#general-feedback-discussion

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marble ether
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if they wander too far

misty island
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Na I support dragon

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It gives carni a way better edge

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Knowing what kind of prey in which area

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It’s just not fair

marble ether
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you can be anywhere you want

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with grass

misty island
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Herbis are already passive enough by game style

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True

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But you get punished for not staying in one area is absurd

grand brook
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not when they are very small, that's why deer fawns are born with natural camouflage, same with boarlets and ratites chicks

marble ether
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maybe have food spawn randomly across the map, all kinds of it

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but have an abundance of the food you need

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in a certain biome

misty island
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I do support the fact that biome enhance the rate of certain food

grand brook
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it just doesn't make sense for a carnivore to have food served right next to you

misty island
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Say redwood has more chance of trike food

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That’s cool

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It’s my choice as a trike to go there

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Not being forced to

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And if I don’t choose to I will not punish for it

marble ether
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it will just be harder to find the food you really need in the wild

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ofc still being able to eat grass

misty island
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Umm

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Two argument points

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Grass is not a thing when dinos were around d

marble ether
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grazing will be a thin tho

misty island
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And doubt they could ingest it

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But

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It’s a game

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No one cares

grand brook
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carnivore diet is based on a high risk but high reward system, you might starve more quickly as you cannot eat everything but the food you do eat is extremely nutritious

misty island
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Tho if herbis can graze in every single location

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What is the point of bushes

marble ether
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"Fossil dung reveals dinosaurs did graze grass. One of the most common “mistakes” in the prehistoric book is not wrong after all – dinosaurs did eat grass. Textbooks have long taught that grasses did not become common until long after the dinosaurs died at the end of the Cretaceous period, 65 million years ago."
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grand brook
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herbivores on the other hand have food all around, but that food is of poor nutritional quality for the most part

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so in that sense, a change could be made

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ai shouldn't spawn right in your face when you hit 70% hunger

marble ether
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could have growth issues for species that only eat grass

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or sickness

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also, I think 99% of the community already agreed numerous times that ai spawning like that needs to be changed

misty island
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Ok

marble ether
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yuumi, that's already been suggested numerous times also

misty island
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Side note

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Wtf is this

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The dung fossil that found glass micro structure was likely from a titanosaur

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A sauropod weighted over 100 ton

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So my question is

marble ether
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I don't know anything about that btw, just googled quick cuz I was interested

misty island
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How did it even eat it

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Same

marble ether
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grass couldve been a lot longer

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they also needed to drink

misty island
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But a titanosaur

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Although

marble ether
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so they have to be able to get their head down

misty island
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Banana is technically grass

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So many questions..... is it really grass they ate or a plant that shares the same structure that were thought to be exclusive in grass

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So confused

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Ok back to the discussion

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I wrote some suggestion tackling both game play and the way food spawn a while back

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Don’t know if you guys read it

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If you guys want I can repost it

marble ether
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maybe post it here?

misty island
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Territory and Ai Suggestions

The idea contains two parts, the first is a territorial system that involves adding environmental footprints. Whilst the second part adds benefits and disadvantages for both carnivores and herbivores within or out of the territory they control.
In general, environmental footprints (may it be poop, tree marks, or whatever) would come in different sizes and appear in different colours according to their host’s diet under Q mode when a player sniffs.
Having an alternative way to indicate a solo/group’s territory would let players avoid territories held by different dinos and allow hunters to locate their prey in a more generic location while only providing minimum informations. This would not only add a new play style for dinos on the both sides but also make scavenging carnivores possible. Moreover it makes the game more dynamic in many different ways.
When a territory is marked, it would spawn AIs according to its owners diet. But mostly a grade/size lesser than the territory’s owners which would not danger the adults but add risks on the juvis and hatchlings to discourage mass group nesting or afk growth.
For herbivores, Carnivores Ai spawned would endanger the younger member of the herd yes, but it could also be used to warn if there’s any larger predators around. Moreover, knowing that there would be AIs that would interfere with the fight, even apex predators will have to choose their battle more seriously instead of just initiating the first chance they see something that moves.

marble ether
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I'll try making a suggestion somewhere later with what I've discussed here

misty island
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As for carnivores, the current ai spawning system is a great lifeline, but it spawns ai far too close to the player. And basically rewards the player for not doing anything. But if it were to change into a territorial spawn, where AIs would only spawn outside but near a carnivores marked territory. It would have to make players work more and take more risks for them to get food. As carnivores will now have to venture out more to find food and possibly defend their territory to secure a constant food supply and not just afk in a place while waiting for AIs to spawn in their mouths.

Right before someone say it’s super abusable, we can reduce the ai carnivores food amount to 10% of their player counterpart <—there

But no matter if you are either a nesting/roaming herbivores or carnivores you will be able to make use of the territory system, so what do u guys think??? #general-feedback-discussion

TL;DR :
Mark territory, the bigger you have it the better.
Area size, host size can be seen under Q
Herbi Ai spawns outside but close to Carni Territory
Carni Ai Spawns inside but far from players in Herbi territory

[For herbivores:
When there are adults in their territory, they would give their offspring bonus to growth speed, maybe a 30% or so buff
The bonus for babies would be lost if any player carnivores ventures into herbi territory/Herbis of difference species making a nest.] <----- credit @Why Watt

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There

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So basically herbi food spawns everywhere

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But concentrates in their marked territory

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Carni food spawns outside of their territory

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And holding a territory gives herbis a growth bonus

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When parents are around

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And ai carni spawns inside herbi territory to terrorise the babas

marble ether
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I see 1 problem with apexes hiding in corners of maps marking their territory there

misty island
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Affinity

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But that’s too brutal

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The way I prefer is that

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Devs would balance it

marble ether
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we need a way to force people to move

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that's imo the biggest problem

misty island
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So that the territory would only sustain an apex with large enough land

marble ether
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we need to somehow promote people to not sit in a same place

misty island
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Well

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That’s one of the problem I tackled

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If you as a carni

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Don’t get food

marble ether
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idk if territories are a solution

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it's just a quick fix imo

misty island
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Unless you announce to anyone who comes near where you are

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Or else you don’t get food

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Can you imagine how scared you would be

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Or can you imagine how scavengers could actually hide in apex territory

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To evade predators

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Or younger dinos running from herbis

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Also on the forcing people to move

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You shouldn’t really force people to move

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But instead you reward them for moving

marble ether
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problem is, we gotta make it so it isn't hard to understand to new plaers

misty island
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There’s a huge difference

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I mean

marble ether
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how would you explain to mark your territory

misty island
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It’s already hard to learn where water is

marble ether
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sniffing

misty island
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If you had to figure it out yourself

marble ether
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walk and sniff

misty island
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Honestly

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If you are completely new

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And you spawn next to the beach

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You don’t have a map

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And you have to find water in 15 minute before you die

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15 minute of commitment in walking a single direction out of 360 degrees

marble ether
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it's longer than 1 min tho

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15

misty island
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No new player can make that mental decision

marble ether
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I think it's like 20 for most before u start taking damage

misty island
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It is very tough decision making actually

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Well

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But you get the idea

marble ether
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u can still survive about 10 ish mins before u die then

misty island
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Ya but they don’t know that

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They gonna flip shit when their water hits 40%

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I mean I would

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If I know there’s not water nearby and I am a juvi giga

marble ether
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yeah but that's something u learn after dying of dehydration once, no?

misty island
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Exactly

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The point I am trying to make is

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The game already encourages learning by trial and error

marble ether
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yeah I like that

misty island
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So it doesn’t really matter much

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If you add a mechanic that doesn’t affect them much

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But would be offer more help as you are more familiar to the game

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That’s why herbi food would still spawn outside of their territory

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Would maybe

marble ether
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but how do u spawn food if u don't have territory?

misty island
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Mayyyybe just concentrate the spawn inside

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As a carni our

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Carnivore

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Did you know the sound of Ava tarco and oro when you were new ?

