general-feedback-discussion

[barren zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[devout sun]

I'm gonna cry

this is too funny

[barren zephyr]

Oh god here we go

[jolly void]

Not you.

[carmine path]

Im genuinely in pain

[barren zephyr]

That's actually a real gif of me

[jolly void]

Nope.

[barren zephyr]

the average rex fan vs the average utah enjoyer or something like that?

[barren zephyr]

Based

[urban flax]

My god this is getting out of hand
Why hasn't a mod intervened yet ? Are they laughing too hard ?

[devout sun]

You have to think this man looks like a discord moderator IRL

[jolly void]

Alright i'll start disagreeing without giving any arguments too then

[barren zephyr]

I do

[devout sun]

Figured

[carmine path]

HELP ME!

[barren zephyr]

good. we don’t need mods to ruin this. I like where this is going

[devout sun]

Probably I'm laughing out loud now

[urban flax]

You reap what you sow. Do I need to remind you it was your plan to bring some life into this channel ?

[carmine path]

The deino feedback post was too strong

[barren zephyr]

The only thing that should bee moderated was Pyromaniac getting very aggressive and insulting people

[jolly void]

I don't have enough braincells left to laugh

[barren zephyr]

They're not going to stop genuine feedback discussion that's the point of the channel

[devout sun]

Xyapy is just drooling right now, lost all mental function but needs to express humor somehow

[carmine path]

People are ✅ the post so that’s a plus XD

[carmine path]

Also that’s bullshit it was your idea, i just put it into motion 😇

[barren zephyr]

let’s just stop typing

I think it’s over

maybe

[carmine path]

Salute the fallen soldiers in this long battle

[jolly void]

I need to regain some braincells

[carmine path]

And fuck its gonna continue

[devout sun]

Every message from the man has me loose 15 kg of brain matter

that might sound like a lot

[urban flax]

We're both going to hell then

[devout sun]

andit is

my skull is filled with void now

negative space

[carmine path]

Yeah?

[barren zephyr]

[balmy gust]

100% agreed. I still have hope for when the Diet system is implemented. Maybe herbis need to migrate then, which at least puts an end to overcrowded hotspots

[jolly void]

same

[barren zephyr]

It’s not over

[devout sun]

And so it begins once again

[barren zephyr]

Every time you guys say Deino should be buffed I gain 1kg of muscle mass

Careful now

[jolly void]

So you agree

Good

[barren zephyr]

who said it should be bufffed

[devout sun]

Cool

I did

[barren zephyr]

Deino needs big big nerfs

Silly how they are just invincible

[carmine path]

Look at feedback 😭

[barren zephyr]

why have you started this viper ☹️

[jolly void]

No it doesn't

[carmine path]

I made a post to get the feedback channel alive it worked but at a cost

[devout sun]

Nerf will come in the form of predators, such as spino or allos on land

[barren zephyr]

Needs a water predator that can compete with it then if not a nerf

Yeah fair enough

finally

so we’re done?

yea?

[carmine path]

It will get one in the later updates

[barren zephyr]

Probably not I think Utah needs a buff too

[devout sun]

The sacred message

I hold this dear to me

[barren zephyr]

OH COME ON

[jolly void]

OH HELL NO

[barren zephyr]

Wings possibly so they can char Pteras down

[devout sun]

Yeah trolling for sure

[carmine path]

Fuck

[devout sun]

if you say the words shin

[jolly void]

ok now it's trolling we're good

[devout sun]

your done for

[barren zephyr]

Actually not trolling

[devout sun]

yup there it is

now all of his previous arguments have been invalidated via sarcasm

we won boys

[jolly void]

we did it

[barren zephyr]

LMAO you guys should join up with me as Utahs tonight

[carmine path]

Mission Accomplished

[devout sun]

yeah sure sounds fun what server

[carmine path]

I wouldn’t have the braincells after i left

[barren zephyr]

Had a good time here

[barren zephyr]

Any of the EU ones

[jolly void]

[barren zephyr]

let’s go carno and find him

[jolly void]

lmao

[barren zephyr]

You'd lose

[devout sun]

Good idea

[carmine path]

Yes

[barren zephyr]

[carmine path]

Win*

[barren zephyr]

No I play carno all the time

[devout sun]

just bring a utah with us

then it's an even fight plus carno

[barren zephyr]

I play Utah only forever

[devout sun]

we can't loose my friends

[barren zephyr]

carno beats utah in the plains

[devout sun]

^

pretty hard too actually

[barren zephyr]

Yall never been solo killed by a yellow and black stripe Utah in Legacy on EU officials?

[devout sun]

Legacy

[barren zephyr]

no because who tf plays legacy

[devout sun]

imagine legacy lmao

[barren zephyr]

Back in the day

I only play Evrima now

good

[devout sun]

also carno kinda cucked utah in the long run in legacy from my experience

I played a lot of carno

[barren zephyr]

I do miss alt turn though

[devout sun]

and I either traded a hit or didn't get hit

[barren zephyr]

evrima is alt turn

[devout sun]

it's not alt turn

[barren zephyr]

These were good fights if both were good

[devout sun]

Agreed

[barren zephyr]

It's not

[carmine path]

We literally have a better version of alt turn

[barren zephyr]

evrima literally imbedded alt turn into the code

[devout sun]

👌

[barren zephyr]

evrima turning is literally superior alt turn

Nah it's a different mechanic now in Legacy you could abuse it a lot more

Similar but not the same

[devout sun]

Agreed ^^

it's polished and balanced in evrima

[barren zephyr]

agreeing with shin xd

[devout sun]

Yeah I just lost 2.53850e+11^87 kilograms of brain matter from it

[barren zephyr]

I spit truth a lot of the time tho

[devout sun]

only some arguments

[barren zephyr]

utah should be able to kill rex

[devout sun]

anyway yall wanna get on evrima and play some carno

im bored

[low totem]

would love to if eu8 was on ;-;

[devout sun]

grow time has been shortened right?

[barren zephyr]

I was on eu8 earlier

[devout sun]

if it's still 5 hours for a low tier killer I'll just grow a deino

[low totem]

eu8 not showing up for me

[prime sentinel]

Why are there sweats on the isle

[devout sun]

theres sweats in every game

[barren zephyr]

Because they think the isle is a shooter or something

[devout sun]

I mean it will be

merc teamkill

[barren zephyr]

Satisfying to ruin other people's progress

humans

[devout sun]

merc TDM servers xD

[barren zephyr]

xd

[devout sun]

that might be fun if the gunplay is good actually

[barren zephyr]

let’s hope it is

[devout sun]

imagine The Isle being one of the best shooters

[barren zephyr]

maybe if doind would get real

[willow ore]

guys does anyone know why my models dont have eyes? heres the deino

[devout sun]

That image is so cursed holy mother of god

[prime sentinel]

Wtf

[barren zephyr]

Viper i saw that xd

[carmine path]

What in the fuck is that

[willow ore]

idk why its like that

[barren zephyr]

Realism

Crocs don't have eyes IRL lol

[devout sun]

I'm downloading that and turning it into a meme

[willow ore]

my stego doesnt have eyes either

its so weird and im starting to hate it lmao

[barren zephyr]

Why would a Croc need eyes if it can just go underwater and be invincible

I’m starting to hate the isle

[carmine path]

How are you “starting” to hate it

[devout sun]

Dinosukus.png

got it

[willow ore]

hahaha

[prime sentinel]

What are your settings

[devout sun]

Everyone knows if if you don't hate The Isle you aren't playing it right

[carmine path]

I refuse to believe you are a real person i think its a bot

Programmed in the Anti-Deinosuchus ways

[willow ore]

these are my settings, idk why but whenever i try to switch my textures to high it just switches back to medium

[barren zephyr]

Imagine actually liking the isle though. I don’t know one player that likes the isle

[barren zephyr]

I'll stream some Isle soon

I'm very real

[prime sentinel]

Switch it in the main menu

[willow ore]

i can turn up my settings but it doesnt make that much of a difference but this stupid no eyes thing is pissing me off xd

[devout sun]

I do, but I play Deinosuchus so my opinion doesn't actually matter as it turns out.

