general-feedback-discussion

[remote plank]

Please tell me that this is something that will be fixed / changed😐

[carmine path]

In what world is this “Dear devs and especially mr dondi himself,
how low have you sunk. Not only are your dinosaurs overall inspiration completely stolen from jurassic park, no now you have also "stolen" the main theme from jurassic world evolution for your shitty little in engine hype trailer for update 3. This is especially hypocritical considering that you have always been so overprotective of your own sounds and music in the past and consider every indie dinosaur game a cheap knock off of your own. Your game has nothing to offer and you are purely riding on the coattails of more popular Dinosaur related ips and its getting more and more obvious. Good job guys honestly.” Criticism

[vestal rune]

ok yes sure, so?

[silver zephyr]

semantics samuels

[hasty dagger]

Let’s say you did make actual criticism for argument’s sake, it’s still invalid because you can’t seem to present any facts to support it.

[carmine path]

How is that supposed to be critcism

[hoary dawn]

dont buy injections, those things need to die

[hasty jackal]

im not the one who twisted the word development to their liking, pls guys you have to see this

[vestal rune]

huh? this isn't an official announcement, where did you get this?

[ripe bear]

I just want to clarify that there is no such word as "active development" which you guys brought up. Either content is in development or its not. thats all

[worn pumice]

again they made a few things for deinos and then stopped productions of it till these past few months

[flat crypt]

In theory it shouldn't matter that you can't do injections, as there is nothing to inject

[worn pumice]

its not that hard to understand

[icy lion]

active development is an extremely common term

[flat crypt]

no one can inject pachy into the game rn cus it doesnt exist

[hasty dagger]

Go find a source for that.

[vestal rune]

active development is a word, it's when something is being actively worked on, where as in development means it has been worked on but is unfinished

[carmine path]

Oh thank fuck the long tyrannical rule of nublar is over!

[worn pumice]

like honestly ur actually annoying u keep twisting shit for no reason

[hasty jackal]

i have tho im just gonna go, actual discussion isnt possible here

[hasty dagger]

You’re not discussing though, just slandering

[polar anchor]

Why yall against injections, just go to a no buy server

[sudden hinge]

No you did you literally made it seem like deino was in active development like do you think every creature is being worked on right now? Like rex to velo being animated and worked on by the entire dev team

[carmine path]

You shat on a game. If you don’t expect backlash from your words and slanderous meanings

[ripe bear]

fanboys gotta fanboy i guess 😂

[carmine path]

😑

[silver zephyr]

arguing a point = fanboy

[vestal rune]

people with no common sense gotta have no common sense I guess

[sudden hinge]

Nah y’all just are being extremely particular in what development means to you

[carmine path]

Where my boy Lunary at

[outer condor]

Yes

[icy lion]

has it gotten worse

[urban flax]

yes

[icy lion]

at this point just end the conversation

seems like its completely devolved

[carmine path]

I summoned a mod through non-official means

Im a god now

[polar anchor]

I'm interested in why some people are against dino injections (with points or real money)
Can someone explain their opinion and why?

[hasty dagger]

Better question for #401464048610312195

[polar anchor]

Ive seen people mention it here just 2 min ago

[manic flint]

The heck happened here?

[urban flax]

It's people making money off dev's work

[carmine path]

Yeah but mods here now so we gotta crack down on rules

[polar anchor]

And since it has something to do with my feedback i am interested in hearing other peoples arguments

[urban flax]

Somewhat illegal

[vestal rune]

with points it's eh, but definitely not with real money that's fucking terrible

[remote plank]

It’s in an other Isle community, where you’re able to buy growths with discord points

[carmine path]

Time to get your weekly points of 100000 with you 1000$ membership

[vestal rune]

it's probably encrypted to avoid people injecting unfinished shit

[polar anchor]

Yea i guess i can understand this what about servers with a point system though? I play on asura, havent paid a single euro and still am able to buy adult dinos for little time invested

[hybrid matrix]

i remember when evrima first came out, ppl could be deinos and pteras

deino was much smaller back then

[carmine path]

People use those discord points in simple terms cryptocurrency which they buy with real money and create an economy with the use of IRL money

[urban flax]

You can't prevent paid injections without preventing free ones

So they chose to prevent both

[polar anchor]

That is true

[carmine path]

Discord Points=Cryptocurrency change my mind

[polar anchor]

Hmm i dont know, servers cost money too i believe so why should anyone host a server if theyd just lose a lot of money with it weekly?

[vestal rune]

people can still get donations, but using it for P2W is really bad

[hybrid matrix]

if this was when it first dropped then ig i just remembered it being pretty small compared to a teno
but teno has a camera angle advantage

[carmine path]

Patreon to keep sever running if they really want

[polar anchor]

Yea i feel that but why should people donate if they get nothing for it

[nova anchor]

old evrima

[vestal rune]

wait you could play trike using that glitch?

[carmine path]

To keep the server they love up

[polar anchor]

Of course you'll occasioanally have nice people but that wont do for long

[nova anchor]

it was SUPER buggy though

[hybrid matrix]

were trikes injectable 👀

[nova anchor]

they were, but they were broken as shit lmao

[hybrid matrix]

so was deino

[nova anchor]

more broken than deino

[carmine path]

You’d be surprised if a server has a large enough community like nublar

[hybrid matrix]

i remember how it used to put its face thru the floor when it ran

[carmine path]

Or the former bio isle

[polar anchor]

What about smaller servers tho?

Theyd just die..

[carmine path]

Tough luck

Simple as that

[urban flax]

You gotta make sure you have budget to host a server, that's all

[carmine path]

Exactly

[hybrid matrix]

wait does it cost money?

[carmine path]

Yes?

[polar anchor]

Mmh i dont know, it feels like a part of isle would get lost a bit

[urban flax]

Of course it does, unless you're hosting it on your PC

[hybrid matrix]

do u mean like renting a server? or hosting ur own

[carmine path]

PC hosts are terrible btw

[polar anchor]

I play on a no buy server but at times you just wanna hop onto a buy server buy 3 pues and kill stuff

[carmine path]

Uh no.

[carmine path]

Sandbox

For a reason

[urban flax]

If a part of the Isle gets lost because you can't buy dinos in unofficial servers, then I feel it's a part that deserves to be lost

[polar anchor]

Idk sandbox is just not the same though

[carmine path]

I am going to refer to evrima as the cleansing of the isle

[carmine path]

Sandbox servers can be on maps as well

[vestal rune]

with the global chat removed it really is lmao

loving it

[carmine path]

Like that dumb IoFT server on legacy

[polar anchor]

I mean tbf i hope they'll leave it open as something optional!
It would be nice to see how many people will play on what kind of server

[urban flax]

Maybe that's devs' secret goal behind hard removal of global chat ? Get rid of their community and only keep the most hardcore survival enjoyers in ?

[polar anchor]

And whatever is less liked will die out

[carmine path]

Doubt it

[hybrid matrix]

Evrima? more like, enema

[polar anchor]

I mean evrima currently is a RP game lool

[carmine path]

Somebody drag him out of here

[cyan flame]

They do want to return to their survival roots. So maybe not a goal itself, but a side effect.. :p

[carmine path]

There you go

[carmine path]

And no

[urban flax]

Dondi is a reptilian
All that happens is according to his plan

[hybrid matrix]

i liked global, but its not like i cant deal without it

[polar anchor]

but how do i tell hypsis how freakin cute they are now

[carmine path]

I can’t wait till i get home so i can watch the trailer

[hybrid matrix]

however i am gonna miss watching arguments while sitting in a bush as a rex

[polar anchor]

LOL true

[urban flax]

Eat them
They'll understand

[polar anchor]

[cyan flame]

I know right, afkgrowing made tolerable :p

[polar anchor]

Afk growing is gonna be big in evrima lmao

[carmine path]

Same, i wanna see the people say “Why you kill me you piece of shit” ah im gonna miss the toxicity

[urban flax]

It's not gonna exist in evrima

[polar anchor]

Grew a croc to 50% by sitting in a boosh

So

[hybrid matrix]

i mean
in legacy, sitting in a bush and watching ppl argue was the only thing u could do while growing

nobody tell em

[vestal rune]

afk growing may stay with deino lmao, deino has ass gameplay

[carmine path]

Afk is gonna be next to damn impossible in evrima

[polar anchor]

And then i left the boosh

[vestal rune]

I knew deino was gonna be shit to play, and I was right

[polar anchor]

Deino is just a bit weird imo

Its so strong but weak at the same time

[hybrid matrix]

i feel like sometimes its good to gear a dino towards afking

[carmine path]

Deino just needs to be fixed

[hybrid matrix]

deino is a crocodile
crocs (from my knowledge) spend a lot of time just chillin

[carmine path]

I mean the hitboxes and shit

[hybrid matrix]

oh yeah

[carmine path]

Water lunge and all that fun stuff

Biteforce increase when sucho n’shit come out

[hybrid matrix]

but i mean generally i feel like deino shouldn't be punished for lazing around

[urban flax]

Haven't they fixed the hitboxes in update 3 already ?

I guess we're gonna have to wait 5 hours to know

[hybrid matrix]

idk
havent had a chance to play yet

[carmine path]

Not from what i read in devblog

[urban flax]

Oooooooooh I just realised hy I didn't see any deino in the rivers today as a ptera xD

[polar anchor]

Legit i was drinking as a stego, croc jumped out at me and i couldnt run or anything because i was stuck in the crocs head

[urban flax]

They haven't grown yet

[carmine path]

Give em 3hrs

[hybrid matrix]

oof

wait

how big were u

and how big was the croc

[vestal rune]

maybe you were grabbed?

