It doesn’t look too mammalian like the concept
#general-feedback-discussion
inner orbit
vast wolf
the reason the anky was remodled is because its an old model made for TSL.
inner orbit
I seriously would much prefer a JW anky
hasty jackal
the reason the anky was remodled is because its an old model made for TSL.
@vast wolf but why not build up on the old one
inner orbit
This should be the ingame anky instead of the concept one
That looks like anky kind of
vast wolf
you cant build up on a model like that without redoing everything from the rig to the skin so why not just re make the entire animal anyway.
hasty jackal
i wouldnt mind that one, even though i would prefer one more along the lines of what we already have
inner orbit
I like the JW anky’s side spikes
vast wolf
jw anky is an ugly genetically modified nightmare that should not have come into this world.
vast wolf
thats legit not anky. its closer to saichania or zuul.
hasty jackal
jw anky is an ugly genetically modified nightmare that should not have come into this world.
@vast wolf it would fit the isle more than the concept
inner orbit
At least it looks like an ankylosaur
vast wolf
hasty jackal
i dont like the jw one, but at least it would fit in
vast wolf
hasty jackal
with the rest of the isles creatures
vast wolf
theres you turtle.
hasty jackal
its so frustrating that that one looks like a minmi, but they mess up the anky that much
inner orbit
@crystal trail what’s your opinion on the ankylosaurus concept?
silver zephyr
why did you ping punch?
vast wolf
a fan made edit to the anky just changing its spine to look more natural.
inner orbit
I pinged punch I just want to know his opinion
hasty jackal
a fan made edit to the anky just changing its spine to look more natural.
@vast wolf i still dislike the armor
and the legs are too long
vast wolf
"legs too long" the legs are barely half its body height
inner orbit
JW anky undeniably looks better
hasty jackal
yes too long for an anky as far as i know
vast wolf
only things people have complained about are the back and some people dont like the extra skin on the legs. never heard someone say a short animals legs were too long.
inner orbit
The skin rolls are weird looking
vast wolf
its based off an aramdillo or rhino to an extent.
having extra thick and loose skin makes it harder for anything to hurt you.
hasty jackal
yes but its not a mammal
vast wolf
we dont have any ankylosaur skin impressions below the hip so we dont know.
inner orbit
Too mammalian
hasty jackal
and since the isle goes for reptilian looks , its out of place
inner orbit
I still stand by the opinion a JW style anky would be much better
I do hope they scrap that concept
vast wolf
jw anky is more like a beetle not an ankylosaur.
inner orbit
It’s still better than that
vast wolf
this is perfect.
hasty jackal
its an improvement but not perfect
inner orbit
They look out of place
vast wolf
the community loves this edited concept so you have been out voted.
inner orbit
Really?
hasty jackal
i can still give my opinion
inner orbit
I still personally dislike it
vast wolf
yes the only issue people have is the spine and somewhat the front legs looking a bit odd with the extra skin.
inner orbit
I have issues with the whole armour plating
vast wolf
the loose skin?
vast wolf
loose skin is better armor than osteoderms btw.
inner orbit
It still looks out of place
vast wolf
osteoderms will break loose skin likely wont and if it dose it will only cause damage to a small area.
inner orbit
I don’t need a lecture
vast wolf
agree to disagree that your opinion is not favorable.
hasty jackal
but dinosaurs didnt have the kind of mammalian skin that is shown here, as far as i know and its outof place for the designers to speculate like this
inner orbit
Yes
hasty jackal
the dino looks out of place in game
hasty jackal
and its not accurate as far as i know especially not the armor
inner orbit
The armour yes
It needs to be wider
At least the JW anky has some things right
Like being too wide to grab
vast wolf
we cant see how wide it is because we have a side on view not a front on or top down view.
honest sparrow
Yes and the death wollf thing they call Utahraptor, Godzilla, and mini-glavneus are incredibly accurate
silver zephyr
nice mh reference
vast wolf
utah is so bad. cant wait for them to get dunked on by kentro.
honest sparrow
Not to mention the nocturnal xenomorph and other weird ass creatures
Old anky is just a chonk ball, new anky just looks weirder
hasty jackal
Yes and the death wollf thing they call Utahraptor, Godzilla, and mini-glavneus are incredibly accurate
@honest sparrow look up i already said they are inaccurate
hasty jackal
but the anky looks out of place aswell as being inaccurate
honest sparrow
Is that among all the other abominations it looks fine
It just looks like anky with a dip and some weird ridges to me
hasty jackal
it has mammalian skin
honest sparrow
And?
hasty jackal
which just looks weird among the other super reptilian dinos
honest sparrow
Eh not really
covert birch
Personally didn't realize the whole it has mammalian skin thing until someone else mentioned it looks like a rhino
Personally my main issue is more the dent and less the fact it's got loose skin
honest sparrow
Ye
The dent is off putting currently
The skin itself is fine, it just needs to look good
icy lion
the skin itself is decently scaled/reptilian, especially on the arms
a lot of dinos on the roster barely even have scales, utah for example is just kinda wrinkly
honest sparrow
Just looks like tough wrinkly skin
hasty jackal
the arm looks like an armadillo no like a reptile
inner orbit
It does look too armadillo/rhino like
There are scales
But the skin rolls in general look odd
valid elk
What do you guys think of my suggestion?
ashen elm
Shun would be good. It's 3 tons and we need more mid tiers. 👏
charred nova
agreed it could also be a psuedo apex like para is
rocky sable
amargasaurus or apatosaurus would be nice
bleak atlas
@charred nova nice suggestion. I like the ankytail. Would probably to bonebreak and much damage
@barren zephyr I like youre suggestion. Those beach ideas are great and would be cool. I hope they update it with aquatic creatures and make a unique ecosystem out of it. Something different from the jungle with unique plants, ai and creatures
azure wadi
free food on the beach
charred nova
there really should be some mid sized sauropods shuno is perfect for that
bleak atlas
And it looks cool. I love that ankytail
still temple
Shuno / Bajada > Magy
azure wadi
Shuno / Bajada > Magy
agreed
barren zephyr
Shuno is would be great for the game. Unlike the magy, who is tiny, makes it more viable sense it can clearly defend it self. Not too small for a playable and not too big either. Though I feel like it have to be a bit bigger then what it was irl or else it be like another stego/anky.
strange wave
all of these recent rugops suggestions and none of them are as reasonably out there as mine
inner orbit
What’s yours?
strange wave
inner orbit
I have an issue with that
Why would it have the best sense of smell surely that’s something the rex should have
Ik it’s a scavenger in your idea
But it’s a bit odd
I like the rest though
covert birch
Rex doesnt nesecaryily need the strongest smell, just one of the bests
That title can also easily be given to something such as a vulture like flyer or some other scavenger type thin
inner orbit
Rex realistically would but ingame I get your point
slate marlin
none of the Rugops suggestions/feedback has impressed me so far, except the one from Bork who (unlike many others) actually came up with a unique and interesting idea that could work amazingly well in the game
barren zephyr
what was bork's?
barren zephyr
generic?
for an animal it's sized? that would work so well as a large nocturnal hunter
Rugops ain't big at all compared to any of the other predators what so ever. but it as a semi scavenger/nocturnal predator sounds interesting
though i think a septic bite would cause a bit of a nausea affect
should be duration based depending on the creature
slate marlin
ah yes bcs things like "headbutting", "camouflage" and "another cera copy" aren't generic at all hmm? Yeah I get you
the one time somebody comes up with something unique you dare call it 'generic'
barren zephyr
yeah i skimmed through alot of those
slate marlin
I'm not surprised
barren zephyr
they're not great
slate marlin
no because lots of people don't put in the actual effort and think 5 minutes about their idea
barren zephyr
^
slate marlin
the amount of dinosaur suggestions/proposals I've seen with 2 to 5 small paragraphs is disappointing
mental sleet
You can do a fair bit with 2 to 5 small paragraphs, as long as the ideas are solid.
mental sleet
I see a few flaws in there, however.
barren zephyr
with rugops jackal or?
mental sleet
That animal, if made into a scavenger, risks a lot by coming out where he would normally find food.
