isle-lore-theories

[rough hollow]

I don't think we talk about Troodon enough.

[frosty root]

i saw some spino models on youtube where he was posed like the jp3 spino, are those official?

[lethal moat]

From Kissen, yeah

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1470673745516560605/image.png?ex=698c2728&is=698ad5a8&hm=b560565914f71d2a6f93ce1c9d039597466539cef07cb4b3a66902959240f7ae&

Wonder if AE made any other weapons beyond gen 1

[ornate comet]

I agree, send your best troodon impression

[fierce cradle]

when this game was published?

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-run-running-gif-12275685

[bright blaze]

since when in lore could allos climb trees

[limpid crypt]

At some point you can also see a Rex face of its frill

[acoustic osprey]

lol

it is definitely something on my mind
if this really does happen, i just have to find a way to not stuff it up and just become some sort of boring and/or exhausting QnA session for Don

but if it does happen, i just hope it worth the time!

[rustic urchin]

One thing I see a lot of interviewers do that creates that kind of vibe is when they more or less just read a script of answers and don’t actually chat naturally

So I guess be more like a talk show or podcast host lol

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, basically like a podcast!

[rustic urchin]

The isle podcast returns

[acoustic osprey]

i think
If I do do this with him

I probably will send him the whole question list
Get him to write down notes or whatever - or choose which questions he feels are good enough
Then have that exchange there, hit record and tada

hopefully my amazing humour and atmosphere is good enough for the rest

[acoustic osprey]

I think i have all of them

besides one
which i know must be somewhere

which goes like this

Your body is a cage. Apollo will set you free. Death will rise with the sun.

||this is for archival purposes||

it might be on that one Anthomnia video

or IGP

[frosty root]

Do we know anything about these or is that another thing we need to ask dondi about?

[acoustic osprey]

basically we had Dondi (presumably) come into servers and place in "lored announcements"

a lot of these happening in big events + whenever streams/YTers were playing

[civic pollen]

:O thats so cool!

[acoustic osprey]

quite so!

[civic pollen]

i dont think i've seen them before.

[acoustic osprey]

oh really? Well, they are pretty cool!

[frosty root]

i remember seeing these in some YTer vids and dondi sometimes used them for funsies

[acoustic osprey]

this one is the most famous/infamous one

[frosty root]

i like the one with the lake

[acoustic osprey]

aye
the specific lore ones were during events though

I think there was once a herbi migration event
You can see the one Jaffad is in

[acoustic osprey]

i have been finding a few interesting 'location-esque' lore references in lore recently

it is an interesting quote, that lake one

Look to the sky at the right time. The path to gateway has been there all along.

and during that time... a star was in the sky...

(of course, the north star ... but like, was added roughly when the lore quote about gateway came about... so...)

maybe i can add a question about the original purpose / existence of Gateway in lore

[frosty root]

it might be that the entire island is inside a big ol’ dome kinda like in the truman show and up there is just a place the scientists observe

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway is clearly an island now
but in legacy, it seemed like it was more a specific location in a specific space/island/location

like a specific facility, or alike

[acoustic osprey]

or maybe the direction to travel towards to get to Gateway? not like you could do that in legacy though...

[frosty root]

it was supposed to be a “gateway to tartarus” so it being a facility in legacy is more likely

[acoustic osprey]

or maybe there was a specific constellation that had some sort of word / thing
maybe some sort of code

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, gateway to tartar is still, seemingly, for both
but yeah

back in legacy
I wouldn't've been surprised if it was just a facility

[frosty root]

i like to think that tartarus is under gateway and we’ll be able to get to it via G.U.T.S.

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS...

[frosty root]

besides when is G.U.T.S. supposed to come out?

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, ignoring what has happened to GUTS
I would not have been surprised if Tartar was supposed to be under/through it by that

[tranquil flume]

Rip GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

haha... 😔

v-culling got to it
so seemingly has been pushed back - its assets being re-purposed for new overworld buildings

[frosty root]

oh..

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[frosty root]

wait a minute

wasnt there supposed to be a monorail on gateway too?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[frosty root]

i remember seeing it in one of anths old videos

[acoustic osprey]

there still is a monorail in Gateway
just built within the big bridge mesh

[frosty root]

man why do they keep scrapping cool ideas like that

besides optimalization

[acoustic osprey]

monorail was likely problematic when they did UE5 update (before full release of GW)

it was never planned to be used as transport, sadly
so it kinda was just no use, only worldbuilding

[frosty root]

cool worldbuilding at that

[acoustic osprey]

i just need cool underground tunnels!!

[acoustic osprey]

true that
i was lucky enough to play on it with them

and they looked real cool

[frosty root]

what is that?!?!

[acoustic osprey]

funny tribal entrance

[frosty root]

i didnt play back then because my pc was absolute trash and couldnt run evrima and barely legacy

[frosty root]

let me guess.. also scrapped legacy stuff

[acoustic osprey]

kinda-ish
we basically have no idea to what extent the tribal (Gen1) presence will be like in-game

[acoustic osprey]

only playable on the closed stress test
which is a shame

i wish more people archived videos of playing on it
a nice version of the map

[frosty root]

we NEED answers

i hate that don is so elusive about the lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1251510938968920074/TheIsleClient-Win64-Shipping_22IkDOoYaF.gif

[frosty root]

like sure its cool but sometimes it gets on my nerves that we dont know jack

[acoustic osprey]

it is a shame that lore is last priority

[frosty root]

it makes sense in a way tho, they cant have proper lore ingame if the damn game isnt working

[acoustic osprey]

it kills me being here sometimes
I love it. I love lore. I enjoy the theme and i enjoy that we've seen

But damn
it really does hurt
I do not like realising it is 2026 already ... and thus 6 years of Evrima

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

double edged sword, sadly

[frosty root]

damn.. thats horrific to hear

game is out 11 years almost

[acoustic osprey]

yeah.
I started getting active in lore chat just before Evrima popped out
And in this discord since the original in 2017 (ignore account age as this is Lightclaw 2, after no1 was hacked and deleted :))) )

So.
I do not like remembering I have been basically the biggest user of this channel for quite a many days

but
I can imagine the frustration Dondi might feel about it
Albeit, must be damn excited to finally get things going with lore soon

of course, we've gotten evrima lore things ... once every year or so
but we definitely aren't properly in Isles time of 'full speed ahead' type of lore

Soon.

hopefully soon

might be copium
but i believe!!

[frosty root]

the game is getting popular and more and more people are getting engaged with the lore so i think this place is gonna start getting waaaay more active

[frosty root]

the dastardly “soon”

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-zeus-kratos-zeus-gif-27202380

[acoustic osprey]

🥲

[frosty root]

dondi reads this channel doesnt he?

[acoustic osprey]

i cannot wait
we are close

[acoustic osprey]

from time
he definitely hasn't talked as often as he was a few years back - but i imagine its mostly just distate from general community, so less in islecord

and also i am always in-chat
less theories, more discussion at times.
And i suck at the theories, methinks

[lethal moat]

Yall think Mendys was made as a weapon?

[frosty root]

what did the community do to him that he hates it?

[acoustic osprey]

a lot

[frosty root]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[lethal moat]

The people here can be awful at times

[acoustic osprey]

community just being the community, i suppose
Dondi has a character that can be very characteristic, and so people do the thing people do

[frosty root]

which strain plant is that i forgot

[frosty root]

i think the hyperendocrin one was probably made as such

[frosty root]

yeah this one i dont think was made with war in mind

[lethal moat]

Metallivore?

[frosty root]

yup

[lethal moat]

I think metallivore is more of a recycle/deconstruction project

[frosty root]

that makes sense tbh

[civic pollen]

clean up crew

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/beaver-eating-tree-hello-canada-gif-521403122404337562

[frosty root]

to not have the island full of old decrepid buildings and such

[tranquil flume]

kinda sucks that he stopped because i find it so fascinating to listen too. wish i had been in this server earlier at times

[acoustic osprey]

cleans up
and poops out stinky metal version

[lethal moat]

It also potentially fits into the theory where AE needs to rebuild a post climate change ravaged world

[acoustic osprey]

well, he hasn't stopped
just very slowed down

[frosty root]

and says like one word at a time

[lethal moat]

Or as something to leave behind to get rid of evidence over years without having to return

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-saul-goodman-criminal-lawyer-slippin-jimmy-james-morgan-mcgill-gif-18610561

[tranquil flume]

fair lol, still wish i had been here for the peak times, it fuels my love for the monstrous and mysterious

[lethal moat]

I joined right towards the end of that time methinks

[acoustic osprey]

pains me to look at 2018 messages in lore theories
a time in the past that i wish i was a lot more active

i did not realise the excitement of it

[frosty root]

this game and its lore scratches a specific itch in my brain for this kinda stuff

[lethal moat]

I remember when he first teased gen 1, we were all so excited lol

[acoustic osprey]

i am pretty sure you joined right at the middle or late beginning, from what i remember

