I deleted it, it's getting ridiculous. Krayt stop.
#general-feedback-discussion
tepid gate
Yea, you guys can really be overbearing when you disagree with someone's feedback. I generally don't think the game should allow much chilling per se but it is definitely a possibility and can be done in Evrima, it just that it takes a couple of factors to be present for that to be possible.
cyan flame
I deleted it, it's getting ridiculous. Krayt stop.
Anyway, even as it stands right now, you can chill decently in Evrima if you have grown dinos, a good area, and know how to handle yourselves if something wants to fight you. There's some viable ways, so you could try it out and bring your friends over, see how it goes.
tepid gate
^
paper oriole
Bambiraptor is unique for his flexible wrists if im remembering right, but that means nothing in the isle after utahraptor lol. So basically bambi is just a compy clone
barren zephyr
yeah
tepid gate
Yea, you need some experience, Evrima is kind of like Legacy but different, you need to pour quite some hours into it to be able to grasp it fully but you can technically chill in Evrima just as much as you did in the legacy
barren zephyr
but more like a velo as well
paper oriole
Pretty sure hes more compy sized, so basically midget velo
still raptor
Rock, if he doesn't bring anything new to the game, why add it?
If you gave it a unique niche and abilities and convince me that it should be in the game, I'll happily agree with your suggestion.
paper oriole
Dinos cost thousands of dollars to model, rig, add sounds and abilities so they gotta have some utility and purpose
quartz lantern
Essentially, if it doesn't add anything to the game, it's likely not going to be considered sadly
hybrid matrix
only thing i can think of is maybe it could replace the 2d birds that fly away when u roar
but
maybe we can just have better looking birds added eventually
maiden anvil
Thank you guys for your respond. Now I know why it wouldn’t be good to have sexual size differences 🙂
barren zephyr
Thank you guys for your respond. Now I know why it wouldn’t be good to have sexu...
People generally answer here to contradict our ideas. Don't take seriously a few answers out of thousands of people who would agree with you.
hybrid matrix
People generally answer here to contradict our ideas. Don't take seriously a few...
dude if u cant take criticism then dont post feedback
feral wedge
Keep conversation civil or I'll remove you from it.
barren zephyr
dude if u cant take criticism then dont post feedback
Don't you have something else to do?
feral wedge
@barren zephyr I'm not keen about second warnings.
barren zephyr
🙄
quartz lantern
@barren zephyr I do agree with this heavily
But I also think some dinos, deino, shouldn't have lips.
hybrid matrix
yea bc crocs dont have lips irl
quartz lantern
Correct
still raptor
I partially agree with that dinosaurs should have lips but again, this game is heavily stylized and it should be like that for the uniqueness in animal design.
But many dinos that we have now already have lips.
feral wedge
But I also think some dinos, deino, shouldn't have lips.
"Some dinos, not dino" 
quartz lantern
Many creatures in water don't even close their mouths so their teeth are always exposed.
still raptor
LOL
quartz lantern
@feral wedge hush your face Gar 😂
feral wedge
Not even a good dino nerd smh.
quartz lantern
You know what I meant
still raptor
Ikr
quartz lantern
hybrid matrix
silver zephyr
quartz lantern
I think dinos having like 'pockets' for teeth to sit in, is a good idea. Similar to how puppies bottom canines go into the roof of their mouth.
still raptor
But animals like Acro (as you mentioned), Utah, Giga has lips but it's hard to tell from the way the model is. I do think we should have lipped tyrannosaurids like Alberto and Rex.
barren zephyr
But I also think some dinos, deino, shouldn't have lips.
ofc, deino shouldn't, but it's not a dinosaur
barren zephyr
hybrid matrix
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safe galleon
I mean... white is a bright color 
@night sand that's the point
or well, I should say nub
night sand
paper oriole
Pinhead ptera
hybrid matrix
or well, I should say nub
tepid gate
@maiden anvil You might be not aware of it but sizes do affect certain stats in the game. E.g. if you increase the size of the model it automatically increases the stride length of an animal making it so that the aforementioned playable moves faster. This is especially visible in case of Acrocanthosaurus in the legacy. Its size is bugged resulting in a larger model. This makes Acrocanthosaurus ridiculously fast, capable of running as fast as a Utahraptor which is ~1/5th of its weight.
While there are some ways to counteract it the larger size also affects other things e.g. making your hitboxes and bitesockets larger. These also heavily impact the balance. It would make balancing the game extremely difficult and would almost certainly result in one sex being more viable than the other in one way or another.
Is this a sensible enough reasoning for why making the two sexes have different sizes while having the same stats is a bad idea? I can further explain the argument if you'd like me to.
tepid gate
Yis, the dinosaur isn't meant to be larger than Rex and Giga and no it hasn't always been that large. If you look at some older videos you will see that it was smaller before.
barren zephyr
Interesting, I never knew that
tepid gate
It was so long ago though that you'd probably not even remember that - hell it's been bugged since I started to play the game and I know it's bugged only because people told me about it and because I was shown how large it was initially.
barren zephyr
Makes sense with it's stats are so weak compared to other apexes, surely the devs wouldn't make it larger than a rex and give it the stats of an allosaurus.
tepid gate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQdO4rskK8U
This is some old video where you can see the size difference between Giga and Acro from before Acro's model went all hakuna matata.
pure eagle
@urban flax I feel like dryo should have this ability, rex doesn’t really need anything else
random imp
I'm sorry to say it, but subtitles in a survival horror game are not the smartest idea.
people can and will abuse the subtitles and the fact that they will warn you of something you did not notice
and you shouldn't be rewarded if you do not pay enough attentiuon on the game
barren zephyr
It can include other noises like the background audience.
random imp
imagine this scenario: a player using subtitles even if it doesn't need to going afk or playing with his phone not even listening to the game. another player manages to sneak up on him and start running. the dude without posing attention to his survival will just read "footsteps approaching" and can escape.
this is very, very unfair
in a survival your life is meant to be difficult and the smallest error will cost you
and having an "hack" like this, to have the game to do the listening work, is straight up wrong
thorn glacier
I feel like its more unfair to not let some people play the game at all though because some people might abuse it
Maybe make it so you have to message the devs and request some kind of subtitle thing
Like per individual?
barren zephyr
^
deep jetty
@barren zephyr the crest colors are probably just placeholders, i bet there will be reds oranges & blues for crest colors once customization is in
barren zephyr
I hope so
deep jetty
i taked to a couple devs about customization like feathers, they seemed to like the idea & already was planning it
zinc anvil
cool ideas of customization things who knows what they will do
quartz lantern
I mean, they talked about it in isle discussion so.....
urban flax
<@271991689072214016> I feel like dryo should have this ability, rex doesn’t rea...
Rex will need something else when it comes to evrima. If it's only ability is "big bite go brrr" then it's gonna be boring. I don't know dryo had eagle-like sight, but anyway a dino getting an ability doesn't mean others can't have it too. We already have several burrowing and venomous dinos planned.
pure eagle
Rex will need something else when it comes to evrima. If it's only ability is "b...
rex is already higly played and viable in legacy, and yes evrima will be different, but when there are plenty of other apexes that serve as prey like stego and trike, then it seems like itll still be viable in evrima to. and again, its very higly played for a few reasons. though you put up some compelling points, it just doesnt seem necessary at all, and would make an already nearly overpowered dino even stronger.
but if you have another point to make then be my guest
tepid gate
Rex first needs to even be in Evrima to at least attempt to be overpowered - as it is there' hardly anything that suggests it will be overpowered. If someone was to put it in the game right now it would be pretty much fodder, capable only of killing Stegosaurus in the current line-up.
