general-feedback-discussion

[swift dew]

...
this is literally what I have been saying, leave it how it is now, and then change it later so it can't fight things in its own weight class, at least not alone. I also want carnos to be limited to 3, 4 MAX. so it doesnt just go and get 6 carnos and start taking down stego sized animals left and right

[spiral ravine]

nothing needs a buff or nerf in the game atm, people are just not playing their dino right

[barren zephyr]

But why does it need to be nerfed. It should be able to try to fight things bigger than it, it just won’t do much damage which is how it is rn. It’s hard to kill stegos as carno without loosing members

Most times I fight a stego as a carno pack most people either die or are low on health

It genuinely confuses me when people say utah needs a nerf. it’s completely fine how it is and does extremely well in groups because it’s a pack animal. it’s just difficult to play solo against some of the larger creatures of the island. Doesn’t need a nerf.

i agree, utahs are great as is

[rugged quarry]

Neurotenic Dilo should have the hammerpede frill from Prometheus (Beware looking it up it looks a little peculiar )

[main field]

@barren zephyr My game freezes sometimes when respawning too, but I usually only have to restart the game, not my PC.

[carmine path]

@arctic aurora can’t really do anything about em. No server rules and there is no system to discourage such things

@tall oasis That is assuming dinos can build multiple nests

[tall oasis]

yes

[carmine path]

Have you discovered the problem?

Ima take that as an unfortunate yes

Though I like the idea

[arctic aurora]

Usually griefing is against the rules in every game. I mean I'd like to actually be able to play

[carmine path]

This isn’t griefing

It is mix packing

Which is part of the game and there is no system against it

[strange wave]

there is

its just really hard to counter and moderate, group scent is already a solution to this problem, or just, going to another part of the river

[arctic aurora]

Sitting at the same spot keeping us from being able to get food killing us constantly isn't griefing?

[odd sedge]

Wait wait wait... Zombies?

[still raptor]

he's talking about a mixpack debuff

Though mixpacking will be harder to due with future systems coming in place.

[haughty cliff]

@daring fable 's idea in General-Feedback is one of the best I've seen in awhile and I really hope the devs see it and consider it! It's one of those things that seems like both a "eureka!" moment and common sense in hindsight, like it seems so obvious that it should be a thing. All the "species balance" suggestions I'd seen so far were restrictive, but offering bonuses for playing currently-low-pop dinosaurs is a much, much better idea.

I wanted to add that this is how World of Warcraft handles group balance--when there's not enough tanks, healers or DPS queueing, they offer temporary (automatic) bonuses to the loot/money/xp granted for people signing up as that role, and it enormously worked to fill the gaps. 100% hope the devs see that one and consider it.

[proud saddle]

what are they?

[still raptor]

Diets

Perks, elders

[proud saddle]

oh you mean like, it will be harder to hang around because you need to diversify your food intake?

[still raptor]

Yes

Diets will effect where players are and how they move around the map.

[proud saddle]

didnt think of it like that tbh, pretty cool

[still raptor]

Lets say you're a Carno and you wanna mixpack with a Dilo, you most likely won't because you have separate diets and will be in separate parts of the map.

[glad dirge]

And general playstyle, as dilos will be more of night hunters, so really you'll probably be more food for the dilo unless you passively interact coincidentally ^

[proud saddle]

yeah i guess, im excited to see how much diets change behaviours

[glad dirge]

Hopefully the diversity in diets, perks etc. Will be cranked up to 10 so everyone will be affected

You'll always have mixpackers though, it's inevitable and not preventable

Hopefully the diet systems they add will just make it harder for everyone to stay in the same general area and just mix pack

[proud saddle]

idk why people enjoy it though, whats fun about having a stego or trike do the killing for you? especially if you're already fully grown? surely the fun is in hunting things yourself

[glad dirge]

Well, that pleases some people :/

[proud saddle]

i remember playing in 2017 having hordes of trikes running around killing everything they could find, at least thats gone lol, anyway offtopic i suppose

[carmine path]

No

[urban flax]

Mixpacking isn't always griefing or toxic behavior. For example, I happened as a pack of Utahs trying to fight a big deino to encounter a pack of carnos trying to kill that same big deino. We 2-called them, they 2-called back, we agreed to cooperate to kill the deino.

[proud saddle]

yeah i get you, thats always gonna happen, fighting eachother is a waste of energy when there's so much food infront of you. But, in my case i was killed by a stego hunting deinos for other deinos to eat, so im just salty haha

[urban flax]

Now that's something else

[arctic aurora]

It's not the mix packing. It's the fact that on every server they're keeping deinos from playing. By killing them over and over and/or making it so that they can't go out and get food for risk of getting killed

It's not even a risk tbh it's assured

[proud saddle]

guess thats just a side effect of so few players that are comfortable enough to challenge a stego, and if you're playing alone its almost always going to be a loss for you unless you're very good at the dino you play

[urban flax]

The problem comes from the fact deinos are too easy to kill in some cases. Looking at how people camp rivers, it's almost abuse. On the other hand, everybody wants to kill deinos because they want to be able to drink without being jump-scared and that's understandable.

[proud saddle]

yeah there were some carnos yesterday abusing some transparent hole in the river, watching for deinos and then sprinting across frantically biting downward

which is aided by the fact normal AI is few and far between

[urban flax]

It's not about AI, it's about the fact everybody plays deino

So there's nothing else to eat

[proud saddle]

well in my case there were barely any deinos in the river i was in. Played for 2 hours one day and saw only two others in the whole river

[arctic aurora]

I just logged back in after more than an hour. There's no deinos here except me and they're still standing at the edge of the water with their tails in it waiting

[urban flax]

They're not evenly dispatched
But every time I played as a ptera, 90% of the players I saw were deinos

And the last 10% were pteras or stegos

[arctic aurora]

ptera is a lot of fun

more people should try it

[urban flax]

Now though the trend has started to shift a little towards Utahs and Carnos

[arctic aurora]

eariler there were 3 stegos, 4 raptors, and 4 carnos just keeping us in a water I just want to play the game, go out and use some of the mechanics not sit in a river trying to dodge stego tails 🤷‍♂️

[proud saddle]

honestly ive only seen 3 stegos do that, so you've had bad luck

[arctic aurora]

Happened on every server I've been on lol

[urban flax]

This one is an unexpected stego balance problem
Hopefully will be fixed with tug-of-war and depper rivers

[arctic aurora]

it was fun at first fighting them

[proud saddle]

you on NA or EU?

[arctic aurora]

The flooding/drought mechanic is giong to be a lot of fun

NA

[proud saddle]

ah im EU, maybe its less common idk

[arctic aurora]

Yeah americans can be real dicks online haha

I am an american so I'm allowed to say that 😂

[proud saddle]

haha fair enough

ive not had much luck playing anything other than a ptera.

When i was a carno, i starved twice

got killed by a stego + carno when i was a utah (working together)

[arctic aurora]

how do you starve a carno in a ptara?

[proud saddle]

i mean i starved when i was a carno

[urban flax]

Stego-carno mixpacking is gross

[proud saddle]

they sat inside the uh cavern thing with the shallow water

and just blocked it

[arctic aurora]

oof

[proud saddle]

i still enjoy playing though despite the pain

[arctic aurora]

yeah

[delicate tulip]

@static socket I'm going to assume from that suggestion that you've never heard of copyright law?

[delicate tulip]

@barren zephyr dude you've gotta stop spammin these, we get it

Go to #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 and file a report there

[barren zephyr]

chill man, that was the last one

[carmine path]

You put 5 in here

[paper oriole]

Titanoboa is already planned and you arent supposed to make hollow “add this animal” suggestions

[carmine path]

Idk why there are animal suggestions in general rn

In General like the phrase not the channel

We have 60+ assets that have been confirmed personally i think we should wait a bit before we suggest more

[urban flax]

People don't read when making suggestions in this channel
They don't think
They don't even know what they are doing and what the channel is for
And it's tiring me
It's probably tiring all of us Islecord boomers (Though I'm still quite new here compared to some)

[barren zephyr]

People need to stop just saying do this, do that, or add this Dino or this feature would be good (even though the game is nowhere near a stage it could be put in) like give feedback about stuff for the game relatively soon not stuff that is so far out or they’ve already said no to

Speaking of

@barren zephyr they said they will

Also I’ve noticed a lot of people who put feedback like that are people who don’t pay much attention to the discord where almost all the info is told

Like the people who are not very active like ever kept asking the same questions about the beta over and over cause they don’t look

[urban flax]

Most of them currently are just people who bought the Isle or joined the server just because of the stress test

I hope it will be less of a mess for later updates though

But I guess we can do nothing about it for now... As we have seen, admins have been posting the same message over and over for a few days to explain to people how they're supposed to use the channel, then gave up.

