Sure but ide still not want to leave it up to chance
#general-feedback-discussion
covert birch
cobalt compass
but anyways, thats just one of many possible solutions
indigo sun
that's a chance people arent going to want to take
they'll just kill off their dino themselves or keep using the same dino til it dies naturally
cobalt compass
i suggested it and still dont like slots
i am a happy little dino player with just one slot
the ⛔ is my own 🤷♂️
but that brings me to another thought, did you read only the 1st variant?
cobalt compass
to bring balance to the crowd
covert birch
Ide rather know where i spawn in
cobalt compass
that would prevent abuses like current alt acc uses for revenge kills
to a point at least
covert birch
Timers can also be used to avoid that, so can a points systems for what your tiers are
Cuz if someone wants to use their rex to revenge kill
The thing they are taking revenge on the death for would be like a hypsi and by that hypsi corpse will be moved or quickly eaten if anything
Like very specific circumstances need to happen for many of these issues to be possible or common
cobalt compass
point is, we dont know exactly how evrima works and my suggestions is only adapted to current state
best thing is to wait
paper oriole
Wtf is that death screen suggestion
“The ragdoll ruins the the horror aspect, so instead it should just look like and old tv being turned off because thats so spooky”
covert birch
Imo they should add an option that lets you use the old extinct screen
cobalt compass
with the current death screen you can most times see what killed you
left nacelle
@pale sorrel I can guarantee this is coming. Considering grass already does this
left nacelle
Yep!
It won't be too complex tho, it'll probably just move out of the way. The devs explained that making foliage physics too complex can really mess up performance with such big maps with so many players
strange wave
hasn't the duckweed been shown on the deino already
left nacelle
Oh yeah it has
We haven't seen it in an actual moving environment tho, so we don't know if it'll move dynamically. But I'd be surprised if it doesn't
covert birch
it does move dynamically
and the duckweed stays on your body after leaving water too
covert birch
no footage, just what he said
cobalt compass
- sad sigh *
left nacelle
@cobalt compass No footage. We do have this picture tho, dunno if you've seen it or not
cobalt compass
yeah i've seen this one, thought there were some vids of it
left nacelle
I wish there were vids of it
pale sorrel
Same
left nacelle
Imagine how well camouflaged a green colored deino would be in that
cobalt compass
no i dont want to, there is no fresh pant near me
pale sorrel
@winter kraken I'm sure they'll fix any issues with it when they add update/re-model and re-implement it to The Isle in the recode
winter kraken
Yea, I just died as a anky that I grew all the way, to 1 adult rex. I played pretty good imo, danced around in the tree's. hit him 1-2 times before he could actually hit me, but once he's broken hitbox leg broke me at my tail. he bit me like 3-4 more times and I died.
did they put anky in the game to troll the players?
loud owl
Most likely but if logical a Rex could kill a Anky
paper oriole
Anky can also shatter rex's shins and walk away
loud owl
Yea agreed, they should atleast give anky bone break
winter kraken
like, I may not be the best fighter, but when I saw that I had a little advantage over the rex, I felt confident, only to get nuked in 4-5 bites.
they are slow because they are walking tanks
in the isle they are pathetic
paper oriole
Or shatter his jaw or skull if the rex is dumb enough to get in range of that, hopefully they do anky justice and don't make him some weak walking steak
winter kraken
pretty sure they already are, hope this will get fixed though, i was like " trike cant be the only actual scary big boy in the herbie side"
tries out anky, " sigh "
loud owl
If they add a jaw shatter the Rex shouldn’t be able to bite and would have to rest longer than leg break to heal it
paper oriole
Trike is hardly scary right now either, in a 1v1 any giga with an ounce of patience wrecks trike
paper oriole
Hopefully the slow herbis become something to think twice before messing with with the new combat
winter kraken
yea its pretty clear dev's care more about the carnivores because all the kids want to play big scary rexie ;))))
paper oriole
If they have no option to outrun their predators they should have good odds in a fight (damn i cant type on mobile lol)
Yea sadly theres a big stinking bias towards carnis that isnt subtle at all
winter kraken
god damn, a bit salty still i lost my anky, i expected it to have some resistance to its bite. thus the shiny armor on it.
paper oriole
Some day, hopefully... some day
paper oriole
❤️
winter kraken
❤️
harsh silo
I mean, the anky is a sandbox only dinosaur for a reason, not rdy for survival 
sudden hinge
Hey I’m always confused but what does the community mean when they use this ⏲
pastel panther
they usually mean the feature that was suggested is confirmed to come to the game already
sudden hinge
Ah gotcha
indigo sun
@main oak No.
paper oriole
how many suggestions have there been involving the spino tail now lol
covert birch
in specifically suggestions, like 8
Including general discussion like 50
indigo sun
Oh a bit more than i remember
paper oriole
thought i was crazy for a sec like i coulda sworn i seen more than 3 lol
strange wave
people seem not to understand that making a new model, even for the tail will cost thousands of dollars for the model change, and the animation work that is needed to make it not break the already used animations for the dinosaur
valid zephyr
Lol i'm guilty of a spino tail suggestion.
Was happy with 50 upvotes though. 
paper oriole
to be fair that one was for a logical juvenile stage morph
valid zephyr
That one started as a troll tadpole suggestion and actually turned out serious the more I thought about it.
paper oriole
yeah it makes sense tho, spino and the juvie look like pretty slow animals, so the juvie having better swimming for protection would make sense
and the tail gradually losing its fin
valid zephyr
tentacle helped with that one
axolotl was the inspiration
grow to sub and then morph into monster spino
left nacelle
@main oak The game isn't going for accuracy. The animals in game aren't even the same animals as the irl ones. They're human made animals that are inspired and named after the irl ones. Spino already has a new model
indigo sun
Chances are spino will change again in a few years anyway so it'd be ultimately useless
left nacelle
Well they also found Spinosaurus arms when they found the tail, but we won't find out any info about the arms for a year or so I've heard. So it will change in like a year lol
marble flame
I dont wany a spino remodel anyways
1, thats more money gone into a new model that wasnt even used
2, just no, i dont like the new spino at all
strange wave
@barren zephyr the stats will be changed, a feathers will be an option and chat in here not in suggestions
because i like the current velo model and sounds?
