@zenith onyx that's already a thing
#general-feedback-discussion
dapper terrace
paper oriole
If a big ass animal like para/trike/etc smashes utah itll be way more than 2 screen
zenith onyx
its a glitch, not actually a mechanic
paper oriole
More like pancaked
dapper terrace
It's not a glitch. rubbing Utahs off on rocks and trees knocks them down
hybrid matrix
More like pancaked
now i kinda wanna see wut that would look like. probably like roadkill if roadkill defied gavity
hybrid matrix
It's not a glitch. rubbing Utahs off on rocks and trees knocks them down
no thats a glitch its not a real mechanic
i think that happens bc of the hitboxes
sorta like displacement with water
cyan flame
Pretty sure they made it into a mechanic, the glitch was that you got stuck in the air from the pounce
paper oriole
cyan flame
But the getting knocked off/down is meant to happen
paper oriole
Like dat
dapper terrace
It's not a glitch
hybrid matrix
i think the reason it happens rn is bc of the hitboxes
zenith onyx
Its a glitch that carnos have discovered with Utah's pounce
hybrid matrix
does it say anywhere that they coded it in to be a mechanic?
zenith onyx
it doesn't work for stego or tenonto
hybrid matrix
then therefore it has something to do with the hitboxes
zenith onyx
yep
dapper terrace
it doesn't work for stego or tenonto
Yes it does. I do it all the time
zenith onyx
with what>
dapper terrace
As both stego and teno
hybrid matrix
naw it only works for herbies if u go into water
hybrid matrix
wut we're talking about is running into a tree
zenith onyx
its just a glitch
cyan flame
Really now? Need to find a utah to try that with
hybrid matrix
also if it were a mechanic then dont u think it should do damage?
i mean think about it
zenith onyx
But if you have proof otherwise, please show me
cyan flame
No need for damage, the point is to get the utah off
hybrid matrix
its like being hit by a car
dapper terrace
No, it causes the knock-down animation and leaves the Utah vulnerable
cyan flame
And if it does knock the utah down, like a bucking, then the utah is now vunerable
hybrid matrix
yes there is a need for damage bc tho its not entirely a realistic game physics still exists
if u were latched onto something that ran full speed at a tree then u would get fucked up
there is definitely a need for damage
cyan flame
Well, if there should be damage or not is another question. If it works with tennos/stegos is one, and one I need to find out. But I know they fixed the glitch where the utah just got suspended in the air from it, now they fall off/down
dapper terrace
The damage is you then sink your tail into them while they're vulnerable on the ground
zenith onyx
because the utah is being knocked off in a similar manner. That mechanic covers a verity of situations, but running into trees, is just a manner of tree hitboxes interfering with utah pounce hitbox
seperating the utah from the Carno
hybrid matrix
The damage is you then sink your tail into them while they're vulnerable on the ...
no the damage is GETTING UR RIBS FLATTENED BY A TREE
zenith onyx
But that's only for tentonto Moby, if a tenonto gets pounced it can buck the utah. Like in its concept art
but Stego and carno don't have that
hybrid matrix
a long time ago i suggested that stego and anky tail attacks should be extremely powerful. like if u get hit by them then ur crippled for a very long time.
do u agree?
cyan flame
Stego can buck now, and carno too I think
zenith onyx
in the fracture update, if you get hit by those powerfull moves, like the tail smash, u recieve a slight fracture to ur legs
slowing u down
hybrid matrix
Stego can buck now, and carno too I think
do u agree with the statement that stego and anky tailswipes should be crippling?
zenith onyx
i do
paper oriole
anky should do more than slight fracture lmao
hybrid matrix
anky should do more than slight fracture lmao
1 sec lemme find the link to the suggestion
cyan flame
Stego oneshots utah unless it's on the tail, I don't see an issue there?
paper oriole
I remember the suggest i think i talked with you bout it
zenith onyx
And @dapper terrace, please remove all your reactions and please just use ❌ instead.
dapper terrace
No lol
paper oriole
Might be thinkin of a diff similar one tho
zenith onyx
why?
its what i asked for
please do it
I like it when people are considerate, don't u? @dapper terrace
hybrid matrix
this isnt the exact suggestion but if u scroll down a little bit then u'll see the one im talking about #general-feedback message
if u agree that stego and anky tailswipes should do that much damage then say yes
paper oriole
Oh ya i remember havin a long talk bout that suggestion
zenith onyx
yes
paper oriole
Long lasting damage for letting yourself get fucked up by something like anky is good
hybrid matrix
i mean it makes sense
paper oriole
Anky is slow and has no choice but to fight so he should be very punishing
hybrid matrix
^
zenith onyx
I agree with that
paper oriole
Slow animals who don't have the luxury to run from a fight should have the upper hand over their enemies
zenith onyx
I think the fight between rex vs anky should be 50 50. There should be no set direction for how the fight will go. Either or should win.
hybrid matrix
alr we're starting to stray from the original discussion. the reason i brought up that stego/anky suggestion was bc i wanted to kno whether or not erik and duck agreed with it. bc that wouldve shown if they understand how physical force works. if u get rammed into a tree while ur goin at 70 kph then ur gonna take some damage
cyan flame
I get how it would work, I simply do not think it might be neccesary
Not as if utahs can't react and get off you before anyway
hybrid matrix
exactly y they should take damage if they dont jump off
zenith onyx
I think Duck was just trying to prove me wrong and show it was already a mechanic. If it was a mechanic, it would have been in the roadmap right?
hybrid matrix
bc they had the chance to, but were too stupid to take it
hybrid matrix
I think Duck was just trying to prove me wrong and show it was already a mechani...
exactly
paper oriole
I certainly hope they add collision damage for smashing utahs against surfaces cus its dumb af that a multi ton animal can smash a raptor against a hard surface and the raptor just gets bumped off
hybrid matrix
exactly
zenith onyx
I said the utah has a timer after they pounce something. So they can get off, after certain period
it just behooves the utah to pounce anything in a very open area
paper oriole
Makes pounce less busted too
thorn glacier
There should be damage, but it shouldn't be a ton of damage imo or else Utahs will never pounce
cyan flame
Well I'm not opposed to it, though I think bucking should be the main way to get a utah off you, rather than having to rely on envrionment, that should be more of a specific situation
paper oriole
Nah if its a huge animal it should be a ton of damage
cyan flame
And I'll see if I can find a utah to pounce me and knock it off my stego with a tree or rock
But they fixed the main glitch, so at least for now it sort of works like a proper mechanic
hybrid matrix
Well I'm not opposed to it, though I think bucking should be the main way to get...
it should be both. not one or the other, but both
zenith onyx
the damage would aso vary from creature to creature, depending on size, weight, and speed
zenith onyx
Dondi said that combat would later be defined by stamina, weight and speed
hybrid matrix
no not even basic, its middle school level science
zenith onyx
here it is
hybrid matrix
welp i gtg, it was fun discussing this. bye
zenith onyx
cya
solid wedge
Crocs don't really have a mound nest, they bury there eggs in the ground by digging a large hole, once laying is finished, they cover it up and stay on top of the nest and at times leaving the mound to get out of the sun, cause long instances in the sun dehydrated a crocodile
hybrid matrix
^
solid wedge
though can allow us to incubate them if we want too
It could be nice if the size of your deino changes based on gender cause male crocodiles are typically heavier and larger than their female counterparts
paper oriole
Doubt size dimorphism will be a thing since that would imevitabely result in people playing male 90% of the time for the extra weight
solid wedge
i wouldnt actually change the mass at, just make it look bigger so it still had the same stats as the females
paper oriole
that thing is a little over the top, the current cannibal concept is kinda charming in its simplicity, it's more grounded and believable
thorny crag
would love naturally growing trees but growing mountains and tranches kinda fuck the engine i guess
hybrid matrix
i think if u give the cannibals a more human face then the quiet place monster would make a good body
tight oxide
what are cannibals anyways?
