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unborn quail
vestal rune
hatchlings are a relatively rare occurence that don't last for long
unborn quail
^
random knoll
yeahhh
thorny lynx
I think it looks cute.
vestal rune
no point in spending so much time and money on giving them all new models
unborn quail
That doesnt matter
violet magnet
and again
"need better reasons than just aesthetics to drop $7k on a new creature"
vestal rune
this is a survival horror game, not a cute roleplaying game
unborn quail
No reason to spend money on another life stage model when a resized one works in place
vestal rune
they're not gonna go out of their way to make something cute
unborn quail
Especially when that money can go towards something else
Like actual gameplay mechanics
umbral prairie
@willow zealot hole at the top of what?
willow zealot
Ptero and Quetz
barren zephyr
unsure. flyers might camp there
w/out getting hurt bc the aviary is safe
tho eh idk
fast flume
but it's possible to just walk any dinosaur up there right now Oo
umbral prairie
if there were entrances to the aviary it would be cool if many of the glass sections were broken, so people could walk in/out on the ground aswell as fly in/out
fast flume
and we might get HOPE before the Ptera releases anyways, so there might not be an aviary at all OO
umbral prairie
so it still looks like it was made to contain things (and not a glass dome with a built-in hole at the top) but you can still get in (although I still don't see why you would want to be in there
barren zephyr
oh didnt knoe u could walk up there
indigo sun
There might be a chance they'll keep the aviary, just not how it is currently where it's the center of the map.
Safety, coolness factor. Thered be a few reasons to go there
barren zephyr
oops
umbral prairie
the aviary causes massive lag for me if I go close to it
and my graphics drop down and go blurry
fast flume
that's true, if it gets moved over to HOPE too, it might be in a better place where dinos can't just walk on top of it
umbral prairie
so if they want to have an aviary on hope I hope they will make a new one, not with a white pole in the middle that just looks like an untextured block, and generally a less laggy aviary
sick crescent
Well Hope might be more optimized
umbral prairie
won't mercs be able to build bases?
fast flume
there's been a bunch of concept art with remains of infrastructure and abandoned vehicles strewn about a while back, so not impossible at all 😃
barren zephyr
nice aaa
fast flume
base-building? no, but they will be able to place down turrets and defensive positions afaik
umbral prairie
yeah not ark like
barren zephyr
ah kinda will miss when only dinos were on the isle
umbral prairie
but the devs talked about 'switching the electric fence on' , which sounds like you're in a base trying to keep yourself safe. Maybe humans will have to repair parts the base before they can use it
fast flume
there will be official dino-only servers for that particaluar itch tho 😉
umbral prairie
yes
fast flume
I'll be trying humans too, will be like playing a colonial marine in the old AVP games, true horror 😃 But I'll most likely be hunting them as a Utah much more XD
barren zephyr
tdfffjfhf same
umbral prairie
just the thought of having dinos, mercenaries and tribals on the same server is weird to me. Having dino-merc or dino-tribal servers is fine for me, just having all of them on one server I don't like. Not sure why, it just feels wrong to have fur huts, electrical fences and dinosaurs in the same place
the three don't fit together imo
fast flume
the tribals won't be tribals as in primitives tho, the are going to be mutated freaks who look like this:
more monsters than human
umbral prairie
they will probably still be able to build stuff
fast flume
yeah, Dondi has talked about placing down treehouses and stuff, so they'll be able to build some stuff atleast
umbral prairie
also only the grey face is a tribal, the ones on the left are not confirmed iirc and the one on the right is something way different and way scarier
the right ones were referred to as 'cannibals', but the cannibals and tribals are actually the same and the ones that used to be called cannibals are something different
fast flume
Ooooh, I agree with Xenoraptor's suggestion 😛
willow zealot
That tribal image looks like Sloth from the goonies
willow zealot
@barren zephyr like humans and dinos can talk to there groups and species with a headset but not to eachother?
barren zephyr
Yeah
And when a dino talks people outside the group hear growls
But that would put the humans at a disadvantage,
coarse shell
@barren zephyr thats still a thing
barren zephyr
really i thought it was gone tbh
indigo sun
I was gonna say, i dont remember that changing
barren zephyr
i never noticed when dinos turned skinny when they were hungry or low on health
coarse shell
its probably less noticeable now because of the bloody cuts they get
limpid dove
they turn skinny, yeah. if you look at a full hunger vs starving dinosaur, youll notice the shading becomes much darker and it looks like the skin is tight. the pale part is hard to notice though
pliant ember
We need fat dinosaurs mechanics
barren zephyr
Do we though?
pliant ember
I'm just joking
barren zephyr
Are you though?
barren zephyr
stray cloak
What if you could over eat past 100%, maybe to 120% or 150%, but it made you regen stam slower till you hunger <= 100%
@pliant ember
thorny lynx
Oh, good, be a fat fuck unable to defend yourself
barren zephyr
That's definitely something wild animals do. Would be an interesting choice to make if you're not sure when your next meal with be.
thorny lynx
People will just keep themselves below 100 for the stam boost
pliant ember
Eat a entire fucking camara as a Utah
willow zealot
Lol
thorny lynx
But I actually wouldn't mind rexes looking like this. I know feather rexes aren't scientifically accurate anymore, but imagine this fat chungus hoppin' around and bobbin' along the water
Its mating dance tho
dummy thicc
barren zephyr
Chungus-Rex
thorny lynx
Tyrannochungus Rex
barren zephyr
I can see an overeating mechanic being a little interesting.
Although it might go against the grain with the direction they're taking food, since I think I've read they don't want people to be able to hoard food.
limpid dove
i feel like the overeating idea needs to be thought through. you'd become slower, an easier target, but you would have more food to feed if you were killed. as for stamina, i feel it should regenerate the same, considering the heavier you are, the slower you are. i do also feel the same if you are below 25% hunger. if you drop below 25% hunger, perhaps you can also run slower due to being weak, but will have much less food if killed, making you perhaps less of a target? idunno
ebon heart
Taking away good bleed from a dilo is like nerfing carnos speed
It’s the only thing that makes it good lol
barren zephyr
A bit too good, 4 bites on a Utah and the Utah has like 20 bleed
Well think about what overeating does to you IRL.
- You move slower
- Can't move/run for as long as usual
- A good chunk of your energy is shunted into digestion
- You get a little sleepy
Getting slapped with a reduction in speed and stamina regen fits quite well with a gluttonous dino IMO. I guess those negatives could be considered offset by the fact that you could go without eating for "much" longer. Like gorge yourself when find a spot to lay down and chillax for a long time.
torpid wedge
but when you're found you are fucked
then again that would help with afk growing so much
barren zephyr
Although all those food related ideas sort of fall flat with the current system as it's pretty basic. If diseases, rotting food, bad water, and maybe even waste (pee/poop) are added in then there will be loads more options for making food/drink interesting.
torpid wedge
i think you'll vomit when you overeat too much
am i wrong? i remember hearing ab that
barren zephyr
Yeah the afk growing stretches are kinda what I was thinking about. That or if you're planning on taking a long road trip across the map and don't want to stop.