[prime sentinel]

Then restart your game

[willow ore]

ah alright ill try that

[barren zephyr]

Funny water trex

[barren zephyr]

Based self aware Deino player

[devout sun]

It's part of the true Deino experience

that and stego PTSD

that's the other thing

[barren zephyr]

Stego 👎

[devout sun]

#AverageDeinoEnjoyer #AverageStegoFan

[prime sentinel]

Crocodiles?

In water?

[devout sun]

alligator

[prime sentinel]

🤯

[barren zephyr]

Interior

crocodile

[willow ore]

bro idk why but even if i switch my textures in the main menu and i go out of it then back in it just switches back to medium

this is so weird

[prime sentinel]

Maybe try through the files

[devout sun]

actually im making that my pfp

gimme a sec

[barren zephyr]

give a sec

this image gives carno players mental breakdowns

[prime sentinel]

Usually named config

[devout sun]

done

[prime sentinel]

[barren zephyr]

*brings 6 carnos

[prime sentinel]

I played carno yesterday, and seeing that picture...

Makes me feel indifferent

[swift dew]

@willow aurora personally I think eventually group limits should be removed entirely, I am for the idea that if you can feed your family you get to keep your family. so if you can feed 20 rexes (goodluck doing that) you get to keep a 20 player rex pack

[flat crypt]

Hmmm rq does anyone have that image with the confirmed full roster for evrima? Got a suggestion I wanna make

[devout sun]

This is totally balanced until it's not anymore

[swift dew]

it would be difficult to balance, but thats how it should idealy should be

[willow aurora]

I personally don’t see a problem with the hard limits, aside from the fact that it will conflict with some servers and their rules. If customizable group limits become a thing, they can simply be edited to be unlimited (ex. a limit of 999 on a server with a max player count of 100). Similarly to BoB’s grouping system, which is completely customizable in the server’s files.

[devout sun]

That's the suggestion is tho

[swift dew]

fair enough

[devout sun]

totally agree

[willow aurora]

That way, servers with pack limits don’t need to go through too many troubles to keep them enforced, then the ones without pack limits can edit a few numbers.

[devout sun]

hard limits are fine, official servers will be the balanced limits, can be changed in server files

[willow aurora]

Mhm, that's what I'm hoping for

@short shell Progression is no longer available to host.

[short shell]

Oh, I see. ty

[willow aurora]

Np!

[swift dew]

the problem with hard group limits is that its just an inconvenience, you can still have a 30 rex pack you just can't see the names of everyone. however, if the game is balanced so that you can't feed everyone in your family if you have too many people, its a group limit without an actual group limit. and you either have to split or starve, or eat each other.

[short shell]

Also, how did some people play as a spinosaurus in a survival server?

[willow aurora]

It’s mostly to discourage packing in unreasonable numbers in an attempt to maintain balance

[willow aurora]

To play as a Spinosaurus, a player’s file must be edited to “inject” them.

However, the player must be presently logged off the server

[short shell]

Ah alright, and what about that new update with the flying dino. I can't find it anywhere, not even in sandbox servers

[willow aurora]

You have to change your game version

Let me see if I can find the GIF that’s been floating around

[tepid gate]

@short shell It's a different branch. If you go to steam, press right mouse button on The isle you can go to properties, choose "betas" and then you have to choose Quality Assurance Branch. The new playables(Deinosuchus and Pteranodon) are available there. Do note it's a QA branch meaning that it's basically a beta of a beta.

[willow aurora]

Thank you Aken XD

I was trying to log onto my computer to remember how to do it

[tepid gate]

Yea it's a rather complicated process to a certain extent. I'd say that the devs should probably start thinking about making Evrima the default iteration of the game now.

Although it could be a somewhat risky move

[willow aurora]

I’d say maybe after the next two updates, there isn’t quite enough content for it to be viable

[tepid gate]

Yea perhaps after the next two updates

[short shell]

Thanks a lot for your help guys / girls ^^

[tepid gate]

You're welcome, Nax

[willow aurora]

Although there should still be the ability to switch back over to Legacy

[tepid gate]

Naturally

[carmine path]

Once we get to elders we should probably make Evrima defualt

That way all the people who like to nest have their update and have been given time to settle into evrima

@daring granite We gonna wait for anky for a bit cause there was no plan to even have him in the updates this early and being that anky and stego are so similar having the differences only be bone break and bleed I would say we hold off on him for awhile considering we already have a dino of the relatively same stature who already poses a massive threat to deinosuchus and other lands carnivores

@jagged marsh elaborate on what you mean I can probably help you

[jagged marsh]

anytime i try to drink it just wallows

[carmine path]

Oh you have to get closer to the water man

If it says drink get like 3ft closer

Then you will be able to

[jagged marsh]

gotdamn im gonna be swimming with the cros

[carmine path]

Don’t be in the water

Your face just needs to be directly above the water

But do be careful for deinos like myself we are always watching

[jagged marsh]

i barely avoided one just a minute ago lol. i heard some water sounds and im like im gonna dip and as soon as i took off the deino lunged out of the water

would not have reacted in time if i didnt preemptively fly lol

[carmine path]

Yeah don’t worry once update 4 comes out all the hype train will go over to shit on utahs to balance it out for deinos anyway

Pachy is gonna be the utah destroyer if it doesn’t get pounced 1st xd

[silver blaze]

@carmine path @odd sedge you guys seem confused at my suggestion could I ask why?

[carmine path]

Herbivore Players will always be a thing and they are in great abundance there is no reason to shorten growth times to entice players to play herbivore

Once the nesting update comes out you are gonna many herbi nesters

There is no point in giving a dino faction a buff for growth

[jolly void]

@silver blaze The fact that herbivores can kill carnivores now is enough for people to play as them, no need for that

[naive echo]

"also herbivores grow faster than carnivores in nature".....elephants take around 20 years to reach full size...lions take 3-5 years so that's not even true

[jolly void]

There are less herbis rn because people want to play as deino and ptera or kill the deinos and pteras, but that'll be over soon

[carmine path]

Well thats and elephant

[naive echo]

Hippos take even longer

25 years

[urban flax]

All of them are much bigger than lions

[carmine path]

I would agree but make a better comparison

[silver blaze]

You picked one specific example so I won't even bother with your half assed reply

[silver blaze]

I'm just saying when more and bigger carnivores come out a lot more people will want to play them than will want to play big herbies

[jolly void]

Not really, anky causing fractures, trike being able to 1v1 a rex, etc will change that

[naive echo]

two examples for herbivores and bears are another carnivore that only take 8-10 years

[manic ibex]

wait for the next update and everyone will be playing pachy, an herbivore

[carmine path]

Exactly

[silver blaze]

It would help with things like cannibalizing and dinos starving I think

[jolly void]

@jagged marsh You just need to put your head deeper, also the wallow doesn't affect that

[silver blaze]

There should just be more herbivores than carnivores

[carmine path]

Everyone is gonna follow the hype train

[carmine path]

Why

Let players be who they wanna be

[silver blaze]

People will get bored of pachy very quickly unless the devs do something special to it

[carmine path]

Not your choice who they play

[jolly void]

Fractures

Also, shorter growth won't help, people play carnis for a reason and that reason won't change

It's either because they're stronger or because they have "more action" (which isn't true, but people believe that)

And to counter that making herbis strong would be enough

[silver blaze]

Its how it is in nature this game is supposed to be realistic and as I mentioned before which help with cannibalism which people complain about so much

[jolly void]

Like my examples, anky being able to fracture and trike being able to 1v1 a rex

[jolly void]

Irl cannibalism happens all the time tho

[silver blaze]

That isn't exclusive to pachy

[jolly void]

Yes, and? It's a small tier with fractures, people like that.