paper oriole
theyre mutated humans right? probably more byproducts of appolo's genetic engineering lab shenanigans
dont think their origins are confirmed yet
tight oxide
kk
thorny crag
scary thingies
guess if they get to be op imma not gonna play on servers that enable these weird creatures
but we'll see
sudden kelp
@dapper terrace I absolutely love your suggestion
dapper terrace
Thanks! It's gotten some traction on the subreddit. I hope the Devs see it.
sudden kelp
Me too!
paper oriole
maybe a skin concepts channel would be a neat thing to have even, might be a bitch to moderate though since some people would probably throw random art shit in there or pictures they find on google
if it was used properly it could be a great channel but undoubtedly there are those who'd ruin it for everyone lol
paper oriole
quiet place monster is poopoo
zenith onyx
lol
just an example
there's nothing really out there that matches the description I was looking for...
besides a gorilla with its bitoral arms
paper oriole
tbh they should stay believable as the wacky mutants that they are not look like an alien. if its just the arms youre talking about and not pretty much anything else then yeah
zenith onyx
I just believe, it should similar looking arms, and armor, other then taht, i don't care what they do to the face
paper oriole
plus they will likely wear skin, bones, etc so chitin isn't needed in their skin
zenith onyx
IDK
it looks kinda boring if its just skin
even the dinos, which mostly just skin, look better then taht
Cannibal/Tribal in the concept art looks rather boring to me, there's nothing eye catching about besides it being strange
its not that scary
paper oriole
suppose it's all opinion, personally i think a more grounded and believable tribal is more scary than an abstract alien one but that's just me
something you can see the sillouhette of in the forest that looks like a man but doesn't just enough to give off those uncanny valley vibes ya kno
plus if they can salvage bones, horns, skin, teeth etc they can make themselves look more badass
zenith onyx
eh, its just stuff they've taken off other animals/dinos. Its kinda boring. But its natutally apart of them, its even scarier
And sorry everyone for how much I was deleting my suggestion, I just wanted to fix some things.
paper oriole
what are his back legs doing
zenith onyx
lol
barren zephyr
The feet should either be plantigrade (like those a normal human has) or digitigrade (like theropod dinosaurs, dogs and so forth)
barren zephyr
The toes should support the weight, because it makes most sense.
Unless you want it breaking it's joints.
zenith onyx
it would work well against bone break lol
paper oriole
"you can't break my leg if i break it myself!"
azure wadi
Putting a check on your own suggestion 
strange wave
@maiden anvil one problem other than that progression is bad, alberto... is not a pseudo apex
maiden anvil
Alrighty
I guess it’s better to give apexes just an extremely long growth timer instead. And make them no more entertaining than any other animal
strange wave
see, the problem with progression is it made other animals seem inferior to ones further on down the tree, so, all the special abilities would be wasted because, say, why would i play allo with its grapple ability when giga is bigger and requires more work so its obviously better
maiden anvil
Alright that is a very VERY good point! Thx for correcting me
@frozen heron the main idea of sleeping is for other to see you are logging
strange wave
elders arent a normal growth stage, you have to do very specific things to become one, so, unless you want to block skill paths and remove diet buffs that wont work to prevent mega groups
solar iron
@maiden anvil completely agreed with your group limitation suggestion. It is sad but I found many ppl form big carni+herbi groups without being in an actual group and they work together to corpseguard and KOS without any reason. I think your suggestion should be applied between different species as well.
maiden anvil
I was thinking of that @solar iron then I remember different species will probably thrive in different areas because of the food that grows at each place
@strange wave I saw you didn’t like my idea of overcrowded stuff and you helped me explain why my previous one didn’t do too good either. Could you help me see the issue of this one?
strange wave
there is other ways to prevent mega herds, diets are the main one, when food is something that can run out mega herds will disband and spread out
maiden anvil
Well not too bad of a point. Depending on how it ends up with foods and all that, I’ll probably resuggest my suggestion. Btw, thanks again!
dapper pulsar
Having Progression again would help justify why our Spinosaurids look like a Pokemon Evolution line.
hybrid matrix
Plz show this to me
barren zephyr
I'll agree, the fps issue is a real bummer. Got a great pc but no matter what my frames get stuck at 10.
Draws me away from the game as a whole.
I don't have this issue on Legacy
It's frustrating cause I really want to play on Evrima too but I can't due to the FPS issue. And it happens on any server I go on. Even if I turn off Global chat.
arctic nimbus
@maiden anvil There should be a way to stop megapacks, I agree, but the problem is that there is an option to not be an elder in the first place. It would be totally ineffective to some people. They might choose a different path.
barren zephyr
I already suggested some feedback to stop overpacking carnis
just give them a debuff so they can't kill things as easily
and it's somewhere up in #general-feedback
barren zephyr
the entire "debuff overpacking carnivores" thing would suck for servers who actually thrive on mega packs or generally just have large packing limits
strange wave
group limits will be adjustable, why would this not be as well?
barren zephyr
the entire "debuff overpacking carnivores" thing would suck for servers who actu...
I mean... that's the servers fault. I'd guess the server would have the choice to turn overpacking debuff off via game.ini
If that'll be an option in the future yes
I'm not familiar with config files in the isle
no worries- I believe the devs want Admins and server owners to have more say and opinion via admin boards in their server
that'd be sick
I say, around update 4 (UI update), that admins will have a lot MORE Power... especially with admin ranks being a thing planned
oh admin ranks?
i never heard about those
"Customizable Admin Ranks/Permissions"
sudden kelp
So in update 4 servers could have good rules and prevent megapacks.
barren zephyr
So in update 4 servers could have good rules and prevent megapacks.
Admins will basically be more gods then spectating humans now
I'd say- if they implement a megapack debuff (either Carni and/or Herbi)
Admins will have a say
alongside maybe, being able to pick how many players are allowed per group
etc
sudden kelp
Yeah like in legacy if you have more than say 10 utahs in your group you get banned
Orwarned
barren zephyr
true
what admins want to do and choose to do, is up to the admins themselves... with the guide of the in-game base limitations
sudden kelp
Yeah
I hate when I spawn in the centre as a teno and there are 10 utahs 6 carnos and 8 stegos just fucking everyone up
safe galleon
@sudden kelp that's basically what compy is going to do
sudden kelp
Oh rly lesgooo. Do u know when it will be added?
safe galleon
it's not on the roadmap, altough that can change, so probably not soon
real kraken
@plucky ridge The deino grows for 24 in game hours before it stops
real kraken
no I mean playing for 24 hours
hybrid matrix
ohhhhh
real kraken
like sat in the game for 24 hours
hybrid matrix
i thought u meant 1 day/night cycle
real kraken
nah 😆 , that would be op to grow
hybrid matrix
yea
barren zephyr
24 hours holy shit wtf
hybrid matrix
Also I would just like to highlight the fact that I just wrote an essay on shit
maiden anvil
@hybrid matrix if something I would give your suggestion a ✅ because I can immediately see why feces would be something great
But only for tracking purposes. Like you are able to tell from the poop how long ago the creature was there
safe galleon
the difference between vomit and shit/piss is that vomit uses the mouth and piss/shit use... well you know
safe galleon
vomit is full of stomach acids, but shit isnt
what? I was talking about which orifices they use
hybrid matrix
what? I was talking about which orifices they use
oh
blissful wren
“Puppies” lol
barren zephyr
I'm a suggestion
blissful wren
Poop suggestion = Shitgestion
strange wave
@plucky ridge it was going to happen, then they realized how broken and op that is and scrapped it, its not coming back
paper oriole
Upvoting ur own suggestion 
barren zephyr
I like to toot my horn while patting my back. :3
hybrid matrix
i feel like few ppl actually read and considered mine b4 ❌ marking it. not saying this bc im selfish or anything, it's just that i spent 10 minutes writing about why shit is a great thing to add to the game and I'm not getting the credit i deserve lmao
i wrote an essay about shit and havent received one compliment about it yet
i deserve a "shit" ton of compliments XD
paper oriole
i complement your bravery to write an essay long shit suggestion in isle feedback
barren zephyr
You realize the second you told people not to X it, they were gonna X it
inner hound
no peepeepoopoo thanks
barren zephyr
poor carno i feel is suffering the most from the weightless issue
night mountain
how much damage should brachi puke do i think it should one shot a hypsi
summer fern
agreed
night mountain
genuinely though I think it'd be a fun defensive option, shitloads of animals irl puke in defense and vomit mechanics and animations will already exist so like, why not??
