aight when i first saw the model i thought it was baby anky
#general-feedback-discussion
golden iron
hybrid matrix
proto = mountain goat
homa = hmmm
taco = tree dweller
oro = plain dweller
hypsi = turkey
minmi = turtle
alr
wut could homa be
wut niche could it fill
paper oriole
taco should have ultimate fall damage reduction and be able to brace himself for tumbles to escape by yeeting himself down cliff and mountain sides. why? because why not
hybrid matrix
taco should have ultimate fall damage reduction and be able to brace himself for...
same reason troodon should be god. why? why not?
paper oriole
troodon can die
hybrid matrix
yea
paper oriole
or maybe give that to homa because atm he got nothin lol
hybrid matrix
OOH!
paper oriole
homa just yeets himself off vertical ledges to escape
paper oriole
semi aquatic homa? seems a bit odd
paper oriole
beaver proto would look better, he's got a bit of a flattened tail and big old chompers for wood
paper oriole
well he has a tiny beak
hybrid matrix
make big beak
paper oriole
it isnt really pointed at the front unfortunately
hybrid matrix
shit
paper oriole
curves downwards like a raptors beak almost
hybrid matrix
hmmm
paper oriole
paper oriole
taco is useless, just like stink bugs. stink bug taco
only saying this because stink bugs also yeet themselves off vertical ledges and i want taco to as well
hybrid matrix
yea but skunk taco could spray stinky juice on things that attack it
or wait
hang on
beter yet
better*
porcupine taco and skunk homa
š
paper oriole
if porcupine taco fucks up large tiers that try eating it whole with its quills that'd be pretty epic
a final "fuck you"
hybrid matrix
if porcupine taco fucks up large tiers that try eating it whole with its quills ...
yea thats the point of porcupine taco
and, that would make taco live in low tree branches
AND, it would mean homa could dig for roots like skunks do
paper oriole
hmmm, well his name means mountain runner so just give that niche to him maybe
o wait proto nvm
paper oriole
i know! oro can yeet himself down mountains to escape predators 
hybrid matrix
that would make it a burrower, but it would be the only burrower
elder rivet
Oro's smaller than hypsi i guess they could make him have like no fall damage
paper oriole
could just keep taco as the meercat porcupine hybrid
hybrid matrix
could just keep taco as the meercat porcupine hybrid
but then wut about oro
ok so wut have we said?
paper oriole
hmn well making oro an arboreal would overlap with hypsi a bit. he could get the massive resistance to fall damage and live in cliffy/mountainous areas to live up to his name
golden iron
@noble pine I absolutely LOVE primal's flight mechanics, they always felt very well done for such a game. I really think the isle can do much better than what we have
hybrid matrix
mountain goat proto
turkey hypsi
turtle minmi
porcupine taco
meerkat oro
skunk homa
paper oriole
an ability i've wanted hypsi to have could also go to oro, jumping and kicking off walls to make escapes or scale canyon walls
noble pine
all i can think of when i see our ptera is "bruh primal ptera flight on our bord would be epic"
golden iron
and even the swallowing people whole for the apex's, is so smooth looking
hybrid matrix
ima suggest the niches we just came up with
elder rivet
Hypsi's more of a bird(with flight) than a turkey
paper oriole
i lowkey still prefer taco keep his meerkat niche along with porcupine
hypsi should be a squirrel
expanding on hypsi's arboreal and general climbing abilities would do it well i think
since atm all he can do is jump good
paper oriole
yea tho i'd love to see him get more, tho that just me
elder rivet
stinky juice
outer condor
I agree
jovial sleet
I think i prefer wombat proto over mountain goat proto
barren zephyr
Minmi as a turtle? Don't think that would work out too well
arctic nimbus
wombat proto is all i gotta say really
and just like a wombat it should have square poop
paper oriole
i prefer taco keep its borrowing rather than oro, oro just doesn't look like a burrower visually while taco has a moure stout body/legs more suited to it. wombat proto is pretty cool too, perhaps homa could nab the mountain goat niche
join pachy for mountain goat and ram buddies
silver zephyr
mountain goat pachy based
ashen wasp
Is there any basis for wallowing to remove Taco quills?? it seems to make more sense to just have a quill-removal animation, like the clearing-eyes animations that Hypsi's vomit brought
paper oriole
not sure how a dino would go about removing quills from its throat lol
ashen wasp
painfully
paper oriole
as far as body quills go, maybe some dinos can have preening for that and other future things they'd need it for
ashen wasp
oh, speaking of preening and such, it'd be really nice if feathered dinosaurs bathed in dust instead of mud
paper oriole
yeah definitely, it's dumb seein hypsi roll in mud lol
i want hypsi spazzing out in dust or sand like a chinchilla
golden iron
having two slots can let people have two apexes fully grown. They get in a fight, lose, and then spawn back in as an adult and go back to finish off the enemy.
making it extremely unfair
hexed badger
Maybe make it so you canāt have the same dinosaur or not two apexes
paper geyser
yep slots seem cool until you actually look into how game breaking it can become
if you want to play a different dinosaur just go to another server
especially if it's just for trying it out
hexed badger
The problem is, you canāt play a carnivore on a server with 0 people
Usually, only one server is populated
paper geyser
most times i check in there are at least two or three full servers
golden iron
most have like 50 players, thats still a lot
paper geyser
and it'll only get better with more updates
the idea of having one slot for each tier doesn't sound too bad though
one small, medium, large, something like that
hexed badger
That would solve the problem
hexed badger
So it is a small flier hunting smaller prey within forests or Jungles? Interesting, having a good scent would also allow it to be a small scavenger, and itās small size makes it more undetectable when running through taller grass
fervent fable
Yeah itād work as a jungle hunter
hybrid matrix
Is there any basis for wallowing to remove Taco quills?? it seems to make more s...
