What is weird
#general-feedback-discussion
zenith onyx
I thought it was going to be bigger.
covert birch
nope
covert birch
Whoever told you that is an idiot
zenith onyx
yikes chill.
covert birch
Im chill
zenith onyx
mistakes are made.
covert birch
but i mean you can literally just look it up XD
zenith onyx
I guess i could have but i wasn't thinking about it so i didn't.
zenith onyx
Hey @covert birch what's the blue dryo looking thing in the size scale?
covert birch
camptosaurus
covert birch
Heres a bigger image
covert birch
Click the image
Should be larger
zenith onyx
ty.
ebon tiger
so Camptosaurus is as big as Dryo? interesting
zenith onyx
idk.
chrome basalt
@zenith onyx
What dinosaur were you referring to when you suggested that it could ‘spray inc’ or ‘fart to clog up sense of smell’
Because I am generally confused on how.. like. Just how. What were you thinking when you thought ‘ah yes, spray inc’. That sounds like a good idea’
indigo sun
I think they were talking about minmi
zenith onyx
I was reffering to the minmi.
left nacelle
@tranquil crown That won't be something to worry about after EVRIMA
tranquil crown
i dont think so
paper oriole
if a rex or giga tried to whip its tail at something it would probably stumble over
quadruped with long tails are the only ones whod really make sense doing that, or possible while sitting
covert birch
@tranquil crown tail whip isnt really needed with both locational damage and forced alt turn comin in
tranquil crown
k then
still temple
pygmy hippo minmi > skunk minmi
and how in the world does one mistake Tenonto for Iguanodon
random imp
some suggestions make my head hurt lol. at least dudes use google translate before writing something. anyway, yhea Tenonto and Iguanodon are two different creatures. Tenonto does not even have a thumb spike.
young pecan
I need my freshwater plesiosaur, Leptocleidus. The more I think about it, the more I like it.
I now have three suggestions I'm working on 
random imp
what is the point of a survival horror if you can read in advance the footsteps or the roars?
the point is to use sight and hearing to survive
native vault
for players using speakers
random imp
don't use speakers lol
i've been playing this game with speakers for years
never had a problem
native vault
yeah when every shop is closed bc of corona and no working headphones
don't use speakers lol
@random imp
random imp
🤷♂️
still i do not agree with that suggestion. having sound effect written down in a survival is dumb, even more in a horror game
dialogues are a thing, sound effects are another.
native vault
so my brother is playing fortnite (yeah) and he has this kind of setting on and its not a dialogue so i thought it would be handy
random imp
@thorny crag crouch is getting reworked, the dinos won't actually crouch anymore, they'll try to bend down closer to the ground. and crouch for herbies is not easy, quadrupedal ones can't crouch, and we have already the bipedal ones who can anathomically. for example theri won't be able to crouch, is too vertical compared to a creature like galli.
thorny crag
@random imp oh cool, ok yea I thought more about a sneak mode for quad dinos you know? like very slow, very silent walk also head more down and posture more tense
native vault
@random imp oh cool, ok yea I thought more about a sneak mode for quad dinos you know? like very slow, very silent walk also head more down and posture more tense
@thorny crag oh that would be pretty good imo, like, for an ambush
thorny crag
yea I mean obviously we get new animations and refined mechanics but still, would love herbies to get more options too
random imp
a " there is something big out there, better be careful" stance
yhea,if you put it that way it makes sense
thorny crag
Yea was ment like that
random imp
@raw wind don't discuss in the feedback channel, it can get you hammered
i suggest you to use some commas next time lol, it was hard to follow your text
raw wind
Sorry bout that i often forget to use punctuwation and i dont understand how comma's work dureing a sentence so i dont usually use then if i feel my point is clear enough
random imp
anyway, i understand your point, tho saying it to me won't fix anything, if you really feel ready and with a good speech you can write a suggestion, maybe if it is a good one and you explain how you'd fix the animations in detail and explaining your reasons, Bryan and Kissen will take you into consideration.
'cuz i feel too that some animations could be done " better"
raw wind
Yeah also at the very least let the poor juvi utah's touch the ground ;-; they have been floating for a vary vary long time
random imp
that is not an issue. this shit will be fixed with Evrima
do not focus on the current animations
focus on the new ones the devs put on #phase-two-archive
if you feel that the new ones need a little touch write a well thought suggestion
if you write a suggestion crying that the current animations are broken/ do not fit very well you are like the ones that did not understand anything about what's been appening since last year.
paper oriole
Fresh kills and plants should both provide a small amount of water by default imo
Moreso when it's raining
covert birch
iirc dondi mentioned things like corpses and some plants giving water when you eat them
tender latch
Bruh that cringe
Cactus giving water make sense tho
ebon tiger
what cringe?
and besides, most plants contain water. hell, in the wild, some small animals never need to drink, because they get all their water from plants they eat
lilac swallow
@valid zephyr It would be the first time i play female Dino if that did happens, assuming i would play magy at all
valid zephyr
I just think it could add some visual variation between the two genders.
lilac swallow
Its a nice idea
thorny lynx
Thoughts on my grazing suggestion?
paper oriole
About getting fat, what if all dinos could get fat but it's good for some and bad for others
25% is a fair amount for grass so you can hold off starvation a little better if preferred foods arent near when that mechanic comes
Like as a galli or tenonto you'd definitely not want to get fat, but a trike or anky may be willing to sacrifice some stamina to gain the extra bulk(health)
thorny lynx
So, grass can be nutritious, up to an extent! From an empty belly, you can graze up to 25% of your hunger meter, but you can begin to graze at 50% to temporarily halt hunger drain.
@thorny lynx
paper oriole
Perhaps grazing can be more or less beneficial depending on the herbi too, a stego would be able to get more food out of it than a trike
thorny lynx
Finally modified it.
paper oriole
A stego could get to 40% while a trike can only get to 25%
paper oriole
Like looking at stego's head, he looks like much more of a grass eater so it could be a staple
The corpse in the water mechanic is exploitable
A dryo could suicide in watering holes to make it undrinkable for shits and giggles
zenith onyx
I think the herbs like the galli, the Stego, tenonto and dryo should be grass grazers.
paper oriole
Just spam make dryos and taint every water source you can
zenith onyx
lol.
paper oriole
Like its one of those things that could work if people werent awful lol
ebon tiger
you'd need so much blood to contaminate a pond
like... a hundred human-sized bodies worth of blood
paper oriole
There'd def be people purposelly spam sacrificing themselves to ruin ponds
covert birch
@zenith onyx people used to make kamikazee dilo bleeder packs to kill people when sitting didnt stop bleed
People will do something like this for blood pool contamination
zenith onyx
No only cetain types of creatures that have a lot of blood only be able to. Guys like the trike or the para. allo, giga or rex.
the big guys.
ebon tiger
i could see some blood-cloud effects instead of blood splatters working in water, but actual contamination would just be excessive
scarlet steeple
Is there a limit on how many animals you can suggest
covert birch
you can suggest an animal
As long as you actually give mechanical/playstyle reasoning behind it
OTher than jsut saying
"please add X b/c its cool/unique lookin"
potent sparrow
Was there any mentions on if there was a way they were going to prevent gamma cheaters?
severe idol
There's some theories of ways from putting a 'bubble' around dinosaurs at night the diameter of their dark vision to tackling the exploiters and punching their knees to death.