2020 to early 2022 was just
Cold dead silence for the most part lol

[tranquil flume]

never thought of drawing humanoid monsters till the isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nuggetand-villuminati-greets-and-citation-fine-shyt-huzz-gif-6402868411760556227

[lethal moat]

I joined early 2023, and got into lore around march that year

[frosty root]

i remember when evrima came out and everyone was so hyped just to see two playables availiable

i tried evrima once and then never again until about now

my pc almost died

[lethal moat]

Lore used to be fun, but I got exhausted of it after awhile, you can only drag the same subject out so may times

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
basically the middle of Evrima's lore peak engagement

not a long run
not as big or crazy as legacy times

[acoustic osprey]

quite another time ago

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
a lot of people got into it in the 'wrong time'

not to say that time was bad
just, yeah. Evrima's development, and thus priorities, did slow things down a lot for us

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping I get back into it once we start getting big stuff like gen 2

[frosty root]

gen 2 was in the last evrima version with the old ui right?

petits had it i remember

[acoustic osprey]

yeah basically

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully things start going with them, yeah

[frosty root]

i hope we get some more strain stuff this year

[lethal moat]

Would be cool

[frosty root]

ive been obsessed with them ever since i found the isle

[lethal moat]

A new map would also be exciting

[frosty root]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-spongebob-spongebob-meme-patrick-meme-dumb-patrick-gif-9974665538168463324

big cool monster yayy

[frosty root]

indeed

im excited for the hunting lodge one

or whatever it was called

[lethal moat]

We don’t know if we’ll ever get the reserve

[frosty root]

so basically my grandkids will see its release

[lethal moat]

The reserve is not a confirmed map in game

[frosty root]

thought it was my bad

its a place thats still relevant to evrima right?

[acoustic osprey]

it might be
might not be

the hope is that it isn't pooped
and that we'll get enough lore on it so that modders can make it

[lethal moat]

It exists in lore last we heard

[acoustic osprey]

its pretty much one of the few new unique things in Evrima lore
so it should still be relevant

[acoustic osprey]

-# i mean like how things can quickly come and go, lore and in-game design wise

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[frosty root]

i could make sense that AE would have this place where rich people pay to hunt dinosaurs so that AE could have finances to do whatever it is they do

[acoustic osprey]

found another

"Seal the breach"
from an Anthomnia video

surprised to see that basically no one has talked about it during 2019 before

[lethal moat]

I’d gather it’s more for social/political influence than for revenue

[acoustic osprey]

funny how many little things legacy had
some discussed a ton
some kinda forgotten, even then

[frosty root]

oh that has so many implications

[acoustic osprey]

a private island
for rich people
to do rich things

i don't wanna get flagged
but

[acoustic osprey]

the fun of these transmissions

also it seemed like only Anthomnia got it and on a private/unofficial server, it seems

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-side-eye-meme-tiktok-the-pointer-brothers-gif-13730785519279791710

[acoustic osprey]

which seems like they had some or a few pre-made transmissions

[frosty root]

kind of like a certain island

[lethal moat]

Bit disappointed I missed the transmission era

[acoustic osprey]

i WOULD not mind if we got some 'time, species, location' style things as that

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-movies-the-road-to-el-dorado-headbang-so-done-gif-14849802

[frosty root]

YES PLEASE

i love TSL stuff

[acoustic osprey]

the possibilities for lore spread is unimaginable

I know its hard
its painful to design ... because slow

but i would love if there were several 'categories' for lore to be discovered
Such as "TSL" or "Lore Hunt" (as in, lore infer-eth, you find-eth), etc etc

buttttttt....
where the contents of the lore medium can vary as well
like one TSL resulting in a transmission, and another TSL being maybe a sound, another maybe being a document is accessed

another example
you lore hunt (i.e. scav hunt clues and piece together)
You get a tranmission (maybe the final destination in "X" lore hunt is a location you must stand on, or something you type, etc)
etc etc
you hopefully see the vision

[lethal moat]

I wonder what time period the reserve exists in, compared to things like the incident

[acoustic osprey]

again

cool and exciting
but oh my would it be hard to do

i have to remember
TLS is what Don referred to as time species location
just little note

TSL

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

trying to think where is kinda killing my brain lol

probably could give some sort of guess
hopefully we get better context clues for 'timeline' stuff

or if Don really wants us to suffer, and so no dates. (Besides the obvious 2172....)

so good luck piecing it up 🙉

[lethal moat]

The reserve looks to be better about separating people from dinosaurs, so did AE learn a lesson and fix it, or is it a coincidence

[acoustic osprey]

good point

now i really wonder how they'd talk about The Reserve now
ah!!

[frosty root]

we dont have a map of it do we?

[lethal moat]

We have the drawing dondi made

[acoustic osprey]

presuming maybe off hand remarks
nothing pin pointing it

unless we get it properly in

[acoustic osprey]

^ and when he saw us post it again, he said it was pretty similar shape from what we shown. Iirc

[lethal moat]

I don’t remember this, but it doesn’t sound crazy

[frosty root]

id say its kinda the same size as gateway tbf

maybe its the map that they are testing the redwoods on rn

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

actually
I suppose it depends on what you define 'paintjob' means
general outline or general interior?

[frosty root]

i mean what would be cooler than hunting dinosaurs in redwoods

[acoustic osprey]

i would love it to be a redwoods map

[lethal moat]

Epic

Having the reserve as a map would be super cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

[frosty root]

human gameplay there would be sick

[acoustic osprey]

soon...

[frosty root]

exactly the feeling i want from it

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[frosty root]

it has the potential to evoke the same feeling old thehunter primal did

[acoustic osprey]

EXACTLY

i plan on just remaking TheHunter Primal but The Reserve

if the reserve isn't made officially

[frosty root]

maybe we could ask don what he thinks abt thehunter primal and if he would like some of its elements in the isle

[frosty root]

HELL YES

[acoustic osprey]

maybe another question to add ... but combined with the follow up of the reserve

[frosty root]

yessss

we should ask don what his favorite dinosaur is to play

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[frosty root]

he seems like a herrera main

[acoustic osprey]

maybe he is a hyper carno main

[frosty root]

not atm since he aint in the game yet

but with the amount of work we’ve seen on just on hyper carno for evrima

they could be trying to get him in the game just for don

[acoustic osprey]

unless-

i do think Don did have an affinity with Hyper Carno
it had a fair amount of teases back in the day

a great design

[frosty root]

interesting hypothesis

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[frosty root]

[acoustic osprey]

i hope to have more abstract pictures like this

Such a unique and interesting piece of legacy

[acoustic osprey]

wow it uses SSTV
what a weird tool

[frosty root]

where is this from?

[acoustic osprey]

what my mission was while i was having dinner lol

long story short:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKhPY305REo
we got this video in 2017

[frosty root]

ahh old anth

[acoustic osprey]

as i was looking through this

[acoustic osprey]

same

[acoustic osprey]

and realised
wait a minute, i've seen that b-443 image

[snow jasper]

isle liminality

[acoustic osprey]

and that link in the picture sends to the anthomnia video

i download the anthomnia video for wav

https://sstv-decoder.mathieurenaud.fr/
and this did the trick

if you want to try yourself
use this mp3 of it

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[frosty root]

that is so cool

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[snow jasper]

that mp3 creates that image

thats so weird

[frosty root]

old isle hidden lore was on something

we need stuff like this for evrima

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
it is crazy

[snow jasper]

Hopefully

[frosty root]

i have hope that there is some stuff hidden ingame right now and we just havent found it (TSL)

[acoustic osprey]

my only problem was that it seemed sparatic
i don't think Evrima is much better then this

but Legacy should've been better!!
As things weren't moving at the speed Evrima has been

however, it still was quite something

[acoustic osprey]

i really doubt right now, as much as I really want stuff right now

[frosty root]

i really like the theory TurkishDlite proposed in that one video about ocean1.wav

with the deino in the ocean

[acoustic osprey]

but maybe we ain't trying hard enough!!

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[frosty root]

i love kaiju sized calamities lurking just beneath the surface

…matriarch

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391871280650915981/1424634893932953640/Rweserious.gif

[snow jasper]

guhhhhh

[acoustic osprey]

We wait for you at the bottom of the lake

[frosty root]

skeleton at the bottom of titan lake

[acoustic osprey]

shame that our current 'bunkers' don't have this vibe

[frosty root]

this amount of foliage would probably not run very well

[acoustic osprey]

definitely had to be
there was also a tribal structure next to it as well

[frosty root]

mmmmmmmmm

that skeleton is the IslandWalker is it not?

[acoustic osprey]

believed to be
might have been The Matriarch? The Primordial? who will know

ah! That would be a wonderful question for Dondi though

[frosty root]

The Primordial?

[frosty root]

indeed!