It's also fast, which makes everything even better

So, people will play as it and that's a fact

[silver blaze]

Look you guys think that but i think it would help it's not likely the devs will do well just have to see

[jolly void]

Having short growth times would just make herbis op, too

[silver blaze]

It will really depend on how strong it is not fast people will want gali for that

[silver blaze]

And no it wouldn't be op read my suggestion the number would be changed to be balanced

[jolly void]

It's gonna be strong, that's a fact, also, galli can't cause fractures

[silver blaze]

It could be as little as ten minutes

[jolly void]

The combination is fractures AND being fast, that's what I meant

[silver blaze]

No pachy really won't be that strong do you think this is beasts of bermuda or something it's a bit stronger than utah not stronger than carni or cera

[jolly void]

Oh also, even with the hype for deino and ptera there are tons of stegos and tenos, so there's that

[jolly void]

When did I EVER say that it was stronger than cera?

Also, pachy could probably cause a cera a fracture and just run away, or test it's luck and fight it

[silver blaze]

There just isn't there are a few but like 90 out of 110 will be playing deino ptera utah or carno there is not much stegos and even less tenos

[jolly void]

I literally explained why.

[silver blaze]

You were saying its gonna be strong but weaker than cera is not strong

[jolly void]

.

[jolly void]

Uh yes it is, for a small tier, it is.

[silver blaze]

@barren zephyr haven't you seen many others asking for this too they won't add one

[jolly void]

You're comparing a small tier to a mid tier (Or pseudo-mid)

[glad dirge]

Honestly that's the main reason I play utah more than teno, there's more risk than reward in playing teno because of the carno hunting

[barren zephyr]

If I see one more "add server queues!" suggestion im gonna lose it

[carmine path]

I mean server queues are confirmed

[golden beacon]

Ok well i put down feedback and im talking a load of nonsense the hit boxes are probably fine im just unlucky or its a glitch...

[west agate]

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[glossy tiger]

😱 So wait is stego gonna get a nerf? @west agate

[west agate]

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[urban flax]

Fixing hitboxes may already fix most balance problems...

[west agate]

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[urban flax]

If QA deicded 500N for deino was enough, that's probably because it landed consistently during their tests, without 100+ people on the same server

Luckily, that's precisely for that kind of bugs stress test exists

[cyan flame]

@scenic lintel I think it does regen water when in the water, maybe slower than drinking, but still

[crude gyro]

What do you guys think of a scent system update? Like if a dino can smell another Dino's footsteps and herd scent, realistically they should be able to smell which dino they are. Having different colour scents for different dinos would be more realistic and cool too?

[urban flax]

I see one problem

[west agate]

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[urban flax]

You gotta have 50 different colors

[west agate]

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[urban flax]

And be able to recognize and remember each one of them

And you can't use red, blue, green or orange because they're already used

[crude gyro]

Yeah that's fair enough

[west agate]

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[valid elk]

Dunno why someone put a timer, neither crabs nor squid have been confirmed

[west agate]

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[steady lintel]

you can see the footprints with scent as well its enough to gauge the general size or possible animals you are tracking

[crude gyro]

Yeah true. I guess for now since there's not many dinos in, it might've been okay, but if they're planning on adding 60 back then you're right, wouldn't be pleasant or easy to tell

[steady lintel]

its not like youd unknowingly run into a adult rex

[crude gyro]

Also true haha

[sudden kelp]

@crude gyro In the current roster if you look at the foot print you will easily recognise what dino is it. Dryos have 4 small fingers utahs have 2 carnos have 3 deinos have 5 pteras have 5 small stegos have a completely different looking footprint tenos have 4 very long fingers/claws and hypsi is so small u can easily recognize it

[crude gyro]

You're right. Guess I'm so used to playing Wolfquest I thought it would be a nice edition. But it's good how it is :)

[mellow steppe]

@paper oriole I reposted and edited my suggestion about magy if you wanna check it out

[olive cosmos]

I came here just to say. This is the best server connection simulator I have ever seen. Thank you very much for such a purchase, I do not regret the money and time spent.

[compact hare]

lmao

[olive cosmos]

There are rumors that you can still play as dinosaurs here, but I don't believe in it, I haven't seen one in 4 hours of play

[urban flax]

You know there's a branch not called stress test where you can play as much as you want without needing to try connecting over and over

The point of the stress test is to get servers full

[compact hare]

and cmon its not that hard to log in a stress test server

[olive cosmos]

But they are full all the time and a lot of players, like me, who bought the game cannot play it, because there are not enough servers.

[urban flax]

True, it isn't even that hard

[urban flax]

Then what's your solution ?

[olive cosmos]

Indeed, it is not at all difficult. For three hours I have been pressing the server refresh button trying to play. Out of 4 hours of play, more than three I try to enter the game

I agree. It's not difficult, just long. How to chop wood with a spoon

All in all, I conveyed my anger) Dobby is free

[urban flax]

So you've bought a game, and on top of that, you're given the opportunity to help game development by playing in stress test servers. But you're not forced to, in case you don't want the hassle of going through bugs, unfinished content and all those things.
Or you can be a good person and wait for the actual update.

[wild elbow]

if its not hard then how do you get in servers?

[compact hare]

clicking two times already makes you log in

I usually have success on logging in them by trying 3 times max

[wild elbow]

i have been trying for the past hour, spamming refresh, spam clicking even setting up an auto join but still nothing.

[urban flax]

Try joining servers in the morning

[compact hare]

Refresh untill you see a slot
click two times
done
thats how it works for me
any server

[wild elbow]

ive been trying that but most are 133 / 130

[jolly void]

Do this

[wild elbow]

yea ive been doing that, no luck

maybe i need some NASA internet speed or soemthing

[jolly void]

@old schooner Here, do what the image says if you wanna join a server

[compact hare]

I have a pretty bad internet but still can join them with ease
maybe trying to join at mornings or using other ways
thid might resolve the problem
I hope so

[old schooner]

right, hmmm

whats the stream server browser?

[compact hare]

Or just wait for the update release, which is gonna take some time sadly

[urban flax]

I think we can hope to have it in 2-3 weeks
Yes I'm optimistic

[compact hare]

Very lel

[jolly void]

You click on "steam" at the top left of your screen

[urban flax]

Well stress test will likely last till the end of this week
Then they'll need at least one week to fix the remaining bugs, maybe two depending on how hard to squash they are

[jolly void]

And then "Servers'

[old schooner]

i must be blind, within the server menu?

[jolly void]

No, on steam itself

It's grey instead of white, which might make you not notice it

[wild elbow]

ahh well i give up

[compact hare]

ah rip

have a little bit more of patience and you'll make it

[wild elbow]

lmao ive spent an hour trying

aint got all day, got stuff to do ya know

[compact hare]

At least it seems you dont have some bugs that dont allow you to play the game rn

I see

[wild elbow]

i mean same thing i cant play the game

[old schooner]

hmmm i think i have got it

i Favorited it in game, open steam severe, goto fav tabs. open it an select the auto-retry, join when slot available option, then just wait ?

[swift dew]

"Please be aware that during the test you are likely to encounter bugs, missing or not yet fully functional features, performance issues and limited server availability." that was copied straight from the anouncement of the stress test, that is to be expected

[wild elbow]

i know but 9 eu servers is a little low lmao

[urban flax]

They gotta pay for those servers

[wild elbow]

but yea im not to bothered its just a game at the end of the day. Will just wait until they fix the game.

[wild elbow]

yea i understand that but i know people who own 20 servers on games and thats just one dude.

[old schooner]

how long am i likely to be waiting?

[wild elbow]

3h

average

[old schooner]

really?

[wild elbow]

lmao

its rng

[jolly void]

i mean, i dont have problems with joining a server

[old schooner]

Jesus....

[jolly void]

so if you're lucky maybe minutes lol

[wild elbow]

yea

[old schooner]

not sure im even doing it right so i doubt that

[jolly void]

i usually join servers third try

[urban flax]

There's no average, it's just a matter of luck or choosing the right time to connect

[wild elbow]

also im guessing internet speed helps, but i got pretty good internet and ive been trying for over an hour

[jolly void]

if you're not sure about it, you can always just keep refreshing and then join as soon as you see a slot and hope you manage to get in

[old schooner]

yeah i am doing, keeps booting me back to main menu

[wild elbow]

yea it does

i think the way you set it up is have the alert tell you when the server has room the hit refresh and spam click to join.

