learn to Play"

[carmine path]

what a bunch of shitters

[worn pumice]

Sounds like the isle to me

[carmine path]

tbh same thing is happening to me, the isle ain't all that captivating rn

[rocky iris]

and that's okay!

[spiral ravine]

@swift palm then there's no in game mechanics that prevents crocs from mega packing

i agree realistically they wouldn't, but game balance wise this is needed

[warm flame]

nothing stops them, but there's a warning, when you use scent there's an orange cloud above mixpacks and megapacks, this makes the megapacks a lot less effective for the people who recognize scent meanings

[spiral ravine]

yup

[swift palm]

and i agree with not "mega packing" and you should smell them if the are above water and on land but if 2 full adults and a baby are underwater how does it make sense that you would smell them

[spiral ravine]

it doesn't

but at least they bare some consequence of going over the group limit

[warm flame]

not like they'd make your dinosaur die and have several hours wasted just because you were in a fight too long, like a certain other dinosaur game

[swift palm]

so maybe something where starting where you have at least 3 subs you start to get the cloud

[spiral ravine]

lmao are we talking about path of trash

[spiral ravine]

i mean you can put it in the suggestion channel, that'd be fine with me

[warm flame]

nah, BoB, the comfort system is horrible on it, anyways back to the good dinosaur game

I think they should make grouping change as you get older, where when you get to a certain age you have to chase someone away or the cloud of embarrassment starts to form

[swift palm]

i don't want it taken out but something to make it where i can help babu's grow would be nice

[spiral ravine]

true

2 adults 1 baby should be allowed

[warm flame]

juveniles and below shouldn't cause clouds but not be able to join with adults in a full pack

[swift palm]

true

[spiral ravine]

this 75 minutes utah growth time is ridiculous lol

[urban flax]

Deinosuchus emitting scent clouds when underwater does make sense
If you can smell water, then you can smell croc-filled water

[warm flame]

legacy utah took 110 minutes to grow lmao

[warm flame]

that simple explanation made so much more sense than the one I said

[spiral ravine]

lol right? and evrima utah is way more capable

[warm flame]

legacy carno also took 110 minutes to grow, as did maia and dilo, legacy balancing

[spiral ravine]

legacy: let's give subrex 450 bite force, better than all the mid tiers, oh let's also make it really fast and has really good turn speed, also decent bleed

[warm flame]

sub rex is better than adult, juvi cera is better than adult

that makes a lot of sense

[spiral ravine]

yeah lol, juvi cera dino baby fight club ring champion

[warm flame]

the thing can face tank 5 utahs, I've done it, stronger than adult cera and cuter

[spiral ravine]

lmao

[swift palm]

in the swamp/standing yes, in rivers/running water i personally don't agree

[rugged fulcrum]

@hasty dagger why do u say no to iguanodon?

its a severely under-rated critter

[hasty dagger]

Cause

I’d rather something more unique

In an already bloated roster

[rugged fulcrum]

i mean it kinda is, the only game so far to have iguanodon that ik of is POT(not including ark)

[urban flax]

Depends on how fast the water goes
Evrima rivers aren't really rapids, especially judging by their color

[rugged fulcrum]

what would u prefer then chip? i mean dinosaur games in reality only go for popular dinos for their game

[hasty dagger]

What would Iguanodon be doing that another hadrosaur already coming can’t?

[rugged fulcrum]

more bleed compared to say a tento

[hasty dagger]

We already have several bleeder herbis

[rugged fulcrum]

i mean its thumbs are literally prison shanks lol

[urban flax]

More bleed isn't really a mechanic

[swift palm]

true but then the water down river would smell like it too not just in one spot

[rugged fulcrum]

naw but i mean tbh @urban flax whats the para good for then?

other than another dino to play as

[urban flax]

Well you're right
This is a balance question now

[rugged fulcrum]

anything n everything that isnt a utah and weaker can kill it lol

[urban flax]

Legacy

[rugged fulcrum]

but I mean in general, iguanodon would be in the same position as para then is how u and chip are basically putting it

i mean if thats the real case then there may as well only be stego and deino in the game lol, one good bleeder for herbi and one good health/damage dealer for carni

[swift palm]

like i've said i dont want it taken out just tweaked a bit so deino can still be able to ambush effectively but if there are too many of a certain size in one area other dino's have some type of warning

[rugged fulcrum]

but im saying add more variety of dinos than the basic ones that are already in legacy, no, yes I agree, more uncommon critters but at the same time iguanodon is highly under-rated

[urban flax]

Yes but para is already a part of the 60 playables roster, Iggy isn't

[rugged fulcrum]

ik

where do u see that btw

[urban flax]

It's brought up all the time
Someone also posted a list of every confirmed and soft-confirmed playable in the roster

[rugged fulcrum]

i mean like is there a channel for it er?

or how do i find it myself

[urban flax]

I'm not sure about those growth-bound groups. Unless someone explains it very well, I'm still finding it a little janky and unintuitive.

[urban flax]

It's in general feedback, I think you have no choice but to scroll up
Maybe search "list of every confirmed playable" or "list of every confirmed dino"

[hasty dagger]

Up To Date List of all Confirmed and Soft Confirmed Species of the Isle (Basically all that was updated is possible community dinosaurs.)

-Acrocanthosaurus atokensis
-Albertosaurus sarcophagus
-Allosaurus fragilis
-Ankylosaurus magniventris
-Austroraptor cabazai
-Avaceratops lammersi

-Baryonyx walkeri
-Beipiaosaurus inexpectus
-Brachiosaurus altithorax
-Brontosaurus ajax

-Camarasaurus supremus
-Carnotaurus sastrei
-Ceratosaurus nasicornis
-Compsognathus longipes

-Deinosuchus rugosus (possibly riograndensis)
-Diabloceratops eatoni
-Dilophosaurus wetherilli
-Dryosaurus altus

-Gallimimus bullatus
-Giganotosaurus carolinii

-Herrerasaurus ischigualastensis
-Homalocephale calathoceros
-Hypsilophodon foxii

-Kentrosaurus aethiopicus

-Magyarosaurus dacus
-Maiasaura peeblesorum
-Megalania (Varanus priscus)
-Minmi paravertebra
-Monolophosaurus jiangi

-Orodromeus makelai
-Oviraptor philoceratops

-Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis
-Pachyrhinosaurus canadensis
-Parasaurolophus tubicen
-Plateosaurus engelhardti
-Protoceratops andrewsi
-Psittacosaurus mongoliensis
-Pteranodon longiceps

-Quetzalcoatlus northropi

-Rugops primus

-Shantungosaurus giganteus
-Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
-Stegosaurus stenops
-Styracosaurus albertensis
-Suchomimus tenerensis

-Tenontosaurus tilleti
-Therizinosaurus cheloniformis
-Titanoboa cerrejonens
-Triceratops horridus
-Troodon inaequalis
-Tyrannosaurus rex

-Utahraptor ostrommaysorum

-Velociraptor mongoliensis

An Unknown Community Dino and an Unknown Small Flyer are also confirmed. (I think they small flyer will be Tupandactylus.)
(If I missed anything or made any errors please contact me in #general-feedback-discussion .)
This list was made to assist players/fans and display all species found within the Isle.

Potential Community Dinosaurs include but are not limited to
-Deinocheirus mirificus
-Pelagornis sandersi
-Prestosuchus chiniquensis

The Following 3 are speculations
-Diplodocus ???
-Mosasaurus ???
-Rauisuchus tiradentes

Credit to @/Cerato444#0294

[rugged fulcrum]

ty

@tawdry holly ^^ think to ur suggestion, diploticus is in it

[urban flax]

Although the list isn't perfect, there's some of them I'm pretty sure were never confirmed

Like diplodocus (and not diploticus) and prestosuchus

Wait prestosuchus is in the not confirmed section nvm

[hasty dagger]

Those are just some of the popular picks for the cd

[dense vale]

i think the list isnt perfect because they are not pictures

[urban flax]

You're limited to 8mB per message in discord

[rugged fulcrum]

im hyped for the following: megalania, minmi, rugops, titanoboa

prestosuchus and raichusuchus if they are ever confirmed too

[icy lion]

titanoboa is still a "maybe"

it might just be too hard to add

[rugged fulcrum]

its in the confirmed/soft confirmed list tho

[icy lion]

thats not an official list

[rugged fulcrum]

oh

yea otherwise tho I agree, might be a while till it is rly added

i think it would be to hard to develop

[icy lion]

another thing i see thats a bit off, we're getting bronto or diplodocus, not both

[rugged fulcrum]

arks was only easy due to the fact ur not playing as em

[icy lion]

we were told it was "a diplodocid" but were not exactly sure what it is

[rugged fulcrum]

id probably go for diplo over bronto tbh

faster n more damage than health

[tawdry holly]

omg yiiis! happy little melon man

it also gives way to bigger carni apex

[icy lion]

i think styraco is also a "maybe"

[rugged fulcrum]

id like to see more amphibious critters

[icy lion]

bronto and diplo are almost the same tbh

in terms of in game function

[barren zephyr]

I'd love to see Diplo in the game

Love his wacky tail

[rugged fulcrum]

esp this dude, i mean im sure he would be wimpy n all but id love to be a salamander lol

i mean, arks dinos are sub species of the real thing according to the dossiers but still id assume diplo would have less hp more speed and damage

[icy lion]

ark is incorrect in almost every way in terms of dinos

[rugged fulcrum]

sorry if im not supposed to post pics

[icy lion]

youre allowed to, no worries

[rugged fulcrum]

i mean as said in the rex dossier, the dinos in ark are sub-species not the actual thing

[icy lion]

irl bronto and diplo are extremely similar, theyre closely related

[rugged fulcrum]

Arguably the deadliest creature on the Island, Tyrannosaurus dominum is a killing machine. Active mostly when hunting for food or defending its nest, a good plan is to avoid every Tyrannosaurus.

