to me it sounds like he is sniffing
#general-feedback-discussion
finite perch
brittle bough
can confirm maias are very sensual in their noises, including laying down/getting up
personally when i sit and stand i dont go MMMMMH
barren zephyr
yo ok so like different classes for mercenaries theres the tracker, tranq, capturer, assault
tracker has service pistol and a tracker gun
same with tranq instead of tracker gun they have tranq
barren zephyr
capturer has net
and pistol
assault has ar with pistol
yes?
what do u guys think
about the mercenaries classes
@barren zephyr now that’s epic
yeah danke
fathom harness
Hold up.
Classes.
Now we're talking.
Instead have specific classes for different mechanics. For example ~
barren zephyr
Tranqer, Assault, Capturer, and Tracker
Tranqer has Service pistol and tranq rifle
Assault has service pistol and AR
Capturer has net gun and service pistol
Tracker has a tracking needle and service pistol
Each class comes with a different uniform (not primal carnage stuff. im talking about like actual armor)
like the ones in the teaser
jesus christ how long does it take to type
inner valley
since dinosaurs moan when getting up and sitting down, will humans do that too when they're added?
barren zephyr
LMAO
paper oriole
humans should have a moan button
fathom harness
Scientist: Specialized with science (obviously). Capable of implanting trackers/implants into dinos. Perhaps could be capable of crafting different items such as medical kits or anti-venoms (if venom is added).
Assault: Specialized in combat. Has steadier aim and faster reload than the other classes. (Could be divided into Support and Assault, with one specialized with melee and one specialized with ranged weaponry.)
Ranger: Specialized in wild life survival and taming. Has significantly better sprint speed and better stamina than the other classes.
Thoughts? ^^^
paper oriole
so dinos feel awkward when they btie them and they oan
fathom harness
I really want humans' 1 call to just be the screaming sounds from the howling mouse vine.
fathom harness
XD
inner valley
that's when humans should just moan really loud
or you just say a really bad pickup line
fathom harness
It should instead be "how you doin'"
But the bad pick up line idea is actually pretty good
inner valley
what if you come across a group of like 10 humans just spamming pick up lines
barren zephyr
@steady cradle
they most likely didnt steal eggs all the time
fathom harness
Actually, one recent discovery has much of the scientific and paleolithic community currently going with the concept that Oviraptors were not egg stealers at all.
But the Isle doesn't necessarily strive for realism in the anatomical or dietary departments so perhaps Oviraptor could be added as an egg stealing omnivorous small dinosaur.
viral creek
Oviraptor seems a bit too small compared to the rest of the survival roster.
I think a larger relative like anzu may be a better choice
grand brook
oviraptor wasn't the thief of those fossil eggs in particular
but that doesn't mean it wasn't oportunistic and tried to snatch one to eat it
plenty of carnivores will eat ostrich eggs, from egyptian vultures to lions. So an oviraptorid could be a jack of all trades both being able to hunt small game, scavenge, eat some plants and eggs
lilac swallow
@urban moon im afraid so say this but the neck thing of dilo doesnt exist
It was made just for jp
urban moon
I know but it would still be nice and cool if it can be done or not
lilac swallow
If they wanted they would problably have done it by now
But still lets see what hapens
urban moon
That's true and yep
umbral prairie
- copyright problems (maybe? idk)
2.it would look like shit on the TI dilo
I prefer the relatively realistic dilo we have, and the frill wouldn't fit the model imo
barren zephyr
same
still temple
iirc Universal can get ppl into legal trouble if they wanted to, regarding dilo frill
though they most likely won't bother, it's still a bad idea.
I don't mind a strain monster-dilo getting a frill of some sort, but keep the regular dinosaurs grounded in reality pls
barren zephyr
@blazing charm I love your suggestion so much
You have a perfect idea
That i really want the devs to consider it
will give Ceratosaurus an unique ability
and its own scavenger niche
It has my full support
grand brook
they are already pushing it with the JP sound effects, so let's keep the dilo as it is
barren zephyr
nice job with this suggestion, fits the scavenger playstyle even more and incetiving cerato players to do so
Good suggestion Jaffad
blazing charm
❤
mental sleet
👍
brittle bough
@sacred sand i believe devs have said they don't intend on adding seasons, so i wouldn't hold my breath for that, i do like your suggestion and the idea of seasons and temperatures though- especially with how it could interact with stamina (sprinting to warm up in the cold, risking overheating in the heat, etc.)
barren zephyr
I don't believe the Devs dismissed seasons, but I'm pretty sure they said snow was not going to happen.
brittle bough
hum, if they could add seasons other than snow i certainly wouldnt mind, have a southern winter where theres no snow but its just cold and everything's dead lol
sacred sand
Ah, i see, yeah i tried to avoid linking everything to snow in winter as snow isn't exactly the most fun thing to work into a game, and hard to implement without it being too overpowering ig
brittle bough
if they really wanted to go for it, changing some ground textures to white, lessening the grass in some way, making the trees leafless, and making snow fall instead of rain (not gather or anything but just as a visual effect) is really all they need for sufficient ambience imo, but being from the south all we get is slightly dead-er grass, barren trees, and.. still rain lol, so a southern winter would need less changes
sacred sand
Yeah, i just really like the idea of having to prepare for winter and the struggle of getting through it, as it's already a survival game, so the visuals would be good with just a few adjustments imo
brittle bough
the one bothersome thing about severe seasonal differences is new players arriving mid-winter and getting fucked, so ehhh
lament thorn
also storing food is a no no from the devs
Don doesnt want to give players the option to hoard
indigo sun
Perhaps more wet and dry seasons then? Instead of winter, summer, spring and fall?
sacred sand
Yeah, people being discouraged to join during the hard seasons would be an issue
not only would dinos be out to kill you, but the environment would be too
indigo sun
So during the dry season, there's less bushes, less rain, lakes ponds and rivers become a little smaller. And then during the wet season it rains a lot more and there's a lot more food, but a chance of flooding and stuff too
brittle bough
don't starve is an unrelenting survival game with severe seasons, and generally joining in winter means you die immediately unless the locals adopt you quickly enough lol, so youre best off not joining at all. wet and dry could be more accommodating, yeah
barren zephyr
You could add a temperature mechanic. But I personally like the idea of 4 seasons (normal, wet, normal, and dry). In the dry season rivers dry up and only the deepest spots of rivers and lakes have water. In wet season they flood possibly splitting the map in half where only the best swimmers can cross.
sacred sand
And won't corpse dragging make it possible to hoard though? I've heard that's already being planned
lament thorn
the bodies will just be out in the open and they despawn
indigo sun
Hoarding would be like emptying food into a nest and being able to take it out again as an adult
sacred sand
o H right- yeah my bad
brittle bough
yeah nah, that would be busted lul
sacred sand
store a whole trike under the ground sdkfj
upbeat halo
Hey, could a <@&401466542140817419> send this to Dondi for the chance that he’ll see it? I was just thinking, concerning the Deinosuchus’s swimming anim, wouldn’t it be more realistic to have the teeth below the water? That would make it blend in more, like the way it is rn is that the head is above, but if Dondi was to angle the chin down maybe 15-45°, the teeth would be covered. Just my 2 cents, I know this probably won’t happen I just feel as if it would be more realistic and easier to hunt if there wasn’t any pearly whites to spot when you were tryna creep up on something.
