#isle-lore-theories

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OK, thanks a lot. Can anyone shed some light about that stream? Would be very much appreciated. 🙂

icy onyx
tribal mirage
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mfw there wasn't a stream about the secret

icy onyx
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Well not about the thing itself but it was discussed during a stream

tribal mirage
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it wasn't. someone asked amarok 1 question about it and he said nothing bout it

icy onyx
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Yeah but I’m pretty sure they said something once saying it wasn’t any of those things I listed

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@icy onyx what makes you so sure? Please check you memories about where you got this from:

  • was it from #401464048610312195 channel or during a streamed session on twitch or some let's play video on youtube or other platform?
  • who said / dis-confirmed these things? A dev? What is her/his name?
    @tribal mirage How do you know you didn't miss that said stream?
tribal mirage
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cause the roadmap literally came out during the whole stream drought. ive seen all the most recent amarok streams and hes said nothing about it. also yes what we know of so far is from punch in isle discussion

icy onyx
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Hello

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isle lore theory: dondi doesnt know the full lore of his game and instead just has a handful of cool ideas that could go together in some way, and he only reveals a few of them to convince his community that theres "deep lore" but its actually just 'mutated dinosaur look cool', so his brainwashed community says 'dondi is the only one who knows the full lore of the game' when its right in front of their faces that clearly the lore is inconsistent and changes all the time, instead whats happening is his community is theorizing and piecing 'the story' together, convinced they're unlocking secrets for some deep, complicated lore, but the community is just convincing themselves that they know the "full lore" of the game, and not dondi, basically doing the lore-building themselves. (which is whats been happening for 4 years), and why this channel exists

thorny scaffold
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mega iq ^^

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@ionic badge let me guess you came here from r/theisle?

ionic badge
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ive only been on reddit 2 times in my entire life and neither of those times were spent on r/theisle

icy onyx
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Lore's inconsistent mainly because it isn't the focus rn

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this is just what ive seen over the years, there are websites where all the 'lore' is compiled by fans of this game and even they cant really explain the inconsistencies. The employees (but mostly the community) say "only dondi knows the full lore", which to me just means there isnt any 'full lore' or any 'complete story' and dondi just has a handful of cool ideas in his head and hasnt actually written down anything. its hard to believe that only the creator of the game, who doesnt even make the models for buildings or the creatures, doesnt tell his employees the lore behind what theyre making. It would be like "make mutant versions of these dinosaurs" and then he gives them a theme to go by (hypo, neuro) and thats it. the ideas are cool, not gonna lie, but the lore makes no sense

icy onyx
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Tbf, what would even be the point of actually making up some highly complex lore and putting it in the game when the game's not exactly yknow... fully done. Or at least mostly done

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I agree, i think the lore should be set up in the far future, maybe when they have at least the dinosaurs finished. I just cannot believe that dondi has some sort of multi-stage, longterm plan for the lore in this game

icy onyx
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yup, imo best time for lore to be actively put out would be when mercs would be implemented as humans would have access to stuff like labs, etc

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tbh you make some good points glow

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yeah but unfortunately at this rate i dont know if the majority of the community is even going to want humans in this game, theres a lot of people who only want dinosaurs now and looking back at how insane the 'lore' gets with the hypo colossus and cannibals, and the dev team will be like "this was always the plan" but its not gonna happen for another few years at least.

thorny scaffold
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I agree with glowsquidward ngl

ionic badge
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oh i thought you were being sarcastic earlier when you said 'mega iq' haha

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I mean yeah, all the lore we know of is super cool and I think it could be really neat if it's implemented in game, but I agree it's likely just a conglomeration of loose ideas and not a fully flushed out story

ionic badge
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exactly

neon bloom
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ok

celest marten
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👀

tribal mirage
celest marten
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shhhh fulgore

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maybe there is a plan with the lore GWloopyBlobShrug
just speculation

tribal mirage
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i know FeelsBadMan

slow delta
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isle lore theory: dondi doesnt know the full lore of his game and instead just has a handful of cool ideas that could go together in some way, and he only reveals a few of them to convince his community that theres "deep lore" but its actually just 'mutated dinosaur look cool', so his brainwashed community says 'dondi is the only one who knows the full lore of the game' when its right in front of their faces that clearly the lore is inconsistent and changes all the time, instead whats happening is his community is theorizing and piecing 'the story' together, convinced they're unlocking secrets for some deep, complicated lore, but the community is just convincing themselves that they know the "full lore" of the game, and not dondi, basically doing the lore-building themselves. (which is whats been happening for 4 years), and why this channel exists
@ionic badge completely agree tbh

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which is one of the reasons why our doc doesnt focus on speculation but simply solving the riddles we're given from time to time. it's fun.

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yeah its great fun for the community, nothing wrong with that, a lot of cool ideas were thrown around and the community does a good job at finding ways to put them together, but case and point is, Dondi does not have a fully flushed-out story or plan for the lore. Kind of ironic I guess

slow delta
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the lore is pretty much a rough outline of: "jurassic park but darker" which is rather underwhelming cause they can do so much more with it

high heath
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Well...the books of Jurassic Park and The Lost World are dark. The Isle is more "Dinos and Mutants", so like Uncharted 1 mixed with Primal Carnage/Jurassic Park.

icy onyx
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I do think that lore should not really be a focus until most stuff is complete but my only fear is how long is the isle going to stay relevant to other games, people might just move onto other games in like a year or two

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people have been moving on to other games since 2016, the original community is almost completely gone. thats what happens when the development is so slow and the game is nowhere near to what its supposed to be

slow delta
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Well since dondi is apparently not working on maps or anything for the isle, he could work on the lore

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yeah, he could, but i think we all now he wont

thorny scaffold
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😔

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Coming back to the "Top Secret" road map item once more:
1.: I have to apologize for the noise in this channel - that TS road map item is not related to lore - I did some more research and found that Punchpacket confirmed that in #401464048610312195
2.: someone might have found that already but just for completeness: the trailer used for that TS road map item is a cut & paste from the Hope trailer:

Top Secret trailer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724315975369097286/751529692405825547/AE_Top_Secret.mp4
Hope trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwRqaRG2Zo

  • At the end of the Hope trailer you can see the very same background gimmicks as seen in the Top Secret trailer - same HEX, same bits, same message, etc. at the end it shortly overlays the Phoenix Intl. Logo full screen instead of just overlaying the globe on the bottom left.

So as of today I am sure there is no hidden information in that trailer in regards to what the TS road map item is about. Devs just recycled this video sequence, so they have a fancy looking placeholder for that TS roadmap item.

Other than that and as I mentioned I have done some more research about the Top Secret road map item.
If no one has objections I would still continue to share my findings about the TS road map item in this channel - #isle-dicussion is just too noisy and not focused on any specific topic. This channel appears to be more appropriate.

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Credits are inline as far as I could keep track. But I want to mention @icy onyx & @tribal mirage upfront for pointing me in the right direction. Thanks folks!
Ping @twilit lotus

Based on the directions by Salty & Ghoulgore I searched the #401464048610312195 channel for any "official" statement from the devs about the Top Secret roadmap item. It turns out Punchpacket was the only dev who ever made any statement on that - as far as I can tell. If anyone else finds more, then please share!

So the below list is a summary of folks asking question and poking around the Top Secret roadmap item and #punch giving answers, (dis)confirmation etc.

A full copy of all original related comments is attached to my next comment - again, I might have missed stuff, so please chime in if you know anything additional.

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Ruled out (in order of appearance in the #401464048610312195 channel):

  • fall damage
  • lore
  • strains
  • female textures
  • tribals / mercs
  • mechanic (like nesting or fishing)
  • dinosaur
  • Spero (MAP)

damn, this one was sooo close:
https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Isla_Spero
https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/376210/view/2227537053568411302 (read the section right after "Director - Don - Dondi")

  • announced for mid/late 2020, would just fit perfectly
  • also #Punch said they are hiring a mapper (18.09.2020 #401464048610312195) - not sure whether this actually happened, can anyone confirm?
  • Spiro (MAP)
  • new teaser video
The Isle Wiki

Isla Spero | The Isle Wiki | Fandom

Isle DevBlog #1 Survivors? Islanders? What even do we call all of you at this point, something to consider for the future as we do more of these Dev Blogs. We’ve been watching Discord, Reddit and the commentary on many of the content creators’ videos, streams, and even our own...

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Not yet ruled out (stuff folks asked which got neither confirmed nor dis-confirmed):

  • salt licks (diet)
  • diet
  • map expansion

Confirmed:

  • question marks in the Top Secret road map's tasks:
  • each one stands for a real letter - hiding actual words, spaces are as shown, question marks are never spaces
  • they stand for actual items being worked on
  • the items are not in any specific order
  • something that players can immediately interact with
  • something new (some folks refer to this as in "nothing that ever existed in Legacy or Evrima - that might not be accurate)
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Why Top Secret:

  • Because we think it's neat for us to put things into updates for people to discover/figure out, etc.
  • It's necessary for it to be secret
  • Cause personally I think it's neat for it not to be spoiled

When will it be revealed:

  • once update #2 releases
  • once that update hits I'll "decrypt" them and replace the ?'s with letters
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Observations / context / assumptions / open questions:

  • a day after posting the last 2 statements in the "Why Top Secret" list (19.09.2020) #punch adds this:
  • "Things like map expansions and the sorts are also good ways to use it, given that exploration often loses its charm when it's spoiled. I've always felt that type of stuff should be left purely to player exploration."
  • My assumption:
    This came pretty much out of context as far as I can tell. Maybe someone with better language skills could go back into that chat and shed more light on what #Punch refers to when saying "it" & "that type of stuff"?
    Maybe he refers to the two comments he did the day before?! Does "it" directly refer to the "Top Secret" road map item here?
    So he means that such secret road map items serve well for things like map expansions (and diets - see next point)?
    Then I would assume that they will reveal that there is a map expansion but don't tell what it is to not spoil the fun of exploration for the players... hmmm, lot's of guessing here
  • later the same day someone makes a joke about the TS item being "salt licks" (which refers to diet) - another user chimes in and says that this would "...be a slap to the face."
  • #punch now defends this:
    "Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update."
  • Defending something usually has a strong meaning! It could still mean nothing in regards to what the TS road map item really is :P
  • other road map items have multiple sections, this one has only 1 section with 17 items on it

^^ which incl. that there is no QA section - means no play-testing and such? Why is that not required? (credits for spotting this one go to: @dusty fiber)

EOM

thorny scaffold
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A+ on your essay

tribal mirage
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ok so "it" and "that type of stuff" if i recall refers to making stuff a secret

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"Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update." also last i recall this wasnt directly in response to salt licks but the secret as a whole PepeThink lemme recheck

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^^ read the original chat again - it is in direct context to each other - Salt licks <-> Eh, ...

MagyCultist09/19/2020
mabye its salt licks
and a couple new diet plants for herbis that boost growth or stamina

Zann #LeadMinmiEnthusiast09/19/2020
Keeping salt licks as a secret would just be a slap to the face.

Punchpacket #TeamFoszor09/19/2020
Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update.
dusty fiber
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Under the confirmed why isnt the whole
its not a dino, humans, its not a mechanic, and its not spero/spiro there?

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check "Ruled out" items ^^

dusty fiber
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ah mb

icy onyx
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Ruled out (in order of appearance in the #401464048610312195 channel):

  • fall damage
  • lore
  • strains
  • female textures
  • tribals / mercs
  • mechanic (like nesting or fishing)
  • dinosaur
  • Spero (MAP)
  • Spiro (MAP)
  • new teaser video
    @hidden badge told y’all so
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You told me some of these @"The Salty Man" ;) think it was at least 50+% of my list. And my list might still be incomplete.

