#isle-lore-theories
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like gen 4 mutation only on specifically like herrera omni troo idk
mmm
thats also cool
I can see some " IT WILL NEVER END " type of messages in the death screen
But Matriarch can adapt to anything
Yeah… well not to death… the ark giga is around 300 tons in weight and 14 meters tall. It’d just crush matriarch in any of the stages when its on land
Its 3x taller than the matriarch in rex stage
Hey now
Can’t always trust ark logic
I’ve killed a giga with an argy
Yeah, i’m just basing it on size
True, also I don’t know if we’re positive how many stages it has, or if it actually looks like those drawn
Unless those too became canon when Tap joined the dev team
You saw Iron Lung? How was it?
I don’t think we really know what extent and how fast it adapts. It seems likely it’s more something like The Thing, where it absorbs biomass from other things and can take on traits. I don’t think it’s like shin Godzilla where after being exposed to a threat it can adapt to survive it within hours/days
And most definitely not like DC Doomsday, where if something kills it, it just comes back immune to that
So if anything can just kill it before it transforms, it’s probably still dead. If it gets away heavily injured it can likely quickly recover though
Since tissos and matriarch are connected and both seem related to some form of advanced cell growth and body adaptation
Someone’s gonna port ark models into the game when modding is in…
@regal horizon 
yooooooooooooooo 
startin a new mc server btw if you want to join Daviid
Say lesss
We don’t even know if it has stages, it might just grow like a regular rex or a hypo rex just bigger
Great
tapwing fan canon has the idea of stages
realistically, to what we know with Evrima
It seems to be a bit less then immediate adaption
from what we know, it must consume first to gain whatever attribute
but, like a lot of cool things in isle Lore
i just wish to have some proper lore on it
-# and not just comments from Dondi, as cool as his cryptic comments are
The bonker
very yummy
They are coming
🔥
I can hear the footsteps
I really want then to end the new steam trailer with the hypo rex roar at the end ....it will be bonkers
something loreish like that would be fitting
Holy hypo carno getting some animations?
just so, it seems!
that would be nice, there is always something bigger on islandia
hi 4531!
is this supposed to be like a pinning with the horns thing
seems to be something like it, yeah
hello 0 mass scratcher
good to see you around though, hope you're well
i am, its nice to see the lore never stops
it has been fun recently though
i think you hibernated through two lore videos
which were very pleasant to watch
fair
this style, reminds me of the Carno Duck, who made this 
no idea
im gonna guess the one on the very left
Make sense because of the ambulance garages
(albeit, this is just a layout showing every building we have at the moment. Not a scientist village yet)
exactly!
I understand
Or this means the Hospital has multiple satellite buildings
ye
there once was a scientist village on an old old map
i wouldn't be surprised if we'd get a proper hospital building
For me "ye" doesn't mean "yes"
It means "you"
Well I hope we get asphalt roads as well
that building (from reply) has this operational room
That run-through the map connecting interesting places
agreed!
double agree
I want cool roads that connect the map up a bit
Asphalt roads seen by animals as basically rivers.
They hesitate to cross them and once they do there's a chance they get ran over
the isle roadkill document
Roadkill Dryo
Aye ye ken
But
lol
Asphalt roads in the Isle running through dense forests would be a straight cut in the vegetation.
This means you can look far away into the distance and see who tries to cross it.
As a Carno asphalt roads would be my lore friendly hunting grounds
If it can be part of the lore.
Then so be it.
Some funny accident report of a trucker would be entertaining
I miss environmental world building.
Imagine an abushed Æ vehicle convoy on such asphalt roads
Far away in the middle of the forest
With vehicles wrecks and some lore.
Or if you could find overgrown vehicle wrecks along dirt paths that has tyre marks in the mud
Mood
mmmm

yeah
slowly getting there
Maybe if we search a bit deep maybe we can find some notes about the strains or the matriarch or the hypos or the cannibals or the island walkers or maybe about human gen 1 , gen 2
And I hope they will bring tartarus now
Can i ask if theres gonna be any human update or when will human be avalaible again ? its gone since the new patch
no eta's unfortunately!

Do you guys have any theories on what are the new idle animations we've been shown?
I think one of the austro's will play when he's envenomated, the one where it looks paranoid
But idk abt the camara one
the lore is strong in this one
It could be checking if someone is actually dead, similar to what we saw that trike doing with the dibble in the last file recovery video
hypo comback?
ironic that your name is Hades lol
lol
Hades being/was the name of the Hyper Carno(s) in legacy lore
i depise base carnos in game i play omni
lol
if the hypo carno comes back, wouldnt that mean more hypo will too like hypo rex,giga and omni (utah)
we have, at least, one other confirmed Hyperendocrin
so we might see more in the future soon 👀
im also thinking that the neuro spino might make a comeback
along with more lore about apollo
also how come the island has no humans around eventhough Apollo most probably watches the dinos surely there must be some level of interaction (im talking about in lore not gameplay)
Is this hyper carno animation new
yes
^^

its at the bottom of the newest dev blog
Honestly…i think i skipped the animations
I just read
Oh wait theres a “show more” button at the bottom
lol
I didnt see that
Dont laugh at me
sorry

when it comes to the whole welcome islander thing
how do i actually stay in the screen before loading into the game
Yes
luck and hope
i find the best way to get stuck on it is trying to log into the QA server as the first thing you do
sometimes it'll stay infinitly
mostly wont
But yeah
I just updated the LAB IX description in the lore document, and I’m kind of curious.
Yesterday, Dondi replied to a message of mine in Isle discussion where I sent a picture of the LAB IX image from the dev blog.
He responded saying that’s the lab hub and necropsy area... which got me thinking ...
because clearly, if you look at the photo, it’s not showing two completely different areas.
It’s not like one section is the lab hub and another is the necropsy area ... it’s just showing two different optimisations of the same area.
So what he definitely means is that he’s referring to the whole building as the lab hub, and within it, it contains the necropsy area.
-# I can kind of see a theoretical split in the building layout ... maybe the large section closer to the camera is the hub area, and the section further back is the necropsy area. We don’t truly know the layout yet though, so we’ll have to wait and see.
What I’m more curious about is the description of it specifically being called the lab hub and necropsy area.
I don’t know, it just makes me more curious about the name LAB IX.
I feel like maybe there’s more to it ... maybe LAB IX isn’t just the name of a single lab location, but more like a company division, subsidiary, or specialised task group.
Maybe it’s a specialised subsidiary run by Apollo Engineering, either on Gateway or across multiple islands, and it’s just called LAB IX.
I don’t know, maybe I’m overthinking it and reading too far into things, but calling it the lab hub really stood out to me.
That phrasing seems to give LAB IX a very bold label, like it’s a central or important facility rather than just a standard lab.
If anything, maybe LAB IX is primarily a necropsy-specialised facility.
But then why describe it as having a hub instead of just being a necropsy lab? That’s what makes me wonder if it has a broader function.
Maybe it’s used for administrative or coordination purposes between Gateway and other labs.
Or maybe all sizeable labs need to have a hub section, and this is just normal and not of importance to think about.