[carmine path]

🥳

[polar anchor]

Croc looked fresh adult and so wa si

Nope wasnt grabbed

I could turn

[carmine path]

Stego fresh adult small af

[hybrid matrix]

huh

[polar anchor]

Just not...walk

Like i could attack etc

[vestal rune]

oh ok that's really weird

[polar anchor]

Just not actually reposition

[hybrid matrix]

yeah deino gets a big weight buff as soon as it reaches adult

huh

ok

[carmine path]

Dude i had that glitch too

[polar anchor]

Ye they gotta fix thag

[hybrid matrix]

so u should report that

[polar anchor]

Didnt have a ss or video

[hybrid matrix]

might not kno about the bug

[carmine path]

I died to a fucking baby deino cause of that shit

[hybrid matrix]

how big were u

[polar anchor]

Ouuuf that hurts even more

[hybrid matrix]

and were u a stego?

how big were u and wut were u pyro

pyro?

[urban flax]

Didn't you read ? He said he died

He's not gonna answer you now

Cuz he's dead

[polar anchor]

[hybrid matrix]

haha

i think he's not answering me bc he was something big

and understandably, it's embarrassing to die to a baby deino if ur something that could curbstomp a baby deino

but they shouldnt be embarrassed about it bc it was from a bad hitbox

[urban flax]

Hope trample damage will also fix these kind of issues 🙂

[hybrid matrix]

yeah

[carmine path]

Ok im back

[hybrid matrix]

oh

[urban flax]

Oh he's no longer dead

[hybrid matrix]

hahahahahahhaa

[urban flax]

Praise

[carmine path]

Also fuck you deptah cause you were right i was full grown 😭

[hybrid matrix]

i thought u didnt wanna answer me

OHHHH

oh man thats a big oof

shouldnt be embarrassed tho

[carmine path]

I lunged a baby deino killed it and it just made me move forward constantly

[hybrid matrix]

wait

were u floating?

[carmine path]

So his little buddy killed me

[hybrid matrix]

i think my friend got that bug

[carmine path]

Nah i was in shallow water

[hybrid matrix]

oh

[carmine path]

Like walkable

[hybrid matrix]

and u were also a deino?

wait nvm

ok

[carmine path]

Yes deino

[hybrid matrix]

generally u shouldnt lunge baby deinos bc its a waste of stam when u could easily just bite em a few times

[carmine path]

The one i lunged was like fresh sub

[hybrid matrix]

oh

even fresh subs are better to just bite

if its another deino, its better to just bite

[carmine path]

Eh i like to let em plea for their life before they die 😈

[hybrid matrix]

so bite em once and give em a little headstart b4 u catch em

[carmine path]

Which is exactly what i ended up doing before i died

Then i died

I have never genuinely raged at the isle

Till that very moment

[hybrid matrix]

first time losing an apex, ey?

[carmine path]

Nope

Lost many of those

Just didn’t like that i died because of a bug

[hybrid matrix]

i think i got used to losing apexes around the 5th giga in a row

[carmine path]

I got used to it when i fell of a damn cliff when i played my 1st adult giga

Went on a damn slipping slide

Pure beauty right here

[hybrid matrix]

once i lost a giga when i was trying to log out at radio bc my giga friends and i were getting chased by rexes.
my mom got impatient bc i was taking so long to log out so she closed the cover of my laptop as i was about to sit down and log at my nest
by the time i started the game back up one rex was biting my face, and the other was biting my ass
twas a very painful way to lose a giga

[hybrid matrix]

thats perfect

[carmine path]

Gotta love it

[hybrid matrix]

but the ptera deserved death for flying carelessly towards the river

[carmine path]

Carno coming in for a free meal got fucked

Goes to show how deinos lunge is good in situations like these

[hybrid matrix]

that reminds me of the time i was flying and some random ptera crashed into me and we landed in the water, and i was focused on getting out of the water
ptera landed farther from shore than me, so i had a better chance of getting out alive than it did
i made it to shore, looked back, and saw the deino :)

that happened to me twice

[carmine path]

💡 Ultimate bait: Use ptera friend to dive in watee around carnos or utahs when you are deino and drag those boys in when they try to grab the ptera

[hybrid matrix]

that time i was an adult

and the other time i was a baby, and another baby crashed into me, and there was a little deino in the river below
deino was after me at first, but i got away from the water b4 it could catch me, so instead of leaving the water, it went for the other baby

[carmine path]

Yes deino lunge is good(Act like were talking about feedback cause we been off-topic for awhile)

[urban flax]

Magy good

[carmine path]

False

[urban flax]

Prove it

[hybrid matrix]

exactly
i dont see y ppl cant understand that our fictionalized magy will be able to hold its own against midtier carnivores

[carmine path]

They’re not gonna believe that

Say “Deino needs a buff”

[hybrid matrix]

a realistic magy would be garbage

our magy is good tho

[urban flax]

Deino needs a boeuf

[carmine path]

Nice spelling

[hybrid matrix]

only buff it needs is a better bite hitbox

[urban flax]

I'm french after all

[carmine path]

So am I

[hybrid matrix]

and the ability to grab things up to 1.5x its weight if theyre swimming

[urban flax]

wat really ?

[barren zephyr]

"Deino needs a buff so I can 1 shot everyone >:(((" - shit rex mains

[carmine path]

My parents speak french but I can’t speak it for shit

[carmine path]

Both french

[hybrid matrix]

oi
i may be a shit rex player/main but u cant use that to represent all the shit rex players/mains

[barren zephyr]

It's a joke

[hybrid matrix]

i kno

i was joking too
sorta

[carmine path]

I can understand wanting to buff deino 600N as a placeholder but some people talking bout 1000N for a ecosystem that isn’t even fulfilled yet and is no where near full completion and has 1 midtier dino and only 2 somewhat apex dinos and one of then is deino

[hybrid matrix]

honestly all these people who want fully realistic stats for dinos should know how insanely broken rexes would be

[barren zephyr]

Feedback on global chat being a server setting, I 100% agree. It sucked when I joined the server I admin at and couldn't see everyone chatting, and I couldn't greet them or answer any questions they had without forcing them to join Discord or using annoying announcements

[hybrid matrix]

57,000 Newtons would like to know your location

[urban flax]

Not that much since they'd be outrun by humans

[carmine path]

Laarkin we all had this conversation earlier ngl

[mellow steppe]

there seems to be some.. lag

[barren zephyr]

Idc putting in my 2 cents

Ignore it if ye want

[carmine path]

Ima do the second one

[hybrid matrix]

some rex estimates have it at like 40 kph (iirc i may or may not be getting this from the early 2000s)

[urban flax]

That's really outdated

[hybrid matrix]

anyway ima go try out the new update

[hybrid matrix]

[urban flax]

Recent estimates put it around 15 km/h

[mellow steppe]

gl

there is so much dsync

[hybrid matrix]

i was gonna be a teno but i only rlly have time for a ptera

[carmine path]

I want an arid map lime this

[mellow steppe]

or dryo

[carmine path]

Thats the wrong photo

[silver zephyr]

uh

[mellow steppe]

OMG I LOVE THAT MAP

😐

[carmine path]

We ain’t gonna talk bout that

[barren zephyr]

If this game had realistic stats.. man oh man that would be a disaster

[mellow steppe]

yeah

[carmine path]

Did yah like my lvl13 elite barbs at least

[urban flax]

If this game had realistic stats Utahs would be fodder 🙂

[carmine path]

Kinda is without pounce

[urban flax]

Good thing this isn't a realistic game after all

[carmine path]

Semi-Realism at best

[barren zephyr]

People want Deino to have irl croc stats as well.. Deino was like 10x the size of a croc I recon? Huh?

[urban flax]

So we can enjoy ninja-raptors and psychic mutant spinos (well we will enjoy psychic spinos later)

[carmine path]

I believe you mean PTSD delivery services

[urban flax]

Same thing
But psychic spino sounds cooler

[carmine path]

Fuck

I just realized im gonna see #Update4When usernames 😭

Only reason a person would play pachy is to just fracture and run

[urban flax]

That's a good reason

Stego is just stab and not run after all

And dryo is run and keep running

[carmine path]

Oh shit i almost forgot i gotta go watch the trailer

[rocky iris]

@narrow sinew idk if anyone said it but the stress test announcements was taken down or hidden, they'll probably bring it back when they do it again later on.

[narrow sinew]

thanks!

[rocky iris]

Not a problem!!

[thorny apex]

I dont have an esc menu in evrima anyone know anything about that?

[safe galleon]

@violet vessel you can't

[violet vessel]

why not

[safe galleon]

because he can't

[violet vessel]

I thought that was a feature of the dryo

[safe galleon]

in legacy yes, not in evrima

[violet vessel]

ah i see thanks.

[vestal rune]

@barren zephyr the reason you can't change settings ingame is to avoid exploitation, not for realism, you can use it to see people hiding. cinematic shaders are not intended for gameplay, only for screenshots, play on epic. it is REALLY easy to find friends, literally just use coords it's the easiest shit. as for global, that's a whole discussion

[elder rivet]

i can change settings in-game, at least graphic settings

[vestal rune]

graphic settings ye, it's like that because it can be used for exploiting

[elder rivet]

don't they have a 5 sec cooldown

[vestal rune]

I don't see how that matters

[barren zephyr]

So do you think they're setting out a patch to make it to where you can still change settings but not see people hiding, because it is still quite annoying.

[vestal rune]

they can't just do that, changing settings inherently causes that. They could maybe fix it but that would be too much effort, just figure out what works and don't play on cinematic

[barren zephyr]

Oh you're referring to when you change a setting and all the vegetation resets, I understand now.