[icy lion]

youre trying to join the stress test servers?

[old schooner]

yeah

[icy lion]

whats the game version number on your main menu?

[old schooner]

0.7.72.15

[icy lion]

ah yea, thats just full or crashed servers kicking you then

[wild elbow]

wtf

[icy lion]

swap to the qa branch

[wild elbow]

im on it

[icy lion]

no, youre on evrima

[barren zephyr]

ur not

[jolly void]

huh

[wild elbow]

ima unistall the game

then install it again

[icy lion]

yea its supposed to start a download, weird that it didnt

[near hound]

The being kicked out to main menus when joining has happened to me a few times and I’m definitely not a technical expert when it comes to internet speeds and such; but for me I’ve been able to keep trying for QA servers that have openings. If you’re not too picky about the region, you can click “hide empty servers” and that will bring up all servers for you to pick from.

[wild elbow]

lmao havent played a single min

[old schooner]

does my game need to be open or shutdown when trying to boot from steam server?

[icy lion]

you dont join it with the steam view, you just use it to look at the populations

you need to still click "connect" in the game

[old schooner]

do i not need to refresh before the game lets me connect?

[jolly void]

you just need to refresh until it's not full, after that you just wait for the steam server browser to tell you that the server is not full, then you just connect without refreshing

[old schooner]

ahh

i just got in one anyway 😄

[jolly void]

oh nice

[old schooner]

can i change moouse sen?

[jolly void]

i think so

[paper oriole]

i think it would be nice if server owners had some freedom over the growth times of dinos on their servers, so there could be servers with big fat grow times and ones with normal growth

[oak cave]

^

[urban flax]

@oak cave There will be elders that will achieve exactly what you're looking for in adults

[oak cave]

Yeah, but it doesnt change the grow time of the adults

elders should be REALLY rare.

[urban flax]

They will likely be, since they need to survive a very long time AND follow the right diet

[icy lion]

from the sounds of it, elders will have some pretty specific prerequisites

[urban flax]

Game would be weird if there were mostly juvies around

And growth times won't really change much, apart from making the game more grindy

[oak cave]

Well right, but you don't think its weird with an more adults than babies running around?

[urban flax]

Not at all

Most animals live at least 80% of their lives as adults

[compact hare]

Diets probably will make them rare if you follow your diet like correctly

[paper oriole]

if there end up being a ton of large tier predators running around like in legacy it would be weird but the devs don't want this to happen so it probably won't

[urban flax]

Full adult deinos are already somewhat rare

[oak cave]

Not really...

[paper oriole]

if server owners want it harder to grow apexes they should have freedom to make an 8hr rex into 12hr or something if they wanted to which would also make less rex players join their server too

[urban flax]

And they don't have any predators yet

[paper oriole]

well if you think about it stego is sorta deino's predator rn lol

[oak cave]

With the way the game is going, i've seen more bigger deinos than smaller ones.

[paper oriole]

also juvie utahs are kicking their asses

[urban flax]

Yep, but growth times on officials are fine

If anything, I think growth times for certain playables may have to be reduced once humans are added
But all depends on humans will behave with the ecosystem

[oak cave]

longer grow times = less adult dinos which means those who do become adults, are more important, more fundamental to the game as a whole

Right now it just doesnt feel like that.

But I do appreciate your opinion on it

[paper oriole]

if it's true that good weapons will be rare as well as the ammo for them then it should be fine

humans will be fodder without weapons and still be in danger with them especially from smaller animals

[upper summit]

@oak cave No one is going to play rex if its gonna be longer than it already is in legacy to grow, also seeing adult dinos should be the norm it isn't a kindgergarten

[urban flax]

Yes but you know isle players, thy-ll find a way to kill rexes as a group of mercs using only knives

[oak cave]

I would, and I know plenty others that would. Hence why I made the post lol

[urban flax]

Even if that means they have to be 10 and 9 of them die

[oak cave]

You notice how a big complaint at the moment is "mix-packing" and griefing and all that

[upper summit]

Well you already got 4 X's so good luck with that

[oak cave]

wouldn't happen if adults were more rare

Well again, its the casual player vs the more committed one. Most times, casual will win out.

[urban flax]

How would increasing growth times change anything with mixpacking ?

[oak cave]

Less adult dinos to mix with?

far more risk?

[urban flax]

So..?

[oak cave]

more risk, means less chance people take the risk

[urban flax]

You can still mix with juvies

[upper summit]

Bub they're trolling

[oak cave]

im really not lol

but people who have concerns with mix-packing, arn't referancing the juvies

[upper summit]

Dude no one's gonna spend up to 30 hours to grow a dinosaur

[oak cave]

30 hours is a bit extreme

but you do spend that time in game anyway.

[urban flax]

Wait average dino enjoyer, @oak cave how much growing times are you thinking of ?

[oak cave]

whats a deino now? 5hrs?

[urban flax]

yes

[oak cave]

honestly, 7-8

[upper summit]

No.

[oak cave]

for most people, not achievable in one day

[urban flax]

hOW MUCH FOR A REX THEN ,

[oak cave]

like myself, I can't do 8 hours in one day.

[upper summit]

It is too weak and boring for 8 hours

[urban flax]

sry caps

How much for a rex then ?

[oak cave]

well weak and boring, is not my complaint at all

thats a balance mechanic

[upper summit]

Yes it is

[oak cave]

how much is rex now?

6?

[urban flax]

In legacy it's 8 hours I think ?

[oak cave]

really?

[urban flax]

I've never played it tho so I don't really know

[cyan flame]

No

[oak cave]

I'm not really saying "overhaul everything", to a point, but just make people use the time carefully, not so much recklessly.

[upper summit]

You can't change the way people play

[cyan flame]

Longest in legacy is 6.5 hours, and that's giga

[oak cave]

sure, don't want to

[compact hare]

I think 5-6 hours a good growth base for deino now
with afk growth you get 8 hours
with a good diet following 3,5 or 4
tbh 3,5 sounds very low... maybe 4 hours

[oak cave]

thats not in my point either lol

[upper summit]

Then don't make the suggestion

[oak cave]

its not changing the way people play

its changing the game

you can play however you please lol

[upper summit]

...

How are you gonna say

[urban flax]

That'd be 3.5 hours of intense activity

[upper summit]

"Boredom isn't my argument"

[oak cave]

If the isle by default had minimum 12 hour grow times, you would still play it.

because you wouldnt know any different... ?

[upper summit]

When you want bigger grow times

[urban flax]

I wouldn't

[oak cave]

I would, feels like a commitment, not a sandbox.

[urban flax]

If a games has no fun in it, I don't play it

[oak cave]

its fun, because when you are adult, you are rare, unique and people look up to you

your not just "another adult"

[urban flax]

As updates goes, there's gonna be more and more ways to die ealy
Increasing growth times is far from necessary

[urban flax]

Elder*

[oak cave]

well thats fair, but my argument is not based off of the future of the game

based off of now.

[urban flax]

It should

[oak cave]

perhaps

[upper summit]

wtf?

[oak cave]

but the game is subject to heavy change

[compact hare]

If deino stays as it is rn, 3 hours
if its going to be stronger than it is now ((please lets not go into that deino buff nerf AGAIN)) I think 3,5 or 4 hours are good
imo

[upper summit]

like they're gonna make longer grow times right now?

dude no

[urban flax]

Every think you're saying in the feedback channel should be based on the future on the game

[oak cave]

@upper summit clearly didnt read the post

[urban flax]

Because otherwise it's just giving an incentive for it to remain the same, forever.

[upper summit]

mhm

[upper summit]

u act like the grow times just fly by, when I reach 100% I'm like "finally now I can be free to hunt"

[oak cave]

Well they don't, I agree. But they also arn't that hard to achieve?

[upper summit]

So what

[oak cave]

Its kinda just, a hangout and wait thing.

[urban flax]

So wait longer is your solution ?

[upper summit]

Who cares if they aren't that hard to achieve, it isn't supposed to be you're just highly vulnerable to anything larger than you until you're adult.