It is pure power -- from its stomp to its tail. It is not able to intimidate every foe with its roar, but upon hearing it, it might scare the poop out of you - quite literally.

Despite being a different sub-species of Tyrannosaurus, everyone I've met still refers to them as a "Rex" or a "T-Rex". I've long since stopped trying to convince anyone, especially the few who I've encountered wearing Tyrannosaurus teeth as necklaces.

Domesticated
Taming a Tyrannosaurus is without a doubt the goal for any warlord or warring tribe. Tyrannosaurus is a fierce battle companion. There is a reason Tyrannosaurus is considered the king of dinosaurs (or in this genus, the "lord"). Any tribe that manages to tame one has almost nothing to fear.

"Despite being a different sub-species of Tyrannosaurus, everyone I've met still refers to them as a "Rex" or a "T-Rex". I've long since stopped trying to convince anyone, especially the few who I've encountered wearing Tyrannosaurus teeth as necklaces."

anyways tho off topic

i would deffo love to see more amphibious critters than anything in the isle tho

or semi-aquatic as well

[urban flax]

Koolasuchus is cursed, but more semiaquatics would be nice
There's quite a few planned

[rugged fulcrum]

such as? i love my semi-aqautics and amphibious lol

and hows koolasuchus cursed lol

and the pic i sent is diplocaulus

this is koolasuchus

[icy lion]

austro, bary, deino, minmi, spino, sucho, beipi are semiaquatics

[dense vale]

alien salamander

[rugged fulcrum]

beipi? that ugly thing? thats a semi-aquatic??

[icy lion]

yea

[rugged fulcrum]

the thing might scare deinos outta water sheesh

[rugged fulcrum]

u think koolasuchus is cursed look at this ugly thing

thats the beipi

[icy lion]

not what our beipi looks like

ours is blue

[urban flax]

You can make a dino look however you want...

[rugged fulcrum]

uglyyyyy

lmao

[icy lion]

heres the beipi concept, shows it swimming around https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/8/87/Biepi_dossier.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20200318152749

[rugged fulcrum]

theri technically looked like that too tho

[urban flax]

And its juvie model

[rugged fulcrum]

ok good, lets hope thats how it looks as adult lol

keep the feathers lmao

[urban flax]

Yes it keeps its feathers

[rugged fulcrum]

kinda hyped for oviraptor lol, gonna be interesting on its diet seeing as its main source is eggs

[icy lion]

ill grab a pic of adult beipi

[rugged fulcrum]

oki<33

[icy lion]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/6/67/The_isle_new_beipiaosaurus_new_2020.jpeg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20200825030842

[rugged fulcrum]

could be a horror game with that lmao id kinda fear it lol

legit looks like freddy kruegers pet, cool but terrifying

[urban flax]

That's what theiriznosaurids are

[rugged fulcrum]

naw i feel theri would be freddys living motorcycle lol

or edward scissorhands pet

[worn pumice]

if only it wasnt the size of a dog

[rugged fulcrum]

thats a big dog lol

[worn pumice]

tru

i actually surprised myself i was gonna say its the size of my foot lol

[rugged fulcrum]

psitta is more ur avg sized dog

naw thats compy lmao

[worn pumice]

its actually a decent size now that im lookin at it lol

[urban flax]

@haughty cliff Even if cannibalism debuffs get added, it's very unlikely that deino itself will get any debuffs from cannibalizing.

[haughty cliff]

There needs to be something to make killing every juvi of your species that you see not the best way to survive

[urban flax]

Diets I guess

[haughty cliff]

killing, not eating

[urban flax]

But there is no real way to prevent that kind of behavior without hindering normal gameplay

[haughty cliff]

like i said i'm fine with some measure of it but as many have said it really is out of hand, and makes growth impossible. With other dinos you can stay safe by hiding elsewhere, but deino being restricted to specific, narrow channels and pools makes it much, much less possible

[urban flax]

Adding more waterways and more hiding spots underwater would already fix part of it

But going the "debuff for attacking your own species" isn't the way to go

[haughty cliff]

I'd prefer an even stronger deterrant tbh. I'm running into clan groups lately of 20+ deinos that just go up and down the rivers, sometimes with stegos on the shore, killing every baby

[urban flax]

Groups of 20+ deinos are spottable ith a huge scent cloud right ?

And I think it may be better once there are predators for deinos and stegos, like spino and rex

[haughty cliff]

if you happen to be scenting, but when there's stegos coming down the shore, you can't escape

[urban flax]

For now the diversity is still very low
Pople who want to play aquatic play deino, people who want to play ambush hunter play deino, people who want to play apex play deino

People who want to play big herbi play stego, people who want to play aggro herbi play stego, people who want to play tank play stego

[haughty cliff]

Yeah I disagree wholly. I feel there def. needs to be a deterrant in place to a predator that's limited to a narrow biome. That's my opinion on it.

[urban flax]

But as I said, there's a very high chance that it would hinder normal gameplay as well

And as much as I'd hate to be cannibalized too (never played Deino so I can only guess) I'm afraid that it's part of the intended experience

[hoary dawn]

almost like its a survival game or something

[barren zephyr]

Any help please? I download the isle Again and wanted to try Evrima but i cant play it bcs i cant rest with my Dino in game. I know its H but its not working and not even other buttom i dont even have it in options the "rest"..its kinda bad bcs when somethin bites me i cant heal bleed or refresh stam

[sour crescent]

This is what worked for me @dark tundra
Controls missing/not working
Open File Explorer from the taskbar.
Select View > Options > Change folder and search options.
Select the View tab and, in Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives and OK.
Afterwards, at the bottom left of your taskbar there should be a white search bar. Type %APPDATA% in there and open your %APPDATA% folder.
At the top you'll see the filepath, click "Appdata" to go back to the actual Appdata folder, then to local > TheIsle > delete the "Saved" folder.

[brave nova]

It's not like the stego can chase anything, if you don't want to fight a stego just move in the general direction away from it and there's nothing it can do about it

[glad dirge]

Plus stego can still be killed

Coordinates utah packs can take down stegos pretty fairly

[brave nova]

yeah, even with the nerf a small pack of utahs can take down one or two stegos pretty consistently

[glad dirge]

On the other hand, Utah v carno is quite difficult

It's crucial to land pounces because you can't kill a carno just from bites

However, if you miss you die lol

[tired wagon]

I mean Stego is still the apex and it shouldn't be

[lucid mauve]

Ofcourse he is now, but not when new dinos comes. Everything will change alot

its like taking rex/spino/giga out from legacy, you would see sucho all over the place.

[tired wagon]

Right, I was just saying my thought on which ones should come earlier than others

Dondi himself said that Allo probably wouldn't happen for a while because they'd rule the ecosystem with an iron fist until the real apexes are added

And Alberto was actually considered to be added instead of Carno when he was making the original roadmap way back when.

I could see arguments being made for and against Acro. It's practically an apex, and it would cause the same issue as Stego is right now.

[lucid mauve]

Stego is no issue, utahs kills stego way to easy

And stegos cant hunt, they cant go around killing stuff. Unless you dont pay attention

[brave nova]

exactly this. Seems like people go up to a stego, get smacked, then complain it's op. when they could just have gone the other way and stego would have no way to catch them. It's purely defensive

[tired wagon]

I mean I've never seen Utahs kill a Stego, but I believe it. But still, that's just Utahs. The problem is mostly Deinos.

Stegos keep their tails in the water, and when a Deino tries to escape they die.

I've seen it way too much.

[brave nova]

All the deino has to do is keep their distance though

[tired wagon]

But they can't always do that

[brave nova]

Can't blame the game for that

[tired wagon]

Stegos are faster than Deino on land, and the Deino has to come out of the water at some point.

So it's screwed

[brave nova]

it can swim away, it swims way faster and for longer than stego runs

[tired wagon]

Not always, they camp the spawn points

[brave nova]

die and spawn somewhere else then

if it's actually fully blocked, but I've never seen that

[tired wagon]

I have

[brave nova]

might as well geronimo it and if you don't get out spawn elsewhere

[tired wagon]

But also, adults tend to be at the spawn points a lot.

[brave nova]

I assume this can only possibly be a problem at the south spawn?

[tired wagon]

Mostly south, but also in some of the rivers.

[urban flax]

There's also some rivers where deinos can't swim away

[brave nova]

there is no way stegos block the center and south east deino spawns

[tired wagon]

But listen, I haven't been dumb enough yet to fight a Stego, especially as a Deino. But I do play Ptera often and I watch these things go on.

