Much like you trying to get the 150lv Dino in ark
#general-feedback-discussion
misty island
crimson pelican
or make it harder to obtain
pale prairie
@barren zephyr rule 2. COUGH.
pliant ember
"The Isle: the game where you dinosaur can have a identity crises"
misty island
<@&401466542140817419>
crimson pelican
im just having fun watch lowe seal his own grave
indigo sun
Lowe, please stop. This is getting irritating and you are adding nothing to the conversation. Unless you have something constructive to add, kindly stop being a dick
misty island
This dude is annoying can we get him a strike
crimson pelican
thank you @topaz epoch
but geneteic mutation would add a great dynamic to gameplay
indigo sun
Sorry to have to bother you, Souretsu.
pliant ember
Humans are going to be a thing in the future so that suggestion would be more up to what the player wants they're character to be
So bringing that sort of stuff to animals sounds a little iffy
paper oriole
it would add flavour to nesting for sure, but let's keep the real world in the real world
and not in our dino game
paper oriole
vibrant colours, albinism, melanism, those would be cool to get with a low chance
topaz epoch
If you're going to have a conversation with people here then at least have something to contribute to said conversation. That's all I have to say on the matter.
crimson pelican
yes but for hypos not before i thought
dapper mirage
i mean
mutations are interesting and all
but like arkaria said earlier
its kind of a no brainer that anyone is allowed to play the game
crimson pelican
and would add a reason to pack to keep your dinos alive if you have invested time into it
indigo sun
I don't think Hypos are tied to genetic mutation from nesting specifically. They're more tied to affinity.
crimson pelican
and depending how dino mutates or happens would make the hypo inherit better attributes
interesting
oblique crown
Lol, heart your own stuff hmm.
barren zephyr
The thing about mutations is that 99% of the time in the wild when something mutates in a weird way it usually dies
Hypos iirc are the result of multiple human experiments
aka are genetically engineered to stay alive
misty island
How about this
crimson pelican
yes so add a variable that allows genetic cell death or ways to hold on not all mutations would be a good thing it adds a russian roulet scenario
misty island
We get like 0.00001%
indigo sun
well, theyre more engineered to live for a short while and kill everything
barren zephyr
would depend on the mutations
misty island
And we have dragons
barren zephyr
keep in mind every single thing that gets added to the game costs money to program/model/skin/etc
misty island
Arkaria lend us one of yours
dapper mirage
realisitically though, it would be an inconvenience for many players if they are nested or they spawn in and they have a mutation that, depending on what it is, might hinder chances of survival or change a gameplay style.
barren zephyr
would be nearly impossible to program 100's of variations into the game
dapper mirage
it would prompt people to drown themselves, or ask their parents to kill them after wasting 20 minutes to get an egg.
barren zephyr
^ that too
crimson pelican
not without costing to much im sure
dapper mirage
again, depending on how drastic the mutation
barren zephyr
hell, people already suicide just bc they get a bad spawn
paper oriole
i mean we curently already have that with genders
and might still even after nesting changes
dapper mirage
~~cant blame people for suiciding with a beach spawn to be fair--
oblique crown
Or if they get a male and not a female
paper oriole
when i was nesting recently one of my babies wanted me to kill them until they got female it happens quite a lot
paper oriole
i mean they also added more water close to most beaches so it's not as much of a hassle anymore
dapper mirage
same.
personally, i dont really accept nest invites too often simply because i dont trust people to not have terrible skins
but that's besides the point
mutations of the sort that are being discussed would pose a lot of gameplay problems, and overall just not be worth the development time if they only occur by a small chance.
misty island
Mmmm
It would if you have it developed separately
But
Since affinity is coming up
A buff using the affinity framework
And then custom colour
paper oriole
maybe dinos with crappy affnity would have a higher chance to spawn mutants like albino, melanistic, marbled etc
misty island
That’s you will ever need
dapper mirage
+also dont forget the possibility of people wanting said mutations, and respawning over and over and over to try and get them.
misty island
^
Always gonna happen
But you can always set it so
You can only get it from hatching
And in a way the parents controls it
And parents need time to make eggs
And it doesn’t benefit the parent why would he help you out with like 6hrs of sitting on a nest giving you random eggs
See
People wont commit to help people for that long
Not for such a distance and vague goal
With no possible benefit for themselves
Any counter suggestions?
Anyone ?
Pffffff I am all alone again
coarse shell
good message, bad suggestion
hallow vigil
@crimson pelican you're getting a warning too. You were furthering a flame war too, when you could have just blocked him
note: a warning isnt a strike, just pls dont do this again
waxen elk
Haha yes
bring politics into everything
No but seriously what's the point of that suggestion?
Like i get it, accept diversity but dude it's a game about dinosaurs...
hallow vigil
yeah i think that would just distract from the theme of survival horror
and no one wants to try to survive with bright colors either
torpid wedge
^^^ this
indigo sun
only bright colors I want are not baby shit greens
pliant ember
Genetic modifications on skin could work tbh
But not turning someone into a bright colored ambush predator
Maybe melanistic or something like that would be cool
waxen elk
tbh we need a better color pallete
torpid wedge
^^^ this too
torpid wedge
i was just complaining about not wanting to be gray, brown, or green
torpid wedge
and my friend goes
waxen elk
Cerato's pattern
torpid wedge
..... those are all we have
waxen elk
is too fucking dark
pliant ember
But dark colors make more sense
A predator or juvi with bright colors wouldn't work at all
Kind of...
waxen elk
Cerato doesn't have camouflage
Yes, being dark colored make sense
But just greys, browns and ugly greens are boring
pliant ember
I mean
A lot of the dinosaurs have a good variety of bright colors
coarse shell
why is the first screenshot so saturated
torpid wedge
a good variety?
pliant ember
I couldn't find the best examples but they are there
Saying that there's only greys, blacks and whites doesn't really make sense
Because that's not the case
viral creek
Not sure why you guys are complaining about coloring
It is confirmed we will get more colors in the future. So hold your horses, at least we have customization at all.
spiral pond
Can someone explain to me why so many goddamn people want giga speed buff ?
It’s so dumb
You can’t make it super fast with it’s ambush
I mean we can go back to times when Rex was slow as shit and giga fast
Yea why not
lets invalidate all mid tiers except Maia
desert prairie
They are to dumb to understand how to actually ambush a player
barren zephyr
Probably cause Giga is the slowest carnivore on Survival on terms of Sprint, Ambush. With only saving grace having a good trot and powerful alt turn which is so fast it could be considered a bug. People wouldn't complain about Gigas if Rex vs Giga wasn't so one sided and that bleeding out an opponent doesn't work if you're slow at a sprint, when rex only needs one bite mostly to give it bonebreak and pretty much seal the coffin. You have an apex with stamina regen which honestly doesn't need it since he has such a fast trot, giving it slightly more sprint but keeping it slightly lower than a Rex and no stamina regen so Rex fanboys can stop bitching. People fail to realize that the cap on speed is large and honestly only times when Giga even catches a midtier opponent is by ambushing it when their ambush isn't ready or is aware he is being ambushed.
viral creek
Because apparently. If something is faster than you, it is 100% impossible for them to get away. Even though there are several other contributing factors that determine whether you can escape or not.