Or Developer, either one
indigo sun
Youre in the wrong channel, this isnt suggestions; and also the animations arent actually going to be as high or low in the water as they are shown in animations. The water used is just a test to make sure it looks alright. The developers do see the suggestions and the animations arent finished.
south flower
@upbeat halo post this in #general-feedback, and you shouldn’t ping moderators to show something to a dev if it’s a mere suggestion. That’s why they HAVE the suggestions channel.
tepid light
Also that's not something you should really tag us about 
shell willow
Also dondi isn't the one that animates
brittle bough
pihrahni: speaks
[ Everyone disliked that. ]
fathom harness
Pachy should take about the same time as Galli to grow, to be quite honest.
wintry cipher
gallis about the same grow time as utah i think. maia should grow same speed as allo, and pachy same as dilo once it gets its needed buffs.
zinc void
oh pachys getting a buff?
fathom harness
That's a fair point actually. @wintry cipher I concur.
Also if anyone wants to voice opinions on any suggestions I've given please do, especially regarding the nesting suggestions I've given.
wintry cipher
I know Don doesn't like the idea of having to manage a whole bunch of meters at once, so the temperature stuff might be prudent to leave off on. hot and wet seasons have been discussed though and I feel they have a high chance of being put in as environmental factors for gameplay.
I CAN see seasons affecting nesting viability though for very obvious reasons. wet = more water= more fish = more food for babies, while it would be suicide for a sucho to nest in the dry season. meanwhile, predators such as utah might thrive in dry seasons because they are quick enough to avoid most of their foes to get water, and feast on the bloodbath of bodies resulting from people fighting over water
its less about direct buffs, and more about situational benefits
grand brook
maia should grow faster than allo, we already have an hadrosaur that takes the same time to grow as the allo which is the para
maias grow at the same speed a carno does, which is pretty ok
brittle bough
pachys should just grow faster in general is all
grand brook
yes of course
but they also need a bit of a bleed res buff and perhaps a reduction is speed, sort of like small diablos without bleed, essentially focused on defence
jovial saddle
What does ⏲ mean when it’s a reaction on a suggestion
lilac swallow
That is planed and you just have to wait
north hemlock
jovial saddle
indigo sun
tf does fuzzy mean "where's my slower growth times"? what needs slower growth?
lilac swallow
I think he just want the game to be more about afkaing
night mountain
lets add an afk meter too
your dinosaur NEEDS to afk to refill the meter
when it hits 0 you die :^)
tender latch
Everything @indigo sun
tender latch
Never mind rip
zinc void
why even suggest that
everything besides pachy is fine atm
btw, im open for opinions on my suggestion
lilac swallow
More skin customization is always welcome
lilac swallow
I would love more patterns
zinc void
yeah, especially with the lack of colors for carnivores
night mountain
the only fun one is carnos being able to have a power rangers squad
lilac swallow
Right now even if we had many colours people would still just be recolors for another Guy as everyone shares the same pattern
night mountain
i wanna be a green anky with near perfect camouflage and hide next to a path and break peoples legs out of nowhere
zinc void
i also want to have a unique skin
cuz ive seen 3 different people use the giga skin i made
lilac swallow
If there were at least more patterns they would look different even if they use the same colors
zinc void
oh yeah the amethyst rex
night mountain
And green highlights :^)
lilac swallow
I also need non neon red blue and purple
zinc void
i wouldn't say the colors should be neon but like
having purple and actual red and blue would be nice
lilac swallow
I mean we have many greens while we could have neon green but we dont, why cant we have many reds blues and purples?
grave karma
i want a darker green than the dryo colors
rn the dryo colors are about the only green that doesnt look yellow-ish
barren zephyr
first person
v to toggle
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idk but i have a really good idea for it
bitter trench
Rexes can have neon green too
short belfry
@paper oriole the heal bleed part maybe wouldnt be nessasary because you cant die from bleed. But the rest of it is pretty smart.
paper oriole
i mean if you are bleeding badly after a fight and need to rush to a hiding spot, not having the time to really find a good one so you sit in the nearest bush
a dino could see your erect tail sticking out and attack your vulnerable, immobile self
but you'd be less visible to passerbies while healing if you could curl inward in the less convenient spots
short belfry
IQ 200
paper oriole
'twas just a lil thought lol
blazing charm
Honestly, it's a valid concern. I'm just trying to think how to do it without having to make extra animations for every animal
zinc void
You still die from bleed btw
pale prairie
not while resting.
paper oriole
Dont think itd have to be every dino, just the more bendy and lanky ones mainly, i guess most would get the tail curl tho
If theyre adding new animations for grazing tho maybe they could do this eventually
barren zephyr
get rid of the current mercenaries skin
its shit
i like the first one with all the helmets and gas masks
Heavy gear
That needs to be
see look
bring this back for humans or at least update it
to more detail
keep the gas mask and helmet it looks cool
everything looks cool
pls isle
dont die on me
blazing charm
(1) This isn't where you post suggestions, this is where we discuss em
(2) I kinda feel like this counts more as feedback
(3) Mercs haven't been in the game in a very long time, the ones we've seen were merely super early prototypes.
jovial blade
Lol yea that was more feedback
neat flicker
@shell mica troll suggestions are not allowed. Suggestions that have a meaningful impact are allowed, not “finish this” t
barren zephyr
@valid flower
The isle has planned to add humans since it first popped in the internet
you'll have to deal with it if you bought this game thinking it would just be another normal dinosaur survival game
blazing charm
There'll most likely be plenty of community servers that enable dinosaurs only.
barren zephyr
That too ^
valid flower
If that will be an option then brilliant
valid zephyr
@barren zephyr I disagree. Lots of people enjoy no alt turn (even though I hate it). A huge number of servers disable it so it's clearly a popular option to choose. Removing just the option wouldn't improve the game in any way.
prisma lily
the devs have discussed and warned people that alt turn will be force enabled, it is only a matter of time.
encouraging people to continue avoiding it only causes more misconceptions about this mechanic that is integral to future combat.
lilac swallow
May just as well let servers disable NV
Is just stupid being able to turn off a basic mechanich
And removing It will stop people from doing suggestions based on no alt turn balance
indigo sun
I'm gonna agree with Ricsie. The game really is balanced around alt turn. Regardless of enjoying alt turn, it's very much a proper mechanic and most servers only remove it because "dinosaurs aren't ballerinas." And also people will come in with proper balance suggestions
I dont think it should be possible for an allo to die to a single galli because the player couldnt alt turn on a server they happen to like the rules of
barren zephyr
☝
grand brook
I used to be against alt-turn, but the game is balanced around it for better or worse. I really needs animations though, seeing allos and gigas turning in place at the speed of sound holding one leg in the air like overgrown scaly flamingoes is stightly jarring.
lilac swallow
It surely needs animations
But lack of animations isnt an excuse to not use a basic and balancing mechanich
grand brook
it really depends on the server tbh, still if it was enforced i wouldn't mind
lilac swallow
I wouldnt really care of It being enforced if no alt turn players didnt act like the game was supposed to be that way, and if they didnt made balance suggestions around no alt turn
grand brook
oh yeah definetly
lilac swallow
Im fine just simply ignoring theyr servers
grand brook
overall if animations are added it would something interesting to look at, as 2 legged dinosaurs would require to take a couple of steps to completely turn around
lilac swallow
Idk if you played jwe but they have pretty good animations for everything turning around
blazing charm
@barren zephyr Aquatics are already planned, there's been tons of streams showing work on Deinosuchus recently.
indigo sun
Pretty sure there's also gotta be more substance than "add x"
lilac swallow
Actually saying add x isnt a suggestions is a demand
grand brook
@lilac swallow yeah the JWE ones are a good example
limpid dove
i don't wanna see my dinosaurs turn to ballerinas when they've gotta turn around cause someone bit me on the ass
but, yknow. i think it'd be pretty cool
wind sail
I used to enjoy using alt turn but then I started playing without it and honestly I prefer it without. I shouldn’t have to worry about getting behind a rex and then it just turning on it’s tip toes to bite me lmao
barren zephyr
You are the type of player that many here hate then
Imagine dying to a 2 hour utah as a 6 hour rex.