[vestal rune]

yep

[barren zephyr]

Also i know this is a little far fetched, but the version they updated the game to Whatever direct X version it is, is it the one where you can code in DLSS, because i would love to see that down the road. It would make the game more enjoyable, if not then nvm

[zenith scroll]

@barren zephyr cinematic isnt meant to be played on

[elder rivet]

instead, put everything on low for the epic 30 fps

[velvet sundial]

@zenith scroll Actually, my 3070 can handle cinematic and volumetric clouds on 1440p very well

[zealous nova]

I can’t update isle every time I try it says files not found and I haven’t messed with anything

[paper oriole]

Don't think people should be outrigjt prevented from nesting during certain times. A wet and dry season would be nice but a player shouldn't be restricted by time and place on where they want to nest, they should only be encouraged to do it at those times/places

[chrome adder]

I mean that would at least prevent large carnivores to just spam out offspring (and then often only care for one). Or you'll have giant Rex families. I agree restriction sounds bad, but I think it just make the game a bit more dynamic.

[paper oriole]

Different incubation times and clutch yields would help with that

Like large predators would yield small clutches of eggs with long incubation timers, vs a small prey animal having the ability to produce large clutches with fast incubation

[slow glade]

^

[chrome adder]

This also sounds like a good idea. The only problem I have with this is that it kinda forces large predators to be sedentary. I don't know if it is a good or bad thing though..

[paper oriole]

With two parents it should be fine, it's a voluntary commitment

Taking turns incubating

[potent sparrow]

I haven't tested this to see if it works but if it doesn't, carno at full speed ramming into tree/walls will make the carno collapse like the ptera when you don't land properly, is this a thing already or should I throw this in feedback suggestions xD

[shrewd harbor]

I agree with removing the chat being a weird choice as it’s harder for admins to help people....

[young token]

damn that's a good point too lol

impossible for communities to be able to communicate; people can no longer ask for moderator help

[silver zephyr]

that can be fixed with a private admin chat of some sort, global isnt needed in that regard

[young token]

how does that make any sense

[silver zephyr]

[young token]

if no admins are online? if someone's asking for the invite to the server discord or any other question that can be handled without an admin?

the community is needed and a necessary part of any multiplayer game I don't really know how to explain that

[shrewd harbor]

The only way admins can atm is by making announcements which I feel kinda ruins the feel of the game.

Esp if they go over kill with it

[silver zephyr]

before you enter a server there is actually a discord option, idk if it actually workts atm but having that you dont need to ask randos in the game

[velvet sundial]

@fierce robin @wind moth @im soul I agree global should return for admins to enable. Global species is also not bad, though. It's used more and much closer to you

[swift dew]

the argument of "its a multiplayer game therefore it should have global chat" is ridiculous, there are many multiplayer games without global chat, the reason being it doesn't fit the game. and guess what, the reason we dont have global chat is because it doesn't fit the game

[silver zephyr]

agreed, I'm personally happy global is gone but there should be a way to contact admins regardless

[shrewd harbor]

I mean pros and cons with global means no toxic players spamming but it was also handy for admins to know who needed help

But I suppose the devs might have a plan in the future to help hopefully

[young token]

the block/mute button is also a common feature in games for a reason

[silver zephyr]

iirc punch mentioned something like admin tickets, lemme go check his logs

[young token]

if spamming is a problem maybe they should just be mutable like a normal game, lol

[shrewd harbor]

I think there was a function of a mute button in legacy

[young token]

I'm fine with things like official servers or certain servers choosing to disable global chat for their own purposes but removing it from the game entirely doesn't make any sense

[silver zephyr]

#401464048610312195 message this is what punch had to say in regards to admin stuff

[shrewd harbor]

Ooo thank you

[young token]

The only reasoning I've seen for it is that "people can't complain anymore" but if you're that sensitive to people speaking I think that's your problem

and also: mute function

^ that as well

[silver zephyr]

not liking global = anti social

[young token]

fulgore i literally know that you personally are a solo player who doesn't chat

[shrewd harbor]

I made quite a few friends via the isle global chat and found a lovely server. So I do miss the global chat

[silver zephyr]

I am solo but I do chat

[swift dew]

excuse me, but what does anti-social have anything to do with not liking global chat because It ruins the game that the devs are trying to make?

[young token]

how does it ruin the game

[fierce robin]

Well it's a fairly simple fix, make it default off, give admins the choice to turn global chat on. just because you don't like it, it doesn't mean others should be forced to have it off. for some people (like me) it brings a fantastic social element to the game. I play while I work a lot, and it's nice to tab in and chat to the friends I'v made over the last couple months without having discord and stuff open

[shrewd harbor]

I think what they are trying to say that it doesn’t feel as immersive for them?

[swift dew]

it does, but you wouldn't understand because you just want the game to be a chat room. see I can make assumptions too

[young token]

explain how

[silver zephyr]

idk if thats what the devs reasoning was, iirc punch said sumthin sumthin about it detracting from the survival aspect, let me see if I can find the message

[fierce robin]

Piggy why are you so hostile about people wanting to talk to friends on a community server

If you dont like it, play on servers that dont have it. its really not an issue you have to think about

[silver zephyr]

they dont seem hostile atm

[shrewd harbor]

Honestly they should allow the people who buy the servers to make that choice if they want it or not

[swift dew]

nah, im hostile because I disagree with them

[young token]

so there is no explanation

this dude got no reasons

[fierce robin]

I'll be honest, I love this game but I probably wont play for long with this turned off. its obviously my own issue that its an issue for me. but I'm just trying to voice my opinion on a game I like so maybe the devs can see who this decision affects

[swift dew]

ive got plenty of reasons, im just trying to preserve my brain cells since I already lost half of them talking about it earlier

since people just dont understand

[young token]

where they at

[shrewd harbor]

Ahh confirmed troll

[silver zephyr]

#401464048610312195 message punch's reasoning

[swift dew]

look high up in this chat if you really want to see them, im not wasting anymore time arguing with people who want a survival horror game to be a chat room

[silver zephyr]

well there were others but they were the same reworded

[young token]

we literally just want it to be a game buddy

it's not a horror game either

I mean the devs sure can try all they want but its just dinosaurs

[fierce robin]

I understand and accept punch's reasoning for it, I get it. for community servers I dont. like I said I'll probably stop playing now but that's on me. just wanted to voice an opinion

[shrewd harbor]

Thank you, I don’t know if I agree with them on that point for some yes but at the same time again it’s handy having the global

There should be an option for those who want it or don’t

[young token]

I don't see how it detracts from the survival part

[swift dew]

ooh, really? because it is DEFINITLY survival horror. it might not have the horror aspect yet, but its coming, just you wait

[young token]

You're still surviving even if you talk to people

[young token]

I've been waiting 5 years. how long have you owned this game lol

[silver zephyr]

idk you ask punch

[fierce robin]

I can't use discord when I'm working. thats why I like the global chat function and play on a community server

so I can talk to the community

[swift dew]

what does this have to do with it being survival horror? i dont care how long you have played, the game the devs are aiming for is a survival horror game with dinosaurs

[young token]

because in that time it has come no closer to being a survival horror game

I've watched them chase their own tails in development lol. I don't trust that it'll become a horror game any time soon

[swift dew]

in that time they have also remade the game from the ground up

[fierce robin]

I think it was a really bad and quick decision with no community input tbh

[young token]

^

[silver zephyr]

some form of private admin chat, punch has said it themselves they could do it, once again global isnt needed in this specific instance

[fierce robin]

At least allow us to voice that we should be able to toggle it on community servers

[young token]

a really pervasive problem of this game is the devs repeatedly forcing their own opinions with little consideration for community input or flexibility

[silver zephyr]

you are voicing, do you see the amount of feedback on it?

[young token]

Private admin chat is bizarre and doesn't make sense lol

[fierce robin]

I do, and it seems mostly ignored as a lot of people have asked for a toggle option

[swift dew]

they can add a functionality where players can contact admins in a 1 on 1 chat. there is also a thing called discord where people do rulebreak reports, from my time playing on unoffical servers, the admins don't care about what happend if they didnt see it, you have to give them a report on discord not in global

[young token]

especially again for problems that don't need to be solved with an admin/mod

[fierce robin]

well. it's late here so I'm getting off. it is what it is. I just hope they allow us to toggle in the future. if not I'm probably out for the time being.

[young token]

• tabbing out to discord is annoying and no one does it really while playing. just being able to say things in game is way more likely to be seen and responded to
• also that. some people don't have discord lol
• admin chat is unnecessary for things that could be asked about without admin chat. expecting admins to address every single question someone might have is ridiculous

[silver zephyr]

he also mentioned a method that does not require you to use discord that punch has said is possible

[swift dew]

ok, that doesn't change the fact that every rule server I have played on (quite a few actually) has asked people in global to submit a rulebreak report in their DISCORD rather than global, they dont care if the person has discord or not, they said do it in the discord

[young token]

mm that is incorrect

an admin will not tell you to submit a rulebreak report in discord for every single question you might have, including questions that don't involve rules

[silver zephyr]

in what way? once again there is a potential method that doesnt require discord or global, and even if they are overly using it they can get warned for such

[swift dew]

it actually is correct, if the admin didnt see it it goes into the discord

[swift dew]

im talking about rulebreaks because that was the problem that was brought up . if you want to talk about questions I already gave you a solution, a 1 on 1 chat with the admin

[young token]

ok consider this

• "what do i do if im stuck"
• "how do i get to <location>"
• "can i get a server invite" - you know, without having to spend the time logging out to the menu
• "how long does x take to grow"
  explain why these need an admin chat

[worn pumice]

I just keep disc and the game open

Not rly a big deal to me

Would be nice tho for there to be some way for admins to actually speak to the server

For ppl who need help, stuck, etc

[young token]

and the benefit to that over having a global chat is?

you're basically saying that discord can function like a global chat that is kept in the other tab

[silver zephyr]

how long something takes would preferebly be in like a stat menu, if your stuck you contact an admin lol, if you ignore the discord button just log out and click it (it wont kill you), learning how to traverse the map is moreso a git gud thing as its better to travel and experience it first hand + it would be hard for a rando to explain taking into consideration where you are

[young token]

this dude just said git gud

[worn pumice]

Not having ppl constantly whine

[swift dew]

"what do I do if im stuck" you shouldn't get stuck idealy, and if you got stuck you need an ADMIN to teleport you out so you can do it in the ADMIN chat.
"how do I get to <location>" alot of the game is exploration, they can find it themselves or google a map
"can I get a server invite" server invite? wth is this, this has never been a thing.
"how long does x take to grow" this wont be an issue because of diets growth times wont be set in stone, so its immpossible to give an accurate answer

[silver zephyr]

yes to learning the map well, its best to experience it first hand

[worn pumice]

Global encouraged sit and chat behavior which seems ok but it’s just makes the game a chat simulator

[shrewd harbor]

Piggy you say that server invite has never been a thing it has

People who enjoy the community they are playing with ask that question

[young token]

ah! if you're tired of people whining, here's 3 very easy solutions:

• stop being sensitive lol
• just don't read it?
• a mute function

[swift dew]

yes it definitly did, you have no idea how many herbivores I have seen just sitting and filling up global chat with random shit

[worn pumice]

Lmao ur telling me the person complaining about the whining to stop beings sensitive?