Overeating could be tied to raising babies too. Overeat and waddle back to the nest where you can regurgitate some of the food for the kiddos to munch on.
stray cloak
In theory, it would mainly be used for nesting. A Mama dino might over eat knowing she won't be eating or moving for a long time, but making herself even more of an easy target
odd coral
@willow zealot corpse dragging/carrying will be a thing?
indigo sun
yeah, there's videos of it and stuff
stray cloak
I don't like the idea of capping online species, but allowing multiple dinos likely fixes the issue without that
The reson a lot of people are rexes or gigas is because most others get bodied by them, and if you only get one, might as well make it count
That said, multiple dino slots are confirmed, at least as an option for unofficial
viral creek
It's moreso that large animals are far to easy to grow due to the ai spawns
digital shard
That's true. I killed 6 Avoceratops in a span of 30 minutes as a Utah in 1 place last night
plush zephyr
To the fat dinosaur disscussion above this Being fatter would give you a greater health advantage than most, at most being like a 500 to maybe even 1000 health boost
Also be like me and literally control the population of apexes on your own by murdering them at their juvie and sub stages as a para 😄
Also join my buisness
PARA PEST CONTROL
odd coral
i have a suspicious feeling i know you
odd coral
i swear i do
plush zephyr
Oh Do you play the isle
That may be why then.
But
You got any other usernames?
I was once a Wolftrot
But that was the old me
odd coral
yes
torpid wedge
@cinder dew thats on death match servers
cinder dew
Yeah. It would be cool as an item mods can spawn in on any server though
limpid dove
@keen trail rex is getting a few new animations. Should be a lot less stiff when its sniffing and walking
Not sure about which ones but I know the trot, walk and run will be new if im not mistaken
runic heath
Idk if this has been mentioned before but I think territorial marking would be really cool. Like you can set up a territory and you have to maintain it from attackers
shell willow
going back to the overeating thing, imagine eating so much you get diabetes and die
accurate
paper crag
The problem even with multiple dinos per account then it will allow all rexes on a server it will not push players to play different dinos and I dont know but isn't that the point?
shell willow
If you limit how many of which dino you have though, that wouldn't be a problem
like, you can only have 1 apex per server on one account
you can't even have 1 rex and 1 giga, just 1 apex, so people would actually care about whether or not they die
paper crag
Yeah but you still can have 40 rexes on a server at one time that's the problem
shell willow
It won't be a problem in the future when they become even harder to grow and have better competition
If we're talking current game, then yeah, it would be a problem
rexes right now are hella easy to grow and the ability for everyone to have a rex is just insane atm
paper crag
That's what I'm going with because we really dont know what's coming down the line outside live stream chat
shell willow
yeah
I almost never find solo rexes anymore, they're just so easy to grow and their pack limit being at 5 subs/adults is driving every other dino away
paper crag
Tell me why people would need to grow a dylo right now
shell willow
people are busy maining rex like "umm where's the other dinos??" like um idk dude why don't you ask all your rex friends spread across the map
delicate wing
This issue will most likely be fixed with the update. So there is no need for all this stuff until we see the new update and how hard/easy is it to grow dinos
paper crag
That's why I said there should be a limit to how many of species are allowed on a server at a time
narrow rover
But no one know what the update brings on the table
paper crag
Or when there is going to be an update
shell willow
dilos are actually the only other carnivore I would grow right now because of the rexes. they have hella bleed, they can fight rexes and are out here doing gods work while everyone else hides in fear, and sometimes I play maia to kill stray utahs
but other than that?? yeah what's the point
there are just too many rexes for anything else to be enjoyable
paper crag
I was thinking that small herb that can burrow why would people play it as of now what's the perk
shell willow
yeah dryos
people who want to be tiny and fast and roleplay, that's what dryo is for
they play it for the easiest life
shortest growth time
paper crag
But I never see them along most other dinos I hope there is something coming for them but as of now I think the apex species cap would be good that way there is still other apex out hunting you but not so many you cant play other things
runic heath
I like annoying people as a dryo
Or just generally doing things I wouldn’t usually do as any other Dino
Cause if I die or get killed I don’t mind too much
Plus I’m so small and fast
But i don’t play dry I often
Dryo
queen mortar
@willow zealot doesn't the utah's 3 call already sort of do that?
is it not blended like that?
nimble agate
When stopped it sorta does that but not while running I think
sage helm
When running it just lifts its head up and hisses
marble ether
about the Archaeopteryx, I like all ur suggestions except the heat thing, that's just meh
barren zephyr
^
marble ether
however, imo the creature is too small and would have no impact on gameplay
marble ether
I've been wonderin about a creature that could climb trees and float down or smth
but at the same time it needs to be big enouh to bring actual gameplay
barren zephyr
It'd probably be the size of a Velo
leaden night
Fixed damage wouldn't make it not demolished by apexes and not demolished mid-tiers
marble ether
a pack of 0,5m birds will never take out a utah xd
barren zephyr
They fly tough, imagine them swarming a Utah from above, taking little nibbles each time
leaden night
If you give Stego say base 1200 raw per swipe with high bleed, it'll 2-3 shot mid-tiers with sheer raw damage and 6 shot apexes with raw damage
Pretty much every mid-tiers carnivore keels over to bleed horribly easily outside of Carno and Sucho
marble ether
that's like saying a pack of allos could take out a pue
leaden night
So you could argue that an Allo is a one shot
That also leads to the issue with actual apexes
Stego would need to have at least 6k weight and HP to actually stand a chance damage wise
A Stego with 4.5k HP/weight gets 5 shotted by a Giga not even including the 71 bleed it gets
Though the combat system is being completely reworked
barren zephyr
Isn't Albertosaurus basically an Allo?
marble ether
it's a sub rex but faster
unborn quail
Alberto is Basically an animal that can appeal to those who enjoy sub rex, as at some point I doubt staying as a certain life stage will be a thing
Thats only if it's done right of course
waxen elk
Archaeopteryx
Haha yes i love me dino half the size of Taco
Breaking the laws of physics and running faster than Allo
still temple
didnt the devs already said Ptera is going to be the smallest flier
indigo sun
I believe so. Anything smaller than it or dryo, since theyre about the same, will not be added. At least, not as playable
outer nebula
Yup
cobalt summit
Tree lmao all I can think of with your suggestion is a bunch of utahs or something surrounding a rex and all of them just have their mouths open. just everyone's jaws hanging and they all look perpetually surprised
outer nebula
Their quetz will be their largest flier
marble ether
But raptors couldn't really fly, could they? They just floated from tree to tree
so technically it's not a flyer
barren zephyr
more of a glider i think
marble ether
yeah that's the word I was looking for
barren zephyr
Imagine everyone just running around with their jaws open
versed blaze
@bleak hearth thenyaw is a test map, not long for this world.
bleak hearth
versed blaze
Yup.
blazing charm
@swift jacinth If you really wanted to die, then why not just drown yourself first? Not that I want people to start mass drowning themselves, that is.
swift jacinth
Well i did actually just limp to the nearest pond
which is too shallow to drown a maia
apparently
sonic socket
If you allow a suicide option, all people will suicide to have a better spawn. so NO
blazing charm
Having a suicide button kinda defeats the point of a "survival" game, I can think of too many scenarios where a suicide buttom would just ruin the experience.
swift jacinth
people already drown to have a spawn
blazing charm
I don't.
sage helm
I do
blazing charm
I just, y'know...SURVIVE no matter what spawn I get.
sage helm
Most people do
blazing charm
It's fuckin great.