We’ve seen parts of the interior already, and a lot of it feels very hub-like.
There’s a kitchen, a lot of open space, and overall it doesn’t look like the majority of the facility is dedicated purely to necropsy in terms of total floor composition.
It will be really interesting to see how it’s actually structured in the end.
from this message: #isle-discussion message
Thank you
No worries
I managed to get into it @acoustic osprey with the QA trick you did
messing around in here, trying to figure out how to interace with it
I feel like this isn't JUST for the game
There's something else hidden in this menu, there's gotta be
from what i believe
at the moment
i believe its just the games, until they add more *soon ™ *
but nice!
I think I am going to start spending time in this menu, maybe I am crazy but I feel like there's something else in here.
Type the right command? I don't know, there's this empty audio file in here that makes me start going nuts.
yay
real footage of the isle lore fans
its an Isle Legacy Lore reference (of course, coming from Fnaf)
just because they're basically the same thing
Can anyone here explain to me what tartarus is?
Tartarus as in the Greek Tartarus?
no like the tartarus in the isle lore
we have a doc in the pinned messages (2nd one) that is a better summarisation and theory doc on lore
if you want more straight forward answers
but basically...
Tartarus is a truly distinct but unknown location
From what we believe, it seems to be some sort of theorised massive facility (or island? or site?) of some sort
What it does or may not do is truly up in the air, in most regards
It has been used as a threat to employees who access restricted documents.
In legacy, specifically, it was basically believed to be a giant creation facility for strains and the similar monsters...
for example, The Matriarch was developed within Tartarus (legacy, of course)
Alongside in Legacy, Tartarus was given EIPs via Gateway (Gateway had been a facility holding that transported EIPs straight to Tartarus)
but with Evrima...
its a bit harder to describe
going back to the threat bit
It may be that Tartarus is just a giant holding/prison cell - a bit more like actual Greek mythos.
however
if you note from this re-created slide from the AUGUSTUS incident report
additional replications of AUGUSTUS had remained in Tartarus
remained being a very important word here
Which seems to indicate that they, AUGUSTUS replicants, were replicated within Tartarus ... and those that weren't re-injected into Gateway or any other location/site were just left to stay within Tartarus
This might indicate that, rather,
instead of Tartarus being this massive holding cell that just lets their employees rot in a cell
It might be more of an active lab-ish facility that has to work on a lot of dirtier/rougher tasks (potentially even with Strains, but we don't know with Evrima for sure)
And so I kinda relate the idea of Tartarus as like Shrek
(that being, workers who had failed their projects would be sent to work on Shrek)
-# Shrek (at the time) was the low-budget boondoggle that would likely never succeed. So you're being sent to have a bad mark on your portfolio
hope this helps!
maybe we need to entomb 1000 times
for the thousand life contract
:))
lore
hi daviid
hi lightclaw
It did tysm🫡
My toiling will never end
Why did magnas get scrapped
Saw the movie on Friday lol
Changes in the lore
iirc in legacy there was a collab with primal carnage, and magnas were part of that
as the collab is no longer a thing, magnas are no longer a thing
stuff like hypers is though afaik
Also magnas are kinda uninteresting as strains
They're just the regular animal, but better and without the downsides that come with being a strain in the first place
im playing on petits NA right now and sitting in a bush growing and i just heard some gutteral growl
like that was not a playable
and the whole forest went quiet
im at the fence near east sanctuary, has anyone heardsomething like that before
i didnt record it sadly
New deino sounds, that’s a spawn for them too
Paleo call
honestly might be it, it definetly didnt sound like a paleo call it really was more of a growl rather than a rumble
Baby crocs sound far larger than you would think, little juvi calls make them sound giant
Isle lore theories
theorising
pretty much, yeah
Could someone tell me the lore behind these trees I’ve been interested
Tweez
do you know about straintrees?
thats a old legacy concept of one
arbourburst to be specific I believe
yes
could be a ceiba but imagine if we had that ingame, like man
we only have ArborBurst Redwoods at the moment
so i wouldn't be surprised if there are more
ya
but im just imaging the size of that tree
especially since this is a hyper spino I think
yeah
it's a bit big lol
yep
and little hueman ant next to it
ya
i presume that arborburst tree was going to be the replacement tree for the spire on Spiro
like how big would that even be, like highlands size? dome size
which, of course, never happened
nothing ever happens
definitely dome height
give or take
A bit big.. that tree would cover like the whole South Plains if it was real ingame or even bigger.. 😭
There is nothing like The Isle's lore anywhere else ..
If we get an arborburst ceiba, I'd put it out in the jungle instead of inside a dome (which is where I expect the 'burst redwood to be located)
And yeah, the size of a small dome certainly seems possible
Arborburst baob
arborburst dandelion
Landmine
dandemine
lol
at least for Gateway, definitely
-# unless the redwoods at the swamp location is on Gateway...
maybe
probably not
Destroy <@&933486433342222376>
from a Don post here
a long long while ago now
Does this mean anything?:
825143796
HBEADCGIF
I wonder how far along the graph they got before troodon existed
where did it come from?
I saw y'all talk about beep boops a while back so I recorded the main menu background noise (which has beeps and also softer beeps throughout), and because I'm not good at Audio, I bought chatgpt Plus, gave the sound to chatgpt, told it some isle background, and to basically check the whole up and down of that audio and tell me what he finds. And he found this: (spent a good couple of mins on analizying it)
honestly doesn't seem like anything to me
Assigning numbers to each beep according to their relative pitch to each other doesn't really signify anything
And then saying that it's a pattern when the same audio repeats - of course it's a pattern, it's the same audio file on repeat
This honestly adds nothing, it only sounds complicated to those who don't bother to break down the logic
But there is no logic, it's just "what if we assign numbers to these beeps, those numbers must surely be a code"
Like I could assign numbers to the notes in the chorus of a song, but that doesn't indicate any intent by the creator to hide a code or something
Also ChatGPT isn't built to add any new context to anything, all it does is summarize the pre-existing information
It can find patterns in data, but without proper context it's just going to find nonsense patterns
and its also pretty random
and those boops and beeps play randomingly in stereo in the main menu too
lol
Am I remember The Lore right, troo was the beginning of the end?
First creature to break out
Hi lightclaw
Hi
Extremely loud incorrect buzzer
Not sure
Don't think so
Hi Daviid!!
How the mighty fall, lightclaw forgot lore
nuh uh
all we have is really just this:
I'm writing anomalous incident reports, which is just my fun way of talking about dinosaur abilities in the narrative setting. Most of it is spent humanizing people that aren't relevant to multiplayer just so you want to read.
The vast majority of the troodon's takes place with audio transcripts of interviews and snippets of personal journals over a short, but unspecified amount of time. So you'll get what people think they saw at the time and they wrote down vs what they recall much later when audio interviews occurred. There's also specific notes jotted down amongst the scrabble of factual information that's cross-referenced with island utilities such as cameras or when biotracing is created, so you can be like "Dohoho it wasn't an error!
" instead of left completely wondering.
I haven't had characters spring up across multiple reports.
