giga ambush, rex endurance, acro sauropod hunter
#general-feedback-discussion
sonic cloud
Rex works better as an ambush based predator seeing as it deals a huge amount of damage over a short amount of time
glossy matrix
let giga go after the same sometimes but mostly rely on things like para for food
sonic cloud
There’s no point using endurance on animals that aren’t going to run away from you
sonic cloud
Triceratops and probably shant are going to stand and fight
barren zephyr
Irl it's prey would have been more or less equal in speed to it.
sonic cloud
Can we ditch paleotalk please?
In-game
The animals that rex are meant to be hunting
glossy matrix
having more stamina also means you can fight for longer
sonic cloud
Anky, Triceratops, Shantungosaurus will not be running away
glossy matrix
because of evrima's stamina based combat system
sonic cloud
Ok but T rex isn’t meant to fight for longer
It’s meant to fight and kill quickly because its a damage dealing tank
barren zephyr
Why even bother having multiple apex predators anyway.
glossy matrix
ok but it is since it needed to take down the biggest prey in its area
that wouldn't go down without a fight
like you said
glossy matrix
what
bleed is supposed to speed up a kill
like
something with bleed
will inevitably take less time to kill something that doesn't have bleed
barren zephyr
Giganotosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus and Allosaurus, as well as other Allosauroids, wore out their prey with numerous weak bites.
glossy matrix
debatable
lilac swallow
Death by one hundred cuts
glossy matrix
do we have any fossil evidence of that behaviour
barren zephyr
Well the most comparable creature alive would be lions
glossy matrix
like, we have rex tooth marks in the hip bones of triceratops
indicating they first crippled the prey, presumably after it was exhausted
then killed it
barren zephyr
They don't instantly kill large prey like Buffalo, they wear it out.
sonic cloud
Can we ditch paleotalk
barren zephyr
The same would have been with Sauropods.
sonic cloud
This is a videogame
barren zephyr
It is a video game.
sonic cloud
Gameplay>realism
glossy matrix
and
sonic cloud
Why is that hard to understand
barren zephyr
Why bother even making a game about dinosaurs in the first place.
If realism conflicts with the Jurassic Park-inspired tropes and god knows what.
Well, we can blame that on the devs.
sonic cloud
I guess we better make Rex far more agile and more overpowered than pretty much every carnivore, apex or not because thats realistic.
Screw gameplay being balanced right
sonic cloud
Lets go one further because you have animals from the triassic, jurassic and Cretaceous living together
glossy matrix
stop ranting
barren zephyr
Yes.
glossy matrix
i provided an explanation as to why i wanted these predators to be in said niches
and how i thought it would effect balance
barren zephyr
And I'm just filling in random scientific information because I'm a Paleonerd.
I do appreciate innacurate dinosaur designs in media, but this is a conversation about applying some scientific accuracy.
glossy matrix
how though
barren zephyr
There's also the option of overhauling the different dinosaurs' playstyles
glossy matrix
when the proportions of the animal literally say
that it isn't built for high speeds
barren zephyr
Tyrannosaurus is INTENDED for long distance walking.
white spruce
Them's fighting words
valid zephyr
@keen vapor yep juvie teno is just fodder and useless atm. If you're seen by anything it's just death.
can't flee at all
juvies should be fun, otherwise it's encouraging afk growing
white spruce
I agree wholeheartedly about baby teno, though
sonic cloud
“Let me endurance hunt this para, oh wait I broke it’s leg in a single bute it can’t run away anymore so I may as well finish it off quickly. Oh boy oh gosh im sure glad I can endurance hunt a cripple that was never much of a threat to begin with, there was never even a need to tire it out in the first place because a hadrosaur smaller than me could only give me a slight tickle at best. Boy oh boy I’m sure wish I had this really quick burst of speed to quickly catch this animal thats faster than me though,Too bad it’s not realistic”
Or
glossy matrix
I mean
I just said
that I think rex should be hunting other apexes
and that giga should rely more on stuff like para
and other large mid tiers
white spruce
what
barren zephyr
that I think rex should be hunting other apexes
Doesn't make sense for a carnivore to hunt other carnivores.
white spruce
Giga should be hunting sauropods or some shit
barren zephyr
Giga should be hunting sauropods or some shit
It should
sonic cloud
Once im done with a trike scenario I can talk to you about hinting Giga’s
sonic cloud
T rex didn’t live with Giga
sonic cloud
But it does ingame
barren zephyr
And we could as well throw acro outta the window cos it's just a giga but with a hump.
barren zephyr
Haha camel giga
glossy matrix
that kills sauropods
sonic cloud
I guess because none of Gigas contemporary’s exist in this game it’s not allowed to hunt anything and thus must go extinct
barren zephyr
No
sonic cloud
Back to trike
barren zephyr
It could hunt sauropods (whenever those appear in the game, and not in the form of that dwarf titanosaur i.e magy).
glossy matrix
I want giga to be the fast, least tanky carni apex
Rex can be a bulldozer with a lot of stamina
Spino is spino
sonic cloud
“Ok let’s hunt this Triceratops, Oh wait I broke its leg, it can’t run away now and it doesn’t even need to attack me because it has a massive shield and horns on it’s head so it only needs to look at me to stop me from attacking. So in other word it can just stand there and pivot in place while I can do absolutely nothing because if I try to attack it i’ll just impale myself on it’s horns on my head. He sure doesn’t seem to be getting tired because he doesn’t need to do anything beyond face me. Oh god I wish I was faster that way I could have quickly gotten to it’s neck and crushed it with my stupidly powerful jaws instead of being so slow and being seen before ai got that close and only being able to break a leg. That’s definitely a fatal wound right there. Oh boy isn’t having a tonne of stamina and no speed useful for hunting triceratops”
barren zephyr
Spino is a glorified cormorant.
glossy matrix
and Acro can be like Rex lite that likes to throw its weight about
barren zephyr
Ok.
barren zephyr
Well, lesson learnt.
glossy matrix
how come the fucker reliably hunted it IRL
barren zephyr
Applying irl logic to games which aren't about irl logic doesn't work.
glossy matrix
with the same adaptations
glossy matrix
and?
sonic cloud
Which means humans are playing
barren zephyr
Most predators tend to have fairly low success rates of killing prey (a mere 30 or so percent)
sonic cloud
They are smarter
sonic cloud
I literally showed you how it does but ok
glossy matrix
but it's isn't terrible and gamebreaking
like, a few minutes ago you said endurance rex would be unbalanced and OP
now you're saying it'd be helpless
pick a side ffs
barren zephyr
Yes.
sonic cloud
I was talking in regards to carnivores which I’m sure you know because you definitely read what I wrote
Now if you use your brain and think
glossy matrix
what
barren zephyr
A Triceratops is a vicious horned thingy with a powerful beak, a rex is a 13 metre long barrel bellied biped with a big powerful head and a counterbalancing tail
glossy matrix
You said this;
barren zephyr
The stakes are even.
glossy matrix
I don't see how you referred to only carnivores here
barren zephyr
The Triceratops sticks in herds mostly, so numbers is an advantage, the rex simply can follow over a long distance and has keen eyesight (like it's prey)
barren zephyr
The way how it works with real animals
sonic cloud
If I magnify it for you you might be able to read it better
glossy matrix
and then kill
sonic cloud
barren zephyr
And hunts aren't always successful.
sonic cloud
I wonder what “every carnivore, apex or not” means
And im still looking for endurance being mentioned
barren zephyr
Well that statement is obviously sarcasm.
