isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

(I imagine Tartarus being an uglier job then anything else)

[frozen totem]

yep, or have your conciousness transferred into a horrid abomination

[acoustic osprey]

as much as i want to envision Tartarus being this underground megalab that is pristinely white and clean and sterile and bright

[frozen totem]

I mean the messes have to be BAD

[frozen totem]

I envision it more as a cold, dark, dirty dungeon where the worst of the worst are held and tested on

but thats just me

[acoustic osprey]

and 'lineage' is quite specific as well

it almost has to be referring to something more sci-fi-esque related
thus EIPs

[frozen totem]

yeah i agree

AE isnt normal enough for it to mean family relocation

[acoustic osprey]

like it could be referring to your children working at the lower levels
but do AE really imagine themselves as this long grand project?

[frozen totem]

also idk about child labor

[acoustic osprey]

like we do know all who work are expatriates
therefore meaning they literally work, live and (likely) die in these specific areas they are relocated to work at

[frozen totem]

AE is morally grey but like, why use child laborers when you have adults?

[acoustic osprey]

children as in when they become adults, of course
and their children
and their children...
etc

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-dexter-morgan-idk-gif-2440520923239485215

[acoustic osprey]

because lineage displacement seems to be either one of two threats

Your EIP lineage
Your blood lineage

EIP means AE is worrying about your future replications as a worker
therefore all (or most) workers of AE are EIPs ... therefore human SYNTHs?

or
Blood lineage, which would mean AE's 'goal' or purpose is generations-long
As if they plan for a very long time of work. Because all workers (at least we know most) are expatriates on AE soil
therefore, your children and your family and all their comes are feudalised to the bottom class of workers
(at least, whatever 'working at tartarus' relates to in some sort of hierarchy)

[frozen totem]

hmm
Lots to wish dondi would tell

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[ornate comet]

<@&933486433342222376>

[acoustic osprey]

The eradication of the TOMB

was it ever fixed? remade?
Maybe i should re-read the old messages

[lethal moat]

We know it's related to EIPs somehow

[acoustic osprey]

this is true

kinda curious though if there is more context to the eradication bit though, from those convos

i think it was split into two or three

he said there was something like the library of alexandria (even though irl, it wasn't truly what we think of it as)
he revealed something happened to TOMB
then i think you said something about purging, then he clarified to be eradication

all in three or four different convo dates

-# saying that. This was pre-2025. So who knows what changes or re-writes Don may have added or removed in regards to TOMB

wow going through old chats is kinda sad
some fun chats

[tranquil flume]

https://tenor.com/view/200000-units-are-ready-million-more-well-on-the-way-gif-15836182220374518965

[west sinew]

this game is real life

and i mean it

[sly finch]

Possible dumb question but is the wiki culled of scrapped lore etc properly?
Also are there any other sources of lore someone could point me out? Makes man sleepy to dig around so much

[lethal moat]

Best to not trust the wiki

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit This is the most up to date I believe

[acoustic osprey]

this is true

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
the big wiki is full of a lot of legacy or misinfo (wrong info by mistake)

and the survivetheisle wiki, which was done by a few of us, hasn't really been updated in quite a long time

[sly finch]

cheers guys appreciated

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!
There's also a few youtube videos that are quite up to date as well, if you're interested in something more visually easier then the document

but if you have any questions, feel free to send them here

[sly finch]

Yeah I wouldnt mind a link for that. Didnt mind much on youtube personally. thanks again

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message 🙌

completely found this by mistake

based off the PanaSync S70

https://www.fab.com/listings/1d9edbd4-9869-4f4b-9242-8fcfec52c43d
which means second marketplace pack found, first being the original vending machines

however this computer

doesn't seem to be in the pack though

Triniquad EPI

[acoustic osprey]

OHHH it also has the RAM books as well

plus the cds lying the floor in the corner room

[acoustic osprey]

wow Trike TCAM video was basically 3 weeks ago

[civic pollen]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

With main branch being next
I really hope this year is THE year for lore

[undone vault]

Hear me out, the isle was never done by humans, the dinos are made by an alien entity and the humans are infiltrated aliens ciberrobots that examine their behaviour and evolution in the ecosystem

[fast forge]

insert random take that involves dinosaurs but with no research into the established lore

[undone vault]

Apollo is kinda alien spaceship name

Trust, they also have a replicator like ark that makes the things

My theory

[fast forge]

Just because two things (AE and the Apollo program) both use a greek god for inspiration doesn't mean they are thematically connected

Also I'm pretty sure the director said there are no aliens in this story at all

[fast forge]

Also, Apollo is a human spaceship name, not alien

[tranquil flume]

Specifically the landing people on the moon project

Also it’s the name of the Greek god, Apollo. The lore has heavy greek inspirations to many of the projects that AE has

[acoustic osprey]

meanwhile it should've been named Helios - as no actual Greek poet is known for making Apollo ride the chariot ... as it was only Helios, the actual god (Titan) of the sun

-# And the only time that the two are confused (Helios and Apollo, in myth) is at the birth of the Roman Empire, from the Republic, after the time of the Roman poet Virgil

[candid nova]

did anyone ever bother figuring out what the dinosaur in the isle's logo actually is...?

i would have said trex and called it a day but it has a forward-facing nose spike which is odd

[tranquil flume]

It’s a rex lol

[civic pollen]

i think it's just the mossy-stringy-fleshy bits hanging off of the skull

[tranquil flume]

Rotting dangly fleshy bits lol

[civic pollen]

correct. idk why i think moss.

[tranquil flume]

Haha they do look like vines

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah pretty much

[hollow island]

Just noticed how the rear of the skull or head looks a bit like a mountain.

[acoustic osprey]

true

as if on an isle...

perchance

[gaunt dawn]

The isle!?

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the other Apollo companies do, and the rival companies, are they in the same field as AE or just similar enough to be a threat?

[tranquil flume]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-confused-whar-thousand-yard-stare-gif-15486282906915863374

[tranquil flume]

i would imagine it to be that trial scene from ironman 2 with the different nations trying to make suits and failing miserably

like they have something close to a dinosaur but not quite

[lethal moat]

We know there was climate change stuff, so what if one of AE's direct competitors just makes like, super efficient carbon filters?

[tranquil flume]

maybe? depends on what the climate changed to

[lethal moat]

True

[acoustic osprey]

if this is anything

They were swinging at an even level. AE grew; they did not. Punching up now.

(For the three main rivals)

-# used to be two till the beginning of the year ... forgot that bit. EF!!!

wow
it is exactly one year ago that we got this

but i would assume that FnV + OTC + EF all have some things in common
like InGen vs BioSyn

but how similar / alike

is definitely an interesting question

How far away can you go before it seems a bit weird that "X" company would worry about AE
Or how close till it becomes close enough to be trying to leech off AE (like BioSyn in JP), as we know AE succeeded the most out of all of them

[deep dust]

So it might not be a place holder?

[acoustic osprey]

oh no quite likely

[deep dust]

might be or not be lol

[acoustic osprey]

95% likely to be placeholder

[deep dust]

kk

[acoustic osprey]

i really hope this is the year

[frosty root]

Is v3 still canon to some degree or no? I have a little theory that v3 is actually tartarus

i think it’d make sense because from what i know most of the creepy sci fi stuff is in tartarus and we did see strains and what not on it back in the day

[lethal moat]

That's legacy, so no

[acoustic osprey]

if we ever get Tartarus, it has to be connected through Gateway somehow

of course, anyone regular would say 'timeline update 2025 likely changed it'
but ever since legacy times, Gateway has always been 'connected' to Tartarus in some form or another

so i doubt we'd see a change any time soon

however, as Rump said
v3 ain't canon ... yet

v3 may make some return in some form or another
Seeing as, in-lore, V3 was called "AE-012"

WITH THAT
we know Shirley and others were made in Site 12

citing these:
TYR.12-S.003 [SHIRLEY]
STEG.12-S.012 [SALT]
HRS.12-S.174 [AUGUSTUS]

etc
etc
which actually means "Site 12" (or some sort of location 12) seems to be a major 'replication' and/or creation facility

we also have a "Site 10" (INTRUDER)

(again, when I say 'Site,' we don't really know if it refers to a site, facility, location, etc.) HECK could be LAB X ... LAB 10. Which means LAB IX isn't the limit and that, maybe, each location has a different LAB number.