There's no solid solution at the minute, maybe won't be one.
potent sparrow
yeah.
best way i could figure night vision could work is the bubble remains at all times without night vision, and it eventually gets dark enough that the game blacks out whatever you're not supposed to see.
not just darkens but blacks it out
i know that is unrealistic but
cobalt compass
someone did post a pretty cool suggestion about the gamma exploit, think it was yautiafett with her idea
this "engraved" vision looks pretty good
fallow hazel
@odd sundial to complete your idea maybe more ai will spawn if big territory ?
visual current
@odd sundial quick question, then if there's a lot of people on, and you spawn in someones territory, they find you defenceless and kill you. i also think territories sound like a good idea, but i was just wondering.
odd sundial
I don’t really know about the logistics of territory since it was just a suggestion but I like the @fallow hazel idea of that. In terms of your point @visual current I think to counter this territories could be shown on the map so if you spawn in when you could leave but as I said I’m not really sure of the mechanics
visual current
ah ok
vivid rampart
I really don’t like the engraved vision, personally. It would likely give me a headache and I find it to be visually distasteful. The game is so beautiful and I like how night vision works at the moment if only gamma cheating could be fully prevented somehow. That concept of night vision would make playing as a dilo less advantageous as it is now, and I do not think that it would have any great effect on gamma cheating either. Interesting concept of staying still making you harder to visually detect than it does now, but it also reminds me of the tyrannosaurus’ from Jurassic Park (which I love, but whose vision was definitely reduced compared to what paleontologists have stated)
harsh silo
@river quarry Skin colors can be saved while choosing a skin as presets
select a preset, choose colors, once u are happy with them, save the skin, the preset that was selected at first will use the specific skin colors u chose
native vault
@left nacelle love that! i was about to post a really similiar suggestion
left nacelle
I'm glad you like it! Feel free to add stuff if ya want 😄
lilac swallow
Different colors for males and females of your species would be a nice addition too when both are necesary for nesting @left nacelle
left nacelle
I was thinking that, but I feel like it get a bit confusing with so many different colors
covert birch
Imo having them all be the same color but making the differences in the foot shape appear more would be better
Since then youll actually have to learn what you are tracking instead of saying "oh its X" instantly after seeing the color
harsh silo
Akthough it's a nice suggestion if u look at the footprints closely after sniffing u can tell when some are herbivores, also if u can't tell when some are herbies I feel like following the footprints anyways for a potential hunt/threat makes it more exciting and tense
left nacelle
@covert birch I would agree, but with all the foliage on the ground right now and the way footprints work, it makes it really hard to tell the actual shape of footprints right now, unless they're huge ones
covert birch
thats why i said making the differences in the foot shape appear better
left nacelle
Oh sorry, I misread. But you wouldn't be able to tell exactly what it is just by the color, you'd only know it's diet
left nacelle
You'd know it's general size too, but it would be hard to tell exactly what it is until you look at the shape
covert birch
Yes thats the idea
Only experienced people would know what it is using the shape
Would incentivise learning stuff like footprint shape n such
left nacelle
Okay...? So what's the issue then? My suggestion still works out cause you'd still need to know the shape to tell exactly what it is
(Sorry if that sounds a tad rude btw)
covert birch
nah its fine
I just misread ya suggestion
left nacelle
I'll just clarify it a bit more then 🙂
covert birch
Imo tho you shouldnt know whether its a carni or herbi
Make what your hunting genrally unknown (other than size) until youve had plenty of experience
So I an allo can see multiple cerato footprint trails and mistake it for a dilo pack or maia herd
left nacelle
Do you mean when they player themself has enough experience or the animal?
covert birch
But then another experienced player who has made the same mistake will recognize oh that is cerato
the player themself
left nacelle
Maybe the more hours you have in the game, the more obvious the colors become
But idk if that's fair
covert birch
It isnt
Cuz game hours wont just decrease back to 0 post evrima
And that would reword lil kids who dont know how to play properly yet play 24/7 when schools done
Imo a overall better smell (getting info such as whether it has a broke bone, age, species, etc) can be put into a specific dinosaur as its own unique mechanic
Like what people are saying for mono since its got such a large nose
Or what people want for cerato
left nacelle
Oooooh that would be cool
I think that would work most for cerato or ptera since they're scavengers
well, cerato isn't really a savenger but ya get what I mean
icy lion
i think devs mentioned being able to crash and get injured, but i also heard mention of removing leg break. personally i feel leg break is interesting, and just needs some tweaks. maybe if you specifically hit the wing and not the body you could take less damage but have a much higher break chance?
zenith onyx
Maybe idk.
zenith onyx
that already happens @barren zephyr
covert birch
@barren zephyr you cant do it currently
But its confirmed that preening people n such is coming
paper oriole
Hard cooldowns are kinda bleh and unnatural feeling, diminishing returns like we have with jumping and soon with vocalising would be better
zenith onyx
that was random.
paper oriole
There is a suggestion for ability cooldowns
zenith onyx
yes.
barren zephyr
Thats awesome!!
blazing charm
@unborn quail You have that size chart that had Torvo? Need it for a sec.
unborn quail
blazing charm
Alright, thanks.
unborn quail
need anyone else on it
blazing charm
No no, just gonna leave my piece on this Torvo suggestion. They were using Acro and Sucho as a comparison and I wanted to check the size.
unborn quail
Weight for torvo is off too
only 3.2 tons for the larger individual, which is shown above
zenith onyx
I love this idea @tepid vigil! it's an awesome idea or concept.
Hope it gets the attention is deserves.
blazing charm
@tepid vigil While I applaud you for proposing a mechanic for Torvo, I personally am unsure if a "rage" mechanic is the best idea, it seems like something that could artificially turn the tide of combat, it seems like something that can be made better or worse by the ability to control it's deployment, or lack of control.
If it's controlled, you run the risk of people saving it until needed, if uncontrolled you run the risk of the ability hurting the Torvosaurus more than helping it.
zenith onyx
I think it's great because if your facing one. you'll never know when they're going to use it. Making it difficult for them and you. Timing. all about timing.
left nacelle
Yeah, but if it isn't controlled, then it could screw you over
blazing charm
Basically it's all of the current games RNG problems amplified.
covert birch
Imo if it was something you could activate it can be fine
But instead of a full on slow down after the time ran out it can be more of a the berserk thing just uses a shitton of stamina
left nacelle
I also think it doesn't fit into the game very well imo. Seems kinda strange for an animal to have a "rage" type of mechanic. Feels little too rpg for my liking
That's just me tho
covert birch
Well i mean you can make it act like its an adrenaline type thing
at least the name would be that
left nacelle
True
vestal rune
thing is, all animals release adrenaline when faced with a life or death situation
covert birch
True but maybe i guess with all the AE monsterification torvo can just have a shitton more adrenaline
left nacelle
But then if it's adrenaline, it would be strange if it was manually activated
covert birch
But makes ya tired
vestal rune
tbh I kinda feel the same as bluebird, I'd expect to see a "rage" mechanic in like a fighting game or RPG, not a generally realistic horror survival game
left nacelle
It could also be pretty easily abused
Activate it as you ambush at something and they're done for
vestal rune
ye, tbh I'd feel a mechanic like that would be better suited for a herbivore, and as a carnivore you'd have to work around that mechanic in order to hunt it
left nacelle
And torvosaurus just seems like a smaller giga
vestal rune
and we already have a smaller giga in the form of acrocanthosaurus
left nacelle
There's plenty of more unique dinosaurs out there that would fit just as well, if not better
Well yeah, but at least acro looks plenty different and sounds different
vestal rune
now for a smaller rex there is a very obvious choice 
left nacelle
blazing charm
Honestly, Torvo's more similar to Allo or even Alberto
left nacelle
I don't know much about torvo, but going by the picture it just looks like a giga
appearance wise
left nacelle
Oooh gotcha
blazing charm
Also it really doesn't look like Giga, tbh
left nacelle
To me it does, mainly cause of the small crests. Reminds me of Giga's old model AKA the current sub model
It's head is skinnier tho
covert birch
Imo the beserk mechanic itself isnt too abusable
if it just made you attack faster but your attacks during this time drain stam it wouldnt be much of an issue
left nacelle
To me tho it just seems weird, because why would an animal suddenly be able to get a boost of power that they can manually activate?
