so i was booting up the isle but i had open my edge browser while its was running the splash screen so i couldnt hear the audio..... and then i heard a bunch of beeps . like beep beep beeep beep beep....beep (.. .- .)
#isle-lore-theories
bleak shore
sharp osprey
@bleak shore That's not relevant to this channel
bleak shore
im suggesting there mau be clues outside of where we would think to look
bleak shore
i dont know morse so im not sure if the beeps would translate to something else
sonic nebula
@bleak shore The beeps could translate to Morse code like one short beep could be a dot ( . ) and a long beep could possible be a dash ( - )
if that helps any
bleak shore
right but i dont know what they translate into like leters ,# etc.;
topaz raptor
Post them then lol there are people here who know Morse and can decipher if it means anything.
I'd post a few copies of what you think the message is though so there's a good chance of it being translated correctly.
echo gazelle
This that "Airplane" noise people have been talking about? Heard it in a certain area at night, it wasn't continuous.
mighty abyss
that's just wind
echo gazelle
yeah you're probably right, just sounds like a generator of some sort ot me
coarse topaz
I always thought that noise was a plane tbh
fringe sparrow
it only happens when you reach higher elevation
nocturne cosmos
that dont sound like wind
coarse topaz
Still sounds really weird for wind
I'd be worried if wind starts sounding like a generator
coarse topaz
wind has evolved into hypo wind
icy onyx
I have a theory on the Type-N Spino
the spines on its back causes its EMP abilities by vibrations
and may or may not have something to do with its weather manipulation.
junior pewter
found these weird markings in the aviary? idk if its a bug or my PC ...
weirder at the bottom
icy onyx
Minecraft has a cooler story, lol
calm fable
regal locust
Those’re just fucky textures.
ancient spindle
Yep
gray birch
Minecraft has some not much
hidden totem
Actually it reminds me of those rorschach tests
rapid locust
looks sort of like a super basic wood pattern
though I can picture the first image going "owo"
twin vale
i think that's called low shadow quality
icy onyx
lol debunked
weary tundra
@echo gazelle That really sounds like an aircraft of some sort. To man-made sounding to be wind
echo gazelle
@weary tundra Yeah, what I was thinking as well. It's too grindy to be wind. I've heard a second one right when you enter a Server but that one is hard to catch, the server must be freshly restarted or something.
weary tundra
Was it on V3 or Theyaw?
echo gazelle
V3
weary tundra
Hmm, it'd make sense for aircraft to be coming or going (to check on the island or the dinosaurs?)
Ashame you can't see it
echo gazelle
Also it was at a specific location, didn't hear it anywhere else
weary tundra
Do you have coords?
echo gazelle
I can get them, first I'll see if it still makes the noise there first
weary tundra
Okay awesome 👍
echo gazelle
I will say it's near the large dockyard, just up the hill to the right going towards the reservoir
weary tundra
Could it be a sound carrying over from docks? I know sometimes there's metal creaking/wind over there 🤔
echo gazelle
@weary tundra this is the coords, there was no noise when I went there, going to try again when it's night because that's when I heard it. Also I hope I don't have to be as big as a Rex to hear it.
weary tundra
Oh nice!! Thanks Lunch!!
echo gazelle
So I put three clips together. Two of them consist of the same noise that I posted earlier. The other is normal sounds that take place after. So the level of elevation and it being just wind is exempt. Now I don't know if this is the dockyard that the Broadcast Tower refers to in the morse Awaiting signal from Dockyard. But maybe there's something we are missing. Not sure though. Just speculation as always.
ripe hare
So, my friend and I noticed that there's an interesting area of text in the bottom left of the death screen. We let ourselves die 3 times, and a different text amongst the... coding? showed up each time. The text consists of "HELP ME!", "Is anyone there?!", and finally, "THE END IS NEVER THE END" which was repeated in the same line of text 4 times.
I'm going to let myself die a bunch when I get home today to see if anymore of these will show up
I don't have any theories about it at the moment, I just found it intriguing and chose to post it in here to see what others can come up with
echo gazelle
@ripe hare That's been checked before. Check the Document in the Pinned Messages.
ripe hare
Ah, it has?
That said "loading screen" so I assumed it hadn't meant the death screen
I'll definitely go and look into it if that's the case!
echo gazelle
@ripe hare They've added more stuff to the doc. Such as Morse Code, Binary
ripe hare
Ah, okay. Thank you for telling me! ^^
echo gazelle
So I've been curious about these items I marked in the images. Could they be some form of barcode? Like a Postnet or Planet barcode. Just a thought, I've tried converting them with an online converter but it did no justice. Thought I'd share it here for others to make an attempt.
slow delta
Interesting
stray egret
you know the weird looking dna thing on the left of the character menu.well i think 1. you have to stay around the human areas and it will show what stage you are at or when you mate when the lil' dino mates and so on the dna format starts to make it hypo as the generations go by
severe lark
Dna thing is confirmed to be apart of the affinity system
vague glen
Affinity system?
vague glen
So, I saw this, and while it's probably discussed to death I think the word choice is rather interesting. A 'completely adaptable organism'. Might hint that the Matriarch when implemented may be omnivorous, probably able to eat all kinds of plants instead of select types like most of the pure herbivores. Although if it were only omnivorous, it wouldn't be called completely adaptable.
vague glen
So this came up during discussion, if this guy is meant to be speculated as one of the biggest creatures in the game, and hypo is said to only make things 100% bigger...
Then he can't have possibly come from a human, right?
icy onyx
well, it's hyperendocrin
the thing is that so far, we know how hyperendocrin strain makes you 2 times bigger in everyway
vague glen
But bigger than a hypo rex?
You'd have to be at least rex sized beforehand, wouldn't you?