Think about it, if u wallow to get the quills out, then u also clot the bleeding that the quills cause
ashen wasp
or force the quills deeper in, depending on their placement
hybrid matrix
or force the quills deeper in, depending on their placement
true
maybe you could have a packmate take off the quills for you (depending wut dino it is) using their mouth
ashen wasp
Another Rex remodel might be nice, but ultimately unnecessary when there's so much more to do. I do adore that art, but Rex has already been remodelled twice, those resources can instead be put into creating models for new playables
fervent fable
true, rex isn't so much important especially since it's long off
ashen wasp
In any case, I agree that JP angles aren't always my favorite options from design standpoints (Hello, Utahraptor and Troodon), but I recognize their importance to the game's original vision and I don't expect them to be going anywhere any time soon. Instead, more customization options would be preferable in order to tweak the models towards other angles the community may want (lips, feathers, softer features, horn and skull shapes, etc.)
fervent fable
that's a good point
barren zephyr
Rex got his elder model too, also new animations
they won't redo the model, I can assure you.
fervent fable
yeah
hybrid matrix
In any case, I agree that JP angles aren't always my favorite options from desig...
this just gave me a great idea
urban flax
@hybrid matrix Legacy models arent compatible with evrima. And for some of them, using legacy models would drastically change their gameplay. Just compare legacy anky to evrima anky, they absolutely don't look the same, and evrima anky will probably go at twice the speed of legacy anky.
hybrid matrix
wdym not compatible
wintry monolith
<@!662789651102302238> Legacy models arent compatible with evrima. And for some ...
Anky is suposed to be a chonk turtel with a tail club and thefore taking less dmg on its back and not fast
urban flax
Yeah but that's not how it's designed for evrima
urban flax
wdym not compatible
It's basically not the same game, they break if they're used for evrima, I guess it has something do do with their rigging/the coding of the game
last lily
And look significantly worse than legacy Anky...
ashen wasp
<@!662789651102302238> Legacy models arent compatible with evrima. And for some ...
what do you mean by this?? Utah, Rex, Carno, etc. all keep their models??
urban flax
They remade similar models, but they're still new
hybrid matrix
what do you mean by this?? Utah, Rex, Carno, etc. all keep their models??
they mustve recreated them, bc utah is slightly different
ashen wasp
oh huh. that's neat
hybrid matrix
ok that actually makes sense
but
after everything is in the game
they could remake the legacy models and then add them in as a playable option
wintry monolith
With regional hitboxes they can Lower its dmg on its back and top of head and top of tail, and give it a bonebrek attack
wintry monolith
what do you mean by this?? Utah, Rex, Carno, etc. all keep their models??
Ummmm
urban flax
they could remake the legacy models and then add them in as a playable option
Might as well create all-new interesting models
ashen wasp
are there any side-by-side comparisons?? I haven't noticed any changes in the Legacy/Evrima Utahs
wintry monolith
They are all remodeld
hybrid matrix
Might as well create all-new interesting models
yes but some dinos have more interesting models in legacy
wintry monolith
But they have remade Them to get better qaulity
urban flax
yes but some dinos have more interesting models in legacy
Now that's subjective. i really don't like legacy spino's model, and I don't see a large enough difference in rex and utah models to justify bringing them back into the game.
hybrid matrix
Now that's subjective. i really don't like legacy spino's model, and I don't see...
its subjective that the legacy giga looked more interesting than the evrima generic looking giga?
wintry monolith
Difrences is 2020 grapichs agienst 2018 ish grapichs
urban flax
its subjective that the legacy giga looked more interesting than the evrima gene...
Yes.
hybrid matrix
i understand not everyone thinks the legacy giga is cooler than the evrima one, but theres no denying that the legacy giga was much more interesting
urban flax
Do you have a side-by-side comparison ?
hybrid matrix
hang on
wintry monolith
No
hybrid matrix
and no
hexed badger
are there any side-by-side comparisons?? I haven't noticed any changes in the Le...
They donāt have the same skin, but maybe you see the difference
wintry monolith
You need the default skin to compare them
And they remodeld it bc of the growth morph
urban flax
hmmm
I don't see a huge difference
We'll have to see once evrima giga is animated
barren zephyr
the new giga model obviously goes more buff
hybrid matrix
@urban flax better?
urban flax
I still don't see much of a difference
ashen wasp
They donāt have the same skin, but maybe you see the difference
not seeing any real difference between these models, sorry
hybrid matrix
its mostly in the head
hexed badger
not seeing any real difference between these models, sorry
Juvi models will show you the difference I guess
Wait
I couldnāt find pictures but... https://youtube.com/watch?v=bW2xohHmxZ0&feature=share
Skip to minute 8:00
hybrid matrix
@drowsy sun but who would enforce it?
or how would it be enforced if there are no moderators to enforce it
urban flax
There needs to be a mechanic, not a rule
hybrid matrix
^
urban flax
Like if a stego stays near a body for more than 30 seconds, it instantly dies
hexed badger
Maybe give it a debuff if it stays near a dead body for too long?
urban flax
That's a bad mechanic, but that would totally negate bodyguarding š
hexed badger
Like *if a stego stays near a body for more than 30 seconds, it instantly dies*
Best suggestion
drowsy sun
Like *if a stego stays near a body for more than 30 seconds, it instantly dies*
Lmao
But yeah Idk it's getting ridiculous
urban flax
This way you can wipe out entire herds of stegs by carrying a body with you and running around them until they all implode from stress
hybrid matrix
did u like my creative reaction?
drowsy sun
That certainly is a lot of reactions
hybrid matrix
the only thing that looks like h
is
gemini
...
i searched for like 5 fucking minutes to settle with fucking gemini
ā
hexed badger
Ye
drowsy sun
It should give herbis a good 30 seconds to a minute to leave, or they get injured maybe? Just far enough that they can't camp a body. Because it's literally camping lol
It's cheap af
In counter strike apparently you get kicked if you camp š¤·āāļø
hybrid matrix
It should give herbis a good 30 seconds to a minute to leave, or they get injure...
š³ š“
hybrid matrix
In counter strike apparently you get kicked if you camp š¤·āāļø
thats a private server so they made their rules
drowsy sun
Ah, fair
Talking with my bf about it, he doesnt even play the isle and he thinks its cheap. He brought up the counter strike thing
hybrid matrix
wait u mean csgo or a server called counter strike?
drowsy sun
csgo
drowsy sun
fair but it's something to think about regarding other games and cheap moves
hybrid matrix
fair but it's something to think about regarding other games and cheap moves
except it should be up to the server bc there r no rules servers that dont punish ppl for camping, yet ppl would get kicked anyway
also
wut if a stego killed a carno that was part of a group of other carnos, and the others kept attacking instead of just eating the body (this is on a rules server)? the stego would have 30 seconds to fucking run b4 it gets kicked
drowsy sun
Yeah that's true
hybrid matrix
and wut if the stego was new, and didnt kno about the kicking mechanic
they wouldnt even run at all
they would stay on the body and defend themselves
and they would get kicked bc they didnt kno about the camping thing, and the carnos kept attacking
i think the best way to address body campers is to make it so that carnivores can grab meat chunks from bodies they would normally drag
that way they could grab a chunk and then go
drowsy sun
i think the best way to address body campers is to make it so that carnivores ca...