He can't stay in the forests, as that's where you would find Utahraptor.
Utahraptor will body him.
He won't be faster than it, and the defensive mechanism is quite bad.
So you head out in the open, find larger animals and their corpses.
Also for some reason it is... locked from eating recently-killed prey items due to a... weak jaw ?
slate marlin
yeah that's just stupid
honestly have no idea how people come up with those kind of ideas
barren zephyr
i mean you'd have to fictionalize rugops a bit to make it fit that jackal play style
slate marlin
I get that some carnivores can't eat certain ribs because it's simply too small for em, but locking food behind a 'weak jaw'? Rugops already is inferior and by making it even harder to sustain itself will only make it even worse
barren zephyr
Rugops is a an average built abelisaur right? so i'd assume it would have a decent chance at getting away from utahs. i could easily see it being a plains scavenger and eating small stuff like tacos and oros. (like legacy)
mental sleet
hm, you also have to keep in mind what it's going to find in the environments you want it to be.
and how he can survive said encounters
if there's any ''auto-death'' encounters that are encouraged by biome, animal's bad.
slate marlin
my knowlegde about Rugops is lacking but so far I still believe in Bork's suggestion
slate marlin
I'm surprised it took that long
strange wave
yeah people were against it because mono and "cerato could have it too"
slate marlin
lmao
barren zephyr
i think with a few touch ups here and there the idea could work. I honestly have no idea wtf mono is gonna do
but cerato is just a wolverine
slate marlin
comparing cerato to rugops smh..
barren zephyr
^ not a fair match up what so ever
slate marlin
I have no idea what they're gonna do with Mono, but hey, the devs must've tinkered long enough about it to make it viable into the game I guess
slate marlin
yeah... I think it's gonna be closer related to Dilo somehow, not sure though
barren zephyr
i mean it was gonna have some sort of venom at one point
back when progression was a thing
along with herrera
slate marlin
I've always assumed Mono was gonna be a nocturnal venom equipped hunter as well, interesting nonetheless
I also wanna ask something regarding dinosaur suggestions/proposals. What topics are most important to be discussed in such documents?
barren zephyr
mechanics and how they would be viable
thats my guess anyway
like for example
I think hatzegopteryx would be a better pick than quetz
- Because hatz has a more robust built and is the apex predator of where it was. and since it's build suggests it would be a lethal land predator as well as in the sky. than quetz's build
mental sleet
Counter: A land-predator flyer is a very bad mix of abilities
barren zephyr
let me rephrase. i think it could be more maneuverable than quetz on land.
slate marlin
I will address Hatzegopteryx in my Quetz doc
barren zephyr
since again. it's structure suggests that it would
slate marlin
I will briefly talk about the comparison between the two and how their rivalry could work if for example they both were in the game
I wanna make Hatz unique and different from Quetz too, since I still believe they both have their noticeable differences
barren zephyr
that too cuz Azhdarchids are like really the best pterasaurs ever
barren zephyr
and there wouldn't be much competition if it was just one Azhdarchid
hatz would have a better time faring on land than quetz. thats just a fact really
plus the two would be eating the same thing. Carcasses, small dinosaurs, etc
slate marlin
It is a fact indeed
barren zephyr
technically all the dinosaurs already have camo abilities
slate marlin
Hatz and Quetz do share the same diet (almost). I'd believe Hatz are more focused/better suited for hunting hatchlings and or juveniles because their faster and more robust, they're more 'active hunters' in a sense. While Quetz mainly scavenges from the biggest bodies they can find and occassionally hunt some smaller dinosaurs because they have an easier time scaring off bigger predators
I'd also think that Quetz travel around to scavenge much more, while Hatz are more inclined to keep hunting in a certain area for a while before they set course to another place.
barren zephyr
oh yeah. also since the majority of animals are gonna be AI. quetz and hatz could have a threaten that involves them standing on their legs and flapping and screeching
cause things like AI carnos n stuff to back off
slate marlin
yeah that'd be a cool feature for sure
kinda like in this picture
a 3call while landing should look like that ^^^^^ it'd be perfect
barren zephyr
you know what venom does right?
slate marlin
he/she didn't even read Bork suggestion lel
cause the comparison you've made is clearly mistaken
barren zephyr
it's gonna be one of those convos
slate marlin
again, if you want camouflage then just create a skin adapted to your environment Point :)
barren zephyr
no one is stopping you
slate marlin
also, we were discussing about Quetz and Hatz. That's no reason for you to rudely interrupt our convo with your daily Rugops suggestion spam
barren zephyr
also chameleon's don't blend in with their environment fyi. they're color change is due to their emotions
icy lion
barren zephyr
aggressive much?
icy lion
x2
barren zephyr
i'd rather remove rugops if this is how you talk about it
knew you were gonna say that
you're being quite obnoxious. can you like cool it
icy lion
so you completely interrupt a convo on hatz with more rugops spam but then we're off topic... k
barren zephyr
@severe idol you wanna read this and make your final thoughts?
theres a rule called use common sense. you should look into it
severe idol
What am I reading?
Nah, you two chill out, stop arguing. Tell me what I'm to be looking at.
barren zephyr
oh i'm mellowed out. i'm just wanting you to read over the convo happening
severe idol
What the hell's a rugops.
slate marlin
idk, a certain person keeps interrupting convos with the same rugops spam everyday... it's getting tiring
severe idol
Not scrolling anywhere, I'm asking you. Now I don't care about the rugops.
It's one stream of consciousness. This is the only channel to do it. Don't insist on dominating the conversation - any of you. You all have to play in this sandbox together. If one of you tries to claim it all as your because you're playing it right now, I'll take you out of the sandbox all together.
I see you three are typing.
If you're arguing again, I'm just going to silence all three of you.
inner orbit
I think I don’t like most propositions for rugops
severe idol
Taco, let them interrupt with their rugops stuff. If you don't like them, just block them.
inner orbit
Including borks
slate marlin
great idea
barren zephyr
i was more or less gonna explain the situation but ok
severe idol
Lamar, you continuing to try to hammer home your point is arguing. I'm not here for a discussion, I'm here to arbitrate the rules.
severe idol
You guys need to co-exist. I don't care what your arguments are on either side.
inner orbit
I think everyone needed to not get so annoyed and to agree to disagree
severe idol
Taco, if his comments are in the way of your conversation - block him or ignore him. That's all there is to it.
inner orbit
I think everyone needs to chill
slate marlin
Primate... please
inner orbit
Just go on different discord’s or block each other like Saoul said
severe idol
Rule 2 exists to combat this sort of behavior. I was called in, that's the verdict. Block him if you don't like what he's saying and vice-versa. If you feel like that's not good enough, then call a Moderator in.