swift jacinth
just because the option is there doesn't mean you gotta use it
blazing charm
Except that, if the option was there SO many people would use it.
sonic socket
+1
swift jacinth
And whats the problem with that?
blazing charm
Oh boy where do I start.
swift jacinth
free bodies on the beach sounds like free juvi food
blazing charm
You'd have people suiciding in a specific spot, with the sole purpose of feeding themselves later on, or someone else.
swift jacinth
as if people have not always done so?
blazing charm
I can imagine tons of instances of people going into spots that are unreachable to other creatures, and just creating a horde of dead bodies.
swift jacinth
especially those with alts
blazing charm
That will always be a thing, but it'd be better not to give them a tool to do it more efficently.
swift jacinth
Then they could always have it NOT LEAVE a body
back when it was progression you could just swap
blazing charm
Okay, new problem
swift jacinth
and it left no corpse behind
blazing charm
I am being hunted, I press the suicide button
now the hunter gets nothing for their efforts.
swift jacinth
that is true, but its already caused by other things
if you can get away for a minute you can safelog
you can be nested and leave nothing behind
blazing charm
Just because there is already one problem, doesn't make it an excuse for adding another.
Those are issues I'm sure the development team are trying to fix.
swift jacinth
as is there isn't a good way for people 1. Switch Creatures, 2. Spawn in the same general area as other members of their species or pack (because yea some species REALLY depend on having a group)
Even adding the option to pick a speciffic SECTION of the map would be beneficial to solving that issue
even if it was just north/south
blazing charm
Because the intention of the game is to SURVIVE, as in avoid death. By all means, the game is pretty damn boring at the moment and staying alive as one creature gets incredibly old. I understand that. But once more mechanics are in place, that most likely won't be too much of a problem.
As for the spawning issue, not sure if this is still planned, but there was that aerial drop spawn idea. Where you spawn in via a metal crate that you can influence the impact area.
I think it was described as "steering" it.
The problem with having people spawn together though, is that certain animals would become a huge problem by immediately having a group set up.
swift jacinth
For example I have a maia, and I'm planning on joining a group doing a event later as a DRYO swarm
And yea playing the same dino for long periods gets old
I had a two week old rex before It finally died
and I didn't encounter a single fight for TWO weeks
blazing charm
That can happen, it has happened to me. It sucks.
But, I didn't immediately give up and suicide off a cliff or into some water.
I walked around, I explored. I eventually found the action I was seeking, eventually it led to my downfall of course.
swift jacinth
My point is that for example I had a rex, but everyone else I play with decided to play herbis
so I had no one to play with making the game incredibly boring and pointless
blazing charm
That's, not the games' fault.
swift jacinth
it shouldn't be that difficult to switch
blazing charm
If your friends decide to be a different creature, ultimately its up to you and them, to settle on something you can all play.
swift jacinth
when family share was enabled at the least people could make an alt and have multiple dinos, while this was heavily abused by many it was a solution to switching dinos
blazing charm
Or you can find someone else to play with.
Okay, it was heavily abused, so it went bye bye
swift jacinth
yes its so easy to find other people to play with in a game where the community is notorious for murdering anyone they see. ESPECIALLY carnivores
blazing charm
^
swift jacinth
I mean honestly a button was completely uneeded for that just "stumble on them" and let em kill ya
blazing charm
Oh, I must have missed that.
ionic comet
when you suicide maybe your corpse appears instead of just leaving
blazing charm
Were any details on how it would work given?
You'd still have the issue of people feeding.
blazing charm
It would make it more efficient to do.
ionic comet
It'd still happen
blazing charm
It probably won't be a thing in the future, possibly through Affinity or some other mechanic.
swift jacinth
It's a thing that will never go away as long as you can kill people
Anyone who wants to die or feed someone will just let themselves be killed
In regards to saying we need larger Dryo stomachs we have a pitiful 50 points
if it rains we start starving cause we can't sniff out food and our stomach doesn't last long in the juvie stages
if it rains we start starving cause we can't sniff out food and our stomach doesn't last long in the juvie stages
putting one click of food into our nest is HALF our stomach
indigo sun
I'm gonna have to seriously disagree with that shit. Why should you get an advantage cause you've got money? That's not fair to kids who play this game or even people who don't make enough money to spend an extra twelve dollars on something they already spent 20 on. Youre asking someone to pay pretty much 2/3 of what they paid for the full game a month.
Why the fuck do richer people get cool shit that's intended for all players? Nah man. That's some bullshit.
@barren zephyr
civic sky
It’s bad enough that there’s an unofficial server that lives off of that pretty much, let’s not make it an official thing please.
north phoenix
Isle premium? That’s exploiting serious pay to win.
indigo sun
No thanks. No pay to win for me
sonic socket
It's a troll. well i hope
north phoenix
Hell no. 👎
civic sky
I know it’s a joke thanks to the (Kappa) on the bottom but please no lol.
indigo sun
Dumbest troll I've ever seen, honestly. Like, some people would actually want some of those things like only premium having apexes and skin customization
indigo sun
Well I was kinda busy reading the dumb shit, sorry
blazing charm
Honestly feel like joke suggestions should honestly be against the rules, it just clogs up the channel.
marble ether
thought u were a mod so I was like, just delete it lol
Kinda used to green being mods
sonic socket
too much junk suggestion in this channel
and some people posting things like it's a normal chat channel
stoic crow
What do you think about my suggestion?
teal grotto
@barren zephyr screw your pay 2 win suggestion.. We got too many games with that junk its maddening..
Kappa
barren zephyr
i strongly disagree, it is always good to support developers
teal grotto
Not with scummy microtransactions "kappa"
barren zephyr
its not microtransactions its support, the foundation of any good community
shell willow
I seriously can't tell if it's serious or not
barren zephyr
i do not see any negatives
teal grotto
Im hoping hes not serious @shell willow
barren zephyr
get rid of the thumbs down on my post please not appreciated
leaden trellis
Making a premium account for this game would essentially be pay to win @barren zephyr
I see how it could help game development, but that would just be unfair. Halfing the rex grow timer would just about grow faster than a Allo. The Isle is just not the game for monthly/timely transactions to gain personal benefits.
barren zephyr
Why in the fucks name would ANYONE suggest a p2w game, the hell is wring with you @barren zephyr
night reef
I say if you want to help the developers, a patreon could be made and people could donate
barren zephyr
I want to support developers it is important
barren zephyr
Idk man, go make another steam account, and buy more copies
leaden trellis
I get that, but your idea is just pay to win
barren zephyr
Don't suggest p2w
leaden trellis
It would simply ruin the game, and people would no longer want to play it with p2w'ers
night reef
an there should be some incentives too, but like different color skins and customization options
barren zephyr
I doubt they will ever make a subscription mechanic, it's not a free to play game, people would hate 'em
night reef
halving grow times and dino stats I dont think would be the way to do it.