God forbid one of the most overpowered animals in the game have a single poor machup.
barren zephyr
You refering the rex or giga?
barren zephyr
And what where does this put the rex into?
viral creek
Giga is 100% uncontested by any animals that are smaller than him, no matter the skill. While rex can be killed by packs of mid teirs such as allosaurus and dilophosaurus. If they know what they're doing.
viral creek
It's a bug, sure.
Dosen't mean it dosen't have any impact on how absolutely powerful giga is.
It exists and is having a huge effect on how he plays, and that's what matters.
barren zephyr
In terms of trike vs giga they have a fair chance. While a rex absolutely demolishes a trike without it giving a fighting a chance
viral creek
I actually disagree with that
viral creek
I have killed several rexes as a trike
barren zephyr
If giga knows what he is doing he can bleed out a trike
viral creek
A giga can just bite me a few times, tank the hits and bleed me out
barren zephyr
while rex he can force a trade with bonebreak
with hit and running
doesn't even need to turn fight
viral creek
Also
Unlike giga
Rex has shit teir stamina, horrible ambush duration (acceleration makes it even worse), poor turn radius and alt turn speed, and can only regain stamina while resting.
Giga has better stamina, decebt amnush and ambush speed, godly alt turn, and can regain stam on the move
barren zephyr
Rex hardly ever runs out of stamina if Rex vs Giga have to fight each other
if they both are aware and are fighting fair and square
viral creek
You're acting like giga is forced to fight rex.
barren zephyr
He isn't
viral creek
If giga sees rex first, he can absolutely get away.
viral creek
Giga should never fight a rex head on.
But if you get the jump on him, and get a few bites before he bites you, you can outdamage rex and win
viral creek
Yes.
viral creek
Exactly
So if he knows you're there. Don't fight him. The game isn't forcing you to.
coarse shell
most rex players ive seen are braindead anyway
barren zephyr
yeah pretty much
viral creek
Giga dosen't need a speed buff, just a common sense buff.
barren zephyr
Id still love to see them both more even in a fair fight. But rex still being slightly on edge
viral creek
That's absolutely possible. Ambush. Or have a friend.
barren zephyr
2v1 isn't considered even
viral creek
Then ambush
barren zephyr
nor ambush.
You can kill anyone if he isn't aware of your presence
and this is universal
viral creek
Ehhhhhh
Not really
But the point is. Giga is in a decent spot. His existence shouldn't be justified by his ability to win a full on fight with a rex.
barren zephyr
No he isn't suppose to be 50/50 against a rex fight but the oods should be more 60/40 favoring the Rex. Just a Giga simply cannot bleed out a Rex if they are both aware each other and Rex only needs a single bite to bonebreak
desert prairie
Well heres the thing
If a rex gets the bullshit bone break on a giga
Its game over, nothing the giga can do.
So its basically a matter of who finds who first.
barren zephyr
Yup
viral creek
Which is perfectly fair
barren zephyr
But it all depends how people enjoy their games
viral creek
(Ngl rng bonebreak sucks though)
desert prairie
Yeah but the devs dont seem to care
viral creek
Pretty sure bonebreak is being reworked post recode
barren zephyr
either intense fair 1v1 duels or just the I get behind you, you die. It's a survival game. Real life isn't fair deal.
viral creek
There's a reason they removed it from almost every animal
viral creek
Not sure exactly how. But it's being reworked
barren zephyr
since they are tanky
take lot of bites
before dying
unlike midtiers
and there is a huge risk
to lose
it's why I love it
But when you know, raise a dino 7 hours and all Rex needs is to be relatively close and ambush and you cannot outrun or consider it a fight anymore if a Rex knows you're there before you.
It's why it can be frustrating
but that doesn't compare
the frustration of trike players
viral creek
But let's be realistic here
At least give the rex some credit for sneaking up on you as that giant, loud animal.
barren zephyr
Biggest tip you can give is to avoid treelines
viral creek
Sneaking up and ambushing players isn't luck based. It's based on both the skill of the predator, and how aware the prey is.
barren zephyr
It isn't really always that perfect. You still always have the randomness of players logging in and if someone is abusing gamma or not.
viral creek
Rex for example is either a hit or miss. If you suck at ambushing, then you shouldn't be playing rex.
desert prairie
tbh idk why they changed the night time of V3
viral creek
I despise people that gamma exploit
barren zephyr
V3 honestly
needs some places with plains around middle point of some popular spots
desert prairie
yeeeeeees
barren zephyr
Like north river, great falls and north river
I mean
Twins
I said north river twice lmao
Aviary is good but my opinion they dont have enough bushes there. For herbies to care.
desert prairie
They need to evenly spread the bushes out
desert prairie
only reason herbi's sit at hidden pond all day is because there is tons of pushes and perfect sight line
barren zephyr
by consuming bushes all the time
My route was
Twins> North River > Hot Springs > Titan > Murky Pond > Trike Kill > Docks > Aviary > Great falls > The wash > Gulf pond > Cargo pond > Twins
I only started to starve when I moved from Docks > Aviary > Great Falls. I was at 10% hunger as Pue when i finally reached to greatfalls and filled myself to 100% on food bushes
From Docks to Aviary there was only 1-2 food bushes between. There are some big plains area there but no bushes at all.
At Aviary there are very few bushes. About ten I could find max. But compared to trike hill and cargo pond there are 40+ bushes there.
Developers definetely could add more food bush spawns there.
Wait are you saying there are lot of bushes at lonely pond near the aviary?
Cause I could barely find any
Maybe cause a herd was already been there before
barren zephyr
Yes it's called trike hill
desert prairie
mhm
barren zephyr
the hill near the melt water
desert prairie
yes
barren zephyr
it got the name cause like 10+ adult trikes are there
usually
but yeah there are ton of bushes there
desert prairie
Yeah tons of food to feed them
barren zephyr
It's funny cause Murky pond and muddy pond area
there are barely any bushes there
compared
and when you go to melt water
suddenly huge amount of bushes
There used to be a big plains between murky pond and the dam area on Titan
but the devs added more trees there
it could be the perfect open field with bushes
and have some small pond there
could be like a savanna
desert prairie
That would be dope
barren zephyr
it's also a popular traffic area
since people go from Murky pond to titan via that route and use the dam as a bridge
or just go to hot springs
Probably could suggest it for the devs
Since I think it's a very good location
viral creek
Can't wait for the recode to be over, when some of these changes may be a real possiblity
dry cradle
supposedly the way growth works will also be a little different
I'm thinking along the lines of no longer needing to hit the button
but i could be wrong
spiral pond
Or the stats being without jumps
So you don’t suddenly gain a ton in a tick
And like 100 N
Also it will probably more smooth
With speed too
jovial moss
@toxic harness I agree on deinocheirus, it's a unique dinosaur that looks really nice
still temple
Yuty would be naked tho IF he were to be put in TI 
blazing charm
@toxic harness You need to offer some reasoning behind those creatures, why would it be worth adding them?
brisk mesa
Yutyrannus would be a nice Allo skin...