Troodon AIR 14-C, "Just a bird" 🙂
(about mimicry, probably not actually real though - but brain food from dondi)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URwssUPgv3w Troodon Trail Cam
Also this
Created from another dinosaur currently not in-game, a byproduct of an in-world character’s, “But what if we did this” to animal X…” -Dondi (Oct 25/26 2023)
isle ███. Inhabitant species: Troodon - Retrieved Trail Camera Footage.
Steam: https://store.steampowered.com/app/376210/The_Isle/
Discord: https://discord.gg/survivetheisle
Website: https://survivetheisle.com/
legacy DTA
||That exists though.||
The big mofo?
... we've shown it.
Im forgetting things
@ionic fog you were right
Lol
Oh god
Definitely enough for some bigger things 👀
Seems about the right size for a single hypsi to live in
true
if you go by zoo laws (regulations? suggestions?)
||knowing there are some nasty zoos in the world that just do not have the right space for animals, especially predators like lions||
hi padre
I miss you
oh i think you missed the hidden terminal being added @dusk hearth
I have
wait what is that?
doesn't seems to be anything added on this patch
but never hurts me to give it a go, once in a while
Im saying is that sum kinda lore thing? or like a admin menu for people to test stuff
well
it's pretty much a lore thing
just something that is WIP and has no lore yet
still sick tho
quite so
thanks for showing
no worries
hopefully we get something big on it
sooner or later
just had to let you in! Knowing you were asking about stuff
my contribution!
fr that would be cool
the many many possibilities it could contain
yea I'm behind a few months
even more disapointments it contain aswell
😭 jp but yk dont get your hopes up too high
tis be the isle
things come that make happy
and make sad
I don't get too bothered
I love what Don is doing, and I just hope Don loves what he does to
I'm bout to check out what hes doin in a sec I just got all the devblogs I missed
enjoy
😁
wb
Hello friend!
WOAH youre a discord adminastrator😂
I wasnt expecting that
neither was i tbh.
I was

Get back on topic
Lore
yay
added a tiny bit of description into the doc
referred to ATLAS as deceased
might have it say "deceased (entombed?)"
but i do not recall having a slide referring to such
so i'm 50/50 on it
also added entombed on AUGUSTUS, but not deceased
as we don't truly know if there is only one way of entombment
as we're yet to know how it fully works in all regards
EIPs? Profiles? Being sent back to X (Olympus maybe? TOMB? Tartarus?)?
lore we're yet to know
-# lore doc patchnotes
Throw me to a rex if im wrong but are these clovers in swamp new?
Yeah
From the Redwoods area in the Atrium
So the devblog showing the Redwoods at a swamp is likely from Gateway
As always!
oxalis… not clover
different family, different ecology
notably because of nitrogen fixation in legume nodes
nuh uh
same thing now, plant boy!!
oh…
they used to be flat on the ground but now they're actually 3d 
think so
OH also can confirm that the ferns in redwood biome are western sword ferns not deer ferns
oh
conifers all in one place
@fast forge botany eater has confirmed it
eating a bowl including plants rn
would it make sense for redwoods to be at the swamp, ecologically?
DAMN RIGHT!
uhhh, sorta? not in terms of temperature really, but if you think about humidity and acidic soil, yes
hmm i see
redwoods notoriously need copious near-daily coastal fog to hydrate their leaves (they can drink through their stems in addition to roots)
refer back to Gateway ST with its beautifully crazy swamp fog lol
fog may truly be the universal answer in the isle
like what even was this
also, though probably won’t happen, cali huckleberries grow in coastal redwood forests
i see
man now i’m thinking about all the foliage improvements possible for swamp 
so AE has kinda done the impossible again!!
nuh uh!
pretty much, since temperature tends to really limit how tall redwoods can grow cause of transpiration
fun
equisetum… actual cypress foliage… giant ferns of various types…
i just want aussie east coast mangroves!!
(i live right next to one, beautiful area)
please
crab law as well
need mangroves
soon... 😔
Perfect reasoning for them to be Domed! Nurtured environment, skylights for sun, artificial misting systems 
And for the redwoods seen in swamp, idk, maybe that wall that briefly had the door hinge on swamp side was breached by a big bad and redwoods seeded out into the wild
perhaps… or simply genetic modification… or a combination more likely
i could see heat-tolerant redwoods as a very easily marketable short-term climate solution
(i say short term because most (?) of the carbon they capture doesn’t get put into the ground and gets decayed back into the atmosphere)
Origins of AE after all 
as opposed to grasslands, which put like all of it below ground forever
probably more arborbursts
heck
maybe a totem or two!
Please
i actually need to put that in my folder
🙏 some more presence-style stuff like that would be amazing
but the statue is too far, but......... tribal art coming back? perchance
eves could can't
yay

What is going on?
nothing until
You give me the impression I oversee something
Did they release footage of the new biome?
woah
Wassup lore nerds
OH
Quick question, i was wondering do we know where the isle is located?
everywhere and nowhere, all at once
map of plants found on Gateway (from last year)
Whut
There is no in lore hints to where it is? Like the pacific or the caribe?
was gonna say erm a lot of plants had model changes and stuff before I saw this
Can anyone give me a simple the isle lore like how the dinosaur in the isle or what is the human doing or is it some kind of company
Humans made dinosaur using giant machine that makes life, humans work for company to make dinosaurs
I like dinosaurs
Are sandstorms canon? Because if they are that would mean the island is located next to a big desert
Not that we’ve seen, that’s just a part of the weather pack or whatever it is
Shame because that would really facilitate things
A desert map would be cool, we do know there is a map getting work done rn
Not related to desert from what we’ve heard
Yeah it definitely would, I'd really like to see a map where players have to be constantly on the move from one oasis because they keep drying up
Eh, I’m not the fan of hotspots
The map in development has redwoods though, which is cool
But what I really meant is that if sandstorms were canon in gateway that would mean the island is located next to a desert which would make it easier to locate it in the world map
Yeah, but it’s just an engine thing, my bet is east asia or the Caribbean
Me neither tbh
It has to be inside the tropics but that only leaves out north America and southern australia
I think that's just an unreal engine thing, not added by devs
That's why most servers don't have them enabled
Are tribals still planned because i cant see how they would fit into lore?
ye
just
more humanoid monsteroid fellas
like this funny guy
we also have a tiny bit of backstory, from Dondi (which might have changed a bit/more formalised because Don had made his big ol' timeline doc last year)
but:
ah yes, i just still picture the old one with the blue tatoos
They began as a retaliatory product by AE as an overengineered answer to
the question of, “What if something hits AE?”, and are an effective deterrent.
those were painful but very funny placeholders lol
as much as I LOVE the style of lore videos/media we've been getting the past 2-3 years
it would be amazing to get some proper lore, somehow, on these fellas
why are you light
that and EIPs, i think, are my two biggest "'proper' lore on them would be amazing"
wihtout light there is only darkness
i lost the claw
I'd like to find some recovered documents from one of the rival companies, documenting a gen 1 attack
aw
Has there been anything new lorewise
since last you were active?
not really no
Don came in for the first time this year
and showed us the big strain DTA
all we're waiting for, at the moment, is to see if LAB IX (when added)
will have some lore documents or not
but never fear
a bunch of playables in around 6 months, i hear!
incoming unreal engine upgrade that delays it by 8 months
funny timing i need these for ref pics for my project 
Now i have to make a 3/4 view of 5th form bc of lima
yay
He made fun of my art 
oh
do you guys think the new trailer will go like the old fan trailer with the strain ending
i know the stars kinda aligned for the old trailer but i feel including a strain teaser at the end is a pretty good way to include that the isle is more than it seems
ig a strain teaser isn’t the only way to go about that though
Strain in trailer would be awesome
im still being made fun of
Bully him
I HATE YOU (platonically) lol
writing time
if not, we riot !!
sick as
i really hope that whatever we have as the main branch trailer/advert
that it properly showcases the vibe and style of lore
something small
but something effective
No notes too? Must be my best one yet.
it's terrible
do better!!