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would it be possible that the surprise is skin/body customization? it seems kinda far off and a map expanson sounds far more likely, but having body modifications like quills feathers or dewlaps would be new and it has been confirmed iirc. also it seems like it could be done with 17 slots on trello. idk though this is more of a shoot in the dark than anything

warm bear
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@twilit lotus This channel is for lore regarding the story within The Isle

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oh maybe I don't understand then. why has this channel been full of theories about the mystery in update 2? if that's not allowed?

warm bear
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Ahh they're trying to figure out what the secret could be. Forgot about that.

solemn vapor
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I think that Apollo Engineering possibly took the plans for Phoenix Corp’s Magnatyrannus specimen(vice versa)

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@warm bear I asked whether it would be OK to use this channel before I started flooding this channel about the Top Secret roadmap item. But I didn't really wait for anyone to respond. 🤭

I'd be happy to move my stuff around if there is any better place. What do you think - should we ask the devs for another channel for such stuff?

Does anyone know who to reach out to for something like that?

warm bear
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I think you're good here, I just misunderstood!

cinder atlas
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Reminder to read the channel description.

next raft
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think maybe elders will be able to kill magnas like how magnas can kill hypos

burnt coral
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@hidden badge Has anyone decoded the binary in the gif yet?

hexed flax
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There are more AE gifs with different names (AE Root Access, AE key b) now but i don't think they will contain anything new.

left crown
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Okay, so is the REDACTED in Visual's dev blog referring to the secret thing? Because if so, we know that whatever it is it can apparently interact with things

hexed flax
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We are the redacted

Its for us to interact with

left crown
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Ah, alright. I was wondering what he was referring to. But if it's us, then is he referring to a certain playable or? Cause it feels weird that he doesn't just call us players then.

hexed flax
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I am sure only Utahs will be able to interact with these things and he wants to hide this knowledge.

I doubt that a Stego will be able to use the number pad XD

left crown
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It was just a little confusing because the others referred to us as "you guys", so seeing REDACTED appear kinda threw me off. My bad dondiLUL

hexed flax
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I think he already gave us a hint for the code.

There are two dots under the number 1, three dots under 2 and fours dots under 9

I am assuming that this will be a four digit code so it should look like this ?129. Getting the first number shouldn't be difficult

noble karma
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So possibly humans/Utah's will be able to interact with it?

hexed flax
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Possibly. But humans aren't there yet so only utahs

icy onyx
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if 129 were the last 3 numbers of the combination, it would be extremely easy

hexed flax
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I know

coral forge
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if 129 were the last 3 numbers of the combination, it would be extremely easy
to get the combination it would be easy, but there could a security system like resident evil's red queen that kills you for a wrong input or resets a timer for like an hour and surviving another hour could be a real problem

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@burnt coral Read my and other's comments in this channel starting 23rd Oct 05:00
tl;dr
HEX & Binary code has been decoded by folks long before I picked this topic up. I did it again for the fun of it and to see whether there is more. but I found just a minor missing thing.
The hidden messages in the Top Secret gif / video does not have anything to do with the roadmap item itself. Read my comments! ;)

signal yarrow
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Maybe the secret thing is actually playable human. Filipe said a few months ago that we will get humans "sooner than we can imagine". Humans are hype worthy. and an early version of humans does not need so much "tasks" in the roadmap like dinos. Less animations for example. If you replace redacted with humans, Visuals text would actually make sense

neon bloom
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thats what iv been saying but i think someone said its confirmed that its NOT humans

signal yarrow
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Really? cant remember that something like this got said. I mean why would there be so much humans stuff and even Filipe is saying that we will get them in the near future

next raft
signal yarrow
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But with the new map, there isnt much left to get us hyped. Only thing that got not mentoined are humans, and Visual is working hard on Human structures

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neon bloom
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ok

signal yarrow
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Idk, ill just wait with my human theorie back in my head.

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Replaced Redacted with Humans
This months been a bit crazy with the Humans/Mercs especially with the a lot of variants to the modular kit
the glorious Human/Merc HQ of a sorts.
alongside a few small models (props), and a few big ones (dressings), which will be semi animated, for the Humans/Mercs to interact with
hopefully be bringing new life into the Human/Merc life

tawdry sand
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real

signal yarrow
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The Top Secret Gif even revers to a Programm made by humans

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The gif is a copy&paste from the end of the hope trailer. It is also used as a place holder for several of the new road map items meanwhile.
The TS item might still be related to humans but the gif itself is very unlikely a pointer or proof for that.

@tene can you share a link, channel, stream or other source where the human/Merc stuff of this month was mentioned originally?

signal yarrow
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Devblog was the text i changed

noble karma
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The last thing that was redacted in an update log was that tower. Maybe it's something to do with that?

dusty fiber
hexed flax
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I just hope the update releases on a Wednesday or Thursday because these are my days off work.

restive zenith
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Alright, im confused

We have an aviary on V3, but theres something odd about it. Pteras can get in and out with relative ease as the mesh is big enough. Why would it be designed this way?

hexed flax
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I think the devs wanted to put glass in the mesh. The aviary isn't finished, thats why it has this screen glitch

next raft
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u can walk on it there is a hill u can use to get on it and you dont fall thru

hexed flax
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They updated the description of the Top Secret part in update 2

sinful shale
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They updated the actual checklist an hour ago as well.

kindred girder
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Out of curiosity and idiocy where can you find this information

left crown
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Check the pinned document and website

twin cape
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(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

tawdry sand
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thats a pretty cool theory

unborn creek
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has anyone mentioned Atrium C is the same name as the Atrium from Primal Carnage on the map Contingency?

sinful shale
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Yah. If I remember correctly, Apollo stole assets from Phoenix Corps' (Primal Carnage) Atrium B and C which was filled with Aquatic and Avian creatures respectfully, destroying the atriums in the process. I guess they built and modeled their own Atriums where they held the assets they stole.

tranquil galleon
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anything that can be found out has been found out by this point @unborn creek

solemn vapor
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A L P H I E

next raft
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anyone else notice how the allo from ark looks like it has a hypo or magna strain

solemn vapor
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All the Ark Carni's do

next raft
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not rly

solemn vapor
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Well, the exception of a few, The Rex, spino, giga, allo, mosa, magma, RD, and wyverns look like Hypos

tranquil galleon
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how is that related to lore

next raft
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maybe theres a link like in primal carnage but the chance is to low

tranquil galleon
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simply no, there isn't

icy onyx
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Are you positive of that?

earnest plover
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simply no, he isn't

tranquil galleon
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simply yes, i am

icy onyx
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simply no, you aren’t

worn lily
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i am

neon bloom
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me

worn lily
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no me

worn lily
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and no u

neon bloom
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wh

next raft
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i dont think its true tho they might have just copied

solemn vapor
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maybe theres a link like in primal carnage but the chance is to low
@next raft

PCE Rex Roar in hope + Phoenix Corp Logo in hope

next raft
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no i meant link with ark which im sure isnt there

sinful shale
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Remember when we had actual theories?

tranquil galleon
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yes - but even then they were mostly just reiterating what had already been theorised

warm bear
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Please keep this channel serious and related to The Isle. Gonna clean it up.

untold jewel
hexed flax
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Yes, it is already translated

untold jewel
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Yes, it is already translated
@hexed flax I also translated it, theres nothing there 😦

marble cave
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soooo does anyone know wtf is the giant ass skeleton underwater?

hexed flax
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Its the colossus. It didn't die of starvation. Thats all that is known about it XD

stone crater
supple dome
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No, not at all

stone crater
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so it's. some other Colossus, then?? or is "colossus" just what people have decided to call it

left crown
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Wasn't it referred to as the Island walker or something? The bones I mean.

spice gust
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I thought the bones underwater was The Matriarch or did that get deconfirmed or something

sinful shale
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All we know is that people basically dubbed it the Colossus, it's a big freakin' thing, and that it died from something other than starvation. There are also scientific buildings down there, some people think that it's, like a contamination center that got submerged or somn.

next raft
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the matriarch was something that like evolves over time and it got that big at some point in the lore thats why we have the skeleton and the hyper colossus is something else its like a hyper human or what ever all the strains have 1

vague root
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More like a hyper cannibal

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What if elder stage was actually made as a plot hole filler to describe what "eyeless things" are in relation to cannibals...

next raft
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nah

cunning tapir
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Has anyone tried to translate redacted yet?

cyan schooner
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we got this
01110010 01100101 01100100 01100001 01100011 01110100 01100101 01100100

cunning tapir
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you got me

jade notch
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redacted lol

jade notch
jade notch
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//ROOT ACCESS GRANTED... initating apollo core data transfer... data transfer initiated -- apollo core -- top secret eyes only information ... access key confirmed... genetic data sequencing in progress...

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... ... -- -- ... ... ... It's Morse code. (the third one is actually the second one in the sequence) SSMMSSS is what it comes back to. meaning nothing.

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has anyone upscaled and translated the genetic code here?

icy onyx
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So. Primal Carnage and The Isle are connected by multiple things (like Alfie, Phoenix and Magnatyrannus, and the potential renaming of this game's Utahraptor to Novaraptor). The dinosaurs in the isle are probably direct descendants of the primal carnage dinosaurs, and possibly also different phenotypes altogether.

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In the direct descendant argument, the Novaraptor and "Utahraptor" would be not too reasonable to think off in the relatively wacky universe of Primal Carnage/The Isle. So, the Novaraptor has Utahraptor DNA in it's base genome, but with some other stuff added in like Velociraptor DNA. So, the excessive genetic material is bred out over successive generations pretty rapidly, untill the Utahraptor DNA becomes dominant (with some altered characteristics showing through, like pronatable hands and featherlessness)

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Ceratosaurus works fairly well for different phenotypes. The Isle's cerato is very close in appearance, if not identical, in general appearance to the real animal. The Primal Carnage cerato, on the other hand, is a lot more Crocodilian in appearance (covered in scutes, with a spiny row going from the top of the neck to the tip of the tail), looking very distinct from TI's design

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And then there's also some dinosaurs being literally THE SAME between the games. Magnatyrannus otherwise seems to be the PC rex, since they share the same sounds and have very similar appearances (though Magna seems a bit leaner, possibly more to do with inconsistencies between game style rather than any changes in phenotype)

slow delta
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the isle can use ideas and concepts from the original primal carnage ONLY and not vice versa and not from primal carnage: extinction

pure zodiac
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That'd be one helluva coincidence for pc:e's cera to look eerily like TI's cera.

Unless Dondi struck a deal with pc:e in secret.

slow idol
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Wouldn’t be surprised since they have connected lore

icy onyx
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the isle can use ideas and concepts from the original primal carnage ONLY and not vice versa and not from primal carnage: extinction
Ok that excludes Cera, but doesn't exclude rex really

cyan schooner
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That'd be one helluva coincidence for pc:e's cera to look eerily like TI's cera.

