isle-lore-theories

[rustic urchin]

lol

Poor guy definitely got is account hacked

[cold snow]

Hello can someone here summarize me where we are on the theories of the lore ? Is there an "official" lore, or some kind of beginning ?? I want to know everything !

[nimble fractal]

How do we tell him

[lethal moat]

This is the best we’ve got for now https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[cold snow]

Thanks i'm reeding it and if a have something, i'll come back !

[lethal moat]

Sounds good

[cold snow]

When was the last update of this document ?

[lethal moat]

Whenever we last got significant new information, we actively update it as we get new stuff

[cold snow]

Also i'm just starting to read it, but is it explained how those theories were made ? Like with which informations or clue etc

[fast forge]

Much of it comes from things the lead dev has talked about in this discord

[lethal moat]

All the stuff in the document is as accurate as we know, mostly from dev statements in discord or on stream

[cold snow]

Oh okkkk i thought it was thanks to like hidden appolo websites, or pictures in the buildings and everything

[lethal moat]

Nah, more arg stuff would be awesome though

[cold snow]

So the most common source are the devs

[lethal moat]

For now, yeah

[cold snow]

Ok i've read everything, now i'm looking at the youtube videos from the isle channel, this is awesome i'm in a big fog full of mysteries, like what is actually happening on the isle ??!!

[lethal moat]

Yes

[rustic urchin]

There’s a lot to sift through, and a lot that you have to toss out because a lot of old lore is no longer canon

It’s complicated

[lethal moat]

Yeah, knowing the difference between legacy and Evrima is important, and trying to decide what remains canon from legacy is difficult at times

[rustic urchin]

My interpretation of isle lore atp is now a result of divine wisdom and intervention telling me what to believe and what not to believe

[lethal moat]

If you aren’t using tarrot cards to determine how to interpret lore, you’re doing it wrong

[rustic urchin]

God gives me lore interpretations in my dreams

He tells me… he tells me that magnaraptor will be canon again in 2028

[lethal moat]

The tarrot disagrees

[rustic urchin]

Magnaraptor was an undeserving collateral of the primal carnage wipe

That thing is NOT novaraptor

My sweet prince we will give you justice

[lethal moat]

I need to do a legacy deep dive again

[rustic urchin]

If forgot rj included a species name for it

Not what I expected

I guess that either ties into the group nature of raptors, or what Dondi was saying about magnaraptor being intended to be a more common sight than strains, as a mascot that players actually see. So instead of super exclusive it’s “for the people”?

Hmmm

I know Dondi said outright what solus referred to #isle-lore-theories message but this is a weird coincidence

[fast forge]

Vulgis can also mean a crowd or mob, so I'd wager that the specific epithet probably refers to the gregarious behavior of raptors

[rustic urchin]

Probably

Although now that I think about it, that adds up with a more accessible animal

Can’t really get a pack of friends to get hypers together

[lethal moat]

My research study teacher pointed something out that might be worth looking into, some animal researchers (namely Jane Goodall) will name their animals, like they do in the isle, so it may be worthwhile to use that as a frame of reference for how AE scientists look at their animals

[rustic urchin]

It reminds me especially of how scientists track sharks and stuff

Usually giving them a formal coded designation and then a fun nickname

[lethal moat]

Exactly

I need to do more research on animal researchers

[fast forge]

Prior to Goodall, it was considered extremely unprofessional to name your subjects of study. Scientists are taught to attempt to remain objective, and ascribing human traits and emotions to an animal was seen as a dereliction of that duty.

Goodall changed all that by giving names to her chimps, interacting with them directly (instead of being an impartial observer), and ascribing human emotion to their behavior. At first she was harshly criticized, but the obvious value of her work in the field of primatology changed much of the "objective view" of old science

[civic pollen]

ben

[acoustic osprey]

Hmm

it does makes me curious, in times like that/this, in how much extra thought may have been put behind stuff like that

like trying to be as realistic to the real world events (yet still its own thing) as possible) — and i can imagine the amount of research needing to obey to such, painful. And you need to look at the right places

[acoustic osprey]

dragon dreams are dangerous

[lethal moat]

I wonder if animals being reborn makes naming them easier since you know they'll be back

[fast forge]

Well by the 80's/90's the stigma against naming subjects was already starting to fade

The old orthodox opinion was more prevalent in the 50's/60's when Goodall started

[acoustic osprey]

for me, it seems like these names are relatively stuck to whatever current animal they are

unless they get stuck with a name (like SALT)
and then forever continue using such name

assuming EIPs in this aspect, i suppose

removing EIPs from Dino SYNTHs
probably doesn't matter

[ornate comet]

dakota as well

if i recall

[ornate comet]

greetings

[acoustic osprey]

More so, what i mean, with SYNTHS (or just dinos in general) that may or are known to have gotten their name because of what they were like in that life

Albeit
Bringing up Dakota is interesting

just because Dakota, from what we can tell, is not a SYNTH (hence its full name tag)

being such

OMNI.12-051.788.004

same with others, like DUKE

TRIKE.032-037.002

which both do not include the Synth tag on their IDs, but still contain actual names / nicknames

which is a bit interesting

however, i suppose because DUKE is an interesting fella

for a non-synth
continues ATLAS' mutation legacy (without interjection of AE)

[lethal moat]

I think Dakota is a synth, since the nametag is referring to the whole pack of raptors, rather than an individual

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose DAKOTA might be something similar?

[acoustic osprey]

is it though?

[lethal moat]

Raptors 12-51 and trikes 32-37

[acoustic osprey]

this seems to be DAKOTA's name tag, in my opinion

[acoustic osprey]

why for Duke though?
seeing as that only comes from DUKE being referred to as individually

('that' being Dukes full ID, is what imean)

[lethal moat]

It’s talking about dakota’s tribe though, not Dakota specifically

[lethal moat]

You’ll have to show me a screenshot, I don’t have the video in front of me at the moment

[acoustic osprey]

I get what you’re saying and it was definitely something I was thinking when the INTRUDER video was first out on Don's stream (before we got the Trike tcam)
but grammatically, it is structured as “OMNI.12-051.788.004 [DAKOTA]’s tribe.”

The possessive is attached to Dakota, not the tribe as an entity with that ID.
Which should mean it’s referencing the tribe belonging to the subject designated OMNI.12-051.788.004 (thus Dakota), rather than saying the tribe itself has that ID.
If the tribe had the ID, it would probably be formatted differently.

[lethal moat]

He put himself between the group, though duke is mentioned specifically since they’re a focus later on, I think the dash represents a multitude, as that makes more sense than rewriting the existing system that we’ve already seen and somewhat know

[acoustic osprey]

i am pretty sure that is not the case

the 032-037 seems to infer parental lineage (seeing as Duke ... whose main ID number would be 002, like how Augustus is 174)

This being because Don talked about wild borns containing designations based on parents (i can find the quote, thankfully, if need be. From the same convo as when we learnt what "SYNTH"s are, a bit of convo of Shirley stuff i believe.)

but also because 032 (in 032-037) is also ATLAS' ID number
Either it is a coincidence, which definitely could be the case, or that 032 in 032-037 is referring to ATLAS (Duke's father)
As we also had a Trike (TAZ) which had 037-034 - which would mean Taz is Duke's half sibling. If it being a parental tag is correct (sharing the same mother)

[lethal moat]

That very well could make sense

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

but i also ignore a discrepancy

that being OMNI.12-051.788.004 for Dakota

which is a slightly different formatting to how Duke's is

which is
TRIKE.032-037.002

which is missing the location tag
(the 12)

and the 12 has a dash with 051
which is painful

if this video was made ages before, then I'd excuse it
but this was only made earlier in 2025 (after the start of the timeline doc being made in Jan 2025)

Grammatically i don't think it makes sense for it to be saying "Tribe name [dakota]'s tribe" (if we translate the ID into a more literal sense of the ID)

it just feels off
but, it is still painfully painful with the discrepancy

[cold snow]

i'm so lost

[knotty locust]

theyre talking about a raptor pack and a rex in a trail camera video, whether both are "people" or animals

[knotty locust]

LMAO

[cold snow]

i've been reading again and again the google docs, watching videos about the lore and i'm so lost, i don't understand how to connect the dots, i'm sure there are things about yt channel the isle that we missed i'm turning insane, looking 20mins videos frame per frame, i feel dumb

[knotty locust]

frankly, a lot of it stems from dondi greedily hoarding all his lore to himself

as time progresses and more lore is steadily revealed, the dots will connect better and easier

i NEED the lore PLEASE dondi

i need a crumb of eyeless lore

[merry zodiac]

We are withering from the lack of lore please

https://tenor.com/view/die-dying-rose-shrivel-the-birch-show-crypt-tv-gif-16001790

[acoustic osprey]

Not a rex!!

[knotty locust]

duke?

to be fair i only glanced the start of the discussion and the end

[obsidian pawn]

The Isle's facilities are owned and operated by Yugoslavia

Its true...

[acoustic osprey]

Duke be the child of Atlas! Trikes

Yay

[knotty locust]

oh i was thinking about baron

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anjin-gif-14081357704132594281

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah!!!

[rustic urchin]

I don’t remember hearing about synths

Are those just dinosaurs ae dropped in rather than nested in ones

[formal mural]

Bros in his shogun phase

[river marsh]

There are both nested and synth dinos. Technically all players start as synths i think because those will have tracking chips. Nested dinos wont have chips and thus cant be detected by humans

Synths, per lore, are the experimental ones that had something changed/tweaked and are being observed. Augustus climbing is one example. Shirley and Dean(?) Are also examples with Shirley being unnaturally strong and Dean being crippled but unusually smart based off the top of my head

[lethal moat]

Synths are made by the replicator, wether or not they have mutations probably varies

[river marsh]

Aha yes!