[young token]

if you're annoyed by that that sounds like a you problem

yea stop complaining

[worn pumice]

It did

That’s what legacy is

AFK growing and looking at global

[swift dew]

every herbivore that wasn't some hardcore herbi pvper was a sit and chat about random shit player

[silver zephyr]

it did, tbh I dont really mind global on unofficials but I saw so many people just sitting on their asses and typing

[young token]

i dont know how to explain to you that people are going to sit and grow regardless of the presence of a chat

a chat makes it a bit more interesting

but people are still going to sit

[silver zephyr]

thats because the current game allows for afk growing, preferably it wont be a thing where you can sit on your ass 24/7

[worn pumice]

Not when diets come out

[young token]

ah! so diets will fix the sitting?

[swift dew]

if a chat is the most intesting part of the game for you please go find something else, maybe like a chatroom?

[young token]

then global chat won't be a problem when diets come out

[worn pumice]

Tell that to the devs lol

It’s already removed so I could care less

[young token]

im not sure what else you think a general feedback channel is for

[young token]

i never said it was the most interesting but it's definitely part of it. If you think it was a problem then you simply don't have to read it

[swift dew]

well in the game the devs are creating it shouldn't be a part

[young token]

why is that

[swift dew]

i have already given you reasons, this is why im done here, because people just keep asking the same questions, over and over. and its a cycle, good day.

[young token]

thank goodness

[barren zephyr]

yes

[young token]

indeed

[silver zephyr]

I understand though? I'm fine with it being available on unofficials but yall are making it seem like it has a crazy amount of uses, and some of those uses should just be fixed with game mechanics. I get wanting to communicate with others I have fun doing it myself from time to time.

[young token]

huh

[worn pumice]

Well guess the devs atleast understand is that’s why it got removed

U can probably just get it back through modding anyways

Why not lol

[silver zephyr]

just ask punch why it was removed, our opinions and ideas arent carbon copies of the devs

[young token]

it literally exists in the game why make it moddable lol

[past dune]

i think its fair to have non official servers to have the ability to turn global on or off

[silver zephyr]

I think thats fine as well

[past dune]

ikr, like if your gonna dislike then play the servers, ez problems ssolved

[thorny lynx]

@full tendon I'll report it, thanks.

[past dune]

my other ideas was detachable branches

similar to meat chunk nabbing

[tribal umbra]

Found a bug on live, do I post that in the channel above? uwu

[silver zephyr]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 here I believe

[tribal umbra]

Ooh tyty

[silver zephyr]

👍

[warm flame]

@stone notch the server restarted, relog and your dino should be back

[west pendant]

I personally like no global because when you see another species you don't know their intentions, an can't just go 'hi im friendly dont kill me'

[rugged fulcrum]

yea but unofficial servers have rules and kind of need global to explain that so ppl dont rulebreak constantly

[sturdy widget]

Those reversed shant claws are cursed man, love it

[rugged fulcrum]

?

what? lol

[cyan flame]

@barren zephyr Next time, you know to make a stop/dodge right before, then watch the utahs run past and fall down. Then you can chirp cutely at em from up there before walking away :p

[glad dirge]

I tried that and dodged off the cliff

[manic flint]

Oof

[cyan flame]

@glad dirge I keep forgetting that the dodge is no longer controllable, but fine, stop and turn then. You get the idea I'm sure :p

Would still be funny if you successfully pulled that vs the utahs or carno chasing you :p

[vast condor]

@tall oasis can you confirm that by any chance? About the map.

[cyan flame]

@vast condor Humans will get an ingame map I think, dinos most likely not.

[thorny lynx]

Just realized how small Deino's tongue is
https://i.imgur.com/xWemA6Y.png
https://img.17qq.com/images/sqfpkwnwy.jpeg

I can't post it tho. I'm on cd.

[wide locust]

Maybe for dinos, an ingame map that shows where you've been? Kind of like a migrational memory

[thorny lynx]

Why is the feedback cooldown so long. Damn. An hour at most.

[swift dew]

@vast condor there might eventually be an ingame map, hopefully only for the humans though.

[dense vale]

the server admins having to flash a big message on everyones screen every time they need to talk to someone is alot more immersion breaking than global chat

[brittle ivy]

We have an in-game DM system now should we need to speak with a person. We don’t have to use announcements anymore to get ahold of one person.

[still raptor]

Global chat shouldn’t come back at all. The amount of unnecessary toxicity to the point of racial slurs among other bad stuff is just insane. Glad its gone forever

[rustic zenith]

No..just no

[steady lintel]

Have a auto filter

[still raptor]

Well, when it makes up the entire chat most of the time.... Then you have people asking if theres any packs or groups. It just ruins the immersion aspect of the game

[steady lintel]

Hide chat

[still raptor]

You literally couldn’t do that before the beta build

[steady lintel]

I can hide local chat now I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible to hide global as well

[swift dew]

bobburger, what would be the good aspects of global chat?

[steady lintel]

Asking for an admin to unstuck you without having to use a third party app

[swift dew]

because some people want global chat because, and I quote "I have made friends in global" which is dumb reasoning since its a survival horror game and not a find a friend chatroom

[steady lintel]

I didn’t say that tho

[still raptor]

If you want global someone will mod it

[swift dew]

thats a pretty good reasoning, but this can be worked around with a simple 1 on 1 chat with the admins

[steady lintel]

Can players start that chat with admins ?

Or does the admin have to reach out to em

[swift dew]

yes, I feel it would be pretty simple to make

that is genuinly the only problem I see with removing global chat, where it would be slightly more difficult to reach admins, which is an easy work around

[cyan flame]

If mods are the answer to everything, then there's no point in having any server settings really. And mods being the answer would be fine, if we were getting that any time soon, which I don't think we are.

[swift dew]

and if you want global chat, they will be for global chat too

[lusty agate]

The global chat should be an admin option

[cyan flame]

@barren zephyr At least they used to be. And really, it would be fine if we had mods in this instance.

But since we don't, and they've otherwise argued for server options, it seems off that some are fine but others are not, despite most cases changing the experience more or less far from the official one.

[rustic zenith]

Yeah the game has been in the works for year's let not talk about mods just yet.

[spiral ravine]

@rich owl that's locked health, it'll slowly heal up over time

it happens after you got heavily injured in a combat

[rich owl]

@spiral ravine since when did they do that?

i swear it's not going up after 75%

[spiral ravine]

yeah it can feel like that, sitting makes it faster

[rich owl]

and also my health just keeps going up so slowly when i take damage

i swear it's bugged

[spiral ravine]

think utah has a relatively slow health regen

[rich owl]

there's no way they nerfed it that hard after the update

i almost only play raptor dude

[spiral ravine]

it might be, we've had carno locked health bug where it's permanent

maybe it's back

[rich owl]

i think it is back

a carno headbutted be and then the server reset

and now my health wont go up as fast again

[spiral ravine]

mmm, if relogging doesn't help then it could be a bug

id put a report in the bug-report channel

[rich owl]

i did relog

that was the first thing i did

[spiral ravine]

make sure you have a video or screenshot that shows the bug, then submit a bug report

[river thorn]

Its really not a dumb reason. At the end of the day we are human beings, not dinosaurs. It's dumb to think people don't need to communicate like human beings. Its not like you can't ignore global chat if you don't like it.

[rocky aspen]

bruh 😐

[river thorn]

Sorry, not sorry.

[rocky aspen]

The point of the game is to communicate like Dino’s not people so that argument doesn’t exactly make sense

[river thorn]

Global chat has never stopped anyone from communicating like a dino in game.

I've played enough to know that if I want to ignore global, I can. That's all there is to it.

In every RPG game I've ever played, there's never been a problem playing it because of global chat. That's absolutely ludacris.

The only time you don't need global chat is if you're playing a single player game.

But lets go ahead and see how a lack of global chat works for us, maybe we will work it out just fine. :/

[gusty mulch]

Why have chat box if we have to communicate like dinosaurs? Just bark and honk, ez haha lol

[cyan flame]

Most of the time you're better off using calls for immediate action than typing things out. And you can still group and see nametags, even if you no longer have a group chat. So group is still useful.

[gusty mulch]

Names disappear once you reach a certain distance away from your group members, last I checked

[cyan flame]

They do, but from what I've experienced, that's a decent distance. Outside of local chat range at the very least.

So you can still split up and see each other unless you go pretty far away, even if you can't talk in local at that point. But that can be somewhat mitigated by said calls, if you hear a danger call from where your friends nametag is, well...

[river thorn]

Local chat is a different story. It's easier to just get in a call with your group so you can strategize and explain things to each other. Also to simply have a good time playing a game because you're human beings having a good time. There's nothing wrong with that.

Global chat though...at least give servers the option to choose if they want to have it or not.

[ruby cipher]

Admins need global to be able to talk to everyone. Especially for people who are rule breaking and explain to them etc, honestly, at this point isle devs don’t listen, think some might just leave the isle.