Like, I would totally donate money to get a Neovenator skin for my allos. just saying
but no stat changes
umbral prairie
you can supposet the devs, but not by making the game stupid for everyone that doesn't want to spend 12$ per month, that is just stupid.
barren zephyr
Yeah, buying skins I'm fine with, but the stuff he said about stamina and hunger draining faster is pure p2w
night reef
Thats why I suggested Patreon
barren zephyr
Slower*
indigo sun
I dont even like buying skins
leaden trellis
We aren't trying to hate on you, but that just will not work with this game. @barren zephyr
outer nebula
not to mention all the perks you suggested takes away what players already have
night reef
If people are going to donate, they should receive some incentives, and I think exclusive skins or reskins would be a good way to do it.
umbral prairie
I'd be fine with DLCs that let you buy reskinned dinos like corythosaurus or pachyrhino, maybe they will have some minor advantages over what they're a reskin of but nothing too strong, having way faster growth and less food/water drain is just unfair for the base game players
outer nebula
for one you said that premium members should have a differnt growth time and slower hunger and thirst drain. in this game they want everyone to have a fair chance
random knoll
Kappa
marble ether
Man you guys are some stupid fucks if you are still.believing the p2w dude sheesh
outer nebula
not to mention that only premium members have access to apex will give those who have money an edge over other players. this is both unfair to the player base
umbral prairie
you can never be sure, there were already so many dumb suggestions made that I often have a hard time spotting the troll ones
stoic crow
Why i have got so many 👎on my post?
stoic crow
What velo?
umbral prairie
it is just too small, it would just take away player slots without adding anything to the ecosystem
outer nebula
velocirapter
stoic crow
No it can fly and is faster.
night reef
as an AI it might be ok
umbral prairie
nothing would really catch it, and if it was caught it would not give any food.
random knoll
Yep
stoic crow
Its enough food for pteranodons, I think
umbral prairie
enough food for one dino that would not even be able to really catch them is not really enough
night reef
or maybe as something like the insects or butterflys are
random knoll
Maybe ai I guess
stoic crow
Food for juv utha!
random knoll
Ai
outer nebula
beside they said nothing smaller then a ptera will be a playable dino
night reef
so you cant actually eat them or attack them, just like the bugs
stoic crow
But yeah as an AI for pteranodons and uthas.
umbral prairie
how tf is juv utah gonna catch that
indigo sun
It could work as an ai. I could see that.
random knoll
Yeah it just wouldn’t really work other then AI
umbral prairie
even then it wouldn't work unless the AI is made super dumb (so it doesn't flee), something that small and fast would not be caught by anything, and would, if somehow caught, only really give food to very small things.
indigo sun
See, I don't think it should be super fast. Maybe speedy enough to escape if you just try to run at it, but perhaps it existing in the jungles, should someone spawn there or be nested there, could allow for enough cover to stalk it.
We cant guarantee ptera will be fastest, and juvis can have a hard time catching just the land based ai if it doesnt get stuck and stop moving every two steps
stoic crow
But its onehit and like every other AI it will react really slow.
-To slow...
And now what do you think can you react 👍🏻or👎?
indigo sun
Regardless of slow reaction, it could still escape pretty much everything that tries to eat it. And if it's too fast for ptera, then it'd be a waste for someone to go after it when they could just peck an oro to death easier
stoic crow
But it has not much stam.
And you could come from above!
With much more speed, it would need much time to get the same speed.
outer nebula
we can sit here and talk about this but ultimately its up to the devs
stoic crow
Thats right, should I change the suggestion speed to “a little bit slower”?
indigo sun
I mean, the point of the channel is discussing this
jaunty remnant
are there any servers to play as a hypo yet?
jaunty remnant
ok
ionic comet
Dang that trolls bait was good, got so many people
barren zephyr
oi oi
indigo sun
I'm pretty sure theyre not gonna touch Thenyaw anymore. I mean, someone feel free to correct me, but v3 and the new map is what they seem to be focused on.
Well, new map moreso
jagged badge
What about the floating grass
edgy furnace
i doubt theyll do anything more with thenyaw
jagged badge
One can dream
indigo sun
The new map might be better suited for things like spino and deino
vestal rune
I don't think bonebreak being removed on everything was mainly because of herbis abusing it
I think the main reason bonebreak being removed was because it is a shitty system which makes fights based on RNG(which is NEVER good, skill should be rewarded, not luck)
rex has it because it needs it
however once more work on combat is implemented and bonebreak gets reworked I'm sure it'll come back to things like anky, pachy ect...
Also anky is sandbox, so untill it gets added to survival it's not gonna get much work
jagged badge
That’s what I said, if not now than if/when it becomes survival maybe
indigo sun
Please no dino poop. It's not necessary just use footprints and your hearing and a map with populated areas
still temple
scat fetish community in TI confirmed
blazing charm
Ah yes, the monthly poop suggestion.
umbral prairie
nice that it isn't weekly anymore
blazing charm
Honestly, as stupid as it is
I guess it COULD offer some kind of interesting twist for like, scent mechanics.
but otherwise, why?
I feel like people don't suggest it because of how it could affect gameplay, they just do it because "poopoo funny xD"
indigo sun
I'd rather have a sort of territory marker than poop to tell me where things are
blazing charm
True, you can still have the unique addition to scent
and less piles of shit
it's a win-win
indigo sun
See, stuff like your idea is good, but I feel like the colors might get confusing.
Red is for corpses, green is for bushes so yeah, carnivore and herbivore, but maybe something different so herbivores dont get confused by the color and carnivores wont think theres a gore pile nearby
jagged badge
I mean that’s why I suggested a haze
It could be like a little fog
That sits around the area
umbral prairie
I don't get what territories would do, it would just give away your position. It would scare away potential prey and lure in potential predators
indigo sun
True
jagged badge
They would let you be away if your heading somewhere dangerous or somewhere with possible prey
unborn quail
@blazing charm poop
jagged badge
Plus would let people know where to go to find someone to try and get like a mate or possible take a territory
blazing charm
@unborn quail die
unborn quail
blazing charm
Anyway, going back to topic
Honestly having a hard time thinking of some advantage for "territories" other than a small stat boost or affinity.
And honestly, stat boosts are ew
blazing charm
Oh god yeah
Like, it just seems like an incredibly lazy way of incentivizing players.
unborn quail
Affinity boosts a rex into strength levels of being able to take 4 other rexes with ease
Omegalul
Until Affinity is actually figured out, on terms of what 'stats' it changes, Making suggestions around it seem a tad void
jagged badge
I don’t think there needs to be a boost or anything cause that could be game breaking if it goes wrong
nimble agate
What is it with people and poop here 
ionic comet
poop fetish
gaunt marsh
I feel like with how many players there can be on a server pooping could cause some lag.
And what would be the point of it being there??
jagged badge
Probably would cause lag like destroyed nest
spiral pond
The reason why herbivores can’t sniff while walking is to prevent them from tracking down carnivores and killing them
I mean if it only showed food when walk sniff it might work ok
umbral prairie
I don't think herbis need a speed buff, but I personally would like some attacks for runners like para (herbivores that are designed to run) that don't do a lot of damage but slow the predator down, for example if an allo runs up behind a para the para can smack the allo with it's tail, slowing it down and giving the para time to run a bit before the allo can follow (it should only slow for less than 2 seconds)
blazing charm
Carnivores are required to track prey on the move, that means they need to be as mobile as possible, Herbivores have the advantage of having a food source that doesn't move. So why exactly would they need to be able to use scent while moving?
umbral prairie
only reason is convenience. I'd be fine with it if sniffing while trotting would not highlight footprints
blazing charm
But then you have the issue of Herbivores having a way easier time outpacing Carnivores, since then would be able to scent, find food and water and then just book it somewhere else as quickly as possible.