Now we're beyond this. Go back to your regularly scheduled Feedback-Discussion. If you want to comment further, just send me a DM.
covert birch
Can anyone find that old flaffy rugops doc from like 2018
slate marlin
so... let's rewind back to where we've ended, the picture with the Quetz threatening the Rex
slate marlin
wdym?
inner orbit
I think Quetz and Hatz have their different perks
Quetz=taller,intimidating
Hatz=more robust and shorter but still big
slate marlin
I should call you 'mister obvious' from now on Primate :)
covert birch
Quetz wouldnt be any risk to rex
Ones a half a ton twig with wings
Rex is an 8 ton monster with a mouth that can break quets in 2
slate marlin
okay... and which one of us have ever claimed a Quetz/Hatz could take on a Rex?
inner orbit
Hahah Basyll and I’ll call you clever
slate marlin
right, no one
covert birch
"Quetz threatening the rex"
inner orbit
You can intimidate most things by looking bigger
barren zephyr
if it's an AI
slate marlin
intimidation is a thing you know
inner orbit
The Quetz in that image looks massive while spreading out its wings
barren zephyr
again if it's AI then it's a fine mechanic.
slate marlin
I beg to differ but I get where you're coming from
covert birch
AI I guess it can work
barren zephyr
yeah players could obviously see the bullshit a quetz is pulling. AI not so much
covert birch
But like players will never be dealing with shit like that unless forced through fear mechanics or server rules
slate marlin
I want there to be a mechanic around it, but I'm still brainstorming about that one
covert birch
Question is would the AI learn from the whole run away thing
inner orbit
Fear mechanic so like ark with the Yuty in ark where your Dino runs away uncontrollably?
Like that
Or something different
covert birch
That is horrid
barren zephyr
depends. like i said. if it's a carno then like "SHIT FUCK THAT THING IS BIG AND IT'S SQUAKING AT ME"
slate marlin
obviously players aren't gonna fall for the big flyer bs cause they know their stats will be shit, but there still should be something that makes them think like "oh shit, I know they're easy prey but I should remain careful"
inner orbit
I agree
covert birch
But like back to the ai learning thin
Would an ai rex who has already killed a quetz be more hesitant of running and stand its ground
barren zephyr
i think it should just be creatures based
slate marlin
not sure whether machine learning is gonna be a thing for AI
barren zephyr
carnos being the biggest thing to not automatically run away but be cautious as fuck
slate marlin
sounds extremely complicated
covert birch
Paradym literally said they hired amarock b/c he does machine learning
inner orbit
I think fear would have to go off based on size it could stop solo Utah’s assriding larger dinosaurs
barren zephyr
His resume had machine learning on it
covert birch
Trample collision locational n such
Already stop that assirdin issue
slate marlin
interesting 
barren zephyr
meaning he's probably good
slate marlin
the current AI uses some kind of 'power' score to decide whether their opponent is stronger or weaker than them
covert birch
Could have like the ais history affect that power score, for example a cerato ai which has combated a carno and won before would be more aggressive n such to a carno
slate marlin
that'd be a cool thing
stamina, health and growth all affect power score too I believe
Amarok explained it once on his stream and it looked complex
barren zephyr
sounds effective tho
strange relic
@covert birch https://imgur.com/YoXfsd8
covert birch
Thx bro
barren zephyr
now thats a rugops
barren zephyr
megalania has venom
covert birch
But yes flaffy dossier for rugops is prolly the best imo uf mono doesnt go a route of that manner
inner orbit
Yeah komodos use venom
inner orbit
I like Flaffy’s minmi suggestion
covert birch
Personally prefer page 2 of that one
Or was it page 3?
The one with it swimming about
still temple
2
covert birch
Thx lol
barren zephyr
do you know how venom is going to work in game?
covert birch
Why tho
barren zephyr
skin creator
inner orbit
I think Flaffy makes great suggestions in general
covert birch
Rugops with camo isnt actually needed for it to survive n such
Mfw bob just copypastes flaffys lurdu suggestion into their game
inner orbit
Though
ebon crypt
Dropping in to say that camo is pointless cause you can just make a camo skin. I got no further commentary
still temple
the maximum extent I could accept for Rugops camo is anole type "colour changing"
Basically from brown to green, and everything in between those 2 mud colours.
but nothing like chameleons, or indominus
barren zephyr
it's an abelisaur. with a generic abelisaur build. it'll be able to run away from most things
covert birch
Anole type camo imo can fit a smaller animal like homalo much better
inner orbit
Have as bad a turn radius as carno
barren zephyr
not by much
covert birch
Mfw there are things smaller then rugops ingane
Much smaller
It being small isnt much of an argument when animals like homalo n compy are in
inner orbit
This convo is 🤡
still temple
commits oversize
inner orbit
It goes around in circles and annoys everyone
barren zephyr
^ you could also do that irrc
covert birch
With max irl sizes happening doubt well get big rugops nomore
Especially since that would just make it cerato who can run
covert birch
Capybara minmi is a beaut
inner orbit
I like flaffy’s idea
covert birch
"Hoglike" burrowing minmi is satan
still temple
Minmi good, Rugops stinki.
I have achieved comedy
inner orbit
covert birch
The funni opinio
barren zephyr
flaffy i give you comedian award
inner orbit
I like the turtle style idea
covert birch
Minmi living near water for food sources n a tool to escape but not actually entering it until needed would be best choice instead of the hog thing kissen wants
inner orbit
I think flaffy’s idea is the best
still temple
But yeah Rugops is def a major challenge with all the new small bois being confirmed. Wouldnt be impossible though.
barren zephyr
kissen wants a hog minmi?
inner orbit
It’s like a mashup of a bunch of turtles that’s a better idea
barren zephyr
now thats just heresy
inner orbit
Than hog minmi
covert birch
In the roadmap stream she said to give it hoglike burrowing
still temple
"Water adjacent Minmi", whatever that means
inner orbit
Turtle minmi=👌
barren zephyr
ava is literally a hog though.
covert birch
Yep
still temple
Proto or hell even Ava should be given hog-like burrows.
give Minmi riverside burrows, IF burrows are an absolute must
covert birch
Ehh
barren zephyr
thats just adorable
covert birch
Idk if there are even riverside's which look like tjay
But like that ain't the point ofc
inner orbit
Appreciate the cuteness
covert birch
How much would riverside burrowing. At least in a manner such as that reduce minmi interacting with other animals
Cuz like burrowing takes it down one notch
Now being only accessible from the water takes it down even more
covert birch
What animal could likely have benefits within the water who can also burrow invade or dig out
Austro maybe
Deino can prolly dig like gators can
still temple
commits nile/water monitor for Megalania juvis
now that would be a real threat for minmi
inner orbit
Deino burrows would be a massive stretch
icy lion
deino digging up minmi burrows for a little snack
covert birch
It wouldnt, if ya consider crocs burrow for nesting
still temple
gators are known for being able to make dens, wouldnt be a stretch for smaller deinos to be able to do the same
he just vibin
inner orbit
I see what you meant
covert birch
Herra being the all terrain nile monitor would be great
Ya live in trees? Herra will find you
Ya nest in burrows? Herra egg nommin time
Ya like to swim? Herras gonna nip ya
inner orbit
I think deino making them is a stretch
covert birch
Deino wouldnt be living in burrows n such
barren zephyr
it's really hard to see a full ass alligator doin that
inner orbit
Yeah
still temple
hasnt tree herrera been snapped
covert birch
Bryan said "why tf would herra climb trees"
Other then that idk
silver zephyr
why wouldnt herrera climb trees?
inner orbit
Yes
torn thistle
I think there was some concept of Rugops color dimorphism posted somewhere a while back. Don't quite remember where, though
severe idol
@thorn willow There's a segment of the Steam Discussion for that.