[cyan flame]

@round juniper Broadcast, but use it sparingly, make sure you're hidden in case the wrong thing finds you first, and always move along a little bit after you've called. This usually works better with herbis, they're at least a touch less likely to eat you, but can work with carnis too. Just travel on your own, use call when you're in somewhat safety, follow others calls and approach with caution when you do find them.

[lament finch]

Honestly them doing this is gonna be just another last straw for a lot of people. Already a lot of people strictly play legacy despite it being broken because it has better grouping system and now apparently its the only branch with global chat. Cannot understand this decision to force every server to not have a global chat

[ruby cipher]

They need it an option for owners to turn it on and off honestly. And if they are trying to get rid of toxicity, people still are toxic in local either way

And I am lonely just trying to find people to even talk to. I want my global back

[lament finch]

Seriously, removing global isn't going to fix toxic players, all it does is make unofficial servers very difficult to play on and makes it borderline impossible for admins to enforce rules

[river thorn]

I don't think it's going to make that many people leave the game, and if they do they will most likely just end up coming back to the game. I think it will change how people use voice and 3rd party chats. I do sincerely hope the team allows it so servers can decide for themselves if they want to keep global.

[lament finch]

I mean I know a good chunk of people who went straight back to legacy after learning about how the new grouping system works because its kinda crap. Overall though these should really be server options not something enforced over the entire game, especially if its something that was previously available

[edgy harbor]

@round juniper English please

[spiral ravine]

global chat, group chat, and old grouping, these functions are taken off official servers for a reason, for now devs focus is adding more mechanics and more creatures, maybe in the future they'll give private servers that option to turn on global chat, maybe never, and you'll have to wait for modding

[round juniper]

@cyan flame pardon me. copied from the wrong window (translator)
played for many hours ... I know all this, but ... it's ineffective. I run away in the bushes, it's impossible to run away. Possibly all because of hunger. I very rarely see mobs, and when I see them it is just like a divine light. That is why everyone is so aggressive. I'm just tired of surviving alone, without the ability to hunt a strong opponent, in a group. Just like in Legacy .. Even if I grow up to be an adult, it doesn't make much difference. I can run away (if playing as Utah), but it's boring and I end up starving to death.

[spiral ravine]

honestly i don't know how you can feel lonely, the map has 100 ppl, and it's really really small, smaller than thenyaw

just go to the popular spots and there's constant action

[cyan flame]

Generally also where you die if you're not fully grown and with your own army :p

[lament finch]

I just don't particularly like when game developers remove features that were apart of a game for YEARS and features that were frequently used and liked, for no particular reason other than "they felt like it". At the very least servers should have options to implement these things again

[spiral ravine]

it's not they felt like it, it's the game is meant to be a hardcore survival game, imagine you can communicate with the whole server, that takes away immersion and promotes meta gaming

[cyan flame]

True enough, but there are ways around it a little at least, and you are bound to meet somewhat friendly players at least every now and then. After all, with local chat only, you should be somewhat encouraged to make friends with the only people you can actually talk to. But maybe that's just how I see things.

[spiral ravine]

and yes private servers probably will get the option to turn on global chat

[lament finch]

Which is why official servers exist, but the whole point of an unofficial server is that it's not ran by the developers and therefore doesn't need to be played exactly like the devs want. Hence why I think it should be added back in as an unofficial option

I'm hoping they add the option back soon, since hte isle devs are notoriously bad at listening to feedback and re-adding features they took out

[cyan flame]

The problem with that is, it's unofficial servers. That does not hold for them. Official servers, absolutely, that's the intended experience. But unofficials are not, so enforcing the same "rules" for them is kind of.. against the idea. As well as contradictory to what they've otherwise stated when it comes to server options.

[spiral ravine]

there will be servers for casuals, but it's not devs priority rn to customize servers

[river thorn]

The beautiful thing about legacy is that each server can choose it's own level of immersion. I think it's a very unique and positive quality to have in a simulation game.

[spiral ravine]

this game is a lot like dayz, they even said they want it to be like dayz, and if you played dayz you know there are a huge variety of servers, but official dayz servers retain the pure survival hardcore feeling the best

[river thorn]

servers range from super casual to textbook realism...and players have the option to choose what level

[spiral ravine]

i agree, servers should be able to customize, it's good for the game

[lament finch]

Honestly I feel like it should be a priority, the vast majority of the playerbase is often found on unofficial servers and not officials. If the devs really want to keep their game running they need to stop removing features people liked and getting rid of player options

[round juniper]

@cyan flame Is that possible. maybe meet someone)) But it's just a game. and I would like to be sure, logging into the server, that I will once again just spend an hour two or three in empty space.

[cyan flame]

Just keep trying. You'll find people eventually. There are good and bad spots to go to as well.

[spiral ravine]

@obsidian pelican that's not true

they said they have no plan to bring the game to consoles

[ruby cipher]

My self and a lot of people want global back period. It’s an important way for admins to be able to communicate to people who have questions, if anyone breaks a rule. Also need global so they can continue with events, and just overall to be able to socialize when your trying to grow a Dino

I get lonely and I’m just tired of going all over the map trying to find someone honestly

[rich owl]

I don't really agree on adding it back to all servers but if u wanna private host a server sure, but in general no

[ruby cipher]

Official servers can have it off that’s fine but the server I play on, want it back! Literally hard to try and stop rule breakers without it. Don’t want global? Play on official servers. Most of us want global back period

[wet jetty]

You can literally hide it also in legacy, just choose local and not global and all messages hide

Exactly

[ruby cipher]

Yup

[wet jetty]

And tadaa, that's how you don't need to watch that chat

[ruby cipher]

Or have it where the server owners can enable it or disable it

Simple as that.

[wet jetty]

Why are people making it such a big problem when there is so simple solution

[urban flax]

Hiding it isn't a solution, I think devs have completely removed global for now to save the time of making it an option

[wet jetty]

seems like it lol

[ruby cipher]

But nope devs don’t want to and they want to just force everyone to play like how it should be but I loved the isle when it had global. Easier to try and find others to play with but also being able to talk to people

[wet jetty]

Exactly

I have been playing like 3 hours this morning and found oly 2 players, even I tried to listen them pressing 1

[ruby cipher]

And if the devs cared, they would listen and bring us global back. Players love when devs listen to feedback

[urban flax]

You're not going to get random nest invites since nests will be in the spawning menu

Have you seen that there's an option to select nests in the spawn menu in evrima?

[wet jetty]

it's kidna useful actually

when you wanna egg but your messages drowns into global

[urban flax]

It's better than getting nest invites mid-game...

[wet jetty]

and everyone just ignores u :(

yep

[ruby cipher]

Other then the nesting part, global in general needs to come back 😫

[cyan flame]

Oop, pressed wrong button. There goes my adult rex... :p

[urban flax]

Exactly

[cyan flame]

I really hope they get a better in game system for nesting.

[lament finch]

the problem with this is that it was already set so officials had no global chat but unofficials did, and it would be incredibly easy to make it a server option (and I say this as someone who works in game development) so they just, took it out without an option for no reason but to force people to play how they want

[lament finch]

Same, I'm so tired of the isle devs trying to get everyone to play a specific way whether they're on official servers or not

[cyan flame]

For now, work with your community to find ways around it. It's probably the best that can be done.

[ruby cipher]

Well it’s hard to work around it when on our server, rule breakers are rule breaking and the admins can’t talk to them in global 🙃

[cyan flame]

Kick/Ban whoever is breaking the rules? That should not be an issue if you have proper admin tools, which you've been promised I'm pretty sure, if not now then very soon at least (UI overhaul?). Announcements are a thing still? And I would recommend working on "whitelisting" your community, that would be the best way to fix rulebreaks and issues in general honestly.

[ruby cipher]

The admins don’t want to just kick a person, they hand out strikes and stuff but obviously you are okay with the devs forcing everyone to play how they want to play but I don’t want that. I want global back.

[cyan flame]

At what point did I say I was okay with it? Cause I'm pretty sure I've argued that global should be an option for unofficial servers. I'm just saying, it's not the end of the world, there are ways to handle it if you are willing to work around stuff and change your approach and all.

[ruby cipher]

Okay but it’s easier with global. I used to be able to have chill convos with people and admins. It made it better when most of the time we just sit and do nothing. All the devs have to do is make it so they can turn it on and off.

[cyan flame]

I get it. And I agree that it should be a server option, like so many other things. But if it's not, I'm just suggesting ways to work with what we get, and do the best of the situation until it changes or mods becomes a thing.

And hopefully gameplay soon becomes good enough that sitting around and chatting is not very appealing

@drifting kettle Herds of different species are not supposed to talk with each other. They're not friends, they're.. slightly more tolerable neighbours than carnivores.

I know, but they've said global can be modded in, is why I mentioned it.

Be that as it may, that's what they've said for now, so keep it in mind. And unless that changes, then the communities will have to figure out other ways to make things work and allow people to be social.

[ruby cipher]

And keep in mind, not everyone likes talking in vcs so global and group is good to have

[cyan flame]

I think at least some mods/others have claimed it, not sure though. Could just be other players. But we know that for now the chat is gone and not coming back.

[cyan flame]

I know. I don't talk in VC myself. But if you guys got a discord, you can probably have channels to represent global at least, and possibly a few for different groups if needed.

[ruby cipher]

I’ll just keep telling them to add it back. Not hard to listen to their players needs

And having to tab out that’s annoying as is

[ancient monolith]

Yeah but that’s the thing, it’s not the communities job to figure out ways for a game to work. It’s the developers. If a game has overwhelming support for a specific feature (that was already available) to be brought back then the devs should definitely look into it

[spiral ravine]

they looked into it and their conclusion is game is better without it, not saying it's a good decision or not but that's their decision

[ancient monolith]

Well then they’ll change their minds when their game is just as dead as it used to be

[ruby cipher]

Well then they don’t care about their players. Obviously they would rather force us into a way they want us to play 🙃 that’s not good

[cyan flame]

I agree, we shouldn't need third party help for something in the first place. I'm just trying to.. I guess "soften the blow" and help out so people don't just give up because global is gone for now.