@keen socket Talk in here
keen socket
Oki
strange wave
you might want to delete that message before the mods whack you
keen socket
Okay ty for telling
indigo sun
Don said no for the tail. 1.) Its not what they want for their spino and 2.) The spino's gonna change in like a year and then they'd need to remodel again if they wanted to be accurate. 3.) That costs thousands and isnt worth it
strange wave
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/665382653914120222/SpinoCrouchMove.mp4 this is new spino, they aren't changing it (atleast for a long fucking time) and they aren't going for accurate, they are going for something that wont get devoured by a 30 foot alligator
marble flame
We dont need a new spino guys
The devs have already spent alot of work on the current model
And alot of money into it as well
random imp
Once mods will be enabled again its 100% sure somebody is gonna make a model for the new spino anyway.
past eagle
These two speak facts
safe galleon
@summer forge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/666008288739065876/image0.jpg
we will be getting ovi
left nacelle
It's coming in the recode, but not in EVRIMA
safe galleon
AKA later
left nacelle
Not really. Later would imply it's coming after the recode, which it isn't
It's coming sometime during the recode process. So probably sometime in the next 6 months
summer forge
ohh I see
thanks and sorry I didn't see it in the dev's message where they say which dinos are coming
left nacelle
Scroll through #phase-two-archive and you'll see all kinds of new stuff. Including the other new animals' concept art
The 14 New Animals Coming During The Recode:
Carnivore:
-Troodon (playable)
-Compsognathus (playable/AI)
-Monolophosaurus (playable)
Omnivore:
-Oviraptor (playable)
-Beipiaosaurus (playable) (Mostly Herbivorous)
Herbivore:
-Hypsiliphodon (playable/AI)
-Tenontosaurus (playable)
-Magyarosaurus (playable)
-Kentrosaurus (playable)
-Homalocephale (playable/AI)
-Minmi (playable/AI)
-Protoceratops (playable)
Flyer:
-Pteranodon (playable)
Aquatic:
-Deinosuchus (playable)
summer forge
thanks!
left nacelle
No prob! 👍
safe galleon
<@&401466542140817419> something in #general-feedback
indigo sun
@barren zephyr
valid zephyr
you need to go into a dinos mechanics in detail
why would it be good for a game
how would it function
what niche does it hold
stats isn't nearly everything. dinos are planned to have a lot more mechanics than they do now
have a look at suggestions from kingjaffad as examples of the kind of detail that is good to see on a suggestion.
I suspect yutyrannus could be made pretty interesting. it's a lot smaller than alberto.
a bit larger than cerato
i'm not sure where the 3.5 tons comes from
irl it's about 1.4 tons
all sources seem to point to it being around 1.4 tons
cerato is 1 ton
allo is around 3 tons
1.4 tons is also a place with more gaps in the roster
yutyrannus being a tiny bit bigger than allo would be an exact copy and paste of alberto
frosty crystal
looks too much like a alberto clone
imo
in terms of stats
and alberto might will get a lockjaw mechanic last time i heard iirc
some sort of grapple
not sure tho
icy lion
i know dondi said itll have a "unique mechanic" but i have no idea what that is. lockjaw would be cool
frosty crystal
explain how it would be great gameplay wise
frosty crystal
rn your yuty has the same stats as alberto, so if you were to implement it with the purpose of it not being a pack hunter then yuty wouldn't do much tbh
Speed : 39.2 km/h 42.1 km/h
Bite : 424N
and weight : 3ton
again evrima is coming so stats might change
weight won't be tied to health in evrima
icy lion
i dont see how cerato is an allo clone
frosty crystal
also cera is a bit slower than allo sort of, allo has longer ambush and faster
cera has bad ambush
icy lion
id love to see yuty but its so similar to alberto that it might as well be a skin
frosty crystal
because again it's literally a alberto clone
cera plays differently than allo
how ?
so basically you're trying to make a better alberto
icy lion
regens dont make it play different though
i think the biggest issue is visuals here, even if you made the stat change proportional to cera/allo then you still have two nearly identical dinos
frosty crystal
basically feathered alberto
icy lion
and if the skin/feather system is a go, then it could be an alberto skin. same argument as carchar with giga already in the game
frosty crystal
also funny thing is giga was supposed to be a skin for acro
not so much
You just don't like the Yutyrannus if you like it you would of put a thumb up but no you hate it
and no, i like yuty.
it's not that i don't like it.
because it hunted in groups?
lol, okay and why wouldn't alberto hunt in groups aswell ?
ebon tiger
Yuty is basically another Allo though
frosty crystal
it's game, they definetly can group
cera is far from having the same stats as allo
yet carnos plays differently than cera and allo
cera scavenger, carno hunts in groups allo just bodies everything in groups
civic carbon
cerato and allo def don't have the same stats btw
frosty crystal
they don't.
ebon tiger
what does Yutyrannus bring to the game that Allosaurus doesn't, though?
it's nothing like Alberto, really
blazing charm
Someone's trying to suggest Yutyrannus?
frosty crystal
yeah
icy lion
if you took the stat changes between allo and cera and applied the proportion to alberto to make yuty, it might be fun. but theyre also way too close in size (and shape)
blazing charm
Stats aren't going to help differentiate a playable much, they need a mechanic to help differentiate it.
frosty crystal
i mean stats do differentiate playables a bit
icy lion
yea, and im not exactly sure what that "should" be. especially since we dont know albertos new unique mechanic
blazing charm
Okay yes, stats can help differentiate to some degree, but I think it's worth trying to steer away from playables that are just stat swaps of each other.
frosty crystal
yes
sonic cloud
That Yutyrannus suggestion is perhaps one of the worst I’ve seen for an animal in a long damn time
blazing charm
Okay, let's just tone it down there.
frosty crystal
was about to say that
sonic cloud
Prove me wrong tho
civic carbon
calling someone a hater for not liking your suggestion is just as flamebaity imho
instead of calling us yuta haters, try and respond to the criticism
safe galleon
that what he said not because he didn't like it look
I dont understand what you're trying to say
one of the worst
civic carbon
you were calling others haters too.
safe galleon
yeah, lets move on and leave this
frosty crystal
constructive criticism
pastel panther
why not edit the original suggestion instead of reposting it over and over
safe galleon
did you delete the old suggestion and now post the same suggestion again?
safe galleon
actually it says 16:36 
pastel panther
lol
safe galleon
what did you change/add to the suggestion, Nikson?
pastel panther
his timezone makes it at that time
safe galleon
I was making a joke about time-zones
pastel panther
what are you saying its original bite force would be without the pack buff
if it was 400 base + 100 that'd be too strong for its size
it'd run over everything
safe galleon
so he will have
-alot of bleed
-alot of stamina
-fast ambush
-powerful bite
civic carbon
so just allo but with alberto jaws
civic carbon
considering it's a shitton smaller then allo
pastel panther
depends if you want it to be a bleeder a biter or an in between
making it too strong in both would make it too good
ok so like alberto level bleed?
maybe
but to make it not too similar to alberto
it should be closer to real life size
that way we could have a smaller tyrannosaurid
civic carbon
it's like 1.4 irl lmao
pastel panther
yeah
3 tons is like doubling its size
nat geo says 1.5
cerato is getting size decrease
civic carbon
yes
safe galleon
yupp
pastel panther
is pack buff based off a certain number
and does it have a cap
what's its flaws?