I'm thinking that maybe the humanoid strains weren't necessarily human before the transformation
could be dinos evolving to be humanoid
icy onyx
and since that thing's only size comparisons we have are with a hypo rex and a Puert
sleek temple
could u not just keep giving it the strain?
sleek temple
yea
vague glen
yeah
icy onyx
but in one he's the height of the hypo rex, and on the other, he's taller than the puert's back, which is weird because a hypo rex doesn't go higher than a puert's shoulder
so, he's the size of a hypo rex ad minima
vague glen
Very unlikely that he was human beforehand then
icy onyx
and that means without the strain he'd be the height of a Trex
vague glen
regarding the theory of repeatedly giving it whatever turns you into a strain, it's pretty unlikely
icy onyx
and we are talkign humanoid
then, since the strain has only been seen on dinosaurs, we takje the scakes and stuff for granted
vague glen
even if it worked the way you described @sleek temple , if you started at the level of a human and kept giving it more and more until it was bigger than a puert and a hypo rex, then it would starve itself instantly
icy onyx
but we are talking a humanoid there
vague glen
So back to the theory that it came from dinos
and if that's right, then what about the other humanoid strains?
vague glen
the Reaper's art is outdated, but the Echidna's isn't, and it doesn't really look like it came from a dino
icy onyx
and neuro strain makes everything about 50-70% taller than the wild type
vague glen
It's also been mentioned as an intelligent entity before
sleek temple
neruo one is aparently just bigger than the cannibal thats not called a cannibal
vague glen
the echidna, that is.
And has referred to things as its "children"
so it's definitely intelligent
icy onyx
it'd make sense, carn
well yeah, it's not like the neuro strain made it intelligent or something
vague glen
Without knowledge about the cannibals we can't really speculate more on the origins of their strains
sleek temple
yea but ya gotta think of this
vague glen
and the cannibals themselves would be mutated humans
vague glen
so logically, must come from cannibals
icy onyx
I mean it takes every tissue that isn't absolutely necessary for survival into a par tof the nervous system
vague glen
the echidna bears thinking about though
aside from the fact that it's managed to escape captivity, apparently
sleek temple
well i saw on concept art the neruo mastermind was with a faceless cannibal thing whos not a cannibal
vague glen
which would place it as being really intelligent in the first place
icy onyx
We know that the Hyper Strain has been restricted to Rex, Spino, Giga, Carno and Utah because of how the quetz one failed
but
icy onyx
no limitation about the other strains
vague glen
Echidnas in real life are examples of really enhanced regeneration
They can grow back practically anything over time
icy onyx
we know spino has a neuro strain
I'm pretty sure "Echidna" is a reference to mythology and not the acutal animal
sleek temple
all the dinos with hypos will get each strain plus magna
vague glen
ah
icy onyx
all the dinos with hypos will get each strain plus magna
You got any proof to back that up?
vague glen
Also, did the quetz one really fail?
vague glen
That's what I was thinking
icy onyx
let's say there was a bunch of dead people, and it escaped or something...
vague glen
Trying to contain an, essentially superdino version of the quetz would likely be really difficult
icy onyx
well
vague glen
With the other hypos, they're all restricted to land
sleek temple
well they aint as hard to control as a flying 1 shot on ankys
icy onyx
guess they should have reinforced the aviary they used for it
vague glen
But the quetz would presumably get the same treatment as other hypos
sleek temple
the aviary should have a busted hole in it
vague glen
Much stronger, tougher, faster, and most importantly, bigger
Which means a wingspan that's twice as big as before
sleek temple
another thing to think of
sleek temple
how would it compare to other hypos
sleek temple
it has to be able to fly still
icy onyx
the plates and stuff
vague glen
It's likely that the strains have some physics altering qualities
icy onyx
even with muscles, you won't fly well
vague glen
I think it can be safely argued.
icy onyx
they ar emore intelligent but not psyckis or something
icy onyx
....
vague glen
I mean literally that they get too big to logically be capable of living
Square cube law, I believe it is
icy onyx
nah
I mean
the thing dinos used to balance themselves was their tails
but those ones, they are clever
they must have some jacked musckes around the pelvis to keep their bodies going
and their metabolism isn't your regular one
Also, Carno, you got a point
but the water thing should be a problem for all the strains
well, if Tisso isn't too changed
icy onyx
nah, wouldn't make sense
vague glen
no, I think
icy onyx
I mean, implented in a young dino, that'd work
vague glen
Tissos may have crippled stamina
sleek temple
or stam regen
sleek temple
like a carno
vague glen
not able to be sustained at all
icy onyx
but it's been mentionend that you can "grow" strains
you can't grow to adult then shrink down significally
vague glen
so it has to hit hard and fast, and if it fails the first time, it has to abandon the fight
sleek temple
well
icy onyx
sounds like a shit strain idea
sleek temple
it has to have a chance to escape hypos
id take the carnos stam way for tissos
or galli
both basically long term runners and bad stam regen
icy onyx
the Neuro can't escape a hypo
sleek temple
to be fair
icy onyx
so it fucks up the hypo's nervous system for a distance
sleek temple
neuros are actually quite fast
icy onyx
well they have big legs
icy onyx
because neuro have the mininal amount of tissue required for basic function and the rest is basically brain
vague glen
Well, the neuro spino has been said to have a blind, hasn't it?
sleek temple
hypo giga has the spikiest desgin if u dont count H carno
and H carno has an ambush for some reason which i dont get
mabye when it got the strain it learned the ability?
icy onyx
and is it me or are most hypos that aren't rex and carno have smaller leg:body ratio than their wild type?