sonic cloud
Yeah guys
barren zephyr
About making it an OP animal
glossy matrix
And im still looking for endurance being mentioned
you said it while we were discussing endurance
sonic cloud
Im secretly on your side this entire time
glossy matrix
i wonder why
sonic cloud
Why I feel as though you two are still a but misguided
keen vapor
did someone ping me?
urban flax
Woah people actually like my suggestion
sonic cloud
Lets look at Giga “Oh boy im sure glad that I managed to catch this Giga because I finally caught up to it because me being a stronger animal it knew to run away from me, but me being an endurance predator there was nothing it could really do to escape me as I just jogged after it slowly while it ran away and got tired after a minute. Being so large it had no chance of hiding and because while I may be slow, i can certainly keep up a decent trot, it never had any chance to get rid of it’s scent with mud because I was right behind it the entire time and as an ambush predator he started getting tired super quickly. Tell you what though, I really hated how when it finally gave up running I didn’t have the element of surprise so i got bit a few times before I decided to take a step back and let it bleed out from the bites I inflicted, oh wait I do lots of damage and lesser bleed to he’s doing fine and just standing there while I bleed out because he does tonnes of bleed.”
An alternate ending where we put aside realism and let the game actually be fun for both parties
“oh boy im sure glad I killed that Giga but I could have done such a better job if I just had this quick burst of speed to quickly ambush this Giga and break it’s neck before it even knew what happened, if that Giga had kept an eye out it could have easily escaped, he actually had a chance which was total bs, how dare he have fulfilling gameplay. With me being so asthmatic if I missed that first ambush or that Giga had seen me earlier it could have easily turned the tables on me and baited out my stamina and left me in a horrible situation where i’m knackered against an endurance hunter, HOW DARE THIS ANIMAL THAT I’M HUNTING HAVE VIABLE COUNTERPLAY TO MY HUNTING STRATEGY! BASTARD!!!. I much preferred it where it had no real counterplay and could only hope to give me a tonne of bleed while it died in such a frustrating manner”.
@glossy matrix @barren zephyr
I changed my mind guys realism is much more balanced
We should definitely forego gameplay at the expense of slavish realism
What fun!
glossy matrix
again
barren zephyr
You've gone too far.
sonic cloud
Tbh though
sonic cloud
Im not though
glossy matrix
as to what we want in the game
barren zephyr
Well, why not leave the argument if you can't do much save for act like a pissed off child
sonic cloud
I’m simply telling you how much I love slavish realism
barren zephyr
I was actually hoping for this to f**king end
glossy matrix
why do you feel the need to "correct" us when all we're doing is having a harmless conversation
barren zephyr
BUT NO!
sonic cloud
I feel like I’m having a harmless conversation
sonic cloud
Im showing you the merits of allowing a game to actually be fun
barren zephyr
You decide to sarcastically extend it because you're pissed or god knows why really, I can't pay attention, but anyway you're being obnoxious.
edgy hamlet
whats the discussion about?
sonic cloud
I feel like you simply feel as though I’m being obnoxious when in reality all i’m doing is telling you why slavish realism may nkt be a good idea all the time
barren zephyr
whats the discussion about?
Realism.
sonic cloud
I’m sorry for how you feel
barren zephyr
And someone taking it too far.
edgy hamlet
aye lol
barren zephyr
@sonic cloud just go take a rest or something
sonic cloud
I feel as though I’m taking it the right amount of far
paper geyser
ah good old realism
glossy matrix
its a friday
barren zephyr
It is.
glossy matrix
relax
sonic cloud
Bro I feel relaxed
barren zephyr
Well it's the evening for me rn
glossy matrix
you prob had a bad week at work / school or smthin
edgy hamlet
ah good old realism
wanna just watch this and be happy that were not involved? its fun lol
sonic cloud
It’s not very nice of you
glossy matrix
this is exactly what im talking about
you're being sarcastic to try and hide the fact that this is getting to you
for no distinct reason
sonic cloud
Yeah
paper geyser
wanna just watch this and be happy that were not involved? its fun lol
i dunno, i'm a pretty big fan of controversial discussions
edgy hamlet
i dunno, i'm a pretty big fan of controversial discussions
good point :d
sonic cloud
If I’m actually being blunt and honest
glossy matrix
unless you're just usually like this
which isn't a very pretty picture of your personality
sonic cloud
I’m not annoyed, I just find it funny poking holes in your argument. So yes I am a git
barren zephyr
Ok.
sonic cloud
Like it’s more of a dewlap at this point
sonic cloud
I feel satisfied with my arguments I put forth so yeah
glossy matrix
what were your arguments, other than calling it OP with no real basis and making up hypothetical scenarios that could be completely wrong depending on how the devs decide to push the game forwards
sonic cloud
Do you want me to rewrite them?
paper oriole
Free food carcasses spawning around? No thanks
dark bronze
I actually like that idea better than AI currently, especially given the lag spikes they cause
glossy matrix
This
jaunty plover
@thorny lynx Ur just a Carno sympathizer! Utah gang rise up
paper oriole
any large animal should be able to smack against a rock or tree to squash pouncing utahs
thorny lynx
<@!132698389090402304> Ur just a Carno sympathizer! Utah gang rise up
Utah pounce is over...what's the word. Not overpowered.
thorny lynx
It's too easy to perform. There are no drawbacks to missing a pounce or being knocked off because of invincibility frames.
wooden drift
It's too easy to perform. There are no drawbacks to missing a pounce or being kn...
this ☝️
thorny lynx
Also, there is no way for dinosaurs to retaliate unless they bite their friend, the pounced run into water or into a wall...
Missing a pounce should be punished with a cooldown.
wooden drift
God if you wanna talk about a major issue, I recently lost a near full grown Teno to a juvenile Carno?????
thorny lynx
God if you wanna talk about a major issue, I recently lost a near full grown Ten...
That's on you. You should have bucked it.
wooden drift
I hit it with nothing but secondary attacks, had plenty of stamina.
wooden drift
Just questioning what that strength balancing is
thorny lynx
I still believe our Rex needs a remodel. The head has several issues, being too elongated and too large for the model itself, and not to mention, the legs are disproportional.
wooden drift
methinks it needs to be properly beefus'd
twin burrow
Maybe if you read what I put this wouldn't matter to you specifically
wooden drift
The new "revamp" I've seen for Evrima ain't awful, but, idk if the head is too big or the body is too slim
Rex is a bit of a fathead, but at the same time...
thorny lynx
Maybe if you read what I put this wouldn't matter to you specifically
Adult rexes need to be beefy. The one we have looks like an oversized sub. Plus, the teeth are deformed severely on this model.
twin burrow
...Nope, not even going to. The minute you mention teeth again the convo's done.
wooden drift
deformed teeth 
thorny lynx
Just something about the head looks deformed. It feels elongated and not... robust enough.
twin burrow
Sure thing 
thorny lynx
Just. Look at the teeth on the bottom jaw. They do not have remotely the same shape or curvature as the teeth on the tp. They're skinny, jagged, and chipped.
wooden drift
For "finding a middle ground", my major gripe is; you have to get to elder to have something closer to paleo accuracy...?
thorny lynx
Plus, several teeth on the top are grossly oversized so they jut out of T-rex's mouth.
twin burrow
Cept it'd make sense, but ok guess looking at all the other elder models isn't an example
wooden drift
No, what I mean is for people who want to have access to that closer-to-life look, they have to take even more time
Maybe I'm talking to a wall.
thorny lynx
Our T-rex does not look unique compared to Giga and Spino. Rex is supposed to be the beefiest and the strongest, but right now, it just looks like a generic big therapod.
twin burrow
Your saying that but yet haven't mentioned how Spino lost it's uniqueness as well. 
thorny lynx
I've beaten that dead horse enough times. It's not gonna change and not get another model, so I'm not gonna bother on it.