And if it isn't manual, people will abuse it to make it manual, either that or it'll hinder the creature
covert birch
True while it is weird that it is manual imo as a mechanic in itself it isnt that abusable
left nacelle
I think that depends on the power of it, the drawbacks, the duration, and the conditions where you can use it
left nacelle
That sounds good
covert birch
yea that works
left nacelle
But maybe it should only increase depending on the type of damage that is causing the health to decrease
like he shouldn't get the buff from starving
vestal rune
I still think that mechanic would be better suited for a herbivore
paper oriole
An herbi with berserk would be cool
One that works similar or maybe parental instinct based
left nacelle
Maybe tenonto could have it. It's this scary little thing but then it suddenly gets 5x scarier
I'm joking btw
covert birch
Maiasaurus becoming stronger the more kids it has
paper oriole
Lmao tenonto goes super saiyan
covert birch
it can run down carnos now
covert birch
It should only buff the parents tho obv
paper oriole
Maia could have multiple perks based around protecting and nurturing young
Maybe being able to incubate other herbivore nests, increasing hatchling-juvenile growth rates of nearby berbis by a bit, become more resiliant of a defender when protecting young
paper oriole
A defensive attack based adrenaline could work for diablo too since its a little devil
covert birch
maybe like diablo can prep itself to then unleash a torrent of attacks or somethin
paper oriole
It could gain attack speed when surrounded by more preds or something
Be able to really go wild and unleash that torrent
covert birch
yea but what would the game consider a pred
Allo sized and up?
paper oriole
Isnt diablo gettinf a downsize possibly
paper oriole
Guess it depends on where it lands in recode
Or enough numbers of smaller preds, diff amounts of diff sizes would be needed to trigger it
zenith onyx
no older features for games.
left nacelle
Legacy branch is a thing @silk bramble
river quarry
@harsh silo I know that, but I'm suggesting an option to replay as the same selections, without having to go through all that again, so we can respawn without all the hassle
harsh silo
ah, maybe u should make it more specific? I wasnt the only one that understood it the same way I did
river quarry
I thought I was being specific at the end, I was half asleep writing that anyway but that's what I mean
left nacelle
@river quarry Sorry if this sounds rude, but is hitting 4 buttons really that much of a hassle?
river quarry
I'm saying it would be quicker, cause I normally have the same colours, it would just make things quicker
left nacelle
Well yeah, but how would an option like that even be implemented? Like would it be in gameplay section of the options menu?
And how are would would the option go? Would it instantly respawn you after you die? Would you selected carnivore/herbivore and then you spawn? Would you select the creature and then it spawns you instead of taking you to the skin menu?
river quarry
Like when you get the "deceased" you have an option to respawn or something like that
covert birch
@barren zephyr pteradon is too small to be able to grab many things
It's about the size of a dryo. And its even weaker than one
indigo sun
Only thing a ptera's picking up and flying away with are broken hopes and dreams
left nacelle
Or maybe a piece of meat in its beak lol
paper oriole
What could epidex hunt other than at the most bugs? There are larger arboreals who could be added who are more than a snack to compy and basically nothing to anybody else
tepid vigil
@paper oriole I like that , I like that idea
paper oriole
What one lol
tepid vigil
@paper oriole The one about when your health decreases your attack speed increases lol
indigo whale
I can make another suggestion for the zheny I agree that epidex is small, and that's part of the reason I was hesitating to publish the suggestion
paper oriole
Epidex is cute but remember models cost a lot and they need to be able to survive somehow
paper oriole
He could drop/glide down ontop of juvies and small tiers to deliver a killing blow, boasting amazing fall damage resistance and the ability to glide, but be very fragile in a fight. An arboreal ambusher and scavenger
indigo whale
yeah much better tbh
paper oriole
Maybe modders can slip in some of the tiny guys eventually for low or no cost though lol
indigo whale
I thought the niche was interesting for my suggestion but the zheny seems like a much better choice
indigo whale
I feel like for the torvosaurus suggestion something like the giganotosaurus rage in ark would work, so if a torvo's health got low it would get an adrenaline rush or something
maiden holly
Idk why but the isle really needs a dimetrodon or a edaphosaurus, it just feels right now with tropical environment
languid crown
Aren't they more desert dwelling creatures
I just have this image of them hanging around this rocky canyon but that might just be my nostalgia thinking
maiden holly
Idk, i feel like they fit this new map
valid elk
Anyone wanna discuss my heron/digging Protoceratops idea
molten tulip
Basilosaurus is a mammal that existed way after the extinction of the dinosaurs
It was originally misinterpreted as a reptile, hence its misleading name, but it's definitely a mammal
indigo whale
@zenith onyx like this?
zenith onyx
Yes. like this but with limits like small juvs swimming up river that empty into the sea from large lakes and rivers.
indigo whale
That would be nice imo
zenith onyx
It would be great because in the future if they do add creatures like the mosa and the icthy. it would mean probably more enteractment with other players then just the oceanic ones.
indigo whale
yeah
zenith onyx
But it might or might not happen due to how big they might make those guys. in game.
@valid elk I think if a digging ceratopsian was added, it prob be a playable version of the ava getting an escape mechanic away from predators.
But they might add a protoceratops. idk.
valid elk
Protoceratops was confirmed as one of the new animals. @zenith onyx
zenith onyx
oh. nmd then.
that's cool.
Then your concept for that mechanic might work because there have been a few fossils where their remains were found in underground burrows and holes.
zenith onyx
i don't understand @cobalt compass
paper oriole
@silk bramble it's against suggestion rules to just say “add this”, you need to give them a reason to spend thousands on making and animating a deinonychus
covert birch
feather system is confirmed for distant future
silk bramble
coool
paper oriole
Like how it would function in the ecosystem differently than others, what special role it would play
covert birch
Wheat made a cool suggestion for deinonychus
silk bramble
just to look neat or cool the dino down if heat is added
paper oriole
Maybe when species skins come it could be a troodon skin or something if it's just for appearance
covert birch
Would be more of a velo skin if anythin
Dondi mentioned in the case they wanted to add something that is useless
Such as tarbo or carchar
silk bramble
that's neat
covert birch
they would just be a skin for X dino
So like since tarbo is literally rex it would be a rex skin
silk bramble
I would main carchar it used to be my favorite dinosaur
covert birch
carchar would be a giga skin for example
silk bramble
mhm
covert birch
Hell rn the juvi giga model was an old carchar model they had
silk bramble
would they have unique roars?
silk bramble
mmm
covert birch
Just an idea
paper oriole
In the least modders will probably add some popular dinos that the isle doesnt pick
silk bramble
aren't mods coming back?
covert birch
yea they are but in the future
silk bramble
cool, so I will be able to play terra vitae again?
covert birch
If they remake the terra vitae mod sure
silk bramble
YES
also someone told me that non survival dinos will get their old skins back
is that true?
covert birch
no
silk bramble
dangit
covert birch
well depends
Like some nonsurvival are TSL models
Which means they need an entire new model for it
barren zephyr
any of yall this my suggestion is good?
random imp
i'd hate seeing a PC map in TheIsle
'cuz i do not like PC to start with
or at least what became of it.
barren zephyr
is it the artstyle
covert birch
@wild trellis when suggestion an animal you must give a reason to suggest it other than
"add X please"
wild trellis
ohhhhhhhhh
covert birch
Also yuty is basically allo in a fursuit
Or alberto in a fursuit
wild trellis
my bad
covert birch
No real way to make it an actually unique playable imo
random imp
delete the "suggestion"
barren zephyr
mine?
random imp
no, the uty one
barren zephyr
oh
random imp
Yuty
barren zephyr
yeah i agree
covert birch
Also bout the Primal carnage stuff lore wise that all happened on another island iirc
So wouldnt make much sense to slap the docks from PC here
random imp
yep
covert birch
Not only that but iirc they gonna add their own docks on spero along with more human stuff
random imp
and the only thing that the isle is related to primal carnage are the companies
like AE
random imp
mmh the one on pc was a t-rex
barren zephyr
wdym
random imp
not a magna
covert birch
The magna rex just is similar to the PC rex
barren zephyr
Lorewise magnas = natures way of fighting back
@covert birch wdym by that
covert birch
Iirc a dev said that was natures way of fightin back
when describing the magnas
But like what that entails
🤷♂️
Prolly fightin against AE and its monsters
barren zephyr
ahhhhh
left nacelle
I always thought the magna's were like a more refined and "perfected" hypo, made by humans. I don't really keep up with the lore tho
indigo whale
@gaunt heart rivers will dry out
covert birch
@gaunt heart droughts n floods are confirmed
gaunt heart
good to know
kinda scary actually
@pliant vessel thats pretty much some idle animations
it would be cool to trigger them though
left nacelle
@pliant vessel A lot of the creatures already have those things as idle animations. Also ya might wanna change your name to fit with rule #6 in #rules-and-info. I actually had to copy and paste your name just to tag you
severe idol
I already 'fixed' the name.
covert birch
we got spino and beipi comin in
And sucho, bary, austro, minmi all live in the area of water
maiden holly
Im looking more for amphabian like dinos tho, somewhat
Like a koolasuchus
Or a diplocaulus
covert birch
@fallen matrix giant lamprey eels would be better imo for stuff that attaches to ya
also megapiranha swarms would be cool eatin swimmin dinos
its like 5x the size too
paper oriole
Rolling in corpses would be a good mechanic for cerato and troodon imo
Cerato could roll in rotten meat, especially
icy lion
i want cerato to be a carrion eating hyena so bad
paper oriole
Its a mod
Not official
Youll get it with the mod when it comes
(Just another rex strain anyway so overrated lol)
zenith onyx
really?
paper oriole
It's a fanmade strain
Yes
He paid for it, an independent animator and modeler made it
paper oriole
It will in the nycta servers in the future
zenith onyx
cool.
left nacelle
@fiery edge Not something you need to worry about. Dondi has already said that humans will have weak points
fiery edge
But about the number of teams/companys will there be multiple asking just to justify the most likely merc vs merc combat...