And it's a problem.

[brave nova]

then you're just caught out of position

[tired wagon]

But to me and many other players, toxic Stego players are a problem.

[urban flax]

Out of position when in the middle of a river ?

[tired wagon]

So I thought of a few things that might remedy that problem.

[round juniper]

I went to the server on which I was growing stego, and I was asked to start over. I thought that the server was wrong and checked all the official servers (I played on the official one), but on all the others I was asked to start over. is this normal ?

[urban flax]

When you last played stego, was it during the stress test ?

[brave nova]

If you're surrounded by stego and can't swim away I'd say so

[tired wagon]

I've never seen that.

[tired wagon]

I'm guessing that you tend to play Stego?

[brave nova]

hell no

I can't stand the move speed, or rather lack thereof

[tired wagon]

Haha same

[round juniper]

@tired wagon I had this on stress test servers.

[tired wagon]

🤷

[brave nova]

I think the stego's abysmal speed makes it well balanced though

[tired wagon]

But the apex predator can't do jack shit against it and that's ok?

[brave nova]

you mean the deino? cause the other two predators (ptera hardly even counts as predator) can

[urban flax]

Stop believing deino is an apex predator

It was never meant to be one

[tired wagon]

Back in update 2, I will admit I would attack Stegos as Carno.

But I would never go for the adults.

[tired wagon]

Apex as in the top predator at the moment. The second something else is added Deino is booted from that mantle.

[brave nova]

lol

[tired wagon]

Hell, even Sucho might stand a better chance against Stego than Deino.

[barren zephyr]

I really need help , when I turn my mouse right or left the camera isn’t following, I can just look up and down . Pls can I get help ?

[tired wagon]

You sure your mouse just ain't busted?

[brave nova]

How are people salty that there is a single dino they can't oneshot? Really, it's baffling

[tired wagon]

Wdym?

[barren zephyr]

My mouse ain’t busted

[brave nova]

the only thing the deino can't instakill is a big stego, and apparently a lot of deino players don't think that's good enough

[barren zephyr]

I’m sure

[tired wagon]

I don't think it's about not being able to 1 shot, it's about getting absolutely abolished. So earlier I mentioned that I see a lot as Ptera. A Deino will make the mistake of attacking a Stego, or just make the mistake of e x i s t i n g, and they bite the Stego doing minimal damage so they realize that they have to escape. By the time they've turned around they have already been smacked like 3 times, and once they get to the water they got hit more and more and they die.

It's a loop

I've seen Stegos run into rivers just to kill a vibing Deino.

[high idol]

I think all deino has to do is swim away from the stego though, if they're in shallow waters it's their own fault

[clever urchin]

@candid fiber I agree, hasnt happened to me yet but I've sometimes had to go knees deep in water to be able to drink

[candid fiber]

Yeah it is annoying and feels bad from a control standpoint. If they wanted to help deinos getting close before you finish drinking they should just make you drink slower instead.

[clever urchin]

I'm currently loving the movement of Evrima

Though I'd make some slight changes to it

Like flies flying around mud

So you know where you can wallow and where you cant

Maybe slower drink or better deino vision in water while looking out the water

[brave nova]

@candid fiber a lot of the river banks are bugged making you go further out to drink than intended, they're already on it 👍

@south kraken depleting hunger is the wrong way to go imo. should rather reduce food output across the board

make them kill more to eat, but let a full stomach last as long as it does

[south kraken]

Yeah, making fish more scarce would make people actually have to go and find food

[glad dirge]

Good luck with that as a deino,

More cannibalism

[south kraken]

Or more people hunting other species like they should

[brave nova]

hunger has little effect on the amount of deino infighting anyway

[south kraken]

With pteradon I eat 2 fish to get a full stomach and that lasts half an hour, I want to have to fish a little more often than that

[glad dirge]

I can see ptera getting a food drain faster

You can live to adult without having to really eat

But really it's not...necessary like what are they gonna do they are ptera

Deino life ot already pretty hard, and they are already preying on everything

If anything its only gonna make death by starvation increase

[safe galleon]

@barren zephyr what

[hybrid matrix]

@gritty siren how can u not understand the compass?

up arrow is north

down arrow is south

[gritty siren]

your an idiot, theres 2 points up and 2 points down

[compact hare]

learn the map, like Derptah said, the compass works pretty well

[hybrid matrix]

tf u talkin about

[compact hare]

and ? you dont know how to read a compass ?

[brittle ivy]

Do not throw insults. Sole warning.

[gritty siren]

seriously how hard is it to ad N,S,E,W

[hybrid matrix]

how hard is it to know that north is up and south is down

[gritty siren]

this game is a joke

[silver zephyr]

it's not hard but it's also not hard to understand the current system either

[wary sparrow]

Seriously how hard is it to read the compass

[compact hare]

there is only 1 pointing up and other pointing down

[silver zephyr]

[hybrid matrix]

jokes have meaning
thats why ur the least funny person ive ever met

[brittle ivy]

Move on, stop dog piling

[compact hare]

there are the only 2 arrows in Evrima's compass
Up means North
Down means South

if you look at your right while pointing your dino to North you will be looking to East. I you look left, its West

the inverse if you are pointing South

[azure wadi]

Doesn’t an ordinary compass only point north as well

[compact hare]

yes

and devs made our compass even easier to understand

[hybrid matrix]

they really realy did

[azure wadi]

I’ve never had trouble with our compass in the past

[clever urchin]

Well, some people, myself included like the Legacy compass, I know north and south and I wouldnt mind if they added letters to understand it better, but dinos didnt have compass

Okay lets not be toxic now

[compact hare]

dont insult

[brittle ivy]

Someone earned the mute role

[azure wadi]

Birds have a magnetic compass in their bodies, our compass is just a visual representation of that

[clever urchin]

Ahhhh I see

[azure wadi]

Also I’m pretty sure the evrima compass and the legacy compass are the same

[compact hare]

thats how they migrate

its very cool

[azure wadi]

Birds in general are just cool

[brittle ivy]

They are the same, yes

[clever urchin]

Like Sky mentioned it is, just lack of letters saying the direction where you're facing

[azure wadi]

Ah I see, but that isn’t really needed

[clever urchin]

Navigating would be easier, but atm I'm just using landmarks to navigate as it is

[azure wadi]

I barely ever use the compass

[wary sparrow]

If you played legacy before coming to evrima there really shouldn’t be any problems with understanding the compass but I can see why completely new players might be confused

[compact hare]

Spire rock was a giant North if you consider landmarks

[azure wadi]

Yeah but it doesn’t take too much time to get used to it

[clever urchin]

Tower is South West

[wary sparrow]

I use it all the time

[clever urchin]

I like the compass so I use it often

Again, only using landmarks when I want to meet up with someone

[azure wadi]

Just use the sun

[clever urchin]

Otherwise "Lets head south/east/west/north"

[wary sparrow]

No once you understand that the arrow pointing up is north and you have a basic understanding of how a compass works than there shouldn’t be any problems

[clever urchin]

LMAO

[azure wadi]

[clever urchin]

Poor Utah

I wanna post a suggestion about skins but it's a bit too early for that... Cough update 9 cough

[azure wadi]

[compact hare]

Compass is for ppl who know the map REALLY WELL and know where x location is
otherwise you have ppl who know specific paths and their own paths to get to other places ( like me) like "to get to arch's shallow river I need to find north's fork"

I dont use compass so much, but there are some ppl using it all the time

[clever urchin]

Yes

[compact hare]

two interesting ways to self navigation

[azure wadi]

Someone has been typing in feedback for like 5 min

[clever urchin]

Who?

[swift dew]

our compass is easy to understand... as long as you actually know its a compass. the one problem with our compass is that new players might not even realize its a compass

[clever urchin]

..... @manic ibex I don't think shallows should be removed, it just wouldnt feel natural

There are plenty of spots for a Deino to ambush

Central river being one of them

[manic ibex]

I agree, there is a lot of spots for deino to ambush. but no preys will come to these spots soon enough

[azure wadi]

Shallow semi aquatic hunters will most likely chase prey from the shallow zones

Like suchomimus and bary

[manic ibex]

these 2 species are not going to be added in some time tho.

[clever urchin]

Maybe they will

We dont know the devs plans

[hybrid matrix]

david

i want u to realize something

[clever urchin]

We know what are they planning right now, but they might sneak a dino in

[compact hare]

not as shallow as the shallow parts we have right now (I believe so) but deep enough to a fish ai to swim
or an unlucky beipi @azure wadi

[swift dew]

idk about that, sucho was on the original roadmap and bary wouldn't be a bad addition this early. (roadmap is changing btw)

[compact hare]

Oh sorry David wrong ping

[hybrid matrix]

wut u want is to change the map to benefit a single species out of a roster of 8 playables

[crude girder]

I mean ideally Carnos and Utahs would chase herbivores away from the shallows

[clever urchin]

As a Utah player I would do that

[hybrid matrix]

@manic ibex

[urban flax]

When terrestrial apexes are added shallows will be less safe

[azure wadi]

I’ll join you

[urban flax]

Everyone will want to drink there, not knowing that there's a rex crouching in the bushes nearby

[swift dew]

they are already less safe, we have spear fishers

[compact hare]

current shallow rivers are like utahs paradise I always see 2 packs there lmao

[clever urchin]

Coughing Ptera noise

[manic ibex]

I'm not convinced because of how long it will takes for all these species to be implemented. I really hope I'm wrong tho

[worn pumice]

The issue with this is that not all the herbis would run like a stego is probably not going to care and just stay there

[swift dew]

@gusty mulch you will most likely be able to change the color of your markings when the skin update comes

[gusty mulch]

True

Facts

unless..?

