#isle-lore-theories
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i wish all mutations were like that, but if we even get only some of them that have something similar, i can see them being more related to strains
austro flashbacks from yesterday....
imagine something like; 10% mass increase, but your hunger drains 15% more"
now imagine that entombed 4x times
Yeah
where are you hiding
(double checked if something had changed in the loading screen because of update)
The more we are fed, the more insatiable we become
Nothing?
ye
so either the Link System.683920 is useful to know sort of thing that can open/affect something out of the loading screen
or they haven't made it with the UI checks yet
or loading screen was not explained correctly, i suppose
what counts as a loading screen?
oh well
The Trike and INTUDER video are more then suffice for lore
just a bummer we can't figure this other thing out
Si
hopefully you find something while i sleep, yay!
good night
sweet dreams!
Rex coming out this week
Lore?
did someone say austro?
we all love our favorite stego Salt (012)
Interested to see how the Allo injection video will go.
So what species haven’t appeared in a trial cam video yet
Including Allo like you said there’s Maia and hypsi off the top of my head
Idk if the cera and carno trail cam is still canon so carno is a maybe
you guys have amazing theories, i so love reading them all
looks like scratches, snowfall or/and bacteria/cells, but that is just the random static effect tho
are we...hypos? unsateable hunger
I love the new video they put out
cera was just in the trike/rex one
allo was in the dibble vid last year
nom nom nom
Whoops forgot about that
Ik I was talking about carno
yeah i was just being dyslexic and reading wrong 
#isle-phase-three body camping lore
There were some allos creeping after the diablos after Atlas(?) (Might remember the wrong trike) knocked down one in a dominance display in the top left corner as both herds separated. Im assuming that one died due to being weakened after.
Guys
I think I found lore
Huh, I missed that. I'll have to go back and check it out.
The vid had
- Guarding drinkers
- Mixpacking
- Body camping
Lots of player behavior becoming canon
Honestly it’s cool
the lore is probably gonna boil down to "wow these dinosaurs sure act alot like humans"
Makes sense in lore as well
It does seem like they are looking for recognizable human behavior in the dinosaurs
Mixpacking evolves to carnivores and herbivores working and living together, AE says this will ruin the ecosystem so they try to limit it with (something)
But its presented in a way unlike what players do. Atlas only guards the babies while they're drinking after one gets snagged by a deino (and its only atlas that does it), Salt only hangs around Atlas when Atlas is in the north part of the island, and we have no indication they work together to fight or anything, and Duke was protecting his last family member from predators. Each of these things are things that actual animals have been known to do, and are quite clearly different from actual player behavior
I think AE is just keeping track of any sort of deviation from known behavior, and not specifically looking for behavior that is "human"
As an example, when Atlas attacks the dibble. the note afterwards says that it was the first recorded time that Atlas had defended Duke from something without killing it, and that the dibble was largely unharmed. Thus, the behavior was logged because they don't know why Atlas did not kill the dibble and probably want to see if they can recreate the behavior
Its rather normal for herbivores to tail others if alone. Theyre herd animals typically, so it makes sense theyd want more eyes.
Impala will pay attention to the alarm calls of birds, and zebras the impalas. Its why sometimes you get more deceptive interactions to compete for food: spook someone away and take the spoils.
As for the dibble: my guess is Atlas saw it as a funny young not-trike, and thus not a threat. So instead he made a point to stand over him which he probably would have done to another trike of similar size if they got over eager fighting Duke. That, to me, was a body language display to both help Duke and show him how to handle encounters like that, and not much else beyond that. Blood attracts predators too, so killing the dibble was not really beneficial.
Yeah, which is why I find it unlikely that AE would see it and jump to "those trikes are acting like humans"
Also, duke is the baby, atlas is the big prime elder.
Well they aren't saying "those are humans" because they don't have enough info to say
Best they can do as scientists is say it is "anomalous behavior"
And yes, some of these behaviors are exhibited by wild animals.
But the point is not that these are remarkable behaviors that have never been seen before in the animal kingdom, it's that it's never before been observed in these animals
I do agree that the guarding and mixpacking behavior isn't the same as what we see actual players do (or at least to the same degree)
But like
We know Salt is based on an actual player, and has that player's funny behavior
"Mixpacking" as a real animal behavior is extremely rare - we are much more likely to see consistent ecological associations based on the traits of component species (i.e. giraffes have good sight, wildebeest have good sense of smell, together they are stronger), rather than the ad hoc random grouping that we see in game
Yes, there are cute gifs where a badger follows a coyote around like they are friends
But relative to the rest of the coyote population, this is extremely rare behavior
The fact that mixpacking in the isle is much more common than mixpacking in real animals suggests that it's a novel behavior
Yeah this is my takeaway too. I just think it is a bit of a leap in logic to say that AE is specifically trying to find human behavior in the animals
Woop swapping that lol
I wasn't saying it was a definite thing, it was just an idea that I think has some evidential support
Honestly that would be cool if some herbivores had longer scent ranges to find food or water easier during droughts and gallis or other small critters followed them because of that to keep an eye out for danger and were thus tolerated
And, I don't think that player behavior is canon, we've yet to see any form of "mixpacking " in the trail cam videos aside from salt occasionally hanging out with a specific group of trikes, and I believe the note refers to salt as being atypical for this. So, probably something along the lines of salt and atlas have some sort of history that causes them to want to hang around each other in their encounters
Well one of the slides referred to mixpacking as "M-Pack" iirc
Yes, but that does not mean that it is player levels of mixpacking
Like 8 different species of carnivores hanging out together and hunting with each other
Also i noticed that the huge herd of trikes was only together when the babies were very small. Then as the young got older they split up more and more (implying food drain). Its interesting that Atlas and Duke had such tight bonds in particular by the end. Maybe the males normally/currently group separately from the females in isle canon until nesting season?