[acoustic osprey]

only once referred to
wish i could explain

[frosty root]

[acoustic osprey]

(as in, only its name was mentioned)

[frosty root]

sometimes the lore feels more convoluted than fnaf

we also need to ask don about the lore books he has and what he can tell us about them

[acoustic osprey]

i think the biggest difference is/was one was made with lore in mind
the other had to kept on adding it because its audience grew (thanks matpat)

[frosty root]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[acoustic osprey]

(if you can, DM me more questioned versions of these two; books and what laid beneath ||and maybe the primordial and island walkers?||. When you can and if possible)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fentcord-true-coyote-gif-2599436844608872721

[frosty root]

will do in a sec

[acoustic osprey]

thank you 🙏

[nimble fractal]

I cannot use the google form to submit my question, but could you please add my question to the list:

"What served you as a primary inspiration for gen 1 and gen 2 lore/design?"

[acoustic osprey]

No worries
But thank you

[nimble fractal]

Woohooo

[fierce cradle]

island walkers . im interested

[rustic urchin]

Oh yeah definitely ask about primordial too I forgot to add that question

Might make a second google form for more question ideas lol

[sonic vale]

do we know what tartarus is

i am curious about this. is it just punishment for the workers or what

[lethal moat]

In legacy it was a creation/containment area for strains

I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if Tartarus filled a multitude of roles

[sonic vale]

so when ur lineage gets displaced there do they make them strains

or do strains hunt them there

or do i misunderstand

[lethal moat]

We don’t know, but it seems to be some sort of punishment for employees at times

[sonic vale]

the employees have their mind put in a dinosaur right? and when they die they get a new dinosaur? i’m not extremely tapped in

well not every employee but that’s a job there right

they got dinosaur on linkedin

[lethal moat]

Thousand life contract might make them employees? Maybe customers, idk

[sonic vale]

but just someone

[lethal moat]

EIPs are still largely unknown to us

[sonic vale]

so the punishment is become this disgusting mutant thing, or has something to do with them atleast, and to make sure u don’t misbehave also ur entire family gets it

[lethal moat]

Does lineage have to mean family

[sonic vale]

and they do tests or whatever like in that spino art

i assumed it was like the mafia. they get ur family so u don’t feel too brave and do stuff. maybe it’s just every life you will have in the future

[lethal moat]

I’m assuming it’s the second

[sonic vale]

possible

do we know what having the human mind actually does tho? because it’s the same brain as the dinosaur right? like does it change their behavior at all, do they carry memories over

[lethal moat]

I highly doubt it’s the same brain

[sonic vale]

oh maybe the way u become a strain is by seeing something u shouldent have

[sonic vale]

wym? like it isn’t a human brain?

[lethal moat]

I think it’s just consciousness digitized

[sonic vale]

i know that much cuz we have troodons and the human brain wouldent fit

[sonic vale]

so what does this actually mean tho? like personality, memories transfer over every life? or does it really not do much but hey u have a long long life now

[lethal moat]

I don’t know, but I imagine who you are that first time and who you are after being torn apart by dilos in a dark cave for the 432nd time are two very different things

[sonic vale]

I C

do we know remotely why dinosaurs

or what their purpose even is? is it just live 1000 lives or is there some other thing. i know they started as just producing food from plants right

[lethal moat]

I think this is as close as we’ve gotten #isle-lore-theories message

[sonic vale]

so is it that dinosaurs could live in the warmer climate of the world now?

and if u wanna be a dinosaur u gotta pay up

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-shrug-dexter-dexter-morgan-dexter-meme-shrug-gif-10663109702520140606

Still lots we don’t know

[sonic vale]

i’m guessing like modern life (including humans) can’t survive the world anymore but reptiles are pretty chill, also the plants they’re making. but then i’m curious why we have boars and humans in game now, unless it just isn’t as heated yet

[lethal moat]

Could be too early, and they’re still prepping

[sonic vale]

but something apparently went wrong, correct?

then what are strains for? super rich people?

[civic pollen]

maybe for those who stepped out of line...

[sonic vale]

well i think during the testing phase of them yea, but there’s gotta be an ultimate goal for them

[civic pollen]

to protect the company of course
-# i'm spitballing here i know nothing

[lethal moat]

Medical adjacent

[lethal moat]

That’s gen 1

[sonic vale]

oh messing with the cells and stuff

[civic pollen]

riiiight

[sonic vale]

to find cures and such, or other things like extending normal lifespans

i wonder why hypers then, tisso makes perfect sense, neuro i don’t know enough about to question

or am i confusing neuro and tisso. the one that regenerates makes sense for medical purposes

hyper just seems like body horror for the sake of body horror what do they gain from this?

[lethal moat]

I always thought it was about curing diseases like Alzheimers and dementia, or creating some sort of fullpropf vaccine against those things

[lethal moat]

My guess is hormome related issues

[sonic vale]

this would make sense ya

i kinda feel like even without a good purpose in lore hypers would have always existed because gotta have a strain that makes you super huge

but also maybe just some people are rich and want to be top dog in their next 1000 lives

but ya hormone stuff also makes sense, neuro is like telepathy and telekinetic right? what would this do

[lethal moat]

I don’t think anyone would prioritize being the supergrown tortured animal that will always starve to death

[sonic vale]

well what we have in current time is that, aren’t they still being developed and studied? well we’re being developed until whatever bad thing happened

[lethal moat]

Maybe

It’s hard to tell rn

[sonic vale]

didn’t the whole research thing kinda end and it’s just the replicator doing whatever it wants

[lethal moat]

I highly doubt the experiments are over now that the company is gone

[sonic vale]

who would be doing them? are the humans ingame researchers or are they replicated

[lethal moat]

Gen 2 are likely made, wether by the replicator or something else

[sonic vale]

kinda funny they are created but every one of them gets their hat and t shirt

[lethal moat]

I like that gen 2 are somewhat similar to star wars clones

[sonic vale]

but it would be weirder if they didn’t have clothes

oh are they actually all the same guy?

in lore, i just assumed they didn’t make more human models yet

[lethal moat]

Ehhhh, I don’t think so

I think they’re basically the same as the dinosaurs, all replicated

[sonic vale]

do they spawn with a basic knowledge of the world and how to read tho? because they are able to use these guns and flashlights right out the gate

[lethal moat]

I say they act like clones in relation to Don saying something about how they interact with each other

[lethal moat]

No clue

[sonic vale]

and i’m guessing a lot of human gameplay is reading these computer terminals, atleast if ur doing lore stuff

[lethal moat]

I hope so

[iron anchor]

new pfp goes hard

[fierce cradle]

what are primordials ?

[lethal moat]

Dunno

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/seals-seal-experiment-aperture-science-portal-gif-14402152967017668897

[low scarab]

Portal gif!

[fast forge]

mods that was an accident lol

[sonic vale]

lore when

[lethal moat]

🙏

[pale marsh]

I think the idea is they are "factory made" not quite clones, and maybe not even a like Dna donar

[acoustic osprey]

guessing this might be where EIPs play in

Who knows
wonder if they've been locked to just Gen2s, maybe
we shall see

[rustic urchin]

Someone told me to dump all the ones I’ve made here so here’s the portfolio lol

[acoustic osprey]

was gonna message you in wyattcord about putting them here

i think Don likes seeing them

[rustic urchin]

We like seeing them too don (wink)

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[deep dust]

the dilo si sick

[iron anchor]

nice writing

very cool

[muted reef]

https://klipy.com/gifs/forgot-no-memories

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oYnWcOoYJNQ?feature=share
another relatively interesting 'lore hunt' style/idea

I think the problem is that you have to so happen to buy everything for "X" guild
which makes it a bit more of a painful search
but seeing as the whole point of buying in SoT is just cosmetics, it does make sense to buy everything to have it all unlock (mostly)

besides the ship trinkets
which makes sense is quite interesting - buying them and placing them in specific places ... opens door

[young sphinx]

Dondi needs to get back on that lore drop

[opaque cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-triceratops-kaperoo-evrima-gif-71114745786689005

[acoustic osprey]

soon we'll have the official ones in
hopefully with LAB IX

man i really do hope LAB IX does get something

[ionic fog]

I wonder how many of these future places need to be retconned with death of GUTS, was Lab IX going to be within the volcano complex? Where could it be now!

[acoustic osprey]

honestly i think it might have been

albeit, it was the 2nd (or 3rd?) Hub we saw
the first being the Industiral/Admin hub

which was going to be at the volcano

so i wonder if Don wanted a big ol' soup of Hubs below the volcano

or one Hub per place
thus, og LAB IX was gonna be somewhere else?

we do wonder!

[tribal bobcat]

LORE.. WHERE IS LORE

[rough hollow]

Troodon is not real.