But I agree with you.
vestal rune
@covert maple have you seen what amarok has been working on?
vestal rune
ah, you should probably check it out, his work for AI for evrima far surpases anything in legacy
covert maple
Nice nice
bleak atlas
@covert maple teno ai will run around in herds of 2-3 Tenos
rocky sable
i think it should be 5 adults and like 4 babys that follow one like babysitter or their mom
rocky sable
yeah like maybe some nomadic males here and there but mostly herds
barren zephyr
Maybe Utahs should form packs like wolfs/hyenas
rocky sable
hyenas since wolves only hierarchy is the first breeding pair or who started the pack (the mother and father of all the pack)
barren zephyr
Make sense
rocky sable
yeah hyenas , the females are bigger stronger and meaner to protect their kids from all sorts of things thats why theres no male leaders in hyena clans because female hyenas harass them , but wolves are more "helpful" to eachother as in they work together blah bla blah but a wolf pack is all family , if they want to mate they gotta leave , hyenas groups are made out of a male and female who originally meet , their pups and then nomadic females and males who join
i went on a rant about hyenas and wolves didnt i
barren zephyr
Well then I trust you the most about it. Perhaps uthas could form packs like hyenas but still look after each other the way wolf does
Or they are just like hyenas
rocky sable
yeah maybe , they help eachother take down stuff and respect eachother as packmates but once the prey drops , instant feeding frenzy females and hatchlings/juves eat first males get pushed around
barren zephyr
I agree. Then with the social combat system coming, there could be members who fights around the best bites of the meal
rocky sable
i think utahs should have like a female hierarchy like most pack hunters today (lycoans hyenas , Dholes) so they can protect their offspring and make sure everything they need and they can take if needed
barren zephyr
Now I start to get a lot of Jurassic Part 3 nostalgia lol
rocky sable
lol
inner orbit
I’m going to say something too
barren zephyr
Go ahead
inner orbit
Being smaller isn’t always based on that
It would be interesting if you had small parents you were small
Like an inheritance system
rocky sable
like genes?
inner orbit
Yes
rocky sable
so if your parents were active healthy dinosaurs you got better fitter genes
inner orbit
Yeah
barren zephyr
Sounds almost too advanced
inner orbit
That would be an interesting expansion on Taco’s idea
barren zephyr
For AI
rocky sable
but if your parents got sick offtend hurt themselves and were attacked often you got weaker build to be faster and better and running away than attacking
barren zephyr
That sounds good
inner orbit
I’ll write that down
rocky sable
what would happen if a feathered utah and a non feathered utah laid eggs together? would half be feathered and half non feathered? or they have some areas thinly covered with scales and then some feathers , would that mean players would look for other scaled/feathered utahs to mate with so their kids dont look ugly?
rocky sable
will you look shitty or cool? take a chance! only 2 pence a pop sonny!
inner orbit
Pretty much
rocky sable
what about trike horns
since didnt they say trike could have curved or straight horns
rocky sable
if a curved horned trike , and straight horned trike mated would it just be the roulette or like a mutation like this picture
rocky sable
or how about the new feathered velociraptor and compsagnathus would it be more of utah like thing for velociraptor but compys have little hair like feathers in like a fur coat so would a mix compy have feathers in certain places or just small patches
inner orbit
I would restrict the feathered and non feathered feather regions to the back and tail or the arms and tail
rocky sable
would they form clans like different AI feathered and non feathered , curved horns and straight horns would they hate each other and you could like know where you are depending on the AI horn shape/feathers like like would the southern trikes with not a lot of predators have curved horns since nothing ever happens , but the straight horns are always defensive and are quick to attack but maybe liek the feathered velociraptors live in forests and sometimes burrow but the scaled ones spend time in the open and live mostly by bigger animals
or idk maybe something
inner orbit
It depends on the players
Real animals likely wouldn’t
But players
Are a different story
rocky sable
theyll do anything
inner orbit
Yeah
rocky sable
what if you try to blend in with an AI herd , if you act outside of normal AI behaviour like call excessively they begin to attack you and make you leave them alone since they dont want to be eaten because someone wouldnt shut up , so if you want AI protection as like another herbivore you gotta act behaved so you dont get the boot of rejection
like maybe since trike AI cant see behind the frill as a warning thing other AI like Dryo would 4 call to get the trike to turn around and face the danger head on
valid zephyr
blending two different types would be interesting
allows intermediate horn shapes, crests, colours, feathers, etc
rocky sable
but what if a slouching like smallest adult you can get/ unhealthiest and get the biggest/healthiest like Utahs (lets say the female is the healthier one since she was always on the move and hunting , the male was hurt a lot hunted and hid in bushes) what would happen if they had eggs would some be weaker and frail or would some be strong and healthy or would some be a mediator aka regular , the most general
valid zephyr
also if they do alternate dino skins like a tarbo skin for rex.... what if they blend.
cory skin for para. just picture a cory para crest... 
inner orbit
So anyone like my ptera suggestion?
rocky sable
isnt is just color customization? what would be the point of a cory , para crest or just a bigger alberto i think the new color customization would have your color choices and your like differences, feathers crest etc
yes primate
i thought it was very well executed
silk hatch
So anyone like my ptera suggestion?
@inner orbit
I don't know why it assumes Ptera would get outcompeted by Pela.
Realistically Pelagnornis is worse at basically everything compared to Ptera. It's got a spiked beak for helping it catch fish from the surface of the water, and it can glide further. So it's somewhat better than Ptera at those two things presumably.
Other than that, it's worse on the ground due to its shitty feet, it can't leave the ground on its own and needs outside assistance to launch, it's so bad at flapping flight that it's in doubt whether it's capable of that at all which means it's maneuverability in the air is hot garbage, it's wings are actually more delicate that Ptera's due to how feathers get so brittle at larger sizes while Ptera's got the muscle and actinofibril, not helped by how skinny and long its wings are.