make it also give anything it hits a scent effect so anything nearby can smell them from far away, so like hit an apex and everything else nearby knows its there and maybe hurt
summer fern
i actually really like the idea because if you think about it some of what's in vomit is stomach acid and the hypsi also technically does something similar
paper oriole
Acid from brachi puke gives you durability debuff
night mountain
like imagine being a rex and you attack a brachi, fail, and now you're in trouble since you can't smell anything and everything else can smell you from a mile away, have fun hunting
summer fern
and what you can do is swim for a specific amount of time or roll in mud to try and get it off
night mountain
deino moment
summer fern
exactly. its the perfect way to limit apexes while forcing things to potentially go near large bodies of water where deinos will hide
it gives a lot more people a chance to survive
jagged heath
@plucky ridge, I saw your thing, technically all dinos will grow to hypos/neuros
icy lion
all dinos can become elders, only a few will be able to be strains
carmine bridge
i feel like few ppl actually read and considered mine b4 ❌ marking it. not sayin...
nah i read the whole thing
(unfortunately)
barren zephyr
The isle: shit evolved
empty cargo
I can agree on marking territory or scent by scratching trees. Yeah I read the whole thing to, unfortunately.. ugh
cobalt compass
@shut raft
its heavely unlikely that a carry mechanic will be implemented, since it doesnt suit every species and the ones that could, would gain an advantage over other. thats just one balance reason, other are eg carrying a hatchling so long that its either subadult or, what i guess would the case doesnt grow at all while being held.
paper geyser
stego wallow should also do self damage due to all the broken ribs and ruptured organs
glass mulch
crshhhhhhhh
cobalt compass
mhm, if the animation would be slowed a bit i would deem it fit
paper geyser
i just find it ridiculous how it goes on its side at all
that thing weighs what, like 6 tonnes?
but im just nitpicking as always
barren zephyr
going to be honest, make the animation slower and decrease how muddy it gets
honestly Teno gets less mud for a better and more realistic wallow
paper oriole
Hypsi is a bottom of the food chain rat of a dino of course it should wallow faster, other dinos in its tier should too
Hypsi should honestly dust bathe instead of wallowing anyway but that aint likely to be added lol
valid zephyr
tbh not a fan of hypsi wallowing like that at all. It should dust bath with those feathers.
rocky aspen
ashen wasp
mhm-- still think feathered animals should dustbathe on that texture used for roads-- same effect, just neater. Maybe other animals can use it, too, just without the scent-masking. the game just needs more stuff to do
safe galleon
@cerulean yew wrong channel
safe galleon
ask in isle disussion
zenith onyx
@cerulean yew Please type that here
cerulean yew
mk sheeesh
zenith onyx
That channel is for posting ideas, not commenting on them
cerulean yew
hey 3%
so i think it should have a different take
@zenith onyx
i think the cannibal should be a playable dinosaur but should not be an apex killer or apex at all
i think it should be like stronger than an allo but weaker than rex
and playable
or if u want it to be an apex killer make the growth time something extremely large
zenith onyx
We'd have the same problems though we had with the Hypos on the Chinese servers though if it was available 24/7 to the public
cerulean yew
hypos are broken they were a bad idea
zenith onyx
And with a creature like that, I'd think the Devs would give it a large growth time
cerulean yew
i think it could work tho
zenith onyx
And even in its concept art, its taking down apexes, it would be fine
narrow sorrel
my
zenith onyx
my Idea was to call that monster the Cannibal instead though
cerulean yew
i feel like it should walk on fours tho
and stand up slightly when not moving
but sprinting it runs liek a dog
zenith onyx
it could walk/run on all fours, but stand up to smell?
cerulean yew
so maybye it could be significantly fast but not as strong
zenith onyx
call out even.
barren zephyr
The concept art you showed is the hypo colossus
zenith onyx
ik that
cerulean yew
oh thats kinda smart
zenith onyx
Im suggesting we'd change the name
zenith onyx
lol
cerulean yew
also i think it should not be big
heres a thread
its very fast and light so lowish health not like low but like not more than a rex and it runs faster than like a pachy it has pretty medium stamina but it uses its forearms like the theri and its powerful jaw to do a fk ton of damage
not crazy damage but a significant amount
it can say 3 shot a rex but also gets 2 shot by rexs
make it not fast enough to chase down allos ceras etc
zenith onyx
So your suggesting Theri speed, not super strong but strong enough to counter rex, yet weak enough to be killed by apexes if the Apex player plays it smart?
cerulean yew
yes
i think its health should be the shitty part of him
so anything can fight against it
zenith onyx
not anything
cerulean yew
but it can also destroy almost anything
well obviously not like pachys utahs etc
but they can if its sticky utah XD
zenith onyx
I don't see an Allo or an Alberto ever trying against this thing, its too big, and too fast
they'd get crushed
lol
cerulean yew
exactly like they can try but 90% of the time will fail unless they are good enough
zenith onyx
I like that
cerulean yew
i feel like it would take an extremely good allo and a not so good cannibal
zenith onyx
yeah lol
cerulean yew
like not crazy skill difference but enough
like i mean just give it basic bleed heal i guess
zenith onyx
I was thinking about a unique mechanic for the Cannibal, but I couldn't help thinking about evolves goliath, which got me thinking. Maybe it could throw large rocks?
cerulean yew
but allo if ambush spams could bleed it out in 4-7 bites depending on sprinting
paper oriole
Why is the cannibal just hyper colossus lol
cerulean yew
it gets 1 shot but doesnt die it just3rd screen and bleeding a decent amount that it would have to stop the fight unless a group
paper oriole
So you want to wipe tribals and just replace them with hyper colossus …
cerulean yew
like if hit by cannibal it has to sit within 20-30 seconds
i think it would be fair enough that 3-5 allos could fight it if theyre smart
zenith onyx
no, I want to wipe the concept for Cannibal, and replace it with the Hyper COlossus, but seperate the Tribals as human
cerulean yew
itd be carnivore right
paper oriole
Well that's lame lol
cerulean yew
what would its bleed be like
zenith onyx
maybe like a giga?
cerulean yew
should damage go down and bleed go up?
cvuz the claws would be bleedy?
like 25% damage nerf and dilo bleed?
zenith onyx
actually revise that, its seems more like the punching type, so damage dealer, not bleed dealer
cerulean yew
ye makes sense
so like it has bleedy but not enough to bleed a rex with 2 hits
it has to hit it 3 times
zenith onyx
light bleed, because it has claws
cerulean yew
like bleed would rlly matter tbh
zenith onyx
yah
paper oriole
Because cannibals as a concept were an entirely different thing. That's like saying replace velociraptor with megalosaurus, they're totally unrelated one can't replace the other
cerulean yew
it can chase a lot down and do so much damage few would live
paper oriole
Hyper colossus is probably planned to be used already in a different way
zenith onyx
Dondi said that the Cannibal/tribal were going to be the same thing, is really boring, why have 2 of the same thing?! its pointless
paper oriole
Its two names for the same thing …
cerulean yew
i think rex duos or any apex duo or ceras carnos and allos etc packs should be able to fight a solo cannibal but in a 1v1 it should break down to skill
zenith onyx
and 2 differen't model concepts
azure wadi
Wait, are they suggesting that we make the cannibal have the colossus look?