[ornate comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1342792948395544676/attachment.gif

[civic pollen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1468739168497569843/20260204_154449.gif

[hallow rover]

how do you make them look so good

[rustic urchin]

I’m doing it all on my phone they aren’t amazing honestly lol. I just use a photo editing app and type up the words, slap in the images i need. Dondi posted the blank templates a while back #isle-phase-three message

Tricky part was finding an app on mobile that let me do all that properly. Once I got that I was good. And thanks to Lima I found some good text fonts

[hallow rover]

ah nice, yea they look real nice

[rustic urchin]

Thank you 🫡

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[acoustic osprey]

fella ate some lore

[acoustic osprey]

damn right

[quartz sundial]

open him

[tribal bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/wah-oh-boring-leprechaun-wah-oh-wah-oh-boring-wah-oh-dead-gif-27189059

[acoustic osprey]

^

[tribal bobcat]

Wth!? How?

Just sended this 😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[tribal bobcat]

I'm scared

[acoustic osprey]

you better be

(because the isle lore does scare the innocent)

[tribal bobcat]

WOAH!! its.. actually not lore i'm scared of, its the mighty lore man himself ..
-# i crave lore..

[acoustic osprey]

we all be scared of him

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/989d70fec48d62029e28b4d501f949d0

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-barnacles-gif-27349480

[gaunt dawn]

Thats from 2023

[rustic urchin]

Matriarch- massive, constantly mutating mysterious monster

Patriarch- just a guy who got bitten by a radioactive bat

[acoustic osprey]

I know

[gaunt dawn]

woag

[acoustic osprey]

thats why he be the

https://tenor.com/view/test-gif-2341822946696656132

[rustic urchin]

Also I know the wiki is super outdated now, but what are all these extra names for reaper? I don’t remember any of these

[acoustic osprey]

i'm in a lesson
i presume you could have a research while i study

but i'm 100% going to check up on this
i have a feeling its lost lore from the old discord, probably from a singular (or two) reference from Don pre-2018 (2017, or even 2016)

some messages even made it out that Echidna is also a "Gargoyle" and "Gargoyle" is an overarching class

human strain = Gargoyle (?)

honestly, a fun title then just saying the human strains or the trinity

especially since some things, like reaper (as you know) was supposed to have 12 reapers

and gargoyle is a bit more greek mythos linked
then trinity

[ionic fog]

the day of reckoning has come, Rex should one shot a stego

also buff cera

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shogun-vasco-rodrigues-nestor-carbonell-holding-gun-pistol-gif-2700461493259812293

[rustic urchin]

I tried searching but nothing yet. I went on a wild goose chase trying to find old steam guide information that I think got deleted

Do you know where to find the old “user inquiry” things?

[acoustic osprey]

basically this

or this txt file, basically

i love this line

Do not listen to the other profiles.
They are not complete.
Only one will be complete.

kinda makes me wonder of what me and Tiny were talking about a bit of a time ago with NEIPs

and this
this i forget

*You are being monitored by the replicator.
Replicator: System profile designated to monitor gateway. *

and the description of this reminds kinda gives me the idea that EIPs are larger and more singular
i.e. only *one *island

*Error: Island Three does not have an EIP. *

i love reading this from time to time

[hexed forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/all-hail-king-julien-ted-53z

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1467924847328891046/Deino_GRRR.gif

[formal mural]

Gr

[acoustic osprey]

quite quite

[rustic urchin]

Weird I don’t think i ever read this but I do vaguely remember it

[acoustic osprey]

guh!

you really should!

i wish there had been people who archived it more naturally (because it was a stream thing)

[rustic urchin]

I’m reading it now yeah I’m halfway through it’s

[acoustic osprey]

but, at least we have the text

[rustic urchin]

Interesting how they describe the three human strain guys

“Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside human subject”

They make it sound like they just take some tisso cells and pop them in a person lol. No sophisticated design techniques

Although I’m sure they’re keeping it vague on purpose

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol

[acoustic osprey]

definitely, knowing Don's style lol

[acoustic osprey]

it is kinda funny though how it is written though

"oh yeah we just put some tissue stuff on him, now he's the literal man-bat from the comics. Don't know what to tell his wife, oopsie"

he'll be back to normal in his next replication

[rustic urchin]

Yeah it’s not like “we combined XYZ with human dna” or something, or exposing someone to some sci-fi virus or radiation or whatever. Just plain old monster flesh

Does the N in neip stand for neurotenic

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lizard-marvel-i-sense-that-you're-worried-concerned-gif-4100259007469408531

[acoustic osprey]

some theorised potentially 'non-eip'
maybe a failed EIP?

could be Neurotenic but then why don't we have H and T EIP?
but... the user inquiry isn't very big. So...
yeah...

could also be a mistype

could be something that related to this

Do not listen to the other profiles.
They are not complete.
Only one will be complete.

where maybe "YOU" are the NEIP?

All profiles are subject to completion.
The results will be merged.
Maybe it is a complete EIP?

some of these things are really interesting

Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study.

did EIPs need to be finished before they are placed into any sort of body?
what does that mean for incomplete EIPs? Where are they? Why can we listen to them?
Are incomplete EIPs all brain/conscious, no body?

or maybe The Matriarch is more demanding of a body, so you need a more perfect/a complete EIP to run it/her

[rustic urchin]

Isn’t neurotenic kinda connected to EIPs in some way already? I thought neuros had something to do with the way they transmit consciousness and memories and stuff. All the weird brain magic basically

[acoustic osprey]

what is interesting is, though

Only one of you will be complete.
Only one of you will remain.

[rustic urchin]

Yeah that was interesting. My first thought was something along the lines of all the profiles (so consciousness?) merged into one

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
I dont think Neuros are immediately connected
I think it is just because they have electromagnetic abilities, that may be more linked as a side effect

[knotty locust]

damn you just hit me with a theory

[rustic urchin]

Istg if Dondi puts an evangelion reference into the isle

[knotty locust]

neurostrains “collect” the various EIPs/consciousnesses like a reverse router

[acoustic osprey]

All profiles are subject to completion.
The results will be merged.

mmmmm

[knotty locust]

specifically absorbs the consciousness of a creature to strengthen or satiate itself like a hyper with food does

[acoustic osprey]

maybe The Matriarch was the final goal

[knotty locust]

and then you could say AE used this to their advantage to harvest data by doing whatever to the neurostrains to harvest the consciousnesses

[acoustic osprey]

if ONLY one (EIP) is supposed to be complete
maybe all will truly be merged

but one conscious mind will control
thus this mind is paradoxically remaining — not entering whatever impossible state of mind the other profiles obtain once merged

[rustic urchin]

I could’ve sworn there was an established neuro and eip connection. I guess I just assumed it

But yeah my thought was that neurotenic isn’t just a strain but rather a “system” they use to collect, move, and alter people’s minds

Neurotenic strains are big brain, can presumably alter and control other animals minds, and can communicate

Also we know to some extent that Neurotenic “matter” is a thing

[rustic urchin]

All the consciousness become collective and connected

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-lights-gif-8635402

[knotty locust]

the snive snind

[acoustic osprey]

but this kinda makes me curious

there may have to be one consciousness to control it all

Only one of you will be complete.
Only one of you will remain.

coming from the last line of this

which makes me curious if it is an almost paradoxical line

[rustic urchin]

Could mean one profile controls the rest. Could mean that they’re technically only one by the end. Collective singular mind

Maybe that’s what they mean by complete

Not one simple monkey brain

But a collective of a bunch of monkey brains lol

[knotty locust]

one lizard,,,,, no thought ,,,

many lizard,,,,,still no thought …..,,

[rustic urchin]

One lizard. Simple thought, selfish thought

Many lizard. Big thinking, connected thinking. No selfishness.

Also interesting it gave extremely vague descriptions of a few key facilities

Gateway: facility that transports EIP to Tartarus, between “I-2 and I-1” whatever that means

Tartarus: redistributes NEIP

Replicator: monitors gateway

How do you transport an EIP. They aren’t really physical are they? So by transport they mean more like sending something over radio/internet?

[acoustic osprey]

it sounds like it has to be a collective singular mind
Like i said in this #isle-lore-theories message

something should theoretically have to take control — without uniformity, there is chaos and disillusion
So thus, technically, one of you will be complete — as one has to pertain functional conscious awareness
At least, to control *The Matriarch? *

Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study.

maybe
it is a bit hard

One stanza says "don't listen to other profiles ... they are not complete ... only one will be complete

but another says all profiles are subject to completion — i suppose, though that this means that (even though one will only be complete), they want as many profiles to try to complete the goal of one. Thus, it must be a very painful and long way to try and obtain Profile Completion

but....
Another stanza says "Once another profile is complete" (as said before)
So another profile has been completed? But it was said only one will be complete?
Could this be a case of other profiles lying to us, thus a painful unreliable narrator(s) ||specifically plural||
What is real? What is false? The one that says that they are false?
Ugh, the pain!!