...multiple?* (i forgot the"?" Sorry)
ebon tiger
@Ultra Weeb#7864 as Blue said, a Lamprey is more like what you're describing. Remora don't drain food from their hosts. they just hitch a ride on other fish/whales/turtles/etc. and pick off scraps of food that the host drops
covert birch
@ebon tiger ultra weeb was banned cuz they pinged dondi
covert birch
It wasnt even there fault XD
People encouraged em
ebon tiger
:/
harsh silo
@radiant aspen to solve that problem developers added an infinite ocean, which means flying into it will be certain death since u wont reach any islands and you'd eventually run out of stamina while flying, glide down into the ocean and drown
radiant aspen
@harsh silo I am fully aware that they implemented infinite ocean to solve pteras from flying out too far, but my suggestion was referring to flying too high since I for one would be a player that is curious on how high I can fly the ptera and would find it disappointing to suddenly just bump into an invisible barrier in the sky and I also dont want to trouble the devs on adding a infinite sky.
harsh silo
indigo sun
@radiant aspen theres gonna be different types of venom. easier tracking was just an example dondi listed
left nacelle
@mint hawk Pretty sure Ptera sounds have already been made, maybe not all of them tho. They use Penguin sounds
mint hawk
Oo interesting thanks
zenith onyx
penguin sounds? which type of penguins?
zenith onyx
what type of penguin calls?
icy lion
i dont think we know
indigo sun
we havent heard them so we couldnt tell you
zenith onyx
sorry to ask then.
stoic merlin
Will there be different patterns in recode?
icy lion
devs mentioned having multiple skins per dino, but thats low priority
stoic merlin
Ok, ty
zenith onyx
THey also said possibly having new patterns added.
icy lion
thats what i said
zenith onyx
k.
barren zephyr
@valid zephyr maybe burrowing or stealing burrows?
maybe have animations where it uses its "wings" to turn and such?
valid zephyr
would rather keep it away from living underground, as there are so many small carnis on the ground already
several of which are popular candidates for burrow raiding
using its wings in its animations while moving is a definite good one.
I think basing its calls on eagles and hawks could work too
random imp
meh, it feels like a ripoff of the Saurian's Dakota
blazing charm
@valid zephyr Not bad, though personally I kinda think it'd be worth exploring a bit more of how the mechanics/abilities you proposed in greater detail.
Like how the tree latching ability would work, what it could be used for, so and so forth.
I feel there's a bit too much focus on the aesthetic features.
valid zephyr
Cheers.
Was thinking both the tree climbing and wall running would be used for both escaping predators, and finding a high point from which to dive on prey from.
with the wall running using stam to do
blazing charm
Concerning pouncing from vantage points, would you do that mechanically? I know it's a bit unfair but it's something I think is worth thinking about.
Would it be an aimable target zone, or would the player just pounce like usual, albeit with some kind of altitude buff?
valid zephyr
I though of being able to nest up in trees, but might be too far.
Was thinking it would be normal jump and pounce, but with ptera style 'gliding'
with a similar glide ratio to a brick as a full adult.
aka controling your direction and rate of descent to land where you choose
barren zephyr
back
But I wanted to point out that since doindi wanted a raptor able to make nests underground, maybe you could play on that to facilitate the integration of Deinonychus
blazing charm
Honestly, I did that for my Deinonychys suggestion, but I think we have enough burrowing creatures.
barren zephyr
heh, true, would "compete" with herrera
valid zephyr
there isn't much for tree and rock climbing animals at the moment, and leaning into the bird part would suggest it prefers to be high up
barren zephyr
they kinda discussed for herrera, I believe
but at this point, herrera is around Deinonychus size sooo, we'd have to see who gets what, I guess
zenith onyx
It would be cool to have a dart gun. There will be creatures that you just can't take on as a merc so it would be nice to have something that mihgt make taht players dino fall asleep or wooozy. speedy escape for you, deep sleep or nightmares for adult rex.
or other massive predators.
zenith onyx
@fluid plover They are adding a mechanic that allows you to see what egg you are about to receive. Not blind chance anymore.
fluid plover
Thats cool, but I figured we could give a bit more control to the player that'll allow them to bond better with there Dino and stop players from just committing suicide or egg hopping cause they don't like there dino style, or gender
strange wave
sounds fun
random imp
Nah, the Cool thing about hatching is that you don't know what colors and perk you'll have
If you have shitty partners, with dumb colors of useless perks, that's on you, you had to those better
Cuz in Evrima you'll be' able to see the species is inviting you to the nest and the parents's perks
So you'll have the cchoice ti accept or refuse base on something important
The colors tho will be random, a mix of he father and the mother, if they chose dumb colors that's unlucky for you.
To avoid hegg shopping i hope they'll put a "block", so you won't be' able to accept any nest invites 'till you are at least sub.
indigo sun
@drowsy wren please actually put effort into your suggestion instead of only saying the name. give the devs an actual reason to spend $7000 on an animal
drowsy wren
its just a suggestion... er a idea.. calm down lol
indigo sun
it says in the pinned messages that you cant just have "add x animal"
valid zephyr
You need to add details of how it would function and why it would be good for the game.
random imp
its just a suggestion... er a idea.. calm down lol
@drowsy wren is not a suggestion, is a joke
drowsy wren
yeah ooOps sorry my bad
barren zephyr
lowering the price would be great (i know a lot of effort is being put in the game but it would get more buyers)
tight frigate
nahh, the price is pretty fair, ngl
barren zephyr
not for broke ppl like me
drowsy wren
there are sales?
blissful atlas
fix the camera on the adult acro
past valve
It’s a sandbox dinosaur
molten tulip
it goes on sale in steam sales
valid zephyr
@past valve yep i'd love to see cama supremus.
the current stats for cama are fine, but for the model size it would be nice to feel like a sauropod rather than a long necked trike.
past valve
Exactly
valid zephyr
I mean even the smallest subspecies still dwarfs the one we have.
paper oriole
@lapis geyser corpses will float ashore or at least be on the surface where they can be dragged, there are clips of it
lapis geyser
Huh
But then the weight needed to drag could be lowered, no?
There are also several dinosaurs which would be denser than water
t.rex-
paper oriole
I think it was showcased with utahraptor only so far so idk
Id guess for gameplay reasons theyd all either float or drift ashore
lapis geyser
Yeah, but with the new features I’m assuming eventually certain corpses would be able to sink
They could be washed ashore by underwater currents and/or underwater creatures, though.
paper oriole
Yeah they'd drift to the shoreline eventually, some of the big guys are pretty fat though so they may float
past valve
All bodies float
blazing charm
@tender latch Yeah, telling people to ignore negative reactions really isn't a good way to convince someone that your suggestion is worth considering.
left nacelle
@tender latch If the negative reactions were from the people who don't like the sci-fi parts of The Isle, there wouldn't be so many of them, and there would be more positive ones
peak wedge
@silk bramble Dont need that, we already hear our own hearts when we get attacked
paper oriole
Heartbeat noise in games is so annoying most of the time
It doesnt increase the fear factor
random imp
yhea, it's just annoying and distracting as hell
left nacelle
I think a better alternative would be music for when you're badly hurt, but I'm sure that's already gonna be a thing
silk bramble
or your screen pulsing like a heartbeat
paper oriole
@gaunt heart already coming
paper oriole
Randomized fertility in spawn would be dumb ino, it would be better for it to be dependent on playstyle
paper oriole
Like a rex who eats mainly small shit and AI would have bad fertility vs one who hunts larger, more nutritional prey, and would generally be healthier.