[still raptor]

@rich adder

[urban flax]

I didn't expect the main theme to sound so good with a computer-style main menu

I guess there's no way for it to sound bad tho

Hmmmm
Now that I'm rehearing it it does feel a little odd in fact

[rich adder]

Epic

[delicate tulip]

@still raptor idk why but that gave me Regicide vibes from Destiny the taken king

[opal wagon]

i cant change my texture settings and im not growing?

[delicate tulip]

Also with an overhaul of the ui coming, they could create menu ui that works around that specific score

[hybrid matrix]

this reminds me of smthn

[still raptor]

Music like that is planned for update 4.

[delicate tulip]

@opal wagon are you trying to change them ingame? Also relog to sort that growing glitch

@still raptor good

[opal wagon]

@delicate tulip yea i relogged fixed my textures but still cant grow

[delicate tulip]

Hmmm idk then

[urban flax]

[static niche]

@keen vapor I think punchpacket said they were creating an unstuck command already

[full canopy]

love that you just fall underwater in a cave and can't get out as deino

i drowned

as deino

[urban flax]

It's a feature to prevent deino overpopulation

[keen vapor]

good

[keen vapor]

yeah ofc lol

[odd sedge]

The cave demands the flesh of the crocroaches :)

[urban flax]

Hey according to the Steam page it's "a world designed to kill you" after all

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr yes. A lot

[carmine path]

To the people asking for a queue please just stop. It is already confirmed by the Devs so stop taking away from other suggestions and accept the fact that the Queue System will come at a later date

[hybrid matrix]

@tawny juniper it should be the same for diurnal dinos
where they have a slower hunger/thirst drain at night but a regular one during the day

[tawny juniper]

I was thinking of adding that

But then I decided people wouldn't like it

[hybrid matrix]

whyd u think that?

if u do it for one then u should do it for the other

yeah

[tawny juniper]

My train of thought was that, IF everyone diurnal just sat at night it would make the encounters with nocturnal animals less exciting or cool

I mean I'll add it

[turbid forge]

could also just let it be how it is and wait for the diet system to see what is up

[hybrid matrix]

y would it change anything

well except for having to get up at night

[urban flax]

I think the exact opposite
Don't change hunger drains at all to encourage more interactions between diurnals and nocturnals

[hybrid matrix]

for me its this or that
either normal drain at all times, or slower drain for both types of dinos

[tawny juniper]

Well because then nighttime becomes less of, Going through a dark jungle to find food, And more of sit with your friends until it's over then it would make night less of something to worry about... Maybe it's the same for nocturnal animals though and I'm just not thinking

Potentially this could only be activated if you sleep...? Like there is a logout sleep and a sleep that if done at night or day depending on your species preferred time, Would slow your metabolism

Or maybe that wouldn't work...?

[urban flax]

I don't like being encouraged to sleep, it's such a boring mechanic

[turbid forge]

that would just encourrage afking no?

[hybrid matrix]

or instead of that, if u just sat then it would slow down

[hybrid matrix]

thats kind of wut sleeping is

[urban flax]

Better incentivize players to take risks and try to find food when they aren't in the safest setting

[hybrid matrix]

when this game is finished there will be no safe setting

[turbid forge]

but that leads to boring gameplay

[hybrid matrix]

except it doesnt
ur not forced to sit around all night

[urban flax]

I mean, going to search for food during the night when you're diurnal, and the opposite

[hybrid matrix]

searching for food is never safe

existing in this game comes with a risk

[tawny juniper]

Ofc nocturnal animals are not only functional at night so maybe this is more of an advantage on their part

It's not that they are weak in day it's that they are strong in night

So maybe the whole idea is just not good

[hybrid matrix]

well
technically theyd be weaker during the day than they are at night then

[urban flax]

They lose their main advantage, which is better sight

[tawny juniper]

Not exactly

[carmine path]

This

[hybrid matrix]

but its only an unfair advantage if diurnal dinos dont get a slower drain at night

[urban flax]

They don't need any additionnal debuff though

[hybrid matrix]

yeah i kno

[urban flax]

agree

[hybrid matrix]

yeah so its either normal drain for both, or slower drain for both

[tawny juniper]

They are on the same field as everyone else during day in terms of vision, It's just that at night it's much better therefore their preferred hunting and moving time

[urban flax]

I choose normal drain for both

Even though I'd really like to be able to just sit and stay safe during the night
Because I'm a coward

[hybrid matrix]

im fine with this
just as long as both of them are given the same treatment

[tawny juniper]

I suppose

[hybrid matrix]

just as long as ur not forced to sit around all night

if theres a benefit to doing it then thats fine, but if ur discouraged from not doing it then thats not fine

so if ur encouraged to do it, but u dont HAVE to do it, its fine

dammit

the clown interupted me

[static niche]

"clown"

yeah im sorry bro, im such a clown

[hybrid matrix]

i meant the reaction u 🤡

[static niche]

yeah bro

[hybrid matrix]

i agree that stegos are too confident around water, but there are better ways to fix this than to just yell "BUFF THIS DEBUFF THAT" like a bunch of clowns

[stoic totem]

yea fr

[hybrid matrix]

a better solution would be to allow deinos to drag any dino up to 1.5x their size if the dino is swimming

or a tug-of-war mechanic, where if a deino lunges a stego, it has to fight to drag it into the water

both of those are much better solutions than buffing and debuffing

[static niche]

nah, theres no excuse for a single stego to stand off an entire pack of deinos

thats just fucked up bs

[stoic totem]

I think that they’re working on a more skill-based lunge mechanic

[static niche]

zzzzz

[hybrid matrix]

"pack" means nothing
a pack could be anything from 3 to 50

[static niche]

there were about 6 adult deinos

[hybrid matrix]

actually there is an excuse
its called dont fight a stegosaurus on land if ur a crocodile u clown

[hybrid matrix]

6 deinos can take a single stego

well

it depends on the situation

were u fighting on land?>

[static niche]

in the water lul

[hybrid matrix]

so it was at shore?

[static niche]

sticking his ass out and shit

yeah

theyre also using it to corpse guard

so.

[hybrid matrix]

ive gotten a single stego down to about 75% health with just 2 deinos

so this is very much an issue of skill

[wintry lance]

So can I play this game MacBook Air?

[hybrid matrix]

no

well

maybe

is steam on mac?

[wintry lance]

Yes

[hybrid matrix]

ok so probably

[wintry lance]

But on steam it only says for windows

[hybrid matrix]

well then its only for windows

[wintry lance]

Awwwwwww

[hybrid matrix]

yeah but this just means u get a better computer

well, a better OS

[wintry lance]

Well I guess I will leave

[hybrid matrix]

or just get windows

[wintry lance]

I can’t

[hybrid matrix]

y not

[wintry lance]

To much money

[hybrid matrix]

so save up

[wintry lance]

I can’t use my money

[hybrid matrix]

??? why not

[wintry lance]

No job

[hybrid matrix]

oh

[wintry lance]

 anyways thanks for trying to help

[hybrid matrix]

yw ig

[lilac bolt]

Basically a thing to make cool screenshots

[barren zephyr]

Tbh not really I personally don’t pay attention to most of the bottom ones

[valid zephyr]

I'm sure Bryan would be absolutely thrilled to have to animate 60 different dinosaurs shitting....

Seriously why is that thing suggested daily. Just no.

[wispy cypress]

ikr such a bad suggestion

[paper oriole]

Instant safelog lmao how to encourage combat log 101

[wispy cypress]

ikr lol

[paper oriole]

It can even be abused in hunts

[wispy cypress]

ik

[paper oriole]

So many ways to exploit this

[wispy cypress]

ik

[paper oriole]

Why would somebody want that

[wispy cypress]

idk

bruh

[paper oriole]

Instant safelog would incentivize toxic gameplay

[wispy cypress]

yea

how did you not see the exploitations of instant safeloging coming

[paper oriole]

Asking the devs for scientifically accurate dinos is kinda a lost cause too we'll just have to hope modders bless us with a spino and utah that arent ripped off from JP and an anky that looks like an anky

[tawny juniper]

@vague ginkgo What qualifies afk?