cerulean yew
not really its justa thought
paper oriole
Seems he wants to straight up replace it with HC
zenith onyx
but keep the Tribal as something totally differen't yes
cerulean yew
more like based off the collosus but could be redesigned
zenith onyx
cya
azure wadi
Yeah but why replace the cannibal design with the colossus, their 2 completely different things, colossus is supposed to be a giant monster while the cannibal is a smaller agile more human creature
paper oriole
Also why take the mutant human cannibal and turn it into generic hulk monster lol
zenith onyx
like I said before, why have 2 concept for the same thing, the Cannibal and the tribal "are supposed to be the same," - Dondi
alright you clearly didn't understand my post
Im suggesting the Cannibal be the Colossus, but still be called the Cannibal
And taht the Tribal be the mutated human instead of the cannibal
paper oriole
So youre just suggesting renaming HC
zenith onyx
yes
paper oriole
Thas gay
zenith onyx
alright u clearly don't understanding the meaning of the word gay
azure wadi
The cannibal is a mutated human, the colossus is something else plus colossus makes a lot more sense than cannibal for that creature
paper oriole
Its hyper colossus because it is like the founding hyperendocrin mutant
Why rename it
zenith onyx
because hypos are being removed
dreamy wharf
Kowalski, I need you to run an analysis. It seems there's a back and fourth in here not held in any sort of faith, and will literally go nowhere.
azure wadi
https://tenor.com/view/skipper-madagascar-penguins-of-madagascar-you-didnt-see-anything-gif-15715770
paper oriole
If hypers were being removed why did we get a new hyper rex concept, have any evidence?
paper oriole
I probably should but i wanna shittalk some more
safe galleon
why?
zenith onyx
bye bye
safe galleon
because hypos are being removed
azure wadi
I’ve never seen a more pathetic and cowardly retreat
zenith onyx
lol
paper oriole
Big oof
paper oriole
At least you honest about it I guess lol
zenith onyx
look, sorry if I upset you
paper oriole
Im not upset, only confused as to why you want to rename HC when its name fits
zenith onyx
well, right now, the isle hasn't released anything about it, and so i thought it could work to put a difference between Cannibals and tribals
make them seperate
there's no need to have the same creature twice, just named differen'tly
paper oriole
Hyper colossus, Tisso reaper, and Neurotenic mastermind are a set and it wouldn't make sense to rename one.
azure wadi
What do you mean hasn’t released any thing about it, we have concept art for it and the cannibal and tribals, all are very different looking, the only similarities are that they are all mutants
zenith onyx
how on earth are they going to introduce them to the isle? what would be their purpose besides lore?
azure wadi
zenith onyx
so is my idea such a bad idea then?
paper oriole
Yes
zenith onyx
there's no evidence that my idea couldn't work
azure wadi
Yes because it’s renaming and changing already established creatures
paper oriole
Because hyper colossus is hyper colossus, not a cannibal
zenith onyx
there's no conept design for what these things will fill.
azure wadi
What
paper oriole
Oro and hypsi are too similar, let's remove oro and just rename albertosaurus oro because neither are added yet!
zenith onyx
how is hypsi similar to oro?
paper oriole
They are very similar animals originally but the devs made them different enough to work that's how it is comparable
zenith onyx
so your suggesting they do the same thing with Cannibals and tribals?
paper oriole
No i was saying how ridiculous it is
azure wadi
paper oriole
How we barely know enough to complain, let them release some new info and dossiers before saying they're too similar
zenith onyx
dondi said they were same thing...
azure wadi
Evidence?
azure wadi
Also apparently to you Dondi said that hypos were being renamed elders
paper oriole
So are they going to be merged into one entity
Lmao what he thinks hypers are being replaced with elders
zenith onyx
azure wadi
I don’t get how that’s a valid reason to rename the colossus, these 2 creatures are the same with different names so I shall move one of the names to a completely unrelated creature and remove its unique name
paper oriole
Plus colossus is a part of a trio so it would look dumb af with some new name
dreamy wharf
Anyways, I'm sure if it'll get renamed it'll get renamed. It's something so stupidly small even if there was some reality where it could feasibly happen it wouldn't really matter.
azure wadi
Also cannibals fits the tribals because they are human like creatures that eat humans, the colossus is a sauropod sized monster with little to no resemblance with humans
paper oriole
How about thinking of good ways to make cannibal unique rather than dubbing a totally unrelated creature with its name
zenith onyx
I tried that, didn't work
paper oriole
Turning it into quiet place monster is lazy
zenith onyx
then what would u suggest it be like?
i haven't seen u post any ideas on this topic ever
paper oriole
Nothing because im fine with what i've seen of it and am patient for more info 
stoic merlin
3% u realize those things u call "cannibals" are Hyperendocrin Colossus
barren zephyr
Why not just have the "tribals" as the cannibals instead
paper oriole
He does and doesnt seem to care lol
stoic merlin
3% u realize those things u call "cannibals" are Hyperendocrin Colossus
it even has a model
zenith onyx
what wrong with me posting an idea as to how it could work?
stoic merlin
cuz its too late
paper oriole
I'd merge tribals and cannibals into one thing honestly yeah not rename HC for no reason
Nothing wrong with posting ideas just expect criticism
zenith onyx
i do expect tjat
stoic merlin
cuz its too late
if it was just unnamed concept, then yes, but it has a model, name and purpose already
paper oriole
HC probably will wipe ecosystems, hypers do that in general
stoic merlin
I've never heard anyhting about the Hyper colossus
google it smh
every strain has a colossus
zenith onyx
that's what i suggested, but specialized for apexes
paper oriole
Other two in the trio
They are already designed and named and linked to each strain, probably as the original mutants, so no point in changing that
stoic merlin
^
zenith onyx
whatever
barren zephyr
I couldn't see something like a colossus as big as a sauropod, thinking of brachi. Just looks super goofy to me.
paper oriole
It does look goofy but hey so does our spino now it's what the devs wanna do so they gonna do
barren zephyr
You're 100% correct
rare axle
@barren zephyr watch out with #general-feedback you can't discuss there
rare axle
Dw just telling you before a mod notice lmao
Basically the channel you talked in is for feedback for the devs to read
And here we talk about it usually
severe idol
We noticed and were about to say something. Lol
barren zephyr
XD sorry my bad
severe idol
It happens.
barren zephyr
^^
median ore
i feel like few ppl actually read and considered mine b4 ❌ marking it. not sayin...
So. No, dude. We DID read all of it.... but the suggestion is 1) redundant to current mechanics as far as tracking goes, 2) offensive to the vast majority of people's sensibilties despite realism. (I work with horses. They shit constantly. I am use to poop. I can still recognize the vast majority of people think poop is gross.)
As for scent marking -- no need for the piss. Rubbing on objects would work fine. I also disagree that you shouldn't be able to tell WHAT left the mark... that defeats the purpose of marking territory.
If a Rex is cocky enough to mark it's turf, it wants EVERYTHING to know a Rex is in the area. It's a calling card for challenges, it's own species -- and a warning to everything else.
severe idol
There's a peculiar demand for pee and poo.
median ore
Ngl... I have a funny feeling I know why.
So, again. To not cater to that demographic: no.
severe idol
The Pee-pee Poo-poo Man.
median ore
Aaanywho. I DO want scent marking and differences in the smell of dinos. Even if it's so much as "this is a carnivore smell", "this is a herbivore smell", "this is an apex smell" - it'd add a lot more realism to the game. Even if it's strictly only allowed in optional, intentional scent markings.
Since I get why making dino scents all different and trackable can be a big issue (cough BoB cough).
barren zephyr
Dinosaurs don't even mark territories with feces or urine.
well yes but the idea of animations and shit like that is so bad for the isle that its never gonna happen, its basiclly whatever dino can kill and fend off whatever steps in its territory has claimed it
:>
doesnt have to be big just has to be the last carnivore willing to contest over that territory
safe warren
3 dumbies that voted as "no" dont understand utah's anim in evrima is currently just copy casted from austroraptor's animation from the legacy👍 💩
paper oriole
More about
Jurassic park movie anim lol
Utah is already enough of a shameless jp clone as it is
arctic nimbus
3 dumbies that voted as "no" dont understand utah's anim in evrima is currently ...