I like that idea tbh, wolf quest lets you grab meat chunks
urban flax
The best solution I can think of would be to increase hunger/thirst drain when you are near a dead body. Campers would be forced to move on to find something to eat or drink sooner.
hybrid matrix
I like that idea tbh, wolf quest lets you grab meat chunks
so does TI, but only if the body is too big to carry
hybrid matrix
The best solution I can think of would be to increase hunger/thirst drain when y...
but how would the game determine who the camper is?
wut if ur just sitting at a body that belongs to u (based on the rules of the server) and u suddenly start getting increased hunger & thirst drainage?
i think the best solution is to allow all carnivores to grab chunks of meat from a body no matter how large the carnivore is compared to the body
urban flax
If was thinking about doing it for herbs only, but it may be unbalanced
But yeah meat chunks are better anyway
hybrid matrix
If was thinking about doing it for herbs only, but it may be unbalanced
wut if a giant creature dies right next to the nests of a group of herbivores?
and the body is too big for the carnivores to drag it away
urban flax
Allow herbs to move bodies too š
hybrid matrix
BUT HOW????? XD
urban flax
Shit
You just reminded me that herbies don't have sharp enough teeth nor jaws
Then fuck it, I'm not defending that idea anymore
hybrid matrix
:)
urban flax
Having a different fishing strategy isn't enough to make a new playable
nova anchor
pelagornis
urban flax
Pelagornis is not a good playable
hybrid matrix
i mean it would add some diversity, but so would making the legacy models a playable option
nova anchor
the goal of a fisher with a different style is to add diversity to fishing
hybrid matrix
well its also adding diversity to the dinosaurs
that thing looks incredibly unique
nova anchor
so dsugnaripterus would greatly differ from currently confirmed fishing techniques, giving another playstyle to fishing
hybrid matrix
but rlly thats the only upside to adding it
urban flax
I'd prefer having really different flyers before adding another fishing flyer
hybrid matrix
I'd prefer having *really* different flyers before adding another fishing flyer
yeah
nova anchor
of course dsungaripterus would be something for further down the line
hybrid matrix
maybe Nemicolopterus could replace the 2d birds that fly out from trees when u roar
urban flax
We wouldn't see the difference
hybrid matrix
yea we would
we would see the head and feet
wut we have rn is literally the skyray from subnautica
honestly i like the thought of ornithicheirus being added as a hunter of small dinos (utah, herra, dilo, etc)
barren zephyr
Etho, dsunga eats clams
hexed badger
Itās not that necessary but it would definitely look cooler
hexed badger
Imagine 10 Utahās pouncing on one argentinosaurus
hybrid matrix
Imagine 10 Utahās pouncing on one argentinosaurus
its like saying imagine 10 oxpeckers on a giraffe
hexed badger
Yeah
nova anchor
patagotitan :)
vale pawn
have all of them
paper oriole
I can smell that smell, that smelly smell of someone upvoting their own suggestion
vale pawn
hexed badger
Imagine downvoting your own suggestion
paper oriole
The chaotic energy is strong with this one
paper oriole
I know, edit the suggestion and put the rest of the reaction emojis at the bottom
Big brain solution
hybrid matrix
vale pawn
valid elk
Dunno why people are ā and ā²ļø when the devs haven't shown the wings of animals like Utahraptor.
It's odd, they don't even tag me.
deep jetty
feather options are pretty much confirmed tho, & we havent seen anything showing how feathers will look yet, so all we can do is wait really
idk about the Xs tho...
valid elk
It is odd, no?
deep jetty
the Xs yea a bit, but the time reactions make sense
valid elk
I am just giving my opinion. Austroraptors wings are...well, you know.
urban flax
"No ! Feathers should look artificially implemented into the skin, that looks much better ! I hate feathered dinos btw"
urban flax
What a beautiful alien
quartz lantern
@hollow magnet that can be fixed in your settings for the server. To mute all @ everyone
paper oriole
Terrasaurs
lofty pagoda
waterfalls š±
barren zephyr
@lofty pagoda
lofty pagoda
x
paper oriole
Didnt thenyaw have a waterfall similar to that
dapper pulsar
I think basing regular dinos off of regular dinos works because dinos already hit peak cool.
You can only go cool in different directions when making strains.
hybrid matrix
i mean if you change it to "I think niche animals should spawn in their biomes" then it works
kinda
mystic pewter
I meant like
If certain animals were limited to some maps maybe it could be cool
hexed badger
Maybe have a recommendation where to spawn when you select a certain species?
mystic pewter
i mean if you change it to "I think niche animals should spawn in their biomes" ...
Idk man I just had an idea
valid elk
@golden iron Why put a timer? Iguanodon isn't confirmed at all.
golden iron
like there can be a map with no swamp, maybe more of a cave map and you wouldn't be able to play deino or some aquatic dinos
well, with time we'll know what they're gonna add
mystic pewter
like there can be a map with no swamp, maybe more of a cave map and you wouldn't...
What I meant
valid elk
...Not Iggy?
golden iron
never know
mystic pewter
Like Spiro is much more tropical than other maps that have been released
And tbh I like that it makes Spiro feel more unique
Maybe we could have a more tropical animal exclusive to Spiro when new maps are released?
And by the tropical things, I'm not saying we shouldn't have diffrent biomes on spiro
Not at all
I'm just saying like
A snowy pine forest would be kinda weird right next to current spiro
hybrid matrix
my opinion on iguanodon is that they should add it in, but not yet
ooh
i just had an idea
hybrid matrix
arent certain hadrosaurs known for their megaherds?