I guess it could bully Ptera at nesting sites since that would force a head-to-head confrontation or lose the eggs? That's realistically the only thing it can do that actually puts Pteranodon in a bad position.
inner orbit
They probably won’t make pela like that sadly
silk hatch
Pelagornis wasn't a seagull with power, it's a shitty albatross that didn't scale up well
silk hatch
Pteranodon is basically a Super Gannet
pale sorrel
@barren zephyr I think that could be nice, yeah! 🙂
Though one thing I would point out: It's example, not exsamble. Nothing major though! 😄
barren zephyr
yeah, I forgot how to write it ;D
barren zephyr
Yo, how you all feeling about my suggestion?
strange wave
could tenonto even run on 2 legs?
rocky sable
seems like most hadrosaurs could so why could a young tento pick up those front legs and run because they aint got that huge tail yet they need all the speed they can get
hasty radish
@barren zephyr i like your suggestion, more speed but but loses stamina very quickly in a fast race
covert birch
Tommy tenonto wasnt a hadro so that logic dont apply
Bugger be an iguanodontid
Dryos closer to it then maia
barren zephyr
Exactly. Dryos are in the same “family” has Tento and since it’s a small animal it would only make sense if juvie Tentos have a dryo like style (even for hadro juvies)
covert birch
Idk how well it would look with that long tail
barren zephyr
And also @hasty radish. I don’t think it’s a good idea to make it loose stamina quicker. In that case it still won’t keep up with the herd
vast wolf
its just less costly to copy paste the animation and if it looks fine who cares.
barren zephyr
^
covert birch
That's my thing
Will it look fine
Cuz with that long tail I feel like the juvi would look like itll topple over backwards
vast wolf
tenonto already looks like a squirrel when it runs, the juvie is just even closer to that.
barren zephyr
Thou I feel like a long tail would would balance the weight for a biped
vast wolf
they could allow it to stand up or drop back down with ctrl but thats a different mechanic.
barren zephyr
Yea I don’t see what it would improve if hadrosaurs had that ability.
If you run you run and that’s it
vast wolf
shant used to have something like that but it was removed.
covert birch
Shant had the current para anims
Then they gave it to para
N shant new ones
At least for the bipedal run that is
barren zephyr
Para too. It had the biped run of the shant when it was added but then it got changed
To something better in my opinion. The shant biped run looked clumsy
vast wolf
paras run is a tweaked version of shants old run.
barren zephyr
What really?
vast wolf
its hip axis was rotated up.
barren zephyr
I had no idea
vast wolf
thats mostly what's different and the juvie is an identical clone of shant.
it even has the all fours turn.
vast wolf
luckily para is getting redone just like almost everything.
hasty radish
although it would be nice to have grass that loses volume when herbivores eat. Then after it grows back. 🙂
vestal rune
@violet magnet evrima IS the public testing ground, QA are there to find the common, and severe bugs, the public is there to find everything else
basically QA make sure the update is actually playable, players try and find all the chinks in the update
violet magnet
Maybe I should edit it and suggest bugs just get patched faster instead of running it through weeks of QA first
mental sleet
Bold statement.
vestal rune
I think the devs already are patching the bugs as fast as they can
they'd love to patch them faster but they're already going full speed
mossy moat
Having them through QA or not will probably not make the bugs dissapear faster
Coding is what takes time - and when you code something, other bugs can quickly appear that you didn't expect.
Very bold statement lol
devout flower
cobalt compass
take one bug out, get 3 for free
sour fossil
we meeting here now?
cobalt compass
yep^^
violet magnet
hi 👋
sour fossil
👋
opaque warren
cobalt compass
tacit night
is it necessary for this many people to respond to a single persons suggestion?
mellow seal
ashen elm
tfw when people ignore my suggestion 
mellow seal
i like it but i dont have the mental capacity to properly analyze it and give actual effort into it
but i still like it
👍
ashen elm
Thank you. 
mellow seal
tacit night
also just my opinion but the "Bold statement." comment feels kinda unnecessary and easily perceivable as a threat
violet magnet
it didn't really seem like a bold statement, given..."feedback"
tacit night
^
barren zephyr
Guys, what do u think about my Magyarosaurus armor suggestion?
vestal rune
well I'm sure there'll be an armour mechanic for anky, magy could probably borrow it to a lesser degree
barren zephyr
hmm... Well.... I got idea, because, Magy has no chances against allo, or sucho, so as Magy has small armor on it's shoulders, I think it would least help a bit
bleak atlas
She is faster and has cc probably
Thats her chance to survive
Cc attackers and run
barren zephyr
hmm.... Devs decide how it will go, as those are just suggestion :/ maybe faster, but... I don't see how Sauropod would outrun smething like Allo, that's my though tho :/ but... I'm not dev, so I'm not the important player or anything :/
inner orbit
What is it?
safe galleon
@barren zephyr yes?
inner orbit
Not likely
@barren zephyr Idk if it ever gets that cheap on sale
And Idk if the devs would give it to you for free
eternal owl
@barren zephyr I thought the weight system would be removed?
covert birch
Weight system is bring removed
Weight will now only affect combat via trample and food value
cobalt compass
@vocal lily i dont think such a map would be made by devs, but after modding gets reactivated i dont see a reason why not anyone could do it
hasty radish
@vocal lily That'd be cool. 🙂
barren zephyr
@eternal owl ahh.... I did not know, thx for telling though 🙂
vocal lily
Thanks guys
barren zephyr
Mudskippers would be neat. Perhaps juvenile spinosaurids could have them as food source when the adults can’t. Personally I think they’re kinda cool but I also hate them cause they’re disgusting and creeps me out😖
vestal rune
wait what's with thall the suggestions saying to add core mechanics first? I mean it's what the devs are planning to do
mellow seal
because the topic of it came up and it suggested dinos either before or with core mechanics and all that is done
slate marlin
just people talking in feedback when they shouldn't be
covert birch
They are actual suggestions
Since epunch said the plan is changing from core mechanics first dinos 2nd
To a "better one"
simple wagon
When I can't react with ✅ on Jen's suggestion ;_;
safe galleon
valid zephyr
the reactions were such a nice and clear way of knowing what the community thought of an idea
slate marlin
people were trolling too much with reactions
but I do agree that it needs to return in some form
maybe only like ✅ and ⛔
bleak atlas
Jo reactions would be nice
mighty girder
They got rid of it because people would "Bully" with reactions
if you cant take how people will react to a suggestion you shouldnt bother making it in my opinion
oh its all still pinned
Idk how anyone gets an ego off of reacting personally but
yeah
would love to have them back too, even if it is just a checkmark and an x to show agreement/disagreement
valid zephyr
only ✅ and ❌ should be allowed imo
slate marlin
I agree
icy lion
im not sure its possible to select what emotes to disable sadly
valid zephyr
just have it as a rule for the channel
strange wave
iirc there is a bot for that
mighty girder
there is @icy lion
its what they did for announcements lol
you just set it so people cant add reactions, granted you'd have to either have a bot make suggestions to auto add reactions then
or have a mod come and add check or x to all suggestions
icy lion
thatd take a lot of extra work from the mods tho, unless suppression field can do it
additionally theres ⏲️ which is completely contextual
mighty girder
Nah dyno doesnt have a suggestion feature
ashen elm
Khan you realize the suggestion and feedback channels were merged right? That's why you see "day dreams" in the feedback channel.
And people were giving suggestions before Evrima even released, they are just ideas to implement in the future, it doesn't have a time limit on when they plan to implement them.
If we deleted or stopped giving suggestions because the game is still getting fixed, might as well remove the entire channel.
And for the record they do take suggestions. The blood splatter and nutrition system were both ideas that were received favorably by the community and ended up being concepts for Evrima as just a few examples.
covert birch
I think the day dreams referred to the
Daily updates n shit we were told bout
last remnant
^
ashen elm
I still can't really believe how people on here actually seem to think that any of these ideas you got here are going to implemented while the base game itself and evrima both aren't even close to a finished productI
That's not the way it reads.
covert birch
That can apply to one of 2 things
Suggested ideas or the devs ideas for the future
ashen elm
The former makes more sense to me, because he explicitly mentions feedback in the sentence following. But I suppose the user themself can clarify if they read this channel.
tepid gate
I also think that they meant the community's ideas that are posted in that channel.
south grove
@ashen elm I mean I get your basic assessment but don't you think it would be way more helpful to try to adjust the current feedback so the devs could actually use it like right now or in the new future? I mean of course "daydreaming" is okay to a certain degree, but everytime I look into the feedback channel there's another user who's talking about some sort of totally new mechanic or dinosaur and all I wanted to say is that this is just not the way we should treat the feedback channel in a constructive way.