being controlled by a player its intelligence doesn't matter
pastel panther
everything you suggested about it so far is a good quality while most dinos have at least one bad one
pastel panther
also prob lower bite force than you suggested because of the pack buff idea
icy lion
yea, make the incentive for being in a pack much higher
pastel panther
maybe 250
icy lion
keep the 50 or 75N increase but make base lower, so theres a big reason to pack up
pastel panther
250+50 from pack buff would make it 300 which is what allo has now
icy lion
maybe thats the downside, not good at all alone
pastel panther
yeah that works
275 alone is solid
ig it gives low bleed then too
not sure what alberto bite force is gonna be yet but it should be lower than that
civic carbon
alberto is getting redone lol
it'll be completely different then current
and even then, current stats don't matter
left nacelle
@blissful violet That's already planned
I don't like it personally. It just seems like a better Allosaurus
When in reality, Yutyrannus would be more similar to a T. rex
indigo sun
Personally I think we've got enough mid tiers and dont see much of a point in adding it
pastel panther
since it's smaller it should be worse than those two
left nacelle
Don't forget Nikson, every animal in the game costs $7000+
@slow snow Already planned
left nacelle
Yeah. Cerato will be able to eat rotten meat and bones
slow snow
Oh cool, I feel hyena should be tanky with good biteforce for its size too tho 
pastel panther
allos are much bigger than yuty though
left nacelle
iirc, Cerato will be tanky
civic carbon
main hyena cerato idea is that it's an endurance hunter
lots of stam, tanks enough to shrug off smalltier shit but like
midtiers can still fuck it over if you're caught off guard
indigo sun
Yeah im sick of pouring mid tier carnivores into the game
civic carbon
we have like, 3 lol
carno allo n alberto
cerato isn't big enough
and sucho is too big
uh no, it is not
with max irl sizes? fuck no
sucho dwarfs alberto and allo
pastel panther
sucho is getting a big size upgrade when it's back nikson
alberto is bigger in game now but it won't be when they're back
civic carbon
and cerato is like, pseudo mid, which is where yuta would be probably
indigo sun
Not every dino
daring bramble
question but, how is the group hunting buff gonna work, cause when I read it I thought of it like how rpg use buffs lol
civic carbon
they are def not
daring bramble
so it is like how rpg buffs work, you just get it?
no, I never reacted to anything
left nacelle
Is a bad thing
daring bramble
I'm just mainly confused with the buff thing is why I don't wanna really react
barren zephyr
Awesome suggestion, Hyena cerato 👍 👍 👍
daring bramble
cause it seems like a weird feature but I haven't the game to know if any of the other dinosaurs had that kind of thing in packs
indigo sun
Or vixen just wasnt a fan in general and it wasnt just the buff thing
But no one else knows but vixen
slow snow
Thank you, arc 
indigo sun
Oh actually yeah it was someonr else
daring bramble
idrk, I'm more inbetween with the suggestion
left nacelle
I don't think the suggestion's that bad. It's just that tons of people ask for yutyrannus, and someone already made a really good and well thought out yutyrannus suggestion
daring bramble
also isn't a yuty smaller then an allo?
sonic cloud
Give Allosaurus a feathered skin and you have a Yutyrannus. People seem to take the fact that it’s a tyrannosauroid as being similar to albertosaurus, when it pretty much resembles a feathered Allosaurus with a nasal ridge
daring bramble
ah
sonic cloud
“Resembles” was the key word there but ok👌
indigo sun
It really resembles an allo more
sonic cloud
It may be more closely related to tyrannosaurus and albertosaurus, but from a physical standpoint, it resembles Allosaurus a great deal.
indigo sun
brave jasper
Tyrannosauroid or not it is going to function as an allosaurus but with feathers
daring bramble
if it resembles the allo more, then why not just have a skin of a feathered allo to represent it??
sonic cloud
You literally suggested a grab attack for it, it’s an Allosaurus clone
brave jasper
Its a dinosaur that is popular and gets suggested alot same with torvosaurus but the similarities it has with existing dinosaurs means that it has a low chance become anything more than just a skin option at best
indigo sun
Allo will get "huggies" according to don
sonic cloud
That’s literally what allosaurus is getting
So would being an alt-skin for Allosaurus
As a skin, sure
daring bramble
then just having a feathered skin for the allo would be the best option for it in the end
sonic cloud
I mean you could go a step further and remodel the head as well
left nacelle
Yeah, exactly
They wanna do that with a few different animals. One of the things the devs said is a Carchar skin for Giga as DLC
Nikson, you aren't understanding
That's not what we're saying
sonic cloud
I don’t get why people would hypothetically be opposed to Yutyrannus being an alt-skin for Allosaurus when that’s literally how it would function as it’s own playable
daring bramble
well, the game isn't exactly irl accurate Nikson
indigo sun
The yuty would be a skin for the allo meaning it wont just be allo with feathers its an alternate version that makes allo into a yuty
sonic cloud
^
left nacelle
^^^^^^^^^^
feral wedge
You also can’t gauge irl accurate with an extinct species that we don’t even have an enormous amount of information on.
daring bramble
you'd still be getting the yuty as a playable dinosaur it'd just function like an allo since that's pretty much what it is from what I've read??
sonic cloud
You seem to have trouble understanding the point of Yutyrannus being an alt-skin
feral wedge
Sees a human skeleton
Ah yes, this man wore prescription contacts.
left nacelle
@barren zephyr That isn't what we're saying. We're saying that for DLC they could make a skin that looks like the yutyrannus but it's actually an allo. It would look and sound completely different
feral wedge
indigo sun
Its still a YUTYRANNUS. The animal isnt special, its only special characteristic is its feathers. If you make it a skin for allo that doesnt mean they stuck feathers on an allo its changing the model and sounds but it'll behave the same because the thing isnt gonna behave all that differently
sonic cloud
^
left nacelle
Think of it kinda like how currently alberto and sub rex are the same except for their look and sounds and stats
Except the stats remain the same
sonic cloud
^
feral wedge
Or similar.