[swift dew]

@thorny lynx in the future deinos are getting a leap so they can catch pteras or any other fliers that fly too close to the water

[odd sedge]

To make skimming even more difficult than it already is lmao

[worn pumice]

Well I mean

Atleast there’s an actual threat to ptera s

Otherwise technically they can just catch fish fly high and land on cliffs

[odd sedge]

I hate how they made Pteras having to fly even deeper to even skim.
You really have to smooch with the water surface. To be fair, you can bite and get the same job done

But I thought it was fine in the Stress test

[clever urchin]

I am one of those lmao, it's not as easy as some may think but it's really fun!

[paper oriole]

Wading dropping weight to 75%, swimming dropping it to 50%

[crisp laurel]

Am I the only one that feels like Deino needs a good buff?, I was a juvi Utah today I got bitten from what I could tell 70% Deino and lived to tell the tale. I mean these are supposed to be bone crushing killers. On legacy I would be dead from a Herrera bite.

[candid fiber]

Legacy has crazy weight effects though.

[crisp laurel]

True but a juvi Utah surviving that kinda unrealistic to me

[candid fiber]

Also Deino is not supposed to be a bone crushing killer but a crocodile - as in "bite, hold, drown".

[sour fossil]

probably hit your tail tip which really doesnt do much

[crisp laurel]

Oh no crocs do crush bone just yt it. But that's not really the point here

[brittle ivy]

bLLLL is pointing out that there's locational damage. It likely bit your tail tip which does negligible damage.

[candid fiber]

How do stats scale with size now? If it's still kind of weight based a 70% Deino wouldn't have a very good bite. If i was strictly linear they would hit about as hard as a Carno.

[glad dirge]

You could make the same argument about anything getting headshotted from a deino, once fractures come deino will be better, no need to increase its raw dmg

[crisp laurel]

Maybe, I'll test it out later with some friends

Just some thoughts here. Will test it later. Still love the Deino game play though👍

[dense vale]

but stegos want to stand in the water so im not sure having a fractured leg prevents them from doing what they want

[crisp laurel]

Ye I'm not going near a stego even with a fractured bone. Stego op against Deino

[dense vale]

deino needs to hurt its own weight class enough to command atleast a bit of respect. that dont mean hunt big things easily but hurt them enough that they dont want to stand in water

otherwise theres kind of a sharp cut off point where things deino cant grab have way less fear cause lmb wont hurt them enough

and rmb dont hurt them either

[cedar pulsar]

@hot musk why with the reacts on mrgharial’s stuff lol

[hybrid matrix]

yeah thats pretty rude

[vast wolf]

@hot musk

you playing with fire boi.

[cedar pulsar]

oh he wrote earlier “every deino is just doing kos”

so listening to him is about as good of time spent as watching paint dry

[vast wolf]

i put and? on his because its useless.

[hybrid matrix]

it isnt even feedback

[vast wolf]

damn, i couldent put the tenonto cry emote on his because everyone rushed it lol.

dumbass putting up a racial slur lol

[hybrid matrix]

holup

[vale pawn]

bruuuh

[icy lion]

tag a mod if that happens

[vast wolf]

👌

[hybrid matrix]

wait can mods remove other ppl's reactions?

[cedar pulsar]

quite the sad sack

[icy lion]

yes

[vale pawn]

yea

[hybrid matrix]

woah

i didnt kno that

[vast wolf]

mods be like

https://tenor.com/view/starcraft-deal-with-it-gif-6115889

[hybrid matrix]

i mean
cannibalism can get annoying but usually its bc babies cant outrun adults

[silver zephyr]

@somber wraith not entirely wrong but a bit over the top

[hybrid matrix]

also cannibalism is gonna be punished for dinos other than cera when diets are added

[vestal rune]

only punishment for cannibalism should just be that it doesn't give you any positive diet effects

like it won't make you grow faster or anything, it's just purely filling your stomach

[hybrid matrix]

(i have conflicting info on this) isnt albinism confirmed for cannibals?

[vestal rune]

devs suggested it in the past but iirc it's always been a sort of "we may do this" thing rather than a "we will do this"

[icy lion]

its been discussed but not confirmed

[hybrid matrix]

ok

just wanted to make sure

[silver zephyr]

oh god that albinism idea 🤢

[hybrid matrix]

i feel like cannibalism should be a last resort tho

[vestal rune]

ye that's why I think it shoguld give no positive diet effects

you're hungry and there's your species but also your prefered food source? don't be a dumbie and eat your preferred food. But if there's only your own species then you gotta survive with what you have

[hybrid matrix]

i think that (like with real cannibal humans) if u cannibalize too often ur diet should change to include just ur species

and anything else makes u puke

well

the puke part isnt realistic

[vestal rune]

ehh idk about that

would suck if you're forced to cannibalise

[hybrid matrix]

ur only forced to if u cannibalize too often

not if its once in a blue moon

if ur constantly killing and eating ur own kind (unless ur a cannibal dino like cera) u should develop a taste for ur species

[molten tulip]

Maybe a perk that unlocks if you cannibalize often, then if you choose to perk into it at your own choice then you adopt that playstyle and get certain buffs/debuffs (skin turns albino, you get lots of food from your own species, but now you cant eat any other food)

[hybrid matrix]

hmmm
interesting

[vestal rune]

honestly I think it should just be that cannibalism doesn't give any benefit diet-wise unless you're like a cerato

[hybrid matrix]

but then the ppl who wanna be albinos will go around killing other members of their species just for the perk

[molten tulip]

True

[vestal rune]

it's the simplest solution, maybe there could be a perk that allows you to gain benefit from eating your own kind, but none of that albinism stuff, at most maybe red eyes but that's pushing it

[hybrid matrix]

i dont like the idea of albinism

ppl r gonna wanna be albinos

honestly visual changes just seem like a bad idea in general

[molten tulip]

If a cannibalism perk gets added there should be some sort of visual indicator because then people with the perk could just join groups then backstab everyone

[vestal rune]

yes, I want that to be the case

solos should have SOME chance against big groups

[molten tulip]

Also the 2 call someone then eat them

[vestal rune]

your fault for trusting them

[molten tulip]

Feel it would make finding someone to play with much harder if its a perk which rewards it

But normally yeah its your fault

[hybrid matrix]

@sullen flame use the emergency takeoff then

[sullen flame]

I do 🙂 I only use that one anyway because it doesnt drain my stamina as much.

[hybrid matrix]

ok

[sullen flame]

The running fly drains almost all of it

[hybrid matrix]

yeha

thats y u dont use the running takeoff

[sullen flame]

The running takeoff can have the stamina adjusted because I really love how it looks and feels.

I want to use it more often

[kind parrot]

The running take off feels more like 'I have a threat chasing me need to get off the ground NOW' sort of feel, so it kind of makes sense that it uses more stam.

[hybrid matrix]

actually its supposed to be the other way around

the emergency takeoff is wut ur supposed to do if ur under attack

[kind parrot]

From my experience the emergency take off from a stand still puts you in more harms way, as you have to be well, standing still, and it takes a while to lift off. Where as if there moving and running its far harder for me to catch them.

[hybrid matrix]

actually it takes half a second to takeoff using the emergency takeoff

it takes much longer with the running takeoff

[kind parrot]

Yes I know, but the running take off you are still MOVING, thus trying to get out of harms away. I have caught so many petras as a carno, utah, and even deino that try and take off from a stand still, vs when they try and bolt and take off.

[hybrid matrix]

then those r some bad pteras

bc its very easy to avoid getting killed as a ptera

[kind parrot]

even as a petra, I find it easier to get away from threats by the running take off vs stand still.

[hybrid matrix]

how

just

how

the emergency takeoff is literally meant to be for emergencies

thats y its called the emergency takeoff

[kind parrot]

because your able to zig zag as you run and void bites. vs standing still being an easy target as you lift off

I've zipped between a carnos legs running take off and in the air before they could turn around

[hybrid matrix]

thats y u get in the air as soon as u can

as in

b4 u get attacked

u should only get enough stam to take off as a ptera if u have to sit on the ground

otherwise ur choosing to die

get enough stam to take off and then find a safe spot to rest

[kind parrot]

ambush attack while drinking water. carno came from behind, mate with me who did the sand still take off was nommed up by one while I ran, the 2nd carno couldn't grab me and I was in the air before he could turn around

the short time staying still is enough for prtetty much anything to grab you as you take off. Vs the running take off that well, trying to attack a small moving target is a bit harder, and when you can zip and double back its pretty amusing

[ruby fern]

@sullen flame for the running takeoff, you have to release space after first full flap. Then you are in the air with nearly full stam. it needs some practice

[left nacelle]

Yeah the running takeoff barely drains any stam. You need let go of space as soon as your ptera starts flapping its wings, if you keep going without taking off, you'll lose all your stam

[worn pumice]

ye ur not supposed to just flap around lol

[robust vine]

@wide night i agree with most of what you're saying and it can be incredibly frustrating to fully grow something like a dieno and stego and loose it to a group who are just killing for sport. usually there are servers that have rules that help prevent constant kosing but im not sure how effective they are on evrima.