Don't get me wrong, I hate having to stand still to sniff but I can see WHY it's there.
umbral prairie
I thought about being able to sniff while walking so they still slow down but don't have to stand still completely, but that would probably be similarly annoying.
civic sky
Thanks to the ambush mechanic carnivores are almost never outpaced by herbs, it needs to be slightly more punishing in fact I’d argue that rex is the only one with a fair ambush. Aside from that though I do agree with King.
paper oriole
Slow herbis like trike at least should have it, for the carnis worrying about being "outpaced'
Even though thats a terrible reason anyway
barren zephyr
@unborn quail uses Wall of Text!
It was super effective!
unborn quail
blazing charm
I'm sure once Carmara comes in either as playable, or AI its fall height will be addressed.
Or new mechanics relating to fall damage, but until then there are probably higher priorities.
barren zephyr
I'm glad to see most of time everybody likes my suggestions...
https://cl.ly/93a93d5fa9e0
https://cl.ly/b30e94b1b3f6
https://cl.ly/98462113b9ba
odd coral
@unborn quail YES
edgy furnace
Mosa with legs
misty island
@chrome flax how about wings
chrome flax
wings and legs
ph god
oh no
what have i done
i can see it in my head
it's
s p 0 0 k
barren zephyr
@wanton root they do previews go to the their YouTube channel🤦
Insect AI probably would be too much unless we are talking about giant spiders
or other gigantic insects
sonic socket
we keep eqting qnd drinking in the gqme
its survival
so dino should poop and pee
xD
this is a chance to track others dinos too
fleet pelican
"Cover the earth", that was my dog's philosophy....
spiral pond
Did we get another poop suggestion?
fleet pelican
yep
spiral pond
Utah is on Rex tail rex shits poop on utah utah gets stuck
fleet pelican
more like idiot juvi is sneaking around and gets crushed by giant falling turd
spiral pond
Yes
fleet pelican
admit it, it has to have happened
spiral pond
Fuck proper mechanics let’s have poop
fleet pelican
mice have a lot more to fear from elephants than elephants have to fear from mice
barren zephyr
mild diarrhea
spiral pond
Oh yes !
fleet pelican
makes you wonder how many tiny animals have died that way... following elephants a little too closely
what a horrible way to go...
but seriously why put that in the isle
poop i mean, not the other stuff i was making fun of
spiral pond
Wierd did you mute me Lamb ? I can’t ever react to your messages
barren zephyr
sonic socket
what is the relation with ark ?
ark sux
the isle can make a beautiful poop mechanic
pulsar lake
@barren zephyr i think ai spawn should start not a 10% but more at 50% because it's at this moment than you are hungry and not before.
misty island
i got it
dont agree tho
should make ai spawn in a different way
cus just lowering its spawn rate would go back to the problem
where ppl starve to death
lets be honest
what can a sub giga eat
in a full pop server
leaden night
Juvs
misty island
the thing is
everyone is saying
apex is too easy to grow
but the fact is its not
thats why people afk growth when theres no one on
if you want to prevent that
just simply dont let people play apex no matter growth until it reaches certain amount of population
odd coral
It’s not too easy to grow apexes, but since there are so many it becomes easy
Or yknow
Eat a bagel
@barren zephyr that’s for individual servers dipshit
Servers have their own rules
misty island
@barren zephyr see if my suggestion helps?
rotund tartan
you people need to understand one SIMPLE thing.
POOOP WILL NOT HAPPEN
stop talking about it
I.m sure the admins have more important things to fix, like, oh, like the damn HITBOX ... so rexes or trikes or even ceras that are not even in the same neighborhood as you are but yet you still get tagged and die
future content
future dinos
I can go on and the list can go on and on
I would say the stupid poop talk is not even on the damn list... and most people dont event want it, yes , it's realistic, is it needed for the game ? No
are the other things that actually improve the game needed ? Yes
versed blaze
Find a mirror. 😉
rotund tartan
who
versed blaze
Let it go......
rotund tartan
I don't get it , but .............. I'll let it go
rotund tartan
did you even read what I said ?
sonic socket
let it go ?
rotund tartan
oh god
sonic socket
new skin colors improve the game ?
rotund tartan
oh come on !
sonic socket
well i saw tones of sh*t written in suggestion
i agree with you, there is a lot of thing to improve first
jagged badge
Why do people think poop is epic rar xd funny and should be added to the game
It would just make the game laggier
barren zephyr
to get their fetishes ingame probs
versed blaze
Because people keep responding to it like in here
barren zephyr
omf
brisk mesa
@misty island While that idea is super interesting, my fear of exploitation isn't of them using it to spawn food, hell, current food is already inarguably busted in how easy it makes the game. No I'd love if AI spawns were only influenced by territories it would be a really cool feature.
Rather my issue comes from the idea of the following:
If territories are something you actively made / placed down or whatever, that means there's the option not to do so... and herbivores have no benefit from territories with what you stated in their idea. So herbivores would just, not make them and have a clear indication of where predators who'd absolutely WANT to be making them to spawn AI are.
Furthermore with AI herbivores spawning things just below the adult's tier, imagine a Triceratops going over to say, Twins right? Plops down it's territory. Acros, not a threat to a grown ass Trike, are now spawning... but devouring juvies that spawn in to hell itself
misty island
@brisk mesa the point of carni spawn is to make afk nesting a risk to take
and if this would be implimented
i believe haveing a buff in growth would also be in order
but thats a bit too far
i already suggested two systems
beside
herbis not marking an area
----> Grazing
and for where to place it
brisk mesa
Ah ok so herbivores could only graze within their territory then?
misty island
nonono
think about it now
and before
the places you call herbi hills
whats the difference
form not having a territory
i am trying to make it so
players are not obilgated to use this feature
but if they do they have benifit
brisk mesa
You gave 0 incentive for herbivores to make a territory.
brisk mesa
In the suggestion you made... there's only a detriment of spawning carnivore AI.
brisk mesa
Herbivores wouldn't make a territory.
misty island
when apex comes in
brisk mesa
So AI does not spawn in your territory if there aren't any predators?
misty island
no
they still spawn
but they dont have to attack you
they would aim for your youngs
ideally
so no more constant leaving your kids to play in the open
you gotta be worried
that something could come out of a bush or smthing
as for benifits
i mean devs could always build on it as they see fit
or not use the system at all
but keep contrubiting
brisk mesa
It's your suggestion and I'm pointing out a major flaw in it.
misty island
see if you can come up with something
i dont mind people using my ideas....
just
credit me
brisk mesa
Well, you need to make players want to not only make a territory, but stay within it and defend it from others.
brisk mesa
Talking herbivores if I may finish, I have two things in mind
misty island
on a side note, @rotund tartan one SIMPLE thing
poop appeared once
thats all youve got from my suggestion?
rotund tartan
I didnt read all the things... just saw "poop" again, didnt even see your name . heh
misty island
^good job
rotund tartan
thank you ❤
brisk mesa
The only two ways to drive players to meet said criteria for a placed territory are either to make it a question of resources - like what you did for the carnivores, or make it about receiving a buff... that is lost under certain conditions.
And I feel that herbivores should have the latter because it can actually help make their gameplay different from carnivores.
How about herbivores, in their territory, would have any of their offspring gain a bonus to growth speed, so that nesting them in is actually faster. However, if any other species nests within your herbivore territory, said bonus to your babies is lost + if any carnivores are in said territory your babies do not gain the growth speed buff.