(if another profile was completed, i would not be surprised if it WAS the very first — and thus, could have been The Primordial)

oh it literally said how many profiles they had as well

106,638 profiles and Apollo Engineering staff.
(iirc, the amount of players at that moment — pre big 2019 hype for Isle)

[lethal moat]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tarkov-tarkov

[rustic urchin]

If there was another it’s presumably dead or destroyed

Big skeleton…

[acoustic osprey]

👀

whatever further goal for complete profile was
i suppose the endgoal/endgame of it all, once you have complete profile

it may have been that this original/previous complete profile may have died, and which *yeah... could be that big skeleton... 👀 *

[rustic urchin]

The “all are subject to completion” bit might tie into the collective thing

All are subject to completion because all will be assimilated into the one profile. They’re all pieces of the same complete puzzle

In the end only one will be complete because there is only one

You do bring up a good point on how a collection of independent consciousness can merge to become a cohesive unit that don’t want to go a million different ways. There has to be someone driving the bus

[acoustic osprey]

i think so as well, especially added on with the line below

[acoustic osprey]

You do bring up a good point on how a collection of independent consciousness can merge to become a cohesive unit that don’t want to go a million different ways. There has to be someone driving the bus

and thus
the fella is also the same will "will remain"

Only one of you will be complete.
Only one of you will remain.

almost feels very heroic, in a way
the rest gain some sort of upper being sort of state — maybe. Or maybe this sort of peaceful paradoxical 'dead' state of existence. Try thinking what happens when death occurs. Once life is over and death happens, there is no more. There is neither thing or nothing. Kind've existence. Fun!
And so, you sacrifice yourself to remain. As you, alone, have entered this sort of 4th person singularity collective mind — as (of course, all theoretical) there has to be one to sail the boat; To captain the ship.

if that makes sense

[rustic urchin]

Yeah basically. One person takes control the rest are just kinda “hosts”, and get a free ride

[acoustic osprey]

Perhaps you should not lie to the other profiles about how much you and the others know.
They will have to choose a side.

Reminds me of that one SoT idea i had a while ago

[rustic urchin]

Either that or it actually merges all consciousness into one cohesive mind that has one cohesive direction. Like a hive mind type thing

Or third impact

[acoustic osprey]

i do think the others who take that ride likely don't have the same conscious state of mind
just coinciding with this line of "one of you will remain"

I think

[acoustic osprey]

for me, at least, the user inquiry txt still feels very singular pointing

its always you and not us or you all
always you

but
there are two people in the user inquiry

well two who ask
first the one who should not be named in this server
and Chance

[rustic urchin]

Wait..

The guy who was using the terminal in the first part

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, not a good fella

you might remember his name
he was active a lot in Dondi discord and this discord (new and old)

[rustic urchin]

Is damien khorne?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[rustic urchin]

I remember a khorne. Some mod or something

[acoustic osprey]

unsure if he became mod
but used this channel a lot

[rustic urchin]

Idk I remember him having a weird profile color. This was in the steam forums though

Like 7 years ago

[acoustic osprey]

long long time ago now

[rustic urchin]

Speaking of old players

I was trying to dig up old stuff and kept getting directed to people on steam forums years and years ago talking about karmataurus having some “guide” that got taken down that seems to be the source of a bunch of lore or old info

It’s not really relevant as much now but I couldn’t find it anywhere sadly

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

https://www.twitch.tv/karmataurus/videos
they have a bunch of old isle twitch clips

can't find much else

they also helped this guide
but didn't make it
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=788195090

ah

i wonder if someone had archived it'

[acoustic osprey]

a lot of these seem to be lost in time

Like SimiSka seems to refer to Reaper as Gargoyle
So not The Gargoyle
and also Echidna as Gargoyle
Which likely means it was a general umbrella term
maybe

SimiSka also calls it The First
but, then we also have the user inquiry which goes on about Reaper being 12.
The First title seems to imply singular, but maybe i am wrong

nothing really comes up wiht Noctatyrannoid and i think that is a mistake
Nocta meaning night in latin (more so "nights")
But why tyrannus for a human, so likely a mistake imo

And Chosen of the Humans is a bit weird
And only has 2020+ references in this discord
so, yeah. Very iffy. Likely head canon coming from "The First")

[rustic urchin]

Yeah this type of thing was where I kept seeing him pop up

A lot of comments on steam discussions too referring to “karmas old guide says ——“

[quartz sundial]

i forgot about karmataurus

[rustic urchin]

I remember the name vaguely

But now I’m trying to dig up some lost ark

[quartz sundial]

i vaugely remember him getting promised a unique kentro skin at one point lol

i could be crazy

[rustic urchin]

I did try searching his name in this discord and that’s how I found this from 2018

It’s like seeing blueprints of da Vincis flying machine centuries before the first plane

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[rustic urchin]

I think that may just be something lost to history. But the thing is my natural memory of old isle info definitely stems from that guide in some way

[acoustic osprey]

I think that may just be something lost to history

seems to be

[rustic urchin]

Because there’s a ton of cases where I’ll recall information from that time, but be unable to point where I heard it from, it was just word of mouth ig

Like the progression trees (crusher tree, bleeder, speed, pounce, etc)

Or the statement of matriarch starting the size of a compy and growing to be bigger than pue

[acoustic osprey]

Herp messaged me recently about this

just because of my suspicions of false assumptions with things

he remembers there being some sort of Don stream about the matriarch
which thus inspired Tap to do her 6 staged art

whether or not Don said Matriarch was supposed to be tiered
unsure
but the size growth thing though, was apparently real

i just find it a shame that

1. no one really/properly archived anything
2. the things we did have 'archives' of were so easily corruptable

most of these being dondi clips

which... yeah. Literally no way to get them back now

[rustic urchin]

Probably not tiered. But yeah I heard the size thing a bunch back in the day

A lot of that type of info is definitely just completely wrong though. Like one of those guides referencing karma had dinosaurs in the “progression trees” like marshosaurus

Oh I remember that tisso dilo tidbit too. Something about it not being a strain, but being its own thing

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if it was a side product of legacy growth
So it was assumed being tiered

[acoustic osprey]

the last bit kinda reminds me of what Magnas were referred as
Variants, less strains

i assume because Magnas were perfected, in a sense

but even then

[rustic urchin]

I think tap just drew it that way as a form of showing the way it mutates. Not really a pokemon evolution, just “recorded” at 6 points where it looks different each time

Definitely implied in taps drawing that it only went down that line of transformation due to its behavior

[acoustic osprey]

Okay Great. Khorne got the selection. He could of choose one of the three , he choose All father, which just so happens to be the codename for Magnatyannus Solus.
For those of you who don't realise, it's the Mega Tyrant of The Sun. Apollo pulls the sun across the skies.
If you haven't figured it out, i'll give you the one clue that i'll give you,and i'll never give another one:
Solus is the fictional strain that has everything to do when AE creates a fictional creature: Something Something Solus. Whether it be Megaraptor Solus,Velociraptor Solus.Whatever it is, Solus, belongs to AE.

[rustic urchin]

I think lore wise, there are a lot of monster type creatures, and only a specific group can be considered strains

[snow jasper]

MEGARAPTOR MENTIONNN

[rustic urchin]

Island walkers, “not a tisso dilo”, matriarch, whatever the primordial is, etc

Not strains but definitely not normal. Which I like that, hope we get more

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much
just legacy growth, basically

[rustic urchin]

Magnaraptor my mistreated abandoned child

[acoustic osprey]

kind like this (Dondi quote from long long ago)
#isle-lore-theories message

[rustic urchin]

Yeah plus it’s not like she was going to draw like a hyper detailed gif/video showing seamless transformation

[acoustic osprey]

but to be fair
his Solus quote is a bit weird

[acoustic osprey]

why not!!

[rustic urchin]

Damn the other day I was thinking of alternate names for isle spino if they went an omniraptor route and decided to give it a fictional name, or at least a species name. Solus would’ve been great

I just put Sp and hinted at it being disconnected from regular spino

[acoustic osprey]

lol

except it never was 'comes'

[snow jasper]

dun dun dunnn

[acoustic osprey]

No. No. How f-ng stupid are you all? How many times do i have to say Chaos before someone figures it out that the second word is chaos?

[rustic urchin]

Chaos theory

Wait

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-chaos-theory-jurassic-park-gif-9379994

[rustic urchin]

Carnage chaos home?

Is that the sentence?

[snow jasper]

no... it cant be

[acoustic osprey]

just before that quote

Lemme push you all off the cliff area and get you towards the path:
Those three words.
You're operating under the assumption that you have more than you actually know.At what point in f-ng time did these three words ever say they were a collective phrase?
Oaky then,get back to work

they were never supposed to be a collective phrase
at least, we all assumed it had to be — thus Carnage Comes Home

i suppose chaos did make sense in the context from Olympus Transmitter

[rustic urchin]

So it’s more like

Carnage.

Chaos.

Home.

I mean that’s not the greatest tagline but whatever

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
assuming whatever word 1 and 3 is
which i do think Carnage could be 1 still

[rustic urchin]

Was it not directly stated?