Unless Dondi struck a deal with pc:e in secret.
or hear me out, they are both the same animal, god forbid ceratosaurus look like ceratosaurus

sinful shale
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Well, I mean, I guess a lot of games have different styles, and the pictures they showed were very similar. It's called a "lore-theories" channel for a reason.

icy onyx
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They still look superficially different. TI Cera looks like the real thing, while PCE's Cera is a ferocious land croc with horns

left crown
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I mean, they have similar proportions, but that's just because they're the same animal. One is just a lot spikier than the other

icy onyx
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And has differently shaped and sized scales

icy onyx
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Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.

lavish cipher
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understandable

icy onyx
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Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.
Tbh the Crocodilian appearance is cooler

indigo kestrel
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Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.
@icy onyx looks*

latent fiber
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the primal carnage's cerato looks more fantastic, unlike the isle ceratosaurus, yeah maybe the colors are attractive

gilded panther
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So. Primal Carnage and The Isle are connected by multiple things (like Alfie, Phoenix and Magnatyrannus, and the potential renaming of this game's Utahraptor to Novaraptor). The dinosaurs in the isle are probably direct descendants of the primal carnage dinosaurs, and possibly also different phenotypes altogether.
@icy onyx they better not fucking change the utahs name

high heath
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@gilded panther Sorry, but Dondi owns PC...technically, and the Utahraptor doesn't look like an actual Utahraptor, it can be the Novaraptor.

worn lily
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I mean isn't Nov being made tho?

icy onyx
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Well TI and PC do in fact have connected lore

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But Dondi hinted at TI coming after PC

noble siren
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Hello Guys.

cloud sparrow
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what if taco was the real lore?

robust ether
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Dear god.. TacoScream

icy onyx
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But Dondi hinted at TI coming after PC
Makes sense, considering that there probably seems to have been rapid evolution with Phoenix's clones (or alternatively new batches of clones made). Considering TI can only take stuff from the original primal carnage, this could mean there is a canonical "fork" between PCE and TI

sharp knoll
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New neuro giga?

placid glacier
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Where did that come from

cunning quartz
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man-made ..?

placid glacier
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I mean, the pictures.....

placid glacier
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Where did those Pictures come from, who posted them?

cunning quartz
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Hmmm, idk
I join to this discord just to know the theory of the isle

severe sleet
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Old Tapwing art.

worn lily
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i mean u could just ask someone to tell u the lore

ancient garden
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where i saw those pictures of the old tapwing art MotherOrganoid #TeamFoszor was on Anthomnia's (YouTuber) latest video.

sharp knoll
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is a tapwing concept

thorny scaffold
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Why does that Neuro Rex have a spike up its ass?

icy onyx
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it's an extension of a bone in the hip (the ischium)

placid glacier
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someone to tell you the lore
I already know all of the lore lol

tribal raptor
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What is the lore

sinful shale
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Yes, tell us the lore, oh lore master. dondiSmile

silver rover
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i know the lore:

hexed flax
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Oh, so you like the Isle? Tell the lore.

thorny scaffold
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human make dino
dino mad and kill human
dino take over island

icy onyx
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dino clone hooman

ripe galleon
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dino is victim of island dwarfism

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human sell dog sized rex as pet

daring spruce
void apex
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Old tapwing art .-.

kindred zephyr
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daltification??

robust ether
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That is old tapwing art, but I do really love the top one.

worthy tapir
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jmmm

sacred tartan
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The lore is that the dinosaurs in the isle are scientifically made modified, the isle also has mutants and human tribals

vocal shoal
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0 . 0

prime meteor
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isle is isle

silver current
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the lore is game devs were like dinos cool lets make monster dinos yea..

tawdry sand
queen knoll
tawdry sand
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no
also wrong channel

gleaming talon
marble cave
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this one

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@gleaming talon this one

unborn creek
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the monarch or matriarch or something

pure zodiac
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It's neither, that skeleton is of something else we call the 'island walker'.

cunning quartz
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why did that creature die

unborn creek
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it died of death

marble cave
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maybe of hunger like this shit would devour the whole isand

rich dragon
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No something else killed it. Cant remember if we know what did it or not

sinful shale
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I dont think we do, lol. But yes definitely not hunger

next raft
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thats not lore

sinful shale
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What's not?

next raft
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they deleted they were asking when the update was coming

sinful shale
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Oh nvm then.

next raft
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lol what

minor lava
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the skeleton is just placeholders

undone grail
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wait did dondi say in that IGP video that that's just the little one and that there is a bigger one

undone grail
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And we don't know what killed it but i think it's something similar to it maybe the big one?

cunning quartz
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Then, where's the big one right now on the isle

undone grail
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idk

undone grail
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maybe being like godzilla

icy onyx
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Any ideas on what that top secret thing on roadmap is?

ebon badge
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buildings

icy onyx
sinful shale
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Did they say what building? I have a few guesses as to what they might be.

ebon badge
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I think(?) someone of importance said it was buildings a little bit ago but don't quote me on that

next raft
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the 1st 1 could be ????? encoded messages but idk

weak spire
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the northern mountain range kinda looks like spines if you look at it from south

raven lion
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Anyone know what the "POG" reactions mean on the top secret thing in the roadmap updates?

left crown
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It's just a reaction meme, nothing related to lore

raven lion
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Ok

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Anyone know what the secret thing actually is?

left crown
raven lion
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Oh I see

tidal knot
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pog isle lore 🙂

icy onyx
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poggers 😤

strange shell
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theory: update 2 was a lie.

high heath
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This is lore theories, not discord theories.

strange shell
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its an isle theory wdym? update 2 is about the isle not discord soo.

high heath
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A bad theory, apparently.

faint hatch
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we know very very little about the lore but if you think about it for a bit it's really terrifying

quiet delta
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yeah agreed, especially looking back at lots of the older content such as the titan or whatever, was some sort of giant hypo dude that ate pues for lunch

icy onyx
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Yep, and all of these weird mutations

sand seal
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It's an imperfect art. A fractured image to try to recreate. Some pieces need a little more imagination to fulfill.

Sometimes you get it right. Other times you improve upon it.

sinful shale
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Damn, we getting fancy in the lore channel.

tough kite
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There's lore?

placid glacier
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So much lore

tough kite
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Also I can't find the suggestion chat

loud adder
old kraken
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What lore TI_Wheeze

grim beacon
icy onyx
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since AE means apollo engineering, and apollo means something to do with space, does that mean [UNKNOWN] is a space life-form?

jade notch
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uh oh

next raft
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not really wasnt apollo like some "god" or something

shut remnant
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ye the isle's lore is heavily linked with greek mythology

jade notch
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space ghosts

restive zenith
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In greek mythology, Apollo was known for archery, and also healing, so maybe AE has something to do with medicine?

icy onyx
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Probably. Medicine, Genetics and Technology are probably the main things they study and work on.

restive zenith
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so then why would they have dinosaurs of all things?

icy onyx
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That relates to genetics. They're genetically engineered animals.

oblique lichen
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Apollo was the god of oracles, healing, archery, music and arts, sunlight, knowledge, herds and flocks, and protection of the young

barren kraken
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didnt know where to post this. but the floating meat is still bugged lol.

silver rover
thorny scaffold
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how do you know floating meat isn't part of the lore

lavish gyro
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probably a hidden strain that is activated after death

next raft
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what

bronze moth
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what was appolo's initial intention in creating the dinosaurs? I mean they bought a huge island and then used technology to resuscitate the dinosaurs, but for what reason? they certainly weren't going to do a jurrasic park but if it was just for studying with what money would they be doing these studies? I have a theory that the American government was giving this money but the island was somewhere in Africa so when they evacuated the island they were unable to return to resume the experiments

icy onyx
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There is some stuff which related to Primal Carnage. Such as Phoenix corp.

bronze moth
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yes i think that phoenix corp is like the biosy of this story because they get the tecnology do create the dinossaurs from appolo

icy onyx
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If looking at the original Primal Carnage lore, Phoenix is solely responsible for creating the dinosaurs in that game. Apollo may have actually stolen Phoenix's technology at some point and created their own, more refined clones (correct me if I'm wrong).

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Some dinosaurs in Primal Carnage and The Isle are practically identical, such as PC Tyrannosaurus and TI's Magnatyrannus. They are both bigger than the standard tyrannosaurus in the fossil record, have a back covered in big overlapping osteoderms, and have loud, hissy roar (as well as brick red and black base colouration, with a white underbelly)

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Apollo's Tyrannosaurus is closer to the real animal, lacking the Crocodilian osteoderms and having pebbly scales instead.

bronze moth
# icy onyx If looking at the original Primal Carnage lore, Phoenix is solely responsible fo...

I'm not sure about this theory, because the TOP SECRET videos of the isle show a screen with the name of the appolo while a small symbol of the phoenix is ​​flashing on the screen as if the phoenix wanted to hack the appolo computers in addition to the number of species cloned by appolo is significantly bigger than the ones cloned by phoenix i think phoenix just wanted to sell the primal carnage dinosaurs to be weapons of war and that's why they are so inaccurate

next raft
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it is confirmed apollo stole assets

bronze moth
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sorry if i wrote something wrong i'm using the translator

bronze moth
next raft
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no its was like an in game screen or something idk it was decoded from binary or hex i think

icy onyx
next raft
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magna rex, hypo rex, quetz, novaraptor from pc

bronze moth
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ow i remeber that

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wait the place where primal carnage takes place was bombed isn't it? or am i mistaken?

bronze moth
bronze moth
# icy onyx

I mean does anyone know where this print came from? can someone give me the link?

icy onyx
thin lily
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Any ideas where the titans came from?(colosuss, echidna, reaper)

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Maybe they are grown in a lab, like human embryos mixed with strain Dino DNA? Due to the colossus having a rex like head, echidna with her spino claws and reaper with his raptor esc feet

bronze moth
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I will try to make the timeline today but since we have no dates about the events of the game I will just organize the events one after the other

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1 event - we have no facts about how history begins but we can theorize that apollo was a small medical and genetic technology company with its greatest competition being the phoenix corp but after a few years of research apollo was able to discover some enzyme capable of cloning dead cells and this was a major breakthrough in medicine which made apollo more powerful over time until they started doing tests to try to clone fossilized dinosaur cells until eventually they managed to clone a first specimen

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2 event - apollo started to create more specimens over time, still in laboratories and research centers in america, but the animals died still young because they were not raised in a more "natural" place until they decided to buy an archipelago off the coast of africa to be able to continue research on these islands the dinosaurs began to progress and reach adulthood

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adendun - i had said that apollo had financial support from the american government but i think they had enough money with research on the enzyme that they must have patented and used to sell drugs for the treatment of genetic diseases like cancer

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3 event - apollo had already created more than 20 different species of dinosaurs on the islands until the phoenix somehow found out about the islands and sent spies to steal the dinosaurs' DNA so that the phoenix could create its own monstrous versions of the dinosaurs like magna rex and the novaraptor and they housed these creations on another island off the American coast this time the goal of phoenix in their creations was to sell to millionaires who want powerful weapons of destruction for themselves

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4 events - because of an error in the phoenix's containment system the dinosaurs managed to escape and cause chaos in the facility and after some time phoenix sent an extermination team to prevent the incident from becoming visible to the public (primal carnage events) but apollo had already learned what had happened and contacted the american government which bombed the island of phoenix

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5 event - after the site was bombed, Apollo started an operation to recover what was left of the site (operation inferno) and they got the magna rex the novaraptor and genetic plans for the hypos and the quetza (and perhaps all flying reptiles) which they used to create the same

dusk arrow
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look and madness an utah eat a fish on the bank left to put a deino.

bronze moth
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6 event - as kind of "revenge" a few years later the phoenix hacked the computers of the islands of apollo and then all the animals escaped from their enclosures they tried to maintain control but failed and were forced to evacuate the islands so the now free dinosaurs started to survive on the islands like current animals some even started to breed over time (events from the isle)

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7 event - in the meantime 3 explorers had discovered the abandoned archipelago and found the dinosaurs but both 3 were killed by the animals (events from the isle's old teasers)

next raft
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finaly someone did it

quaint zinc
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I think this might be part of the lore? It's official, it's 1 frame on the loading screen, it's showing a hypo chasing a jeep, and I think it's next to the ocean? So this is at port maybe? I can see some kind of ship too. Maybe the hypos were transported to port, but then broke out? I mean, that could possibly explain that big enclosure at port

slow delta
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um guys, all the new trello roadmap gifs have different names and titles. i feel like they all include different binary codes, too bad their quality is too low to be decoded

mighty abyss
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"Stop looking for things that aren't there"

hexed flax
bronze moth
slow delta
regal radish
severe anvil
bronze moth
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I will post a PDF of the complete timeline that I created as I said I don't have a date so I separated the story into events if they think I was wrong about something in theory please tell me your doubts

regal radish
next raft
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not rly unhinged thats just the way the joints work

regal radish
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Well, Hypo Giga as a split jaw with multiple rows of teeth while Hypo spino has a snake like unhinged jaw. Speaking of which, hope we'll get some interesting lore about them once the mutated dinos come back. Like scientists reports on the plants that makes them etc.

next raft
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snakes dont unhinge there jaws the joints just do that and the chin isnt connected and its stretchy

thin hinge
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My theory is: Utah rapotors are big brains so they are running the whole island to see who they should eat or something

minor lava
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What?

stable peak
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Digged into the unicode, its literally just a series of random numbers, some of those unicodes don't actually even exist in any of the computing languages.

shy delta
stable peak
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I did get some letters in certain languages, but none of them forms words and they're so inconsistent. so yah, just there for cosmetic.