Yeah so balanced
ebon trout
Alt turn needs proper animations and proper turn speeds it's a joke atm
brittle bough
you probably shouldnt proceed to sit behind the rex tbf
lilac swallow
Would you eat if It hadnt animation?
I would
Im not fucking diying to a lack of animation
brittle bough
the animation tends to make it look more unrealistic/out of place/unreasonable than it is, so ehh
ebon trout
The animations and the speed do
brittle bough
and i think people are just not used to seeing large animals turn in place, so they think it just doesnt happen
lilac swallow
3 dinos has a overtuned alt turn thats all only these 3
ebon trout
It should happen but not as fast and not like a ballerina
brittle bough
the ballerina aspect is just the lack of animations
ebon trout
Yeah I've stated 3 times animations and speed need fixed
lilac swallow
The others arent fast
ebon trout
Rex is even to fast imo giga is just ridiculous.
lilac swallow
Rex fast?
ebon trout
Yeah it alt turns to fast mixes with broken hit boxes makes the game way less fun
lilac swallow
Dont tell me you are one of these that think this game is a fighting game
indigo sun
if youre a smart low or mid tier, you can absolutely get on a rex's ass even with alt turn
the broken hitboxes are getting fixed any way
lilac swallow
If you are smart you simply dont fight the rex
indigo sun
yeah that too
lilac swallow
Im not leging a Rex kill me
ebon trout
It's a survival horror game. Should be one even if your a rex. It's also a pvp game as stated by the devs so ya I expect balance
lilac swallow
I just run away
barren zephyr
and lot of luck tbh
lilac swallow
Balance is the speed a grow
ebon trout
Also a rex can eat you with it's ass due to bad hitboxes just. It is not fun
lilac swallow
Rex is slower has less stam and grow slower why the hell should It fear a fucking utah
indigo sun
like i said, hitboxes are getting fixed
ebon trout
Speed of grow can't be your only balance that's asinine
lilac swallow
And yeah Broken hitboxes doesnt matter as they are being fixed
indigo sun
it takes six hours to grow a rex but like 2 to grow a utah. the rex should very much have a huge advantage in that fight
ebon trout
It's a problem now and isn't fixed so yes it does matter
ebon trout
I never said it shouldn't have an advantage y'all can't read I. Afraid
indigo sun
yeah i was gonna pull that up
ebon trout
Im
indigo sun
And a rex shouldnt die to some assriding utah
ebon trout
I never said Utah once lol
lilac swallow
Is a example
indigo sun
So the servers where that does happen, those are perfectly balanced?
lilac swallow
And part of surviving is running
ebon trout
Y'all can't even read bo point in speaking with you good day tho
indigo sun
kay hon have a good day
brittle bough
dont be condescending considering you cant seem to read
lilac swallow
You dont get our point too
brittle bough
youve been putting words in their mouth the whole time though
what points are you making if you wont even acknowledge what theyre saying
ebon trout
Exactly
ebon trout
My point has been made already just takes a simple read over my comments
lilac swallow
I didnt understood your point and rereading wont help, pls tell me your point
brittle bough
basically they were saying rex's alt turn is a bit fast, giga's is ridiculous, and things should have some kind of chance to kill other things, however miniscule, as it's a survival horror game and there isnt a lot of horror to playing a rex other than starving to death
and somehow you all picked up that they want no alt turn at all
ebon trout
My point is alt turn is in a ridiculous state it's to fast and has no animations. A proper animation alone would slow it down most likely to a ok state
Slate said it better then I do lol
lilac swallow
And me showing that dondi image doesnt invalidate the "should stand a chance"?
brittle bough
and after you posted that image, nines still saw fit to put words in proxys mouth
ebon trout
A pack of them should have a viable chance yes
indigo sun
I dont think animations would slow it. I understand your point about fast alt turns, especially with giga, but that's something that could easily be fixed if you suggested giga's alt turn get slowed down. Giga's a bit fucked anyway right now
brittle bough
considering proxy never said alt turn should be removed
lilac swallow
As i said earlier, this as a survival game consist of surviving
ebon trout
It should be a survival game to rexes to
lilac swallow
And killing rexes is not how you survive It as an utah
ebon trout
Horror survival
brittle bough
to be fair the horror aspect is more for humans
lilac swallow
Horror id for humans and maybe juvies
ebon trout
I dunno when I'm a single rex and I see a pack of dilos I should be afraid
lilac swallow
A Rex having horror of something tat isnt a hyper doesnt make sense
Dilos can indeed kill rexes on alt turn
ebon trout
Never said they could not in perfect scenarios. All a alt turn rex needs to do now is sit against a rock or water and it's very safe
indigo sun
I'm scared of dilos as anything but a giga
brittle bough
[faint maia laughter]
indigo sun
well yeah that too but i dont play maia much
ebon trout
I wanna see a hypo Maia lol
brittle bough
its just actually sonic
ebon trout
Lol
lilac swallow
Hypoc carno?
ebon trout
While this topic is here, i think we should also bring up the negative effects the current alt turn has on mid tier battles. Balancing is a fickle beast, and right now you have some mid tiers that are balanced around their agility, or lack thereof the current animation less and speedy alt turns destroys this balance amongst mid tiers
neat flicker
I believe they'll be implementing an animation for alt turn sometime in the future so it may not be an immediate or fast turn like it is now, but only time will tell what they have planned for it
brittle bough
@cloud cosmos got any reason for those dinosaurs to be in the game? what would be their unique gameplay aspects and niches? youve gotta elaborate further than a massive list of a bunch of random dinosaurs you want in the game just for the sake of being there
indigo sun
Brachiosaurus is already planned as AI, tarbosaurus is never coming to the isle and neither is carcharodontosaurus since the first is a reskin of t rex and the second was actually just used for a giga model at one point
to add all of those they'd have to spend at least $217,000
cloud cosmos
Troodon has a venomous bite they could use that
blazing charm
Why did you have to make that so hard to read.
barren zephyr
lmao
brittle bough
isnt dilo meant to have venom lol
cloud cosmos
dilo wasn't actually venomous
ebon trout
Dilo is meant to have an anti coagulant type venom that causes mass bleed
indigo sun
dilo is going to have venom eventually
blazing charm
(1) Troodon technically isn't a thing, it's...I can't be bothered to type the name.
(2) Troodon didn't have a venomous bite in real life, so it'd have to be fantasized like Dilo.
subtle frigate
Pectinodon iirc
indigo sun
so other than troodon what would the others even possibly bring to the table
blazing charm
Let's go down the list, shall we?