Idk how it sounds like an erp bightmare, it isnt any sort of animation or anything, just an extra backround factor in nesting
barren zephyr
just do egg viability not fertility
paper oriole
Though since good and bad genes will already apparently pass to hatchlings, the extrq layer might not be needed. Rather, some dinos could by default have larger/small clutches, short/long incubation times
barren zephyr
fertility is a lewd word
paper oriole
Meh, it can be but not really
If your mind is in the gutter
Nothing disturbing about reproduction, as long as we don't get dino yiff animations
ashen elm
We're already getting a 'fertility' system, Dondi talked about if you have bad parents (nutrition/state wise) you'll probably end up with some sort of consequences.
valid elk
Btw, the monitor in the picture is a Roughneck
late bloom
Love the suggestion about eating gore and pulling out intestines, I don’t know why I like that idea so much, but it would be so cool to see in the game.
paper oriole
it'd also be cool as fuck if certain dinos like trike, diablo, and theri can rip intestines out of victims in killing blows if they hit them right
like they get gored out with the horns/claws/thagomizers
realistically a galli would slice a human right open with a kick and have their organs spilling out all over the place when mercs come too, imagine the possibilities
silk bramble
no thanks, i'd rather not puke on my keyboard
meager stratus
I do not think having beipi nests immune to river currents would make sense. Maybe if there was a way to attach it to the floor like an anchor of some sort?
paper oriole
Ok then for softies there can be an option for no gore in settings and the rest of us can enjoy ripping the guts out of eachother
cobalt compass
^ and than you get a really hardcore expierience of blood and gore...
the ultimate dondi troll like
here you lil twats, there you have your not so gorey horror game, maybe you shouldnt play it if you cant take it
loud mauve
Does anyone know how i know how much points i got
covert birch
points?
sonic cloud
What points?
covert birch
That isnt on official servers
sonic cloud
That’s progression mate
covert birch
That is only for ceratin unoffiical servers
sonic cloud
Old dead game mode
covert birch
Nah atoka hes talkin discord points
sonic cloud
Ohhh
covert birch
Alfred go onto the discord for the specific server your playing on
sonic cloud
Yeah, no not on this discord bud
covert birch
@loud mauve this is the isle official discord server. YOu cant buy dinos on it.
On some unofficial discords you can buy dinos with points but not here
covert birch
asking what
loud mauve
you buy dinosaurs right ?
sonic cloud
Not here, on other servers maybe
covert birch
^
loud mauve
then how do people have like acros and theris
covert birch
Those are unofficial servers
sonic cloud
They play on those servers
covert birch
Those servers specifically are fan owned, not dev owned
And allow them to buy the dinos with points or money
severe idol
On servers exploiting the community, you can buy access to dinosaurs. On the Official servers (in my opinion, no reason to play Unofficial save for a few of them), there is no purchasing of dinosaurs, boosts in growth time, or special accesses.
loud mauve
But like
covert birch
Its only on those servers alfred
severe idol
It's currently a giant point of contention that it's even being sold as "donation rewards" (cough Purchases) - but there's no current way to address it.
loud mauve
oh
sonic cloud
We aren’t even sure if the Devs will address it, Dondi doesn’t care as long as it isn’t on official
Please smite me if that isn’t accurate
loud mauve
sorry i dont get this on the pandora discord theres points to buy a dinosuar
and whats the value
sonic cloud
We don’t know this isn’t the server to ask
covert birch
Ask there
sonic cloud
Ask them they set the rules
covert birch
we have no way of knowing
ebon tiger
Pangaea doesn't offer dinos for points
paper oriole
ebon tiger
they host nesting events sometimes, but they don't offer them for money or points
loud mauve
no Pandora
sonic cloud
Ask there dude
loud mauve
ik
covert birch
@tall hornet 2 htings
1: when suggesting dinos give reason for it, via mechanics, playstyle, etc
2: para ingame literally replaced cory
if anything cory would be a para skin similar to how tarbo is a rex one
left nacelle
@tall hornet Ya gotta give reasoning, can't just put a dinosaur there. Dinosaurs in game cost thousands of dollars
Plus it was originally planned and got replaced by para
paper oriole
Cory will probably be a species skin for para
Assuming those come
There is really nothing unique you can do with it other than that, it's just para with a different head
tall hornet
it would be really cool to have cory and para, but i understand
paper oriole
More variety is always nice tho models cost a lot to make and animate
tall hornet
I did not know! I thought it was easy to put a species in the game, but it makes sense, I was stupid! haha but that would be cool, it would be
paper oriole
The models actually cost thousands to add apparently, it's pretty wild
Cory has an old model stowed away though it could be seen in the future as a skin or AI or maybe both, hopefully
left nacelle
Yeah, models cost a ton and then there's the sounds, the 100+ animations, there's models for the different life stages, and yeah
covert birch
7k for an entire dino iirc
paper oriole
Cory had some sound files too i think, not certain. But yeah all the growth, animations, all that jazz
covert birch
Cory had literally everything but anims and colors i think
Prolly would be easy to make a para skin outa it
torn thistle
Pretty sure that picture was the actual Cory model that was sitting around too
Well, that specific model, at least. Minus the lil' bony osteoderms on the spine https://imgur.com/JlayaGt
But, for future reference, it'd be good to include ideas as to why an animal could be added to Isle and stand out among the current cast
covert birch
Isle wiki got this pic
tall hornet
Cory and Para are my favorites, thanks for the personal explanation! I really thought it was easy to add a game, so I suggested
☺️
covert birch
and this one which i prefer
torn thistle
Well, I mean beyond "please add [x] creature because it's my favorite"
tall hornet
I like the first skin more
guys, so a question, after the update, no new hadrosaurus other than tenontosaurus will be added to the game? because if you think everyone is from the same family, they will obviously be similar ...
covert birch
Teno is the only new hadro (isnt actually a hadro but is similar lookin) comin to the game in recode
And isnt similar due to the fact its utah sized
And can fight
zenith onyx
Hope the Cory is added to the game.
paper oriole
If friendly fire was removed it would enable people to just rush in like fuckin piranhas and spam bite
Just coordinate better with your pack
Poorly coordinated packs deserve the punishment of friendly fire
I especially look forward to terrible utahs accidentally pouncing eachother or knocking eachother off of targets with pounce
ebon tiger
you gotta start learning to think like real animals in the new game
there's gonna be so many deaths from people who don't learn that
past eagle
good
covert birch
Poorly coordinated packs deserve the punishment of friendly fire
^^^^^^^^^
hoary token
we have to relearn our primate activities for this game now.
covert birch
Dondi did mention the idea of friendly fire having reduced damage tho
ebon tiger
we're still capable of thinking like other animals though. just gotta be in the right situation to kick those instincts into gear
past eagle
fuck being human
paper oriole
Perhaps attacks would deal less damage on a click and more on a hold to help reduce accidents, if anything
But not remove the punishment
covert birch
Well thats basically what is happening anyways
hoary token
only in survival/life or death do we start acting like an animal.
covert birch
Basic attacks deal nothing compared to actual grapples n such
ebon tiger
aye. i've seen that a lot in the current game. people forget what they're playing, and expect to be god-tier killing machines, and then roam servers like some kind of dinosaur Yakuza
hoary token
yeah
ebon tiger
then bitch like hell when a smarter player dominates them
hoary token
i do think that growing should be different depending on your playstyle. This game turns into a sitting sim sometimes
ebon tiger
won't be like that any more
hoary token
yeah. I hate people who afk grow all the time. but at this point it's the meta.
paper oriole
Yeah salute to the heroes who patrol afk grow hotspots and search for roster wasters to kill, that won't be necessary in the future
hoary token
yeah. i will kill a pack member for food if they afk growed the whole time.
hatchling i understand but c'mon if you are juvi.
paper oriole
I get some people think juvie stage is boring but that's what sandbox is for, not wasting spots to hide in a bush on survival
And tbh juvie is sometimes the funnest stage imo, because it's so much more dangerous
With call variation coming i hope the quick click on the current 3 call will be a growl or snort warning while holding it does the current roar
hoary token
maybe. but i would always think that an animal wouldn't have a confident 3 call if it was going against something it's size/bigger. It would be more careful and more of a warning.
paper oriole
Yeah the click would be a sort of warning or a “i'm here, please stay away” message, the hold would be the AAAAAAAA death battle screams we have now
And with 4 call the click could be a quick alarm call like dryos and maias currently have, the hold could be a horrified scream like allos and utahs currently have. New shorter or longer calls would have to be made for dinos for these
zenith onyx
@hoary token. You will grow automaticuly in the recode. You won't need a timer or system to see what your growth is at.
left nacelle
@zenith onyx That's not what they mean. They mean on the character screen, it'll show the total growth time
hoary token
yeah but it's time will be the same.
i wish that some things would adversely affect affect your growth. And some actions would do the opposite. Like starving all the time would stunt your growth/make you take longer to grow. And eating a healthy amount would make you grow faster because you have extra nutrients.
meager stratus
I like DarkBlade's suggestion about adding server settings for group sizes. But instead of it kicking people on its own, have groups unable to invite anymore when limit is met. And if possible, for those who like limited adults/subs but unlimited hatchlings/juvies, disable growing at certain percentages with a full adult group.