icy onyx
he does
sleek temple
hes more adapt at water living
icy onyx
the other one that has that problem is Hypo Dilo's sketch from Tap
and since Dondi mentionned a "monster dilo" that would "spit"
sleek temple
meaning they prob wont be as fast as things like carno
icy onyx
and when he said "monster" you could feel it was a BIG dilo that was a real monster
sleek temple
but then
H spino
normal speed out speeds everything that isnt a carno
well
austro aswell
and it also has an ambush which makes it just below H carnos normal speed
icy onyx
the funny thing would be if they made tisso for the "smaller" versions of dinos
sleek temple
Hypos seem to have really bad ambush (not counting rex)
icy onyx
so you have a reason to play those smaller dinos
while having tissos that are smaller than their "regular"
sleek temple
tissos should be able to team with their own species
and remember they are like sensory bois and speed bois
icy onyx
tisso is probably the best one for cooperation with its own
because Hypers are genuine psychopaths
who are more intelligent but driven by a never ending hunger and being filled up with hormones from they hyperactive endocrinial system
sleek temple
its never said if tissos are smart or dumb
icy onyx
Neuros are super intelligents but it woudln't be "cooperation"
probably more playing chess with other dinos as its pawns
sleek temple
id say neruos could
but
if the water problem is neruos downfall
ud have to stay near water with a neuro
icy onyx
From what strains are capable off, water would be a problem with all of them
Hypos because of their metabolism in general
Neuros because dehydratation in the nervous system is something you REALLY don't want to get
especially when most of your tissues are brain
and Tissos, I'd say probably to cool down, since dinos can't sweat
sweating's op, btw
icy onyx
Here's how I see it
Hypo wrecks Tisso if it can't escape, and is too powerful/resistant for tisso to try anything against it
Neuro can render Hypo ineffective by shuting down it's nervous system or fuck with its mind
Tisso could be the hard counter to Neuro if it gets the jump on the Neuro since Neuro is a physical weakling
sleek temple
tisso could have some mind resistance?
because of how it can track and all very well
icy onyx
nah, probably not
because neuro messes with the fundamental workings of your sensory system
and even if it can smell you across the map, if the info can't be treated, his superior smelling won't mean shit
sleek temple
so id assume tissos are the easy strain of the game
icy onyx
however, if the tisso can camouflage itself and get an ambush before the Neuro can use an EMP or something
icy onyx
Well
magna are a weird bunch
I have a hard time getting all the infos because people are so confused about them
sleek temple
well u gotta know something about the isles dinos
they grow quickly
what im thinking is
icy onyx
Magna Tyrannus, when you compare it to a regular rex:
Is about 50-75% bigger
is more heavily built, but if Hypo had rpg plate armor, magna has leather to light mail armor
it's faster than regular rex and way longer (I can tell from PERSONNAL experience, since hypno wanted to eat me and Levi's allos, and Levi though Hypno's magna wasn't faster than a rex, which WAS way faster than rex back then)
it doesn't seem to need to eat that much often...
natural? probably not that natural
sleek temple
a reaction
for example
a magna looks normal
and
its not that fast compared to hypos
calling it the "perfect strain" or to deal with hypos cant be its purpose
its basically a bigger version of the dino
sleek temple
meaning it can be a natural reaction with contact of a strain
icy onyx
sooo, an "uncomplete" strain?
sleek temple
AE could of programmed if ur dino has max affinity
and u get in contact with a strain and survive
u should start becoming a magna
slowly ofc
icy onyx
like, it went in contact with it, and since it wasn't complete, the body reacted against and around it?
sleek temple
magnas would easily be the easist special boi to survive as
icy onyx
like an immunitary response, but bodily, morphologically and metabolistically wide?
icy onyx
...
hmmm
there's ONE detail that really makes me wonder about Magna rex
it's the form of it's snout
icy onyx
don't you ahve a better image?
icy onyx
lemme find some
sleek temple
my best encouter was with a hypo carno who i escaped as carno
ive seen magnas
but never took screenies
icy onyx
I'm still looking
I jsut need a pic with the different ontogenetic stages of Trex growth
sooo
carmine marsh
i have a clip of the magna rex if you want me to post it
it has the primal carnage skin though
carmine marsh
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/HilariousNeighborlyWaspJebaited?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
sleek temple
so
icy onyx
and since we know:
- How a rex's skull changes as it grows from thin and small to then having a stubbier snout and accentuated eye ridge
- That dinos probably kept growing after adulthood, at a incredibly slow pace and that this would be translate ingame with elders and that'd mean a rex would get a even bulkier snout as it grows
yet, when you look at a Hyper rex's head, the snout isn't that much different from the regular rex
I'm probably overthinking this, but since a rex growing keeps getting a bulkier snout and Magna's snout is super bulky, what if Magna was linked to age in some way
sleek temple
that could be true
icy onyx
I mean, from what we heard about Elder, it's that it keeps getting stronger as it ages
sleek temple
but then u must think of balancing cuz magnas themselfs are faster than their counter parts
icy onyx
and, it would make sense with your theory since, when it's old, and gets a stronger immunity system, it could react differently to strain exposure
sleek temple
it has to do with affinity
icy onyx
so you have to have affinity, and survive long enough with that affinity to earn magna
finding something that hidden is less difficult that surviving until being elder
sleek temple
well i wonder how affinity will work
like for rex what would it be
"kill para"
or like kill said rival in ur area
icy onyx
keep your territory
breed
survive
"don't be a dick"
I know it's kinda weird since affinity is about keeping your animal "realistically" satisfied
icy onyx
and "not being a dick" isn't in the rules of survivals
how do males breed
see how salmons do?
same but there's no squirting liquid everywhere, it's replaced by a button
From what I understand, the female (and makes, I think) build ONE nest, which also gives them a territory
the female can prepare eggs and the male then fertilizes the eggs
sleek temple
so would u need a mate to get to magna?
icy onyx
I dunno
sleek temple
im hoping they colourize footsteps
icy onyx
but it'd probably help your affinity
sleek temple
so u know if its a male or female of a dino of ur species
icy onyx
and if it doesn't give you affinity, you can still use the stat boost from breeding to further your goal to getting easier to Elder stage if it's a requirement
Well, the thing is
you can see the difference by their colors, since males have colors that females don't have
and since Dondi said getting cheated on could be a thing...
sleek temple
ik that but
scent
scent of a male and female
diffrent
u should be able to tell that of ur own species
icy onyx
wll, there are things I dunno how it'll work
When females build a nest and start gestating eggs, does the nest need someone (it was said anyone of your specie will work) next to it for eggs to gestate or would they keep growing as long as the female is alive?