Stygimoloch, it's literally just a smaller Pachycephalosaurus.
ebon trout
Cant be bothered it hurts my head just reading the first sentence It really needs some spaces in there haha
blazing charm
Iguanodon: This one actually interests me, I have some ideas about that one but I'm keeping it to myself for now.
indigo sun
iguanodon would be neat, i agree
ebon trout
Isnt an iguanodon just a smaller maia?
blazing charm
Not quite.
blazing charm
Anyway, Kentro does have some potential, but I personally can't see it being anything else other than a weaker Stego with passive damage via the spikes.
cloud cosmos
subtle frigate
Kentro has a model doesn't it?
cloud cosmos
that's an iguanodon
indigo sun
incredibly so
blazing charm
Alright, what else.
blazing charm
Aptato/Diplo/Brachi
We're supposed to be getting Bronto at somepoint, We have Cama and Brachi is on the way so, pointless.
Penta: Triceratops, next.
Sauropelta: Basically just Kentro with less spikes and more Anky armor.
still temple
thumb
subtle frigate
Wasn't it Apato we're getting not Bronto because I remember seeing a model with the neck spikes
grave karma
we dont really need another sauropod
blazing charm
Styraco: Honestly not sure about this one, as much as it would probably suit being a Diablo skin, it'd need a different bitbox due to the horns.
still temple
Pretty much only 1 dino from that entire list is interesting
blazing charm
I'm going down the entire list
subtle frigate
is it worth it
cloud cosmos
microraptor would be kinda cool
barren zephyr
microraptor 🤪
blazing charm
Sino: Damn, a Pachyrhino reskin
still temple
the rest are clones, clones and more clones. With the odd few that might be able to cut it only if a really good mechanic can be proposed
subtle frigate
Years ago micro was brought up and I think they said it was too small
brittle bough
too small, has been suggested a lot.
blazing charm
Microraptor is genuinely useless, please stop asking for it.
blazing charm
I'unno, general size. The small horn could be swapped out for the...whatever Pachyrhino has.
brittle bough
theyre trying to stick to things that are at least as tall as a human, i believe, a la utah and austro
still temple
Pachyrhino breaks bone, sino is basically styraco but close to trike size
Sino is larger than Pachyrhino
blazing charm
Eucephalo: It's just Anky.
Ourano: I'm keeping that one to myself
Nodosaurus: Sauropelta again.
Amarg: No.
still temple
still, as much as I like Sino, still a clone
torn thistle
Irritator is literally just Baryonyx
Slightly smaller but still basically the exact same animal
blazing charm
DESTROY.
Honestly, I legit can't see a single Carnivore that wouldn't just be a reskin.
torn thistle
Much as I'd like Concavenator, it'd just be a smaller Allo / skinnier Cerato
blazing charm
What would it have though?
still temple
Diabloceratops --> Triceratops
Maiasaura --> Parasaurolophus
Dryosaurus --> Gallimimus
Euoplocephalus --> Ankylosaurus 
Euoplo confirmed viable to be candidate
blazing charm
Heresy
blazing charm
Ceolo actually pains me
because I had an idea for it, only to realise said idea was awful
brittle bough
what was the idea lol
still temple
Qianzhou and Alioramus are literally the same thing. I don't think the guy actually read what he's typing in.
blazing charm
Horde mechanic. Player Ceolo's could summon weaker AI
AI would run the risk of turning on you if they aren't fed.
still temple
And smaller tyrannosaurid niche is already taken by Alberto. A shame. Long snout rex would be more interesting
still temple
Rugops has more of a chance since he already has calls and a model
blazing charm
Yeah, as AI
blazing charm
Oh boy
I love playing as weaker Carno
I'm just going to give the egg stealing mechanic I thought up for him to Herrera.
torn thistle
It'd help to explain what each animal could bring to the game mechanic wise instead of "Add it because it looks cool"
still temple
playing as weaker clone versions of dinosaurs is p cool and totally worth adding, according to survival mode
brittle bough
i mean if it did an unlocking system where playing the weaker version unlocked the better versionnn...
blazing charm
@torn thistle Can we please get a rules channel for suggestions or something.
@brittle bough NO. NOT PROGRESSION.
brittle bough
not like that lol
torn thistle
Cease
brittle bough
i mean, say, present all of the weaker options to start with
e.g. diablo, maia, and dryo
through playing them you can unlock their respective 'better' forms (trike, para, galli)
ionic comet
what about plateosaurus
ionic comet
model looked cool
brittle bough
and also you lost everything after death
blazing charm
I was considering doing a Suggestion doc for Plateo, but I literally just scrapped it a few hours ago.
ionic comet
why
blazing charm
Honestly, while I think it was perfectly playable, and pretty interesting in it's own right.
lament thorn
ya'll need to stop hating on the god which was prog
blazing charm
There are other creatures that can do it better.
brittle bough
guess ive just been dismissed, peace out ig
barren zephyr
@cloud cosmos Dondi already mocked Tarbosaurus
ionic comet
Its kinda an iguanodon since it does have spikes on its fingers
ionic comet
and feasibly could run on 2 legs maybe?
barren zephyr
blazing charm
Basically it was going to be something like Maia/Para, although able to defend itself from the front with the claws and stun attackers from behind with a tail swipe/slap.
But I feel like I need to tone down on the amount of playables I keep pushing for, so I put some on the cutting room floor.
ionic comet
this could be ai
barren zephyr
protoceratops
blazing charm
Yeah, that'd be fine AI.
Small, but could potentially murder Juvie raptors and whatnot.
barren zephyr
would give more food than velo, oro and taco but less than ava
perfect sub adult food?
blazing charm
sub adult food
barren zephyr
torn thistle
It'd be Psittaco but more bitey
blazing charm
and rammy, prickly
subtle frigate
taco quill shoot when
still temple
Giga clone: Mapu, Carchar, Tyrannotitan
Allo clone: Metri, Concav, Yuty, Torvo, Megalo, Eocarchar, Sinotyrannus
Alberto (sub rex) clone: Alio, Qianzhou, Daspleto, Gorgo, Appalachio, Alectro, drypto
Rex clone: Zhucheng, Tarbo
Carno clone: Majung, Skorpio, Raja, Kryptops, Rugops
Dilo clone: Cryo
Utah (small carni) clone: Troodon, Coelo, Dromaeo, Achillo
@cloud cosmos
still temple
ionic comet
would be nice if we had 1 of each dino from a different clade in survival like one ankylosaur, one sauropod, etc
brittle bough
im alright with 3 of a kind personally (3 ceratops/diablo-trike-ava, etc.)
still temple
Pachy clone: Stygi
Stego clone: Kentro
Anky clone: Edmontonia, Sauropelta, Euoplo, Nodo
Trike clone: Penta, Sino,
Diablo clone: Styraco
Maia clone: Ourano
Sauropods that serve no purpose whatsoever: Apato, Diplo, Amarga
@cloud cosmos
so yeah, only Iguanodon is left. We could use more large iguanodonts. Ourano would be cool as well, though the community generally wants the more iconic Iguanodon more
barren zephyr
How does Apato serve no porpuse
How does Diplo serve no porpuse
Explain me properly.
ionic comet
Still want pachyrhino to come..
torn thistle
There was that Apato model sitting in the backburner but
brittle bough
big sauropods tend to play the same to my experience in games that have multiples of them
they also tend to be either boring or op based on those same experiences lol
still temple
Brachio @barren zephyr . There's ur explanation.
no large sauropod is gonna be playable, Brachi being the only large sauropod ai is good enough
barren zephyr
@brittle bough "op" is subjective
its op for obvious reasons
and they should be op
still temple
backburner model basically equals not gonna be touched until after 1.0
barren zephyr
it would be the players fault for taking on them
brittle bough
more referring to the sauropods who decide to be rude and trample over players/chase them down/whatnot
sauropods in the game i played were fairly fast compared to what you would expect, combined with reasonable trample damage it wasnt a great time
barren zephyr
"chase them down"
CHASE THEM DOWN?
