or the next update?
#general-feedback-discussion
mental flower
white spruce
No matter how much of the majority of criticism is awful, you still shouldn't knowingly prevent calm criticisms. Especially when you're dealing with devs who are this unwilling to actually recognize when they were in the wrong.
cobalt compass
^ update
mental flower
Ok good good.
cobalt compass
in which case where they wrong, please name one. maybe i just overread them
languid crown
one happened today/yesterday
cobalt compass
pesky?
white spruce
I'd argue that pesky is a very good example, but others have occurred
mental flower
Being right in a discussion is not merit to be a dick.
But i feel like we are digressing
this is suggestion chat. not dev scrutiny chat.
white spruce
It's also a feedback chat
white spruce
This is my feedback on their behavior towards criticism
mental flower
This discord managment is Derp Derps ;p;
cobalt compass
yep, i dont see any wrong with a calm discussion
white spruce
Really doesn't matter, I don't think they actually read this chat
mental flower
The cannels and category's, the rules.... its like a road map made with 8 different languages for a place that does not exist
languid crown
paradym does but he already knows all this, Dondi neither reads this chat or cares about others opinions too much
once he settles his mind, few can change it
cobalt compass
just for my own information
how old are you and where do you work?
im 32 and manager in retail
mental flower
Who?
cobalt compass
herp
mental flower
Thats like
kinda personal idk if that like ok to ask or not. (not that i care) but devs mods may not.
I got banned from a server for asking a persons age one time
im like WUT
white spruce
I'm not personally comfortable with saying, but I'd like to know what managing retail has to do with it
cobalt compass
see, that is maybe the point. ppl have different stages of expirience with other ppl
white spruce
do you regularly quash reasonable discourse?
cobalt compass
thats the point, i dont
white spruce
And that's my issue with the devs: I think they do
cobalt compass
ppl how work actively with other ppl can respond 'better' to such critism
paradym was in retail as he said
mental flower
My time in retail made me hate the human race.
white spruce
Pretty sure The Isle has a PR guy
cobalt compass
@mental flower that too
white spruce
But it didn't always
random imp
@mental flower first of all, chill the fuck out. second: the thing you suggested 'd bring only disconfort playing a certain animal. the only things that could work different for each animal without ruining the gameplay are just the smell range and the nightvision. and no @vestal hound , iirc devs even want to remove the tab page. you should not be able to see who is in the server and what creature they are playing.
white spruce
well, actually, punch would be PR too
random imp
talking about me? lol
cobalt compass
o.O?
random imp
oh boy...
languid crown
You must have low tolerance levels if you block someone for that lol
cobalt compass
thats a common issue today
mental flower
Well if someone has to "put me in my place" before engaging in conversation i tend to care very little about his opinion.
random imp
is funny to see al these new people arriving into the discord tho
like this guy lol
does he realize that i can read what he's writing?
random imp
anyway dude i did not attack you. i just told you to cool off and gave my feedback on your suggestion. easy, without losing your butt over a discord server.
mental flower
You told me to calm the fuck down like I was mad or on a tangent
Are you aware you come across as incredibly hostile the way you communicate
I don't really care, and it may be a misunderstanding on my part
random imp
people here know that i'm a bit rough on how i answer. if you are new, well welcome to the islecord.
mental flower
Ok well nice to meet you.
My generation synopsis of you is your opinions tend to lean strongly on the negative side of things. And I'm a very optimistic personality type so there's probably where the disconnect is.
Paw is an adorable name.
gritty siren
I have a question and a suggestion about the game in future terms. will there be first person view? i think it would be a neat option. why i think so? i am a miniquad flyer (drone but i dont like the word drone because i dont fly a quadcoptor thats controlled via phone. i fly 100+ mph racing ones) and i have a camera setup thatsends nearly live feed to my goggles. my goggles have a mini hdmi inport that will allow me to play certain first person games or even shows and movies through the goggles. just like vr in a way (minus headtracking) thats more immersive feeling. having the bouncing and motion of the creature youre playing affect how you see and such. i think it would be neat as hell!
mental flower
Aaaand paw stopped typing.
tired arch
lol dont mind me im just watching
random imp
i answered you on #401464048610312195
I have a question and a suggestion about the game in future terms. will there be first person view? i think it would be a neat option. why i think so? i am a miniquad flyer (drone but i dont like the word drone because i dont fly a quadcoptor thats controlled via phone. i fly 100+ mph racing ones) and i have a camera setup thatsends nearly live feed to my goggles. my goggles have a mini hdmi inport that will allow me to play certain first person games or even shows and movies through the goggles. just like vr in a way (minus headtracking) thats more immersive feeling. having the bouncing and motion of the creature youre playing affect how you see and such. i think it would be neat as hell!
@gritty siren
no 1 person for animals but for humans iirc
mental flower
First person would be awesome, very similar to what I was asking about in regards to various fov for different Dino's
gritty siren
yeah but i want a mod to see, someone who is in good touch with developement to think about it
random imp
then the best place to post it is in feedback
but is a question that was asked already 2000 times
indigo sun
Dondi's said no to first person for dinosaurs on a stream
random imp
so the answer is pretty well known
gritty siren
last time many months ago i was told after posting there, that my p[osts have to come here
indigo sun
wish i could tell you which one but a lot of his streams ended up deleted n shit
random imp
sadly
gritty siren
man hes gonna miss out on even more excitement from his fan base with this fpv option
mental flower
I have no desire to watch old streams. Maybe he should make some sort of text Google drive file with all his proclamations
gritty siren
i would even pay for something like that
vestal hound
Hm I agree on not seeing the people who are in the server but I like the Idea of knowing if possible packmates are on so I can go look for them
random imp
they already exist
pinged in general i think
Hm I agree on not seeing the people who are in the server but I like the Idea of knowing if possible packmates are on so I can go look for them
@vestal hound but that'd bring a lot of issues and possible abuse
covert birch
I like the idea of first person cuz if ya doin an ambush from the trees your dino comes out before ya camera does, which can fuck over an ambush
Should at least have like a way to move the cameras position on the body while still being third person
random imp
maybe not fpv, but move the camera on the head, yhea
gritty siren
personally believe most games should have both options for you to choose and use
random imp
that's be useful now that you put it that way Blue
random imp
gritty siren
my suggestion was equally valid
random imp
i'm a relatively chill guy
my suggestion was equally valid
@gritty siren write it down on #general-feedback
mental flower
I agree with ya @gritty siren , we can be ignored by the devs together grabs Duzos Hand
gritty siren
i can guarantee the server walking with dinos would all be using it
random imp
devs check out the channel for the most interesting suggestions and feedbacks
gritty siren
ill try my luck.
indigo sun
"/s" exists though its not really punctuation more of just a little thing to put at the end of a message
mental flower
WOOOT
vestal hound
@random imp what possible ways of abuse? I can't think of any at the top of my head
barren zephyr
Joking about immature things like that will get you put on read-only or banned @mental flower.
random imp
@random imp what possible ways of abuse? I can't think of any at the top of my head
@vestal hound idk either to be honest, but people have a sick mind and always find a way to ruin other's experience
iirc it was a thing asked frequently and devs said no for the same reason
vestal hound
Oh ok I didn't know that it was asked before and rejected
Sadly people always find a way
vestal hound
I kinda like that it forces people to make noise
nowadays everyone uses voicecom and no animal calls
random imp
groups won't even be in evrima
for what i understood they want a system that allow you to invite "manually" a player, like standing near him and pressing some call buttons
and i find it much more interesting, instead of inviting players from across the hole map
pulsar pivot
I would also like to be able to have some form of group. Might be easier when we have skins so we will be able to see who is who. But when fighting for territory will be horrible if we cant see who is who x)
random imp
lol @fast escarp i guess not being easy to achieve the CC role is exactly what the devs want. if every single person with 50 followers 'd be accepted to be a Content creator we'd all be, and that makes little to no sense. 500 followers is not that much anyway, i have 450 on instagram for example, but that does not make me a CC. You have to earn your way through the jungle which is the world of artists. and in this case your commitment will be rewarded with the role of CC.
i mean, every big name in this comunity has started small and achieved great things.
why there should be a special treatment for today's smaller artists? passion will always be rewarded sooner or later.
vestal rune
if the only requirement is to make videos on the isle, you know how many psuedo content creators would pop up just to get exclusive access to evrima?
random imp
i feel like 4 attack are redundant as long as the attacks makes the creature stand out.
vestal hound
currently it doesn't look like it does, with one shared attack being bite the utah only has pounce. Maybe it is badly balanced atm and feels that way because of that. Streamers don't seem to use pounce at all
random imp
did you play EVRIMA?