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
iguanodon is one of them
valid elk
Iguanodon isn't a Hadrosaur.
mystic pewter
Ye I was about to say
hybrid matrix
oh shit
mystic pewter
There related but
valid elk
Iguanodon is an Iguanodontid, like Tenontosaurus.
hybrid matrix
ok well its the same build of dinosaur
valid elk
Baryonyx hunted Iguanodontids.
mystic pewter
ok well its the same build of dinosaur
Ye
edgy hamlet
As long as we dont get Disneys dinosaur aka PoT iguanodon sure, go add it dawndi
mystic pewter
Idk I like the niche of Iguanodon being a more combat focused Ankylopollexian
hybrid matrix
anyway, iguanodon could have rlly shitty turn and no rear attacks, forcing them to join up with other members of their species for protection
valid elk
It has a great turn though
hybrid matrix
well can u think of any other ways to get iguanodons to make their famous mega herds?
valid elk
By...letting players herd up naturally, like we always do?
hybrid matrix
yea but wut about ways to encourage them to group up
mystic pewter
Idk what else to call them but
hybrid matrix
it has to have some kind of weakness that makes it want to group up for protection
valid elk
They're tough but they can't take on groups or the big guys, so that would be a more natural way of making them group up
mystic pewter
Personally having a more combat focused Ankylopollexian would be cool
Iguanodon fits that
Its weakness could be speed
hybrid matrix
They're tough but they can't take on groups or the big guys, so that would be a ...
yeah but ppl r stupid so they would be like "aw yeah im super good at the game, i can take on this group of 3 gigas with my FUCKING IGUANODON"
valid elk
Also, Tenontosaurus gets its ass beat by a ton of animals and plays differently, don't put "Teno" under Iguanodon
mystic pewter
People will always be like that
hybrid matrix
ooh
valid elk
With Evrima, if you're dumb, you die.
hybrid matrix
if iguano has a longer grow time, maybe the ppl who play as it would grp together so that their time doesnt get wasted?
valid elk
Sure, why not
hybrid matrix
wut about stego grow time?
mystic pewter
I mean maybe longer grow time compared to herbs
Herbs need to have shorter grow times overall
Gives people incentive to play
safe galleon
Players will naturally group up, and those who donāt donāt
Giving it a needlessly long growth time just to make them group feels like torture
edgy hamlet
tbh i like the growth aspect on herbs more than on carnis, especially when the diet system will come out
hybrid matrix
i mean stego grow time would make sense for iguanodon since it is a tiny bit bigger than stego
hybrid matrix
Giving it a needlessly long growth time just to make them group feels like tortu...
5 hours makes sense given how large iguanodon is
valid elk
Iguanodon is a large animal.
hybrid matrix
stego has the same grow time
hybrid matrix
But thats apex grow time
in legacy, we're talking about evrima
edgy hamlet
Apex growth time is 6-8 hours, might be even more in evrima
valid elk
Also, why do people put timers, Iguanodon has never been confirmed
mystic pewter
JESUS
hybrid matrix
JESUS
deino is supposed to take 24 hours to get to full adult
so tbh 48 hours might be a little small
mystic pewter
so tbh 48 hours might be a little small
SMALL
edgy hamlet
apex grow time in evrima is like 48 hours
eek that got slapped out again tho, they wanted that for deino but changed their minds luckily
safe galleon
Giving stats/timers to unconfirmed creatures is useless, gotta work out the basic mechanics first
hybrid matrix
eek that got slapped out again tho, they wanted that for deino but changed their...
deino is gonna take 24 hours to grow, right?
safe galleon
No?
golden iron
better fekin not
hybrid matrix
well it can fit a WHOLE ASS STEGO IN ITS MOUTH
edgy hamlet
deino is gonna take 24 hours to grow, right?
nahaha im very sure it wont, devs also didnt decide the growth yet, but 24 hours will just get them hated by everyone lol
hybrid matrix
I THINK ITS GONNA TAKE A WHILE TO GROW
golden iron
thats still a wip, it wont be as easy to grab a stego
safe galleon
edgy hamlet
a long while yeah, but errr not 24 hours
golden iron
edgy hamlet
Deino was supposed to have infinite growth and take 48 hours, but that got completely scrapped
mystic pewter
Thats too long
I dont wanna take a week of my life to grow something that'll inevitably die soon
hybrid matrix
thats still a wip, it wont be as easy to grab a stego
i know, but im saying that its mouth is so big, that it could fit a stego
if deino takes 7 or more hours to grow then i will be happy
its massive
valid elk
"Yes, let me say Tenonto is like Iguanodon, even though these two animals are different."
mystic pewter
deino should take a long time, 24 hours got scrapped tho
Ye
hybrid matrix
alr well if we rlly want to make a good argument for why iguanodon should get added, lets get talking
safe galleon
mhm
hybrid matrix
what should we talk about first?
edgy hamlet
im interested.
hybrid matrix
niche
valid elk
Iguanodon is a wrestler. It doesn't slash at you, it shanks you and backhands the absolute shit outta you. Not even Tenonto does that
mystic pewter
alr well if we rlly want to make a good argument for why iguanodon should get ad...
It would be an interesting variation of the typical Ankylopollexian model, as it would be more combat focused
mystic pewter
it could be like a bull
Ye
hybrid matrix
a strong, moderately fast front fighter
hybrid matrix
lmao
valid elk
Offensive and defensive, bulky and speedy pseudo apex.
hybrid matrix
ok but wut animal could we compare it to
hybrid matrix
well its gotta be something that makes sense
edgy hamlet
From the arguments right now without looking at the thumb thing iguanodon would be rather like shant with its niche, maybe make it a little more unique
hybrid matrix
u cant say it could fill the monkey niche and be a tree climber
maybe instead of a bull it could be like a horse
actually teno is already like a horse
valid elk
I actually think elephant would be the best way to describe Shant, where as Iguanodon is more like a water buffalo.
edgy hamlet
overall iguanodon would be like a mix between teno and maia i suppose
mystic pewter
I actually think elephant would be the best way to describe Shant, where as Igua...
^^^^
valid elk
Bison, there you go.
hybrid matrix
alr its a bison then
valid elk
Yeah, Iguanodon bison. Fast, strong, bulky.
edgy hamlet
Now why add it to the game maybe?
mystic pewter
Whats its weakness?
hybrid matrix
what about.... mechanics that could be unique to igunodon?
mystic pewter
Now why add it to the game maybe?
