general-feedback-discussion

[limber hull]

i mean, you're not going to be able to interact with them, and they're more than likely going to kill themselves at the first opportunity of AI teno is any example

[void crow]

@sour tartan This, or make it so they can only smell them when half of the food is gone, so they can't just run there and wait, they have to wait for herbivores to be there for a while and THEN go. Also I would make them stay for at least an hour but put more food, and make it more spread out. (Also sometimes they stay for over 12 hours, but I believe that's a bug.)

@swift zephyr They're also too powerful at the moment. They can kill adult troodons fairly easily if you don't run, even though they're compy sized. And they spawn the second you kill something, so you can't eat.

[ivory sandal]

@untold thistle herbivores can graze on grass, you know that, right?

If you can't make it to a migration zone, you can keep yourself from starvation by eating grass. It caps at 20% and you can't gain hunger grazing past that, and you'll still be at a nutrient deficiency, but you won't die

[proven karma]

I just waited in que for 55 minutes only for the game to tell me that the server was full once it was actually my turn... Not only that. My friend actually managed to join the server instantly that I was in a que for. So now I'm sitting here trying to get into the server where my friend is currently playing despite having waited as number 38 in que. WTF man... Please fix the que system :/

[icy lion]

@vocal pumice Try wiping the config folder, it might help to reset the controls

[vocal pumice]

is that the one that resets my skins?

[icy lion]

Not if you only delete the Config folder

[vocal pumice]

cool

thx:))

[sweet sequoia]

I’m na5

[dusky solar]

Bro, I asked this yesterday lmao

[jovial lichen]

I'm playing Pachy, and for the last 30 minutes I've been walking towards the migration zones, I seem to never arrive, but the migration zones seem to swap every time I'm getting close. There is no food anywhere around

[dusty scarab]

anyone else playing deino have an issue where swimming on the surface you start stuttering and splashing everwhere?

[icy lion]

@valid meteor You can tap H to stand up without stam, but it'll be slower

[sour tartan]

Yes exactly. Even this would work just fine, I’d say more like when there’s 20-40% of the food left, then they can see the zone. But honestly, I’ll take anything over the carnis having full access to migration zones at all times right now

[void crow]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[sour tartan]

@void fiber play at like 2AM, almost every server has less than 90 people in it LOL, it’s super easy to get into a server during that time

2AM eastern time

[light sinew]

Is anyone else experiencing action delays on gateway testing?

[lethal quartz]

For people complaining about night vision, what we had increased/brighter night vision and distance directly in front of you through a limited (but still improved) range/depth/viewpoint, while areas to the sides/back remain the same, still giving night predators the opportunity to surprise-flank? Basically akin to a flashlight in some way, but not as bright or obtuse.

then again IMO I prefer the new night vision, the problem is that night lasts too long (again) and that some playables defintiely need their night vision adjusted (such as deino)

[vivid bloom]

I like that, I would say if you had the current night vision intensity w/ a direction cone where you are looking thats brighter that would be cool, but still impair your peripheral vision a bit mroe at night

[loud obsidian]

I may get ban for this but someone has to said it .. WTH is this migration ? changing every 15 minutes and my diet changing every 10 minutes all i do as a pachy is running around like a headless chicken breaking my legs following this stupid migration with no stamina TRASH is this whole system.

[lethal quartz]

migration is great when you manage to meet people and form a herd. What's really holding a lot back is the stamina system, especially for some carnivore species out there.

[vivid bloom]

I agree, idk who thought this new stamina system was a good idea but they need a flick on their forehead for it

[bleak vale]

Do devs at least check general and balance feedback? They don't comment anything, so it's a bit frustrating, because they may leave all this bs how it is now

[feral solstice]

They literally mentioned stamina consumption needs adjusting for this system on Reddit lol
Wdym

[lyric spoke]

@barren zephyr I have no idea why people are disagreeing with you on that. Galli's skin definitely has some weird dust texture on its back, it's distracting and looks bad. I keep thinking it will wash off in the water.

[feral solstice]

Same with trot speeds. Devs said they’re adjusting those too.

[bleak vale]

But the problem is with healing stam, not with its consumption, uhh

[cyan flame]

Yes, they do check. And they've acknowledged that trots need tweaks, as well as some attacks and how much stam they use. So things are likely to change.

[vivid bloom]

I would say its both, the regen rate is bad but the overall stam pool is low too. They both need to be corrected as well as trot speed I cant fathom why they made it so bad

[cyan flame]

They don't want us to be able to just run/rest/run, I think at least

So, if you use up stam, you now have to pay the price to get it back. But this, without good trots/walks and changes to food/water drain doesn't work out very well. Hence why we're hopefully getting better trots for travel and so on.

[vivid bloom]

Ngl I switched back to spiro purely because the trotting/stam/food drain is such a pain I got sick of it lol

Especially cera cause your food drain is so high to start with that you have a hard time even keeping up with it

[rare fractal]

It's honestly a good change that's currently overtuned/not tuned enough

[vivid bloom]

The new stam system is a good change is what youre saying?

[normal lotus]

I'd say it is but needs tweaking.

[vivid bloom]

I respect the spirit of the new system, with not having dinos just sprinting everywhere all the time or pouncing dinosaurs constantly, but in its current state its just a major pain. Id be curious to see how they make it keep a more realistic feel without being so cringe

[normal lotus]

Notably in small species, and increasing trot speed. And imo you good

[barren zephyr]

@mystic moat eh i dont reaaally know abt that, i mean thats what the jumping in water is for. you already gain stam back if you continuosly jump out and in the water

[vivid bloom]

And Id say either lower food and water drain or make ai more prevalent, cause its a headache for carnivores

[desert arch]

I played beipi today, and in fact, you do lose stamina while breaching. It is a low amount, like 2% per jump, but you can only gain that back with sitting or swimming on top of the water.

[bleak vale]

same

[barren zephyr]

oh yeah i forgot.. the new stam system

[flat ruin]

bro ofc they ruin our furst gateway expierences with new bad mechanics

):

[rare fractal]

Yes but it's gratuitously limiting to the point of complete disengagement

Like food drains need to be FAR longer than they currently are, attacks, jumps, etc need to cost less stam

Trots need to be better across the board

[vivid bloom]

^agree with all of it, I have over 1300 hours in the isle, I spent one day on gateway and I was like "Ill go back to spiro till they fix this stuff" lol

[rare fractal]

Yeah in it's current state it's just boring

Like especially with how treacherous the terrain on gateway is in conjunction with NV adjustments and stam....there's never been more reasons to simply NOT play the game

Or rather not engage with it

[vivid bloom]

God right, who thought it was a good idea to make night darker, make NV terrible, AND add in all kinds of surprise sheer cliffs surrounded by brush? I swear man, its like they spin a wheel to decide new game mechanics then go yup thats it lol

[normal lotus]

@mint gyro you wasted all your stamina, therefore, you gotta deal with the reprocussions.

[north quiver]

deinos having genuine struggle on gateway brings me great joy

[normal lotus]

Same. Albeit the bug of them spawning outside of water ain't cool.

[mint gyro]

its hard when most of the spawns are disconnected from the mais waters and i have to walk like a fcking fat lard ball for 30 min

• deino alr has low stam

[normal lotus]

Then spawn on the spawn thats attached to the main waterway.

That or find a place where they intersect.

[normal lotus]

Or rather where they're the closest.

[mint gyro]

"find"

did that

its not about being hard to find

its about not being able to regen stam

and its stupid how slow it is

@hard summit I think it would be smarter to do something like in the vide "Dinosaur Vocalization Study (2022) | Cretaceous Era" made by @StudioMod youtube channel, as it includes sounds from an ongoing study utilizing the most recent scientific data on dinosaur vocalizations from about 1 year ago, most of their works are super cool. Especialy the Quetz one.

you should check it out if you havent

[hard summit]

ill have to look at that bc i just dont like the old quetz sounds

the path of titan sounds for quetz are amazing imo

[mint gyro]

Its def worth it

i bet youll like it

[empty fossil]

Why people don't like progression system? They don't want to see apex on official servers + more species diversity? I don't understand that..Yea survival mode is cool and all. Fact that u can play just what you want, from a little baby to adult but it makes so many problems for rest of the game. Like there is many species that no one plays or on the other hand, overpopulation of different ones. In my opinion, progression is the healthiest mode for this game. I know that many disagree with my take, so some of you can tell me where I am wrong.

[limber hull]

the new mechanics have made my experience with gateway way more fun

[flat ruin]

[limber hull]

i literally remarked to my friend i was playing with how much cooler the game feels with the new NV, stam and migrations

[fair plover]

It seems like this new stamina wasn’t that good at all. Dinosaur’s had better stamina in real life than they have in Gateway.

[flat ruin]

fr

i dont want to wait 10 minutes to regen stam...

how does that make the game more enjoyable

[vocal pumice]

-136,649.333, -302,257.757, 28,269.862 this human structure needs some dev magic

[vivid bloom]

Just because you actively avoid enjoyment doesn’t mean the rest of us do you insane person

[limber hull]

wdym

likes thing i dont like
"avoids enjoyment"

i literally do not play games if i dont enjoy them lol, the new changes make the game feel more natural, survival-oriented and tense

[cyan flame]

To be fair, what is enjoyable is quite subjective, as fun generally is. Most people probably take enjoyment out of combat, but then there's those that have a more "staying alive is fun" mindset or so.

[vivid bloom]

I can’t imagine anyone outside of a Siberian prison finding the current stam/trotting/NV system more enjoyable lol

[cyan flame]

I'd say new NV looks better than old one, but some of the playables could use a bit more range, or brightness especially (stego and cera at least, probably some of the others too). As for the stamina changes, I like the concept, but it's severely lacking due to how bad walks and trots are. If those are sped up however, it would be fine to move around from what I can tell at least.

