#isle-lore-theories
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Just ask the people in #401464048610312195 that’s how I got my info
mfw there wasn't a stream about the secret
Well not about the thing itself but it was discussed during a stream
it wasn't. someone asked amarok 1 question about it and he said nothing bout it
Yeah but I’m pretty sure they said something once saying it wasn’t any of those things I listed
@icy onyx what makes you so sure? Please check you memories about where you got this from:
- was it from #401464048610312195 channel or during a streamed session on twitch or some let's play video on youtube or other platform?
- who said / dis-confirmed these things? A dev? What is her/his name?
@tribal mirage How do you know you didn't miss that said stream?
cause the roadmap literally came out during the whole stream drought. ive seen all the most recent amarok streams and hes said nothing about it. also yes what we know of so far is from punch in isle discussion
Hello
isle lore theory: dondi doesnt know the full lore of his game and instead just has a handful of cool ideas that could go together in some way, and he only reveals a few of them to convince his community that theres "deep lore" but its actually just 'mutated dinosaur look cool', so his brainwashed community says 'dondi is the only one who knows the full lore of the game' when its right in front of their faces that clearly the lore is inconsistent and changes all the time, instead whats happening is his community is theorizing and piecing 'the story' together, convinced they're unlocking secrets for some deep, complicated lore, but the community is just convincing themselves that they know the "full lore" of the game, and not dondi, basically doing the lore-building themselves. (which is whats been happening for 4 years), and why this channel exists
mega iq ^^
@ionic badge let me guess you came here from r/theisle?
ive only been on reddit 2 times in my entire life and neither of those times were spent on r/theisle
Lore's inconsistent mainly because it isn't the focus rn
this is just what ive seen over the years, there are websites where all the 'lore' is compiled by fans of this game and even they cant really explain the inconsistencies. The employees (but mostly the community) say "only dondi knows the full lore", which to me just means there isnt any 'full lore' or any 'complete story' and dondi just has a handful of cool ideas in his head and hasnt actually written down anything. its hard to believe that only the creator of the game, who doesnt even make the models for buildings or the creatures, doesnt tell his employees the lore behind what theyre making. It would be like "make mutant versions of these dinosaurs" and then he gives them a theme to go by (hypo, neuro) and thats it. the ideas are cool, not gonna lie, but the lore makes no sense
Tbf, what would even be the point of actually making up some highly complex lore and putting it in the game when the game's not exactly yknow... fully done. Or at least mostly done
I agree, i think the lore should be set up in the far future, maybe when they have at least the dinosaurs finished. I just cannot believe that dondi has some sort of multi-stage, longterm plan for the lore in this game
yup, imo best time for lore to be actively put out would be when mercs would be implemented as humans would have access to stuff like labs, etc
tbh you make some good points glow
yeah but unfortunately at this rate i dont know if the majority of the community is even going to want humans in this game, theres a lot of people who only want dinosaurs now and looking back at how insane the 'lore' gets with the hypo colossus and cannibals, and the dev team will be like "this was always the plan" but its not gonna happen for another few years at least.
I agree with glowsquidward ngl
oh i thought you were being sarcastic earlier when you said 'mega iq' haha
I mean yeah, all the lore we know of is super cool and I think it could be really neat if it's implemented in game, but I agree it's likely just a conglomeration of loose ideas and not a fully flushed out story
exactly
ok
👀
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/760565493882421258 🤓 ackshually dondi according to filipe has told them or at least briefly explained the lore to the other devs
shhhh fulgore
maybe there is a plan with the lore 
just speculation
i know 
isle lore theory: dondi doesnt know the full lore of his game and instead just has a handful of cool ideas that could go together in some way, and he only reveals a few of them to convince his community that theres "deep lore" but its actually just 'mutated dinosaur look cool', so his brainwashed community says 'dondi is the only one who knows the full lore of the game' when its right in front of their faces that clearly the lore is inconsistent and changes all the time, instead whats happening is his community is theorizing and piecing 'the story' together, convinced they're unlocking secrets for some deep, complicated lore, but the community is just convincing themselves that they know the "full lore" of the game, and not dondi, basically doing the lore-building themselves. (which is whats been happening for 4 years), and why this channel exists
@ionic badge completely agree tbh
which is one of the reasons why our doc doesnt focus on speculation but simply solving the riddles we're given from time to time. it's fun.
yeah its great fun for the community, nothing wrong with that, a lot of cool ideas were thrown around and the community does a good job at finding ways to put them together, but case and point is, Dondi does not have a fully flushed-out story or plan for the lore. Kind of ironic I guess
the lore is pretty much a rough outline of: "jurassic park but darker" which is rather underwhelming cause they can do so much more with it
Well...the books of Jurassic Park and The Lost World are dark. The Isle is more "Dinos and Mutants", so like Uncharted 1 mixed with Primal Carnage/Jurassic Park.
I do think that lore should not really be a focus until most stuff is complete but my only fear is how long is the isle going to stay relevant to other games, people might just move onto other games in like a year or two
people have been moving on to other games since 2016, the original community is almost completely gone. thats what happens when the development is so slow and the game is nowhere near to what its supposed to be
Well since dondi is apparently not working on maps or anything for the isle, he could work on the lore
yeah, he could, but i think we all now he wont
😔
Coming back to the "Top Secret" road map item once more:
1.: I have to apologize for the noise in this channel - that TS road map item is not related to lore - I did some more research and found that Punchpacket confirmed that in #401464048610312195
2.: someone might have found that already but just for completeness: the trailer used for that TS road map item is a cut & paste from the Hope trailer:
Top Secret trailer: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/724315975369097286/751529692405825547/AE_Top_Secret.mp4
Hope trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwRqaRG2Zo
- At the end of the Hope trailer you can see the very same background gimmicks as seen in the Top Secret trailer - same HEX, same bits, same message, etc. at the end it shortly overlays the Phoenix Intl. Logo full screen instead of just overlaying the globe on the bottom left.
So as of today I am sure there is no hidden information in that trailer in regards to what the TS road map item is about. Devs just recycled this video sequence, so they have a fancy looking placeholder for that TS roadmap item.
Other than that and as I mentioned I have done some more research about the Top Secret road map item.
If no one has objections I would still continue to share my findings about the TS road map item in this channel - #isle-dicussion is just too noisy and not focused on any specific topic. This channel appears to be more appropriate.
Ongoing re-development operations on Isla Spero and associated organics.
#TheIsle #Dinosaurs #Recode
Credits are inline as far as I could keep track. But I want to mention @icy onyx & @tribal mirage upfront for pointing me in the right direction. Thanks folks!
Ping @twilit lotus
Based on the directions by Salty & Ghoulgore I searched the #401464048610312195 channel for any "official" statement from the devs about the Top Secret roadmap item. It turns out Punchpacket was the only dev who ever made any statement on that - as far as I can tell. If anyone else finds more, then please share!
So the below list is a summary of folks asking question and poking around the Top Secret roadmap item and #punch giving answers, (dis)confirmation etc.
A full copy of all original related comments is attached to my next comment - again, I might have missed stuff, so please chime in if you know anything additional.
Original comments related to the Top Secret roadmap item
Ruled out (in order of appearance in the #401464048610312195 channel):
- fall damage
- lore
- strains
- female textures
- tribals / mercs
- mechanic (like nesting or fishing)
- dinosaur
- Spero (MAP)
damn, this one was sooo close:
https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Isla_Spero
https://store.steampowered.com/newshub/app/376210/view/2227537053568411302 (read the section right after "Director - Don - Dondi")
- announced for mid/late 2020, would just fit perfectly
- also #Punch said they are hiring a mapper (18.09.2020 #401464048610312195) - not sure whether this actually happened, can anyone confirm?
- Spiro (MAP)
- new teaser video
Not yet ruled out (stuff folks asked which got neither confirmed nor dis-confirmed):
- salt licks (diet)
- diet
- map expansion
Confirmed:
- question marks in the Top Secret road map's tasks:
- each one stands for a real letter - hiding actual words, spaces are as shown, question marks are never spaces
- they stand for actual items being worked on
- the items are not in any specific order
- something that players can immediately interact with
- something new (some folks refer to this as in "nothing that ever existed in Legacy or Evrima - that might not be accurate)
Why Top Secret:
- Because we think it's neat for us to put things into updates for people to discover/figure out, etc.
- It's necessary for it to be secret
- Cause personally I think it's neat for it not to be spoiled
When will it be revealed:
- once update #2 releases
- once that update hits I'll "decrypt" them and replace the ?'s with letters
Observations / context / assumptions / open questions:
- a day after posting the last 2 statements in the "Why Top Secret" list (19.09.2020) #punch adds this:
- "Things like map expansions and the sorts are also good ways to use it, given that exploration often loses its charm when it's spoiled. I've always felt that type of stuff should be left purely to player exploration."
- My assumption:
This came pretty much out of context as far as I can tell. Maybe someone with better language skills could go back into that chat and shed more light on what #Punch refers to when saying "it" & "that type of stuff"?
Maybe he refers to the two comments he did the day before?! Does "it" directly refer to the "Top Secret" road map item here?
So he means that such secret road map items serve well for things like map expansions (and diets - see next point)?
Then I would assume that they will reveal that there is a map expansion but don't tell what it is to not spoil the fun of exploration for the players... hmmm, lot's of guessing here
- later the same day someone makes a joke about the TS item being "salt licks" (which refers to diet) - another user chimes in and says that this would "...be a slap to the face."
- #punch now defends this:
"Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update."
- Defending something usually has a strong meaning! It could still mean nothing in regards to what the TS road map item really is :P
- other road map items have multiple sections, this one has only 1 section with 17 items on it
^^ which incl. that there is no QA section - means no play-testing and such? Why is that not required? (credits for spotting this one go to: @dusty fiber)
EOM
A+ on your essay
ok so "it" and "that type of stuff" if i recall refers to making stuff a secret
"Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update." also last i recall this wasnt directly in response to salt licks but the secret as a whole
lemme recheck
^^ read the original chat again - it is in direct context to each other - Salt licks <-> Eh, ...
MagyCultist09/19/2020
mabye its salt licks
and a couple new diet plants for herbis that boost growth or stamina
Zann #LeadMinmiEnthusiast09/19/2020
Keeping salt licks as a secret would just be a slap to the face.
Punchpacket #TeamFoszor09/19/2020
Eh, I don't see it that way. It's merely a way to represent something extra is coming in that update.
Under the confirmed why isnt the whole
its not a dino, humans, its not a mechanic, and its not spero/spiro there?
check "Ruled out" items ^^
ah mb
Ruled out (in order of appearance in the #401464048610312195 channel):
- fall damage
- lore
- strains
- female textures
- tribals / mercs
- mechanic (like nesting or fishing)
- dinosaur
- Spero (MAP)
- Spiro (MAP)
- new teaser video
@hidden badge told y’all so
You told me some of these @"The Salty Man" ;) think it was at least 50+% of my list. And my list might still be incomplete.
would it be possible that the surprise is skin/body customization? it seems kinda far off and a map expanson sounds far more likely, but having body modifications like quills feathers or dewlaps would be new and it has been confirmed iirc. also it seems like it could be done with 17 slots on trello. idk though this is more of a shoot in the dark than anything
@twilit lotus This channel is for lore regarding the story within The Isle
oh maybe I don't understand then. why has this channel been full of theories about the mystery in update 2? if that's not allowed?
Ahh they're trying to figure out what the secret could be. Forgot about that.