"trample over players"
but its the players fault
not the sauropod's
its the players fault for being too fucking close
still temple
explain to me how more sauropods would benefit the game greatly as of now
barren zephyr
and how is a sauropod gonna chase something die
brittle bough
"sauropods in the game i played were fairly fast compared to what you would expect"
barren zephyr
they would: Bring an extreme risk, extreme reward gameplay
Vulnerable younger stages
still temple
SO brachio
brittle bough
theyre either too fast, or so slow that whoever is playing them is bored to shit.
still temple
explain how Apato, Diplo would serve any purpose
barren zephyr
a camara is never going to catch up to a theropod
Slate.
Its your fault for letting it do so
its stronger than you
its tougher than you
brittle bough
im talking about other herbis
still temple
Reminder that no large sauropod is gonna be playable
barren zephyr
you are much faster than it
brittle bough
they were kfsing.
barren zephyr
even a trike's sprint is faster than camara's sprint
brittle bough
you seem to keep missing the part where i said they were too fast, to make them not boring as piss to play. and you keep ignoring flaffy.
still temple
what can Apato and Diplo bring to the table that Brachio doesn't
cloud cosmos
easier food than a brachi
still temple
Not a good reason to spend 7000$ on 2 dinos that's just gonna be weaker brachios
Want easier food? hunt weaker AI or other players
barren zephyr
@cloud cosmos not easy at all
ionic comet
@barren zephyr Cama has a possibility of getting implemented into survival. Isn't that already enough considering how many times the devs said they aren't going to add them as playables yet are attempting to now
barren zephyr
A single neck slam could cripple an apex
brittle bough
so youre saying that they would be the same as brachi then lol
still temple
since ur anal about science and stuff, I assume you know that brontosmash is still highly speculative
barren zephyr
Ask Rizky that
Ask Randomdinos that
There is evidence of supportive reinforcements on apatosaurus's neck fossils
torn thistle
Oi.
ebon trout
If your way to justify something is saying Ask this person you should probably form your own opinion 😄
barren zephyr
and dont come with the "you started it"
if i started it
then i can end it
Now peace out
brittle bough
never even responded to me lul, but ight sure
still temple
night mountain
lmaooo how on EARTH does someone get themselves killed by a cama
the only possible excuse would be if you were trying to hunt it or something
or if you were like a slow hatchling maybe
worthy tusk
What would be The Isle's version of Scruff McGruff?
lilac swallow
Do you really think that #general-feedback-discussion is the best place to ask this?
worthy tusk
Considering I saw both suggestions & discussions in this chat title, I figured you guys would have the badges to handle this pokemon
lilac swallow
Just go to #401470471750811669
neat flicker
@worthy tusk Probably would be best to be asked in #401470471750811669, this channel is more for discussion of suggestions made in the #general-feedback
@barren zephyr Please do not write troll suggestions with only two words and input meaningful suggestions as trolls can get you kicked from the discord, galli already has a jump, thank you.
barren zephyr
"troll"
i dont post troll suggestions.
its more of me complaining about the game, not troll.
but understood, i guess
neat flicker
When you post "galli jump", that's not a suggestion for anything and doesn't provide any context 👍
barren zephyr
yep, i understand that.
the part that i didnt understand was how you called it a troll suggestion, thats all
brittle bough
a troll suggestion is a meaningless/useless suggestion, or one done as a joke
brittle bough
a la saying "buff rex"
barren zephyr
?
brittle bough
.. just suggesting "galli jump" is like saying "buff rex", it has no substance nor context and is hard to take seriously, thus called a troll suggestion. :v
barren zephyr
i didnt type it as a joke tho
ebon trout
Slate stop feeding the troll 😉
neat flicker
Let's move on from this discussion. If you need more clarity about what I meant, please feel free to PM me
barren zephyr
nah im done with this discussion
thorny lynx
Didn't Rex have a septic bite, too?
indigo sun
huh?
thorny lynx
Actually
paper oriole
Rex certainly doesnt need it in isle
thorny lynx
The proposal of T-Rex having a septic bite came from the old theory that Komodo Dragons had a septic bite from bacteria in their mouths, which scientists have proven false, as they discovered Komodo dragons have venom sacs in their jaws which ooze venom when they bite down on prey.
So maybe, Rex didn't have a septic bite after all. However, I do, mechanically, think the septic bite fits Cerato for being the 'vulture' of the Dinosaur world. A gross animal (vultures piss on their legs to cool them down and kill bacteria) who consistently scavenges rotting flesh.
blazing charm
What's this in reference to?
thorny lynx
Your Cerato having a septic bite
Honestly, though, I think a lot of dinosaurs should drool at some point
blazing charm
Oh, wow. Wasn't aware people were still reading it.
thorny lynx
Honestly, this conversation reminds me of that one vine]
'Oh my god, is that a mini dinosaur?'
'No, you dumb bitch, that's a kramoda dragon.'
"ah, true!'
night mountain
Komodos functionally do have a septic bite, in a really roundabout way. Their venom makes wounds bleed a lot and stay open, and most large mammals they live with when they get bitten go run off and hide in mud wallows which are like 75% water buffalo shit and get really horrible infections from it. So like it ends up basically working as a septic bite haha
barren zephyr
oh its a meme.
indigo sun
@paper crag @bright elm you should be discussing suggestions here, not on the suggestions channel
paper crag
Regardless the mix packing is not a realistic rule, and the trikes cant mix pack is included look at dino digs they are all mixed
indigo sun
Trikes cant mixpack because of herbivore death squads and players did this to themselves. The server rules do not aim to be realistic.
neat flicker
Like Nines mentioned, the #general-feedback page isn't the place to discuss your opinions. If you would like, you can post in the #401481402782056460 to give constructive feedback and how you would balance between the rules if you'd like
paper crag
There's to many forum pages you have 3 pages to do the same thing
neat flicker
The official servers do not have realism rules, if you don't agree with it, there's plenty of other private realism servers that would pander more closely to how these dinos would have reacted and lived
paper crag
So what's the real reason behind the rules?
Is it server load problems? Where packs cant be big with over 100 players?
indigo sun
To keep order in the servers and not have everything gone to hell
Herbivore death squads with trikes were overly aggressive. I dont like that they cant mixpack, but herbivores were actively hunting down carnivores
And its not alright
neat flicker
It's to keep balance and try to keep the population overall happy. If you would like to discuss the rules, feel free to join the #401464048610312195 or you can PM Punchpacket if you would like more clarity on the reasons for the rules set in place.