Notes: Gotta go fast
lore
sometimes
i hope so too
I wonder if the “hallucinations” track is referring to dilo’s venom or something else
Haven’t heard that one in a bit so i can’t remember what it’s like. But I’d imagine that dilo venom would need to do a lot more to warrant that lol
What if EIPs dream when they aren’t in a body
TSL deaths trigger cutscenes of lore
That’d be sick
Honestly yeah, that’d be super sick
It’s like showing individual peoples experiences and lore depending on the species
Like imagine this guys been an Omni for ages, you die with specific conditions and are shown a cutscene about a specific person
Have you ever played outer wilds? The life replay would be super cool
I have not
Whenever you die, you flash through a series of images of things you’ve done in that life, it’s really neat
Shows the same tree 4 times as I afk grow as trike lmao (I don’t afk grow)
my whole life flashed before my eyes!
-# it was quite boring.
It would be neat
i love the idea!
make the afk-ers wish they had a cool montage.
Really funny bonus points if it sometimes showed images that revealed just how often you were close to threats
Whether you knew it or not
“Aw look at my life!! Me and my baby and-… is… there was a Rex there…?”
Hell yeah
You’re a prime elder cera, 100%. You go to die of old age unknowingly in a TSL location. Pressing replicate immediately triggers the cutscene. Young man working for AE. He’s a major germophobe. Constant hand washing, disinfecting, mini panic attacks when there’s something icky. He worked on the cerato genome or something. Somehow, he gets wrapped up into the cycle and is placed in a cerato body where he is now eating the most putrid and disgusting things
Ooooo
His own personal hell
Now correct me if I’m wrong, but do the eips gradually lose their humanity the longer they are in the loop?
If so you can make it even more messed up by having him at first still retain his disgust for all things icky. Then gradually through the many lives he has no choice but to eat a putrid rotten body. The first few bites he retches at the taste, has to take breaks in between bites. But after few minutes something inside him snaps and he just chows down.
gnarly
I’d imagine that TSL cutscenes would fall into categories
Lore on AE as a company
Lore on a specific person
The horrors of being a dinosaur
Encoded things that when solved reveal lore or show us a step in getting a strain
Something like that
the isle show
Absolutely love it
.
basically...jurassi park
No
Jurassic Park is missing the whole "There's an ominous AI who has human souls locked in a digital purgatory" thing
More like Jurassic Park combined with 'I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream'
soon...
so basically the ai are dino nerd and breed alot of dino
Scientist works on Omnis, studies, documents, and encourages group hunting and strategy. Finds their coordination fascinating. Ends up repeatedly getting ripped to shreds by pack animals as different prey animals
Imagine if EIPs make stuff up like modern language models do
another patch?
So, are sanctuary mushrooms a type of real mushroom?
hear me out
sigh
almost done 
Oh yall on somethin else today 
This is sick
Beeeeg lights
the isle
Enlarged water buoys
Do they have the same tiny hitbox or is the hitbox giant now
In other words ca I land on them as a Ptera
;-; don’t know. I presume they have the big one
Peak
I tried to find them last night, didn't see anything at highlands, water access, north lake
Maybe it's on the ocean?
<@&933486433342222376> Time to Smite
Beat me to it
what happened to herbis night vision
... this is lore theories.
Yes
ts is just another abandoned island from jurassic world
yeah kinda but also no
why also no?
because nothing about it was for the prusuit of entertainment
there is no park
there is a morally grey company shoving (albeit willing) people into a 1000 life contract that makes them insane
abandoned island with dinosaurs? yes
but thats basically where the similarites end lore wise
The whole thing abt dinosaur testing on a island
Is pulled from jp3
The end goal is very different
Heck the whole thing where human mutant hybrids used for military purposes is quite similar
Military?
In the end aint all of this for war?
Is there smthing i am missing then
Why were dinos even created heck why were hypers all of these strains created then
Cause what i heard was it was for war
Strains are medicine adjacent, the rest is related to rebuilding the environment before/during/after climate change destroys it, likely for something similar to have a monopoly on the environment, allowing AE to make much profit (all the profit)
Not all of the stuff on the island was necessarily intended, either
True, some things happened, and it exists
Using dinos, especially bloodthirsty mutant dinos, for war, is possibly the worst idea ever
Apart from I guess using an abused kid with psychic superpowers as a secret superweapon
^ and heck, strains might have had been an accident creation via climate change as well
Insert clab law
Lol
Forgot how high quality the old kickstarter had of Vega's strain work (although, just the three strained tyrannosauroids)
but nonetheless
forgot how cool they were
especially when not low quality/highly compressed 12x redownloaded pictures
although ancient, they provide some interesting info
like the "total cell count x days" chart for the tisso rex
the hell is "Wwox relative expression"
ye!
kinda strange but funny how people kinda forgot these and slowly applied just generic 'rogue' style ideas on Tissos because (and they forget, only) Reaper is bat-like
i like the idea of just flesh continues growing.
probably something genome related
hmm
explains a portion of the matriarch too, though fanmade
doesn't hurt what we know about her for Evrima as well
but, Tap's fan stuff on it (which likely dates back to comments given by Don on a VERY old stream that i do not know about)
definitely fits more
https://www.cellosaurus.org/CVCL_0290
one of the things on its chart
breast cancer for the last one - HCC1937
$id in Cellosaurus, a cell line database, cell line catalogue, cell line ontology
maybe it slowly produces more and more cancerous cells?
need to check the others
https://www.atcc.org/products/htb-22
another breast cancer cell line
The MCF7 line retains several characteristics of differentiated mammary epithelium including ability to process estradiol via cytoplasmic estrogen receptors and the capability of forming domes. The cells express the WNT7B oncogene.RefHuguet EL, et al. Differential expression of human Wnt genes 2, 3, 4, and 7B in human breast cell lines and norma...
maybe the general idea of Tissos were made to target breast cancer? At least, breast cancer first
Off topic but did you see someone found a cure for pancreatic cancer?
Wait…they did????