warm belfry
you cant pounce til full adult
@feral adder well that's kinda stupid imo
feral adder
I can see why you would think that, seeing as how tenos can kick and tail slam as juvis iirc
vestal rune
ye I hope young utahs will be able to pounce, that seems like a silly thing to remove
feral adder
maybe young adult?
i agree
i kinda just skimmed the streams last night so i may be wrong
vestal hound
Salva no ofc I did not play it yet, but I have watched a lot of streams and listened to streamers. The pounce seems kinda underwhelming atm, specially when utah is restricted till full adult
They could give juvies a jump attack that doesn't attach them till they are older
but give them more than one attack
random imp
what kinda of attack for example?
vestal rune
I say just give the juvie utahs a pounce
tropic ingot
A juvi utah wouldn't be out hunting though, it'd be relying on its parents to feed it
vestal rune
ye maybe after you grow out abit, juvie utah should probably more of a scavenger
random imp
and it'd be too weak to latch onto something
vestal rune
no shade, juvies are self-sufficient
they should be able to survive just fine on their own
hatchlings are the ones who have to rely on their parents
vestal hound
just do that cosovary? jump kick thing for juvies, they "learn" to attach later
tropic ingot
Depends if you're talking game mechanics or realism mechanics. I don't think juvis should pounce. Subadults maybe, because they're learning to hunt
vestal rune
ye I imagine as a juvie you'd mostly be trying to be sneaky and unseen, sneaking bites of food and all that, so I do agree that juvie maybe shouldn't have pounce
but once you get to the size where you'd want to be killing things, you should be able to pounce
random imp
just do that cosovary? jump kick thing for juvies, they "learn" to attach later
@vestal hound a kick with the claw, that's be a good idea
wirte it in your suggestion
vestal hound
its just that when I see juvies fight in the streams it looks almost like legacy fighting
will do salva
paper oriole
A medium sized sauropod down the line would be nice, but Limaysaurus looks kinda naked, like it would just be a weaker camara and free giga food. There are some more unique options in that size range i think
Ampelosaurus- has spiked armour
Bajadasaurus- bigger amargasaurus
Spinophorosaurus- thagomizer tail
Agustinia- bony armour down back
vast wolf
camara is a pretty mid sized sauropod
vestal rune
I still think a great playable sauropod to add would be bronto
vast wolf
fuck bronto use apato or some other less boring diplodocid.
australodocus is still great.
paper oriole
I hope some day we can get a good sauropod in each tier so magy can be excused
vast wolf
magy-low tier trash. camara-respectable apex tier sauropod. brachi-titan thats just beautiful and majestic.
paper oriole
The only thing that can save magy is a nigersaurus skin
Just for the meme factor
I hope we get at least one ‘funky’ sauropod, like a spiked one or something
vast wolf
the best diplodocid of the jurassic.
paper oriole
Would be a waste to only use the smooth bois when we could also have this paired with camara
Or the stego wannabe sauropod
vast wolf
i really only see ampelo being a camma skin.
paper oriole
I guess it could, though it'd be sad to see the spiked armour only being a visual feature
covert birch
Good med sauro can be amarga
Buggers like 6 ton iirc and i guess they can shape the spikes in a manner that doesnt make it too ineffective for self defense
paper oriole
Amarga or baja would be cool, either one would be satisfactory
covert birch
Nah but one of these two can actually work well
Just personally feel amarga's neck spikes wouldnt be as well off for defense compared to like bajada
paper oriole
Some minor tweaks to their design wouldnt hurt to make the neck spines more weaponized
This guy is neat too, though his back spines are speculative iirc
drifting umbra
Maybe a damage reflection trait against large predators?
Since Apex’s would likely bite from above and cause self harm.
paper oriole
Yeah reflective damage would work well for many herbis
It would work for baja, ampelo, agust, amarga, if any of them made it in
drifting umbra
And as a penalty for attacking a trike from the front.
paper oriole
Yeah i really hope thats a thing
drifting umbra
Devs probably don’t even check this channel tho
paper oriole
Yeah unlikely that they do unfortunately, they seem to just do their own thing
covert birch
Locational damage can prolly play into that well
if ya attack X spot on the body ya fucked
paper oriole
Imagine an allo trying to chomp down on an amarga neck and just getting porcupined lol
Would be great
random imp
lol
drifting umbra
It would be nice to see certain carnivore have unique dynamics depending on what they are hunting.
mighty girder
@minor dome I dont think it'd help curb it but its def a good idea
minor dome
there gonna be so many people expecting all dinos and a complete game or something
elfin pagoda
Hi guys!
I just posted something on the feedback channel about the "ghosts" we can see when sprinting or moving around in EVRIMA. I was wondering if you guys noticed and what you thought about it?
elfin pagoda
It's not what I mean. What do you think about that effect?
minor dome
looks cool
austere spruce
i havent noticed. i'd have to really look. have a pic?
vestal rune
ye I haven't seen any such thing, do you have a clip?
elfin pagoda
Don't have a pic, just noticed the effect on 2B2V's video. I can take a screenshot if you want, but it's most effective to see it in movement.
vestal rune
can you give the video and time stamp?
covert birch
yea personally havent noticed these "ghosts" either
elfin pagoda
Sure, I'll look for a good clip and tell you.
vestal rune
oh I think I see what you mean
I don't think it's part of the game, it's something with his recording
austere spruce
oh, yeah
elfin pagoda
Aah! I didn't think about that x)
austere spruce
that's not the game, pretty sure
elfin pagoda
Okay! Well we'll get the confirmation tomorrow I guess. I thought it was pretty weird they added that, it's like an anime thing kind of x)
Well then, thanks for your enlightenment! :D
covert birch
1 call and seeing name tags is a bad idea as some carnivores will hunt their own species, and this feature gives off another’s position very easily
Personally love this thing, but it should be removed from like the base thing and only implemented into a group system
so like nobody sees names n such similar to now when outa groups, and when in groups you can only see the name when the person does the call
makes hunting need to be more coordinated and makes discord less reliable since ya cant just say 8 X near me lets get em and youll actually have to call n such
covert birch
thats the idea
random imp
is not that useful, you need to be quiet
covert birch
I mean, ya only need to start doing the 1 call stuff when the hunt actually starts
the rest can be f calls
random imp
mmmh
makes sense
you just 1 call to see the position of the other members then attack
not bad
covert birch
I like hte idea of like a pack of utahs chasing a tenonto through the forest, and some utahs lost em then one of the utah while chasing outa it 1 calls and the rest follow
elfin pagoda
What about both but with different range? Like, when you're in a hunt, packmates should be at close range so F calls can do the job, but when they're too far they have to 1 call?
vestal rune
I think over very short distances(like right next to each other) nametags should always be visible, over slightly longer but still short distance you have to F call to see each other, and over long distances up to a limit you broadcast
elfin pagoda
Even better.
covert birch
that can work
random imp
good idea
vestal rune
hell maybe the tapped 1 call and the held 1 call could have different volumes and also different ranges
random imp
so you have to actually learn when to use each call
elfin pagoda
To make it a group feature only is a good idea, we don't want to see everyone's tag on our screen.
vestal rune
ye it definetly should be group only
elfin pagoda
hell maybe the tapped 1 call and the held 1 call could have different volumes and also different ranges
@vestal rune I'm not sure about this one though, but it's interesting and could be worth a try!
barren zephyr
Is it me or the latest feedback shows some anger towards the devs regarding their community management skills?
random imp
there are a ton of new people, is normal to have some hot head
we just need to be patient
barren zephyr
Actually OG people are complaining about them...
elfin pagoda
Do they really though?
barren zephyr
I'm not aware but i assume that something happened for some to express themselves?
vestal rune
and also ever since para came the developer's community management skills have increased greatly
random imp
they ban the ones who are not respectful or can't be reasoned with
para is a great guy, i don't know how can he be so calm with dumbasses
vestal rune
I think it's the whole pesky situation, alot of assholes are trying to turn the situation into "the developers can't take any form of criticism and are basically Jao" instead of "A misunderstanding thanks to a bunch of flame baiters"
barren zephyr
Its his job....
random imp
i know, but still he has great self control lol
elfin pagoda
From what I've heard on videos and streams, they just don't want to bother with people talking shit and not respecting rules or people.