Not sure if that last bit would work well or not but having that option sounds nice.
left nacelle
@hoary token The diet system will do just that. Afk growing will make your growth like 2-3 times longer, eating your preferred diet will speed up your growth, but just eating anything will make you have normal growth times
peak wedge
Unless you a herbi, dont eat the wrong stuff or death afaik
left nacelle
@peak wedge Not true. Herbis will have a preferred plant, but they can still graze or eat other plants if they want. But their preferred plant makes them grow faster
peak wedge
I had thought it had been Herbies would like die or get hurt and carnies wouldnt because they would need to kill for food pretty sure don said that on a stream
left nacelle
I don't remember him saying that at all
If you can find a clip, I'll admit I'm wrong, but I don't remember him saying that
icy lion
i know that the adverse effects of having a bad diet are stronger for herbies than carnies, and i remember talk of poisonous plants
but not straight up dying
left nacelle
Yeah
peak wedge
Peeps were saying close to death or dying he def said about herbs having a bad time tho
icy lion
well if you dont have your preferred food around, itd be hard to fill up
vs carnis filling up fine on anything (but rotten)
maybe thats what it meant?
or maybe the bad diet punishments are more severe than we thought
peak wedge
Ill try and find the clip
peak wedge
Cant find it cause twitch clip is weird
Its the one thats like dino diet preferences confirmed
zenith onyx
oH i understand now.. thank you for elaborating.
vivid rampart
My earlier suggestion about friendly fire was meant more as an immersion thing rather than letting bad players bite all they want. Pounce accidents definitely makes sense, but as far as modern pack animals, two wolves can bite at the same prey from different sides and won’t bite each other. Random bites at each other that do full damage during hunts isn’t very immersive, though I do agree there should be some penalties for rushing in and biting without thinking.
left nacelle
@fiery edge Currently, you can't get struck by lightning because Dondi says it's unfair to have a chance of just randomly dying. That suggestion can be argued away by the same logic. That's not fair. Some animals in the game will be living in water, so it isn't fair for lightning to just randomly strike the water and make them lose all their progress
meager stratus
Im fine without lightning. One way it could work though is if lightning strikes occur rarely during thunderstorms and only hits a dino in an open area (no trees or other cover nearby). It could encourage people to seek shelter during storms. But i dont think the lightning should insta-kill people. Maybe some health loss and a temporary debuff could be applied?
strange wave
lightning should mask sound and keep players in the underbrush, plus it could strike near people and scare the shit out of them
left nacelle
Well if you need to seek shelter from lightning, what happens if you aren't near shelter? Or what if you have a nest? It becomes a case of crappy rng. And then you also have to just chill there and wait out the storm. It's better for lightning to just be the way it is now
Also @strange wave lightning does kinda mask sound. When Dondi was first adding weather, he said that he spent a ton of time making sure that lighting occurs at the same time for all players, so mercs can use the sound as cover to keep things from hearing the gunshots
molten tulip
How about lightning causing fires instead
a small chance of lightning setting fire to an area, causing everyone to evacuate or get burned
it wouldnt have to be a fullscale forest fire since its already raining, maybe a 5-10 minute hazard
left nacelle
@molten tulip Forest fires were shown off years ago, I would assume they're still planned far into the future
molten tulip
its better than lightning striking players though
left nacelle
It's way better
barren zephyr
Imagine you had a nest and everything was on fire
I'd hope you could carry your babies or have them follow
Like carry one in your mouth, and another on your back
paper oriole
Juvies will be fast enough to follow
Hatchlings in herds could hide in dryo burrows to escape fire
barren zephyr
I think it'd be.cute to carry a hatchie
barren zephyr
I mean for other dinos that cant burrow
left nacelle
The devs already said that you probably won't be able to carry anything that's alive, because it comes with all sorts of problems. People will abuse it
Plus birds don't pick up their young anyway so I don't think it'd be very realistic (and yeah yeah I know realism doesn't matter blah blah)
paper oriole
If forest fires come and you're a hatchling you just gotta hope there's a dryo or somethin nearby willing to share its burrow lol
Would be just one perk of being in a herd
somber parrot
@tacit trout That would be nice, but then we would need more mods to moderate in those channels. Which isn't really possible 😄
left nacelle
@tidal seal Keep in mind, animals cost ~$7000 to make. And probably more now that animals have 100+ animations each
lilac swallow
Do people realize hyper herbis would agresively eat plants 24/7 and wont have time to do anything else?
barren zephyr
@tidal seal @fiery edge Afaik hyper herbies are not being added due to lore reasons
lilac swallow
Also agresive Bush sucking 24/7
fiery edge
Ohn... 😕
strange wave
its either the "hypo herbies" wouldn't be herbies at all anymore or they would aggressively eat all the plants in an area before eating the other herbivores
icy lion
teething would be a cool activity for juvies, similar to mud baths. extra activity with health/stat benefits. maybe it could help your damage stat grow faster? not sure if individual stats will have different growth rates depending on activity/diet
peak wedge
@fiery edge fix your suggestion plz
paper oriole
Tbh hyper herbies turning carniverous and terrorizing their herd before going on a violent rampage fueled by their newfound lust for blood would be cool IMO but it sadly won't happen because biased devs don't want any strains for herbis (even if they're different strains)
peak wedge
Pretty sure its lore that keeps there from being hypo herbis and not biased devs
Or thats what was said
thorn wagon
Imagine just existing peacefully in a herd and suddenly this para goes on a steroid fueled cannibalistic rampage and kills the whole herd in a matter of minutes
Because that surely wouldn’t ruin anyone’s gameplay
lilac swallow
Surely
barren zephyr
Surely fun
past eagle
what's wrong with that?
left nacelle
@fiery edge When Dondi was first adding weather, I asked if storms rolling over the island would be a possibility. He said that it would be badass if that could happen but he doesn't think it's possible. Things are different now than they were back then so maybe it's possible now, but idk
paper oriole
Well it's not like it would suddenly turn hyper
There'd be hints leading up to it
Anyway, even plants will apparently be getting strains and herbis won't, it's a bit saddening. Maybe herbis could obtain a unique strain of their own from the plants, an accidental strain really. It would be very challenging, considering strain plants will be deadly
And about the hyper herbi ‘ruining anybody's gameplay’ how would it be different than peacefully chilling in a herd when a hyper rex bursts out of the jungle and demolishes your entire group in a matter of minutes, it would be exactly the same just a different animal
harsh silo
I thought the "rain in specific areas" was possible, I do remember him mentioning that it would happen if I'm not mistaken, purely because of the new cloud system, I'm not sure if I should react to the rain suggestion with ⏲️ but iirc he did mention it would/could happen
left nacelle
Oooh good to know
icy lion
i dont want to react with a ⏲️ since i dont think we have a hard confirmation, but nesting-exclusive colors have been discussed. lets hope they get in the game c:
fiery edge
@rigid vessel having the chance to get a albino dino would be cool... but honestly it would definitly not help with hunting or hiding...