The monumental work required to make an entirely separate thing that’s essentially just a slightly different looking clone in functionality is inefficient. They could just give the “skin” dinosaur a stat nudge to be slightly different, if anything..
covert birch
The thing is yuty, as an animal would literally just be the same as allo playstyle wise with very very slight stat variations
DUe to that it doesnt work as its own playable cuz its literally an allo clone, but with feathers
As a skin (by skin not like a color you pick but more closer to a costume for the allo which makes it yuty) it would work
daring bramble
You'd still get that if it were a skin, wouldn't you??
covert birch
Yes you want that, but yuty as an animal doesnt work in the isle since its the exact same playable as allo but feathers
feral wedge
You’re not understanding that those options would probably persist if it were to come into existence in that manner. It’s not a hat.
strange wave
the problem is that you guys just want it to be a allo skin but me i want it to be a dino in the game like a rex juvenile that you can choose or utah juvenile me i want it to be like that like Yutyrannus juvenile that all
@barren zephyr this is kind of what they want, it is another dinosaur that is a customizable skin a juvenile but it will play the exact same as allo so have it be a costume for the allo
icy lion
im pretty sure if skins are a thing theyll be color-customizable
covert birch
Cuz yuty is literally the same thing as allo
indigo sun
Yuty really isnt unique enough to justify it being a whole ass thing on its own.
covert birch
^
strange wave
but why a costume heh?
@barren zephyr because it wouldn't be different from allo
covert birch
Feathers =/= mechanically, nichewise, playstyle wise different
icy lion
just like how i want puru costume for deino and carchar for giga. no reason to add them as new dinos even though i want to
indigo sun
The thing that makes it unique is feathers and that hardly justifies a whole other playable
daring bramble
I mean, having it as a costume would be better then not having it at all if you really want it that bad imo
strange wave
i don't care it will have a completly different gameplay
@barren zephyr how
covert birch
Your suggestion made it have a very similar gameplay to allo
Especially since you wanted it have a grapple attack n such
sonic cloud
If it doesn’t have a grapple attack what does it offer?
covert birch
Nikson, then that just makes it a worse allo
Give it something which makes it unique
strange wave
okay so atleast it wont have a grabble
@barren zephyr then whats special about it
covert birch
Something that makes it not a clone
daring bramble
question, but does anyone know if the stago is gonna have a silverish skin with a blue and black pattern on the spikes? or if it already has that skin color
sonic cloud
A skin gives you Yutyrannus, it doesn’t need to be its own playable
feral wedge
@random imp Don’t jab.
random imp
Find a unique niche and mechanic that make Yuty one of a kind Playable dino
I'm not jabbing, i just can't stand this kind of people, sorry Gar.
feral wedge
It can be irritating, believe you me, but insults and flaming/flamebaiting I’ll not tolerate.
random imp
Understood.
strange wave
oh... here come repost number?
sonic cloud
4?
feral wedge
Reasoning it out is usually an optimal solution.
pastel panther
Nikson there is an edit feature
feral wedge
Usually. 
pastel panther
you don't have to copy paste it each time
sonic cloud
An animal that large jumping is breaking ankles
covert birch
So your saying give yuty pounce?
sonic cloud
Yutah
icy lion
@daring bramble stego will be color-customizable. unless youre talking about the patterns, which we'll get much much later
sonic cloud
That sound like a pounce
strange wave
The Yutyrannus mechanich would be a he can grab like a utah in the air and then start biting him
@barren zephyr that is... not great
it is just a pounce counter
random imp
Meh, honestly i can't see Yuty work. Grab mechanic? Already i there and will be a common ability. Pounce? Already raptoroid's ability.
strange wave
just like if a utah jumps into the horns of a trike
sonic cloud
Besides a 3.5 ton animal jumping is not going to end well for it’s ankles
daring bramble
@icy lion Ah, okay okay thank you!
covert birch
A pounce counter?
that exists in multiple things already
feral wedge
Sounds like anything with the appropriate size could do that. Filipe already had a basal test version working with Trike.
strange wave
i said he will pick a utah then start biting
@barren zephyr so he can bite a utah?
icy lion
thats grappling, which also exists
random imp
He could hold down the prey with the mouth and scratch it witu the claws, but it will work only for smaller things...
feral wedge
What like a fruit at the market? Just nick him off the docks?
daring bramble
like any carno?
feral wedge
strange wave
he can grab the utah and start biting it
@barren zephyr so he can counter a fail pounce like everything larger than a utah
daring bramble
or do you mean like physically picking it up and eating it?
feral wedge
I think he means with its hands?
daring bramble
oh with the hands?
covert birch
So body dragging but hte thing is alive
strange wave
not with his hand with his jaws
@barren zephyr body dragging is a thing
sonic cloud
That’s literally every carnivore though
feral wedge
Oh so like everything else, yeah.
brave jasper
Oh so like a wild thrashing type attack?
daring bramble
does any carno have a thrashing attack?
icy lion
like a cat going nuts and flailing around? id like it
covert birch
No vixen
strange wave
does any carno have a thrashing attack?
@daring bramble not currently
covert birch
Carno is gonna get velocity based damage iirc
daring bramble
wow really?
strange wave
but a doubt any of our 20ish carnivore won't thrash
icy lion
we dont know about thrashing, just that allo will have grapple and other things will having pinning/pouncing interactions with collisions
sonic cloud
Pretty sure any carnivore can kill an animal by shaking its head from side-to-side
covert birch
Yea no mention for carno doing a thrash
Ok nikson, weve covered unique mechanic
Now nichewise how is it different to allo
sonic cloud
That’s not a unique mechanic though
covert birch
Thrashing we havent been told any animal can do
sonic cloud
Pretty much any mid tier can thrash
strange wave
i mena he can drag an alive a utah and start bitting him
@barren zephyr isn't this what was mentioned for alberto?
sonic cloud
It’s literally shaking it’s head from side to side
icy lion
i dont think dragging a living player will be allowed, sounds like itll cause issues
sonic cloud
Doing a basic head and neck motion is not something that deserves to be an ability
covert birch
Atoka, no animal we know of can do that to a live prey
sonic cloud
It’s a uniform thing
covert birch
Its all just body dragging
daring bramble
I mean it sounds interesting, especially if the player could try to get loose but it'd probably be tough to program something like that
strange wave
nikson mentioned a grabbing alive prey and eating it, isn't that what don wanted for alberto
covert birch
No bork
feral wedge
He wants ARK Megalosaurus
covert birch
Dondi never said what he wanted for alberto
frosty crystal
i think so
strange wave
oh
sonic cloud
For Alberto gar?
strange wave
Dondi never said what he wanted for alberto
@covert birch really? i swear he did
covert birch
Dondi just said
Alberto has a unique mechanic
Then never commented on it
icy lion
all i know is that alberto is getting some unknown "unique mechanic"
feral wedge
This dude for Yuty. Idk what Don’s said about Alberto.