[knotty locust]

at 7:04 of the trike trail cam you can see two allos in the background stalking the diablos as they leave

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1458420963887546433/image0.jpg?ex=695f93dd&is=695e425d&hm=209c23ff4757971de970ad56672f56e2de3998fc75f0bd8d1847da0b4e720a38&

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

lol

thats cool

its feels so obvious now haha

[knotty locust]

also the second time skip after atlas dies, you can also briefly see a cerato sprint past in the background

[acoustic osprey]

actually

time to see if these match

GW Area D15 / F10 / E10 / F11 / J8 / K7 / L5 / O5 / H7 / N12

[pseudo lantern]

was wondering what that was

[acoustic osprey]

i remember that one (cerato pointed it out when the stream was happening)

[pseudo lantern]

never looked into it

[acoustic osprey]

curious if there are any more eggs lol

probably not lore eggs but little fun stuff is cool

[gaunt dawn]

Theres lore written on the ceilings

[acoustic osprey]

not yet

[gaunt dawn]

oh

Sory

[acoustic osprey]

don't worry

2026 will be our year
THE year for lore

hopefully

[rough hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-gif-1901237102102427154

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[ornate comet]

My thirst for trail cams has been sated with the time video….for now

[hexed forge]

They're accurate
or at least if I could remember correctly.. I didn't check for it to be 1:1 because yk.. map.. blew up.. but by the grid and general location it semmed right

[acoustic osprey]

highlands...

they match the old gateway, at the very least
which is a bit painful

[hexed forge]

yahoo..

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if the TOMB is in Olympus

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391873304796856433/1391926516929134643/3aug.png?ex=69604016&is=695eee96&hm=ed6170d00057dd007665f116583cc1797b5aa8a35daf7112a5e954996b3b3383&

for OLMPUS relocation AND entombment

[hexed forge]

probably

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[hexed forge]

No worries

And then an archive on each site.
All of them which connect to TOMB, in Olympus. (A whole seperate site from the 12 sites?)

[acoustic osprey]

i kinda wish we had more poetic numbering for Gateway

the number of Apollo is 7, that is his 'mythos number'

ARCHIVE 7
LAB 7
etc

maybe even Site 7

[hexed forge]

but then lab 9..

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, though, I can imagine OLYMPUS being the big number 0 sort of Site
like the Site that feeds to all sites

[acoustic osprey]

yeah thats the thing ...

[hexed forge]

Oh yes a 0 makes sense

[hexed forge]

Surely just a placeholder number that will be changed when its actually on gateway

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[acoustic osprey]

i wish... but seeing as the new Lab got named LAB IX
i doubt it

[hexed forge]

Or it could be referring to numerous labs on just gateway, probably that.

Since just ONE lab on Gateway is weird

[acoustic osprey]

maybe there is some sort of Mythos behind LAB IX
or, LAB IX is truly the ninth lab in Gateway

[hexed forge]

The latter likely

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, pretty much

albeit, LAB IX is massive

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[acoustic osprey]

which is kinda odd

[acoustic osprey]

its supposed to be
basically the 2nd largest singular building we have to date

ignoring the pits as that isn't a singular building

[hexed forge]

I see those buildings being all over gateway tbh

Surely that one lab at the corner of the map isn't enough for the ENTIRE island.

[acoustic osprey]

to be honest
what do they need to be doing with 9 (or more) labs?

at least, we currently see the death bed thingo from the Neuro Spino art
forgot what that is called again
at LAB IX

so maybe they are 'putting dinos in' and then once they die, basically going full in on every malfunction you could possibly find that made such a creature as successful or unsuccessful in its Injection

of course, not the 'sole thing' they would do
I imagine they have thousands of TCAMs as well. So they aren't just going off post-mortem examinations

[hexed forge]

yeah I guess

[hexed forge]

Do the rest of the numbers of 0-12 mean anything?

[acoustic osprey]

let me send the math for how big this would be, give or take

The 2nd picture (Eyes maps of The Isle)
Each cube is 1km x 1km (not perfect, but nonetheless)

The 2nd map's cubes are a bit harder
So I rounded the left-to-right distance to 10 cubes for one point of Gateway (1st map)
which was 18 cubes on the 2nd map

Which translates to roughly every cube in the 2nd map (Blue Gateway) being 556 m × 556 m

which makes the LAB IX size to be around the size of the last picture
which basically makes it bigger then any outpost (in terms of volume, as K15 is now extended)
and also the size of the main entrance area of the East Docks (last picture)

so yeah
its definitley smaller then i realised lol

but sizeable for a human area

of course NOT Dome sized lol

[hexed forge]

Its the size of a large DTA

if not, just a bit larger

[acoustic osprey]

nope

https://gyazo.com/086f763e443f951ff6de5db6c98c8bd0
it would take up this whole space (of the human section with the big spheres)

including the huma buildings next to it (next to the coloured blue water)

basically includes the area of the pit stop station and the same building from the Atrium

where the DTA is smaller

[acoustic osprey]

back to this though
yes

let me write them up (learning some things on the way as well)

[hexed forge]

i see

[acoustic osprey]

Hecate might be 3, but it is not very distinct

Hermes was definitely 4, as cited by britannica and these more primary sources (Paus. vii. 22. § 2; Aristoph. Plut. 1121, 1144; Hom. Od. xiv. 435, xix. 397; Athen. i. p. 16.)

then theres a bunch of people claiming here and there but i can't really see any good sources coming out of them

like this

ik im late to this but! 3 is the Titan Kronos and Hecate. Hermes has 4. Aphrodite has 5 and Dionysus. 6 is Athena. Artemis im pretty sure also has 7 as Apollo. 8 is Hera. 9 is Juno. 10 is Atlas and Uranus. 11 is Poseidon. 12 is Janus. thats all i know of

Some are definite, like Apollo IS 7
Hermes IS 4

but i cannot find really anything substantial with everyone else, basically

i do wonder if the IX has any meaning to it
probably not

but we shall see

[hexed forge]

i see thanks

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

iirc

nothing related to 9, truly by the sources

https://tenor.com/view/it-does-not-exist-doesnt-exist-if-an-item-does-not-appear-in-our-records-does-not-appear-does-not-appear-in-our-records-gif-26247881

[hexed forge]

mmm

And truly nothing on 0?

[acoustic osprey]

oh true

lettuce check the records

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-star-wars-impossible-perhaps-the-archives-are-incomplete-gif-14446354

[acoustic osprey]

yay thank you

zero doesn't really exist in western paganism / mythology

[hexed forge]

wow

mmm

[acoustic osprey]

like would make sense for AE to have a Site Zero (as OLYMPUS) now

but the ancient greeks didn't infer zero with pure maths
it being a larger and more philsophical idea

like in Maltese, the number for zero (like in Arabic) is just 'nothing'
literally the world nothing

which is even more evolved and complicated in Eastern Mythos

makes me wish there were good sources on Chinese mythology and religion out there

anyways lol

[hexed forge]

oh well

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

just have to make something up!

i mean
you could connect zero (nothingness) to someone like Khaos (Chaos)

but i feel like a Site Zero just being true home base, HQ, is more fitting

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[formal mural]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[acoustic osprey]

hi daviid

[acoustic osprey]

oh imagine if LAB IX is at E19

but honestly
I can see LAB IX (and other of those facilities) being near or at Docks / areas with DTAs

just for pure logistics for transportation

seeing as basically no the administration / industrial HUB is basically a no show
because guts...

[frosty root]

Does spiro still have any significance and if not what kind of significance did it have?

im getting kind of tangled up in the amount of islands there apparently are

[snow jasper]

Maybe, it never had any, although it should be said Spiro was said to look better a while back, whether or not it'll return to us is a mystery

[snow jasper]

only concern yourself with gateway

everything else is just the past

[frosty root]

oh

i do hope some maps return tho

itd be awesome to see v3 or thenyaw in the new engine and maybe even reworked

[acoustic osprey]

well it had a tiny bit

[acoustic osprey]

but to what we know right now?
Nothing

Spiro is likely full dead

[frosty root]

😔

[acoustic osprey]

and any lore videos based in Spiro are likely to be fixed (or just ignored / removed)

like the Pachy video or the Galli TCAM video, etc

but to be fair
they're minimally impactful

so nothing crazy with them not coming back ever

[acoustic osprey]

^ this though

plus OLYMPUS and Tartarus
we can't say for certain that they're all indistinguishable and unique islands though

But!
they are distinct areas/locations
no matter how attached or detached they may be physically

as Tartarus may likely be physically connected to Gateway

as Gateway leads to Tartarus, somehow
maybe figuratively, maybe physically

[frosty root]

id honestly would like to see some maps come back

spiro was pretty good in terms of map design and lore potential

just not finished

[acoustic osprey]

soon

only current known "Lore map" is The Reserve

[frosty root]

do we know anything about it?

[snow jasper]

dondi loves his little inlets, it must be said

[frosty root]

thats pretty cool

id love to see it ingame

as like a hunter vs dinos mode

where you would have the normal isle gameplay as a dino but the hunters are out there to just kill you

[acoustic osprey]

i just want TheHunter Primal but Isle with it

even without dinosaur AI
just have a prime TheHunter experience but isled

[frosty root]

that would be so peak

i used to play TheHunter Primal a lot back when i was a kid

i still get scared of the game at times so i dont even wanna imagine that but isled

[oblique pike]

imagine you and your hunting party get ambushed by a prime elder rex pair in the jungle
straight lost world vibes

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

and TheHunter Primal was missing a lot / lacklustre

for me, whenever i try to run it though, it seems to be bugged badly. Sadly.
No idea why

i believe they tried to update it a few years back and killed it somehow

[frosty root]

what bug exactly is happening to you?

if its the game not saving there is a really good video on how to fix it on youtube

its either by Flinter or Fooster i cant remember which since they both actively played the game

[frosty root]

dondi please make this come true

[acoustic osprey]

just constantly crashing

there probably is a fix somewhere
maybe

is weird that it is happening even after re-installing
but could be some sort of cache i'm missing

[frosty root]

might be

ill try to look something up on yt or reddit and see if anyone has any fixes

[acoustic osprey]

thanks!

i really want to play again
give me more hype for nothing!!