random imp
color variation like melanistic or albino 'd be awesome
a rare chance tho, albinos and melanistics are not that common
paper oriole
I think albinism could be a cannibalism skin, like you gotta be a nasty cannibal over a long period of time to unlock it
Melanism and other mutations like piebalds would be cool rare best skins tho
left nacelle
Dondi did mention in the past about making people who play bad become albino, but that was associated with affinity, which is irrelevent now
paper oriole
Maybe albinism could still be related to gameplay like that, even if affinity is getting dumped
Maybe nesting can have a rare albino with blue eyes, but a cannibalistic lifestyle can lead to a red eyed cannibal.
icy lion
i remember dondi mentioning having shit parents means you can be shit as well, and possibly having albinism as punishment for cannibals? that mightve just been dondi having ideas tho
paper oriole
Bad parents could have q higher chance at nesting in albinos, also maybe if you land the rare skins enough times (say 50 times? That'd take some time) you can unlock the colours in customization for all your dinos
Not sure how herbis would unlock red-eye albino though if it was a cannibalism skin though, unless they unlocked the customization with a carni
hoary token
Being near hazardous areas/eating mutation plants could end up with mutated babies like the red eye albino. or dwarfism/gigantism. That would be amazing. Having a extremely slow but 10 tons overweight trike that has gigantism or a dwarf trike that only gets to juv size.
random imp
Albinism will be achieved with poor playstyle
But it'd be' cool if that could be also a random mutation when born
peak wedge
I think if gigantism was ig it wouldn't be slow, it would die at like .5 or at juv stage as well but be massive even still
hoary token
maybe
or would depend on the real live estimated gt of the dino. Maybe a trike would only get to fresh sub. But a gigantism affected dilo would reach full adult.
left nacelle
@spring holly There's already plans for how Hypers will work but we don't know them yet
So your suggestion is kinda obsolete
vestal rune
well from what the devs said we can infer that it is something you aim to achieve, and have to finish certain requirements in order to actually become one(even if you do them by accident)
digital bone
Dye can also derive from roots, bark, wood, insect parts, plants, seeds and even rinds, meaning dyes can be obtained from the natural environment around us in-game.
tender latch
Yeah, but gems are rare and pretty, so... but, whatever you say :P
digital bone
True, true. You'd be forced to venture into cannibal caves for them.
blazing charm
...Okay, i'm no expert on Gemology but I don't think you can just grind up a crystal and make some liquid.
If you wanted to make some kind of rare material for body paints, why not some kind of rare plants or mushrooms in place of gemstones? You'd be able to find them in more or less the same place, be able to keep the exotic colors and statistic buffs.
spring holly
Awwe oki @left nacelle i thought it would've been cool to randomly realize your dino is growing after adult
ebon tiger
you can grind gems into powder and mix it with water though
feral wedge
@supple robin Don't post things like that.
supple robin
blazing charm
@distant swift So, this was the only size chart I could find for what you're suggesting, how would this be any different from creatures already planned to be in the game like Psittacosaurus, Protoceratops or even Homalocephale?
Still seems counter productive to add something that has already been added 3 seperate times, with animals that are aruably more unique as playable or AI.
distant swift
Ah true true
blazing charm
It's not too bizzare, especially if you compared it to the current roster we have.
digital bone
Looks like a cross between Homalocephale and Protoceratops.
blazing charm
Pretty much
It's certainly an interesting animal, but I personally don't think it'd be best for the game.
sonic cloud
If you want something in the vein of Gryph then Udanoceratops is a better alternative
It’s bigger and has a monster of a chin and less of a frill, this guys cracks skulls with that bite
Probably not be unique enough for the isle but still a cool boy
By bigger, wiki lists it as having a 60cm long skull and being 4 meters long, but it’s still wiki
distant swift
Oh dang
blazing charm
Yeah, Udano looks interesting but then you just have this bizzare inbetween of Protoceratops and Pachyrhinosaurus.
sonic cloud
You see the jaws right?
granite vigil
Yes
sonic cloud
@blazing charm Ehh I disagree, Udano is a biter, like if it gets a Utah’s head/foot/literally anything in its mouth it’s just gone forever. So attack wise it’s better than Proto
That being said, that’s probably not unique enough on its own so yeah, not worth it, but still a cool animal
granite vigil
It's a nice mod creature
blazing charm
I never said Proto was better, I said Udano was an inbetween, if anything it just creates an issue of the smaller creature being completely invalidated.
sonic cloud
Fair enough
covert birch
Udano of all things would be much more similar to ava/dowsized dibble then proto imo
blazing charm
I'm referring to gameplay style and defensive capabilties, not size.
ebon tiger
@zenith onyx pterosaurs can float, and are apparently string enough to launch into the air from water, so a diving Ptera might not have to swim to shore
ebon tiger
@analog wolf that's already coming to the game
they've already showcased some WIP body-dragging in #phase-two-archive
left nacelle
paper oriole
Wtf is that suggestion to play doom ost when a spino fights a rex is that a joke
left nacelle
@pale cypress Remember, these are animals, not huge movie monsters. There doesn't need to be some epic soundtrack for fights. Plus that music is from a completely different game so the devs obviously aren't going to use it. It would also cause a ton of copyright issues and stuff
left nacelle
@pale cypress Sorry, it didn't come off as a joke. And yeah there Hypers are movie monsters, but not the normal animals
paper oriole
Joke suggestions are against rules
icy lion
joke suggestions can get you bricked
pale cypress
Oh...
pale cypress
I can get banned just for making a joke suggestion?
left nacelle
Yep
pale cypress
Jeez
left nacelle
Because it's a waste of the devs' time
You wouldn't be surprised as much if you've seen how bad people in this community can be sometimes
pale cypress
I don't think they read that chat tho
left nacelle
Well... that's kinda the whole point of the #general-feedback channel... it's for the devs to get suggestions
pale cypress
Oh I've seen the bad, I've been around since the begining of this game
left nacelle
Oh same
pale cypress
I followed it form the start
icy lion
they should make a pinned rules for the suggestions channel, rn its like 3 different posts about buff/nerf and add dino rules. itd be nice if there was a concise post
random imp
@left nacelle relax man it was a joke
@pale cypress then do not joke in a serious channel. i'd give you a strike if i were a mod.
paper oriole
“Sluggisher”
zenith onyx
@rotund panther I love your idea about mud traps! it's brilliant.
rotund panther
Thanks! Would be cool and risky. Alot of coding tho. Yea I know @paper oriole 
Slower
paper oriole
We need some good environmental hazards
rotund panther
They are doing alot so eventually maybe.
paper oriole
Mud and tar pits, manchineels, sulfur gas by volcanic areas
left nacelle
@paper oriole Tar pits were already shown a while back
Soooo I'd be surprised if they don't go in. Don seemed to really like them
paper oriole
Gooood
rotund panther
Niice
left nacelle
@paper oriole Found a Clip https://clips.twitch.tv/SilkyAntsyArtichokeSeemsGood
rotund panther
@paper oriole But the Deinonychus moves slower is what I meant. Changed it in the suggestion
left nacelle
@rotund panther Out of curiosity, what do you mean Deinonychus? Deinonychus isn't in the game
paper oriole
Deinosuchus probably
rotund panther
Deino, the crocodile. Thats the word!!
rotund panther
Yea, I fuck up the spelling
But yea, changed it again in the suggestion
I really hope they implement these environments with different benefits with good and bad. It would encourage players to explore the map more for vegetation, prey but also the landscape
icy lion
@languid arrow have you heard of the recode? v3 wont exist and everything is being changed
languid arrow
@icy lion I have and i’m looking forward to it. Just really love this game and it’s really annoying these things happen. Though i have full understanding of the situation i don’t have full control over my emotions.
icy lion
collision and grappling are being added
paper oriole
Ah yes, not being able to log while bleeding, so a single utah can hold a full adult giga hostage and make them lose all their hours when they need to log and go to work
random imp
@barren zephyr wtf of a feedback did you write? Troll suggestions and feedback can get you banned. I suggest you to delete it.
barren zephyr
Your under the impression that I'm trolling.
The Isle has managed well with their server development, Last Oasis has not, both are survival Genre's.
There's real opportunity if Dondi's team could help them to get partnerships, advertisement, allt he above for the isle.
random imp
That is not a feedback then, more of a suggestion
barren zephyr
Fair enough.
random imp
And writing in that way is not useful.
barren zephyr
It's how I always write.
random imp
Write your motivations and why Dondi should waste time helping a other game
Make your point
Instead of saying " hey fix last Oasis server XD ehehihihi"
sonic cloud
Why is it this dev teams responsibility to help another dev team fix their game?
random imp
Lol, that, THAT is a suggestion
He made a point then explained in detail how to Fix it or implement it the best way he could.