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No

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A new player would just deem them as creepy as fuck background nosie

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So again it is a trial and error kind of thing

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This isn’t really that much of a differences for new players

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But if this idea does get implemented

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It’s the old player base that get affected the most

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Where they will have to adept to it

marble ether
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Idk about the whole territory thing spawning food, to me it sounds too complex

misty island
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Well

marble ether
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I would like to see some territory thing

misty island
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You find a home

marble ether
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but in another way

misty island
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Then the bigger your home is

marble ether
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not to spawn food

misty island
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The more food you have

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Or maybe also add stationary ai spawn points

marble ether
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that will drive players away from eachother tho

misty island
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Other than just territorial spawns

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Apex yes

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They would

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Or would they?

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A group of five Rex

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Sees another Rex territory

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Do they go in?

marble ether
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think rex groups will be reduced to 2

misty island
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Well

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Kay

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A group 15 allos

marble ether
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yikes xD

misty island
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Same situation

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So you see

marble ether
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these examples arent the best rofl

misty island
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It’s really depends on your playstyle

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It offer you choices

marble ether
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15 allos, can wipe a server xD

misty island
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But doesn’t punish you for not doing it

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Well

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Kinda

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Perhaps

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I still wanna see the 15allos vs 15 allos vs 15allos vs 30herbjs

marble ether
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yikes xD

misty island
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React the day where 40allo bois fought over a group of herbis

marble ether
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I'll beback in about 15 ish mins

misty island
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Well over 40 allos

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The casualties were 40 allos

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Yup

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@barren zephyr

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Good one

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Now I can have 1 Rex four allos

barren zephyr
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tchdhzvfs well ;v;

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lol

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kimda like that. tho the slots could obv. be used for herbs and carnis

misty island
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But no

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Ya that’s the idea

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And on top of that

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With a timer where if you are switching to non empty slot

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And the length of time would depends on the weight of your Dino

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So let’s say u gonna switch for an adult raptor

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U gotta be offline on that server for 10minutes

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Then 20 or a dibble

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And 30 for a Rex

barren zephyr
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yeah thats a good idea

misty island
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Well that wasn’t only form me

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We had a pretty lengthy discussion

barren zephyr
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ooh ok, i probs missed it

misty island
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When family shares were disable

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Well ya

barren zephyr
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if thats makeable in the game tho, the coding.

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ohh

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yea

misty island
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Think dondi

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Or someone

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Said something

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About the slots are confirmed

marble ether
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for unofficial servers yrd

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they want to test it first

barren zephyr
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nicee

rotund tartan
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@barren zephyr slots might be a thing, but I don't see it happening for another 4/6 months tho

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after the family sharing ended people bought another acc.. to have more "slots"

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they need to let the trend die first

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after that... they will add more slots so people that bought a second acc wont ask for refunds

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and the idea of slots needs a rly good fix

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your idea is an idea, but still, not that ok, imagine, you have a rex vs another rex.... both of you will get rly rly hurt in that 1 v 1 fight.. ( as an example ) ... the second player can log a dibble, or even something small, like a utah, dilo , ALLO

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and because you will be damn hurt from the 1 v 1 ... more or less that will be enough to finish you off

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so I'm very curious how the slot thing will be balanced

barren zephyr
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mhh

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true,,

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at least i tried lol

rotund tartan
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yeah, I think the slot thing will be a great adition to people playing this game and not buy a second copy

barren zephyr
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i dont get the minds of people tho, who just get rlly salty and need to revenge kill
more slots would be neat, but to me its not a must. was jsut an idea bc alot of people were really really upset

rotund tartan
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I had people come after me to try and revenge kill, but I have to admit... not that many.

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but I think that adding slots will kinda make people do it a lot more often

barren zephyr
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i honestly havent had any come after me, but i see alot of other people having the problem.
yeeah,,

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i thought balancing the amount of apex would maybe help it,

rotund tartan
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it would

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but not for long

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and not just for apex

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as an example, you limit 5 apex online

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and if they are not in the same group... a pack will be formed just to hunt them down

barren zephyr
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oh, mhh

rotund tartan
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for example ... I would limit apex to 3

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but I would limit allos as well

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20 allos in a group...

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you can't fight that

barren zephyr
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perhaps limit for mid tiers in general?
nah they bleed u to death lol

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guess we gotta see what the devs might have in mind

rotund tartan
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after recode I guess

indigo sun
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Herbivores have no reason to ambush anything so I don't see the need for the ability to do so. Ambush is meant to sneak up and catch prey off guard which herbivores like pachy and galli don't need to do @subtle adder

subtle adder
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Ah okay, but maybe a small speed boost

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Still slower than the carnivores but a better chance of getting away

umbral prairie
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@barren zephyr I think having slots is a good idea, but I think it would only work of there was a timer between logging out/dying and switching slots, so revenge killing or luring people to the spot your apex is logged off at are not possible. I think a timer of 30 minutes is needed here, maybe have the timer go down quicker for slots with juvies/low tiers on them, and a bit slower for heavy dinos like apexes.

lilac swallow
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We could have no timer if you are going juvie

barren zephyr
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yeah i havent thought of timers yet ;v;

umbral prairie
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also to the limit for mid tiers I think once affinity is in every dino might have a limit on how many dinos of it's species can be around it before it's affinity slowly goes down, herbis might also have a tolerance for herbis of other species around them

lilac swallow
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Slots are cool, i want to have my solo Dino and my playing with friends dino but It needs to be regulated

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@lone pagoda im in favor of more detail colors but you could just be female

marble ether
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@lone pagoda just play female and u don't need that detail

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oh wait lol

lone pagoda
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I'm not talking about the detail colour im talking about body 3

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xd

lilac swallow
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Oh...

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True

lone pagoda
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lol it's ok, i understand the confusion. I call it spine colour bc it mostly covers the spine

wintry cipher
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They took away the high majority of black options due to solid colored raptors. I assume they would do the same to white if that becaume the case and only allow it on the belly. Albino animals are also expected to be rock bottom on affinity - so having albino as a choice would miscommunicate to players visually.

lone pagoda
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I know but wouldn't it be better to add a light grey instead of fully white? You would still look like an albino, just with some darker scales. Not like butter

marble ether
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lol that essay tho

umbral prairie
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@wintry bough do you know what they are working on currently?

misty island
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BlockomaniacToday at 01:13
Troll suggestions are not allowed, just got confirmation

native vault
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@wintry bough they currently can't, they're recoding which takes a LOT of time.

lilac swallow
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They are literally preparing a huge update

blazing charm
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@toxic jewel Yeah, you kinda do.