This would drive parents to actively protect the territory from intruders and drive off any herbivores that try to nest there. If any carnivores show up they'd try and drive them off or lure them out of said territory so that their babies can grow faster. This notion of it not directly benefitting them but their babies would really help make herbivores the 'social' aspect to gameplay.
You'd make the buff substantial but given how prone it is to going inactive this would force parents to really be active in order to maximize the growth speed their descendants get. Maybe something like 33% faster, so for a Trike which normally takes 6hrs and 30min to get from being nested in, if the parents did a very good job their hatchling might be a full adult in a bit over 4hrs and 20min!
Imagine if some Parasaurolophus family are suddenly aware of an Allosaurus' presence so they all either try and lure it away so their juvies can be adults faster, or they try and scare it off - without wanting to actually kill it for risk of their own deaths.
misty island
1 question
what if the nesting wave happened when theres no carni on
nvm
difference species would also interfere
so you either group up for protection
or you only have your species for speedy growth
actaully with the recently 15 max pack limit
they could force them to move from thier nest
after they are grown
so
@brisk mesa see if i got anything wrong
brisk mesa
Only other herbivores of a different species nesting would cause a detriment; if Trikes see a Maia show up there's no issue until it tried making a nest. THEN they're fucking upset and trashing their nest / driving the Maias off
So you'd never see mixed nesting sites unless there's no territory actively being done.
In which case they are taking longer to get to adult than simply spawning on the beach
Now the moment a carnivore enters their turf, THAT would halt the benefit for their time being inside
AI carnivores wouldn't be a detriment, but still pose a threat to their young
Would honestly be super fun IMO
misty island
you wanna know something...
i posted this 5 times
this is the only positive respond i had
lmfao
altho i did keep on editing it
so iguess
no more afk growing
for both sides
"carnivores have a set of prefered prey items." Avas
grand brook
in theory that's be how it should work, but sadly that's not always how it plays out
clever leaf
torvo would just be sucho but fully terrestrial
we should push to get in alberto rather than torvo
marble ether
but alberto is just another tyrannosaurid..
clever leaf
Diablo is just another ceratopsian like trike but it exists
grand brook
but the dibble is a middle sized ceratopsian, which we only have one as opossed to 4 mid sized carnivores
hasty parcel
yet all the mid-sized carnivores are also quite different from one another
clever leaf
its honestly just kinda unfair to deny alberto for being a "sub rex clone" when there's already diablo who you could call a "sub trike clone" by that logic
juveniles/subadults covering niches 
hasty parcel
ye, is just wrong
normal fern
If different stats were enough to justify a dino then acro would be in-game
Even if you give Alberto bonebreak it'll still be a generalist, we already have Allo filling that spot as it's intended niche
Even if you removed sub rex Alberto wouldn't have a niche
brittle ivy
@stoic crow You have suggested this same idea three times now, please do not spam the #general-feedback channel with the same suggestion.
misty island
@jagged badge butbutbut
i thought its only mammals that have this trait
reptile can breed with relatives ?
jagged badge
I’m not quite sure but I don’t think Dinosaurs would’ve
I’ll check
Also dinosaurs aren’t reptiles so
It does effect Reptiles and Birds
So
It would definitely effect dinosaurs most likely
Maybe it could’ve also been a part of their extinction since not all dinosaurs would’ve died from the asteroid so they’d probably try and breed again if they are able and soon those babies might breed with each other so
barren zephyr
@blazing charm Doesn't seem too terribly difficult to implement either since bots can most definitely add reaction emotes on their own. Have a bot add a 
/ 
to each comment in the #general-feedback channel.
Like you said, that could make things a little easier to understand than the mish-mash of random reactions currently in there.
I think on mobile you can't even see what a reaction means unless you already know what it is, since you can't mouse over them there.
blazing charm
Sometimes they're easy to understand. Like the Pin, thumbsup/thumbsdown, tick and the X
But when people just spell words out, that's kind of a problem.
Anyway, I'm getting off track.
@barren zephyr I can see that being abused, alot.
random knoll
fell like that would engourage people to go out and revenge kill or just hutning the person down over and over
blazing charm
I can see that being used alot for toxic behaviour, incase you've never looked in any of the server channels. People LOVE to boast about killing, so imagine if they had names.
And yeah, what Hexa said.
random knoll
yeah
barren zephyr
How can you revenge kill if you see their name only a couple of sseconds after them dying?
brisk mesa
So boom
There's a solution.
Rather than an abusable bandaid
we'll get an actual fix
brisk mesa
Bodies will float and can be pushed around to shore.
So nobody can deny food this way
blazing charm
As for the issue regarding people dying in water, other than calling a moderator (Which I understand can be, unreliable at times.)
A better long term solution would be to have bodies float towards the shore.
barren zephyr
You see it, and DM a mod.
random knoll
yep
brisk mesa
Furthermore death by drowning is going to slam affinity
blazing charm
You'd need to take a screenshot of the proof, which means you need to have the name appear for a good number of seconds
barren zephyr
What's affinity?
indigo sun
I can't wait for people to lose their safety in water. Except when I'm sucho, then i'll kinda hate it. but otherwise it'll be great
brisk mesa
So if your a dumbass who wants to deny food you'll be punished for it
A planned system in the game
If you have low affinity your dinosaur's a lot weaker
hungrier and thirstier
and it will be a lot harder to gain affinity than to lose it
barren zephyr
Yeah make it appear for like 10 secs, but it's irrelevant now, cuz bodies will float in the future tm
How would you gain affinity?
brisk mesa
Consistent good behavior = rewarded, being a dick every now and again = slammed
blazing charm
Affinity is a proposed system that is designed to encourage players to play dinosaurs in a certain way. So for example a Suchomimus would gain Affinity for fishing, and you would lose affinity for being around too many other creatures, or being near creatures of another species.
brisk mesa
Acting as your dinosaur plans to.
blazing charm
We don't know too much about the system currently.
brisk mesa
^^^
But anyways no, your 'solution' is not one.
Now tbh... a good fix in general would be having a server log keep track of deaths and what caused them
But that would need to wait for the recode so the game can actually tell causes of death from one another.
Example in log, Player ID X "died from blood loss" ; Player ID Y "died from lack of oxygen", Player ID Z "died from a fall"
etc.
Along with a timestamp.
barren zephyr
I'd be game for that. Have it similar to what you see in DayZ.
Player X [species] was killed by Player Y [species]
brisk mesa
Yeah, only in server log.
brisk mesa
Yeah.
People with access to the database files.
So if someone drops a report of someone drowning to deny food
ionic comet
^
brisk mesa
they can line up the time of the incident with whoever died
barren zephyr
That'd be excellent if that mod/admin only log has the gps coordinates of each death too. Make a heat map for activity that the mods can share if they want.
barren zephyr
Haha I add both up and downvotes in for others to use if they want :p
brisk mesa
Sweet
blazing charm
@versed blaze What, an ability to see names after death, or a proper voting system?
versed blaze
Not the voting, the logging
barren zephyr
Good deal
blazing charm
Ah.
barren zephyr
@paper crag I'd be game for copy & pasting trample to more dinos if/when the hitboxes are tightened up. Giving everything above X size an automatic kill zone at their feet feels like a band aid and poor solution to an issue.