Its of course okay to post your ideas but acutal feedback, if you want it to have any real influence in the development progress, should be somewhat close to the state of the game right now.
icy lion
there is actual feedback in there
ashen elm
I mean, I was never a fan of the merging in the first place. It dilutes the two channels. I'm fine with people giving more constructive feedback but people shouldn't stop giving suggestions either.
icy lion
however there used to be a separate channel for suggestions
covert birch
They should bring the sep channels back with reacys
Helps know what idea is and isnt popular with the community
tepid gate
Yea, I agree that suggestions and feedback should be separate channels, the two aren't really all that connected.
south grove
Separating both channels would certainly be helpful, idk why they changed that
tepid gate
It's just confusing trying to read one and bumping into the other.
covert birch
They changed it before for moderation reasons iirc
ashen elm
Well hopefully Punch or one of the other devs reads this conversation. For whatever reason they did it, its still creating issues.
covert birch
@mighty spear dondi said that is what may be happening in the future with animals who function the same ingame as like payed cosmetics
He also said that feathers will be a customizable option for some species in the future along with other stuff like horn customization for ceratopsids
mighty spear
Oh I must've either missed it or it mightve been before when I started playing the isle (i only started playing late December of 2019)
Regardless thank you for the info @covert birch 💙
covert birch
Np
valid zephyr
Khan people have to post their ideas in feedback because the suggestions channel got merged into feedback. there was a dedicated suggestions channel once where people could post their ideas, and other users could react to say what they thought of them.
that's the reason people now spam all these big ideas in feedback.
I'm not a fan of merging the channels at all.
languid crown
Same
Much easier to know where the community is at with reactions then scrolling through 100 comments
slate marlin
does anyone here have a chat link to that burrowing feedback document? Can't seem to find it
it was incredibly polished with drawn examples
fair belfry
was there any update in the last 2 weeks?
covert birch
It was like 2 weeks and a few days ago
covert birch
Yep
silver zephyr
bleak atlas
wide nymph
Plz add speckles UwU
hasty radish
yerhhh xD
hasty radish
fair belfry
this game is never gonna finish lol
hasty radish
@terse hornet like suggestion 👍 🙂
inner orbit
@terse hornet Good Suggestion I like it and it sounds balanced
rocky sable
seems nice , might i add on? what if when you have the nest down , you can pick a male from your group to be the male of the nest so the male of the children , so your colors and their colors combined to make the kids skins , would make nesting cool and getting mixed skins cool instead of leagacy's regular skin it sometimes a special color
terse hornet
I think.. something like that is already planned though idk how you choose the male of your nest but I like that idea too!
slate marlin
@random imp that is already planned
random imp
link me the messages/ stream where one of the devs explained the sleeping animations and mechanic
ashen elm
I agree MEE6, Plateo looks off. I hope if they add it they edit the model more
ashen elm
Probably cuz they have it as quad.
inner orbit
I really hate quad plateo
vast wolf
still not even sure if plateo is confirmed. i do like the one on the bottom with shorter arms a lot more though.
if it must be quadrupedal this would look a lot better.
ashen elm
👏 Yes to Basylls suggestion, adding limited reactions would be nice
vast wolf
yeah they should not have been removed in the first place.
barren zephyr
@idle helm i think you're forgetting acro
idle helm
Acro is not saurophaganax
barren zephyr
acro is the same size as saurophaganax
barren zephyr
saurophaganax is also too close looking to allosaurus
barren zephyr
allo is probably also gonna have something to do with it's play style that depends on how large (or small) it's gonna be
idle helm
Saurophaganax has like spines
vast wolf
sauro is identical to acro and giga. its legit just big allo.
idle helm
True
vast wolf
its gameplay is nothing thats not already filled.
idle helm
All the gameplays are already filled
barren zephyr
uhuh so why suggest sauro?
idle helm
Because this is an apex that need to be in ONE game and he has more gameplay like a dilo and a allo
barren zephyr
it's in a couple games
barren zephyr
pangea survival
vast wolf
giga - take on the mid tiers and super heavy things like shant/camma. rex ambush based bruiser that can overpower most animals with ease and hits like a truck. spino is semi aquatic and is more defense than offence on land but it ambushes like a crocodile and eats fish.
idle helm
Where is the speed in this team ?
barren zephyr
the apexes in general are already kinda fast
idle helm
No
barren zephyr
do i need to bring up sucho
barren zephyr
uhuh but we don't need an apex that is as fast as allo
idle helm
And why ?
barren zephyr
it would be overpowered
barren zephyr
explain how it wouldn't
idle helm
A rex is perfect to kill him
idle helm
He ambush him, bite him and it's done
barren zephyr
again he can run away from it if it's as fast as an allo
idle helm
The way to kill fast things are to ambush them
barren zephyr
ambush is situational
idle helm
And he can't attack a spino
barren zephyr
think about the smaller stuff
idle helm
He's not as fast as an allo
barren zephyr
but you said it would be
idle helm
He's fast
But not too fast
And yeah i say shit
And i never say he would be as fast as an allo in this discussion
You said it
barren zephyr
idle helm
And i answered "And why ?"
barren zephyr
and you compared it to allo speed
lunar crypt
bro just take the L and take another look through what yer suggesting, refine it and try again
idle helm
Hmmm interesting
barren zephyr
and just to state too. Saurophaganax is probably gonna be in some mod or something. In the official game roster? theres no more room for natural large theropod carnivores.
it's bloated as is
and like i said earlier. Acro exists
idle helm
Acro is not the same thing
barren zephyr
i mean it kinda is
idle helm
Cera is kinda allo too
lunar crypt
comparitively sized speedy bleeder, it tracks
idle helm
There gameplays are differents
barren zephyr
acro is a carcharodontosaur that tried to do what allo did.
except it's bigger
saurophag is literally just a big allosaur
lunar crypt
and we dont need allo 2 electric boogaloo: this time make it apex
idle helm
So what's the matter of magy ?
barren zephyr
magy has literally nothing to do with this
lunar crypt
acro does have something to do with it, so does allo, the sauro youre suggesting is the same niche as them
barren zephyr
^
lunar crypt
its fair to compare them, magy would just be food, we werent talking about that
idle helm
If saurophaganax isn't needed magy too
lunar crypt
elaborate
barren zephyr
ok now you're just reaching
we've explained it to you why saurophaganax wouldn't work in the official roster.
idle helm
Magy can't defend himself against a bigger carnivore than the cera
And can't run
He can't flee
barren zephyr
ok you can keep going on and on about this. you just dug yourself in a hole
idle helm
What are you talking about ?
mental sleet
Magyarosaurus is a special case.
You could argue, quite easily, that it seems like a very shit choice for a playable, yet it was voted on by the devs and was deemed necessary to fit a role in the game.
idle helm
And ?
mental sleet
Well, the animal was chosen by the devs for a purpose, the animal you proposed is a suggestion.
lunar crypt
- its supposed to be as fast as/faster than allo, meaning running is its defence, your sauro doesnt matter in this ecosystem
mental sleet
Comparing one with the other is meaningless.
idle helm
The devs don't have the parole of holy truth
mental sleet
What does that have to do with anything ?
lunar crypt
wrong channel mate
barren zephyr
@north lake go to offtopic my guy
mental sleet
Magy wasn't added randomly.