Its unique among the Ankylopollexian by being combat effective
valid elk
Nothing takes its niche...except maybe Pachyrhino, but they eat different things.
edgy hamlet
weakness would probs be when it gets caught by a bigger carni off-guard since it cant run and cant get into an defensice pose
hybrid matrix
well what about mechanics that are unique to it
valid elk
Tenontosaurus is tough, but Utahraptor can kill it. Iguanodon can take on like...Allosaurus or even larger
I think it could defensively take on Albertosaurus.
valid elk
It has a massive thumb claw and strong forearms, and its back legs are perfect for handling its weight. So, it could stand on all fours and slash enemies, or stand on its two legs and give more powerful swipes
edgy hamlet
his thumb would probably cause a lot of bleed
valid elk
So it can slash, stab, or...well, slap enemies with its paws if it doesn't wanna cause bleed.
hybrid matrix
if u get within range and then spam right click u tackle ur opponent and cause some initial impact damage, and then if u keep right clicking, u stab the enemy a bunch of times, but this can completely drain ur stamina if ur not careful
valid elk
Why not
hybrid matrix
?
mystic pewter
Hmm
valid elk
I mean, sure, it could tackle, or just stand on its hind legs and slap/slash
Ooh, it could be adaptive, eating bushes and trees. Since it can go quad or bi, it can take on different foods
hybrid matrix
well if u get tackled by an iguanodon then u can "buck"
eh i like the bush and tree eater mechanic better
edgy hamlet
basically iguanodon would be the herbi-variant of allo, not op, still pretty good, so basically something everyone likes to play, but with a long growth time because of his size and strength
hybrid matrix
alr so the unique mechanic is that it can eat bushes and tree leaves
so wut is a reason to not add iguanodon
edgy hamlet
devs opinion would be "we already have maia" which rather is a fleeing animal except they change it
valid elk
...None?
edgy hamlet
iguanodon would be unique, it would be something new and people would like it lol
valid elk
Actually, the only animal like it is Tenontosaurus, and...its only in quad walking and hand attacks, that's it
hybrid matrix
ima ask in #401464048610312195 if anyone can come up with a reason to not add iguanodon
edgy hamlet
good idea actually
hybrid matrix
alr so we have a reason not to add it, wut should we discuss next?
edgy hamlet
so there isnt really a reason to not add it which is pretty rare
hybrid matrix
^
ummmm
we have a niche, a unique ability, and a reason not to add it
i wanna do stats last
valid elk
Actually, the only reason I think they qouldn't add it is because Dinosauriac didn't want it.
strange wave
@valid elk you might want to include how big it is, many people are comparing it to tenonto in size
hybrid matrix
its like stego height
valid elk
Oh, right, anyone got a good size?
hybrid matrix
its a little taller than stego, and about as long as stego
strange wave
its like stego height
edgy hamlet
Oh, right, anyone got a good size?
gets prehistoric wildlife picture
valid elk
Thanks
strange wave
in game stego is accurate size though derp
hybrid matrix
in game stego is accurate size though derp
its not long enough i think
i heard somewhere its not long enough compared to utahraptor
alr anyway
strange wave
doctor nova uses the most up to date research to size the animals in the isle, he says its accurate, its accurate
hybrid matrix
ok
but thats besides the point
wut else do we need apart from stats?
grow time?
edgy hamlet
my dog was eating my table, im back now
hybrid matrix
i mean 5 to 5 1/2 hours is perfectly reasonable given its size
strange wave
grow time?
abilities
edgy hamlet
since iguanodon would probs be fairly strong it should have a longer growth time i guess
edgy hamlet
i mean 5 to 5 1/2 hours is perfectly reasonable given its size
yeah seems fair
strange wave
and a place in the game different to currently existing animals, like shant, para, and theri
hybrid matrix
alr lemme show u wut we have already
hybrid matrix
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Bison niche
Can eat bushes and fruits/leaves from trees
Literally no reason to not add it
valid elk
I mean...hrm...
edgy hamlet
shant would basically be strong throughout the size itsself, para would rather flee, theri is pretty fragile if not slapping someone with its claws i guess
strange wave
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Bison niche
Can eat bushes and fruits/leaves from tree...
bison tf
what about iguanodon says bison?
hybrid matrix
edgy hamlet
i mean i still want a big herb with semi-aquatic niche if we dont get cheirus but seems odd for iguanodon
hybrid matrix
that'll take u to how we got to Bison iguanodon
strange wave
so you want iguanodon to be an open prairies grazing animal that relies on its head to get through most obstacles?
comparing hadrosaurs to cows is dumb
valid elk
Oh, right, my bad
hybrid matrix
well wut would u compare it to?
strange wave
the best comparison i could give to it is probably something like a large elk, big animal that has a go anywhere attitude, cant really compare its attacks to anything, but in niche in the environment its similar to an elk
strange wave
iguanodon is an elk where para is a caribou
hybrid matrix
iguanodon is an elk where para is a caribou
rlly? para isnt a deer?
strange wave
no not really
hybrid matrix
alr we're getting off topic tho
strange wave
deer dont migrate in large herds
hybrid matrix
wut other unique abilites could it have other than being able to eat bushes and tree foods
strange wave
sucker punch, and a form of grab using its massive tree trunk arms + the ability to go into both quad and biped stances, allowing for different moves and getting different food
edgy hamlet
so his abilities would be kinda kangoroo like i guess
hybrid matrix
so basically it can do quadropedal attacks, and bipedal attacks, eat quadropedally, and eat bipedally?
paper oriole
Para should daze in an AOE with his 3 call as well as having running shoulder checks to shake off flankers. CC master
hybrid matrix
we're talking about iguanodon tho
paper oriole
Ah shid ya
hybrid matrix
this is wut i have rn
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
edgy hamlet
plus its unique and viable
paper oriole
I mean its a famous and relatively unique brawler herbivore so definitely
valid elk
Not to mention that it could attack on fours and twos
hybrid matrix
Not to mention that it could attack on fours and twos
i put that down already
"Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet"
valid elk
Oh, my bad
hybrid matrix
its fine
edgy hamlet
except the devs will make maia a thicc brawler instead of a fleeing animal iguanodon would pretty much be completely unique
paper oriole
Maia a brawler
hybrid matrix
well wut else should we add apart from stats?
edgy hamlet
Maia a brawler <:TI_Yikes:464844598494101505>
big yikes
paper oriole
Keep speedcow
valid elk
Perhaps Iguanodon should have loud calls?
hybrid matrix
we have the niche, a unique ability, and no reasons to not add it
hybrid matrix
Perhaps Iguanodon should have loud calls?
why?