shy delta
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Shame

next raft
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maybe not tho it could just be more encrypted or just no unicode

bronze moth
icy onyx
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It's either in the Pacific or Atlantic, perhaps near Florida, Mexico or Costa Rica among other places.

outer verge
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The thing that doesn't match with that theory is the aurora that can be seen in the sky during the night. Unless there has been a geomagnetic storm in the world or in that area. A geomagnetic storm could also be the reason the island(s) were/are seemingly abandoned by people.

bronze moth
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I did a little research and the hottest place where it is possible to see an aurora is in Canada

celest imp
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my theory is after like...a WW3 event were world wide nukes spred. the only thing left other than the surviving humans from bunkers was like...lizards. and the radiation rapidly changed the lizards kinda godzilla style into dinos. and thats why theres both people and dinos. and the people are trying to contain them.

bronze moth
celest imp
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ahhhh.

bronze moth
void apex
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I always felt like it was a South American/Caribbean

next raft
hexed flax
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Spiro is definitely an exotic island so probably somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. V3 has fauna that is common in regions that have all 4 seasons

bronze moth
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so that means that the islands of apollo are in different parts of the world and it's not a single archipelago like I said in my timiline

rustic nexus
high heath
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Apollo Engineering has the island bombed, the island belongs to Phoenix Corp.

rustic nexus
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Ah i see

bronze moth
# rustic nexus Wasn’t phoenix’s island bombed?

in my timiline I suspected that the first island with dinosaurs was from apollo enginering and that phoenix had discovered how to create dinosaurs in the same way as apollo but after the events of primal carnage the island of phoenix was bombed and when apollo heard about them they sent people to what was left of the island of phoenix to steal some assets (hypos, magna rex, novaraptor, quetz etc) but apollo already knew how to create dinosaurs because they started it

rustic nexus
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Ah i see

outer verge
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Where did you get the bombardment part from?

bronze moth
# outer verge Where did you get the bombardment part from?

just put the pieces together after the island of the phoenix was destroyed by the dinosaurs they sent a team of people to exterminate the dinosaurs (playable humans from primal carnage) but as they didn’t get it they would have no choice but to contact the government so that island was bombed

icy onyx
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So the initial merc based extermination operation was a fail

outer verge
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Considering how well equipped the corporations are Id say they didn't need the government's help to bombard the island if that's what truly happened. I feel like they would like to keep the government out of their business for as long as possible. A bit like Jurassic Park or Monarch from monster verse. And on top of that, if there are still facilities on the island that could be made functional once more or if there is equipment left behind I can't see them pulling the big red button so eagerly. Then there are the animals on top of that. Each one probably costs quite a lot. Ofc, I'm not that invested in the lore and past events, so hard to imagine the relations the corporations have to the rest of the world

outer verge
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  • Bombarding an island is not exactly cheap either
icy onyx
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Mhm

rustic nexus
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I heard about human consciousness being transferred into dinosaurs. Does that mean they have human memories/emotions?

bronze moth
rustic nexus
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Ah I am fairly new to getting into the lore is there anything i could use to catch up?

bronze moth
rustic nexus
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Hmm i see....

next raft
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thats theorys n stuff there is a massive 50+ page doc pinned to this channel with all the official confirmed stuffs

icy onyx
rustic nexus
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That is a lot to take in but I found “Only one profile will be completed interesting” do we know what happens to incomplete profiles? Are they trashed or kept until they are completed

slow delta
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no idea, if we go by the most reasonable headcanon atm, the profiles go through 1000 life cycles until they can be released back into their original bodies, assuming they do not get twisted and corrupted

next raft
bronze moth
outer verge
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Its in pinned messages

bronze moth
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aaaahh sorry i had misunderstood my english is not the best

bronze moth
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I just saw it here and it is quite complex but can someone tell me what the atrium-C ?????

slow delta
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it's a big glass dome where pterosaurs lived during the primal carnage game

icy onyx
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Atrium C is actually a map in PC (Contingency)

slow delta
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well yeah the map is contingency but the whole map isn't the atrium right?

icy onyx
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The whole map IS the atrium. And lemme explain more. It's a glass and concrete dome, intended to house pterosaurs, and it has a sort of "kill switch" (which activates a timer, and high voltage electric shocks are emitted upon this timer finishing, killing anything within the dome, but not in the control room and viewport).

slow delta
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ah my bad, i was confused with the atrium that existed on one of the isle maps

icy onyx
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This is Phoenix's island, which is separate from the other maps which belong to Apollo. The two companies are rivals.

slow delta
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well not exactly, if the isle's atrium C is the same as pc's atrium C, then that means the hypers and hyper alfie lived and escaped from the pc island's atrium C, meaning that AE was either a splinter cell of PI which broke off sometime before operation inferno or they both shared the same assets

icy onyx
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According to PC's lore, Alfie hadn't escaped yet during the events of the original game. As far as I am aware, he was still a regular Quetzalcoatlus.

bronze moth
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I think that after the PC events the island of phoenix was bombed as many had said and apollo started using the island of phoenix as one of its islands

outer verge
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Is there any actual evidence of the bombardment you keep bringing up? As far as I can see it's just speculation and I have yet to see any confirmed info about it

slow delta
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operation inferno is mentioned in the website, it was revealed during the console stream.

bronze moth
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ok maybe i'm taking the bomber a little bit seriously but it doesn't matter because this answered my question about atrium C :

outer verge
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Aight that resolves that

bronze moth
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sorry if I still don't know much about the lore of the game but it is practically confirmed that operation inferno was something destructive maybe it is not a bombardment but it has great chances even because what else could have destroyed the original atrium B and C even because of what I understood these were huge constructions

outer verge
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I think that as one of the definitions for inferno is "a very large uncontrolled fire" the name Inferno could also refer to something very large and out of control

outer verge
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I was actually thinking hypos. Im not even sure if matriarch is confirmed

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Since hypos only live as long as there is something to eat, they would be a quite efficient way to wipe out everything living on an island and then just wait for them/it to starve

bronze moth
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I still think that Operation lnferno was a bombardment or a sabotage of Apollo on the island of Phoenix, so its buildings were destroyed and then redone on one of the Apollo Islands where the hypos would later be contained there.

outer verge
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What makes you think that? I'm genuinely curious?

bronze moth
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for the simple fact that besides a possible matriarch nothing would be so strong to destroy a huge glass dome not even hypos would be able to cause so much damage

outer verge
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Fair enough

bronze moth
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thanks owo but I haven't yet dismissed your theory that everything was caused by hypos

mighty abyss
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you say that yet an ordinary quetz was able to break out of the top

bronze moth
mighty abyss
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Big Alphie literally broke out the dome during Primal Carnage and is literally flying around Marsh during the game

hexed flax
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@slow delta i just compared AE access key B to AE Root access key A and both of them have the same binary code.

slow delta
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@hexed flax damn i thought we were closing in on something. thanks for trying man

hexed flax
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I guess we have to wait for the buildings to get more lore

slow delta
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yeah sadly

sleek temple
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Isn’t there a radio tower added into evrima

scenic acorn
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i think, but i don't know.

hexed flax
sleek temple
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where is it?

void apex
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Radio tower is in

delicate current
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Oh rip

void apex
outer verge
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I liked the old tower more ngl

sleek temple
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what location is it at i kinda wanna go see it

left crown
sleek temple
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thank

shadow pine
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Is isle and primal in the same Universe TI_Think ive read trough the lore and it seems so

hexed flax
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The Isle and the original Primal carnage are in the same universe

icy onyx
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Extinction is excluded, so there's essentially this "canonical fork"

pseudo shadow
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alternate universe dinosaur sim TI_DiloSip

icy onyx
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PCE isn't a dinosaur sim, unless you're on Free Roam. The way you're actually meant to play the game is on Team Deathmatch, or "Get To The Chopper" (GTTC), which involves escaping the island via capturing different objective points. And since I like being brutal on multiplayer games, that's why I play the two competitive gamemodes which I just mentioned.

shy delta
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Pce is a mistake TI_Troll

pseudo shadow
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idk i bought it and im having fun with it

icy onyx
hexed flax
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Wrong chat

icy onyx
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Yes. Well someone made it to offtopic.

shy delta
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Throwing me under the bus, wow TI_pue1

icy onyx
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Sorry.

mighty abyss
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theoretically, do you think the bad game design is reflected in the story
In that there is no story

slow delta
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🤦

icy onyx
mint vault
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Let's not.

feral pond
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(Chat cleaned up)

bleak depot
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(I dont even want to know what happend here)

next raft
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people were spaming hi

bleak depot
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Ah ok

icy onyx
regal locust
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Gimme a sec.

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Very very old and very very outdated most likely, but, if this is what you're looking for here you go.

thorny scaffold
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I like how it makes these creepy ass croaks but the last two calls sound like some angry chihuahua

dim birch
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eco location 😉 they gonna be deadly! And will probablly have some kind of modified vision

next raft
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i wouldnt know what an angry chihuahua sounds like mines rly friendly

thin lily
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Any ideas on where the titans come from?

amber crypt
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I always visioned the tribals as like the big villages from the king kong movie with jack black with huge scary desolate looking structures with big walls on the outside or maybe like huge caves with buildings and things hanging on scaffolds on the sides of the caves or edges of cliffs

hexed flax
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More human buildings were added!

outer verge
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Pics?

noble karma
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probs not helpful but I will put them here anyways

outer verge
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Seems pretty.. bland?

hexed flax
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-239, -691 human structure behind a fence

hexed flax
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There are no docks or other human structures at the beach

slow delta
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seems like generic assets for now but thanks for posting it

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i brightened up the new screenshot, but there's nothing from what i can see

hexed flax
slow delta
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ah ok, i assume the tower doesn't play any morse yet?

robust vapor
minor lava
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yes, there is also that exact broken wall by the radio tower

robust vapor
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okay

hexed flax
# slow delta ah ok, i assume the tower doesn't play any morse yet?

I haven't been up there so i don't know if it has a morse code. But i think the main menu morse code is different (before it was playing the "This is just the beginning" and i kind of remembered how it looked like). But now it starts differently i think. I might record it tomorrow

slow delta
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at first i also thought it was a symbol but yeah it's just exposed rebar from the broken wall

hexed flax
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-506, -57 another generic human structure and a second radio tower

slow delta
silver rover
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can you walk into the door

icy onyx
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hello guys can someone know the position of humans tructure?

tawdry sand
minor lava
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what's the question mark?

tawdry sand
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there is apparentaly a human structure there but i couldn't find it so i put a question mark

hexed flax
# tawdry sand there is apparentaly a human structure there but i couldn't find it so i put a q...

Someone posted a picture of a human structure and said that it was a radio tower. So i asked him what the coordinates are and he told me -506, -57. I double checked it.

There should be a structure because in his screenshot you could see the spire from an angle that shouldn't be possible from Mt. Jugger. And there is no way he wrote the coordinates wrong because the Radio tower on Mt. Jugger has coordinates that start with -49

tawdry sand
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i looked at that screenshot and its definitely the radio tower at "mt jagger"

icy onyx
#

no

warm bear
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mt jagger mike

slow delta
outer verge
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There is probably no roads between them? At least yet

hexed flax
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@slow delta the morse code still starts with "This is just the beginning" do you want to translate the rest of it anyway?

slow delta
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nah pretty sure its the same thing

quaint zinc
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ik this will sound pretty dumb and Ik the devs didn't actually plan this, but what if humans are slowly adding larger dinosaurs to the island to see how they would survive. Like, they start off with small dinosaurs and slowly add more to the ecosystem to see what will happen???

icy onyx
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There's constant adjusting to the game. The current consensus is that (a) all the dinosaurs made at more or less the same time and (2) the newly founded ecosystem hasn't collapsed for some reason

slow delta
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well the lore is super meta at times so it could be what spycrab said too

strange shell
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I've been wondering something about the lore, why did Apollo Engineering recreate dinosaurs in the first place ? We know that Phoenix Corp was probably some sort of military experiment, but AE went far beyond that. They heavily genetically modified dinos to make them fill niches they weren't supposed to and recreate a working ecosystem. But what's the purpose of it ?