(i really want to make The Reseve map as a mod, because its a low chance that it'll be added in-game with proper TheHunter style mechanics)

seems like opening the map crashes, sadly

[frosty root]

ok ive looked around and all i found were some steam forums

that it crashes either on launch or when people do certain actions like collecting dinos or opening boxes

not much in terms of fixes

maybe verifying files could work?

when i get home ill try to launch it and ill see if it crashes or no, because i never experienced any of this

[acoustic osprey]

Been happening to me for years

And I've redownload and verified etc

Sadly nothing just works

Which is a shame

[frosty root]

thats wild

ive had my copy for a good while and no problems

ive seen something about it being something windows related

ill check it out later

[acoustic osprey]

If it is because I'm running w10

That would be weird as I've been able to play before perfectly prior with it

[frosty root]

im also running w10 and ive had no trouble

truly a shame

[frosty root]

also just to get back to this, I dont think the game is moddable either, but i havent found anything that says it isnt

[acoustic osprey]

(For the isle that is)

Because that ms paintmap picture, The Reserve, may... may... come

Might. Maybe.
The hope is that we actually get some lore and or references for it

Hopefully!

I really hope 2026 is the year for lore.

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge
something of interest though, about "LAB IX" ... more specifically the mythos behind nine in greek mythos

That being the Nine Mouses / The Mousai

These were basically the nine children of Zeus that were goddesses of music, song and dance, and the source of inspiration to poets ... alongside goddesses of knowledge and remembering of the past

[frosty root]

🙏🏻🙏🏻

[acoustic osprey]

I don't truly see Don making nine labs to be based off the Mousai
A bit weird for Labs to be named for the children of Zeus and from goddesses that were more on art stuff then science

but
Again. They were also goddesses of knowledge

PLUS, if you refer to Eumelus Frag 35, Tzetzes on Hesiod 35
They were children of Apollon - however, Hesiod only mentions 3 muses.
At the same time Hesiod also refers to the Muses as nine and children of Zeus.
And so some assume that Hesiod was actually referring to the 3 muses as a separate and more ancient set of muses ... and belong to performance and place
Whilst Zeus' 9 Muses belong to universal order and memory

so
again

pain
albeit, i doubt Don went into this nor ANYTHING of this level. At its just a tiny step in that rabbit hole

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-cat-monitor-pc-gif-978658260615984068

[frosty root]

what is this game even about anymore😭

[acoustic osprey]

if i say it enough times, 2026 WILL be the year for lore

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes a bit of this, sometimes a bit of that eh

[frosty root]

i find it very fascinating that a silly little dino game has so intricate deep lore and connections to ancient religion

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

i also sometimes like to make it think Dondi makes it more then it is
because i do enjoy the nice brain candy of thoughts that it do bring

[frosty root]

i really enjoy reading through the paragraphs of how this lab is actually connected to some pagan god or something

overthinking my beloved

[acoustic osprey]

i need to find meaning in the number 9!!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

[frosty root]

isnt that a part of big smokes order from gta san andreas??

[acoustic osprey]

oh true

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[frosty root]

https://tenor.com/view/gta-big-smoke-order-big-smoke-gif-10556192696247051213

[modest talon]

has anyone else noticed that, in the dino select screen, every time you hover over the AE logo, it beeps?

[patent ginkgo]

yes… perhaps an unfinished ui lore thing

like the terminal

[hexed forge]

I see

[hexed forge]

Yes
Means nothing

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[low scarab]

What is your pfp now rump? 💀

I swear u change it every I open discord

[low scarab]

You too now? 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

i don't understand 😔

i have been quite so-ing for years, sorry

[hexed forge]

quite so

[ornate comet]

indeed

[tacit loom]

perchance

[muted reef]

It'll certainly be one of the years of the isle

[acoustic osprey]

NO
The year for lore it upon us

[hexed forge]

Said in 2025

[acoustic osprey]

no

we finally have everything for base game foundation

i just thought they'd put in Elders faster in 2025

but they're in AND they said main branch swap is next

[muted reef]

Now it's time to make cerato 1600 kg's and work on dinosaurs instead of the terminal

[ornate comet]

give me austro or give me death

[fierce cradle]

Does anyone of u have that cerato flying pic

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge

[frosty root]

did gateway have the three domes at any point in time or was it always just the huge atrium and the one in highlands?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-smoking-sad-saul-goodman-breaking-bad-smoking-sad-gif-17031363217318139691

used to have three smaller ones
and one big one (the one we have right now)

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/pigeon-smoking-cigarette-gif-7005519433221201453

[frosty root]

why did they get rid of them?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-castle-the-vibe-gif-6033519

we don't really know, sadly

[frosty root]

honestly such a shame because in some lore videos they do show the entirety of gateway with the domes

i think they probably had to get rid of it because of performance issues

something akin to the problem GUTS had

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

🫠

[frosty root]

i believe we’ll get it someday

and other maps also

[acoustic osprey]

soon...

[frosty root]

trademark

[low scarab]

Next Cerato buff:

[ornate comet]

Wonder how Don will change cera

I recall he said some stuff needed to be figured out before he could “speak it’s evil” or something

[ornate comet]

Also

When Kissen said the boar will get a new model, do you think the model will help us pinpoint where the island is geographically?

Hopefully that woukd be the case and it’s not just some random pig from India they plopped on an island

And that its actually some island pig from Asia/oceania

Assuming we haven’t found out where the island is already…

[formal mural]

Omg

[ornate comet]

<@&933486433342222376>

[merry zodiac]

Probably no, all pigs revert to a wild form that adapts to the regional weather, unless we recieve a specific wild pig that can help, but most likely we get a general boar fitted for a hotter climate

[ornate comet]

I remember someone asked her if it was like a warthog and she said similar species

[spiral elbow]

<@&933486433342222376>

[fast forge]

That's funny because warthogs are probably further from pigs than humans are to chimps

Oh wait no I'm wrong

I'm think of the javelinas and peccaries

[ornate comet]

Ye was gonna say

I pulled up the the whole suidae family tree lol

[nimble fractal]

The conversation is sus

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-absolute-cinema-meme-martin-scorsese-meme-martin-scorsese-absolute-cinema-gif-7188464701423971028

[lethal moat]

Ui fixes could be neat

[acoustic osprey]

they infact did the opposite of neat with the servers lol

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

<@&933486433342222376>

[acoustic osprey]

wow

all main frames of locations from the File Recovery video

yesterday i was on stream trying to match them

these are some of them that i was able to roughly match

not in the best order, woopsie

let me try again

you can perfectly and sadly find the exact location of ATLAS' death (last picture)

[acoustic osprey]

(Where SALT and DUKE are seen in the delta)

[rough hollow]

The day I'm able to make stuff like that is the day I truly lock in.

[acoustic osprey]

soon you shall

[rough hollow]

I'm going into Uni for a degree in filmmaking soon, so that'll be a fun 3 years.

[acoustic osprey]

nice!

i have a friend who is doing practically the same, but i believe only a diploma

i'm the only one doing a proper degree, just to likely work in AV and on-stage production which needs basically none of that besides on how to wrap up cables and set up simple AV systems in
woohoo!!

[rough hollow]

Hey any qualification is a qualification. That's an achievement.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

<@&933486433342222376>

[lethal moat]

Me going for my investigation certificate alongside my degree only for there to be no isle lore to investigate

[rough hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/patience-young-grasshopper-gif-10391979

[acoustic osprey]

they promised lore!! not law!!

new fertiliser perchance

[granite mist]

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[acoustic osprey]

2026 will be the year for lore

[civic pollen]

surely

[acoustic osprey]

not surely, it will be!!

it has to be 😔

[hexed forge]

hop on July lore stream

[acoustic osprey]

main branch swap is this year, unless they really drag out main branch release

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-afc-richmond-believe-gif-22969950

[acoustic osprey]

thats not how it goes!!

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

lore drop in June

[hexed forge]

Oh oops

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pet-cat-monitor-pc-gif-978658260615984068

[hexed forge]

sorry

[acoustic osprey]

it is ok

[rough hollow]

Small thought that probably isn't even relevant anymore. After watching that video you sent me, Lightclaw I had a few lightbulbs in my head go off about the potential 'process' of becoming a Hyper/Neuro/Tisso etc.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Hypers will not be a reward, but a curse. You are chosen by whatever being to succumb to that fate. And the others are the effect of a specific demise you have succumbed to, or the effect of a specific lifestyle you've chosen to have.