Similar size, similar build, just has feathers 
misty island
Isn’t yutyrannus more of a 1.0sub Rex ?
brisk mesa
Nah, their anatomy isn't anything alike later Tyrannosaurs...
blazing charm
Last I checked Yut's tiny.
brisk mesa
Guanlong or Dilong
blazing charm
I forget the name.
brisk mesa
Smoll featherboi ancestors to tyrannosaurids
brisk mesa
No got a better idea
brisk mesa
Thoughts on turning Archipelago into a nice Savannah biome?
misty island
I think it’s reserved for human stuff
Or semi aquatic dinos
Or it’s the supposedly hypo pen
barren zephyr
Sounds good
misty island
Maybe not the archipelago
Extend the south rock wall
And make a piece of land south of the aviary
And start form lone pond
barren zephyr
Problem is
misty island
It would be plain
misty island
O u have no idea how many ppl grow there rn
barren zephyr
utahs camp at the docks
misty island
South of gem
barren zephyr
yeah I know those
misty island
So many apex grow there
misty island
I am saying take the area resembling a box between those
And turn it into a huge plain
Give carno some place to stretch it’s legs lmfao
brisk mesa
I mean V3 has plenty of good Carno habitat
Considering it has one of the best fall tolerances in the game, it calls every mountain home lel
misty island
Ok was fall tolerance meant for carno like that ???
misty island
Or was it because there’s no suitable area for it to run so they had to give it high fall tolerances
brisk mesa
Bingo
Why add a new biome to all the 'plains' dinos, when you can just give 'em good fall tolerance
It's lazy but works lol
brisk mesa
Or leave it and allow them to live in plains and mountains
And just make plains
As I said it's the lazy solution
Not a good one
brisk mesa
^^^
sage helm
Idk why people would dislike that.... Herbivores end up grouping either way
undone pike
Ya I'm a bit surprised people would be against it at all. Allowing a herd to talk to all of its members seems pretty straight forward. Only reason I could see someone being against it is if they're a carni and would benefit from a lack of communication.
quick orbit
CRYnivores
mental sleet
it... makes no sense ?
undone pike
@mental sleet can you explain?
mental sleet
triceratops do not understand gallimimus
just the same way utahraptors don't understand tyrannosaurus
undone pike
Fair enough. I'm in favor of the feature but I can understand that reasoning.
mental sleet
Besides
if you allowed it to happen to herbivores
carnivores have the same right to ask for it.
undone pike
I made it specific to herbis simply because for most herbs their protection is reliant on a herd. For carnis they seem to have a lot of advantages and for my own preference the servers I play on don't allow mix packing.
mental sleet
Indeed, herbivores do rely on herds, but you don't need chat to display your intentions as long as they have a shred of braincells.
Calls are a thing, inefficient and loud, yes, but they serve their purpose.
As long as someone knows what each animal's call is, which isn't that hard, that's all you need.
undone pike
In my experience there are just too many instances where different species need to give more specific messages. Things like "where should we go?", "can you escort me to the water?", "There's a Rex to your right", etc. Also the global chat can move so quickly that it's very easy to miss a herd member's message. Now if you want to say different species couldn't communicate then that's fine, but I think that's the only reasoning I'd agree with. Overall I think it could be a useful feature that maybe could just be an option. Each server could choose to enable or disable it.
wintry cipher
Herbivores used to be able to talk to one another. It got abused excactly like moving scent to better allow mega-herds to hunt down and kill other players. So it was removed.
echo bridge
The whole idea of the 4 roar is to warn herbivores of an approaching danger, no matter the species. Sure making noise puts you at a disadvantage to people in a vc and sometimes people bait people to kill them with roars, but those notions don't matter if death is staring at your herd, licking its lips. A 4 roar gets that messags clean across
undone pike
What if Local was allowed to speak to other herbs? Maybe a decent balance?
jolly willow
I dont fuckin know what stuck out tongue means I thought that was a good thing
brisk mesa
we can dream ponk
jolly willow
Doubt thoooo
Big doubts
They likely already have some other boring environment/area planned for it
Considering its still under konstruction
brisk mesa
inb4 more pine trees
toxic harness
@brisk mesa I agree with the allo skin idea
frosty tiger
Would be pretty neat to have a big open svannah with a large lake or something in it. Would be a paradise for fast running critters
hallow vigil
didnt dondi say savannas wouldnt work cuz of render distance or something
was on a recent-ish stream
i might be wrong
frosty tiger
Aww well, that is unfortunate
hallow vigil
it makes sense tho
small things cant hide in grass now cuz of render
so a savanna would have the same problem if tall grass was a thing
frosty tiger
Maybe someday in the future 😄
hallow vigil
hopefully
south flower
I personally think it would just be better to let herbivores group in general. You would still be able to group with one-species herds if you preferred or you can have multiple species in one herd. Adding a completely new chat in game would probably get a bit too much and unnecessary.
native nebula
@paper oriole we're aware of the problems with the adult Galli's jump. it unfortunately auto-inherited changes to the hatchling's jump height in the last update. it's on our fix list.
jovial blade
Oh hi dev
edgy furnace
@tranquil summit sandbox dinos arent priority so
you should repost when theyre working on sandbox dinos later on
if they dont do that by then
teal grotto
@hasty kernel if you sprint into the water it determines your momentum swim speed.. Gigas swim slow lol makes no sense to make them swim slower
hasty kernel
Ah, ok. I was just angry cuz I got outswam as a sucho. Thanks for telling me the reason.
misty island
@hasty kernel me and some other dudes had a similar conversation about it. Our conclusion was that it’s somewhat realistic cus, heavier object has higher momentum—> ambush speed giga heaviest&faster than sucho even when ambushing
Same goes for Rex vs most herbis just not as obvious as giga vs sucho
teal grotto
Also if your bone broken your best chance to escape a Rex is to swim away
Im not kidding
If you have a broken leg you can escape by swimming
The Rex won't give chase as he won't risk losing his stanima just go back and forth and hes Basicly screwed
Broken leg don't effect your swim speed
misty island
^
teal grotto
So if your fighting a Rex near the water and he breaks your leg jump into the water if you have stanima your broken leg will heal faster then he can chase you..
versed blaze
Right, let me just say this: You're treading dangerously close to the water exploit rule by hiding in it to heal, etc. I suggest you don't do this, lest you get caught...........
teal grotto
Lol if I have the chance to heal and escape my hunter I will use it to get away I will use it.. I know how the swim mechanics work I got away 5 rexes who broke my leg.. I dash into the water then get onto the land on the other side then sit down to regain stanima Rex gets close to me by swimming I get back in the water and go on the other side.. Its not exploiting if your trying to get away.. Id rather escape to heal over dying and having to throw my keyboard out the window and start again 6 hour grind again..
hallow vigil
um
if a mod tells you that it crosses the line of the server rules
dont do it
end of story
cyan flame
But there's no "healing" in the way that it will kill you, so.. :p
Not sure on it Block, it seems like a questionable interpretation of the rule to me ^^
hallow vigil
(to my understanding) the rule is like this: you can use the water if you havent sustained damage that would get you killed otherwise
hallow vigil
a broken leg next to a rex definitely qualifies as damage that would lead to certain death
cyan flame
If he's already on you, I doubt you'd get into the water in the first place.. :p
hallow vigil
thats true
still temple
maybe in the future they'll make it so you cant swim with a broken leg
hallow vigil
probably
teal grotto
Then they will be forced to nerf Rex leg break.
versed blaze
In the future, you will be able to eat bodies in the water
hallow vigil
i would advise against it rn tho, server admins might see it the way me and lethal do
versed blaze
Then this will be a moot point
cyan flame
That too, but then you'd have to challenge the deino for the food :p
versed blaze
Now you're getting the idea....for now, best to follow what was posted here, lest you find a boot kicking you out of more than the water.
teal grotto
If I know ill survive ill swim to the other side to heal my broken leg rinse and repeat then sprint away from my hunter but if I know im dead ill face tank it.