[old schooner]

how do i take off with the dino lol

[urban flax]

Dinos can't take off

But pteras can by holding space

[half mirage]

If they make growtimes any longer, im going to stop playing. Its bad enough when you die you lose all progress. Also being anything but an adult is purely boring af. If grow times were longer, they would need something else for juvies to do aside from run for their lives and hide.

[old schooner]

there all a dinosaur to me

[urban flax]

That's racist

[oak cave]

Well with longer grow times, there would be significantly far less "running and hiding"

Because again, adults, or any larger dinos in high population would be more rare.

[old schooner]

he just runs an flaps his wings for 2 secs, can babies not fly?

[urban flax]

Do it while not moving

[oak cave]

it would feel more serious when you ran into an adult, instead of just having to run and hide "again"

[urban flax]

And make sure you're full on stamina

[old schooner]

ahhh t

ty

[cyan flame]

@oak cave They wouldn't really be more rare you know, not with current game anyway.

[oak cave]

Either way, I appreciate the feedback, If you read the post, its very clear in its current understanding of the game as it is now.

[urban flax]

But playing as an adult is the core experience of every dino
And you want to take that away from players

[oak cave]

I think the core experience is the Survival

adult or baby

[upper summit]

If you're coming to The Isle looking for a giant, amazing achievement instead of a dinosaur simulator then you've come to the wrong place.

[urban flax]

No it's the genre

[oak cave]

whoa lol

never said that

[upper summit]

Yeah you did

Let me find it for you.

[cyan flame]

Eh, not sure on that Necro, playing should be. If it's only adult, then you're missing out on growth, which should also be a good play time and enjoyable.

[half mirage]

Adults will never be rare. Because no matter what the devs put in as rules, clans and friends will always help eachother grow and mob other playes.

[oak cave]

I said "I'm looking for a giant amazing achievement"

[barren zephyr]

I only play Utah because long grows are AIDS

[cyan flame]

Core experience perhaps, but not "too much" of one, if that makes sense to you

[upper summit]

Here

[urban flax]

Honestly if you're looking to the Isle as a dino simulator you've also come to the wrong place
Or you're gonna be disappointed soon enough

[oak cave]

yeah, i think to a knowledgeable player, growing to an adult dino is not that hard...

thats not really anything new?

[upper summit]

I've been here for 1.4k hours man I'm ight

[cyan flame]

Well, they can be rare, if it's difficult, which is not the same as time/tedious

[oak cave]

yeah and thats the balance

time/tedious

[urban flax]

Oh ok
You know there's gonna be humans, mutants and all of that then ?

[oak cave]

i just made a suggestion, the details therein are not in my post lol

[cyan flame]

I think you missed my point Raze..

[oak cave]

I'd be happy to be educated 🙂

[cyan flame]

Increasing time does not add difficulty, it only makes it boring and tedious. It will not prevent too many adults, since people will still grind through it. What you need is difficulty in growing up, via diets, and all sorts of stuff, that has a whole lot of situations you need to survive, which should weed out the ones that aren't smart, skilled, and just lucky enough at times.

[oak cave]

Thats fair. I agree, but once those mechanics come out, people will find their ways and be just as good at it.

Truly the only way to make it interesting would be adding an element of luck to it, kinda like what you said.

Or else they release the diet mechanics, give it 2 days and there will be a full guide on how to grow with X dino.

increasing the time, increased the chance of variable

of luck, so to say.

[urban flax]

Having a guide is one thing, being able to actually do it is another

[oak cave]

well then it comes down to that particular players skill

and nobody can account for that.

[urban flax]

It'(s rewarding skill, and it's fine

[cyan flame]

Yes, there might be a guide, there will also be a guide on where to find the herbi and how to hunt it when it goes for food, and so on.

[barren zephyr]

@oak cave the idea its self is very intriguing however I feel that maybe there could be specific servers for that and not just being in general.

[cyan flame]

The point is that it's not about time, it's about things to do, which leads to situations you need to handle.

[oak cave]

hahaha

[cyan flame]

if you just added longer times right now, it would do very little.

[oak cave]

"Hardcore mode"!

[old schooner]

SO ONCE I TAKE OFF AN STAMINA RUNS OUT, I HAVE NO WAY TO GAIN ALTITUDE ?

[oak cave]

no Ui, longer grow, increased lethality! lets do it lmfao

[icy lion]

just use the standing takeoff tbh

[urban flax]

No and it's not necessary to put it all in caps

You gotta manage your stamina carefully when flying

[oak cave]

I agree completely, hence the statement in the end of my post. With the game as it is, adding that time would just serve to piss folks off

[old schooner]

WHY DOES EVERYONE HATE ON CAP'S LOCK

[oak cave]

But come full release, whenever that is.. ya know.

[urban flax]

Because it's painful to read

[old schooner]

SO ARE YOUR REPLIES LOL

[urban flax]

[old schooner]

SARCASM LEVEL 99

[urban flax]

You think you're funny ?

[barren zephyr]

BeCaUsE iT's noT pRoPeR gRaMmAr (i assume i dont really care.)

Goodbye.

[oak cave]

Anyway, thanks for everyone's feedback 🙂

[old schooner]

thanks for the help all

[hybrid matrix]

@upper summit u should die no matter how high u r above the geyser
the heat isnt lost by travelling 40 feet

[upper summit]

I never said it had to be realistic.

[icy lion]

but it also doesnt travel in a perfect laser

itll dissipate in the air

depending on the size of the geyser, the height could change

[hybrid matrix]

ik
the heat isnt as hot as it is when it first leaves the ground, but its not like its room temperature

[upper summit]

I was thinking something like the geysers in V3 how they go straight up

[hybrid matrix]

also ptera rlly shouldnt be able to do this
its.... its paper

[upper summit]

I mean either way the geysers would look really cool in evrima

[hybrid matrix]

something like ptera would get crushed by the force of the geyser if it were around half way up the stream

[hybrid matrix]

yeah

its just, u shouldnt be able to fly into them without consequences

[ionic arch]

Blood is ugly on the current water

[upper summit]

u dont, u take alot of damage from flying too close as said in my suggestion

even on the tip of the geyser

u take 10-20%

[hybrid matrix]

its like trying to bathe in liquid oxygen (rocket fuel)

yeah i kno
but (especially as a ptera) u should either die, or almost die

[upper summit]

I'll probably re-suggest it as a map idea but also have a reason to visit them, like maybe having some fruits and stuff

[hybrid matrix]

the only boost ur getting from a geyser is a boost straight to heaven

[old schooner]

been running around an yet to find more than one person lol. Is there a hot spot to spawn at?

[white rune]

As much as I love ampbibians

Koolasuchus would just be Deinosuchus redux

like it is an ambush semi aquatic predator.

The only thing that could difference it from Deino is possible temperature resistance and the need to rest a lot more in water.

But alligators are also known to survive in cold climate.

And I say "survive" because only having your snout out of the water for months isn't simply living.

[paper oriole]

i lowkey want prion

[white rune]

That's the same thing unfortunately

[barren zephyr]

Hey anyone know why i cant change texture quality from low?

[white rune]

personally I'd love to get Mastodonsaurus

but damn

same thing as Deino

they all occupy the same niche

[sudden hinge]

I think koola would be a nice addition just because it’d be a low tier semi aquatic ambusher

[white rune]

some more original crocs would be Kapro and Moura/Stomato

but there is also Notho and Atopo

[barren zephyr]

@sudden hinge I love that idea. However people are gonna want to play with there friends which will lead to issues when they can't play Carno with some friends.

[paper oriole]

this guy looks much more small game and aquatic prey specialized than deino who hunts larger terrestrials as an ambusher

but it will never happen, i can just dream

that long beautiful snoot

[white rune]

it would just be Deinosuchus 0.25.

Stays even more in water but resistant to temperatures and better camo.