Same goes for Giga btw
urban flax
Sure, rex will be overpowered only if devs decide to make it overpowered. That's why I said that it should be weaker than in legacy.
tepid gate
I don't think Rex was even that good in the legacy - it was a bit too good in 1v1 scenarios perhaps but survival-wise it was hardly that outstanding honestly. Sub Rex and adult Giga were better picks in terms of survivability
Not to mention the true dinosaurs that never died unless they wanted to such as Galli, Carno and(to a lesser extent) Utah and Maia
urban flax
I never played rex so idk, I just know that they represent half of the server populations in legacy
tepid gate
Because Rex is the most popular dinosaur in pop-culture
elder rivet
Sure, rex will be overpowered only if devs decide to make it overpowered. That's...
It shouldn't be weaker than in legacy; The only reason rexes could solo spinos, trikes, ankys, etc, was because of bone break, no collision and poor hit registration, which meant not only it could break legs of shants and other things with stomps, but also meant they could double bite in and out of it's enemies
tepid gate
You will always have the most people playing Rex and Utah because those dinosaurs are extremely popular due to Jurassic Park's influence on the common understanding of those animals.
urban flax
Yeah probably
Anyway the point of my suggestion was not to weaken rex but to give it super-sight. And I didn't even expect it to start any form of debate ^^'
tepid gate
Rex was just a monster of a duelist in the legacy, but that was pretty much all it had, it could 1v1 the vast majority of the roster with ease with pretty much only the sandbox Camarasaurus having the clear upper hand over it
I don't think Rex necessarily needs super sight, it is an option to give it that depending on what this dinosaur is meant to do in Evrima
From what I can see it might be the new endurance hunter replacing Giga in that role, it could probably use super-sight in that case to track its prey from afar.
urban flax
Yup. That would make sense at least.
proud coral
Super sight like that in general sounds like a neat idea. I pictured something like that for certain flyers before
hybrid matrix
alr rq how long doe sit take for utah to get up from a pounce
after it gets flung off
anyone kno?
bc im pretty sure it takes like 2 seconds or smthn
barely enough time for a stego to jab, a carno to bite, and a teno to claw
tepid gate
It doesn't take long at all from my experience
hybrid matrix
same
tepid gate
Matter of fact half the time Utah gets to run around while lying flat on its back because reasons
hybrid matrix
but my experience is from the POV of the pounced, not the pouncer
tepid gate
I myself ran around in circles while sliding on my back because why not?
elder rivet
If you get knocked down, you either didn't watch out for a tail slam on normal combat, and while pouncing you didn't watch out for trees or your stam
hybrid matrix
personally i want all the dinos to look realistic, but thats not what we're gonna get (aka spino). so while i am fine (not rlly) with certain dinos being less realistic, im not ok with everything in the game lookin like a skeleton with skin
i'm talking to you, shrink-rapped t rex
also tf do u mean unrealistic animations??? there r no truly realistic animations so the animations are all just educated guesses. and again wtfdym unrealistic animations??? how tf would that work
@mellow steppe
paper oriole
Anky model is peepeepoopoo
urban flax
Rhino-anky model is not bad.
But I would definitely pref a anky-anky.
paper oriole
They should just rename it and not tarnish the name of ankylosaurus with that chimeric fantasy monster they made
hybrid matrix
yee
wintry monolith
"i like it because its not relistic" sounds dumb
vast wolf
the big issues people have with it are the kink in its back the "arm tumors" which is loose skin and the body being segmented by folded skin.
everything except the kink is passable in my book.
the leg armor makes it more resistant to damage from ankle biters and the skin folds although weird are a design choice. the kink makes it easier to bite and the argument of it being faster now is bad. the most fused structure in most dinosaurs is the hip. there's usually a bunch of vertebra connected that make it stiffened. it only makes more sense to add a bulge above the hips because more muscle supports the fused area and makes it a rounder and harder shape to grab or bite.
glossy pollen
@thorn glacier I agree. It is too vulnerable on the plains as it stands. I think the more fluid dodge and increased night vision (when that comes) will make for interesting gameplay. I envision dryo spending its day in the jungle or wherever heavy foliage may be and then spends most of the night on the plains.
sharp stratus
@bold stratus I think making bleed more extreme for the dinos we currently have in the game is just unnecessary /: most fights are won with special abilities that I think would have a bad reaction with bleed and make it super annoying to win a difficult matchup only to die to bleed a few seconds after.
proud coral
Utah's pounce should do much more bleed than raw damage.
sharp stratus
Bleed should be used a speciality in some Dino’s like how it was used for dilo in legacy
No
That would make Utah a bad pack hunter if the bleed has a stack
vast wolf
maybe every hit has a base blood value like they have a damage value
proud coral
I mean it'd still do good damage, just not the amount it does now.
sharp stratus
I think giving Utah more bleed is unnecessary... pounce can be countered by using trees and things plus not to mention that a single Utah is almost useless against something like a carno
vast wolf
I think giving Utah more bleed is unnecessary... pounce can be countered by usin...
well yeah carno is 4x as heavy
sharp stratus
But I understand the idea, because yeah Utah pounce does pretty crazy damage
Yeah exactly
vast wolf
but 4 utahs killing a stego in seconds is absurd
thats like 4 lions taking down a hippo with a spiky tail instead of big teeth
bold stratus
<@249678426833682432> I think making bleed more extreme for the dinos we current...
but bro , i never EVER died because of this bleeding system , its like its not there, just asthetics
proud coral
Yeah bleed has never felt threatening. I get that there are no real bleeders yet, but it should have some threat with current creatures.
sharp stratus
Naw it should be a threat with stuff like dilo I think
I don’t believe current dinos need a huge bleed output
Maybe a bit Utah
sharp stratus
If they do it right and don’t severely nerf it into the ground
Yeah I guess so thinking back on it
vast wolf
dilo wont do crazy bleed it has a hallucinogen in its venom.
bold stratus
i explained my point in my latest video abt bleeding , check the videos and streams if u wanna get my point tbh, this bleeding it looks like an effect that its there but not really there if u know what i mean xD
sharp stratus
dilo wont do crazy bleed it has a hallucinogen in its venom.
Like how it was in legacy
Idk it could work but bleeding out is kinda cancer anyway tbh..
vast wolf
dilo wont do bleed like it did in legacy because it now has a hallucinogenic venom.
sharp stratus
I get it can win unwinnable fights but it’s just cringe having to sit there watching someone bleed you with little counter play like in legacy
proud coral
One issue with bleeding in legacy was that if you were bleeding a lot, you couldn't run away because you'd die faster. Couldn't fight back because you'd have to move for that, thus die faster.
snow meadow
Megalania should hunt primarily with venom. Thats what komodos do. Bite and follow the prey and wait for it to die. They don't really use it for self defense. Their size and tail are its defenses, where as as babies they hide in trees
bold stratus
but it was better than this one ,or at least it was threatning to u
sharp stratus
To balance
bold stratus
exactly
sharp stratus
Or maybe by the time of the release of megalania if they can make a limb unusable based on where they were bit would be cool
bold stratus
have u ever died by this new bleeding system ?
snow meadow
I think there would need to be something to stop people from just face tanking megalania. Maybe the venom only goes away if you get far enough away from the creature, so it's up to the player megalania to track you down and stay in range. Just an idea off the top of my head tho
sharp stratus
I don’t think you should. Maybe it should be more oppressive but dying from bleed sucks..
Unless again it’s something like legacy dilo
That specializes in bleed
sharp stratus
I think there would need to be something to stop people from just face tanking m...
Yeah if they made the venom make you slower or something but made megalania slow too it would be cool
Maybe if it had good scent too to track 
snow meadow
Maybe they leave a green venom trail for you to follow
dire ridge
Bleed should kill only in last resort, the main thing with bleed should making stamina regen gradually slower. Exhausting your prey to kill it
bold stratus
why people made the time emoji on my feeback abt bleed, does that mean they gonna improve it at a certain time ?
dire ridge
Not having a bleed TOO strong like in legacy
sharp stratus
Bleed should kill only in last resort, the main thing with bleed should making s...