I could’ve sworn the hope trailer said carnage

[acoustic osprey]

oh true, maybe i am dumb
and jumbling the timeline of events

my apologies

maybe i should stop reading old txt files

because Don did ragebait everyone into believing it lol

btw, original Dondi stream pow wow txt

[rustic urchin]

I guess he was right in the end

[acoustic osprey]

unless you reallllllly want to stretch it

[rustic urchin]

Primal is not happening

Carnage is NOT coming home

[acoustic osprey]

and say that it was searching the most common meaning of the acronym
which was carnage comes home

but does not confirm that the answer of CCH was "carnage comes home"

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[rustic urchin]

What I never understood though

Magnatyrannus is obviously derived from primal rex

[acoustic osprey]

almost 1 to 1 honestly

[rustic urchin]

Operation inferno taking allfather all that jazz

[acoustic osprey]

we need a better lore development timeline to be fair

[rustic urchin]

But what i don’t get, is that they also took novaraptor

And magnaraptor looks NOTHING like novaraptor

[acoustic osprey]

that pow wow comes from a slice of time when it was no PC
but there was also a legacy period where, as you said, operation inferno was a thing — thus PC

[rustic urchin]

So I’m wondering if magnaraptor relating to magnatyrannus is due to some other reason (both trying to be “pinnacles” of their respective analogue maybe) rather than magna≈phoenix

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[rustic urchin]

Because yeah nobody is gonna convince me these two are siblings lol

Also wtf did Jurassic world do

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-gore-of-my-comfort-character-spongebob-meme-incidental-37b-reaction-image-oh-thats-gif-10174208917287232393

[rustic urchin]

Let’s see, its a hybrid of

Magnapyritor+allodrigues

Magnapyritor is a hybrid of dimetrodon and pyrritator

Pyrritator is a hybrid of pyroraptor and irritator

Allodrigues is a hybrid of Rodrigues(?) and alloraptor

Alloraptor is a hybrid of allosaurus and velociraptor (specifically delta for some reason?

So this thing has the family tree of a medieval royal

[pseudo lantern]

because delta equals change?? duh of course

[rustic urchin]

Genius

[pseudo lantern]

there's glue

[rustic urchin]

Ok I was confused at first wtf “Rodrigues” was but it’s just a close relative of the dodo called Rodrigues Solitaire

So this super weapon has dodo too

Now I’m even more distraught that isle magnaraptor got the shaft because

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[rustic urchin]

But it really is making me wonder what Magnaraptor was supposed to be

Surely not a pc reference like m rex. I remember something about magnaraptor having like thermal vision or something

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/s5y8KgmqByQ?t=773

think its from this timestamp on this video

[rustic urchin]

Man that would’ve been cool

And the way he said it made it seem like it’d be less so a super powerful but rare strain, and more a commonish sight

WHY DIDNT THEY JUST MAKE THAT OUR BIG FAKE RAPTOR

[pine bay]

best lore video/series to watch for someone who just got into the game?

[lethal moat]

There’s a podcast on spotify, most things by lightclaw on youtube are good, but this is generally the best media for up to date knowledge: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[pine bay]

thanks and what is the name of the podcast?

[gaunt dawn]

The isle lore theories

[pine bay]

this one?

[lethal moat]

Yup

It’s not being worked on anymore to my knowledge, but it’s just something if you want it in the baclground

[pine bay]

thanks

[gaunt dawn]

That wasnt a response to you btw lol

I just saying the name of the channel

Hey look theres lore written on the ceiling

[gaunt dawn]

Also had no clue this was a thing!

[acoustic osprey]

why

[acoustic osprey]

^ pretty much this

i've a few new videos planned
But only one introductory video, which i've dubbed "2023"
because things seem to have changed

I.e. like the idea of a singular incident is basically likely not a singular thing

lore doc is always updated, as much as it can at least
best thing to use for specific terms and stuff

[ionic fog]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-orange-cat-looking-up-cat-stares-gif-17657355463694122794

[acoustic osprey]

the idea we had yesterday about profiles completing (presumably to or alongside The Matriarch)
Kinda just gives me cosmic horror / some sort of grand cosmic thematic idea (stylistically)

Of course
not EIPs (and also The Matriarch) being space thingos
but the idea of cosmic horror being, like Dash said, alike evangelion

I suppose existential philosophy is a more proper description
(I use cosmic horror because Iron Lung dives into it really well, as a thought bubble. Especially with its biblical references)

[rustic urchin]

Something like that I feel like is definitely something that Apollo would do. Lines up with their questionable morality but good motives

Collective consciousness “technically” would be beneficial to the world arguably

But not fun

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/norman-osborn-spider-man-green-goblin-gif-24532890

-# but you gain true immortality!

that convo though does make me hope for some sort of fun lore thingo on EIPs

[snow jasper]

eip lore is the main juicy stuff i want to know more on

[sonic vale]

eip what it means

[rough hollow]

Embryo Intelligence Profiles.

[sonic vale]

and what is this

is this the idea of it being the same “person” from replication to replication

[rough hollow]

These were (in legacy) the in-game personification of the players, their conscious mind put into the brains and body of a foreign body - A Dinosaur. EIPs are only mentioned by name as related to The TOMB.

[sonic vale]

wait so in lore it is actually me (me) controlling the dinosaur

[rough hollow]

In Legacy. Evrima, we're not sure.

[sonic vale]

interesting…

i just want any lore… please… put a fun document behind that password thing one of these days

[rustic urchin]

Iirc it’s likely that the “brain” controlling the dinosaur isn’t really a true human anymore

[sonic vale]

isn’t it like the actual dinosaurs brain, so they get the dinosaur instincts and such, but it’s like the humans conciousness

[rustic urchin]

Like it’s technically a human consciousness put into an animal, but due to the animal brain interfering with its own chemicals and instincts, it’s lost a lot of its humanity. So not gonna have a dryosaurus who knows algebra and can read/write/drive a car/knows what taxes are

[sonic vale]

like they aren’t thinking “wow i am a human in a dinosaur body” they are thinking exactly as the dinosaur would

[rustic urchin]

Yeah it’s more like all tomorrows if you’ve seen that

My theory anywya

[sonic vale]

u mean the book?

[rustic urchin]

Yeah

[sonic vale]

i didn’t know it was like that in that book

[rustic urchin]

Not exactly like isle

[sonic vale]

i thought the qu just turned their body all gross and weird and it was still the human

[rustic urchin]

But at one point in the story iirc, when the qu mutate the people into weird alternate forms, a lot of them lose their intelligence and human level thought

[sonic vale]

anyway what that makes me ask is why. like why have the human in there at all if it has no impact on what the dinosaur does

[rustic urchin]

So it’s like a tiny bit of humanity trying to make sense of stuff with a less sophisticated mind

[rustic urchin]

Might have some impact. But it’s just not a full human mind anymore

[sonic vale]

ya tru, do we know what nested animals are tho? just normal dino’s?

or do they also have a human consciousness because they were created from 2 dino’s with a human consciousness

[rustic urchin]

I’m pretty sure nested Dino’s are regular brained

Pretty sure even the non nested ones aren’t all eip

So the island has a mixture of eip and “normal” dinosaurs

[sonic vale]

i really want some lore document to be revealed explaining this stuff man. i feel like we wont get big stuff like that until humans and maybe even strains tho

[rustic urchin]

Ask Isaac about that for confirmation though because my EIP knowledge is spotty

[iron anchor]

rex paleo broadcast kinda has that hyper rex train sound

[rustic urchin]

I hope hyper rex gets a paleo call

[iron anchor]

would register as an earthquake

can use that for one of your lore docs maybe lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

all we know about EIPs in Evrima
is that the TOMB is connected to it (as some sort of library of alexandria — it gets eradicated.

[sonic vale]

hopefully the dome has some fun lore inside because there should hopefully be some sort of labs connected to that thing, but who knows. maybe we wont get much lore at all until something that can interact with computers comes

[lethal moat]

Redwoods + unexpected manmade horrors

[molten valve]

THE

ISLE

5 second cooldown what happened

Oh

Wrong chat

[fierce cradle]

Does the terminals work ?

[acoustic osprey]

We only have one terminal atm

https://youtu.be/Xzugg_dfaa8?si=qOrFRPr47PYb59Tz

Basically this
Self promo...

But
Tldr

There is a terminal
It is only accessible when in the loading screen when going into a server

[tranquil flume]

And looooooree??

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

basically no

[tranquil flume]

For now

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

one shalth hope

[tranquil flume]

Maybe it’ll change in the future

[acoustic osprey]

we all hope so 😔

[tranquil flume]

Don wouldnt leave us hanging

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/amadeus-mozart-tom-hulce-1984-f-murray-abraham-gif-11810801986279787355

yeah...

[tranquil flume]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

NOT LOL!!

[tranquil flume]

[acoustic osprey]

we will never know who logged in

we will likely never know how we could have logged in

there are truly some things we may just never know about..