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Recreating dinosaurs is one thing, but why take dinos that weren't supposed to live together and engineer them to live as if they were part of the same ecosystem ?
Another question, is the fact that there are human minds inside the dinos confirmed ?

icy onyx
strange shell
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I have a theory about the Hyperendocrin colossus, Tissoplastic reaper and Neurotenic mastermind. What if they were already on the island when AE arrived ? That would be the reason why they chose to settle here for their experiment. These creatures' DNA has some unique properties, and by extacteing it, allows for incredible mutations. AE would want to study those beings. Mercs, then wouldn't be here only to fight the dinos... but they'd have something to do about the creatures, too.

strange shell
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Oh, and do we know what the Replicator is ? From what I've read in this channel, it is depicted like a super-computer able to recreate dinos... But what if it's organic and a living being ?

hexed flax
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Colossus, Reaper and Echidna were created by AE. There are currently 12 reapers alive. Echidnas location is unknown and the colossus is dead.

I thought that the replicator is an AI but it could also be that a human consciousness is inside a computer

icy onyx
cyan schooner
icy onyx
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oh- sorry lol

icy onyx
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Hello there. I love the isle, but I haven’t gotten into the lore yet. If someone could explain what it’s all about, (at least what we know for now) or what AE/Apollo Engineering is, I would be thankfull.

wind rover
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@icy onyx if you go to pinned in this channel and look at the google doc, it has everything we know in it

icy onyx
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Thx! You mean the one sent by HellShade#8705 right?

wind rover
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Yeah

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@icy onyx the link sent by taterfi is easier to understand

slow delta
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just to point out, the google doc isn't as well written as taterfi's website because it wasn meant to be a place for us to store and decrypt the hidden information rather than catalogue it all

wind rover
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It does

next raft
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it said something like website not found then it loaded

slow delta
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it works just click on it

vocal violet
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everyone on dondi's stream we got lore news

vague root
hexed flax
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The stream isn't available anymore. What did he say?

slow delta
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any vods available?

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stream was 2 hours ago rip

hexed flax
slow delta
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rip all the lore info that was dumped i guess 🤷

icy onyx
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What did donidi say about the lore then

ember jay
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has anyone come up with the theory that the isle is when humans created dinosaurs who took over the world cuz i think it is a popular theory

hexed flax
slow delta
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hmmm yeah there's definite similarities there

icy onyx
hexed flax
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I wonder if they have planned all of this or just looked at some old transmissions and thought "Oh yeah we could reuse this". Because the gif is from 2018

outer verge
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How large is that painting btw?

slow delta
outer verge
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Okay so, it's an orb with something that looks to me like human figures inside it. below it there are lines that could be seen as a boat with rays coming from it/them. Then there are 3 adult handprints 1 smaller handprint and 1 handprint that barely looks like a handprint. Also, the location is weird. Tribal paintings on a modern building?

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Are the tribals aware of the replicator and is it still confirmed to be canon?

vocal violet
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Sorry for being late

hexed flax
vocal violet
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But dondi said something about the image that I posted about the replicator

outer verge
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We know this from: ?

icy onyx
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🙂

hexed flax
outer verge
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Aight thx

blissful forge
outer verge
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(It looks more like weird shiny clay tbh)

strange shell
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If it's blood, it's not the drawer's. It is way too elaborate to be a dying man's last move. It looks a little like prehistoric cave paintings, so maybe it's tribals' work ? Could the "Sun" be the replicator ?

outer verge
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Also, the dying man theory doesn't explain the drastic difference in the size of the 5 handprints. The orb reminded me of the replicator as well. ^^ What to me seem like human figures inside of the orb also kinda strengthen that

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Do we know where exactly the drawing is btw?

icy onyx
neon bobcat
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i doubt it was done as someone's dying action, but it could well have been human or dinosaur blood. Maybe it being blood has some significance that goes further than just "scary blood drawing"

outer verge
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Just to point out, it looks rather recent. Both blood and mud-based dyes do get washed away by rain and the continuous humidity of rainforests.

icy onyx
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Drifting slightly off topic, but you can get many sorts of red dyes from tree bark, roots, flowers and even bugs (cochineal, or carmine, is one example of an insect derrived dye)

neon bobcat
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fair point. The more i look at it the less it looks like blood

icy onyx
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Considering Spiro has a fair bit of plant diversity (with both native and introduced flora), it shouldn't be hard to find stuff you can make rudimentary paint out of.

neon bobcat
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i don't know if it's just me but it almost looks as if the symbol was etched into the wall as well as painted?

outer verge
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Id say its just painted

neon bobcat
icy onyx
neon bobcat
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that would make sense. After trying to wrap my brain around it it does look like it's bulging out rather than in, so maybe it is just a thick paste dye applied on the wall. Especially seeing as there's no signs of dripping anywhere

pseudo shadow
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The thing below the circle looks almost like a smile or vertebrae of some kimd

outer verge
icy onyx
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So the picture could probably survive for a long time, especially if given a fresh coat of paste (and this is where cultural/spiritual significance takes hold)

outer verge
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Why not just avoid the hassle of having to return to the same point through a forest filled with dinosaurs and paint it in a cave or inside of a building instead tho?

neon bobcat
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perhaps the structure is meaningful to them in some way

icy onyx
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The tribals could maybe see A.E as gods who have arrived, but their visit is only short lived, and disruptive to their previously peaceful lives as islanders (thanks to the introduction of prehistoric fauna like dinosaurs and so forth). They might believe these "gods" have punished them for some reason, with worshipping the replicator starting as a desperate means of getting rid of this curse.

outer verge
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Okay, so I currently think it's a boat carrying an orb filled with human figures with raised hands. The orb might be the replicator. Dondi implied a while ago that the tribals worshipped and built temples for the replicator.
The picture kinda reminds me of the Egyptian sun god Ra. Just remove the eagle person and it looks very similar

minor lava
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yeah it kinda looks like a boat carrying people, perhaps it could be mercs arriving at the island? sometimes I wonder if dondi looks at this channel and laughs at how wrong we are

outer verge
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Wouldnt be surprised if there was no actual lore at all and Dondi just kept giving us fake clues to fuel our vibrate imagination.

thorny scaffold
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how do you know he didnt do just that

outer verge
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We dont, and considering how little actual lore has been published in the last 2 years wouldnt be surprised if that was actually the case.

vague root
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It seems for me these are people raising their hands to praise that round thingy, which may be light or a hole

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There are also human figures upside down, these can be shadows, but they don't have their hands raised

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I thought about holes because of old sacrificial building concepts, I didn't manage to find these though

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Welp, these also may be people watching others being sacrificed to replicator, but still I can't be sure...

hexed flax
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I am sure it's supposed to be an "all seeing eye" symbol. It definitely looks like one. And i bet once this building gets released the devs will put a camera inside the circle that represents the eye. Just like in the gif

slow delta
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also how high on the wall is the drawing? is it somewhere an average human could reach?

fringe dome
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in before suggestion that it was drawn by a dino human hybrid

icy onyx
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it's basically on one of the Human structures currently in-game @slow delta
however during the stream, it was just a photo. He wasn't actually playing when Dondi was showing it

I know Broccoli, I was in the stream though during it

hexed flax
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@icy onyx this structure is not in the game right now

slow delta
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i mean if there's a similar wall design somewhere in game we can gauge how tall the symbol is since we can actually see the top of the wall

strange shell
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I think it can be some sort of mark. Like "let's rid this place of mercs" or "meet here". Like, tribals use these symboles to communicate.

icy onyx
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I think there are different tribes, each having their own symbol... this could be the tribe of the sun, or something XD

strange shell
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Or the tribe of the big circle with hands.

slow delta
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someone remind me to add the new picture of the stream to the docs later today

slow delta
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google doc updated with the new image

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also since i havent updated to evrima (and thus have access to older in-game files) can someone else check the evrima in game folders for new videos or gifs?

trim tiger
hexed flax
ebon basalt
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Fanmade

slow delta
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eh i was hyped for a second there

neon bobcat
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same, should probably clarify immediately whether it's official or not lol

outer verge
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Gotta love those ppl trying to force themselves into the lore

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Just realised that he took that clip with static from Anthomnias old video. Love that

slow delta
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yeah honestly it gets annoying. the devs didn't reply to the fan-made transmitter account so why even bother with more. just let them release lore stuff whenever they feel like it

river marsh
# outer verge Also, the dying man theory doesn't explain the drastic difference in the size of...

This and the above post: perhaps it likely could have been the remains of a raid on a mercenary camp. The tribals sacrificed them to the replicator, and then used the merc's blood mixed with maybe earth of other plant matter (like kato said) to mark the wall as a sort of victory sigil to demoralize any returning mercs. 5 hands. 5 tribals. There is old concept art of varying kinds of tribals. What if the smallest one is an adult female or adult male and the rest are just much larger? Do we have any frames of reference?

neon bobcat
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that's the only pic we have, but that's a really interesting way of seeing it, seems plausible

outer verge
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I'm more interested in what the image depicts rn, its creator might be solved easier after we know what it is supposed to be portraying. Skulls on spikes seem a much more likely victory sign. I believe the image has other meaning. Tho your theory is indeed interesting.

neon bobcat
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my guess is that it's a sign of worship towards something (someone?) that seems to be radiating stuff towards the tribals. I'm not very well versed on the lore but some people mentioned the replicator, so I'll go with that for now

outer verge
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About one subject to something completely else, is this still part of the lore or was it cut?

strange shell
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I thought it could be a worship symbol too, but why put one on one of AE's buildings ? This kind of painting belongs to religious places or villages.

icy onyx
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The tribals are worshipping the replicator for some goddamn reason. Maybe it's to rid themselves of this curse, that is the advent of Apollo and dinosaurs having interrupted their lives as peaceful islanders.

outer verge
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I am rather sure that tribals are worshipping the replicator to gain its favor. Since dondi has stated that it "definitely choses favorites" This kinda hints that something knows that is should not take favorites

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Also, this is something Dondi said on a stream about 2 years ago: "When it comes to having nothing but time in your hands and the whole bunch of death and worshipping something that brings you back repeatedly. I mean, wouldn't you build giant sacrificial temples to please em? I mean, I would."

hexed flax
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The replicator is a human consciousness. It knows that it shouldn't choose favourites but does it anyway because humans like the feeling of power that comes with being worshipped. An AI would just stick to it's code.

A profile is a human consciousness

neon bobcat
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We know plenty of ways that AI could go around its code without necessarily violating it. All it takes is one missing parameter and all of a sudden you got an intelligent AI that you have no control over. Things only get more complicated when you take into account the fact that there isn't exactly a sharp line between human consciousness and a sufficiently advanced AI.

outer verge
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Soma intensifies

sacred tartan
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I saw a poster on YouTube post this theory but I don't remember their name. Basically the poster's theory was that dinosaurs in the Isle were actually human who became dinosaurs through some experiment. As time passes, they slowly lose their humanity and their "self". I thought it was a pretty horrifying and interesting theory

safe ravine
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that sounds alot like something I said way back when in this channel when we were talking about what if it's human consciousness transferred to dino bodies like in avatar.

sacred tartan
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That's exactly it! I saw a comment like that on YouTube. Maybe it was you! Either way, it's a fascinating theory that has a lot of potential.

safe ravine
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lol nah I don't comment on YouTube videos but it's not a super unique idea so likely others thought about it too

neon bobcat
tough kite
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ok what if, scientist brang back dinosaurs and something went wrong destorying humanity

trim tiger
rain jacinth
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Unofficial

strange shell
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If humanity got destroyed, there wouldn't be any mercs in the game @tough kite

hexed flax
slow delta
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it's unofficial... no point in posting it here since it's only going to cause confusion and misinformation

ionic forum
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What I (might) know is uh-

So uh, humans got a cool idea, make dinosaurs in a very top secret corporation. The humans, or the Apollo Engineering people, bought this archipelago (group of islands). Then Phoenix corp. They had the kinda same idea, but more interesting. Now the corporations began making these hella weird mutants, and also began stealing eachother's mutant things. Now, back to The Isle itself, Apollo Engineering might have made the Replicator, that's either an intelligent AI or human consciousness, began like, making more dinosaurs or whatever it even does. One very strong thing caused problems in the containment system, freeing the dinosaurs, causing the humans to evacuate the islands. And now, we're here.