random imp
I think it's the whole pesky situation, alot of assholes are trying to turn the situation into "the developers can't take any form of criticism and are basically Jao" instead of "A misunderstanding thanks to a bunch of flame baiters"
@vestal rune not only, this thing is far older
barren zephyr
The world is full of dumbasses and if you want to deal with public you need a tough shin
vestal rune
oh ye, but the older stuff mostly originated on reddit
for some reason reddit used to be a platform to privately make up fake lies in an attempt to hate on the devs
random imp
the thing is, complaining and criticize with maturity is a thing, spitting acid over everything and complaining about stuff and not coming to reason is another
and some people can't tell the difference
random imp
exactly, but people can't so they started this hole fight against the devs
barren zephyr
Ive heard some stuff being said, specially on dondi streams lol i mean, to each their own, the guy is kinda comical and all but some people might take it personal to what he says..the guy literally roasts the community lol
random imp
i hope when things are settled with evrima and the next updates these bad, things will come to an end
vestal rune
ye but everyone in the community know it's mostly a joke
dude when evrima comes out there's gonna be a wave of people complaining about how there's only 2 dinos
can't wait
random imp
Dondi roasts everybody, there is no reason to take it personally.
white spruce
Pesky's situation is fucked
random imp
people are already complaining, but we just need to not listen to them too much.
barren zephyr
It must be though dealing with this amount of people man...honestly i dont envy them lol
random imp
i'd have lost my shit a milion time if i had to be a dev of this game
vestal rune
tfw the hardest job on the dev team is dealing with the community
ebon tiger
given the usual shit that pops up, i wager the next drama will be something like "devs don't know shit about game dev because there's less content after an "update"" or something equally braindead
vestal rune
ye that'll totally happen
I don't understand why so many people have a hater boner over this game, did dondi insult their mum or something?
ebon tiger
we've already had people accuse Bryan of being "a shit animator" because of some animation choices he made
barren zephyr
I mean...theres stuff on the new update that to me are unacceptable, but im not gonna roast their work, i'll just give my view and move on on a peaceful way
random imp
yhea, i read the feedback too
ebon tiger
so i'd not be surprised at all if those same people extend that opinion to the other devs
elfin pagoda
I mean...theres stuff on the new update that to me are unacceptable, but im not gonna roast their work, i'll just give my view and move on on a peaceful way
@barren zephyr Like what for example? I'm curious.
random imp
that was heartbreaking, Bryan is such a great guy
ebon tiger
not going to lie, but i don't like all of Bryan's choices, but in the end, his work is still good, and he's an over-all nice guy
random imp
me neither tbh, like the weightless creatures, but still i don't go around criticizing his work when i have 0 experience in game developing
vestal rune
well you should still criticise it if you think the quality isn't good enough
white spruce
You don't need experience to criticize something
ebon tiger
i never see the weightless look, myself, but some of the animations seem to go against anatomy, like the weird biped run for Ptera's take-off
random imp
i write it wrong, i mean attack him, of course i criticize and speak my mind
barren zephyr
Old core mechanics that should be in the game, nightvision, night\day cycle, bleed, collision is wonky...and to me theres no reason for old stuff not to be in the new stuff, it doesnt make sense at all. But like i said...i moved on to other stuff.
white spruce
if you go to a top restaurant and the chef serves you a turd, you don't need to be a top chef to know that's not ok
elfin pagoda
Old core mechanics that should be in the game, nightvision, night\day cycle, bleed, collision is wonky...and to me theres no reason for old stuff not to be in the new stuff, it doesnt make sense at all. But like i said...i moved on to other stuff.
@barren zephyr Oh yeah I see. Things that kinda make the update feel less complete and playable than legacy.
barren zephyr
Your entitled to your own opinion and people should respect that...devs or not
white spruce
barren zephyr
@elfin pagoda yup...to me personaly Legacy with all the probs it has its better, period. Still, i do think theres alot of great stuff on the new update like the scent mechanic, absolutely marvelous
vestal rune
personally heavily dislike legacy's AI, I think just the removal of them is gonna make evrima better
barren zephyr
I honestly expected more...way more...but oh well
random imp
i've preferred for them to take some more months, but community was loosing its mind
i can't write
elfin pagoda
@elfin pagoda yup...to me personaly Legacy with all the probs it has its better, period. Still, i do think theres alot of great stuff on the new update like the scent mechanic, absolutely marvelous
@barren zephyr I get you. It's a good thing we'll still be able to play legacy while EVRIMA gets updated. Of course, I'll be happy to put my hands on EVRIMA tomorrow but I also feel I'll see everything there is too see gameplay-wise quite quickly.
white spruce
If they released it a few months later it would still have released barebones
They're adding systems piecemeal so that any bugs that show up have an easily identifiable cause
elfin pagoda
I don't have much to say about legacy's AI but am really curious to see how it pans out in EVRIMA with no AI at the start.
vestal rune
keep in mind, the general community having access to the recode will speed up development
random imp
right
vestal rune
because we'll be able to find bugs way faster
random imp
we'll just murder each other
vestal rune
angmare it'll pan out great, it'll actually be hard to survive as a carnivore
random imp
just like it was back in the days, when 4 dinos were available
white spruce
4 dinos?
vestal rune
I lowkey miss AIless thenyaw
elfin pagoda
It didn't even seem that hard on the different streams I've seen.
white spruce
game released with 6 dinos
barren zephyr
Honestly brother i have the isle uninstalled for almost 2year because of the state of legacy...i'll try the new update obviously but prob after a week or so i'll get bored and uninstall it again..i mean, ngl its not good enough in my eyes so i prefer to wait a bit longer for more stuff to be added including some old features.
white spruce
No, the game released with dinos
the tech demo had dinos in it
a galli herd, I believe
random imp
i'm talking about the very first release
elfin pagoda
I mean, it will be a challenge, but I think 50 players is enough to be able to survive without being frustrated because of the lack of food.
white spruce
I also believe you were able to turn into dinos by pressing the number keys
bruh, I knew what you were talking about
covert birch
the great part is that the video had body carrying
random imp
lol
white spruce
You were objectively wrong
prisma lily
that's such good news! thank you so very much, i play with multiple people who have colorblindness and have expressed how some gameplay aspects were a bit awkward for them, i'm so glad to see that feature being realized.
white spruce
there were dinos in the tech demo
covert birch
I hope they also make the colors of the chat n shit customizable
elfin pagoda
that's such good news! thank you so very much, i play with multiple people who have colorblindness and have expressed how some gameplay aspects were a bit awkward for them, i'm so glad to see that feature being realized.
@prisma lily That was a good point we don't always think about!
random imp
chill herp, we r all friends here 🙂
valid zephyr
barren zephyr
very epic
oak heath
glad dirge
Would also be pretty darn scary
potent ruin
Yo is feedback the new suggestions channel?
paper oriole
Over packing will be combated by the difficulty of keeping a large pack/herd fed
And ya it is
indigo sun
@woven horizon pretty sure it's getting a jump, just wont be crazy utah height
woven horizon
Hurng, dilo would probably jump higher than a uta- God no
kind agate
given its hips aren't built to jump like that, it's a blessing we're getting a jump in the first place
woven horizon
Yeah, but so many people are going to think otherwise
vestal rune
ye you can tell by just looking at the 2 dinosaurs, utah is significantly more springy than dilo
jade schooner
@barren zephyr we already have Parasaurolophus and possibly Shantungosaurus
strange wave
iguanodon para and shant can coexist
make para extremely migratory, iguanodon an extremely pissy just everywhere boi and make shant moose
honest sparrow
Iggy has a big enough size difference
It can even coexist with shant
They eat similar foods, but shant is far tankier and iggy relies on grappling
barren zephyr
and i dont care iguanadon is my fav dino also we all ready have cama no point of maggy?