[vivid bloom]

That would depend on the dinosaurs abilities, for example laching Dino’s like Omni get kinda screwed by it and prolly need a boost on stam reserves. I like the idea of trot speed being more, I like an idea someone else had to have increased night vision in a cone where your Dino is looking

[hidden mist]

Btw does drinking fix ‘food stuck’ bug for everyone? Or I was just lucky that time. Also does only galli have a bug with camera when it picks things up while crouching?

[still sinew]

@mental mountain should prolly be more specific than that.

[mental mountain]

huh

[mental mountain]

A lot of it looks cheap and bland. Especially the Ui trying to get into the servers

Look at legacies UI. It was leagues better

[limber hull]

how

[still sinew]

Would you beable to screen shot legasues UI and Evrimas to compare them?

[mental mountain]

Just look at teh difference

Sure

Legacy

Evrima

[still sinew]

Thanks! I haven't seen legasies in a while - I agree the server page it more interesting

[mental mountain]

Mhm

[limber hull]

legacy actively is more cluttered and overcomplicated, and makes it difficult to read the text

EVRIMA makes the colour of the server icons actively more visible and distinct, and allows you to more easily read the content

[mental mountain]

Not exactly

Legacies is streamlined

[limber hull]

reminder that Legacy had a constantly moving radar in the background of the server menu at all times

[mental mountain]

And?

I could see just fine

[limber hull]

its actively distracting

[mental mountain]

Also its more lore friendly

[limber hull]

okay? its more frustrating for more visually impaired people

[still sinew]

I don't recall it ever being a problem for me :/

[mental mountain]

Have it be an option for them

[lyric spoke]

I never had an issue looking at the legacy list

[still sinew]

Yeah that's what accessibilty options are for

[limber hull]

the servers aren't seperated well, so information blends together, since there's no defined rows, which EVRIMA does have

[mental mountain]

And even beyond that, the character menu for players in evrima is very unsophisticated

Then have the defined rows on legacies look

See a difference

[limber hull]

the only notable difference is the large world radar thing

[mental mountain]

Not exactly

Everything on legacy is decently streamlined compared to evrima

[limber hull]

i fail to see how EVRIMA is less stremlined here?

food and water were actively harder to read in Legacy because it didn't decrease smoothly

[mental mountain]

Huh?

[limber hull]

food and water displays on the legacy char screen

because it was harder to tell these values

[mental mountain]

I think it all boils down to being preferential, and a large amount of people prefer legacy over evrimas. You win I guess. Though my opinion doesn't change

Nice convo tho

[limber hull]

@modern pilot omni has been in an excellent, powerful state for all of U6.5, wdym "needs some love"

also, omni is a bleeder/endurance pack hunter that punches up, its hunts are meant to be very long, that's the point

also the frenzy thing is some PoT type stuff and just makes the game feel more arcadey, not to mention being a mechanic thats entirely unnecessary, existing to make winning omnis win more, despite the fact that bleed nerfs health and stam regen already, making omnis have the advantage without an additional frenzy mechanic

im also not entirely sure why you keep pulling the "if disagree u are herbi main" argument lol

as someone who has mained basically exclusively omni/troodon, at no point have i ever gone "damn if only this thing was even better at soloing tenos". I actually used to play more herbis before U6.5 came out and made teno/pachy so goddamn bad and omni/cera insanely good, because the herbivores universally feel worse than carnivores in terms of strength

the only thing i agreed with your post is that tap-pounces are lame, but i'd fix that by nerfing pounce's impact damage and making it more necessary to actually hold onto the prey, rather than adding an overcomplicated system designed to chip away at ceras bleed resist (somehow)

[urban flax]

I downvoted the post because I'm a herbi main

[limber hull]

thank u

[modern pilot]

Not trying to make the argument that only herbis disagree. Just that carnis get a lot of smack from the herbivore community without understanding the effort it takes to take down herbivores especially for omni. I like omnis difficult style but I'm trying to think of how devs are designing dinos for immersion and effectiveness simultaneously in evrima. I like the gash system for its immersive elements mostly which is why I emphasized it's slight impact on bleed damage. And I agree that the frenzy could be arcadey, I thought it again would be more immersive with the thought in mind that Omnis while smart are cruel blood thirsty animals. Personally, the ones I want emphasized the most for all those ideas are the shove, and the knock down. I'd just like to see the bleeding dino interact more with bleeding system in unique ways. Most dinos have a gimmick and omnis pounce doesn't feel very good rn compared to the rest of the roster. Especially since it's always bugged (Idk if they fixed not being able to pounce when dino is alt biting yet).

[limber hull]

herbivores have seen nothing but nerf after nerf, and at this point, they're all rather garbage (yes, even stego, who is getting an ENTIRE kit rework because its current design would have it folded in 2 seconds to anything slightly large like a rex)

tenos tail in U6.5 had its damage gutted to be less than half of a carno charge, do less knockdowns and still cost tons of stam

pachy just got shredded in every way without any compensation, completely helpless against the new cera, because while removing its stunlock was needed, it got NOTHING to compensate

carnivores, however, have seen TONS of love, and at this point, are some of the only viable options. its insane how much stronger animals like omni, cera and deino are to the rest of the roster. Herbi mains don't like the idea of carnis seeing more buffs because carnivores have already been scaled to the moon and back, and herbivores see the opposite treatment. Hell, omni doesn't even get punished for missing anymore, which was the main way herbivores could even hit them in the first place

the only thing holding omni back is that alt-bite issue, otherwise, it's essentially unstoppable

omni shouldn't need these frenzy buffs to be viable, bleed is already an insanely potent tool

[rare fractal]

We're also rebalancing around a version of gateway that lacks stamina optimization

So....yknow that's kinda important to consider when evaluating the economy of combat atm

[modern pilot]

I mean there is some debate whether or not stego is an apex and should be able to handle apexes. If they dont add trike with rex he will def need to be apex worthy. But rex isn't out yet so stego still remains the strongest thing on the roster. Cera and deino ofc prolly need to be scaled back. But I don't think omni is seeing the success that you say he is. And again, I want Omni to interact with the bleed system in different ways not necessarily in OP ways. Maybe even the bleed system itself needs to be fundamentally changed in some ways, but it's not an insanely potent tool when considering the environmental factors. It takes a long time, requires near perfect play from the omni who is privvy to be interfered with by other carnis or, very often, out stammed. Because the stamina system is in an awful place atm.

[rare fractal]

@lyric spoke at the very least certain attacks need to be useable out of sprint, Pachy and teno are the two lost in need of that. I can understand how animation canceling sprints can be problematic for combat but honestly it feels better when you’re able to catch people right behind you without that obvious delay.

[limber hull]

bleed gives so many benefits its nuts

• reduces stamina regen
• reduces health regen
• punishes you for literally moving
• punishes you for not having full food, stam, water and health
• constant DoT that can be reapplied in a single attack

like its crazy how good bleed is. Omni absolutely performs successfully, its issue is that it takes skill and careful dodging, where most omni mains just want a thing dead without actually knowing how to play and get crushed

buffing it after U6.5's complete boost to its entire gameplay would be nuts

[lyric spoke]

Wouldn't even mind if it would cause your feet to brake from sprint and start the attack after slowing down a bit. Sad to see them stick with that change.

[rare fractal]

Agreed

[barren zephyr]

Deino isn’t even as strong as it should be 2 deinos should wipe the floor with a stego everyone cries ab apexes to good but rlly their not I remember u could be on a freaking 4 allos and wreck rexes like they were none so could raptors and ceras it’s not ab the Dino being good or bad it’s the players the apexes should be strong their apexes and cera isn’t even that crazy either I’ve died to plenty of tenos and plenty of carnos ppl just whine to much and want it they’re way and not how it actually was lmao

[limber hull]

lmao

[modern pilot]

Deino should not be 8 tons

[barren zephyr]

Bro it dragged rexes in the hell

Deino was massive

[modern pilot]

For the sake of the game man power creep for apexes was the biggest issue in legacy

[barren zephyr]

Also one more thing I see everyone whine ab apexes shouldn’t be in the game they were in life back then and have always been in this game why shouldn’t they be. That makes no sense. The map is so big and so many cliffs for them to die and ppl kill them on sight u won’t see them as much as we did on legacy the map is 2 times the size lol

[limber hull]

no one is saying apexes shouldn't be added lol what

[barren zephyr]

And even tho I mained apex I played allo and plenty of smaller Dino’s and saw plenty of smaller Dino’s in the game dilo and raptor packs, suchos, allo packs and cera packs, acros, dibbles, plenty of stuff in the game

[barren zephyr]

I said not at u this is to other ppl who told me they shouldn’t be added at all in general

[modern pilot]

Also on paper this looks great with it's downsides being the time it takes and high bleed dinos having low damage bites. I make no reservations that the bleed system isn't strong. You're still misunderstanding me when I say that omnis don't need to get stronger just more unique.

[limber hull]

that's such a niche sentiment that it's bizarre you feel the need to call it out

[modern pilot]

Apex def should be in the game. It's a complex issue tho. It becomes all people want to play.

[barren zephyr]

Bc their fun

[limber hull]

i mean, it was that way in legacy for a very obvious set of reasons

[barren zephyr]

U can’t hate something that’s fun

[limber hull]

1: Every single animal was exactly the same, except with different stats
2: Apexes were inherently just better than most of the roster, not just in size, but they legitimately were just better in all factors
3: Small animals had barely any unique factors drawing people to play them

[modern pilot]

It is absolutely fun to decimate anything you cross. It is also, from a game design perspective, unbalanced and tough on the rest of the roster.