Why would dinos care about cannibalism

Animals cannibalize all the tme

What if you have to go to the bathroom why would you get kicked from the game

[vague ginkgo]

@tawny juniper Afk - away from keyboard, not moving for amount of the time, I doubt and rarely who would have to stay in the bathroom for 20 mins if so you get kicked and saved or you free a slot for a player waiting to play so it's a win/win, mainly because you can leave a select screen open for hours and block access to another players to join the server (some people open more clients to save spot for guildies or so ), or finding a good spot n visiting once a hour to feed it and it's not about the dinos it's about the players, not everyone is available to spend hours a day to grow a dino, so when they can play they'd be at less risk of just getting eaten over and over again (I'm talking from a personal experience I had been eaten 1 day 9 times in row and had to wait few times 5 min to spawn since each spot I got eaten) so I doubt it would have a negative effect on the game and I'm not talking about something serious but like small penalty where you would think twice before just smacking everyone you see

[tawny juniper]

Ok so #1 Cannibalism is real and just because it's inconvenience to people who don't have a lot of time doesn't mean that they should add a feature that means it gives you nothing, and if you're starving why the hell wouldn't you your own species if possible? #2 afk for 20 minutes should not boot you from the game thats absurd, I used the bathroom as an example but there are others

[vague ginkgo]

So if you're not clearly able to play why do you complain about being kicked and allowing different person to play? I honestly can't understand your logic

[wispy cypress]

cannibalisms is needed for some starving animals to exist, or else mass death would happen, (kind not with humans)

[tawny juniper]

What if you have to eat a meal

for 20 minutes

Like you shouldn't get kicked from the game

[wispy cypress]

yea, YOU SHOULD NOT BE KICKED

[tawny juniper]

I understand getting kick after like 30-45 minutes of being afk

[vague ginkgo]

Than you logout, you go to eat, allow other player to play and when you come back you log in again

[tawny juniper]

But if other players are in how do you get back in

[vague ginkgo]

Also timers are random, example it's not something I decide

[tawny juniper]

I'm aware you don't make dev team decision I'm commenting on your ideas

[wispy cypress]

so dumb tbh, how do you expect yourself to get back in?

[tawny juniper]

If you want to rejoin the game do you have to wait for someone else in the server to have to go eat?

lol

[wispy cypress]

ikr... god

[vague ginkgo]

Those are examples "amount of time" randomly though of , you can always suggest 30 min, 1 hour or what you think is the best, my goal /idea is that afk kicker exist not the timer

[tawny juniper]

I know you want an afk kicker

What do you think would be appropriate timer to announce you afk

[vague ginkgo]

such a selfish person, I can't see this conversation getting any better so I'll step down and end it here, have a good night

[wispy cypress]

it would be off putting to play the isle, have to do something, then get kicked JUST because you were afk

[tawny juniper]

Technically according to your wonderful definition of afk you are afk the second you walk away from the keyboard so do you just get kicked the second you walk away

[wispy cypress]

i think so lol

[ionic arch]

It'll definitely come later (I hope so..)

[tawny juniper]

I feel like this conversation was abrubtly stopped by the other party because they couldn't understand the holes I was seeing in their side of the situation

I would be fine with an afk kicker

But only if you went like 40 minutes without and interaction with the computer at all

[wispy cypress]

yea not a soon as you leave the computer

[tawny juniper]

How am I selfish for seeing holes in your ideas here

Not everyone has telepathic mind reading I don't understand your idea unless you explain it

[wispy cypress]

WingPride quit because he couldn't understand, but he should've.

[tawny juniper]

I like the term "couldn't understand" in this context it made me laugh

[wispy cypress]

thx

[tawny juniper]

@vague ginkgo I want to have a conversation with you about the idea, I don't understand the problem here.

Let's communicate out thoughts without mean words being thrown

nvm I am going to eat

I hope I don't get kicked with that 20 min timer

[wispy cypress]

XD this made me laugh too hard

[lapis owl]

does laying down conserve food and water?

[molten tulip]

Really hope they add autowalk, I have wrist issues and having to hold w is physically painful for me to do

[shut breach]

Evirma is unplayable with freind. If you want this to be a party game add a map so you can meet up, or allow it so you can spawn with your freinds.

[barren zephyr]

@lunar marlin why do you keep disliking my list? Is there an error or issue I need to fix?

Auto walk is must add

[tired lance]

@arctic aurora To prevent the mixpacking and griefing, a mix-grouping debuff (being with dinos of another species for too long would cause stress/debuff)

@arctic aurora I also think that the new diet system (with supposedly new foods in exclusive places) will incentivize species to separate

[paper oriole]

the thing with mix packing debuffs is mix packers can simply avoid this by keeping at a safe distance and communicating through discord, then only coming together for combat

so its unfortunately hard to avoid

[tired lance]

It is hard to avoid, but hopefully the debuff will just present an extra obstacle to make it harder

[tired lance]

Also I think the diet system would still trump that, no?

[paper oriole]

diets and the scent clouds should help

[tired lance]

I hope so ❤️

[paper oriole]

i dont think you can truly eliminate unintended mix grouping though but you can make it inconvenient

[barren zephyr]

@tired lance Not sure if your aware, but there is a small flyer confirmed. I'm pretty sure it will be Tupa. The reason for this is that first of all it's Tupa, Tupa is fricking awesome it would be so cool to have an omnivorous flyer! And secondly I don't know much of Primal Carnage but I do know that it is supposed to take place in the same "universe" of sorts as the Isle and either Phoenix Corporation or Apollo Engineering stole genomes from one another, we don't really know who. Anyway Tupa is in PC so 🤞 that we'll see him in the relatively near future! (The image below is just my favorite possible skin design.)

[compact hare]

oh nice pfp there

[paper oriole]

ty it took like a whole hour lol

[tawny juniper]

Is the dinosaur planned because it fricking awesome

[icy lion]

we dont know what it is

[tawny juniper]

What what is

[icy lion]

the small flyer

[tawny juniper]

ok

[paper oriole]

i hope its tupa or something too because another carni flyer would be so bleh when we already have 2 on the roster

[barren zephyr]

It better be!

We shall wait and see.

[tawny juniper]

@tall oasis Why would people agree with your idea when the entire explanation is a video, give ideas on how it would work the damage how much stamina not just "petition to get tail wap"

[tall oasis]

wap

people have just done "petition to get dis dude in the game"

so i did taal w up

[tawny juniper]

Well just because they did it doesn't mean it's good or convincing at all

There's probably a reason the suggestion is only X's

[barren zephyr]

Wdym petition?

[tall oasis]

IDK i saw other people saying petition to get things in the game so i did

[loud oak]

Dimorphodon when?

[jolly void]

never

[tall oasis]

N E V E R

[loud oak]

WhY

[tall oasis]

dimor sucks

[jolly void]

do you know how small it is?

[barren zephyr]

Tupa and Thala before Dimo, then we'll see.

[tall oasis]

gotta go

[loud oak]

nah, sky piranha when?

[tall oasis]

i have more things to grow and die

[paper oriole]

vampire bat dimorphodon

[jolly void]

no

[loud oak]

imagine landing on a rex and trying to drink its blood lol

[paper oriole]

you may die morphodon

[barren zephyr]

Vampire bat Anuro

[jolly void]

i refuse to stay here after that pun

[paper oriole]

as dumb as it might be, considering how short ptera's growth is already dimorph would be a live fast die fast playstyle some people actually like. peronally i still prefer typa or europa if i had to choose

[barren zephyr]

What do you think of Thala?

[vale pawn]

Jehelopterus

[barren zephyr]

Anurognathus

[paper oriole]

thala looks like he'd be a viable size yeah, what niche were you thinking?

[vale pawn]

Jehelopterus is bigger, but im fine with both

[paper oriole]

anuro is so damn puny even a compy wouldnt bother hunting it lol

literal rodent you could keep him in a parakeet cage

[barren zephyr]

Like a hawk kinda niche, much like Harris hawks working in small family units to take down small prey.

[paper oriole]

hmm maybe, though he doesnt really look capable to ripping and tearing at enemies like a hawk, even at corpses

[barren zephyr]

I was also thinking of Anuro more as an ambient AI, I mean when we get birds since this is a Dino Island I think tiny pterosaurs could be cool AI as well.