But im not going to give a Rex a kill if I can escape him and use his weakness against him.
cyan flame
If the rex somehow catches you, bites you once, and you manage to make it back to the water, then I would wonder what the rex was doing.. :p
Unless it possibly was a fresh adult with a somewhat lucky bonebreak possibly..
teal grotto
Or you made him waste his sprint or hes just bad at playing rex
cyan flame
If you're bonebroken, you're going nowhere fast.. :p
He won't need sprint to catch you then ^^
teal grotto
Which is why I stick to a lake with islands I can reach
Example twin lakes lake 2
Point of the game is to survive im just surviving a Rex encounter
hallow vigil
🤷
a broken leg is kinda weird territory cuz on one hand you can expect to die if you have a broken leg next to a rex
but on the other hand a broken leg isnt gonna kill you in the water
not like bleed
cyan flame
I'm a bit more concerned with the swimming time being long enough for sucho to heal a leg while doing so, and not needing to make landfall at least once for a bit.. :p
hallow vigil
i think what he meant was that he'd swim to safer land to rest and heal, away from the rex
misty island
He’s just talking in situation where Rex are not determined enough
Cus if everything did went down as he described
He would get a piece of land safety and have enough time to log off
But if a Rex is determined enough the Rex will chase across the water
versed blaze
That's fine. Continuously swimming or hiding to heal is not.
hallow vigil
hiding in water is bad (unless ur actually swimming)
misty island
Is a clear offence
cyan flame
And eventually he'd run out of stamina
So that wouldn't work, he'd have to stay on land then or risk drowning
But I do think going back and forth is fine, since it's viable to drain your opponent of stamina, as long as it's an active chase as it were?
hallow vigil
yeah
misty island
I don’t agree
hallow vigil
its fine to escape with water if ur not gonna die in it
cyan flame
If you can't "go back after him" then he's out of stamina, you are not, but if he keeps swimming while drowning/or resting in the water, so you can't kill him, then there's an issue
misty island
Cus he can’t eat you after
And you would be using that as a fact to evade him
So it’s actually not fair
cyan flame
Well no, but if he is right behind you when you go up on land, then he can kill you there?
versed blaze
After water eating is a thing, this will all go away.
cyan flame
And then you'll have to answer to the big croc ^^
misty island
Lmfao
cyan flame
I somehow doubt killing things in water will be a good idea, seems like you'd only feed your enemy ^^
cyan flame
And then it'll get big and eat you when you come for a drink :p
misty island
That’s what they illustrated when they implemented suchos 😒
cyan flame
But hm, so, say you're a sucho swimming close to the shoreline Fragon, and you see a rex there, you swim outwards, and the rex comes in after you, are you not allowed to continue swimming down the river, draining the rex stamina, even if it does catch up to you cause of swim speed/ambush(?), you still got the stamina advantage, but not allowed to use it then?
Give sucho back the buoyancy thing and it'll be great fun, hell, lower it a bit more even, and we'll actually get some water ambushes most likely
cyan flame
No worries :p
hallow vigil
we might be going too far
#general-feedback-discussion isnt rly the place for this
i dont see any suggestion refering to water rules
so idk why we're talking about it here
cyan flame
So noted, already dm:ed Frag about it :) Apologies, it's just too easy to keep talking where you're at :p
hallow vigil
np i talked about it too lol
teal grotto
@misty island @cyan flame lol which is why you need to know how swimming works if you can escape the Rex then you Basicly win.
You know when you have a hurt foot swimming in water makes the pain go away
cyan flame
I don't think that's a mechanic in the game though..
teal grotto
Well I think it should be lol
brisk mesa
Wow, kinda shocked to see how many people wanna see Archipelago turned into a Savannah 👀
Shame that grass doesn't render from afar atm
IK all that tall grass on Region 2 used to render from afar, allowing say a Velo to hide in it, or things to lurk around in the swamps.
I wonder if the simplest solution would be covering everything in the tall grass, thus breaking line of sight for things? If you'd see something it would only be things taller than the grass, so say a Shant, Spino or Camara
So long as the terrain is kept quite flat, it would be a way to dance around the rendering
hasty kernel
Perfect terrain for baby kicking.
hasty parcel
@sonic socket already planned
@teal grotto I feel like that would more so belong in #401465476661641217
teal grotto
Rex bone break is a bug needs fixing yes! Happy you agree :p
hasty parcel
pulsar lake
Rex bone break isn't a bug
But I think it shouldn't lowered to 40%, more in 55% because if you get bited by a rex as allo, it's normal to limp Imao
After not for giga
Giga is same size so he need to grab the legs for break it
After for the trike I think it's good
Because he is a lot tinner
spiral pond
giga needs some opponent
rex is the only thing that can go after it
if you dont count other gigas
pulsar lake
Allo pack can
spiral pond
haha no
pulsar lake
If no body do alt turn
hasty parcel
no, it doesn't fully 1-oneshot
spiral pond
bleed
pulsar lake
Later alt turn will be change or delated for another thing
I want to say
Giga is more killable than before
spiral pond
nah
pulsar lake
Because his running turn as been nerfed
hasty parcel
Not Sucho
spiral pond
sucho is too slow
hasty parcel
But it doesn't get one-shot
pulsar lake
After giga is an hunter of mid tiers
Rex is an hunter of apex
So
It's normal than rex counter giga
And giga hunt easily all mid tier
But I think rex should have a little nerf of speed like 32 KmpH
And a nerf of bone break to 55% or 60%
And a little stam buff of 5 second
5 more second is big
After yes rex can have a really good ambush
umbral prairie
bb will hopefully get a rework anyways, there it is not a chance to break the bone completely with 1 bite but instead multiple 'stages' of bb, for example you have a fractured bone at first that barely affects your mobility, after more hits the bone is broken, slowing you down and eventually the bone is shattered and you can barely move at all. (That is at least my idea of a bb rework) Of course the bone will break faster the smaller the prey of the rex is, so an allo will go to broken bone immediately and a giga will only have fractured bone
also rex speed could maybe be lowered to 31 so it is not slower than giga but also needs very long to catch up
pulsar lake
With the rex bite force, it should take 3 bite or 4 to break legs to a giga. For a trike it should be shorter I think because it's more easy to catch his legs.
But with combat rework, it will be better
And BB rework
And anky will probably insta bone break
umbral prairie
alos depends on the creature, anky should be able to break a rex leg with one good hit, but not for bigger things like hyper apexes or sauropods
pulsar lake
Yes
Or
No
Because when you see the tail of anky
This don't surprise me than he could break a cama legs. But not for brachio, hyper and magna
umbral prairie
yeah cama at current size might get bb from anky aswell
pulsar lake
But some dinosaur should have bone break
I think pachy, rex, anky, maïa/para (but a little), giga (when it's tinner like a maïa), rew (because he can't hunt without) and probably allo.