I will keep fighting for an updated Rex model because it is possible.
Skinny rexes are no longer paleo-accurate or very pleasing to look at in comparison to chonky, beefy Sue. Sue looks like she can go head-to-head with triceratops.
twin burrow
But the rex isn-Ok. Our Rex isn't skinny by any means, like it tells me you literally didn't look at either image. Also our rex actually looks better design wise then Sue. I'm sorry but Sue is an uglier design for our adult rex, again. Don't see the issue with making the elder be sue-shaped when all the other elders are bigger proportionally
wooden drift
Skinny? No.
Disproportionate head-to-body ratio? Yeah kinda
thorny lynx
Okay, our Rex isn't skinny, but the proportions are now incorrect as we know it.
twin burrow
You know there's more adult morphs of rex then just Sue correct?
wooden drift
I'm gonna beat a dead joke and say
frog DNA
Also "how dare you" suggest 100% paleo accurate Rex, this is the Isle and it needs ✨ FLaREeeEee ✨
civic carbon
let me just point this out, sue would look a bit fugly from the front
jovial sleet
ugly as he stated
twin burrow
Because that does really look ugly
civic carbon
sue body would look bad in general
wooden drift
I was just goofin, anyway.
civic carbon
tuft's love head, on a gracile body, would be better
twin burrow
Also I don't see how the gradual changes between models is weird anyway.
wooden drift
Methinks it's a bit harsh to say ugly due to how long people spent working on the recreation.
not to say you're "InsULtiNG thEIr HOnOR"
twin burrow
We mean for the aesthetic of the game
wooden drift
I mean, in terms of paleo accuracy it's a beaut
Speaking outside of the isle there though
civic carbon
i dont disagree- rex with a more robust/sue like head would be nice
but the body itself
nah
save it for elders
unborn quail
Sue 💅
twin burrow
The body can go kick bricks, just slap it on the elder
wooden drift
My only gripe is the head feels every so slightly TOO big on our Rex
twin burrow
...Huh
civic carbon
wooden drift
But when you look at Stan the head isn't as big as
unborn quail
the gracile morphotype is quite literally only a few hundred kg compared to the 'robust' morphotype
wooden drift
Are we talking Legacy or the adjusted(?) EVRIMA look
twin burrow
unborn quail
both builds come well over 8000kg
civic carbon
the model is the exact same lol
unborn quail
depending on the size and age of the individual
civic carbon
its literally just angle
twin burrow
Ya the models are the same, it's just the angle
civic carbon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
civic carbon
no
jovial sleet
hope the devs see that suggestion and taking it into consideration. I really dont see the need for a new rex model
unborn quail
twin burrow
They probably don't see a need either
civic carbon
not rn at least
mental sleet
Nova I will dunk you
unborn quail
hey, I can get in on this too
civic carbon
but, yknow, in the future lol
wooden drift
So EVRIMA isn't diff? The head seems like it's beefier..
unborn quail
Rex to be lookin lack luster next to spino and giga
civic carbon
no, model is the same
wooden drift
Rex to be lookin lack luster next to spino and giga
kinda
twin burrow
Oh god no he converted
civic carbon
yeah cause he's a rex simp
unborn quail
i
civic carbon
i
unborn quail
I just want armored face
twin burrow
Ya, he switched over to Rex and left his allo bae behind 
wooden drift
rex with keratin eyebrows pog
unborn quail
civic carbon
arret
twin burrow
But nah our rex is fine, and I'm sticking with my proposal for the elder stage to get sue shaped up.
jovial sleet
this as somewhat elder allo= chad
needs some adjustments to fit the current model more possibly but yeah
wooden drift
I don't think Rex is lack luster, necessarily, but something feels off and I can't fucken put my finger on it
wooden drift
It's not bad, no, but I think it could use a SLIGHT update maybe
Just refine some features
No drastic changes
Just give the fathead some touchups
jovial sleet
i dont mind rex being smooth..he's a different animal than spino or giga. so ofcourse he's not going to look or appear the same
as some people mentioned he dont fit the aesthetic as them
twin burrow
iirc the only rough parts of the body you'd see would be on the face and head.
civic carbon
could add osteoderms down its back n what not
wooden drift
Rex certainly shouldn't be spiky or anything, but
Iunno.
Maybe extend the strips that are on the back of its neck a bit further down the body?
No I take that one back
jovial sleet
hmm..oesteoderms...i like that tbh. lemme find this rex pic..it does a perfect balance of that
civic carbon
probably because the other 2 look like mini hypers
rex used to
until they made a new hyper rex
jovial sleet
wooden drift
Y'know, I can't lie in saying I'm still trying to get a feel for the Isle's aesthetic
Also that's honestly a huge improvement
civic carbon
the older model ye
wooden drift
Maybe lose the ones on the side of the neck, but
just my thoughts
If I can jump back for a sec..
What I mean by more vocal options is it feels like people always take a threaten call as a challenge for a fight, rather than "this is my space, back off."
thorny lynx
https://i.imgur.com/lXMjDVE.png I knew the proportions were way off.
jovial sleet
fav pic of old rex but yeah if the small bumps on rex came back and the rex transitioned more into bulky rex as an elder ...I would definitely be here for that
thorny lynx
I knew it. The head's too large. Body is fine, though.
The ankles always looked weirdly deformed to me.
unborn quail
Why scotty when that specimen has a shorter skull by comparison to sue
thorny lynx
Because I can't find one with Sue standing on one leg
unborn quail
Can do it, one second
jovial sleet
which head was our rex based on again ? or did it have a reference ?
lament kayak
I think ti rex does fine. I mean wasn't each rex unique from each other? It doesn't have to be a carbon copy of a specimen
civic carbon
stan @jovial sleet
lament kayak
I don't mind some tweaking of course but I think its fine as is
thorny lynx
I think ti rex does fine. I mean wasn't each rex unique from each other? It does...
Found one @unborn quail
unborn quail
already have one made
dense wagon
why all the dislikes from fluff's suggestion 
jovial sleet
but trike remodel when ? now that im here for
unborn quail
jovial sleet
lol
unborn quail
Because you didn't scale them to the same size whatsoever
dense wagon
the differences in proportion in a skinny juvenile/sub rex in comparison to a beefy adult makes for differing playstyles throughout the stages
and that makes the game interesting
unborn quail
that's how you compare
thorny lynx
Because you didn't scale them to the same size whatsoever
Oh.
unborn quail
The head size roughly lines up, just the elder rex concept is overall very beefy
thorny lynx
The top of the head is CHONKY.
twin burrow
Yup, looks Sue shaped to me. Perfect
jovial sleet
so with that being said rex is good as is
thorny lynx
Also, why are the ankles so low?
unborn quail
base rex could use some extra flair, but the need for a remodel is not needed, ye
civic carbon
yet
jovial sleet
DEVS where u at
twin burrow
It isn't
unborn quail
your looking at the leg that's raised up for sue
civic carbon
if when we get a trike remodel, wouldnt mind rex touchups
unborn quail
th ankle is at the same spot, just bigger on the concept
dense wagon
trike textures are boring
we should get a retexture at least
thorny lynx
your looking at the leg that's raised up for sue
What would you think if the Rex model included the osteolith girth?
civic carbon
a whole remodel in general
thorny lynx
Just basically make the belly bigger
dense wagon
why don't yall like the skinny long legged juvi 
civic carbon
current trike is based off a subadult apparently. an actual adult trike would be nicer
jovial sleet
chad trike
twin burrow
Our rex is fine as is, jesus
dense wagon
oh yeah definitely
twin burrow
Customizable horns, easily solved
thorny lynx
current trike is based off a subadult apparently. an actual adult trike would be...