[paper oriole]

i wouldnt mind it unironically, especially since it would probably have such a short grow the high risk style wouldnt even hurt it that much

i mean i'd definitely play it to be an annoying little bitch and then die instantly if im hit just for fun

if they add prehistoric ambience ai at some point anuro could work, as an actual asset though he'd be pretty useless

[barren zephyr]

Idk much about it in reality but I think it'd be cool if its tatic was to possibly tackle and either swallow whole or peck the hell outta small dinos

[barren zephyr]

Indeed

[paper oriole]

he might be able to eat hypsis that way, anything larger is unlikely. he could maybe be an omnivore flyer

leaving us with
fruit bat tupa
thalas who eats tiny tiers, fruit and small ai
piscivore and scavenger ptera
glass cannon predatory/scavenger quetz

so we have a flyer for each food group

[vale pawn]

🥭

[paper oriole]

i kinda want them to mash quetz and hatz together to make him a bit bulkier

[barren zephyr]

Seems to me, although wdym fruit bat tupa? Just like dietary wise?

[paper oriole]

yeah like tupa munches fruit from trees and shrubs, so just a frugivore in general

[barren zephyr]

O, ok for a second there I thought you were implying a Bat like lifestyle 😅

[paper oriole]

oh, thalas could also steal eggs because why not

[barren zephyr]

Egg eating flyer is just

[paper oriole]

yes

[barren zephyr]

What do you think of Frigatebird Pela? I personally really like the idea but from Ptera concept I think we'll already have that niche filled.

[vestal quiver]

hey, could anyone tell me why i cant look left or right or insert settings for it with my mouse? 😦

[paper oriole]

was that the one wher ehe eats rotten shit and is semi predatory?

[barren zephyr]

Big Seagull

[paper oriole]

because that one was pretty nice

big skua

[vestal quiver]

hello?

[barren zephyr]

Yea! I rlly like that idea, maybe a competitor with Ptera...?

[vestal quiver]

i can look up & down

not left & right tho

[paper oriole]

pelagornis could be more coastal based while ptera is freshwater, pela can drink sea water

of course, nothing would really stop pela from moving inland i suppose

[barren zephyr]

I kinda like Ptera as partially seadwelling but I see what you mean.

[paper oriole]

aside from diet, though with how easy it is to cover the map as a flyer both pela and ptera would be relatively unrestricted

[barren zephyr]

As long as you can drink 👍

[paper oriole]

yeah and it's hard to dehydrate on accident when you can cover so much ground and see so much that is around you

[barren zephyr]

True, it'd be cool if Mangroves had brackish water and that way deinos couldn't live there if they wanted to!

Idk where that came from that was random.

[paper oriole]

same i mean i kinda want mangroves and the coast to be its own biome separate from deino

with things like baryonix and plateosaurus and new additions

[barren zephyr]

Rid of the Deinos!

[barren zephyr]

Maybe Beipi, Austro, and Mini to.

[paper oriole]

maybe possibly a deino elder perk could allow them to live in brackish water but on the regular nah, they are perfectly fine without it

if that biome is balanced partly around the usual absence of deino that perk might not be a good idea actually

[barren zephyr]

Idk why but I wanna see Beipi's occasionally living in freezing regions.

[barren zephyr]

Wdym

[paper oriole]

they do give off penguin vibes

[barren zephyr]

Penguin/Goose/Wolverine

Btw like the new profile @paper oriole

[paper oriole]

Ty drew it las night lol

Yes especially the sauropod cosplayer miragaia

[barren zephyr]

👍

Kentro be my favorite

[paper oriole]

How come people dont want deino tail wap

I hope they do the ceratopsian brawlers justice

[barren zephyr]

Idk man, makes it more realistic and badass.

[paper oriole]

Yeah where people cry that its too easy for trike to defend itself so they turn it in to fodder

Its not like deino tail wap would be op or anything like literally, it and mega should both have it

Also giga bleeds trike effortlessly after trading blows in legacy

Just bite it like 4 times and trot around it while it suffers a certain death

A lot of the deino ‘improvement’ suggestions are people complaining that its bite isnt strong enough (even though its bite isnt supposed to be its killer move) so i guess people often just disregard most deino feedback because of that spam

Which is a shame

Because some of it is good

Water grab, tail wap, lowered weight values for swimming terrestrials

Fracture damage

[wary zenith]

Do we have anything planned for those "ghost hits" (when you get bit from a dinosaur that's nowhere nearby) or just those very bad hitboxes?

[barren zephyr]

We see it with Dilo, but we NEED to be able to tear others in half!

[paper oriole]

These would all help without turning it in to a braindead water rex

[tired lance]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH freakout 😄

[barren zephyr]

⏲️ (I think)

[paper oriole]

Yeah more water and fixed hitbox issues are a given

Hopefully

[tired lance]

This is so exciting

[barren zephyr]

Glad yee found it 👍

[paper oriole]

A lot of the deep water is overpopulated which will be fixed with time, but deeper water in general is kinda needed

[barren zephyr]

I love Tupa, it has so much potential as an ingame species I'm super hopeful we see it!

[paper oriole]

And more fish in the water sources that have almost none

[trim dock]

are fish in the swamps?

oh

rip

[paper oriole]

Barely

[trim dock]

they should be

might increase populations at the swamps

[tired lance]

Same - Ive read a lot about them and theyre super interesting, but they were also one of ym fav mounts in Ark

[paper oriole]

Deino was kinda hyped up as the big scary swamp monster but it cant populate the swamps well due to lack of juvie food

[trim dock]

if there was fish ai pteras could live there which would in turn attract stuff like carno and utah and then maybe some deinos

it would add some life to swamps

[barren zephyr]

I personally have never played Ark, but yea Tupa is just and not sure if you've heard of it but I think Thalassodromeus could be another AWESOME addition to the game!

[trim dock]

how would tupa be different from ptera ingame

like im just curious

[barren zephyr]

Tupa is an omnivore for starts, primarily eating fruits.

[trim dock]

ooh

it could like perch on fruit trees and eat from them like oversized bats

minus being upside down

[tired lance]

Oh that is just...wow 😄 I want it too

[barren zephyr]

Therefor being a Fruitivorous (if that's a thing) flyer

[trim dock]

yeah thats sounds fun

[tired lance]

I love the concept of them being like the larger fruit eating bats

[trim dock]

tupa sounds fun

like imagine them flocking to trees to eat fruits

[tired lance]

Like they would be perfect eating fruits and juvies

[barren zephyr]

[lapis tree]

Wait tupandactylus or tapejara

[barren zephyr]

I think Thala would be cool as a more terrestrial flyer that can tackle prey in groups and maul them with those massive beaks possibly latching onto them like sky utahs.

[tired lance]

I believe what we think of as "Tapejara" has been changed to Tupandactylus because taxonomists cant make up their minds

[lapis tree]

Ok

[barren zephyr]

Tupa, it would make more since because of Primal Carnage.

[lapis tree]

Yeah

[barren zephyr]

and size I think, idk I'm not a pterosaur specialist

[tired lance]

Ooo yeah - I picture it as an omnivore that can grab small dinos and eat fruits - probably even grab small dinos from the sky

[barren zephyr]

Wait was Thala an Omni?

[tired lance]

I just imagine small utahs and dryos etc. having to look up at the sky before going in the open

[barren zephyr]

Indeed

[tired lance]

Ooo idk. I think a lot of the pterosaurs are thought to be piscivores but Im not well read on that :/

[paper oriole]

Thala doesnt look like a piscivore so omnivore would help cover faction ground

[barren zephyr]

I think it was a Pisci in reality, but this is the Isle sooooo

[trim dock]

idk how big tupa is compared to ptera so idk if it could be a juvi eater

[tired lance]

A lot of large seabirds (pelicans, black backed gulls) also eat small animals so I actually dont think its farfetched

[trim dock]

true

[tired lance]

I picture pterosaurs being just as opportunistic

[barren zephyr]

About Ptera size

[lapis tree]

I think tupa is around the same size as ptera

Yeah

[tired lance]

Oooooooooooo 😄

I love that excerpt

[paper oriole]

From pteros site

[trim dock]

i mean ptera and tupa being similar sizes would make it seem either dont have ability to grab juvis but i wouldnt mind it too much

[tired lance]

I hope after update 3 in the ongoing column they show more of the planned additions - but I get it if they just keep the current pipeline for now

(including the Tupa :D)

[trim dock]

hmhmhmh y e s

[barren zephyr]

So Ptera will be a Piscivore/Scavenger
Tupa would be a Fruitivore/Scavenger
and
Thala would be a Predator/Scavenger/Fruitvore

[trim dock]

would also love the nesting system with flying reptiles in game

like being a bird

with scaley babies

i mean im just dreaming at this point cause nesting wont be in for a good bit

[barren zephyr]

Nesting in elevated regions and regurgitating into there youngs faces?