[ionic fog]

A shame the maintenance team hasn’t been around to fix the invisible walls

[tired ember]

@soft spade im doing it consistently now @crystal atlas

[acoustic osprey]

the isle lore

[tired ember]

the isle deino torpedo lore

[soft spade]

[ionic fog]

So it’s still a thing?

[fierce cradle]

Guyz what are they planning to add in human

[acoustic osprey]

i'm kinda curious if the developer button is supposed to be unlocked by the terminal

probably not
but it is just curious why they still need to have that button

i suppose for ease
but the server already notices if you're a developer or not
so the button is pretty pointless for the thousands of people who play

kinda funny and interesting how they've been touched up

they're less colourful and more grey, which is more fitting for the brutalist approach

i still find myself asking though
everytime i look at this card reader
What does "Apollo Timit" mean lol

on the top left

or maybe is it T1mit? Or Tlmit?

maybe T with a capital i ?
TI for "The Isle" ... ? who knows

[tranquil flume]

Maybe the model type??

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
just a weird name for it

[tranquil flume]

Mit could be a 3 letter abbreviation for admittance

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

see now if i was AE
I would add a '-' between the two TI-mit

lets sue em and get it changed!!!

definitely could be though
just weird

albeit, something of much important? definitely not lol

[tranquil flume]

Could also be some sort of branding too lol

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
But they already have "Apollo" on it

unless they really picked just a random word to call it

being Timit

[tranquil flume]

I see it more as a branch off of anything

Different product, same brand

[acoustic osprey]

like, i brought up back in long long ago, that it MIGHT mean 'messanger' in Turkish

but two problems

1. Why turkish
2. It doesn't seem like this is correct despite google saying it is

apparently it is a name

but then it says it comes from sanskrit?

which is not a turkic language, being indo-european

[acoustic osprey]

perchance

i shouldn't be surprised though about this

because meanwhile

[tranquil flume]

Powah

It might just be a whole bunch of words put together 😂

Or letters in this case lol

TImitt = The Isle admittance

[acoustic osprey]

just one t at the end though

[acoustic osprey]

probably the closest guess

(if it means something)

[tranquil flume]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-theory-matpat-fnaf-movie-matthew-robert-patrick-gif-8650789653163891524

[acoustic osprey]

i got it, it means!-

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-drag-help-me-screaming-scared-gif-22862413

[formal mural]

Its not lore you dummy

<@&933486433342222376>

[desert mountain]

Guys, this may be slightly off-topic, but i was wondering if any of you know if anyone has ever asked or if any of the devs (mainly Don) has ever said anything related to Peter Jackson King Kong game? (It being an inspiration design-wise, immersion/atmospheric-wise, lore-wise, they played it and liked it, etc)

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/sans-fight-skeleton-gif-18375885

[fast forge]

I mean, I have a Gaelic name but I don't speak any Gaelic

[strong mango]

The l in Apollo are much skinnier than the letter next to T, I think it may be a capital i. I feel like it would have a lil slant at the top or something if it were a 1
T.I
Now there IS something called TIMIT if you know what darpa is.
Texas Institute Massachusetts Institute of Technology. It was a collaborative effort of 630 people recording voice samples. It's not publicly accessible. It's described as a "Acoustic-Phonetic Continuous Speech Corpus"

If you're not from the US DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

PERCHANCE, our sentient computer system uses this phonetic system to communicate verbally?

This could be totally wrong and is likely a big reach but we don't ever have too much to go off of so it's all in good fun. There is a camera and a speaker at the bottom right of that terminal after all

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[ornate comet]

take a wild guess what my name is

[summer totem]

What does this look like if you do it parallel or intersecting to the shore? If that's possible

[rough hollow]

If a Neuro is chasing me as a human I want it to sound like this.
These sounds might be a little distressing so be warned if you're easily scared.

(Audio clip taken from the Kane Pixels Backrooms series.)

[ornate comet]

Fits more for a gen 1 strain than a dino strain

[rough hollow]

Yeah, that too. I think a Dino making that scream would be 10x creepier for me personally.

Especially with how decrepid the Neuros are.

[tranquil flume]

Dinos making a human noise would be so much scarier because you dont expect that kind of noise coming from an animal

[rough hollow]

Especially if this is chasing you.

[tidal pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ohio-speed-ohio-baffled-gif-17947248326914828372

[acoustic osprey]

but the difference is that gaelic and a lot of western indo-european languages share proximity
either physically distance or via cultural/trade exchange

The only exception being afro-asiatic (hebrew) which has embedded itself amongst popular names (like my own) due to biblical and group migrational influence, but mostly biblical

However, the problem is with Sanskrit vs Turkish (Turkic)
Is that it says they're the same word
But Sanskrit and Turkish share minimal historical and cultural alongside physical distance in most regards
Turkish coming from the eurasian steppes and thus larger cultural exchange outside of the steppes (except with uralic and some other steppe groups) was rare, especially direct Turkish to Sanskrit exchange.
And Sanskrit is a Hindu-based religious language that, like Latin, lost its proper native speakers a thousand years before the Oghuz conquered Anatolia off the Eastern Romans.

Ultimately, it is a bit weird
Google AI is just not helpful at times with other languages

i believe it is thinking of a very similar sounding/looking word which is "Stimit" (in Sanskrit)
But apparently has no etymological relevance to "Timit"

THE ISLE!!

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[acoustic osprey]

NOT COPIUM!!!

it truly feels like this could be the year
if everything goes right - development-wise

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

and the 2nd letter the "i" character definitely looks like a capital

That being
you can kinda see a base on it, like in the number 1

[severe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/otis-cow-meme-gif-8311909120636415712

[acoustic osprey]

honestly
its either too pixilated/blurry to see if it has a roof though for the capital I

[acoustic osprey]

#evrima-sa

[strong mango]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-lemme-zoom-in-on-that-zoom-watching-you-spy-gif-5212510

Enhance

[hexed forge]

Does the terminal not work anymore?

[acoustic osprey]

it does

press the delete button if the password screen doesn't pop up

as in

->loading screen
->DELETE
->"APOLLO"

[lethal moat]

Deino with a goblin shark mouth

[hexed forge]

Ahh

[acoustic osprey]

ye

been realising it has been giving me a lot of hiccups
despite not pressing anything before typing Apollo in normally

so luckily Don got the delete put in

[candid nova]

I saw "THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END IS NEVER THE END" on my death screen just now. The isle is canonically the same universe as The Stanley Parable

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

https://tenor.com/view/saul-goodman-summon-jimmy-mcgill-gif-26084512

[acoustic osprey]

now to hope for lore year

[fierce cradle]

are they working on these?

[rough hollow]

They could be. They won't tell us if they are as they're a surprise.

[fierce cradle]

anyhow can I get a job in agterthought heheXD?

[lethal moat]

That’s an unofficial concept from tapwing, so I wouldn’t be surprised if there was significant inspiration from that, but bo guarantees on anything

[timid otter]

Hmmm well if it’s able to mimic voices, then that means the devs would probably have to make communication with humans kinda like Dino coms.

Basically with basic calls and greetings or commands.
Unless they go the arc raiders route of interaction, where you can do quick little commands/ emotes for some quick comms but still have Voip

[fast forge]

I hope human players can dance and do stupid stuff

Let the dinos be serious and "realistic", let humans be silly occasionally

[acoustic osprey]

Need midi player guitar and keyboard

[fast forge]

tbh I remember hearing a lot of midi stuff in that time period (the late 90's and early 00's)

Mostly because back then, the Internet was so slow it took a bit to download one song

But midi files were much smaller, and easier to download

[acoustic osprey]

(more so having midi support so i can input my keyboard)

but midi tech is cool
yamaha really did wonders for the music industry

[pseudo lantern]

keryboard

[pseudo lantern]

thank you

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/vinland-saga-thorfinn-chill-gif-12821818513516801183

[acoustic osprey]

yay

https://tenor.com/view/drama-comedy-amadeus-gif-3482763

i will hopefully spew a lore question for the lore people

[hexed forge]

no

[acoustic osprey]

yes!

[hexed forge]

What is it

[acoustic osprey]

sorry i was on my piano
just collecting my thoughts

but it relates to something that happened with Rdr2 recently
just curious if people would be interested in that type of lore hunt

but more augmented, here and there

let me write it up and give a better example

[acoustic osprey]

So this isn’t really an idea as much as something I’m just putting forward for everyone to ponder.

Revolving with what happened with Red Dead 2, specifically the spiderweb mystery.
This was found fairly recently, either a few weeks ago or sometime in the middle of last year, but still very recent.
Basically, it involves following directions hidden in spiderwebs and other stuff, guiding you where to go.
It’s not story-driven, and honestly not super exciting on its own, but it’s very scavenger hunt-like and ended up taking people quite a few weeks to work through.
And some people think they’ve solved it, but at the same time, they’re not entirely sure.
As the end result, as it stands, leads to a gigantic question mark on a faraway mountain that you can’t really reach.