All the more reasons devs should fix the Trike model.
civic carbon
or juust make a new one
wooden drift
Or like
thorny lynx
Customizable horns, easily solved
It's not just the horns. The frill shape is different, the body shape is different.
thorny lynx
Our Trike looks like it has a severe underbite. Lemon sucker.
civic carbon
last time it was touched, only the horns changed
wooden drift
Hatchling/juvenile model is baby, juvenile is the sub adult model, sub adult is the adult model
you get it
dense wagon
trike ingame is based on a sub 
is it at least upsized?
twin burrow
Eh, Trike I guess is in need of a remodel.
civic carbon
so small head
dense wagon
trike always felt small to me
jovial sleet
And before the mods say anything were basing this off the trike suggestion that was in feedback days ago. so it relates😌
thorny lynx
i mean, it doesnt _need_ one,
It deserves one, though.
it needs one
jovial sleet
i dont see it
okay maybe adding those small little bumps back on him but other than that im not seeing much
twin burrow
civic carbon
adult horridus would be nice
civic carbon
for artistic liberty, give it yoshi's horns
jovial sleet
didnt work
compact hare
why remodel ? what do they need to change ?
the head ?
Not being rude, i just cant see the difference 
civic carbon
hatcher with these horns
wooden drift
why remodel ? what do they need to change ?
the head ?
Not being rude, i just ...
Well, it's the horns and the proportions of the model
compact hare
ooh i see
jovial sleet
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783773460437925900/783792311280599050/ddebxtc-556ef8e6-8dd0-4666-8bb3-6732a2e65daf.png https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/783773460437925900/783792283778285658/Screenshot_20201123-2032412.png
wooden drift
It's more like a sub adult, or a separate genus, depending on how people see it.
As in our Isle trike has the proportions and look of a sub
compact hare
hmm yes, it needs some changes
wooden drift
I'd personally love to see something similar to- possibly forbidden name coming i don't know how much of a meme or serious hate it is.
Saurian's Triceratops
thorny lynx
I'd personally love to see something similar to- possibly forbidden name coming ...
Prorsus?
We have Horridus right now.
wooden drift
You know the debate, yea?
civic carbon
prorsus is ok, horridus just looks like a rex killer overall
wooden drift
Whether or not the genus are separate or if it's just different points in the age of Trike's life
Unless that's long gone by now?
thorny lynx
The 2020 Trike's frill looks like it flays more towards the side of the neck, offering more protection.
vast wolf
fluff that rex picture you overlayed on the skeletal is the elder. the normal rex is a lot less bulky in the head and neck.
thorny lynx
fluff that rex picture you overlayed on the skeletal is the elder. the normal re...
The top of the head is still chunky as hell in our Rex.
twin burrow
Ya, she's just actually agreeing to my suggestion
It only took a lot of persuasion and time
thorny lynx
No model redo, but... it needs a touchup.
vast wolf
i mean if its close then its fine. its not another spino magy or hypsi.
its more in line with things like trike that are a bit outdated but still look fine.
jovial sleet
^
thorny lynx
I will say, though...I never realized how low our rex's knees are. The femur is hella long for some reason
vast wolf
looks in line with the skeletal on the elder.
thorny lynx
I still would appreciate standard rex having the osteoliths present.
vast wolf
you sure you have the right word? all i can find for osteolith is bone damage.
sonic cloud
Based on the skeletals posted earlier.
Our rex would look better if it stopped sucking in it’s belly, got a wider ribcage and got a slightly shrunken head that makes the rest of the animal look puny in comparison.
Those are really the only changes needed
vast wolf
sonic cloud
If our rex stopped sucking in the gastralia at the pubic boot it would look better
vast wolf
the only issue with changing rexes proportions means it has to be redone from scratch or look odd/break.
thorny lynx
gastralia
vast wolf
ik what they are but i dont understand backwards gastrilla
thorny lynx
I was thinking gastrolith but osteo...
jovial sleet
im confused what does that thing do for rex ? if it was added would it be seen ? im even more confused
vast wolf
so ossified gastrilla?
sonic cloud
It’s more the problem thst our rex sucks in it’s belly towards the pubic boot making the whole torso look smaller
vast wolf
thats legacy
thorny lynx
Yeah. The belly needs to drop. Look how low the pubic bone is compared to now.
thorny lynx
thats legacy
The model has not changed since then.
sonic cloud
Its literally the same model Gharial
vast wolf
the head is closer to the camera.
its doing a side neck thing in that picture which makes the rest of its body look skinny
thorny lynx
thorny lynx
Belly still needs to drop.
vast wolf
its not noticeable for people that dont look at rexs fossils on a day to day basis it seems. if its not already corrected it would set it back a lot in terms of animations. it would need its rig to be redone.
jovial skiff
I am here
vast wolf
or it would risk legacy giga style issues.
sonic cloud
thorny lynx
That looks better
sonic cloud
Literally made the rex stop sucking its belly in
jovial skiff
._.
sonic cloud
It doesn’t even need a huge edit and it already looks better
twin burrow
Go to Saurian, learn that realism costs loads of money, and takes absolute loads of time and then come back
sonic cloud
Its just shrinkwrapped around the pubic boot
jovial skiff
U see realism isn't the main goal of this game
thorny lynx
vast wolf
thats still side necked and a bad refrence
thorny lynx
Go to Saurian, learn that realism costs loads of money, and takes absolute loads...
Jacob uses Z-sculpt and THEN makes the model low poly. ALl he needs to do is just extend the belly on the z-sculpt model then export low poly
mental sleet
Or we could not do this, like, what's the point ?
jovial skiff
Jacob uses Z-sculpt and THEN makes the model low poly. ALl he needs to do is jus...
Would most people agree with that change tho is it a needed change?
vast wolf
extending the belly could mean a new rig aka new morph and loads more work for bryan.
twin burrow
I gave you a solution in general feedback for the elder stage, but.
thorny lynx
I wouldn't think so. The belly does not move.
vast wolf
its like saying that theri needs a change because it dosent have a dewclaw.
vast wolf
I wouldn't think so. The belly does not move.
its more surface area which would at least require new weight painting.
thorny lynx
True, but... chomky
vast wolf
abomination
all they needed to do was arch the back and keep the head at a normal size.
then it would look ok.
jovial skiff
This is the ideal Rex body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
vast wolf
better
thorny lynx
then it would look ok.
I agree.--
vast wolf
nova did make some size charts with it
thorny lynx
I wish Anky had more pointy horns on its head
vast wolf
thorny lynx
oooo
jovial skiff
bruh momento
thorny lynx
this thing could fight rexes if it wanted to. slap slap slap
thorny lynx
slap slap slap. clap clap clap.
thorny lynx
i think it was 5 tons
5-6, I think.
vast wolf
still massively chonk for an ornithomimasaur.
thorny lynx
Deinocheirus would probably get bodied by rex, but it could probably beat Acro and Deino's ass.
vast wolf
it could beat rex if its combat stratage was similar to whats implied for spino. hold its grownd and push it back.
thorny lynx
I never realized how large gigantoraptor is. For some reason, it looks terrifying. Imagine that thing kicking like a galli.
vast wolf
it would crush galli.
sonic cloud
Imagine what it would do to a human
thorny lynx
it could beat rex if its combat stratage was similar to whats implied for spino....