[tired lance]

^ YES >:D

[lapis tree]

What about basalt cliffs

[trim dock]

yeah regurgitation seems the best option for the flying reptiles

since id imagine the babies would stay in the nest most of the time

and being in elevated places would make it hard to get water

as a tiny baby

[barren zephyr]

That would be fun to animate!

[trim dock]

so they could do what some birds do and just vomit into their mouth

filling up both hunger and water while draining both from the parents a bit

[barren zephyr]

👍

[paper oriole]

Tapejara and tupandactylus are two very different pteros, size wise at least. Tapejara is utterly puny while tupandactylus is around ptera's size

A lot of people already want it as a frugivore (tupa not tap)

[barren zephyr]

I think Nyctosaurus is pretty cool

they're like flying sailboats

[paper oriole]

Isnt that the dude with the huge ass skewers on his head

[barren zephyr]

Yes

I'm pretty sure they had skin between that crest too

like this boye

[trim dock]

the sailboat bird

[verbal acorn]

How would he turn his head with all that lateral stability induced by the sail? If he did turn his head in flight, I’d think he yaw like a son of a bitch, if not just fall out of the sky with a broken neck.

[rugged quarry]

Lemme get that fuggin uhhhhh white bellbird audio for some para calls

https://youtu.be/dvK-DujvpSY

Deepened of course so it’s less shrill and sounds like it’s coming from a bigger animal

[paper oriole]

Elder rex (rex in general) is also kinda awkwardly skinny

[warm flame]

its feet are also really flat and the back has some weird ridges on it

[golden iron]

I hated global chat. It gives people opportunity to be toxic and is so unrealistic to be able to talk to people you don’t share a species with, and who are also on the other side of the map.

[jovial otter]

Dunno if someone has said, frugivore is a thing!

[warm flame]

on legacy, I'd only play on the official servers because I hated global chat, it just ruined the game for me, still does

[paper oriole]

Imo it should just be a server option like it used to be

The salt ridden global chat was the only good part of some of the worst servers like IoFT and it doesn't harm deathmatch servers

[warm flame]

I would agree with it being a server option but I think that it should be added when evrima is given sandbox

[paper oriole]

Fair enough

I agree it can harm the immersive survival aspect but theres no real reason sandbox/deathmatch couldnt have it

So if they rolled out the option when sandbox came itd be neat

[barren zephyr]

]

[trail tide]

I saw the feedback about removing the count down timer on the settings menu. It's there because people abuse the foliage and graphical options. When swapping, sometimes foliage and trees have to re-load in, and before when it was an option, people would do that, and quickly jump out of menu, to see who or what was around them.

Tis why it's there. To prevent that.

[urban flax]

I can't agree with the body count limit. In most cases, it would lead to just dinos chilling with a body suddendly lose their food, and will make scavenging unviable.
Same for AI, this is not legacy, AI is there to make the world believable. They already have a stasis status when there's no player nearby so there's less server charge

[trail tide]

I can understand a timer on a body, where if it remains untouched with for a certain amount of time, it fades.

But a hard coded removal of a body depending on count sounds like it would backfire horribly. With the sheer amount of death that goes on.

[urban flax]

Compies are the best way to remove old bodies
Thankfully that's what the devs have planned already

[trail tide]

Yep.

[paper oriole]

not sure how thats feedback lmao

thats just somebody doing something in the game, thats like writing feedback that you got KOSed

[odd sedge]

Juvi Utah is an apex predator right now, I have to admit that

[languid axle]

@barren zephyr try clicking hide empty servers see if that works 🙂

[barren zephyr]

thank you, that umm fixed the issue 🙂

[languid axle]

your most welcome 🙂

[barren zephyr]

just a suggestion under the control section under settings, can you guys add secondary key binds? i use right click to move forward, but i would like W to still be a key bind to move forward. in legacy there was options for secondary key binds.

[urban flax]

For now you can use a third-party app called X-Mouse Button control I'm personally using for many games, allows do to pretty much anything with mouse buttons

[languid axle]

@terse jay change from evrima to QA Branch

[trail tide]

Just gunna pop this here as I do a bit of preening in the feedback.

Keep in mind that we do have channels for Bugs/Map Issues in #723294838610722847 + #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 . For issues you are having in game, go ahead and check in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 . This feedback channel is for feedback only. You'll probably get more assistance with issues you are experiencing if you use those channels provided. ^^

Basic Questions can be asked in #401464048610312195.

[urban flax]

How many times did you post this already ? Do you feel a little like Sisyphes ?

I've just checked
5 times

[trail tide]

It's posted to help people find the right chats. :) Last post was 4 days ago.

[spiral ravine]

@fierce robin in the future if you sit in a bush and just afk grow you'll be punished and your dino will grow slower and have potential debuffs to its stats, so no that's not true
and official servers turn off global chat for a reason, it's supposed to mimic the most hardcore survival experience, private servers will have the option to keep global chat, global invites etc, you can play on those servers if you like in the future

[trail tide]

Global chat being removed has been stated multiple times as being a server option? I think?

[barren zephyr]

I believe Amarok said it wont be a server option

only for server mods

[trail tide]

Server customization is something they are going for.

News to me then.

[barren zephyr]

I can't remember the exact specifics, had a similar chat in this channel about global.
Something about Amarok (on stream) talking about global's removal

[trail tide]

Global will never be in Official or the Stress test. If I recall.

[barren zephyr]

yeah

that's official

[trail tide]

But for private servers, customization is their focus. So server owners will have maximum control over server settings from what I saw Kissen and them mention.

[barren zephyr]

just have to wait for the admin update, hopefully around update 4

[trail tide]

So makes no sense to not allow them to switch Global on cause...it was literally done for Stress Test servers.

[barren zephyr]

I know

[trail tide]

I wouldn't worry about it.

[barren zephyr]

have to talk to Amarok (more really Punch) about global server options

[urban flax]

I think it's Dondi who said he wanted global to be removed completely from the game ? Maybe he was joking, from what I know of him, he's the kind of guy who says shit with a serious face to annoy people

Because he knows everyone will take him on his word

[trail tide]

I think the reliance on global from private servers will prevent that, lol. You never know.

[urban flax]

Honestly, I don't even care that much about what's going to be a server option or not, because I plan to play only on officials.

And I'm not that worried either since devs seem to be quite consistent in their will to provide mod support

[barren zephyr]

I find global to be terrible. Just mostly full of toxic players

[trail tide]

Modding it is an absolute nightmare.

[barren zephyr]

would be

it's mainly code based and you need a server that could run it

[trail tide]

Is. XD

and was. In current Evrima? People are horrible to each other.

[barren zephyr]

yes

[trail tide]

Gimmie that sweet silence without global pls.

[barren zephyr]

that is what I like about the QA servers

[urban flax]

I hope the game can get new fresh faces once humans are added, I know that many people are waiting to buy this game once humans are released. Nice people hopefully ^^

Wait who am I fooling ? How are people waiting to play humans killing dinosaurs nice people ?

[trail tide]

I've been waiting for humans since.... since....

[barren zephyr]

since a long time

I just want to die by one as a Minmi

that's all I ask

[trail tide]

I think a new grouping thing should be added. Not sure on my ideas for it yet for feedback.

[urban flax]

I'll try to fulfill your dream then 🙂

[trail tide]

Seen some decent ideas in the channel though.

[barren zephyr]

thank you

[urban flax]

What I'm really hyped for are tribals. I'm not that interested in mercs.

[barren zephyr]

what are they like?

[urban flax]

My ideas are decent 😄

[trail tide]

Mey's about introducing a new call seems better. I sometimes use the 2 to tell people I'm not about to attack them lol.

but I dont always wanna join a group.

[barren zephyr]

ah true

[urban flax]

CURRENT GROUPING SYSTEM IS WACKY

ah sry caps

[barren zephyr]

I hope the sound guy (forgot their name) can work on that

will give 'em some purpose

[ashen wasp]

It’d be cool if group invites were only sent after holding down the 2 call for a couple seconds, and holding the friendly/neutral roar key would accept/reject the invite, respectively

[barren zephyr]

yes

[ashen wasp]

Always feel guilty using the threaten call to say “no, thank you”

[barren zephyr]

same

[vital socket]

first day playing got myself stuck on 2 testing servers 😦 guess theres no way to unstuck?

[jolly void]

correct

[earnest gorge]

why are people voting against being able to group up properly? do you not have any friends? Having to find someone on a map with no landmarks sucks, and on top of that, being forced to 2 call and make noise as a baby is just asking for death. Just let me play the game with my friends for gods sake

[fierce robin]

Agreeing with @earnest gorge

[hybrid matrix]

you understand that YOU CAN CHOOSE WHERE YOU SPAWN'

[odd sedge]

☝️

[earnest gorge]

well duh, thats no help when each area is so big. theres literally no reason to just have a normal grouping system

[odd sedge]

Wait huh?