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I'm looking it up now and I cannot see ANYTHING unique about it.

umbral prairie
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no giga speed buff please

misty island
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you know what giga really need

marble ether
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giga is stamina, rex is power

misty island
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an update in sun animation

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then its perfect

lilac swallow
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nobody, NOBODY, understand the concept of ambush and endurance

misty island
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I DO!!!!!

marble ether
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it's weird lol

umbral prairie
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if anything, make rex normal sprint speed 31 km/h, so it can not really catch giga, but can also not be caught by a giga unless it runs out of stam (which it will)

marble ether
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how something so simple is so hard to understand

umbral prairie
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even that isn't really needed imo

lilac swallow
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Because "muh giga cant kill rex"

marble ether
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what's a gigas speed actuall?

umbral prairie
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since gigas can literally trot away from rexes that aren't like 50 meters away from them

marble ether
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like 34 smth yeah?

native vault
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Yeah.

marble ether
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and rex is?

umbral prairie
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giga normal sprint is 30.6 afaik, ambush is 36

lilac swallow
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I once tested and in a straight line chase, an ambushing Rex needs to stay less than 2"rexes" of distance to catch a not ambushing giga

marble ether
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a giga or rex?

umbral prairie
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rex normal sprint is 32 or 33

marble ether
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and what's rexes speed?

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ah

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like how do people complain for that rofl

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a rex can sprint 20 secs

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and a giga can run for 2 min

lilac swallow
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I need to say again?

marble ether
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GiVe GiGa SpEeD bUfF

lilac swallow
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Because "muh giga cant kill rexes"

umbral prairie
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I don't know, giga has a very fast trot, as long as you don't let the rex come up to you to like 50 meters you're safe

lilac swallow
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Give giga literal inmunity

blazing charm
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I'm still waiting to hear more on why Mussa should be added.

marble ether
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dryo 2.0 or smth

lilac swallow
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@umbral prairie i calculated like 25 meters but i need to re test it

misty island
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so confused

umbral prairie
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how fast is rex ambush again?

lilac swallow
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Idk, faster than non ambush allo?

umbral prairie
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and does it run the full 6 seconds or does it have the momentum thing

lilac swallow
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Momentum

umbral prairie
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so it runs 5

lilac swallow
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Only like 2 sec of full

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Or 3

umbral prairie
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Imma look how far a rex can ambush, using 5 seconds of runtime and 45 km/h as ambush speed

lilac swallow
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I tested this way, me(giga not ambush) and my bro(Rex with ambush) started running from the same plaze at the same time and when the rex ran out of stam i stoped too, the distance between me and my bro was the distance a giga needs to survive rex

misty island
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2 trex length

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thats the distance you need

lilac swallow
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Exactly

misty island
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2.5 actually

umbral prairie
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if rex runs at 45 km/h it runs 12.5 meters per second, so 62.5 in 5 seconds. so if you're not super close a giga can escape from rex even when the rex is ambushing, since giga can run 42.5 meters in 5 seconds. WIth one second of reaction time, giga can run 34 meters in 4 seconds, so rex needs to be really close at the start of it's ambush to get the giga, not to speak of how close a rex without ambush needs to be

misty island
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and you cant turn

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like

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at all

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or he will catch up

lilac swallow
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How did you tested?

misty island
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dev test level

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count blocks on the ground

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1 block is 1 meter

lilac swallow
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Did you used the method i wrote just before or you used a better one?

umbral prairie
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wow the dinos are pretty small if one block is one meter, last I checked trike was 6 tiles long and rex 9

misty island
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somewhat the same as yours

umbral prairie
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maybe I am not remembering it correctly

misty island
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rex is 13 blocks?

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i think

lilac swallow
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Rl Rex is 13 meter

misty island
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sometimes some of the server doesnt let you use full adults

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maybe thats why

lilac swallow
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So if ti is 13 block both a block is a metter and Rex is right scaled

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But until human(the ones who will surely have real size) gets added we cant really now if a block is a metter

misty island
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a block is a meter

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cus

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thats the base of a game

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thats how it goes in basiclly all game engines

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unity unreal

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before you add meshes and landscape

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it has a default 4X4

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and you increase its size and start from there to make your map

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and 1 square is 1 meter^2

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by default

unborn quail
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The blocks definitely arent accurate to scale, because by their logic, an Allo's comes up to 2m, and compared to the old human model, Allo was definitely taller than that

lilac swallow
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Yeah but, think about it if humans were only one square tall, would you say in game humans are 1 metter tall or would you say the game is just down scaled

umbral prairie
misty island
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i count 10

unborn quail
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So either the human model was downsized, and reminder, it's just the ue4 test dummy which stands at 1.8m

misty island
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and half for the tip of the tail

lilac swallow
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Human if right scaled to rex would end up being only 1 square

unborn quail
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Or the blocks are inaccurate

umbral prairie
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dragon use the shadow for scale

misty island
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but the shadow are generated content

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how big the shadow is isnt really how big the model is

umbral prairie
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and the rex seems bigger because it is closer to the cam then the ground

misty island
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and depends where you code the light and how the light reacts

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it can be inaccurate

lilac swallow
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That could mean that in game models are just all downsized ignoring the game engine scales

misty island
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or that

umbral prairie
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yeah I think they tried to accurately scale the dinosaurs in relation to each other, not the tiles

lilac swallow
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It Will not be the first case (sotc for example)

unborn quail
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If the tiles were 1m each, Dilo's back should be a lot higher up on the top picture

misty island
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mm humans are only 1.5 meters

unborn quail
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Same with Utah for that matter, whom is taller then a human ingame, but next to the cubes, is Apparently shorter

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Standard ue4 height for humans are 1.8m

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Merc model is just a skin pasted onto the base model

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So height shouldn't have changed

misty island
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umm

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no

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the skin it self could have binded to a model with scales

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so it could be changed

lilac swallow
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@barren zephyr dont know why no one support your suggestion

carmine goblet
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Cos it's stupid

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@lilac swallow

lilac swallow
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Why?

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Giga is well known as the most over tuned dino

blazing charm
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Rex gets destroyed by the ocasional sub rex

What.

lilac swallow
carmine goblet
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A rex is stronger than a giga..

barren zephyr
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i destroyed a rex that can alt as a subrex pairdondiSmile

lilac swallow
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A giga just can not get biten by rex

blazing charm
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That just says to me that said Rex was just bad.