Or maybe they simply don't agree with you. Lol
paper oriole
“People downvoted my suggestion? They dummies lol”
safe warren
Thats a fact its an austro's anim not an oppinion.
arctic nimbus
It isn't. And how is copying the JP raptor animations going to solve that even if it was?
hybrid matrix
So. No, dude. We DID read all of it.... but the suggestion is 1) redundant to cu...
im glad that u did read the suggestion, tbh i was surprised when ppl said they read it. i mean its literally a mini essay about shit, so i didnt rlly expect ppl to read it.
valid zephyr
utahs animations should be kept as far away from JP as physically possable.
hybrid matrix
2 things
1, I dont think it should be in u hold alt bc thats already got a use
2, Holding R would be a pain in the ass when trying to kill something small so it should just have to press R. other than that its not such a bad idea
steady solar
what use does alt have?
steady solar
and I mean in evrima
hybrid matrix
i kno
steady solar
cause in legacy ik
hybrid matrix
it does have a use in evrima
if u hold alt then u can look around while holding W and ur dino wont change directions
steady solar
ah
well still its just a key so its not that important
the position of the button is basically irrelevant and I just gave examples
hybrid matrix
the way u said it in ur suggestion says otherwise
u should rephrase that part of the suggestion
also for the first person camera idea instead of holding R it rlly should be just tapping R
steady solar
eh idc if it's hold or tap, I just put hold cause why not
hybrid matrix
i just told u y not
steady solar
since I assume youd wanna shift between the two faster
hybrid matrix
it would be insanely infuriating
steady solar
well yeah if youre always in it
but it's not meant to be smth you're in for too long
hybrid matrix
i'd rather not have to worry about holding it so i can hunt something small
steady solar
just hold it until you get a hit or miss it then shift back and reposition
hybrid matrix
i kno, im not saying that it should be, im just saying it would be so much easier to just tap it
steady solar
think about this
if your cam is next to ur head it will be not very stable and also your field of view will be so small the tiny thing will just duck under you and get out of sight
or just to the side
it's meant to be a very temporary thing
just to aim a bit better
and in an fps for example you dont stay in your sniper scope all the time
you shoot, go normal, check surroundings, scope again\
although I think maybe the decision for it being tap and hold could be smth in the meny
menu
cause people will have preferences
hybrid matrix
and in an fps for example you dont stay in your sniper scope all the time
ok ur rlly just sticking to a useless argument because i never said it should be a permanent thing. if its just a one time tap and then u dont have to worry about holding the key then u can just tap it again when u wanna leave first person cam
its as simple as that
steady solar
by all the time I don't mean literally 100% of the time, like while youre trying to kill someone you wont always be scoped up. I assume you know I don't think you would stay in this mode literally all the time
hybrid matrix
by all the time I don't mean literally 100% of the time, like while youre trying...
how on gods green earth did u get that from me saying "its easier to just tap it so u can stay in it for as long as u want and then if u tap it again u go back to 3rd person cam"
steady solar
ok ur rlly just sticking to a useless argument because i never said it should be...
I was replying to this. explaining what I meant in my analogy
I'm not even saying it's a complete shit idea, to me that's just how you would prefer to do it
but since it's smth a bit technical I would rather the player to have the choice of which option they want
just to save some hassle and complaints
hybrid matrix
u think ppl r gonna complain about having to tap a key to enter 1st person camera and then tap it again to exit 1st person?
steady solar
what I gained from this was that aight some people would want it to be tap. fair enough. before I was just explainng my logic for having it be hold and not tap
people complain about less so yeah
hybrid matrix
yes but ur analogy isnt perfect
zinc anvil
first person for what?
steady solar
and then you think ppl would complain about having to hold a key to go into 1st person?
of course, no analogy is perfect
if people complain about one they will complain about the other, so yes it is better to let them have the option to choose themselves
hybrid matrix
but urs is nowhere near perfect, most analogies make sense, but in TI its not like ur a sniper who is hidden and u can shoot something from long range. u actually have to run in and bite it. the sniper analogy makes no sense
steady solar
christ stop sticking to that. you knew what I meant so the analogy wokrs
hybrid matrix
sticking to what
steady solar
no need to take it further than that
hybrid matrix
im just explaining y ur analogy makes no sense
steady solar
my lord
hybrid matrix
yes?
hybrid matrix
i just wanted to explain y ur analogy sucked thats all
steady solar
I think we both know why it's not perfect
you don't need to be all like well actually about it
hybrid matrix
if u want a better analogy then u could compare it to trying to hit a reaper leviathan with a gas torpedo in subnautica
steady solar
works just cause it's both for aiming that you shift in and out of. that gets the point across and I have no desire to come up with something more accurate just for this
hybrid matrix
my subnautica analogy is pretty good tho u gotta admit
steady solar
and it makes your fov smaller
hybrid matrix
lmao
steady solar
I don't even play subnautica so idk and tbh idc.
you still got the point
which is what I was after
hybrid matrix
but did u get my point?
steady solar
that my analogy was not the best and some people find it better for it to be tap and not hold? yes
hybrid matrix
that my analogy was not the best and some people find it better for it to be tap...
no the point is that tapping is better than holding
steady solar
for you yes
objectively it's not
and holding
is not
objectively better either
we disagree on which would be most comfortable and you have to see that if you think that way yes people will agree but guess what some would also disagree
I know so since I am such a person
and there is a simple way to appease both parties so why not take that route
hybrid matrix
objectively it is bc of logic!!! would u want to hold a key while trying to ram a utahraptor thats in a bush while also avoiding getting pounced by other raptors??? tapping is objectively better bc it means u only have to worry about changing ur POV when ur not busy moving to avoid the 6 inch claws about to be sunk into ur thicc carno ass
dapper pulsar
I prefer holding.
hybrid matrix
how
steady solar
yes I would want to hold it, so I could switch much more fluidly, when I need to hit someone I use my normal cam to align myself and hold when I get close then release
SHOCKER. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS
WHAT A FUCKING GREEK TRAGEDY
hybrid matrix
WHAT A FUCKING GREEK TRAGEDY
ikr?
steady solar
again this is but a difference of opinion and how you'd use the button. since this can be solved easily I'd prefer to do it that way
hybrid matrix
also tf do u mean more fluidly??? its not like it's gonna fade into 3rd person view if u tap it
its not like crouching in PC where u do a whole animation if u have it set so that u can just tap crouch
like how would the camera change more fluidly XD
steady solar
I find it much more natural when I need to aim for a second or so
that's what I mean by that
FOR ME tapping would feel clunkier
hybrid matrix
oh so u mean the transition from key to key
i mean it would make it much harder to move if ur holding it so in that sense its less fluid
dapper pulsar
It feels nicer to continuously do the action by holding it's button rather than a toggle in my mind.
steady solar
when holding it's just one button press you go in and go out, when while its tap youd have to keep your concentration on tapping it again. for me not that comfortable
do you really not see how someone can have a different opinion?
dapper pulsar
For shorter actions that is, toggle is better for extended things.
steady solar
if not then why are you even talking still?
dapper pulsar
In ma mind.
hybrid matrix
when holding it's just one button press you go in and go out, when while its tap...
i mean, u need to concentrate on holding it too soooooo...
hybrid matrix
if not then why are you even talking still?
tbh im having a lot of fun fucking with u rn sooooo....
thats seriously the only reason im still here
otherwise i wouldve left the conversation like 10 minutes ago
steady solar
could you not do that when I'm trying to just be of help to the game? I like fucking with people too just when it's the time and place for it
zinc anvil
3rd person only for creatures 1st person only for humans i fixed it stop fighting about this like children ffs
hybrid matrix
could you not do that when I'm trying to just be of help to the game? I like fuc...
so when exactly is the right time or place
steady solar
well at least now I know you're not actually that fucking dumb so imma go ig
hybrid matrix
well at least now I know you're not actually that fucking dumb so imma go ig
if i can come up with 2 valid reasons on why shitting and pissing should be added in then i think i qualify as smart
not to mention including mechanics on how u can hide the scent or how it can be useful
steady solar
I'd be extatic if shit and piss were added. There are so many reasons for them to exist and the only real ones against are "ew stinky poo"
And that's only half a joke
dapper pulsar
What reasons?
steady solar
Is that a legitimate question?
dapper pulsar
Yes.
dapper pulsar
I don't see it for those.
hybrid matrix
I don't see it for those.
how the fuck did u read that essay and not think to urself how beneficial bodily waste would be
it answers two very important questions
where tf is ur food going
and where tf is ur water going
hybrid matrix
Those don't need to be answered.