Pancreatic cancer, my mistake
Either way that’s awesome to hear
Yeah, they found some new chemicals that ridiculously increase the effectiveness of chemotherapy in mice, so still more testing to be done, but it’s looking very promising
I hope so. Lost some family to cancer so I keep hoping for a cure
Yeah, I’m waiting for more development into brain tumor treatment myself
The line above that also refers to 'GFP' which is Green Fluorescent Protein
GFP is used as a signaler in genetic engineering. Like, let's say that genetic engineers want to express a certain protein, but they can't tell if the gene that codes for that protein is expressed by just looking at the animal. If they attach a GFP tag to the target gene, they will know the target gene is expressed when they can see that the GFP gene is expressed
GFP is funny in that it is a jellyfish gene that codes for bioluminescence under a backlight
its a shame they are gonna get disappeared
So if they've successfully reproduced the target gene, they just have to see if the animal glows under backlight
Also, the GFP gene was one of several used to make 'GloFish' glow
fruit flavoured fish
Oh nice
I think they also got that gene from jellyfish which is cool
And also makes me roll my eyes every time a Jurassic world or similar media has a “hybrid” animal randomly get unforeseen traits like “we gave this dinosaur jellyfish genes to make it glow but now it’s grown venomous tentacles!” or something
Unrelated to that though, it’s been said that Apollo Engineering is just one company owned by a larger parent company right?
If so…
strange
I wonder would this relate to the breast cancer cell lines
As it seems like all 4 are related to such
Tbf the original idea was still pretty rogue/assasin based as well. Also didn’t really make much out of the cell growth
Dino crisis 3
Would anyone think it's fair to say that a number of the species we play as are essentially new, man-made species versus those that are "unaltered"? For example, hererras having the abilty to climb.
Hello
It’s fair to say most if not all of them are
Unlikely that any of them are 100% pure. We don’t even know if the dinosaurs are truly clones that were made from Dina dna or if they were essentially made from scratch to look like what the scientists imagined a dinosaur to be
Although that rex video that had its infrasound calls did imply some kind of rex dna was present
I suspect the Hererra species we play as has the incorporation of a couple of different modern reptiles in its genus: particularly a tree monitor of some kind, and the basilisk lizard or the marine iguana. It would explain how it's so agile and good at climbing.
Not to mention how crazy flexible it is for a therapod.
Have you seen the Augustus video? It goes into Herreras climbing a bit
I have not, actually...
I'm fairly certain there is 0% dinosaur DNA in the game's dinosaurs
That’s what I thought too until that recent lore video with Rex and the infrasound calls
Since it implies that some rex specimens had naturally mutated to re-emerge ancestral traits, which would likely mean that there is some genuine rex genome
Interesting
anyone have an ideas on whaat the conext behind the robo quetz in this is about
We should discuss robo quetz more often tbh
''The body rejects'' is a insane line😭
I think it's mostly for surveillance personally
maybe all dinos are robots. AE made survelliance bots made from dinosaur bones and while testing strains the skeleton of the animal regrew its body over the mechanical workings [definetly not im just spouting nonsense]
Well, are we counting EIPs as robots, and are all dinosaurs EIPs?
Is anything real
(Que Don with the super vague, and infuriating statement that sparks months long debates)
what more could you expect from the isle
Do the weapons get EIPs
Do the strains
I feel like strains would be a punishment more than anything
are the EIPs capable of conciously acting out, or do they just go feral
If they are capable, does AE misread them acting out as going feral
Weapons as in gen1?
Anyways I know the popular idea of roboquetz is that it’s meant to be a discrete way of surveillance on the island, but to me that just doesn’t make any sense
Mhm
Well in legacy, quetz was one of the animals that was stolen yes? Maybe robo quetz was a way to spy on other companies before they acquired the asset
Why would they choose to only show this in one of the many concept arts?
There's likely more we just don't know yet
But it's oddly specific, if they have different robots for different species why only showcase it on one concept art? It's also odd that they would choose the quetz which isn't even a dinosaur
Maybe, idk how much of that is basically just primal carnage lore though. The isle/pce lore there was phoenixs quetz escaped, and you can see it flying around on atrium c map where it escaped from
A 40 foot wingspan hyperpredator imitation is NOT discrete, that won’t put the animals or people you’re spying on at ease. Better to have a regular drone that’s smaller, or trail cameras, or anything else. It’d be like trying to monitor animals in the African Savanah by using a fake lion with a camera in it
I do have some other ideas though
A. “Scarecrow” function, flying an imitation of a quetz around an area could potentially deter other pterosaurs and some dinosaurs from an area, making it safer for humans
B. Not meant to be functional for a certain purpose, but moreso a “science experiment”, testing technology for anything from experimental aircraft, to bionic prosthetics, to their EIP stuff
C. It not only looks and flies like a quetz, but can also attack like one, so it’s a drone that can also skewer somebody if desired (I feel like this is unlikely but who knows)
Mb quetzs fly at a higher altitude that any other flyer on the island so they chose it as a moving camera
Paleobiologists have theorized that azhdarchids were high altitude flyers, so this has always seemed pretty plausible to me
Why not just have a regular drone at that point then
perhaps they had better genetic engineering tech than robotics tech
Bc it could get eaten by a real quetz XD
One that flies just as high/higher, faster, and is smaller and doesn’t make your target of interest look up and go “ohshititsaquetzimgoingtohide”
If anything I feel like a drone that mimics another quetz would be at higher risk of unwanted attention than a small drone would be
Have you ever seen a turkey vulture go up real high? They are big birds but they just turn into a speck in the sky
Azhdarchids likely went even higher because of their massive wings
Idk, I think at any point of the reasoning we have to take in account that they could be applying the rule of cool
Yeah but not only is this an animal way larger, but also at the point where it’s essentially a speck, what’s the point of it being a decoy when a normal surveillance drone would be way cheaper and smaller and more efficient
I think it's because at higher altitudes you need a bigger surface area because the air is thinner?
Mb the model we see on the concept art is not complete and the real one has a skin that mimics the real animal
Oh I have no doubt that from a writers/developers perspective, the concept of “cool robo quetz” came before the function of it
But if you’re going to make a reason for its existence after the fact, at least pick a good one
In my mind a normal drone would get taken down by one of the flying reptiles of the island
Like i totally get robo quetz for the sake of robo quetz. It’s cool
But if you then need to write in a reason for it, imo “surveillance” is a weak one
I think they already had the quetz for other reasons anyway, and chose to turn it into a drone
Also remember this was the 90's-00's, and even drone tech in our universe was still relatively new. I remember the 90's and civilian/commercial drone use was nearly nonexistent, and the military ones were as big as a plane anyways
I’m just thinking of how fast, maneuverable, and high-flying modern drones are, I think the odds of a pterosaur honing in on it would be pretty low. And since they’re also cheap, worst case is you lose one on rare occasions to a ptera
If roboquetz was a 90s thing that would make more sense yeah. Less competition with small scale drones
But they could be ambushed if they don't have perifferal vision (idk anything abt drones)
Most have pretty good camera vision, and also if it’s flying super high it’s hard to get ambushed usually
For all we know the drone tech in this universe was even worse than our own in the 90's. I remember a conversation once with Isaac where we wondered whether the Cold War and the space race even happened in this universe, and we honestly don't even know
Usually alternate universes don't really change that many things
It is going to get weird at times in general when it comes to tech in this universe I think
Instances where this 1990s company on one hand is using dial up internet, and on the other is creating neural links between bodies and creating life on a level we can’t comprehend
Also whatever type of AI that the replicator is
Ai is typically best at matching/sorting things, and doing that for various genes seems like a good application of such
Imo though roboquetz is more of a general testbed for various tech. Even modern day engineers are looking at pterosaur biomechanics for aircraft, robotics groups are experimenting with different animal and human anatomy, and for all we know, roboquetz could be partially organic, meaning testing the viability of “cyborgs” more or less
oh indeed, genetics is a very promising field for upcoming ai tech
Plot twist: the reason the south pond on spiro dried up was due to replicator using all the water
I wonder at times, if AE has such good biotechnology, maybe their powerful computational abilities are possible with biocomputing? Maybe they are using a brain in a jar (so to speak) to do the heavy computing that is required for this complex level of genetic engineering
I wouldn’t be surprised. Especially since things like echidna exist
Is the replicator run off of one or more brains?