Yeah my thoughts exactly
snow meadow
Don't they want to eventually put in different areas to bite. So like if you're bleeding from your tail it's gonna be less serious than if you got bit in the neck
Get butt ridden to death does suck
sharp stratus
They have locational damage in the game right now but it doesn’t stack with bleed
snow meadow
Ohh okay. I haven't played much evrima lately tbh
paper oriole
mmm his mouth in that edit look so much better
elder rivet
@willow zealot what did you change there?
paper oriole
he smoothed the neck hump and made his mouth less gapey
silver zephyr
mouth hump tail
at least i think the tail
looks longer but maybe im just going insane
paper oriole
looks a bit longer to me too hmmmm
people dont seem to kno who mr mosasaur is. his videos are pretty decent
elder rivet
Kinda surprising especially because of his "Inside the mind of" series
terse hornet
@barren zephyr the plants turn transparent relative to your camera, not your body. That's why the grass turns transparent close to the camera even when it's zoomed out all the way. afaik the reason the plants only turn transparent so close to your camera is so people can't abuse it to look under bushes they would otherwise be unable to see under where small players could be hiding.
barren zephyr
Yeah I know that, I just wanted to suggest making the area in which foliage turns transparent a little bit bigger
Cause as it is now, it’s a very exaggeratedly small radius
But let’s hope that with plant collisions that gets fixed.
Hopefully
There would be almost no need for transparent foliage with plant collisions
noble pine
@vast sluice Komodo dragons have semi shorter tails and they can still tail whip, it’s not the that matters 
@winter grove this is also for you as well
stoic orbit
Lmfao what’s with the isle making their animals look purposefully retarded 💀💀
noble pine
Not all monitors have extremely long tails, more water and tree based monitors do to help them swim and climb, while terrestrial monitors have thick, shorter tails.
It doesn’t look retarded, it just needs a slight edit.
stoic orbit
I mean I dont think they’re gonna edit it my guy it was choice
winter grove
Please don't tag me.
hybrid matrix
Lmfao what’s with the isle making their animals look purposefully retarded 💀💀
spino
its spino
spino is that
this is spino
spino sucks
they coulda made it the most unique fucking dinosaur the game has ever seen but no they made jurassic park 3
noble pine
Then don’t make feedback if you don’t want to be pinged.
stoic orbit
That’s not how that works lmfao @noble pine
noble pine
You do realize they’re altering acro and Alberto due to negative feedback right? Do you understand what concept art is?
winter grove
I asked nicely. No need for sass.
noble pine
It’s just that, a concept, not the final product.
stoic orbit
They stay pretty true to their concept art if you’ve gone back and compare you’d notice
hybrid matrix
well thats because everything thats been added to the game so far looks fucking great
stoic orbit
Debatable
noble pine
There’s only been 2 from concept to model designs so far, giga and anky, anky was altered slightly but giga was pretty well received so it wasn’t changed.
noble pine
I’m not saying it isn’t, I’m just saying that’s your opinion
stoic orbit
Yea okay agreed
hybrid matrix
hypsi, fuckin awesome
dryo, other than the constant frown, fuckin awesome
teno, fuckin. awesome
stego, fucking. awe-some.
utah, kinda small and isnt true to the character screen image, but fuckin cool
carno, yes
hybrid matrix
Austro isn’t a good design, it to me is just nasty looking
yes
stoic orbit
Acro, austro, spino, and anky look bad imo but thats my opinion
noble pine
Anyway, the mega is fine, the neck hump just needs to be shrunk a tad and the head more true to a komodo
hybrid matrix
Acro, austro, spino, and anky look bad imo but thats my opinion
well in this case ur opinion is fact
rq i wanna see wut an italicized period looks like
.
stoic orbit
I appreciate you sharing the same ideas
hybrid matrix
. .
stoic orbit
Alright imma head out you guys have a nice day/night
noble pine
I like our spino, but I also don’t mind accurate spino or jp3 spino, I like them both equally, so either one would’ve been fine to me
hybrid matrix
i see no difference
hybrid matrix
I like our spino, but I also don’t mind accurate spino or jp3 spino, I like them...
i think the current spino looks too much like this gif
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/423939730544132096/788056935076462642/I_have_brain_damage_now.gif
noble pine
Ew no go away
Stinky
Low res fuckin
Thing
It’s a good representation of what our spino is supposed to be, a large muscular tank that can defend itself against other large predators.
hybrid matrix
either its the coloring, or the model, but either way, current spino looks too much like this idiot who cant tell the difference between a chicken and its egg
noble pine
Literally no resemblance besides being extremely bipedal
hybrid matrix
look. at. the. neck.
noble pine
I get a lot of people wanted concept art spino but what we got isn’t bad
vast sluice
<@209784044060147712> Komodo dragons have semi shorter tails and they can still ...
The Komodo dragon's tails are as long as their bodies (now that look It seem the Megalania have the tail long his body)
noble pine
The neck is fine? It’s long snd muscular
hybrid matrix
the structure
noble pine
It’s very similar
It’s a neck...it goes up and bends, it’s got muscles and veins and such, it’s got a little pouch so it can swallow fishies
I don’t really understand
slim wing
I think it looks completely fine.
noble pine
Out of all the thing to criticize I don’t really understand the issue with the neck, maybe it’s too long in your eyes? Idk
hybrid matrix
it goes like this
..............and then the head
___ _/
'''''''_/
hold on
that rlly fucked up
noble pine
I still don’t see it but to each their own ig
noble pine
Spamming it doesn’t help feedback 
hybrid matrix
Spamming it doesn’t help feedback <:lmao:779317227882414080>
but gif spoon
noble pine
But admins will hurt you
What
Deinos proportions are fine?
And mega isn’t oversized? They may alter its size to possibly fit in with mid tiers.
I don’t have to be to know from the many videos and photos we’ve seen of deino that it’s proportions are normal
It’s a feedback channel discussion, devs aren’t going to come in here and talk to you about your feedback, other people are.
It’s been this way since the beginning
barren zephyr
icy lion
deinos fine?
elder rivet
the only thing wrong about deino is how his tail is shaped like a V instead of having larger tail ridges near the end of the tail
hybrid matrix
the only thing wrong about deino is how his tail is shaped like a V instead of h...
yeah
jade schooner
I don’t understand your feedback, @white torrent. It’s literally the same design with some tweaks.
So I don’t see how one is horrible and the other is oh so good, while it’s literally design one photoshopped. And some reasons to why it’s not good would be welcome (for example, my one complain is the bottom jaw, looks off)
paper oriole
probably just how pronounced its neck hump is and/or how weird its jaw is, small things like that can make a big difference to some people
paper oriole
like the rounded/smooth hump in the edit looks a lot better despite it being a minor edit
noble pine
The neck needs to be toned down and the jaw needs to be fixed, but it’s not a bad design
As long as it doesn’t look like fucking arks mega I’m ok with it
paper oriole
and its jaw looks like its making a silly face, unnatural, which another minor edit remedied well
jade schooner
With Jake in the team, heavily doubt it
The neck I like the idea of having a smoother version (more like modern komodos and monitors) tied to the sexual dimorphism that someone mentioned before. I think the neck hump has the threatening bulky look, but honestly I wasn't expecting. It's not great, but not necessarily bad
upbeat marten
@trail mesa feedback I think is really good honestly the devs should look at it
paper oriole
its way more like a grizzly bear hump than a varanid hump which is the issue
trail mesa
<@!309444840557379584> feedback I think is really good honestly the devs should ...
thanks, i hope they do
paper oriole
it having a hump is fine if it is done smoother
jade schooner
its way more like a grizzly bear hump than a varanid hump which is the issue
good point
junior crow
As long as it doesn’t look like fucking arks mega I’m ok with it
Ark's Megalania was poggers bro idk what your talking about 
jade schooner
This is not megalania, but palaeosaniwa that Jake made for saurian. So we can expect something good. At least I hope so
brave rampart
I mean with the megalania concept, when it gets modeled, it only needs minor tweaks which is easy to do lol.
barren zephyr
fug yes it looks super good
brave rampart
@barren zephyr also, the megalania concept doesn't even have the official colors. It has the same color as the alberto and acro concept arts
So luckily it's not the actual colors
jade schooner
It's just base concept art
barren zephyr
<@456226577798135808> also, the megalania concept doesn't even have the official...
oh, I see
stoic orbit
the only thing wrong about deino is how his tail is shaped like a V instead of h...