Seemed very elephant coded
It's hard to say what is normal behavior with basically a sample size of 1
True and an anomalous one at that
There is 2 separate units, there's atlas's family unit, which seemed to be him, his mate, and their children, and then the herd unit that family was apart of, which looked like it contained 2 or 3 family units at the beginning
The creators of the video were calling it mixpacking, I'll call it mixpacking
After they're in highlands, there's an implication that a rex (Baron) attacked the herd unit and snagged a baby, and then after the herd unit dispersed into their separate family units
True. Ik those split up. Did it clarify what happened to the mother? I know one of the kids got used as rex bait which is an oof- yeah
If you want to draw a distinction between what we see in the video and what we see in game, feel free. But so far I see no evidence to make that distinction
I'm not saying it isn't mixpacking, I'm saying we've seen no indication that the full extent of player behavior is present in the lore
Terrifying way to go out 😂
I didn't say the full extent of player behavior was present in the lore
I wasn't making that argument, that all behavior in game is represented in the lore
I assume she got eaten by something, I also suspect that trike social groups are pretty tight in the lore, so when atlas died duke stayed around because that was the last member of his particular family unit that was left. Until he hears the stego broadcasts, one of which I suspect is specifically salt broadcasting, and he goes to find Salt since its a familiar creature
I see, I was just saying that I feel that there is a distinction between player mixpacking and lore mixpacking, because lore mixpacking so far is one stego hanging out with a specific trike, while player mixpacking can be up to a massive group of herbivores and carnivores working together to kill everything around them
I crave a documentary in this style ngl
I really want to try and make an isle documentary series at some point in the future, but I've been having some minor issues with obs
Mixpacking in lore is more than just that one stego because they literally refer to a pre-existing term when they see that behavior. They recognize it as mixpacking, and label it as such. So to say that the mixpacking in lore is only this one instance is erroneous - we don't know what form the mixpacking took, but it's clear that AE scientists had seen mixpacking before
I was wonder the impression that the M-PAK designation was made after Salt was observed hanging out with Atlas
If it was a new concept with Salt, why wouldn't they create a similar anomalous behavior report? Instead it's a footnote
Also, I did not say that there is no other form of mixpacking in the lore but rather that this is the only form of lore mixpacking we have seen so far. whether it was the first or not, we don't know
I'm not even sure about your point then
You're saying this isn't human behavior because it is different from in-game mixpacking, but we don't know what kind of mixpacking AE scientists have seen
Maybe they did, its just not part of the overall report that we see in this particular file recovery. My take is that the file recoveries are AE scientists managing to get access to the security logs on the island and making reports on the behavior we see in them. When they saw salt hanging out with atlas, it could have been the first form of mixpacking they saw, and thus made a different report under the m-pak desingation, which is referenced in a foot note. Or it could be the same thing but all mixpacking reports are on that same file and they just added the salt stuff, we don't know
Indeed, but that doesn't seem like evidence enough to say that lore mixpacking is different from game mixpacking
The simplest explanation is that they are named the same thing, so they are the same thing
We only have the one lore example of mixpacking so far to go off of the kind of behavior that AE has seen regarding it. And, I don't think its human behavior because the dinos in the lore videos act very differently from how most players act in game, With the apparent exception of salt who I guess is based off of something a specific player would do, but I feel thats more the exception not the norm
Like in the diablo trail cam video, when the raptors managed to pin a dibble. In game players would have rushed in to help the pinned dibble immediately, but the dibbles in the video hang back in their defensive circle
Okay, yes, we only have one example in lore, but we have the real thing in real life
If one of Shakespear's works talked about ducks, but the description wasn't quite right, we wouldn't assume it's a new type of duck. We'd assume it's the same that we see in the real world
Yes, they don't behave exactly like humans. I discussed this yesterday
I'd imagine it's more animalistic. You don't think about entombing itself but... you are old, and this looks like a nice place to lay down... you feel sleepy, but funny too. So peaceful...