[limber hull]

Also, apexes were boringly easy to grow in legacy

Why not grow a rex? It's easy and it's better than other options

[barren zephyr]

Def not easy

[limber hull]

Legacy very much catered to apexes much more than anything else, which in turn, obviously made them the most popular

[limber hull]

legacy apex was so goddamn easy to grow, i ended up taking needless risks just because i was BORED trying to do it the viable way

they were a joke lol

[frozen spear]

i would post in feedback but they're sick of its always nighttime feedback if you are FIX IT

[limber hull]

the game literally had zones where if it detected your poor rex was hungry from sitting in the bush and not doing anything, it'd spawn you free food just to make sure ur apex carnivore isnt too tough 🥺

it literally babysat carnivores, which made them easy as hell, and considering apex carnis were just better than everything else, there was no reason not to grow them besides either playing utah/dilo to tailride said apexes, or playing allo because you like generic therapod

[frozen spear]

i cant post in feedback cause my feedback ws night time last to long do youthink the devs are bad yes

[limber hull]

EVRIMA does things differently
1: Apexes are said to be oppressively difficult to grow, and the chances of seeing an adult, let alone an elder of any apex, would be an insanely rare opportunity
2: Smaller animals actually have their own thing going on. Venom, climbing, burrowing, diving, jumping, stealing, etc

[frozen spear]

bad players make bad devs

[limber hull]

no i dont think the devs are bad

great talk

[frozen spear]

i would say stop suckikng theyre dick

yes tyope little man

[limber hull]

why are you so mad lol

virtual night too long time to get mad when someone doesn't hate the devs for like existing

[frozen spear]

im not by the night last as long as the devs contemp to their players

like fix it now not hard

[limber hull]

it doesnt need fixing

night is fine, it's shorter than it was before lol

[frozen spear]

your dumb

and its not

[limber hull]

thanks

[frozen spear]

dont comment on stuff yuou know nothing about and youll be fine

[limber hull]

ive played the game wdym i know nothing about it lol

[frozen spear]

please go to the feedback channel

[limber hull]

i literally am a game designer by career im qualified to comment lmao

[frozen spear]

im sure you are buddy

[limber hull]

thanks man

i worked a lot to get here

[frozen spear]

getr where?

[limber hull]

its okay, dont worry about it

[pliant bison]

[frozen spear]

you have no role in discord

[limber hull]

yea because i dont work on this game specifically

[still sinew]

the "uhm actually" intensifies.

[limber hull]

i never once said i did

[frozen spear]

ya dont worry man i belive im also the leade dev on call of duty

[modern pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/choso-vs-yuji-gif-18099864555294464080

[pliant bison]

[limber hull]

good to hear

i hope you do well in achieving that dream

[still sinew]

I unironically watch this channel for Mr.'s pure gold comments

[frozen spear]

sorry i lied just like you

[limber hull]

oh my

[pliant bison]

[limber hull]

well, you'll get there someday

[vale pawn]

[limber hull]

i believe in you, work hard and you can achieve it

[frozen spear]

who believes these ppl lol

[limber hull]

what people

[frozen spear]

just gonna ignore a "game designer"

[limber hull]

feel free

it was clearly a point of contention and i was wrong to have brought it up, and i'm sorry

i believe he has blocked me

well, good talk, i hope he does well for himself

[urban flax]

What an argument

[limber hull]

was that what it was

[urban flax]

You can't be a game designed since videogame developers aren't real people
That's why they suck
Our world is controlled by machines who make bad videogames

[barren zephyr]

It won’t do that in gateway tho def not as bad you’ll have to go out

[flat jetty]

@lavish shadow like your feedback, except for this part.

People wouldn’t massively play Carno, if Ceras could survive. Ceras kill each other faster than Carno can find them.

I have been playing gateway 3 days now, within these 3 days I could grow 3 carnos to fg and met many friendly carnos, while I tried to play as cera asap I reached 50% got cannibalised by my “group members”. Called it unluck and tried again, this time reached 70% and got cannibalised again. It has nothing to do with buffs or something, people want to play a bigger Dino, and not small critters. And as for now you have 2 options, 1 semi friendly, and 2nd being I will kill you the moment I can.

Also, cera was never meant to be a running/hunting Dino, it was a garbage disposal and a tanky Dino.

[minor hound]

They need to add a anaconda or some type of snake thatd be cool

[barren zephyr]

Carno really doesn't need 0 accel considering it's size. Animals much smaller than it take longer to pick up speed than carno does

Not saying he needs to be as bad as 6.5, but it definitely needs to at least exist

[urban flax]

Carno is an insult to the laws of physics

[barren zephyr]

It's being the fastest dino, uncatchable unless it's not paying attention or its afk. Nothing can outrun it, and it's the strongest carnivore in the game right now when it should be struggling against tenos

Small game hunter turned brawler

[urban flax]

I wouldn't mind carno being the fastest dino if it was being balanced properly around it
Instead of being balanced around being able to kill ceras in a 1v1

[limber hull]

i mean, carno having high accel isn't really against the lore of physics. Big things can accelerate fast. It'd honestly have a harder time slowing down than speeding up

[urban flax]

Heavier the object=more enrgy conservation= it takes more time to both accelerate and slow down
Those go hand in hand
Unless carno can propel itself through an explosive burst of energy right behind itself like it was in a cannon, accelerating that fast is a huge middle finger to the law of physics

[flat mortar]

I didn't think the Carno accelerated that fast. Anyone got like a video of going from 0 to max speed?

[desert arch]

Here you go. Before the 3rd charge you can see it getting to max speed right after drifting.

[mint gyro]

@final leaf thats thing about the allo was a joke yeah?

[flat mortar]

Well yeah that's basically 0 to 100 instantly

Is the realism even important

Ig you could argue, that if you wanted carno to be a train, you could have the acceleration be lower

[mint gyro]

@pure crane mind telling me what about my message you didnt enjoy?

[pure crane]

No 💝

[mint gyro]

"No" as in you dont mind or you do?

[still sinew]

"and I took that personally"

[mint gyro]

Tbh it looks like it was

[still sinew]

Lol I didn't mean them.

[mint gyro]

Ik but im talking so that theyll see what i mean

Borrowed ur msg for me lol

[proven karma]

Last night I waited in que for 55 minutes only for the game to tell me the server was full when it was finally my turn. Like... You don't say? That's why I waited in the que... Now as I was growing my 80% Dinosuchus it just lost connection to host in the middle of the water in a pvp area and now I'm number 22 in que.

I love this game when it actually works. But it is beyond frustrating to get it to work sometimes...

[latent olive]

@mint gyro that “studiomod” guy and his videos are fake, they’re random sounds he made into his mic and adjusted

He HEAVILY leaned into doing more of them when he made the first video and got heaps of views, despite content before the first video being almost entirely unrelated to paleo-media

They aren’t formed from a study either, that’s a straight lie

[flat mortar]

Most of their citations are blogs that source studies, instead of citing studies directly

[proven karma]

Now I've waited for 30 minutes in que and it's simply stuck in ''Connecting'' screen.

[flat mortar]

There are some actual studies though

[still sinew]

the queues don't work - don't use them - try a diff server

[flat mortar]

Calling it fake is silly. It's as fake as any reconstruction

[proven karma]

Well I was kicked out of the game on my 80% crocodile in a terrible position.

[still sinew]

[flat mortar]

They take the sounds of other animals and 'scale them up' to the size that would fit the target animal

[proven karma]

They seriously need to fix the que system. Half the time it's impossible to actually play the game because you either can't que or when you can que the que doesn't work half the time :/

[still sinew]

agree

[flat mortar]

That's just about how any vocalisation reconstruction is done for most extinct dinosaur species, since we don't have any fossils of vocal tracts of most dinosaur species @latent olive

[latent olive]

okay so uh

randomly making sounds into a microphone and pitch shifting is as accurate as any other potential reconstruction of sound

👍

@sudden tapir is the one with a true grudge for the guy though

[mint gyro]

How so? Can you please send me the proof of that!

[latent olive]

Just tagged the guy with it

[mint gyro]

Because most of his sources actually looked all real

[mint gyro]

Ima check it

[latent olive]

He might be asleep rn though

[flat mortar]

They took sounds of animals. reptiles is what they say.

[mint gyro]

So ur saying that all of the sources and studys the guy says he did is bs and he actually just moaned into his mic and edited it?

[flat mortar]

Anyway, I don't agree with @mint gyro that the game should just get sound from that studiomod guy. Not because i think it's inaccurate (certainly more accurate than JP), but because it'd just again be taking from the work of another.
That's the issue i have with some of Isle's animals right now —they're just complete copies off of JP. Instead of going for a consistent and unique art style, they go for copying from the most popular thing. That's yhe issue i have with it, and tbe solution would be to remake trex, galli, omni, troodon, and other future animals like them, to fit the style of the non-JP animals.

[mint gyro]

Yeah that what i believed to be the case

[limber hull]

(i also just like the isle's sound design more)

[mint gyro]

I said inspiration not just take it from him, that would be completely lazy, i was more inclined into the view of what they did with the Rex or utah where they clearly took inspiratio from the jurassic park movies.

[flat mortar]

That's not "inspiration", that's just plain plagiarism.

[mint gyro]

How so?

[flat mortar]

I'm assuming the only reason there isn't a takedown notice yet is because the game is too small

Because it's literally just JP there's no inspiration there it's just plagiarism

[mint gyro]

Not rlly since they changed it

Actually you might be onto smthing

[limber hull]

there's no plagiarism, at all

all sounds are made in-house

[flat mortar]

I have nothing inherently against plagiarism, it's just that it's so ass that they have several clashing art styles just because "omg im soying it's just like jurassic park!!"