Some people say it might just be the cave with the giant man, but I think that’s a bit further away and doesn’t really make thematic sense, especially since people have known about that cave for years.
If that cave was always there and easy enough to find, why would these spiderweb clues be such a huge mystery in comparison?

I bring this up in relation to Isle lore.
What I’m really asking is whether something like this could be interesting.
Not that this needs to be the only way for lore to be delivered, but maybe something a bit more follow-y.
But something like the way the RDR2 mystery starts is with a small image, which you then overlay onto the map, and that overlay points you to locations.
Then those locations point you to other locations, which give directions, which lead you to poles, and then you follow those directions to another pole, and another pole, and so on, until you eventually reach X, Y, Z and get whatever the end result is.

I wouldn't hope the end result to be a massive question mark or anything like that, especially since The Isle is more lore-focused than RDR2
But I’m just throwing this out there because it got me thinking.

Feels adjacent to what we got with the Diablo Lore Hunt. Maybe a bit more expanded upon
Find where the camera fell because the description said where it would be, then find the link on it.
That idea could be expanded on a lot. Maybe it could be less linear, too.
But yeah

(this is the link https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-pPQ72n-CPU?feature=share)

[low scarab]

thats actually crazy you bring this up because just a week or so ago i was watching a video about the spider web thing in rdr2 and was thinking to myself "dam wouldnt it be cool if we could see something similar in the isle"

anyways i think the isle has a ton of potential for things like that and in game puzzles all over the map most people might miss would fit really well its only a matter of if we'll ever live to see the day that kind of thing makes it into the game

great minds think alike i suppose

[fast forge]

yo just put this in #general-feedback tbh

[low scarab]

i second that but im sure don is well aware of we are looking for regarding this kind of thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-god-of-war-knees-gods-gif-17928519

[acoustic osprey]

hmmm, per chance i might

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

i think i've said this a bunch of times now, so apologies
but Don basically said when the first Dibble Lore Hunt (The TCAM one) occurred that he wanted to test it / test the system of it (not a mechanic system, but the system of lore hunts)

so i do hope Don it as successful enough to evolve and become something even more engaging and worth while

[fierce cradle]

hi all ,, I just wanted to have some details on the neuro variant spino

can anyone help me a bit ?

[acoustic osprey]

whats up

[fierce cradle]

will that be ok for u if u can give me some info on the neuro variant of the spino saur

how it looks ... how its powers work and if u have any gamepla footage

sorry if i am asking too much

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

theres nothing in regards to Evrima
and basically only the smallest bit of gameplay from legacy

and all it does was walk around

in terms of what it could do in legacy lore?
Eh...it was supposed to have 'weather maniuplation' abilities
but, this seems definitely not the case for Evrima.

[fierce cradle]

can it hypnotize people ?

[acoustic osprey]

however, it definitely had in Legacy, (well was planned to have)
an EMP blast

[fierce cradle]

ok ... do u have any pics

[acoustic osprey]

basically this

[fierce cradle]

are they gonna imple,ent it in evrima ?

[acoustic osprey]

you'll see old channels like MeatyLock and Anthomnia all have videos on gameplay for them
nothing much that they could do, truly

[acoustic osprey]

the hope is yes

[fierce cradle]

aah ok ...thank you so much lightclaw ... ur a wizard

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!

[unkempt perch]

Are they still gonna do the strains?

[knotty locust]

yes

we dont know what strains specifically

or if theres new ones, or what ones have been changed

all we know is that strains will be a thing

we also know, there wont be any progress or information given out about them

they will simply be in the game one day

[valid geyser]

<@&933486433342222376>
mods kill!!!1

thank you mods
evil scammer shall not scam today

[unkempt perch]

Oh ? Why is that the case?

[rough hollow]

So that when you see one in-game, it's more of a surprise and equally more scary.

[knotty locust]

because dondi wants it that way

[unkempt perch]

So not a single info on the patch notes too?

[rough hollow]

Correct.

[unkempt perch]

I mean thats obvious but dont the players atleast need to know how to access a feature thats present in the game

[unkempt perch]

Very interesting

[rough hollow]

You won't access it. You'll probably be chosen. It's not something you'll grind for. It's a curse.

[unkempt perch]

Chosen?

Oh so it'll be random

[rough hollow]

The nature of strains is very secretive. So it's all speculation. I doubt it'll be something like Prime.

[unkempt perch]

I assume it will be grindy cause there has to be smthing after getting 16 mutation slots all filled

I assume you'll be able to mutate into a strain after all those 16 mutation slots are filled

[rough hollow]

Nah. I don't think you'll grind for it. If you're cursed with it, enjoy it whilst you can.

[unkempt perch]

And depending on what mutations you have chosen you'll get hyper and what ever strain planned

[unkempt perch]

Strains being a curse is weird

I mean ya they have a lot of side effects

But still your huge as a hyper and you get so much power sure it will have a large hunger drain but you have a whole server to eat

[rough hollow]

It certainly isn't something I'd want to experience as an animal. They're not just an upgraded dinosaur.
Based on Legacy's old descriptions;

• Hypers are doomed to starvation due to their metabolism being too fast for the amount of food they need in take.
• Neuros are just, I can only imagine, in constant pain.
• The Tissos we (or at least myself) don't know much about.

[rough hollow]

Don has said that the majority of players likely won't encounter one unless they're in a community server or it's datamined.

They will be extremely rare.

For all we know, they could already be implemented.

[unkempt perch]

Ya true but note this is a game and from any stand point implementing constant pain will not be that easy and sure from theoretical stand point its a curse

[unkempt perch]

I see

[rough hollow]

A game that Don has creative direction over. 😅

[unkempt perch]

V true

[unkempt perch]

If they were secretly implemented by now atleast 1 strain incounter should atleast have been documented

Plus i am pritty sure once they are ingame people will eventually find out how to become themb

And i assume non of the monsters from legacy are planned for the game anymore

[rough hollow]

Oh yeah I just meant hypothetically (pun intended).

[unkempt perch]

Yes yes

[acoustic osprey]

yes
we have neuros and hypers confirmedat the moment

well, all the main three actually

Hyper Rex is confirmed
Echidna (human* neurotenic)
Reaper (human* tissoplastic) + Matriarch connected to tissoplastic research

call matriarch a strain though? Kinda, same boat at least

[rough hollow]

You're gonna have to fill me in on the Matriarch.

[acoustic osprey]

for evrima lore, imagine kirby
but monsteroid

basically that

gains traits off what it eats

less tiered then what Tapwing's unofficial lore envisioned

[rough hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-wtf-sokk-trauma-vidman-gif-13583512

[unkempt perch]

So there'll be strains to only carnivores and humans

[acoustic osprey]

(the copy ability specifically)

[rough hollow]

I'm pretty sure my background is of Tapwing's Matriarch artwork.

[acoustic osprey]

probably not just carnivores
but we shall see

in Legacy you would ONLY get strain carnis (plus humans)

but.....
Don said there is nothing stopping strain herbis
so its a maybe

ALSO not to forget strain plants

[acoustic osprey]

ye, and its a beautiful piece of work
C2 is also believed to be THE EYE (of The Replicator)

especially as a motif in Tapwings works

[rough hollow]

What is with all you bots today

[acoustic osprey]

especially while an admin is right in chat lol

[unkempt perch]

So far what i am seeing is almost and i mean quite a few monsters from legacy are making their way into the game

[rough hollow]

I can't wait to learn more.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah! It appears that Don still wants his babies in some way or another
with design changes or some foundational stuff being moved around or properly implemented in

like we literally knew NOTHING for Tissoplastics
besides they were smaller, ignoring the very old Vega tissoplastic art from wayyy back

now in Evrima
we know the foundation for them

[rough hollow]

Curious to see if Hyper Giga and Spino will change in design at all. I know that Rex has.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-silly-seal-ponsuke-seal-tongue-gif-25839635

[acoustic osprey]

cat ear Hyper Rex is funny

seeing as the new H Rex is quite like its elder
like you say, i am actually pretty curious to see those other apexes as Hypers

[unkempt perch]

Though the time it will take to implement almost every single one of them while we havn't even scratched to surface of the main base roster of 60 creatures and the fact humans dont really function properly too

[acoustic osprey]

😔

[unkempt perch]

I mean ya theoretically its v cool

[rough hollow]

I really hope we do get Herbi strains because I want my horseshoe crab Anky.

[acoustic osprey]

luckily main branch swap is next
and so they don't have to worry about bringing in BIG new mechanics and systems

so hopefully they start working on Humans next, at the very least

[rough hollow]

That'll be the next big thing I expect.

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't mind if maybe, like Strain Plants, that we get 'new strain variants' for Herbis
would be interesting

but if not, if we stay the same
i wouldn't be annoyed though

[unkempt perch]

Main branch swap?

[acoustic osprey]

Mega Tank Anky feels like a pokemon and i'm down

[acoustic osprey]

🙏

[unkempt perch]

Like legacy no longer gonna be the main branch when you buy the game

[lethal moat]

Morning nerds

[acoustic osprey]

basically Evrima being switched to Main Branch
As they believe that all the foundational systems are in

[rough hollow]

Either that or finishing off the remaining kit adjustments.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah basically!