I think that Apollo Engineering possibly took the plans for Phoenix Corp’s Magnatyrannus specimen(vice versa)
@warm bear I asked whether it would be OK to use this channel before I started flooding this channel about the Top Secret roadmap item. But I didn't really wait for anyone to respond. 🤭
I'd be happy to move my stuff around if there is any better place. What do you think - should we ask the devs for another channel for such stuff?
Does anyone know who to reach out to for something like that?
I think you're good here, I just misunderstood!
Reminder to read the channel description.
think maybe elders will be able to kill magnas like how magnas can kill hypos
@hidden badge Has anyone decoded the binary in the gif yet?
There are more AE gifs with different names (AE Root Access, AE key b) now but i don't think they will contain anything new.
Okay, so is the REDACTED in Visual's dev blog referring to the secret thing? Because if so, we know that whatever it is it can apparently interact with things
We are the redacted
Its for us to interact with
Ah, alright. I was wondering what he was referring to. But if it's us, then is he referring to a certain playable or? Cause it feels weird that he doesn't just call us players then.
I am sure only Utahs will be able to interact with these things and he wants to hide this knowledge.
I doubt that a Stego will be able to use the number pad XD
It was just a little confusing because the others referred to us as "you guys", so seeing REDACTED appear kinda threw me off. My bad 
I think he already gave us a hint for the code.
There are two dots under the number 1, three dots under 2 and fours dots under 9
I am assuming that this will be a four digit code so it should look like this ?129. Getting the first number shouldn't be difficult
So possibly humans/Utah's will be able to interact with it?
Possibly. But humans aren't there yet so only utahs
if 129 were the last 3 numbers of the combination, it would be extremely easy
I know
if 129 were the last 3 numbers of the combination, it would be extremely easy
to get the combination it would be easy, but there could a security system like resident evil's red queen that kills you for a wrong input or resets a timer for like an hour and surviving another hour could be a real problem
@burnt coral Read my and other's comments in this channel starting 23rd Oct 05:00
tl;dr
HEX & Binary code has been decoded by folks long before I picked this topic up. I did it again for the fun of it and to see whether there is more. but I found just a minor missing thing.
The hidden messages in the Top Secret gif / video does not have anything to do with the roadmap item itself. Read my comments! ;)
Maybe the secret thing is actually playable human. Filipe said a few months ago that we will get humans "sooner than we can imagine". Humans are hype worthy. and an early version of humans does not need so much "tasks" in the roadmap like dinos. Less animations for example. If you replace redacted with humans, Visuals text would actually make sense
thats what iv been saying but i think someone said its confirmed that its NOT humans
Really? cant remember that something like this got said. I mean why would there be so much humans stuff and even Filipe is saying that we will get them in the near future
punch said it i think in #401464048610312195
But with the new map, there isnt much left to get us hyped. Only thing that got not mentoined are humans, and Visual is working hard on Human structures
@signal yarrow @neon bloom @next raft
#isle-lore-theories message
I summed up all things folks have asked in #401464048610312195 and what punch confirmed or disconfirmed.
ok
Idk, ill just wait with my human theorie back in my head.
Replaced Redacted with Humans
This months been a bit crazy with the Humans/Mercs especially with the a lot of variants to the modular kit
the glorious Human/Merc HQ of a sorts.
alongside a few small models (props), and a few big ones (dressings), which will be semi animated, for the Humans/Mercs to interact with
hopefully be bringing new life into the Human/Merc life
real
The Top Secret Gif even revers to a Programm made by humans
The gif is a copy&paste from the end of the hope trailer. It is also used as a place holder for several of the new road map items meanwhile.
The TS item might still be related to humans but the gif itself is very unlikely a pointer or proof for that.
@tene can you share a link, channel, stream or other source where the human/Merc stuff of this month was mentioned originally?
Devblog was the text i changed
The last thing that was redacted in an update log was that tower. Maybe it's something to do with that?
Referring to the secret
Filipe basically confirmed it was human stuff like buildings
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401464048610312195/771969684841037875
I just hope the update releases on a Wednesday or Thursday because these are my days off work.
Alright, im confused
We have an aviary on V3, but theres something odd about it. Pteras can get in and out with relative ease as the mesh is big enough. Why would it be designed this way?
I think the devs wanted to put glass in the mesh. The aviary isn't finished, thats why it has this screen glitch
u can walk on it there is a hill u can use to get on it and you dont fall thru
They updated the description of the Top Secret part in update 2
They updated the actual checklist an hour ago as well.
Out of curiosity and idiocy where can you find this information
Check the pinned document and website
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
thats a pretty cool theory
has anyone mentioned Atrium C is the same name as the Atrium from Primal Carnage on the map Contingency?
also this
Yah. If I remember correctly, Apollo stole assets from Phoenix Corps' (Primal Carnage) Atrium B and C which was filled with Aquatic and Avian creatures respectfully, destroying the atriums in the process. I guess they built and modeled their own Atriums where they held the assets they stole.
anything that can be found out has been found out by this point @unborn creek
A L P H I E
anyone else notice how the allo from ark looks like it has a hypo or magna strain
All the Ark Carni's do
not rly
Well, the exception of a few, The Rex, spino, giga, allo, mosa, magma, RD, and wyverns look like Hypos
how is that related to lore
maybe theres a link like in primal carnage but the chance is to low
simply no, there isn't
Are you positive of that?
simply no, he isn't
simply yes, i am
simply no, you aren’t
i am
me
no me
and no u
wh
i dont think its true tho they might have just copied
maybe theres a link like in primal carnage but the chance is to low
@next raft
PCE Rex Roar in hope + Phoenix Corp Logo in hope
no i meant link with ark which im sure isnt there
Remember when we had actual theories?
yes - but even then they were mostly just reiterating what had already been theorised
Please keep this channel serious and related to The Isle. Gonna clean it up.
Did anyone already translated the binary code traveling on the lower part of the image?
Yes, it is already translated
Yes, it is already translated
@hexed flax I also translated it, theres nothing there 😦
Its the colossus. It didn't die of starvation. Thats all that is known about it XD
hold up-- Colossus?? as in, Hyperendocrin Colossus??
this fellow here?? was that confirmed to be the skeleton in the lake??
No, not at all
so it's. some other Colossus, then?? or is "colossus" just what people have decided to call it
Wasn't it referred to as the Island walker or something? The bones I mean.
I thought the bones underwater was The Matriarch or did that get deconfirmed or something
All we know is that people basically dubbed it the Colossus, it's a big freakin' thing, and that it died from something other than starvation. There are also scientific buildings down there, some people think that it's, like a contamination center that got submerged or somn.
the matriarch was something that like evolves over time and it got that big at some point in the lore thats why we have the skeleton and the hyper colossus is something else its like a hyper human or what ever all the strains have 1
More like a hyper cannibal
What if elder stage was actually made as a plot hole filler to describe what "eyeless things" are in relation to cannibals...
nah
we got this
01110010 01100101 01100100 01100001 01100011 01110100 01100101 01100100
you got me
redacted lol
//ROOT ACCESS GRANTED... initating apollo core data transfer... data transfer initiated -- apollo core -- top secret eyes only information ... access key confirmed... genetic data sequencing in progress...
... ... -- -- ... ... ... It's Morse code. (the third one is actually the second one in the sequence) SSMMSSS is what it comes back to. meaning nothing.
has anyone upscaled and translated the genetic code here?
So. Primal Carnage and The Isle are connected by multiple things (like Alfie, Phoenix and Magnatyrannus, and the potential renaming of this game's Utahraptor to Novaraptor). The dinosaurs in the isle are probably direct descendants of the primal carnage dinosaurs, and possibly also different phenotypes altogether.
In the direct descendant argument, the Novaraptor and "Utahraptor" would be not too reasonable to think off in the relatively wacky universe of Primal Carnage/The Isle. So, the Novaraptor has Utahraptor DNA in it's base genome, but with some other stuff added in like Velociraptor DNA. So, the excessive genetic material is bred out over successive generations pretty rapidly, untill the Utahraptor DNA becomes dominant (with some altered characteristics showing through, like pronatable hands and featherlessness)
Ceratosaurus works fairly well for different phenotypes. The Isle's cerato is very close in appearance, if not identical, in general appearance to the real animal. The Primal Carnage cerato, on the other hand, is a lot more Crocodilian in appearance (covered in scutes, with a spiny row going from the top of the neck to the tip of the tail), looking very distinct from TI's design
Just for comparison...
And then there's also some dinosaurs being literally THE SAME between the games. Magnatyrannus otherwise seems to be the PC rex, since they share the same sounds and have very similar appearances (though Magna seems a bit leaner, possibly more to do with inconsistencies between game style rather than any changes in phenotype)
the isle can use ideas and concepts from the original primal carnage ONLY and not vice versa and not from primal carnage: extinction
That'd be one helluva coincidence for pc:e's cera to look eerily like TI's cera.
Unless Dondi struck a deal with pc:e in secret.
Wouldn’t be surprised since they have connected lore
the isle can use ideas and concepts from the original primal carnage ONLY and not vice versa and not from primal carnage: extinction
Ok that excludes Cera, but doesn't exclude rex really
That'd be one helluva coincidence for pc:e's cera to look eerily like TI's cera.
Unless Dondi struck a deal with pc:e in secret.
or hear me out, they are both the same animal, god forbid ceratosaurus look like ceratosaurus
Well, I mean, I guess a lot of games have different styles, and the pictures they showed were very similar. It's called a "lore-theories" channel for a reason.
They still look superficially different. TI Cera looks like the real thing, while PCE's Cera is a ferocious land croc with horns
I mean, they have similar proportions, but that's just because they're the same animal. One is just a lot spikier than the other
And has differently shaped and sized scales
Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.
understandable
Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.
Tbh the Crocodilian appearance is cooler
Primals cera is better. I’m sorry it just is.
@icy onyx looks*
the primal carnage's cerato looks more fantastic, unlike the isle ceratosaurus, yeah maybe the colors are attractive
So. Primal Carnage and The Isle are connected by multiple things (like Alfie, Phoenix and Magnatyrannus, and the potential renaming of this game's Utahraptor to Novaraptor). The dinosaurs in the isle are probably direct descendants of the primal carnage dinosaurs, and possibly also different phenotypes altogether.
@icy onyx they better not fucking change the utahs name
@gilded panther Sorry, but Dondi owns PC...technically, and the Utahraptor doesn't look like an actual Utahraptor, it can be the Novaraptor.
I mean isn't Nov being made tho?
Hello Guys.
what if taco was the real lore?
Dear god.. 
But Dondi hinted at TI coming after PC
Makes sense, considering that there probably seems to have been rapid evolution with Phoenix's clones (or alternatively new batches of clones made). Considering TI can only take stuff from the original primal carnage, this could mean there is a canonical "fork" between PCE and TI
Where did that come from
man-made ..?
I mean, the pictures.....
Where did those Pictures come from, who posted them?
Hmmm, idk
I join to this discord just to know the theory of the isle
Old Tapwing art.
i mean u could just ask someone to tell u the lore
where i saw those pictures of the old tapwing art MotherOrganoid #TeamFoszor was on Anthomnia's (YouTuber) latest video.
is a tapwing concept
Why does that Neuro Rex have a spike up its ass?
it's an extension of a bone in the hip (the ischium)
someone to tell you the lore
I already know all of the lore lol
What is the lore
Yes, tell us the lore, oh lore master. 
i know the lore:
Oh, so you like the Isle? Tell the lore.
human make dino
dino mad and kill human
dino take over island
dino clone hooman
Neuro strain?