That’s not the only thing wrong with the deinosuchus
thorn glacier
I want micro just to chill with it
paper oriole
changyuraptor > microraptor it's at least a bit bigger
thorn glacier
It could be a nice arboreal dino just to flesh out the game a little more
AI in survival could be nice but I'd want it to be playable in sandbox
paper oriole
there are gliders bigger than micro who might be able to at least hunt compies and bottom of the barrel tier juvies, micro would get bodied by a compy ez and not supply any food for herrera
thorn glacier
Fair enough
Ambient AI was an idea I saw being considered though so microraptor may be good in that regard
paper oriole
either changyuraptor who is about a foot longer or shanag who is speculatively around 2 feet longer would probably make for better options just off the top of my head lol
archaeopteryx is like the same size as micro isnt he
even smaller apparently
vestal field
I just think adding in an arboreal dino would be an interesting playstyle
Especially if you could hunt small ground dinos
paper oriole
yeah a glider would be neat but maybe one big enough to actually pick some fights with something other than bugs lol
hard to find good sized gliders but there are a few who are just big enough that they might be able to stand up to some of the other dinos at the bottom of the roster with arboreal ambushing
vestal field
Yea true
Then again, the devs could add in like a uh
I dont know how to explain it
Like how ox peckers eat ticks or other parasites off of bigger mammals
Like what if smaller arboreals like micro or yi qi had that ability
Then you could also be hitching a free ride lol
paper oriole
as far as an oxpecker niche goes it might be best suited for a small pterosaur since they can actually fly away easier from unwelcoming hosts compared to gliders
vestal field
True
warm flame
@iron magnet no, there's no point on wasting time and money on that thing
dapper terrace
@warm flame you're a real piece of trash.
Who refers to anyone as that thing?
warm flame
cries
I had it as him earlier
I remember someone called bilbo a her once
I think bilbo's gender is all of the above
dapper terrace
Bilbo is a man, and user he/him pronouns
dapper terrace
And you believe that, yet you refer to them as a thing?
warm flame
who knows maybe bilbo isn't even human
warm flame
took you long enough to figure it out
trail mesa
dapper terrace
Bilbo's got more humanity than just about everyone in this Discord. He doesn't deserve your harsh words or your disrespect
dense wagon
yeah I don't think that was necessary at all cash
warm flame
@random imp monitor lizards do have really long tails that they use for defense and swimming
wary sparrow
<@442221326070054912> monitor lizards do have really long tails that they use fo...
He acknowledged that monitor lizards have long tails ? He just said he felt like megas tail is short for a monitor lizard
warm flame
I thought it said that it had short earlier, that might've been the edit
noble pine
Terrestrial monitors often had shorter tails because they simply don’t need it, my dumerils monitors (a semi aquatic swamp dwelling monitor) tail is twice the length of his body. A crocodile monitors tail is almost twice as long as their body, komodos on the other hand don’t have extremely long tails because they aren’t swimming or climbing enough for that to be a necessary evolutionary trait.
random imp
I said that monitor lizards have extremely long tails
and that the megalania in the concept has a stumpy little tail instead
noble pine
Not really, it’s just as long as the body, just like modern day komodos.
random imp
our megalania will prob have the nile monitor lifestyle
noble pine
I doubt it
noble pine
Our mega doesn’t have the body type nor the tail to support any sort of semi aquatic life style
That’s why it has venom and a tail whip
It’s also a bulky, endurance predator, have you ever seen a komodo run? It’s scary
random imp
how can it whip with a tail like that? it's too big and too short
noble pine
The giant tumor on the neck is a clear sign of extra defense student larger predators
You’d be surprised
The thicker it is the harder it hits
It’s still got some nice length to it
random imp
no i really am not. iguanas and monitors do whip because the end of the tail is long and thin
and it will do a lot of damage, just like the weapon
a tail like in the concept art is too bulky, it can use it to slam things, not whip them
and keep in mind that megalania isn't that big
even a cerato or a skilled dilo will fuck it up
and on land only it will be destroyed
maybe it will be able to escape in trees at younger ages, but when adult it will be relatively slow moving and without defense against bigger stuff
noble pine
...
trail mesa
i disagree, that tail could definitely hurt, considering komodos use their tail to hit things
trail mesa
it'd be enough to stun a mid tier so it could make an escape, if the mega doesnt use more creative escape routes like scaling something or swimming
noble pine
Monitor lizards are well know for being well armed and very capable of fending off predators much much larger than themselves
trail mesa
i'd say a cerato could mess up a mega, just depends on if it can get a bite on the mega without getting bit or slapped
megas defense relies on not getting hit for the most part
random imp
lol you are talking about real animals. here people are controlling the creatures
noble pine
You’d either have to be brain dead or get ambushed
Yes, people are smarter than modern animals
trail mesa
nah i think mega should still compete with other pseudo mids, but at the same time have potential to fight above its weight class, to a greater extent than the other pseduo mids
random imp
cerato can and will kill megas
noble pine
Anything above Alberto is pushing it but it should have a chance
trail mesa
like a cerato could mess up a mega if the mega isnt careful, but at the same time a mega could defend itself from an allo, enough to stun and run off
noble pine
You are seriously overestimating a cerato
random imp
run off how? the only way it has to survive s to use water
and that is why i suggested a longer tail
noble pine
I own 2 monitors, I can assure you they don’t play around
Water isn’t the only solution for a small thing running form a big thing
trail mesa
im saying monitors are still vulnerable. they have amazing defense but at the end of the day a cerato could do some damage
random imp
thet is because their tail is built to whip and because you are a frail human being
noble pine
Cerato and mega probably won’t be in direct competition since we’ll, ceras a swamp dweller and mega is a jungle/plains hunter
random imp
an armored cerato won't give a fuuuck about megas, if they can't escape they'll die
trail mesa
mega has the defenses that let it fight cerato and other pseuudo mids, and enough defense to fend off a mid tier so it can escape. thats all the tail needs to do really
noble pine
random imp
Water isn’t the only solution for a small thing running form a big thing
the point is that if you are a bulky ass creature like the megas, around 7 meters you won't be fast.
it's not small
it's small compared to the rest of the roster
and the rest of the roster will kill it
trail mesa
i can see mega defending itself from mid tier carnivores and below to some extent. anything bigger its either gonna run, or get creative by swimming, climbing, or hiding
noble pine
Cerato isn’t going to body mega, the fear of venom, the actual effects of that venom and a tail whip are enough to handle a cerato
random imp
cerato will be prob immune to venoms
trail mesa
that would be interesting but nothing indicates venom resistance yet
noble pine
Then you have a croc killer and an anti-mega Dino, that’s simply op
Then it’s resistant to dilos and troodon
brave rampart
I see no point for cera to be immune to venoms
It's a scavenger mid tier
random imp
it hunts magy who is said to have some poisonous qualities, it eats rotten corpses
brave rampart
Poisonous yes
trail mesa
although im in favor of cerato having venom resistance. kinda emphasizes that brawly honey badger feel
brave rampart
Not venomous
random imp
it basically does whan a monitor does in real life
noble pine
Hyenas aren’t immune to venom yet the eat rotten shit
You can eat rotten things and still be killed by venom, they aren’t very similar im afraid
trail mesa
further makes cerato that "i dont give af" dinosaur. eats what it wants, where it wants, and doesnt care what venom you have. not saying it should be immune, but resistant to some degree
brave rampart
Yeah
I hate it when people compare poison to venom
Like
They're both mostly different
Right
warm flame
my edit's head may be a little small but eh
random imp
meh, anyway, i don't really like the design. that was the hole point. end of story
brave rampart
Ok
noble pine
Fair
brave rampart
^
trail mesa
i think its neat, that tail is still long enough to swim
noble pine
The back and mouth aren’t amazing to look at
trail mesa
but to each their own
noble pine
If it was me, I would’ve made the tail just a tad longer, deflated the hump a bit and completely based the head off of Komodo dragons
brave rampart
Huh
trail mesa
the head my favorite part, looks like smaug. still has the monitor feel but is different and menacing
random imp
rozo edit is perfect for example. a slightly longer body shape and a head size that fits the body
brave rampart
It looks like a komodo to me
What's so different about it?