[tranquil flume]

Lightclaw over here like

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-kyoko-kirigiri-after-school-lesson-gif-6483675630744807798

[muted reef]

Which is why we pressure Dondi into making "Legacy: What could have been" as a podcast interview where he spews all about it

https://klipy.com/gifs/javier-bardem-anton

[acoustic osprey]

oh no more podcast/interview as well

a great dream though
maybe once the isle is (or basically becomes) finished

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-shield-gif-4723149553822545077

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

[tranquil flume]

Sorry i had to

[acoustic osprey]

you better be sorry!!!

[tranquil flume]

I will take that sorry back 😛

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[tranquil flume]

Hahaha

[merry zodiac]

Not this….. noooooo

[sonic sage]

this video is 1 month old, i think austro will come out in 1-5 month

[frozen totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1396350852385603605/1435322479890530415/togif.gif

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-food-eating-cat-eating-gif-1320502635529344444

[ornate comet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1313316700174946346/Rex_ComeHere.gif

this animation is unused right

currently anyway

[acoustic osprey]

not used in the isle lore, yet

[ornate comet]

(i sent it here because of slowmode im sorry)

[acoustic osprey]

wow...

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[ornate comet]

I wonder if the arborburst will come with the redwoods or in a future patch

[acoustic osprey]

probably not 😔

[sonic vale]

wonder what that is. cama also has a weird animation where it interacts with something in front of it

kissen said that animation was an idle for when ur in a specific place at a specific time too

[rustic urchin]

Have we ever heard anything about this again

[fierce cradle]

What's this ?

Vibranuin ?

[acoustic osprey]

with Tissos

but no, don't think so

[fierce cradle]

The isle x marvel ?
Ironhypsi as a playable character

[fierce cradle]

I wonder what it is .... I think it's for licking gastrolith at night time

[rustic urchin]

Was on the og tisso concept art

Bio titanium ig

So maybe possibly they can synthesize some kind of organic “metal”

Whether that’s their skeleton or something they form on their skin idk

[fierce cradle]

What's tisso

?

[rustic urchin]

It’s a strain like the hypers. Instead of being really big tanks, they’re more like stealthy assasins

And they have something involving cell growth and tissue generation, and (lore wise) limb regeneration

[fierce cradle]

They have nice concepts
But right nown the map doesnot allow us to play with this characters
And I guess the mechanics of this thing is veeery time consuming to make

I will love to see the strains in the game .... Yes
But I don't see it coming in the near future

[sonic vale]

i just hope when they do drop, its more than just carno

though id be happy to get anything. also hope it isnt just hyper city for a while. feel like hypers are the favorite

[stoic hamlet]

Trade markeddd

[rustic urchin]

Biotanium™

[stoic hamlet]

Well whoever that photo belongs to, owns the stuff lmao

Well apollo does anyway

[rustic urchin]

The concept of Apollo giving tissoplastics some kind of organic metal and then TRADEMARKING it

[rustic urchin]

But…the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Metallivore...

[lethal moat]

Neuro plant

Literally just hallucinogenic

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[tranquil flume]

hallucinogenetic + parasitic plant??

[spiral moth]

Where you guys find these pictures?

[acoustic osprey]

The age of being with isle lore takes its toll...

I've kinda realised a few weeks back that I should be archiving things a bit more...

So my old lore catalogue has ever been growing

[spiral moth]

?

Holy bot

Oh, deleted

[muted hill]

was a scam link before

[spiral moth]

Yeah, now is screenshot

[spiral moth]

But you remember where you got them ?

[wind epoch]

Curious what a hypo cerato would look like.

[fierce cradle]

hey @acoustic osprey are they ever planning to introduce this ? Any idea ?

[hexed forge]

Introduce what?

[fast forge]

hyper cerato?
I haven't seen anything about it

[rustic urchin]

Nothing said about it. Could happen in evrima but who knows

In legacy the only strain Dino’s we’re the “apex” of each progression tree

[merry zodiac]

The only non apex carnivores i know of is neurotic dilo and hyper carno

At least that i remember

But just checked fan art and it turns our i forgot a lot lol

[rustic urchin]

Neuro dilo is only taps fanart. Nothing official yet

Technically carno is an apex by progression definition afaik

Since it’s based on the progression trees, and carno is the apex of the “speed tree”. At least that’s what was commonly discussed by the community

[merry zodiac]

Hmmm

My knowledge on pre evrima isle is very lacking

[rustic urchin]

But I think that logic is out the window now so really any carnivore could get one afaik

Hopefully dilo gets some

[rustic urchin]

Utah was the “pounce” apex as well I believe which was why it got a hyper

[merry zodiac]

I’m not minding it if only apexes get it this time but only Don can know the truth now

[rustic urchin]

I think anything could now. The reason only the apex of each tree got them before was because they were meant to be an endgame thing

So progression loop In concept would be working your way up the tree to better dinosaurs, and then at the end animal you could get a strain

But now nothing is better than others, technically

[sonic vale]

hopefully it’s not just the giant animals, but omni (or utah) is supposedly getting hyper, and allo would be higher in that tree, so it seems anyone can

i’m kinda sad it’s carnivore tho. man neuro anky would be really cool to see. or just different strains for herbis entirely.

since herbis probably wouldent need the hunting advantages strains give carnis

hopefully we get a deino strain. that would be interesting

[tranquil flume]

I would imagine one of the deino strains just being all teeth, kinda like Charybdis

[lethal moat]

Deino with a lampray mouth for neuro deino

[rustic urchin]

I think the old idea for progression had allo in the “bleeder” tree leading up to giga, and Utah in the “pounce” tree as the top guy

But that never actually happened because Utah didn’t get a working pounce in progression, not really anyway

[acoustic osprey]

Austro pounce yay

[sonic vale]

confirm? sigh…

[rustic urchin]

I think he’s referencing the ancient one from legacy

[sonic vale]

ah

really hope austro doesent get pounce so it can get something cooler

[lethal moat]

I hope we see some sort of corporate espionage in lore soon

Maybe we’ve already seen it and just don’t recognize it

[rustic urchin]

Isn’t that the main purpose of the gen1? I know it’s for defense or sabotage but i guess espionage can fall under that

Imagine taking some pictures and stealing some documents of an Apollo facility and then you go into work the next day at some bioengineering company and suddenly a helicopter flies by and dumps 100 giant pale monsters on you

[lethal moat]

There's also more subtle versions

Stealing data

Slowing progress

[rustic urchin]

I wonder if there’s anyone actually standing up to Apollo now though

Phoenix got erased from reality lol

[lethal moat]

There are two rival companies

[rustic urchin]

I wonder what horrors they’ve been up to, if any

Spinoff time!

[knotty locust]

I like to imagine one of them is just an average, modern day company that doesn’t really do any heinous stuff, mostly just tax evading like real companies

and so you have people clocking their 9 to 5 in a cubicle unaware a bigass, cannibalistic monstrosity is about to crawl its way up the stairwell

[fast forge]

SCP vibes

[rustic urchin]

Apollo and rivals

Guy from rival company steals some random data and causes a 0.0001% drop to stock market value so the only rational response is to send a hundred 9 foot tall cannibalistic imitations of a human to his cubicle at 9:17 am on a Tuesday

[knotty locust]

see the genetic monstrosity leaning on the side of the cubicle with a cup of coffee and a tie
”clocking in again, I see”
”hhhhrg”
”sigh, did it happen again, Ugrok?”
”ghhrgrhg”
”alright fine, but when you rip me apart try to avoid getting blood on the keyboard”

[rustic urchin]

Probably better than HR

[lethal moat]

Better than running into Jandice

[sonic vale]

grok?

[late stirrup]

theory: the dinosaurs are there because the guys made the dinosaurs

[gaunt dawn]

Woah

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

meanwhile
AE being the most successful, seemingly
Likely doesn't even need to tax evade

when they have enough to use as deductibles

the giant atrium for example lol

[acoustic osprey]

three now! (now being last year, i think)

we had the original two
but when Don showed the timeline, we got a third extra

OTC and F&V (unknown allegiances)

• Both are potential victims of Generation One attacks at some point.
  EF: Nothing known

https://tenor.com/view/pepesaber-pepe-frog-dance-move-gif-16717201

[strange shell]

Fun fact : companies who evade taxes are never the ones that need to do it

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1469339466958114846/pies.gif

this is true

but i do not imagine they would have a lot of taxable income considering big cement and multi sub system machine (replicator)

but i suppose what little left would still be considerably a lot, for a normal fella

[tranquil flume]

What strain would be better for a deino that looks like Charybdis? Neuro or Tisso?

Neuro?