I can imagine Deinocheirus's thing being either grabbing small dinosaurs and slamming them into the ground or chucking them away, while larger dinosaurs get the big wrestle and pushed onto the ground.
vast wolf
cassowary on steroids.
sonic cloud
Straight up bisect you through the waist
thorny lynx
https://i.imgur.com/LU21ybY.png Bulky. Boy.
vast wolf
some predator style shit.
thorny lynx
This thing could take rams and probably still stand just fine.
And what that neck do? It could probably smack a utah away with its neck alone and then stomp on its head.
vast wolf
im pretty sure we have evidence of two fossils of it being killed or scavenged by tarbosaurus.
but there was also a tarbo that killed and ate ankylosaurs.
twin burrow
I'm sorry but a neck slap? Just stop
vast wolf
claw bite kick.
thorny lynx
I'm sorry but a neck slap? Just stop
Like Shant and Para. The headbutt neck-sweep thing.
jovial skiff
Isn't Deinocherius just a Theri with Scoliosis and down syndrome
vast wolf
that would break their skulls. deinocherius has a skull less thickened than paras.
thorny lynx
Isn't Deinocherius just a Theri with Scoliosis and down syndrome
No, they are two completely different animals with different diets and niches.
vast wolf
Isn't Deinocherius just a Theri with Scoliosis and down syndrome
ornithomimius that became a therizinosaur duck.
thorny lynx
THEY BOTH HAVE CLAWS AND BIRBS THEY THE SAME
jovial skiff
yooo
vast wolf
they convergently evolved bulky frames and long powerful arms.
thorny lynx
they convergently evolved bulky frames and long powerful arms.
Deinocheirus looks like a wall. A literal wall.
vast wolf
not really. just beip but your weak until sub.
jovial skiff
Spino
vast wolf
spino will probably be as slow as stego.
thorny lynx
Deinocheirus looks more of the 'slap you silly' while Theri stabs shit. Theri looks like the skewer while Deinocheirus just wants to yeet you out of his swamp.
I love it. Basically keep shit away and exhaust them until they die.
vast wolf
yeah deinocherius had claws better for high power blows.
theri had to be careful with stabbing. if it went too deep or hit the wrong bone it would break its claw.
thorny lynx
Deinocheirus probably would do bone break to smalls. Utah gets cocky and pounces near its face and just gets slammed dunked to the ground.
thorny lynx
theri had to be careful with stabbing. if it went too deep or hit the wrong bone...
I think it more slashed than pierced, right?
vast wolf
unlike alaxasaurus and beipaosaurus that had almost no stress whatsoever.
thorny lynx
Or it just went for the eyes.
vast wolf
let me see if i can find the atricle
jovial skiff
Deinocherius
vast wolf
put it in paleotalk
thorny lynx
or is it dee-no-kai-rus?
Nice to know Theri and Cheirus had different attacking styles. if Theri wanted to swipe, it shouldn't do it on something with a hard skull. Deinocheirus can give you the big slaps all day no problem, though.
catch these hands boih.
vast wolf
yeah cherius has claws like alaxa or beip.
thorny lynx
So it skewered shit, not slashed?
vast wolf
theri could slash just not deep cuts.
thorny lynx
deinocheirus be like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7MG7ieHYb4
I had to
I needed to get this out of my system
twin burrow
jovial sleet
deino lowkey chad
vast wolf
shrinkwrapped stork cherius ugly.
jovial sleet
shrinkwrapped...im not seeing it..he looks fatty to me..i just see a wrinkly fatty throat
vast wolf
the skull is sticking out of the damn things face.
shouldent be able to see the holes in it.
jovial sleet
damn ok well regardless i still like the style. he looks meaner.
wild stone
Good shit @hidden rain! It's good to see other players giving serious suggestions for Magy that aren't ridiculous or game-breaking. I'm glad someone else noticed what Magy was showcased being capable of. You didn't even have to add that much, you just saw something that a lot of people missed and interpreted it a little bit. Grade A suggestion, keep up the good work bro. You have one new, unironic, fan 👍
Original post: #general-feedback message
civic sparrow
@thorny lynx I think carcasses will have more meat to eat when gore system is in? But I’m not sure
potent sparrow
@civic sparrow wait, based on your reaction, is that actually happening? or was that a statement to add? xD
civic sparrow
@potent sparrow oh I was adding to it XD, I wish para was actually getting a sound attack 😔
potent sparrow
LOL
they are noise
yes
if not carnivore i agree with para
didn't even think of that
potent sparrow
ya, a sound based gimmick would be cool, and para specifically would work nicely for that
civic sparrow
I also hope they give it super cool, powerful calls
potent sparrow
I mean para's sound in legacy was pretty powerful in itself, what did you have in mind? some kind of boom effects?
cosmic prairie
potent sparrow
#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 I guess?
barren zephyr
I like that suggestion but a lot of players, myself included, are very sensitive to ringing noises ans high pitched noises.
potent sparrow
I mean I can see that.
Also hypsie calls are bad enough
barren zephyr
Very
outer mauve
I think it would be cool if when you got attacked, where you got bit it would leave a scar in that spot. Not that I sometimes think the scar design on the back is cool, lol! But like if you got scratched or bit around the face, then you could end up getting slash marks and scars across mussels and eyes and cheeks, nose, stuff like that. It shows battle scars and stays with you till adult too! Sometimes a scared male is impressive to the ladies. Whether the male just likes a good fight or would be an actual good father and protector is yet to be perceived.
barren zephyr
@oblique summit, Saurophaganax will have to compete with Acro in it's niche.
Or Allo
civic carbon
not even
safe galleon
high speed and low stam is just acro
civic carbon
only 4t
oblique summit
civic carbon
and allo already competes with alberto lol
vagrant lagoon
<@438715681450754068>, Saurophaganax will have to compete with Acro in it's nich...
Yes.
barren zephyr
and allo already competes with alberto lol
Yes
Albertosaurus is Tyrannosaurus lite essentially.
oblique summit
and allo already competes with alberto lol
The question is not this, but about placing the creature, it would be a semi-apex, very strong and that has a model that matches any habitat
safe galleon
what
civic carbon
ye, but it's outweighed by both of our current semi-apexes
sucho is at least 5t, and acro is a good 6t
barren zephyr
Making all these large carnivores actually coexist in the same f**king island is a pain in the ass.
I mean there's giga - rex rivalry already
oblique summit
The community is supporting Hypos
barren zephyr
And acro needs to be somehow crammed in without competing with the giga or rex
civic carbon
hypers are a bit different
barren zephyr
Or the allo
oblique summit
It’s not, they’re big predators anyway
safe galleon
yeah hypos aren't really supposed to be balanced, they just kill everything and starve
barren zephyr
It’s not, they’re big predators anyway
You're not familiar with niche partitioning, are ya now?
safe galleon
also you wont just be able to spawn in as a hypo, you can just spawn in any time you want as a rex or acro or any other big carni
barren zephyr
Yes
civic carbon
the old allo model was ugly, let it rest lol
barren zephyr
If you wanted to be very ideal, you could literally just have one main apex predator (probably rex), with spino being a semi-aquatic oddball.