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
basically every SYNTH is due to being a lot more unique

Augustus' video title being a very good description for it

emergent anomalous [mutation]

Doesn't mean a SYNTH will experience an emergent anomalous mutation
but... it is way more likely to see a SYNTH have a new and diverging mutation (whether it be social, behavioural and/or physical) then a natural born

(not like natural borns can't have these mutations ... it is, from what we've seen in-lore, shown that basically SYNTHS get mutation and natural born is made to test if mutation stays ||whether on purpose or not||)

the on purpose or not being

Augustus was identified and was made sure to have both SYNTH/replicated (using his 'template') and natural born off-spring to see if they contains his behavioural mutation to climb

vs

ATLAS was injected as a larger trike group
Atlas had a social-leaning behavioural mutation
Atlas had a baby (Duke) —> and without any known human intervention or attention (at first, presumed that is), Duke also had this mutation

[lethal moat]

Also, could you show me the screenshot of Don saying that natural born dinos have designations on your parents? I'm starting to lean a lot more towards what you're thinking, but I want to see if there's anything else related to what he said that we could expand off of

[acoustic osprey]

sure thing! quite fair, quite so

#isle-lore-theories message
from this convo

(full 'paragraphed idea' in the screenshot as well)

[lethal moat]

This seems relevant to the covnersation at hand lol

[iron anchor]

📡

[river marsh]

Loooll yeah true

Which like- i dont think any of our spawned in dinos are natural

But theres also no confirmation they are synths

Ooooo i wonder if the tutorial will answer that for us

Either have us be delivered in a crate to the island/start from a lab or emerge from a nest

[acoustic osprey]

probably, yeah

maybe the mutations that we can get in-game is the translation of synths getting mutations, but for the in-game because you can't properly make lore into game.

which would definitely make sense

[river marsh]

It would yeah. It also made me consider different character choices you could make to either go normal like we are now or do a "synth" run where you gain a random massively buffed mutation in exchange for a random extreme debuff, but i see that being cheesed by dying repeatedly until you get a "good" combo sadly

Finding ways to put lore into the game interaction wise is a fun brain tease

If difficult

[lethal moat]

I hope they put lore in the tutorial

[river marsh]

Yusss

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt we'd get a proper full on tutorial, especially for dinos

only thing we're known to get is the pop ups from Legacy, the toast notifs

and if anything, coming from my personal bias, i would love to have a proper tutorial only for the Gen2s ... MAYBE, MAYBE even a Gen1

i would not mind having a singleplayer short experience for Gen1s, in their "AE Prime"
assuming such, but... one could imagine what it may look like, drop bearing on certain peoples :))

[lethal moat]

I'm hopeful for a generic carnivore, herbivore, omnivore, gen 1, gen 2 tutorials

[river marsh]

We'll see what they cook up tbh. I think Rumples idea would be a good middle ground

At the very least to expose players to basic controls and stuff

[acoustic osprey]

i presume the button will just showcase all the pop up tutorials (so you don't have to go crazy on the internet trying to find "X" pop up you got)
and maybe a bit expanded

[lethal moat]

I hope they give us a walk through, you spawn in the lab, and you hear a scientists voice explaining "They follow migratory patterns" etc etc

[acoustic osprey]

-# *well don once said a singleplayer would be 'easy' *

so one would hope for something like such, would be very interesting

[river marsh]

We'll see. All of these can work tbh

Ones more immersive

[acoustic osprey]

Definitely, just the work would be a bit

i can definitely see a more singleplayer aimed mode (tutorial or more story-focused) once Isle reaches 1.0
or if Don wants to hire a side team to work on such

[lethal moat]

Have a strain kill off the player once the tutorial is over

[river marsh]

LOL

[acoustic osprey]

but i have a bit of a suspicion that, despite Don still doing a lot of lore here and there, i think he wants people to derrive their own ideas and lore (ARGing) on things

i don't think i can compile comments
but hmm

[river marsh]

Honestly that fits the tone

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-war-thunder-war-cat-war-gif-4929875301120562890

[river marsh]

Killing them just as they get attached

[lethal moat]

And now, we release them to the larger island to watch them get integrated with the actual ecosystem

Hyper carno sideswipes them the moment they're released the cage "Damn it, we'll have to talk to Greg in (bleeep) about telling us when he's conducting experiments"

[river marsh]

LOL

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/noise-child

[spark trellis]

"press e to eat. press e to drink. press e to eat a gastrolith."

[ionic fog]

Press e to buck, oops, the e press you used registered as pressing e to graze, the omnis will devour you now

[snow jasper]

uh oh

[acoustic osprey]

politics in my lore chat...

[rigid tartan]

We don’t need that here.

[olive hamlet]

Thought I'd post this here in case it hasn't been before, idk it might be part of a link or something. (from a building at the delta human structure)

[acoustic osprey]

I have a feeling this model is marketplace
But....
Im not 100% sure... so maybe hmm

Kinda want to ping the fella who was trying to suck the terminal of dry of any secrets it may have hidden, if any

Curious if the terminal will ONLY work with specific commands
Or if pasting certain things could activate something or another

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-abbott-elementary-gregory-greg-abbott-gif-11973503723217435922

[ember flame]

somethings got to give

[formal mural]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1430461157600264273/copy_95726E36-8BA8-4D78-9DF2-60937C087CD2.gif

[charred dust]

Guys, how do you know the eggs are ready to invite people?

[frozen totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396350852385603605/1435322479890530415/togif.gif

[knotty locust]

wrong discord channel

[snow jasper]

Happens

[tardy salmon]

hi, not sure if this is the right place or if this was already asked but ive been wondering what these structures might be for? In south plains. Just been curious ever since i stumbled across it.

[acoustic osprey]

our theories lie on a three-way split tri-enclosure
most likely for sub-aquatics

[tardy salmon]

i see i see, thank you for responding

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!

wish i could divert some lore on it, but sadly we ain't got anything on it yet

hopefully we get some documents or a video referring to this place

[tardy salmon]

fingers crossed, it looks super interesting

[fierce cradle]

We are waiting for spino ?

[glad spindle]

I have an idea

what if the isle

is set in an island

[bitter apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1335079313266966689/attachment.gif

[acoustic osprey]

probably not, and i hope not

[stone abyss]

is there anything where I can look at the full lore (thats known + theories and anything about the lore)?

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit This is probably the best spot for now

[stone abyss]

ok thanks!

[tranquil flume]

imagine if ocean.wav is on the same level of whatever ate a blue whale in half and the largest shark found irl

[lethal moat]

I'm sorry ate a blue whalte whatnow

[tranquil flume]

Yeaaah something bit a blue what in half lol

[tranquil flume]

Lima was telling me before he went to bed lol

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the craziest plant thing AE’s made is

[ornate comet]

<@&933486433342222376> rumpleeeee

[acoustic osprey]

What defines the most crazy though

[lethal moat]

Most impactful, most dangerous, most widespread, a variety of subjective criteria

[acoustic osprey]

Mmmm

[cold snow]

Tell me if im wrong : is it possible that by the infection /virus like "blocked" people's mind into the dinosaurs ?

[lethal moat]

Pardon?

[cold snow]

why am i telling this ? Mind-Uploads are Real: We know AE already puts human minds (EIPs) into dinosaur bodies. The technology to "link" them is already there.

The Server is Broken: The T.O.M.B. (the database for these minds) was destroyed. If the "home" for the mind is gone, there is nowhere for the consciousness to go back to.

"Cortex Corruption": The lore mentions this specific term. It suggests a virus that "breaks" the brain, likely locking the human pilot inside the dinosaur's instincts.

Human Emotions: Dinosaurs like Atlas show grief and protectiveness. This isn't just animal behavior; it looks like a human mind trapped and struggling to express itself.

Signal Jamming: Since Neurotenic (Type-N) strains can mess with electronics and signals, the infection could be "jamming" the exit signal, trapping the person in the body forever.

Living Proof: The Gen 1s and Eyeless are basically humans who got stuck or transformed. They are the "worst-case scenario" of people who couldn't get out.

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t be surprised if a computer virus had some significant part in the story, we know the TOMB was purged, and that seems like something a virus might be capable of

[cold snow]

And also gen2 humans could have been made in order to sell some kind of "experience" for the wealthy ones, some other activity to sell with the hunting

and so do you think that this is a possible theory ?

[lethal moat]

I’d say that’s possible given what we know, yis

[cold snow]

what are the other theories rn ?

[lethal moat]

Well we know that things on gateway devolved not just from one thing, I think corporate sabotage was a big part of it, which could play into your virus theory

[cold snow]

Ok ok thx

[acoustic osprey]

however, not purged
but eradicated

[acoustic osprey]

to note though
we know that NHJs (the zombies/the virus) is also connected to Neuros
take that as you will

are NHJs Neuro Drones? Are NHJs "proto-Neuros"/an early phase of Neuros?

*a by-product of Neuro interference that has spread as a virus? *

[acoustic osprey]

albiet, a very interesting idea though

[cold snow]

i see thanks

[uneven vigil]

Is there like any good videos I can watch for a good summary of the isle lore?

[lethal moat]

Lightclaw on youtube generally makes pretty good stuff, but given how little we actually know of the lore, there’s not really a comprehensive summary, this is probably the best for just concise information, but if you want something playing in the background for a few hours, there’s also used to be an isle lore podcast on spotify https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[bitter apex]

what if the isle is like an island or something

[uneven vigil]

What if the isle is a island that’s in a grocery store aisle

[bitter apex]

that would make sense

[snow jasper]

Me.

[desert mountain]

The island

we eat coconuts and crabs, or something

good game

[little summit]

what if the dinosaurs are all secretly running a massive CostCo inside the dome, and are acting like regular dinosaurs so no one gets suspicious

[lethal moat]

I knew it

[gaunt dawn]

Chocolate chunk cookie

[acoustic osprey]

can't be!
theres is more then one!