EXCEPT THE FUCKING DO
WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENS TO THE FOOD IN UR HUNGER BAR
DINOSAURS DONT FUCKING SWEAT SO WHERE IS THE WATER GOING
steady solar
- It indicates activity. Based on the size, amount and smell you could determine what animal that was, how many of them there were as well as how long ago, since shit would stay longer than footprints.
- Gives you smth else to do. We know to gets branded as a walking simulator and this would help give you more stuff to do that falls in line with actual survival. There would be tactics to where you shit and penalties if you don't, discouraging afk. Disgusting yes but gouging out organs and eating raw flesh from the corpse is too.
- A place to hide for juvies- in the wild small animals can hide inside of huge shit piles to deter predators and mask their scent.
- A very good taunt. Yes not too important but we dont have anything like it and just shitting on someone is a very good way to invite rage, a valid tactic in a fight
dapper pulsar
New methods of tracking don't seem to be a substantial gain, marking territory could be replaced by something else, compy's fine without it, and I don't think that managing your waste would add too much over the food and water management we already have.
steady solar
It's a video game.
That is a dumb reply. Yes it's a game and it doesn't need to exist. Guess fucking what. Neither does anything else in the game. Scent, wallowing, pouncing. It's all technically unnecessary, ofc if the devs don't want it they don't have to add it, but that doesn't make the stuff it brings invalid
steady solar
New methods of tracking don't seem to be a substantial gain, marking territory c...
Believe me the more small things there are the better. Even smth tiny can add a lot of depth to this when combines with all other mechanics. Again no it's not necessary but again nothin is
If you don't like it that's fine
It's understandable
It's piss and shit after all
But you cannot deny it would add a good amount to the game
Doing so would be dishonest
hybrid matrix
also if u use the "its gross" argument then how r u ok with puke and rotting carcasses
steady solar
People are ok with different things eo it can be more gross but yeah making it an actual argument is dumn
An objective argument
hybrid matrix
It's piss and shit after all
but puke isnt gross?
steady solar
It's gross indeed, just to some it's not as gross
dapper pulsar
But why waste?
steady solar
Mirror, we ask if you can give objective reasons for waste being harmful to the game
dapper pulsar
I don't give a shit about barf, but they're already adding it so it's not something I can really debate.
hybrid matrix
Mirror, we ask if you can give objective reasons for waste being harmful to the ...
it isnt
bc barfing is in the game
hybrid matrix
I don't give a shit about barf, but they're already adding it so it's not someth...
how can u give a shit about barf if u dont want shit in the game tho 😎
steady solar
But why waste?
Because it's a natural base part of biology, one that's often overlooked but holds a lot of potential
At least you're not calling us coprophiliacs for once so thanks
hybrid matrix
Because it's a natural base part of biology, one that's often overlooked but hol...
its the same with dinofucking
it adds to the experience
but its often overlooked ||BECAUSE ITS FUCKING DISGUSTING||
steady solar
Yeah
steady solar
I do want dino fucking just cause it's the most real explanation but I'm ok if the blurr it or smtb
hybrid matrix
I do want dino fucking just cause it's the most real explanation but I'm ok if t...
exactly bc its FUCKING DISGUSTING
steady solar
Indeed
steady solar
For some reason people believe that those who want shit and piss don't think it's gross
hybrid matrix
For some reason people believe that those who want shit and piss don't think it'...
obviously its gross, but its also useful and just a good idea in general
steady solar
Agreed
If it didn't bring anything cool to the game not so many people would want it
Like getting infected from 1 bite and dying. Realistic but not fun at all
So most don't want it
dapper pulsar
It's nothing. It adds nothing. Option 1 is covered by footprints, which you somewhat admitted. Option 2 is just "It's another thing" and there are ways of discouraging AFK growth already planned. 3. Juvis are small, they have plenty of hides. 4. No.
steady solar
No it's not covered. Footprints are a temporary thing whereas waste would linger for a good bit acting as a long term tracker
hybrid matrix
It's nothing. It adds nothing. Option 1 is covered by footprints, which you some...
also "no" isnt a reason
dapper pulsar
Crouch repeatedly if you want to taunt.
steady solar
I think discouraging afk by just debugging you sucks so I would want to give people something to do also and guess what waste is very integral to wildlife so it works. 3 works as several things. Yes juvis can hide well but giving more places is always good. It's also a defense whereas now juvis are pretty vulnerable. Also an immediate scent masker when you need to move as much as you can
steady solar
Crouch repeatedly if you want to taunt.
Guess stego reno and slow crouches fuck themselves
Also
dapper pulsar
They can.
steady solar
Shitting on someone is so much more effective you would not believe. Crouch is just a cheeky heeheehoohoo
While defecating right next to someone is saying yes your area of residence is my fucking toilet what you gonna do about it
Again it's not important but
Still effective
dapper pulsar
What is the big reason for adding waste?
steady solar
I just listed several
hybrid matrix
What is the big reason for adding waste?
we have spent 20 minutes listing them
steady solar
Ig the umbrella one is filling out daily life with more survival aspects for your dino
Adding even just a little more to your constant activities can be an enormous boost to enjoyability when stacked with everything else
dapper pulsar
we have spent 20 minutes listing them
These are the big reasons?
steady solar
These are the big reasons?
Bitch. What.
dapper pulsar
Bitch. What.
This is just things that are already in the game again, and new things that could probably be covered better by other things.
The new thing is territory marking.
steady solar
Is there a way to tell someone was here around 5 mins ago? Along with diet and suze
hybrid matrix
The new thing is territory marking.
compy dung beetle niche: am i a joke to u?
dapper pulsar
Suze?
dapper pulsar
Oh.
dapper pulsar
compy dung beetle niche: am i a joke to u?
Yes.
steady solar
As well as detereant from attacking a baby as well as expanding on shit. Yeah wow it's alr here so let's leave this mechanic without making more of it. Swimming goes to fuck itself now
hybrid matrix
Yes.
ah ok so ur just close-minded about this issue
u just dont care how good our arguments are, u just dont want shit in the game
steady solar
And by that I mean expanding on your survival needs
dapper pulsar
I don't want shit for these reasons.
hybrid matrix
I don't want shit for these reasons.
wut reasons
u have given us no reasons
steady solar
Not just intake of food, but also output
dapper pulsar
wut reasons
u have given us no reasons
The reasons that have been listed.
By you two, not me.
I'm not in favor of this, that's why I haven't given you reasons for it.
steady solar
That everything is alr covered? That it doesn't need to be here? It's gross?
Are those the reasons?
hybrid matrix
I'm not in favor of this, that's why I haven't given you reasons for it.
im asking u to give reasons y it shouldnt be in the game dude
and u havent given us a single one
dapper pulsar
That everything is alr covered? That it doesn't need to be here? It's gross?
For it not being added? Yeah. It's too close to other things, nothing does, I don't care about it being gross, I never brought that up.
steady solar
Everything waste does it's alr covered
steady solar
For it not being added? Yeah. It's too close to other things, nothing does, I do...
It's not that close. Yeah close but guess what shitting is close to eating. It's meant to be integrated with everything else not just being it's standalone thing
It would fit well into the game and give more of a sense of realism to these creatures. Breathing even more life into your gameplay
It's not like a flying dino that just does things on it's own
hybrid matrix
For it not being added? Yeah. It's too close to other things, nothing does, I do...
first of all saying the uses are already covered isnt an argument bc u could say the same thing about putting Smaug from The Hobbit into the Legacy branch. Smaug's purpose is already covered by gigas and rexes and spinos
but thats not a reason that u shouldnt add smaug. the reason to not add smaug is BC HE A FUCKIN FIREBREATING DRAGON
steady solar
It's like a deino, working together with established parts of the game and expanding on them
steady solar
first of all saying the uses are already covered isnt an argument bc u could say...