[vivid tulip]

BBody down rule is a most in my head, even if server has no rules, i respect other ppl >->

[left nacelle]

Why do people put a ✅ on their own suggestions? Kinda weird imo

[vestal rune]

if you're gonna put a tick then put a cross too

[worn pumice]

i get if u do something like x and check

but ppl who just like their own suggestions is

[left nacelle]

Yeah. That's what Foxy did on their suggestion

But they fixed it

[robust vine]

no need to shame them for it

[left nacelle]

Also, I'm drawing a blank. What are body down rules again?

[vivid tulip]

Yeah, i did click on it >->

bbbut i wasnt the one who put it on it tho

[storm vigil]

I put a check on my own suggestions because I agree with them. 😆 of course

[vivid tulip]

overall so far im really happy how evrima is going, havent been on since evrima even started haha

[robust vine]

@left nacelle when theres a body down the fighting stops and the people killed it get to eat from it unless contested. its a common rule on servers to help stop an apex from killing everyone in a group

[vestal rune]

they're not adding global chat back, it doesn't fit the game

[silver zephyr]

time for this convo to loop again

[worn pumice]

ah here we go again

[storm vigil]

What convo? Oh it’s the guy I blocked

[vestal rune]

devs have removed mechanics from the game that they later felt were bad mechanics in the past

[left nacelle]

Oh. Body down rules I don't think are necessary in evrima right now

[storm vigil]

Idk what he said but idc

[vestal rune]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[worn pumice]

mix packing is the only thing i just cant stand

[vivid tulip]

Why is it a bad mechanics to be able to communicate globaly, if ppl will do it anyway through discord?

[robust vine]

its common in servers with realism since a carnivore wouldn't typically kill an entire herd of herbis

[left nacelle]

Encourages toxic behavior. Which it absolutely does. The cons outweigh the pros

[vestal rune]

ye can't wait for ingame mechanics to prevent mixpacking, idk how effective it will be but eh

[silver zephyr]

I get that but tbh there shouldn't be a scenario where the carni is that broken it can kill a whole herd or the herd is that bad that it dies to one carni or a group

[vivid tulip]

Just have mods?

[robust vine]

For some servers, but there's no rule servers

i prefer the no rule ones tbh

[left nacelle]

Same

[storm vigil]

We just want global as an option on private servers, if you don’t like global you won’t have to play on servers that have it ✨ amazing

[left nacelle]

But why can't private servers just use discord?

[vestal rune]

ye global can be added back once mod support is implemented

[worn pumice]

like idc about kosing or anything but mix packing rly needs to stop tho thats actually ridiculous

[storm vigil]

Because not everyone who owns the isle has discord

[left nacelle]

And yeah global will be a tihng when mods are back

[silver zephyr]

[left nacelle]

But... discord is free? They can just get discord

[storm vigil]

That’s not what i said

I said not everyone has it LOL what’s the issue

[robust vine]

@storm vigil i wouldn't bother trying to argue with a lot of the people against global chat, they're not willing to listen to your opinions about it sadly

[storm vigil]

That’s true willow, my block list is getting long

[vestal rune]

we are perfectly willing to listen lmao, that's why we provide counter points

[left nacelle]

All I'm saying is people can use discord until mods are a thing

[worn pumice]

no point in this convo to bring back something the devs themselves dont want to bring back and have removed already

[robust vine]

your counter points are always the same excuses

[vestal rune]

if you think there's debate over this, read this #general-feedback-discussion message

how are they excuses?

I've yet to see a good point against what I say

[vivid tulip]

I personaly agree with both side, but i wish ppl in the game would use the server's discord to actuallyl group up again instead of forever losing them and leaving cuse alone >*> (yeah got no friends yet who would play isle atm, thats why iim more on the globar chat side)

[robust vine]

the "maybe you should fine another game to play" excuse

[vestal rune]

that's very far from my main point

that's just a suggestion lmao

[silver zephyr]

I can get wanting it for unofficials but if the devs actively don't want a system in game it makes sense that such a system won't be kept or implemented, that's kinda the point of mods (granted mods are probably decently far off so I can kinda get the current frustration)

[storm vigil]

Yes. The isle has strong competition up and coming, and it has global. I want the ISLE to be the most successful dino game. Which is why I care. Which is why I’m here. Arguing with people who don’t see the problem.

[robust vine]

im lucky to have met people on legacy that i can group with and talk to on vc when playing evrima

[vestal rune]

global chat won't make the isle more competitive

so many people said that removing family sharing would ruin the isle and cause it to die, guess what? it's still here doing better than ever

[vivid tulip]

i mean

[left nacelle]

Removing global isn't gonna reduce The Isle's popularity either. Especially when mods are a thing again

[vivid tulip]

some server got around it bby implenting "dino switching" through discord stuff

[robust vine]

adding back global chat would show that the devs are listening to what alot of their playerbase have been suggesting

[storm vigil]

One of the largest isle servers had to shut down admin support due to no global. That community will die. Long before mods are out.

[vestal rune]

they do listen, they just find the suggestion not fit for the game

[vestal rune]

this will be fixed with the admin ticket system, which will come much sooner

[silver zephyr]

I get the issue, they should've implemented some way to contact admins with the removal of global

[shrewd harbor]

Problem is with losing global like someone said it makes admins jobs a lot harder

[robust vine]

I disagree, with the amount of players asking for it to be added back proves that its "fit" for the game

[vestal rune]

this is true, but they're adding a solution to this relatively soon

[cyan flame]

I should point out, that most of the servers that uses global, still requires discord because of all the rules and ways to report and all that, is still on said discord. So they can add chats for "ingame global" on discord too for their server. So the whole "Not everyone have discord", while true, I don't think is a good argument in this case, chat or no chat.

[vestal rune]

no, no it doesn't

[shrewd harbor]

Do you know what this is?

[vestal rune]

we don't know the specifics but it will very likely be a ticket system where you can ask for admin help and admins will respond

[left nacelle]

A lot of the community doesn't know the vision for the game. Hell, none of the community knows the game's lore and story

[vestal rune]

I'm gonna repost a story about why just because the community wants it doesn't make it good

[robust vine]

i just think that unoffical servers should be allowed the option, this will help ensure that the servers that have rules are able to help deal with rulebreakers without the need of discord. ofc the official servers should have it disabled since they're run by the devs

[vestal rune]

a long time ago during the legacy days, the devs did a poll asking what the community thinks the devs should focus on next. There were options such as more mechanics, more maps and more dinos. When the poll was first released the results were decent, more mechanics was the top option. However anthomnia made a video about a poll, and almost immediatly "more dinos" went to the top. Adding more dinos would have killed the isle, at the time there were more than enough. This is why the devs don't simply listen to the majority

[robust vine]

please dont

[storm vigil]

LOL

[vestal rune]

read it and don't just say "tl;dr"

[robust vine]

literally nobody cares

[vivid tulip]

Quality over quantity. Thats how Evrima should be

[worn pumice]

again this whole convo is completely pointless as its quite clear their not bringing it back

[vivid tulip]

What would adding 2-3 of the same dino mechanicali with different models and changed number

[vestal rune]

I see, so if something says something going against your opinion you don't care, got it

[storm vigil]

I’ll fight for it before I see my favourite community servers shut down 🤷‍♂️

[robust vine]

I think they should add it back for the time being, untill we're able to add mods to servers.

[cyan flame]

To be fair, game has changed massively from the original vision and concept, and as for lore, I don't think even Dondi is 100% sure on that :p

[worn pumice]

i personally could care less if its here or not I do wish tho for some way for admins to communicate with players which is already coming so

[left nacelle]

True, but the devs still have more of an idea of the lore and stuff than we do, by a long shot

[vestal rune]

just in general, this community is generally really bad at picking what's best for the game, it has a track record for it

[cyan flame]

Well hopefully at least :p

[worn pumice]

To keep it a 100 if a community server is shuting down completely because theres no global then it shows the server isnt very strong

[cyan flame]

You know, the same could be said for the devs at times. :p

[storm vigil]

Admins require global to communicate with players. What part about that is hard to understand?

[vestal rune]

true, but recently they've been doing (mostly) good decisions and I'm proud of them for that

[vivid tulip]

Its one things the that said "its not coming back" but that doesnt mean ppl cannot ask for it , since its a feedback towards devs that there are an X % of players who would love to have it back and X % that disagrees, I think a global chat on/off choice wont be horribly hard to implent.

[left nacelle]

Which is why evrima was a thing, fixing past mistakes

[robust vine]

i still think that the inclusion of a global chat option wont change whatever plans the devs have for the game, with a game like the isle there's no right way to play, not everyone's going to play the game as "the devs intended"

[worn pumice]

thats literally already been addressed above and theres a system coming for that

[cyan flame]

You can handle it without global. It could be done back then, it can be done again. There's no reason to give up like that.