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Like, good god.

carmine goblet
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What are you on a about

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A rex is bloody faster than a giga

barren zephyr
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basic isle community responses smh. ofcs 80% of rexes are dumb

lilac swallow
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A Rex run only 30 sec dondiLUL

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Just scroll up we just had an discussion of giga speed

carmine goblet
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I ain't no basic Isle boi

barren zephyr
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giga does 100 bleed to a rex in 2 bitesdondiScream

carmine goblet
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If they are in a head on fight the rex will always win

lilac swallow
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As It should be

marble ether
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does that mean it is better?

carmine goblet
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Yes

barren zephyr
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u want giga to kill a rex head on? lmao

carmine goblet
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No

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I didn't say thst

marble ether
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so the bear is a better hunter than the wolf cuz it can take on larger prey?

lilac swallow
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A dilo cant kill a trike head on but no one says trike is good nor dilo is bad

carmine goblet
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U suggest to nerf the giga when it is already weaker than the rex

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It is fine how it is

spiral pond
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it isnt

marble ether
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a giga isn't weaker than a rex, it's niche lies somewhere else

lilac swallow
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Giga fucks anyone that isnt a rex

barren zephyr
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smh its destroys 20 allos

marble ether
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and in a 1v1 fight it will lose

spiral pond
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exacly dragon

marble ether
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but that doesn't mean it's worse

barren zephyr
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giga is second best

carmine goblet
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Giga should fuck anyone else

lilac swallow
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If thats is fine idk what you think could be not fine

carmine goblet
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Just like a rex

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They are the apexes

barren zephyr
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it legit has the advantage over rex in anything but dmg and speed

lilac swallow
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Rex just doesnt fuck half of the dinos due to its ridiculous short stam

spiral pond
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yes apexes definetly need to be untouchable

carmine goblet
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And that is a problem? Considering DMG and speed are the most important factors

spiral pond
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wrong

lilac swallow
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Even diablos can scape rexes

barren zephyr
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they are apexes yet they are just 6hrs of afk @carmine gobletdondiFrown

marble ether
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lol here we go again

lilac swallow
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If a diablo can scape a Rex, Rex is definitely fine

marble ether
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guys move it to isle discussion plz, this isn't even about a suggestion anymoe

carmine goblet
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@barren zephyr what are you trying to argue now?

marble ether
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it's just plain arguing who's better

lilac swallow
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Yes move It to isle discussion

barren zephyr
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ur trying to say giga is fine/underpowered when its not and im trying to prove how wrong that is when giga's only threat is rex

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@carmine goblet

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its can endure the rex like its supposed to

carmine goblet
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Ok

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@barren zephyr do u wanna DM me?

lilac swallow
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Lets see the giga wins/loses: oh 13 wins/1 lose

barren zephyr
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is he really using Dm as a point dondiUhh

lilac swallow
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Amon i beg you to ask to the whole isle community in the isle discussion chanel, they will tell you the truth

carmine goblet
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?

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Arcialga I said do u wanna DM me so you can tell me why without filling this chat up

marble ether
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Move it

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To discussion

barren zephyr
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Dm is pointless. viability isnt about being able to kill a rex

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meh its a suggestion discussion

lilac swallow
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Yes seriously go to disscusion

carmine goblet
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Dude just tell me why

marble ether
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Its just a discussion about which dino is best

barren zephyr
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i did scroll updondiFrown @carmine goblet

marble ether
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Thats no suggestion discussion

barren zephyr
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fine im done with this. giga players really dont know how to play giga

still temple
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@toxic jewel why mussarus though

marble ether
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Im guessing that was a troll suggestion

indigo sun
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I mean, the only thing I could see being unique about it is its shift from four legs to two legs as it grows up

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It's entirely possible they want it to be added legitimately

still temple
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We already have plateo, and the devs dont seem to be in a hurry to add any prosauropods

clever leaf
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Even then, plateo seems better fit as AI anyways

valid flower
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Trike can destroy a giga

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And possible 2 gigas if they don’t play well

carmine goblet
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No it can't unless trike got a buff

spiral pond
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trike destroys giga
giga kills it in 3 bites

carmine goblet
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^

blazing charm
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@summer mist Both would need some kind of unique mechanic, or else they would just be a reskin of Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus respectively.

umbral prairie
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^

lilac swallow
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Carcharo is just a giga, even more giga than acro is

blazing charm
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Which is a shame because Carchar > Giga

lilac swallow
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I dont mind i like both the same

blazing charm
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In all seriousness I like both aswell.

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But I honestly can't think of much to make them both playable unless one is a skin or an "echo fighter"

lilac swallow
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Understood the reference yeah carcha is to giga like tarbo to rex

summer mist
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yeah carcha if you look in size not that much smaller than giga and rexy , so this guy goulg be top mid tier make him faster that a giga im most ways bite quicker run faster in all juvi sub and adult , with the mega he could be an interesting one to use was the first dino to ever be discoverd and alot is unkown about it so you could do anything with it really just need sum more carnis to spice things up abit?

lilac swallow
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To do that just use acro

versed blaze
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@opaque snow There is a clock on your Character screen when you press Insert

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It's tiny but it'st here

opaque snow
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I know that but I would like one that's constantly visable

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Thus my suggestion

versed blaze
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Ah, makes sense!

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I wasn't sure if you knew one was there or not

queen mortar
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i feel like i need to come on here every day to suggest faster juvenile speeds until it happens

stable magnet
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it is like a realism game

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if you up the speed to much it takes that away

queen mortar
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and to make apexes like rex and giga rely on a fast trot rather than a ridiculous ambush speed

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and stealth, less stepping sound volume

blazing charm
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@willow zealot Oro and Taco juveniles/hatchlings would be incredibly tiny, near microscopic.

willow zealot
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Yes

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Lol

blazing charm
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...

queen mortar
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what’s the point of adding them

blazing charm
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Okay, so then why would that be a good idea?

lilac swallow
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First is not a a realism game
Second if this game was realistic giga would run at 50 km h
Third i dont want be useless for hours

queen mortar
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??

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anyways, juveniles should be more viable and have increased growth time

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match their speed to something closer or on par with adults

lilac swallow
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Why would they have increased grow time? They are actually painful

queen mortar
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they will eventually anyway, apparently

lilac swallow
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That has never been confirmed

queen mortar
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sure bud dondiLUL

lilac swallow
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Show me, show me when It has been confirmed

queen mortar
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go through old streams of Dondi’s i don’t have to source myself here. ask anyone who’s been here more than a year/ year and a half.

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i’m not bullshitting you

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juveniles need to be more in line with adult speeds or have much better stamina, with adults relying on a brisk trot speed and only relying on sprinting in shorter bursts than what they have now.

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hiding can only do so much for a player, especially with foliage not rendering for everyone the same.

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plus staying with a traveling group is more fun than afk growing

barren zephyr
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On what you said about sounds...

and stealth, less stepping sound volume

queen mortar
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i figured as much, that’s awesome

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and growing juvies should require an incredible amount of food and risk having their growth stunted if they can’t meet the demand

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make them viable to collect those resources

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have them popping up more around the map that way too, maybe carnivores wouldn’t be scraping for AI all the time

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they’re not more combat capable, just more mobile

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like the carno juvenile, but that’s an extreme end of this spectrum

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and carnos already grow fast so it hardly matters

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growth should take longer for them 100%

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and then shit like dryo and galli can stay the same perhaps

barren zephyr
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I feel like most of those issues you're bringing up will be solved when more AI dinos are added in and after the recode is implemented.
Fixing a lot of that now would seemingly be a waste of time if it's in the pipeline anyway.

queen mortar
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maybe. but more, larger AI will start to feel a little too oppressive for the juveniles we have in this current state

barren zephyr
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More larger AI = more corpses/gore piles from the grown up carnivores = more food for the solo juvies to scavenge. Ideally anyway.

queen mortar
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and it doesn’t solve the issue of structuring the game in a way where juvenile stage feels less than totally helpless and more capable of interacting with the ecosystem

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ideally yes, you have a good point there

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but i also think it’s appropriate to ask more of the juvie player

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there’s no reason all mid to large tier dinosaurs shouldn’t have a more lithe or gracile juvie stage like rex does

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aside from the work that goes into making it so

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everyone knows it’s boring, this is what i think it needs to remedy that

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the only thing keeping huge ass discords from farming trikes is the rules against mix-packing and herd sizes. if you take that away it goes back to being a boring AFK grow because they’ve eliminated all risk

barren zephyr
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that baryonyx doc made me excited for water/swimming overhaul

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Yeah that writeup is really well done

queen mortar
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?

barren zephyr
queen mortar
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it’s nice, i think it would fit well

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but yeah what i stated up above is probably the most important aspect of the foundation of this game to me that needs addressed

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and i’ll probably keep coming back with revisions for a long time until it is or someone tells me to shut up lol

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@blazing charm what’s the new information on spino?

blazing charm
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The new model.