indigo sun
well i half agree but cama isnt the reason theres not much of a point in magy. Theres such a huge difference there they can be considered two entirely different niches, even if theyre both sauropods
But bork and pteranodon did provide some good examples for how iguanodon can manage to be different from the two other animals listed, its honestly not a bad idea to have iguanodon
The devs are convinced iguanodon is just maia with beefier arms when maia's a bitch and should run and iggy should be stickin around and fighting
barren zephyr
there is no reason for magy
there is no need for magy tho
its no use to a herd it will just be a meat shield to the herd
iquanadon would be faster
but weeker
weaker
slate owl
barren zephyr
tomorrow
honest sparrow
what timezone
for americans it's the 18th
what timezone
for americans it's the 18th
covert birch
iquanadon would be faster
but weeker
How tf is iguanodon who is about the size of allo (at least usin that size in ya suggestion)
Be both faster and weaker then a cerato sized sauropod
scenic sapphire
I'm gonna be real, most of the critique of Magy is just people wanting a different dinosaur. Most
covert birch
What
Most of the magy critique is pointing out issues of magy which it has a few
Then them saying X other sauropod which isnt giant lacks those issues
scenic sapphire
Ime it's mostly people saying that "X sauropod would be better" and then we find out it's a sauropod that they personally enjoy
criticisms of Magy based on what we actually know are fine
covert birch
They say X sauropod would be better b/c magy has A, B, and C issues
scenic sapphire
some do
covert birch
most do
scenic sapphire
🤷♀️
Either way, I'm making no criticisms personally until we get to play it
and see how it interacts with other things
covert birch
Its just the discussion is so commonly shut down by
"have faith in the devs they cant do it wrong"
that the other side generally just backs off or shitposts since no discussion can be made
scenic sapphire
I don't think they can't do any wrong, tbh, but I don't really want to criticize something I haven't touched yet
covert birch
I personally criticize something based on the info we got
And personally havent seen much good pushing for magy
Other than "it likely outruns allo" which based on the run anims side by side, nah it dont
scenic sapphire
I will say idk how it's supposed to be faster than an Allo
based off the way the run looks but that's about it
eternal owl
I thought they said the way the Magy Vs Allo scene goes is that the allo has horrible stam, so a Magy just needs to avoid it til it runs out of stam.
covert birch
They never said that
eternal owl
Really? Ok.
last meadow
for the magy vs allo debate it's only been said magy is gonna be a CC (crowd control) type class, where it temporarily paralyzes it's chaser to run off and hide afaik
covert birch
nope, they didnt say that either
The concept art i guess had it tho
All we know of the magy vs allo scenario directly from devs is
"Magy likely will outrun allo"
And "Magy is athletic/bison sized"
last meadow
Wasnt that what kissen said tho?
covert birch
What i just said is what kissen said
Idr kissen saying magy was a CC class
I remember her saying its sauropod tenonto tho
last meadow
oh yea im misremembering, kissen said magy would need to use its skill to survive against an allo, which from the concept art seemed like CC to me, so not confirmed
covert birch
But in the end, there arent many ways of making magy viable without making it look ridiculous
That whole practically old dryo with shoves idea thrown around works fine imo
Slightly slower than its preds but outstams and outmenuvres them
and uses shoves to help escape grapple
languid crown
the no collision thing is a big bummer, if possible make the makeshift collision boxes bigger, right now it looks like legacy combat
covert birch
there is collision, sadly it only encompasses the midsection of the body n lacks the head n tail
What dmIV was talkin bout in the new devlog is prolly what caused this loss of collision
barren zephyr
I agree griz, elongate the box and test it like that for a while if you have to, they could even just disable the intended collision when moving.. the problems seem to arise when the two colliding animals are both moving.
Just hope tails can still collide with trees/terrain at least!
ashen elm
I am sad about the tail collision, it looked so nice. Maybe one day?
barren zephyr
its first release it will come soon
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr read the dev blog, it won’t they had to compromise
i know i said
it will come later on
last meadow
Eh i wouldnt say it will come after evrima, its more of a might
Since according to adam they physics couldnt replicate accurately and caused alot of server jitter
which while disappointing, is understandable from a gameplay perspective ig
indigo sun
@warm knoll planned already
indigo sun
No worries, now you know. If you ever wonder about anything that might be planned, feel free to ask in Isle discussion
warm knoll
Ok.
languid crown
you will get it in like 17hrs
arctic hare
Hopefully they'll figure out some sort of work around to get that sort of collision back in the future
I can appreciate the minimal collision that's in now instead of no collision at all
languid crown
you already get slowed down in water
random imp
not slowed down actually, but if the water is too high you can't run
barren zephyr
will tail colision not be a thing anymore?
rugged condor
no it causes rubber banding
random imp
they'll find a system to enable collisions without destroying the server
pale sorrel
Thanks, BigBang! 💙
indigo sun
@acoustic adder
"ParadymShift #TeamFoszorYesterday at 4:01 PM
Any news about GeForce?
We have a conference call, with them next weekish"
acoustic adder
random imp
@tepid dune it'd be much easier if people instead of asking the same questions 200 times 'd just go on #announcements. there is everything important there, no need for another channel with the same exact informations. the fact is that people are lazy or simply stupid and can't scroll up looking for the information themselves.
tepid dune
Announcements doesn't has a great majority kind of information people often ask, people are dumb and should look at it more often? yes. it asnwer everything people tireless asks again and again? no.
left nacelle
@tepid dune What have people been asking about that isn't in announcements?
indigo sun
@mild patrol That'd kinda fuck up stealth altogether and it would suck ass for animals that have to hide more than run
left nacelle
Yeah. Imagine sneaking up an on animal and they instantly smells you in the bushes and charges at you
tepid dune
@left nacelle how many dinos will be playable at evrima? why evrima lacks mechanics? where's bleed? when deino and ptera will come? when apexes will come? what are the devs doing next? why -insert mechanic here- is not on evrima? why only CC have evrima? why the map inst finished? where's AI? where's fish? and so on. Things like that are only explained by devs streams (mostly dondi ones) or little bits scattered on isle discussion that are covered on Ravenous and other CCs videos.
indigo sun
Half those questions can be solved in the roadmap
cobalt compass
@forest grove most of your points were fixed iirc
indigo sun
based on the dev blog it might take a little bit to get collision to where it should be
tepid dune
@forest grove ok, now imagine that organized in a proper channel here in the front pages like announcements and it being updated every dev meeting , i'm sure it would makes everyone life's easier. lets hope the roadmap does something similar
left nacelle
@tepid dune
- 2 Dinos. Utah and Tenonto. Old information we've known for ages.
- EVRIMA lack mechanics cause it's only the first update
- Bleed isn't in yet cause it's being remade
- Deino and ptera will be in when they're done
- Apexes will come when they're ready to be added
- Devs are going to be working on bug fixes and slowly adding new mechanics
- Not every mechanic will be in EVRIMA cause they need to be worked on. The less things there are in EVRIMA, the less bugs there will be
- CC only have EVRIMA to help with bug fixing
- Map isn't finished cause they ran into a last second problem with the first map
- A is being remade
- Fish need AI
All of these questions have been answered countless times and a lot of them are obvious
forest grove
They still get asked a lot though
left nacelle
Yeah, hence why they're putting out a roadmap
forest grove
just read over amar0k stream chat
tepid dune
@left nacelle you're missing my point here buddy, i'm not saying there ins't the information, i'm saying that it's hard for people that don't watches streams or ravenous videos to cover. everyone knows those but why though EVERYDAY these things are asked over and over again?
indigo sun
I honestly dont think even adding an FAQ would help. Have you seen how little people read announcements they wont actively look for the info theyll just spam the chat with their questions
warm belfry
@tepid dune
- 2 Dinos. Utah and Tenonto. Old information we've known for ages.
- EVRIMA lack mechanics cause it's only the first update
- Bleed isn't in yet cause it's being remade
- Deino and ptera will be in when they're done
- Apexes will come when they're ready to be added
- Devs are going to be working on bug fixes and slowly adding new mechanics
- Not every mechanic will be in EVRIMA cause they need to be worked on. The less things there are in EVRIMA, the less bugs there will be
- CC only have EVRIMA to help with bug fixing
- Map isn't finished cause they ran into a last second problem with the first map
- A is being remade
- Fish need AI
All of these questions have been answered countless times and a lot of them are obvious
@left nacelle Somebody pin this. Somebody, anybody, just pin this.
left nacelle
@tepid dune You tagged the wrong person. But people constantly ask because they don't look anywhere for the answers. People look in one place and if they don't see an answer they think it doesn't exist
Because people can be really dumb and lazy sometimes
tepid dune
oof, my bad, let me fix it
left nacelle
@warm belfry Pinning that would do nothing without putting the questions alongside them lol
tepid dune
that's the point, you don't think giving this on the easiest way possible wouldn't appease people that asks the same thing over and over again?
severe idol
The people that ask the same questions time and time again don't read Pins.
left nacelle
Yeah. It would. And that's exactly what the devs are doing lol
indigo sun
We have answers for a lot of questions pinned in general, and the rules even state that you really should read pins and descriptions, and yet no one reads those for information. No one even reads announcements for information they all just throw their questions in isle discussion regardless of if the questions have been answered in the last 5 seconds
warm belfry
Ah, right.
random imp
exactly. all the answers are in Announcements, and if one wants to take a spet more, in #401464048610312195 there should be the QnA writings pinged with the above and beyond informations.
tepid dune
We have answers for a lot of questions pinned in general, and the rules even state that you really should read pins and descriptions, and yet no one reads those for information. No one even reads announcements for information they all just throw their questions in isle discussion regardless of if the questions have been answered in the last 5 seconds
@indigo sun regarding this a big and fat channel called "Frequently asked questions" just below announcements wouldn't help? Pins are to hidden to be read frequently, devs-information is scattered like i said. i'm not saying that it would solve the problem for good, but it's a start.
indigo sun
Very few people will ever stop to think "hey has my question been asked before?" and bother looking in that channel
icy lion
people have asked about the release immediately after someone explained the release time
random imp
it'd not solve the problem, people will still ask again and again and again. so i'd be redundant
@indigo sun regarding this a big and fat channel called "Frequently asked questions" just below announcements wouldn't help? Pins are to hidden to be read frequently, devs-information is scattered like i said. i'm not saying that it would solve the problem for good, but it's a start.