[silver zephyr]

they don't require global, global is 1 way but they can implement admin tickets which they have considered

[vivid tulip]

Admins should get better toolls than global tho* and its the matter of time

[storm vigil]

Then global should be on as an option until the system is in place.

[cyan flame]

Eh, that depends a bit on who you ask I would say. There's plenty of choices that can be argued I would say. Hence roadmap changes a few times over, and so on. I wouldn't say things are entirely solid, at least not just yet.

[barren zephyr]

At this point all I want is some communication for players to admins, admins can't do their job and a lot of communities are fuckin' pissed about it lmao. They should've developed an admin communication thing first, and THEN should've removed global tbh

[left nacelle]

Or... people can just use discord until mods are a thing

[storm vigil]

100% correct thank you

[vestal rune]

their new mechanic and gameplay focused mindset is certainly much better

[barren zephyr]

Of course

I just think it's the most logical thing to do for this case

[worn pumice]

Ur opinion, i personally dont care if its here or not but the devs clearly removed a specific mechanic for a reason i doubt it will come back

[silver zephyr]

yeah I get that, I'm fine with globals removal but they should've implemented a way to contact admins and vice versa

[robust vine]

its like ive said so many times, the unofficial servers rely on communication between all the players to make them successful

[cyan flame]

It is, at least to you and me (but I don't know if we have the best view of this to be fair!). I do know others who still think the roster needs work, and that the whole "smalls first" was a bad decision, and so on. Just saying, there's plenty of views on what's the best for the game, and all that.

[storm vigil]

Unofficials have been running successful communities for years on this game and half the people in this chat haven’t even participated in them to know what we are talking about.

[vestal rune]

as far as I'm concerned, any view that doesn't have the game's GAMEplay at heart is a bad view

people wanting bigger dinos so they can play rex is not a good view

[robust vine]

unofficial servers are the reason why this game is still alive

[barren zephyr]

Eh

Not really?

[vivid tulip]

well

[barren zephyr]

I mean yeah they're a big part of the game but

[storm vigil]

100%. The Isle owes a lot to Nublar, Nycta, LFAW, and many others.

[barren zephyr]

I guess they're not the WHOLE reason, but yeah they're a huge part of it

[oblique fiber]

LFaW is life

[worn pumice]

global doesnt kill unofficial servers, sure i agree admins should be able to communicate to players but thats already been addressed

[storm vigil]

Are you in an unofficial server discords?

[steady lintel]

Look at official pop compared to community pops it speaks for itself

[worn pumice]

quite a few

[vivid tulip]

Manny games are alive beacuse of the community. community servers are huge portion of the playerbase aswell. Run by community, shaped by community. Community can have different oppinions and change certain things in their server . Give lot more option than 1 fixed official server

[storm vigil]

Cool so go read their announcements that admin support is shut down and re-evaluate please.

[robust vine]

ofc whenever theres a game changing update there will typically be alot more people playing, but once the hype dies down the majority of players will return to the legacy branch

[cyan flame]

Just because unofficial servers have more pop, does not mean officials are not popular. And I should point out that I think most of the popularity of unofficials is because well, they try and offer something of a gameplay at times, more so than the main game does, until we get proper gameplay like Fish says.

[worn pumice]

im not going to waste my time reading announcements becuz someone else told me to re-evaluate my statement for something that the devs dont want to bring back

[barren zephyr]

I've been in Nublar for 2 years, about a month after it first started. And Nublars community absolutely hates the removal of global, there are some that don't mind it, but a lot want it back. I myself, would love an option for it but no matter how much I complain it likely won't come back until mods are a thing

[oblique fiber]

That’s not something you can compare, there are many people who are part of both the official isle discord and part of smaller community servers. You can not compare at all. There’s a reason why smaller community servers are thriving.

[storm vigil]

No one is saying officials aren’t popular. We are saying that unofficials are MORE popular and are a core piece of the Isle’s success

[barren zephyr]

And that is the bitter truth

[vivid tulip]

(i personallly never ever touched official servers. not beacuse i dislike it, i just found better communities elsewhere with their rulesets that fit me more bbbasically

[robust vine]

i can say that its the same for most of the asura community (from most of the people i have spoken to)

[steady lintel]

Why is discord brought into this ?

[oblique fiber]

LFaW community is rather annoyed with the global chat removal, too

[storm vigil]

So you’ll remain ignorant but still choose to argue? Weird choice.

[vestal rune]

I mean, the isle isn't really a community focused game, it's literally built on killing each other and being cruel

[barren zephyr]

I don't blame them at all

[oblique fiber]

General population? Like you literally just said.

[worn pumice]

no, im stating my opinion and also stating that speaking about this issue is pointless if the devs arent going to do anything about it

[steady lintel]

Not on discord in game

[vivid tulip]

on other hand there is pack and herd gameplay and nesting too @vestal rune (legacy mostly atm))

[cyan flame]

@vestal rune Can you imagine how it would go if Dondi came back, and just told us all they're doing the original concept and everything else can wait until mods? :p

[vestal rune]

yes, but I still say it isn't community focused

[storm vigil]

That is the entire point of the feedback channel. Why do you think we are here

[oblique fiber]

Okay, official isle servers have more money to spend. Smaller community servers usually only have one owner and rely on donations.

[barren zephyr]

There are a lot of aspects to the Isle that make it the game it is, community included. You can't narrow a game down to just 1 thing, all of these things make Isle what it is. At least, in my opinion

[vestal rune]

I'm confused by what you mean

[robust vine]

i do think that once nesting is introduced people will be more likely to stick with evrima

[worn pumice]

to debate about issues that could be changed or addressed but something like this isnt rly going to change

[oblique fiber]

I’m sure if the smaller community server hosts had access to more slots/servers, they would have a few more.

[mellow steppe]

legacy is probably getting deleted before that even comes

[oblique fiber]

They won’t delete legacy.. right?

[vestal rune]

well, legacy is getting deleted when more people play evrima than legacy, and that'll probably happen once nesting is added

[storm vigil]

If they delete Legacy before they address community concerns, it will be very bad.

[barren zephyr]

They will

[mellow steppe]

yes

[cyan flame]

Wait, you don't know what the original concepts and visions for the game was?

[vestal rune]

eventually they will

[silver zephyr]

eh, they are probably gonna wait till the legacy mechanics are in before they are it

[vivid tulip]

@robust vine I havent got much experience to having "parents" ingame. I have been nested few time by friends. It soo much different feeling ,and you also have good chats with your fellow dino mates ingame

[oblique fiber]

You gotta be effing joking

[cyan flame]

And yes, Legacy will be deleted when Evrima is "up to date" more or less.

[vestal rune]

ohhh that's what you meant, sorry the wording was a bit confusing

[mellow steppe]

no

[vestal rune]

this'll only happen once more people play evrima than legacy

[oblique fiber]

I just bought a new laptop for legacy just before Evrima came through

[cyan flame]

Ah, my apologies then. But yes, imagine how that would go, if they just decided that "we're doing Dondis original vision!" :p

[vivid tulip]

Also I personaly miss the dark nights. and it was a big reason i liked the isle (i know its coming with ya booii annoying dilos haha)

[robust vine]

that would be a very bad move, alot of people have been saying that they wont be playing evrima till nesting is introduced (tho its more because it will be easier to grow with friends in in game without the hassle of having to meet up with them and having to 2 call to be grouped)

[worn pumice]

i dont get why ppl wouldnt switch over at that point its literally the isle but better by the time legacy is deleted (apart from nostalgia)

[cyan flame]

You'll probably be fine on Evrima too then.

[oblique fiber]

Can’t even play Evrima

Way too shit on fps

[cyan flame]

Huh, odd. What are you playing legacy on, setting wise?

[storm vigil]

Yeah, many people I play with can’t run EVRIMA because it’s not optimized yet. It’s a bummer but I understand that’s how betas are. Global is more concerning to me.

[vestal rune]

that would be stupid ye, but dondi's vision is now what the game is because he sees it as better

[oblique fiber]

Medium but I can play on high

[robust vine]

i was having issues at first when evrima was released, but im happy to say that its running fine for me with the graphics on low

[oblique fiber]

Bro, even low graphics lag me out

[vestal rune]

for some reason the live update 3 build actually has worse FPS than the stress test, could be me

[oblique fiber]

Not worth it at all

[robust vine]

have you played around with the settings?

[oblique fiber]

Why can’t things just be left alone?

And yeah, I put them on low and the FPS was 12 at best

[vestal rune]

by the time legacy is deleted, evrima will probably be playable for you

[oblique fiber]

Doubt 100%

[worn pumice]

whats ur gpu and cpu?

[oblique fiber]

I don’t know

[cyan flame]

Because legacy is no good, why would they keep it around. It's even worse since they fixed issues in patches if I recall correctly.

[vestal rune]

I highly doubt they'd delete legacy if evrima is not optimised enough

[worn pumice]

by the time legacy is deleted evrima should be much more optimized

[robust vine]

it would be cool if they kept legacy for people to mod

[oblique fiber]

Evrima is laggy..