I basically put together people's ideas, so shoutout to you if you see something resembling your theory. Don't get mad, I love y'all.

Also tell me if something got wrong, but I won't update this bc yes

outer verge
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Whoever originally owned Isla Spero seems to have made some modifications to the local ecosystem. The fish species coming to the game that we so far know of are in some cases from opposite sides of the world.
Longear Sunfish - North America
Channel Catfish - North America
Muskellunge - North America
Forktailed Rainbowfish - Papua New Guinea
Hoplosternum:
Hoplosternum littorale - South America
Hoplosternum magdalenae - South America
Hoplosternum punctatum - Central South America
Coelacanth:
West Indian Ocean coelacanth - Mozambique, Comoro Islands, Madagascar (Critically Endangered)
Indonesian coelacanth - Papua
No one really needed this info but at least we know now that there seem to be no clues there

icy onyx
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There's also some plant species which appear to be introduced, such as Colocasia, or taro, which originates in Southeast Asia and India, as well as banana plants (also naturally originating in Asia though if the ones on Spiro are manmade cultivars, with seedless fruit intended for human consumption, or a wild species is uncertain)

outer verge
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Would it be likely that the island is somewhere either in the Indian ocean or in the pacific? I was earlier thinking that the emperor chain might be a possible location, but it doesn't have enough islands. Now I feel like the coast of Asia or Africa is more likely. Coast of Asia is littered with islands after all.

strange shell
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As for the imported species and plants, AE probably bringed them to sustain their dinos. Trying to give them something relatively close to what they could have eaten in the past.

icy onyx
thin lily
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What if some of the more problematic plants spread from gardens or planted plants for decoration? Because if everything went to hell the plants would spread beyond the human compounds over time

outer verge
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Assembling a complete list of all the flora on the island seems a bit precarious task. Probably studying the needs of plants that we know of is less of a hunt. The amount of rainfall they need, temperature, etc. It should be possible to position the island somewhere with suitable ocean currents and wind patterns. This is of course only possible if the developers have put the time and effort into such details. Which I, to be honest, find unlikely. Also Steel, I doubt that AE is a type of corporation to put much effort into outdoor gardens. Besides, it takes a while for even the most invasive species to take over island sized areas.

icy onyx
thin lily
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The grass probably already existed on the island before A.E set up shop, some of the more exotic ones might have been brought there

outer verge
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I mean, local fauna would be thrown into absolute chaos in the advent of introducing dinosaurs. Massive lizards would be likely to outcompete most of the more specialized native species. Curiously, the ecosystem is yet to collapse. If the animals escaped all at once and the surrounding ecosystem was not partially reconstructed to suit their needs, very few of the dinosaur species would have survived. The fact that the plants and some of the fauna do not match any specific area hints that this was done. Seems possible that the dinosaurs were purposefully released onto the island. For what outcome, we can only speculate.

noble harbor
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If it's the uploading of human consciousness, Spiro doesn't have to be on Earth necessarily....right? Kind of like in Avatar? I'm not sure how that works though. Maybe the different strains and more 'scary' creatures there are 'human consciousnesses' gone rogue...for lack of a better way to explain it. Kind of like AI left alone to gain intelligence, mutate and grow, they become independent, rejecting the monitoring systems, etc. I'm not sure though. (On a crazier note, maybe prisoners / bad folks are having their consciousness used for experimentation or the like...thus the 'redemption' idea part?)

icy onyx
# thin lily The grass probably already existed on the island before A.E set up shop, some of...

The grasslands appear to be a direct result of dinosaur and/or human activity. Though tribals could have (maybe) been deliberately causing forest fires to find prey like deer or fowl more easily, large sauropods (e.g. brachiosaurus and apatosaurus) could be deforesting the island as well. There aren't many species of grass. There's reeds at river banks, and then the bulk of grass in plains is some sort of warm season grass.

outer verge
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(Or it might just be a map feature to improve the gameplay experience)

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I could roll along with your theory if there were some actual signs of human activity. Fallen or charred tree trunks, stumps, or something like it. The grasslands are currently just empty. No signs of changing or unstable surroundings in the plantlife or anything like it. The plant life on the island feels very lifeless in general. That kinda just convinces me that the devs have not put that much effort into the way they implement their plants.

icy onyx
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Having more depth with plant life would be cool (and I'm a plant nerd, so I'm clearly in support).

outer verge
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Yeah same, I absolutely love all types of plant life.

delicate anchor
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Does primordial carnage have anything with the isle lore?

shy delta
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Primordial carnage TI_sucho

Yes, the original primal carnage and the isle are in the same universe

delicate anchor
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🤌

tough kite
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what if its a time paradox in the bermuda triangle

strange shell
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It's not

next raft
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there not the same universe but the isle has the same past as pc

icy onyx
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what is the lore? I don't know much apart from pc and ti being in the same universe.

next raft
icy onyx
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ty

void apex
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T-T

short linden
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If Evrima was there all along before it was found out, maybe there was some other peculiar and mysterious creatures we may encounter?

slow delta
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@cinder atlas hey Gar can you please nuke this convo?

hexed flax
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^

feral pond
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Cleaning this place up

glass forge
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could be like this- you spawn , and you and your team( as you spawned with a group of 3-5) immediately have to find a hiding spot, as overhead the helicopter that dropped you off fly's away. you only have a weak pistol with 5 rounds, light body armor, and a bad headlamp. because you spawn with so little, you and the others who also spawned in the helicopter must find a base. once you locate one, you must rid it of potential dinos, and then a lightweight door spawns at the entrance. you then must reinforce the shelter before nightfall with the varying amount of recourses found in the base. at the dawn of the next day you must find food and water, as you used all your recourses the night before. you then must decide what to. its a dangerous place, and your only hope of getting off the island is to die, to collect the things the company who hired you need in order to pay you, or don't get off, and become a freak of nature, along with everything else, on the isle.- this is my take on how you could spawn as a mercenary.

slow delta
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This is more gameplay related and not lore related

icy onyx
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the isle the isle is a island off the west coast of south america of dinosaurs on a remote island off the maps the government of north america and south america keep this island under the raps. A federations named A.E keep this place under the raps if any one where to find it who knows what danger could happen the island is called evrima and they seem to find new creatures every day and make new creatures...some of these creatures they make like genius H or as u know them to be hypos these jiant beast are huge and there size is smaller when compared to there destructive power 1 hypo carno could destroy a whole entire ecosystem and that is nothing when it comes to bigger type H'S like the hypo spino and rex they do plan on making new type h creatures who know's what could happen. There is also talk of older islands like evrima there saying evrima is rather new that is all i kno- blood dripping (DISCLAIMER! VISITING EVRIMA OR ANY OF THE ISLANDS IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN IF YOU DO VISIT U WILL BE SHOT OR MOST LIKELY GET AN LONG TERM SENTENCE! TELL ANYONE OF THIS MESSAGE THEM AND U WILL BE PUNISHED!)

vestal summit
icy onyx
# icy onyx the isle the isle is a island off the west coast of south america of dinosaurs...

Correction: We do not know where Isla Spiro (the tropical Evrima map) is, but it's most likely off the coast of South or Central America, based on the name (but it also has a bunch of plant species from Asia, like Bananas, so it may be elsewhere).
But basing off the name, it's probably named by Spanish or Portuguese people who landed there prior to the manmade introduction of Dinosaurs.
A few centuries after probable discovery, Apollo Engineering (aka Apollo or A.E.), a genetics and (possibly) military company, buy the island, then they clone a bunch of modified Dinosaurs (for as of now unknown reasons), and, probably without knowing, have also disturbed the peaceful lives of the island's indigenous people.
Something happens and then the clones break out. They turn out to form a coherent ecosystem (if not a bit unstable due to the ammount of large carnivores)

outer verge
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I feel like the tribals may not be native to the island. There are multiple tweets from Olympus Transmitter that hint at them being created by the corp(s). They are also referred to as generation 1 which raises the question, where does generation 2 come from?

icy onyx
slow delta
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we require more lore stuff to decode, devs pls

tawdry sand
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dondi

outer verge
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Anyone ,_,

hexed flax
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I hope that the "Guts" will be added in update 3 and that it adds more lore stuff

shy delta
slow delta
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yeah cool but like, the point is to have lore content in it and not just be empty

hexed flax
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There are supposed to be paintings inside the cave

regal locust
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Nothing has been confirmed to be inside of the Guts.

carmine bone
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not even blood? TI_Troll

mighty abyss
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wow a whole lot of nothing

forest carbon
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@outer verge With the name 'Isla Spero', Its very likely to be somewhere in spanish colonized waters.

neon bobcat
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it might also just be the name given to it by AE, and not relevant to its geographical location whatsoever

forest carbon
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that would infer that AE are a spanish speaking company? seems unlikely.

neon bobcat
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it would infer that AE simply likes the sound of Isla Spero, which isn't that unlikely

forest carbon
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companies don't really do that, Islands are named in the language of the area or the language of the people who own/found it. It's like calling an island off of the coast of Australia that was found/claimed by English speaking people 'île jaune". Doesn't make sense.

neon bobcat
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I know, what I'm saying is that until we have confirmation it's important to keep in mind that the name may not be relevant to its location

forest carbon
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I'm not denying that, but as I say, with the given facts its likely going to be somewhere in Spanish colonized waters

outer verge
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It is very plausible and even probable that the island is somewhere near North America since the only countries that are apparently capable of coming up with super-secret high tech companies are the USA, Russia, and maybe the UK

strange shell
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Apollo Engineering is probably an american corporation, true. But that doesn't mean they have to stick to american coasts.

outer verge
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They may have assets around the globe, yeah.

icy onyx
stuck fern
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Apollo engineering = Phoenix v2? Perhaps. We all heard the Ptera in the transmission video

icy onyx
next raft
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its spiro i think spero is the other isle coming to evrima

stark yoke
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its not a different island. they just misspelled it the first few times

next raft
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lol

placid glacier
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Spiro/Spero means something

shy delta
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Speros a different island, it's bigger than spiro iirc

icy onyx
outer verge
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According to the all-mighty Google Translate 'Spero' translates to hope or expect. 'Spiro' means breath, din, and/or rough.

forest carbon
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@icy onyx Spero is also a spanish word, as a lot of spanish is derived from latin.

icy onyx
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Esperar was derived from Sperare

slow delta
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now imagine the island names are codephrases used by AE and not the actual island names kek

outer verge
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I-5 af

prime meteor
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😳

thick badge
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Well judging by the environment, it looks to be tropical

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Also spero and spiro are different. Devs ran into a problem with spero so they bootlegged spiro into existence. Explains why the environment, such as the lack of small streams through forests and hillier areas exist

random aurora
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@icy onyx Spero is also a spanish word, as a lot of spanish is derived from latin.
@forest carbon spero its not spanish. espero is spanish, it means "i hope" or "im waiting (something)" depending on the context

safe ravine
random aurora
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I did not see that coming

next raft
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and hope was the name of the trailer

icy onyx
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So an English name for the island would be "Hope Island"

blissful forge
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personally i dont think this game is based on earth... no where i know on earth is it night time longer then day time and is tropical and rains this much... even the artics is more one sided and trades depending on season

pseudo shadow
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It was AlIenS

strange shell
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I think that's because it's a video game

ionic forum
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personally i dont think this game is based on earth... no where i know on earth is it night time longer then day time and is tropical and rains this much... even the artics is more one sided and trades depending on season
@blissful forge

So uh, as a Finnish person I can say that nights are hecka long, especially on winter. But because The Isle currently has no hecka T H I C C snow and is tropical I can't prove it's somewhere north-and-a-littlebit-south.

neon bobcat
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It being based on Earth or not is pretty irrelevant, it changes nothing in regards to the rest of the lore other than reinforce the fact that anything is possible.