But this remain of a single abilitys, like a right clic for Giga and Allo, a sort of special attack.
With a grab
Or the "Ax bite" for allo.
And you should be slower when you are low life I think
You are dying so why you are like full health
umbral prairie
I think it would be cool to have multiple things that could break. First of course the leg, but also breaking ribs (which would result in maybe less bite damage and getting more damage from following hits) and breaking tail bones (which would result in lower tail swipe damage for things like cama/anky and maybe other things that will get a tail swipe attack) would be cool
I could see a para running against a utah, throwing the utah to the ground could break a utahs rib
pulsar lake
Yes I was thinking about thas type of Bone break
umbral prairie
both body dragging and body carrying are planned
dreamy wharf
^
dreamy wharf
Oh I have no idea about fighting animations, but the closest thing that’s been mentioned was grappling.
sonic socket
What kind of grappling ?
umbral prairie
utah pounce and allo grapple with its arms are all we know of right now
but it would be cool if every carnivore could grab things with it's mouth and hold on to it imo
dreamy wharf
Right now I can’t directly quote the clip as I’m in school but I believe this is the correct one. Crucify me if it isn’t.
No worries.
umbral prairie
it explains that you can make a dinosaur 'try' to attack a certain body part, so you can make multiple areas on a dinosaur, for example the neck, rib cage, hips and tail, and the attacking dinosaur will move it's head to bite the closest one of those areas so it looks like the dino is actually trying to bite certain areas of it's prey. (sorry for how bad I can explain xD)
would be cool if this hit target stuff would be combined with grabbing and holding on to things, and the closer you are while attacking a specific body part the higher the chances are for a good grip (there would need to be luck and skill involved in grabbing and holding on so a rex cannot always grab a eck and crush it, a good grip on a neck should not be easy to get)
sonic socket
first part is from the video and second part is from u ?
pulsar lake
@sonic socket I think we wanted to do same type of suggestion lol
sonic socket
@pulsar lake Right, i suggested it earlier so i putted as reminder ^^
south flower
I would like it if when a dinosaur is attacked, only the areas of the body that are inflicted will show scarring instead of having scars on the tip of your nose when you were bitten in the leg.
I know it's all a work in progress, though.
umbral prairie
will most likely be implemented with locational damage
south flower
Oh is that planned amongst the other things? That would be cool!
umbral prairie
haven't heard the devs talk about it, but I'm sure they are aware that it is dumb to have scarring everywhere and it only seems logical to implement it once they implemented things to detect where you have been bitten
south flower
Same, and along with collision. It gets boring just running through your target when you're biting them.
umbral prairie
that would be very cool but probably also hard to implement since you need to make multiple animations for where you bite something, it would need to be balanced so a rex cannot always grab necks and crush them all the time (assuming grabbing will include biting down for a longer time, so the longer a dino holds and bites down the more damage it does), and the hardest thing will probably the momentum, since for example a rex ambushing a para from the side and biting it's neck would definitely throw the para to the ground. SO the speed and weight of both dinosaurs would play a role in grabbing aswell as the angle in which the head of the attacker is in relation to whatever it is grabbing. I think it would be nice if you could slip off of what you're grabbing, and that slipping chance could be higher the smaller the angle of your head is to the body of your prey (same example, a rex would be able to hold on to a para neck way better if it attacks from the side, so with a 90 degree angle, than from behind with maybe a 5-15 degree angle)
south flower
And stamina could also play a part. The longer it takes for you to hold your prey (by hands/arms like an allo/utah or with the jaws like a rex) the more stamina drain for both the hunter and the prey. If I remember right, there was an animation of a shant trying to buck off utahs, so I assume with the introduction of being able to hold onto prey, the prey will also have the chance to shake off their attacker.
umbral prairie
yeah that would be nice aswell
south flower
Though, like you said, the weight and momentum can also limit the prey's chances of being able to shake off the attacker.
umbral prairie
something interesting for bleeders could be that they have a worse grip than other dinosaurs since their teeth are very sharp and slice through the meat they're trying to grab and that the prey has an easier time escaping the jaws, but the prey thrashing around trying to escape could inflict more bleed to it doing so
and allo could have the gimmick that it has both this method of inflicting bleed and having a good grip because of it's claws
south flower
I can see that. I also wonder if certain parts of the body would bleed more than others? Such as, you bite a shant on the leg and give it decent bleed, but bite it around the head and the bleed increases?
umbral prairie
that would probably vary depending on the species, things like brachi could bleed more on the sides of their body since that is probably where gigas will try to attack it, trike or diablo would get close to no damage / bleed on it's face at all and most theropods will maybe bleed more at their torso and neck
and most things would get less bleed and damage inflicted at the tail or back so ass riding is less efficient
south flower
Yeah, that's true.
south flower
@radiant pasture I think some are different from one another, I know some herbivores have different footprints and some carnivore footprints differ in size, but a lot of herbivores' footprints will look quite similar anyway, as any predators since they have similar foot and toe shapes. Maybe a different color for herbivores and carnivores would be nice.
radiant pasture
Yeah, I jus tthink it could be clearer
Sometimes, the footprints don't even have foot shapes, they're obscured by the smoke clouds of scent, so its hard to tell how big they are...
south flower
I can’t say I’ve had the problem of the smoke blocking the shape of the print, they look fine to me.
sage helm
Usually when that happens the footprints are too small to tell in the first place
hallow vigil
@brisk mesa i dont think the stego injection was meant as a means of testing their viability in Survival. They were injected as males only to trusted people simply as a gift. This has happened before with the same dev with Theris, all male. It's just a gift to a trusted player and nothing more. If the dev that injected them wanted to do a real test, they would have allowed females to live, like they did with every serious injection in the past (maia, diablo, dryo, on old v3)
pulsar lake
I think spoon should be quadrupedal in crouch yes.
It can be cool.
feral wedge
Actually the stegos had a breeding population on two occasions that both did rather well, barring various instances of absurd drama and nefarious schemes. Not sure about recently, but. Theris had a breeder but were instructed not to. Ended up being troublesome, so they were eradicated by myself. They're not given to specific people all of the time, and even if they are, a lot of the time those people often try to nest as many people as they can. Injections yield plenty good information as they've always been done. Like when Hypno nested in some random people as Suchos and they decided to make a ruckus immediately, so me and my group wiped them out within 5 minutes of them coming onto the server. It's just chance. It's not just briefly spicing things up. That kind of overcomplication is unnecessary @brisk mesa. I've spent hours upon hours watching and playing with these groups and observing them, as well, so I'm not having any bias in any above statements that could be pertaining to anyone I know.
toxic vortex
Why can’t diol eat small gore Yet Utah can !!
paper oriole
lazy ass growers who sit idle to get to adult should get asthma, stam/speed problems from how fat and atrophied their bodies are from slouching in a bush half their life
that shit'd reduce the apex pop lol
inner valley
tbh it'd be super cool if your dino looked different based on how much food you eat and how much you move around, it would add a bunch of diversity just from that, plus, you'd be able to tell who's lazy and who actively protects/hunts for their pack, for instance, with utahs
jovial blade
Lol utahs would all be obese if that was the case
sage helm
^
brisk mesa
@feral wedge Yeah I've seen the difference back in those injections; I remember back in December the Spino players all decided to group together and be responsible, killing off any females of their own accord and anyone who went out of their way to be an asshat was killed off, an example of players self regulating a population. Compare that to the Shants and Stegos who ran amok... or the Acro's on Thenyaw who shifted the entire ecosystem around.