I'm not referring to that, I'm referring to the fact the the lore video animals act very different;y from how players act in game. Thus it is safe to assume that the full extent of mixpacking we may or may not see in the lore will probably be very very different in presentation from what we see in game, and will more so be a rare sight between specific individuals
I'm saying we have one data point, but allusions to more, so we can't say for sure
Fair enough
But for me personally, I can't really see them canonizing the 20 strong doomstacks of rexes and trikes coordinating together for the purpose of murdering everything
Tbh right now we seem to just be getting context. Everything seems functional and "normal" right now. These videos could very easilly take place in the past and collectively build toward a much darker story
True, but I am under the impression that these videos do take place after AE seemingly vacated the island and left the structures abandoned
Could be that too. Im assuming theyre still active in my post above but we dont exactly have evidence of either yet lol
We saw a Gen 2 swap out the trail cam in the dibble video. I don't think there's evidence to say they've abandoned the isle by the time of the videos being recorded
If anything I'd say that the studies that they are engaged in suggest that they are still active on the island
What did I miss
it is? who
did the devs confirm it? cant it just be coincidence
OOOOOOH i knew it
could be
but i believe vivid is QA, so the dev team know her
so maybe
who knows
agreed
no
Ok
yay
Woah the lore tag came back from the dead
no
We are lost, guys buy nitro so it comes back
Boost this server for super top secret pets channel
not wrong, i mean what

whether or not EIPs exist
But if they do actually EIP
the actual functionality and (most importantly) implementation
When i posted my pet in original lorecord i only got reacted by Rün, and it wasnt a nice react
once i boosted, then once i was hacked
so never again yay
Yeah ima go have dinner bye
(i do not waste my money on corporate slop anymore !!!!!)
oh my
Thats probably a lie
probably
maybe it isn't my money going into corporate-slop subscription no. 72
but gifs are free
do not be mislead by the corporate!
Apollo Engineering is a scam
have you not noticed that they always WANT to join, to leave everything for a dream!
do not reach out when they call !
oh
gave it smaller fish as a friend
dammit I can't steal that one grrr
What if they offer a KFC Black Card
oh
I feel like im idolising a person I've never spoken to
So be it
If we have a Stego named SALT I wish for a Maia named PEPPER
A maia that only eats sumacs... yes...yes... it's all coming together
@soft spade fish mention
All you have to do is get accepted to QA, and, idk, eat gastro endlessly to make it your signature trait 
I'm better at finding bugs than testing them tbh
That’s still a valuable skill, bug magnetism
yay
I am curious about how they kept the dibble down for that long while they were doing the scene, because it wasn't a sleep pose 
the videos are done in the game engine
so likely just kept the animation on loop
got it

yeah none of it is actually ingame with players
besides me
oh
yeah, having irl actors is more painful then just animated actors
with or without paying them
if you have the ability to not use actual actors without losing much or any quality, it just makes the production more convenient
gosh, if only video games were as smooth as they are in these lore videos
one technological impossibility maybe
latency free
yay
I would imagine the player itself is the biggest factor, you could never prevent a player from doing absolute random movements that look dumb
The humble Maiasuchus twerking
Spamming w and d on a trike looks awful while running
i was thinking more about delay, rubberbanding and server issues
That would be lovely
controllers and billions of money put into the smoothest IK system and some sort of hybrid-procedural animation movement system
a player's free will is beyond a technological hurdle hehe
I doubt this planet contains the resources and hardware for such a possibility
its a pretty dream however
of course we do
we just put it into lobbying and bad government reforms
hm
the isle lore politics when
NEVER
Are we just gonna ignore this

yes
is that the sound we've been looking for
I hear nothing
Its a gunshot
why
idk
source unreliable, weird link. sounds like a soundboard
what if i posted it
@muted reef
it's not from catag
hi
That "truly" person's mic goes green alongside the gunshot
and I would EXTREMELY put doubt on the isle to use such a poor gunshot SFX
then turns off while the sound still plays
yeah youre right
it sounds cheap, and it doesn't make sense
we also have marketplace assets in the isle
Man Idk who to believe,
I have to work on something now bye
then I would believe it
that may be so, but gun shots are so easy for me to distinguish between folley and reality
maybe im just hyperfixating on a silly sound
its the exact same sound as heard in streams to spook the streamer
could just be smite working
i really cant wait for guns, i think they're the only thing that when you kill a player
the way the player dies will make sense
just bang, flatline & ragdoll
mwehehe
yay
Has anyone tried typing that number while the game is loading up? I would do it but I'll have to wait thirty minutes to switch to ht
I said the exact same thing since I was watching my friend's stream lol
Maybe the qr code will lead to asset store
Secret QR codes for lore videos would be SICK
Most are marketplace assets
Yes

Miss this cute lil guy
What was the story behind the hypos anyway lol
Are they still in game files?
Or is that illegal to ask (don don’t ban)
Hypers
Mutated dinos
They're not in evrima yet
You can ask but you must follow your question with "Praise the Replicator!" and perform a sacrifice
Praise be
❌😵🪦 ded
They were in spiro but alas they are no longer a concept I assume
They were never in Spiro and are still planned
Or legacy idk what the descriptions are
Still planned ok cool
They were in the one w center lake
Oh yeah that’s gateway k bye
No v3 ah ok bye fr
Their models are probably in works, when don last showed a hypo in ue5 he said “oh this isnt the updated model btw”
He also said he wont announce it, hypos will just start showing up randomly in the servers
That will be rad

The updated model isn’t in game as of yet. Or even fully modeled at all for all we know
Endgame content most likely
We are just now seeing the closing of the core game loop, so strains are probably a few years away
man I imagine they were soo pumped while making those models and just had to put them in game for the exhilaration of it, haha that stream is so accurate for how they introduced them into servers way back then. You’d just hear an insanely monstrous sounding roar off in the distance and be like wtaf was that… and they’d be going on massive killing sprees lmao
i even have screenshot of the rex, it was insane back then for sure and knowing they wanted to make more was hype
I think if I remember correctly they've got 3 strains in total Hypo, Neuro, and Tisso
Something like that
There's also the mysterious O strain, also nicknamed Oreo strain
https://i.gifer.com/origin/e1/e18e9d918962756fe9dc5245cae92aa5_w200.gif sounds deadly >:)
No
He wont show it until it is done
He even adressed it there
In the last second that that is the old model
Nothing will be mentioned about them, shown about them, how you get them or anything of sorts. As Don said, “There will be a day when the sound goes off in one of the tests, and people who have been playing since the beggining will know” We can only dread their arrival, as when they come it will be the end of anything that heard that roar.