Though I guess one possible solution to that could be that the island is covered by a dome of some sort that allows AE to decide when day/night/seasons are

outer verge
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That Hunger games dome is a fun and exciting theory but it seems a bit unlikely to me since making a dome that massive would be an enormous undertaking.

neon bobcat
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This is a company capable of bringing back dinosaurs and creating mutant monsters we're talking about here. Hunger games dome isn't that far fetched considering their known accomplishments

celest imp
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anyone else excited to see how the cannibal will react with attacking normal people? Like we know it can climb walls and stuff. itll be a major horror game for those guys. got dinos outside and cannibals even trying to jump on u and bite ur face off.

strange shell
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But they do ignore gravity on dinos animations

outer verge
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They do ngl

blissful forge
fiery island
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Isn't it a force field and not literally a dome?

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We know Apollo Engineering is capable of some wack stuff, like bringing back dinosaurs and what not, but you could also tie this back to the theory that the dinos in the isle are actually cyborgs, or perhaps are being controlled by some exterior force. Maybe even Apollo Engineering themselves?

strange shell
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Dinos likely have chips installed in their body/their brain. And they might also have actual human minds inside of them.

next raft
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so what i think is going on with some of this is for like isla spero/spiro is they have made an ecosystem i dont think theres a replicator on these island and its prob a while before it was even made then when they made the replicator is when everything fails so the isle isnt about dinos thats the problem its the replicator(i think) so its an ai apocalypse story

vocal violet
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Actually I remember something that the original release of each map was formally gonna be done that way because of lore reasons

runic coral
outer verge
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"Hope for a better tomorrow" af

plucky hollow
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i think i have an idea

void apex
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Dont say that you have an idea and then dont give it

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I am waiting for it

hexed flax
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Same

rotund wyvern
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im new hre

ornate seal
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His idea was not told

next raft
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i dont think thats what he meant

outer verge
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Well we wont really know what he meant

next raft
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not the same just similar i dont think theres a connection

next raft
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so you think this is with higher sea lvls

mighty abyss
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I have a theory about this game

minor lava
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Let’s hear it

strange shell
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Why would the island be named Isla Spiro if it's West Point Island ? I'm pretty sure it's fictional

carmine bone
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is the island a man made island or smt?

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though I don't think that they're the same, especially since before evrima's release the devs showed off 1 or 2 other islands

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oh and also you accidentally cut off the tip of spero so here's it without the tip missing, I do see similarities but I doubt they're connected

jaunty radish
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well map that big, that would be something, for kids to starve faster and cry about it :d

carmine marsh
pure lodge
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that part of the map looks like a majungasaurus i find

icy onyx
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What

chrome acorn
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majung lore

lavish acorn
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dead chat

lavish gyro
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every chat except offtopic ded

whole zephyr
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I think, theoretically, that there may be dinosaurs on this island.

icy onyx
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Spero will (very likely) be retconned considering how bloody big it is.

neon bobcat
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unless we're able to have a ridiculous amount of players in a single server, yeah I think so too

pure zodiac
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We'd just have to see what'll happen after 100% of the map is opened up to us.

grand pier
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you'll just have to wait until after the test.

hasty fox
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i know this is for lore theories but lemme ask this what do you guys think they did to clone the animals to begin with im pretty sure everyone should know by now how the hypos are made ad what they are made for but what about the normal animals

plucky hollow
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the lore, the isle lore hs been bogoling my mind for the past 5 years, so its time, to put an end. in the load up screen of the isle, we see that its a globe, a 3D globe, know it is in my theory, that humans found an island untouched bye the astroid, then as soon as all humans do, try to control it, they tried to make it a zoo, soon they realized that they could not contain it, te humans started to die, the cages broke, and the dinosaurs let free, soon the whole world herd about this news, and they ALL tried to controll it, they made towers, and dams and buildings, but they all came to the same fate, death, it could not be contained but one company wouldnt give up, at port, they started to research, take DNA samples from regular dinosaurs, and they tried to recreate them to bring them back to the main land, but the reacreaction failed, and instead, they made hypos, the hypos QUICKLY broke out and caused havick

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then, after that they hypos destroyed the ecosystem, with only one hypo of each, they could not repraduce, the hypos ate all of the dinosaurs with no match to its own power, then they all starved, the lore to EVERMA is that the humans realized dinosaurs should remain extinct, so many many years later, they started to make an island for the dinosaurs, one that could be contained, they created blue barriers, to stop them from breacking the barrier, but know the humans have a controlled ecosystem,

grand pier
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how would it be hard to contain dinosaurs from an island? why would the hypos be so perfect at killing things if it was just a big mistake? why the fuck would the port be the research center even though it would quickly be invaded by dinosaurs that could somehow travel from islands to continents?

how the hell could humans waste billions of dollars and create a giant wall that blocks off an entire island instead of nuking the whole place to ashes

plucky hollow
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BRO CHILL THE HELL OUT ITS JUST A THEORY geese

thorny scaffold
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🙂

topaz tundra
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critical hit

icy onyx
carmine bone
grand pier
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i don't know

hasty fox
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to be completely honest the pteranodons know about the main land more than likely 🤷 how the water animals that are "planned" for the future i have no clue how those will stay to the island when they can swim away

safe ravine
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I think special barrier like on Spero keeps things in, the replicator sees to it that its pets are contained >:)

carmine bone
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maybe if they go too far they get electrocuted and DIE TI_RIP

molten valve
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majunga lore

quiet sorrel
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they could have some neural chip that makes them stay or their brains altered to some extent to make them not want to leave the islands perimeters. There also could be some sort of massive force field keeping them in but that would raise the question of how the mercenaries get in without releasing the specimens.

outer verge
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If the island is all the animals have ever known it wouldn't seem likely that they tried actively leave it. They don't know the mainland exists. However, if the animals are more than your average dinos something along the lines of neural chips would indeed make sense. Tho note that the animals are capable of reproducing so the newborn animals would lack the chip and would have to be chipped individually.

sterile gazelle
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everytime when i read the weird stuff the developers put in this game like "you are being controlled" "i cannot choose favourites" i always feel scared idk why it has such a creepy atmosphere

bronze moth
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yep i just confirmed this theory these red dots are on top of the most well-known paleontological sites including the famous hell crek formation

next raft
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i think people look where some r irl and saw nothing so its prob just for deco

fringe flame
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bruh if u think about it and just maybe pteradons cant fly forever @carmine bone

icy onyx
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The only place in Finland where you can collect fossils is Åland (and there it's just trilobites n stuff)

void apex
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Åland is pretty cool

harsh light
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I mean the dinosaurs are from different periods of time so do you think they brought them back and put them all on one island to keep away from the world to view there behaviour as one unity.

icy onyx
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Seems like a Jurassic world view

outer verge
outer verge
harsh light
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I’m just thinking how do different species of dinosaurs from different periods, it’s hard to explain it without it sounding like Jurassic park

outer verge
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I think it's fair tbh. The Isle has pretty clearly been heavily inspired by JP. The dinosaur noises and general concepts are often quite similar. This is one of Jurassic Park 4s early concepts. Looks pretty familiar ngl.

harsh light
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Fair enough

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I was just thinking because the animals just like Jurassic park aren’t accurate to the latest findings, so do you think it was an evolutional factor or just like Jurassic park where they filled the DNA with other creatures.

outer verge
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I think it's ✨creative freedom

harsh light
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Good point

grand pier
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that thing is the kim kardashian of monsters

silent crown
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If thats in the isle im getting a refund

harsh light
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XD

icy onyx
icy onyx
vapid phoenix
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Ay yo does anyone have a doc with the isle's ominous messages

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I have no idea what they're called, I just know I want to read them again

supple seal
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the what?

vapid phoenix
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It was a doc relating to the studies of the strains/matriarch

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found iiit

slow delta
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Pinned messages

icy onyx
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well from i know you are a human connected by a device to your selected creature

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and basically AE is playing god by modifying creatures

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as seen by the type-N spino and all of the other type´s , that could also mean that any dino is modified by default to be balanced in the eco system of the islands

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the title screen shows many of the modified specimen

rapid hawk
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hm

sacred tartan
outer verge
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Yeah exactly

little herald
uneven bluff
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Guy this might be a bit of a stretch but

outer verge
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But..?

next raft
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the dinos have chips in them or something in legacy that make them not wanna be by buildings made they did the same on spiro

uneven bluff
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rough thorn
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I never understood the chip explanation

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Ain't no way a bunch of humans just chipped dinosaurs that were born on the island. There would be too many. Maybe the ones that spawned in, but dinosaurs nested in wouldn't have a chip and I doubt humans traveled to these dangerous places just to chip animals in sn attempt to keep them away from their abandoned facilities

strange shell
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Actually devs talked about "benefits" from being nested in the future
Some people think that the benefit is that you don't have a chip, and as such you can go near buildings without getting radio parasites.
Sounds cooler than just bonus perks tbh, although it's quite unlikely.

carmine bone
icy onyx
thorny scaffold
rough thorn
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It makes no sense tho. The chips are not a biological component of the animals and thus cannot be passed on through breeding. So hatchlings shouldn't have a chip

icy onyx
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since you as a human in game interact with a device that allows you to be the dino throught the chip

thorny scaffold
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"You're actually a human controlling the dinosaur" theory doesn't make sense

shy delta
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^ why would a human ever want to possess a dinosaur, there's no rhyme nor reason to it

rough thorn
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The theory only makes sense if you are dropped into the map as your dinosaur. But animals born on the island have no connection to humans and thus cannot posses a chip. Yet, we can still play as them. I also want to know how this whole theory started to begin with, cause it sounds ridiculous

shy delta
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I guess because of the radio static? It makes little to no sense

icy onyx
thorny scaffold
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Same way a human being can live their life with chronic back pain.

rough thorn
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There are better ways to explain that. Maybe a high pitched sound that annoys the animals when they approach buildings. Chips wouldn't even make sense if that were the base of the theory . All the animals are humanly modified, that doesn't mean they are controlled by people. If an animal is born with a certain reality of pain it will grow into the idea that it's normal. Throw a frog in a pot of water and slowly boil it and the frog will slowly get used to the temperature and cook itself alive

icy onyx
thorny scaffold
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I don't think the Neuro Spino lives in pain, and if it does I don't see what that has to do with this chip stuff.

rough thorn
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That would mean the animals are mechanical in some way. Once again, a chip couldn't do that and nothing we have seen suggests the animals are mechanical in some way. How is this a theory?

icy onyx
shy delta
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Just a lil tummy ache

rough thorn
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Ok, and? The strains have some level of legitimacy but every animal cannot possess a chip. Most of these animals can breed and create hatchlings without chips

icy onyx
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this is the only picture we have so far revealing the truth about strains so far

thorny scaffold
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That image proves literally nothing. That could've been the animal being brought back to a base after being killed.

icy onyx
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so strains are being born in the wild now TI_Wheeze

grand pier
rough thorn
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As I have stated, the strains make viable sense when it comes to chips and remote controlling. Everything outside of the strains does not. The other animals can breed. No human is gonna risk their life chipping animals on a dangerous island just do someone else can control it

thorny scaffold
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When did I say that? Yes, the strains were created, but they weren't placed on a floor and put together like puzzle pieces. And nowhere does the image show a chip being placed.

shy delta
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I highly doubt strains are manufactured that way, gentic tampering is our best bet

icy onyx
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So the hyper/hypocondirin strain and it's successor, the Magnus strain, can breed in the wild.

blissful willow
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pretty sure the hypos being able to breed is just a mistake and not gonna be a real feature

shy delta
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The limited time a hyper has would be spent hunting constantly, i highly doubt they're capable of breeding

thorny scaffold
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My theory: You are playing as the dinosaur because that's the point of this video game.