This section is to discuss suggestions put forth by other players, thank you!
paper crag
That's how it started I put it in the suggestion page and reasoning behind it
night mountain
What did you even want anyway, didn't see it
paper crag
Told that's not the place for that and it was here now I'm told to change again
indigo sun
Mixpacking
I believe with rex and utah and then utah and trike
I couldnt understand it horribly well
brittle bough
you were told to move because you and someone else were posting stuff other than suggestions in the suggestions channel
night mountain
just go to servers that allow that then lol
paper crag
That was just an example, Alex to none apex
brittle bough
i.e. discussing the suggestion
then just now you asked about a rule, which isnt related to discussing a suggestion
night mountain
then those end up being scouts which can get pretty awful pretty quick
indigo sun
Carnivores should never be able to mix pack. Herbivores should and I feel honestly bad for trike players but it happened and now we have to wait
neat flicker
You were told to come here if you were discussing a suggestion, not a server rule. If you want to discuss rules, you can visit the #401464048610312195. If you have an issue or would like a further explanation for the rules, feel free to PM Punchpacket
paper crag
The suggestion was an idea to balance with my thought and I was told to come here
Then I asked if anyone knew the reason since I was already talking about a suggestion
neat flicker
The suggestions tab is to input a suggestion, you were submitting a suggestion and talking about trikes mixpacking. Go to the appropriate tab #401464048610312195 to discuss the rules.
night mountain
Carnivores should only be allowed to mixpack if you're ERPing
paper crag
Erping?
indigo sun
Erotic role playing
night mountain
paper crag
Hows that have anything to do with mixpacking
indigo sun
It was a joke
rigid tartan
yo people when u make a suggestion bare in mind theres a difference between "realism for the sake of fun." and "realism for the sake of realism". realism for the sake of realism, generally is cool and fun for like 5minutes then its boring and or just annoying. try not to add suggestions that are literally just "well THESE animals do it like THIS" , or "well actually i think you'll find they were more like this". its a game. it needs to be fun and engaging.
brittle bough
animals shit so there should be a shitting mechanic because realism
rigid tartan
@brittle bough i like your thinking
night mountain
I actually really want a shitting mechanic for ptera
trying to poop on apexs would be the most fun thing in the entire damn game
rigid tartan
unless they add like dino's shit being food for another dino.. or some sort of valuable resource for the humans. i dont see it being added.
mellow fox
@blazing charm I honestly like the septic bite idea for Cetatosaurus, I was thinking of something like that as well
rigid tartan
at this point aren't all "DoT" effects just essentially bleed knock offs.
need something more unique.
mellow fox
I personally think, giving it a stacking slow from minor to major, depending on the amount of bites could be also considered as an option
It would mimic paralyzing, since septic bacteria often do that
barren zephyr
high bleed and bone break are the same thing its crazy
night mountain
i like the affinity lowering
i still like my cerato musk suggestion where if it sprays you you light up on everyones smell for a good while
bam no one wants to deal with it
rigid tartan
yeah i like the idea of a dino that excels at tracking
works in the rain, boom unique dino
lol
mellow fox
And it would emphasize into Cetatosaurus' good turning radius, if you can grab hold on someone with your septic slowing, you can juke them fantastically with the run turn and maim them
rigid tartan
giga doesnt need any more tricks.
night mountain
give giga a jump
rigid tartan
night mountain
proportionally the size of utahs
night mountain
lmao
i still say the best way to fix apex populations is to make them all feathered
watch the population cut in half instantly
grave karma
inflate gigas dewlap to fly
grave karma
give giga feathers but they look like wrinkles like the old dryo
mellow fox
It's like Stego with feathers
rigid tartan
i do like the idea of a poison dinosaur tho.. not one that can inflict poison directly but IS poisonous if eaten/bitten, to deter bigger dino's from hunting it unless EXTREMELY necessary
night mountain
make giga cockatiel colored/patterned and rex could be a lovebird
rigid tartan
like poison spines.
grave karma
make every apex skin bright pink
rigid tartan
be so fun "go ahead giga.. bite me.. make my day"
grave karma
but whatever the devs do, please dont put white as the body4 skin
night mountain
devs PLS
rigid tartan
@grave karma rex , anjanath from MHW skin when
night mountain
Yes, crocodiles can eat food in water. They can't eat underwater though, or at least not without swallowing a shitload of water.
I thiiink the plan is for bodies to float?
pulsar lake
Thank you
shell mica
The water in this game is transparent. It's really bad.
pulsar lake
They will increase it. It won't be like that in the future
shell mica
nice
mellow fox
To my knowledge, Acro has been vanquished into the shadow realm it will be AI only
Along with Baryonyx and Shant
rough acorn
no way...
lilac swallow
A shame because i allways like bary more than sucho
rough acorn
Acro has been a favorite of mine since i was a kid, sucks it wont be playable in the future
mellow fox
I mean, Baryonyx has no reason to be in the game when Spino and Austro is finished, Shant neither because of Camara and Parasaurolophus... And Acrocanthosaurus, as much as I like it, is just a fat Allo with Rex ambush, as well as Giganotosaurus being a thing
But I agree, it sucks 😞
At least for Acrocanthosaurus
lilac swallow
What i meant with bary is that it could have been a better mid sized aquatic than sucho as sucho is pretty big
mellow fox
Shant can rot in hell
lilac swallow
Shant is just a hadrosaur skin for a sauropod
rough acorn
I thought Acro could be a good equalizer to the Spinos as its land based
mellow fox
Thing is, Sucho is better because Deinosuchus and Spinosaurus will be a thing and Baryonyx would be bullied to high heavens. As well as, with a semi-aquatic, you either has to be Austro level of fast to evade predators or beefy enough to hold territory
mellow fox
Sucho is better suited for the latter, to secure ponds and rivers and being able to at least repell Allos in the future when it will be more defense oriented
And it's fast enough to run from things bigger than it
Baryonyx imo would be constantly bullied by Allo, Cerato
So I kinda agree with Sucho being the Dev choice. Even though I like Bary more as well
lilac swallow
You made me understand the sucho choice
rough acorn
ill like Sucho when its Juvie can run faster than a human lol
only thing you can catch is a Taco
lilac swallow
I will like the game in general when juvies arent better at afking rather than actually playing
mellow fox
I think we should move to #401464048610312195
lilac swallow
True
rough acorn
yea
night mountain
lets nerf acros damage and health but also make it even bigger
rough acorn
turn the glass cannon into a Balloon? Sure!
indigo sun
Acro is oversized and needs to be made smaller, so i agree with making the model smaller to make it fit the weight it should be.
barren zephyr
@rough acorn I kinda like acro being this big
for a weird reason
its like being this big fits its role of being
a pseudo-apex
looks huge and intimidating
but is nothing but a mid tier killer
indigo sun
Its way too oversized
rough acorn
The Camera angle is broken too
indigo sun
Unless its irl the same size as rex and giga, make it smaller
rough acorn
and it weighs 4.7 tons in game but more massive than a Spino
barren zephyr
irl acro is way smaller
indigo sun
Yeah so make it closer to its real life size estimates
rough acorn
Yes
blazing charm
@rough acorn Acro needs alot more than just a size adjustment. If you're wanting it to be playable that is.
rough acorn
@blazing charm Ok, what would you say it needs in simple terms
blazing charm
Well, it needs some kind of unique mechanic, something to help differ it from other playables.
I had an idea myself for one, but I'm honestly unsure if it'd still work.
You don't have to make a document like I did, I just did it because it's a nice way to convey a large amount of information without clogging up the Suggestions channel.
Jeez, looking back on this. Gonna have to redo the entire thing once the code rework is out.
rough acorn
Wow, this is really well thought out. I really appreciate your hard work making this. When you ever update it please let me know or DM me I would love to check it out. your Ideas are spot on!
@blazing charm
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr lets not bring back the black+green neon dino skins please.