[rough hollow]

Mornin

[acoustic osprey]

howdy there
it is technically morning for me now as well! as of 12 minutes ago

[unkempt perch]

I see

[lethal moat]

Hell ye

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-iron-man-is-it-too-much-to-ask-for-both-best-of-both-worlds-why-not-both-gif-3787079

[unkempt perch]

In every sense though

Humans is a very huge task to handle

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-typing-stop-typing-type-stop-it-gif-666330295541634270

[acoustic osprey]

it is why i believe 2026 will be our year
At least in some regard ... Maybe we'll see just humans being put in properly
Maybe... but hopefully lore is loring a bit more because of it

[rough hollow]

I really hope Allo gets some adjustments. I have some.. thoughts on it's pounce/pin.

[acoustic osprey]

agreed
completely different foundations!

[acoustic osprey]

we need an allosaurus foxy mod for its jumpscare pounce

[rough hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/deepfriedwoomy-gif-20893284

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-foxy-pizzas-ready-pizza-pizza-is-ready-gif-24608054

[unkempt perch]

Not only do almost all human structures need to be completed and also the fact they need to also be functional and the fact that servers need to be big enough to be able to have both humans and dinos

[acoustic osprey]

😔 🤞

[unkempt perch]

Saying smthing is easy

But to be very honest

Humans plus all the monters plus every dino (60+ as we dont even know if few dinos are even confirmed) plus the fact that gen 1 humans need to also be made

[unkempt perch]

Not to mentiom gen 1 humans

I'll be very honest i dont see the game being done untill dondi is 60 😭

Or heck 70

[rough hollow]

The base foundation I can see being done before 2028.

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah... the isle 1.0 is gonna be a long long way

[acoustic osprey]

technically dino base foundation is already done... but i am ignoring the other factions...

which could even be longer then 2028 if we're unlucky

[rough hollow]

Oh yeah. I mean the main roster from Legacy. Along with the map being somewhat in a complete state.

[unkempt perch]

Dinos foundation yes

[acoustic osprey]

oh like having the roster complete
i do kinda hope they don't prioritise the roster anymore now, for quite a while, besides the current upfront list they've got now

[unkempt perch]

But when we look into the humans and even strains it gonna be really bad

[acoustic osprey]

humans will definitely be a bit easier
at least shorter then the 2019-2025 time length to get base foundations made for Dinos

[unkempt perch]

Note strains are also "part of the base foundation"as they mostly come to fruition after you get 16 mutation slots)

[rough hollow]

Oh I don't mean the entire roster. I mean the main dinosaurs you'd expect to see in a dino game. I think after Giga, Quetz and Spino are in, they'll be leaning more towards the other aspects.

[acoustic osprey]

fair

[unkempt perch]

Focusing on apexs rn seems to be their main goal

[acoustic osprey]

Assuming strains be obtained like that though
i do wonder what their plan is

I just know that it is supposed to be very hard

which i hope it isn't another invisible checklist add on to Elders 🫠

[unkempt perch]

Though spino development looks to be almost 2 years long

[acoustic osprey]

-# at least having elders visible and strains the invisible part

[unkempt perch]

Think abt it after getting all 16 mutations whats next

I mean you just die

Or you get awarded for the time you invest

Getting all 16 mutations isnt a simple task too

So ya

[acoustic osprey]

to be honest, easily exploitable by having a clan
which is probably not the way to go for strains, in my opinion

just due to the nature of their OP-ness

[unkempt perch]

I assume depending on the mutations you get to become the strain that best suitable

[unkempt perch]

Yes true but you cant take those things into account

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, i think they need to
don't want it to become a BoB clan-fest for that sort of stuff

[valid geyser]

Clans do directly effect the player base’s enjoyment of a game
Especially when they do things like hack, mixpack, overpack, etc etc

I’d consider them needed to be kept in mind

[acoustic osprey]

but hopefully they've thought of the best solution for Strains, i imagine it to be painful

because they said they want to shadow release them
so once they're known to be out, people will definitely be wanting to exploit as much as possible

[unkempt perch]

Its the case for every game

Even if they shadow release em by the time their in within 3 to 4 days people will find out on how to get em

Its natural

[ornate comet]

Fear my 16 mutation ultimate Ptera

[ornate comet]

Data miners

[quartz cargo]

Strains should be insanely hard to get

Almost to the point of doubting their existence

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[unkempt perch]

Hmm

But to be very honest strains should only on specific carnivores

In the sense only apexs

But we already know that the carno's hyper model already being in evrima changes a lot of things

[spiral wasp]

When did we find that out?

[lethal moat]

That’s just a ported legacy model

[unkempt perch]

Ya but still

[lethal moat]

I think the hyper rex concept is more interesting than a ported legacy model
Lotsa teefs

[unkempt perch]

It we really want to make hypers and strains really scary making them harder to get in 1 way or the other by locking strains behind a 90+ hour grind to get 16 mutation slots

Aka making em apex specific

[unkempt perch]

We have gotten this 4 to 6 years back and so far not a single other concept

The fact they are porting legacy hyper model promises a lot

[lethal moat]

We got the tissoplastic reaper

[unkempt perch]

Meh true

[tardy oak]

There’s really no way for them to do this in the current state. They technically can do a content delivery system where it downloads the files only when you join an official server which would help “shadow” it.

But overall the files being on a persons PC means it will eventually be found by knowledgeable people. They could also try obfuscating the names of folders and blueprints

[tranquil flume]

They could also throw it in a large patch and obscure it that way. They’re not going to tell anyone when they get released. I hope they scramble that code

[tardy oak]

Unfortunately that’s not how that really works. To add something new it’s going to appear in the files regardless of how big or small a patch is. The hypers could be just their own morphs and just be apart of the character blueprint or it could be its own character blueprint which would be easy to find.

They’d have to really like make engine changes to hide it to the best of their abilities

They can manage it though

[acoustic osprey]

assuming people know what to look for

[tranquil flume]

They managed to slip in the screen and no one knew till Don mentioned something. You’d be surprised what can get missed sometimes

[tardy oak]

I knew of it. I kept it secret

I knew the password and was told by some friends on my team not to reveal it either so lore finders could find it.

I mod this game pretty often and have been inside out. More than a typical dataminer

[acoustic osprey]

knowing it was in or the password?
because i recall the hiraeth plugin being in for a while now, i believe

[tardy oak]

I know of the password and plugin.

I check the files every day because we have to dump our SDK every time an update

[acoustic osprey]

but how long of the password?

or at the same time

[rough hollow]

What kind of modding

[acoustic osprey]

basically server modding for his server

[tranquil flume]

Im sure they’ll figure smth out

[hexed forge]

pretty cool stuff too

[tardy oak]

There’s some YouTube videos I made for client mods. Just search TheTopRat if you’d like to see those

[tardy oak]

Uh pretty early on when it was finally added

[rough hollow]

Pretty impressive.

I like the NV change. I've always wanted it to go back to the halo system.

The AE Main Menu you did is really neat too.

I'd expect you'll be quite reputable in The Isle's Modding community when the workshop finally opens.

Keep it up. I wanna see this stuff in the workshop one day.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-gif-20922935

[unique ember]

I am Paul I solo all of the isle.

[acoustic osprey]

yay paul

so i did a little bit of working

based off some references for LAB IX's logo

i couldn't quite get the font right, whatthefont was not happy with the quality of the pictures lol

but... good enough for me to just have in the bag

[formal mural]

Nice to meet you Paul

[fresh pulsar]

👀

[slender crown]

Something I've been wondering for a long time, why did they bring dinosaurs back to life in the first place? Gateway doesn't seem like an ideal spot for research, even before considering the difficulty of getting supplies to an island. I can only assume that privacy or secrecy were priorities.

That, or minimizing danger to civillians in the event of an animal breaching containment

[lethal moat]

This is the closest guess we’ve had so far #isle-lore-theories message

[slender crown]

So why use such unprofitable animals?

[lethal moat]

But AE is a part of the larger Apollo corporation, who I imagine has very deep pockets, and if my theory is correct, you would just have almost unlimited profit if you were successful

[slender crown]

Absolutely would, but there are better species than dinosaurs to use here

[lethal moat]

Large up front investment, if you want to survive in the new world, you have to work with Apollo

[slender crown]

So essentially replacing the modern animals we've built our industry around with Apollo-exclusive dinosaurs if you want any sort of animal product?

[lethal moat]

Not just animals, the plants are genetically engineered as well, it is the entire ecosystem

[nimble fractal]

Maia.....milk..

Packeted/bottled

[lethal moat]

Apollo is saving the world be recreating the amazon, the world owes it’s gratitude to the company

[slender crown]

So essentially creating an entire biosphere where all exchanges for survival end up in Apollo's favor

[lethal moat]

That’s the working theory

[slender crown]

Nestle?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/abba-money-money-money-its-a-rich-mans-world-70s-music-sweden-gif-17890846

[fierce cradle]

Whats lab 9 ?