Will the make fertilize eggs at the nest or only at the nest when the female is nearby?
icy onyx
Well, Carno, I think they don't want you to be able to tell the difference...
because Dondi said you'd be able to cheat
So you can play a male that's making sure everyoby knows who's dad
or you can play a male that uses the Diablo 2 color for Details, and uses it for the body part that colors the female's zones that a male woudl have as "Details"
ya know, so other males think he's a female, only for him to fertilize the alpha's eggs when he's not looking
and since he technically bred, he's getting all the stat bonuses
sleek temple
or ya know
kill the alpha then do it oof
unless the alphas a magna o3o
also
does that mean
males can do each other?
icy onyx
what? no
I meant that you can use the colors to not look like a male
and so other males won't see you as a threat
since you don't look like a dude
see what I mean?
icy onyx
well
let's say they're gonna ask question when there's not a name in "Matriarch" and the "Patriarch" one isn't theirs
icy onyx
well, we know it's for "breeding"
but we don't know if it'll require the kid to actualyl grow
but it wouldn't surprise me if it did
I mean, it's be abusable
icy onyx
have eggs, make them hatch, killt he baby, repeat for maximum stats
sleek temple
there will prob be more ways than breeding
icy onyx
making their name female
that kinda sounds like a stereotype
icy onyx
tbh
I'd be more afraid about my babies not being my own if the "mother" has a feminine name
than if it didn't
but that's more gameplay than theorie on the lore
and that isn't a discussion to continue here
but... magnas are weird
icy onyx
but their head looks a lot like what a old rex could look like
sleek temple
i can see magnas teaming with normals
one thing i find odd is
Hypo carno
was given the ability to group with carnos
icy onyx
well
they are the same specie
and it's not like other carno can run away from it if he decided to betray them
normal sand
Maybe because isnt as hungry than bigger hypos?
sleek temple
nah every hypo gets hungry
normal sand
Yeah but maybe carno is less hungry
sleek temple
by how much?
icy onyx
if you have a lot of carnos swarming a BIG prey
normal sand
I mean pretty hungier than normal rex but not hypo rex hungry level
icy onyx
and then the Hypo si the one taking the prey down with a final blow
ya know, using the others as the harrassers and to keep the prey's attention somewhere else
or to make them run in the dirrection the Hypo carno is
sleek temple
though
icy onyx
because you can see and hear it from far
sleek temple
magna would be much more benifacial from carnos point of view
it would look more like a carno
and u could mistake it for a normal one
icy onyx
yes it would
or an elder
magna and tisso are gonna be much more useful to their wild type than hypos
I mean
hypo utah can down by itself what a pack of utah couldn't even in their wildest dream
sleek temple
magna and tissos with normal carnos
i could see that
well
the H utah prob will get put into apex tier
it could fight a giga like cerato fights allo
well
win chance i mean
icy onyx
and the closest a Hutah would be is an allo
severe lark
^
icy onyx
well
severe lark
H-Utah is roughly current Allo size
icy onyx
an allo that runs fast, and at least as long as allo and can pounce
sleek temple
i think its carno height but allo width
icy onyx
I'm not saying "grab" like allo
I mean genuine jumping on you, pinning you down with all its weight while slicing you with it's 4 toe claws and biting you
we are talkign about something the size of an ALLO doing this
a H utah could down a Shant
by itself
sleek temple
well thats a herbivore to be fair
herbivores take down are diffrent to carnivore take down to be fair
1 utah can take a maia on
but 1 utah cant take a carno on
icy onyx
Utah's pounce will be applicable to everything
sleek temple
be a bit to op though
sleek temple
1 utah bringing down anything because it can latch onto u
icy onyx
when it's pouncing, it can't change direction
and as I said
it's depending on the angle
and how big you are
Dryo?
man you are fucked
that's why you need burrows
icy onyx
nah that's because i's not tuned yet
if the hitbox connects, it'll probably play a different animation
icy onyx
...
man
I've seen a Hcarno fall from a ledge/waterfall
it litterally doesn't care about the ground level
and that's Hcarno
sleek temple
well
icy onyx
not H utah
sleek temple
H carno isnt balanced perfectly eyt
remember it has weight of 20k
same stats as H giga
only faster
no swim animation
or shading
sleek temple
id assume
its only given that
so rexes dont bone break it and kill it
because if fthey gave it like what 10k
rex could have a chance to bone break it
icy onyx
I'm curious how the new Hrex mouth's gonna look
sleek temple
im curious on how strains + magna (dont call it a strain cuz it basically has no strain to it)
will change the gamemode up
sure sandbox and deathmatch be funny
but survival will be mystery
icy onyx
well
it'll make big "nope" zones
where nobody goes
or a line of skeleton int eh hypo's wake
sleek temple
there will prob be magna rexes packing up
icy onyx
and also gang of cerato following at a safe distance
icy onyx
because cerato will be able to eat bones
sleek temple
ah yea
true
once carno gets velocity dmg
packing up to kill big things will be more common as carno
icy onyx
yeah
sleek temple
btw
what happens if a utah latches onto a sucho and sucho goes in water
actually
for any dino that goes in water
sleek temple
even then
if ur bodie dies in water
and if its big like a shant
utahs cant pull it
and usually bodies sink
sleek temple
i think going in water should make the utah get off u
because i doubt they could be kepted latched like that in water
icy onyx
It's not really theory at this point
sleek temple
yea
sleek temple
nope
last nebula
Uh, don't see how all of this is related to game lore.
That'd be better off for #401464048610312195
No worries.
icy onyx
I have a theory about THE MATRIARCH. What if it is the thing under Titan, if you read The Matriarch's user inquiry witch basically says that i grows bigger than a Pue as it adapted to its surroundings in the wild. Now judging from this i think that it matches the giant rips at the bottom of Titan.
regal locust
"User Inquiry: The Matriarch
Coinciding with objective parameters to complete an EIP.
I have developed a completely adaptable organism within Tartarus.
Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable
areas of Tartarus for study.
It is not correct to call it a dinosaur, but I have not given it a name."
It apparently adapts, but does not say specifically it grows to that size.
vague glen
Important to figure out what 'constantly adapts' actually means, I think. I assume it's not as simple as it just being able to eat everything.
digital vale
I think it means "faster evolution" of the creature. For example, if the creature finds itself in very cold environment, it can adapt itself by evolving thicker skin, growing fur, etc. - Matriarch could be perfect creature with this feature, 'cause it could adapt on every kind of danger or possibly, it could regenerate.