[acoustic osprey]

if you watch or did watch my intro to the isle video
Tiny fyi that that is kinda outdated, with things that have been further clarified over the years

I do need to make a renewed version of that video

but i feel like the timing of such is not appropriate, yet

[bitter apex]

how does the lore fit around the different islands i cant remember if it was ever explained

[lethal moat]

AE is the company behind the isle, and they don’t just operate in a single location

[bitter apex]

no i know that but like was the context behind the other islands explained i cant remember anything that may have been said when gateway released

[lethal moat]

We have the reserve and that’s what we know so far about other islands for Evrima, but there’s likely more I think

[bitter apex]

im hoping for more lore when/if we ever see the new map

[lethal moat]

🙏

[agile drift]

we needa new map

gateway has a lot of useless places where u will find one person in a lifetime

[bitter apex]

i love gateway but yes

[fast forge]

and yet people still wonder why they got rid of west access

[fierce cradle]

Any sneak peek on the new trailer for the steam page ?

[toxic rain]

Why? idk about it.

[fast forge]

it was a peninsula that they removed in the last big update, pulled people away from the center of the map

[toxic rain]

Damn, I see...I still hope that the devs will do something about the dead spots on the map tho. No reason to focus only on half of it...

[acoustic osprey]

and it removed h4... and h6...

[strong mango]

It does have some really well hidden nooks and crannies. I love it for nesting but often times they're well out of the way of either food or water and without a nesting partner they're kind of useless.. do you think nesting grounds will ever be properly integrated?

[fast forge]

I think the map might be pretty different next HT

and we had heard quite a bit about upcoming human structures, so I'm hopeful to see more stuff around the map

[acoustic osprey]

I have a feeling we'll be getting lab ix definitely

But i really hope the Redwoods for swamp is for Gateway

Not just locked up in the atrium

Maybe even have some sort of damage facing the swamp, world building!!

[spiral wasp]

I've been hearing a lot of people say that Gateway may be scrapped and replaced with a new map due to problems with the engine not liking the human structures. How likely is this? Or could we just be getting an additional map?

[lethal moat]

I highly doubt it’s going to be scrapped, we haven’t heard anything about that, I think it’s going to be an additional map

[acoustic osprey]

^

original plan for maps for recode was 5 maps
so we're likely to have more maps on the way without scrapping the last

Spiro really only being binned because Dum Spiro, Spero is basically not going to happen
and Spiro was rushed, so not a great foundation to grow with

and heck, Spiro might be redone for a V2

[spiral wasp]

I keep hearing Spiro and Spero, they're so similar name wise, are they the same thing or am I dumb lol

[acoustic osprey]

similar names
but were different maps

Spero was massive, too massive, and was never released due to server issues
Spiro was only what we got for Evrima (till Gateway)

[lethal moat]

They’re different, Spero was a much larger map planned before spiro that didn’t work out

[spiral wasp]

Gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

Isla Spiro was likely the 2nd or 3rd planned map for original recode
Thenyaw v2 either being 2nd or 3rd as well (but when dinosauriac, it went as well)

[spiral wasp]

Spero would be dope for single player

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[spiral wasp]

Wait so there's/may be islands in tropical regions and temperate regions?

[acoustic osprey]

our potential next could be temperate, which i DO hope so

[spiral wasp]

Excuse the auto correct lmao

Yesss I loved the legacy maps because of that

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

agreed

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/get-up-ser-arlan-of-pennytree-danny-webb-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-stand-up-gif-5384820049764597276

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/coldrings-mashiho-treasure-ground-fell-gif-20744809

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you'll-see-dunk-ser-duncan-the-tall-peter-claffey-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-gif-14418733024255153273

[agile drift]

nesting grounds is all i need to be honest i would love to see herbivores come to one place in massive groups just to nest

i hope they get added

[fast forge]

Nah nesting grounds are confirmed dead

I remember don saying something about them just becoming big carnivore traps

Also it detracts from the player's ability to find a cool little space around the map in which to nest

[granite mist]

Nesting Patrols will be the new nesting grounds.

[fast forge]

No, nesting zones or even nesting patrol zones are not coming, I just said that

Don literally responded to me about it, I remember

[river marsh]

Was gonna say nesting grounds are just death zones yeah.... they dont do what theyre intended to do

[rustic urchin]

I kinda hope sauropods get special zones to “drop off” their eggs since that seems to be their plan for how they nest iirc

Like a specific zone they just dump their eggs in the ground and then people have to run out like d day

[river marsh]

If "Zone" being a nest, then yes that will likely be the case. Any established "zones" as in preset areas they can nest would just get camped

[granite mist]

It’s not that I don’t believe you, but “when I asked him about it” should probably be backed up with a screenshot or something.

[fast forge]

You literally just did the same thing

You stated confidently that "Nesting Patrols will be the new nesting grounds", and provided no evidence either

[agile drift]

damn i would love to see nesting grounds

it should be something like mzs but only herbivores see it and sometimes it changes to another place

[granite mist]

Thanks for posting a screenshot. I was just going off the common information from Dev blog #52/53.

[tribal bobcat]

Lore .. I CRAVE LORE AURGHHH...

[snow jasper]

Calm down please sir

[grand epoch]

how to get sick on sstego in sanctuary to eat more for diet ?

[merry zodiac]

Naur

[merry zodiac]

Overeat, also this is lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/maekar-targaryen-lean-forward-huh-wtf-what-gif-1062280360135180066

[fast forge]

The AE employment scout trying to sell someone on the Thousand Life Contract:

https://youtu.be/5s9lOQtEWvI?si=Wie7ZM89DhvjpVLh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/it-would-be-so-awesome-it-would-be-so-cool-teen-titans-go-robin-gif-14628882061081858262

[lethal moat]

Always welcome new additions to my replicator playlist

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe soon

[tribal bobcat]

Gotta happen something in March.. right

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/what-plummer-tom-vaughan-lawlor-a-knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms-huh-gif-4577099312984516552

[tribal bobcat]

..

[fierce cradle]

Anamolies detected ...Hide

RUN

[slate pewter]

Hi there

[snow jasper]

No,

[merry zodiac]

Le sheep has spoken

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-drama-sci-fi-bbc-doctor-who-gif-3414644

[acoustic osprey]

bit slow on the errant-291 script

but i think i like the vibe of a bit more 'spooky camp fire story at 3am' sort of vibe

with the right old isle ambient music

[fast forge]

If you want some inspiration, maybe check out "The Exploring Series" on YT. They mostly do SCP content, but they've got that spooky vibe perfected, while also providing information in a concise format

[ornate comet]

explain to me the project

what style

[muted reef]

Any lore

[acoustic osprey]

Same as normal
But spooky camp fire story like opening

[acoustic osprey]

Let me answer you

[acoustic osprey]

Hmm
Thank you

[muted reef]

Answer me

[acoustic osprey]

i already did, hope that helped!

https://tenor.com/view/seal-idiot-stupid-gif-9039794989359108033

it's a shame though

I was kinda hoping, of course it all comes down to personal wants and the like, that this year would be a bit more speedy for 'everything'
At least, i was seeing main branch being something done just before Q1 finishes
and thus, a bit more of a push (presumed, of course) to work towards Gen2s over Dinos

But i dont.... really think that is gonna happen anytime soon
even once they do do main branch update
unless they secretly hire a team for Gen2s
Or do the easier task, which is just drip feed content to Gen2s.

All kinda assuming, though, that this would lead to a bit more of a push to putting lore in more forward

alas
we shall see

hopefully this dblog may be something interesting
especially if we get some info on documents coming to LAB IX or buildings in general

Heck, I know its a 1%er, but any sort of official comment (especially from the dblog) about the terminal would be nice
really reaching there, but. Tis be lore theories, its what we do best

[tranquil flume]

me

[tribal bobcat]

Devblog be filled with Lore.. trust

[tall zephyr]

Source

[ionic fog]

Loreblog came to him in a dream

[tall zephyr]

Oh then it must be true

[tribal bobcat]

Yeah .. tho not a dream (i saw it in a vision i had) .. where i was in Dondi's Pizza place. He gave me a pizza and told me some upcoming stuff

[tall zephyr]

Interesting

[tulip coral]

https://tenor.com/view/dondi-pizza-dondi-pizza-the-isle-the-isle-diets-gif-27333835

[gentle vessel]

I've been teetering, but I've decided that I don't like isle-discussion any more.

[ionic sable]

No way

[acoustic osprey]

fair

[acoustic osprey]

one can hope it'll have something

my hope is, at least, news on LAB IX on more stuff
*or also knowing if documents will be in-game any time soon 😔 *

one can hope!

[fast forge]

tbh, if we don't hear anything about Lab IX, isn't that better? It would suggest they are kinda done with it and maybe it's ready for HT

[acoustic osprey]

them not referring to it at is a bit more scarier
because then you play the chance game

another human thing left to waste in the bin of 'will come soon ™'
or actually something that is almost finished

i think i prefer a mention, especially if they're gonna be put into HT
that be the hope

[acoustic osprey]

oh well

until the next

[pulsar wing]

50% trike 😎

[acoustic osprey]

meanwhile Duke...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shogun-blackthorne-anjin-tea-sip-gif-7630651849479401016

[hexed forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/what-thats-it-is-that-it

[fierce cradle]

Hi all , why humans are disabled ... Will they add something for them. ?

[lethal moat]

Humans aren’t done

[acoustic osprey]

^

[quartz sundial]

<@&933486433342222376> islecord isnt ready for this

oh

[ornate comet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/speak-english-pulp-fiction

[tribal bobcat]

I'd love this on the island.. looks so sick!

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-myers-myers-wayne's-world-wayne's-world-movie-waynes-world-movie-gif-3760493570113032533

[nimble fractal]

The Joseph Hummingbird

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gibbon-speech-bubble-kasem-gibbon-speech-banana-gif-5732351543022458102

[gentle vessel]

I don't suppose you have that artwork of the helipad and the raptors, do you?