Hypo rex might already be done, but we won’t know until Don decides it is time.
that is the most worrisome and scary way of putting it lol
i know what to expect if i start all of sudden hearing big scary sounds 
Imagine being a pair of prime rexes, without a worry in the world, you hear a strange rex roar and in the horizon a silhouette appears. It seems like you have a challanger for the hunting ground, nothing out of the ordinary. Theres two of you and one of him so you start walking towards them, but as you get closer it gets bigger and bigger and bigger, until you see an 18 ton abomination ahead of you. You realize, you are doomed.
horror game indeed
People from the beginning will know 😏 the iconic sound
My fave to play as was the spoon
It might not be the same, but it will definitely be recogniseable
The game is art fr
if they change it i hope they kept it somewhat similar atleast so older players can recognize it 
Definitely, just to higher standards like reneving everything
yay
I really want to make and recreate the slides from the file recovery video.
My only problem is that unlike the INTRUDER video or AUGUSTUS or the Dibble TCAM video, I'm not too sure if I should keep the AE software media player section outlines still (like basically all the other ones I have done) — even the Dibble TCAM is a bit 50/50, whether i should update them to not have the box
or if I should just have it where it's only what we see... just unglitched so it's not far too right than it should be. Like in the video itself.
My other little issue is the audio visualization section of INTRUDER, because it has the text that keeps scrolling down, and also the earthquake/weather/human-influence tick-box/checkbox thing.
I'm not too sure if I should JUST keep what I have with the TXT file, or if I should make a really long PNG as well that is the normal left-to-right width but just extremely long — scroll-length long.
Of course, it just won't be in line with the resolution/aspect ratio as everything else
Thus won't keep the same style of the box that every other picture and every other slide has.
But it should be fine anyways
I'm going to try it out over the next few days and do my best with it.
honestly i think it is fine if i keep the AE Software Media Player box
it ain't really important, besides just having a proper 'higher res' recreation on hand to show peoples
Yes
yay
Post it here.
The media box is just for when there is console pre-roll playback.
Rock
Some of my favorite spots are from pure RNG.
Like made without preplanning? Damn
Wait what’s wrong w it
That spot I mean lol
That bare rock? Sometimes rocks be rocks tho
😛
That bare prairie be prairiing
if I had to guess this looks like atop the cliff looking over delta
or its part of the sheer cliffs from the map size decrease
yes, the southernmost section of that cliff line
It was just open and flat with somewhat straight lines
The fog obscures a bit
I understand what you mean, having done some map editing in unity in the past
tbh i like how much ambiance the fog is giving
It's just a slip of the tool or happenstance, and then you're like "hmmm but maybe..."
tbh Minecraft too, when I rarely play that lol
Me too man that fog is looking sooo nice
🙏 thank you
The fog is amazing, it's so creepy the way it spills over everything like a fog machine. Plus the new fog for Troodon venom. My little Troodon mind is going crazy lol I can't wait till ht is all completed. I'm gonna murder so many carnos
Anyways, did anyone ever check this? I tried it on evrima but nothing, as I assumed
have not been able to recently
but i might after my lesson, if i remember
Let me guess, top left part of the map?
Ah, deltas
I wandered around the top left to right sides of the map, that was quite... unpleasant experience. Went there to check if some hidden locations were added
Nah, just cliffs, paths, and that one pond near the highlands sanc up there
Ye. If you aren't doing a console background and loading a file, you don't need it to be there.
However, there's also no reason your file couldn't just suddenly fullscreen anyway so.
Has Anyone Found anything in the Corrupted sections of The New Video?
i'll take that into consideration
||i think i'll do a few versions and see which ever looks nicer, hmm||
Just remember that if it's a video through another screen with low quality you have to double down on the audio/video quality being that much worse.
ah true!
can't forget the crt corruption!
we're also yet to be able to find the thing in the loading screen as well
i think we went all insane that day trying to find it
Got us putting numbers into every screen and panel lol
You have the Monkey Paw. You but only need to ask.
i'll have to watch every one sprawl in pain as well
oh about this. I noticed something yesterday, let me update and check it out. basically though, I was idling on the main menu and noticed the beeps that play on the character select screen also play at random on the main menu time to time
now, if we were able to make the beeps make the exact sound we want I would say we should try to copy that string of sounds that plays. but pretty sure the manual beeps are random correct
yeah, they seem random
some could be translated to morse
but most are very sporadic
what does Don mean by "you have the monkey's paw"?
did you strike a deal with him back in the Darkclaw days that you are saving for a rainy day?
(all at the same time)!!!