Bad argument. Dont
hybrid matrix
Bad argument. Dont
tbh i kinda want smaug to be in the game now XD
steady solar
Scent yes it's covered but not in the long term. When footprints are gone? Not a trace of a dino being there
steady solar
Oh it does
hybrid matrix
What new things does it add?
now ur just being dense
SCROLL UP THROUGH THE FUCKING CHAT
steady solar
You're taking all of the functions one by one and not all together
And no not really
New shit to do in your daily routine, new options on tactical placement and timing
dapper pulsar
The total thing is worth the sum of it's parts in my mind.
steady solar
Did you also count how all those parts work together with the rest of the game?
Cause saying "it's not a totally 100% new original mechanic so doesn't count" is a bad argument
Cause it's an expansion and addition to other mechanics
It's also simple and very basic for a living thing to do
dapper pulsar
These reasons really don't make sense to me.
hybrid matrix
These reasons really don't make sense to me.
then ur not thinking hard enough
dapper pulsar
I really, really am.
steady solar
Adds realism, gives more scent options, gives you more stuff to do, more defense options for babies, even maybe territory marking
hybrid matrix
Adds realism, gives more scent options, gives you more stuff to do, more defense...
especially territory marking
dapper pulsar
Territory marking could be done another way.
steady solar
And you will see litterql shitlords in servers, bringing a new way for people to enjoy the game
"There's a bear poop in the woods". An old simple saying
dapper pulsar
Ok, ok, so does anything, there are better ways to do the other 2.
dapper pulsar
There are much better ways to do the other 2.
hybrid matrix
Territory marking could be done another way.
same can be said for killing something
dont always have to attack it, u could try to get it to run off a ledge
dapper pulsar
Much, much better.
dapper pulsar
Just rubbing glans up against something to mark it and baby specific abilities that allow for bursts of agility, or impairment of your aggressor. Parents.
steady solar
And remember waste would be NECESSARY, not an option, it's smth you would have to deal with, just like food
hybrid matrix
btw im getting sorta harrassed in my dms about my suggestion by a guy called eyes and im expecting a good fucking explanation as to y the reasons i listed in my suggestion r, to quote eyes, "extremely dumb"
steady solar
Just rubbing glans up against something to mark it and baby specific abilities t...
Like what abilities? What can be exclusive to babies other than burrowing that can actually believably hinder an agressor
And yeah plant rubbing is fine too which is why I mentioned territory last cause yeah waste could just be an addition to that
dapper pulsar
Like what abilities? What can be exclusive to babies other than burrowing that c...
Stronger bursts of venom since you don't have control over that yet, gliding, climbing, running on your hind legs, etc
hybrid matrix
Stronger bursts of venom since you don't have control over that yet, gliding, cl...
tf
steady solar
Stronger bursts of venom since you don't have control over that yet, gliding, cl...
Uh. Stego? Carno? Utah? Dryo? Teno?
Gliding can be done by adult ptera anyway so???
But yes dili baby venom is cool and I was thinking that to be smth specific for it
But waste would be universal
Smth everyone no matter the dino has to deal with
dapper pulsar
I still really can't see it.
steady solar
You must be nearsighted then
At this point it's just personal preference and it's hard not to see that
paper oriole
Is this still the poo argument
dapper pulsar
Yes.
steady solar
You just don't like the idea in general as a concept and I understand that
dapper pulsar
Go to room 2 for the good ones.
steady solar
Cause the reasons you gave arely hold any water
dapper pulsar
It's not a good expansion on things.
steady solar
So yeah your actual argument is that you don't like it personally
hybrid matrix
^
steady solar
Ofc it is. It's a great expansion
hybrid matrix
thats rlly the only reason that ppl dont like the idea
steady solar
Not an appealing one
FR people see it as the poo argument that some weirdo pervert wants to jack off to, which is sad
dapper pulsar
You could say that.
steady solar
Irl the mere smell of waste almost makes me puke but you can't confirm that so saying it is meaningless. I know noone would believe that I'm bring honest that it's a good mechanic and not a coprophile
I can live without waste in the game, but I'd still like to see it
dapper pulsar
It's just a rehashing of other things though.
dapper pulsar
Name the new thing.
steady solar
Again
dapper pulsar
I really, really don't.
steady solar
Additions
And the new things are expansions, not like a flying dino, a swimming one
But the newest thing is like a second hunger bar
That you also have to manage in addition to your normal one that's also directly tied to your normal one
New necessities and ways to play with them in mind
dapper pulsar
None of this is anything new though. It's old stuff in new packaging.
steady solar
No, it's old stuff expanded on
paper oriole
They can go and add shit mechanic but i want an option in settings to turn it off because i dont wanna see or hear that
steady solar
New packaging implies it's no different at all
hybrid matrix
They can go and add shit mechanic but i want an option in settings to turn it of...
thats y i suggested that compy would eat shit bc of the leftover nutrients
steady solar
They can go and add shit mechanic but i want an option in settings to turn it of...
That's valid, but do you mean censoring the act and blurring the feces or just removing them? Cause the latter would be impossible since it wouldn't be just cosmetic
hybrid matrix
compies would clean up the shit
paper oriole
Wtf we gonna have people playing compy just to eat shit then
steady solar
Yeah... Yeah
hybrid matrix
Wtf we gonna have people playing compy just to eat shit then
well i mean maybe, but mostly its gonna be ai compies
steady solar
It be like that, but imo whatever they wanna do goes if it doesn't hurt people
dapper pulsar
Portable mud and long lasting foot prints really don't feel like they justify adding a whole new system.
Looking at the whole picture doesn't change my opinion much.
steady solar
I dont personally care about compy shit eating so decide that without me
steady solar
Portable mud and long lasting foot prints really don't feel like they justify ad...
It's not portable mud lol. Only works with babies and if it's someone else's. Long lasting rare food prints you can gain more info from yeah I'd say that's a good addition. And the main thing is- you'd have to go pop a squat every one in a while just like you gotta go eat and drink every once in a while
dapper pulsar
Pedortable mud.
steady solar
.
dapper pulsar
I have won.
steady solar
You can think that ig
You don't like the idea personally so will say shit like there are other ways to do this to devalue my argument. I'd just wish you said it honestly
That's all I ask for
Honesty
dapper pulsar
Long lasting prints could just be shed teeth or something.
I've been completely honest this entire time.
steady solar
Those would be much much rarer
And only when growing
I'd be down for both she'd teeth and waste although teeth might put juvis at more of a risk so maybe not
steady solar
I've been completely honest this entire time.
That's very hard to believe
Teeth and waste would absolutely not function the same
At all
Might have slightly similar usages in one specific area but that's it
dapper pulsar
Do you really think I'm lying about thinking the suggested system is bad?
dapper pulsar
SHOCKER. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS
.
steady solar
I didn't even know you had that opinion
dapper pulsar
Have I not made it clear?
steady solar
And yeah I can accept your differentopinion
Just your arguments don't make almost any sense
Therefore it seems much more like you're not being honest
Maybe you are, that's always a possibility
In my mind it just isn't all that likely cause of the flimsy arguments
dapper pulsar
I've been totally honest. Everything this suggested system is adding is not worth it. It adds nothing of substantially value.
steady solar
You mean about waste or the ds server?
Cause about waste you admitted it would add value, just that other things could do that too
dapper pulsar
Nothing you have suggested, in my eyes, adds anything of value. What does is, will be, or can be added much better.
Alright we've been going at this for over 30 minutes, later.
steady solar
So for you another hunger bar to manage, a new type of footprint, a defense system for juvis all in one mechanic. All of that is valueless
Yeah
That's your argument
You might see why I dont think you're being honest
rotund canopy
I get my daily reading from the feedbacks so entertaining seeing people thinking the game is gonna be good
steady solar
I just hope it is
Cause it's got potential so I'm willing to honestly try, even if the likelihood of success is not as high as I might want it to be
dapper pulsar
My argument is that it's valueless or is, will be, or can be added much better not that everything is valueless
steady solar
*My argument is that it's valueless or is, will be, or can be added much bette...