However there's a difference. While yes those injections yielded some information, it all wasn't really a proper sample size. Condensing the playables to specific players and a specific starting region often yields less than ideal results if your aim is to see the server as a whole.
While my methodology is more than has been done in the past it would also yield the most tangible results rather than nesting in whoever makes the most noise or clicks F1 the fastest.
@hallow vigil Yeah, this current time clearly isn't 'actual' injections, I guess I just used current events to justify posting something pertaining to injections as a whole.
edgy furnace
@spiral ravine how is it not realistic? Only thing it needs to make it realistic is an animation
Cause every animal I’ve ever seen can turn around when standing still lmao
south flower
Maybe they were saying it from the perspective of if it doesn’t get an animation and continues the little ballerina twirl.
But yeah having an animation for the alt turn would be very nice
indigo sun
Theyre going to add animations, though. Its been said for a while I think. A lot of people just don't like the idea of their enemies being able to turn around in one place
versed blaze
Alt turn is staying, albeit with new animations
edgy furnace
Yeah
feral wedge
There were like 400 or so accounts on Thenyaw with injection critters when the code was made to wipe them out. There’s a difference between sample size and irresponsible randoms trying to create a monopoly out of a creature instead of giving it a proper test.
That’s why shants exploded too. Not much could fight them. They got too populous and prevented the ecosystem from functioning correctly.
spiral pond
yes 5 apexes are totally perfect, for killing everything in their path with no penalties
brittle ivy
@heavy citrus You may discuss suggested topics in this channel, not #general-feedback (which is only for leaving suggestions to be read by the dev team).
heavy citrus
Sorry apologies @brittle ivy
Now i know
@inner kindle so on that suggestion you made. Official server allow 4-5 trexes in 1 group so if u see any more call a mod and let them know. 4-5 rexes is also just perfect seeing they can be killed by many other dinos both carnivores and herbivores
umbral prairie
why do you think a lower apex limit is bad? they can destroy everything and raise new apexes completely without any danger to the young, a lower apex limit would also encourage more apex vs apex fights resulting in less apexes overall
4-5 is way too strong imo, even 3 are pretty strong
heavy citrus
Because i have seen a pack of 8 trexes getting destroyed by 2 trikes
spiral ravine
@edgy furnace not that smooth and not all at the same rate
umbral prairie
then these rexes were absolute dogshit
heavy citrus
It depends on your skill to fight them and survive
umbral prairie
yes, you need some skill to survive, but there is nothing skill related with fighting 5 rexes
heavy citrus
Also a rex stamina is his weakness dont get in 50m of him and you’re fine. If he uses his stamina then thats it. He needs to rest and u can still run away
spiral ravine
@edgy furnace do you expect a rex to turn? obviously. But do you expect a rex to turn at the same speed as a Utah? I don't think so.
umbral prairie
it is not about me complaining about dying to them, it is that there should not be almost invulnerable groups running around
heavy citrus
I got hunted by 2 rexes yesterday and they came full charge at me fom both sides. I used my run a little after they did so they would run out first wich ended in me surviving
I know and that’s what im trying to explain they aren’t invulnerable
umbral prairie
again, the problem is not people not getting away from rex groups, it is just the massive overpopulation of apexes and that nothing can kill them except other apex packs
heavy citrus
@umbral prairie i understand that. but if u see that the problem is the overpopulation then it has nothing to do with specific Trexes being together in a group of 4 but rather to population on the map VS map size wich even then the map is huge
@versed blaze now that u said that id rather not 😂
umbral prairie
it does have to do with the pack size though, if the pack size is smaller then 1. More apex vs Apex fights and 2. They cannot raise more apexes as easily as they can now
of course it is not the only reason
but it is part of the problem
versed blaze
Raising apexes isn't as easy as you think it is
umbral prairie
I have done it many times, it is
unless the AI fucks you
but that doesn't happen often
heavy citrus
ok example: me and a friend are both rexes fully adult that we made yesterday. we can easaly make a nest just the 2 of us (considering they will ad the male/female breeding) as any other player can. but if we then have babys they will just have to walk away?
umbral prairie
juvies can stay, like they can now
heavy citrus
it took us 3 days to get to adults because of random deaths or we got killed wich is just the way of survival games
umbral prairie
it would also be ok to me if 3 adults were in a pack (I'd prefer 2, but 3 is ok), if you breed the pack can spit into 2 packs of 2 if the nested one reaches sub/adult
heavy citrus
so friends playing together just have to talk to eachother but not play together? wich after all gaming is to have fun not be life sim #2
1 thing i will also say is go play every dino u can. i have been on official servers and unofficial deathmatch servers where there where events from all dinos 1v1 to 5v5 all random picked in the arena and i can tell u i have seen apexes fall by small herbivores (players who have alot of hours in this game too not just new players like myself) and bigger herbivores. and i have also seen apex vs apex both survive or both die. everything can kill everything wich i find beautifull in this game. its verry balanced like it should be. the hitbox ofc is a bit of a problem sometimes that desides the fate of others but im sure over time that will become better too
umbral prairie
are you playing on no alt turn? Because with alt turn not everything can kill anything (which is good, nobody wants utahs soloing apexes)unless the person getting attacked literally does nothing
versed blaze
Eh, so many suggestions based on not using a core game mechanic
heavy citrus
wich mechanic?
versed blaze
ALt turn
heavy citrus
the alt turn?
versed blaze
Yes, it's animation is crap right now but soon it will be forced with a good anim
No Alt Turn servers won't exist
And the balance will always be geared towards the use of alt turn
umbral prairie
so many suggestions saying alt turn is unrealistic (ofc animation and turn speed on some dinos are not realistic, but the mechanic itself is not)
heavy citrus
yeah we use it so much on official tho 😄 tbh it would be cooler if it was a sort of side/back step but i love it. its the only thing that makes a rex turn or any other creature. i mean IRL its not going to say ''hold on buddy let me do a circle''
versed blaze
#ballerinarex lol
heavy citrus
^ weekend event idea 😄
umbral prairie
side/ back steps would be cool, but that wouldn't counter ass riding since the ass rider can also just walk sideways?
versed blaze
With locational damage, assriding will be ineffective
vagrant crest
That would depend on the distance they travel per step, no?
versed blaze
and that issue will solve itsel
heavy citrus
i dont realy follow on how assriding will be stopped with locational damage?
vagrant crest
Side stepping would be cool, but seems like more work to accomplish what alt turning already does
heavy citrus
oh i see. gotcha
versed blaze
So it's 50 hits for the tail vs 5 for body, for example
When locational comes around. Just an example............
heavy citrus
yeah i understand completly.