Its not just disgusting to see
but also decreases chances to survive
in survival
lilac swallow
Why dont let people freedom, i want blacks to parts of my dinos
indigo sun
I want some damn greens for camoflauge
I'm sick of catshit colors
I want actual green
barren zephyr
@lilac swallow freedom =/= immersion/horror/realism
How the fuck is it horror to see a green neon pink allo running around
indigo sun
i'm sorry boohoo youre gonna see some neon colors but oh well. some people want legit camoflauge
They only asked for the brighter greens available for dilos to be available to other dinosaurs
night mountain
nothing in the entire game is horror
indigo sun
no one said jack shit about neon pink so i dont know where you got that
lilac swallow
A fucking dryo doesnt give horror
night mountain
the only spooky thing at all would be that tisso giga with humans at night
barren zephyr
The game is supposed to be horror focused.
night mountain
well its not
barren zephyr
@lilac swallow Herbis are fine.
night mountain
literally nothing is scary at all on any level
lilac swallow
Im tired of having the fucking same skin on all my dinos
indigo sun
Okay and part of horror is hiding yourself, is it not? I cant do that with only greys and blacks and browns. because there's more than that in the landscape. There are brighter greens in the map
night mountain
super mario 64 is a genuinely scarier game
barren zephyr
Neon Greens and Reds are not gonna help you.
fathom harness
. . . The scary part is night, and you can't see color at night with the current nv system so why not allow some brighter colors? Especially for males.
lilac swallow
And btw wit our current colors people still do shit skins, they wont do worse ones with more colors
indigo sun
regardless of horror, colors that are useful for camoflauge, like some of what dilophosaurus has, would be perfectly fine for other carnivores. Dilos are not neon green. Youre overexaggerating
barren zephyr
Hurr durr muh edgy green neon + black gigosurssuzzz im so collzz
indigo sun
No one's asking for that get off your fuckin high horse or whatever youre on
lilac swallow
You talking like im some kind of edgy
barren zephyr
nno
night mountain
I still completely genuinely want a muted purple body color for rex
barren zephyr
No
indigo sun
we're asking for some better fuckin colors than catshit, grey and brown
barren zephyr
I mean the players that want non colors.
indigo sun
well that wasnt the point of the suggestion
night mountain
It's almost like some animals have bright colors
indigo sun
the point was asking for colors like what dilo has to be made available for other dinosaurs
lilac swallow
We have fucking banana color they cant make worse skins with neon green
indigo sun
so maybe read next time
barren zephyr
You can easily make a good green skin look natural, rightfully camouflaged while looking nice at the same time. Triceratops is a big example, people go all black because it lacks good patterns, but if you explore it more you can always make a good skin that looks nice, not everything gotta look bright and all pastel colored just because "muh cool"
indigo sun
There's nothing wrong with having more options though, is there?
night mountain
no
barren zephyr
Just add different patterns.
lilac swallow
But muh inmersion
barren zephyr
The store page refers this game as Realistic, Gritty and "world designed to kill you"
Your pastel colored shit doesnt work here
night mountain
we should have free reign of colors basically, maybe minus weird shit like neon radioactive pink or whatever
indigo sun
i dont see why youre so against this. no one asked for bright neon green, no one asked for purple or pink. we asked for some lighter greens to blend in with the landscape
lilac swallow
Do you think neón green is worse
night mountain
lmao sorry not everyone wants an edgeasaurus
fathom harness
Well why not more colors found in birds?
night mountain
not every dinosaur needs to look like shadow the hedgehog
barren zephyr
Okay, then dont complain when some predator saw you from miles due to your glowing radiation levels of red and black
lilac swallow
I wont
barren zephyr
It will be your fault
fathom harness
Not asking for everyone to be a "edgeasaurus" but some people like variety.
indigo sun
i would love some variety
lilac swallow
I like variety
barren zephyr
Their "variety" is edgy neon greens and reds.
lilac swallow
I wont be a fucking glowing stick
indigo sun
instead of people crying about how all we do is make edgey dinosaurs
lilac swallow
Our variety is fucking banana
fathom harness
I already love my trike skin, its subdued colors that blend in well with the landscape.
indigo sun
It's called being smart when making a fucking skin. It's very simple, but that doesnt seem to be sticking in your head
barren zephyr
its not smart to request colors that are too bright
lilac swallow
If we can have banana skins we can have almost everything
barren zephyr
People already do Black and Neon Green on their Dinos still. I just want to have some old colors returned like they used to have. If I want to be an Oreo rex, then Ima be one. Black makes for some pretty killer camo too.
night mountain
i want everything to have a shitload of color options. Who cares if someone tries to be a neon orange rex and get eaten
barren zephyr
Wolf girl definitely cant survive properly
lilac swallow
I want options maybe dont use them but i want options
fathom harness
Some people don't want the same skins/colors and I respect that.
indigo sun
we're not asking for this
night mountain
my goto giga skin is bright orange with blue highlights lmao
lilac swallow
Im fucking tired of being puke green+brown
indigo sun
we're asking for simple greens that can help with camo
barren zephyr
I don't seem to take the game as seriously as you do. I am fine if I get eaten or I don't blend in, that's fine with me either way.
night mountain
At the very least all dinosaurs should have access to all the colors in game imo
barren zephyr
You bought the wrong game if iyou bought it expecting to be all charmy and unstoppable. its meant to be a hardcore game.
indigo sun
something like this would not be "Uh muh edgey green dino"
lilac swallow
For fucks sake we actually can go fucking banana
indigo sun
seriously, chill the fuck out when people want normal ass camoflauge colors
fathom harness
When you buy the Isle, your signing up to be eaten. You die. It's an unforgiving game. That's a given.
night mountain
how is someone saying this when their icon is a sparky bright gold dragon lol
barren zephyr
Then why does it pain for you to have higher chances of survival
fathom harness
The difference is some people want a couple more pattern options and a few other colors.
barren zephyr
I would just enjoy having access to the Dilo colors for the Dilo and allowing some of them for other Dinos too, the blacks and greens do work pretty well together.
You see what I mean
I really want pattern options too
lilac swallow
If we can have fucking banana rexes running around and they dont break your inmersion let people more colors
indigo sun
why is it so bad to camoflauge yourself to try and survive better?
then ASK FOR FUCKIN PATTERN VARIATIONS
barren zephyr
but radiation-edgy skins kill the immersion of a gritty, realistic, hardcore game.
lilac swallow
Hear me for once
indigo sun
Fuckin scroll up and look at the colors
lilac swallow
We have fucking bananas
barren zephyr
Tentacle, sure the current state might not be
indigo sun
No one asked for bright ass neon green. We asked for some normal not catpuke
barren zephyr
but its fated to be like that
lilac swallow
There is no more disgusting that this yet we have it
night mountain
shaved raptors literally erotic roleplaying on top of crates sure is gritty content
barren zephyr
I mean... You desire a realistic game yet we can have a banana looking Dino, you ask for more patterns which would be cool but what type? Like go in depth a bit of what you would want.