[flat mortar]

I'm not saying that they didn't make it themselves

[urban flax]

You can't copyright sounds either
Except some very specific ones

[mint gyro]

Yes thats what INSPIRATION means

[limber hull]

then its not plagiarism

[flat mortar]

I'm saying i hate the fact that it's a clashing art style

[mint gyro]

Making all dinos in the game just scream like you think they would is just lazy

[flat mortar]

And im using plagiarism to emphasise that it's not original compared to some other animals

[mint gyro]

At least try to change it from other games

[urban flax]

They're making original calls for each dino though
The Isle's dino calls are super recognizable

[flat mortar]

You're insane if you're saying that the omni and trex sounds aren't just copies of JP sounds

[urban flax]

So yeah, omni sounds like a JP raptor, rex sounds like JP rex. Dondi loves Jurassic Park and he shows it. What's wrong with that ? The sounds aren't bad in themselves

[mint gyro]

Still i just think making it more realistic would have a cooler look

[limber hull]

they aren't

they're very clearly INSPIRED

[mint gyro]

Rex is

Omni isnt

[limber hull]

wdym "rex is"

[urban flax]

"Realistic" or "Like StudioMod" ? because that's 2 different things

[limber hull]

both rex and omni are JP inspired

[flat mortar]

Again, my core argument is:
I think it is lazy, unoriginal, and clashes with the other artstyles in the game.

[mint gyro]

The dude allegedly made a STUDY into it he didnt make up the sounds like jp did

What is realistic to you?

[limber hull]

dondi wont change it, because dondi made this game as a loveletter to JP

[mint gyro]

Cause deino calls are 100% cool af

Thats something realistic

[flat mortar]

I didn't ask why they won't change it. I said i have a problem with it. Stop running defense for no reason dude

[mint gyro]

Not rex

Thats just jp

[urban flax]

Most of them are just pitched-down crocodile or bird sounds
realistic would be studying the anatomy of dinos, theorizing what vocal organs they could have had and how they would use it

[mint gyro]

Yes that what he said he did

Did you read the actual studies?

[urban flax]

Also I think we can excuse them being "lazy" in remaking a set of calls for one of their dinos that sound like the ones in JP while every other dino has a fully original audio identity

[limber hull]

The Isle has never once advertised or displayed itself as an accurate game

[urban flax]

I've read studies about dino vocalization
I've watched other videos about how they could have sounded like
None of them really sound like what he does

[limber hull]

its design inconsistencies are literally canon lol

[urban flax]

There's also that

[flat mortar]

I like the hypsi and beipi. Completely unrealistic, not at all representative of what we think they actually looked like, but it's unique and an actual art style.
Just like ark, yeah? Ark has a very identifiable art style, and they stick to it.
I don't mind fantasy creations. I don't mind homages to previous work. I do mind being lazy, having nothing to say, and not having any consistency.

[pure crane]

I for one think dinosaur games should be less realistic. :3

[limber hull]

there is lore that explains why dinos can look anywhere from a carbon copy of the real thing to a completely unreal fictional beast

[urban flax]

And The Isle also has its own style
Which is heavily fictionalized dinos inspired from the knowledge we had of them in the 70s

[flat mortar]

No i will not excuse them. I don't care for lazy art, i care for good art

[mint gyro]

He puts his sources in the descriptions of each video and even talks about a woman that made a full on research on that and had a article on the video.

[limber hull]

its not lazy art though?

[flat mortar]

There's like 3 conflicting styles in the isle

[limber hull]

and thats known and on purpose lol

[urban flax]

Well you may learn reproducing the sound identity of a creature from scratch in order to have it fit into a videogame while still being recognizable is anything but lazy

[limber hull]

that's no mistake, there's a real reason they do that

[flat mortar]

That's lazy. I can copy from ark and say the lore explains it —doesn't make it less lazy, unoriginal, and inconsistent

[urban flax]

Also most of the dino sound studies share a common issue
Is that they assume dinos had no vocal organs

Which we now know is false because of a fairly recent anky fossil find

[mint gyro]

Im like 80% sure they found one with a organ

Like just recently

Read about it somewhere

[flat mortar]

Stop being bad faith. I'm saying that copying off of JP is lazy. I'm talking about sounds, but I'm also just talking in general. I do 3d modelling, texturing, rigging, and animation. I know it's a ton of work. That doesn't make it less lazy and unoriginal to just copy off of another work.

[urban flax]

The point is, you can make a dino sound however you like
Rex could have sounded like a croc, a low rumbling noise, a high-pitched bird or exactly like JP. Any guess is as good as another.

[urban flax]

It may be "lazy" on the conception side"
For everything else it's just an artistic choice

[mint gyro]

"Paleontologists dug up a bone in 2005 that they couldn't identify until recently. The bone is the first example of a larynx in reptilian dinosaurs that paleontologists have ever found"

[flat mortar]

"it's on purpose that they're lazy and copy from other work"
Yeah. If it weren't on purpose then it wouldn't be lazy, becuase it wouldn't be copying.

[mint gyro]

Tbh this all just started because i wanted the quetz to honk instead of screech so yeah yall can just pop off

Im done

[flat mortar]

That is what I'm calling it lazy for yes. The design is lazy, unoriginal, and inconsistent

[urban flax]

So how should they show they love for JP without doing any of that ?

[rare fractal]

I mean that's not hard

[limber hull]

inspiration isn't laziness. if you think it is, that speaks poorly on your creativity

[flat mortar]

By not being lazy. An artist can take inspiration without copying.

For example, see my avatar? I was inspired by landsknechts, and incorporated elements that I identified as being very recognisable for them, without just copying off of an existing work

It's a fantasy creation. Almost nothing about my pfp is realistic, and if you compare side-to side with actual knights or landsknechts, you won't see that it's a copy. But you'll see that it's inspired.

[urban flax]

And in the end it looks nothing like a landsknecht
If you're asked "make a raptor that looks and feels like a JP raptor but is actually original and unique" how would you do it ?

[flat mortar]

That would be lazy and copying.

I don't want them to make a JP animal. That's my issue

I want them to make a The Isle animal.

[urban flax]

You don't choose what people like

[flat mortar]

"it looks nothing like a landsknecht"
I took inspiration by incorporating elements of popular landsknecht designs.

[still sinew]

isn't that the reason they renemed it omniraptor? so they could make a "the Isle Utah" later?

[mint gyro]

Same for you

[flat mortar]

I don't know why you're saying this

[flat mortar]

Yeah and i hope they remove omni or remake it when the isle utan is in the game

[urban flax]

They made omni a JP raptor because they like JP.
I think your issue is just that you don't like its design

[mint gyro]

Bro is just saying he dosent like the fact they made it the same as the jp sound

[still sinew]

Or just keep both. . . because who cares

[limber hull]

they want to make a JP animal, because
1: Dondi loves JP
2: JP-inspired rex/raptor will be immediately marketable

[limber hull]

its not even the same lol

its a different sound

[mint gyro]

How so?

[limber hull]

its LITERALLY a different sound lol

[mint gyro]

How is the omni broadcast different from the jp velociraptor call?

[flat mortar]

You keep being bad faith. I'm telling you what issue I have with it: the fact that it's not a The Isle design, but a JP design.

[urban flax]

In the eyes of people, there's only 2 kinds of raptors

1. Feathered raptors
2. JP clones
   Even if they gave it quills or made a ton of changes to the point of it not even looking like a raptor anymore, it would fall under one of those categories
   Because in the end it's just another raptor design

[mint gyro]

Are you sure you know what they sound like?

[limber hull]

its literally not the same. They SOUND similar, but they are not the same sound

[urban flax]

Compare it to JP raptors, they're not carbon copies
You can clearly see the inspiration, yet it's still an original design

[mint gyro]

And that ok!!!

[flat mortar]

No, I'm saying i don't like it i.e. I don't think it's okay

[mint gyro]

And he says he dosent like it

[mint gyro]

It is because you cant do shiz about it

We cant

[flat mortar]

I can have criticism of a work

[mint gyro]

And ur doing that atm

[limber hull]

okay, but to call it lazy is just wrong though

[mint gyro]

But it wont change anything

[flat mortar]

Yes. I have criticisms of this work.

[mint gyro]

It isnt

[flat mortar]

Who said it would?

[flat mortar]

It is lazy

[limber hull]

the amount of effort that goes into modelling, animating, making audio for and programming the raptor, only for it to be dismissed because "it looks like another raptor" is beyond bizarre

[mint gyro]

Idk these people just talk so much It looks like this is a life or death thing

[limber hull]

it literally is not lazy

[mint gyro]

My g u still havent told me how the jp sound isnt the same as the one ingame

[limber hull]

inspiration isn't lazy, i fail to see how this makes sense to you

any work inspired by another work is now therefor lazy, by this logic

[limber hull]

its made, recorded and designed by a different person through different means

it sounds similar, but that's it

[urban flax]

You can say you hate omni's design because it's ugly
You can say you hate it because it's not realistic
You can say you hate it because you hate JP and it looks too much like it, those are valid points
Saying it's lazy isn't

[urban flax]

Taking references is lazy now

[unreal flicker]

what tf is this deino spawn , ive been running to the closest water source i can smell this whole time and im going to die of dehydration before i even get there, great game

[flat mortar]

I don't know why you keep being so bad faith. I acknowledged just a handful of minutes ago that a lot of work goes into making assets. My issue is with the design. I say that I think they're lazy because I'm talking about the design.

[limber hull]

yep. The Isle should've never existed, it's too inspired, the whole thing is lazy

[mint gyro]

Inspiration becomes lazy the moment you skip steps to the creation of something, is it bad? No. Its ok that they did it because they just wanted to put it in the game, but, its lazy.

[frigid mesa]

He might aswell say deino is lazy since all you need to do is look up sounds of an alligator then boom you have deino sounds

[urban flax]

Your whole contry is lazy af
It's just a ripoff of North America
It shouldn't exist

[flat mortar]

I wrote an example about how I think inspiration is okay. Stop being bad faith please.

[limber hull]

they wanted to put in a JP raptor, they didn't want to "skip" any steps. IRREGARDLESS of any other factor, the point is, they WANTED JP raptor.

[mint gyro]

Damn

[flat mortar]

And that's what I think is lazy.