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Previously I was using the older Spinosaurus

queen mortar
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i see i see

night mountain
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why on earth would anyone be against the ai species being able to nest? People play as em sometimes and I don't see why it wouldn't be super quick and easy to implement. I'd even be totally cool with the babies just being small adult models if they didn't want to give it devtime

paper oriole
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I want baby tacos NOW

barren zephyr
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Okay so maybe now baby tacos will be the size of Yorkies instead of dire wolves

night mountain
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petition to call them street tacos

hallow vigil
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baby tacos/oros/velos might be too small to be visible/viable food for preds tho

paper oriole
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Hatchlings in general are useless food just dont eat them lol

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Not being viable food for lazy nest thiefs is no reason to deny us baby tacos

hallow vigil
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but what about being too small to see tho

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actually

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what size are baby utahs?

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they could be that size maybe

paper oriole
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Baby utahs are about the size of an adults toe

hallow vigil
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smol

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so yeah they could be that size then

paper oriole
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Itd be acceptable size for taco babs

night mountain
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So? Should utahs and austros and dryos not be able to breed either because the hatchlings don't provide a lot of food?

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i'd honestly take their breeding just spawning adults for tacos and oros, hatchlings would be better but slapping that on real fast would be better than nothing at all

paper oriole
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If you look at a baby taco and think "hmmm food" you dont deserve it anyway lol, thats like if i ate a butterfly and bitched about still being hungry after

clever leaf
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dilo jump is a no from me dog

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tbh even pachy jump is kinda redundant

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they can be just fine without them

indigo sun
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Dilo really doesn't need jump. It does fine the way it is and there's no reason to give it a jump, even a shitty one.

queen mortar
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no one is against the small AI nesting, it’s that it isn’t pertinent @paper oriole @night mountain

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if no one will ever play them in survival mode then it isn’t important

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you’re gonna come across players that will shoot down those sorts of suggestions because we have other priorities when it comes to what we think needs to come to the game. it’s nothing against the suggestions themselves

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little tacos would be really cute, no one’s arguing against that

paper oriole
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well yeah it obviously isn't priority

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but maybe eventually

queen mortar
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maybe!

paper oriole
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i'd personally play a taco, i love them

queen mortar
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mods too! hopefully:)

paper oriole
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i can't even kill the ai ones most of the time because they're too cute lol

queen mortar
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you would play taco?

paper oriole
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yes

queen mortar
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did you ever play in progression mode

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because you had to

paper oriole
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aggression isn't my type of gameplay so i'm the type to play something passive and weak like a taco
i didn't join while progression servers were running, i've just played as one via injection or sandbox

queen mortar
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they’re hell, so is oro. i’ve only had a good time playing them on mods. the game doesn’t accommodate them well

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the creatures were modded to be better suited for survival, it was cool

paper oriole
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some day tho i hope they're an option. it'd be a pretty harmless thing to do once the more important stuff is out of the way

queen mortar
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that’s my stance on it too

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they’re funny

paper oriole
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i know they can be hell lol honestly i had a worse time as a velo than a taco in survival

queen mortar
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just make them a little quicker

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mostly taco

paper oriole
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oro should have a jump imo, even if it's a small one, taco maybe should have its speed upped to juvie utah sprint level at least, but they have potential to be a good hider with their size, texture and (maybe in the future) skins

queen mortar
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yeah sure!

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they don’t need super speed because when they get into brush you loose track of them really quickly, old taco in progression was certainly viable in terms of evading predators but getting food and water was a suicide mission

paper oriole
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yea their camoflage is a good counterplay, plus they can be hard to hit

queen mortar
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yup

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oro is 100% viable as it is because its size makes it excellent at hiding

paper oriole
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they are also fast enough to juke some juvies, they should be able to enter burrows also imo

queen mortar
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for sure

paper oriole
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oro and velo are both the right size to enter them, so if they eventually get added to survival both should be able to get in

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dilo should have adult galimimus' current (bugged) jump

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it's a pretty pathetic jump honestly, but i mean look at dilos legs they aren't very strong looking lol

indigo sun
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Oro and velo have no chance of being playable, if that's youre talkin about by "added to survival"

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Though it'd be neat if ai velos entered burrows

paper oriole
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let me dream okay

indigo sun
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they're too small i'm sorry

night mountain
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Does priority even factor in? idk about game development but wouldn't making them breed be as easy as like just copying breeding from like avas or whatever since breeding works identically as far as I know

paper oriole
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i mean if it really is that simple i don't see any reason not to add it

night mountain
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same with sniff for some of the sandboxes, I don't get why they don't have it slapped on, even if they don't have the actual animation play yet or whatever. Not like sniffing isn't identical for everything. (thats whatever though since its happening eventually)

paper oriole
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yea seems like it'd be a relatively quick and effortless thing to add, no harm would come of it

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personally i hope all dinos make it to survival eventually, well all except like the brach and stuff i can see why that wouldn't be a thing

night mountain
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yeah, im not too broken up about anything being ai though as long as its at least functionally playable in servers like all the current ai is

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would be bummed if there were ai species that were straight unplayable though

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(hoping even fish are to an extent lmaoo)

paper oriole
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if somebody wants to be at the bottom of the food chain (taco) just let 'em, they aren't hurting anybody
it's the peak of the whole "horror" aspect to be so weak and slow

outer nebula
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well tacos and oro are playable just go to a sandbox server

misty island
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The army of oro

paper oriole
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or get injected yea.. but having them be selectable in survival would be a harmless edition

night mountain
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or just a server that will spawn you as em

misty island
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One day you log on and see 50oro

paper oriole
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whatre they gonna do, bite the dead skin off a utah's ankles?

misty island
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Run around in circles

night mountain
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i just think they need breeding so that way they arent survival persay bt theyre still around and getting nested in is doable, even if they aren't in the normal starting menu

misty island
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Making alien markings on wheat fields

outer nebula
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now the reason why oro and tacos are not playable in survival it be confusing for the player base. if you see an oro the question is it ai or an actual player.

night mountain
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like someone correct me if im worng but wouldn't giving them functional but maybe a bit weird looking breeding be basically just copy pasting existing code?

misty island
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The problem with that is that devs would need divert resources to model the hatchlings and juvi version of it