[ornate comet]

but like fr what is this from

[snow jasper]

the olden days

[acoustic osprey]

no hablo i think

[acoustic osprey]

an old old stream in 2018
sadly no more clips exist anymore

but Laacer had a video on a lot of what was shown

https://youtu.be/pNJbbshy500

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347233260555468863/1355904838507954347/Pad_Concept.png?ex=69a59848&is=69a446c8&hm=a1d1cb96f65dbb3cdcb08e8639d3b195d9e562c4a7d995eb4a58917086e7c919
this?

[gentle vessel]

That exactly! Thank you

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[gaunt dawn]

Im worried

[fast citrus]

x

[nimble fractal]

We (yes WE) once humans and vehicles for humans get added:

https://tenor.com/view/raptors-chris-pratt-motorcycle-dinosaur-funny-gif-14625801

[acoustic osprey]

quite, quite

[spiral wasp]

I can imagine a troodon driving a jeep lmao

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pine rose]

@acoustic osprey SOTF lowkey reminds me of lab IX and the older guts

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

it is something i do like from SoTF
the human area designs have a really nice design to them

it does give off LAB IX
but i just wish for more of Gateway to be human-ified

if even possible

probably more probable if we got singleplayer

[pine rose]

do you reckon if we got a new map we would get guts back?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
leaning towards no

but it depends

was Gateway only causing the z culling issue
or UE5 in general

man now i need to re-play SoTF

[tribal bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/kelvin-kelvin-is-on-fire-sons-of-the-forest-fire-gif-27630127

[fierce cradle]

Are the devs working on a new map ?

[acoustic osprey]

Jace may be
But who knows

[pine rose]

should have done it with me, turk, ducky, salty and others

[low scarab]

Probably one of the best don streams to date ngl

[gentle vessel]

One manning the wheel, two at the pedals, and one operating the handbrake and gear stick. Unless it's an automatic, then two of them can chill on the backseat (one will definitely be sticking its head out the window like a dog).

[spiral wasp]

😂 yesss!

[cerulean epoch]

Beipi, being a duck, is required to sit on the dashboard.

[snow jasper]

its so delicious
https://youtu.be/bXK4eSbZiiE

[acoustic osprey]

I hope and wish that PDA model isn't just a basic prop

[snow jasper]

one can only hope 😔

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so...

[acoustic osprey]

wow
I found an amazing tool

which reminds me of that one SSTV thing from way back (which i talked about earlier in Feb-ish, this year)

https://p2r3.github.io/convert/

File converter
Converts ANY file into another file
be it an mp3 into png, vice versa, etc

let me get an isle lore reference for example

using this

might be a bit loud, so far warning

it does not sound any interesting
but it doesn't just limit to WAVs, it can be ANY file

https://tenor.com/view/wait-anything-cat-hat-did-you-say-anything-gif-9678107

[acoustic osprey]

(and from this, using the website. Click WAV to png. And tada)

looks terrible quality for something you'd realistically want to read

but...
it comes off as a very creepy arg vibe, and if you find the 'right images' (only using images in this example, ... to begin with)
you can translate this into something pretty unique and interesting

the SSTV image is still far better quality and more reliable
but it is only for image to sound and sound to image

As again
this can be any file to any file

talking about this (the SSTV image ... aka. the B-443 image)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1471077852081422407/B-443.png?ex=69a7fd83&is=69a6ac03&hm=652300e21ac48edd69264758a0afd2e0de5cd0023c639cc29485bf05a8a62136

[snow jasper]

oh thats dope

[snow jasper]

this sounded cooler lol

[rough hollow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/shark-tank-VFYJXIuuFl6pO

[rigid tartan]

<@&933486433342222376>

[mortal surge]

@strange falcon

[strange falcon]

thx

[mortal surge]

yup

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-in-the-hat-dr-seuss-girl-gurl-sass-gif-8490801

[acoustic osprey]

wow
it does make things like creepy/spooky text a lot more unique

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
gets a lot more of a clearer image

I talked to the YTer who made it
but he seemed to be very against using SSTV
which is a bummer

it's 'lower quality'
but at least the image is a lot more accurate to what Don intended of the original image

saying that
still pretty cool

both the SSTV and the other

[exotic plover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006206574324363324/1260589904690282506/E.gif

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

not lore :((

[snow jasper]

sandwiches

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[snow jasper]

im not too fond of sandwiches

a slab of biltong hits the spot

[sonic vale]

are the dinosaurs friends

[acoustic osprey]

great question

probably not

like an animal, for the most part

even if they still obtain their human consciousness somewhere (if they have any to begin with)

THEY can NEVER be our friends!!

but

realistically
I presume basically any animals have have any sort of EIP/consciousness stuck into them
does not / cannot contain the ability to truly express friendship

at least, to the point/limit of what Atlas showed Duke

but then again, Duke kinda shows Salt some sort of friendship at the end of the Trike TCAM vid

[civic pollen]

i can't believe it wasn't lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jude-law-young-pope-pope-smoking-the-young-pope-gif-7447535

soon...
soon....

[civic pollen]

surely™

[acoustic osprey]

Shirley!!

[sonic vale]

why would the EIP prevent friend

[snow jasper]

collectivism

My favourite theory is that if EIPs are inserted into the animal, they are forced to have the mental capacity of which their bioloigcal physical form permits them whilst having the ability to know they were capable of greater lines of thought as a human. This is better understood by comparing us as humans to something like a dog.

https://tenor.com/view/great-jelly-thing-gif-10269271386098968945

[acoustic osprey]

our theory/presumption holds upon the idea that EIPs are purely consciousness

and how things in legacy lore have gone corrupted and seemed to act as if they were trapped, in some sort of mortal cage
we presume, in Evrima lore, that, because dino brain small, consciousness cannot truly be on the same level of empathy and complexity as a human with an EIP
maybe this being our (rough) theorised idea to why Don said this #isle-lore-theories message

The body rejects.

but was Don referring to EIPs (from Rumples message)
Or just specifically about Robo Quetz — even then, maybe Robo Quetz may have had an EIP. Does not mean "body rejects" is just for Robo Quetz though.
nonetheless... Don replies always do be a bit mysterious/without further context

But maybe EIPs can be friends with normal humans, with us.
Maybe... who knows...

maybe EIPs spite those who cannot/are not alike them.
As 'they' (as in we) cannot truly appreciate or understand what EIPs may go through.

• you cannot, can never, truly understand our suffering...

One could imagine (of course, we are still unsure of the true nature of EIPs. In which I HOPE we get some proper lore on them soon) that hopping from brain to brain, body to body, can be quite mentally draining. Having to live life to life...
Maybe you slowly reject their original self — *what is 1 human life over 1000 dinosaur/animalistic lifes? *

ultimately

I hope we get some yummy lore on EIPs

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-no-mouth-and-i-must-scream-ted-ihnmaims-ellen-ihnmaims-gorrister-ihnmaims-benny-ihnmaims-gif-9237881886766105894

[sonic vale]

i am still kinda confused. why would ur consciousness being caged not let u have a buddy

[acoustic osprey]

as much as i love the general style of lore communication in the official lore videos

I do hope we get into more serious 'lore'
especially stuff regarding more elaborate documentation, more horror, and the funny EIPs as well

[sonic vale]

dogs got friends bro

[snow jasper]

Trust nobody in the isle
Why, in world of creatures you cannot literately (not literally) understand, should you even bother when they're all competing with you or trying to kill you.

[sonic vale]

animals do it

[snow jasper]

You could make mutual respect, similar to symbiosis, but to the fundamental and natural line of thought is my life comes first.... then those I can communicate with and then those who seek no harm

[sonic vale]

they think like animals it’s not like they all have the evil virus

[snow jasper]

Exactly

[sonic vale]

birds can be very social aswell

raptors probably didn’t just stick to eachother purely for survival they probably needed the social interaction

is there like a reason the eip specifically is not friend able

[snow jasper]

Birds could be dumbed down to just alerting for predators and courting, its nothing complex, the complexity in my opinion wont start until you start looking at orcas or chimpanzees

[fast forge]

Well there really is no evidence of sociality in raptors, it was made up for jurassic park

[sonic vale]

also just look at humans, we are social animals because it helped with survival

and thus we got friends. animals do this exact thing

[sonic vale]

ah i c. surely there was social dinosaurs tho. just replace raptor with maia or whatever

even cows make friends

[fast forge]

We don't know how complex social interactions were between dinosaurs, but inevitably some of them would have had it

[sonic vale]

if u don’t count cows as friends that’s just u and not really the discussion i wanna have, is there any reason the EIP in specific can’t do this

[fast forge]

It's just one of those things that don't fossilize

[sonic vale]

i mean we can base it off birds like ducks and geese but ya we don’t rly know. ostriches also prob good

[fast forge]

Like we only know maia was social during nesting because we literally found a bunch of nests together

[snow jasper]

As an example just because the birds who made noises, whilst sacrificing their own life, there would be those individuals who associate the noise with danger and they would go on to survive and this would get reinforced over time
Although im pretty sure this is just a theory. Birds arent really communicating that in depth, they're probably just noise associations

[fast forge]

behavior like that rarely preserves

[sonic vale]

i mean friends doesent mean they are speaking a language to eachother

[fast forge]

I know some jungle birds use unique calls when jaguars are around, alerting the monkeys

[sonic vale]

being in groups usually helps survival and the way instincts make you stay in groups is making you crave social interactions

thus friends

[acoustic osprey]

It’s not that I disagree
At least for me, this is mostly all just topical conversations that no one can truly define. Painfully...
it just seems to be coming more from Legacy, our ideas with EIPs. And so...
With consciousness and EIPs, it feels less truly physically painful and more mentally painful; a mental challenge.
Having to live through a thousand lives would be exhausting in that sense.
So maybe there is an aspect of spite there.
We know with Gen 1s that some have gone insane. Of course, painfully, we just need more information on them. On basically everything like that... EIPs!!!
Do all Gen 1s and all creatures contain EIPs, yes or no? We just don’t know yet. Sadly.