Yall still on the beeps?
yeah that is nonsensical
just sounds like a weird glerpping of boops
although
putting them together is hard
i need to actually look at the normal 'line' and see if they repeat or if the beeps/boops are RNG
if they're RNG, they cannot be put together (imo)
if they're in order, then maybe.... something....
the ones on the main menu are NOT rng I think
I need to sit and listen for a bit because they don't play all the time
let me finish my genshin dailies
definitely need to make a long recording of it mmm
Is it the evrima mneu that has clues or the HT?
don't think it is Evrima
Shhh lets let the boss answer
lol
Hang on u mean the BEEPS are SENTIENT
isn't there a way to convert sound into a picture? I know lore is sometimes hidden that way in other games
spectrograms
not true pictures
but transforming the frequencies into a vertical projection
Could the beeps be tap code or semephore code?
also you avoided my question, don't think I didn't notice.
i used spectrograms (although not like how you described) to see if we could uncover more of the morse code human track
the track that would always play in U4 when you go to the radio tower
(it was mostly just to make sure we were getting the right morse code out of it)
The radio tower plays the same code as the menu in HT?
Omggg I forgot about that noise at that tower
no
there was a music track that has morse in it
always played at the radio tower
don't think that track plays anymore, i believe
human areas don't have activated music tracks now
ok...
yeah
My head hurts im taking a break ✌️
no worries
did you try this with the beeps all put together?
i should!
or each individual set of them
some of the beeps are actually repeated but in different pitches
which is unlike standard morse, but doesn't mean it can't be morse per se
yeah all the beep boops that you can play in the character select also play in my right side headphone off the main menu on occasion
those beep boops had to be specifically manually added as single things to the character menu
they must serve some meaning
yeah I've been sitting here listening to them. I don't remember if they were present on evrima or not, I never paid attention
I am pretty sure they were
but now we have that same string of beeps, broken into sections and added as single sounds. why?
oh interesting, i don't know why i have not noticed
are you hearing them now?
they're pretty quiet at times
also, for what it's worth. despite the waterfall sounds I don't think they play on the skin creator menu. they were SPECIFICALLY added to character select
(I hope i have not been playing the isle in mono)
yeah I think all are playing in my right ear
they actually play in the skin creator!
there's some other sounds in the left but not our particular trackable beep boops
oh okay waterfall WOOOOSH I can't tell
I've heard a couple in the left ear
oh yeah, it is painful to hear
but i had a bug where they (the waterfall sounds) stopped playing and i could hear the boops on skin creator
but mostly right
if you turn off 3D background the waterfall sounds stop
oh true
it seems, for me, that only the main menu plays in right (some in mono/center)
and the character select being all mono
is this inverse for you?
same for me
what does it mean!
hi
Are you all still looking for the "Secrets in the loading screen"
maybe...
XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjKLff1Ul1I
Actually really funny but oddly informative video on SALT
A video about a pink stegosaurus named Salt on the isle
#theisle #evrima #lore #stegosaurus
kinda touches the point of
Why/How is SALT still alive by the time DUKE is an adult
i presume just 'not choosing' to succumb to eternal sleep
or that trikes grow faster in-lore
nothing crazy
but something interesting to think about
It just hasn't entombed
can it be observed as an elder in the final frames
or does it still look like an adult
💀 xDD I canootttt w the nfl theme
lol
What the hell did i just watch?? 🤣
the isle lore!!!
Maybe this is a bit far fetched, but maybe salt licks are one of the things that will help with de-aging? Or was that only a specific plant(s)?
Not sure why salt would help with that though.
It could be a replicated version. Or it learned how to de-age.
Or simply it has a really bad growth rate, because it keeps licking salt rock and draining nutrients.
I can imagine that lol
YAY
I guess Salt didnt get enough diet to achieve prime with all that salt eating
Oh, you already pointed this out damn
Lol
I’m 90% sure canonically speaking dinosaurs don’t decide when to “entomb” (If it even happens with every specimen)
I believe it’s more of a natural age process until they die of old age like it was planned for elders awhile ago. Rather than what we got in the game right now where you decide when it’s time for you to go. (Much better for gameplay)
Side note, it’s probably because SALT has a horrible growth rate due to its salt licking tendencies
Or Intruder and the trike video just dont have that much of a time gap
Seeing as how a part of Intruder is corrupted into the trike video..
They meet Salt at water access where he originally resided, possibly he joined the herd to stay safe from Intruder who was in the area at that time period (Possibly following the Trike herds migratory patterns) . He was already at least big sub by then, possibly aready mated as we see a female stego with 2 offspring one with a pink hue. He only stayed with them in the northern areas, why did he travel all the way to delta (possibly even swamp) if he doesn’t generally leave his territory
SALT was in the delta?
Also I’m certain the video would’ve mentioned those young stegos being SALTs offspring
So ima just rule that out
Plus SALT shows up on the opposite sides of the lake in the two videos.
Running in the same direction tho, west.