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And the fact they doing recode

night mountain
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just make em small

misty island
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Is umm

night mountain
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like just shrink the model

misty island
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Time consuming

night mountain
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not ideal but whatever

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or just be like avas where its an adult

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better than nothin imo

misty island
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I mean work is work

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And work cost money

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And it’s not important rn at all

night mountain
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im not saying to make it priority number one

outer nebula
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well right now there is no need to give taco and oro nesting because they are not survival dino or any reason to give them the ability to spawn in hatchling or spawn people as them

misty island
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But if they come in as an April fool s joke or something

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It would be awesome tho

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You just log on to where you have a Rex

paper oriole
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i mean eventually, between big projects, it could be done

misty island
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And found urself as an oro

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Lmfao

paper oriole
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obviously not now when they are working on so many big and important things

misty island
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How pissed would people be

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Hehehehe

night mountain
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yeah thats fine, honestly the stuff i want the most is the stuff theyre working on rn anyway

outer nebula
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i dont see it happening anytime soon, they are currently working on new things and adding mechanics to the game and new dinos

night mountain
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yeah tbh what i want most are new water mechanics/fish/ptero/deino so im very chill with where development is haha

desert prairie
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Why does everyone want deino to be able to drag stuff into the water? It would be so broken.

misty island
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@night mountain

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That is actually what a T. rex would sound like

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A low pitch grumbling

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That vibrates the very bones in your skull

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Apparently they can transfer message for a few kilometres in that way

lunar sandal
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oh yea i saw that

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theres a video on youtube that theories what a t.rex

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i can get if you want

night mountain
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"Why does everyone want deino to be able to drag stuff into the water" because thats the entire point of being a crocodile

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thats like saying we should add spino but leave it unable to swim, or add in ptera but have it so it can only fly for like a couple seconds

edgy furnace
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^^

night mountain
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it'd be easy to avoid anyway, if you're that worried about deino drink out of somewhere really show or a stream or something

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shallow*

edgy furnace
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And it’s not like deino will be common or anything

night mountain
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otherwise its just like, a really slow easy to avoid spinosaurus

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functionally*

novel basin
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I can kinda agree with @golden shoal

there is too much of a disparity between herbi and carni populations

golden shoal
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I play on Isla Nycta mostly now, and the server population can field 200 people. I would not be surprised if the pops were 40 / 60 or higher swinging carnivores way. When I used to play on official, the massive zergs of utahs, dilos, and other fast (swarm) carnivores was completely insurmountable.

novel basin
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I play on Isla Nycta as well and I agree, it seems much better on those servers

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not sure if it's due to the higher pops or something else tho

marble ether
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Yuck nycta

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Also why should there be more reason to play herbs?

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This is prob also the reason why dondi said loong ago they would make all herbs ai

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Dont know if thats still planned tho

lilac swallow
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Wouldnt make sense having currently playable herbs if they are going to be ai

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@shell willow dont make ai spawn based on hunger even if It only spawns at 0 is just free food, make ai spawn randomly around the map

shell willow
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I have a feeling that current game, that would be buggy, and honestly free food will only last for so long

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I'm suggesting that smaller dinos would be able to survive on ai but they can't grow a pack and depend on it, and apexes do not need to be surviving on ai at all

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idk how it'll work in the future

rotund tartan
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an apex should not be able to survive on ai alone

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But

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then again an apex can't take on a herbie .. because you never see herbies alone

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I mean very rare

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imagine a sub rex or sub giga... trying to get something to eat after 4/5 hours.. and you get head on with 4/5 trikes

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and some apexs dont want to babysit

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and wont

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who wants to stay 6hours next to someone to protect till they grow

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that's not how this works... in other games it's normal.. in this game.. it's not

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but on the other hand.. herbies will babysit without a problem

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so.. that itself makes a huge gap and a huge problem

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so that's why an apex can survive on ai

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and all people hate apex.. so more or less all players will kill a juvie rex or juvie giga without a fuss

shell willow
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the thing about hunting is
you're supposed to play it out like a hunter... no one is stupid enough to run through a herd and just attack willy nilly, people have watched at least 1 nature documentary about lions or whatever else. You're always supposed to pick a weak/young herd member and wait until they lag behind or get separated.

lilac swallow
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Never understood the apex hate they are mad easy to avoid

rotund tartan
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that's true.. I never died to a rex because he was hunting... I only died because I wanted to screw with it

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but you cant get mad since you want the fight to happen in the first place

steady cosmos
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It's surprisingly easy to not notice an apex

lilac swallow
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I died to apexes few times but It was allways because i played dumb or even not watching the screen

rotund tartan
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@shell willow this is not discovery ... they all pick a spot next to the water and sit in 1 spot for hours till they are adults.

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we don't have migrations

lilac swallow
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Only time an apex really hunt me i was on my trike(and you know what happens with trikes vs apexes)

rotund tartan
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were they have to move from N to S

steady cosmos
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Also unconscious, running through a herd is a tactic well used by smaller dinos

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only by the idiotic large dinos

shell willow
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This is current game stuff, which likely won't matter later, and migration stuff actually does happen depending on where you play. Migration is rare on official servers because barely anyone wants to play herbi. They know the good herbi spots, and they don't leave because the carnivores can't find them. If you go on IGP, everyone knows everywhere and people are migrating and raiding herds and slaughtering all the time.

steady cosmos
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If people are smart enough not to hit each other, running through a clusterfuck to get free hits is a viable tactic

shell willow
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It's viable if the herd is in a panic and they aren't big enough to 1 shot you, sure

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but it's not ideal

steady cosmos
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has nothing to do with panic

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Trying not to damage your teammies is something a ton of people do

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Had a time once where i ran straight into a herd of herbivores and sat in one of their sitting dinosaurs while biting it and the other herd members

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They didnt want to hurt their friend

rotund tartan
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@shell willow I play on the official, and there are no migrations there... all herbies stay in 1 spot... either you find them.. or you dont.

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most fights happen carni vs carni

shell willow
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Yeah that's what I said Liric

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if you find the right server you'll find what you want

rotund tartan
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mmm, there was a suggestion at one point

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to add AI herbies.. like trikes

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and make them migrate

shell willow
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giving them set paths would just give carnivores even more free food

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they'd just sit on the path and wait for them to stroll by

rotund tartan
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not sure a juvie will want to fight a herd

steady cosmos
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Isnt that kinda how hunting works unconscious?

shell willow
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Idk why a juvie would want to sit on a migration path and wait for a herd unless it wants to die

jovial blade
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@subtle adder Why tf would herbs need ambush

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Herbs are suppose to spot danger and run before it gets close OR they face the danger and defend

shell willow
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^^

night mountain
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because all ambush is, is walking quietly and putting on a bust of speed

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you guys telling me a herbivore couldn't walk quietly or sprint if it wanted?

shell willow
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a galli is fine without ambush, as is dryo

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and pachy

steady cosmos
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I wouldnt mind adrenaline or something else for those 3

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Pachy could just get a damage boost from said adrenaline tho

jovial blade
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Imagine a trike ambushing

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A trex

lilac swallow
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Yeah give herbis a hunt oriented mechanich, im not against herbis killing but giving them hunting mechanichs is stupid

jovial blade
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Why is this even being discussed