How

[hybrid matrix]

bro u just have no sense of direction

none of the regions are big

theyre all small

its very fucking easy to find ur friends if u try something called COMMUNICATION

[odd sedge]

Doesn't take a masters degree to have a map open next to you either...

[hybrid matrix]

You're right
it takes a Bachelor's

[earnest gorge]

i shouldnt have to use external sources just to find my friends in game. i didnt need to do it in legacy, i dont need to do it in any other dino game, i shouldnt have to do it in Evrima

[odd sedge]

The map is easy to learn

There are certain spots that you can recognize

[hybrid matrix]

maybe the reason u're struggling is bc u havent even TRIED to learn the map

u dont need an external map at all

u can just be a ptera and fly around and learn it THAT way

[earnest gorge]

you cannot open the map in game and look at it, let alone see where you are on it. In order to lean the map, I would have to die over and over to just be able to see it, or play as a ptera, which i dont want to because im not a fan of the easy mode dino.

[hybrid matrix]

OH SO THIS IS YOUR OWN FAULT

and no u DONT HAVE TO DIE OVER AND OVER

U CAN GET AROUND WITHOUT DYING

ALL OF THIS IS BC U CHOOSE TO NOT LEARN THE MAP

and yes

u can open the map in game

and to see where u r in it u gotta copy paste ur coords into the map JUST LIKE WITH LEGACY

how TF is this news

also

[earnest gorge]

how do you open the map in game
?

[odd sedge]

Bruh that's such a lazy excuse

[earnest gorge]

how is it lazy?

i dont want to play the easiest dino in the game and thats lazy? lmaooooo ok

[odd sedge]

I don't know the map because I refuse to play as something that is the best creature to explore and learn

[earnest gorge]

mr caps lock still hasnt told me how to open the map in game

[odd sedge]

So the game must bend my way

Because I don't use the games resources to navigate

[earnest gorge]

what resources?

[hybrid matrix]

im sorry i was typing too slow
please forgive ur royal highness, but now im not telling u

[earnest gorge]

real mature

[hybrid matrix]

u basically told me to hurry up while i was trying to help u

[earnest gorge]

youre using caps lock to yell at me because you disagree

[odd sedge]

Ptera.
You CAN See the map without dying. You CAN learn it.

But no, you want the game to change because you don't want to play a certain creature

[earnest gorge]

there is no in game map

[hybrid matrix]

no im using capslock bc ur an idiot and i dont wanna deal with ur stupidity rn

Please, just nobody tell this person how to get the map

[earnest gorge]

your name is "the great lord" and youre calling me an idiot? lmfao

there is NO IN GAME MAP

[odd sedge]

Same in legacy but you still managed to learn it there

[wary sparrow]

You can easily learn the map if you put a little effort into it

[odd sedge]

So just Do what everyone did in legacy and open a screenshot of the map on your phone

[hybrid matrix]

I am indeed a great lord, thank you for noticing 😁

[earnest gorge]

you seem to be forgetting that the issue wasnt learning the map, it was not being able to group with friends straight away, which I COULD do in legacy

[wary sparrow]

Then adapt

[odd sedge]

☝️

[wary sparrow]

Regional spawning makes finding friends pretty easy

[hybrid matrix]

WELL THE ISSUE NOW IS LEARNING THE FUCKING MAP MAN
THE DEVS ARENT GONNA CHANGE THE WHOLE FUCKIN GAM BC U COULDNT SEE WHERE UR FRIENDS R FROM ACROSS AN ISLAND

[wary sparrow]

A wall of caps has appeared

[earnest gorge]

you going to tell every single person that plays the game to adapt? when its a basic feature that was already in the legacy version of the game and is in literally every other dino game?

[hybrid matrix]

ahhh
ive been dealin with this shit for 20 minutes

[odd sedge]

Well not in this one

[earnest gorge]

theres no reason not to have such a basic feature

[odd sedge]

Deal with it

It's realistic and fun

[earnest gorge]

you dont have to deal with it, leave, no one asked you to come yell at someone just because you dont agree

[wary sparrow]

It really isn’t hard. Either you find a place near a spawn region that all your friends can recognize and meet up at or play something else

[hybrid matrix]

there is a reason
evrima is going for a somewhat more realistic approach (SOMEWHAT)
knowing exactly where someone is across an island AS A DINOSAUR, is not realistic

[golden beacon]

👆

[earnest gorge]

"play something else" this will the be the death of the game. Im allowed to give feedback on the FEEDBACK page dude. And im also not the only one who has suggested it

[hybrid matrix]

ppl like u r lazy af
JUST LEARN THE FUCKING MAP

[earnest gorge]

dont claim realism in a dinosaur game that will have hypos, cannibals etc....

[hasty dagger]

Notice how every time somebody has suggested it, it’s been X’d to hell

[golden beacon]

Well its clear people dont want that

[odd sedge]

And surprise surprise, we are allowed go give our opinion

[hybrid matrix]

u dont read do u
SOMEWHAT IS A WORD THAT WAS USED U ILLITERATE PIECE OF BACON

[earnest gorge]

because this discord is full of people that suck up to the devs and never disagree with anything they do ever lmao

[odd sedge]

How

Did you See the backlash on the models?

And stuff?

Like how

[silver blaze]

Yes

[hasty dagger]

Or... people appreciate the change and like exploring the map and traversing to new landmarks instead of complaining about it because they’re to lazy to learn it

[hybrid matrix]

yeees exaaaaAAAaactly
uh-hu thats it
👍 😒 👍

[wary sparrow]

It is valid since the isle is going for a more hardcore experience. If you don’t like Challenge my best advise is to play a different Dino game. There probably will be a map added anyway (probably for humans only though) but that will take a while and until then you can A) learn and adapt or B) switch to a different game until a map is added

[silver blaze]

The grouping system right now is shit got playing with friends I really hope they change it is just inconvenient

[odd sedge]

Nah

[golden beacon]

People too lazy just to go to their friends and 2 call lol

[silver blaze]

The people in this discord want it I can assure you many people think it's a shit grouping system

[earnest gorge]

Ive been trying to get friends into the game, but they cant even find me to get in a group. This kinda stuff will ruin the game. Theres a reason why legacy still has more people playing it.

[odd sedge]

Nah

[hybrid matrix]

im fine with it
its just the 2calling 3calling nonsense

[golden beacon]

Well its not gonna change anytime soon

[hasty dagger]

Just spawn in the same place

[golden beacon]

👆

[odd sedge]

☝️

[earnest gorge]

and what if youre not all spawning together?

[odd sedge]

Your bad

[hybrid matrix]

THEN FUCKIN SPAWN TOGETHER

[golden beacon]

That's your problem

[wary sparrow]

The only problem with the current group system is that every 2 call is an invite and there is no option to 2 call without inviting

[earnest gorge]

am i supposed to kill off my dinos every time i bring a new person to the game?

[hybrid matrix]

u just admitted that htis is ur problem

[golden beacon]

True

[hasty dagger]

Or just travel to a spawn lmao

[wary sparrow]

Go meet up at a landmark then it really isn’t difficult

[silver blaze]

There is zero point arguing here though because it's full of braindead people who cant have an argument and try to see where the other side is coming from it's like talking to a wall

[earnest gorge]

there are no landmarks

this is why its been suggested a million times for them to add more landmarks to the map

[hasty dagger]

That’s your problem then, places almost instantly had names on the stress test

[compact hare]

there are landmarks... now there are

[earnest gorge]

names dont make landmarks

[odd sedge]

Calling people braindead because they disagree with you is such a bad argument

[hybrid matrix]

@silver blaze this is who ur siding with

[cyan flame]

@earnest gorge Nesting will help with getting friends to you in the future, regional spawning works for now. Meet up with people in a spawn point. There are a bunch of ways. I doubt we'll get the ability to group up across the map again, and even if we did, we won't see nametags, so you'll still not find your friends from that far.