But with friendship
I feel like we do need to define friendship thoguh, which is definitely hard.
Is working alongside another creature friendship, or just mutually beneficial?
Is it a form of symbiosis? Is friendship just symbiosis?
I don’t know.
I think friendship is a lot more of a human thing.
Of course, we can have friends with dogs ... I have my dog right beside me ...
but how do you define that friendship? Is my dog truly a friend, or is it just that I give food to him and so he knows that, and doesn’t bite the hand that feeds him?

Then the harsher question: if I die and my dog is left alone and needs to eat, would he resort to eating me? Would friends do that?
Maybe.
But if you left two friends on an abandoned island, would one kill and eat the other to survive?
Who knows. So would that invalidate the friendship?

Maybe friendship is purely a human construct, for humans.
Maybe it can only exist within the same species.
It might be a form of human arrogance to project it outward. Seeing as we’re the only beings that can truly recognise civilisation and society, perhaps friendship is a social construct in that regard.

but yeah

[fast forge]

It can be an advantage and also a hindrance

Diseases and parasites are more common as social animal populations increase

[acoustic osprey]

bird song 🥰

[sonic vale]

would you be sad if it died maybe? idk

[sonic vale]

ya they can be, but the instinct is still there so you get in a group

[snow jasper]

As I said, I think they are forced into this biological cage where they are forced into their biological and dumbed down behaviours which is separate from humans
Moreover, thats why AE probably makes the behavorial distinction between omniraptors; Stegosaurus could be more biologically inclined to seek social interaction whereas the triceratops couldnt care less

[sonic vale]

i think friends is probably if you would grieve the things death

[fast forge]

Sociality is not always an advantage, it depends on the organism

[sonic vale]

it idk, maybe someone’s got a better idea for that

[sonic vale]

yeah ur correct

[fast forge]

Some species do better at low population densities

[sonic vale]

i’m talking about animals with the instinct to want to be social

i’m aware the spinosaurus ingame wouldent have friends

trike probably has friends tho and they laugh and drink together

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-slop-em-up-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-lets-slosh-them-lets-splash-on-them-tim-robinson-gif-9883680807912888014

[sonic vale]

yes precisely

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much why the black plague spread
Mongols solidified the silk road on the stepps — less random/war lord nomads on the steppe (now all under Chengis Khan)
and so human populations and hubs started to spring up along the silk road (especially into the west)

and then lead into the west and caused the black plagues numbers...

[sonic vale]

i mean i get the raptor is probably genetically coerced into wanting to be social, but that doesent make them not friends

the instinct is to be social, and they become friends and laugh and crack jokes

[snow jasper]

I find humans to be unique because I don't think there is any organism which practises self sacrifice consciously for the survival of others, not to the point of sacrificing their own life
If it came down to it, you'd probably find that the omniraptor, for example, they would ravage a corpse in order to get more than each other because that is an example of competition for survival, you're going to want more even though you helped your "friends" take down another dinosaur. Its self serving

[sonic vale]

i think social animals usually have some sort of empathy involved

not all, like piranhas prob don’t, maybe wrong ab that tho

[acoustic osprey]

If you're talking about animals forming friendships with other animals, and we're using actual evidence, we can clearly observe some form of friendship developing between Duke and Salt.
Which is cool!
From that, as I mentioned before, we can reasonably identify some sort of bond forming between them.

of course, to what extent? who knows
we just lack the context... we don't even know if Duke (or Salt, albeit Salt is a SYNTH) has an EIP
So... yay

However, if we're discussing friendships between animals, particularly EIPs, and humans, I just wish we had more evidence and clearer criteria to rely on.
There simply isn’t as much concrete material to draw firm conclusions from.

but yay

[sonic vale]

but wolves are highly empathetic and friends

[snow jasper]

I mean, elephants technically find humans cute, something about triggering the same chemicals as humans if they saw a dog
But I dont think an elephant would go out of its way to help a human without anything in return

[sonic vale]

so the dino’s can be friends?!?

[acoustic osprey]

with this,
-# I know i'm just repeating myself, so i do apologise

but Duke (and his papa) appears to have the mutation of empathy

[sonic vale]

so the raptor pack are all friends who know each others favorite colors

[sonic vale]

i mean yeah evolution wouldent have you evolve to help other things i dont think

[acoustic osprey]

dinos do seem to have some sort of dino buddies! yeah!!

[sonic vale]

dolphins are friends but also just evil

they can be rotten even towards other dolphins but still have dolphin friends

[snow jasper]

dinosaur vocals in-game is dumbed down to just chatter, broadcast, courting, friendly, threaten, fear/alert so lore wise, I would burst that bubble

[sonic vale]

nah because the raptor only eats green maiasaura peeblesorum

[snow jasper]

I suppose dinosaurs would have an in-species preference though, given that you can only communicate within your own species

[sonic vale]

in game and in lore are probably very different things i will say

in lore the dino’s don’t actually make coherent sentences the others can understand

[acoustic osprey]

in legacy, no (they wanted to answer everything)
but in Evrima, i do not imagine that being the case anymore — i can imagine it just being a pain to have to, especially with more in depth mechanics now

[sonic vale]

but the dibbles are all fronds

[snow jasper]

competition for mating

[sonic vale]

ya i think its better off being a bit seperate

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[sonic vale]

have them very connected but we don’t gotta make us see thru the dino’s eyes and remove text chat

[snow jasper]

i would actually love to see the isle if they tried 0 in-game chat

just pure noise

[sonic vale]

it would be cool

[snow jasper]

it would definitely be more immersive

[acoustic osprey]

i just hope that doesn't mean just not putting more cooler lore into the game

some things Don have said 'recently' (the past few years)
often allude to Don wanting more things made by the community (Arg-esque) rather then purely going having all lore in-game
which is a bit scary for the 'future of lore'

[sonic vale]

i’d like to just see what happens if u remove name tags for group members

[snow jasper]

clan skins 😨

[sonic vale]

well also u just don’t know where ur friends are always

[snow jasper]

thats another thing, i would remove the skin system if i had the choice as well

[sonic vale]

u gotta actually press F to find them if u get separated in a jungle

nooooo skins are awesome

[acoustic osprey]

as much as i love people making args
I prefer having lore to be relatively much all given

where, though, many holes existing to allow us to theorise and try and glue together
rather than ARG-over it

[sonic vale]

i mean community lore just wouldent be the same

no story line would actually be the isles story

and everyone’s arg is gonna contradict eachother

[snow jasper]

should only need to make sense to yourself and that it remains unanswered

[sonic vale]

arg is cool but we don’t need dondis seal of approval people can just do that

i want a full official story…

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[sonic vale]

i really hope with humans we get most of the lore

i don’t want like live service drip feeding of lore

community having to figure it out is cool (like fnaf sorry)

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/sopranos-paulie-gualtieri-happy-smile-lol-gif-16139758

[sonic vale]

is it going to be drip feeding lore

[snow jasper]

its been like that for years so far

[sonic vale]

sigh

[snow jasper]

which is why i think this lore drought is a good thing

we might get a lore flood

[sonic vale]

yea it’s okay if the lore just isn’t there cuz the games not done but like. once we have the humans and strains ingame cmon.

only new lore bits should be if they make a new map

but we shouldent be waiting for main plot stuff with that

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-kingpin-clicking-pen-clicking-pen-spider-verse-into-the-spider-verse-gif-5180708998338482135

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
especially with the old Apollo Files

working off basically nothing, no supports
and trying to make sure there is a foundation for people to make stuff off is nice, but that comes at the risk of hoping people do want to make something out of it

and, if anything, a lot of our ARGs that we've done
really comes out/is made because the existing lore has an apparel that is attractive

so shall Don...
widen the ocean?
or increase the depth?

you can definitely do both (at the same time, especially)
but i imagine that being a lot harder being a one band man for lore

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-chill-gif-2382652811146011065

[acoustic osprey]

the embed!!

https://tenor.com/view/shogun-blackthorne-anjin-tea-sip-gif-7630651849479401016

[river marsh]

#isle-discussion message

SAVING THIS

[gaunt dawn]

It didnt mean anything!!!

[river marsh]

It did not no xD got excited

[acoustic osprey]

oh fun

still doesn't work though :((

[lucid valley]

The isle is actually just a island that has dinosaurs. Thank me later.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-thor-god-of-war-motivational-quotes-be-better-gif-10546940836687194054

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-seek-death-do-you-seek-death-kratos-kratos-do-you-seek-death-god-of-war-do-you-seek-death-do-you-seek-death-god-of-war-gif-9083295661728348985

[acoustic osprey]

woah

[snow jasper]

is lorecord still alive 🤔

[gaunt dawn]

That server got deleted

I think

Theres a new lorecord but i dont look in it ever

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/coach-left-4-dead-this-a-burger-tank-surprised-oh-gif-4853657694729558684

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

Slowly been dying for a while now
Even in the original

[snow jasper]

tragic

[acoustic osprey]

As much as people's biases are, a lot of the problematic people are gone

Maybe 'dying' because of its legacy

But like
Even in this channel, which is a very accessible public forum
Barely anyone is chatting

Sadly I'm most out of cool lore theory juice
Unlike me for the last few years for almost every day

And outside of that
Most convos are not really proper lore

Either random people with random barely lore comments
Or bot accounts

It is a shame

We got lore relatively recently
Two things!

But...

[snow jasper]

one day

one day people will flock to this channel like the exodus guided by moses

[acoustic osprey]

I think it comes down to two major things

1. Lorecords deletion, with and without the acknowledgement of the negatives of some from it, saw a large amount of people being immediately pushed back and disconnected
   • i noticed people who didn't really care about those people immediately stop coming to even islecord lore chat. Even regulars who have been chatting for a bit

I think it was a little realisation point for most: isle lore is on the back burner for the devs. And lore we are getting is not like the same medium we were used to in Legacy

Which relates to this point...