@tepid dune
indigo sun
We've seen that more than ever in the past 12 hours. CONSTANTLY "When is the update coming?" "When is the update coming?" "when is the update coming?" They dont even know how to google timezones on their own, they wont actually think to look there
random imp
i mean, Announcement is the first channel and is called announcements for christ sake lol what more do you want? if people did not read it i doubt they'll read another channel.
left nacelle
Someone even asked about what time EVRIMA was coming out recently when Saoul's message saying "We don't know what time it's coming out" hadn't even scrolled off the screen yet (This was before we knew the time)
tepid dune
Announcements doens't has the big majority of information those people asks anyway. Bear with me, i'm someone who rarely uses discord and never looks this server etc. i saw something on a stream regarding EVRIMA and then i came here just to check it, where i'm more pronning to look at? a FaQ channel or isle-discussion?
icy lion
given how little people read isle discussion when they ask their questions, id say neither
random imp
actually, no, now that i noticed it, isle discussion has all the informations, litterally every sigle one
in the pings
there is everything
random imp
are you kidding? i am shoked, there is every single thing a person can think of asking
there are even the "mating 'n shit" discussion Para shut down.
icy lion
pins is a must read list
languid dagger
Please turn off global chat on launch
tepid dune
jesus christ, for the fourth time 
those people won't bother to read the pins, the whole point of a faq channel is to make even easier for people to gather their information instead of asking the same thing over and over and over again. i'm not saying the information ins't there, it is. but a problem we face EVERYDAY is people asking the same questions.
random imp
there should be a big fat "READ THE FUCKING PINS BEFORE ASKING" when someone log in for the first times
indigo sun
"Ensure that you've also read both the description and pinned messages in each channel before posting there." this makes it pretty obvious you should check pins in channels, but i guess the people who cant be assed to look at the chat for more than 5 seconds are too lazy to read the rules too
icy lion
if people arent willing to read the pins in the first channel they go to, i doubt theyll take anything more than a glance at a faq
random imp
don't get me wrong, i agree with you, but i fear that it 'd not solve the problem. people are dumbasses, remember that.
icy lion
i might just have so little faith in the community because people didnt understand what time "24 hours from now" would be cuz they were in europe and not cst
indigo sun
people thought americans got it like 6 hours earlier than they did because its so hard for them to grasp basic time rules
honest sparrow
I agree with that, faq would be nice, but dumbasses would ignore it
tepid dune
sadly there's ins't a solution for dumbness. 
random imp
lol not all us europeans are dumb, i promise you
left nacelle
And if you opened an FAQ, it would be more work for mods, cause that would be an extra channel to moderate
icy lion
i know lol, same with us americans
well a faq might be better as a read only channel where answers are posted only
random imp
And if you opened an FAQ, it would be more work for mods, cause that would be an extra channel to moderate
@left nacelle i think he means without chat, just a list of questons and answers
honest sparrow
Wouldn’t they just slam down the FAQ’s and leave it on read only?
random imp
^
tepid dune
the FAQ wouldn't be a open channel, it would be something updated weekly with some of the most frequent asked questions
honest sparrow
Imagine if someone asks recode when tomorrow
icy lion
they will
tepid dune
they will2
random imp
lol
icy lion
alternatively "i didnt get the update wah" since they didnt see the gif of how to access the beta
cobalt compass
ppl are just dumbnuts
tepid dune
Punch will post his GIF showing how to change to evrima and tons of people will dm him regardless asking how to switch
random imp
we also have to take into account that EVRIMA brought a ton of new people into the server, chaos was to be espected
icy lion
just like when they posted the count down and people asked how long was left lul
tepid dune
remember the avalanche of new people that got in here after the trailer?
random imp
i'm ever more convinced that there should be a "veteran" role
with a bunch of privileges
like a "veteran discussion" or something where we can have decent conversations without trolls or being flooded by useless questions
indigo sun
honestly i'd be down for that
cobalt compass
isnt thats booster-chat?
random imp
like, the ones who got the game since 2016
indigo sun
you pay for booster chat. anyone can pay for booster chat
random imp
no, booster is for the ones who pay
cobalt compass
🤔 true
random imp
so even a guy that joined yesterday can throw 10 dollars and be booster
they just get sneakpeeks in advance iirc
cobalt compass
"but i got the game fall '18, i wanna be Veteran too..."
random imp
" no you can't, go play outside"
cobalt compass
"but moooooom..."
cobalt compass
see thats some quality "comedy" i could live with such in a veteran chat
indigo sun
it there a bot that could do time based roles? Cause i was thinking you could have to be in the discord for a certain amount of time to get to the troll and dumbass-free chat. Trolls and dumbasses wouldnt last long enough
random imp
idk, i don't know how Discord works tbh
indigo sun
There are some pretty mature people who got the game more recently that wanna discuss stuff like adult human beings i figure if something like that exists they could also be free of dumbasses
cobalt compass
i think thats possible
cobalt compass
time isnt always a good factor to differ the level of 'maturity'
hmm🤔 is this even a correct sentence?
random imp
you are right, but at least it helps to filter
mighty girder
Eh wouldnt do anything except give people a superiority complex
cobalt compass
the bot just had to check once a day when you joined the discord
cobalt compass
indeed. i agree
mighty girder
No, you're not superior just because you bought the game before other people lol
random imp
jk
mighty girder
and Melon a lot of people have joined/left the discord before/after they got the game or anytime in between
I figured you were joking but I know some people who would genuinely think that so just put the no out there
XD
cobalt compass
than the only option left is, open a seperate discord with invitation
random imp
we were discusing about it, but having a chat where you are not interrupted every 2 secs 'd be awesome
cobalt compass
nah
mighty girder
you want premium chat spend the money
cobalt compass
not like premium
random imp
but booster chat is not a guarantee of serious conversation
cobalt compass
even little brats can get access to mommys creditcard to pay for boosterchat
mighty girder
Just like little brats can be in the community for a long standing point of time
What im trying to get at here, is theres no real benefit to the suggestion
It has no guarantee of solving any issues and a lot of possibilities of creating them
cobalt compass
just a mind game
random imp
that is true, there is not guarantee, but i'd help bring down some of the trolls
at least that's what i am imagening
mighty girder
People would start to think their opinion mattered more because they had the role, or think they shouldnt bother typing bc they dont. The chat would likely be just as chaotic or even simply dead because people would prefer to use isle discussion
cobalt compass
all we want is utopia for mature chatters😭
mighty girder
Utopia's all have one thing in common, they dont exist and if they do they blow up very fast
random imp
"sad tenonto sounds"
cobalt compass
yep unfortunatly thats true
random imp
wel imma leave the suggestion there tho
mighty girder
Discord has an update for me so brb (never know how long it'll take lmfao)
random imp
maybe the almighty gods will do something for us
cobalt compass
@languid dagger #general-feedback is for the actual suggestions and such
comments can be left here in #general-feedback-discussion
languid dagger
@cobalt compass yeah I figured that out
cobalt compass
👍
feral adder
Good suggestion Levi, i really like the symbol/color code idea for calls
Although i had most of the legacy calls memorized, i wouldn't expect other or newer players to do that.
On the other hand this may eliminate some of the horror aspect that Dondi wants the finished piece to have.
random imp
i don't like the call thinghy, it risks to becoome too easy to understand what is happening
it should show the nametags only for your group, that i agree with, but it should be just the 1 call and for a very little time. when two dinos in the same group are next to each other instead there should be no need for calls, the nametag should always show ( i mean very close, 1-2 bodylenght)
feral adder
I think it's a cool idea, but I don't see it working in TI.