This actually gives me an idea.
Different maps with different main apexes.
And probably fauna in general because of different climate conditions and island size.
oblique summit
The question of Saurophagax and its main objective is to be a low social predator, which rivals acro, sucho, alberto, and hunts prey like Hadros with ease once caught by surprise. he would be too slow to try to hunt trike, Theri, other apexes, but fast enough to hunt sauropods like Camarasaurus, Brachi. He would hardly die for Utahs, Ceratos and avoid the apex a lot by being "easily" killed by them.
civic carbon
that's just acro
safe galleon
but what makes it special? what would make it actually fun to play? what would its special ability be?
oblique summit
And one does not prevent the other.
barren zephyr
Ok so this is my proposal
civic carbon
safe galleon
it would be useless to make 2 different creatures that do the same thing
jovial sleet
Elder allo >
One dev already said they wouldn't mind this being the elder version of allo
oblique summit
but what makes it special? what would make it actually fun to play? what would i...
The animal itself is interesting a good number of players would go to it alone, unlike many dinos that need something different, the animal would already be very attractive, if not one of the most played, without needing a lot of different things
civic carbon
it's literally just slightly larger allo
safe galleon
The animal itself is interesting a good number of players would go to it alone, ...
how do you know this?
edgy hamlet
we dont need an allo clone tbh lol
civic carbon
allo already competes with alberto, it can hunt hadrosaurs. acro can do the rest of your suggestion
oblique summit
that's just acro
excellent, so not a barrier to leave a different model for those who like the animal
barren zephyr
Isla Spiro has Tyrannosaurs (Tyrannosaurus and Albertosaurus) as prime predators, with no allosauroids (allosaurus, giga, etc) present. There are also probably going to be no large Sauropods on Spiro. Instead, the (slightly) smaller herbivores are dominant. On some other island, with more open, coniferous vegetation, Sauropods could be the dominant herbivores, and Giga, Acro and Allo reign supreme. The rest of the animals in the game are found on both islands.
civic carbon
again, they replaced the model for a reason
civic carbon
acro is the saurophaganax you're looking for
oblique summit
So you don't want the animal because in your opinion it would break the balance that is not even literally functional in the game?
civic carbon
no, i don't want it because it'd be another redundant animal
in a game already full of redundant animals
safe galleon
no we dont want sauro because it's just useless
oblique summit
It would not be, bigger but slower than a normal Allosaurus and weaker than a rex, it would be on the same level as acro being the main rivalry of the own
civic carbon
you're proposing some of what allo already does, and some of what acro already does
barren zephyr
Acro and Sauro don't mix
civic carbon
it's redundant
barren zephyr
The Isle is already crammed with large carnivores which would have had some sort of role as apex predators in their prehistoric environments.
oblique summit
Both acro and sauro could have points that set them apart, positive and negative things that would make the rivalry interesting in the ecosystem.
But that's what they say, people don't change their minds on the internet. so just forget it.
barren zephyr
They don't mix
And frankly enough an acro with a giga, and a giga with a rex shouldn't either.
jovial skiff
Sauro as in Saurophaganaax?
oblique summit
The Isle is already crammed with large carnivores which would have had some sort...
Rex
Giga
Spino
Acro
Alberto
barren zephyr
Sauro as in Saurophaganaax?
Yes.
safe galleon
Both acro and sauro could have points that set them apart, positive and negative...
they do the same things, literally just useless to add 2 things that do the same exact thing
safe galleon
alberto isn't that big
jovial sleet
If sauro was to come i would just want a completely new model anyways. Dog allo can be dismissed.
barren zephyr
Rex
Giga
Spino
Acro
Alberto
Spino is the only large carnivore which could actually coexist with all of the others, since it's a fish eating oddball
civic carbon
alberto is literally allo sized lol
jovial skiff
4 apexes
still raptor
Lol, no point in adding larger Allosaurus species to the game.
jovial skiff
^
barren zephyr
And some dinosaurs which aren't apexes would have been apex predators in their own environments (dilo and cryo)
oblique summit
they do the same things, literally just useless to add 2 things that do the same...
There will be many dinosaurs in the game, kentro, proto, pachyrino, one of the triassico that originated the sauropods, and many others, the saurophaganax (according to you) would be identical to the acro, there would be no problem in adding an animal that many people like to have only the pleasure of having the animal in the ecosystem in which it would not leave any imbalance.
safe galleon
it would take up development time, making the devs work on a useless animal that costs thousands of dollars to make is just dumb
edgy hamlet
There will be many dinosaurs in the game, kentro, proto, pachyrino, one of the t...
its not that easy and cost-free to add an animal tho lol
its not really needed, more people want a kentro rather than this
oblique summit
To close it is incredible how the Baryonix jaguar with thorns and orange was so applauded by the community while a simple animal cannot be placed for unjust reasons '' it is the same as acro '' '' has many predators '' Thing that doesn't work in the game, if 60% of a server caught a predator (which they are free to do) it has already broken the balance. but anyway the good side is that devs rarely listen to the community
civic carbon
jaguar bary is unique though, there's the difference
barren zephyr
Wait so modelling costs thousands?
civic carbon
saurophaganax is not
safe galleon
alright you're just unreasonable
edgy hamlet
Wait so modelling costs **thousands**?
with adding all the animations it can cost thousands, ye
civic carbon
and the model you're proposing was removed for a multitude of reasons, one of them being it was just plain ugly
edgy hamlet
so why bring it back lol
barren zephyr
It's the pointy crests which make it look ugly
oblique summit
jaguar bary is unique though, there's the difference
independent is a bad model that has nothing to do with unnecessary things in it and so is applauded by the community, the creature had more thorns than a Hypo.
It is not a question of being different, the animal is attractive in itself, when he used a mod he was one of the server's players, walking in 3 fighting with alberto and running around and hunting for fun, the community denies a model that only varies the fauna to applaud the little shame of a bary with disproportionate arms.
I've already told people. Don't change your mind on the internet, I'll end here.
oblique summit
tepid gate
Baryonyx with Sucho are redundant, they are however already on the roster due to progression. Allo and Saurophaganax are also redundant but only one of them was ever on the roster. There's really no place for Saurophaganax in the game since it wouldn't be visually distinct enough from Allosaurus(except somewhat bigger). If anything we should lose some of the redundant animals(like either Sucho/Bary, Diablo/Ava, Troodon/Velo) not add more onto that pile. There are far more distinct animals in that size category that could be added to fill the roster other than Allosaurus that's just bigger. Although having said that, I think we could use some more mid-tier/pseudoapex-sized animals in the roster(more so on the herbivore side)
edgy hamlet
Sure, people will always play new creatures that come into the game, even this. But still, its a waste of time and money
still raptor
@barren zephyr Quadruped Spinosaurus has been thrown out.
barren zephyr
Spinosaurus as a quadruped does not work.
still raptor
They changed the Center of Mass.
In 2014, it worked because of physics, but now it doesn't.