[ruby cipher]

The game will be dead sooner either way

[spiral ravine]

that's what modding is for tho, give the community the option to choose their playstyle

[cyan flame]

Possible yes. I just know I've seen a fair few mentions of mods for global here so.

[ancient monolith]

Yeah I get that. I’m just hoping they listen to the crazy amount of feedback everyone is giving and add it back in

[ruby cipher]

Evrima too honestly at this point.

[cyan flame]

I don't know... I'd not bank too much on that one honestly :p

[spiral ravine]

it will be because the devs refuse to add global

[cyan flame]

Legacy will be gutted at some point, it's already dying and will be cut whenever Evrima is in a good enough state.

And the game won't die, not because of lack of global, anymore than it would die if AI got taken out.

[spiral ravine]

you should check out dayz, that game doesn't even support grouping, you have to make arm bands in game

[ruby cipher]

Just saying, devs just want to force us and well they will realize once their game dies and everyone turns to BoB 🙃 which everyone seems to be doing

[spiral ravine]

but there are still dayz servers that have global chat and a grouping system

i know, but im saying that's their vision for the game, dayz but with dinos

[cyan flame]

Trust me on this, you're vastly overestimating how bad people will react. Sure, people will grumble for now, and leave temporarily, but the game has a solid enough playerbase. PoT is even more barebones than Isle legacy, and BoB is.. well.. a living meme of a game.

[ruby cipher]

Least BoB has global, group etc 🙃

[spiral ravine]

and that means no unnecessary features whatsoever, and global chat to them is an unnecessary feature

[ruby cipher]

Maybe but it’s better for the players that want it. You can’t have it in one and not the other. Maybe they should of took it out of legacy in the beginning

[ancient monolith]

Did you see how empty the servers were when evrima was still known as a recode? The only reason people (including me) are playing evrima right now is because of the new dinos. And even at this point I’d rather playlegacy than sit around without global chat

[spiral ravine]

hey in their vision for the game it doesn't involve a global chat, but like i said you'll have to rely on modding

[ancient monolith]

Once people realise how boring the game is without player interaction and get over the exciting new stuff, no one will care

[ruby cipher]

Maybe the devs should of taken into consideration how everyone would react to global being removed before removing it.

[drifting kettle]

Considering reinstalling legacy, the new dinos arent that interesting that i would stick around and not be able to talk to people.
Global made this game more than just survival, i gained a lot of friends through global chat

[cyan flame]

Yeah, I know. Evrima isn't in a good enough state yet, but it hopefully will be soon. I suspect that if they add nesting and diets soon, they might get away with gutting legacy shortly there after. Especially if they add 2-3 more dinos, we got pachy coming, maybe cerato, magy, and possibly beipi. If they can pull in something else, we're pretty set I think.

[ruby cipher]

Agreed with shiny

[spiral ravine]

evrima will have way more mechanics and dinosaur selections than legacy, I don't see it dying, maybe attract a different player base

[ancient monolith]

Maybe. If they keep cutting content that takes the game from a walking simulator to a fun, pvp experience, then maybe we won’t be set

[ruby cipher]

If it wasn’t for global, I wouldn’t of met the people I have met today.

[cyan flame]

Hm, what do you mean?

[spiral ravine]

i find evrima combat ten times more interesting than legacy lol

[ancient monolith]

Basically, this game is currently a walking sim. You kinda just sit around and walk and maybe get into a fight every now and then. Global chat turned that into a much more enjoyable experience by introducing player interaction. You can talk to your opponent before and after fights. Without it, it’s just a barebones simulater

[drifting kettle]

I think people are forgetting that a game has to be enjoyable, yeah its survival and yeah dinos wouldnt "speak" to other species, but its a simulator

[spiral ravine]

that's not true, you can find people everywhere on the map if you go to the right spot, just like legacy

[cyan flame]

Well, that's what diets would be for, and with nesting comes opportunities to hunt the hatchlings, and fight over nesting spots. So that would yield some more interactions. Perks as well probably for while you're growing, to encourage you to be out and about.

[ancient monolith]

Yea but can you interact with them?

[cyan flame]

And yes, hotspots are a thing, for good or ill.. :p

[cyan flame]

To be fair, what people find enjoyable is highly subjective.

[ruby cipher]

I will find others that aren’t my species and I can’t talk to them 🙃

[ancient monolith]

I mean interact as in communicating. I think there’s been a misunderstanding

[urban flax]

Still talking about global chat ?

[cyan flame]

More or less :p

If they're not your species, why are you talking to them? :p

[ruby cipher]

And having to keep moving to find others is annoying.

It’s called being social lmao

It’s not real life it’s a GAME

[cyan flame]

A survival game

They're changing around the roadmap, so we'll see. They might put that in sooner.

[ruby cipher]

For someone who is shy and doesn’t have much in real life friends, I love making friends in game but can’t

[cyan flame]

But survival first and foremost

[ancient monolith]

You talk to other species to have an enjoyable time. It’s a fucking multiplayer game my dude. People want to interact and communicate

[cyan flame]

True enough, not how I see or play the game, but I do get it.

[drifting kettle]

Yeah it is, you can see how enjoyable a majority of this player base found global chat for example

[ruby cipher]

And you can always tab out of global if global isn’t for you

Simple

[cyan flame]

I'm not opposed to global being a thing for unofficial servers, as a server option. Do I have to repeat that? I think the devs should let it be a server option if anything, it makes sense to me.

[ancient monolith]

The game is first and foremost supposed to be enjoyable. Legacy gave you the option of playing it like a pvp survival game, or a glorified chat room. Depending on what you found enjoyable. Evrima does not give you that option. You are forced to play the game in one very specific way. Global literally just gives people opportunity

[urban flax]

That's like adding in a insta-kill button and tell players to not press it if they don't want it

[ruby cipher]

You can tab out of global in legacy 🙃🙃🤷🏼‍♀️ like

[ancient monolith]

No it’s not. That’s a ridiculously stupid comparison

[urban flax]

It's basically the same thing

I doesn't prevent other people from getting an advantage because of it

Does the game really need an incentive to kill anything on sight ?

Players already do it themselves without anything promoting it

[drifting kettle]

Thats purely dependent on the servers rules that you're playing on

[cyan flame]

Perhaps I should clarify that I would like to see incentives to properly focus on your own and your groups/species survival, and treat everyone else accordingly. If they're not in your way, leave them be. If they are in the way, remove them. Not outright "KoS"ing, just.. survival.

[urban flax]

Oh that yes of-course

[cyan flame]

Then I'll hope there might be some server options for said servers. But it is a survival game, and I would like to see such a mindset be prioritized and rewarded.

[urban flax]

But I would also like some lore-friendly (if I may say so) mixpacking
Like dryos or hypsis mixpacking with bigger herbies

[ancient monolith]

Then you’d need a global chat

[drifting kettle]

There are survival servers if thats how you want to play, you can roleplay

[urban flax]

Or pteras mixpacking with some big carnis to hunt for them (might sound like griefing but crows actually do that)

[cyan flame]

Not the biggest fan of mixherding, but I suppose as long as it doesn't lead to imbalance it's fine. Dryos are cute to keep around. And I guess a smaller carnivore could scavenge from big ones.

[urban flax]

Not really

Calls are enough to interact between species

[ancient monolith]

‘Oh I don’t want species talking to other species, but I’d like to mix pack but not be able to communicate with them’

[barren zephyr]

Global is still stupid

Interspecies communication just does not happen most of the time irl

[cyan flame]

Hence why I said server options for unofficial ones. But officials and main mechanic should be the horror survival game it's meant to be.

[barren zephyr]

very few, if any, can pull it off

[cyan flame]

You can mixpack/herd without chat communication yes. Not an issue at all.

[barren zephyr]

yes

Most herbivores can get along fine

[urban flax]

Precisely

[barren zephyr]

A person who has never played this thing called legacy

No. Legacy is the past. Evrima is the present and future.

I honestly am not bothered by global being deleted

Yeah, not bothered either by it

[cyan flame]

@barren zephyr There might be servers that are against "KoS"ing, and that's fine by me, what I want are mechanics that aim to improve the focus on survival, on the value of your life over others, and so on. More or less at least.

[ancient monolith]

Yeah I’m done with this discussion, you guys are making contradictory points and very stupid arguments. Mixherding is basically impossible without communication. Having global put back in inconveniences nobody. If you don’t like seeing people talk and have fun you can just tab back to local.

[trail tide]

Global as an option has my vote. But always enabled? No thanks, it can be an absolute mess at times. And difficult to deal with without a constant moderation 24/7.

But if a server wants it, let it.

[urban flax]

I managed to mixherd or mixpack with no global, so did a lot of people

Global would make it uncontrollable

Yes, global for unofficials only is the best option imo

But keep it out of officials

[ancient monolith]

You could turn it off in legacy. No one has said always enabled

[trail tide]

Not talkin about Legacy.

[cyan flame]

I can assure you, mixpacking/herding without chat is very much possible. Beyond that, I've alreayd said I agreed with your side more than not. I can personally want something for the game and still want server options so you and others can get what you want as well. That is after all part of what the game itself has stated that it aims for.

[ancient monolith]

Neither were we

[trail tide]

Either way, having it as a server option really gets rid of the debate, as it creates servers with or without it.

[ancient monolith]

That’s exactly the point we are trying to make. Thank you

[trail tide]

👍

Options is the goal, I believe. Which, I am curious to see the communities that pop up around it.

[drifting kettle]

Individual players should have the option to turn it on or off like in legacy, basically.
You dont want it? Turn it off.
You want global? Turn it on.
Ta da

[hollow moat]

@trail tide Why was i losing health when i was100% food, but i did logout on 0 food and logged back in with 100%
is it a glich?