[vivid tulip]

personally evrima runs smooth for me on my gtx 1060

[oblique fiber]

It drags in fps

[vestal rune]

but legacy doesn't have mod support, it got nuked by deathly when he left

you can mod it in some ways, but not anything useful

[worn pumice]

i believe they had plans for saying legacy would or could be a DLC thats free

who knows tho

[silver zephyr]

[worn pumice]

idk it was stated in ID

by one of the devs forgot which one

[storm vigil]

Legacy is getting deleted 😦 it’s just a matter of time. They announced it this year.

[vestal rune]

idk why they'd keep legacy playable once all its mechanics are in evrima and it's more optimised

[worn pumice]

no no that ik already

[robust vine]

i mean, theres servers where people have been able to add hypos into the game, i think maybe instead of stopping them from doing this they should just let them since the devs dont care about legacy anymore

[vestal rune]

there are issues with people having access to incomplete content, they won't let that happen

[robust vine]

i mean, what harm can it do at this point

[oblique fiber]

I just give up. I find something good, it stays that way for barely a year then a whole new thing comes out and I can’t play it anymore.

[vestal rune]

it can send the wrong message to new people, plus hypers are meant to be some secretive lore thing, it sucks that you can just play it without the strings attached

[vestal rune]

dude, I'm 90% sure you'll be able to play evrima once legacy is deleted

[oblique fiber]

Dude, I can’t.

[vestal rune]

ye not now, later

[silver zephyr]

atm you can't

[robust vine]

i didnt really think there was a message behind the isle

[oblique fiber]

The fps is crap, the lag sends me everywhere

[vestal rune]

legacy probs won't be deleted for a while

[worn pumice]

nesting and skin system is basically the only thing missing from evrima mechanically

[storm vigil]

😦 I feel you Wendigo. I made some of my best friends playing this game. The changes they’ve made have crippled our ability to play together, and we had to move on to other dino games. We all miss the Isle but it doesn’t look like they’re keeping the community in mind. I get so sad thinking about it.

[vestal rune]

it has deep lore lol, if you're interested you can check the pins in #isle-lore-theories but it's a bit sparse for now

[silver zephyr]

and bonebreak/fractures

[robust vine]

personally i do find lore behind games very interesting but i know that alot of people dont care and only really play for the PVP

[oblique fiber]

It’s just, why change? Why not just leave it alone..

I get legacy is buggy

[vestal rune]

because it's a broken buggy mess that gives people the wrong idea when they get the game

[storm vigil]

I know 😦 it’s very sad

[oblique fiber]

It’s not broken 100%

It was fine.

[vestal rune]

also legacy has hackers which sell their hacks to people, it's terrible and I can't wait for it to stop

[storm vigil]

It was working fine until the recent patch where they tried to put dryos back in

NOW it’s broken.

[oblique fiber]

Evrima is barely playable for people who can’t get top line computers..

[vestal rune]

I have a gtx 970 and play evrima fine, you don't exactly need a NASA computer

[robust vine]

honestly, im really excited for the whole map to be released, pushing the whole global chat issue aside i do find myself really enjoying exsploring different areas of the map

[cyan flame]

@oblique fiber It's not going to be deleted any day or so, you probably have a good amount of time to play there yet. And by the time it does get deleted, Evrima might be playable for you. Or you might have a new pc. Just keep playing legacy and have fun for now, I'm sure you'll get plenty of it before it's all over.

[worn pumice]

agreed

[vivid tulip]

@oblique fiber I'm playing on high-max settings on 1060 6gbb and i5-7600 and game is completlly smooth.

[oblique fiber]

I don’t have the money for a full pc set up..

[worn pumice]

especially new biomes

[robust vine]

mega excited for the redwoods

[oblique fiber]

I barely saved enough for what I have now..

[fickle spoke]

if you have evrima on low settings and cant play it then maybe Pong is more your style

[worn pumice]

redwoods confirmed coming in update 4 is pretty lit

[silver zephyr]

yes now, who knows what you may have by the time legacy does eventually get shut down same with the optimisation thing

[storm vigil]

This is just classism and really isn’t necessary here. It’s ok for people with less money to want to play cool games too.

[worn pumice]

snow and desert type of biomes would be nice too

[silver zephyr]

iirc snow and desert stuff might be in biodomes

[vivid tulip]

But I agree, and not saying you have no point @oblique fiber . Game should get more optimized overtime for budget pc's. most you can do now is to wait sadly. I hope the game will run smoother in the near future or perhaps you can acqure some pc ugrades (in these times.. prices are bbad especially for gpu.. oof))

[fickle spoke]

As if I'm implying "hurr durr get more money scrub" or anything. I'm just saying it doesnt require any sort of decent pc to run this on low lol

[robust vine]

im not sure how they would work with all the other biomes

[oblique fiber]

I have a laptop, that’s all I can get.

[storm vigil]

It does require a decent PC. Pretty silly to imply otherwise. PC parts are crazy expensive right now.

[oblique fiber]

I don’t have the space or money for a pc set up.

[vivid tulip]

honestly

[cyan flame]

@oblique fiber If I were you, I would enjoy legacy for now, work on saving, but not consider getting something more until Evrima is both optimized, and somewhat "stable" in development, so you know it's not gonna crank up graphics or something even more.

[worn pumice]

it could be specific islands, kinda like how u have one big island and a few smaller ones? the smaller ones could be super unique with snow or desert

[vivid tulip]

Laptops are usually bad for going . if you want budget pc, get pc not laptop. trust me

[shrewd harbor]

Yeah the only way I can play Evrima is on low haha 😂

[robust vine]

my laptop overheats so bad playing the isle

[worn pumice]

my laptop def sounds like an engine when i play it

[oblique fiber]

I don’t have space for a pc! I don’t have a great job and I just wanted to keep playing a game I actually enjoyed

[vestal rune]

@heavy gale can you be a bit more specific on what with what the issue is

[robust vine]

currently saving up to build a pc XD

[vivid tulip]

Laptops are great if you need to traver or have no space, bbbut the price / performance ratio is nowhere near pc and overheating problems. My gf's laptop on paper is great, but even with cooler it overheats and need to turn it down from even factory settings

[worn pumice]

i constantly do things so laptops is what i use

[heavy gale]

Oki

[worn pumice]

also always important to keep ur laptop on flat surfaces so the heat can disperse better

[kind parrot]

I really wish they would find a means to remove 'key gathering' locations. No one bothers to spread out, everyone concentrates at the center most spawn or the swamp and that also ads to the lag. I know some of the issue is water drain, you can't really go off to the further reaches and explore with out dropping too low in water that your forced to go back. You'll never see anyone near the costs or other landmarks like the radio tower as by the time you get there on anything but a petra your waters at or below half and you need to turn back.

[vivid tulip]

I'm luckily have a desktop since I'm not requed to move a lot, especially now during corona haha. online Uni classes everything, its geat haha

[vestal rune]

diets will likely encourage migration in the future

[robust vine]

i usually have to take a break for an hour to let it cool down, tho with the isle its annoying to grow since it takes me longer XD

[worn pumice]

yea laptop for me is great but becuz of corona the purpose it served doesnt help me anymore

[rocky lodge]

whats wrong with na 4

i was fucking up crocs in south water fall with my raptor

[vivid tulip]

also question. Do we know if in the day/night cycle update we get super dark nights like in legacy aswell right?

[kind parrot]

I really hope not. I hated the super dark nights and the night vision gave me really bad headaches.

[silver zephyr]

most likely, it's been stated that the current nights are only somewhat bright because we have no nv

[vestal rune]

we should be getting it once we have nv

[storm vigil]

I think so. Isle really pushes the “horror” part in their marketing.

[vestal rune]

NV is getting a rework

[oblique fiber]

I’m going back to console. RDR2 has been a filler for all this

[vivid tulip]

Yeah, i know. I personalyl loved it in legacy

[vestal rune]

legacy's nv was a bit problematic since it forced most dinos to just sit there and do nothing

[silver zephyr]

I think a dark night is fine, night vision just needs to be made not aggravating and exploitable

[robust vine]

dont lose hope, im sure the game will be running alot smoother for you in future

[vivid tulip]

its just such a scary feeling hearing dilos screaming in thefar, while you cant see tham, but they may be already coming for you haha.. and then when you are hiding and just hear huge footstep sounds passing death close to you, lovely feelings

^ that will be the patch im coming fully back boiii xD

[oblique fiber]

I have no hope for Evrima

[robust vine]

ugh i HATE dilos, i've been jump scared by them so many times

[vestal rune]

why not? if legacy could be optimised so can evrima, evrima actually has a better codebase

[kind parrot]

Speaking of dinos screaming from afar. I think sound carries a little too far to be fair. I mean if you want to track something down thats making noise, you really cant, as testing it with a friend the distance from even basic calls is so stupid far your running ha'f the map to something that sounds like it be a few 100 feet away.

[vivid tulip]

@robust vine I hated dilos.. My hatred went so far i became one.. and Hunted rival dilos

XD

[oblique fiber]

I do not like Evrima. I can’t play.