Yeah I can't see how it's valueless. Added in better ways again not am argument
steady solar
(poopy lol xd)
If I could send a sound clip of me hyena laughing at that I absolutely would
tender latch
Ping
steady solar
Pong
barren zephyr
@tender latch stop existing
tender latch
<@!364884412938059778> stop existing
🚸
elder rivet
i'd say that's like a fucking quetz swallowing a hyper rex whole
i bet that's sarcasm
loud vine
I love how people thing the shit/piss idea is gross when the devs were planning on tons of realistic gore and unholy plants eventually
But ya know alright
elder rivet
it's not that it's gross, it's that it's complete nonsense. I'm not going to argue about this it's 1 AM in my timezone
loud vine
Territory marking along with scent from rubbing their bodies on trees or using their horns/claws. Young dinos can use it to mask their scent. Gross, but it works, not much wants to eat shit. It also seems realistic, over your dino filling eating and never defecating. And also, you can get extremely sick from not doing so, which I wish I could damn well see in the game, but based off people disliking it, I doubt we'll ever get that in the game, despite the factors that could come with it. Hell, humans could also mask their scent with it when they're added. But whatever.
You have your opinion, I have mine.
spark maple
Humans masking themselves with shit?
vestal field
Lol
loud vine
It would work tbh
vestal field
I dont dislike the suggestion because they probably did use defecation/urination as a way to establish territory
spark maple
That’s some Owen Grady type shit
vestal field
Idk
loud vine
think a rex wants to eat something that smells like shit from a mile off?
loud vine
exactly
vestal field
Just find it gross
But i understand where youre coming from
And im pretty sure there are wildlife that do that
I think
Idk
vestal field
Also just a question for anyone, does anyone understand the suggestion im trying to make?
And true
loud vine
Gonna laugh my ass off if its added though
vestal field
Lol
night mountain
poopoo is a good idea it lets you track stuff and see whats in the area
it also stops afk growers since predators will smell it as it builds up
median ore
Oh god, y'all have been going at this topic for a while...
Also consider: Perhaps devs don't want to make animals that easy to track. Yes, it's realistic. But we're also human players, so we're smart enough to memorize popular areas of a map, follow sounds, and footprints last for quite a while + are already easy to track unless the player wallows.
ALSO also... think about just how much poop would accumulate. If it doesn't despawn for a long time, or if it DOES despawn quickly but the dinos poop frequently... we're gonna be living in shit if we hang out in the same area for a while. 
PS: "dung beetle compy" is going too far, stop your shit-eating fantasies. ya nasty.
barren zephyr
Compies eat meat, not shit wheeze
azure wadi
@safe galleon thats general feedback not discussion i was confused for a second
azure wadi
safe galleon
@abstract zealot dryo is bigger than ptera
hushed shadow
@abstract zealot not all pteras necessarily had a wingspan over 7m and it's feet weren't made to grab
abstract zealot
<@!670936986067927043> dryo is bigger than ptera
yeh,but im saying for make it bigger,beacuse is a tiny think
abstract zealot
<@!670936986067927043> not all pteras necessarily had a wingspan over 7m and it'...
yeh i know,but are fossils of that size
abstract zealot
mhhhhh
hushed shadow
ptera won't be the only flyer
azure wadi
@open beacon thats not feedback
safe galleon
or atleast not very good feedback
azure wadi
nah, its not feedback, its just impatience
open beacon
Update for a dino game with barely any dinos in atm isn't asking much. Honeslty if they were even buggy most of us wouldn't care just would like more options.
azure wadi
their not just buggy, theyre incomplete, if they were released now theyd be unplayable, plus if youre so impatient just go play another game while you wait, the isle isnt the only game, and saying that youre tired of waiting helps noone
open beacon
Im not the only one but okay haha
azure wadi
no one likes waiting and complaining about it is pointless
safe galleon
I'd rather wait and get high quality things instead of having things rushed and released broken
azure wadi
^
open beacon
You know what. 5 years thats all im saying.
azure wadi
and that means what in context to this update?
edgy hamlet
guess he doesnt have an awnser lol
zinc anvil
@open beacon if you are not going to give good meaningful feedback don’t bother
open beacon
@zinc anvil my apologies, does anyone have any information on updates though ? as its been a month with nothing said about it.
zinc anvil
<@!137608187095285760> my apologies, does anyone have any information on update...
The update will come out when it’s good and ready. They have other problems right now like desync that need to be fixed. Or update 3 will still be very unplayable and not fun. My advice to you don’t moan about how long things take it sucks but just be patient.
open beacon
Okay thank you for the information
inner hound
nothing wrong with getting bored imo. same goes for me, but i take my time with different things that i enjoy to shorten the wait
tho i agree it may or may not belong in feedback.tho prolly no harm done
thorny crag
Deino alt attacks most likely gonna be.. Alt attacks. Tail swipe would be fun imo
Like holding Alt and klicking rmb or lmb while looking in the direction you wanna hit sounds fine. Just like teno or utah
sudden kelp
Yeah ty
hybrid matrix
@sudden kelp How about instead of a battery its just stam
sudden kelp
Thats a solid idea too
elder rivet
explain why my suggestion is a bad idea?
lofty pagoda
there is no need to know the exact health values
barren zephyr
^^
dreamy bison
<@!137608187095285760> my apologies, does anyone have any information on update...
The update will probably be around early February, but might take longer since these creatures are travelling through new mediums and a lot of testing is needed
sudden kelp
@haughty cliff sorry what are you talking about what sounds?
haughty cliff
The general dino calls--last I was on Evrima, everything was either "up close" sound or very far. Now they have real echo/booming/distance effects and it sounds like the opening scenes of jurassic park lol
So, when far dinos call it isn't just super loud now, it has a really nice, soft sound and a vague echo
paper oriole
If they allow fan concepts for creatures in fanart we're gonna get a ton of shit like people posting wolves amd saying “if wolves are added to the isle” and also people posting their neon purple indoraptor spike utahraptor OCs. Probably best to just not
People dont listen to fanart rules well as is
edgy hamlet
@safe galleon i agree, atleast so that people can make their own concept of dinos or draw dinos they'd like to see
edgy hamlet
People dont listen to fanart rules well as is
and yeh it should be dino related and maybe have some more rules lol
cuz otherwise eh yeah
paper oriole
It would be cool to have those things allowed its just i kno some people would ruin it for everyone with their abstract shit lol
safe galleon
yeah the concept part is hard to control I agree
paper oriole
How many times has the baby crocodile sound suggestion been posted in feedback lol
dreamy bison
hopefully enough times
paper oriole
Carno could def use a bit of a scale-down
low dock
100% agree
paper oriole
I also think steg's weight/hp could use a bit of a boost but that can wait for when larger dinos are released because he's gonna get merked in his current state lol
low dock
Yea I just wish i could find out what the actual health of stego is rn, because it feels like 3000
paper oriole
Yea feels like mid 4000s
low dock
I feel like itll get a buff of some kind once something big enough comes in to pose a threat, other than croc of course
barren zephyr
My estimate would be close to what it was in legacy if not reduced
paper oriole
Yeah with its current stats its likely things like alberto and allo will demolish it so im hoping they already have a future buff planned lol
Since its already getting tormented by carno pairs and utah trios
low dock
I think Dondi said a while ago that stego was supposed to be an even 1v3 with allos but idk if that's changed
barren zephyr
it'll be a one shot for rex, spino, and basically any apex
barren zephyr
balance comes with more dinos i guess? its all kinda wack rn
low dock
I think at update 5 balance is gonna get an overhaul
paper oriole
Yea makes sense, if they released steg with the stats to fight mid tiers and apexes right now itd be nigh untouchable at adult
low dock
It's relatively balanced for the current roster
dapper pulsar
While I am human, and like Jaguar Bary, I will say that Ichtyovenator is better.