frosty crystal
every dino is getting a unique mechanic
feral wedge
Ahaaaa progress
icy lion
that sounds hard to deal with server and program-wise
frosty crystal
give yuty fear roar like in ark
sonic cloud
I don’t know why a very basic movement should be considered a unique ability
icy lion
dragging a ragdoll body sure, but a living player? idk
frosty crystal
i'm joking
sonic cloud
Next someone’s going to suggest an animal by suggesting that an animal should be able to walk from side to side and call that a unique ability
Like no, that’s basic movement
unborn quail
have we already told him that yuty is smaller than allo and Alberto or nah?
icy lion
now THATS a whole nother conversation
covert birch
Weve already told him yuty is an allo clone but no mention on size doc
icy lion
and weve said thats probably gonna cause too many issues to be added
unborn quail
Ah
icy lion
we talked about size earlier
pale sorrel
@daring bramble The Stego is being re-implemented in the recode. It won't be the same one as we have now in Sandbox
unborn quail
Well Yuty itself is just over 1200kg so
sonic cloud
Size has only been mention when the fact that it’s oversized has come up
unborn quail
Dunno where you got 3500kg
icy lion
ya yuty is little
unborn quail
feral wedge
Oh so not even an Allo skin. 
covert birch
Fresh adult allo skin
sonic cloud
^
icy lion
same length supposedly, just skinny i guess lol
covert birch
Ehh for skins i never cared about size
Just clones
unborn quail
It's an animal closer to size in bary
feral wedge
So Alberto to Rex. Lol
daring bramble
@pale sorrel oh yea, I know that, I just wasn't sure if that kind of skin was already brought up by someone else or not
frosty crystal
Well Yuty itself is just over 1200kg so
@unborn quail really ? damn
feral wedge
Yuty to Allo
unborn quail
yee
pale sorrel
Ah right. No worries then 😄 I'm sure we'll be able to create a skin like that once the dinosaur is re-implemented. 🙂
unborn quail
I'm gonna start cataloging suggestions like this and have size charts of those animals made
covert birch
And while i think thrashing can be done in a way to make it a unique mechanic
Yuty itself imo should still be kept to a skin for allo, just size buff it cuz who cares bout skins
unborn quail
Yuty is first, probably have it done soon
sonic cloud
Please do nova
covert birch
Yuty has been suggested so many times so would be best for first
And you have torvo done already iirc
daring bramble
Ooo yes, I really thought it looked pretty cool on the Stego when I saw the picture so I had to bring it up lol
unborn quail
And one for Saurophaganax
icy lion
tarbo as well?
unborn quail
Mhm
frosty crystal
deinocheirus ?
frosty crystal
covert birch
Will you ever add flyers to the chart?
strange wave
murder sea gull
icy lion
all of the tiny flyers people have mentioned. ALL of them
frosty crystal
this is kinda becoming general discussion
unborn quail
Maybe, I'd need to reach out to Sassy or someone else and get permission, since he makes the best side view skeletal out there
And yeah
Out we go
strange wave
add yi qi and microraptor and the fucking ant somebody suggested
@barren zephyr we dont
indigo sun
Boi get a fuckin ice pack from your freezer and chill
left nacelle
@barren zephyr Suggesting the same animal over and over is a good way to get banned. Might wanna be careful
night latch
@barren zephyr people @ you because they’re quoting your stupid ass lmao
indigo sun
You just keep reposting your suggestion
Its not gonna make anyone like the idea any more
left nacelle
But you keep reposting it. You don't need to do that. There's no reason to. It's just annoying
sonic cloud
Mods can see them all @barren zephyr
icy lion
yea mods'll see 5 of the same post and get weirded out
night latch
This is the third time arguing about Yuty, yeah?
sonic cloud
5th
brave jasper
tbh it just seems like flame baiting
night latch
5th?!
sonic cloud
No it’s less malicious Nat
left nacelle
We aren't even arguing about Yuty, we're arguing about that fact that Nikson keeps reposting the same suggestion
brave jasper
Ah ok
night latch
Yeah
I don’t word things well
strange wave
6th now
daring bramble
lol
sonic cloud
You just got Yuty’d
icy lion
slap a feather slider on allo and call it a yuty
left nacelle
I was neutral on Yuty but now I don't want it at all
sonic cloud
^give it a slight head remodel
daring bramble
^ same
night latch
I think if we at him about 4 times then stop he goes away
It’s like banishing a demon
icy lion
no, thats just rude
daring bramble
valid zephyr
<@&401466542140817419> Is constantly deleting and reposting the same suggestion every time it's downvoted allowed?
sonic cloud
He’s obviously quite young or doesn’t speak English well
strange wave
in come number 7
valid zephyr
People just need to accept some of their suggestions will be downvoted. It's happened to me loads.
sonic cloud
Keeps upvoting his own suggestions as well
icy lion
OH FOR FUCKS SAKE CARCHAR
valid zephyr
i'm dying
sonic cloud
Aww he graduated
indigo sun
Carcha's legit just giga
left nacelle
@barren zephyr The devs have already said that Carchar will be a giga skin
daring bramble
Charca?
icy lion
now we're gonna have the exact same argument but replace allo with giga and yuty with carchar
sonic cloud
Giga with different head
indigo sun
It doesnt even have feathers to make it different its the same thing
icy lion
isnt juvie giga literally a carchar model that was repurposed?
daring bramble
this has to be trolling now right?
indigo sun
Yeah
feral wedge
@barren zephyr Leave that one up and stop reposting it.
agile moat
We don't hate the suggestion , we hate the fact that you re-posted it over 5 times after getting downvotes.
night latch
^
strange wave
and its gone
sonic cloud
Origins of Carcharodontosaurus
God: Hey babe it’s 4pm time for your head flattening
Giga: sighs* yes honey
valid zephyr
yuty isn't actually an allo skin. It's way smaller and could be very different. Like a large juvie rex.
left nacelle
Nikson was also begging people to vote on it in here for like half an hour after he posted it which was also annoying
night latch
Yuty can be unique-ish if given different mechanics, like in ark, but that’s not how this game works
strange wave
if a temperature system was added for a snowy area yuty cryo and pachyrhino could be very good
left nacelle
Yeah but Dondi already said he doesn't wanna do temperature, for animals at least
night latch
True, they would definitely be good there
sonic cloud
Was wondering why I couldn’t see it
daring bramble
^
sonic cloud
Was it a Yuty request?
left nacelle
I hope it stays gone this time. I'm always excited to read suggestions and it's annoying coming back and just seeing the same massive paragraph
covert birch
suggestions are always fun
Sadly this happens
left nacelle
It was the same Yuty paragraph and then he suggested Carchar without any sort of details about it
covert birch
sad
left nacelle
@sonic cloud
sonic cloud
Got it
strange wave
@feral wedge here it comes
left nacelle
I think it's funny how he suggestion the one animal that's basically confirmed to be a skin
torn thistle
Does he add anything after deleting it?