Everything you said?
I really dont like the longer head
Or neck
But I like the longer tail
warm flame
the back hump looks weird on the concept the neck is short it had a lest blocky head it has a spikey and shorter tail etc
random imp
If it was me, I would’ve made the tail just a tad longer, deflated the hump a bi...
so we agree, why did we argue in the first place then?
trail mesa
warm flame
<:TI_Perfect:735343168555450430>
plot twist
noble pine
Smaug
brave rampart
Idk the long neck just seems.. weird
trail mesa
looks evil, i love it
random imp
monitors have long necks, they explore every tiny crevice
warm flame
monitors have long necks, they explore every tiny crevice
was gonna make a nsfw joke out of that but don't want to be banned
random imp
what species of monitor do you have?
brave rampart
Isnt Megalania a komodo tho
random imp
megalania is an extinct monitor from Australia
warm flame
you didn't know it was extinct?
random imp
well, komodo islands are near australia
trail mesa
i mean its very closely related to komodos
brave rampart
you didn't know it was extinct?
Of course I knew it was extinct
I'm explaining the characteristics
Hence
Giant komodo
warm flame
Of course I knew it was extinct
yeah I just realized what you meant lmao
trail mesa
theyre both monitors that lived relatively close, geographically and time wise
brave rampart
yeah I just realized what you meant lmao
Lol all good
warm flame
don't mind me, my brain cells are in the negatives
brave rampart
Same
warm flame
noble pine
warm flame
good english there
brave rampart
I did my best
noble pine
what species of monitor do you have?
^^^^
warm flame
is that a baby monitor?
random imp
is that an Argus monitor?
random imp
the big one is a water monitor?
random imp
beautiful
noble pine
warm flame
solitary did you see my edit of the mega?
noble pine
Yeah
warm flame
I think I may have made the head a bit small but eh
random imp
one day i'll get a monitor too lol. for now i'll stick to beardies
noble pine
I was instructed by the vet to clear all the dirt, water source and log from his enclosure
warm flame
but what is a monitor without dirt to dig around in? 
noble pine
He recently had surgery and they don’t want anything to possibly obstruct the healing process
random imp
I think I may have made the head a bit small but eh
just a tiny bit bigger 'd be better, but i like the not exagerated head
poor guy
noble pine
So for now he lives with a floor of paper towels and large cinderblock for a basking spot
warm flame
I'm too lazy to edit that any further lmao
noble pine
It’s either die or miss out on some water and dirt for a few weeks, I’d rather him just go without for a few weeks
random imp
smart choice
noble pine
Yes he still has a water bowl but he can’t anything he can swim in
Cause it’ll deteriorate something something something and it’ll get infected
warm flame
no splashy splash for monitor
noble pine
He’ll be fine
random imp
poor baby
noble pine
block of cinder
warm flame
why is that funny
noble pine
I did clean it off with extremely hot water before I put it in so he should be good
noble pine
fuck off cunt 
random imp
monitors are so fucking smart
noble pine
He watches me
If I stand up he’s watching
He doesn’t even move his head, I can just see his eye following me around the room
warm flame
@analog ingot firstly, amazing edit, how did you get the crest onto the top picture? secondly, did mega actually have a crest on the skull?
noble pine
When I let him out to roam he’s very alert and interested in every little thing
random imp
i mean if my beardie can understand some actions i do and recognises his name, i guess monitors can even learn to communicate lol
noble pine
He’s gone from being a complete dick to letting me rub his head, neck and back with no sounds at all
random imp
He doesn’t even move his head, I can just see his eye following me around the ro...
creepy tho
noble pine
I’m very impressed with how well he’s tamed down
noble pine
At least I know someone’s always watching my back
warm flame
he can't wait to get his teeth into your back :
analog ingot
<@!159007463469875200> firstly, amazing edit, how did you get the crest onto the...
thanks, I drew it on. Yes it did apparently
crest^
warm flame
thanks, I drew it on. Yes it did apparently
ah, the crest looks more like it'd hold some muscular structure to me
warm flame
I hate how that looks
though it is interesting to see it with a crest, I wonder if any other monitors had a crest like shape on their skull so we could see if it was covered by skin or not
none of the other monitors have crests on their skulls so that could've indeed been a crest
warm flame
I hate how that looks
btw I hate how the crest on that drawing looks not on yours
analog ingot
It's also to make it a bit more unique instead of making it fat or change its proportions. And to let players chose small details they want like crests,horns, frills, dewlap etc
warm flame
would you mind if I tried to pop the head of yours with it's crest onto my edit?
analog ingot
go ahead, its not my art anyways, just fan edit that I'd like to see in game.
warm flame
wow that edit turned out way better than I expected
warm flame
@barren zephyr as much as I do like orauno, it's basically para
solar salmon
Yea it's basically the same as Para, we don't need hadrosaurs that are the exact same.
Para is already going to be a runner, so it's going to be fast, then we have Shant which is more of a fighter and we're probably going to have Iguanadon which is also a fighter
sonic cloud
Ourano is just Maia with brim
snow meadow
I agree with Bilbo about the density of the fauna in evrima. Basically just a face full of green most of the time. I hope there's more shorter grass and such added or something
worthy kettle
Oh just rendering distance? Thanks i will try, some time it's drop fps but sometimes it's huge freeze
i let nvdia geforce adjust for me
paper geyser
dont trust nvidia to auuto adjust graphics for you, half the time it does a horrible job
paper geyser
shadows can give you +20fps if you go from high to medium
worthy kettle
already medium
i think i will play lowest possible
and i come back if that freeze too
paper geyser
yeah it's not really worth it playing on highest unless you're taking screenshots
worthy kettle
but before i played it , and that was ok with good graphism
Thank you guys, you're really kind to answering me
Will try and i come back
My pc is not old
got 1060- i7 8 go ram
it was ok for playing at this game like 6 month before
paper geyser
that's pretty old
i've got a 1060 as well, 4 year old card lol
yeah nowadays 16 is the minimum
but 32 lets you open 50 tabs of chrome, discord, and a game at the same time
mine is crazy expensive by now
originally was about 700
but i've been adding stuff and recently i upgraded everything except gpu
my god
thats ridiculous
what do you have in there
in your computer
no like what are your specs
what are the parts inside your computer
dont you know at least what your gpu is
worthy kettle
so
You think my Ram is not adapted to this game?
But why i played it before
like smooth
paper geyser
you should have 16gb but it wont make much of a difference
ram is essentially how many things you can do at once
but idk how much TI uses up so i cant comment
worthy kettle
So i played with lowest graphic possible except resolution
and the game is smooth, and sometimes have drop fpd bust instantly reup to 82 fps
huge freeze became micro lag
hybrid matrix
@charred nova if sexual dimorphism is added like ur pics, then it cant change the stats. its gotta just be visual
no i mean no stat change at all
just get rid of the part about
for the possible ability for female megalania which is making it faster at swimming than its male counterpart however not as much as health.( female megalania doesnt need to be semi aquatic just needs its hump and and a bit more fat for its tail.)