[limber hull]

They aren't trying to take an easy road by making JP raptor instead of another raptor, they just wanted specifically JP raptor

[flat mortar]

The design is lazy.

[mint gyro]

They didnt want to, BUT THEY DID.

[flat mortar]

Yeah and i think that's lazy.

[limber hull]

If you can make me a cake, but I want the cake from your fridge, and SPECIFICALLY that cake, you aren't lazy for not making me the whole cake, because I didn't want it regardless

I wanted specifically the fridge cake

you aren't lazy for giving me what i asked for

[frigid mesa]

Without that context it is lazy but it isn’t if they wanted a JP raptor

[mint gyro]

Its lazy cause its just the same sound dude, it took no effort to make it. Thats lazy.

[limber hull]

wh-what?

[flat mortar]

You keep being so bad faith, why? I keep telling you exactly what I think.
I don't want them to make a JP raptor, I don't want them to make an Ark raptor, i dont want them to make a prehistoric planet raptor, i dont want them to make any raptor except for one kind —I want them to make a The Isle raptor.

[limber hull]

its LITERALLY its own sound, designed from the ground up with REFERENCE to the original

They didn't RIP the JP call from the movies, they made their own

[mint gyro]

No way you just wh-whated me

[limber hull]

The Isle raptor is the JP raptor. That's what they want

[urban flax]

Good news, there's austro
But it's just yet another feathered raptor, so I assume it's still lazy as we've already seen it a ton of times

[limber hull]

trike is lazy, i've seen trikes that look like that trike many times before

[mint gyro]

Not what he wanted

[flat mortar]

Yeah I'm looking forward to the austroraptor. It reminds me of hypsi and beipi a lot —both of these are fantasy creations, but afaik they're original designs.

[urban flax]

So copying a bird of paradise is original and nice but doing so with JP raptor isn't ?

[flat mortar]

Yes and I'm saying that's lazy

[frigid mesa]

What is original to you?

[limber hull]

and you'd be wrong, because the amount of effort that went into making that raptor is just as significant as every other animal

[mint gyro]

Not making something using things that alr exist, how is that hard for u to understand

[mint gyro]

Not into making the broadcast sound!

It was easier!

[limber hull]

yes into making the broadcast sound

because they had to make it from scratch

[mint gyro]

Because they went the lazy way

[flat mortar]

In this case, developing your own art style instead of one that's just as close to another work without getting a lawsuit

[mint gyro]

True

[limber hull]

in fact, it's harder, because they had to make a sound that resembles an existing sound well, without the same tools and knowledge of the original creator

[flat mortar]

Can you stop being bad faith.

[urban flax]

Recreating an existing sound from scratch is just as hard (if not harder) than creating an original one
Because you need it to sound as close as possible to the reference

[limber hull]

https://tenor.com/view/you-keep-using-that-word-serious-what-you-think-it-means-gif-14679437

[mint gyro]

But it wouldnt be lazy

[urban flax]

I'm starting to think you don't understand the definition of lazy

[mint gyro]

ITS THE SAME SOUND

[limber hull]

it ISN'T

it fundamentally is not the same sound

[mint gyro]

Aint no way bro

[frigid mesa]

I mean you aren’t wrong since the original makers couldn’t find or use the original jp sounds for the Jurassic world movies so yea the devs had to make one from scratch

[mint gyro]

You gaslighting me

[limber hull]

if i recreate the sound of a dog barking, but never record the actual dog, it's not the same sound

[flat mortar]

Right, if you're just gonna be selective about which of my messages to read so that it best suits your fantasy, then I'm not gonna talk to you.

[limber hull]

what?

i've literally read every message you've sent wdym

[mint gyro]

My guy, i cant be more clear than this, the sound of jp and ingame has NO difference

[limber hull]

it literally has lol

[mint gyro]

And IF it does

[limber hull]

i am LITERALLY partially deaf and i can hear them as different

[flat mortar]

Girlbossing

[mint gyro]

Its so little it sounds the same

[limber hull]

i can hear the inspiration, but i know those sounds are not the same

[mint gyro]

😭

[limber hull]

"sounding similar" does not equal "the same"

[mint gyro]

Ok then, im go look at the jp sounds right now to see if ur correct

[limber hull]

sure

[frigid mesa]

Is it wrong for me to say deino is lazy

[limber hull]

yes

unless you're referring to the animal itself

[urban flax]

It literally is
They copied the gator from Real Life

[limber hull]

they even have gator pew sounds for juvi just like irl, it's a clear ripoff

[urban flax]

plagiarism

[limber hull]

just wait till they get a lawsuit from God

[mint gyro]

Its the same dude

[frigid mesa]

I was gonna say that since you have to be literal r word to mess that up

[limber hull]

you can believe that

you'd be wrong, but you can believe that

[mint gyro]

Its the same

[proven karma]

Does anyone know at what % hunger you have to be to be able to get nutrients from food?

[mint gyro]

Its you vs me in this ear battle

[flat mortar]

I am autistic yes

[proven karma]

Just tried at 92% and it didn't work

[mint gyro]

We gotta get more people in this

[limber hull]

who's gaslighting who at this point

[frigid mesa]

I wonder if megalania well also have to be a rip off of real life as well @urban flax what’s your take on this

[mint gyro]

Idk man

[limber hull]

i feel gaslighted, you feel gaslighted

[flat mortar]

That sounds like a bug to me

[urban flax]

We live in a society

[frigid mesa]

So am I but I’m high functioning even tho I’m a bit of a sped sometimes

[mint gyro]

Where people hear the OOOOU sound differently and thats messed up

At this point whats right or wrong tbh

[flat mortar]

Maybe this will help understand my perspective:
Is the isle's raptor and trex in the style of JP, rather than the style of The Isle? If yes, then I consider it lazy.

[frigid mesa]

I mean isn’t the isle just a jp love craft

[pure crane]

Y'all have been at this for a while, can you talk abt gateway or sm?

[mint gyro]

Oh to be a scaly critter just running and screaming all day

[limber hull]

tbh the isle doesn't really have a style as much as it just kinda chooses what it wants best. Galli, for instance, clear JP inspiration

carno is based on realism

[flat mortar]

I don't consider most to be. Just a couple outliers (the most popular dinos)

[limber hull]

tenonto is a third, non-JP, non realistic variant, same with hypsi

[mint gyro]

Realism is the isle style

[frigid mesa]

Don’t forget Ava since it’s an omnivore

[limber hull]

what?

what does omnivore have to do with literally anything lol

[flat mortar]

That's exactly my problem, yeah? There's clashing styles and I don't like that. I want a recognisable the isle style, not a JP fan game.

[mint gyro]

If the game makes the design based on real life then it is its own style

[frigid mesa]

Because it wasn’t an omnivore in real life

[limber hull]

yea well its never been a JP fangame, nor has it been realistic

[limber hull]

we have literally no evidence to support that statement lol

[mint gyro]

Its been looking kinda realistic to me

[flat mortar]

Yeah I'm not agreeing with xuter here, we're not making the same arguments so don't take it as such please.

[frigid mesa]

It’s a dinosaur game can we have a nice Dinosaur game where people don’t complain about everything

[mint gyro]

How can you say the game designs arent realistic

[frigid mesa]

Who am I kidding we can’t it’s the isle the community well always fine something to complain about

[flat mortar]

I'm not sure if you're talking to me but idc about whether they're realistic or not.

[limber hull]

tenonto, beipi, hypsi, dilo, anky, etc

[mint gyro]

Im just asking if im wrong or not

[mint gyro]

Dilo?

[limber hull]

dilo is not realistic, at all

[mint gyro]

Rlly?

[frigid mesa]

Don’t forget spino

[mint gyro]

Why

Dont you dare say venom

[flat mortar]

Tenonto isn't realistic? I assumed it was but maybe that's because i don't know much about the animal. Can you enlighten me?

[mint gyro]

Or poison

Or whatever it is

[mint gyro]

Same

[frigid mesa]

Dilo never had venom it could spit it was just big and I think it was the an apex predator of its region

[limber hull]

its entirely fictionalised to be more "combat capable"

[frigid mesa]

If I’m correct

[mint gyro]

Aw hell nah man

Thats the jp virus again see

[flat mortar]

Ah so you're talking about how it plays?

[frigid mesa]

Even then it does a poor job at it

[mint gyro]

• does it spit the venom ingame?

[normal lotus]

I mean not really, there are strategies to win against what you fight, lot of skill is involved tho.

[limber hull]

no its literally made larger and had its design specifically changed to appear more combat capable. Its tail is mainly whats to note, but it also was given much sharper features

[frigid mesa]

Yea but some if not most players have popo brains

[mint gyro]

What about dilo????

[limber hull]

dilo is designed to be a wrinkly, hairy little goblin creature

[frigid mesa]

The most realistic creature in this game imo is deino and you can’t change my mind

[mint gyro]

Ah

Hairs

Never saw a dilo that looked like my balls

[limber hull]

more than that. Most of its body has been modified

[mint gyro]

Thats new

[flat mortar]

I actually don't mind the dilo too much. It looks old and ugly but i don't think it's a JP copy. I think it takes inspiration.

[frigid mesa]

Hahahaha

[mint gyro]

True

[mint gyro]

Didnt know that

I thought it was the bulky big strong jaw dilo we have ingame

But scrotum dino is a new one for me

[frigid mesa]

But who isn’t surprised that an giant alligator would be most realistic creature in this game

[limber hull]

its not a JP copy, it's style 3, whatever the devs want

[flat mortar]

I don't have problems with copying with the dilo. Afaik it's actually an original rendition. I just personally think it's ugly.
Isn't the version we've seen only the elder variant? Or is that like the regular adult variant.

[mint gyro]

The venom is inspiration

[mint gyro]

Its the regular bro... didnt you see the videos of the devs hunting using him?