If/when the hitboxes are tightened up it'd be cool to have trample only work if the foot actually comes into contact with the other dino.
Or if there was a separate attack specifically for the feet.
paper crag
im just saying the taco should not be able to live while i bite it 20+ time run over it who knows how much all the while im standing over it the thing make a call
its easer to kill an ava half the time then a taco when your a larger dino
barren zephyr
And I'm not disagreeing with you.
vestal rune
as far as I know, diets have been confirmed for a while
indigo sun
I think the list was more meant to be specifically what each dinosaur's diet should be
vestal rune
also the choices for diets there are, bizzare....
fallen plover
sry @echo bridge
vestal rune
ceratopsians specializing in rotten tree bark?
stoic crow
@fallen plover change it to big grass -the other thing would be to op!
fallen plover
ok
vestal rune
I think hadrosaurs would be better suited for grazing
ceratopsians should likely eat thick fibrous plants
stoic crow
@fallen plover now its a really nice idea!
vestal rune
an idea which has always been planned lol
ionic comet
It'd be cool if some herbis could only digest specific plants
fallen plover
@stoic crow remember, its @echo bridge idea
echo bridge
Posted a more developed version lower
@vestal rune I already know that specific diets were planned, just had a discussion in #401464048610312195 about it so I wanted to culminate a more developed idea. I didn't want to post something that was definitively what the devs have to do, just a more fleshed out idea.
versed blaze
@willow zealot dondi said no first person.
willow zealot
:(
vestal rune
imagine first person with how much your dino's head moves
fleet pelican
Stego threat display. The stego flattens its plates, hisses, and waves its tail. You don't often see mention of the possibility that they could move their plates. I mentioned this as a suggestion last night, but I would like to see what would be said in discussion.
indigo sun
Uh, like that one animated stego facing off against some carnivore?
vestal rune
flattening its plates?
fleet pelican
yeah, make them go sideways
vestal rune
like them moving to the side to make some weird umbrella?
I find that really unlikely, it would look so stupid with how little support there is under the plate
indigo sun
That was disproven as a possibility for something stego could do
vestal rune
and that lol
if you want something to do with threatening and plates, the classic blood filling is always a good idea
indigo sun
I like the swinging tail, though
barren zephyr
Maybe they could shake their back in a way that would cause the plates to "rattle" 
indigo sun
Waving its tail around in a threat display could work
shrewd vapor
I like the tail waving thing though. I'd like if stegos did something with their tail similar to how an anky smashes when it 3 calls
fleet pelican
yeah, reminds me of the anky
vestal rune
is there an animation I'm not seeing? lol
indigo sun
like stego smacks the ground? cause that doesnt seem like something it would do unless it had a club-like tail to show off the power of
fleet pelican
i haven't seen an animation released for the calls yet
indigo sun
No one has, as far as i know
fleet pelican
no, a tail side to side wave
indigo sun
I'm talking about what ink said
fleet pelican
oh
indigo sun
cause it sounded a lot like that's what theyre sayin
indigo sun
Gotcha
vestal rune
oh, nines just mentioned something about some animation and I thought he was using that as an example lol
fleet pelican
it would be cool to see the stego also use the tail in the threat call
they'll probably do it too
shrewd vapor
No @indigo sun I just meant a similar animation. Kinda like the anky, or when the cama 3 call it does the tail whip. Just with the stego it's be a sway from side to side
ye what ^^^
indigo sun
There's some old-ass movie from god knows how long ago with stego facing off against something. and it like, flattened its plates. Bryan showed it during a stream once, which is where I learned it was disproven
fleet pelican
ah
vestal rune
ah lol
shrewd vapor
that sounds... Kinda horrifying
indigo sun
I dont know where to find it
fleet pelican
i think that might be what i'm remembering when i picture it
fleet pelican
i thought i had a smart idea! now i just feel stupid! 😢
barren zephyr
Stego flushing blood into its plates @ 1:33
https://youtu.be/eUdcrYvhJr8?t=93
indigo sun
that one's neat
barren zephyr
Frightening
fleet pelican
that's pretty cool
ionic comet
ahh yes
indigo sun
I did end up finding that original animation. it's from a 1992 documentary called The Dinosaurs.
fleet pelican
i have another idea that is for herbivore food, but it's probably been thought up before.
a larger shrub and a small tree. The top half and the bottom half of the larger shrub are eaten separately and the top half can only be reached by adult apex herbivores and sauropods while the tree can only be reached by the adult apex herbs and sauropods
stoic crow
@leaden burrow why💆
barren zephyr
@leaden burrow
jade schooner
@leaden burrow leave comments and talk in the #general-feedback-discussion channel. Only suggestions in #general-feedback
barren zephyr
I totally get the appeal of first person. Survival games can be a little more immersive and or horrifying when you can't see 360° around your character, and can't peek over hills and around corners with this magical floating mystery camera.
But if Dondi said no, then that're pretty much end of story.
vestal rune
if you want that then you're gonna love humans
barren zephyr
I'm hoping human gameplay turns out to be "Shit your pants out of fear every 5 minutes" style.
vestal rune
that's definetly what they're gonna go for, I think the "survival horror" part of the game is geared way more to humans than to dinosaurs
barren zephyr
I remember reading or hearing that there will be those anti-material weapons in the game that can absolutely 1 shot any dino, but they'll be few and far between with heavy drawbacks to using them. Like you'll move at half speed since they weight so much, or you'll make extra noise while moving, etc.
umbral prairie
I hope they will make a good job at balancing guns, both heavier weapons and their ammo should be rare and hard to get, and you should be less agile the heavier your weapon is. Also bigger weapons should be louder so shooting them might lure in smaller dinosaurs, which will be hard to kill with heavy weapons.
I hate the idea of a 'one shot everything' weapon
clever leaf
being a dilo and spotting humans during the night time to get the jump on them
👌
I hate the mentality of people think they'll be indestructible and shoot every single dinosaur as a human with no drawbacks
umbral prairie
sure, some weapons should kill bigger dinos like rex if you shoot at the brain
but not just 'oh a rex, let's kill it'
clever leaf
tbh big dinos could use some resistance to bullets. That'd be real shitty after you grew a rex for like 7 hours, then boom you die from a gunshot
umbral prairie
guns need locational damage
clever leaf
they'd be easier to shoot than small dinos, but that doesnt mean they should be cheap af to kill
bears/boars can survive gunshots today
iirc
and yes, tbh humans and guns wouldnt work without locational damage
umbral prairie
even heavy guns should only be able to one shot if you fire directly at where the brain is, shooting the snout should also do a lot of damage but no one shot. shots at the tails should do next to nothing besides some bleed, maybe they will implement organ shots (increased damage if you shoot at the chest of some dinos. Smaller guns should not do anything against big mid tiers or apexes imo, except if you shoot at an eye (which is next to impossible if that dino is running at you)
barren zephyr
"cheap af to kill" It's a good thing that from what I've heard at least, those weapons won't be "cheap af" to acquire or use.