[lethal moat]

A location that’ll be added eventually

[fierce cradle]

An empty space with some table chair u mean

[lethal moat]

On this, we do know the leadership structure (likely ideals) of apollo or AE have changed over time

[fierce cradle]

In the last trailer we saw trikes are showing intelligent thoughts is it a teaser for strains ?

[lethal moat]

I doubt it, more likely related to EIPs I’d say, or just more intelligent animal behavior

[fierce cradle]

EIP ?

[lethal moat]

Embryo Intelligence Profile, human consciousness/intelligence transferred to different beings

[fierce cradle]

So the dinos are human?

[lethal moat]

Maybe some of them

[slender crown]

Do I hear a bid for immortality through hopping bodies?

Neat way to explain how players fit in I guess, obviously a real triceratops probably wouldn’t display complex problem solving and planning for specific goals in the far future

Or they had very poor problem solving and planning abilities compared to us, as demonstrate by the multiple instances of trikes dying because they can’t get unstuck from one another

[fierce cradle]

I think it's human experiments like transferring consciousness to dinos

[slender crown]

That’s what I said

[lethal moat]

Also been mentioned

It’s also the best kind of immortality, the kind that can end

Apparently people can go mad/feral though, so maybe there’s a few glitches in the system to work out

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1373116730322456648/1377055386317754543/attachment.gif

<@&933486433342222376>

[acoustic osprey]

and/or The Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

empty as in no one can really use anything of it
but it'll have custom and marketplace assets, its a giant Science Lab

hopefully... hopefully with some lore in it though

especially like a document or two

[formal mural]

hi Lightclaw

[acoustic osprey]

hi Daviid

[gaunt dawn]

Not davidled

[acoustic osprey]

why

but it is Daviid
and we say hi Daviid

[remote oyster]

Lightclaw I know you mentioned this in a stream, do you think there are actual trail cams on gateway or do you think they only do that for cinematics n such

[hexed forge]

Only for cinematics

There once was a time where the Dibble TCAM was on the map for the lorehunt, but thats gone now

[acoustic osprey]

right now? Nothing
but there were TCAMs

and they made the model plus base
i doubt it'd be a one time thing

[hexed forge]

Singular..

[acoustic osprey]

we'll likely see some TCAMs being put around the world with no meaning besides nods to AE doing such

[hexed forge]

hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

probably

i doubt they made the whole model for just that

[remote oyster]

Hope it has better quality for a dinosaur making company lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPiNB4vP73I
ignoring the obvious recovery quality of the glitches ... potentially thanks to ARCHIVE 7...

they seem to record in decent quality, in AVI format

[remote oyster]

yeah the quality is decent enough

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/957019081633071134/Screen_Shot_2022-03-26_at_7.51.53_am.png?ex=696801f9&is=6966b079&hm=db5ec19b0c68bef4e020ac901fca653e03cb6062ec817d313c3f54aea0e91ea1

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer40k-warhammer40k-heresy-detected-warhammer40k-space-marines-gif-26543746

[deep dust]

this new?

[hexed forge]

Really old

[acoustic osprey]

feels new to me 😔

time has flown...

[remote oyster]

Times flown by so fast that I'm turning to dust whilst still waiting for Spino

[fierce cradle]

Why the cameras glitch when the rex is shown in the footage?

[fast forge]

In the intruder video?
It never shows a rex, it's just showing the camera distortion from the rex infrasound (paleo) call

They were clued in to something odd happening because of the camera distortion and the altered animal behavior

[acoustic osprey]

believe samurai is talking about the trike TCAM video

however, the ending of that vid (The Trike TCAM vid)
@fierce cradle
It is basically a call back to the INTRUDER video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJjgin9eEY
... the rex from the Trike TCAM vid either being INTRUDER himself or BARON, or any other Rex

^^ where basically we see this getting described #isle-lore-theories message

i.e.

Paleo Rex calls, because they're infrasound, cause camera distortions and disturbance for local wildlife

[hybrid sable]

https://tenor.com/view/space-marine-you-speak-heresy-warhammer-40k-what-did-you-say-don't-say-that-gif-3570587536222968742

[fierce cradle]

U noticed one thing ?
Stego SALT is present in both videos

So Rex is an INTRUDER ? They were not meant for this island ?

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/where-you-at-gif-21177622

i am slow.

[acoustic osprey]

"INTRUDER" is more of a name for a specific Rex
However...
We don't know how these nicknames/names are given to them, the dinosaurs

But, as you refer to SALT,
SALTs naming scheme may actually be an indication that they name because of events - labelling them after such.
However, not all names we have are good descriptors
Unless you go back to the original meanings of each name - like AUGUSTUS meaning someone who is venerable, especially coming from the latin word Augur ... which is a religious omen-taker

[acoustic osprey]

-# (no, no not your fault. Just surprised with two popping up almost back to back)

[acoustic osprey]

alas

I would not be surprised if INTRUDER was named INTRUDER because of his 'incident'

however
I am curious

Do Dinos only get names once they're 'profiled' in a video?
as in, are all dinos labelled their ID (basically this part of their name -> "STEG.12-S.012")
and given a nickname ("SALT") as soon as they are injected (into Gateway or any other location, etc)?

Or just given an ID without a nickname till they are profiled within a report ... such as an incident report, etc.
Practically, for reference, if any sort of reference is needed within documentation for these creatures

[fierce cradle]

Both stegos colour scheme is same

[acoustic osprey]

oh no they're definitely the same being
they have the same name and ID

no doubt about that

[rough hollow]

I suppose they would have a form of chip inside them that allows AE to track their position. As soon as they're linked with a certain incident, they're named accordingly for easier research on them.

[fierce cradle]

Are they cooking up some story about them ?

SALT ?

[rough hollow]

INTRUDER I can only imagine attacked a human outpost in the past.

[rough hollow]

This is what I was referencing.

[acoustic osprey]

probably not
but...

maybe

SALT and ATLAS' child DUKE seem to be together at the river delta after ATLAS die
more properly showing "M-PAK" (mixpacking)

i would not argue against a sequel following the events of them

[rough hollow]

Duke is a name related to leadership, so I wouldn't be surprised if DUKE becomes the Alpha of the existing/new Trike herd.

[fierce cradle]

How did ATLAS die ... He was a living breathing school bus

[rough hollow]

Old age.

[fierce cradle]

That sounds anti climactic but right

[rough hollow]

Think of it as Uncle Ben's death in Spider-Man. Probably a turning point for DUKE.

[acoustic osprey]

thing is though
Their chiptracking 'IDs' seem to be different from their actual creature IDs

if the Trike TCAM didn't come out
I would also say that we don't know if those Dibbles were Synths or not, as we thought they could be vastly different - synth IDs vs natural born

However, we've seen SYNTHs and non-synths with the same naming scheme
just with an identifier on their ID if they're a SYNTH
so there is that

[acoustic osprey]

by the time just before ATLAS died, they mention ATLAS and DUKE had also left their immediate family 'herd'

[fierce cradle]

But why ?

[rough hollow]

Very true. I think DUKE may start a new herd then. Or come back and fight the current Alpha.

[rough hollow]

Likely because they knew ATLAS would have challengers for the Alpha position.

[acoustic osprey]

i can see DUKE just making his own herd
specifically even a mixpack herd, potentially. Seeing SALT

[fierce cradle]

Then why duke left with him ...cz he is his son ?

[rough hollow]

Yeah, because they're related.

I think, anyway.

[fierce cradle]

SALT will be the master oogway to Duke

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fierce cradle]

But then why in between of the documentary we have a rex clip ... Is the rex only powerful to make cameras loose focus ? Or it goes much deeper

[rough hollow]

Oh, yeah I just watched the video back and yes, DUKE is a descendant of ATLAS based on his name.

[acoustic osprey]

they also both are seen to share a behavioural mutation that makes them show more empathy then normal creatures (more like humans)

[rough hollow]

I think this was mentioned earlier, but the reason as to why the Rex messes with cameras is due to the Infrared frequencies it lets out. As for the flashes at the Rex, it's hard to say.

[acoustic osprey]

Duke be the offspring of ATLAS
ATLAS also had a partner with the ID number 037 (as DUKE has .032-037 in his own ID ... 032 being ATLAS)

Duke also has a sibling named TAZ, but TAZ has another father

[fierce cradle]

I think it's not true but the rex calls is also effecting the person who's making the evidence ...or is it effecting us the watchers ?