sonic cloud
An actual suggestion
left nacelle
Woah he actually posted a different suggestion
strange wave
oh wow it isn't the yuty
safe galleon
snow doesn't really make sense since it's a tropical island
left nacelle
The timer means it's coming
feral wedge
Ah yes. The classical, “giv tree”
strange wave
atleast it isn't yuty
indigo sun
Redwoods are planned to return
left nacelle
So we will have more biomes in the future, but the maps that are coming will be tropical
indigo sun
Any colder maps would likely be modded in
strange wave
when i say snow biome i mean like a map only snow and dirt
@barren zephyr snow biodome is soft confirmed
torn thistle
I personally would prefer something akin to a forest in Alaska
indigo sun
Oh forgot the biodome
Well theres a chance but most of the future maps will be tropical
mighty girder
well Spiro and Spero are tropical, Dun might not be
strange wave
ooo i thought to soon
left nacelle
Snow biome doesn't mean new animals
torn thistle
I don't think temperature is going to be a major issue for dinosaurs, outside of them stepping in lava
or around lava
indigo sun
I'd love to see a rain shadow kinda desert on at least one of the mals
left nacelle
You've talked about Yuty enough. Some people actually wanted Yuty but your suggestion spam makes them not want it
night latch
Nikson we don’t want u talking about it because you’ve suggested it around 13 times
strange wave
or you guys just don't want me to talk about the Yutyrannus being added because of a snow map/biome
because you reposted the same thing six times
feral wedge
New Zealand forest would be optimal
left nacelle
If you ask about Yuty tomorrow, people will just get upset again
night latch
Either I’m having a stroke or your not speaking right
Or I’m dumb, there’s a very high possibility for that
sonic cloud
Young or English isnt his main language
indigo sun
Spreading out your spamming suggestions doesnt make people want em any more.
left nacelle
A snow biome suggestion would be good, although that's a pretty common suggestion
and the maps that are coming will be tropical so it won't make much sense
night latch
Biomes, yes, I would love biomes, but just don’t spam suggestions
agile moat
suggest and request are 2 different words with 2 different meanings. I feel like it's a basic request
But in the end it's true, desert/snow biomes are classics that always fit videogames
torn thistle
Plus... adding an animal specifically for a single biome in a game with tropical maps and maybe other biomes in the future isn't really worth it in the long run.
night latch
No
Don’t
indigo sun
Just dont suggest yuty again
left nacelle
No need to suggest Yuty at all. You already did multiple times
indigo sun
You did it 7 times.
daring bramble
wait there's gonna be a snow biome in the future?
sonic cloud
“Let’s lock out all other animals because I need this animal to work”
indigo sun
Itll make people dislike it further
torn thistle
Emphasis on "maybe"
night latch
That doesn’t change anything
left nacelle
No, just leave it at the snow map
daring bramble
we just don't wanna see a yuty suggestion at all anymore, Nikson
indigo sun
You're still suggesting the same shit just adding on a map to specifically make it work.
left nacelle
I assume English isn't your first language? If it isn't, you still have really good English. it's a hard language to learn
agile moat
Then why reposting suggestions that get downvoted.. It's what i did when i was 13 on another game many years ago ngl
left nacelle
Ah
night latch
Oh
That makes more sense, you are doing quite well, it’s a horrid language to learn lmao
agile moat
oh another baguette comrade
night latch
O
left nacelle
🥖
night latch
confusion
left nacelle
I think you're a bit too young for the game in general, but I'm not gonna stop you
torn thistle
Lets just move on, please. No more arguing about whatever this is, no more spamming Yutyannus suggestions
agile moat
But he wants to re-add it with the snow biome tomorrow Bhaltair.
left nacelle
And Nikson, you upvoted your own suggestion again
agile moat
torn thistle
A fully fleshed out snow / tundra biome would be fine, but adding a new animal strictly for a single map biome isn't a good idea in the long run
sudden hinge
Cera is going to be the best hyena class carnivore out there lol I can’t wait to run things down to exhaustion and break bones
torn thistle
and Nikson, please settle down
left nacelle
It's an adult game tho Nikson. It's gonna have tons of horror elements and disturbing things in it when it's done
agile moat
It has come out of the devs' mouths themselves, that this game is not for young people at all, right now maybe yes on the legacy branch but it's aiming for something that's not
left nacelle
I'm not telling you to stop loving dinosaurs, I'm just saying
torn thistle
Please, lets steer things elsewhere
icy lion
its... aquatic....
strange wave
ok first if the spino was added when a desert map was added it would be freaking cool as the spino lived in the desert
@barren zephyr um...
it lived in the furthest thing from a desert
left nacelle
The area spino lived in is a desert today but it wasn't when it lived
strange wave
it lived in the north africa
@barren zephyr north africa then was a swamp
left nacelle
North Africa was a river system back when Spinosaurus lived
torn thistle
Grim Expanse was a modded map, not an official.
icy lion
has there been any word on how many maps devs are looking to have? so far i know 3: spero, spiro, and thenyaw
night latch
Thought v3 was also coming back?
left nacelle
Nah, V3's gone
night latch
What
Noo
icy lion
didnt they say they already trashed the backend files lol
torn thistle
I feel this should steer towards #401464048610312195 at this point
icy lion
true
daring bramble
snow dino?
night latch
Listen, I know jack shit about Dino’s but I cannot think of a single unique one that lived in redwoods lmao
icy lion
we're not getting mammals
covert birch
Dire wolf was a shitty mod
Only admins could play the wolf and the wolf 1 shot spinos
night latch
Wolf one shot pues
covert birch
Cryo has multiple issues
daring bramble
oh I love cryo actually but would that work?
daring bramble
I figured it'd be considered a clone to something
covert birch
heres the thing
Mono was put in the small tier roster
Meaning that its place is malleable i guess? Not sure how to word it
Cryo would be higher up, in the cerato bary megalania carno area
So adding cryo would just be adding something like dilo but a midtier
Which is just fucking over dilo
torn thistle
Cryo would work better as an alt skin for Dilo, if anything
covert birch
Cryo would work better as an alt skin for Dilo, if anything
^
daring bramble
Give me the Cryo alt skin then
covert birch
Yuty didnt have new gameplay
You just gave a mechanic which can apply to anything
And said thats a unique animal cuz feathers
Then you suggested carchar
Which is already confirmed as a giga alt skin
if they decide to do alt skins*
icy lion
it isnt just size and ability, its appearance too. mono is smaller than dilo and is visually different. allo and yuty are the same general length and much more similar
covert birch
A skin, you can use to make your allo lets say look like yuty and be called yuty instead
icy lion
or choosing to play a deino, but you look like a purussaurus
covert birch
How is that a problem nikson?