Oh, I was just looking throught Tapwings' Deviantart and under the picture of Tyrannosauroidea Matriarch was written that they have "impressive yet worrisome regeneration", and if I understand well, the creature could grow itself a new arm after loosing one. Not sure if it's canon tho, but I think that's what I originally thought ↑
echo gazelle
This is all I got from this particular Light Morse. The others seem to be gibberish. Will try to see if it says anything else.
Scanning for asset location
Mesozoic Triassic Jurassic Cretaceous Pachycephalosaurus Suchomimus Spinosaurus Stegosaurus
carmine marsh
🤔
"Pachycephalosaurus Suchomimus Spinosaurus Stegosaurus"
pachy and sucho were added in the same patch
this must mean spino and stego are being added in the same patch as well
feral pond
This is more inline with #401464048610312195
feral pond
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devout scroll
This could have been discussed before, but what if things for Apollo Engineering on the island haven't gone as awry as thought, as in what if they are still somewhat in control of what is happening? My idea stems from the notion that the Replicator is programmed to modify creatures (or profiles) on the islands based on their life experiences through each of their iterations. The goal of the machine seems to be to create lifeforms that are best adapted to dominate their environments and overcome obstacles they faced in past iterations (Magna's possibly being the end result?). If the purpose of this is to provide Apollo Engineering with advanced biological weapons, then the creatures would need to be adept at surviving in an environment where conflict with humans armed with modern weapons would be inevitable. So, point is, what if the Mercenaries are sent to the island on the pretence of containing an outbreak or an awry experiment, but are really there to test the dinosaurs and the Replicator, so that through trial and error it creates creatures adapted to combat environments?
quick knot
That’s a cool theory
dusk axle
Pretty great theory, good base on the fact tht Ddi said nothing happens by accident, everything is planmed thing, but imo i still more leanning to the fact that even mercs are cloned or so, and that they take part in the replicators circle
vague glen
The mercs aren't necessarily 'perfectly' replicated. They might get their memories wiped to prevent them from trying to rebel and mess up the experiments. Alternatively, they might have their full memories, but they need to accomplish a few objectives like 'kill X amount of Y dinosaur' in exchange for the promise of freedom. Each replication they get better at killing and surviving the dinosaurs, and the dinosaurs do the same in turn.
It's not necessarily just the dinosaurs being molded into perfect killing machines, but it could be the humans as well. Especially considering what little we know of the cannibals, being mutated. The survivors and tribals are still a bit up in the air however.
My personal theory is that all of the humans are being made to be capable of thriving in this hyper deadly environment, with stages of 'crutches'. The mercenaries have the biggest crutch for this experiment, with weapons being freely available. The survivors are next, with modern knowledge about stuff like medicine that are only available through centuries of scientific discovery.
The tribals though, with the knowledge of their game mechanic of taming dinosaurs, they may be something else entirely. Rather than being made to simply thrive in this environment, they're an experiment in trying to make humans that can dominate it, control it through force. They may also be an experiment to see how an unmodified human population growing in this environment compares to a mutated population (the Cannibals). Which performs better, which is more easily controlled, etcetera.
foggy adder
This is really cool to think about y’all
mighty abyss
The tribals are beefy boys though, and eat each other
I think they're modified in some way
wicked helm
so.. will tribal people be able to tame dinosaurs or nahw?
i mean, it would be cool if you could ride on the back of a trike for example
civic slate
there is talk that they should for ais but obviously not players. But right now, the only ais worth the tame time would be diablos
wicked helm
don't you mean ava's?
civic slate
No the AI's computer dinos
mighty abyss
Avaceratops is the ai ceratopsian, diablocerarops is the player-controlled one
wicked helm
so to put it straight, he meant that the first tameable players could be diablo's?
regal locust
Alright, tameable dinosaurs will be a thing. It's not limited to any dinosaur, but it's a very difficult process that requires a mutual benefit on both parts.
As you don't limit what your.. "tamed".. dinosaur can do aside from POSSIBLY being damaged upon not obeying movement commands.
Not much has been recently said about dinosaur taming, it's all old news.
Think of it as player enslavement, with massive quotations.
Not sure what sortof crack Venom is on, but,
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Nor does this fit into #isle-lore-theories
icy onyx
Something I spotted on a dev stream.. could be potential evidence to suggest the magna is in fact the primal carnage Rex
regal locust
You're pointing out the "Primal Rex" right?
The idea of the magna rex being atleast related to the PC rex has been explored. Although jokingly in.. most cases.
For instance.
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/HilariousNeighborlyWaspJebaited?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time
But most likely it's just a nod to PC instead of it directly being connected.
After all, references in video games exist.
hearty mulch
@regal locust it ain't much of a joke. the lore we got points to it
vague glen
@mighty abyss Actually, it seems like the Cannibals and Tribals are distinctly separate, with the cannibals (this is their old name, not sure what they're called now) being the ones big on eating each other and humans. As far as we know, the tribals are normal humans, but obviously not from modern times like the mercs and survivors are.
For reference, here is some really good fan art of the cannibals. While normally I'd say it's just fan art and not to be taken too closely, it was pinned in suggestions, which means the devs might use an aesthetic along these lines.
fallow maple
Tribals aren’t normal humans
But they are relatively human looking
But are abominations
mighty abyss
I know about that
maiden drift
Do the Survivors even exist as a faction anymore?
The ingame menu only holds Mercenaries and Tribals.
mighty abyss
I'm just saying it's more than likely that the tribals will have cannibalistic traits to them, while the mutant things are their own branch
The tribals are ugly, beefy people. They don't look like that would normally happen with a regular evolution, so they must be modified also to some capacity
maiden drift
I think it's less of a branch, and more of a seed and a tree.