Lemme get the charts
2020 Spinosaurus reconstruction is on the Top, 2014 Spinosaurus reconstruction is on the bottom.
barren zephyr
As far as material right now is concerned, the arms could not handle the weight of the animal.
jovial sleet
That styraco suggestion tho 😌😌😭🙌
maiden anvil
Thx bro!!! ^^^
real kraken
@maiden anvil I've never really thought about adding Styracosaurus to the isle but when I think about it it works really well!
barren zephyr
Styracosaurus
jovial sleet
Styraco already has a old model. Not sure if it needs to be updated
maiden anvil
Ey thx @real kraken. I thought styraco would be a little unique from other ceratopsian with its large thrill horns. So it can attack anything on its back
barren zephyr
So Protoceratops is gonna be a sort of goat/sheep in terms of playstyle
jovial sleet
Styraco and pachyrhino >
barren zephyr
Well they've got wacky horns and frills
maiden anvil
Besides dibble will be smaller so it should be something to take its old spot
maiden anvil
Yes but I’m thinking I want it to sheow on trees like a beaver and build small dens
Outta wood
barren zephyr
I'd rather just have it as a sort of goat
maiden anvil
Yep
barren zephyr
Capable of climbing up low hanging trees n stuff
maiden anvil
I think pachy makes the perfect goat tho ngl
barren zephyr
Pachycephalosaurus is more like a bighorn sheep
maiden anvil
True
civic sparrow
Arvid I adore your animations and concepts! XD
maiden anvil
Thx a lot. I got a bunch of attack animations
I think your idea for para sounds to travel further are great
I’d like to add something tho
civic sparrow
Tyyyy
maiden anvil
Maybe paras specifically would be able would be able to hear and locate other paras much better then other species. I’m thinking you don’t want to attract too much predators
How ever great idea
Makes it easier to group up with other paras which is basically what everyone wants
civic sparrow
Oooh so like how elephants can sense eachothers rumbles from looong distances while it’s barely audible to other animals? That’s a good idea for keeping para safer, and maybe devs could give it better hearing in general? 😮
jovial sleet
i loved the para idea as well. the sounds intrigued me
civic sparrow
Tysm! I got this from a video on YouTube about how para would probably sound, I could send the Link if you’d like
maiden anvil
Exactly. And if para has good hearing It can easily avoid predators it can’t kill
open sedge
@jovial sleet That's a great idea, pretty much exactly what I was thinking, except the water levels would regularly change when the tides come in, so any creatures living there would have to either be willing to move around a lot or not mind getting wet. This would definitely be a good home for Sucho, Spino, Deino, and Austroraptor, but also maybe Giga and some big titanosaurs like Andesaurus, since similar animals (Carcharodontosaurus and Paralatitan) lived in that environment
jovial sleet
Yeah completely agree ^.would look so nice seeing that environment incorporated into the game and tbh i wouldn't mind seeing changing tides in the game. Seems neat.
dark bronze
I hate Stegos bodyguarding so much
modern stone
I hate Stegos bodyguarding so much
don't use feedback channels to cry about players
unreal ridge
this is why you are able to grab chunks off of creatures
wooden drift
Unfortunately you can't grab a chunk when the Stegosaurus is sitting on top of the body, just saying.
paper geyser
herbs throw up when near a corpse for too long /s
dark bronze
Stegos don't care. They weren't meant to be playable in this update and should have remained that way
potent sparrow
herbs throw up when near a corpse for too long /s
I agree with this. Herbies need to at some extent get sick around a corpse so the carnivores can bloody eat without the server host having to lay down rules
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr, minmi is not a slow animal at all
It could easily gallop considering how little armour it had.
barren zephyr
It dwells in water AND caves. The perfect environment for fungi to grow.
According to what exactly?
To its concept art mate?????
Can ya show it
It is a semi aquatic burrowing animal
Ok.
Sure
So they decided to turn Minmi into an overgrown muskrat.
Shows nothing about living in actual cave systems, but does show burrowing.
They went for lianoningos in minmi body
Liaoningosaurus
We don't know if minmi even was aquatic
I suspect it was probably terrestrial mostly
Yeah but The Isle
vast wolf
yeah minmi was probably terrestrial and lived in forests. minmi being a pigmy hippo tortoise is good.
barren zephyr
If Minmi is like a box turtle and a pygmy hippo mixed together, why not have the anky have a similar semi-aquatic lifestyle as well?
vast wolf
because its got very stubby legs and minmi dosent.
and theres no point in making anky semi aquatic.
minmi has it as niche partitioning and for an extra escape.
vast wolf
the only specimen we have of it is a hatchling that drowned.
we have minmi and the once synonymous kunburrasaurus.
barren zephyr
I know lmao. It also wasn’t semi aquatic
Is just that liano is smaller which would help it hide better. And it is OBJECTIVELY cuter lol
vast wolf
id rather not be a 20 kilogram ankylosaur that can be picked up and grabbed by everything larger than velo.
minmi would really have to worry about things like mono and utah sized.
that at least lets minmi fight things.
edgy hamlet
@loud crow uhh custom skins aint simple my dude
loud crow
@edgy hamlet why not?
edgy hamlet
Do you really think making custom skins is simple? lmao
loud crow
Compared to alot of other stuff yes.
strange wave
its not
edgy hamlet
Go make a whole entire new ui for the skin system wich is planned, make whole new custom skins which take a LOT of time (try making an realistic drawing on an 3d object lol) code all the colors fix bugs happening and taking time for that instead of bringin important contend to keep the players playing hmmm
strange wave
lets see
each animal has to have its color zones mapped out and have the ability to be changed
we need a host of new colours to make it worth the time spent
colors have to be removed on certain dinosaurs so we dont have barney running around
double all of these for female animals
double all of this for a future animal
over all, pretty tedious thing to do
edgy hamlet
lets see
each animal has to have its color zones mapped out and have the ability...
^oh surprise, theres more! it aint simple lol
apart from that the skin system is the last thing we need right now
loud crow
Thats your opinion.👍
barren zephyr
Skin systems are pretty difficult in fact
Very time consuming
Besides it's best to have a stable foundation for the game before any of the cosmetics
loud crow
How long does it take to make a custom skin for 1 dino?
barren zephyr
It's not 1 dino, it's several. And there's only like what, 6 dinos in the game right now?
There's more important things to focus on as well
loud crow
No im just asking its a question...how long would it take to make a custom skin for just 1 dino??
edgy hamlet
No im just asking its a question...how long would it take to make a custom ski...
if you already HAVE the working skin system it takes minutes. CREATING that skin system tho takes days.
loud crow
So days is a long time and something that is hard. 🤣my point exactuly your not a programmer you have no idea what your talking about. Good day sir.
barren zephyr
...
edgy hamlet
So days is a long time and something that is hard. 🤣my point exactuly your not ...
I highly doubt youre a programmer my dude.
barren zephyr
Dude are you good?
edgy hamlet
I cant believe someone can be so braindead lmao
barren zephyr
Why in the WORLD would they focus on a skin system when the game is poorly optimized and there's only 6 dinos?..
idle ibex
Dude, I don’t think you realize that a custom skin system with fleshed out customization is difficult to create, fix and optimize?
idle ibex
There’s no point in making it, when evrima nearly has nothing yet
barren zephyr
Exactly
edgy hamlet
Theres no way to tell him that, hes one of those people lol
idle ibex
Save that shit for after atleast update 4 or 5
edgy hamlet
Dont think he gets how long it takes
barren zephyr
"you're not a programmer so you don't know what you're talking about!" argument is stupid
edgy hamlet
Its the worst thing to say if youre visibly not a programmer either lol
barren zephyr
Yes
paper oriole
Getting stabbed in the head by multiple large spikes causing a light stun? lol
idle ibex
I’d say a blinding mechanic, but a spike in the eye isn’t something you just rub your head in the ground and remove lmfao, so that wouldn’t work
thorny lynx
lets see
each animal has to have its color zones mapped out and have the ability...