Cuz that literally solves the dilema of
"I want yuty ingame but its a smaller allo clone"
torn thistle
Just make Yuty an Allo alt skin, boom
daring bramble
but it's mechanics are like the allo
torn thistle
Alt skins probably would have altered calls, who knows
covert birch
They would
dondi said diff appearence and calls
That wouldnt be an alt skin then
thats its own playable
strange wave
if the alt skin have his own animation, call, stats and mechanichs i will say yes it ok
@barren zephyr stats won't happen
covert birch
It would have same mechanics, stats
But diff look and calls and anims
icy lion
alt skins are cosmetic only
strange wave
then it would be p2w
covert birch
THen your outa luck
slow snow
Puru skin for deino would be cool because I prefer the jaws of puru
icy lion
and then we're back to the issue of it being an allo clone
covert birch
Cuz yuty doesnt bring anything new to the table
Its literally allo but smaller
And the unique mechanic you provided (thrashing) is so broad that multiple things can have it
And you didnt provide any other diff gameplay wise
(unique mechanic =/= unique gameplay)
Umm
daring bramble
not all the time tho
strange wave
we can try and see if they will put it i mean every thing can happen you know the dev pick dino that there comunity suggest.
@barren zephyr no they dont
covert birch
Devs literally did the opposite of that with magy XD
torn thistle
Not really, no
covert birch
Everyone suggests amarga
Magy outvoted it
strange wave
by that logic fursuit spino would be confirmed
slow snow
Yuty has a faster resting than other dinos, faster and better nesting are really the only things I can think of that would differentiate it from allo
icy lion
if a whole new dino is gonna be added id rather it be more unique, like presto
strange wave
yes they put the comunity dino that they suggested but the dev also can also put the dino they want
@barren zephyr which dino
daring bramble
Yea, but that doesn't mean the devs will put the suggested dino in the game just because it was suggested
covert birch
Rugops has an old model
but the animal was replaced by cerato iirc
Psuedo midtier scavenger
strange wave
which dino was community voted
torn thistle
I mean, there's been animals that have been fully tossed out. Like Dakotaraptor
covert birch
No animal was put in just b/c of the community i guess is a good way to put it
slow snow
“If they have enough money” that could be said for almost anything
icy lion
yea thats the problem tho, each dino is $7k (or is it 21?)
covert birch
7k
left nacelle
$7k+
torn thistle
7-10k or so
slow snow
Jesus really?
daring bramble
damn
torn thistle
Modeling, sounds, animations, etc.
icy lion
and time
left nacelle
Probably more than 7k now since the animals are more complex now than when that was said
torn thistle
It's expensive
slow snow
Bless up for the isle devs then
daring bramble
^
covert birch
And yuty is a great example for something they wouldnt spend that outside of a skin
Cuz its to allo as tarbo is to rex
icy lion
i mean, even alt skins wont be cheap. model, textures, sounds
left nacelle
@slow snow You've got the different life stage models, the now 100+ animations for each animal, the different calls and variations, the programming, etc. A lot goes into it lol
frosty crystal
want yuty ? wait for mods to come back. Simple.
torn thistle
Anyway, there's a multitude of things one has to consider when suggesting a creature:
-Gameplay + mechanics that make it stand out from the current dino cast
-How it fairs in the game in general, not locking it in some biome-specific gimmick
-Not practically being a clone of an already existing animal (ex. suggesting Mapusaurus when Giga exists)
valid zephyr
yuty isn't close to allo imo. It's less than half the size.
it's like alberto to rex.
covert birch
Comrade it would function exactly like allo
But psuedo midtier
slow snow
Yea I know it’s a lot that goes into them but I didn’t know it was 7k$+
strange wave
Anyway, there's a multitude of things one has to consider when suggesting a creature:
-Gameplay + mechanics that make it stand out from the current dino cast
-How it fairs in the game in general, not locking it in some biome-specific gimmick
-Not practically being a clone of an already existing animal (ex. suggesting Mapusaurus when Giga exists)
and if the unique mechanic can be abused to the point of greifing
daring bramble
would the rhabdodon be a clone to something?
covert birch
that would fall under if its fair bork
valid zephyr
imo yuty would basically be a permanent max juvie rex
covert birch
its not
icy lion
half the weight
strange wave
imo yuty would basically be a permanent max juvie rex
@valid zephyr oh speaking of nanotyrannus
covert birch
Yuty
1200 kg
Allo
2800kg
strange wave
@valid zephyr sub rex or higher
the fuck it would, its barely bigger than a cerato
covert birch
Cerato
1050 kg
strange wave
it not barely it bigger than the cerato
@barren zephyr barely
covert birch
Nikson remember we are using kg and your are using lb
It may look like yuty is bigger but it isnt
slow snow
Yuty has a light build to be fair but I can’t see it being added
covert birch
1,414 kg is half the sizze of allo buddy
icy lion
no?
left nacelle
Weight is how you measure size
covert birch
left nacelle
Weight = Mass = Size
icy lion
in the current game weight IS health. thatll change but it goes to show how important it is
left nacelle
I'm taller than a cow. Doesn't mean I'm bigger than it
valid zephyr
Mass is the correct way of measuring size.
slow snow
If the cow is on all fours 
daring bramble
imagining a cow standing on two legs is concerning
covert birch
Maia but a cow
daring bramble
picturing it as a maia is less concerning and more cute actually
slow snow
bipedal cow
daring bramble
omg
left nacelle
OKAY TOO FAR
frosty crystal
LOL
daring bramble
DON'T RUIN MAIA FOR ME
slow snow
covert birch
I forgot who made that orgiinally
strange wave
DON'T RUIN MAIA FOR ME
@daring bramble you can't ruin satan
icy lion
new suggestion: dinos become mammals so we dont have to fill nests, they just get food from being near us pog
left nacelle
He did it again
strange wave
god fucking damn it
covert birch
new suggestion: dinos become mammals so we dont have to fill nests, they just get food from being near us pog
frosty crystal
daring bramble
covert birch
its not the exact same paragraph at least
slow snow
Why
daring bramble
yea true but the yuty was suggested again
slow snow
Nikson please
alpine zinc
Someone recommends 'Snow' Biome Everyone who pays attention, "The Devs said 'NO'!"
indigo sun
adding a whole map to justify the existence of one animal seems to just waste more money than adding the animal in the first place
strange wave
do we @ gar?
covert birch
no
torn thistle
Right, well
left nacelle
In a way this is worse cause he didn't provide any mechanics this time. He basically said "I want biomes. Oh! and add this animal please"
frosty crystal
why do i feel like same thing is gonna happen with yuty with the once again meme
icy lion
:/
slow snow
Again advocating for yuty tho
icy lion
id rather have snowy sections of a map than a whole snow map
daring bramble
it looked more like you suggesting a yuty release with the biome reading it
torn thistle
Right, well
covert birch
They wont add a snow map
And specifically put yuty in there
icy lion
like its possible to have snow and desert with rainshadows and whatnot
torn thistle
He's gone for the moment
covert birch
ro'ed?