Dilo is basically done

[flat mortar]

Maybe the scrawny balls look fits with it though. Supposed to be a horror game after all. Reminds me of a molerat

[normal lotus]

It's more or less elder or senior I guess.

[flat mortar]

Yeah i thought that was the same one as in the dev stream, where i think it was claimed it's the elder variant

[mint gyro]

Damn thats true

You should keep that in mind

For when they start making elders

[flat mortar]

I'm not familiar with the tenontosaurus in particular. Can you send like a reconstruction you think is accurate?

[mint gyro]

I googled some teno pics and all of them looked like the one we have ingame

[flat mortar]

Hypsi but it goes bald

[mint gyro]

Aw hell nah hahahaha

[flat mortar]

My issue was that half the pics you find are from the isle and the isle fan art

[normal lotus]

Here's the difference.

[mint gyro]

Hypsi just goes Elder 100% and all of its feathers just explode out of its body

And leaves it looking like one of those cats

Thats got no hairs

[mint gyro]

Oh true ima go look more into that then

[normal lotus]

So hypsi gets more accurate.

[mint gyro]

Splendid

[mint gyro]

Eh they just said "let there be bulk, and the teno got thick" huh

[flat mortar]

Yeah that's pretty different. Emphasises the combat ability, especially the THICK tail.

[mint gyro]

Not that bad

Original!

[normal lotus]

Teno seems the most unchanged.

[flat mortar]

NOOO

[normal lotus]

Bar maybe dryo

[mint gyro]

Yeah i can see that

[flat mortar]

Dryo and teno have a similar style I think

[mint gyro]

I think its ok to show someone a cat and tell them to draw one on their style

I think that kinda what they did there with teno

[normal lotus]

Fair

[mint gyro]

But lazy copy is a no no

No copy

At all

Total copy death

[rare fractal]

I mean, that's what they did with carno

Carno is literally just a basic carno

Don't see any issue with it tho

[mint gyro]

Glad to see we didnt rip each other to shreads

[flat mortar]

Yeah i like that

[mint gyro]

This was nice

I like this

[flat mortar]

And that's what i mean, right? There's conflicting styles and i wish they just stuck to one

[mint gyro]

Will start beef again some other time

[normal lotus]

Bar some chonk, and a wider snoot.

[flat mortar]

The pteranodon is just wacky though idk what they were smoking with that obe

[mint gyro]

Whats up with him

[normal lotus]

The skimming niche.

[mint gyro]

Havent looked at ptera enough

[mint gyro]

Hm

Yeah i can see that

[rare fractal]

Also it's sprinting takeoff is embarassing

[normal lotus]

I liked the bug that made it impossible to take off that way

[rare fractal]

That was a good time

Its also just super inefficient for stam and takes longer

There's actually zero benefit for using it and it looks terrible

It almost seems like the ability is just an inside joke

[mint gyro]

Bruh the original one looks so much better

[normal lotus]

It probably is.

[mint gyro]

I want furry a ptera

[normal lotus]

Also quetzal

[mint gyro]

Not the naked baby bird looking one we have

Man if they dont put fur on the quetz ima be sad

[normal lotus]

They don't in the concept.

[flat mortar]

See I don't understand why they wouldn't just take an animal that wasn't a soarer

[mint gyro]

: (

[normal lotus]

I honestly don't mind it with our quetzal.

[flat mortar]

I hate it they look so ugly without fur

[mint gyro]

Idk i think the light brown quetz is so iconic man

[normal lotus]

I honestly like it.

[rare fractal]

I don't mind

Our quetz is way stockier, like it's torso is almost double the length

[normal lotus]

Just make its skin light brown with the skin editor.

[mint gyro]

Brown fur yellow beak is cool for mee

[mint gyro]

Its not the same

[normal lotus]

Also our deinocheirus vs irl deinocheirus

[flat mortar]

White yellow beak 🐦

[mint gyro]

F off man

They butchered him

[normal lotus]

Our cheirus has feathers dude it's good.

Would you rather have the 90s design?

[flat mortar]

I do think the snout is very isle-like, but idk why they wouldn't do feathers. Hypsi and beipi have feathers

[mint gyro]

It got feathers just to say it has

[flat mortar]

It does?

[normal lotus]

It does have feathers, they're just kind hard to spot.

[mint gyro]

They need to look furryyyyy

[flat mortar]

Can we get an image of tbe actual concept or model?

[mint gyro]

Not like a skin

[normal lotus]

Isle Deinocheirus has more feathers than the one made in the photo dude.

[mint gyro]

If this was colored the impact would be much larger

[mint gyro]

Thats cap

[mint gyro]

If it looks like this

Then im ok with it

But idk found this in some stupid video

[flat mortar]

aight nvm this is 100% the isle's style i like this

[normal lotus]

As much as I like the duck deinocheirus, I could honestly care less if it has less plumage

[mint gyro]

I do

Its just a must bro

[normal lotus]

Well they already made the model, so can't do crap.

[mint gyro]

Oh yeah this is much better to see

Nah we good

Deinocherios on top

We making out the swamps with that one

Its all good

[flat mortar]

yeah see i wished the pteranodon also had feathers similar to this right. it just kinda looks out of place im not sure what it's supposed to be. at the very least if they didn't want an ocean soarer, they could've taken a different pterosaur

they took like niche dinos for hypsi and beipi

[rare fractal]

My biggest issue with isle ptera isn't the lack of feathers. It's that isle ptera looks ridiculous flying and running with the amount of muscle it has on it's arms and chest. Like it's so pathetically thinly proportioned

[mint gyro]

Fax

[normal lotus]

I love the pachyrhino design

[flat mortar]

that skin reminds me of some japanese mail and plate armour

[normal lotus]

Also that boss be thick.

[mint gyro]

Thats stupid

This image makes me angry

How did this thing atack

It looks stoned

[normal lotus]

It SMACK ya with that big ol boss and break your bones.

Hopefully.

[mint gyro]

I would slap that tumor on its beak

[normal lotus]

It will break your ribs

[mint gyro]

Ima break its spirit

Ugly aah dino

[flat mortar]

@dim raptor
#general-feedback message
I think you could achieve this through echo, instead of redesigning the sounds, right? like im pretty sure arma has a system where sounds will echo through valleys and such.
they have raytracing in the isle already, i think it'd be cool if they added an approximation that gives similar effects of audio wave simulations. I think microsoft already has a system for UE that does this?

[normal lotus]

You just mad that it can smoke Alberto

Probably

[mint gyro]

💀

[mint gyro]

Can he beat Rex?🤨😏

[normal lotus]

If groups can punch up like diablo can in groups? Probably so.

[mint gyro]

[flat mortar]

here something like this. dont know if they could use this exact system, given the size of the maps, but they could definitely design something similar that also doesn't break the cpu. doesn't have to be 100% accurate, it just has to give some of the effects of sound propagation
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/gaming/acoustics/what-is-acoustics

[normal lotus]

Definitely gonna be a casualty on the pachyrhino side.

But rex do fracture, so do pachyrhino.

[mint gyro]

Pog

[sudden tapir]

[mint gyro]

If ur gonna explain all that fuss do it rlly easy cause tbh idc anymore

Or dont

Idc anymore

[sudden tapir]

I've talked about it so many times that I don't really want to bother, if you want to seek pit the evidence against the guy, you can find it easily.

I'm not gonna force it down your throat.

[mint gyro]

Is it a underground thing or is it just not rlly well known?

Cause i tried looking for it a couldnt find much

But ig i can look at ur past msgs

Holy moly you talk too much

Holy moly you talk way too much

You havent even been here an year

How can you talk this much

[normal lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-online-elite-dangerous-player-borann-boys-elite-dangerous-gif-21298092

I'm not one to talk I'm at 23k messages

[sudden tapir]

I've been around a lot longer than a year lol

Just got unbanned so it looks like less than a year.

[sudden tapir]

Not really generally well known or talked about much.

It's mainly just a matter of thr dude completely lying about the background of the videos, and just pulling and making random ass sounds and calling it a vocalization study.

There is no real documentation, source, credits, or... evidence provided for any of the sounds. And several of the calls and noises are just taken from various modern birds, or his own voice in a recording, just pitched down or modified.

[mint gyro]

What about the sources he puts in the descriptions... are they all fake too?

[limber hull]

me watching the raptor pack scream the moment i enter a 500m radius of them (they have entered fury mode)
#general-feedback message

[mint gyro]

Me and my 3 friends playing as human after we recieved a raptor scream. From point blank in a building(it ruptured our eardrums and the blast sent us flying)(he was at 500% fury)

[flat mortar]

Incorporating screaming into a mechanic might be cool for some dinos but i would only give it to some, not to all

[mint gyro]

True add the kamehameha also since ur at it

[flat mortar]

Don't the troodons have screaming in one of their mechanics?

[mint gyro]

It dosent give an advantage

It just to show when the venom is in effect

Its necessary

[flat mortar]

Yes

[mint gyro]

Raptor berserker mode is fan Boying too hard on them

[flat mortar]

I was talking about screaming in general

[mint gyro]

Ok sure

Make an argument on that

And we can start talking

[limber hull]

only galli

[mint gyro]

But that raptor thing was crazy

[mint gyro]

True

Galli has the speed thing

[flat mortar]

Oh yeah galli also has screaming in a mechanic

[limber hull]

troodon makes a call when venom stages are reached, but it doesn't have to call to do anything

[mint gyro]

I forgor

[normal lotus]

Galli scream to go faster, I'm that

[mint gyro]

You are huh

[latent olive]

it can 1 call to declare to the victim that its a hunt so that they arent able to call admins on them for kosing

[limber hull]

i adore raptor fanboys making suggestions to overbuff their fave animals tho lol

[latent olive]

mr. utah (goku niche)

[mint gyro]

Lol

[limber hull]

give raptor a kaioken state where it reduces stam and health but does 50% more damage

[latent olive]

the isle primal carnage edition

[flat mortar]

I love dino brawling in my survival game

[latent olive]

i love dino balling in my basketball game

[mint gyro]

@bleak granite they beating yo ass in general-feedback-discussion

Omg he joined the server yesterday

Thats cute

That was his first message

I love him

NOOOOOOOOO

He left

[flat ruin]

Rip

[proud turtle]

How I can join the queue on Gateway EU servers? It says "server is full" or I can't tap the button what enter me into game

[mint gyro]

Maybe server is full

Maybe you wait

[proud turtle]

orly?