[strange wave]

prion bad, koola good

[paper oriole]

prion cuter

deino is already an aquatic ambusher, like i guess koola and deino can both fit but prion isnt an ambusher at all

[sudden hinge]

I can see that issue but I also made a suggestion awhile back about revisiting how grouping works in regards to nesting and hatchlings and juvis that could help alleviate that. As well as I think private servers will have the option to change pack limits as they see fit. I was kinda speaking to an official server stand point but I see your point

[barren zephyr]

Maybe depends on how implemented.

[white rune]

It could be more fish specialized of course. But the problem with our Deino is the basic crocodilian problem : it dominates everything in its ecosystem and occupy so well its niche that nothing else can do this.

Could be gharial like of course with occacional attacks on small animals. But as Prio you almost cannot go on land or you lose all of your thirst in 3 minutes.

[paper oriole]

hmn maybe he could be a coastal sort of guy when that biome comes in like 20 years

[strange wave]

then we add abilities to it that make it more than that
example
burrowing in mud at the bottom of rivers, from this state it should gain stamina back faster, it should also be able to sleep like this to log out or die as an elder, it should also be able to shoot straight up from this state, its power level would be around the same as austro, though able to eat minmi and beipi more reliably, it should also be much more water reliant that deino, drying up faster when out of water, but gaining water quicker in water

[sudden hinge]

Exactly I’m sure we’ll have a more balanced pack and herd limit once we have more playables I just hope they still stick to smallish group sizes to promote more solo gameplay because solo carno is way fun as it is

[white rune]

A croc I would like to have : Stomatosuchus, the pelican croc.

Eat entire fish schools and able to swallow swimming preys such as Dryo and even Utah.

[strange wave]

stomato would probably die if it tried to swallow a dryo, especially a utah

[barren zephyr]

Only an hour and a half left on my 6 hour wait time in #general-feedback !

[paper oriole]

yeah stomato would get fucked up trynna eat a utah whole

[barren zephyr]

Yea, seems like it should come when the roster is full. (I'm pretty sure you already mentioned that tho.)

[white rune]

Utah yeah. Dryo I'm pretty sure it could.

But many of our animals do not do what they could do realistically : Carno, Tenonto, Stego, Utah.

[sudden hinge]

Mhm but we’ll see I’m hoping after update 3 drops we’ll see the ecosystem flourish

[barren zephyr]

I think it'll be a bit longer than that, probably after 6-7 drop.

But it will flourish indeed.

[sudden hinge]

Definitely need my cera to have things to hunt lol

[white rune]

Anyway I agree that semi aquatic ecosystem needs more animals.

[barren zephyr]

Cerato mains for life.

[glad dirge]

Cera is gonna be so fun

[strange wave]

do i need to post the image?

[barren zephyr]

Head popping...?

If so then pls

[strange wave]

dream playable right there

[pale bloom]

Hope Cera it's fun I like that animal

[barren zephyr]

Did you add something under the eye? It looks a lil different.

[strange wave]

nope

[barren zephyr]

[white rune]

Nothosaurus, Atopodentatus would be the best to have. Something like Kaprosuchus too but it would still remain semi aquatic and then have an actual land croc like Barinasuchus.

Possibly as AI Stupendemnys, Pannoniasaurus, Beelze. Even more with little food items like insects, crayfish, stingrays, eletric eels, goliath tiger fish, bullsharks, alligator gar etc.

[glad dirge]

Wow that's amazing! 👏

[barren zephyr]

I love nothosaurus, I'd love to see it as a seal/mosa kinda gameplay.

[white rune]

I see it working like a seal.

Basically

living in mangroves

shallows

and estuaries.

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

desmatosuchus in mangroves too mmm i can dream (in vain)

[barren zephyr]

HEy does anyone know if your dino saves after logging off? Or does it reset?

[strange wave]

wait, what ecosystem is this meant to be?

[elder rivet]

reddit

[near hound]

Ahh I’d love to see other dinosaurs prosper in mangroves. I really hope to see some mangroves meet the sea as well since that would be very visually pleasing and also interesting to play around. Having a dino that can swim between each water body would be very neato.

[barren zephyr]

Anyone know this?

[strange wave]

because, atopo and notho are oceanic species, stupen is larger than all 3 and the best playable there, kaprosuchus is permanent 0% deino (it never had long legs), pannon is a river mosasaur that is also tiny, and beelze is a basket ball that joined qa

[astral crescent]

eu 2 is having some rubberbanding issues

[white rune]

Semi aquatic.

[sudden hinge]

It’s beautiful

[strange wave]

thats a very broad spectrum, is it fresh water or salt water, because you have both

[glossy tiger]

XDDD WT*

[white rune]

Those animals can go wherever they want if no obstacle.

Like if we ever get mangroves, Notho and Atopo can live there while Stupen and Deino cannot, but those firsts two can also live in freshwater as they are viable in there.

Same goes for Spinosaurus being a coastline fisher and hunter.

[strange wave]

dont like that idea

[carmine path]

hey gamers i need feedback in balance for a Deino lunge mechanic in #balance-feedback-discussion

[strange wave]

removes all uniqueness of notho when pannon and koola do the same thing

[carmine path]

@strange wave would you say you are good with criticism?

[strange wave]

sure, hit me

[carmine path]

seems you already hit me

haha

[white rune]

Notho would be a true endurance predator.

Panno can work as a eel like animal, going around rocks and very thin places so where possibly Beipi can go as well.

[torn thistle]

https://i.imgur.com/fE1IDgR.png

[barren zephyr]

Yo why did my suggestion get deleted though

Wasn't even a troll suggestion

[white rune]

Meanwhile eel land mosa.

[torn thistle]

Probably because it looked very much like a troll suggestion

[barren zephyr]

Fair enough

[zealous violet]

Anyone else think the utah's run from the back looks like a guy riding a unicycle? Especially juvie utahs?

Also, why does the utah jump sound like a bite? (Ive not played utah in a minute so this is new to me)

[white rune]

Utah bad

delete Utah

Nah just utah is fun to play

but god

it is among the most unbalanced shit with Dryo xd

[zealous violet]

dryo is a little OP, haha. They certainly make it hard for you to catch them.

[barren zephyr]

@sudden hinge Thank you for the feedback, over the past few months I've been trying to compose the most accurate list possible (if we see new creatures it will be updated.) I put a lot of time and work into it so your means a lot.

[swift dew]

you want them to be easy to catch? the entire point of this game is to severly punish mistakes while rewarding good behavior. not haha dryo = free food

[barren zephyr]

Any time @swift dew !

[sudden hinge]

Of course definitely thanks for compiling it I took it to my discord to show the rest of my friends and pinned it as the most updated tentative roster

[barren zephyr]

Thank you so much, that means a lot!

[swift dew]

how long did that take you? because it seems that you not only separated everything by starting letter, but you then went and made everything in alphabetical order. not to mention you got all of the species names too

an idea if you want to top it all off would be to add ideas for the community dino, but you might have already reached the character limit so

[barren zephyr]

I've been researching for 4-5 months and making smaller versions of the list going to many sources figuring out how to get everything just right. But the list its self took me around an hour to make, although I posted it earlier on accident before finished and had to wait six hours.

[swift dew]

dang, I would have just done all of the genus and went on my merry way

[barren zephyr]

I don't think I've reached character limit yet, but there are so many possible options for community dino that I don't think I could fit them all or even find them all!

[swift dew]

@barren zephyr edit right now, magy should be above maia. g comes before i

[barren zephyr]

O! Thanks!

[sudden hinge]

Of course

[barren zephyr]

Fixed.

[swift dew]

yup, I scanned it and found nothing wrong with anything else

[barren zephyr]

Thanks for the help!

[still raptor]

@barren zephyr You do realize that Diplodocus that Jake referred to a while ago is Bronto right?

[barren zephyr]

It's show in an old dossier, so I figured I'd include it

[still raptor]

Ah

[barren zephyr]

@livid igloo I see what your saying but it would make it much easier for Ptera too, well not die.

[still raptor]

@livid igloo Look at these feet. They ain't picking up shit.

[barren zephyr]

Think he means with the bill.

[glad dirge]

Om gosh are those really the feet?