Also yeah that sounds good Salva^
elfin pagoda
so there's the new mechanic where overeating makes you vomit and gives a debuff, however from what I've seen in vids it's pretty impossible to know the line of where full and over full begins. I suggest either having your dinosaur stop on it's own when it reaches full (therefore making it conscious decision to over eat by going for it again) or by changing the food icon in some way. maybe just a shift in color? it's a small thing but it could go a long way to improving gameplay
@candid badger
The thing is, if they make it possible to be a conscious decision, they also should give us a reason to overeat, and a debuff ain't gonna be worth it. But I agree, as it is it seems easy to overeat because of a "bad" HUD icon.
candid badger
yeah it's tricky tbh, not sure there's enough reason for adding overeating vomit in the first place but it's there now
indigo sun
@barren zephyr rexes will be less broken. Bone break is getting reworked and it wont be just "bite the tail break the leg" anymore, the major issue with rex. And combat will be more skill based. I dont think you'll need to worry about rexes in the future, theyre going to do everything in their power to balance rexes
barren zephyr
thank god
elfin pagoda
Well, I think it's a funny feature. Just like when you turn and turn and turn in Metal Gear Solid and then Snake vomits. So to me they should make it a bit clearer we're about to be full, but not too much. I'm waiting to try it out by myself, maybe it'll be natural and we'll know when to stop eating and vomiting will be an occasional mishap.
indigo sun
Dondi has said theres a buffer before you get sick, so its not immediately when you get full and eat the next bite, you can always check your hunger to make sure youre not eating too much
elfin pagoda
Oh did he? I didn't know that. That's good to know! Thanks :)
feral adder
Has it been confirmed salt licks will be on Spiro tonight? Or buff plants too for that matter?
indigo sun
I dont think theyve said anything about that
Its likely that might be one of those smaller things dondi talked about coming in smaller updates with the bugfixes
Why tf are people beggingfor rules, what do they want???
feral adder
I know if they're not in the initial release over eating wont be a huge penalty, as there would be no way to treat it.
elfin pagoda
I know if they're not in the initial release over eating wont be a huge penalty, as there would be no way to treat it.
@feral adder That'd be funny if we had to rest and digest for longer before we could eat again or something haha!
indigo sun
Pretty sure initial release you just vomit and lose a bit of hunger/thirst, unless they implement salt licks last minute or somethin
feral adder
srsly tho haha its so new rn how can people even think it needs it
indigo sun
I just dont understand what they mean by rules?
Theres rules for official servers, which are basically just pack limits and dont abuse bugs, what more does evrima need honestly?
elfin pagoda
Why tf are people beggingfor rules, what do they want???
@indigo sun Yeah, I don't like that idea. I do play on a server with rules (body down and stuff), but I don't think it should be official. People can play the way the want.
feral adder
official has always been wild west lol go play private servers
elfin pagoda
Or don't if you like to play in the wild west :p
indigo sun
.........
Just because theyre letting the testers fuck around and do whatever they want doesnt mean theres gonna be absolutely no rules in the updated servers where the fuck are people getting that idea
Its testing
elfin pagoda
From experience I guess? I haven't played the game long enough to know, and I've never played on official servers tbh.
indigo sun
Theres rules in officials, always will be until they get mechanics that remove the need for rules. A bunch of people fucking around and testing stuff is not the basis for what the official servers will be like
elfin pagoda
Imo they should focus on allowing server-hosting with EVRIMA, so that people who want rules can just go play on other servers. Then they can work on features that remove the need for rules.
indigo sun
barren zephyr
wrong..they didnt confirmed rules on this new update. theres literally no kind of mechanic to prevent megapacking or mixpacking the least they can do is to put packing limitations until they figure out another option.
heavy dragon
oh wait I guess I understood it wrong
indigo sun
And for you angmare this one seems relevant
heavy dragon
my bad
indigo sun
Im not sure what the first message of that screenshot is supposed to mean then if its not official rules. Its talking about official servers and a rule document what is that meant to be talking about?? Am i completely misreading it or some shit?
elfin pagoda
And for you angmare this one seems relevant
@indigo sun Oh nice! I heard we wouldn't be able to play on our favorite servers for a few days, so I wasn't really worried but that's good!
heavy dragon
oh well guess I didn't misread it
indigo sun
@barren zephyr can you explain the first message in the first screenshot i sent then? Cause it seems to me thats talking about a document for official server rules, but maybe im wrong
barren zephyr
does that mean they plan on adding rules to official servers after the release? honestly its not that well explained but from what ive understood yes..idk, gonna wait and see, if theres no rules i won't even bother, play this game for almost 4years now and no rules at its not fun, its actually the opposite
elfin pagoda
I assume you have your own reasons but why not play on a non-official server then? With rules you want?
indigo sun
Theres gonna be unofficial servers too if officials dont suit your tastes.
I really dont see anything about there being absolutely no rules though. Theyre not gonna do a bunch of rules for testing, so I dont see why you would look at that as a basis for what the actual official servers will be like.
sonic cloud
Play unofficials then, its not the end of the world
indigo sun
Dunno why people assumin shit
Its like thinking the demon baby bug is still in when it got fixed like two days ago just cause you saw it in a video when it was still in
barren zephyr
unofficial is not an option mate...one thing is having one or two rules for mixpacking and megapacking until they fix the problem another completely different thing is joining a server with a multitude of stupid rules, not gonna happen. Always played official and will only play official in this game.
elfin pagoda
I see what you mean, and I guess there's no server with only a few rules and enough players to make it worth playing on them. Well then, you'll have to wait and see if it suits you.
barren zephyr
i mean..Legacy rules, ez. Until they add some sort of mechanic to prevent that kinda shit just enforce Legacy rules and its all good.
ngl i'm a little concerned cause ive watched a content creator expressing the same concern and he actually dm punch and didnt even got a reply...so he was assuming that no rules was gonna be the bread n butter like old days.
elfin pagoda
Minor Graphics Suggestion: Because of the increased opacity of the water in EVRIMA, the water edge look a lil plasticy and end suddenly. I think adding more transparency on the edge of the water will drastically improve how the water looks when overlapping land.
@wispy tusk
I heard Dondi (I think that was him) say they had to add the brushes and stuff on the water texture. What we're seeing right now in the CC's version of EVRIMA isn't the end product remember.
rugged condor
Human AI would be cool.
@edgy harbor that might only be a thing in the far future
glossy matrix
nah
human Ai would be way too dumb
the new AI guy is good but probably not that good
edgy harbor
But like.
It wouldn't be dumb
If it wasn't dumb.
random imp
lol, first of all how do you know? do you have any notion about programming? second, if you feel so confident why didn't you apply for the AI programming role? easy criticizing when behind a monitor ;)
the new AI guy is good but probably not that good
@glossy matrix
indigo sun
I wouldnt shit on Allen's work before you see it, mate
He seems to be doing pretty good so far
glossy matrix
bruh moment
i ain't shitting on any work
i'm saying that humans will be hell to make complex ai for
lmao
edgy harbor
There's no reason to insult and be up at arms about this. Human AI would be difficult. I DO think they could do it though. In a while.
glossy matrix
There's no reason to insult and be up at arms about this. Human AI would be difficult. I DO think they could do it though. In a while.
@edgy harbor truetho
ashen elm
@forest grove Hornet while I think writing a FAQ for new players is a good idea why write on paper instead of a google document or alternative word program?
lusty sparrow
^
daring bramble
I know Gojira was in no way insulting Allen, but the way he phrased it did sound like he was insulting him a bit lol it's hard to understand people's tone with all the shit going on in this discord
forest grove
I probably will translate into google docs
ashen elm
👍
indigo sun
@barren zephyr Theres no set time before the next animals are added, but we've been told responses such as an animal/animals every 2-4 weeks or 1-2 animals a month, presumably after the initial bugfixing and short week break. Best to just wait for the road map on friday
random imp
@barren zephyr not long. you can find all the informations in the pinned messages in #401464048610312195
barren zephyr
ok thanks
strange wave
@cerulean osprey you will be able to configure what animals are in the server, but a near map would have to be a mod
random imp
the isle takes place in the modern world, so there won't be prehistoric themed island.
but i am quite sure that when mods will be a thing again, people will create them
sudden hinge
The feedback thread is wack right now why are people asking questions in it
Like they should be suggesting things or giving feedback
random imp
🤷♂️
cerulean osprey
That’d be an awesome mod
rain knoll
What would?
indigo sun
Shit sorry I wrote in the wrong channel
thorny lynx
What happened with Truesky? Why can't we have it, anymore? It looked so good in the trailer... now the lighting looks.. eh....
random imp
the light for what we know is so much better than the game we have now... at least for the next 9 mins
mighty girder
I think they went over it in the first devblog didnt they? something to do with optimization?
thorny lynx
The lighting and shadows made everything so realistic... it was one of the major features we've been looking forward to...