rough thorn
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Hypers are meant to starve to death, not breed. They will not focus on breeding, only hunting

icy onyx
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Primal Carnage's rexes stem from a single parent, "Big Daddy" (Phoenix's first cloned dinosaur in the game's lore, with the genetic material stemming from Apollo's type M rex, applying the list of assets Phoenix stole from them)

shy delta
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I dont think any of the strains are capable of breeding, could be wrong on that

I think it's the other way around soup

high heath
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Actually, we have no clue on the M breeding, since Magna is basically the Primal Carnage version of our animals...

icy onyx
grand pier
blissful willow
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hypos being able to breed is easily a mistake/something that will be removed

shy delta
grand pier
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next you'll say that hatchling suchos being able to nest is a lore thing

icy onyx
# shy delta <@456226577798135808>

Ah ok. I thought it was the other way round. Secondly, in Primal Carnage, the dinosaurs have been implied to have bred out in the wild (well the other species such as the spitters, the pterosaurs and the raptors, have)

shy delta
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It's confirmed not implied i think

rough thorn
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The point of this is that chips controlling animals makes no sense biologically and mechanically. That theory should just be put under raps

icy onyx
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Yeah in the game, you most likely are playing as as a regular dinosaur, not as one with a control chip implanted in its brain.

rough thorn
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Let's not mention the fact that the amount of people controlling all the animals would be incredibly high. Thousands of people spending in-game years of their lives as an animal that is going to die in the end

outer verge
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Could this be the "thousand life contract" that one of the official soundtracks of the game refers to?

icy onyx
rough thorn
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Cannibals are said to not actually be human and instead are genetic amalgamations involving human DNA. Kidnapping humans would be highly inefficient when all these people want is a naturalized environment where they can test biological weapons. It wouldn't make sense in the long run

outer verge
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Dondi said he's going to be streaming later tonight for a second time. Is anyone able to be there just in case the stream has some spoilers? In the stream that just ended following stuff was briefly mentioned:

  • Hypo fences
  • Enclosures / giant gates
  • Rocks for quarry wall
    Nothing exactly specific or exiting but oh well
slender swift
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So my theory is, basicly there is this big company (like ingen) that created dinos to resarch their behaviors against certan conditions. Later when they've got the tech and the budget to do something bigger, they installed all dinos with neural thing thingies that give them controll over the body of the sellected dinoaur. And once they had enough thec they added the neural thing thingy to the genetic code of all dinos. Stupid theory. Ok. Sad ;-;

shy delta
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I guess the bigger company could be phoenix corp?

icy onyx
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the isle corp is Apollo Engineering and primal carnage corp is Phoenix Corporation and it is public knowledge that these 2 are connected

shy delta
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Theres a google doc i think
Should have most if not all the details

rustic nexus
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^ I advise reading the website too

thick badge
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it makes much more sense that the devs making the recode is just a retcon of the original, confusing mess that was the old lore

icy onyx
strange shell
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btw, isn't Thronebreaker the name of Primal Carnage's spino ?

vast storm
next raft
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in the isle its the hypo rex

icy onyx
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In Primal Carnage I'm pretty sure the Thronebreaker project was about creating a Spinosaurus clone (which succeeded, with an individual nicknamed "Badass")

rustic pagoda
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does anybody kno how to become mercanary

warm nest
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It’s not in the game yet

next raft
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i think is was for a few days but all u could do was walk around and die

slow delta
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Thronebreaker is most certainly the spino and not the hyper rex

icy onyx
next raft
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wasnt it confirmed that it was tho pc was hspino and ti was hrex

slow delta
#

what

slow delta
# icy onyx Yep. It was the name of the project, not the individual.

i mean in the pinned messages there's misinformation from a hyper rex wip where it's called the thronebreaker. the primal carnage spino is also called the thronebreaker. but since the console stream refers to the thronebreaker during operation inferno, we can conclude that the thronebreaker actually refers to the spino and not the hyper rex. now afaik there's no such thing as a project thronebreaker, it's just a nickname like alphonse or big daddy from primal carnage

icy onyx
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Ok makes sense

thick badge
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my theory is that the lore makes no sense so the devs are rebooting the lore as well as the gameplay with evrima XD

lapis sail
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I always thought that dots on the cover page map were places where the dinos in the game were originally discovered.

mighty abyss
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assuming it had lore to begin with

fast knot
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You know the devs should make another game like the isle but in ice age

hasty ocean
carmine bone
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how'd they fit it into the lore tho?

carmine bone
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to clarify the isle is attached to primal carnage in lore right?

rain meteor
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no

strange shell
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yes it is

rain meteor
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no

next raft
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it is but there is a timeline split pce is not related to the isle but pc is

rain meteor
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dondi wanted to do that but they say no (i thunk)

neon bobcat
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fuck knows at this point

strange shell
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The Isle and Primal Carnage (minus Exctinction) have interconnected lore. Phoenix Corp (the organization that made PC dinos) is a rival of Apollo Engineering (the corporation that made dinos in The Isle)

next raft
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and dondi used to be a pc dev i think

carmine bone
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he was I'm pretty sure

icy onyx
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Yeah but he did a terrible job at it (failed to do a proper patch, and then proceeded to make the game go downhill with his proposal of a recode)

next raft
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hmmmm

carmine bone
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sounds weirdly similar

hexed flax
little herald
high heath
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Yeah, nothing to do with coding.

tulip jungle
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Isle Lore in a nutshell: Dinos

frosty girder
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Deinosuchus was an inside job

balmy moat
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its all a dream

torpid adder
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jet fuel doesn't melt elder rex

lofty jetty
mighty abyss
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hypo acro did recode

void path
stoic void
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Fan made

void path
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was hoping this was legit, this a better hypo rex update to me then the concept art done

carmine bone
neon bobcat
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well it is a hyper

void path
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well you can tell whoever made it that, idk who it is, i screenshot it from an isle news video

void path
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tailend of this video so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qg38alFrNY

The future of The Isle Evrima looks brilliant with Elders and ''something more terrifying'', we players can choose from if certain perk paths, diets are followed on specific dinosaurs. Is Tyrannosaurus Rex arriving in Evrima sooner than we expect as surprise? Is balance in-game gonna be out of balance with Elders? I don't mind as it gives an act...

▶ Play video
stoic void
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I found where it came from #isle-fan-art message

void path
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still would prefer that to the official re-design, actually still looks like the hypo rex we all know

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and it fits better aesthetically with the other existing hypo models for the other species better than the old or new rex

vocal violet
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The transmitter is active!!!!!

naive crane
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So i guess olympus transmiters are like a once a year thing?

austere folio
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looks like really fudged up morse code

sudden nexus
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someone give me the tl'dr of this transmission shiz niz

nimble girder
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this is what it said:

A̶r̴e̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̷ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̸ ̷
̶ ̸ ̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸Y̷o̵u̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̸ ̶ ̸ ̵ ̷ ̶
̵ ̵ ̶ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̷ ̸ ̸S̸t̴i̴l̴l̴ ̵ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴
̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴ ̸ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̵ ̴H̵e̷r̴e̴?̸ ̸ ̶

robust ether
hazy void
carmine bone
hazy void
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Oh cool I’m like half asleep I just got the ping that they posted

icy onyx
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it’s probably relating to Dondi’s recent tweet about the lore

past trench
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what did he tweet can you possibly link it?

icy onyx
unborn creek
slow delta
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Ugh huh... we shall see

novel cosmos
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Can someone explain to me what the lore of this game is or at least the best theory
Cause I seem to be lost

slow delta
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Check the pins

past trench
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Ah okay fair enough

icy onyx
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Well, not much on this transmission but hopefully it'll pick up some momentum

unborn creek
glass terrace
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the isle novel TI_TheEndIsNigh

cunning halo
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Are the lines some sort of Morse code again? 😵

rain crystal
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OH FUQ TRANSMITTOR'S BACK

slow delta
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no it's just a "spooky" filter

rain crystal
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portal turret voice are you still there? :3
the lines seem a little too regular to be morse, but it wouldn't surprise me. think it's just supposed to be a visual way of representing static or a slightly garbled message
spoopy.

hexed flax
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He used Unicode signs to make the text look like this

frosty girder
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Is it a teaser for human content?

minor lava
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no but the devs have talked about them
unless you count the buildings as human content

frosty girder
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The transmission I mean. Makes sense it would be human related...

cunning halo
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Guess so, dinosaurs can't read... TI_Think

frosty girder
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That was my exact line of thinking haha... but also they don't use the radio, so i would assume the mercs who use the radio

carmine bone
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I think the transmission is people at the Olympus Transmitter trying to see if anyone anyone at the Olympus Receiver is still alive or there, and considering they've only gotten one response from the receiver two years ago and none more since Imma guess they dead

novel cosmos
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what killed them doe

swift robin
hexed flax
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Scary matriarch

nova cypress
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Bat thing

rain crystal
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yeah if i remember correctly, it's implied by the conversations with the profiles (see pins) that the matriarch or echidna is the "what went wrong." that or a virus that caused humans to become cannibalistic dinosaur-hybrids.
or both! could be both

nova helm
olive glacier
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I was thinking that the last transmission was asking if anyone made it to Evrima cause it showed the door the EVRIMA and then the last transmission so it kinda makes sense right?

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What white pillar

gloomy brook
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the one they said wasnt related to lore lol

cinder atlas
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Take a gander at the channel description, folks.

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Tolerance in here is very diminutive.

robust ether
rain crystal
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bear in mind, all transmissions start with the text "//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION". that and it's never been a dialogue between two transmitters as far as I know. if this one was a response, to check and see if anyone's still out there, what does that make all the other messages? is the transmitter just broadcasting into the void?

robust ether
carmine bone
icy onyx
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So wait theres a reciever? It on twitter?

slow delta
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out-of-canon explanation, the AE-12 transmitter was the first transmitter which didn't make posts on twitter but joined the voice channels and played morse code. Likely, when the idea of the transmitter became cemented, they made a proper account for it in the new olympus transmitter

hexed flax
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Ngl the AE-12 morse code transmitter sounded like a great idea

rain crystal
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i imagine everyone would end up missing lore 'cause no one's willing to sit shifts in the transmitter channel

nocturne cosmos
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trust me people would sit in that vc for hours taking shifts was all ways atleast 10 people in the vc for the morse code

hexed flax
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^ definitely me on my days off of work

flint rain
#

Just here to ask if anyone has this strange.txt file in their downloads too? Like I literally cleaned my PC up and stumbled upon this file. I scnned it. Doesnt seem to be something bad and its just Text that goes like :

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I ...
They
Seeking
Save.
I ...

all over ? like many many times ??? I really have no idea where this comes from but seemed pretty isle like to me ?

hexed flax
robust ether
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Hold the fuck on so something replicated/is replicating a section of Region2 on Spiro? I need some bigger brained people to talk more about this.

icy onyx
rough thorn
grim osprey
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It was the dinosaurs

robust ether
# icy onyx Region 2 is being implimented into isla spiro

Yes but the transmitter also acknowledged it, so wouldn't that mean that the island/something on the island (IE: replicator but if that can shape the island like this then woo) is replicating part of Region 2 on Spiro in cannon?

safe ravine
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bet the replicator just misses seeing dinos do sick flips into cannonball

sleek temple
#

i thought u meant an actual cannonball not the lake

prime meteor
#

dinosaurs

lavish gyro
#

heh

robust ether
stoic dome
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ops sorry

flint rain
hexed flax
flint rain
# hexed flax Just send it to me in a DM

Will do later as I am currently on my phone and also turned my laptop into a helicopter yesterday as I seemingly damaged one badly soldered cable on one of my fans while cleaning the dust out. It's freaking loud and my gf is currently still sleeping 😅

hexed flax
#

Okay

frigid kettle
vague root
slow delta
hazy void
#

What were the 3 options from when the lore first started? I know there was Godfather (Which is what khorne chose), but i cant remember the other 2

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during the streams

echo gazelle
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All-Father, Throne-Breaker and Alphonse iirc

robust ether
hazy void
unreal forge
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I'm so excited that after a whole year the transmitter has become active and that there is something out there looking to see if there is anyone left. On a different topic I think the google doc needs to be updated to include the 2 new transmission.