i mean its a big animal, of course it's loud
paper oriole
Iguana could probably grip and shake trees easily to make fruit fall
hybrid matrix
we have that already
paper oriole
Shid
edgy hamlet
shaking trees sounds interesting
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
i think all thats left is stats
strange wave
maia cant grapple or sucker punch like ig
mystic pewter
Herreras counter lol
valid elk
I mean, when you think of herd animals, they are usually very loud. Elephants, cow, elk, zebras, buffalo, etc etc etc
arctic nimbus
Raw stats alone can differentiate iguanadon from other animals, so I have no idea why people reacted with "TENO"
hybrid matrix
I mean, when you think of herd animals, they are usually very loud. Elephants, c...
makes sense, but its a large dinosaur anyway
valid elk
That's true
hybrid matrix
its gonna be loud no matter wut
ok so yea all thats left is the stats
wut should the growth time be>
?*
hybrid matrix
its bigger than stego tho
valid elk
I was thinking 5.
hybrid matrix
i think it should be 5 hours
lilac swallow
iguano is definitely in stego's range
hybrid matrix
or maybe even 5 and a half
mystic pewter
4 and a half hours maye
strange wave
its bigger than stego tho
its taller, not larger, and unlike stego it cannot fight apexes, and doesnt have to
edgy hamlet
5+ id say since it would be a pretty strong dinosaur with many abilities
hybrid matrix
its taller, not larger, and unlike stego it cannot fight apexes, and doesnt have...
true
valid elk
True. 4 hours and 30 minutes to 5 hours.
mystic pewter
What's with people and asking for longer dino growth times as a whole
mystic pewter
Like I get apexes that obvious
edgy hamlet
i can see iguanodon as the biggest mid-tier herbi so it should take fairly long
mystic pewter
Something that powerful deserves long time
valid elk
If not pseudo apex
lilac swallow
iguano is perfectly the herbi sucho
hybrid matrix
honestly i think 5 hours is perfect
strange wave
i can see iguanodon as the biggest mid-tier herbi so it should take fairly long
4.5 because, its not as strong as the 5 hour stego
strange wave
iguano is perfectly the herbi sucho
no, bad
hybrid matrix
4.5 because, its not *as* strong as the 5 hour stego
yeah but its fast, and its got a large diet
mystic pewter
iguano is perfectly the herbi sucho
Ye kinda
strange wave
when did we discuss diets?
valid elk
"Herbi Sucho." That is a super bad example
lilac swallow
in terms of size, obviously
strange wave
yes in size, not anything similar in niche, no swamp iggy
lilac swallow
im obvioulsy not saying its going to swim and eat fish
mystic pewter
Ye he meant as in scale and it's power position
hybrid matrix
ok so 5 hour grow time
mystic pewter
There both pseudo apexes
strange wave
ok so 5 hour grow time
4 hours 45, again, not as strong as stego
hybrid matrix
now we should talk about weight and health
mystic pewter
4 hours 45, again, not as strong as stego
^^^^^
steady lintel
@hybrid matrix where do you find high priority bug fixes?
valid elk
I do like that we all do agree Iggy would make a great playable. I can't think of any like...downsides to the animal.
hybrid matrix
<@!662789651102302238> where do you find high priority bug fixes?
no im saying they already plan to do bug fixes after the update
edgy hamlet
nobody can really disagree so
steady lintel
oh okay
lilac swallow
galli isnt as strong as utah but grows at the same time, because its also way faster, strength is not the only reason a dino grows slower
strange wave
iguanodon is at around 4-5 tons metric, compared to stego at 6 tons
hybrid matrix
iguanodon is at around 4-5 tons metric, compared to stego at 6 tons
its 6 tons in game? i thought it was 5
strange wave
its 6 tons in game? i thought it was 5
current in game weights do not matter, their being fixed soon
hybrid matrix
current in game weights do not matter, their being fixed soon
ok
mystic pewter
iguanodon is at around 4-5 tons metric, compared to stego at 6 tons
Ye
Iqqy still C H O N K Y boi but
valid elk
It can fight, it can run, its big and bulky.
hybrid matrix
wut about 4.5 tons for iguanodon, that way its chonky, but not so chonky that it's still fast
mystic pewter
What's its weakness
mystic pewter
I mean kinda but
edgy hamlet
Getting caught off-guard would be a deathsentence if its an apex or acro-sized
mystic pewter
All dinos have a weakness
valid elk
Can't take on larger carnivores and has to look out for groups of animals when alone
hybrid matrix
Getting caught off-guard would be a deathsentence if its an apex or acro-sized
that goes for everything
ooh
wait
mystic pewter
Carno is fast and extremely powerful
But it turns like a god damn bus
Power, and weakness
valid elk
Iguanodon is four legged or two legged, so its fast but not super fast.
hybrid matrix
if its 4.5 tons then that means it has to watch out for larger carnivores, meaning that alone, if its not paying attention, then its in danger
strange wave
iguanodon is a brawler animal, but struggles against things its size and above, while its arms pack a punch, its not enough to deter an acro for very long
valid elk
Exactly
edgy hamlet
that goes for everything
sure does, but it would be worse for iguanodon than for some other herbis since it probably is pretty vulnerable when it gets hit like on the belly or something
hybrid matrix
yeah so its weakness is that its useless against anything larger than it if its alone
mystic pewter
Maybe less bleed resistance?
Ehhh idk
Cerato had that
And it didn't do much but make it irrelevant
Besides the fact they made it a watered down allo
hybrid matrix
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
4 3/4 hour grow time
valid elk
Except that it hunts crocodilians
mystic pewter
Ye sounds good
valid elk
Around, yeah.
strange wave
tf no
hybrid matrix
i have no clue how the health system works
strange wave
its weight is 4.5 tons, health isnt weight, dont focus on exact stats
hybrid matrix
someone told me that health is equal to weight
valid elk
It should be tanky but not too tanky.
hybrid matrix
and now im confused
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
so wut should its health be
edgy hamlet
someone told me that health is equal to weight
hybrid matrix
<:TI_Yikes:464844598494101505>
i was lied to, how is that my fault?
valid elk
Basically it can take on Acro, but not for long and needs to run after smacking its head a few times
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
ok but how much health?
edgy hamlet
i was lied to, how is that *my* fault?
just yikesing on the people spreading that misinformation since years
hybrid matrix
just yikesing on the people spreading that misinformation since years<:TI_Succ:4...
i kno i was kidding
i understood it was a joke
edgy hamlet
i kno i was kidding
i understood it was a joke
but what if mine wasnt a joke
mystic pewter
ok but how much health?