I wouldn't assume Echidna was any planned thing on the part of AE. It's possible they made it in a lab, or it's possible that a Gen 1 was infected with neuro strain "in the wild" and outside of controlled systems
We can't say either way
But yeah
It really doesn't seem like their average desktop computer systems were very complex, but perhaps the supercomputers had biocomputing
Probably, but the fact that they kept it around and clearly did a lot of neurotenic testing and development might also lead back to some concept of “brain computer” stuff
Although iirc the main purpose of neuros is Alzheimer’s related
Some of the computers around the island definitely look like standard 90s box computers lol
to be fair i kinda forgot lol
but
the cell-like identity of Tissos really did just kinda fade away into just indom camo generic rogue dinosaur
just through the power of times erosion of memory
it would be something quite interesting if EIPs in Evrima were just inverted
from the mind of the flesh to the mind of the artificial
or maybe if NEIPs were supposed to be this
to be fair
the one reference of NEIPs doesn't really seem to point to something like this.
but it was such a minimal reference from oh so long ago
may or may not be working on a project for my lore theory now LOL
yay
rawrblox
properly 3D modeling this as best as i can
"Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution"
^for context as well
that being the only reference of such (NEIPs)
Non-Embryonic Intelligence Profile?
kinda interesting how much, in legacy lore, "Profiles" (thus relating to EIPs... and presumably NEIPs as well) were referred with Tartarus
Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study
User Inquiry: Tartarus ... This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the profiles during phase four
User Command: Transfer EIP ... Error: Location Unknown ... Error: You are in Tartarus. ... Error.
User Inquiry: Who is watching us?"
"All profiles submit information to the replicator. The replicator compiles this information and redistributes it upon Gateway."
(Gateway being gateway to Tartarus — even back in Legacy times, albeit the idea of Gateway was definitely very painful to understand)
theres a tiny bit more
maybe it is not a painful amount of a lot — thus being Legacy lore.
But it certainly does raise a brow
you were never short of seeing a Tartarus ... or gateway ... reference when profiles were mentioned. Or vice versa.
These quotes almost make it sound like Tartarus acts like a purgatory for these EIP's between bodies
something i do believe is possible, certainly
I've referred to them as such before, a while back now.
-# i wrongly quoted someone, so i am glad i realised my mistake ... because it was only a theory.
trying not to make it sound passive aggressive / ego-y
that second line is a pain to write
but yes
i've woke up late today and a bit of a mess (dog was blanket)
But damn I had my 4th proper Isle dream last night — which became such a slap when i realised it was a dream
and was reading all the convos when i woke on my phone
Like DAMN
i was really disappointed to realise i or someone had not cracked the secret bit of the terminal
aww
it all seems distant now, that dream
so the actual content of it was a lot more fleshed out
lol
I've had dreams like that
I've got to remember that thing I figured out in dream
But it just slips away like water in your fingers
quite funny how our brain almost immediately recognises unimportance of the dream
and switches off almost all access to them
Is that it?
Or is it just how our brains process memories?
I dunno, I don't know much about neurology
i suppose it may serve no importance to our survival as a being
so i presume it just survival instincts of the brain kicks in — life over fantasy
unless you really really manifest the dream into your mind again
i wonder if there are any proper papers on them
*preferably a bit nicely summarised, knowing how fat and 'boring' proper scientific papers can be
*
My whole pc was lagging rip
I wouldn't mind more technical lore papers, make people have to actually commit to learn more
And they've show they're already open to such with the plant breakdowns in the the dibble video
exactly
i suppose, always a bit hard/slow for Don to write
At least, but quality takes time
Shorthand lore documents
Just a random footnote at the end of a document about dietary preferences for spinosaurus (Neurotenic specimines did not exhibit these behaviors)
the last two videos were a pleasant surprise
especially after that drought
Or like the feathered galli thing
I'm hopeful for the steam trailer
I want to wish there could be something hidden
maybe even a little easter egg — or stretching it... something that may lead to a bit of a scavenger hunt, dare i say it
but my expectations are definitely low
however, a little nod to lore would be a very welcome surprise
'they didn't do that'
Give some sort of teaser
quite so
-# on the topic of 'technical' lore papers. Man it will be something when (well, more so if) we finally get some hard old lore on EIPs. I wonder when our first proper implementation will be. Not including if SYNTHs are EIPs or anything. More so something that proper dives into EIPs in some way/form or another
Or a summary of something like "Study of MIN 1.2.47 was concluded when it was set upon by a juvenile ████████ carnotaurus released from lab █ to which the carnotaurus accidentally ████████ resulting in the demise of MIN 1.2.47 as a result of blood loss"
guys, i think it might be a protoceratops
I wonder if AE descriptors get into the mechanism and cause of death, like yeah, the cause of death was troodon bite, but the mechanism of death was severe bleeding in the brain leading to a seizure, cause given the sort of funkiness they're dealing with, that can be important
Or just more info on neuro goo
did the community lore forum ever come back online?
hmm
(Kadin has been busy with work, being funny programmer, so running it got a bit harder to do. He also said he might be doing something with Isle, on lorecord a long while ago, but no idea what has happened with it. And if something has happened, it could be under NDA)
I see
but yeah
nothing yet for the forum
hopefully once back up, it is more easily findable on the web
I think another reason was hypers kinda fighting for space in that area since they’re also identified by their insane regeneration and cell growth, being compared to Wolverine and all
The cell growth has mostly been a blink and you’ll miss it thing for most people
and yet, on technicality, they were related to two completely different things 😔
Love the skull head
Yeah I think hypers more advanced cell growth through regenerating/healing and tissos are (were?) moreso just really adaptable and “changing” through their cells
I’d love to see tissos not only change colors, but change textures to some extent, like octopus/cuttlefish
Things like growing tassles on their body to mimic foliage, or a rocky texture to blend into, well, rocky areas, or whatever
yeah
Hypers being given its traits because their endocrine is just massively powerful — thus super hormones
where Tissos are given alternative / improved / whatever sci-fi thing you can do to cells, thus given its traits
Cell?
all we know, for Evrima Tissos, is just regen of limbs
NOOOO
To some extent I guess we can gauge tissos as a whole off of evrima reaper
The fact reaper as a general concept hasn’t changed much means hopefully tissos havent either
hopefully yeah
would love to know why breast cancer cell lines were referenced though
lore!!
there will be a day, a time, where most will be revealed and/or found by us
it just feels like the meme of being too late to explore the world, and too early to explore the galaxy
On the tisso rex background?