Tribals are horrible, neanderthal trog-men, possibly clones, that like to eat dinosaurs and the odd bit of manflesh. What we've been calling 'cannibals' are what happens when the cocktail of crazy hormones, pituitary disorder, combat drug grade adrenaline and good old fashioned prion disease gone wild turns them into the intended GMO war fighting product. Namely, a twelve foot tall monster man from The Descent. It's a/the strain equivalent for tribals.
leaden nexus
@vague glen pretty sure Dondi bought that design off the artist
maiden drift
Hot theory. The Mayan/Apocalypto-looking people that have served as one of the Human placeholders/showcase models are the (possibly defunct) Survivors faction, consisting of either indigines, stranded personnel that have gone native without becoming degenerated trog clone people, or both.
river radish
just had a thought (i know and no i didnt hurt myself) concerning the huge F***ing body at the bottom of Titan lake: was the dam was built to hide the body, or was the dam built to contain that which had later died?
hearty mulch
keep in mind the big eyeless thing that used to be called a cannibal is likely a "2nd gen" neurotenic strain of the orc-trog cannibal that we used to and continue to call tribals
i only say likely because the cannibals seem to worship Echidna, and Echidna sees them as kids, and the neurotenic strain seems to replicate itself in other creatures, with echidna being a source
AE-AES-1073
TYPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTES). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
basically seems that Echidna did some spooky shit so they started to slow their roll on neurotenic testing
that or echidna is a loose replication of something else that emerges whenever a proper human begins to have the type-N strain replicate inside them
sorta like a memory that manifests itself whenever it spreads to a proper frame
^ last 2 sentences are just a guess in case Echidna is not just one particular individual rather than an incarnation of something tied to the neurotenic material
umbral lantern
poor Dondi
coral nacelle
Okay here’s a crazy theory
@river radish said that the dam was built for contain something or hide the body
But what if
The body was dumped there intentionally
See how the dinos can mutate after being hatched somewhat naturally
It potentially implies that they would have at least a set of completed and functioning genes
And maybe more strings of dna that would stay dormant until it is triggered
That string of dna can be implanted to begin with and been triggered
Or
It would be injected through virus
During their growth naturally
So they would eventually turn into different types of strains at some point
So
My theory is
The huge skeleton contains that virus or the trigger for different strains of dna
And it is put in the titan for a reason
And when u look at the water connected to titian
You will realise that the titans is the source of most water sources which ultimately leads to the hypo pen
sleek temple
[Manifest]
version=2
X {
"group": "checkpoint",
"meta": "2411296",
"time1": 210045,
"time2": 210045
}
slow delta
Whats that
Also i think ive missed a couple of new info pieces posted here. Ill look it over and add it to the docs asap
sleek temple
i think these strains are held in pits at the north east mountains
they are a natural barrier as nothing can climb out of them so it would make sense if they were put here
theres also now a theory that i think titan lake is man made lake
meaning every lake connected to it from that river is also man made
i thank duckitdaily for helpn me out ofc
neon helm
I'm pretty sure the giant body at the bottom of the lake was semi-aquatic, Titan lake is the only lakes it can properly keep itself partally underwater and had enough water to sustain its massive thirst. The thing is still pretty massive compared to the lake. All the other lakes are considered shallow puddles to it. And since it died underwater, it was either was standing/sitting in the lake, or it fell onto it's side into the water.
neon helm
This thing must've been a fish eater, it could eat the dinosaurs on the island, but it probably had to eat a high amount of large apex herbivores/carnivores on the norm, also large sauropods as well. Considering it's size, it would've wiped all large dinosaurs to extinction. Why I think it eats fish is because it has a massive sail on it's back. It could've used it to herd fish just like a sailfish, possibly eating wales as well. I don't think this thing would've been a herbivore. If it was, there would be no trees or vegetation anywhere.
dire rivet
Mind if I ask,
But what giant body?
Im new to this so idk what you guys are talking about
icy onyx
its a giant skeloton under titian lake
echo gazelle
Primal Carnage confirmed
We're in the end game now boys. Watch until the end.
Video from Main Menu > Extras > Credits
sleek temple
oh boi
cinder hound
I love how people only realise this only when it is in the credits, yet none of the other countless connections don't mean anything apparently.
echo gazelle
I knew about the connections before. It was also denied before so everyone got confused. Everyone knew they connected somehow but there was no confirmation.
I still have some of the videos from the VC when it was denied. So. Idk what to tell you.
sage kelp
What happened with the whole console login thing? I remember the tweets that one guy figured out the password and got in, but did anything come from it?
echo gazelle
check the pinned messages Camy
I could gladly remove the video if absolutely everyone knows. But the entire community doesn't. This community is supposed to work together to figure out the lore. But I posted it in here for others to see.
wooden lily
@coral nacelle Never considered the titan in the dam being an intentional placement
the speculation that the dam could be there to hide it up is a really good thought
coral nacelle
thanks
but i wasnt suggesting it was there to hide
i thought it was intertionally put it there
and realising some sort of trigger to infect the entire population of the isle
so it would trigger they hidden dna
and turn into hypo or whatever @wooden lily
wooden lily
@coral nacelle I think the hypos are man-made experiments
coral nacelle
yes they are
but not necessary from hatchling
cus later on from what i can tell
we can evo into hypos when picking normal ones
so i would say the process of creating a hypo would be a mutation after hatching the dino
and to do that they must inject the strain when they are growing
only that could explain why there are normal adults and hypo adults
wooden lily
well we're gonna get the answer soon enough once the devs finally decide how we get hypos
wooden lily
considering Hypo Spino
I dont think you need to even pick the dino beforehand
I have a strange feeling that you're going to sacrifice your maximum affinity dino or something
and then the Dino select screen appears and then you can choose a hypo of choice
idunno
coral nacelle
mmmmm
icy onyx
I'd assume that you have to be that dino, Like a Rex to be a Hyper Rex.
Cause if all you need to be a dino to get a hypo, It'd be really easy.
wooden lily
I know it'd be too easy
so I think it wont count if you play something fast growing
but
just saying, Hypo Spino
has an IK rig, was in dev streams recently
and Survival Spino isn't a thing
so...
leaden nexus
It will be a thing though
Pretty sure Jake is either working on, finished working on, or will work on the spino models
eternal tide
@echo gazelle Good eye
I would consider that a certain confirmation of Primal and Isle being the same universe (although it was pretty strongly implied before now as well)
wicked helm
What if Theres a small chance, like a really small chance to be nested as a hypo???🤔🤔🤔
north oyster
Haha. Like a shiny pokemon? 1 in a billion chance.