Old tapwing art .-.
daltification??
That is old tapwing art, but I do really love the top one.
jmmm
The lore is that the dinosaurs in the isle are scientifically made modified, the isle also has mutants and human tribals
0 . 0
isle is isle
the lore is game devs were like dinos cool lets make monster dinos yea..

Can the hipsy climb trees?!?
no
also wrong channel
Which skeleton?
The Isle HIDDEN PAST -Underwater Ruins & Monster Skeleton, Type-M Tyrannus Sighting- Utah Survival
They hid the skeleton and ruins underwater! Also spotted magna rex stomping around when I started my utah survival!
My PC specs:
Acer Aspire GX-281
AMD Ryzen 5 1400 Quad-Core CPU 3.20GHz, 8,00 GB RAM
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Monitors: BenQ RL2455...
this one
@gleaming talon this one
the monarch or matriarch or something
It's neither, that skeleton is of something else we call the 'island walker'.
why did that creature die
it died of death
maybe of hunger like this shit would devour the whole isand
No something else killed it. Cant remember if we know what did it or not
I dont think we do, lol. But yes definitely not hunger
thats not lore
What's not?
they deleted they were asking when the update was coming
Oh nvm then.
lol what
the skeleton is just placeholders
wait did dondi say in that IGP video that that's just the little one and that there is a bigger one
And we don't know what killed it but i think it's something similar to it maybe the big one?
Then, where's the big one right now on the isle
idk
maybe being like godzilla
Any ideas on what that top secret thing on roadmap is?
buildings

Did they say what building? I have a few guesses as to what they might be.
I think(?) someone of importance said it was buildings a little bit ago but don't quote me on that
the 1st 1 could be ????? encoded messages but idk
the northern mountain range kinda looks like spines if you look at it from south
Anyone know what the "POG" reactions mean on the top secret thing in the roadmap updates?
It's just a reaction meme, nothing related to lore
Was pretty much confirmed to be buildings by Filipe #401464048610312195 message
Oh I see
pog isle lore 🙂
poggers 😤
theory: update 2 was a lie.
This is lore theories, not discord theories.
its an isle theory wdym? update 2 is about the isle not discord soo.
A bad theory, apparently.
we know very very little about the lore but if you think about it for a bit it's really terrifying
yeah agreed, especially looking back at lots of the older content such as the titan or whatever, was some sort of giant hypo dude that ate pues for lunch
Yep, and all of these weird mutations
It's an imperfect art. A fractured image to try to recreate. Some pieces need a little more imagination to fulfill.
Sometimes you get it right. Other times you improve upon it.
Damn, we getting fancy in the lore channel.
There's lore?
So much lore
Also I can't find the suggestion chat
Binders full of lore.
What lore 

since AE means apollo engineering, and apollo means something to do with space, does that mean [UNKNOWN] is a space life-form?
uh oh
not really wasnt apollo like some "god" or something
ye the isle's lore is heavily linked with greek mythology
space ghosts
In greek mythology, Apollo was known for archery, and also healing, so maybe AE has something to do with medicine?
Probably. Medicine, Genetics and Technology are probably the main things they study and work on.
so then why would they have dinosaurs of all things?
That relates to genetics. They're genetically engineered animals.
Apollo was the god of oracles, healing, archery, music and arts, sunlight, knowledge, herds and flocks, and protection of the young
#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 moment
how do you know floating meat isn't part of the lore
probably a hidden strain that is activated after death
what
what was appolo's initial intention in creating the dinosaurs? I mean they bought a huge island and then used technology to resuscitate the dinosaurs, but for what reason? they certainly weren't going to do a jurrasic park but if it was just for studying with what money would they be doing these studies? I have a theory that the American government was giving this money but the island was somewhere in Africa so when they evacuated the island they were unable to return to resume the experiments
There is some stuff which related to Primal Carnage. Such as Phoenix corp.
yes i think that phoenix corp is like the biosy of this story because they get the tecnology do create the dinossaurs from appolo
If looking at the original Primal Carnage lore, Phoenix is solely responsible for creating the dinosaurs in that game. Apollo may have actually stolen Phoenix's technology at some point and created their own, more refined clones (correct me if I'm wrong).
Some dinosaurs in Primal Carnage and The Isle are practically identical, such as PC Tyrannosaurus and TI's Magnatyrannus. They are both bigger than the standard tyrannosaurus in the fossil record, have a back covered in big overlapping osteoderms, and have loud, hissy roar (as well as brick red and black base colouration, with a white underbelly)
Apollo's Tyrannosaurus is closer to the real animal, lacking the Crocodilian osteoderms and having pebbly scales instead.
I'm not sure about this theory, because the TOP SECRET videos of the isle show a screen with the name of the appolo while a small symbol of the phoenix is flashing on the screen as if the phoenix wanted to hack the appolo computers in addition to the number of species cloned by appolo is significantly bigger than the ones cloned by phoenix i think phoenix just wanted to sell the primal carnage dinosaurs to be weapons of war and that's why they are so inaccurate
it is confirmed apollo stole assets
sorry if i wrote something wrong i'm using the translator
Oh really? I didn't know how it was confirmed? with a video or did the devs speak?
no its was like an in game screen or something idk it was decoded from binary or hex i think
magna rex, hypo rex, quetz, novaraptor from pc
ow i remeber that
wait the place where primal carnage takes place was bombed isn't it? or am i mistaken?
I gonna try to do a timiline of The events of The games can someone please send The link of this picture?
I mean does anyone know where this print came from? can someone give me the link?
Mhm Phoenix does intend use for the dinosaurs as weapons of war. Ok so Phoenix stole from Apollo, and not the other way round.
Any ideas where the titans came from?(colosuss, echidna, reaper)
Maybe they are grown in a lab, like human embryos mixed with strain Dino DNA? Due to the colossus having a rex like head, echidna with her spino claws and reaper with his raptor esc feet
Yeay thats make sense
I will try to make the timeline today but since we have no dates about the events of the game I will just organize the events one after the other
1 event - we have no facts about how history begins but we can theorize that apollo was a small medical and genetic technology company with its greatest competition being the phoenix corp but after a few years of research apollo was able to discover some enzyme capable of cloning dead cells and this was a major breakthrough in medicine which made apollo more powerful over time until they started doing tests to try to clone fossilized dinosaur cells until eventually they managed to clone a first specimen
2 event - apollo started to create more specimens over time, still in laboratories and research centers in america, but the animals died still young because they were not raised in a more "natural" place until they decided to buy an archipelago off the coast of africa to be able to continue research on these islands the dinosaurs began to progress and reach adulthood
adendun - i had said that apollo had financial support from the american government but i think they had enough money with research on the enzyme that they must have patented and used to sell drugs for the treatment of genetic diseases like cancer
3 event - apollo had already created more than 20 different species of dinosaurs on the islands until the phoenix somehow found out about the islands and sent spies to steal the dinosaurs' DNA so that the phoenix could create its own monstrous versions of the dinosaurs like magna rex and the novaraptor and they housed these creations on another island off the American coast this time the goal of phoenix in their creations was to sell to millionaires who want powerful weapons of destruction for themselves
4 events - because of an error in the phoenix's containment system the dinosaurs managed to escape and cause chaos in the facility and after some time phoenix sent an extermination team to prevent the incident from becoming visible to the public (primal carnage events) but apollo had already learned what had happened and contacted the american government which bombed the island of phoenix
5 event - after the site was bombed, Apollo started an operation to recover what was left of the site (operation inferno) and they got the magna rex the novaraptor and genetic plans for the hypos and the quetza (and perhaps all flying reptiles) which they used to create the same
look and madness an utah eat a fish on the bank left to put a deino.
6 event - as kind of "revenge" a few years later the phoenix hacked the computers of the islands of apollo and then all the animals escaped from their enclosures they tried to maintain control but failed and were forced to evacuate the islands so the now free dinosaurs started to survive on the islands like current animals some even started to breed over time (events from the isle)
7 event - in the meantime 3 explorers had discovered the abandoned archipelago and found the dinosaurs but both 3 were killed by the animals (events from the isle's old teasers)
finaly someone did it
I think this might be part of the lore? It's official, it's 1 frame on the loading screen, it's showing a hypo chasing a jeep, and I think it's next to the ocean? So this is at port maybe? I can see some kind of ship too. Maybe the hypos were transported to port, but then broke out? I mean, that could possibly explain that big enclosure at port
um guys, all the new trello roadmap gifs have different names and titles. i feel like they all include different binary codes, too bad their quality is too low to be decoded
actually you can make out the binary code but it's kind of an eye sore https://trello-attachments.s3.amazonaws.com/5f27b4f256a0617e8cf0c583/5f9cd6dc61cc2243343d53ff/x/500bb8510165bea8c1953f490b87faa3/AE_Access_Key_B.gif i have like no free time to decode these myself so if anyone's bored, have at em
"Stop looking for things that aren't there"
No need to decode them. Just compare lets say Access Key A to Access key B (and skip 5 seconds or something). If the binary looks exactly the same at this timestamp, decoding would be a waste of time
this is the story in my head I hope it is not wrong in some ways
What is that
Fair point but the fact that they bothered to give them different names makes me think the gifs are indeed different
a Hypoendocrine Giga chasing a jeep
Why is it so scary
I will post a PDF of the complete timeline that I created as I said I don't have a date so I separated the story into events if they think I was wrong about something in theory please tell me your doubts
due to the sheer size and unhinged jaws probably ?
not rly unhinged thats just the way the joints work
Well, Hypo Giga as a split jaw with multiple rows of teeth while Hypo spino has a snake like unhinged jaw. Speaking of which, hope we'll get some interesting lore about them once the mutated dinos come back. Like scientists reports on the plants that makes them etc.
snakes dont unhinge there jaws the joints just do that and the chin isnt connected and its stretchy
My theory is: Utah rapotors are big brains so they are running the whole island to see who they should eat or something
What?
Digged into the unicode, its literally just a series of random numbers, some of those unicodes don't actually even exist in any of the computing languages.

I did get some letters in certain languages, but none of them forms words and they're so inconsistent. so yah, just there for cosmetic.
Shame
maybe not tho it could just be more encrypted or just no unicode
updating my timiline I was on Filipe's live just now and asked in the chat if the island is off the coast of Africa and he said that is not now i think that the island is close to the American continent
It's either in the Pacific or Atlantic, perhaps near Florida, Mexico or Costa Rica among other places.
The thing that doesn't match with that theory is the aurora that can be seen in the sky during the night. Unless there has been a geomagnetic storm in the world or in that area. A geomagnetic storm could also be the reason the island(s) were/are seemingly abandoned by people.
yeay thas true
I did a little research and the hottest place where it is possible to see an aurora is in Canada
my theory is after like...a WW3 event were world wide nukes spred. the only thing left other than the surviving humans from bunkers was like...lizards. and the radiation rapidly changed the lizards kinda godzilla style into dinos. and thats why theres both people and dinos. and the people are trying to contain them.
eehhh i don't think this theory makes much sense because of all the lore of the apollo and phoenix companies that are in a kind of competition to innovate and create genetically modified dinosaurs
ahhhh.
i think the island is in the ocean between canada and the united states the only problem is that the island's climate does not match the aurora
I always felt like it was a South American/Caribbean
wasnt something like an island bombed by phoenix
Spiro is definitely an exotic island so probably somewhere in the Pacific Ocean. V3 has fauna that is common in regions that have all 4 seasons
so that means that the islands of apollo are in different parts of the world and it's not a single archipelago like I said in my timiline
Wasn’t phoenix’s island bombed?