@charred nova
charred nova
thats why i added the bit at the end
hybrid matrix
just get rid of it entirely
if its just
Megalania Sexual Dimorphism and possible abilitys. Red is what i would remove. Dark Blue is what i would add, and Light blue is what i would add
Thats perfect ^
charred nova
i think the semi aquatic thing would suit as a perk
hybrid matrix
ok
thats a good idea
but dont make it so that theres a stat change between male and female
now its good
urban flax
@green lion You see the little stickman behind the animal ? I think it's a human for comparison
outer nebula
@green lion all animals will be able to swim but its primarily a terrestrial animal
azure wadi
I’d imagine it’d swim about as well as a Komodo dragon, considering the fact that they swim between islands, that’s not a bad swim speed
outer nebula
@green lion talk in here if you want to discuss
outer nebula
doubt it since its a terrestrial carnivore and its body isnt designed like deino so more likely it be like the other animals
hybrid matrix
wut about teno swim speed?
bc i mean it is like a big komodo dragon so it should swim pretty fast, like a teno
also i think the only thing that wont be able to swim is brachi bc its so big that nowhere is there a deep enough body of water for it to enter a swimming animation
outer nebula
i think they mean a fully aquatic life style
hybrid matrix
ok well still
outer nebula
doubt it be a second deino maybe a tenonto but wont be fully aquatic
glad dirge
Deino definitely is gonna swim faster than megalania, megalania may be semi aquatic but it doesn't have the big gator tail or muscles deino has
outer nebula
semi aquatic implies it lives in water, its a terrestrial carnivore with the ability to swim long distances
hybrid matrix
semi aquatic implies it lives in water, its a terrestrial carnivore with the abi...
yea i kno
im just trying to say brachi cant swim lmao
outer nebula
i was replying to tyn
green lion
Will the Megalania be able to swim underwater?
pine cape
I would like if it could dive and be a fast swimmer to have some more water monitor/scavenger niche. Maybe more so when it is younger
green lion
For example like the water monitor where its able to swim like it?
hybrid matrix
no but it might have perks like that
outer nebula
the advance swimming is reserved for fully aquatic animals
wintry monolith
maybe even teno later as it is believed to be a swamp delver and can flee a carno taht way later
valid zephyr
Didn't tenoto get its swim speed nerfed tons right after evrima first released? I doubt it's planned to be a swamp dweller.
hexed rampart
More worried about Teno on the upcoming night terrors update
outer nebula
it be fine if it can handle utah it can handle troodon and dilo
ashen wasp
Tenonto's apparently supposed to feed on some plants that grow in the middle of the swamp, but that may be in order to force it out of its' comfort zone as opposed to provide an environment for it
paper oriole
Juvenile mega having some climbing capabilities would be cool and all but not the adults
urban flax
Yeah it's a little too large
tepid gate
I think it would be fine if even the adult Mega could climb although admittedly it shouldn't be able to climb all the trees only those large enough to support its weight
lunar nest
yeah
i was thinking more cliff faces than trees but if the devs find a way to balance it i think it would be great
valid zephyr
Hopefully tenoto will just be able to run over troodon and flatten it.
buoyant aspen
You know the devs should make another game like the isle but in ice age
paper oriole
Youve said that in at least 3 channels lol
Even in isle lore theories? Bruh you spamming at this point lmao
urban flax
The Isle doesn't even take place in a prehistoric era
lunar nest
@nova anchor use this
nova anchor
that was me adding on to the suggestion
lunar nest
#general-feedback-discussion its called discussion
urban flax
Yeah but do it in the discussion channel
lunar nest
thats what this channel is for
hybrid matrix
thats what this channel is for
dude herra is gonna climb trees
lunar nest
yes yes YES YES
hybrid matrix
i think wut bothers me about mega's mouth the most is that chin
the chin is evil
mega's chin is the antichrist
warm flame
this server is the antichrist
hybrid matrix
THE CHIN
SUCKS
urban flax
Bajadasaurus is much larger than Magy, and besides magy is already too much advanced in development to be scrapped
warm flame
^ bajad could be even worse than magy due to this because it's an easier target
hard to miss
a better idea would be to make magy nocturnal
urban flax
Personnally I think magy will be perfectly viable without needing to be nocturnal, poisonous, laser-shooting or invisible. Just look at its bulk.
warm flame
I feel like acro would be a bane to it's existence
urban flax
Many dinos are gonna be snacks for apexes
Just hide
dark nymph
If your neck sticks out of most vegetation
I mean in legacy i could spot a cama pretty easily because of the neck
warm flame
but atleast cama could hide in trees
dark nymph
Even when in dense vefitation
warm flame
then again spikes on bajad could look like twigs
urban flax
Magy is 2 meters high
Much less than a cama
warm flame
you wish
noble pine
Alberto neck isn’t over sized, the neck itself is actually too slim, the unnecessary skin under the neck is what makes it look so big.
The second and 3rd flap of skin need to go, the first can stay, hell even the second one would be fine, but there’s just too much of it.
solar salmon
yea
jagged heath
@zenith onyx the anim in the vid is utahs new sniff XD
paper oriole
Imagine all the uwutahs cuddling on rocks 
zenith onyx
whats wrong with that
it would be cute
not everyone is super serious like u lol
your name even shows it
zenith onyx
@bold stratus They haven't completely finished the mechanic
bold stratus
<@!249678426833682432> They haven't completely finished the mechanic
yeah i have no idea, its just a feedback tho
zenith onyx
ik
bold stratus
we can give feedback on things that are WIP, to help them finish it the right way no ?
zenith onyx
im just saying, lets not give critism until they say its finished and ask for it.
devout falcon
I just wanna see how many hearts n shit it gets cuz then those folks can be nuked from the community cuz they're part of the game's problem with the overly cutesy bullshit that's infested the game
odd token
I just wanna see how many hearts n shit it gets cuz then those folks can be nuke...
press x to doubt
zenith onyx
x
odd token
why do I not believe you
paper oriole
Lmao yes
odd token
I'd expect degeneracy coming from this community, especially if you have people asking for mating calls
devout falcon
The game used to have such promise noe drowned by the "I wanna be a cute unless dino uwu"
bold stratus
im just saying, lets not give critism until they say its finished and ask for it...
it wasnt a critisim at all . just a normal feedback abt what i saw thats it
paper oriole
I remember there was a suggestion for licking pack mates lol
torn thistle
Pachyrhino already has a model
And Jurassic, how dare you commit this crime
zenith onyx
where is this model? don't tell me its from wiki isle
zenith onyx
yep, from wiki isle lol
paper oriole
And?
torn thistle
I got that from the original, not the Wiki
torn thistle
just the wiki nerds put it up there
devout falcon
Old doesn't mean bad
bold stratus
I remember there was a suggestion for licking pack mates lol
whaaaat xD its a horror survival game xD they wanna turn it to a cute dino sim game xD
paper oriole
and? so was monos but he came back too
devout falcon
Looks better than half the shit we got now
paper oriole
That pachyrhino look better than our new spino lol
zenith onyx
What i mean is they haven't given anything out about this guy, I (personally) think that the image I shared is a better model
and the taht model up above is an abomination. Its not eye catching at all
torn thistle
I mean, they could just touch up the old model a bit. Give it more crust and a bit more gnarly-ness, but besides that I don't think it's too bad
paper oriole
Thats jus your opinion
torn thistle
Only real difference between that model and the one you posted is that the boss isn't rounded
paper oriole
It could use some flare though
zenith onyx
and its your opinon that the new spino sucks buff
paper oriole
The one you shared isnt exactly eyecatching either
zenith onyx
it looks better then that one
paper oriole
It looks pretty average just like the old isle model
paper oriole
Look how smooth his nose is lol
zenith onyx
mine or the other one?
paper oriole
The one in the suggestion uses sandpaper on his nose or sumthn
zenith onyx
well in real life it was more smooth then rough
paper oriole
Personally id like to see more than what is on either but thas just me
devout falcon
I have an even better suggestion, my last one was a banger
zenith onyx
oh bother, here comes the apocalypse
paper oriole
Pretty good room to add some funky growths on that snout
normal shuttle
Why people like pachyrhino? I dont hate it, but at the same time I dont see anything special on it
paper oriole
Idk its a good upper tier bb for herbis
zenith onyx
yeah, there were smooth skeletons and rough ones, scientists think that the older pachyrhinos had growth on their snouts, while the juvies and young adults had smooth snouts
normal shuttle
And whats up with my boi the theri?