So I think it’s likely that there’s at least some sort of jump in time between the intruder video and trike. Just not big of a time jump for it to not be mashed up together with the trike video
at the very end
hm
to note though
INTRUDER vid notes SALT goes to various zones
in regards to 'leaving area' or not
It didn't even mention that Duke was Atlas' offspring
The young stegos could have been Salt's kids
I think they just leave out unimportant details
noting SALTS close proximity with the other stegs in the INTRUDER vid
its definitely not impossible that they're offspring or related or some sort of herd
this as well
For Intruder video the important part was Salt’s anomalous behaviour of moving away
not to undermine, but i doubt Don really cared about offspring details or herd details for SALT anyways
yay
yea
well specifically the stimulus causing atypical defensive behaviors
basically proper panic SALT
i wouldn't say purely anomalous, if anything
if that makes sense
Yea, who cares if he has kids if his panic is what is interesting
but when SALT injection lore video
I mean anomalous by not an everyday occurance, the vid said this was what prompted the investigazion
Maybe in the new patch video
Would be something along the lines of SALT’s Skin turning to pink the more salt it licks
Maybe when palettes will be unlocked with achievements
(would be cool to release in tandem in a specialised update, in a hopeful state in the future)
We are expecting wayy too many videos we already got two
like if we could get more themed updates once Evrima is main branch
would be cool
Yea 2 lore ones
Pain hungers isnt a lore vid for instance
Its for avarage joe isle player
but its less cool if not lore video
Don admits making the lore vids are more enjoyable, let the people have the cooler content!!
But both is important in my opinion hand in hand
(ultimately, i always prefer if the artists makes what they want over adhering to certain hordes of voices)
Yes
i do agree, trailers are nice generally
but preferable once Evrima is proper out, in my opinion, as main branch
they get the real view numbers / ad numbers
I wonder what the plan is, making all dinos, finishing the map, getting to strains, addig humans, what will be the point Don decides it is time (or all of the above)
we already know evrima being the main branch should be the plan once this HT is live. kissen reconfirmed it recently
i mean the cheaters are a real issue
Good to know didnt see that
Get ready for a horde of new players making horrible general feedback posts lol
Oh really?
Yes kissen said once allo and rex come to live their plan is to make it the main branch
Lovely
In case you were curious (I was)
PROBABLY <<
wait what?
yay
good to know
seems like it won't be at the same time as well
so they'll likely have their holiday and probably then prepare for the swap
yay
wonder if we'll get some sort of old fella (Archimedes)
like some sort of reference or even a reincarnated sort of Archimedean character
i have nothing really else to say
he is less mythology and more just real life smart fella
hmm
quite so
What will happen if strains are added? Like could you die of old age as a strain
Who knows
It's far down the line
Hm
When the old guy of the show is right about the company being evil but no one believes him
I wonder when the rest of the UI is gonna get touched up cause it's still hella unfinished
I wonder what part of neuros with intelligence and electricity necessitates their appearance
tiny bits from the sound of dblog
replay filters (hopefully being unionised)
and hopefully a boot up
Imagine being next to neuros and you cant open your ui and don’t see your food/stam/water
Static
i'm not sure but I feel like the earth we're on in gateway is literally in a E type galaxy. Theres no center lines or anything.
Will we have any unfinished model of baryonyx at any unofficial servers? We already have for austroraptor.
when will ht drop to officials??
Read rule 10
Wrong channel
Oh, where should i ask that
Or it's just a skybox that doesn't have one 
I wouldn't mind a cooler looking skybox
we had one in recode 🙁
spero specifically
quite so
i think the file digits are certainly weird
couldn't get the Dibble one but it is good to compare against each other now that we have two to go off
i am curious, i believe they might have changed how they're doing the Dino version numbers as well
Or the Dibble and AUGUSTUS videos were a lot 'earlier' in-lore
i would not be surprised if Don redid it a bit to be more inline, when he was doing the timeline doc
Saying that, i would love to redo every video we've gotten with proper lore (in the long future) to have everything seemingly in unison
To the best of our ability to do so
it would be pretty useless. But having things being a bit more inline, for things made pre-the timeline book is always nice
After "ARCHIVE (7)" there is a series of digits, what I assume are some kind of designation within Archive 7
It's interesting to note that those digits are higher for the trike video than the dibble video, which suggests a later entry
Add in the fact that the triceratops version number is much higher, yeah I think we can conjecture that the dibble video is older
OL-TM
OL-GH
Wonder what those mean
The "9921" staying the same, despite the alphanumerics surrounding it having changed
Also the "AE 16371" in the bottom left is conserved
<@&933486433342222376>
ty
They grow up so fast 
oh true yes
because it is part of the file number, thus needing important summarised categorisations to detail the file name
I could honestly imagine a "9921" being indexed for post-injection evaluations
don't know the best term for word for it
but i think indexed makes the most sense in this case
this tracks
mmm
OL could be some sort of broad section of Archive 7
but, those digits and stuff are all a bit weird
i wonder if there is an irl system that is alike
I suppose it comes down to the company or the drives itself (for storage)
do they have an example as well?
Hoover Library: Research Services: Citing Archival Materials
seems to be more like an actual citation style of MLA then proper archival reference
but this #isle-lore-theories message
specifically B1418861.00
kinda reminds me of the reference with this "MS/2009.4"
and that be the 'collection number'
i don't believe AE would be going for proper archival preservation though with their naming schemes, in my opinion
At least not stuff being made for the deliberate idea of archival - as if going to a school and being paid to sort everything out in an archival method
Likely just standard library-esque storage
but even then
bit 50/50 to say
Because i have no idea what truly happens with archival systems
But i do know that my old high school had to hire someone and was put into a collection
Which i believe to be less practical for something like this (AE)
but no know
Yo it’s so much more in depth than I realized
potentially
Show me.