Apollo Engineering has the island bombed, the island belongs to Phoenix Corp.
Ah i see
in my timiline I suspected that the first island with dinosaurs was from apollo enginering and that phoenix had discovered how to create dinosaurs in the same way as apollo but after the events of primal carnage the island of phoenix was bombed and when apollo heard about them they sent people to what was left of the island of phoenix to steal some assets (hypos, magna rex, novaraptor, quetz etc) but apollo already knew how to create dinosaurs because they started it
Ah i see
Where did you get the bombardment part from?
just put the pieces together after the island of the phoenix was destroyed by the dinosaurs they sent a team of people to exterminate the dinosaurs (playable humans from primal carnage) but as they didn’t get it they would have no choice but to contact the government so that island was bombed
So the initial merc based extermination operation was a fail
Considering how well equipped the corporations are Id say they didn't need the government's help to bombard the island if that's what truly happened. I feel like they would like to keep the government out of their business for as long as possible. A bit like Jurassic Park or Monarch from monster verse. And on top of that, if there are still facilities on the island that could be made functional once more or if there is equipment left behind I can't see them pulling the big red button so eagerly. Then there are the animals on top of that. Each one probably costs quite a lot. Ofc, I'm not that invested in the lore and past events, so hard to imagine the relations the corporations have to the rest of the world
- Bombarding an island is not exactly cheap either
Mhm
I heard about human consciousness being transferred into dinosaurs. Does that mean they have human memories/emotions?
this theory became very popular for a while and maybe it's true but I don't think people's consciousness is completely transferred to the dinosaurs just a part of them as if we transform feelings into istincts
Ah I am fairly new to getting into the lore is there anything i could use to catch up?
I created a PDF timeline if you want you can read it and it's very short and divided into events and not dates......here:
Hmm i see....
thats theorys n stuff there is a massive 50+ page doc pinned to this channel with all the official confirmed stuffs
as minipin said, in pinned messages theres a doc and a website which are best places to catch up
That is a lot to take in but I found “Only one profile will be completed interesting” do we know what happens to incomplete profiles? Are they trashed or kept until they are completed
no idea, if we go by the most reasonable headcanon atm, the profiles go through 1000 life cycles until they can be released back into their original bodies, assuming they do not get twisted and corrupted
please send me the link
its pinned to this channel
but where? in old conversations?
Its in pinned messages
aaaahh sorry i had misunderstood my english is not the best
I just saw it here and it is quite complex but can someone tell me what the atrium-C ?????
it's a big glass dome where pterosaurs lived during the primal carnage game
Atrium C is actually a map in PC (Contingency)
This is the atrium, as seen in PCE (gives a good understanding of what it is, though Primal Carnage Extinction isn't canon to TI)
well yeah the map is contingency but the whole map isn't the atrium right?
The whole map IS the atrium. And lemme explain more. It's a glass and concrete dome, intended to house pterosaurs, and it has a sort of "kill switch" (which activates a timer, and high voltage electric shocks are emitted upon this timer finishing, killing anything within the dome, but not in the control room and viewport).
This is the viewport
ah my bad, i was confused with the atrium that existed on one of the isle maps
This is Phoenix's island, which is separate from the other maps which belong to Apollo. The two companies are rivals.
well not exactly, if the isle's atrium C is the same as pc's atrium C, then that means the hypers and hyper alfie lived and escaped from the pc island's atrium C, meaning that AE was either a splinter cell of PI which broke off sometime before operation inferno or they both shared the same assets
According to PC's lore, Alfie hadn't escaped yet during the events of the original game. As far as I am aware, he was still a regular Quetzalcoatlus.
I highly doubt that they shared the same assets has much more evidence that they were rivals
I think that after the PC events the island of phoenix was bombed as many had said and apollo started using the island of phoenix as one of its islands
Is there any actual evidence of the bombardment you keep bringing up? As far as I can see it's just speculation and I have yet to see any confirmed info about it
operation inferno is mentioned in the website, it was revealed during the console stream.
ok maybe i'm taking the bomber a little bit seriously but it doesn't matter because this answered my question about atrium C :
Aight that resolves that
sorry if I still don't know much about the lore of the game but it is practically confirmed that operation inferno was something destructive maybe it is not a bombardment but it has great chances even because what else could have destroyed the original atrium B and C even because of what I understood these were huge constructions
I think that as one of the definitions for inferno is "a very large uncontrolled fire" the name Inferno could also refer to something very large and out of control
like.....the matriarch?
I was actually thinking hypos. Im not even sure if matriarch is confirmed
Since hypos only live as long as there is something to eat, they would be a quite efficient way to wipe out everything living on an island and then just wait for them/it to starve
I still think that Operation lnferno was a bombardment or a sabotage of Apollo on the island of Phoenix, so its buildings were destroyed and then redone on one of the Apollo Islands where the hypos would later be contained there.
What makes you think that? I'm genuinely curious?
for the simple fact that besides a possible matriarch nothing would be so strong to destroy a huge glass dome not even hypos would be able to cause so much damage
Fair enough
thanks owo but I haven't yet dismissed your theory that everything was caused by hypos
you say that yet an ordinary quetz was able to break out of the top
well atrium C is a giant place made to contain dinosaurs and strong animals so I don’t think a quetz could do this damage
Big Alphie literally broke out the dome during Primal Carnage and is literally flying around Marsh during the game
Oh. Damn I forgot that.
@slow delta i just compared AE access key B to AE Root access key A and both of them have the same binary code.
@hexed flax damn i thought we were closing in on something. thanks for trying man
I guess we have to wait for the buildings to get more lore
yeah sadly
Isn’t there a radio tower added into evrima
i think, but i don't know.
Yes there is
where is it?
Radio tower is in
Oh rip
Taken from screenshots in #spiro-screenshots
I liked the old tower more ngl
what location is it at i kinda wanna go see it
thank
Is isle and primal in the same Universe
ive read trough the lore and it seems so
The Isle and the original Primal carnage are in the same universe
Extinction is excluded, so there's essentially this "canonical fork"
alternate universe dinosaur sim 
PCE isn't a dinosaur sim, unless you're on Free Roam. The way you're actually meant to play the game is on Team Deathmatch, or "Get To The Chopper" (GTTC), which involves escaping the island via capturing different objective points. And since I like being brutal on multiplayer games, that's why I play the two competitive gamemodes which I just mentioned.
Pce is a mistake 
idk i bought it and im having fun with it
Well it sort of is, yes. Well the game itself has been a mess from the very beginning. Incompetent devs, and only now have they actually turned to smoothening up the game. They even haven't considered advertising.
Wrong chat
Yes. Well someone made it to offtopic.
Throwing me under the bus, wow 
Sorry.
theoretically, do you think the bad game design is reflected in the story
In that there is no story
🤦
not referenced in the game very well AHEM
Let's not.
(Chat cleaned up)
(I dont even want to know what happend here)
people were spaming hi
Ah ok
Guys i have question where you can hear the cannibal sound on the isle ?
Gimme a sec.
Very very old and very very outdated most likely, but, if this is what you're looking for here you go.
I like how it makes these creepy ass croaks but the last two calls sound like some angry chihuahua
eco location 😉 they gonna be deadly! And will probablly have some kind of modified vision
i wouldnt know what an angry chihuahua sounds like mines rly friendly
Any ideas on where the titans come from?
If they do get added to the game I hope they look and sound like this it's a very cool ascetic and design especially if they add some kind of military to it as well
I always visioned the tribals as like the big villages from the king kong movie with jack black with huge scary desolate looking structures with big walls on the outside or maybe like huge caves with buildings and things hanging on scaffolds on the sides of the caves or edges of cliffs
More human buildings were added!
Pics?
Seems pretty.. bland?
-239, -691 human structure behind a fence
There are no docks or other human structures at the beach
seems like generic assets for now but thanks for posting it
i brightened up the new screenshot, but there's nothing from what i can see
I have been there. No hidden words or anything else. Radio Tower has the same fence and building now
ah ok, i assume the tower doesn't play any morse yet?
is this a broken wall?
yes, there is also that exact broken wall by the radio tower
okay
I haven't been up there so i don't know if it has a morse code. But i think the main menu morse code is different (before it was playing the "This is just the beginning" and i kind of remembered how it looked like). But now it starts differently i think. I might record it tomorrow
at first i also thought it was a symbol but yeah it's just exposed rebar from the broken wall
-506, -57 another generic human structure and a second radio tower
sounds like a plan, ill see if it decodes to something different then
can you walk into the door
hello guys can someone know the position of humans tructure?
what's the question mark?
there is apparentaly a human structure there but i couldn't find it so i put a question mark
Someone posted a picture of a human structure and said that it was a radio tower. So i asked him what the coordinates are and he told me -506, -57. I double checked it.
There should be a structure because in his screenshot you could see the spire from an angle that shouldn't be possible from Mt. Jugger. And there is no way he wrote the coordinates wrong because the Radio tower on Mt. Jugger has coordinates that start with -49
i looked at that screenshot and its definitely the radio tower at "mt jagger"
no
mt jagger 
idk why i did this but here
There is probably no roads between them? At least yet
@slow delta the morse code still starts with "This is just the beginning" do you want to translate the rest of it anyway?
nah pretty sure its the same thing
ik this will sound pretty dumb and Ik the devs didn't actually plan this, but what if humans are slowly adding larger dinosaurs to the island to see how they would survive. Like, they start off with small dinosaurs and slowly add more to the ecosystem to see what will happen???
There's constant adjusting to the game. The current consensus is that (a) all the dinosaurs made at more or less the same time and (2) the newly founded ecosystem hasn't collapsed for some reason
well the lore is super meta at times so it could be what spycrab said too
I've been wondering something about the lore, why did Apollo Engineering recreate dinosaurs in the first place ? We know that Phoenix Corp was probably some sort of military experiment, but AE went far beyond that. They heavily genetically modified dinos to make them fill niches they weren't supposed to and recreate a working ecosystem. But what's the purpose of it ?
Recreating dinosaurs is one thing, but why take dinos that weren't supposed to live together and engineer them to live as if they were part of the same ecosystem ?
Another question, is the fact that there are human minds inside the dinos confirmed ?
Phoenix used their dinosaurs as a military experiment. For example, their rex (i.e Magnatyrannus) has overlapping armour plating on it's back, and is around twice the size of a regular Tyrannosaurus. But Apollo probably may have been testing ecosystem engineering. So they used dinosaurs for such a purpose, though there may have been other things which could have been used.
I have a theory about the Hyperendocrin colossus, Tissoplastic reaper and Neurotenic mastermind. What if they were already on the island when AE arrived ? That would be the reason why they chose to settle here for their experiment. These creatures' DNA has some unique properties, and by extacteing it, allows for incredible mutations. AE would want to study those beings. Mercs, then wouldn't be here only to fight the dinos... but they'd have something to do about the creatures, too.
Oh, and do we know what the Replicator is ? From what I've read in this channel, it is depicted like a super-computer able to recreate dinos... But what if it's organic and a living being ?
Colossus, Reaper and Echidna were created by AE. There are currently 12 reapers alive. Echidnas location is unknown and the colossus is dead.