paper oriole
Doesnt theri have his new model revealed
torn thistle
Yes
zenith onyx
Theris new model is bad ass
paper oriole
Its pretty hot
zenith onyx
It looks like a beast
devout falcon
I'm theory pachyrhino could have an different play style from the other ceratopsians in game rn
But they would either butcher the design or do some whack shit with the gameplay
torn thistle
Though I personally wish they drew a bit more inspiration from the ol' TSL Theri concept https://i.imgur.com/rzbnzb8.png
paper oriole
Glad they didnt do a bunch of weird shit with it, it's pretty faithful to the original
hybrid matrix
yeah
i love it
zenith onyx
dude i like the tail feathers and the chest feathers, they nailed em
hybrid matrix
damn he got a thicc neck
zenith onyx
yikes thats terrifying....
paper oriole
The anteater-esque tail is
hybrid matrix
wait wut is it eating in that pic tho??
torn thistle
Tree branch
devout falcon
yikes thats terrifying....
@zenith onyx
Like the game should be
zenith onyx
I like the long tongue for the tree grazing
hybrid matrix
ooh
zenith onyx
i meant the concept art jurassic
hybrid matrix
i just thought of something
zenith onyx
that was just posted
devout falcon
I know. I miss the good shit when the game was more that an UWU rp dino sim
zenith onyx
dude at first i thought that greenerie was some type of small animal it had pulvorized.
hybrid matrix
wut if theri was partially an insectivore? there r types of ants that live in trees (for example asian weaver ants) that theri could eat for protein
zenith onyx
omnivore would be terrifying for theri lol, that would be awesome
sign me up
pyscho killing machine
torn thistle
I wouldn't mind Theri being mildly insectivorous, like an old google doc Jaffad had about savannahs
zenith onyx
termites? eh idk...
hot spear
@solar salmon thats only cuz the material that deino is walking on is metal
hence its footsteps sounds
its not the deino bite sound
paper oriole
Theri moment
zenith onyx
lol
paper oriole
Juvies, termites and treefruit/leaves
solar salmon
@hot spear Maybe it is the metal but if it is the bite sound it should be worked on
hybrid matrix
or even better, asian weaver ants.
heres why
Asian weaver ants make leaf nests that look like balls of leaves.
Theri could eat these the way it would eat fruits and leaves. except instead of just eating them with a big crunch, it could break open the nests and then slurp up ants instead of having to try and find stray termites that left their shit tunnels (termites make overground tunnels out of shit)
it took me too long to type that......
paper oriole
Either could work, his anteater vibes really make me wanna see him poking around a termite nest tho but thas just me
hybrid matrix
look up asian weaver ant nest and u will understand y weaver ants r better
paper oriole
Theri can just eat the whole nest then like some ant salad
hybrid matrix
yea but the point of insectivore theri is the tongue
paper oriole
but i still think we could have both
pliant ember
torn thistle
I'd just give the insectivorous diet to primarily herbivorous animals. Dryo, Galli, Theri, maybe Plateo... maybe some ceratopsids, Anky and Shantu with eating up grubs with wood bark, etc.
hybrid matrix
that would be cool to see, but i mean specifically with weaver ants or other types of tree dwelling ants
Hopefully after update 3 or 4 (whichever one is next) the devs will work on bugs
left nacelle
@solar salmon That is the bite sound, but the sound of it's footsteps hitting the metal is also there, which makes it sound a little off. But as you can see from the video above, it should sound kinda like a car door lol
dreamy bison
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401481371249541120/806930541638713344/image0.jpg these look like some sick crocs
solar salmon
@left nacelle The video above doesn't sound like a car door
torn thistle
I don't think any monitor lizard has infrared vision. Only certain snakes with heat pits do
brave rampart
Imo we should wait until they showcase it on the swamps
Before criticizing the bite sound
left nacelle
<@!293276877563494400> The video above doesn't sound like a car door
Well like I said, the metal sounds are mixed in with the bite sound in the clip. There's other parts of the stream where you can hear just the bite sound and it sounds more like that video
solar salmon
Ok thank you
real kraken
Why is the stego so small in Evrima???
left nacelle
Cause there's different species of stegosaurus. The one we have isn't a giant one, but it's still pretty big
real kraken
Are they going to change it for when species like allo or cerato get added?
urban flax
They're going to increase its size slightly in update 3 by the way, right ?
Or are they just downsizing carno ?
elder rivet
Are they going to change it for when species like allo or cerato get added?
probably
left nacelle
They're downsizing carno and tenonto
real kraken
eh????
left nacelle
And I don't really see why they'd change stego's size
real kraken
Carno I could see but tenoto needs an upsize if anything
urban flax
Yeah it's not really necessary
Tenonto is oversized right now
left nacelle
Nah Tenonto's fine. And it isn't getting much of a downsize
elder rivet
How much damage does stego do? 1500?
left nacelle
No clue, but it does enough to one shot a utah
real kraken
I swear stego used to take 75% of a carnos health now it only takes 50%
urban flax
Depends on where you hit it
left nacelle
Well locational damage is a thing. It's gonna do more depending on where you hit
real kraken
true
left nacelle
Stego is fine tho imo
@barren zephyr #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 or #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧 Would be better for your issue
brittle frigate
I'd like to add this to the Deinosuchus bite sound discussion https://youtu.be/NAoDZgbG6oo
hybrid matrix
i think the true heros of society are people like him, who handle things like lions, bears, crocs, etc.
theyre jobs are just as risky as being a firefighter
paper geyser
i definitely wouldnt say they're the true heroes of society lol
a lot of zoos suck, and putting animals up for our entertainment like this isn't something i find very pog
hybrid matrix
yeah i kno
i was makin a joke about how terrifying that job must be
brittle frigate
Either way, the video provides a good demonstration of how similar the bite sounds are to a car door shutting!
left nacelle
I'm surprised people are taking issue with it. It feels like people have an issue with everything the devs do at this point
zenith onyx
most people want things to be a certain way, and so when something doesn't match up with what they invisioned it would be like, they rupture.
left nacelle
Also, 3% that suggestion wouldn't work. There would be a lot of copyright issues
left nacelle
I doubt that would work lol
silver zephyr
which they wouldnt get
left nacelle
And you're gonna get a lot of backlash, just an fyi. People can be really mean and toxic
For no reason lol
edgy harbor
If they get a brand deal with JP.. suuuurree?
elder rivet
I still hope that there's creatures the devs use on servers to scare the shit out of people
Also i hope if they do that, they don't give creatures to youtubers
left nacelle
I don't see why Hyperendocrin creatures wouldn't work, even after the game's out
hybrid matrix
if i see any hypos runnin around ima laugh smugly with my soon-to-be neuro that isnt gonna eventually starve 
left nacelle
zenith onyx
lol
hybrid matrix
https://tenor.com/view/and-then-a-long-came-zeus-he-hurled-his-thunder-bolt-he-z...
im not sure how i should interpret this lmfao
elder rivet
im not sure how i should interpret this lmfao
Neuro spino is gonna be able to change weather or something
hybrid matrix
Neuro spino is gonna be able to change weather or something
did i say neuro spino? ha! imagine. ima fuck up them neuro spinos as a neuro hypsi
hybrid matrix
Hyper compy <:TI_Champ:411454417615847434>
isnt that just a very strong velociraptor?