[earnest gorge]

you cant see a name across the map lol

[wary sparrow]

Pocket pool, arch falls, south east swamp, the shallow river and many more like to disagree. Just because YOU don’t look for landmarks doesn’t mean that there aren’t any

[hasty dagger]

^

[silver blaze]

Whatever you guys think I can assure you most people find this system inconvenient and an annoyance and it better be an option for it to be different on non official servers

[golden beacon]

You shouldn't be able too it can also lead to random group invites and baiting people to you to eat them

[earnest gorge]

nesting will help a lot, but unfortunatly that seems to be really far away with how slow the updates are

[odd sedge]

And we are back at the map discussion

[cyan flame]

Just travel the map, learn the compass, look up the maps people have done, and you'll figure it out pretty soon I'm sure. It's viable to learn the map, you can always follow the rivers otherwise.

[hybrid matrix]

the only change needed is the calling nonsense

[silver blaze]

And why is that bad point why should you have to use something outside of the game to find your friends in game

[odd sedge]

Some people want everything handfed to them, like knowing the map

[hasty dagger]

The fact that every suggestion that majorly changes it gets X’d would like to disagree

[compact hare]

do you want landmarks ? bcuz I have pretty much screenshot of all of them

[hybrid matrix]

did u read my answer to them?

[cyan flame]

Fair enough. Until then, there are ways around. You can plan to pick up your friends near a spawn if you have an idea of the general spawn area. Maybe try it out with your friends as dryo or ptera first, they're also good options for learning the map in general.

[earnest gorge]

exactly Ash, I people shouldnt have to use external sources

[golden beacon]

It seems like these guys dont want a realistic dino game

[odd sedge]

THEN USE PTERA

[hybrid matrix]

@silver blaze maybe this will help u understand better

[wary sparrow]

You can learn the map without external sources if you want to. It‘s just easier with it

[earnest gorge]

its not meant to be realistic. Its a horror survival, not a dino sim.

[hybrid matrix]

u just proved that a game can do 2 things 👍

[silver blaze]

You know there is people who play the game not in or not active in this discord

[odd sedge]

Well too Bad for them

[golden beacon]

It is supposed to be semi realistic if you want a game were it tells you where to go get path of titans

[odd sedge]

Their voices won't be heard then

[wary sparrow]

Then they can come into the discord and give feedback. If not they can give feedback on steam

[hasty dagger]

It’s just sounding like Becc doesn’t enjoy what the future of The Isle is going to be. From what I understand you want a more rpg type thing, best bet is PoT

[golden beacon]

Exactly

[earnest gorge]

PoT sucks. the models, the sounds, the map. no thanks

[golden beacon]

Then appreciate what you have here

[earnest gorge]

i literally just want a grouping system, but apparently im not allowed to dislike something

[hybrid matrix]

THEN PLAY AS A FUCKING PTERA U LAZY LOAF OF PUMPERNICKEL BREAD (pumpernickel translates to fart goblin btw 😁)

[hasty dagger]

We have a grouping system

[golden beacon]

Bruh you had a problem with us Xing it

[compact hare]

...

[golden beacon]

Just because you couldn't find your friends

[earnest gorge]

it doesnt hurt you for it to be in the game

all it does it make life easier for people who actually have friends

if you dont want it it doesnt even affect you at all

[hybrid matrix]

yeah and it doesnt hurt you to play as a pteranodon and LEARN. THE. FUCKING. MAP

[golden beacon]

Random invites this is evrima not legacy

[earnest gorge]

not every single person i bring to the game is going to want to play ptera

[hasty dagger]

No, it doesn’t hurt but it doesn’t fit the game either.

[golden beacon]

Yep

[hybrid matrix]

ok so learn the map as a carno
or a utah

[golden beacon]

Random invitations from people were so annoying

[hasty dagger]

Even Deino is a great way to learn the rivers and their associated landmarks alongside them

[hybrid matrix]

i actually lost a spino that way from a random nest invite when i misclicked

[golden beacon]

This started it all

[golden beacon]

Yep same not a spino tho

[urban flax]

Someone literally suggested using next-gen work-in-progress physics engine in a multiplayer game... Some people don't know how computer resources work.

[azure wadi]

@barren zephyr no. 🙂

[barren zephyr]

Yes

[azure wadi]

No, that just removes mobility options and makes the game like ark dino riding, which sucks

[hybrid matrix]

no 😁

[lucid token]

Mouse Sensitivity battle...

[compact hare]

the mouse goes ⬆️↕️⬆️⬅️➡️↙️↘️⤵️⤴️⤵️🔀↩️ the entire gameplay

[lucid token]

Crank it high enough and I can just spin away from my enemies

[arctic nimbus]

@barren zephyr no 😊

[azure wadi]

Such a polite community

[carmine path]

You should see what they do to poor deino mains

[hasty dagger]

Not poor, just bad

[carmine path]

See what i mean

[hasty dagger]

[azure wadi]

^

[carmine path]

Deino will be fixed after the update hopefully considering his hitbox and collision issues

Poor bastard can’t bite 2in infront of him

[nova anchor]

deinosuchus hitboxes

[carmine path]

Hitboxes

[azure wadi]

@barren zephyr SCAM!?

[carmine path]

The Isle Scam confirmed?

@barren zephyr what is actually wrong?

[barren zephyr]

Couldn’t find any servers so I tried reinstalling and now it says disk write error everytime I try to install it

[azure wadi]

The hell

That’s weird

[carmine path]

#pinned-troubleshooting message

Have you tried looking at these

[azure wadi]

Although jumping to the conclusion that it’s a scam is a bit of a stretch dude

[fleet obsidian]

Hopefully that means they are taking down the qa servers and putting the update on live.

[carmine path]

Nope

[carmine path]

Gotta fix the bugs, fix hitboxes and balance as they see fit after maybe 1-2weeks update will maybe come out

[rugged quarry]

How extensive is the new gore system gonna be? If it goes all the way down to bones I would like to suggest osteophagy for creatures with large enough bite forces as a parallel to grazing for herbs.

[carmine path]

None of us know thus far

[azure wadi]

The devs might not even know yet

[rugged quarry]

Well atleast I can confidently suggest it now

[brave nova]

Today I learned a word. I don't see how osteophagy would be a parallel to grazing though.

[rugged quarry]

Bones would be everywhere as it’s not as accessible and it would only offer little hunger just to stave off starvation, like how grazing was added so you wouldn’t starve trying to find another bush.

I imagine most animals coined as scavengers in the game having some way of getting to the marrow. Like Petras could drop bones from high up like bearded vultures or ceratos could just chew it open like a hyena.

[nova anchor]

marrow could be part of diets

[hybrid matrix]

in that case i hope cera has that diet

[barren zephyr]

thx

[still raptor]

@hollow trail That would impact server performance to the point where it's unplayable.

[dapper fossil]

What's going on with servers today? so many are much emptier than usual and I can't search the others

[barren zephyr]

Herbivores could also eat bones, many species of ungulate do this

[paper oriole]

Herbis can snack on bones and carnis can snack on fruits, both sparingly on either side i think

Hell, ungulates also occasionally eat birds too but idk about letting herbis munch on juvie theropods lmao

[hybrid matrix]

that would just make herbie aggression worse
now dont get me wrong, i like aggro herbies, but to a certain extent, not Liam Neeson herbies

[paper oriole]

Yeah ik people would abuse it lmao

So bones and fruits as traded snacks between the factions is enough

As funny as it would be to eat a merc as a brachi or a baby utah as a trike...

[glass mulch]

I would be perfectly fine with just... herbivores eating plant, carnivores eating flesh, omnivores eating a little bit of both, humans eating canned food and tribals eating... well... everything I guess

Like yeah... realistically most herbivores do just snack on meat sometimes

but... why have it ingame?

It servers very little to no purpose except giving herbivores a less conventional way of playing the game.
So what I would like to be in game would be just a few amount of herbivores an ability to just eat some parts of dead animals, like for example: A protoceratops eating bone marrow from a velociraptor or potentially a dryo eating the eyes of a utahraptor corpse

But make the largest herbivores strict herbivores so that they have no reason to go on huge murder rampages to keep the ecosystem more intact

[barren zephyr]

letting herbivores eat meat in the isle seems very uncanny. just doesn’t fit with the concept of the game.