indigo sun
Someone said something about it not being compatible with Unreal Engine 4, but I can look at the devblog to see if theres an answer there
thorny lynx
Once again, we sacrifice visuals for performance..
random imp
truesky was abandoned because of costs? i think? i remember a dev talking about it in streams but i do not remember
mighty girder
Yeah thats usually how games work fluff
doesnt matter how good a game looks if people cant run it
random imp
i think it was Dondi talking about it in a stream
game must run also for people who don't have 1k+ pcs
mighty girder
but anyways im not even sure that was the reason, I think it was but might not have been
thorny lynx
The whole point of the new game was so that people with potatoes could play it
with the shiny new features
indigo sun
If I knew what stream it was, I would try to find out when he said it and try to get you an answer fluff
thorny lynx
;A;
I hope we get something similar to Truesky that in quality that won't kill our PCs
indigo sun
"but the reason they axed it was that they weren't getting support for it from whoever is supposed to offer support for it" - this is from Ravenous
random imp
holy shit, we r 21140 people on line right now
indigo sun
So basically I guess they were having issues and no one was gonna help them solve the issues?
random imp
the game is heavily optimized
thorny lynx
"but the reason they axed it was that they weren't getting support for it from whoever is supposed to offer support for it" - this is from Ravenous
@indigo sun What? That's bullshit. You need to purchase the scripts for it
random imp
rav said that it runs 20% better on every computer iirc
indigo sun
I'm just quoting what rav says
thorny lynx
Couldn't they have just held Truesky back for a little bit until they get the support and troubleshooting they needed?
random imp
truesky wasn't convinient anymore
thorny lynx
convenient?
random imp
so they decided to opt for something different, as simple as that
thorny lynx
And it's worse
indigo sun
It was probably just easier for them to move to something else due to the inconvenience, cant just wait around for help when youre trying to get a major update out
random imp
yhea, i don't remember why but Dondi said that it wasn't convinient anymore for them to use it
thorny lynx
I hope this lighting is a placeholder for something better later.
We've been teased with Truesky for months upon months and so many people were hyped for it
random imp
it was the stream when he explained about the clouds and the volumetric weather i think
no, the fact that they abandoned truesky is several months old
thorny lynx
It was the main thing that made the sunsets and the streasm and trailers so beautiful... rip Ptera soaring into the sunset....
mighty girder
To be fair
the lighting isnt gonna show its full potential
we only have day
theres no cycle
thorny lynx
Oh. No nighttime yet?
feral verge
It keeps crashing for me, when I launch it it just reads "fatal error"
distant scroll
evrima is crashing for me as well
i press play, it loads for a few seconds (steam) and then goes back to saying ''play''
daring bramble
Probably cause of everyone downloading at the same time
placid whale
It's also not starting up for me
brisk pumice
so... has anyone actually started the game after updating it?
nova loom
I got in game, but only in menu. I have only password protected servers and can't connect
brisk pumice
it won't launch for me no matter what i do..
willow wedge
It wont launch for me either
daring bramble
Why is only here the chill place?
nova loom
shh dont jinx it 😄
pliant maple
Something wrong
daring bramble
indigo sun
Man all these people having issues gives me a higher chance of getting in. Theyve got some work arounds if you cant launch the game. Check #announcements or the pins in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
languid arrow
the game isnt launching?
feral wedge
daring bramble
Check #announcements
And there's a lot of people trying to get into the game that it's breaking steam at this point lol
uneven ether
I'm in the game but no servers are loading
jagged cedar
can not load into a server at all
barren zephyr
This is not the channel, check #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 .
feral wedge
This conversation does not belong in this channel. Go to #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
@soft zealot Questions do not belong in feedback.
indigo sun
Yall its a beta and its bound to have issues with like 20000 people rushing to download and play it
odd silo
Well for feedback it is absolutly amazing what you guys are doing and have done great job
wrong channel lol
dawn tide
anyone else cant launch it?
indigo sun
void sundial
sorry here the players put the things they want for evrima?
hidden wing
I cant join any server
raw orbit
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cyan heron
damn you people are so fucking rude
feral wedge
@stiff widget No advertising of any kind is permitted in this Discord.
fossil kiln
When i try to join a server it just puts me back onto the main screen
stiff widget
ah say nizza mate didnt know about that one still. ill be sure to shout you privately about playing on that game in the future my slime
barren zephyr
I hit play it goes to boot up but stops and it wants me to hit play again?
random imp
@raw orbit litterally when you launch the game it says that isn't ready and is the very first public patch... can you read?
void sundial
Hii????? Hello?????
daring bramble
@void sundial whatcha need?
feral wedge
@modern hare Discussion goes here.
amber horizon
The game is bugging out so much because there's an enormous amount of people trying to join. It's a higher number than when CC's played.
modern hare
👍
trail bolt
@viscid plover Preach
random imp
well, imma go to sleep, this mess and raging kiddos ain't for me, gn
void sundial
@daring bramble here the players put the things they want for evrima?
daring bramble
@void sundial That is in #general-feedback this is the discussion for it
prisma jasper
what does this mean?
void sundial
A ok thx@daring bramble
trail bolt
Means you need to get a refund zen
eternal owl
@snow valve Deinosuchus does run would run like a living crocodile/alligator, as it has a very similar stature. You're thinking of Kaprosuchus, araripesuchus, and other galloping crocs
prisma jasper
:(
stiff widget
@viscid plover bro dont stop now, the shit u saying facts
zen bro get a refund while u still can
prisma jasper
fuk
subtle oasis
Dew it
trail bolt
Everyone request a refund, they can't deny all of us
indigo sun
Christ one beta release goes wrong and yall go batshit fuckin crazy.
sharp epoch
@trail bolt That made my day! I couldn't stop laughing 😄
limber vigil
Why? Cause you can’t get into a beta literally an hour into release lol
Listen, just try again tomorrow
stiff widget
Sir Ratman dont test me mate
I havent waited 1 hour
ive waited like 3 fucking years
limber vigil
Or what big man
stiff widget
wdum big man are you crazy
limber vigil
Wait another day
indigo sun
Every update has issues. How bout you wait until there isnt 10000 fuckin people spamming servers n shit tryin to get in
stiff widget
bro ill smack your nan
limber vigil
It’s a game
stiff widget
nah its more then a game
buoyant oxide
Yall overreacting just a tad imo. It a beta. Give it a week
cloud verge
daring bramble
Vince you gotta be trolling
stiff widget
I would never
stiff widget
bruh stfu
eternal owl
@glad ocean go to #pinned-troubleshooting
trail bolt
You what?
bitter jasper
we both have a blue tag
snow valve
@snow valve Deinosuchus does run would run like a living crocodile/alligator, as it has a very similar stature. You're thinking of Kaprosuchus, araripesuchus, and other galloping crocs
@eternal owl
what i mean is they have a leaping gallop
haughty cliff
Typical launch bugs aside, the new menu, the blue, the new video on the loading, all that is gorgeous.
trail bolt
Damn bro that's funy
bitter jasper
and thats my old profile pic xD
snow valve
not like horse lol
trail bolt
hol up fr?
bitter jasper
yeah
trail bolt
that's mad haha
waxen lake
So, how do I stop my game from looking blurryyy
subtle oasis
Blue is a clone
eternal owl
A crocodile of that size wouldn't manage anything more of a speed waddle
amber horizon
Aye, I gave genuine feedback and it got deleted.
brittle ivy
If you're experiencing launch issues, like majority of people at this time, please see #pinned-troubleshooting
bitter jasper
xD
subtle oasis
Lmao
daring bramble
For a sec I thought you two had reversed discord tag numbers too
bitter jasper
xD
feral wedge
@trail bolt Put that in the appropriate channel.
brisk pumice
does anyone know where the vcruntime140_1.dll file goes?
winter grove
30 bugs left in Evrima. "None gamebreaking." Game is pretty broken.
trail bolt
YES RURU!
shrewd patio
steam>steamapps>common>theisle
stiff widget
yo are you crazy gar getting onto blue
feral wedge
No.
stiff widget
okay sorry
daring bramble
omg Ruru I thought Blue responded to me I just not realized it was you xD
feral wedge
Troubleshooting messages should go into the troubleshooting channels.
Not in the feedback/suggestions channel about the game.
north lake
How can this new version be lacking so many features from the original game? ie. grass moving, dino roars, smelling, UI functionality
stiff widget
you just gotta allow him you get me my slime
feral wedge
Idc who it is.
stiff widget
Yo but its blue bro
north lake
Do the dinosaurs even grow?
daring bramble
Yes
distant storm
Please shut down posting for just an hour.