Instead of stuff like " add Tarwbuosawrus"
sonic cloud
^
random imp
I understand nothing of coding, but is apreciated
sonic cloud
It’s a good suggestion, even if someone were to hypothetically disagree with it, the suggestion itself is clear and provides a way for the devs to implement it.
Unlike 99% of “suggestions” the poster actually put genuine thought and effort into it.
left nacelle
@radiant aspen That actually used to be in the game. Idk when or why it got removed, but I remember suggesting something related to breathing a looong time ago, and I was told that it is gonna return
I actually specifically remember a really really old thing in the patch notes of an update from 2015-2016 where there was a bug fixed that made the rex breath way to heavy after it ran, it sounded like it was hyperventilating
barren zephyr
@left nacelle thank you for the advice man! It was a good one 😄
left nacelle
You're welcome! I'm glad to contribute to such a good suggestion! 😁
thorny crag
everyone hates the idea to make the game more expensive but who pays them for their work?
they need money to live so get real
sure the update is free for all who already got the game for just 15 bucks or even less but I like the idea of boosting the price a bit to earn something and maybe even hire more people to boost development
barren zephyr
Hi, guys. How do I unlock new dinosaurs? Like Spinosaurs, Baryonix, Puertasaurus, Stegosaurus ... can you help me?
thorny crag
cannot be unlocked, they are in development, other servers offer them for discord points some even sell them but don't spend money on them, you can be nested in too
barren zephyr
Ah, ok. thank you anyway.
left nacelle
@thorny crag If they need the money, they'll increase the price. They must have plenty of money because they have enough to add new members to the team (which they're currently doing) and they have enough to add 14 new animals, each of which is $7000+
thorny crag
they must have plenty? xD sure people with a company who are not dumb put money to the side and invest it wisely but still, I find it funny how people dislike the idea of increasing the price when the recode is out but still want more content. they will need more and I really hope they get it
it's still a very small company
vivid rampart
I love The Isle and I have personally purchased it four times (once for a friend, once on my husbands account, and two accounts for me) so I definitely think that this game is worth the money, however raising the price while it is still in development would likely go over very poorly with the majority of newer players. Anyone who has the game now or during the development process is more than welcome to donate to the team in one way or another of course, but forcing people to pay extra (as in DLC) or full-game price for a game that is still in development would likely end very, very poorly in the public eye.
left nacelle
Yeah, like I wouldn't be opposed to the game's price going up after it leaves early access, but raising the price midway through early access? Doesn't sound very smart
gaunt heart
@left nacelle what i mean is how the gigas body is like twisted and fucked up when it dies
left nacelle
Every animal does that
gaunt heart
i have never seen any other dino other than the rexes arm and the gigas body do that
left nacelle
I've seen it on almost every animal
peak wedge
@zenith onyx giving giga even more speed would not be good imo
covert birch
@zenith onyx making giga faster would allow it to invalidate the rest of the roster even better
If anything it deserves a nerf
Cuz atm giga literally only has 1 bad matchup which is rex
Which even then you can win in some circumstances
zenith onyx
well I think it would be a great idea because then you wouldn't have to worry about every single rex trying to eat you. Plus is would make it a little easier to possibly survive a fight instead of losing to a rex 8/10 times.
covert birch
Again the whole idea is that giga has only 1 bad matchup which is against rex
Otherwise it can literally trot down a large portion of the roster
blazing charm
Keep in mind, Giga is supposedly getting a rework of somekind. So there's no telling what it could be.
zenith onyx
okay.
zenith onyx
What's wrong with the ptera climbing into a tree for a wing heal @covert birch and @barren zephyr?
idk understand.
covert birch
You should be punished if your dumb enough to break your wing
That punishment is having to heal on the ground where preds are
Also how tf will you climb a tree with a broke wing
barren zephyr
I think it's just too easy to be able to get in a safe spot when you have a wing/arm broken
If you break your wing as a ptera, it's a death sentence and the best you should be able to do is hide, not get out of reach and just wait
zenith onyx
well remember some dinos will be able to climb into trees so you won't be entirely safe.
and they'll all be preds too.
somber wraith
Yeah but how would something with a broken wing even fucking climb
covert birch
The thing is tree climbing predators will be much more scarse then anything else
Yeah but how would something with a broken wing even fucking climb
also this
somber wraith
I don’t think it works that way
zenith onyx
show me an example of how it CAN'T work that way.
covert birch
The same way a bat with a broken wing cant climb
covert birch
ptera dont got woodpecker feet
zenith onyx
and some pteradons ate bugs from bark.
somber wraith
Pteras were more like bats in the way they walked. They walked on all fours so if you try climbing with a broken arm basically you’ll definitely fall
zenith onyx
i can see how that might make it difficult.
somber wraith
Also looking at your past suggestions do you think the nycta T. rex is an official dino?
somber wraith
No
zenith onyx
cause it feels that way sense you stated that.
barren zephyr
calm down people, no need to attack or feel attacked
somber wraith
Well I’m just confused of why you posted that it should be released in this discord since the devs have no control over that dino
zenith onyx
I thought it was an official dino until i was told otherwise
somber wraith
Ah got it
potent mist
i ran some tests for the performance of my suggestion and it takes about 3.2 * 10^-8 seconds to run through it and do all the floating point multiplication and binary searching and all that
10,000,000 times over in 0.32 seconds
depending on how exactly the seamless growth is implemented you might need to call the bezier functions fairly frequently, especially for like 200 dinos all on the same server
wonder if that's fast enough
ebon tiger
@waxen cloak the problem there, is the green night-vision is false-colour. it's not naturally like that.
the grey-ish NV we currently have in-game is also based on false-colour.
it would naturally look more like faint colours and greys, without much eye-shine (which requires direct light), perhaps some faint glints, rather than the "lamp-eyes" effect
waxen cloak
Oh, thats cool I didn't know that
I guess I just thought it was green since thats how it is on TV
ebon tiger
aye, i can see where the misunderstanding comes from
waxen cloak
Well thanks for elaborating
ebon tiger
no worries
pale cypress
I don't get why people don't like my suggestion. Death animations are gonna be a thing, are people THAT opposed to a spino killing a rex?
zenith onyx
I don't think it should be the shade green like the photo but maybe a lighter shade maybe a few dark blues and browns.
covert birch
@pale cypress kill anims havent actually been confirmed
just an idea spittballed by dondi during QNA stream
pale cypress
Didn't he talk about it in one of his qna streams? I think he said something about a rex tearing a trike apart?
covert birch
That was part of combat itself
Not a kill animation
Rex grapples trike
If it wins then it kills the trike
icy lion
i think that was also the stream where kissen was in chat saying "dondi what are you talking about"
covert birch
@languid arrow all dinos are getting faster in recode
Stam is gonna be 10x more prevelant so it wont decrease
but it will not be used just for running around as much
languid arrow
if I escape the trex I dont want him to have a free ticket to get after me
covert birch
and he wont
covert birch
Growth system is changing
languid arrow
great
covert birch
Its linear atm
languid arrow
pretty sure its not
covert birch
You always grow at a constant rate
covert birch
Also linear
unless your referring to nonsurvivals who are bugged for the most part due to being incomplete
Growth will work like this after recode
While growing youll have to do certain tasks, Doing these tasks will speed your growth
Not doing these tasks will slow it
languid arrow
how do you know this?
covert birch
Devs have told us
languid arrow
oh but they shouldnt make this a forced action simulator
covert birch
Its not forced
covert birch
You dont have to do them to grow
languid arrow
it is if you dont grow too fast otherwise
covert birch
But youll grow much slower if you dont
languid arrow
I mean makes sense
covert birch
Like you wont be able to AFK grow unless you want it to take 3+ more hrs
languid arrow
but also something they could mess up big time
sure I udnerstand
I still think eating would be a great way
also to cause migrations, no food no dinosaurs
covert birch
Eating is a thing there
languid arrow
I hope so
covert birch
Herbis need to eat certain foods
languid arrow
was this a recent stream?
covert birch
It was both QNA streams