2. Evrima lores medium is completely different to what we've had before. A medium which isn't really pointing at the most unique qualities of lore for The Isle.
   • the specific format for basically every lore piece we've gotten, besides ERRANT-291, is a lot more showcase-y and not intended to get into the nitty gritty bits of lore. Nothing overtly complicated or really unique for isle lore.
     • however, yes, still hinting at little things. Like Tartarus, archive 7 being very wonky thus maybe hinting at it being attacked or akin.

but
It is all light, all things that are definitely not on the nose. Not lore content made for these more specific harder pieces in the isle.

It is not to say these pieces of content are bad because, no, they are pretty amazing and made with a great fidelity to them - the trike video being amazingly written - it is just that this is not lore heavy

Strip these videos to their core, to painfully scrutinise them all: they're still teasers with some world building within them

...

At least
That is what i have been thinking about

[snow jasper]

brain aneurysm inducing

[acoustic osprey]

So yeah
I don't really blame lorecord, not rumple for deleting the og one, I don't blame Dondi for the style and direction of every lore video.

It is just a lot of things that contribute to it all
Which... oh well

[acoustic osprey]

I hope i haven't written the wall badly...

Im on my phone 😔

[snow jasper]

ih i meant the lore is

that too, 4am and im on a sleeping call while in bed 🫩

[acoustic osprey]

rah!!

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of brain aneurysm
i kinda agree, a bit

but maybe not exactly though

it just feels like its not enough brain aneurysms!
I need more of the juicy complicated and more isle-ish lore

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/trinity-bomb-nuclear-weapon-oppenheimer-los-alamos-atom-bomb-gif-16272589027919557028

[lethal moat]

I do look forward to the day people encounter stuff in game often enough that there’s a consistent flow of people coming in to ask what things mean

[tulip coral]

The isle feels way too niche for it to blow up like that

[lethal moat]

I think human gameplay will surprise us

[tulip coral]

I hope so

I think The Isle has potential

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope so for such a day

sometimes Dons quotes, albeit there isn't a lot of them though — which is good —, do kinda scare me

something i've talked about a few times though
but making things able to be made by players easily

Which at times seems like he wants people to write their own lore for things, as a more main focus
rather then getting people to theorise the gaps in lore, using lore

seemingly to be a bit more

not have to work a lot on lore
because "i have placed the foundational stones, so others (for their own Isle ARGs) to expand upon themselves" sort of thing
which seems to be a vibe i get from some comments

i should probably get a compliation of some of quotes though, so it doesn't seem that i'm putting a cat out of nothing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-25023528

anyways
the isle lore!!

[tribal bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-shrug-dexter-dexter-morgan-dexter-meme-shrug-gif-10663109702520140606

[polar bramble]

isle the

[ember flame]

The oil

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shogun-yabushige-huh-tadanobu-asano-cosmo-jarvis-gif-8435781995122956918

[quiet wadi]

The oil

[acoustic osprey]

thanks...

[acoustic osprey]

huh, i forgot

[tranquil flume]

you forgor?

[acoustic osprey]

Can be used to pull documentation at any time from the waystation

from one of the dblogs about the PDA

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes i do!!!

[tranquil flume]

how dare you!

lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

[tranquil flume]

i hate this new trend image you've found 😂

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[tranquil flume]

it's awful lol

[ornate comet]

<@&933486433342222376>

[ornate comet]

Always sucks to see peoples accounts fall victim to scams and then paste the same old stuff here

[acoustic osprey]

always ghosting this poor channel :((

[fallow harbor]

this is cool

[gaunt dawn]

Woah

It doesn’t work on mobile

[civic pollen]

woah

[gaunt dawn]

How do you do that

[civic pollen]

i think you click on the role, mobile is too silly for such things

[gaunt dawn]

Another reason why mobile sucks

[fast forge]

ngl weekend work in a biology lab is lowkey scary

The feeling when you are the only person in the building and you step out of a room called "Advanced Biosafety Level 2"

Feels like I'm in the start of a resident evil game

[civic pollen]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazard-bio-suit-hazmat-hazmat-suit-all-good-gif-16656565

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/simpatico-christmas-2020-hover-dance-moves-gif-19566798

[fast forge]

It's fiiine

Worst case scenario, I accidentally infect myself with hepatitis

[civic pollen]

oopsie daisy

[snow jasper]

what

[snow jasper]

I dont recommend

[acoustic osprey]

LAB IX but irl!

[hollow marten]

How will the humans on the island be introduced and will they have a similar trailer to the dinos

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/aa-aaa-aah-scream-screaming-cat-gif-693344121160663519

[hollow marten]

?

[acoustic osprey]

i hope i answered your question :))

||we don't know||

[hollow marten]

As with all things isle related we don’t have a cooking clue

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-this-do-not-do-this-indian-guy-indian-meme-gas-station-employee-gif-16082942181812825239

[hollow marten]

lol

[tribal bobcat]

What if I do?

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[lethal moat]

They got pneumatic pistons and hoses on top of the dome now

[acoustic osprey]

I believe that has always been there

nonetheless, is quite interesting

i do think maybe something with the inner opening and connecting with their white placeholder tube in the middle

*don't think its there anymore though * (the inner white tube that is)

[pine rose]

Always been there

[white cloud]

The isle has lore?

[knotty locust]

yes.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1381998195953107055/1381998285300174960/6fa4fdb37f12f0b6821fe39bc209c969e4ef81ed.jpg?ex=69b0ce73&is=69af7cf3&hm=2265b0ff719a8e8b0dab55ed5c8b5be7a66a897c52ac4779ad8c76cfdacb2df4&

[white cloud]

What is this?

[knotty locust]

the arbourburst tree

if you want a complete document with everything known so far:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[white cloud]

It is lore?

[knotty locust]

to put it simply, the game goes beyond being just a "funny dinosaur game"

the iceberg runs deep

[white cloud]

Ok. Does it have a storyline?

[knotty locust]

yes and no

we have various different events and whatnot, and we do have some dates/times (like the 1980s or 90s and then 2172)

but theres no concrete event 1 -> event 2 -> event 3

the document has everything so far

[tame pike]

what if the constant storms on gateway is just another.. Carnian Pluvial Event

[ornate comet]

I thought you said horses

[fast forge]

more like
rain in a rainforest

[stoic hamlet]

rain rain go away

[gaunt dawn]

Lore

[acoustic osprey]

do rain a lot in one

when i was in thailand, it just kept raining or painfully overcast during summer
basically like the UK but hot

[tribal bobcat]

Umm.. lore

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[tribal bobcat]

[civic pollen]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-valhalla-kratos-sit-on-chair-god-of-war-ragnarok-valhalla-gif-15825669449820971478

I kinda don't mind keeping this channel a bit in the back pocket for a while, at least with me

safe measures to not lead into total destructive burn out

[civic pollen]

fair

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-baggy-trousers-madness-band-gif-25662085

[low scarab]

so its not just me who died?

[acoustic osprey]

haven't we all, a few times at least

just not yet 1000... not yet...

[uncut shale]

https://cdn.steamusercontent.com/ugc/13916142602573504288/3C4A079D61BE9A4017AD5756D4EBF8A2CE86B9E8/ So I remember this sound was heard in a stream a while ago but didnt know it was actually able to be heard in game

[nimble fractal]

People are surprised trees make tree noises only after the tree noises were shown on stream?
We truly hit the lore drought

[tribal bobcat]

😭

[frosty root]

that lowkey sounds like the cannibal sounds from legacy

i think there is a clip where anthomnia hears it near the old aviary

[uncut shale]

Yeah if I remember correctly there was a stream one of the devs did (I believe dondi) a few years ago where he is sitting on top of current gate ways dome and this sound plays and people were theorizing that it was some kind of gen 1 sound or ambiance due to its similarity to the old cannibal sounds not just “tree sounds”

[frosty root]

cannibals in domes again yayyyy

[pine rose]

its been in the game for years

it could still be a reference to cannibals/gen1, but it could also just be a funny branch

[frosty root]

cannibal branch🎃

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/sick-reference-sick-reference-bro-jonah-gif-5726868

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[acoustic osprey]

This sound was, this sound is alike that sound that we heard in the stream many, many years ago, many, many, many years ago.

The only difference is that that original sound is not a very complex or unique sound,
and basically is very reminiscent of real-life tree creaking.

I'll just say this, because it's better to just answer straight away, but that sound that you have recorded and that we can, that's been in the game for quite a while in Evrima, is that it is just tree creaking.
And is confirmed by Wedge and Dondi, which is a bit of a bummer

-# and somewhere inside, you have to, there has to be some sort of like, they've had to have realised that this sounds basically the exact same. But then again, Wedge is not the dev who did that original "Cannibal Sound". So maybe he knew, maybe he didn't know, because he wasn't ever in Legacy development. So yeah...

#isle-lore-theories message #isle-lore-theories message
confirmation as well

[fast forge]

ngl I always thought it sounded like tree creaks

[lethal moat]

When Don showed off the Quetz vocal suite I couldn’t tell the difference personally

[river marsh]

Having some ambient sounds be similar to dangerous things isnt bad for this game. Keeps you on edge.

[tribal bobcat]

Wth

<@&933486433342222376>

[snow jasper]

Tree dont even creak like this, its my least favourite sfx in the game

They sound more like squeeky doors or like squeels or the sound that is made when you rub the bath tub with your hand

Its similar with that metal creaking sound effect too, it doesnt have any explanation but it just occurs for no reason, i could maybe expect that noise in the docks but nowhere else

[nimble fractal]

But I could.

Yes I will remind you of that your entire 1000 lives

[fast forge]

depends on the type of tree I'd think

[valid geyser]

Yeah it depends on the type of tree and its age i think

At least where I am if you go into the forests you'll hear a mix of both, since we have a lotta young trees but also some really really old ones and a mix of a lot of different trees

[snow jasper]

i‘ve only been to young growth forests since the UK basically has chopped down every old growth forest for their naval endeavours

[valid geyser]

ah yeah, I think its older, bigger trees that usually do the sound in the video, that or its a specific kind, im not sure, I never really tried to pinpoint what kind

[acoustic osprey]

they do sound like tree creaking
especially from afar (so reverb and distance effects)

https://youtu.be/2wQdACbhYcg
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AczXwUO17tk

[snow jasper]

No

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[snow jasper]

No they do not

[acoustic osprey]

Erm i give the evidence!