elder rivet
Hyper compy <:TI_Champ:411454417615847434>
If we're going with legacy logic then hyper compy would be in hypsi levels of strenght
left nacelle
True lol
hybrid matrix
yo
i just realized
dilo would be perfect for a neuro bc it'll have psychedelic venom or some shit
left nacelle
@barren zephyr Just an fyi, Ptera won't have the ability to pick up things
green lion
I really want the megaLania to be semi aquatic like the water monitor
left nacelle
I don't think it will be. I could see it being a fast swimmer tho
barren zephyr
ah i see, from what i seen only fish for ptera still cool tho glad it has a starter ability at least to do something 🙂
left nacelle
Yeah, true. Having more animals that can grab things would be really cool
turbid stratus
I really hope they adjust the stam consumption of deino while it's in water. I feel like it takes more energy for it to walk on land than it does for it to swim slowly in water or just sit at the surface of water.
left nacelle
Yeah Filipe implied that it would be able to
barren zephyr
yea, i'm just looking realistically. clinging to walls and stuff seems good not sure what we could do with it tho. to conserve stam? does flying take stam?
left nacelle
Flapping takes stam, but soaring doesn't
It could be a way to stop for a second and look around, since you can't stop midflight
barren zephyr
i'm guessing different or taller type trees will be added when this ability comes around
or is this implented already for when ptera comes out?
left nacelle
Well I don't think they'll be able to cling onto trees I think it's mostly for cliffs
silver zephyr
i think when it comes out, but who knows
barren zephyr
hmmmm...lol well hope its useful for something, otherwise i'll be looking for that ptera grab attack to drop people
even if its not getting put in
icy lion
that sounds like a mechanic that would rely on herrera being done
silver zephyr
maybe
icy lion
like how pounce is the foundation for grapple
left nacelle
I just hope it doesn't gain stamina while clinging to walls, cause then it would barely ever need to land
silver zephyr
tbf tho it could be the other way around, that pteras wall cling is a pecursor to herreras climbing, but once again who knows
crisp elk
@thorn linden What video are you talking about?
turbid stratus
@hybrid matrix I feel like if an animal managed to escape the jaws of death of a deino (or even modern crocodilian species) the first instinct would be gtfo not turn around and poke the thing that just tried to kill them.
hybrid matrix
<@!662789651102302238> I feel like if an animal managed to escape the jaws of de...
yea i kno
wut r u talking about
hybrid matrix
the counter attack thing would be while they are being drowned
turbid stratus
Oh nvm lol
hybrid matrix
if its successful they swim away while the deino is stunned and damaged
turbid stratus
Gotcha
hybrid matrix
if its unsuccessful they waste all their stam
and then theres possibility 3
they escape the jaws but the deino aint stunned
and possibility 4
they kill the deino and swim away
brave rampart
Literally if you fail to get away from the jaws of the deino while you're being drowned
Its a game of
"FIGHT BACK AND HOPE TO GOD IT SOMEHOW HAS LOW HP"
hybrid matrix
"FIGHT BACK AND HOPE TO GOD IT SOMEHOW HAS LOW HP"
well thats possibility 4
thorn linden
<@750342109776707615> What video are you talking about?
There are multiple ones on yt even above my suggestion there was one
civic delta
I think that while herras will be safe from orthodox predators, some unique ones might be able to catch it, such as a ptera flying into it and knocking off its branch, or a trike rubbing its horns off a tree shaking the herra out unintentionally
hybrid matrix
@fair fable thats my exact idea
civic delta
Also, if herra will have a sort of jump onto a creatures back off a tree, then Kentro will have no problem turning it into a pin cushion
hybrid matrix
Sojun u also rebranded my idea
civic delta
I just got into this thread lol
It’s just common sense to assume that these things will happen
hybrid matrix
No i mean right under my suggestion u said the same thing that i did
left nacelle
When people make suggestions, they open up the channel and type out their idea. They don't scroll up through the suggestions and make sure they aren't posting a same/similar idea to other people. Just because suggestions are similar, does not mean they're copied, Derptah. You also weren't the first person to post a suggestion like that, btw
@iron barn If Deino was able to regain stam in the water, it would never need to go onto land
iron barn
When people make suggestions, they open up the channel and type out their idea. ...
Thats kinda true but the depletion for just stalking a prey from the water would be kinda a disadvantage for the moment to strike
left nacelle
Well that's where stamina management comes in. You have to keep track of your stam and be smart about it
Same thing can be said for Ptera, you shouldn't use all your stam as soon as you take off cause then you could be forced to land in a dangerous area. You gotta know when to use stam and when not to so you have it for when you need it
iron barn
your right just hope they make it slower for him its not going to be easy as a deino people will always be aware when deino releases have to stay out of sight for people to come by the water
left nacelle
Yeah nothing's final. A lot of the balance changes come from QA, and I don't know if QA's even gotten to test deino yet
jaunty plover
The public QA is closed right
mental sleet
Aye.
brittle ivy
For anyone interested in becoming a member of the QA team:
- Be 18 or older.
- Able to work in a team environment.
- Able to sign a NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement).
DM Hypno if you are interested.
(Note: Content Creators are barred from joining QA on grounds of conflicts of interest)
barren zephyr
4 more years 
barren zephyr
lol
zinc quarry
I know this is a little early but I just want to give a suggestion to u guys, I think that adding a mechanic like picking up branches in order to form a nest would be a cool way to expand gameplay
paper oriole
There's been a decent handful of people who have brought up herbis carrying branches/clumps of leaves/fruits so hopefully they consider it
left nacelle
@mellow steppe The aquatic plants will be added with update 3. Dondi said the week before last week that the plants were being sent to them next week. Meaning they were likely placed on the map last week or early this week
mellow steppe
left nacelle
Np 
@junior crow Well when the animals are standing still, they kinda are still moving and making vibrations in the water
junior crow
Yeah I know but it still feels like a little too much imo
left nacelle
I think it's fine because if you're ever standing in shallow water, you'll be able to see the deino coming anyway
Cause water that shallow will be too shallow for deino to swim, let alone be hidden underwater
urban flax
@echo bridge
So allo is both faster and tankier than alberto ? Isn't alberto supposed to be much larger than an allo ?
barren zephyr
@echo bridge I think this is an excellent mathematical way of determining balance. Thanks for taking the time to do this
echo bridge
using this as a scale
albertosaurus is lighter than allo
allo is faster but has doodoo stam, and its trot gets easily outpaced by albertos more endurant sprint speed
and alberto is still dangerous to fight due to its stronger bite and tail smack, especially if i can catch an allo offguard
urban flax
I'd prefer alberto having a quick turnaround bite rather than a tail smack btw
Like Utahraptor has with its alt-bite, except standing instead of running
echo bridge
well i wanted to utilize the interesting shape of the tip of albertos tail in the redesign
plus it would be one of the first carnivores to use a tail attack
specifically likely the only theropod
since the large apexes can just use trample and turns, since mobility(compared to smaller animals) is supposed to be one of their weaknesses
urban flax
Yeah but alberto is the most agile of all tyrannosaurids
And those tail scales doesn't look very sharp
echo bridge
don't need to be sharp to be useful
but it doesnt exactly need it, its just something i wanted to add
urban flax
Yeah, but won't turning around and biting just me a lot more effective ? Even if it's a little slower
echo bridge
depends on the scenario of course
urban flax
Yeah I'd like to get a carni with a tail attack too, but I don't think Alberto fits
barren zephyr
I think it does 
echo bridge
well megalania will probably get one
barren zephyr
it would look cool for cerato too
urban flax
Tail-slapping spino is better 🙂 (as long as we get the paddle tail, which is unlikely in fact)
echo bridge
oh yeah i guess spino could have it, but it already has a lot of attacks too
bite, claw swipe, tail sweep
since Rex probably only gets bite
and Giga gets bite and claw
urban flax
That's 3
Utah has 3 attacks too, and tenonto too
Rex could use a headbutt, it's gonna be lame with only a bite
And some recent (uh 10 year-old) studies said that it may have used headbutts and kicks to knock over opponents
echo bridge
i mean it was big enough to, makes sense
i guess we'll see when they start addressing the apex trio
maybe AI Rex getting new attacks when its added