I thought that the replicator is an AI but it could also be that a human consciousness is inside a computer
It’s a little base. It’s my favorite structure so far
thats not it the one that looks like the shed from jp is the one by tripod
oh- sorry lol
Hello there. I love the isle, but I haven’t gotten into the lore yet. If someone could explain what it’s all about, (at least what we know for now) or what AE/Apollo Engineering is, I would be thankfull.
@icy onyx if you go to pinned in this channel and look at the google doc, it has everything we know in it
Thx! You mean the one sent by HellShade#8705 right?
just to point out, the google doc isn't as well written as taterfi's website because it wasn meant to be a place for us to store and decrypt the hidden information rather than catalogue it all
that link dont work
It does
it said something like website not found then it loaded
it works just click on it

The stream isn't available anymore. What did he say?
What did Dondi say?
rip all the lore info that was dumped i guess 🤷
What did donidi say about the lore then
has anyone come up with the theory that the isle is when humans created dinosaurs who took over the world cuz i think it is a popular theory
Its almost the same symbol
hmmm yeah there's definite similarities there
here is a better quality photo. I love it!!
I wonder if they have planned all of this or just looked at some old transmissions and thought "Oh yeah we could reuse this". Because the gif is from 2018
How large is that painting btw?
definitely the second one, judging from all the weird conflicting lore that exists atm
Okay so, it's an orb with something that looks to me like human figures inside it. below it there are lines that could be seen as a boat with rays coming from it/them. Then there are 3 adult handprints 1 smaller handprint and 1 handprint that barely looks like a handprint. Also, the location is weird. Tribal paintings on a modern building?
Are the tribals aware of the replicator and is it still confirmed to be canon?
Sorry for being late
The tribals are aware of the replicator. They sacrifice dinos and other humans to please it
But dondi said something about the image that I posted about the replicator
We know this from: ?
🙂
The replicator was confirmed in the console interaction
Aight thx
I'm convinced that they were summoning a sun god to fight the dinos...but fuked up and died and thats the last image someone drew with their own blood as a warning xD
(It looks more like weird shiny clay tbh)
If it's blood, it's not the drawer's. It is way too elaborate to be a dying man's last move. It looks a little like prehistoric cave paintings, so maybe it's tribals' work ? Could the "Sun" be the replicator ?
Also, the dying man theory doesn't explain the drastic difference in the size of the 5 handprints. The orb reminded me of the replicator as well. ^^ What to me seem like human figures inside of the orb also kinda strengthen that
Do we know where exactly the drawing is btw?
I doubt it's blood, more likely to be a dye made out of earth and various plant material, unless tribals are really so savage that they'd use blood to paint. Actually it looks a bit like mud, tbh
i doubt it was done as someone's dying action, but it could well have been human or dinosaur blood. Maybe it being blood has some significance that goes further than just "scary blood drawing"
Just to point out, it looks rather recent. Both blood and mud-based dyes do get washed away by rain and the continuous humidity of rainforests.
Drifting slightly off topic, but you can get many sorts of red dyes from tree bark, roots, flowers and even bugs (cochineal, or carmine, is one example of an insect derrived dye)
fair point. The more i look at it the less it looks like blood
Considering Spiro has a fair bit of plant diversity (with both native and introduced flora), it shouldn't be hard to find stuff you can make rudimentary paint out of.
i don't know if it's just me but it almost looks as if the symbol was etched into the wall as well as painted?
Id say its just painted
i feel as though there's some sort of depth here
With enough precision, you could use a sharped stone to carve in the patterns and then apply the dye (which could be a sort of paste rather than a full on liquid so that it remains put in the crevices).
that would make sense. After trying to wrap my brain around it it does look like it's bulging out rather than in, so maybe it is just a thick paste dye applied on the wall. Especially seeing as there's no signs of dripping anywhere
The thing below the circle looks almost like a smile or vertebrae of some kimd
This is what im seeing there
So the picture could probably survive for a long time, especially if given a fresh coat of paste (and this is where cultural/spiritual significance takes hold)
Why not just avoid the hassle of having to return to the same point through a forest filled with dinosaurs and paint it in a cave or inside of a building instead tho?
perhaps the structure is meaningful to them in some way
The tribals could maybe see A.E as gods who have arrived, but their visit is only short lived, and disruptive to their previously peaceful lives as islanders (thanks to the introduction of prehistoric fauna like dinosaurs and so forth). They might believe these "gods" have punished them for some reason, with worshipping the replicator starting as a desperate means of getting rid of this curse.
Okay, so I currently think it's a boat carrying an orb filled with human figures with raised hands. The orb might be the replicator. Dondi implied a while ago that the tribals worshipped and built temples for the replicator.
The picture kinda reminds me of the Egyptian sun god Ra. Just remove the eagle person and it looks very similar
yeah it kinda looks like a boat carrying people, perhaps it could be mercs arriving at the island? sometimes I wonder if dondi looks at this channel and laughs at how wrong we are
Wouldnt be surprised if there was no actual lore at all and Dondi just kept giving us fake clues to fuel our vibrate imagination.
how do you know he didnt do just that
We dont, and considering how little actual lore has been published in the last 2 years wouldnt be surprised if that was actually the case.
It seems for me these are people raising their hands to praise that round thingy, which may be light or a hole
There are also human figures upside down, these can be shadows, but they don't have their hands raised
I thought about holes because of old sacrificial building concepts, I didn't manage to find these though
Welp, these also may be people watching others being sacrificed to replicator, but still I can't be sure...
I am sure it's supposed to be an "all seeing eye" symbol. It definitely looks like one. And i bet once this building gets released the devs will put a camera inside the circle that represents the eye. Just like in the gif
also how high on the wall is the drawing? is it somewhere an average human could reach?
in before suggestion that it was drawn by a dino human hybrid
it's basically on one of the Human structures currently in-game @slow delta
however during the stream, it was just a photo. He wasn't actually playing when Dondi was showing it
I know Broccoli, I was in the stream though during it
@icy onyx this structure is not in the game right now
i mean if there's a similar wall design somewhere in game we can gauge how tall the symbol is since we can actually see the top of the wall
I think it can be some sort of mark. Like "let's rid this place of mercs" or "meet here". Like, tribals use these symboles to communicate.
I think there are different tribes, each having their own symbol... this could be the tribe of the sun, or something XD
Or the tribe of the big circle with hands.
someone remind me to add the new picture of the stream to the docs later today
google doc updated with the new image
also since i havent updated to evrima (and thus have access to older in-game files) can someone else check the evrima in game folders for new videos or gifs?
Greetings, this message was sent by the Apollo Engineering team. We need help to understand what happened on that island; all help is welcome and I expect great results from you. Apollo Shutting down.
#Theisle #PrimalCarnege #dinosaurs #Mystery #enigma #horror #games #tapes https://t.co/03BhWe58vT
Is this official or fan made?
Fanmade
eh i was hyped for a second there
same, should probably clarify immediately whether it's official or not lol
Gotta love those ppl trying to force themselves into the lore
Just realised that he took that clip with static from Anthomnias old video. Love that
yeah honestly it gets annoying. the devs didn't reply to the fan-made transmitter account so why even bother with more. just let them release lore stuff whenever they feel like it
This and the above post: perhaps it likely could have been the remains of a raid on a mercenary camp. The tribals sacrificed them to the replicator, and then used the merc's blood mixed with maybe earth of other plant matter (like kato said) to mark the wall as a sort of victory sigil to demoralize any returning mercs. 5 hands. 5 tribals. There is old concept art of varying kinds of tribals. What if the smallest one is an adult female or adult male and the rest are just much larger? Do we have any frames of reference?
that's the only pic we have, but that's a really interesting way of seeing it, seems plausible
I'm more interested in what the image depicts rn, its creator might be solved easier after we know what it is supposed to be portraying. Skulls on spikes seem a much more likely victory sign. I believe the image has other meaning. Tho your theory is indeed interesting.
my guess is that it's a sign of worship towards something (someone?) that seems to be radiating stuff towards the tribals. I'm not very well versed on the lore but some people mentioned the replicator, so I'll go with that for now
About one subject to something completely else, is this still part of the lore or was it cut?
I thought it could be a worship symbol too, but why put one on one of AE's buildings ? This kind of painting belongs to religious places or villages.
The tribals are worshipping the replicator for some goddamn reason. Maybe it's to rid themselves of this curse, that is the advent of Apollo and dinosaurs having interrupted their lives as peaceful islanders.
I am rather sure that tribals are worshipping the replicator to gain its favor. Since dondi has stated that it "definitely choses favorites" This kinda hints that something knows that is should not take favorites
Also, this is something Dondi said on a stream about 2 years ago: "When it comes to having nothing but time in your hands and the whole bunch of death and worshipping something that brings you back repeatedly. I mean, wouldn't you build giant sacrificial temples to please em? I mean, I would."
The replicator is a human consciousness. It knows that it shouldn't choose favourites but does it anyway because humans like the feeling of power that comes with being worshipped. An AI would just stick to it's code.
A profile is a human consciousness
We know plenty of ways that AI could go around its code without necessarily violating it. All it takes is one missing parameter and all of a sudden you got an intelligent AI that you have no control over. Things only get more complicated when you take into account the fact that there isn't exactly a sharp line between human consciousness and a sufficiently advanced AI.
Soma intensifies
I saw a poster on YouTube post this theory but I don't remember their name. Basically the poster's theory was that dinosaurs in the Isle were actually human who became dinosaurs through some experiment. As time passes, they slowly lose their humanity and their "self". I thought it was a pretty horrifying and interesting theory
that sounds alot like something I said way back when in this channel when we were talking about what if it's human consciousness transferred to dino bodies like in avatar.
That's exactly it! I saw a comment like that on YouTube. Maybe it was you! Either way, it's a fascinating theory that has a lot of potential.
lol nah I don't comment on YouTube videos but it's not a super unique idea so likely others thought about it too
Off topic but god I really love that game
ok what if, scientist brang back dinosaurs and something went wrong destorying humanity
https://twitter.com/Phoenix_Corps/status/1343652510016430088?s=19
does anyone understand german?
Deutsch: Am Ende dieser Aufnahme erschien ein Code, ich weiß nicht, was am Ende passiert ist, aber anscheinend gab es danach einen Kampf zwischen Wissenschaftlern. Anscheinend haben wir schon 3 Leute und beide ohne Namen...
#theisle #dinosaurs #tapes #enigma #mystery #horror #key https://t.co/yEsmOGTJTM
Unofficial
If humanity got destroyed, there wouldn't be any mercs in the game @tough kite
At the end of the recording a code appeared. I don't know what happened at the end, but apparently there was a fight between the scientists. It looks like we already have 3 people and both without a name...
It's unofficial so it doesn't mean anything. The last part made no sense aswell. "3 people and BOTH without a name"
it's unofficial... no point in posting it here since it's only going to cause confusion and misinformation
Thanks brow
What I (might) know is uh-
So uh, humans got a cool idea, make dinosaurs in a very top secret corporation. The humans, or the Apollo Engineering people, bought this archipelago (group of islands). Then Phoenix corp. They had the kinda same idea, but more interesting. Now the corporations began making these hella weird mutants, and also began stealing eachother's mutant things. Now, back to The Isle itself, Apollo Engineering might have made the Replicator, that's either an intelligent AI or human consciousness, began like, making more dinosaurs or whatever it even does. One very strong thing caused problems in the containment system, freeing the dinosaurs, causing the humans to evacuate the islands. And now, we're here.
I basically put together people's ideas, so shoutout to you if you see something resembling your theory. Don't get mad, I love y'all.