[tribal bobcat]

Creaking

[snow jasper]

This proves they sound different sir

[acoustic osprey]

They sound almost the exact same
Just without digital reverb and some equalisation effects!!

[snow jasper]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExY3o0bzJpaDFjdXhhYmtpZGRidHN6dWxvNjc2YmplMnAwcHpkdjAwaCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/bwYVXGojo5zbkt9CIX/giphy.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Same

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/never-give-up-fist-pump-motivation-motivational-gif-4892451

[acoustic osprey]

Rah!!!

It's my head when I get a bit gloomy about lore!!

[snow jasper]

oh dear

[lethal moat]

https://open.spotify.com/track/20A2Xe76p9wxUFLbbzZjTM?si=sRokrR7WSb2xBRadtPwGmA

Looking to grow the isle lore playlist again, yall got any recommendations?

[fast forge]

Great song, Jim Croce's music always reminds me of my father

oh wait I've got a good one actually
Toes, by Glass Animals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ifSSg1HAo

The lyrics are about a pig man on The Island of Dr. Moreau
Convincing himself of his humanity, despite his twisted body

I'm a man, I'm a twisted fool
My hands are twisted too
Five fingers, two black hooves

I'm a man, don't spin me a lie
Got toes, and I can smile
I'm crooked but upright

This song has also been on my mind, imagining an EIP repeatedly ending up in a big herbivore body
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1980WfKC0o

oh I forgot it was in dunk and egg lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/eHK67LiMI8k

not just a great guitar riff
but the lyrics is really nice

it also is fitting of the actual Iron Lung movie

i suppose anything iron lung-y / locked in some sort of cage is always gonna have this sort of Thousand Life Contract/EIP-vibe to it

[fast forge]

Radiohead is always a vibe

[acoustic osprey]

exactly
i think seeing people my age who listen a lot to them leans towards a bit of a trope of character
(so i think, at times, subconsciously pushes me away from listening a lot)

buttttt
they still made amazing songs to listen to that just have a really nice vibe to them, quite quite so

[fast forge]

I think there are different types of music for different parts of your life

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, agreed!

[fast forge]

It's certainly been true for me

and then some songs I can always come back to

[acoustic osprey]

i love how art can do that

[fast forge]

Speaking of unique vibes, this one makes me think of hypers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftOnimHN1Mc

[acoustic osprey]

i think for me, that would be with Ben Folds
there are just some songs that are beautifully intertwined in my life

[acoustic osprey]

very unique intro
and the rest (albeit not my taste) rocks

[ornate comet]

@acoustic osprey happy replication day

[low scarab]

Dlz tv on the radio
Knights of cydonia muse

[low scarab]

Listened to this after watching the movie with a friend that came in from out of town it was such a vibe even better is it snowed the next day

10/10 week

[acoustic osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

thank you Ben!!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

mmmmm
I can feel the vibe, that would have been amazing

i remember listening to the song after the movie whilst eating some spicy left over thai laksa lol

[low scarab]

lol

[dark wasp]

hello

[snow jasper]

the hoade

[ornate comet]

Should have had some mimicry stuff in there

It’s peak tho

[rough hollow]

I need to redo this, but mimicry belongs to this guy in my interpretation of the lore.

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-the-isle-gmod-troodon-troodon-the-isle-dilophosaurus-gif-9629496049012538059

[acoustic osprey]

tasty

whats fun but also a bit sad, is that Don did mentioned that he had apparently written lore for The Horde

shame we're still yet to get all these little things Don have written here and there

[lethal moat]

Actual footage of lore nerds doing research

[keen knot]

yall what are strains?

[lethal moat]

Severe genetic mutations to existing creatures https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[keen knot]

thx

[rough hollow]

We pray.

[ornate comet]

I do wonder how other strains will be food drain wise

like I know hypers will be constantly starving, but can I live a relatively normal existence as a tisso?

imagine if neuros have deino level water drain becase of their skin losing moisture too fast so its like the opposite of hypers lol\

[nimble fractal]

<@&933486433342222376>

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-young-pope-pope-young-pope-gif-18023810
soon...

[strong mango]

[brave pawn]

do we have any rough time estimate of when the game takes place?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-eyeglass-exellent-question-gif-12818139

[rough hollow]

Isn't there like three possibilities? lol

All vastly different from eachother

[acoustic osprey]

if anything

Isle may take in one of a few possibilities 'points of time'
-# however, do have to note, that when the in-game and what we see in-lore could likely vary quite a lot. Heck, there might be some lore that is, on the timeline, very far back in time, and other things that are more closer to when we play

but in terms of dates we have:

we have
1994-99 (from the living roadmap)
and also 2172 (which isn't easily found unless you adjust the gamma level for the ERRANT-291 main document.)

however...
things to consider:
Legacy had a date of 2017 (when 'we' were playing the game) alongside 2004 (when was when the 12 reapers were made) ... again, legacy!

Aaaaaand we also have the actual models from in-game
Which contain things like modern flat screens to CRTs + (fake) MS-DOS running computers
From magic-level tech to 'state of the art' 90s computers

so... its a bit weird

but not crazy weird when, in reality, a lot of companies just go by "if it aint broke, don't fix it mentality"
Heck, my mums lab ran Windows XP (or Vista... I forget now because midnight, but something older then Windows 7) until recently

however

AE don't seem to be absurdly worried about expenditure, at times
seeing as they built big cement dome (or more if the others are still canon, which... yeah...)
Because tax deductions be something fun

https://tenor.com/view/gorrister-gorrister-ihnmaims-ihnmaims-gif-2564304289874165779

hopefully we do get a bit more of a confirmed date though, lol
soon

[rough hollow]

I wouldn't be surprised if all of this has taken place over a significant amount of time. My personal feelings is that it's in the 2100s but due to some kind of in-world crisis, they had to resort back to more retro technology. Or potentially for security reasons.

[rough hollow]

I have seen a lot more No Mouth references recently lol

[formal mural]

hmm

[rustic urchin]

I love the idea of the super advanced ai system running off of windows 94

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/arnim-zola-zola-cut-off-one-head-two-more-shall-take-its-place-cut-off-one-head-two-more-shall-take-its-place-gif-5641038400811233846

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-hiding-jobe-smith-lawnmower-man-gif-4211919196203842353

There is also this

[rustic urchin]

<@&933486433342222376>

[safe roost]

All dinosaurs have human dna.

[gaunt dawn]

They have human consciousness

I think

[acoustic osprey]

probably, yeah

[rough hollow]

Remastered.

[acoustic osprey]

oh its The Thing!

this is really nice
I like having it contain a bit of an incident report at the notes section
Just as a fair reminder as strains are not so nice :))

[rough hollow]

Not nice at all lol

[acoustic osprey]

-# (my only question, with is out of context of this, but what does the H in HCAM mean)

[rough hollow]

Handheld Cam

[acoustic osprey]

oh nice

i wouldn't mind that being such
Monitor Cam
Trail Cam
Handheld Cam would be a nice and workable addition

[rough hollow]

I know it isn't accurate to lore as far as we know, but it's at least believable lol

[rough hollow]

Yeah wanted to follow that trend

I can imagine that Apollo would want some ground team of sorts to record their findings as they go.

[acoustic osprey]

*to be fair, we haven't really seen any handheld lore (albeit... the pachy video but thats confirmed needing to be updated, if they want to. So not lore accurate) ... soooo, can something be inaccurate if nothing of it yet exists *

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

[rough hollow]

Perhaps B-CAM for bodycam

[acoustic osprey]

-# and if we already have had a handheld video... even though it is now outdated ... it still works for actual lore

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

would definitely work

stuff like that just make it simple and understandable for reports and system terminology

[rough hollow]

That'd probably be more efficient for Apollo instead of someone having to manually record.

Same for policing.

[acoustic osprey]

exactly!

imagine having to write Trail Camera [+ 4 digit serial] TCAE-X3840-4521 every time (the end numbers being whatever random mix of digits as well lol)

[rough hollow]

That incident report is loosely based off of a Backrooms video.

[rough hollow]

Eugh

[acoustic osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

||i really hope the movie is good!||

[rough hollow]

|| I have high hopes based on what I've read ||

[acoustic osprey]

please....

||i've been told to listen to the guys' soundtracks/albums (i think my brother said they'll be used in the movie. Which I kinda hope they do ... when do you see a director also doing the composition)||

nonetheless
Isle backroomy vibes, especially in something like LAB IX ... would be something

[rough hollow]

Kane is immensely talented. The trailer up until the last shot was Blender.

[acoustic osprey]

i know Don said no motion capture
but please....

[acoustic osprey]

damn

[rough hollow]

Motion capture?

[acoustic osprey]

for ease of having to animate every human, for Seiza

[rough hollow]

Right I get you. Yeah that's a task and a half.

[acoustic osprey]

for me, i could imagine it would be possible to outsource someone to do it
because Dondi replied that he didn't have any a suit

oh
more so the room

but still
I know it would be fun to do it personally though

ah well

[rough hollow]

MoCap is getting easier. It's still pricey, but the tools are getting more and more accessible.

You can probably do basic motion capture with an Xbox Kinect if you were that desperate. But for quality's sake, a suit would be best.

I'm looking to get one for future projects. That's likely when I move out as I do not have room in the slightest lol

[acoustic osprey]

Xbox Kinect
I think i've seen a video on something with it lol

[rough hollow]

It's not perfect, but it works.

Just needs cleaning around the edges most times

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sonic vale]

release what tartarus is. i demand it.

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[rough hollow]

I can send you there if you prefer it. Once you see it, you won't get out.