Could you even imagine the streaming reactions of people who spawned as a hypo and then got rekt immediately
wicked helm
It is a theorie, because it could eb possible that you have a tienie Tiny chance to get nested as a hypo.
sleek temple
its about the lore
sleek temple
so
u probably wonder about the connection of PC and the isle
well i wont explain it but imma tell u why phoenix corp has easier containment than AE
it is because of stamina
the dinos that are made in pc/pc:e all have very bad stamina compared to the isles dinos meaning containment is alot easier
which most likely means AE could of also done this but decided not to because containment was not the top prioity
which makes you wonder why they where "rivals" if both had different objectives
containment/experimentation : testing/experimentation
by testing i mean the "dinosaurs" capabilitys
i also do think that the magna rex IS the pc rex but modified to be more capable in surviving
ofc they may of became "rivals" because they kepted trying to steal data off each other
for all we know the magna rex could of been the original and pheonix corp stole it and gave it some stamina degrades
now there is something else im thinking about any of the "dilo strains lore"
if any of them can spit
then they wont be fully made from just the normal dilos dna
as it isnt able to spit
but guess who can spit
primal carnages dilo can
AE probably did steal this and added it into a dilo strains dna to give it the spitting power
and
depending on the spit
it could be the cryolophosaurus spit added in instead with the isles dilo as the main factor for mutation
sleek temple
yea
if neuro comes itd be blinding
if tissos still a strain
probably crrosive for it
and then theres the geographic location of the v3 map itself
it doenst make sense at all
in kenya
mount watever is on the equator
and it has SNOW at the top
but the peaks on this map dont have snow at all
meaning the world here isnt right
mighty abyss
Phoenix did have controlled weather experiments and atriums
Maybe the island is purposefully being kept warm by outside forces to more accurately similar the Palaeozoic era
slow delta
One of the pce maps had different seasons but im not sure if it counted as controlled weather
high heath
I feel like Humans will have something like a Geiger Counter for places that cause strains
rustic knoll
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sage wedge
It’s just light
hearty mulch
If you're wondering that they're the same door, they deffo aren't
The other side of the first door.
mighty abyss
though where is the light coming from in the first image
edgy pike
sharp osprey
@edgy pike Lol "You good my dude?"
neon helm
At the menu screen, the orange light is a MORSE code which one of the codes say: "CHK Aurora at 50% STAT". And one of the transmissions say "Look to the sky at the right time. The path to gateway has been there all along." ...Maybe the pathway to the Gateway is when an Aurora is half way done?
neon helm
Alright now, The signal at dockyard...
The radio tower MORSE says something about "AWAITING SIGNAL FROM DOCKYARD" Which is another MORSE code im assuming.
Ok, and the Death Screen Filter says something about a "signal source" which says: "Signal source locked @192.168.1.1" which im presuming that its an IP to a server...
vague glen
Could be coordinates.
If you find a way up to the radio tower as well, it may have a view of something in the docks?
sleek temple
there is 2 docks
which one is it?
problem is
is that a height, width or length co-ord
nvm
that cant be a co-ord
192.168.1.1
its an ip address
no offical server has that ip
cinder hound
Unless I am mistaken, but that ip address is usually associated with a server administrator
and I don't mean like a game server administrator, I mean a network administrator.
sleek temple
ur probably right
because ive checked every v3 server
only 2 have 192 for their starting but thats it
btw that means the aurora is fake
and is manually produced
icy onyx
oof, this one confuses me. But I guess this is proof that humans have been on the island or were supposed to be there. Or maybe it was made so the dinosaurs live in a better environment ? Here is also some sort of radio tower thingy btw
icy onyx
We have known this ever since the game was released
silent lily
@icy onyx what r u smoking?
sleek temple
mabye he is new to the game @silent lily
dusk axle
intresting thing is how tough the doors look on the top pictures, the AE door, even though small looks to be made from reinforced steel of some sort
maybe thats why the only creature to maybe be able to open it are either cannis, or the HUtah
icy onyx
Oof I'm new to the game, sorry ,_,
rain crystal
192.168 .1.1 is a local IP address, usually the gateway- the IP to get out of the network to other networks. that's pretty standard, so nothing all that useful
pretty much everyone has a local 192.168.whatever IP address given by their router, but it's not used for connecting to, say, websites or other servers. it's basically a message saying "hey you've locked on to the gateway." it's nothing interesting or nonstandard in networks
(fun fact: if you go to your command prompt and type IPconfig, you can see your own computer's IP address, and your gateway's IP. odds are it'll be 192.168.0.1 for a connection to your modem's wifi, or .1.1 if your connection's to a router, but the last 2 octets may vary. the 192.168 will not usually)
unkempt frigate
outer dagger
they basically said that ip address is nothing special
neon helm
Who knows, it might be handy in the future
amber nebula
Have their been any indications of where the isle is located on earth?
icy onyx
i like the mystery in this game
copper berry
As of yet from what I can find:
Hyperendocrine= Hyper+Endocrine
Neurotenic=Neuro+Neotenic
Tissoplastic=???
Plastic as in something artificial, easily adaptable/moldable
terse solar
tissue?
radiant tiger
Hmmmm
maiden drift
That's not bad, actually.
tiny carbon
So just a thought about that message above with the signal locked at 192.168.1.1, that's usually the default IP for your Router. If you ever need to access your router settings or something like that, being connected to the router and typing that into your address bar will normally pull up your router settings where you can set things like passwords and all other hubba. Or, at least it is for my router.
Now how does this connect, well a router is also known as a gateway.