I think they were said to maybe be a cancer treatment thing
this bit, yeah
Cancer is unregulated cell growth. Tissos are supercharged advanced cell growth
Deadpool moment basically
“We cured your cancer by making your cells regenerate too fast for it to kill you”
Is it breast cancer specifically or just cancer in general
all those cell lines are just breast cancer
this was my thought
especially
targeting breast cancer first ... maybe
I think that’s the most commonly researched cancer so makes sense ig
probably yeah, for targeting it first
Looked into it a bit more and yeah those cell lines like mcf7 are some of the most commonly used for cancer research so makes sense
Although I will say, I take some of the details in those concept arts with a grain of salt because the nitty gritty of some of the science just doesn’t make sense sometimes
I didn't know that they are doing hotfixing rn.
Tissos being a result of cancer of some kind with all the cell related stuff could be interesting
Immortal cancer cells are already a thing, just throw a lil starfish dna in there
MCF7 BT-474 MDA-MB-231 CC1937 all appear to be for breast cancer
The taxonomy tree in the background of hyper rex concept is kinda wacky, neuro rex paper has certain blurbs just repeat over and over, etc. also the raptor strains making up “deinonychosauroid” and “megaraptoroid” since those aren’t real
what is we talking about gang?
😭 🥀
old old lore
Also has anyone noticed this in neuro rex concept. Looks like brain mri scans?
I think they might be fossil brain cavity casts
looks stony to me
that has to be the least brain looking brain ever
kinda've a shame our glance sheets aren't a lot more eye-candy-like
humans one
dinosaurs nill
forever on top, get dunked on prehistoric braindead organism
I hope we get something besides glance sheets for other stuff. More “research experiment” format for some strains, and maybe something like legacy dossiers too
Humans have really weird brains compared to literally every other animal
The spine has to take this weird 90 degree turn to go into the base of the brain
just another sign of our sheer excellence
the day we finally get a proper new lore document
seeing as the last 'proper one' was in 2022 (ERRANT-291)
will be a good day
it is a pain knowing Don has officially made (to our knowledge) a handful of documents in-between 2022 to now
but has never released them yet
like the thing relating to NHJs
in-game release 🙏
kinda the hope with the terminal 😔
to at least help stuff like that get properly communicated in-game
Presumably Rex has a glance sheet sitting around somewhere since it was blurred but shown in its trail cam
i do not want to imagine a timeline where every lore document we get in-game is just a low quality screenshot from in-game 🫠
albeit, would be fun to try and recreate
just have to hope you can read it
yeah
i do like the updated format of it
Hopefully if we can collect them in game we can pull up some menu where the ones we’ve collected can be read in high-res quality
i wonder if it will infer a future or past moment in time
because it uses a different format
or it is just an alternative glance sheet format
used at the same time as the other dino glance sheets
I would much sit through a lore drought and receive a lore miracle upon the final touches to humans as opposed to being constantly drip fed lore in discord
the good news is that Don has seen me and others (and acknowledged such) talk about this issue
yeah
bringing back lore to the original wants of lore exploration
like what is said on the old kickstarter and the steam page
Thats also why I was disappointed in seeing the Hyperendocrin in the recent most devblog, I thought we weren't going to see anything strain related again until one day they just appeared in-game
To some extent during this drought I’d like to get told what shouldn’t be considered lore anymore. If Soon™ we get actual consistent lore then right now I’d like to be told what we should be throwing into the trash as canon
There’s a lot of stuff that is uncertain if it’s even canon or relevant anymore
i really appreciate Don giving us stuff from time to time though
like i am thankful that Don knows we want stuff
whilst we're in this painfully long era of waiting for lore to truly begin
Endure the pain!
I kinda hope that’s not the case anyway. if they want it to be a surprise, that’s fine, but the general playerbase should be reminded that strains do exist and are a thing before they get shoved in. Give some teasers, some lore info on them, etc, but keep the actual surprise
I’d be willing to be most of the 2026 playerbase doesn’t know what a strain is. I see a lot of people in Islecord nowadays have to ask “what’s a hyper” or “what’s a strain”
i think Don wants us (besides from the obvious — PC(and E) ) to just and glue things together
fill gaps in ourselves using the best of our theory-work, etc
rather than give us everything
i know this wasn't what you were truly saying
but i think this probable Don thought applies to what you say, on a larger scale
Yeah Im very different, I side with the side of Dondi which is sort of just You see what you see, and understand what you understand
Yeah I’m fine with putting the puzzle together, I just want to know what puzzle pieces I should be throwing out lol
Like being told to forget anything to do with primal, although sad, was helpful at least. Otherwise we’d still be connecting them
i believe the actual reference Roon is rooning about was definitely more on the line of 'we ain't going to get CCs to play before, we aren't gonna have devs play around in the world. It'll be dropped when it is dropped'
which i think Roon assumed it meant with everything
even development
Probably
maybe that is it
maybe all that has been truly thrown is just PC lore
to be fair
the more lore we get, the more I see the similarities with Legacy
of course, little things have and will change
but there are still a fair amount of 'big' things that haven't changed on the big picture
I think the average player needs to be at least shown that this isn’t like the other dino survival games in terms of setting. This is why there’s a ton of new players who don’t like the idea of humans or strains or sci fi stuff, because to them they’ve been accustomed to the traditional POT setting of just dinosaurs, and since there’s been very little mention of the other stuff, it feels out of left field
Keep the mystery and the shock, but don’t drop players into the middle of the ocean
no shade or anything!!!!
i was under the assumption for a tiny bit as well
but i'm fine with little bits of dev in the background being remembered, like what Dash said
Off with the lights
NOOOO
Yes saar
Yeah that I’m all for. No big trailers or etas or devblog updates telling us they’re next hordetest or anything. But still tell players what they are, that they are a part of the lore, and that they are something they will be dealing with. Same with humans, players should be acclimated to them a bit before throwing them into the game
They'll find their way to shore, I'm sure
PR still needs to exist with them, to some extent
well so long as the booty clenching stuff remains shrouded in darkness and a lack of understanding, I'll still be satisfied
kinda hoping Strains get a tiny tease
maybe it may have been why the funny hades... the funny H Carno was teased with animation in the dblog
maybe it'll get a little glimpse in the steam page advert
a backdrop with dead neuro corpse sitting on the surgical bed in the corner of a dimly lit room
yeah
something small and neat
and enough for a general isle player to be like 'wtf was that!?'