[vestal rune]

I know, I'm talking for the future. Legacy is not gonna get deleted for a while

by that point evrima will probs be more optimised

[oblique fiber]

It’s not getting better, each update craps my fps more.

It’s made playing infuriating and not worth it anymore.

[vestal rune]

I've had people who were unable to play the game be able to play update 3 thanks to optimisation

this'll be the case for you too

[oblique fiber]

I tried and I can’t.

[vestal rune]

ye it may just not be good enough yet

[oblique fiber]

Or ever.

[vestal rune]

give it sometime, it'll get better

[silver zephyr]

I still see no reason to give up playing entirely, if you can just check back up whenever a patch or update comes out to test performance

[kind parrot]

Its going to depend on what server you connect to as well. Some servers are very laggy, while others are not

[vestal rune]

ye, there's no reason evrima will stay unplayable for you forever if legacy was playable

[oblique fiber]

Dude stop. Evrima doesn’t work on my laptop, I’ve tried it in every setting and it’s absolute crap on fps and lag.

[silver zephyr]

yes at the moment

[oblique fiber]

I’m just going back to rdr2

[worn pumice]

they plan for evrima to run better then legacy just wait n see

[vestal rune]

yes, it doesn't work NOW, in the future it will is what I'm saying

[oblique fiber]

I doubt it 100%. I’m out.

[vivid tulip]

not being abble to play doesnt mean game is hopeless. The game currently has WAY better base. and trust me. If you build on crap foundation, it will collapse and crack :p But. I hope the game will be more optimized in those terms. polishing is always ongoing but not highest priority atm . Lot of the performance polishing often appear for games when they have a decent content in them already

[vestal rune]

what? could you show me your magical orb than can predict the future?

evrima has a better codebase than legacy, it just needs some time for optimisation and it will run at least as good

[oblique fiber]

Can you show me yours? No?

[vestal rune]

no, because I don't have one, I just have knowledge from the game's development and what the devs have stated

[oblique fiber]

Evrima isn’t playable for everyone.

I’m just done trying a game that doesn’t work for me.

[vestal rune]

yes, currently it isn't, legacy had optimisation issues in the past too

just come back in a couple months and check, legacy is still her if it doesn't work

[vivid tulip]

as a Work in progress game its pretty normal that its not playablle for everyone

[oblique fiber]

I am done with Evrima. You will not convince me to play it again.

[vestal rune]

what is up with you dude? evrima literally has a better codebase than legacy

it just needs time to optimise

[oblique fiber]

Stop pinging me.

[silver zephyr]

let's just let em be

[vestal rune]

oh my bad

[silver zephyr]

[vestal rune]

ye it's just so odd, I can't get how you can think like that

[fickle spoke]

This dude clearly doesnt wanna play, just let him move on lol. Go play legacy until its gone and then if you dont come back, it's whatever. Hope you find something you can enjoy

[vestal rune]

ok wtf happened that there's suddenly so many pro-group chat removal posts?

kaperoo?

[lofty pagoda]

😳

[honest sparrow]

never heard of it

[silver zephyr]

[lofty pagoda]

xd

[abstract lark]

dead chat

[cyan flame]

Don't ask, you don't want to know, from what I've heard at least.

[vestal rune]

if there's some weird shit going on I need to know

[vivid tulip]

interesting khm

[coral blade]

but I do want to know

[vivid tulip]

honestly

[timber mesa]

~~wait till they find out that legacy is going to be deleted and there will only be evrima ~~

[scarlet nebula]

they were already told, which is what caused the upset i believe

[honest sparrow]

if y'all want to sit around and talk as a dinosaur, play pot, that is all

[abstract lark]

they have said it wont be added back unless modded, so id say thats that

[vivid tulip]

Its annoying. Feedbback seems to be a constant fight bbetwen "BRING BACK GLOBAL" and "NO GLOBAL BAD" Blaah bllaahh groups. why cant everyone just get to the middleground that provides bboth team with the best possible sollution. Adding the option to have it for unofficial servers pretty much same ammount of ppl usuallly reactto the add back, and the do not add back posts. and everyone hating each other over a freaking game ,-,

[coral blade]

like I suggested, option for it to be disabled client-side and server-side

[brittle ivy]

Global chat will only come back if a member of the community creates a mod for it and implements it into an unofficial server. It won't be back in an official capacity.

[abstract lark]

have global auto off, mod it in if you want it

[delicate tulip]

Oh ffs...this shit again!?

[abstract lark]

yeah

[brittle ivy]

There is no debate here, that is the reality of the game.

[cyan flame]

To be honest, PoT is doing a better job of creating movement and all for now :p

[abstract lark]

ok

[vestal rune]

because they stole the isle's diet system

[vivid tulip]

and modding becomes avaible after everything is done I assume?

[silver zephyr]

[steady lintel]

Add the ability to mod then before removing it

[abstract lark]

most likely

[brittle ivy]

It would make sense to offer modding capabilities after the base game is at least mostly complete if not completed entirely.

[cyan flame]

I was unaware that water quality going down was included in "diet" now :p

[vestal rune]

I personally think modding support should be added once all the core shit is done, like imo modding should be a higher priority than just adding more dinos

[abstract lark]

"lets add modding but have 8 playables guys"

[cyan flame]

Not that I think you can "steal" such ideas anyway, some of them are very much basic for a game genre

[vestal rune]

lmao I was being a shitter, but iirc don't they have a food based system as well

[cyan flame]

No, they have different food, but it doesnt do anything :p

[nova anchor]

gois gois the isle stole collision from pot

[vestal rune]

oh fair enough

[hoary dawn]

nah they didn't steal it, they just added a bare bones version of what isle's is gonna be

[steady lintel]

Let’s remove global and make all these community servers wait for a feature way down the road

[abstract lark]

yeah it is working fine

[brittle ivy]

Let's not get into a this game versus that game debate

[vestal rune]

it's much worse that they stole dinosaurs from the isle

ye I should probs stop shitposting oops

[abstract lark]

i mean what does global remove? admins not being able to communicate with players

[cyan flame]

@vestal rune I am glad that all the games are working on anti-afking things, even if they do the same thing, it's still good to me. Water, diets, whatever. Also because some of those things just make sense for the games, they all have dino playables, so some things are universal you know. Just like nesting, or growth, for a survival game mode. And being able to bring food, carnivore and possibly herbivore too.

[delicate tulip]

@vestal rune Ik you're only messin but rn diets is merely an idea that hasn't been implemented so it's free real estate

[nova anchor]

so add admin channel, easy

[abstract lark]

^

[vestal rune]

ye administration is the only problem with removing global, they probs should have added those capabilities BEFORE removing global chat but eh

[delicate tulip]

^^

[abstract lark]

just make admin tools more expansive or give them the needs to announce stuff or help players. no need for a chat room between dinos across a map

[delicate tulip]

For once we agree

[vestal rune]

hopefully adding those tools are top priority, pre-update 4 even

[abstract lark]

with update 4

id say

[vestal rune]

ye possibly

[abstract lark]

well unless a hotfix

idk

[delicate tulip]

Yeah, isn't that the update that's getting the ui overhaul?

[vestal rune]

they said there'll be some post update 3 patches, so it could easily come then

[cyan flame]

I think most of that will come with the UI overhaul yes.

[vestal rune]

but ye, a new admin ticket system would fit very well with a UI overhaul

[kind parrot]

make it so admins can see all chats as if it were global chats, and make it so their messages are seen globally as well.

[vivid tulip]

well UI overhaul may incllude new functionality might aswell

[merry needle]

without global admins cant inforce rules

[abstract lark]

i dont see this problem of lack of admins being able to help as major

theres alot of bigger stuff missing

[vestal rune]

would be nice if they could add some sort of bandaid fix before then though, like maybe allow players to DM admins or something?

[abstract lark]

but it isnt hard to add so idk

[brittle ivy]

Admins can DM players within the admin panel, I don't see why there can't be some sort of implementation for a player to get a hold of a server admin that is online and in that particular server. Just time and patience at this point, it's definitely been suggested.

[quiet estuary]

Ah mb I was not aware there currenlty was some sort of dm system

[elder rivet]

what even is family sharing

[vivid tulip]

you share the game over multiple steam accounts.

[icy lion]

its a steam function where people can link their libraries together, so people who dont own a game can play something their friend owns

you can only play an unowned game if the person who owns it isnt currently playing a steam game, though

[vivid tulip]

letting you have "more" dino. and giving more chance for griefers from alts to come on

I had issues back then when i killed someone

[icy lion]

yea, in terms of the isle its basically alt accounts for free

[vivid tulip]

And they came back as their allts to revenge kill me on the spot

[robust vine]

the majority of people who have alt accounts are people who play in a clan.

although there are people like me who arent in a clan yet still have multiple accounts

[vivid tulip]

I had alts with my friends and we were no clan either. I woulld say that fact may be mostly right since ppl in clans tend to be more into the game = higher chance to make effort to even have alts if yoou know what i mean :o

[kind parrot]

The alt thing don't really fix the issue of revenge killing. I've already had a case on the deino where I killed a carno and they came back as a deino, told a group where I was and that group came back to 'teach me a lessen'.