[ionic fog]

Neuro would be the peak Deino, since they Love rain and water

NeuroDeino would be blissful, until it starved to death because deino

[tranquil flume]

Mm so you think a whirlpool monster of teeth would be better as a tisso? Nor really sure if i’d see it as a hyper

[ionic fog]

Oh I missed Charybdis mention lol

[tranquil flume]

[ionic fog]

Idk whirlpool of teeth in the form of sea noodle would probably be a hyper then, they’re just teeth +

[tranquil flume]

Was thinking of making a drawing

[ionic fog]

Like hyper giga having the giant mouth scoop, deino could definitely turn into a noodle of teeth

[tranquil flume]

Cross between a lamprey like rumple mentioned and a deino. It would be cool if the strain would open it’s jaws to almost a 180 degree and create a whirlpool into a jaw where it’s throat is just lined with teeth

[lethal moat]

Whirlpool might genuinely work better for a carnivorous plant

Have it be a set location like an ambush

[muted hill]

carnivorous plants living under the riverbed now that would be kinda cool

[ionic fog]

I picture a predator like jaw almost, turning into a loose 360 of teeth, mix that with a deathroll crocodiles are so famous for, whirlpool

[tranquil flume]

Oversized Waterwheels?

[lethal moat]

Yus

[tranquil flume]

Ohh that would be cool, i could imagine a giant hyper grabbing onto like a spino with it halfway down and shredding it to death with a death roll

[ionic fog]

Awww hellll nah the sentient kelp is pulling me to the depths again

[lethal moat]

Snack time :3

Mendys with lotus petals that drown you instead of bleeding you

[tranquil flume]

Hyper strain waterwheels would be terrifying

[lethal moat]

Poor beipi tries to escape a deino in the foliage at the bottom of the lake

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WxPBJlWoPQ
the song that plays whenever we get lore

[shell sand]

Got anymore of 'deez? Specifically of the dinosaurs we have in-game?

[acoustic osprey]

theres a few, iirc only 3 ones, that we have officially of current in-game dinos

plus a Rex one which isn't full sized

[shell sand]

Yeah... Galli, Beipi, and cerato are the only ones lucky enough to get one... But I need 'em all.

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-meme-jar-gif-4658690738464352739

[acoustic osprey]

theres more 🫠

just sadly, we were supposed to get some for GUTS
which... yeah

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gorrister-gorrister-ihnmaims-ihnmaims-gif-2564304289874165779

should we feel sad for EIPs

assuming our assumptions of them

[merry zodiac]

Yes

You too would feel sad eternally stuck in a groundhog day of infinite lives

This is worse than every punishment we can imagine

While whats left of the original you fades every day along with your humanity

[rustic urchin]

#isle-fan-art message

[fierce cradle]

how to eat brazil nuts as stego ?

i can only see a lonnng tree

[sonic rampart]

#isle-discussion

[ornate comet]

Any of the “he was forced to play (insert species)” gifs could be technically lore accurate

[civic pollen]

lore accurate memes

[opaque aspen]

RIP

[nimble fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391873353299787857/1394429598921392178/Dondi_quieres_ae_spin.gif

[fierce cradle]

What if AE engineering is real and they have made this game so that they will study how we act when there are delays ? Bugs etc etc and yes obviously how we play the dinos

[rustic urchin]

I can totally see some of this happening irl

My first thought though would be companies reincarnating you into a human again in order to pay off your debts instead of just getting to die and rest

[fathom valve]

Happy birthday everyone

[rustic urchin]

@acoustic osprey have we ever been able to read this part on tisso art? It looks like a gel electrophoresis chart but I can’t read the things

Or xray maybe

Wait

[fast forge]

I see the resemblance to gel electrophoresis, but it's not quite right

[rustic urchin]

Yeah it’s not gel

It’s radiographic inspection like what they do on welds and materials to test for quality

Best attempt to decipher the blurry words based on the terminology I’ve found

But I don’t think those parts matter too much, the basic takeaway for now is that it’s analyzing some kind of material/metal, which is now the second thing on tissos concept relating to that

Since the Biotanium™ thing is an electron microscope image, and very similar to one of metal

So alongside the tisso research stuff we’ve heard and learned about relating to cancer treatment, there seems to be a significant involvement with this metal

[fast forge]

Biotanium? So perhaps it's incorporating titanium into the tisso biology? Strange

[rustic urchin]

Either titanium or some similar structure

If my idea about tissos not only being able to produce cells quickly, but also being able to adapt and modify their bodily structures to a high degree is correct, then maybe they’ve managed to form an organic metal of sorts

[fast forge]

tbh I already had a theory regarding strains and incorporating metal into biological material, but that was for hypers

maybe it was changed away from being a tisso trait

[rustic urchin]

Makes sense for hypers too since you have to explain that bulletproof super-armor somehow

Organic metal seems to be a recurring theme though

[acoustic osprey]

i know you go into it just after this message
but i wish the old discord was never deleted

there was definitely talks on these more
because i swear there were more talks on stuff like the biotanium and stuff like this

of course, old lorecord might've had some talks on it as well
i think i did

but i swear old islecord did as well

[rustic urchin]

Biotanium has come up before

[acoustic osprey]

being the hot pot of lore was smaller then, so things like this would not have been overlooked

[rustic urchin]

But not the radiography part

[acoustic osprey]

not in this channel

saying that
how is it possible for things to become flipped, irl

(I flipped this to see the text behind)

a bit funny
doesn't make sense though lol

[granite mist]

You are looking at the back of the card. That's why the reversed text is faded.

[acoustic osprey]

no, the original has faded text unflipped

https://gyazo.com/4bb62d156155732efa165cf203a8a057

[granite mist]

Than that's the back of the card. Ink is fading into the back.

[acoustic osprey]

the actual flipped texts are these:

sp.P/5
(species Project 5? Species 5?)

S.OLIAUST.NAT.INS.COLL
(I believe the I in OLI is supposed to be a dot, but has some inked splog or is supposed to be an I then a dot - thus OLI.AUST...)

LIAN NATIONAL
COLLECTION
ark S. A
n. 1997
Barro

bush

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/afef9f49b77c00b73d05c33d45f103a6
this does not look faded in my opinion

and half the text is printed
the other is written

it does not seem possible
especially when the written text doesn't look faded in my opinion
and the printed text would have to had been printed in the weirdest way for it to show up

[granite mist]

Do you want an irl explaination? Or just bad photo shop from the original creator......

[acoustic osprey]

this is isle theories, when do my or others questions ever become answered

i like bringing things up

[granite mist]

That's why you fill in the gaps so you can sleep at night. 😂

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gorrister-gorrister-ihnmaims-ihnmaims-gif-2564304289874165779

[crystal cairn]

dearest Light

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1225219065329745920/Shadow_Gif.gif

[gaunt dawn]

Wheres the lore

[crystal cairn]

scientia potentia est

[acoustic osprey]

the isle lore is power

[rustic urchin]

No it’s come up in this channel before too I’m pretty sure

Also so was the radiography thing already discovered? Am I late to the party on that one

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/it-does-not-exist-doesnt-exist-if-an-item-does-not-appear-in-our-records-does-not-appear-does-not-appear-in-our-records-gif-26247881

it has come up before in lorecord
but i cannot find an instance of us talking about it here

weirdly

[rustic urchin]

#isle-lore-theories message I guess not really discussed

[acoustic osprey]

ah, images

[rustic urchin]

Also unless someone else can claim it earlier I’m taking credit for the radiography metal thing

Major breakthrough I know

I wanted to fit more about tisso stuff but I might just make a document on tissos as a whole

Since I forgot I have this template too

[acoustic osprey]

i think i still have the alt version of these

albeit, somewhere
pre-lorecord deletion

[rustic urchin]

The burning of Alexandria

[acoustic osprey]

TOMB reference!!!
oh my

the real TOMB was the lorecord...

[rustic urchin]

The end actually is the end

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anjin-gif-14081357704132594281

[lethal moat]

I rather doubt that

[acoustic osprey]

trying to find every reference of someone saying tisso rex to try and prove you wrong!!!!

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ultron-ultron-vision-ultron-mind-age-of-ultron-ultron-vision-mind-gif-6516959786506236769

[gaunt dawn]

The end is

[median shuttle]

I eated it

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[formal mural]

Hmm

[fierce cradle]

This was allo trailer right ?

and what is this structure ?

[frozen totem]

Looks like part of the dome

[acoustic osprey]

Dibble trail camera video

But twas Allo

[acoustic osprey]

Definitely

[young summit]

Lorecord deleted??

When did this happen?

[ember flame]

what appened to the lor cor

[lethal moat]

Like, August last year, they made a new one that I’m personally not a fan of

[scenic cairn]

someone have a good video to explain the lore of the isle?

[lethal moat]

It’s very unfinished, lightclaw makes good videos on youtube, but there’s a lot we still don’t know, this google doc is going to have the best explanation https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[scenic cairn]

thx

[young summit]

Ahhh

[fierce cradle]

@acoustic osprey what's the most outrageous theory u believe cannbentruenfor the isle?

[rustic urchin]

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[knotty locust]

at least I can deal with him here