Also tell me if something got wrong, but I won't update this bc yes
Whoever originally owned Isla Spero seems to have made some modifications to the local ecosystem. The fish species coming to the game that we so far know of are in some cases from opposite sides of the world.
Longear Sunfish - North America
Channel Catfish - North America
Muskellunge - North America
Forktailed Rainbowfish - Papua New Guinea
Hoplosternum:
Hoplosternum littorale - South America
Hoplosternum magdalenae - South America
Hoplosternum punctatum - Central South America
Coelacanth:
West Indian Ocean coelacanth - Mozambique, Comoro Islands, Madagascar (Critically Endangered)
Indonesian coelacanth - Papua
No one really needed this info but at least we know now that there seem to be no clues there
There's also some plant species which appear to be introduced, such as Colocasia, or taro, which originates in Southeast Asia and India, as well as banana plants (also naturally originating in Asia though if the ones on Spiro are manmade cultivars, with seedless fruit intended for human consumption, or a wild species is uncertain)
This is what a Colocasia looks like btw
Would it be likely that the island is somewhere either in the Indian ocean or in the pacific? I was earlier thinking that the emperor chain might be a possible location, but it doesn't have enough islands. Now I feel like the coast of Asia or Africa is more likely. Coast of Asia is littered with islands after all.
As for the imported species and plants, AE probably bringed them to sustain their dinos. Trying to give them something relatively close to what they could have eaten in the past.
Makes sense, but we need more data on what plants are present on the island. A full list would be great. If they are all from the old world (Europe, Asia and Africa), a location in Asia/Africa makes sense. If it's a mix of old and new world (American/South American) plants, then the location is more problematic
What if some of the more problematic plants spread from gardens or planted plants for decoration? Because if everything went to hell the plants would spread beyond the human compounds over time
Assembling a complete list of all the flora on the island seems a bit precarious task. Probably studying the needs of plants that we know of is less of a hunt. The amount of rainfall they need, temperature, etc. It should be possible to position the island somewhere with suitable ocean currents and wind patterns. This is of course only possible if the developers have put the time and effort into such details. Which I, to be honest, find unlikely. Also Steel, I doubt that AE is a type of corporation to put much effort into outdoor gardens. Besides, it takes a while for even the most invasive species to take over island sized areas.
The island probably has some plants which originated from plantations (like the banana trees, possibly). Most of the trees are probably native flora. The grass is probably introduced as well since there aren't any known native land grazing animals prior to the advent of introduced plant eating dinosaurs.
The grass probably already existed on the island before A.E set up shop, some of the more exotic ones might have been brought there
I mean, local fauna would be thrown into absolute chaos in the advent of introducing dinosaurs. Massive lizards would be likely to outcompete most of the more specialized native species. Curiously, the ecosystem is yet to collapse. If the animals escaped all at once and the surrounding ecosystem was not partially reconstructed to suit their needs, very few of the dinosaur species would have survived. The fact that the plants and some of the fauna do not match any specific area hints that this was done. Seems possible that the dinosaurs were purposefully released onto the island. For what outcome, we can only speculate.
If it's the uploading of human consciousness, Spiro doesn't have to be on Earth necessarily....right? Kind of like in Avatar? I'm not sure how that works though. Maybe the different strains and more 'scary' creatures there are 'human consciousnesses' gone rogue...for lack of a better way to explain it. Kind of like AI left alone to gain intelligence, mutate and grow, they become independent, rejecting the monitoring systems, etc. I'm not sure though. (On a crazier note, maybe prisoners / bad folks are having their consciousness used for experimentation or the like...thus the 'redemption' idea part?)
The grasslands appear to be a direct result of dinosaur and/or human activity. Though tribals could have (maybe) been deliberately causing forest fires to find prey like deer or fowl more easily, large sauropods (e.g. brachiosaurus and apatosaurus) could be deforesting the island as well. There aren't many species of grass. There's reeds at river banks, and then the bulk of grass in plains is some sort of warm season grass.
(Or it might just be a map feature to improve the gameplay experience)
I could roll along with your theory if there were some actual signs of human activity. Fallen or charred tree trunks, stumps, or something like it. The grasslands are currently just empty. No signs of changing or unstable surroundings in the plantlife or anything like it. The plant life on the island feels very lifeless in general. That kinda just convinces me that the devs have not put that much effort into the way they implement their plants.
Having more depth with plant life would be cool (and I'm a plant nerd, so I'm clearly in support).
Yeah same, I absolutely love all types of plant life.
Does primordial carnage have anything with the isle lore?
Primordial carnage 
Yes, the original primal carnage and the isle are in the same universe
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Yes.
what if its a time paradox in the bermuda triangle
It's not
there not the same universe but the isle has the same past as pc
what is the lore? I don't know much apart from pc and ti being in the same universe.
there is a doc pinned to this channel check it out
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If Evrima was there all along before it was found out, maybe there was some other peculiar and mysterious creatures we may encounter?
@cinder atlas hey Gar can you please nuke this convo?
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Cleaning this place up
could be like this- you spawn , and you and your team( as you spawned with a group of 3-5) immediately have to find a hiding spot, as overhead the helicopter that dropped you off fly's away. you only have a weak pistol with 5 rounds, light body armor, and a bad headlamp. because you spawn with so little, you and the others who also spawned in the helicopter must find a base. once you locate one, you must rid it of potential dinos, and then a lightweight door spawns at the entrance. you then must reinforce the shelter before nightfall with the varying amount of recourses found in the base. at the dawn of the next day you must find food and water, as you used all your recourses the night before. you then must decide what to. its a dangerous place, and your only hope of getting off the island is to die, to collect the things the company who hired you need in order to pay you, or don't get off, and become a freak of nature, along with everything else, on the isle.- this is my take on how you could spawn as a mercenary.
This is more gameplay related and not lore related
the isle the isle is a island off the west coast of south america of dinosaurs on a remote island off the maps the government of north america and south america keep this island under the raps. A federations named A.E keep this place under the raps if any one where to find it who knows what danger could happen the island is called evrima and they seem to find new creatures every day and make new creatures...some of these creatures they make like genius H or as u know them to be hypos these jiant beast are huge and there size is smaller when compared to there destructive power 1 hypo carno could destroy a whole entire ecosystem and that is nothing when it comes to bigger type H'S like the hypo spino and rex they do plan on making new type h creatures who know's what could happen. There is also talk of older islands like evrima there saying evrima is rather new that is all i kno- blood dripping (DISCLAIMER! VISITING EVRIMA OR ANY OF THE ISLANDS IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN IF YOU DO VISIT U WILL BE SHOT OR MOST LIKELY GET AN LONG TERM SENTENCE! TELL ANYONE OF THIS MESSAGE THEM AND U WILL BE PUNISHED!)

Correction: We do not know where Isla Spiro (the tropical Evrima map) is, but it's most likely off the coast of South or Central America, based on the name (but it also has a bunch of plant species from Asia, like Bananas, so it may be elsewhere).
But basing off the name, it's probably named by Spanish or Portuguese people who landed there prior to the manmade introduction of Dinosaurs.
A few centuries after probable discovery, Apollo Engineering (aka Apollo or A.E.), a genetics and (possibly) military company, buy the island, then they clone a bunch of modified Dinosaurs (for as of now unknown reasons), and, probably without knowing, have also disturbed the peaceful lives of the island's indigenous people.
Something happens and then the clones break out. They turn out to form a coherent ecosystem (if not a bit unstable due to the ammount of large carnivores)
I feel like the tribals may not be native to the island. There are multiple tweets from Olympus Transmitter that hint at them being created by the corp(s). They are also referred to as generation 1 which raises the question, where does generation 2 come from?
There could be a case that they're engineered as well.
we require more lore stuff to decode, devs pls
dondi
Anyone ,_,
I hope that the "Guts" will be added in update 3 and that it adds more lore stuff
yeah cool but like, the point is to have lore content in it and not just be empty
There are supposed to be paintings inside the cave
Nothing has been confirmed to be inside of the Guts.
not even blood? 
wow a whole lot of nothing
@outer verge With the name 'Isla Spero', Its very likely to be somewhere in spanish colonized waters.
it might also just be the name given to it by AE, and not relevant to its geographical location whatsoever
that would infer that AE are a spanish speaking company? seems unlikely.
it would infer that AE simply likes the sound of Isla Spero, which isn't that unlikely
companies don't really do that, Islands are named in the language of the area or the language of the people who own/found it. It's like calling an island off of the coast of Australia that was found/claimed by English speaking people 'île jaune". Doesn't make sense.
I know, what I'm saying is that until we have confirmation it's important to keep in mind that the name may not be relevant to its location
I'm not denying that, but as I say, with the given facts its likely going to be somewhere in Spanish colonized waters
It is very plausible and even probable that the island is somewhere near North America since the only countries that are apparently capable of coming up with super-secret high tech companies are the USA, Russia, and maybe the UK
Apollo Engineering is probably an american corporation, true. But that doesn't mean they have to stick to american coasts.
They may have assets around the globe, yeah.
And knowing Americans...
Why not buy islands from places around the globe which are cheaper.
Seeing as InGen did it with JP
It would be cheaper and, depending on the country, a place of less rules about animal cruelty and laws based in that section- that being what they've done to the animals they have created is terrible and quite bas (mainly looking at strains)
Apollo engineering = Phoenix v2? Perhaps. We all heard the Ptera in the transmission video
Spero is not a word in Spanish wtf
its spiro i think spero is the other isle coming to evrima
its not a different island. they just misspelled it the first few times
lol
Spiro/Spero means something
Not necessarily as both Spiro and Spero are latin words
According to the all-mighty Google Translate 'Spero' translates to hope or expect. 'Spiro' means breath, din, and/or rough.
@icy onyx Spero is also a spanish word, as a lot of spanish is derived from latin.
Esperar was derived from Sperare
now imagine the island names are codephrases used by AE and not the actual island names kek
I-5 af
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Well judging by the environment, it looks to be tropical
Also spero and spiro are different. Devs ran into a problem with spero so they bootlegged spiro into existence. Explains why the environment, such as the lack of small streams through forests and hillier areas exist
@icy onyx Spero is also a spanish word, as a lot of spanish is derived from latin.
@forest carbon spero its not spanish. espero is spanish, it means "i hope" or "im waiting (something)" depending on the context
in Spanish it may be espero, but in Latin it's spero which also means "I hope" and in the lore Isla Spero is "Hope Island"
I did not see that coming
and hope was the name of the trailer
So an English name for the island would be "Hope Island"
personally i dont think this game is based on earth... no where i know on earth is it night time longer then day time and is tropical and rains this much... even the artics is more one sided and trades depending on season
It was AlIenS
I think that's because it's a video game
personally i dont think this game is based on earth... no where i know on earth is it night time longer then day time and is tropical and rains this much... even the artics is more one sided and trades depending on season
@blissful forge
So uh, as a Finnish person I can say that nights are hecka long, especially on winter. But because The Isle currently has no hecka T H I C C snow and is tropical I can't prove it's somewhere north-and-a-littlebit-south.
It being based on Earth or not is pretty irrelevant, it changes nothing in regards to the rest of the lore other than reinforce the fact that anything is possible.
Though I guess one possible solution to that could be that the island is covered by a dome of some sort that allows AE to decide when day/night/seasons are
That Hunger games dome is a fun and exciting theory but it seems a bit unlikely to me since making a dome that massive would be an enormous undertaking.