[glass mulch]

It does kinda get into the horror aspect a bit

imagine a dryo eating a human while they try to get away

seems pretty surreal and scary

[left nacelle]

I don't really see the point of it honestly, it would just encourage people to start hunting as herbivores

[worn pumice]

ah yes i love it when the stego eats the deinos body after a good hunt

lol

[urban flax]

Carnis could already do that

[hasty dagger]

What about carnivorous herbis for strains of herbi strains end up a thing

[left nacelle]

I think seeing a stego (which you would perceive as peaceful) impaling a carnos face with its tail is a lot scarier

[glass mulch]

Yes but it is way scarier with just a regular dryo that t-bags and spams 1 call while they do it

[barren zephyr]

the isle

[worn pumice]

^

[urban flax]

It's not the dryos that are suppposed to fill the horror aspect

[glass mulch]

They are by far the most terrifying thing in the game

[worn pumice]

dryo is not the horror aspect here if u want be dilo utah carno etc

[left nacelle]

That would feel a bit forced imo. Herbi strains likely won't bwe a thing (at lest Hyper herbis won't because it wouldn't work) so making them carnivorous would just feel forced

[swift dew]

especially a dryo with this eye

[urban flax]

Like Dondi said, if everything is scary, then people won't react when the really scary thing appears

[left nacelle]

^^^

[worn pumice]

if everyone is a rex and a trike nothing is scary

[glass mulch]

Bro, dryo has laser eyes

[worn pumice]

the longer u look into its eyes the worse it gets

[barren zephyr]

dryo has telekinesis

[left nacelle]

That's why things like hypsi exist. Seeing a cute creature get ripped to bits/killing people is scarier than something like a carno getting ripped to bits

[glass mulch]

Yeah I know, I saw that stream

[left nacelle]

Making cute things like dryo be capable of eating meat just kinda ruins it imo

[barren zephyr]

I just want to see a group of mercs stalked by a group of dilos or utahs

[glass mulch]

But dryo is still scarier than what ever the fuck they have planned

[worn pumice]

low key dryo could prolly kill a merc

[glass mulch]

Yeah definetally

[left nacelle]

Oh it absolutely can

Dryo is massive, it's like the size of a cow

[glass mulch]

It is a 120kg super fast meme machine

[worn pumice]

yea its basically a cow

just less weight

[glass mulch]

cows are way larger than dryo...

[left nacelle]

I mean visually

Not weight wise

[glass mulch]

You may have been thinking of this big shit

oh nvm

[barren zephyr]

dryo can mess up a human 100%

[glass mulch]

Yeah, dryo is about as long as a cow

[worn pumice]

visually its like a small cow

[left nacelle]

And maybe as tall as a really... small cow lol

[glass mulch]

that is kinda it tho, not as tall

[left nacelle]

More the size of a miniature horse

[worn pumice]

either way it can probably kill a merc

[barren zephyr]

wonder how mercs will survive carnos without powerful weapons? they can’t really run.

[worn pumice]

dilo actually quite big

didnt rly realize it

[barren zephyr]

yea dilo is massive

[left nacelle]

And look at ptera

[glass mulch]

Dilo is potentially larger than that

[worn pumice]

oh yea dilo could be larger

this is just an estimate

ava is also surpringly heavy

for such a small dino

[barren zephyr]

pretty much. stay the hell away from anything you see without the proper tools to kill it

[glass mulch]

Ava is a fatty, also ceratopsians are just generally way more massive than they look from the side

[worn pumice]

oh yea thats tru

their all fat bastards lol

[barren zephyr]

trike

[left nacelle]

Well they're not fat, they're just have really wide bodies lol

[worn pumice]

anky got changed too

much heavier now

[barren zephyr]

good

[worn pumice]

also ik for a fact thats its very wide

just cant see it cuz 2d

[barren zephyr]

Anky will probably have some bullet resistance as well

[left nacelle]

Oh definitely

[barren zephyr]

not gonna do much to it

[worn pumice]

honestly i wouldnt mind deino getting a very small armor mechanic to it

nothing like anky but

[barren zephyr]

It should yea

big alligator

[worn pumice]

most crocs have scutes

[barren zephyr]

Trike should have head damage resistance ofc

[left nacelle]

If it does get armor, it should only really have it on its back, and maybe its face since they have strong skulls

[barren zephyr]

so biting or shooting it in the head won’t do much

[left nacelle]

Pretty sure Dondi said in the past that bullets will do little to Trike's head

[worn pumice]

good

its basically a shield with 2 swords

[barren zephyr]

trike should be a monster in evrima

it’s a trike after all

[worn pumice]

pachy and trike should take much less damage on the head

[left nacelle]

3***

[worn pumice]

3 u say?

oh yea

[left nacelle]

Triceratops lol

[barren zephyr]

little horn on the nose area

[worn pumice]

lol

someone had a model from jake of a trike

it looked pretty good i cant find it tho

[barren zephyr]

damn

[worn pumice]

it looked a lot like the one in the image above

[left nacelle]

This one?

Or maybe this one?

[worn pumice]

the first one is close

[left nacelle]

Dunno if these are by Jake but iirc Jake does Saurian models

[barren zephyr]

not a fan of saurians trike

[left nacelle]

I think it's great. And it's likely the most accurate trike out there

[worn pumice]

def

if only the game would update

lol

[barren zephyr]

scam

[worn pumice]

wait i found it

thi

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[barren zephyr]

didn’t one of the devs say that we wouldn’t like what would come in update 9 or something?

[left nacelle]

AH. Don't like that

[worn pumice]

this one def better tho

[left nacelle]

Maybe you're thinking of what Filipe said about the new roadmap? He said we probably won't like it too much but it's necessary

[barren zephyr]

hm. interesting. wonder why we wouldn’t like it

guess we’ll see

[left nacelle]

Probably because it's more mechanics based rather than new playables every update

[worn pumice]

would be nice to see a trike remodel

[hasty dagger]

^

[worn pumice]

cuz the one we have now is great its only that at the time it was modeled off a sub adult trike

[hasty dagger]

Current trike is too.. round

[barren zephyr]

legacy xd

[left nacelle]

If trike doesn't get a remodel, I hope it at least gets brand new animations. I always looked like it could barely move

[barren zephyr]

it definitely needs a remodel

[worn pumice]

they'll give it new animations dont see why they wouldnt

the trot always looked silly to me tbh

[left nacelle]

Yeah. I'd say the walk and maybe the run are the only okay looking movement animations

[worn pumice]

yea

the run was ok and the walk was fine

also having this kind of trike would be nice

a much bigger head a little more tail

[left nacelle]

Yeah, maybe having its back legs be not super glued to its body would be nice too

[worn pumice]

yea

[glass mulch]

@dusty elbow, easy answer for the first question

1. When they feel that it is ready to release to the public
2. It got scrapped because this update took such a long time and they wanted to make it go quicker

[barren zephyr]

Flashbacks to the legacy trike run animation

[hasty dagger]

I don’t remember beipi ever being part of update 2-

[left nacelle]

Beipiaosaurus was supposed to come in update 2 originally? When was that? I must've completely forgotten about that

[worn pumice]

oh

a long long time ago i believe it was gonna come in update 2-3

[barren zephyr]

if only

[worn pumice]

[dusty elbow]

yeh, that point is invalid when half the public can play a "quality" testing version

[left nacelle]

well either way it's likely coming in the near future

[glass mulch]

Sucho and Beipi were supposed to come along with deinosuchus and ptera in update 3

[barren zephyr]

16 years

[worn pumice]

i mean the QA branch is there

go play it

[barren zephyr]

Sucho would be cool (just kidding worst animal)

[left nacelle]

I... don't think you understand the point of the test

[glass mulch]

There has been talk about putting beipi into update 5 iirc

[worn pumice]

interested in seeing the new roadmap after update 3 releases

[dusty elbow]

Getiing on the QA branch is like waiting in line for a bus ticket in mumbai

[barren zephyr]

Sucho isn't terrible imo

[hasty dagger]

Just use the steam server viewer it takes like 3 minutes

[worn pumice]

i get in a few minutes theres a trick u can use

[left nacelle]

Not really. Use steam to look at playercount, and join as soon as the server isn't full

[worn pumice]

^

[barren zephyr]

I don't have any legacy experience, so from a fresh view Sucho is quite good.

[barren zephyr]

I’m kidding, I’m messing with dalt.

[left nacelle]

I play on the QA branch almost every day and I can get in within 5 minutes

[worn pumice]

yea its not that hard with the steam server method

[barren zephyr]

It’s good at killing everything other than apexes. pretty much. can’t run from them

Oh ok

[worn pumice]

sucho in legacy was like a death sentence and also amazing at the same time

[barren zephyr]

so in retrospect, pseudo apex

[worn pumice]

apexes would destroy u

[barren zephyr]

sadly.

at least you’ll be able to get away from them this time in evrima

[worn pumice]

yea

wonder if they'll allow to dive

or just make it a waiter

[left nacelle]

It'll likely catch fish in shallow water going by the Hope video

So yeah, a wader

[worn pumice]

waiter lol

[left nacelle]

I wonder if we'll get lots more shallow areas for waders to fish in