[livid igloo]

The beak would snap a baby raptors neck :3

Especially an adult

[barren zephyr]

If you wanna call them that

[still raptor]

Juvie Raptor weighs half has much as an adult Ptera. Ptera will have an extremely hard time flying away with it.

[livid igloo]

Hence baby

[glad dirge]

Hatchings

[rotund silo]

I hate my fingers😤

[bold palm]

They should give ptera 75 bite force full adult and adjust it accordingly throughout the growth stages, a new adult should be able to kill a dryo or small prey and an adult should be able to take juvis and some subs. imo. So baby, 10, juvi, 20, sub 35ish and fresh adult 50 then full adult 75. thoughts?

[compact hare]

I think its too much for ptera, being a scavenger and modtly eating fish for now
but Imo the elder stage (being stronger for a while) could have like 60 to 65 bite force
or less, or more, we dont know how stronger the elders will be when comparing to adults

[bold palm]

i thought elders would get less strength as they age until they die?

[compact hare]

They are stronger for a while
than they slowly get weaker untill they die

afaik

[tall plinth]

I'll be honest, I think deinosuchus needs a slight damage buff but not because of the whole stego situation. I just think it needs a slight damage increase to 600 or so because creatures that are smaller take a bit too many bites to kill for such a seemingly large animal, I've heard that creatures as small as utahs don't die in a single bite which kinda sounds absurd to me. Other than that, I don't think deino should be able to take on stego on land or chase things on land in the first place, i just want a slight damage buff so tiny creatures don't quite easily escape from the jaws of an 8 ton crocodile.

[bold palm]

I mean if you think about it, anything as it ages gets less of everything. So really if you think about it, all babies should have good stamina, they reach a peak which would be full adult, then as they age from there to elder would slowly lose a little of everything until old age takes them

[compact hare]

I wouldnt mind a buff really, but punch said deino is not a type of bite to win playable, like rex for example. Its main ability and way to kill/get meal its the lunge; when done right, you can kill almost everything in the current roster

[cold zealot]

What about ptera's though? I don't mind the playstyle but I feel like a watching bird lmao

[tall plinth]

I don't want an insane buff to make deino a rex 2.0, but just so it can at least one shot utah with a normal bite (which I heard it hasn't) and currently I've heard great things about deino's grab

[compact hare]

Also locational damage is a thing, I dont know much about if it kills or not when hits the head, neck or body of the utah
but if its not a 1 shot, damn, it should be lmao

Again, I wouldnt mind a buff, but wouldnt mind if it stay as it is rn

[tall plinth]

I wouldn't mind either, I just think deinosuchus needs time and a bit more fixes to its bugs

The community's gotta adjust to its playstyle

[compact hare]

but it def needs a hitbox fix lel

[tall plinth]

Absolutely

[bold palm]

It's would also be cool to have dynamic stats, so say you are a carno, you sit in a bush all day long, you'd have less stamina, because you're lazy and out of shape, where as someone playing carno who runs all the time around the map would build up a more robust dino that could potentially run faster and have more stamina.

[compact hare]

I believe when diets and quetz (imagine a ptera but as big as a giraffe, thats quetz) arrive things will have more action

[tall plinth]

wait until people start calling deino bad animal

[cold zealot]

I love quetz, I'm not a dino expert but playing ark def gave me favorites among the bunch. I'd really like to see a kapro (I think it's called) basically a very fast dog gator.

[compact hare]

but ye Ptera gameplay now is very calm, I would like to see a hunger debuff, getting hungry faster bcuz you can grow pretty much to adult stage without eating one single time

[cold zealot]

Rn I'm almost at the 3rd phase without drinking or eating.

[compact hare]

Its more of a "spawn and explore" gameplay

[cold zealot]

it's almost like the gage only goes down because I'm getting a bigger food and water pool from growing

[bold palm]

depends on how you play it 🙂 I attack everything once I hit adult.

[compact hare]

Lmao ye, peck everything and everyone

[cold zealot]

I haven't attacked anything because the only stuff I find are packs of like 20-30+ raptors or deinos

[swift dew]

elders get a boost to strength to be stronger than the adult version, and then slower get weaker and weaker untill they are weaker than the adult version and then good night

[bold palm]

ya you can kill your own kind obviously, you can kill babies, utahs, maybe carno, deinos etc..

dog fights in the air are fun

[cold zealot]

Can I flyby grab dead babies by chance?

I know I can't just yagga them, which I personally think I should be able to do but that's just me

[compact hare]

you can carry then around but only on the ground
afaik fishes and meat chunks are the only things you can fly away with

[cold zealot]

meat chunks? like click g or something and I take a piece?

[compact hare]

Ptera is too light and its feet are not made for fly, grab and fly away, thats why it can grab juvies
juvie utahs are almost as heavy as you lel

yes

When the body is too big to caryy, if you press G it will get a little chunk of meat

[cold zealot]

ohh, you said I can grab juvies, as in ptera?

[compact hare]

You can grab small bodies and walk away with them, not fly

[cold zealot]

I see

Wonder if the quetz will be able to

I know those things are large as hell

[compact hare]

I guess its pretty light too, maybe ligher or almost as heavy as a utah
Imo it should yoink hatchlings with its beak and run around, fly away lel

but very small hatchling species

[cold zealot]

like the acid spitting bird thing

[compact hare]

yes

[cold zealot]

is their juvi form not done yet?

[compact hare]

Its done but the game is not prepared to add such small things like them

[cold zealot]

ah

was wondering why you spawn full adult

[compact hare]

and btw it wouldnt even reach the water before it dies lel its too small, its being added im nest update I guess

[cold zealot]

what does the spit even do?

I figured it wouldn't

by the size of the display chart you get thing looks as small as a foot

[compact hare]

Blinds the enemy, but its very hard to aim when you are being chased by 57 utahs and 43 carnos all the time

[cold zealot]

I got chased by a juvi utah and it started zigzagging utltimately making it useless to hit

[compact hare]

ye, I believe a cone shaped aim would be better

[cold zealot]

yeah

or an aimassist tracker

something of the sot

sort*

[bold palm]

ptera being able to sniff out fish

[cold zealot]

^ that would be kinda good tbh. make it easier to find it at least instead of zooming through all the rivers

[bold palm]

maybe the smell system will only pertain to each dinos diet, so if ptera generally eats fish, they can only smell fish or aquatic type meals.

[compact hare]

It would fit better in a perk

[bold palm]

oh ya, you have to eat something first before you can smell it out

that would be cool

[cold zealot]

not sure how the perk would work, I only recently redownloaded to see the human structures and the pteras. haven't played since like 2017

[bold palm]

like your character learns as it explores things

you'd get smell perks based on what you explore and eat

each dino could have it's own smell

so say you're ptera, you kill a utah, now you can smell utahs in the forests and stuff even if they're sitting.

otherwise you can't smell them

[cold zealot]

that'd be odd

[compact hare]

When you do certain things and obey your diet, you get perk points and spend them on perks
not damage buff like perks
Things like more stamina, sniff while walking as herb, further area of sniff

[molten tulip]

Footprints changing color based on your last meal could be interesting

[compact hare]

I mean there are like 50 or so playables, having to eat and kill all of them just to sniff them would be ... idk

[molten tulip]

Like that could be a way to spot cannibals

[cold zealot]

Maybe a filter tab to make animals you don't want to find all one color and animals you want to find a different color?

[bold palm]

you could still smell things they just wouldn't be identified with a color until you actually eat them

and ya a perk could be smelling sitting dinos

idk maybe not

[molten tulip]

A perk that let's you differentiate dinos with footprint color could work

[bold palm]

cuz then you could easily find and target people

[cold zealot]

that's what my main question would be about that. would be rather weird. and kinda hard to get all scents.

[bold palm]

That's the point though

[cold zealot]

imagine trying to get a rex scent as a ptera

[bold palm]

why smell everything? that lags servers too

by killing and eating something would be best way to add it to your smell inventory

some animals would also have echo location so that would be cool to see one day

or infrared even

seeing heat

[full tendon]

Question for you guys, that might have already been answered. Is there a way to have the main game separate from the Quality-Assurance branch so that we don't have to keep downloading one or the other when wanting to play?