Only an hour
No one will die from this.
teal lava
^
daring bramble
They grow seamlessly instead of having to manual click to make yourself grow @north lake
distant storm
Yeah allow time to get a how to install officially posted
snow valve
@eternal owl but the body shape literally cant support that sort of movment at that speed, not without the whole body needing to sway side to side, when its performing the classic high walk it can since the movment is slow and causes no strain on the hips and shoulders but it cant run like that at that size either, if anything a better comprimise then would be a powerful push to then belly slide along the floor or something if they wouldnt give it the leaping gallop like its smaller decendants have.
stiff widget
fuck dat
distant storm
This is why they need to shutdown. Please just to collect up the information
Just the chats
Not the game
teal lava
I'm fully expecting a discord server shutdown after the official install guide is released so people can figure out their own problems and read instead of asking a question already asked 500 times by 50 other people
teal lava
Ikr? What a fantasy
feral wedge
@harsh silo #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
harsh silo
teal lava
I also fully expect afterwards for Dondi to pull a fast one and shut down the game for an hour or so just to make them panic even more 😂
daring bramble
oof that'd raise even more hell
teal lava
absolutely
distant storm
Idc they need to smother this fire
onyx thorn
The server are way too laggy, i see utahs tp themselfs impossible to play Tenonto
teal lava
Because there's literally almost 12k people trying to play it right now
I'm just gaining this increased relief that my friend's laptop is not working so we get to wait to play it until that's fixed/found
When hopefully all the chaos will have passed the initial flare up of 12 year olds overdosing on sugar and falling into a literal panic because the shiny new dino game is acting accordingly to the thousands of people trying to play it
onyx thorn
yeah i'm gonna wait until everything is fixed but dam those utahs who tp themself pissed me off lmao
daring bramble
I was gonna be waiting regardless cause I don't even have the game installed lol
teal lava
XD mood, I haven't even tried to update it yet
onyx thorn
wait for the game to cool down a little bit lmao
amber horizon
oh, just realized that the mods arent actually patient as i had said in my deleted feedback
calm down people, things are rolling.
teal lava
Give it a few days, probably a week, and things should be...handleable
daring bramble
It was probably best I don't have it rn anyway with the shit that happened-
wintry rover
should I leave render scale alone? its at 66.6 in settings
teal lava
No they are patient, but patience is finite and they're reaching their limit
I don't blame them
teal lava
Absolutely
Those of us who aren't will be patient and have an all together better experience for our good behavior
wintry rover
does no one know the answer to my question? I can't exactly ask in discussion because its flooded x.x
daring bramble
Might wanna ask in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 Love Bug
teal lava
I don't understand render scaling yet, I recommend asking in another channel that's relevant to that topic cause I'm a stupid 😂
daring bramble
Idk when I'll get TI bought but I'm sure when I do, it'll be way better then it is rn lol so I'm patient, waited years to get stuff before so it's no biggie lol
daring bramble
No, I don't have it at all lol
river sparrow
i cant boot up my isle when clicking play.....how do i use the file they dev linked a nd put it in... someone respond plz
daring bramble
Haven't bought it yet
silk leaf
madam
teal lava
oh oof, I wish I had money, I'd gift it to ya 😂 but I'm deadass broke and living at my parent's house
tbh tho waiting will probably actually be better
river sparrow
oh wait fuck wrong channel
teal lava
I have it and I'm most certainly waiting
river sparrow
oops
daring bramble
Been wanting to but with covid and all, it's become difficult since our money has been spent on food and other stuff
teal lava
Yeah, that's understandable, well, they did say they'd be taking a bit of a break after this, so assuming they actually do, that gives us latecomers time to get in and experience the current build before they resume adding stuff
daring bramble
And it's fine, I'm in no rush to get lol xD I'm sure once I get my Switch Lite stuff settled and then my ACNH game I'll be set to save up for TI next
teal lava
Yeeeeee, I wish you luck! I'm most certainly expecting to spawn in and die from rubberbanding to a utah when I eventually do, but it's all for the experience 😂
daring bramble
oof same, I kind of expect to be someone's food cause I'll have to learn to play once I do get it lol
long basin
Did it take anyone else a really long time to load in? I've been stuck on the DATA ACQUISTION IN PROGRESS screen for like 5 min now.
daring bramble
oof someone tagged Dondi
teal lava
Yeee, I just ducked into #401464048610312195 and immedaitely left cause there's children screeching
indigo sun
Nother screenshot for the collage! Dont ping devs folks its against the rules
long basin
Thanks @teal lava
teal lava
Np!
daring bramble
Yea, I retreated to #401470471750811669 until that was taken over lol
teal lava
Mood
daring bramble
Now I'm waiting for the slowmode to lower again there lol
teal lava
I'm glad this one is relatively clear of screaming and slow mode, at least for now we can actually converse here
teal stirrup
Goes into BETAs tab, clicks public beta branch, complains about the unfinished state of the beta branch. 🤔
daring bramble
Yea, I'm surprised nobody flocked here 
daring bramble
oof
neat beacon
@tardy hinge you're gonna miss a shit ton but ok
gentle wind
Its too late Skysealer already # it B)
teal lava
Paradym's status is a big mood tho tbh
languid dagger
HOLY Poop at all the cry babies
tardy hinge
@neat beacon 👍🏾
teal stirrup
isle gets rusty, all servers are locked 😎
magic frost
All the babies refunding because they can't play the game right this second. Talk about acting like spoiled toddlers. XD
teal lava
Always
daring bramble
It's sad how people are bad when we've been warned so many times
languid dagger
^
daring bramble
Like, I think half those mad people asking for refunds are trolls but idek at this point
gentle wind
What do you mean an independent game dev team's game isn't working properly after only an hour??
teal stirrup
the average person's attention span is about 5 minutes vixen nobody listens to warnings they just react
trail bolt
We are.
teal lava
all the newbies and impatient children come in and act like no one has ever asked that question or brought up this blatantly common issue before like "oh I must be the only person in the damn universe with issues atm I should be the spotlight on your limited attention"
trail bolt
Everyone request refunds, they can't deny us all 😂
daring bramble
Yea, I always know shit like this happens but seeing it explode from start to finish is crazy-
teal lava
it never gets old 😂
daring bramble
Like, I always pop in the middle or end of toxic crap but watching it unfold and then being there for the end jfc
timber raft
I’m really sad every time I get in a server I get 20 mins into growing and then I get kicked and lose my progress
indigo sun
No one gives ashit if you get a refund. If youre this pissed about a beta release then feel free to head off, we dont care
languid dagger
^
barren zephyr
^
brittle ivy
Let's not make a big deal out of someone's choice to refund a game, please.
magic frost
Y'all shouldn't be abusing the devs like this. If you're so mentally unhinged over a game, please seek therapy.
barren zephyr
^
teal lava
Or go to bed, or do both cause ur obviously staying up too late
languid dagger
we're making a big deal out of all the people constantly complaining about a fresh released game
teal stirrup
how he gonna feel that he refunded the game after buying $13 and the price goes up to $40 🤣
daring bramble
WQ didn't even have this shit happen and it's practically a early beta release too but I guess in WQ you have the AI hunting and such but still idk it's just crazy to me cause I've always been go with the flow and cool with whatever
gentle wind
Not so much the choice to make one but their reactions are ridiculous
teal lava
We're discussing the chaos that was expected and I am in no way making a big deal if we're comparing apples to apples 😂
I gotta talk about something and I'd rather discuss civilly in here than join the spamming chaos that is the general discussion atm
teal moat
got dced 4 times already within a minute or 2 in. Am i the only one?
teal lava
If it's a game issue I'd put it in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
daring bramble
teal stirrup
my $13 was not met with instant gratification of new big update that works perfectly! 
what do you mean I could make that in an hour working at walmart?!
teal lava
🤣
daring bramble
omg
teal lava
I work at walmart and I don't make that much in an hour, I need to work at your walmart
daring bramble
really? damn
teal lava
Target pays like $15/hr and I am deeply wishing I'd gotten a job there instead of the $11.50 that I get at mine
barren zephyr
what confuses me is people being angry at how there is only 2 dinos at launch, havent we known it would only be at launch for months now/
barren zephyr
i dunno
teal stirrup
pfft, everybody knows there's only one dino and that's Utah. Who needs anything else?
daring bramble
Well, I get if they didn't have a discord to see it though
teal lava
We should start a new internet rule. Rule 103: If something exists in The Isle, people will be mad about it
indigo sun
People want their fat fuckin rexes. But yeah we've known for a whie now we'd only get two dinos and they can still switch back to the old version until the new one works
teal lava
also Rule 34 should have been Rule 69, change my mind 😂