[acoustic osprey]

it's not a theory or anything
the INTRUDER video, if you haven't watched, uses an audio analysis system that relays the audio signals causing the issues

as these were ruled out:

https://gyazo.com/4c4aa3797ad1989c772707d9e00cb2db

AE rules out an earthquake causing the issues
Rules out weather
Rules out human influence
However, finds unusual patterns in regards to local 'fauna'

[fierce cradle]

But it makes cameras loose focus

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/20ea9b6d38b2d703b3c71c983a66f17d
They then play back the sound
And identify it with it coming from the Trex known as INTRUDER

This Trexes full ID being

TREX.10-S.001 [INTRUDER]

[fierce cradle]

Not to switch cameras

[acoustic osprey]

sub frequencies are known to cause physical disturbances

this is just the nature of anything below 20Hz
Being sound you cannot hear but feel

powerful enough and you get proper vibration that could push things around a tiny bit and cause some digital issues

[fierce cradle]

Ok

[acoustic osprey]

saying that

INTRUDER does this in negative frequencies
which is impossible, in regards to Physics
so best to assume ~ -15Hz as just 15Hz (give or take the actual infrasound Hz)

[fierce cradle]

So intruder is a mutant ?

[acoustic osprey]

this txt file is also the full transcript of the audio analysis^

[acoustic osprey]

Regarding being a Strain?
I am around 98% sure he is not
But this is not to say he isn't a mutation creature
as in having mutated qualities about him

As we know, a lot of "SYNTH" (Synthetic) creatures come directly from "The Machine" (The Replicator)
Seems to contain a lot of mutations about them, give or take

like how AUGUSTUS (a SYNTH) has the anomalous behaviour to climb
or SHIRLEY the anomalous physicality of being a lot stronger then normal rexes

etc

if that makes sense

[fierce cradle]

Yup got it

[acoustic osprey]

perfect 🙌

[formal mural]

LAB
IX.

[acoustic osprey]

IX

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/2e05db94e49a65f4c92f576d2bcddbdc

was searching for something i've sent for something else but came upon this (from the Dibble TCAM Lore Hunt)

i find it funny that the YouTube account was called GW_F5

:))

[bold shard]

Hey there, I used to be in a discord server which was dedicated to the lore of The Isle, is it still around or did it say its farewell..?

[acoustic osprey]

twas deleted in July of last year
if you'd like to join the 'new' one, i can send you a link if you'd like

but fair warning
there really isn't anything going on in lore
and the most activity you'll see is in this channel ... mostly with me lol
but yeah!

[ornate comet]

Lore

[lethal moat]

The original was deleted last year and the new one is questionable in a few ways

[bold shard]

Ah I see alright. I remember I used to get Isle memes from the server and wanted to check it out again 😆
If there isn’t really much going on, I’ll stick to this channel then for the lore, thank you! 🦖

[lethal moat]

Np, this is one of the better spots to get stuff usually, but having an archive server of concept arts and whatnot is pretty handy

[merry zodiac]

Why do you have to trash it if you aren’t even the part of it

[lethal moat]

I’m mentioning my observations from the times I’ve joined and left

[merry zodiac]

Also the archive server is useful to get fast info aswell

[merry zodiac]

You joined, made mean comments and drama then left again tho

Lol

[lethal moat]

I don’t think I said anything particularly mean, asking mods to enforce the rules they made equally and consistently isn’t being mean

Having a flipped barge inland on the island could be cool, sort of a “How the hell did that get there” sort of situation

[civic pollen]

hurricane? maybe.

DINOSAUR?? surely not...

[merry zodiac]

Like the humpbackwhale in the mangrove forest lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/run-godzilla-run-its-godzilla-austin-powers-goldmember-gif-25863420

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hiro-heroes-yatta-excited-victory-gif-4555530

[fierce cradle]

do we have any pics for the h variant in evrima ?

[lethal moat]

We have the hyper rex concept

[fierce cradle]

do u have the image ?

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301951790656389120/1303844877494386749/EaCQj_TXsAE91UC.png?ex=6968bdeb&is=69676c6b&hm=cf89163249d984d784b5d7dffe0cdaf7e6cd35f2c7a89dd3382250e46ce8b23f&

[fierce cradle]

thanks !!

[lethal moat]

We also have some strain plants

I almost forgor https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1367435794557435904/1367442317606256791/b081bc15a1f745f2ae1d477607ba69f2d6f946e0.jpg?ex=6968bc66&is=69676ae6&hm=00f5b6174ab59ea6fbabb7b0adc61be304604cb16156b8d9a305b253c0ecb9a1&

[fierce cradle]

Is it in game rn ?

[lethal moat]

Not yet

[fierce cradle]

If they introduce human will they make another map ?

[low scarab]

Spooky red wood on top

[lethal moat]

Don’t know when either of those will happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised about more maps

[low scarab]

[shy plover]

is this what i think it is?

[sonic rampart]

Brachiosaurus

[quartz sundial]

bro gets fat

[ornate comet]

When was this?

[acoustic osprey]

i was looking for any sign of a sunk ship near the shipping containers on that one beach

curious on what the implications are supposed to be

if anything, but why have them to begin with

i think i remember, though, when Don made reference to them

[snow jasper]

end of september

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge
do you remember where on NW Ridge where Don commented on having an airstrip/airfield?

[civic pollen]

that biiiiig flat empty field, west of the pond "beneath" water access dam. which no longer exists.

(approximately.)

[merry zodiac]

I wish those places were only removed for rex testing purposes :(( and are coming back revorked in the future

[tame sparrow]

Bru dis a brachi?

Dat gone gone take 2 days to grow

Maybe 4

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

The big open space north of the dome

But that is gone now

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge basically this?

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

i see

[hexed forge]

But it’s gone now so woohoo

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[strong mango]

Do you guys think the matriarch will ever come to fruition?

[lethal moat]

It’s still canon in Evrima, whether or not it’s in game or playable
Ehhhhhhh, we’ll see

[merry zodiac]

Probably only a single page of lore on it, thats the most we will get

At most

Probably nothing

[strong mango]

A whole page? We gon be eatin good lads

I always loved the concept, but it seems like it would be a herculean task. Honestly would be cooler as a little in game nod or even years down the line added in as some sort of event boss.
I'm sure once the game is released to modding someone is gonna give it their all

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hungry-so-gif-13100938

[merry zodiac]

Yeah imagine an evolve style animal that worked through its lifestages like Tapwings concepts (like having diets for growth AND extra diet slots for targeted dna that it needs between stages)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-been-awhile-omni-man-invincible-it's-been-a-long-time-it's-been-a-hot-minute-gif-1605515884729098121

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-break-it-down-for-you-mark-gif-11003904960781122909

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/a-long-time-ago-alongtimeago-avlyrr-gif-7906214145700011323

[fierce cradle]

Whats a matriarch ? Like lilith ?

[acoustic osprey]

think Kirby
but a monster and related to Tissoplastics (where tissos are able to re-gen limbs they have lost)

[fierce cradle]

Whats Kirby ?

[acoustic osprey]

basically a monster that is able to evolve bits of herself based on the thing that she eats

[acoustic osprey]

i am surprised by the amount of people who do not know who kirby is

[wintry yew]

whos kirby

[fierce cradle]

I will do one better why's Kirby

[fierce cradle]

Any concept art ?

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-absorbe-a-conker-smash-remix-kirby-conker-the-squirrel-super-smash-bros-gif-1777800932836762541

[acoustic osprey]

nothing official

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128414431823540316/1436207420283027536/ezgif-18d6d38fe1b0ab.gif

[languid escarp]

What. Di I just read here

People don’t know Kirby ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh rip

What’s new w the lore my dudes

[gaunt dawn]

Nothing

[strong mango]

What an unholy comparison

[gaunt dawn]

Woah

[remote oyster]

Here's something I've been thinking about, we know the paleo calls from rex are shown distorting cameras, does that mean it has some electrical interference or something else to it?

[acoustic osprey]

from what we see in the audio visualisation log
It appears that Paleo Rex calls are just that powerful that they can cause (for humans) headaches, vertigo and teeth vibration
So if anything, it is likely just vibrating the TCAM - causing it trouble with its autofocus

[acoustic osprey]

quite so, quite so

[remote oyster]

That is so cool
And maybe, to an extent, probably realistic

[acoustic osprey]

its definitely a lot more exaggerated then it should be

[remote oyster]

yeah probably

[acoustic osprey]

however, i do imagine something that size can produce infrasound that really rattles your bones

[fast forge]

Imagine if people in the Isle still used 8-track tapes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-beatles-60s-gif-3113016244018234873

probably not by the time of the 80s into 90s

[fast forge]

I lived in the 80's and 90's, there were plenty of 8 tracks still around

[remote oyster]

Yeah just think of Tigers, they can cause humans to suffer headaches and stuff, a 10+ ton animal that couldve done something a tiny bit similar could do something alot greater

[fast forge]

It was kinda outdated, a bit like someone using a CD player 5 or 10 years ago

[acoustic osprey]

our SSL Matrix Consoles were used in the 90s, especially by mid-range bands like Ben Folds Fives
8 tracks existed, but were pretty much redundant tech by that time

[fast forge]

Oh yeah that's what I'm saying, people still had them and used them because why buy an album you already own?

I figure within the isle it might just be personal possessions scattered about

[acoustic osprey]

my only problem is that it seems to be quite far away for it to be causing the camera distortions

[fast forge]

Although if it's an intentional anachronistic tech thing that could be tool too

[remote oyster]

oh I see
hmmmmm