I don't know for certain what it's role is in the game, but I do know it wasn't for shits and giggles.
strange wave
magy is kind of a badass
idle helm
I just should stop talking I can't continue this way
barren zephyr
inner orbit
Magy
barren zephyr
isnt 3 apexs more than enough
safe galleon
vast wolf
step 1: remove bonebreak from everything in the game except rex. step 2: buff rexes hp stat. step 3: only allow one large herbivore on official servers and keep them from protecting the weaker ones. only allow one large herbivore on official servers and keep them from protecting the weaker ones?????
best way to break an ecosystem.
covert birch
Mfw poor bajada got size nerfed
Turanocertapps seems just like proto but with horns imo, wouldn't do much adding him especially since we got like 6 ceratopsids
vast wolf
@idle helm check pins in #general-feedback
just dont want the staff yelling at you for posting ideas for animals with no context as to why they add something.
inner orbit
I’ll make a well constructed recommendation for Yi Qi
covert birch
Ehh not a fan of yi qi
It's like the size of a juvi compy
Nothing that small really works well
Better sized gliders imo would be like balur bonodoc or changyuraptor
barren zephyr
microraptor
covert birch
Microraptor falls under the same boat as yi qi
Things like balur and changyu at least get about velo size
barren zephyr
oh ik
idle helm
Does the saurophaganax or others dinos will be added in like 10 years ?
Because nobody wants new dinos
I mean I understand
Now isn't a good time to ad dinos but we have to ad dinos one day
covert birch
That isnt the issue
idle helm
So just say "no" for your reasons are normal but we have to think of what The Isle will be in 5 years
covert birch
Certain dinos
Like saurophaganx you mentioned
Are practically clones of other animals
Others have other issues
idle helm
Deinocherus ?
covert birch
If omni systems go well deinocherius can wokr
idle helm
He is a clone of the theri
icy lion
nah
covert birch
Never knew theri was aquatic and a tank
icy lion
hes too chunky to be theri clone
covert birch
Cuz that's what deinocherius is
When suggesting animals you need to provide reason as to why to add them
Like how they are unique playstyle wise or mechanically
idle helm
And didn't knew allos were apexes
covert birch
Saurophaganx isnt an apex lol
random imp
Lol you can't write " I WanT TuRano AnD BaJAda BecAuSe TheY aRE CoOl AnD CuTE!!" You need to elaborate and suggest a unique niche and special mechanic/abilty for them.
covert birch
^
idle helm
Yes he was
covert birch
In this game it wouldnt be
Rex, acro, giga, spino all would put sauro down quite effectively
idle helm
You're talking about the biggest predator of his age
covert birch
His age keyword
idle helm
cobalt compass
Dilo was also the Apex of its time, that doesnt mean it will be in the isle
covert birch
There are animals of lots of ages ingsme
random imp
As 10 people already said, Sauro is just a clone with slightly different stats. It adds nothing to the game.
idle helm
I didn't say we should ad him now
covert birch
And I said never add it
random imp
Even in the future it's be a waste of time and resources
covert birch
Cuz once again,
Saurophaganx ain't a good addition
Literally allo but somewhat larger
cobalt compass
than please quit confuse us
covert birch
Which is already what acro is
random imp
It's just allo with a remodel.
idle helm
Path of Titans have a better communauty
covert birch
What
random imp
Nobody really cares tho
cobalt compass
maybe thats what the surface looks like
random imp
If you can't admit you are wrong, that's on you
cobalt compass
deep down every community has haters and fanboys
covert birch
Saying x has a better community
When people are pointing out flaws in your argument is quite the idiotic argument
random imp
🔝
idle helm
And a communauty that defend someone that sexually agressed someone and just follow what the other says seriously how can we do worse
random imp
Now you are just peeing outside the toilet man
covert birch
That moment when no legal thing was made whatsoever but people act like the accusations are fact
cobalt compass
true mature to spread rumors of someone who isnt there to defend himself
👏
covert birch
There is literally a pending investigation
Maybe wait till those trained for this do their job?
random imp
If you can't have a serious discussion it's not a community problem. We stated facts, you don't want to admit the loss, how are you blaming us lol
cobalt compass
maybe you should step back, relax and gather your next thoughts
idle helm
Seriously man rumors said by devellopers just choose if you trust them or not
covert birch
Or ya know
Wait till there is legal stuff completed so you can look at it full picture
cobalt compass
aye
random imp
? I'm lost, how are we arrived talking about Para when we started about Saurophaganax
cobalt compass
also, mind this is still #general-feedback-discussion and not #401470471750811669
random imp
Lets just amd this here
untold yew
I've barely been looking in here and I'm also confused
covert birch
Cuz he started "losing" the discussion
So he needed to defend his argument by saying isle bad cuz pedos
That's how we got here
Anyways
cobalt compass
@idle helm cut it now and return to feedback discussion or mods will be involed to put you in place
covert birch
Animals when suggested need to be explained how they are unique
random imp
I know Blue, i was just trynna to return to the original discussion
covert birch
For example how is bajada a unique addition
random imp
Don't want to upset the colored boys
covert birch
Whay can it do mechanically that sets it apart from other playables
Other then "punk sauropod"
cobalt compass
if you take its spike as a weapon either def/of, but doesnt seem effectively
random imp
So, to end this shitshow, next time add something more meaningful to your suggestion Ace. And try to be a lil openminded, we are here to have fun.
cobalt compass
i dont belive they're strong enough for fights, maybe display
idle helm
And just someone tell me he wanted to see the gorgosaurus in the game I just said "yes, if you want"
So just be gentle with people is not that hard and you don't see the point of add the saurophaganax in the game, I see it
This guy see the point of add the gorgosaurus in the game, I don't see it but that's not a reason to tell that there are no reason
random imp
Bajada 'd prob break his neck ramming something with the spines
cobalt compass
yep
random imp
Again, gorgosaurus adds nothing to the game that we don't already have
covert birch
They have albertosuarus already who is a slightly smaller gorgosaurus
cobalt compass
different people have also different opinions...
random imp
Adding a creature to the game costs 7k+ dollars,if you want to add this Alberto clone feel free to donate to the devs.