Thats their players fault.
not the dinosaurs and the game.
fathom harness
There are yellow variations. Why can't have a subdued Jade green color?
indigo sun
no one even uses yellow beyond making cool or stupid skins
night mountain
spinos that are psychic and eyeless and also control the weather sure are realistic
barren zephyr
Patterns that could camouflage better while looking nice
fathom harness
Or you get nested in with the weirdest colors ever. Lol! XD
barren zephyr
So the Greens, Browns and Blacks with a pattern would look great.
indigo sun
so we can have nasty ass bright yellows but not normal greens found in nature?
fathom harness
What about some cassowary blue for crest colors?
barren zephyr
Yet you bash me and say I cannot survive well enough because I ask for more colors?
lilac swallow
No nines It seems we cant
barren zephyr
tentacle you are killing what the game store's page offers
indigo sun
no one's looking like my bearded dragon in this game
Youre getting off topic. Respond to the actual conversation instead of arguing about some dumb shit
lilac swallow
Stop ignoring the yellow argument
night mountain
the game itself kills what the store page offers
barren zephyr
Depends what Kind of Yellow you want. Like... Bright yellows or dark yellows?
because it is in a super early state and its not the games fault
but the players.
indigo sun
@night mountain if youre gonna continue an argument not about the suggestion, can y'all just take it elsewhere? we're trying to have an on topic conversation
lilac swallow
May as well get rid of every color and just be all brown
fathom harness
To be fair, if you are a full adult rex I doubt whatever color you are is going to help that much with camo just from your sheer size.
indigo sun
youd be surprised what good camo can do in the right areas
barren zephyr
Putting this here
Haha, all brown huh? Atleast we can blend in with the dirt and logs.
fathom harness
And not to mention colors and patterns on animals in nature have a lot more purpose than just camouflage.
night mountain
Why are you tagging me in it im nit the one who keeps bringing up the games store page and whatever lol
barren zephyr
Then you are doing good
you are surviving
you brang up the game not trying to be realistic
but the developer and the game store really mentions it
indigo sun
@barren zephyr can you also not continue your dumbass argument here
barren zephyr
so i brang it too
indigo sun
If youre gonna talk in here, talk about the suggestions and the arguments we are making for it instead of acting like literal children
barren zephyr
All I'm trying to do is to refuse neon or bright edgy dinosaurs running around because thats not what the game intends the horror + grit to be like. I'll never accept bright reds, greens,blues on predators or maybe herbivores for all of that.
although I DO want more variety by suggesting different skin pattenrs
patterns
lilac swallow
Guys
indigo sun
so then we can get rid of yellows then? why can we have banana yellow but not natural greens
barren zephyr
I dont like the bright yellows either, i suggest toning them down just aswell
night mountain
You can literally have a power rangers pack of carnos, thats gritty realism to you? lol
fathom harness
Colors and patterns on animals in nature have a lot more purpose than just camouflage.
indigo sun
should i bring up examples of green animals that use that shit for camo?
do i really need to do that?
night mountain
lol
barren zephyr
I just dont want bright skins to kill the game's mood, immersion and horror.
indigo sun
finite viper
Hi how to get terezino?
barren zephyr
Not a survival dinosaur
indigo sun
wrong channel
lilac swallow
@finite viper no proper chat to ask read the rules
finite viper
Ok
barren zephyr
Okay? The game still implies a HORROR survival game
barren zephyr
We do have great access to alot of different browns and have some greens but adding back/in the Dilos Greens and thr Giga 5 black for the Body 1/2 slots.
If someone desires to have an almost Neon Green/Yellow Dino then that's okay. It's what some folks like, could even present as a challenge to survive.
If you don't like it, then that's cool but no need to bash some folk if they desire to be funky looking creatures.
Thats not what gritty+horror brings
indigo sun
what does that have to do with color options that allow for better camoflauge in the environment?
barren zephyr
sure real life animals can be bright
but this is a(once again) gritty and a horror survival game.
indigo sun
do you know what those animals use that green for
blending in with the leaves, grass and other green shit in their environment
night mountain
"The game still implies a HORROR survival game" Well its not, and likely never will be.
indigo sun
"this is a horror game so you cant blend in" is the dumbest fucking argument every
FUCKING TAKE YOUR SHIT ARGUMENT ELSEWHERE I SWEAR TO FUCK
Get the fuck out if youre gonna keep bringing up the damn store page
fathom harness
Stop arguing "gritty and horror", that has little to do with colors. If I'm a juvie trike and I get attacked by a bright green and pink dilophosaur, you can bet I'm still as scared as if it were jet black and brown.
indigo sun
"gritty and horror" does not mean "shit browns and grey"
lilac swallow
A yellow Rex and a camoed one scares me the same
brittle bough
we can be bright white currently, wtf are yall on about with "but green is bad because camo" lmfao
fathom harness
@barren zephyr And thank you for acknowledging my previous statement.
barren zephyr
Do you still feel the same immersion by being attacked by a pastel colored radioactive dinosaur than something that can easily stalk you and ambush you a t any time.
feral wedge
Oi
indigo sun
it means trying to survive in your environment to the best of your abilities and that sometimes means using greens
oh wow, what a crazy idea, normal colors animals use
barren zephyr
No problem, I agree with you but my response is getting somewhat pushed down by all the chatter.
indigo sun
sorry
feral wedge
Y’all calm down or I’ll remove you from the conversation altogether.
night mountain
The current color system is the true scary aspect of the game, he's technically right lol
indigo sun
tell them to stop bringing up something not at all related to the discussion please
cause i'm getting damn sick of it
lament thorn
what are you guys even talking about?
fathom harness
Yes'sir. Anyway, if anyone has any comment actually related to color schemes, I'll be watching the chat. 😃
barren zephyr
Okay then, go have your dreamy bright ass skinny colorations. but please do not complain or get salty when your hiding does not work because your color choices does not fit the envinronment. That is why you make skins supposed to blend in with certain foliage, if you people are just making cool bright skins just to look flashy then it will be your problem and you'll still be killing the future horror of this game
fathom harness
@lament thorn Colors for dinosaurs.
lament thorn
Well i know that but whats got everyone so shook
lilac swallow
Who?
indigo sun
And i'm gonna be honest, i dont care what people do with their dinosaurs. it's not their job to act how you want them to. If they want softer and greener greens, then let them instead of acting like an ass when someone makes a suggestion
barren zephyr
No problem, Gar.
Also Purple, why do I feel like I know you from somewhere. I think I have seen you before within a server..
I never ever implied that i want everything to be dark grey and green/brown
indigo sun
then why are you throwing a fit
because all youre doing is whining instead of offering any sort of criticism
if you have a discussion about the suggestion, please lets hear it
feral wedge
I think it might be best for y’all to just move on 
fathom harness
@barren zephyr I do believe we may have herded together as Triceratops on a server before. ☺
barren zephyr
We just had a 20 minute discussion about a dinosaur coloration suggestion. you had it and i bought my points, but its not worth it anymore since everyone here wanna be pastel colored
Yeah, I was nested in I think. My colors looked like a dulled down Volcano and it was awesome!
I wont care anymore about that too
barren zephyr
and i brang a reason why i dont want them
fathom harness
Yep! I think it was me that nested you. I still use the same skin even now. 😃
feral wedge
There’s already edgy shit and people will always try to make it.
gritty helm
^^^
lilac swallow
Exactly gar
feral wedge
Now that’s enough, unless y’all can keep it civil.
lilac swallow
Yeah sorry
barren zephyr
Okay
night mountain
I want a muted purple for rex
brittle bough
monster you do know that adding a bright green wont delete all the other options right? its like saying that since we have bright white currently, everyone will ignore camouflage to be bright white. 's a bit silly, is all
lilac swallow
And no one is forcing you to use these skins neither
brittle bough
aye, like lizard/anole greens
barren zephyr
You are gonna be sealing your fate by not being able to properly hide. for now i'll no longer care about that
lament thorn
Yeh not a fan of that
indigo sun
i brought up several examples of animals that use greens
brittle bough
..we already can with white though, is the thing
lament thorn
most modern lizards are rather bright but thats because their environment is
lilac swallow
If i seal my fate isnt your matter
brittle bough
by all means, i can just be solid white and say fuck it to camo if i want to. thats.. my choice for my gameplay, it doesnt really affect you
barren zephyr
exactly