It's like space travel. You could travel to the farthest galaxy, but you won't be able to tell anyone what you find.

[safe roost]

Yeah

[quartz sundial]

I wanna go

[civic pollen]

we could visit ben!

[ionic fog]

I can’t believe Lore channel had another coup, muting Lightclaw because he knows the truth!!

[next glade]

pst

want a vape beasty?

[civic pollen]

[next glade]

i got all kinds of flavors

[civic pollen]

this is lore theories

[next glade]

strawberry, mango, kiwi,

psst pigeon want a vape?

[civic pollen]

https://klipy.com/gifs/uh-no-no

[next glade]

how else is a pigeon suppose to fly?

[gaunt dawn]

[quartz sundial]

[white cloud]

Is this for official or fanmade lore

?

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-nacho-libre-jack-black-open-door-doorway-gif-17505670

[civic pollen]

yes

[white cloud]

Which one yes?

[civic pollen]

both.

[civic pollen]

there is a document in the pinned messages for what we know of official lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

Yes

[snow jasper]

lightclaw has no cc role?

https://tenor.com/view/pineapple-flying-pineapple-flying-throwing-old-gif-11620339578442407688

[acoustic osprey]

Is that so...

Ugh
that damn Automod

[acoustic osprey]

I've sent a message to Gar though

So hopefully the purple comes back soon...

[snow jasper]

😔

[acoustic osprey]

with this
Mostly official

its not really intended for fanmade/arg lore
but if people send stuff they have made, it seems to be ok. Especially if there is quality behind it

[dusk pier]

yo i gota ask i recall that the hypo strain was renamed to hyper but wasnt there like another strain called nero strain or something

my lore is getting out dated i need to refresh my isle lore

[sonic rampart]

It was never renamed, it was always hyperendocrine. And yes, neurotenic

[dusk pier]

Oh

[river marsh]

Hyper = fast metabolism
Hypo = slow metabolism

People just call it hypo for whatever reason

[dusk pier]

Ahhh that makes sense

[strange shell]

It's because of the hypopotamus

[dusk pier]

I use to watch the legacy videos of them i dont remember a herbi strain being played

[strange shell]

They don't exist

[dusk pier]

I have to say titanboa can still make a come back all it is is a deinosuchus that climbs palm trees or swims with a ridiculous death rate or the only playable that will punish you for even asking for it to be in the game if only ai could solve tha animation problem

[strange shell]

Ai doesn't solve problems
It only creates new ones
Also wrong channel to talk about this

[dusk pier]

So no counter to the carnivore strains rip

[dusk pier]

Ok my bad

[ornate comet]

Imagine a neuro Herrera emitting frequencies that mess with prey’s senses, leading to them believing that there is food where there isn’t and then the Herrera jumps on em

[fast forge]

olfactory hallucinations

[last onyx]

or imagine neuro deino that can do the same lowk but different(i forgot what i wanted to say mid sentence)

[acoustic osprey]

Hyperendocrin!!

[hexed forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/breaking-bad-why-are-you-white

[acoustic osprey]

Automod

I do need to ask Gar again about putting it back

[hexed forge]

😔

[tranquil flume]

Light you’re no longer purple what???

[cinder atlas]

Ourple

[tranquil flume]

Ok nvm discord decided to just not load in colors

[cinder atlas]

No it needed to be reapplied.

[civic pollen]

okxul is the best

[cinder atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-i-dont-know-maybe-ehhh-tony-gif-17090250

[acoustic osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wth-luistt8n-dinosaur-wtf-ieRtGgdBKEXnRpxAed

[hollow elk]

Guys let’s get them to add yutyrannus (best dinosaur)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spinner-shark-gif-8618612501925991834

[young sphinx]

Dondi drop some lore

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[rough hollow]

Troodon doesn't exist.

[acoustic osprey]

erm!!

https://giphy.com/gifs/kratos-falling-meme-IkfbUjTyQBH2ZKzrB9

[muted hill]

doesnt really count as a theory but ive got my fingers crossed the new map thats been hinted towards with the redwood is the Reserve from lore 🤞

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[acoustic osprey]

honestly this channel needs to be renamed to lore discussion rather then theories
but yes

i really hope it will be (Reserve)
it would be so awesome

[muted hill]

I love the idea of potentially more artificial(?) environment with plenty of human elements, seems like it could be an interesting survival experience from the animal POV

would also be interesting to find out if there are any named assets in the reserve, like individuals who just seem to survive or become infamous man eaters

[rough hollow]

Still waiting for that official document he's hopefully still writing.

[acoustic osprey]

the hope, for me at least, is that he doesn't release it properly

but horde it for himself as a final and untouchable lore bible for everything
of course... i don't want to say it... but once things are done, DONE, then he can finally translate almost everything (purposely almost everything) into proper tangible lore for us to digest, figure out and try to glue together for us to try and piece together that ultimate lore timeline document using our own words and such

but we'll see whatever happens, i do suppose!

i have faith
it probably is connected to why we haven't really seen any lore heavy things since legacy
probably

[rough hollow]

I agree. I'd rather not be granted the knowledge outright. Part of the fun is the hunt itself.

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

i need to send that one docks artwork that was just beautifully packed

[acoustic osprey]

the hunt... and the painful gluing of things on our end. Endless hours of putting 'theories' into the channel name!

almost like good ol times of ye olde legacy
but better, of course

[rough hollow]

No pain, no gain.

It'll be interesting to see how the lore is implemented into the map(s) and gameplay.

TLS is always on my mind when it comes to that.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scares-me-i-fear-no-man-gif-21507033

[rough hollow]

I'm a believer of TLS being a huge part in how people end up as a specific strain.

[acoustic osprey]

quite so, quite so

[acoustic osprey]

i just do hope the TLS has some sort of lore hints to it
rather than pure rng... but knowing what Don has said about rng... probably not as much as the lore hunts, maybe completely rng for TLS.

alas

[rough hollow]

Which I suppose negates the theory of it linking to strains, because in the past it's been implemented as a final reward in a sense.

Rewards usually come from hard work, which RNG has no correlation to.

In most cases anyway.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah true

i'm guessing strains'll likely just be something very very hard with long route to find them/get them

as if doing a lore hunt
but for yourself!

[rough hollow]

Yeah, and I mean we have those weird branches in the Mutation menu. Could be a hint towards things.

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

a bit like the broken DNA section in legacy
rest in peace affinity system...

||wouldn't've been surprised if affinity would've linked to strains though||

ah, it is sometimes a shame i get such fun from isle lore
The wait be waiting

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-valhalla-kratos-sit-on-chair-god-of-war-ragnarok-valhalla-gif-15825669449820971478

[rough hollow]

I liked the visual of that a lot more on Legacy's UI. How broken it looked.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
the design of it being inactive was very aesthetically themed

[muted hill]

Lore wise im super keen to find out why AE made the "mutated" (idk what else to call them) plants like the mendy's and arbour burst trees along with some pretty horrifying dinosaurs such as troodon who we know is a hybird and while I think of it how many of the dinosaurs are accurate to their in universe ancestors and how many recieved changes in when cloned in the labs

[brisk monolith]

WHEN Hordtesting

[rough hollow]

Idk why you're asking me, or in this channel in particular. Refer to Rule 10.

[brisk monolith]

you developer

[rough hollow]

No I'm not.

[fleet swan]

bout like may, maybe sooner

maybe later if they want more in it

[fleet swan]

@manic veldt

[manic veldt]

thats gonna be so much fun to play

[remote oyster]

Anyone god any theories as to why this chud was able to get SO BIG?!?!?

[civic pollen]

fish

[jagged glen]

Spinos are generally taller and slightly larger then rexes, but its probably not gonna weight or have that powerful of bite force

[sonic rampart]

That thing is definitely heavier than rex

[jagged glen]

For the isle probably lmao, I keep on forgetting this is a game and im over here talking about the real animals

[remote oyster]

was just about to argue about irl stuff lol, yeah I can agree

[acoustic osprey]

our best description from the devs about them is just 'strain plants'
but the actual lore documents on them...
would be something very interesting

[frozen totem]

What is the game plan here 😭

[remote oyster]

Idk man survive 💀

[jagged glen]

Dinosaur basketball

[eager grotto]

uhmm maybe this change a little, not much but maybe a little less heavier

[jagged glen]

I just realized that the rex and spino models are meshed together lmao

[languid escarp]

Oml me too I thought they were just next to one another xD

[acoustic osprey]

isle lore

[rough hollow]

ERRANT-291

[acoustic osprey]

why he heart stop worky 😔

[rough hollow]

🙁

I hope they take the time (when/if they ever have it) to make these so we can check them out in the terminal.

The meaning behind 291's name is pretty funny.

[acoustic osprey]

all he was doing was walking down after his SHIFT!!!

he isn't a bad guy, AE, i swear!!

[rough hollow]

How do we know AE is telling the truth?

What if they tied a loose end?

[acoustic osprey]

although a now old-ish quote (I should try and find the original though)
Don had a convo in here about not wanting to bring back one time/relatively small characters

albeit... something like the video log or autopsy would be amazing...

[acoustic osprey]

suddenly having the heart failing is quite suspicious

[rough hollow]

I agree. It can get really troublesome to do that when the lore is very much a 'grand scheme of things' kind of story from what I've gathered.

I think having incidents happen to specific characters like 291 could lead us into a specific direction in Apollo's general character and their intentions as an organisation.

Again, akin to A-SYNC.

[rough hollow]

That's what I'm sayin.

[acoustic osprey]

however, AE just seemingly writing it down also seems a bit odd
like it is such a sudden sort of death that is very obviously not right

which kinda makes me wonder why were only sweet teams made redundant? did they fail?
is this because one of the sweep teams do not return...?
||we do know that the 'marked redudant' section is talking about the two left over teams, when we match the few words able to be found once turning up the gamma on the pic||

[serene prawn]

how do i join a server in he game its saying data somthing idk how to fix

[rough hollow]

You'll want to ask in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