Back to my now older theory that Gateway is a facility because of how this tweet is worded including all of the console interactions where gateway was asked about (and was confirmed to be the place where EIP's or something like that are handled)
All that the signal locked at 192.168.1.1 could mean that the signal (to produce another dino because yours has just died), is coming from Gateway.
maiden drift
makes more sense than the lake in Denmark for it just to be 'tissue' garbled up into a fake language root
tiny carbon
Tissoplastic used to supposedly have the ability to mildly camoflauge if I'm not mistaken so it meaning something to do with tissues has been accepted for awhile
copper berry
That does make sense
vague glen
Taking the name literally, I'd say the tissue is plastic, smooth, less friction. Would add up considering they're meant to be incredibly speedy.
sleek temple
true
radiant tiger
Or have many abilities like we have many uses for plastic
magic cairn
I was checking out the picture with the recode announcement trying to find some patterns. I think the yellow marked corners might be bubbles, the red circled area seems to be a face of a Spinosaurus(?), and the blue marked areas could be maps of current position. The map in the top left would be alluding to how far below sea level the picture was taken (I haven't a clue how to read it, if its even a map). The globe in the bottom left is centered in the north Pacific ocean off of the southern tip of a peninsula, that doesn't appear on a globe traditionally, pointing south of modern day Mexico.
sleek temple
so
marine animals
thats why its blu
cuz its underwater
which may elude to the islands location
is looks to be beneath mexxico
radiant tiger
Im not seeing a spino tho
magic cairn
yeah idk after i thought i saw eyes i couldn't unsee, was hoping someone had a better idea
sleek temple
i can see what u think are eyes
magic cairn
yeah whats even worse is that i thought i saw something of a mouth with them too
sleek temple
i have no clue what that is
magic cairn
so these are the lines i'm seeing when i say i see a mouth, idk if its just nonsense though
radiant tiger
I can see what you mean
but maybe
its an aquatics eyes
peering out from the blue depths
I feel like that would fit the theme lol
sleek temple
Jason " A Megalodon"
digital vale
Tried to make a "sketch" of it, but I think it's almost impossible to see what creature it is, especially because the filter above the picture makes it hard to define what is the dino and what is the static. Looks to me the head is more massive than Spino's, but as I said it's hard to tell.
digital vale
Also alternate ver., I just checked the original picture again and the head might be even bigger. It looks to me kinda Tyrannosaur-like
sleek temple
dont the eyes shine bright ingame
radiant tiger
Is it just me or do these vines look placed in a very specific way
like some sort of symbol
sleek temple
it looks like a wave the one on the right
sage wedge
It’s just vines I doubt it’s anything special
sleek temple
it was intact before the update though
radiant tiger
ah
sleek temple
it doesnt make any sense
sleek temple
ive check the entire map for clues
nothing
even went throguh all the mountains
ofc this intrests me alot
it suggests titan lake is manmade lake
because people obv lived here
tribals
radiant tiger
so you think they just poured a ton of water into where the tribals lived?
radiant tiger
Hmm
sleek temple
and made that masssive river system
radiant tiger
There is also the giant bone thingy
muted hill
perhaps the area of the lake was acanyon where that giant monster died and so AE(?) filled it with water from somewhere to hide the creature from public eyes?
radiant tiger
Perhaps the tribals worshiped it as a god or something but wouldnt let the mercs there so they flooded the place
sleek temple
that may be right to be fair
ofc
when was it made
if u take that hole river system out
muted hill
and the tribal structures idk coincidence or just PH
sleek temple
this monster wouldnt have enough water
titan is the only good water source
and as its man-made
it suggests the timeline of -dam built - water made to get rid of tribals - monster dieing in said lake
radiant tiger
The monster could have been aquatic but ended up starving itself
Do you guys have a close up of the bones>
radiant tiger
Ah
sleek temple
well they may of changed the concept art
radiant tiger
True
sleek temple
heres the story i think
they build colsussus - it escapes - it dies - they move its bones into that lake
radiant tiger
I dont get why they wouldnt just put it into one of the canyons and put dams on the other side
muted hill
i mean if they have the power to create a living beast of that size surely they would have something to "deal" with it or its remains
radiant tiger
They didnt want something to get out of that river system
muted hill
assuming the creature is 100% aquatic if not it could just walk out
sleek temple
its water source leads into that river
so something that they dun want escaping to the ocean?
radiant tiger
Even if it wasnt 100% aquatic it would still probably be limited to that water source due to the difficulty of the terrain around it
and it may not be a creature necessarily
sleek temple
mabye a mosa
radiant tiger
Rather an infestation or disease
muted hill
wouldnt that be kept at sea?
sleek temple
well
muted hill
remember the map isnt finsihed
sleek temple
the archepeligo if it was lifted up
like
brought up more
it would block off all sea entry
it nearly does
radiant tiger
Maybe another dam
muted hill
i think there something in one of the old loading screen lore hints that mentions a barricade in/around the bay
lemme see if i can find it
muted hill
it could be a far shot to assume that may link in to what we have said but any ones guess is as good as another
type M=magna
sleek temple
but what aquatic creature gets a type-m
ik what type m is
but
u know
in the big docks
some of the shipping areas are locked
and im asssuming bay lock is about the archipeligo?
muted hill
i reckon the bay area is on the west side where those giant stone pillars are
muted hill
hold theres a clip from an old dev stream i wanna show u
sleek temple
ok
muted hill
it showed a map with locations for human structures
it shows the v3 before the current one
sleek temple
the old v3
muted hill
there looks to be an aquatic facilicty in the bay
and the docks are where that giant canyon was when the giant skeleton was on land
muted hill
is where the lake is now
muted hill
suggesting they kept the beasts or just "normal" dinosaurs in that area
sleek temple
what about type m speciamn aquatic boi
muted hill
IF any of that stuff on that layout is planned looks asif it was a tourist attraction
muted hill
my guess for a type M aquatic is a mosa a megalodon but not enough atm to hazard a good enough guess
sleek temple
well
muted hill
but ye i reckon the bay locke mentioned in the snip i sent will be around the east side of the map where those rocks lead out
and that bay is easily large enough for aquatics
muted hill
probably no tourist type boats but maybe ones that where made with protection in mind
muted hill
if AE cooked up some nightmarish beasts prob have ways to protect themeselves from their creations
sleek temple
ik its prob not about any lore but
these vehciles look like they are used for tourism
muted hill
i mean thats probably a PH model but considering what we can guess i wouldnt say that too far off
sleek temple
yea
muted hill
roads have been shown in some clips