[cyan flame]

Individual servers, right, not players?

[trail tide]

? I don't know, you can try #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧.

[cyan flame]

As in, allowing global on/off?

[hollow moat]

ok

[ancient monolith]

Both. Servers can choose to allow global. And if allowed, players can just tab back to local, just like how it was on legacy

[drifting kettle]

No, like in legacy. I could just not have global on

[cyan flame]

I think so, and I agree. I do find this decision a bit odd, seeing as there are so many other said choices for servers that will also modify the experience enough to make it vastly different from officials intended one.

[trail tide]

The problem with this, is that some servers have to "police" global chat to a certain extent. Some servers simply wont want to deal with it.

[barren zephyr]

Think that's a bug, it happened to TheGamingBeaver also when update 2 came.

[hollow moat]

oh ok

well rip my 100% adult deino then.

[drifting kettle]

That doesn't seem to be an issue with most servers, thats what admins are for and server rules

[cyan flame]

Ah, I was not actually aware that you could hide it yourself as a player. I just meant that it should be on/off for the server, so it's not an advantage for some but something you're missing out on if you don't want it. If I play on a server with it, I'll have it on, if I don't like that, I want to be on a server where it's not a thing.

[hollow moat]

i cant find food because asura 2 is empty..

[cyan flame]

Got it. As long as it's a server option as well, I'm fine with it.

[trail tide]

I mean, the point is to eventually let people play it the way they want to. I expect there to even be cool game mode varieties.

[ancient monolith]

Yeah exactly. That’s all we want. Just the option to have it, and the option to turn it off if you don’t. Literally everybody wins

Make it optional. Everybody wins

[cyan flame]

Sounds promising!

[cyan flame]

I'm fine with that, it makes sense to me!

[trail tide]

Pretty sure a while back Kissen mentioned that people could control which dinos were available eventually. I expect there to maybe be crazy tiny dinosaur army servers or something. Lol. HYPSI WARS.

The great Dryo vs Hypsi war.

Hmm, has there been any word on that choice at all?

Like if it's temporary or permanent?

[cyan flame]

Permanent from what has been said, if it's official, not sure, but that's the general sentiment I believe

[trail tide]

Did a Red Name say it though?

Or is it an assumption?

[cyan flame]

Oh yeah. Also looking forward to era/location specific servers and stuff like that, would be interesting.

[trail tide]

Cause I know there was a comment about Official never having global. But It's been a while since I kept up with the red comments.

[cyan flame]

I can find a bunch of Punch talking about how global detracts from the intended experience, and a blue one saying it's permanently gone.

[trail tide]

The comment I found was referencing the QA stress test. Not sure if it's the game as a whole. D:

[cyan flame]

So, we don't know for now I guess. Unless we get better clarification from a dev on what the future of the chat(s) are going to be.

[trail tide]

Yeah, but that was concerning the Stress Test.

[drifting kettle]

Thats written like theyre talking about the final product

[trail tide]

In the end, we just gotta ask to clarify if it will be a server option in the future or not.

[drifting kettle]

So I'd assume that global is gone for good

[trail tide]

I wont assume anythin'. XD

[cyan flame]

And with that, Epsi has just proven to be the smartest one here :p

[hollow moat]

Is anyone in the asura discord?

where do i ask then?

ah ok

thx

[tulip flame]

Hi, I have a question, there is no more terrestrial AI since the last update ? I never see or heard one of them ?

[flat crypt]

There are still dryo, they're just a lot more sneaky now

they tend to be much much quieter, and will wallow to hide their scent from you

[tulip flame]

Ok but they are some rules with their pop?

[little lake]

Thanks

[spiral ravine]

@tender latch tenonto growth time is 105 minutes, thats 1 hour and 45 minutes

[tender latch]

Waaaait a minute

Eh whatever still shorter

[odd sedge]

If you Keep running even though you are out of stam... then what's the point of stam?

[tawny juniper]

How does pt running taeoff work...?

[urban flax]

It doesn't work

[tawny juniper]

AH

Because I have been trying to do it and every time I just don't take off and it just burns my stam

[urban flax]

Just use standing takeoff

[crude girder]

It's pretty tricky to get the hang of, and requires a fair bit of space

[south patio]

@inner hound thanks for the choccy milk

[inner hound]

[ionic arch]

Seiza the trailer is awesome

[languid axle]

@urban flax why dont you like mask toggle?

[ionic arch]

and it's would also be balanced for the velo

[ionic arch]

he disagree with every idea

so he mostly don't care about other people suggestion

[languid axle]

so it would seem

i like mask toggle idea if i want blood effect always then i could have that 🙂

as its only purely cosmetic nothing gamebreaking about it

[ionic arch]

it is great but will other people see the blood mark if you toggle off? you should add that

[swift dew]

explain how a velo, which is quite a big lighter than a troodon, with pretty much the exact same build. would win 1 on 1

[languid axle]

so how it would work is it would work like normal for everyone else so only see when eaten but for you it would always be on @harsh yoke that way people could still see if you have just eaten or not

[swift dew]

sure I could see it happening sometimes, but definitly not most of the time

[ionic arch]

more bite force

[abstract gust]

For me the "mask" thing is just another cosmetic idea that's going to be buried. Now is definitely not the time for suggesting cosmetics imo

[ionic arch]

for balance

you really want to see a velo get destroy by a troodon without having the chance to defend itself?

[swift dew]

there is this thing called being conceptually ridicuous

[ionic arch]

I mean yes it'll get weaker from the venom

[abstract gust]

Or, an even crazier concept, wait until they're both released so you actually know what's gonna happen then post in #balance-feedback?

[ionic arch]

k

[swift dew]

and velo will just be able to outrun it, my ideal troodon relies heavily on the cover of night and its venom. so it would be relativly slow. my ideal velo will have no trouble outrunning it

[hybrid matrix]

🤯

[abstract gust]

I want magy to 1v3 rexes and win, yes

@median agate that's for giving feedback, not asking questions

[median agate]

@abstract gust Where i can ask question? I cant find

[languid axle]

@median agate troubleshooting

[abstract gust]

@main field please make sure to post that in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[wintry monolith]

these small thing will need to be fast as fuck

[main field]

it is on an unofficial server, but I wanted to report it anyway in case others find it at that location in an official server... they only accept bug-reports on official servers

[strange wave]

thanks

[warm flame]

it removes the only viable reason for people to be against the removal of global

[swift dew]

not really. in my eyes everything on here would be slower than utah, and use weird abilities to survive.

[strange wave]

this just in from punch

[wintry monolith]

minmi and bepi will swim ofc but ovi i can see faster while most of the others are just small enough to be able to run away in the jungel or burrow

exept proto he might just have a chanse to knock the utah over and then gtfo

[jolly void]

nah proto's too small and light for that

[elder rivet]

small things don't need to be super fast to be viable, they're already really small which makes it easy to hide

[flat crypt]

even if global makes a return I'd still love to see something like that admin suggestion

the more support admins have the better imo

[nova ice]

A chat like that would be nice 👀

[urban flax]

@ionic arch @languid axle Yes I downvote most suggestions, because I upvote only the ones that I feel are relevant or necessary to the game in its actual state. This is what everybody is supposed to do. And I don't like the mask toggle idea because it is not relevant nor necessary in my opinion.

[vestal rune]

@finite valley holding 1 call already does a different noise

[finite valley]

waat

[urban flax]

I'm also against the suggestion of a 5-call "just for sound". More calls is nice, but each one of them needs to have a purpose.

[swift dew]

yeah, that already exists, if you hold the number it does a slightly different call that can be heard from farther.

if a 5 call is added it should be the new group invite call

[mint urchin]

Has the Deino controls/movement been changed? Feel like I'm drifting a bus with how much the back-end just slips around.
Back-end no longer drops when floating at the top of the water now either, makes it look like a really weird and unnatural t-pose position.
(A lot of the changes to their movement now make it feel really robotic and strange...)

[swift dew]

@plucky ridge if the game is boring because it doesn't have global then maybe you should look for a chatroom. your not supposed to be getting your entertainment from chating in a survival horror game

[tawny juniper]

The point isn't because it looks cool the point is to be a detil that you ate recently

[burnt bone]

i literally only played the game because of global chat, if it is not added back in some way I'm quitting. I feel I am not alone with my opinion either

that and dinosaurs

[azure wadi]

@inner hound the bottom right pic is from RDR2 right?

[mint urchin]

Looks like both the pics on the far right are RDR2

[burnt bone]

like my favorite thing to do was be a hypsi and just harass people who went on my rock

[red karma]

Honestly i like the way the chat is now, it reduces the toxicity and it disturbs the mixpacking.

[inner hound]

on the far right are both rdr 2 yes

[azure wadi]

Damn, I thought it was from real life for a second, I love that game

[inner hound]

rdr 2 best game

[burnt bone]

i do understand that removing global chat removes a lot of the toxicity, but it also removed a lot of the community

[azure wadi]

I 100% agree

[finite valley]

but brontosaurus saying "waddup" to t rex isn't what the devs want. it affects the gameplay

[mint urchin]

If a server has good and active staff, Toxicity can be dealt with.
It's not a matter of, "This causes toxicity", but a matter of -Staff that don't bother dealing with it.