[flat ruin]

Don't think there's a queue for gateway servers?

Never worked fir me anyways

[mint gyro]

Yeah

Same

If its 100/100 it never put me in queue

[proud turtle]

so I did it XD

and I don't know how

[limpid nexus]

can i heal leg fractures or not?

was trying to learn mechanics, latched to a tree then fell off lol

damn rip ok

i was doing so well too 😭

[noble verge]

in gateway eu3 i can not find any other diet food beside the S diet is this a bug some one else has the same problem ?

pachy btw

[limpid nexus]

how do i find the server i was playing on again?

found it

[noble verge]

common sense bud

[limpid nexus]

tell me what?

ahh ok hahaha

[noble verge]

that u can just remember what server u where playing

[mint gyro]

Wtf

[limpid nexus]

yeah im brand new...

[mint gyro]

To life?

Or having a memory?

Cause i think those come after age 2

[proud turtle]

the game still crashed after 5 minutes

[mint gyro]

Damn lol

[proud turtle]

94/100 and "server is full" :C

[limpid nexus]

why are y'all being rude

[pure crane]

Unfortunately, that's the culture. It takes a bit to find a nice little group, but there are some hidden gems here and there.

[limpid nexus]

:\

[pure crane]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[north quiver]

those two people are new to the server it looks like. either children that think they’re being funny or trolls

or both

[pure crane]

Sometimes people have genuine questions and just aren't used to the environment. Personally, I try not to assume bad faith without prior context, yk?

I know I've had my fair share of asking questions that seem self explanatory, but that's why folks seek out communities; to get direct and accurate answers, not to be berated for ignorance.

[normal lotus]

Don't be rude my man, That ain't cool.

[limpid nexus]

Yeah, i literally just got the game and was having a hard time figuring it out.

idk why those types of people think theyre funny, but theyre not

[normal lotus]

It's alright. I'd be willing to help if ya need it.

[limpid nexus]

tysm!

[pure crane]

Unfortunately, without a proper tutorial, The Isle forces new players to learn from the community, whether it's in game or via community curated guides.

[limpid nexus]

im just learning mechanics, ive had a couple lives so far

[knotty tangle]

Those people are here for months/years and have seen the same questions every day.
They are likely just jaded and trying to figure out why the same questions get asked over and over, when discord does have a search function.

[pure crane]

IMO those selfsame people owe it to themselves to take a break if it's causing them to jump to conclusions and aggression. They aren't obligated to answer /every/ question or help /every/ person.

[mint gyro]

It was a genuine question

[normal lotus]

I have a suggestion. Play as the herbivores first, notably the runners like gallimimus, or beipi. There you will learn the basic mechanics of survival, keeping track of food, water, stamina, and learning that it's best to run if you can help it when you fight.

[pure crane]

^

[limpid nexus]

thank you! ill try that next, atm im trying the flying one, i forgot the name

[normal lotus]

Said question that would be considered rude perhaps even douchey.

[north quiver]

mans literally joined a couple weeks ago and just last month

[mint gyro]

Srry if you felt like that.

[normal lotus]

Ptera has the highest survivability if you play right.

[limpid nexus]

so far its really good, so long as i stop crashing to my death lmao

[pure crane]

Beipi is fun for getting to know waterways and [relatively] safe exploration.

[mint gyro]

Oh nvm i was in the wrong, i completely missread what they said

[normal lotus]

If I may, I suggest getting nested if you can for pteranodon. Those that nest tend to be the most kind in terms of teaching.

[normal lotus]

It alright, we all make mistakes glad you owned up to yours

[mint gyro]

Game can be hard when theres 0 tutorials

[pure crane]

UI isn't exactly newbie friendly either. Esp with the latest lack of health bar.

[mint gyro]

I know exactly how hard it is since i had to spend a whole day to just seeing videos on how to play

[north quiver]

being nested in as teno is also a good way to learn from other players. ptera might be a little hard to get the hang of for food and flight

[mint gyro]

True

Hope they add some sort of Ui on how each mechanic works

[limpid nexus]

what does getting nested mean? is that in game or as in find someone to play the same dino together

[normal lotus]

Yea it's learning curve a little steep. But once you learn how to skim and get the basics of flight your survivability soars. Pun intended.

[mint gyro]

Cause the bigger the game gets the worse itll get for new players

[pure crane]

Getting nested is joining a group in game via the egg/nesting menu.
You'll start off as a hatchling in a nest. You rely on your parents to feed you until you reach juvenile.

[normal lotus]

Essentially there's a little box on the character select screen that says eggs, sometimes people make nests that you can spawn into.

[limpid nexus]

omg!! i didnt know that was a feature that sounds amazing

how cute

[pure crane]

From there, since you don't /need/ your parents for food, you're free to either explore on your own and leave the group, or stick together.

[normal lotus]

It is a nice feature, albeit its in the early workings and may require incentive to use it.

[pure crane]

There's power in numbers, of course. Though some don't enjoy grouping with randos, and like I said there's people who sometimes would rather ruin the game for others.

[north quiver]

a lot of people used to nest before the dreaded addition of the 100% diet cap and ai attacking nests lol

especially on teno

[pure crane]

Another feature of nesting is that your skin is a random mix of your parents. [?]

[north quiver]

yes. clones of parent colors seems to be common though

[pure crane]

I've had a full beipi nest with an.. abhorrent mix of colors.

[normal lotus]

Honestly pteras are probably the easiest to be nested in as and to nest themselves.

[pure crane]

How does ptera play with the new stam?

[normal lotus]

With their ability to cross the map with ease for diets, nest in spots unreachable to most if not all (bar Herrera which isn't in yet)

[limpid nexus]

ah ok

[limber hull]

you literally listed off two non-herbis lol

[limpid nexus]

ill try nest with someone one day

[normal lotus]

We dunno yet, but hopefully they give it much more stamina, or at least good spots to make pit stops.

[north quiver]

reminds me when I nested with someone and apparently the game decided to cheat on my nesting partner and pair them with someone named “rex” that didn’t share my colors at all

[normal lotus]

I see galli as a "herbi"

[limber hull]

i see you as WRONG

:(

[normal lotus]

True, the omnivores and ptera are the most survivable

[pure crane]

I think one could safely assume that the difference between carni and herbi is moreso playstyle than diet.

[limber hull]

Well a bit of both

[pure crane]

Carni generally has to prey on other players, making it offensive.
Herbis are usually defensive considering their goal mainly to survive.

Maybe it'd be easier to just say, Carni needs player meat [usually] to survive, where as Herbis don't.

[limpid nexus]

aww i tried approaching another ptenarodon but they killed me for some reason

[limber hull]

also some people just dont vibe with the PvP playstyle, which is chill too, its why animals like dryo, hypsi, ptera and galli exist

[limber hull]

the isle moment

[pure crane]

Beipi too!

[limpid nexus]

i thought we could start a family or group or something

[limber hull]

sometimes people are nice. sometimes they are not

[limpid nexus]

😂

[pure crane]

I enjoy PVE and relaxed play, so carni's aren't on my playlist =w=

[limber hull]

thats fair

i wish the non-PvP animals got more love

only one that feels super complete is beipi

[pure crane]

Same. Unfortunately dinosaur games seem to attract a certain audience that needs constant action, meat, big scary teeth jaws and whatnot.

[limber hull]

i mean, i'm still excited for the planned changes to dryo and hypsi

namely, dryo's burrowing and hypsi's climbing

[pure crane]

I haven't seen much about it! I'm looking forward to it though. c:

[gentle flint]

@rare wasp are you on gateway or just in general?

[mint gyro]

Woah just like me...

Thats deep

[rare wasp]

gateway

[mint gyro]

@normal lotus dont you think it would be easier to just add the plants outside of the migration zone?

[rare wasp]

the new stam system idk who came up with it but it takes 4 minutes laying down as a troodon to regain your stam

[mint gyro]

But with lower spawn rate

[gentle flint]

It’s not just as a troodon, that’s for all dinos now unfortunately (some take even longer)

[rare wasp]

also chickens make pig noises lol when taking damage

[mint gyro]

Rlly?

[gentle flint]

XD

[mint gyro]

Thats funny lol

[gentle flint]

Some people requested and enjoy it unfortunately

[rare wasp]

no way

[gentle flint]

I’m not personally one of them, I think it just promotes me to sit around and never move lmao, but yeah

[rare wasp]

id sooner believe a unified america under stalin than believe some people actually enjoy this new stam system lol

[limber hull]

hi i enjoy it

[rare wasp]

but why what about it is enjoyable?

and better than the last stam system

[limber hull]

i like the more realistic approach and the focus on trot, and my main issues with it (trot too slow, some attacks take too much stam) are both being addressed

i didnt like the constant sprint everywhere then rest, i felt it to be lame and unnatural

[rare wasp]

oof well for your sake and the games sake i hope majority of people will enjoy bc atm im done with it till they tweak it

[limber hull]

i also like how stamina duration is increased across the board

sprints always felt too short

i like longer sprints for longer rests than shorter sprints

[low vapor]

I suggested a jog. Right now, we have walk and trot. But if we had jog as a gait between trot and sprint, it could work as a better alternative to what gateway has now. Jog could neither gain or drain stam. But I dunno, whatever works. I really dont like the stam system introduced in the ST.