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Its absurd

shell willow
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all the herbis that can crouch really don't have a use for ambush except "hey let's make it EVEN HARDER for the carnivore to catch it"
why would herbis need an ambush
I can understand adrenaline but adrenaline would only keep you alive for a little longer, not make you faster

steady cosmos
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I sure hope it makes you faster

lilac swallow
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Carni's ambush is literally meant for carnis to catch faster prey if the manage to hide well

jovial blade
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^

night mountain
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jst dont call it ambush if people are gonna be anal about it

jovial blade
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Also to catch them offguard

slate nimbus
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Instead of ambush, maybe a panic run/adrenaline rush?

shell willow
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adrenaline makes you more durable, so like, it would let you run further, but at the same base speed...

steady cosmos
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Legendary, placement is a majority of a fight

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Not just ambush speed

night mountain
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call it sneak and keep everything the same lmao

lilac swallow
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Thats why carno doesnt have ambush because It is the faster dino, doesnt need it

night mountain
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what carno has ambush

jovial blade
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Maybe herb z trot should be quieter

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Not a ambush wtf

slate nimbus
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It does not

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Carno can crouch but does not get a speed buff

night mountain
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oh what really? it sure seems faster when you run

shell willow
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ok but it's called an ambush for a reason, so carnivores can ambush prey and catch them off guard
herbis don't need to do that, they don't need a boost, all the herbis that have the ability to crouch are usually fast enough to respond and run or have the ability to outmaneuver them and get away

steady cosmos
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It has to accelerate

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Before it gets to full speed

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Unconscious you can ambush something without ambush speed

torpid wedge
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i rarely successfully hunt herbivores as a carnivore

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they’ve always got trike protectors

shell willow
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no shit

night mountain
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i still think it's funny people are so against a herbivore having the ability to walk slowly and quietly, or run

shell willow
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you don't need to have a boost to ambush something

slate nimbus
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I rarely if ever see herbivores unless I am one myself

torpid wedge
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and i get hit in the tail somehow trying to get a bite and get run down

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and that too, i rarely see them unless they’re in a huge group

shell willow
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we aren't against the idea that an herbivore can walk quietly and slowly and run @night mountain, we have Z walk and gallis, dryos, and pachies can sneak around with their crouch

lilac swallow
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We are against the idea of the speed boost

shell willow
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^

steady cosmos
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Im up for it in terms of galli and dryo

torpid wedge
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why?

steady cosmos
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Less galli and more dryo

lilac swallow
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And im a mainly herbi player so i dont have any "carni bias"

steady cosmos
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Dryo gets shit on by utah

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Entirely

night mountain
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whats wrong with the speed boost though? Its not like carnivores have some natural magical ability to crouch and then run fast

steady cosmos
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Galli just has to deal with carno

shell willow
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Galli is already one of the fastest in the game, I can see dryo maybe having a short boost, but with burrowing? I don't see much of a point or an advantage

lilac swallow
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Dryos plays around not getting seen or hididng innburrow if get seeing

torpid wedge
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has to “deal”

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wtf lol

night mountain
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i mean obv dont give it to stuff like cama or whatever

torpid wedge
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galli turn radius

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is SO much better

steady cosmos
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Multiple carnos

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"wtf lol"

lilac swallow
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Why would herbis have a hunt oriented mechanich?

steady cosmos
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Good luck escaping that fate

slate nimbus
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Have you ever tried to catch a galli as a carno? No point

night mountain
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because its just running

shell willow
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bro multiple carnos have a hard time catching a galli, have you ever played carno trying to catch a galli, or vice versa trying not to be caught?

serene hull
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gali=prehistoric fidget spinner

torpid wedge
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maybe if you just run in a straight line

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but if you pull your sick jukes

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nO way they catch you

steady cosmos
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If you know where you are, and there arent drops or falls you have to avoid, hunting galli as carno is actually a fun and easy meal

torpid wedge
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what on earth

night mountain
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defining something by a name thats not even used in the game is a lame reason to not want something

lilac swallow
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Have you read our messages about the point of carnis having It? To make them able to catch faster prey if they are sneaky enought

slate nimbus
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Gallis can u-turn and pull other stuff, a carno is only good for running straight

shell willow
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people suggesting these things don't seem to realize that the things that catch you rarely can catch you if you juke them right, a dryo can juke a utah enough to get to its hiding spot and live

steady cosmos
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You ever tried to escape a squad of carnos?

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as anything at all

shell willow
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yes

torpid wedge
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of course

serene hull
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dryo is also 30 mins so you really can't expect a lot more

slate nimbus
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Thats easy, go for the trees

torpid wedge
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you just have to abuse the shit out of their turn radius

steady cosmos
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As galli you've got 2 choices

shell willow
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yeah tbh losing a dryo is nothing

slate nimbus
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Their eternal enemies

steady cosmos
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make your way to a forest or get on top of a rock

shell willow
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who gets mad about losing dryos tbh

steady cosmos
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The forest isnt a guarantee of survival

shell willow
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wow

torpid wedge
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it is in my opinion?

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trees are your best friend against carno

shell willow
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you don't play galli like utahs..

lilac swallow
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Galli is inmortal and only dies to really skilled carnos or if the galli player is stupid

shell willow
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gallis are not rock bois

torpid wedge
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galli jump is awful

steady cosmos
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Still helpful

shell willow
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their jump is dummy thicc and they can't climb to the same heights

slate nimbus
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I think its less about losing a 30 min dino and more about how easy it is to lose it. Its kind of a trade-off though so...

steady cosmos
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Thats why i said it should have less of a boost than dryo

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If small

torpid wedge
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no boost needed

shell willow
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they don't need boosts

torpid wedge
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their strength is agility

steady cosmos
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Yeah and carnos is persistence

shell willow
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even carnos get bored

steady cosmos
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not very

shell willow
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a carno will ditch a galli chase for an oro

torpid wedge
steady cosmos
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and even if they do that will probably lead them right back to the hard hunt that is a galli

slate nimbus
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Solo carno is barely good for anything, its a shame

formal vine
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Carno has horrible turn rate

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When soloing prey, theres only a 20% chance you'd bleed it out

serene hull
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?

slate nimbus
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Wouldnt be surprised if a solo utah could kill a solo carno, not because of speed but the better turning

formal vine
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And that 20% depends on which animal you're hunting and your method.