This is a company capable of bringing back dinosaurs and creating mutant monsters we're talking about here. Hunger games dome isn't that far fetched considering their known accomplishments
anyone else excited to see how the cannibal will react with attacking normal people? Like we know it can climb walls and stuff. itll be a major horror game for those guys. got dinos outside and cannibals even trying to jump on u and bite ur face off.
But they do ignore gravity on dinos animations
They do ngl
Oh I know nights can get heck long Hense I said what I did about the season (I'm alaskan)
Isn't it a force field and not literally a dome?
We know Apollo Engineering is capable of some wack stuff, like bringing back dinosaurs and what not, but you could also tie this back to the theory that the dinos in the isle are actually cyborgs, or perhaps are being controlled by some exterior force. Maybe even Apollo Engineering themselves?
Dinos likely have chips installed in their body/their brain. And they might also have actual human minds inside of them.
so what i think is going on with some of this is for like isla spero/spiro is they have made an ecosystem i dont think theres a replicator on these island and its prob a while before it was even made then when they made the replicator is when everything fails so the isle isnt about dinos thats the problem its the replicator(i think) so its an ai apocalypse story
Actually I remember something that the original release of each map was formally gonna be done that way because of lore reasons
Island of Hope is a better translation
"Hope for a better tomorrow" af
i think i have an idea
Same
im new hre
His idea was not told
i dont think thats what he meant
Well we wont really know what he meant
not the same just similar i dont think theres a connection
so you think this is with higher sea lvls
I have a theory about this game
Let’s hear it
Why would the island be named Isla Spiro if it's West Point Island ? I'm pretty sure it's fictional
is the island a man made island or smt?
it's almost a perfect fit here
though I don't think that they're the same, especially since before evrima's release the devs showed off 1 or 2 other islands
oh and also you accidentally cut off the tip of spero so here's it without the tip missing, I do see similarities but I doubt they're connected
well map that big, that would be something, for kids to starve faster and cry about it :d
it's just a coincidence, here's the full island.
that part of the map looks like a majungasaurus i find
What
majung lore
dead chat
every chat except offtopic ded
I think, theoretically, that there may be dinosaurs on this island.
Spero will (very likely) be retconned considering how bloody big it is.
unless we're able to have a ridiculous amount of players in a single server, yeah I think so too
We'd just have to see what'll happen after 100% of the map is opened up to us.
you'll just have to wait until after the test.
i know this is for lore theories but lemme ask this what do you guys think they did to clone the animals to begin with im pretty sure everyone should know by now how the hypos are made ad what they are made for but what about the normal animals
the lore, the isle lore hs been bogoling my mind for the past 5 years, so its time, to put an end. in the load up screen of the isle, we see that its a globe, a 3D globe, know it is in my theory, that humans found an island untouched bye the astroid, then as soon as all humans do, try to control it, they tried to make it a zoo, soon they realized that they could not contain it, te humans started to die, the cages broke, and the dinosaurs let free, soon the whole world herd about this news, and they ALL tried to controll it, they made towers, and dams and buildings, but they all came to the same fate, death, it could not be contained but one company wouldnt give up, at port, they started to research, take DNA samples from regular dinosaurs, and they tried to recreate them to bring them back to the main land, but the reacreaction failed, and instead, they made hypos, the hypos QUICKLY broke out and caused havick
then, after that they hypos destroyed the ecosystem, with only one hypo of each, they could not repraduce, the hypos ate all of the dinosaurs with no match to its own power, then they all starved, the lore to EVERMA is that the humans realized dinosaurs should remain extinct, so many many years later, they started to make an island for the dinosaurs, one that could be contained, they created blue barriers, to stop them from breacking the barrier, but know the humans have a controlled ecosystem,
really
how would it be hard to contain dinosaurs from an island? why would the hypos be so perfect at killing things if it was just a big mistake? why the fuck would the port be the research center even though it would quickly be invaded by dinosaurs that could somehow travel from islands to continents?
how the hell could humans waste billions of dollars and create a giant wall that blocks off an entire island instead of nuking the whole place to ashes
BRO CHILL THE HELL OUT ITS JUST A THEORY geese
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how the hell do they keep the pteranodons from escaping?
i don't know
to be completely honest the pteranodons know about the main land more than likely 🤷 how the water animals that are "planned" for the future i have no clue how those will stay to the island when they can swim away
I think special barrier like on Spero keeps things in, the replicator sees to it that its pets are contained >:)
maybe if they go too far they get electrocuted and DIE 
majunga lore
they could have some neural chip that makes them stay or their brains altered to some extent to make them not want to leave the islands perimeters. There also could be some sort of massive force field keeping them in but that would raise the question of how the mercenaries get in without releasing the specimens.
If the island is all the animals have ever known it wouldn't seem likely that they tried actively leave it. They don't know the mainland exists. However, if the animals are more than your average dinos something along the lines of neural chips would indeed make sense. Tho note that the animals are capable of reproducing so the newborn animals would lack the chip and would have to be chipped individually.
everytime when i read the weird stuff the developers put in this game like "you are being controlled" "i cannot choose favourites" i always feel scared idk why it has such a creepy atmosphere
btw do you guys think these could be dig sites?
the first time i saw it i thought it was the apollo facilities but since there was none in the middle of the sea it made a lot of sense to be dig sites besides that several isle dinos were found in these red spots
yep i just confirmed this theory these red dots are on top of the most well-known paleontological sites including the famous hell crek formation
i think people look where some r irl and saw nothing so its prob just for deco
bruh if u think about it and just maybe pteradons cant fly forever @carmine bone
The only place in Finland where you can collect fossils is Åland (and there it's just trilobites n stuff)
Åland is pretty cool
I mean the dinosaurs are from different periods of time so do you think they brought them back and put them all on one island to keep away from the world to view there behaviour as one unity.
Seems like a Jurassic world view
The dot isn't in Åland tho, or 'Ahvenanmaa' as it is called in Finnish. The dot is directly on top of the city of Oulu. Which is something I find very bizarre since the only interesting thing in Oulu is the local university.
Yes I know it's not there.
I know you know
I’m just thinking how do different species of dinosaurs from different periods, it’s hard to explain it without it sounding like Jurassic park
I think it's fair tbh. The Isle has pretty clearly been heavily inspired by JP. The dinosaur noises and general concepts are often quite similar. This is one of Jurassic Park 4s early concepts. Looks pretty familiar ngl.
Fair enough
I was just thinking because the animals just like Jurassic park aren’t accurate to the latest findings, so do you think it was an evolutional factor or just like Jurassic park where they filled the DNA with other creatures.
I think it's ✨creative freedom✨
Good point
that thing is the kim kardashian of monsters
If thats in the isle im getting a refund
XD
The creatures in The Isle are genetically engineered (Beipiaosaurus and Hypsilophodon are prime examples, with beipi being like a cormorant in-game rather than the cryptic plant eater it was in real life)
Im with u
Ay yo does anyone have a doc with the isle's ominous messages
I have no idea what they're called, I just know I want to read them again
the what?
Pinned messages
well from i know you are a human connected by a device to your selected creature
and basically AE is playing god by modifying creatures
as seen by the type-N spino and all of the other type´s , that could also mean that any dino is modified by default to be balanced in the eco system of the islands
the title screen shows many of the modified specimen
hm
That looks a lot like the cannibal mutants
Yeah exactly
The aviary?? but in order to stop them from flyin off they'd have shock collars or somethin
Guy this might be a bit of a stretch but
But..?
the dinos have chips in them or something in legacy that make them not wanna be by buildings made they did the same on spiro
I never understood the chip explanation
Ain't no way a bunch of humans just chipped dinosaurs that were born on the island. There would be too many. Maybe the ones that spawned in, but dinosaurs nested in wouldn't have a chip and I doubt humans traveled to these dangerous places just to chip animals in sn attempt to keep them away from their abandoned facilities
Actually devs talked about "benefits" from being nested in the future
Some people think that the benefit is that you don't have a chip, and as such you can go near buildings without getting radio parasites.
Sounds cooler than just bonus perks tbh, although it's quite unlikely.
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well you wouldnt be able to play the dinos without the chips
This theory changes everything
It makes no sense tho. The chips are not a biological component of the animals and thus cannot be passed on through breeding. So hatchlings shouldn't have a chip
since you as a human in game interact with a device that allows you to be the dino throught the chip
"You're actually a human controlling the dinosaur" theory doesn't make sense
^ why would a human ever want to possess a dinosaur, there's no rhyme nor reason to it
The theory only makes sense if you are dropped into the map as your dinosaur. But animals born on the island have no connection to humans and thus cannot posses a chip. Yet, we can still play as them. I also want to know how this whole theory started to begin with, cause it sounds ridiculous
I guess because of the radio static? It makes little to no sense
so u think the neuro spino lives in pain whole life , how can it even possibly live , every strain is human modified creature ,
Same way a human being can live their life with chronic back pain.
There are better ways to explain that. Maybe a high pitched sound that annoys the animals when they approach buildings. Chips wouldn't even make sense if that were the base of the theory . All the animals are humanly modified, that doesn't mean they are controlled by people. If an animal is born with a certain reality of pain it will grow into the idea that it's normal. Throw a frog in a pot of water and slowly boil it and the frog will slowly get used to the temperature and cook itself alive
the radio tower could cause all of the dinos to loose conciousness for the humans to be them
I don't think the Neuro Spino lives in pain, and if it does I don't see what that has to do with this chip stuff.
That would mean the animals are mechanical in some way. Once again, a chip couldn't do that and nothing we have seen suggests the animals are mechanical in some way. How is this a theory?
neuro spino being made...
Just a lil tummy ache
Ok, and? The strains have some level of legitimacy but every animal cannot possess a chip. Most of these animals can breed and create hatchlings without chips
this is the only picture we have so far revealing the truth about strains so far
That image proves literally nothing. That could've been the animal being brought back to a base after being killed.
so strains are being born in the wild now 
No, they're not built like you're putting a bunch of lego pieces together, they are instead genetically modified, so bringing it back to a base after it being killed is a probable situation
As I have stated, the strains make viable sense when it comes to chips and remote controlling. Everything outside of the strains does not. The other animals can breed. No human is gonna risk their life chipping animals on a dangerous island just do someone else can control it
When did I say that? Yes, the strains were created, but they weren't placed on a floor and put together like puzzle pieces. And nowhere does the image show a chip being placed.
I highly doubt strains are manufactured that way, gentic tampering is our best bet
all hypos can breed , other cant
So the hyper/hypocondirin strain and it's successor, the Magnus strain, can breed in the wild.
pretty sure the hypos being able to breed is just a mistake and not gonna be a real feature
The limited time a hyper has would be spent hunting constantly, i highly doubt they're capable of breeding
My theory: You are playing as the dinosaur because that's the point of this video game.
Hypers are meant to starve to death, not breed. They will not focus on breeding, only hunting
neuros and magnas cant breed
Primal Carnage's rexes stem from a single parent, "Big Daddy" (Phoenix's first cloned dinosaur in the game's lore, with the genetic material stemming from Apollo's type M rex, applying the list of assets Phoenix stole from them)
I dont think any of the strains are capable of breeding, could be wrong on that
I think it's the other way around soup
Actually, we have no clue on the M breeding, since Magna is basically the Primal Carnage version of our animals...
divines have a old the isle version where hypos are played , magnas cant breed neuro too and only hypos can
that's because hypos were worked on more than the rest....
hypos being able to breed is easily a mistake/something that will be removed
@icy onyx
next you'll say that hatchling suchos being able to nest is a lore thing
Ah ok. I thought it was the other way round. Secondly, in Primal Carnage, the dinosaurs have been implied to have bred out in the wild (well the other species such as the spitters, the pterosaurs and the raptors, have)
It's confirmed not implied i think
The point of this is that chips controlling animals makes no sense biologically and mechanically. That theory should just be put under raps
Yeah in the game, you most likely are playing as as a regular dinosaur, not as one with a control chip implanted in its brain.