Idk how health works either lol
hybrid matrix
but what if mine wasnt a joke<:TI_dondiSmile:588126306743353521>
i asked in #401464048610312195 wut stego health was
edgy hamlet
ill never know how health works and ill never learn it, wont do that to myself lol
hybrid matrix
alr i asked and they responded with "idk"
mystic pewter
Such insight lol
hybrid matrix
hold on
we may figure it out tho
getting an answer rn
couldnt find anything
soo
uhh
guys r u still here?
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
ok so wut should we make the health
hybrid matrix
i mean running speed
mystic pewter
Ye I know
hybrid matrix
@edgy hamlet @valid elk
cmon
mystic pewter
I mean
hybrid matrix
stego runs at 25 kph
edgy hamlet
<@!385896291554689025> <@!401819017519824897>
cmon
edgy hamlet
aslong as its fast enough to espace from apexes
hybrid matrix
hmmm
how fast is teno>
it should be almost as fast as teno
it should be slower than 45 kph
wut about 40 kph?
guys
did u leave
:(
valid elk
Sorry! Making lunch
hybrid matrix
ah
hybrid matrix
ohhhh ok
hybrid matrix
teno is 45 kph
hybrid matrix
wut about 37
mystic pewter
The point of iqqy is that's it's more combat based
It should be slower
Not s l o w
But not teno
hybrid matrix
ik, thats y im saying 37-38
hybrid matrix
by that logic 35 is also pretty close to 45
mystic pewter
It's 10 apart
hybrid matrix
and 37 is 8 apart
mystic pewter
Fine
hybrid matrix
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is 37 kph
lets do attacks
wut should the left click attack be
hybrid matrix
also dont forget we gotta do quadrupedal and bipedal attacks
mystic pewter
Ok
hybrid matrix
lets do bipedal first
mystic pewter
Bipedal left is thumb jab
hybrid matrix
ok
and wut about bipedal right click
actually instead of a jab, it should be a hook
a jab is straight out
mystic pewter
Hmm
mystic pewter
Oooooooo
hybrid matrix
boxing bunch
mystic pewter
hybrid matrix
yee
wait
punch should be left click
that way it can be spammed but not do a whole lot of damage
hybrid matrix
and jab should be right click bc right click attacks r stronger
i mean hook not jab
hybrid matrix
ok so bipedal left click is punch and bipedal right click is thumb hook
hybrid matrix
ok so we figure out how much dmg each attack does later?
hybrid matrix
ok
quadropedal left click should be bite
and then quad right click could be like a shoulder tackle
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
ok
valid elk
I was thinking a slash.
hybrid matrix
shouldnt a slash be a bipedal attack?
and also isnt that kinda wut the hook attack is?
valid elk
Ooh, or a stab.
Just shank them and a shoulder bash, bipedal should be a slash and punch/slap
hybrid matrix
hang on
dapper pulsar
Neck snap
hybrid matrix
this is wut i have down so far
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is 37 kph
Bipedal left click is punch and Bipedal right click is thumb hook
Quadropedal left click is bite and Quadropedal right click is shoulder thrust
mystic pewter
#Iguanadonforsmash
hybrid matrix
ooh
wait
wut about quad right click is thumb thrust
it thrusts forward, thumbs first
mystic pewter
I've been spelling iggy has iqqy for so long
My brain must have died lol
I q u a n a lol
mystic pewter
Hmmm
hybrid matrix
sounds stupid but rlly its better than shoulder bash isnt it
hybrid matrix
also magy is gonna have that
mystic pewter
Hmm
hybrid matrix
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is 37 kph
Bipedal left click is punch and Bipedal right click is thumb hook
Quadropedal left click is bite and Quadropedal right click is thumb thrust
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
hook should be 150 N with 10 bleed
bite should do 75 N and no bleed
and thumb thrust should do 500 N with 20 bleed
now remember
punch can be spammed
and hook also has a pretty good attack rate
mystic pewter
Ye
hybrid matrix
ok so punch is 3 attacks per second
and hook is 1 attack per second
bite is 2 attacks per second
and thumb thrust is 1 attack per 3 seconds
is that ok?
hybrid matrix
this is wut i have
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is 37 kph
Bipedal left click is punch and Bipedal right click is thumb hook
Quadropedal left click is bite and Quadropedal right click is thumb thrust
Punch - 100 N no bleed 3 attacks per second
Hook - 150 N 10 bleed 2 attacks per second
Bite - 75 N no bleed 2 attacks per second
Thrust - 500 N 20 bleed 1 attack per 3 seconds
so all we need now is health hunger/thirst drain and stamina drain
i gtg eat dinner
dense wagon
sounds like tenonto but with only front facing attacks
being a biped and a quadruped isn't a niche, it's a gimmick
all it does is change the animation
from the reasons that you listed i wouldn't add iguano, at least not until the isle is at a point where it can add playables just for the 'why not' factor
valid elk
@dense wagon No, no, bipedal and quad walking changes up attacks and food choices, not just "haha, das cool"
There's like an actual reason for it.
dense wagon
fair point
but a change in attack doesn't change the fact that it's the exact same playstyle as teno
a variety in diet doesn't change much but it's something i guess
hybrid matrix
its not the same playstyle as teno tho
strange wave
fair point
but a change in attack doesn't change the fact that it's the exact sa...
do kentro and stego have the same playstyle?
dense wagon
kentro is way more maneuverable and quick, as shown by tap's dossier
stego is a slow, heavy hitter
strange wave
great, you just listed the difference between tenonto and iguanodon
hybrid matrix
lmao
strange wave
dapper pulsar
Isn't the difference between Bary and Sucho also size and the things that come with?
dense wagon
iguano can run fast on two legs, they are similar but seeing how drastic the size difference is, probably not
yes the same is true for bary and sucho but that may change with evrima
but yall have a point
also why is there only one bone in that reconstruction
strange wave
because that is the only bone known of the current largest iguanodon
dapper pulsar
Good
hybrid matrix
rq, wut do u think iggy health should be?
dapper pulsar
My current hatred of it is just.
strange wave
rq, wut do u think iggy health should be?
stop trying to put exact stats
hybrid matrix
stop trying to put exact stats
fine
dapper pulsar
Just do what I do with my creature ideas and just say high, low, or moderate
that way people have to agree with you
hybrid matrix
is this good?
Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
Roughly 4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs roughly 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is roughly 37 kph
Bipedal left click is punch and Bipedal right click is thumb hook
Quadropedal left click is bite and Quadropedal right click is thumb thrust
Punch - 100 N no bleed 3 attacks per second
Hook - 150 N 10 bleed 2 attacks per second
Bite - 75 N no bleed 2 attacks per second
Thrust - 500 N 20 bleed 1 attack per 3 seconds
strange wave
stop
hybrid matrix
lmao
valid elk
Sounds alright
hybrid matrix
alr ima post it as a suggestion in a nicer format
valid elk
Do it with the size picture
dense wagon
yeah i'd advise that
hybrid matrix
this might take up multiple messages so i'll add the size picture when im done
strange wave
dont listen to rick, its rick
brave rampart
Shush cera main
strange wave
this might take up multiple messages so i'll add the size picture when im done
doubtful
strange wave
dont use the format that you have been using, instead of bluntly listing ideas we've had for it, pick out the best and explain them in more detail
dapper pulsar
I've contributed all I can
strange wave
introduce the idea and the creature, give an analog to its niche and its tier in the ecosystem of the island
then you start listing its abilities, using combat first other second
dapper pulsar
Sketches are always nice
hybrid matrix
ok thanks bork
strange wave
sketches arent needed
hybrid matrix
introduce the idea and the creature, give an analog to its niche and its tier in...
it says analog
strange wave
like, compare it to an elk and such
strange wave
ig
hybrid matrix
alr
hybrid matrix
bork wuts wrong with it
bork y dont u like it
@strange wave why dont u like it?? š„ŗ
strange wave
hybrid matrix
yeah so?
strange wave
strange wave
seems pretty exact to me
hybrid matrix
We decided that its weight should be between 4 and 5 tons. Now, while it is heavy, it has strong legs, allowing it a brisk, 37 kph sprint speed (subject to change), ensuring its safety from apexes.
besides, nobody has āed the suggestion yet
dapper pulsar
They should at least go all in.
frail pivot
Kentro should be able to spike and carry smaller dinos on their shoulders like in ark survival evolved
paper oriole
Dinos like kentros and stegos should get gore buildup on their spikes and thags that can give their enemies infections
If they dont get too wet or wallow
frail pivot
Dinos like kentros and stegos should get gore buildup on their spikes and thags ...
If the damage is quite fatal yes
paper oriole
Yeah like if they impaled a utah and dont wash the raptor juice off their spikes
dapper pulsar
Kentro should be able to carry things on it's spikes in a less aggressive way
like let small animals hitch a ride on them.
paper oriole
Idk if theres anything small enough to comfortably perch on kentro's spikes
dapper pulsar
I could see Hypsi resting near the base
also who cares about a Kentro's feelings
they can't protest
paper oriole
He could be a juvie taxi lol
dapper pulsar
they can't talk
I'd like it if animals could stand on one another in general, but I feel that'd lead to a lot of care bearing.
paper oriole
Thered need to be a reliable way to balance it out ya
dapper pulsar
Maybe just give it to Anky
Being slow and weak your entire life might make you resent most things
paper oriole
Options like peacefully ejecting or rejecting passangers eithout wasting stam. Ways to counterbalance carrying so it isnt totally convenient to the carrier to protect other species
dapper pulsar
Small and light weight animals wouldn't do much, but a Juvie Apex would take up extra stam
paper oriole
Though some specific animals being in symbiotic relationships wouldnt hurt
paper oriole
Cart titan anky
paper oriole
Maybe only certain animals can accept passengers, or only accept a limited selection of passengers
dapper pulsar
Oh I was just thinking like standing on a car in a modern open world game
paper oriole
Idk how hard such a thing would be for them to add after looking at utah pounce
Which is a socket mechanic
dapper pulsar
They've already taken the first few steps
You can no longer walk through dinosaurs, now you just gotta allow them to take an alternative route of walking on 'em.
I think it'd take a while, but it would be worth it
Just imagine all the situations where you escape being murdered by just walking on top of an Anky
paper oriole
Of course stego is going to be āmuch more strongerā already since it's like 5 or 6 times kentro's size lmao
paper oriole
@frail pivot they don't want to give herbis any strains (or anything cool in general lol)
paper oriole
idk i guess they dont think it would make sense for them. i'm sure a modder who cares about herbis more than the dev team will bless us with some herbi strains some day though ):
frail pivot
Once herbs and carns are equal in strength then beaver can do battle royals on YouTube
paper oriole
IMO an herbi exclusive strain connected to the strain plants would be a good way to go
If hyperendocrin was reserved for carnis and this unique strain was reserved for herbis
dapper pulsar
I think it's funny to apply these choices in the lore.
"Well, it didn't really work on Mosasaurs, but what if we made Spinosaurus land based? I'm sure that's the key to making the perfect life form or whatever we're doing."
"Should we try applying the strains to any herbivores? It feels counter intuitive to only use these on animals that primarily eat meat."
"No. We need to budget ourselves so we can finish the Hyperendocrin Compsognathus. This'll be the one to destroy those Phoenix Corp jack offs."
paper oriole
Lmao ikr, they probably usin lore as an excuse just because they dont wanna add them
I have a hard time believing those mad scientists wouldn't look at anky, trike, etc and go āyeah letās turn it into a weaponā
paper oriole
Oh god imagine a hyper brachi that thing would destroy itself so fast but goddamn if it wouldn't be beautiful to see lol
dapper pulsar
Actually if it walks on a decline it's legs would snap
paper oriole
Tissos and neuros could work on herbis but hypers idk, would be nice for each faction to share teo strains and then have one to themselves
dapper pulsar
The Tisso Herbi fan art by Tapwing gives me life.
paper oriole
Here is the option of making hyper herbis go omni or carni out of desperation for nutrients they can't get fast enough from plants
dapper pulsar
Herbivores going bad is a lot scarier than just a carni
paper oriole
Ugh ues tap's herbi strain concepts are so great but so sad we're very unlikely to see them come to light
dapper pulsar
A Shant going feral and hunting down a Rex family would be horrifying.
paper oriole
Yeah imagine a herd member just starting to lose its shit like the brachi in primal and murderize its herd mates
paper oriole
Plus the desperate herbis would probably put you down in a much more brutal and messy fashion than animals evolved to eat meat
paper oriole
Many of them lacking the crushing or slicing jaws, you would be trampled or gnawed apart slowly, impaled or crushed by what are usually defensive measures, sliced in half by a sauropod's tail
Lot more horrifying than āoh no that hyper rex is gonna crunch me in one biteā
dapper pulsar
It's also scarier because herbivores usually seem a lot more innocent.