[compact hare]

There is a tutorial on youtube about how to download both versions, you have legacy and evrima at the same time

[cold zealot]

anaconda update when

gib snake

[bold palm]

prob use discussion for general game questions

js

[chilly slate]

link?

[still raptor]

You just copy your isle folder and rename it

[chilly slate]

o

[paper oriole]

Diseases sound annoying af unless they are a punishment for doing dumb shit like megapacking and eating rotten meat

[chilly slate]

yes, that's how you would catch them

[paper oriole]

RNG disease would be terrible lol

[chilly slate]

yeah

that wouldn't be realistic either

animals have built in disease defence

[still raptor]

Unless you want parasites that cause mutations like what happens with pond frogs

[paper oriole]

Imagine getting a disease out of nowhere because a mosquito or rng for random injuries to get infections

Awful

[chilly slate]

oo

what if you went in the swamp and there were parasites

kind of like ark's swamp

[still raptor]

Diseases are and RNG cesspool

Same with Parasites

[paper oriole]

Isnt teno going to be somewhat forced to go into swamps for his preferred diet

[still raptor]

Yes.

[paper oriole]

Dont wanna get punished for being a teno following my proper diet

[still raptor]

It's meant to be Semi-Aquatic. Needs its old swimming speed from Evrima launch imo.

[chilly slate]

nevermind

rng would be annoying, but it would be cool as a trap for new players if they ate rotten meat

or went in massive groups

[still raptor]

No it wouldn't.

It's stupid regardless of having RNG in this game.

[chilly slate]

it wouldn't be rng

[still raptor]

But it would.

[chilly slate]

is eating bad food and getting sick rng?

i get rng in groups, but not that

[still raptor]

I thought you were talking about getting diseases and parasites. You're proposal is an example of RNG. Getting sick because you overeat is entirely different from getting diseases.

[chilly slate]

oh

i see what you mean

i'll edit the suggestion

[paper oriole]

Not to get political but...

Argentavis > Haast

[snow mantle]

Oh yeah, absolutely

Used haast because it seems to be more widely talked about

Though argentavis could fill the same niche described for Haast, albeit at a bigger scale

[paper oriole]

Argent can also eat stinky old corpses

[snow mantle]

Right

[paper oriole]

Same with pelagornis probably though he's a seabird

[snow mantle]

Big scary waste disposal crew

[paper oriole]

Big albatross vs big condor vs big eagle

[snow mantle]

Bonus with haast: you get to have fried eagle as a merc

KFE

[left nacelle]

I like the haast idea, but my concern is that it would be hard to get food. With how small it is, it likely won't be able to pick up many animals, and since it doesn't really have any other reliable methods of finding food (except for scavenging and hoping you find a fresh corpse) I think surviving as one would be pretty hard

[snow mantle]

Hm, maybe a slower metabolism?

Kinda like deino; grabs food every once in a while, focuses on other resources the rest of the time

[left nacelle]

Maybe replacing haast with Argy and letting it eat rotten food would work, since Argy is bigger and a vulture

That could also work

[snow mantle]

My only worry with it eating rotten material is that it’ll likely outcompete pter

Pter is faster, yes, but it relies on scavenging and fishing

It’s a better fisher, but for now, it’s also a pretty good scavenger

[left nacelle]

I'd argue that ptera relies almost entirely on fishing and barely ever scavenges

[snow mantle]

Ah, yeah, you’re right

[left nacelle]

If Argy out competes it for scavenging, it can always turn to fishing

[snow mantle]

Argy is also bigger, so it’d have a wider range of prey

[left nacelle]

Yeah, that's the main reason I think Argy would be better than Haast's. Unless maybe Haast's specializes on hunting prey much larger than itself (like it did irl) and drops the carrying ability, but I feel like that deviates too far from your original suggestion

[carmine path]

@mild walrus It is confirmed. stop giving feedback on this

[paper oriole]

Argy is also a condor and condors are way cooler than normie eagles

[paper oriole]

3 hour kentro

Seems odd that bary would be shorter than teno and carno too

[barren zephyr]

Teno - 2 hours and 30 minutes

Reasons -

Teno is just too strong for its size and what it nets you, people say its a "50/50" with carno but it fucking MAULS it, one tail slam (it can tail slam 15 times now) and your carno is dead, how would someone justify growing a magy when teno (Who currently is a 2 hour growth) exist?

Carno - 2 hours and 30 minutes

He's the fastest guy in the roster but isnt that good at fighting, 2.5 hours is perfect and sense its the only growth that i'm not changing I think I dont have to explain much

MAGY MOVE SET -

Neck slam (that pushes things under 2 tons to the ground), stomp (that causes fractures and would combo with its neck slam) and a tail whip (imagine legacy cama tail whip but faster)

And then make it so if you bite magys neck, you get poisoned (the magy would have to eat in its diet of toxic leaves to get the effect), the poison would make you regen stam slower, make you gain health slower and slow down fractue heal rate, this combos well with its great stamina (with slightly below average run speed)

Takes nearly no damage on neck hits to

also maybe give it a toxic bite (snake fangs maybe?)

Average true mid tier growth (maia/allo/alberto/plateo/para) - 3 hours and 30 mintues

[barren zephyr]

well he isnt as strong as them

hes kinda like the middle man

not the best at anything and makes up for it by fishing

[barren zephyr]

hes basically a mid tier imo

[paper oriole]

Do we know how strong bary will be?

[barren zephyr]

no

I'm going off of novas side chart

and how bary looks

[paper oriole]

He might whoop carno's ass with those long ass claws and possible good bleed

[barren zephyr]

You know its bulk/weapons

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but carno is way faster

so bary will never be the one engaging

[paper oriole]

Same with teno though who is the same growth as carno

[barren zephyr]

because teno bodies carno hard atm

[paper oriole]

Teno is forced on the defensive in the same way bary would be

I mean if there is the assumption that bary will be a pushover i suppose, all speculative I guess

[barren zephyr]

yeah but teno vs carno is more of a 65/45

I think bary vs carno will be a 50/50

[paper oriole]

I also feel that kentro may be taken out by properly ambushing predators well enough that 3 hours isn't justified.

If that isnt the case it is a bit more understandable but it looks like an ez ambush kill

[barren zephyr]

yeah but you can say the same about everything

[unborn quail]

Not to agree or disagree on any of the given times

But being ambushed is a thing for every animal

if it were to factor into balance then the same could be said about tenonto

as a well placed ambush from a carno basically guarantees its death

[barren zephyr]

I view it as basically a mini stego

[paper oriole]

Not exactly, since due to kentro's size+the fact stego has a big headshot multiplier means kentro will likely have one too

[unborn quail]

That depends on kentros health if im honest

if kentro has low health then there is no real reason for it to have as high of a locational modifier

[paper oriole]

He doesn't exactly look resilient, more of a glass cannon but that's just me speculating personally

[barren zephyr]

Yeah it isn't resilient by itself

but those spikes make it tanky

[paper oriole]

Oviraptor is pretty small, never really thought of him having a glide but maybe it could work

[celest furnace]

Five hours for general feedback!!?? what happened?

[paper oriole]

Spam happened

[celest furnace]

Ugh

[paper oriole]

People having convos in there and spamming the same shite “feedback” over and over because reading channel titles and descriptions is hard

Feelsbadman

[celest furnace]

Hey what do you guys think of my ovi suggestion? If you think it’s absolutely crap lmk why you dislike it 🙂

[celest furnace]

Ahh ok ty

[paper oriole]

I mean it could work, ovi's small enough i think that it wouldnt look too dumb for him to flip flap for a clumsy glide/fall damage nullifier

[celest furnace]

Awesome! Tysm! Now how big is ovi going to be? It was hard to make it because I’m really not too sure

[paper oriole]

Right now he looks like just a small version of galli gameplay wise. One sec ill grab the nova chart

[celest furnace]

That’s exactly what I was thinking

[celest furnace]

Ok 🙂

[paper oriole]

Probably close enough to what hell be

[celest furnace]

Holy guacamole

That’s tiny!