Let's not mention the fact that the amount of people controlling all the animals would be incredibly high. Thousands of people spending in-game years of their lives as an animal that is going to die in the end
Could this be the "thousand life contract" that one of the official soundtracks of the game refers to?
people could have been kidnapped , that could also lead to what are the cannibals
Cannibals are said to not actually be human and instead are genetic amalgamations involving human DNA. Kidnapping humans would be highly inefficient when all these people want is a naturalized environment where they can test biological weapons. It wouldn't make sense in the long run
Dondi said he's going to be streaming later tonight for a second time. Is anyone able to be there just in case the stream has some spoilers? In the stream that just ended following stuff was briefly mentioned:
- Hypo fences
- Enclosures / giant gates
- Rocks for quarry wall
Nothing exactly specific or exiting but oh well
So my theory is, basicly there is this big company (like ingen) that created dinos to resarch their behaviors against certan conditions. Later when they've got the tech and the budget to do something bigger, they installed all dinos with neural thing thingies that give them controll over the body of the sellected dinoaur. And once they had enough thec they added the neural thing thingy to the genetic code of all dinos. Stupid theory. Ok. Sad ;-;
I guess the bigger company could be phoenix corp?
the isle corp is Apollo Engineering and primal carnage corp is Phoenix Corporation and it is public knowledge that these 2 are connected
Theres a google doc i think
Should have most if not all the details
^ I advise reading the website too
theres a rex called big daddy tf
it makes much more sense that the devs making the recode is just a retcon of the original, confusing mess that was the old lore
It's a nickname for the specimen, but I can't remember the true code name.
btw, isn't Thronebreaker the name of Primal Carnage's spino ?
pictured a spino destroying that sword throne from game of thrones
in the isle its the hypo rex
In Primal Carnage I'm pretty sure the Thronebreaker project was about creating a Spinosaurus clone (which succeeded, with an individual nicknamed "Badass")
does anybody kno how to become mercanary
It’s not in the game yet
i think is was for a few days but all u could do was walk around and die
Thronebreaker is most certainly the spino and not the hyper rex
Yep. It was the name of the project, not the individual.
wasnt it confirmed that it was tho pc was hspino and ti was hrex
what
i mean in the pinned messages there's misinformation from a hyper rex wip where it's called the thronebreaker. the primal carnage spino is also called the thronebreaker. but since the console stream refers to the thronebreaker during operation inferno, we can conclude that the thronebreaker actually refers to the spino and not the hyper rex. now afaik there's no such thing as a project thronebreaker, it's just a nickname like alphonse or big daddy from primal carnage
Ok makes sense
my theory is that the lore makes no sense so the devs are rebooting the lore as well as the gameplay with evrima XD
I always thought that dots on the cover page map were places where the dinos in the game were originally discovered.
assuming it had lore to begin with
You know the devs should make another game like the isle but in ice age
If there was an idle game but it was the ice age that would be awesome
how'd they fit it into the lore tho?
to clarify the isle is attached to primal carnage in lore right?
no
yes it is
no
it is but there is a timeline split pce is not related to the isle but pc is
dondi wanted to do that but they say no (i thunk)
fuck knows at this point
The Isle and Primal Carnage (minus Exctinction) have interconnected lore. Phoenix Corp (the organization that made PC dinos) is a rival of Apollo Engineering (the corporation that made dinos in The Isle)
and dondi used to be a pc dev i think
he was I'm pretty sure
Yeah but he did a terrible job at it (failed to do a proper patch, and then proceeded to make the game go downhill with his proposal of a recode)
hmmmm
sounds weirdly similar
Dont talk about something like this in here. #401470471750811669 would be appropriate
yes he was, he is an ex dev for PC, and wanted to make a dinosaur survival mode for the game, but the other devs didn't like that so he split off from them
Yeah, nothing to do with coding.
Isle Lore in a nutshell: Dinos
Deinosuchus was an inside job
its all a dream
jet fuel doesn't melt elder rex
Lmao
hypo acro did recode
Anyone know if this is legit or fan made
Fan made
was hoping this was legit, this a better hypo rex update to me then the concept art done
oml that is amazing
but to be picky the head is a bit small and arms a bit big
well it is a hyper
well you can tell whoever made it that, idk who it is, i screenshot it from an isle news video
tailend of this video so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qg38alFrNY
The future of The Isle Evrima looks brilliant with Elders and ''something more terrifying'', we players can choose from if certain perk paths, diets are followed on specific dinosaurs. Is Tyrannosaurus Rex arriving in Evrima sooner than we expect as surprise? Is balance in-game gonna be out of balance with Elders? I don't mind as it gives an act...
I found where it came from #isle-fan-art message
still would prefer that to the official re-design, actually still looks like the hypo rex we all know
and it fits better aesthetically with the other existing hypo models for the other species better than the old or new rex
The transmitter is active!!!!!
So i guess olympus transmiters are like a once a year thing?
looks like really fudged up morse code
someone give me the tl'dr of this transmission shiz niz
this is what it said:
A̶r̴e̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̷ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̸ ̷
̶ ̸ ̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸Y̷o̵u̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̸ ̶ ̸ ̵ ̷ ̶
̵ ̵ ̶ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̷ ̸ ̸S̸t̴i̴l̴l̴ ̵ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴
̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴ ̸ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̵ ̴H̵e̷r̴e̴?̸ ̸ ̶
It's fan made but like 🥵
A̶r̴e̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̷ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̸ ̷
̶ ̸ ̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸Y̷o̵u̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̸ ̶ ̸ ̵ ̷ ̶
̵ ̵ ̶ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̷ ̸ ̸S̸t̴i̴l̴l̴ ̵ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴
̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴ ̸ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̵ ̴H̵e̷r̴e̴?̸ ̸ ̶
someone made an account for a receiver #transmissions message
Oh cool I’m like half asleep I just got the ping that they posted
it’s probably relating to Dondi’s recent tweet about the lore
what did he tweet can you possibly link it?
May start posting snippets of the written out Isle lore, because at this point it's basically a book and why not.
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A̶r̴e̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̷ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̸ ̷
̶ ̸ ̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸Y̷o̵u̷ ̴ ̷ ̶ ̸ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̸ ̵ ̸ ̶ ̸ ̵ ̷ ̶
̵ ̵ ̶ ̴ ̵ ̵ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̷ ̸ ̸S̸t̴i̴l̴l̴ ̵ ̸ ̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̶ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴
̴ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̶ ̵ ̵ ̴ ̴ ̴ ̸ ̷ ̶ ̵ ̷ ̸ ̵ ̴H̵e̷r̴e̴?̸ ̸ ̶
Ugh huh... we shall see
Can someone explain to me what the lore of this game is or at least the best theory
Cause I seem to be lost
Check the pins
Ah okay fair enough
Well, not much on this transmission but hopefully it'll pick up some momentum
the isle novel 
Are the lines some sort of Morse code again? 😵
OH FUQ TRANSMITTOR'S BACK
no it's just a "spooky" filter
portal turret voice are you still there? :3
the lines seem a little too regular to be morse, but it wouldn't surprise me. think it's just supposed to be a visual way of representing static or a slightly garbled message
spoopy.
He used Unicode signs to make the text look like this
Is it a teaser for human content?
no but the devs have talked about them
unless you count the buildings as human content
The transmission I mean. Makes sense it would be human related...
Guess so, dinosaurs can't read... 
That was my exact line of thinking haha... but also they don't use the radio, so i would assume the mercs who use the radio
I think the transmission is people at the Olympus Transmitter trying to see if anyone anyone at the Olympus Receiver is still alive or there, and considering they've only gotten one response from the receiver two years ago and none more since Imma guess they dead
what killed them doe
Scary matriarch
Bat thing
yeah if i remember correctly, it's implied by the conversations with the profiles (see pins) that the matriarch or echidna is the "what went wrong." that or a virus that caused humans to become cannibalistic dinosaur-hybrids.
or both! could be both
Mech raptor?
I was thinking that the last transmission was asking if anyone made it to Evrima cause it showed the door the EVRIMA and then the last transmission so it kinda makes sense right?
What white pillar
the one they said wasnt related to lore lol
Take a gander at the channel description, folks.
Tolerance in here is very diminutive.
I'm different.
But also, yeah that's what I'm thinking. And to be fair most likely anyone to read that post.
bear in mind, all transmissions start with the text "//...INCOMING TRANSMISSION". that and it's never been a dialogue between two transmitters as far as I know. if this one was a response, to check and see if anyone's still out there, what does that make all the other messages? is the transmitter just broadcasting into the void?
It does seem unlikely but not totally impossible from what I know. What I know isn't a lot to be fair.
there was one response
#transmissions message
So wait theres a reciever? It on twitter?
out-of-canon explanation, the AE-12 transmitter was the first transmitter which didn't make posts on twitter but joined the voice channels and played morse code. Likely, when the idea of the transmitter became cemented, they made a proper account for it in the new olympus transmitter
Ngl the AE-12 morse code transmitter sounded like a great idea
i imagine everyone would end up missing lore 'cause no one's willing to sit shifts in the transmitter channel
trust me people would sit in that vc for hours taking shifts was all ways atleast 10 people in the vc for the morse code
^ definitely me on my days off of work
Just here to ask if anyone has this strange.txt file in their downloads too? Like I literally cleaned my PC up and stumbled upon this file. I scnned it. Doesnt seem to be something bad and its just Text that goes like :
I ...
They
Seeking
Save.
I ...
all over ? like many many times ??? I really have no idea where this comes from but seemed pretty isle like to me ?
Can you upload the file here?
Hold the fuck on so something replicated/is replicating a section of Region2 on Spiro? I need some bigger brained people to talk more about this.
Region 2 is being implimented into isla spiro
Really?! Bruh, that's amazing
It was the dinosaurs
Yes but the transmitter also acknowledged it, so wouldn't that mean that the island/something on the island (IE: replicator but if that can shape the island like this then woo) is replicating part of Region 2 on Spiro in cannon?
bet the replicator just misses seeing dinos do sick flips into cannonball
i thought u meant an actual cannonball not the lake
dinosaurs
heh
It missed seeing Rexes fall short and die instantly on the side of cannonball.
ops sorry
I don't know if I am allowed tbh
Just send it to me in a DM
Will do later as I am currently on my phone and also turned my laptop into a helicopter yesterday as I seemingly damaged one badly soldered cable on one of my fans while cleaning the dust out. It's freaking loud and my gf is currently still sleeping 😅
Okay
ебать, этож матриарх
It is.
By the way, you are better to speak English here :)
I havent updated my isle so i can have pre evrima lore files in my drive so no
What were the 3 options from when the lore first started? I know there was Godfather (Which is what khorne chose), but i cant remember the other 2
during the streams
All-Father, Throne-Breaker and Alphonse iirc
ah yes the famously feared movie the godfather 
lmao
Im not waiting the cooldown, Thankyou Lunchabills
I'm so excited that after a whole year the transmitter has become active and that there is something out there looking to see if there is anyone left. On a different topic I think the google doc needs to be updated to include the 2 new transmission.