frosty crystal
nah
daring bramble
from the server?
strange wave
covert birch
nah read only it seems
daring bramble
ahh okay
slow snow
Thank you bhalt
left nacelle
Well it says he isn't in the server anymore
frosty crystal
^
covert birch
You can @ him
daring bramble
lol
covert birch
XD
slow snow
He’s back
left nacelle
Oh and he got a strike
icy lion
anyway. prestosuchus?
covert birch
but nikson
if you are still there, we get that yuty is one of your more favorited animals
But there are multiple glaring issues with adding it as a playable
icy lion
good boy. dog lizard
daring bramble
was he like timed out or something
daring bramble
presto?
left nacelle
No duh
covert birch
daring bramble
ooo croc boi
indigo sun
thats a cool dude
slow snow
Midget croc
covert birch
land crocodile
strange wave
big boi rausuchid
left nacelle
Ooooh
daring bramble
omg I just watched a dinosaur video with that boi in it and I already forgot the name
icy lion
too big
icy lion
whaaaaaaat
frosty crystal
oh ? really ?
icy lion
ah
covert birch
its longer tho
torn thistle
strange wave
if fasola had more material idk if i would like it more
frosty crystal
the longer the better
torn thistle
Back from ye olden TSL times
covert birch
1600 kg presto vs 1300 kg fasola
left nacelle
Is that for The Isle? Or was it made for TSL?
torn thistle
TSL
covert birch
TSL
icy lion
presto is cuter and has a better name tho
left nacelle
Gotcha
covert birch
Lemme see if i can get the outline me and kanga made
Medium Stamina/ Medium Stam Regen
Good Health/ Very Good Health Regen
Grapple Attack (can cause bonebreak) / Lunge attack (can do knockback)
Slow trot
Walk speed is average
Ambush speed is very very fast with a small duration
Fast food drainage.
left nacelle
Would be cool if presto was better in water than other creatures are, but still not nearly as good as other aquatics
past eagle
i feel like that last yutyrannus suggestion takes from ARK no?
strange wave
i feel like that last yutyrannus suggestion takes from ARK no?
@past eagle no it takes from suggestion spam
past eagle
that too i guess
frosty crystal
10meter fasola basically?
covert birch
Somethin of that manner iirc
frosty crystal
he long boi
daring bramble
what's a fasola again?
covert birch
other land croc
icy lion
dog croc
daring bramble
dog croc omg
icy lion
imo presto is better
frosty crystal
what about saurosuchus
covert birch
Presto is larger then it iirc
feral wedge
I love Fasola and Presto
covert birch
Personally i wanted to make presto into some kinda
"Lizard Tiger"
Basically using its weight and lunging at targets
Ambush predator who lunges
And maybe bonebreak if it has a grapple bite thing
If it wins a grapple that is*
daring bramble
I'd take presto or fasola tbh I love them both
frosty crystal
love dem both too
covert birch
Wanna know what else is a great land croc
Armadillosuchus
frosty crystal
wat
frosty crystal
lmao
daring bramble
covert birch
You chose literally the ugliest image for it
covert birch
Looks a lot less fugly ere
daring bramble
covert birch
but yea a minmi sized burrowing land croc omnivore who similar to honey badgers is very tanky for its size would work great imo
frosty crystal
yes
slow snow
That sounds great, blue
still temple
more non-dinosaur playables would be appreciated
paper oriole
Desmata, armadillo and presto would be a good trio giving each faction a land croc
icy lion
@light marlin current balance is irrelevant
light marlin
Wdym?
indigo sun
Everything is getting rebalanced
icy lion
look in #phase-two-archive
indigo sun
Using the current game to fix balance is useless because reworked and new mechanics will change shit completely
light marlin
So we can expect trike able to defend itself from rex because when recode comes out every herbi and carni will be rebalanced?
Restats, new mechanics etc
indigo sun
Yeah i imagine reworked bone break and collision will help first and foremost with that even without stat changes
left nacelle
They'll be more than rebalanced. Combat will be overhauled completely. Along with literally everything else in the game
indigo sun
It might take a little bit to get everything where it needs to be but post-recode we shouldnt have as many balance issues
left nacelle
If that's all you want from the recode then you probably don't know much about it
You aren't interesting in anything else that's coming?
light marlin
Yeh, i saw new dinos, i saw stream
Im hyped for deino especially
And for new stats
slow snow
Can’t trike already kill a Rex on its own lol
opaque blaze
But it shouldn't kill the Rex all the time, so...
left nacelle
But it should be able to kill a rex more than it currently can
iirc, trike can barely ever win against a rex
I should've phrased that differently. I should've said "not very often" instead of "not all the time"
opaque blaze
It should be 50/50 in a 1v1, also depending on skill
left nacelle
Yeah, and it isn't currently
I'm pretty sure a rex can literally face tank a trike
Which is probably why I barely ever see trikes when I'm playing nowadays
opaque blaze
Yeah, that ain't right
left nacelle
I don't exactly know what the issue is with trike that causes it to get crapped on by rexes tho. Could be health, weight, damage, no idea
vestal rune
I think trike vs rex should depend, if a rex walks up to a trike and starts face tanking it it should be like 90/10, if a rex managed to do a good ambush on a trike then I think it should be 35/65
left nacelle
Yeah that's fair
paper oriole
Trike is a slow animal who really has no choice but to fight, it should have favourable odds in a fight since it cant run away
opaque blaze
Or get in a group?
paper oriole
Hard to find a group when theres only one or two trikes on the map and not everybody uses chats
indigo sun
an animal shouldnt rely on a group to survive a one on one encounter with an animal it can puncture the lungs of by stabbing it in the chest
paper oriole
An animal who relies on groups to be viable at all is a bad animal
left nacelle
cough utah cough
paper oriole
Trike should be able to dish out devastating attacks head on
left nacelle
paper oriole
Utah doesnt beed a group to be viable shush lol
opaque blaze
Then don't attack head-on?
paper oriole
Predators shouldnt attack head on
left nacelle
Any animal two can't get around trike's horns should have a very hard time winning the fight imo. Unless they have some sort of body armor
paper oriole
If a rex is stupid enough to run into a trikes face it shouldnt live
barren zephyr
cerial box is here
left nacelle
paper oriole
I dont see corn flakes on there
barren zephyr
what ima suggest?
paper oriole
Suggest cereal for mercs
left nacelle
Don't say it
barren zephyr
yes ima