[limber hull]

i dont agree with a jog tbh

thats a ton more animations

also far more confusing controls

[rare wasp]

lol adds 1 button for jog too confusing XD

[limber hull]

i mean

we have

• walking
• trotting
• sprinting
• crouching
• swimming
• fast swimnming

and other species-specific movements

do we REALLY need a new universal movement type

[low vapor]

I've seen games using jog and it works pretty well. You could simply activate it just by simply tapping shift or something else. Nothing complex. I've played games using it and it's never bothered me.

[rare wasp]

you dont press buttons for half of those only walking and trotting

[limber hull]

also neither gaining nor draining stam is essentially what trot is

[low vapor]

Yes but trot is too slow. Jog is a faster alternative

[icy lion]

Just increase trot speeds, then

[limber hull]

they said trot's getting a speed boost, and i'd rather that to an additional movement mechanic

[latent olive]

The new stam system needs some tweaking and slight changes

But I think it’s better for the game in a sense

Over the years, stamina was nothing more than an extra system, that no one cared about. Out of stam? just press H and you’ll be fine

Now that we are going the ACTUAL survival route, stamina is making its way into being a properly important system for the player

Before, you just held shift everywhere because it was the fastest way to get right to the action

Now, you actually have to consider a slower approach to the game, with stamina being important

[limber hull]

genuinely been enjoying the game more with the more survival-oriented changes tbh

health bar removal and stam changes genuinely make me like the game more lol

[latent olive]

Realistically, animals are not sprinting at all times because it’s an absurdly huge amount of energy wasted

[low vapor]

But then what happens to z walk? Will it stay the same speed or not? If trot is gonna be faster, so should walk. Otherwise it's strange to just go from a fairly fast paced trot to an incredibly careful and slow walk

[rare wasp]

yea but considering map size its doo doo might as well shrink the map 50-70% with how bad it is atm i sooner starve when born than anythijng bc i constantly have to sit down and afk for 4 minutes every 3 minutes of running

[latent olive]

how about uhhhh

trot (when the speeds get adjusted) and enjoy the map

[limber hull]

then reduce starvation times, they're already too fast for most creatures (besides deino who honestly has a decent hunger drain)

[icy lion]

Imo walks also need to be increased. Right now they're all about the same as crouching (on applicable species) which feels way too slow

They don't need to be fast by any means, just faster than crouching

[latent olive]

Yeah walking hasn’t been scaled with the stamina change, and I’m pretty sure hypno confirmed the speeds are all getting changed

[rare wasp]

i would love to enjoy the map if i wasnt dying to starvation due to the fact i cant find food and have to take a break every 3 minutes for 4 minutes might aswell play a herbi and afk holding e till full grown

[limber hull]

yea

[limber hull]

i mean, why not play a herbi lol

[low vapor]

I suggested jog though because I want to have more control over how fast we're going as well. I can assure you being able to activate said jog isn't difficult. You can simply tap shift for example to enter jog and hold shift for sprint. But whatever works. I'm fine with this too, but I'd rather have a jog given the choice

[limber hull]

then you remove toggle sprint, which people like

[rare wasp]

honestly real question is why even play this game at its current state (not talking about gateway stam only but everything in general)

[limber hull]

new map is legitimately fun to explore and engage with?

[low vapor]

I personally never liked it since it would make me accidentally run over cliffs. Simply not used to it. Whatever it is, it doesn't need to complicated. Just another button

[rare wasp]

to you* ive seen majority complaints except for a few extremist realists

[limber hull]

people are used to the deathmatch style, of course a radical change like this won't fly nicely with them

[latent olive]

oh yeah superlonary while you’re here, thoughts on the omniraptor OC screaming at the sky to get a damage buff against the dreadful herbivore bias players

[limber hull]

like people still haven't figured out that sprint > rest > sprint > rest is now generally less effective than just

trot

[latent olive]

#general-feedback message

[gentle flint]

I mean Gateway is nice in general, I think especially in terms of water engagement. Even as a deino I find the map highly more enjoyable in that regard.

[rare wasp]

well for the games sake i hope people adapt and learn to enjoy something less fun because majority of my friends have already moved on to other games with no intention of giving the isle another chance :/ which sucks bc half of this game is enjoying it with other people

[latent olive]

alternatively, just walk a small distance, gather some stamina back, go back to trotting

[low vapor]

Also, if people will need to use sprint far less, I don't think removing toggle sprint and replacing it for a jog will be drastic. It'll help enforce using less sprint with a jog instead.

[icy lion]

I definitely had one or two

[latent olive]

[low vapor]

Also sorry if my grammar or english is off I'm a bit tired

[latent olive]

unforgiven, you will be fed to the AFK deinosuchus player

[normal lotus]

That causes migration to not be required. Migration is required, but you can keep yourself at the very least not hungry with what I suggest.

@distant tinsel iirc they also don't want people to all be playing ptera, if you wanna play ptera I suggest waiting for the true release of gateway.

[distant tinsel]

they want us to explore the map tho, just painfully :p

[normal lotus]

They want us to TEST the map via exploring on the ground.

When you fly you won't find bugs that clip you into buildings. Or fall through the map. At the very least it's not as common.

@cold minnow I would say yes and no. Bring back stun, but only on initial fractures. Essentially you only get 3 stuns before you gotta book it.

Which is kinda supposed to be the match-up between carno and pachy. Pachy stuns and fractures carno then runs the hell away.

[cold minnow]

@normal lotus seems fair enough

[normal lotus]

It would be quite rare for a pachy to kill a carno, besides with regen rates for fractures the carno is gonna be hurting for a long time.

[wild bear]

Just me or should there be an option to sleep(such as at night) without logging?

I can’t think how they would do it though

[cold minnow]

@normal lotus thats what pachy should've been, break a someones leg and run but right now you get stunned by your own attack and die in 2-3 hits from carno

[normal lotus]

I would say no. Unless perhaps lowering food water drain rate along with growth to an absolute crawl.

[wild bear]

I think it should probably be be available only during night or something idk

[limber hull]

i love the idea of sleeping personally

[normal lotus]

Probably, but also reminder that this promotes afk which is kinda cringe ngl. With some species, specifically those that can afford it. Like deino and Herrera. It'd be much more viable

[wild bear]

Yeah, that’s true. I forgot how much ppl hate afkers

Me being one of them

[normal lotus]

True, but if you just have growth be an absolute crawl. (Like .6 per minute in a troodon.) Essentially you dont grow at all when sleeping.

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
i love how this man still has the source of "i made it up lol" when it comes to his image

[normal lotus]

But in exchange you can spend some of the night asleep with a very slow drain rate.

[wild bear]

I feel like it should slow growth down a bit but not so much that people literally never sleep

[normal lotus]

Imo your reason to sleep is to conserve hunger and water, not growth.

[wild bear]

Yes

[wild bear]

Fr only hotspots I know of are at the exact highland center of the map and the NE lake

[limber hull]

if you look closely, he made his "heatmap" in MS paint

[wild bear]

Bro just put random dots everywhere

[limber hull]

bro is onto nothing

[wild bear]

I was on yesterday and there was probably around 15 dinos just at the NE lake. He’s just making gateway look like it COMPLETELY isolates players, which it kinda doesn’t

I support that the server amount should be at least around 150 players

[urban bear]

Bro forgot migrations existed

[limber hull]

oh i am a fan of more players, just not of making stuff up to prove a point

[urban bear]

let me spam some yellow dots on the map and call it a day

[slim stone]

Is anyone else having an issue with the fog being brown/turning everything into shades of sepia all the time- even when others don't see fog? It's impossible to see and throws everything into shadows even in broad daylight

[icy lion]

I believe that may be an issue with ambient occlusion, try changing it

[slim stone]

It is off, I tried that first

[limber hull]

i am having the most bizarre issue with Gateway lol

i have changed EVERY setting, and it's always 30 frames, it can be the best or worst settings and it still runs like ass lol

[lavish galleon]

Anybody hunted as an omni pack yet? i’m curious to how the interaction is with the stam and buck changes

[wintry cipher]

Seems to feel pretty good if you pick your battles wisely. Your not going to have the stam to go after a whole stego herd. Just 2 of us were able to wallop a lone carno and chase it and its baby off some food tho

I was about half stam at the end of it, ate, hid, then rinse and repeat

[lavish galleon]

you bled him down with pounces exclusively or got bites in too?

[opaque inlet]

Maybe sleeping could give increased Stam regen or hp regen but would take 60 seconds until it had those effects and would have a long get up animation so you could be ambushed in your sleep (Don't sleep in combat!)

[wintry cipher]

Sleep logs you out

[wintry cipher]

Pounce

[limber hull]

this is a hypothetical

[proud turtle]

<@&505047238674874368> I'm stuck here

coordinates, this is waterfall and it have a hole XD

[grave fulcrum]

same happened to me

[icy lion]

You can report the coords in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞, anc check the pinned messages in #evrima-eu to see how request assistance

[proud turtle]

thx

[grave fulcrum]

me too. I mean it could be just visual and I would be fine with it. Kind of like dino emotes u know? Seeing some dinos rest, others sleep would be immersive and nice to watch

[floral storm]

I do like what someone else suggested, having the log out button appear after sleeping for a bit. Maybe once you sleep, a log out button would appear, and that button would start the log out timer.

[hidden mist]

#general-feedback message the problem is that some places where you can get stuck put you into endless falling. Probably the game should also recognize such cases itself. E.g. if player falls 1 minute straight, lol, Idk

[lethal quartz]

man I'm actually shocked people are voting against a server population increase - do they not realize this is going to be extremely problematic once humans and more playables are added down the line?

[urban flax]

On the contrary
They realize an increase in players slots is also going to cause more desync, lag and rubberbanding

[lethal quartz]

true, but it feels like a server increase is going to be an inevitability in the future either way