umbral prairie
bleeders should still apply ok amounts of bleed on the tail imo, but maybe it cannot go to max bleed when only biting 1 area
heavy citrus
also @umbral prairie after thinking even more then i should as a random player 😂 having 3 adult rexes max might be a good idea but then it can also have 2 sub adults or babys in its group until they are fully grown. altough again that would be a shame for friend playing together
umbral prairie
locational damage will make breaking legs by biting the air behind the tail impossible, which is something I am really looking forward to
heavy citrus
better then 5 adults ATM
heavy citrus
and if players want change best thing will be to give both parties something they can agree on
umbral prairie
many people would stay at max sub since it is such a good playable and they can stay in the pack, plus if it gets dangerous for them they have protection from the adults
vagrant crest
And apply alot of pressure
Changing the limit to 3 is a nice way to deal with all of the apex's people report being unable to do a thing about without having to change any mechanics in the game
heavy citrus
in the end it all comes down to the devs. making a game is hard enough but making it balanced enough is even harder. and no matter what update comes or what u do in life. some people will never be satisfied by the decision made at hand.
vagrant crest
Right. Which is why the suggestion is to change a rule, and not the programming in the game
heavy citrus
i know but even with rules going down to 3 for example. u will have people come in discord raging over it no matter what for.
thats what i mean
vagrant crest
And?
heavy citrus
nothing that sentence is a statment not a discussion
vagrant crest
It's an open forum for discussion as long as people are civil
Maybe they're leaving it at 5 for a good reason though
eg. 40 man herds.
heavy citrus
😂 dont wanne meet those
umbral prairie
I mean hopefully apex growth will be made much harder anyway, they should be a very rare sight instead of every second player you see, so hopefully people won't even be able to form an apex pack of 5. I hope the 'making apex growth harder' will be something else than giving them ridiculous food drain, it should be challenging but still somehow fun in a way (I know that is much to ask for, but that would be the best thing to have imo)
vagrant crest
Honestly idk why multi rex/giga packs are such a massive concern when there's 5 trike herds + a bizzillion other supporter dino's
heavy citrus
true. im more scared of a pack of trikes then rexes
vagrant crest
and if you're looking for the easiest apex in the game to raise and sustain look no further: trike
umbral prairie
trikes get wrecked by apexes right now if they´apexes are not new to the game, but yes herbis can be more dangerous. Many people prefer carnivore life though since there is even less content for herbis than carnis (at least on the EU servers, there are big herds on US 1)
vagrant crest
I mean the content boils down to the herds sitting in the same spot for 200 hours of gameplay time
torpid wedge
“step back to counter assriding”
controversially the biter could step back too lol
heavy citrus
trikes get wrecked by apexes right now if they are not new to the game i dont think u realise how strong packs are
vagrant crest
Right now both sides are easy to raise which is fine
versed blaze
US1 trikes have wrecked some pretty experienced rex's
heavy citrus
most fun dino is that small one that can dig holes tho 😄 (cant remember all these names)
versed blaze
So, it's not just a wreck in trike vs rex
vagrant crest
Sometimes your hitboxes never seem to apply to trikes on hills either
and guess where you normally find trikes
umbral prairie
I know that trikes can also fuck apexes over, but only if the apexes don't know how to fight trikes (if the trike herd is supported by maias and dibbles it might get impossible to win against them, I am aware of that)
heavy citrus
^^ yea i noticed that too. but that prop fixable? idk
vagrant crest
I've been in many fights where I go well beyound the number of hits required to take down a trike
add to the fact that those same trikes can have maia's get the rex to drain it's stam, and dibbles to apply some damage before the fight with the trike
umbral prairie
I used to play herbi and try to motivate my herd to migrate, but 90% of my last migrating experiences was walking for 15 minutes and then having 5 rexes ambush out of the woods killing everyone except the 1 galli running away fast enough
vagrant crest
Those are dead rex's
umbral prairie
yeah hitboxes are pretty dumb right now
vagrant crest
herbs have the edge Just the average herb player doesn't do pvp well
I would like a limit on all groups to be honest
umbral prairie
maybe I have had bad luck with my herds but I often had the case of an apex pack killing 1 trike or para, and then all the pther paras and trikes run in one at a time also dying to the apex pack and later complaining about apexes being OP. most times apex packs of 5 are too strong, but these herds were often so big that they could have overpowered the apexes or at least drive them off, sometimes it is the herbis fault if they die to apexes
maybe affinity will lower if you're in a herd or pack too big? It should only go down if the pack/herd is very big though, except for apexes
vagrant crest
Yeah, I've been killing those herds. They aren't doing pvp well
umbral prairie
those are the 'we're sitting on this mountain forever' herds that sometimes don't even know they have a right click
heavy citrus
^^^ reason why i played that test map first in deathmatch. maybe they can add a tutorial that u have to go trough againt players 🤔
vagrant crest
Nah. People just need to learn to fight. Applies both ways
But back to the main point
I would personally like to see the apex limit dropped to see if that helps with getting more mid tiers out into the map
umbral prairie
I think the ideal ecosystem on current V3 would be about 200 players, probably about half of them as herbivores (not too big herds so they can be hunted) many low and mid tiers, and only very few apexes, maybe like 8 gigas and 6 rexes or sth like that (maybe more, but only this many full adults)
jovial blade
Lol if you play on a server where non survivalist can be bought
Its the worst attacking herds
They have shants, camas,theris and trikes
Shit is harder to attack then a pack of apexes lol
umbral prairie
people paying more money for 1 stupid life than for the whole game smh
shadow dirge
Yeah saying a pue can take on 4 rexes means literally nothing since it isn't a survival dino
But even on servers with those dinos injected in @jovial blade , they usually limit apex carnies to 2 or 3. Really don't get how it's acceptable that the official servers haven't done the same yet
jovial blade
Lol even if my ping was good on officals
pulsar lake
But for the one who sayed "12 dilos are not enough to kill a rex" is just crazy.
You can be 3 or 4 dilo and kill a rex
jovial blade
I wouldn't play
Even 3 rexes is annoying but manageable
More then 3 would ruin gameplay
jovial blade
It turns into a "we need more then them" set of mind
shadow dirge
With alt-turn on a solo rex can take on 4 dilos easily if he doesn't suck
But yeah I agree, I only play one servers with max 2 apex carnies cause it's just not fun with more
pulsar lake
Alt turn in combat is for sucker and ass riding too
shadow dirge
Pretty sure all convos that go on in this disc are referring to official servers
Which have alt turn turned on
And alt turn is gonna be hard coded in soon enough
so servers won't be able to turn it off
pulsar lake
But you don't have any danger in official because all rex are friendly and won't attack the other pack
shadow dirge
Yeah same, more fun that way imo
pulsar lake
Yea 
paper oriole
why does it matter that a pue can squish 4 rexes just walk away from it lmao
viral creek
"In official, all rex are friendly and will not attack the other pack."
I'd hate to break it to ya but... The main cause of rexes dying is being eaten by a larger pack of rexes.