At least that was some time ago, i guess the price is a bit higher now due to the higher game quaity.
hasty radish
@vast wolf I've got an Rp server, where each herbivore has its own behavior when dealing with carnivores. If you're interested...
barren zephyr
@slate marlin I give you a ✅ on your suggestion
icy lion
@novel lotus already planned c: dont know when itll come though
novel lotus
Yay
barren zephyr
@novel lotus that is for Ovi to eat eggs
pale sorrel
Yes Dobby. I'm pretty sure Ovirator will get the ability, as that will most likely be an omnivore. Not sure if any other dinosaurs are planned to get the egg-eating feature as well.
rocky sable
im pretty sure any dinosaur could bust open an egg and eat it but i think oviraptor would get like help growing for eating eggs like how on a stream it was said you would eat your favorite thing like trex would eat trike and hadrosaurs and it would be happy so it grew easier so oviraptor im thing would eat hatchling and eggs to grow faster (also stuff like protoceratops and velociraptor since they lived in the same enviroment)
opal shoal
theris ik are omnis but I don't know if they will eat eggs as I don't think they are like that
rocky sable
im pretty sure therizinosaurus would eat like carnion and eggs like most omnivores who were mainly herbivores , but deinochirus would actually seek out stuff like fish to hunt
opal shoal
I've been also trying to figure out where we get the merch cause I would love a shirt myself when I have the money
and ik this is feedback discussion but Idk where to look XD
novel lotus
Hmmm yeah, tho I’m not sure how fun it would be to play because terror birds would kind of just be a feather Utah raptor
languid crown
@novel lotus no Cenozoic creatures
novel lotus
@languid crown Oh how about titanaboa, because I heard devs say something about that
languid crown
titanaboa is the exception, but thats very fare off
novel lotus
Okay
tepid gate
Saurophaganax wouldn't be even close to an apex in this game, the animal is basically like 4t in weight and is dwarfed even by an Acro(which is already completely redundant and should be yeeted off the roster). One advantage that Acro at least has over Saurophaganax is that it's more distinct looking to everything else in the game, which is still in my opinion not enough of a difference to keep the discount Giga in the roster.
The only visual difference between Saurophaganax and Allosaurus would be the size and anything that comes from the creative license of the concept artists and modellers. In other words: technically if you were to introduce Sauro to the game it would just be an Allosaurus that has a longer growth time and grows larger than the normal Allo. I guess you could make a case for replacing Allosaurus with Saurophaganax if anything but adding them both is just redunant.
Also the only way in which Gorgosaurus gets added is if they decide to rename "Albertosaurus" to "Gorgosaurus" because these two are almost exactly the same.
RegardingTheri and Deinocheirus, the two look nothing alike, are in different size categories and should have just completely different roles in the ecosystem. Deinocheirus is an apex sized animal, Theri is at most a pseudo-apex.
inner orbit
Yes
Sauro only has a few slight differences between allo which aren’t enough to make a good addition
tepid gate
Exactly and I'm saying this despite the fact that I really like Saurophaganax as an animal.
inner orbit
Same here
sonic cloud
I like Acro tbh
It’s redundant
But would make a far better alt skin for Giga then carch
tepid gate
I agree that it would make a good alt skin
sonic cloud
I mean, Carch is just a headswapped Giga
tepid gate
I think it should be added as that along with Carch
sonic cloud
Half the time you wouldn’t even notice the difference
tepid gate
It's really hard to say tbh we don't have any postcranial skeleton of the adult carcharodontosaurus
sonic cloud
Acro at least has a funky ridge to make having it as an alt-skin actually worth it
tepid gate
There's only the subadult found by Ernst Stromer in the 30s to my knowledge
The adult found in the 90's is just a head so that allows for a bit of creative license I suppose
sonic cloud
Ehh
tepid gate
The reconstruction of this animal I believe is just based(at least partially) on Giga itself to a large extent that's why its general build is so similar
tepid gate
I'd just make it different by making it more gracile and leaner which was I think the general restoration of the animal based on the subadult iirc.
@opal shoal This idea of stat and size differences between the sexes of each dinosaur has been suggested multiple times now, it's overall not a good idea if you think about it due to a couple of reasons:
A. It's not accurate to our knowledge about the non-avian dinosaurs. We simply do not have any concrete evidence that would for the most part suggest that there was any specific sexual dimorphism that resulted in one sex being larger in any of those animals.
B. It would make the game much, much harder to balance. If you tinker with the stats of the same dinosaurs and make them different based on their sex then you run a risk of having one sex be better than the other. The roster of this game is already going to be an absolute nightmare to balance and this idea basically doubles the amount of playables that have to be balanced against one another and taken into account.
opal shoal
fine or whatever... not to be rude but I just want to see them add a little more to the dimorphism I just can't place my finger on what though... maybe give more colors to the males or add more to the character customizations as again i wouldn't know what to do other than let us personalize them a bit more and it doesn't have to be scientific cause half of what they're doing isn't based on realistic scientific fact anyways
tepid gate
Sure, the accuracy is the lesser of the two issues, the balance one is far more important out of the two. And I sort of agree that perhaps some larger differences would be nice, I just don't think there should be differences to how the animals are played and how they actually perform in the game since that can make one sex way too good or just outright terrible and not viable.
ashen elm
The only aesthetic differences that I think can work for sexual dimorphism would be display features.
Dewlaps, Bristles/Quills, Feathers, Different Patterns, etc... ala the Para crest.
hasty radish
@tepid gate @inner orbit @ashen elm @opal shoal compared to the rex: apparently the females would be much larger compared to the rex because they need a lot of minerals to make eggs. but this is like all other paleontological hypotheses. we can't refer to this 100%.
and in modern animals, a strong sexual dimorphism can be observed in groups, whereas in solitary animals the dimorphism is less important. for example, in cats, it is very difficult to differentiate between them.
So I can suggest that sexual dimorphism could be created if a group creates it, for example.🤷♀️
tepid gate
@hasty radish As it is right now we don't have any proof of T.rex females being larger than males, we have only one skeleton that's confirmed to be a female and it's not even a fully grown specimen. What you mentioned is indeed one of the hypotheses, another one was circulated back in the days to explain the differences between the so called "robust" and "gracile" morphs of the Tyrannosaurus it was also popularised by the "Walking with Dinosaurs" series. I just think that for the sake of the game being playable and balanced properly the differences should be limited to the look of the dinosaurs without covering the size and stats or abilities of them, because these would realistically split every animal into two different, separate playable entities which I really don't think should be the case with an already large roster.
inner orbit
I agree aken
hasty radish
I couldn't agree more.
but I'm wondering if we could do a dimorphism(in the game) in some dino's, especially carnivores for my par. Because we don't know if some carnivorous dino lived in groups or not. And so to let the fact of creating a dimorphism free if a group of dino came to create it. For example to be able to increase its color pigments etc...
It's just a thought.
inner orbit
Some likely did
severe sequoia
That’s a hard no
jade schooner
what Aliens said
severe sequoia
Sub-reddit moderators deserve no attention or recognition until they keep their ((community)) from speed running bans.
frail sigil
@thorny crag they aren't official. The subreddit is a community run thing, they have nothing to do with the official discord or game really
icy lion
when the official reddit is in use? maybe but the current reddit isnt even an isle reddit anymore
thorny crag
but still part of the community
severe sequoia
A community that allows brigading. They don’t seem very helpful to me.
Just my 2 cents though
What would I know
frail sigil
We don't have an official one set up yet
thorny crag
i can still suggest that for the future I mean they are planning to make one I thought
frail sigil
Most likely the mods there will be the mods here when it happens
thorny crag
oh ok
frail sigil
Though we'll figure that out when it comes
thorny crag
just saying it's kinda nice to have everyone present in the discord
just for communication
frail sigil
I'm sure they will be when it happens
thorny crag
k
inner orbit
The official reddit is unused
icy lion
@latent pelican already planned, every dino will be able to fish but some will be better than others (including spino and sucho)
and picking up food is planned/partially added with corpse dragging
latent pelican
mighty girder
@opal shoal The male dinosaurs already get more colors and more detailed models, they dont need more. Adding stats / sizes just makes it so people will choose the gender that works best in fights
inner orbit
I like the dimorphism they’re working on