Not to mention, people want multiple patterns.
edgy hamlet
Yep. That dude was braindead but well
paper oriole
Getting thagged in the head would do more than a slight stun, if it sticks your eye you don't have much time left to worry about being blinded
idle ibex
Yeah, maybe instead of a light stun. You’d fall onto the ground, and take some time to get up, potential injury on impact as well?
It’d look sick as hell, smacking a rex biting at your tail and he gets flung to the side
paper oriole
If you're careless enough to let an anky or stego's tail strike your skull it should be more punishing than that lol. Sounds too easy
hybrid matrix
It’d look sick as hell, smacking a rex biting at your tail and he gets flung to ...
i think for anky that would work much better than with stego, but yea, slight stun is a little weak
paper oriole
Keep in mind that stego and anky are slow animals, they don't get to run away, so their attacks should be extra punishing
A slight stun aint doin anything
hybrid matrix
i think for stego it should knock it away
paper oriole
It's not a blunt force hit to knock something the size of rex or giga to the side
If you hit it in the leg maybe but if you smack it in the skull that bastard shouldn't be getting back up
hybrid matrix
sorry, i had to do smthn, but yea
also with anky it could make a little sense to blind the rex for a few seconds as well, since its like a boulder hitting its skull and that would be more than just a knock to the ground
1 sec
paper oriole
Again whats with shrugging off lethal strikes to the skull lol
Wanna make these dinos totally useless fr
They are slow animals with no choice but to stand ground, they shouldn't just be able to bop their attackers on the noggins and hope they get bored and leave
idle ibex
Pros with other things than deino swimming up and down water include: Potential swimming based perks, allowing for sub aquatic play styles, an option to counter deinosuchus since as of right now it just seems they grab you and you got no Defence in the water, it gives a new escape route for creatures and a way for juveniles to get away from adults (Less prominent on)
paper oriole
I believe beipi and minmi will be capable of diving too
Hopefully we get more down the line
edgy hamlet
they will dive yeah
paper oriole
Yeah he's gonna be wolverine penguin
Also permanent damage+sniff reduction is gonna make people kill themselves
hybrid matrix
be careful of stegos ig
paper oriole
Just make strikes to the skull lethal and end their suffering
Strikes to the jaw would break them though yes
It isnt permanately crippling
Perma damage is gonna make people yeet themselves off cliffs
hybrid matrix
lemme kno every spot that needs improvement
paper oriole
And while perma scars are cool and would be nice to have, the devs said no because it would apparently lag up a server or something like that
But woulda been cool to see rexes with half mangled faces or trikes with a chomp in their frill walking around..
hybrid matrix
the scar would just be a line and no u wouldnt want a scar from one of these
well, not a line
but also not smthn significant
it would just be like a mark
a little dent*
but anyway if u get a scar from a stego or anky then its gonna put a target on ur back bc other predators will kno ur weak
paper oriole
Yeah thats why people would simply kill themselves, not very engaging gameplay to perma cripple players with attacks that should just end their existence then and there
paper oriole
While it would be funny to watch the rex you smacked give up and kill themself, it wouldnt be very engaging to that player
hybrid matrix
also, evrima is supposed to be realistic, u attack a stego or an anky then u get wut u get
the moral of the story is dont attack adult stegos or ankies
its just a very bad idea
and survival games punish idiots
paper oriole
I mean they threw realism out the window when they bastardized anky and spino and allow utahraptor to jump like a kangaroo
hybrid matrix
so if u decide to be an idiot and attack one of these 2 then its ur fault
"bastardized anky and spino" wdym?
paper oriole
Perma damage could very well be a toggled server option, i just don't very much like the idea of a mechanic that will inevitably lead to self deletion for most dinos anyway
Spino being turned into a terrestrial jp ripoff, anky being turned into a weird rhino armadillo with a caved in back
paper oriole
Its kinda heartbreaking to see
paper oriole
Yeah lmao
paper oriole
Its tail is kinda cool lookin but thats it
hybrid matrix
the armadillo with the club tail
paper oriole
lol
hybrid matrix
or is it manky
paper oriole
You've heard of maia milk now get ready for anky milk
hybrid matrix
XDDDD
paper oriole
It worsens my mood each time i lay eyes on it
hybrid matrix
imagine a mod that switched the models for hypsi and rex
except the size doesnt change so theres just massive frickin rexes chilling in the trees lmfao
paper oriole
I want a mod to remove magy and replace it with a viable animal
paper oriole
A mod to replace all animals with ovi *
hybrid matrix
i want a mod to make compies huge
and i want a mod to make anky into a galapagos tortoise
sturdy widget
Am I the only one that likes the new anky? I like the unique take on the animal, its silhouette is still the same but he got some neato thickass rhino skin. Don't really like the forelegs, but they might look better with a good skin
hybrid matrix
it looks like a glyptodon without fur my guy
real kraken
@night sand Thats meant to happen, you know how heavy a stego was?
hybrid matrix
they chonkers
night sand
ik its meant to happen, but smth shouldnt die after falling 2 feet
hybrid matrix
but its only with stego since it has weak legs
dude its legs r the weakest of the weak
night sand
it simply doesnt make it fun
sturdy widget
Its not two feet tho, more like 6, it just looks like a small distance cause you're huge
Just don't jump off shit
hybrid matrix
^
real kraken
it simply doesnt make it fun
You didnt see stegos hopping around back in the day
outer mauve
It would be cool to have an allo of Utah or Rex with dilo default colors. The whole color pallet we have should be available for all dinos.
night sand
You didnt see stegos hopping around back in the day
you should see the Stegos run animation then
night sand
Its not two feet tho, more like 6, it just looks like a small distance cause you...
its not 6, its much lower
glossy matrix
it looks like a glyptodon without fur my guy
How dare you
You insolent little
Glyptodon isn’t comparable to that... thing
Glyptodon looks cool
real kraken
you should see the Stegos run animation then
Ik the run animation is stupid
paper oriole
Swimming kinda has to eat stam on some dinos tho to keep them in their lane
thorny lynx
Carno's swim speed could improve just a bit. It's ass.
Shift swim feels like a normal swim.
glossy matrix
Swimming kinda has to eat stam on some dinos tho to keep them in their lane
They already swim slowly as fuck
I don’t see why they’d want to stay in water
sonic cloud
Carno isn’t an aquatic animal in any capacity, it doesn’t need to fast in the slightest
white spruce
ik its meant to happen, but smth shouldnt die after falling 2 feet
Guarantee it wasn't 2 feet, you're a giant creature. What might look like 2 feet is actually a very large fall.
night sand
this fall was as tall as a hypsi, but vertical
or maybe 2 vertical hypsis
either way, small as hell fall that killed an animal thats multi ton in weight
white spruce
So you fell as far as a human is tall. As an animal that is comparable in size to an elephant.
Yeah, you died. That's a 100% reasonable death.
night sand
no, that isnt, at most my leg should be hurt a good bit. But no way is that a oneshot death for an animal that can maim many.
patent flower
an elephants feet don't even support the force it would need to jump. Falling is a hole other story
sonic cloud
Seems like a fair death tbh
It’s infuriating so you have my sympathy, but use it as a learning experience
night sand
how does that seem like a fair death?
night sand
i fell on pocket falls, not the big waterfall drop, from one slightly higher side of the rock to the other.
patent flower
If fractures where a thing right now. I'd say you would have broken all 4 legs and would be bleeding to death over a longer period of time with nothing to do against it but wait. Immediate death sounds quiet nice.
sonic cloud
Tbh