But I do agree. Apex limit should be made 2-3
hallow vigil
@glossy fable if you have an issue with an admin abusing power or anything like that, report it to punchpacket
dont make suggestions insulting admins with no evidence
heavy citrus
@paper crag u can have a map on your browser
misty island
Stop about the colour suggestions lmfao
10th thousand times about it this month while they already said they will add more after the recode
heavy citrus
fragon u want more rules then the ones in #rules-and-info ?
misty island
@heavy citrus revengekilling water glitching
It’s not there
And ppl don’t click it
Make it in the discord so people can be #to it
Like really
heavy citrus
oh yeah. altough if they add carying dead bodys that should be ''fixed'' but yeah an updated rules would be nice. maybe add it ingame too
misty island
It’s not about a specific rule I am talking about
heavy citrus
i know its about being aware of them
misty island
It’s in general how people are so arrogant that they heard about it and have a generic idea then decided what it is instead of actually knowing the rule
This dude I met the other day
Was trying to convince me
Hiding behind a waterfall moving around is not water glitching
Like wtf bro
Lmfao excuse me I am not entirely awake yet
heavy citrus
yeah sounds about right. altough first time i joined i read the rules and was in game swimming away from a hungry trex wich u cant do it seems but i was like ''its not in the rules so how am i doing something wrong'' but i was unaware u cant eat in water etc so yeah. i agree would be a good idea
misty island
@bleak hearth they said recoding will fix it
bleak hearth
@misty island hopefully :c
misty island
Smthing about relocating from a static interaction point on the ground to the body itself
So it can allow body dragging
Therefore if a thing rag doll down the hill u can still eat it
jolly willow
a death log and a "X playing X" wouldn't hurt anyone i think
think of how in JP they had the logs of how many dinos there were
like an example being you check the tab or whatever and along with the other playables
17 playing T. rex
etc etc
misty island
Welp idk about the server species population counts, cus it would minus the horror factor to the game. Honestly I don’t think the devs wants that to happen
jolly willow
maybe
misty island
But knowing what u have on which server would be nice
barren zephyr
That would be cool
paper oriole
Reduced growth times? On all dinos? Do you want the apex population to explode even more?
jovial moss
Yeah like why be herbivore when you can just bbe a rex after 2 hours lol
paper oriole
Ikr
jovial moss
I do think a lot of herbivore growth times could be reduced
paper oriole
Yea thatd be nice
barren zephyr
Herbivores kinda boring anyways
paper oriole
I mean youre basically playing a walking burger anyway with how carnis get all the attention
jovial moss
depends on who you ask, I'd say carnivore is pretty boring right now too since food practically falls into your mouth
at least herbivores have to migrate eventually
paper oriole
Herbi tends to be more boring cus most servers will flood salt on you for killing somebody as an herbi
But carnis killing for shits and giggles when they arent hungry is a-ok
jovial moss
yeah I don't like that
barren zephyr
I always felt like they should add another carrot for herbies
jovial moss
I've been on a few servers where the rule is like "can't attack unless you're attacked first" like ? what animal does that IRL
jovial moss
you think a rhino is gunna let a lion come take a bite out of its ass before it retaliates
Herbivores need to have more going for them to be more fun
paper oriole
Same i personally only kill when i need to, not when im a bored rex killing 9 paras for a laugh
jovial moss
most of them are just raw damage
raw damage is nothing when your enemy can just bleed you out
hence the bite and run lol tactic
paper oriole
^
jovial moss
Anything that looks capable of breaking bones should break bones
to add risk for carnivores
barren zephyr
Stomps should break bones if they exceed 1k damage
jovial moss
cuz right now its just 12 dilos hunting down a pair of pachies till night time falls and you bleed them out
paper oriole
Anky should have high bone break chance, pachy should too against mid tiera
jovial moss
Pachy should definitely break small tier bones at least, and have like a 50% chance at mid tiers
paper oriole
Yea
barren zephyr
They could make bonebreak chance depending on weight
would make it much more manageable
paper oriole
Also an herbi with decent nightvision would be nice, maybe dryo
jovial moss
The problem with a lot of herbs right now is that they were designed around HAVING bone break initially and the devs suddenly took it away
like maia
so balancing them is hard when you jsut keep their original stats
paper oriole
Yea now theyre just steaks
jovial moss
Pachy had amazing vision IRL, so I think it'd be nice if it had good night vision
jovial moss
I am... a pachy main my good buddy
paper oriole
Pachy could yea, dryo is a burrower which makes me think they should have better vision in the dark
jovial moss
I am well aware lmao
paper oriole
Squeeeeeee
jovial moss
pachy other trait: run in, do some damage, die to paper cut
barren zephyr
If they have location damage
dinos that use headbutts should be close to immune to concussions
and concussion would be like a chance to stun a dino for 1-3 seconds
would be cool
paper oriole
A knockdown from chargers like pachy would be a neat mechanic
misty island
@jovial blade ever played PubG third person mode?
I think it’s called corner peaking
sage helm
It's hard to corner peek when there are trees everywhere and the camera is centered in the middle amd not of to one side like it is in pubg
misty island
@sage helm try zoom all the way in then reverse 1/5
Then corner peek a tree
U can perfectly see
If you can’t see with that I doubt u can see with 1person either
sage helm
By that point they can already see you. The issue isnt that its impossible, rather that the prey will see u by then
misty island
I mean ur not supposed to see very far in dense forest anyways....
Well
I don’t have much trouble with that
I mostly play Rex
sage helm
We are talking at the edgr of a forest
misty island
Trust me it’s very very hard to hide as Rex
sage helm
A side view would be nice
sage helm
My guy why are u agruing against it? It will help u out trust me
misty island
But it wouldn’t be as much as Monkizu is trying to sell it
The current game build allows the same function
Just in a more complex and difficult manner
sage helm
He justm said its annoying lol
misty island
I d rather they focus their recourses on the recoding
Reframing the game instead of spending a week or two trying to make a new first person mode for every different sized dinos
sage helm
Well yea this would all happen aftsr recode
misty island
Well then it shouldn’t be brought up now lmfao
sage helm
U could use that argument for any of these suggestions
misty island
Same as the million more colour suggestion lmfao
sage helm
So why focus on monik
misty island
Not focusing him just
Saying maybe his post sunk for a reason
And maybe he should t repost it every two to three days
sage helm
I mean its been a week sonce he posted about it
And 17 people agreed
Shows it is an issue people are seeing
misty island
You are making it personal
Although I admit I am not the biggest fan but mostly I stay neutral
I just shit on most of the ideas cus they are not practical atm and would actually slow down the process of game development
At the end of the day we are all gamers who like this game
Fuck with me if you want but don’t question my intentions in attacking or focusing a person
Cus that’s not how I do things
Right we talked about this long enough so let’s just drop this and move on
sonic socket
what about asian server ?
spiral pond
Asian official server would be organized Chinese mafia
spiral pond
Ok not Mafia
spiral pond
But they are organized
misty island
There will be Koreans Japanese south East Asians and Australian
spiral pond
And even now they still do it
misty island
Not only chinese
spiral pond
I know
sonic socket
we need many different Korean Server
jovial blade
@misty island I didn't ask for them to stop what they're doing and add a pov mechanic
I simply want it there so devs can see it and think about it
wintry cipher
@sick panther have you tried telling your friend that sometimes dangerous stuff happens and it's best to stay small and wait? Cuz he'd probably grow mid run and freeze/get killed or the like
sick panther