I made a mistake trying to create a world that made sense.
"haha dinosaur break out and eat man" is an easier choice. I should have just went with that.
Spero felt beautiful, its been so long its but a distant memory
it was from one of your streams long long while ago
I think ravenous had a few clips somewhere on his channel hmm
Find 'em.
also i might be pulling the monkeys paw too much
but are you potentially able to check our DMs
i swear these were named
but wow memory lane
||I think the most important thing is if you enjoy it, that being if the artist enjoys his work, then that can be the best feeling in the world. The most satisfaction out of it.||
of course, i suppose its a pretty bad philosophy most of the time for money
but Isle doesn't really need to care about that when its main goal is the game first, unlike other games like Fnaf that aim for storytelling and ARG-esque 'lore'
i really do appreciate, though, that we have what we have in Isle (even if its the last thing to be worried about on the production line)
that looks like the same lighting used in the early renders for troodon & compy
But JP route = lamez
I like it. Especially with the recent vids it almost reminds me of the backrooms. Just a place where you try and make sense of the surroundings but are left in mystery wondering what is just beyond comprehension. Honestly would love to see more game trail horror/mystery tapes
honestly, i enjoy each of the lore vids being a bit unique from each other
i remember stego having light shine through its plates as well with that lighting
I can get them
Oop I tagged 🙁
theres another one
wow
Mute me
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgkxIl3Dc-O92mV5aGRCgXu5DQiV208oaoSE
this as well (Frolo sent to me)
17 seconds · Clipped by Frolo · Original video "Phase 2, Day 9" by [Ravenous] Isle News
I believe it was because they were using truesky instead of ultradynamicsky
yeah something along those lines
@acoustic osprey WAKE UP
hi
donshmi is shwoing something maybe lore related on stream
^
How do we get there
guys code red we need to get into the mainframe
what did he push
okay so whats the commands to bring up a pw string?
we don't know
that's what we gotta figure out
he types in something
then he types in a password
and then the pw I guess
It's ok guys, just gotta spam all keys while loading
not me sorry
@lethal moat ?
guys this is just like the trailcam
now we must all do random thingies to find how to do that
yeah Lore Hunt 2 proper
To bring up the BIOS when your computer loads, the fastest way is to
restart and repeatedly tap common keys like DEL, F2, F10, or F12
GOOD POINT
can try that when it's loading up. as for password not sure
need to know the amount of clicks clacks
ill try it
Is it just booting to bios instead of the os?
but bringing up the BIOS menu makes sense for the load screen
im more excited about lore now than i have been in a while lol
BIOS from the loading screen
The loading screen while joining a server, right?
via a password
via an unknown command
yeah
do we just keyboard mash and hope the screen comes up lol
try the string I posted above
pretty much it seems
someones gonna say "try alt f4" i know it
have you tried alt f4?
is this on HT or evrima or an unreleased patch
lol
HT
it was on ht
HT because UI
also the typing felt like a bit more then 2
but still
unsure
whats happening
now we just need to figure out password
its fake
I swear I have tried it before I must have misspelled it 😭
look
Wdym it's fake
im surrounded by fakers
Are you guys being serious rn?
yeah that works
apollo works
it aint workin for me
im so sigma
good work dingel!
thank u dongle
works for me too
It was 4 digits, right?
is the password just apollo again?
HALP
seemed like it
"dino" surely
Any chance it was 5 digits and activated instantly on the fifth one?
hmm
the method is stay on an old version of HT so you dont actually go into the server and can try again quickly
mines not working 🙁
same
the Qa server
i haven't updated (from the update 15 mins back)
maybe it was removed
lore hype this early in the morning, Christmas came early
I think if you click anything wrong during loading it stops working
it wasnt working for me on the old HT version, downloading the most recent HT patch now
got it
I'm assuming you guys already tried all the named guys for replication?
i wonder if theres a list of known lore-related terms we could try, like character names, etc
is it possible everybody has a different password 
SALT ?
That would be downright evil
it wont even let me type in it, crazy qte
You need to click on it
the lore demands quick hands
Maybe use the name JC346?
From the old roadmap vid?
hmmm
(I can't atm but we shall try)
I tried Nova
5 or 4 digits basically
not JC346
caution about caps for password as well
o true

oh
OMNI?
it would be important to lore wouldnt it?
probably
so
couldnt we go through things that have passwords or are significant to evrimas lore and are 4-5 letters and type it in
Probably stupid, but what if?
Probably, yeah
"lore"
tried
"pass"
also tried link
this is fun tho! little project for us all to work on
ye
oh the lore potentials for the BIOS is actually sick though
rather then having just EXTRAS
The fact you guys actually got that it was Apollo so fast is scary
lol
im assuming light already tried Tartarus
idk i just remembered hearing 6 clacks and i thought of words with 6 letters although i coudlve been off with the clacks
oh true
I tried apollo in that screen like a week ago but I must have mistyped it
Kind of upset ngl I could have been the one to find it
You gotta get it first try
It was already known?