I think I've also read that there won't be much of a reason for humans to go hunting dinos beyond defending their home territory. So like imagine you find one of those anti-material weapons, then spend the time it takes to lug the thing back home. You likely won't want to go out and risk yourself and the weapon killing a big dino when there isn't much, if anything, to gain from it and you'll be making everything within a couple kilometers aware of your position .
clever leaf
tbf i can tell theres gonna be human players that will wanna kill for fun
like
they dont even need a reason
barren zephyr
IF that's how it end up working I'd definitely want to stash that gun in whatever works as a base and save it for when something big is directly threatening that base.
umbral prairie
they could if they got luckyy and worked for heavy weapons, but it is better for them to 1. not run around with heavy weapons if alone and 2. not use them unless a rex charges them since it has drawbacks
barren zephyr
Yeah those assholes will absolutely exist. But if the weapons are rare enough it will be a small problem. Rare enough and as long as they don't always spawn in the same spot.
random knoll
both ammo and guns would most lickley be rare
clever leaf
yeah those weapons shouldnt spawn in the same place. people are gonna know where to go otherwise
random knoll
making you not want to waste ammo if needed
umbral prairie
I mean you should be able to get things like a 9mm pretty easily, maybe even spawn with one but with low ammo, since even a utah could take some 9mm shots if they don't get shot at the head.
clever leaf
should enforce the "make your shots count" notion
barren zephyr
Something I really hope humans get is tracking darts. A dart that give a GPS ping of the dino say every 5-10 minutes and would fall off/run out of battery after maybe an hour.
The only exploit that comes to mind right now is if people playing a human and dino are communicating via discord or something and the humans use those darts to help the dinos hunt.
random knoll
i think its been said mercs will spawn with pistols
umbral prairie
There was talk about mercs having a tracking device showing if a carni is close, and that nested dinos wouldn't have these implemented trackers and therefore would be better at killing humans. Not sure if that is actually planned or just an idea though
Imagine walking through a forest at night and suddently hearing a 'ping' sound, slowly getting faster
barren zephyr
Nerdgasm intensifies
random knoll
"....o...oo....SHIT!"
versed blaze
@shrewd vapor discuss in here please.
shrewd vapor
@/ Xenoraptor#1935
but I like the field dolphins
their majestic
Like deer skipping through a field
versed blaze
@willow zealot I feel like I'm the bearer of bad news all day. Thenyaw was a test map from what I understand. I wouldn't expect many changes to it or for it.
willow zealot
Oh
versed blaze
That's why no officials are on thenyaw.
Now with Hope on the way, even V3 may not be around. We don't know for sure though.
spiral pond
I mean V3 is kinda good and more then 1 map would be good
barren zephyr
Any idea how big Hope will be?
unborn quail
Bigger than v3 iirc
versed blaze
@swift jacinth Definition of stream sniping. Stream snipers are those who watch a Twitch stream of a game while playing it themselves to get a read on where another player is so that they can go take them down. Don't do that and it's a non issue. I'd suggest that if you're going to hunt a streamer you NOT be in their stream. Pretty simple.
swift jacinth
I'm aware I am suggesting that this definition be place somewhere as there have been incidents recently where people have been banned for having a stream open and hanging out on the other side of the map
I think personally it would be of great benefit to streamers if their viewers didn't have to worry about being banned for having stream open, even on the other side of the world
versed blaze
You don't. If you kill them and you're in their stream, well, that's an issue.
Again, if you're not doing anything wrong an announcement doesn't apply to you. ;)
swift jacinth
Alright, I was just hoping to help make it clear so other incidents don't occur in the future
versed blaze
If you're half a map away, it's not an issue.
This isn't hard. If you're gonna a hunt them, best to leave their stream.
swift jacinth
I'm not saying its hard, I'm saying there have been issues recently. And now people don't feel comfortable watching streams if they aren't even near the streamer I would think that is of detriment to the view count
versed blaze
Well, that's their issue. First ban is only 24 hours anyway and we post announcements first. Again, if you aren't doing sny thing wrong, why are you worrying?
Don't. We aren't mean monsters that ban on a whim. I promise.
feral wedge
@wraith prawn Your post in feedback is more suited for a suggestion, unless you wish to re-word it.
wraith prawn
thorny lynx
@cobalt summit
Rex: Purr-ahh...rr...
Giga: HURRRRR!
cobalt summit
They honest-to-god sound like semi truck horns. or motherfucking trains
just a really loud martial shout
thorny lynx
Giga needs to chill the fuck out with its distance 3 call
cobalt summit
KAA
also it's 4-call is hecking hilarious
and nobody knows what it is because nobody's ever made a giga 4-call
so when you hear one in the distance you're just oH mY gOd WaS tHaT a HyPo
thorny lynx
I've heard giga 4 calls all the time
Acro 2 call would sound more friendly if it was shortened
After the third 'note,' it could fade out.
subtle adder
Yesh
wintry cipher
Maybe pachy has a jump to escape dilo tho and giving dilo jump would invalidate that 🤔
torpid wedge
isn't pachy faster
barren zephyr
keep in mind pachy is faster than dilo...
yeh
so dilo can escape.
if given jump lol
torpid wedge
then yeah if the dilo is getting chased
barren zephyr
mhm
torpid wedge
but i doubt it
when people bring up maia v dilo its usually
the dilo shouldn't even be seen wah
so its probably same way for dilo v pachy
barren zephyr
dilo jump takes away alot of stam...
so it wouldnt be a problem...
so maybe a dilo can jump atleast 3 times or some shiz
misty island
Allo should jump too
south flower
Dilo deals good bleed and has superb night vision, I don't see much reason for giving it a jump.
Or that's just my opinion.
misty island
Have you seen how they are built in nature
shell willow
I can see dilo having a jump about as useless as galli's current one.
If any at all.
ocean vortex
I guess people don't like No Rules servers...
desert prairie
Theres like 4 populated no rules servers lol
shell willow
we like anarchy, but it's like alt turn. if the feature is a necessary part of the game, there's no sense in being able to toggle it
if both alt turn and affinity are supposed to help make the game better and more enjoyable for people, why should anyone have the ability to take that away
finite perch
couldnt have said it better myself
jovial blade
Last thing we need is dilo having a jump lol
night mountain
Because people enjoy different things and that’s alright.
night mountain
Let’s give cama and leaping attack
umbral tartan
@spice folio WALK AROUND THE ROCKS FAM
tepid light
@spiral ravine they do look different, a nest invite have the logo of a nest on it
spiral ravine
yeah but the difference is still hard to notice just by glancing
slim obsidian
And it's a gold border
spiral ravine
and tbh its not like its hard to make them look more different
slim obsidian
TBH it's not hard to actually look at what yer doing, Group invites are Silver, Nest invites are Gold... remember that and you'll never fudge it up again
barren zephyr
@spice folio why?
jovial blade
@misty island Depends what you have your volume on
Like around 60 volume its basiclly a ear rape
It happens when I forget I had my volume up the day before
jovial blade
I use head set aswell
I usually have my volume up high for other games
But the isle is usually a loud game so I lower it to like 32 when i play it
misty island
weird, never was a problem for me
jovial blade
Lol if I didn't keep forgetting how loud intro is it wouldn't be a problem to me either
But my dumbass keeps forgetting
😂
clever leaf
Dilo doesn't need a jump at all.
His intended playstyle doesn't warrant it. Itd just be redundant
Dilo can work perfectly fine without one. Chad enough to not need to rely on higher altitudes like Raptors
barren zephyr
And it still loses to a Utah
barren zephyr
Eh, depends on how good the players are, but generally if a Utah stays on a Dilos ass it can kill it and heal the bleeds
stoic crow
@flint rune
I don’t know, they most make a animation for each...