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Assriding

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Utah easily tanks carno by juking it and assriding it

steady cosmos
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Lol solo carno is only useful against solo cerato

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And you have to be good to do that

serene hull
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doesn't take much to bleed out a cerato

shell willow
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bro I was a juvie utah on the beach and an allo tried to come up and spawn kill me, so I just juked around its toes until it got bored and went for an ava so I left
impatience is a part of every living person, you bet your ass a carno is gonna get distracted from a galli it can't catch

slate nimbus
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Cerato bites better tho, no? Also has good bleed resist while carno does bad bleed dmg

formal vine
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Cerato does bite better

steady cosmos
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Something about cerato and bleed dont mix

formal vine
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But carno can assride it.

serene hull
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carno doesn't facetank lol

steady cosmos
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And that is definitely not true

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Cerato has hella good turn radius

slate nimbus
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Cera turns better than carno

formal vine
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Yes

lilac swallow
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Cerato explodes if bleeding

slate nimbus
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I literally cant name a dino other than juvies and dryos that a carno could effectively take on solo

formal vine
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I killed a cera as carno once, I got lucky because the thing fell and broke its leg

shell willow
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cerato implodes and its lungs collapse when it gets a splinter

torpid wedge
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yeah utah v carno is HEAVY in utah's favor

formal vine
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yeh

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They gotta buff carno

torpid wedge
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you can solo a carno easy so long as he doesn't escape you by running in a straight line

steady cosmos
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Heck no adikav

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its fine

torpid wedge
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no it really needs the buff carno isn't good at all rn

steady cosmos
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And utah v carno aint shit in utahs favor

formal vine
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It ain't it can die to a utah, a galli can kick it to death if it has the patience

lilac swallow
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I think, yes carno should have bad turn, but is neccesary that bad?

steady cosmos
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idk where you got that from

serene hull
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you guys forget carno is the fastest fucker in the game rn

steady cosmos
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A carno definitely should not fight a utah

slate nimbus
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The only weakness ceras have other than being a jack of all trade is how easily they break legs

serene hull
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carno is fine

torpid wedge
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yeah it has? i have at least 300 hours of utah gameplay and i rarely lose against carno

shell willow
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carnos are like fuckin bees
they can sting an apex like a honeybee stings a human, but that carno can only bite it once before it dies unless the apex lets it wiggle away :)

slate nimbus
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Wunder I played enough carno to know that speed alone gets them nowhere if they cant turn

serene hull
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the carnos you're fighting are stupid @torpid wedge

torpid wedge
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yeah they are

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because they don't run away

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they try and fight

formal vine
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Carno should be able to kill a utah raptor

slate nimbus
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It should

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But cant

serene hull
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well it is

formal vine
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It cant

torpid wedge
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if it's smart and uses walk turn instead of run

serene hull
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utah can't take bleed well

formal vine
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Utah can ass ride it

slate nimbus
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Unless the utah is dumb

formal vine
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And dodge the carno

torpid wedge
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its ambush is faster as well

formal vine
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We just assume all utahs are good and think of the situation

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Yeah

steady cosmos
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utahs are fucking rats

slate nimbus
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Most players just know carno is useless :c

torpid wedge
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carno is about as good as cerato

formal vine
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Carno can kill dilos at most

slate nimbus
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A real shame, I really love them

night mountain
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honestly the best nerf to utah would be to give the model feathers because half the players would get buttmad and stop using it lmao

formal vine
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lol

torpid wedge
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feathers would look SICK

formal vine
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Yeah

night mountain
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agreed but we know how dem jp fanboys are

formal vine
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They need to add an option to enable feathers on utah

torpid wedge
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if done right i'd nut

slate nimbus
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One or two hit tho and you bleed out trying to get far enough to turn xD

formal vine
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Hell the isle has become a JP copycat

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That rex roar

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That utah 1 call

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That utah design

slate nimbus
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Only good if you can surpeise the dilos

night mountain
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to be fair the rex roar is used in like

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everything

formal vine
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Thats the point

night mountain
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almost everything with a rex rips off the jp roar no matter what

formal vine
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But the Isle is a game

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That is original

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WIth its own Idea and dinosaur models

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The old roar was better

lunar sandal
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that cause the rex roar is what people reconginze

slate nimbus
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I would actually love a feathered utah more

night mountain
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give everything a feathered option no matter what

shell willow
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bro just.. have the rex do the theorized super deep growl, the one where it barely opens its mouth but it rumbles

lunar sandal
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people would get mad if you change the roar

formal vine
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Yesh

shell willow
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that would actually intimidate me

lunar sandal
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even if not from jurassic park

night mountain
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i wanna be a trike where the frill is covered in peacock feathers so it looks 10x bigger

formal vine
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People wouldn't, long time fans of the isle dont give jack about the change

shell willow
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rn I'm not scared of rexes, I just see one and I'm like "oh hey another rex"

night mountain
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feathered anky too

slate nimbus
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Imagine a feathrred trike or stego.... or anky 😂 👌

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Gg

lunar sandal
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i don't think anky where one of feather ones

night mountain
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ii know lol

slate nimbus
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I know

torpid wedge
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feathered raptors are so fucking cool though

lunar sandal
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the trike i'm not sure but that would be neat

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heck yea

torpid wedge
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i wonder if feathers could be an option like a skin

lunar sandal
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i want a feather rex too

slate nimbus
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Someone just said to give feathers optional for everything

night mountain
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feathered pue

shell willow
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I would play raptor if it had feathers

lunar sandal
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i kinda hope they would be

night mountain
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that was me but i was kidding

formal vine
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nah nah, rex wasn't THAT feathered

slate nimbus
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I know

torpid wedge
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feathered allo :OOOO

lunar sandal
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i would play feather rex

gaunt parcel
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I have a friend that kept saying to have the feathered dinosaurs as an option, feathered or non feathered

shell willow
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rex didn't look like an oversized chicken

night mountain
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though granted a feathered anky of something is STILL more realisitic than the hypos so

lunar sandal
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no but they had some

shell willow
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^

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ya

formal vine
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The chicken has the closest DNA replica to the tyrannosaurus rex

slate nimbus
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And I laughed and continued the joke but apparently it was bad because no one got it

lunar sandal
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just how much is unknow

torpid wedge
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imagine oros being more feathered

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like fast floof balls

gaunt parcel
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I don't think herbivores had feathers?

shell willow
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it had some, but it wasn't a walking chicken wing

formal vine
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Fluff balls

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Extra meat

night mountain
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some did

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theri did for sure

slate nimbus
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Some did

gaunt parcel
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Ah yes

lunar sandal
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yea i think some of the berbivores did but i'm not sure

night mountain
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ok guys hear me out

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feathered deino

lunar sandal
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i follow mostly in meat eaters by that the rex news

night mountain
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feathered titanoboa

torpid wedge
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you lost me

slate nimbus
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Also the tailspikes on taco are a kind of feather too unless I recall wrong

shell willow
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theri had some, I think galli had some, ornitho did, but trike and anky and all that? most likely had very few if any at all

gaunt parcel
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However feathers should be an option ^^

torpid wedge
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feathered dilo

shell willow
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I highly doubt anky had any feathers

gaunt parcel
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Would give more variety

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^

night mountain
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feathered titanoboa would be the sickest thing imaginable lmao

shell willow
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I wouldn't mind a feathered dilo if it were like a bird of paradise tbh

night mountain
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quetzalcoatl mode

formal vine
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lol titanoboa didn't have feathers

night mountain
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i know

formal vine
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And its only AI

gaunt parcel
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Oh shit

slate nimbus
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Anky didnt have feathers so imagining one feathered is the joke

night mountain
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feathered megalodon

gaunt parcel
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Also! Is the cannibal gonna be an AI?

shell willow
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gaunt parcel
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Or will it be player controlled >>

lunar sandal
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wait cannibal playable?

formal vine
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Cannibal and tribal are the same thing and will be playabe

lunar sandal
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oh nevermined

slate nimbus
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Who knows

torpid wedge
gaunt parcel
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Okay then even as a REX I will piss myself if I see a cannibal

slate nimbus
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👀 👌

lunar sandal
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dudeeee that pretty