Yeah for the average player if they just logged onto their Dino sim after downloading some random update, and suddenly saw a human running around with a gun, they’d be sent into shock and probably upset since “this isn’t the game I signed up for” (it was you just didn’t know)
Tease them, use lore stuff and environmental stuff to make general players aware they’re a part of the game, and ofc update the store page to send that message into people’s heads
hopefully gen2s get some sort of spotlight in the advert
Yeah they shouldn’t have a light shined on every detail, but enough should be shown to actually have interest rather than confusion
Cryptic teasers, basic explanation like the concept arts of olde, maybe add a big footprint somewhere on the map
at least teasing their proper gameplay style
basically like lore
in the shadows
mysterious
lots of uncertainty and shrowded guesses
Like how rex was teased in diablos trailer
erm you mean the mighty allosaurus
I forgor
it was a protoceratops!!!!
Rex was in some trailer with the roar
seeing that shadow now makes it so much more obvious
lol
Are island walkers confirmed dead? I thought they were too
no word on them since they were basically first brought up
same with the primordial
What the hell is the primordial i haven’t heard that one
man
Dash
you're making me really want to do my proper Dondi interview idea
you might remember this picture quote
Oh I think I do remember that
Please
i've been thinking about it for a year now
aye
Was the big lake skeleton ever identified as any certain thing? I thought it was an island walker
hahaha....
you know the answer, Dash 
if it was a lore interview, i'd imagine that would be like trying to get blood out of a stone
If Dondi never told us I’m just going to assume it’s the founding titan until told otherwise
it was probably an island walker
could have been a matriarch — likely why it was moved to titan lake
but like...
Did that skeletons appearance predate aot final season? Yes. Therefore Dondi knows aot author and knew the finale beforehand
yeah...
which, to me, feels like a bit of a problem
guh!!!
My assumption for a long time was matriarch but someone at one point told me it wasn’t matriarch and was an island walker
how old is this?
could have been me, maybe
I know for a while, a lot of 'us' thought it was the island walker
instead of, like, looking at old messages and seeing
no
we don't know
Didn’t a YouTuber do a Dondi lore interview back in legacy
a bit old
MeatyLock or Anthomnia, probs
there were a lot more Lore dicussions with people from Dons discord on stream
Yeah my gut answer was always “big sail, maybe matriarch morphed from a spino and got big and died in the water”
like with some characters who should not be named
mmm
Yeah I remember other devs doing qna with Dondi on lore
Punch a few times
Although at the time I didn’t know it was lunch it was just some random British guy
its funny hearing Punch in some of Don's older streams
he sounds so innocent compared to Don
Don just had that scary amount of passion put into the way he described things
lol
there were a few non-devs
i remember there a big ol' powwow sort of stream
i believe from 2017?
basically on the topic if PC is canon or not, lol
(Dondi talking:)
There's no connection to PC.
As much as you guys like it,as great as it would be.
No.
Like, there's nothing Primal Related in this game.
Hmm,That's not going to happen.
I Tried that like , at the beginning of The isle and i told all of you at the beginning of The Isle :
'I'm trying to get PC into this game'.
Like,it's...no.
I thoroughly exploited that option.More importantly,recently,I thoroughly exploited that option.
the whole version of this was very interesting
and was before PC was made canon and before CCH
so yeah, definitely 2017-ish
carnage comes home, except it never came home
Isn’t he like early 20s? Was probably like a teen in those streams lol
i believe he is a bit older
but still relatively young back in those streams
Hi Lore wizards
I have seen some of the human construction side has black areas where we cannot go
Those areas are still in dev ?
Yeah
They will have connections to the HUB it it ever gets made or other structures
Through corridors like what connects the Docks and the tower or swam and delta
Haha... yeah...
Hub though
There would have been multiple
Like the original LAB IX
What structures do you think will get made
What are the ones you given up on
in terms of what we're getting instead of the Hubs?
all we have, right now, is the redone LAB IX
but honestly
no idea what i really want
just things that make logistical sense, as much as they can
I know what you want…. LORE
i come back to this thing i said earlier today, though
there will be a day, a time, where most will be revealed and/or found by us
... it just feels like the meme of being too late to explore the world, and too early to explore the galaxy
we just in the middle of a greater 'nothingness' (for lack of a better word — waiting.
of course
we get bits of pieces, here and there
but we're definitely not where we once were
and not in what Evrima will almost definitely have, a proper golden age for lore and exploration
Later
soon...

Hi Daviid!
Hi Light!!
👋 !!!
Hi Ben
added a little bit upon Injection Sites
hi...!!!!
help me im on overwatch send help
Injection Site
- A point/location (“site”) that has been selected to introduce (“inject”) an animal or batch of animals — likely only of the same species. We do not know if there is only one ‘injection site’ on Gateway (location referred to below) or several. May vary depending on the current Gateway/island ecosystem.
- Seen in “File Recovery: USGX-9921-C578”
- Located in GW_Q10 (Bottom most point of Gateway’s Swamp), the location where a herd of (F36 ) Diabloceratops 0.1.2 were injected into Gateway
should be fine
oh... i'm sorry...
why
Cerato please stop 😔
oh.
Brussel
aw
this man thinks the golden era of lore didnt already happen in 2016
isle lore was so outrageous and badass
they shouldnt have toned it down
oh no, not at all
there was once a time
and there will be a time
foolish mortal
to be fair, if anything, the golden age wasn't just in 2016, but more so 2017 into 2018. Such a time when lore was madly discussed, not just by a select few. And many questions were still on the table, for quite a few things were yet to be found
and such
I do believe we'll reach a time where we won't have to wait a year and a half for a piece of lore
theres an anky face in my trike frill, Anky release tomorrow?
wait, now I see two bears high fiving
lol
it's a fly
i see a frog... QA... 
It is what you wanna see!!
Hello anyone reading in the lore theories channel. I would like to post something!
This is something that I believe is important to me — as some of you may know from my mentions of this for quite a long time now
That being, I would like to set up some sort of interview/episode with Dondi (specifically about lore)
Something interesting, fun and exciting
Hopefully something Dondi can use to scare us and, yet, excite us.
Problem is I need questions
And instead of just using painfully written questions and/or topics that I have down.
I kinda really want the community to be as involved as they can be with this
So I have a google form link (no data/gmails are saved as well, all anonymous)
https://forms.gle/T94TXK4FWThKnYUJA
Hi there, this is Lightclaw / Isaac
I just want to put out here two pieces of FAQ before you give your question or questions for Dondi, so please read!
- I do not know if I will be able to have a proper podcast / interview with Dondi, especially one about lore. I hope this does not push you away from giving a quality question or two! I reall...
you don't have to write anything, especially no immediately/straight away. If you are interested but unsure of a question right away feel free to save the link and write anything down in your own time when/if you're ready or have something on your mind that you would love to get answered. If possible
Also, i don't mind if these questions/topics are legacy related
IF this ever truly comes into fruition
I have no idea what criteria Don may or could have
that print similar to trike skull
I’d imagine this would go way better than the last interviews don had.
“Why can’t cera kill stego”
Yep that one
" instead of left completely wondering.