[burnt bone]

If you see my post on general feedback, you can see some other ways they could fix the issue of toxicity and mega packs without removing the peaceful herbie groups

[finite valley]

we'll never agree on this, I'm in the hardcore survival camp

[burnt bone]

I understand that may not be the original intentions of the game, but even if there is a megapack of a 1/4 of the server in one area, there is still 3/4 of the server running around in the rest of the map

if you do not want to deal with large herds pack, then avoid the areas people like to group

[finite valley]

everyone partying in one area breaks immersion, but I don't see why there can't be servers where everyone just chills

[burnt bone]

I do agree with this as well, i can understand removing it from official servers but removing it from unofficial servers is basically destroying them

[elder rivet]

If you don't play this game because it's a survival dinosaur game, and instead you play only because of global, then you should play something else

[burnt bone]

I believe some servers should have the realism in it, but others should be allowed to play the game how they want

[tall oasis]

@south kraken you can reduce it in the sound settings

[south kraken]

how so

[elder rivet]

then what is this

[tall oasis]

go to settings and go to sound/volume and turn down SFX

[elder rivet]

I literally only played the game because of global chat

[tall oasis]

why?

[south kraken]

Yeah that would be a great solution, if that didn't also turn down footsteps and dino calls

[tall oasis]

nah it don't, i have it turned down. it only turns down ambience

[burnt bone]

I may have exaggerated there, but my point is that I enjoy dinosaurs and talking with people. Without talking to people its just dinosaurs. also, waiting an hour to grow then get 1 shot by something you couldn't see is not very fun imo

[elder rivet]

this is literally what they said yet you think i'm just understanding it wrong

[worn pumice]

I agree with having a way to communicate with admins especially for help, stuck, etc

but global shouldnt be the only reason u play

[elder rivet]

go to shallow water next time, you can just ask people in the discord where the shallow water spots are, not that difficult

[burnt bone]

i dont mean just by crocs,

[south kraken]

I hate to break it to you, but you're wrong

[elder rivet]

if not by crocs, pay more attention to your surroundings

[burnt bone]

because what is the point in playing a small dino if not to mess with people

[tall oasis]

r u on legacy or evrima??

[south kraken]

evrima

dont tell me...

[elder rivet]

the point is to survive, not to mess with people

[burnt bone]

like hypsi and dryo are never going to be played if the only thing they can do is get 1 shot from a raptor in a bush

[tall oasis]

same and i turned down the sfx and the ambience sound is reduced and i still hear calls perfectly fine

did u try it?

[elder rivet]

you can really easily just hide or better yet, pay attention to your surroundings

and what does being ambushed have to do with global chat being added back?

[burnt bone]

eyes, another thing is that allowing more playstyles of the game will allow for a larger and more diverse community.

[spice thicket]

Hello! I need some help please. When I try to start the game through Steam, an error call "Fatal Error" makes me close the game. How can I fix it?

[south kraken]

It turns both down at the same time. I checked twice

[burnt bone]

thats a question for troubleshooting or bug discussion

[ruby fern]

In my opinion a chat between herbis in LOCAL could be a good idea. if you want to have a social part you could play herbi, stay in herds and talk with fellows between species but for carnis a global chat is a no go

[tall oasis]

hhhmmmm. well it works for me so i don't know why its not working with yours

[spice thicket]

Ok I'm so sorry

[elder rivet]

and what about hiding

or out-maneuvering

if a creature big enough to one-shot you can sneak up on you because of foliage by hiding, a creature as small as you sure as well has a place to hide

[tawny juniper]

Why not for carnis?

[burnt bone]

what I meant by talking about being ambushed there was about how the game is not as fun to me without being with other people. If you do not agree with me then you do not have to. However, a large part of the community likes those "bird bath" servers and removing global chat is destroying those servers and communities.

[burnt bone]

raptors 1 shot hypsis and 3 shot dryos, are faster than hypsis and dryos and have more stam than both. The raptor can also track footprints through the forest. It is extremely difficult to escape without being next to a stego

or another large herbi that can protect you

[ruby fern]

@tawny juniper because different carni-species would use this to hunt together, creating mix-packing. Even if you as Carno allow utahs to be near, the should always know, they could be a meal as well. But with a carni-chat this could be exploited. If its herbi only. People who want to mainly play social would play herbi, decreasing the overall carni population aswell

[tawny juniper]

Herbi chat can be exploited aswell lmao

Herbivores hunt people all the time just for a laugh

And mix packing is when two different species come to together as a pack, It isn't just a carni thing

[burnt bone]

all around, I agree with removing global from official servers and realism servers, but they should have allowed private servers to toggle it if they wish

[ruby fern]

@tawny juniper yes but as carni you can just leave the area. herbis are mend to form herds

[mint urchin]

And then the Stego swings its tail (over your head) and somehow still impales your little Hypsi

[ruby fern]

even if there are 100 herbis in a group you can just leave the area

[burnt bone]

yeah that can happen, but that also makes the game more interesting

[vestal rune]

it's much easier to escape herbis than carnos

[tawny juniper]

Then who's to say carnis aren't meant to form packs...?

[burnt bone]

you have to position correctly to not get stabbed by a stego while not being killed by a raptor

[vestal rune]

carnis are meant to form packs, but mix packing is terrible

[tawny juniper]

If you remove it for one remove it for the other if you add it for one add it for the other

[vestal rune]

this is a public server

[burnt bone]

yeah but the thing is, i have fought stegos as a hypsi because if i latch on right under their tail, they cant swing at me

[vestal rune]

we used to have local chat between different herbi species but iirc it caused issues

should stay the way it is now, at most maybe shit like diablo and trike could talk but even that is kinda ehhhhh

[burnt bone]

i understand for officail servers and realsim it should be like that

but at least allow private servers to toggle it

[vestal rune]

private servers can use rules to alter the game, but imo the devs shouldn't spend time adding extra ways to alter the game, that can be later changed with mods

[mellow maple]

People can still ask for free grows on discord lmao

[ruby fern]

@tawny juniper my point of view is, in a herd you can find linke zebras, bisons gazelles all together traveling. In pack on the other hand are only lions. There is no pack containing lions and hyenas hunting together.

but regardless the chat should be optional

[burnt bone]

imo, devs should, it increases the amount of people they can have in their game and creates a stronger and longer lasting community

[vestal rune]

global chat has ZERO place in this game, it honestly should never have been added, yes it does belong just as a mod

[tawny juniper]

sYou find carnivores working together

JUst because lions and hyenas don't do it doesn't mean it doesn't exist

Coyotes and Badgers for example

[vestal rune]

currently they're working on refining the core gameplay experience, new players joining unofficial servers and getting the wrong idea would make this harder

[ruby fern]

@tawny juniper a badger is omnivore

[vestal rune]

carnis working together is rare, the problem with mix packing is that it fundamentally breaks the game as every carni has weaknesses and strengths

[trim dock]

lmao what do you mean global chat doesnt have any place in the game

[tawny juniper]

Every herbi has weaknesses and strengths

[vestal rune]

it doesn't, it encourages people to chat instead of playing the game

[mint urchin]

Anything is an Omnivore if it's hungry enough

[vestal rune]

so?

[tawny juniper]

So why wouldn't herbi mix packs break the game?

[vestal rune]

give me ONE reason this game needs global chat(a part from admining because they're gonna add fixes for that)

[trim dock]

chatting a bit in a global chat doesnt ruin much

[burnt bone]

yeah herbis can be just as aggro as carnos

[mellow maple]

"Why did you kill me"
"Can I get a grow admin"
"Stop KOSING"
"Body down!"
"X for egg"

None of these belong in the survival horror game. And Global Chat can go bye bye.

[tawny juniper]

I'm not arguing for global chat I'm arguing against it being given exclusive to herbis

[vestal rune]

herbi mix packing is still not the best, but herbis do not have as much of a negative effect on the ecosystem as carnis

[trim dock]

i mean i guess people can be annoying in global chat

[mellow maple]

That's the best part of global chat 100%

seeing the people cry, dying in a survival horror game

[trim dock]

in like different servers with rules complaining about a rulebreak

[mellow maple]

and the toxicity was only funny for so long

[vestal rune]

yes and it also gives the people idea that this is some sort of social game where you all sit by a pond and have a chat. It isn't, and we can see the problems caused by that idea in the amount of people crying about its removal. That's why they've removed global, even for unofficial servers

[mint urchin]

You're really clinging onto that Survival Horror Game tag aren't you Strike 1...

[mellow maple]

Yes ma'am I am

[mint urchin]

Ma'am

[mellow maple]

oh shit, apologies.

Nah, like fr.

[mint urchin]

I get it a lot, 😄

[mellow maple]

It just rolled off the tongue better lmao

^^'

[trim dock]

it do be like that

[burnt bone]

Heres my main reason for a global chat, there are people who enjoy it and are fighting for it. If some people enjoy the game in different ways, then the devs should allow that. it increases the player count and allows for communities that enjoy the game a certain way to keep playing. Thats why we had realism servers and no rules servers in legacy.

[mellow maple]

You should see the story of how I got that first strike tho

[vestal rune]

yes it does, you're literally a perfect example of why it does

[mellow maple]

I definitely brought that upon myself

[icy lion]

keep it civil or end the conversation

[vestal rune]

the devs shouldn't add things JUST because people like it, they're creating a game to what they think it should be, global chat doesn't belong in it

[trim dock]

i mean global chat for me atleast worked well with the old grouping system and nesting but that isnt in evrima so idk

[vestal rune]

that's gonna be totally reworked, trust me any benefit global chat gave will be added in other ways

[mint urchin]

Trying to eat a fish on a riverbank and I'm just yeeting it about the forest....

[elder rivet]

how about you stop being toxic

[burnt bone]

I am not saying a global chat for all servers permanently, just allow unofficial servers to enjoy the game how they please

[trim dock]

yeahhhhh

[elder rivet]

🥱

[mellow maple]

Mkay, well I'm gonna change topic, the power of my word.

[trim dock]

well whats the new topic then

[mint urchin]

Read any good books?

[mellow maple]

Now that injections are no more, good bye pay to play dinos 👋

[trim dock]

omg yes

[elder rivet]

yay

[icy lion]

@barren zephyr how about you take an hour to calm down

[trim dock]

pay to play was dumb in unofficial servers

[mellow maple]

Do articles count?

[trim dock]

too many rexes everywhere cause people would buy them with discord points