We knew it was something in that loading screen but no not the password thing
I was just trying things
^
I see
time to pore over the lore doc for 5-letter terms
don is consulting the glossary for dinos he has named
hopefully his mic does not cut out saying said names
ooo
Yup
please catch some of them !
a named beipi?
The what Beppleman?
MIC CUT OUT "go into the ---"
yeahhhh
password is obviously spero
lol
I tried a bunch of words that didn't work:
Apollo
Athena
Zeus
Hades
Tartarus
Soul
Psyche
9921
...I forget the rest
2172...
GUTS
EIPS
I feel like it would be something esoteric
The greek word for body or something
(which is "soma" btw, but I didn't try it)
hmm
I'll sleep on it
john cake lol
oh true yes
put words in the bank then cross out if not working!^^
how do i cross out? i dont see the option next to the bold/italic/underline options
alt shift 5
rumple trolling don. looks like they just made a doc for passwords tried
i tried to format the doc so it should be good
everything necessary on it for finding
the password could be 3 letters if one was him hitting shift/caps before the letter
mm true
didnt it show dots for each letter in the password tho?
so we should be able to count them and see how many letters it is
wait i didn't read
yes
Do we have video of 4 dots?
no sadly
only eye witness
my only worry is what if its 5 dots but we didnt see the 5th cuz the password screen automatically unlocked on the 5th button press
amarok may have made the terminal
i wish we could go back and watch how many buttons it was :(
im positive its 5+ characters, just recalling from memory tho
try SAM all caps
didnt work
try Amarok/Anorak/Zanorak
one of amarok's pen names is "Anorak" and in case you dont know who that is
@edgy python mention
that's silly
i fell asleep mid stream, i remember dondi talking about deinocheirus and then i kept dipping and put of consciousness
Have we tried Salt yet
don't think so
WE ARE SO FUCKED
trying to download the patch because this has to be it
so you just type in apollo whilst it loads to access the password bar or how does it work
yes
On the connecting screen, type apollo
Gotcha
🫵 Dondi Lore, AE developed the hit game kcd
woah
damn. my password guess was so creative but doesnt seem to be working
I find myself stuck now in the connection screen hahah
fools. Fools! now AE is onto us

what are we missing lorebros 😭
the power of friendship
hmmmm
damn internet taking 12 years to update isle and i have to leave in a bit
yay
maybe its like AEsomething
just tried none worked
hmm
surely it has to be a word we know of
( make sure with and without caps )
like how the first code was apollo
no work
hmm
isnt is a 4 letter word? AE--
should be a 4 letter
what are other Lore-y things that can be shortened down to 4 letters, ERNT (errant?)
i saw 4 but it could be 5 or a VERY QUICK 6
could be a shortened lore term, true
don is a fast typer
this is so
Gemini if 6 lol
not so
not a space nerd then :( common Apollo L
maybe
poultry riots
tried a bunch of greek mythos characters with 4 digits
nothing 🙁
:(
^put this into the lore doc as well
i presume it is something more lore-related and not for the password
but i wonder if it saying "please enter your password ..." has any meaning?
probably not
but interesting
"My Password"
dang xD
surely
(this is a joke)
this'll likely be the case of someone finding it when i awake
but oh well
i love the idea of the terminal as a hidden lore panel
I will have to go to bed I see you on the other side lore soilders
🫡
🫡
Is there a way to stay in that screen with the Password or is it always connecting you to the server after a few seconds?
I always get disconnected
huh, I always get into the server, I have like a few seconds to put in characters.
then i have to log out and back in to do it again
Back in the days when we had another Lore Peak, Khorne (some guy from the community) also got into the Console and had a dedicated passowrd to his name
that was created
Ye, I'm thinking it's something custom
Or starting to think that
Regardless, this is the first time I've been excited for lore in months
just like in the novel "The Lost world" where Arby logs into Sornas Network system
ya
Disconnect from internet when joining the server. You can stay on the password screen.
Thanks
Nothing
Qa server might be longer though
I've being doing it via that
Best not to talk about him
The hell is Harvest Base
Although him and one other did do so
From stream?
death screen
Oh
In JP Lore "Harvest base" is Sorna, the island where the INGEN company grew the dinos before shipping them to Nublar to show to the tourists
long shot but would someone try 88452Cc
* * * * * * *
What's this from
Nothin
a box on a console in game 
I see
I kind of think maybe it is actually some from death screen
Seeing as they rehashed it
It is really the only piece of in game 'lore'
And if they put it back in for ui overhaul
There might be some importance
I think it's something individual to each person tbh
Same
True
has anyone tried their steam name?
I tried putting my user in earlier
My username specifically
I tried my steam name and my steamID
Nothing
Someone also put id64 as well
Oh you did that yay
Would have been cool though
this is gonna eat at me
same
I'm devoting my day tomorrow to it since I don't have anything going on
We are so WELL FED
How ironic would it be if the password was EVRIMA
Someone want to try?? 😂😂
ty circ
LEGACY
prog
why would it be that ^^
Maybe not
maybe AE was feelin quirky 😊
Nope
What about these lore documents that were riped up, do they have codes of 7 chracters in them?
these documents
released a while ago
those excatly
OLYMPUS was tried?
Make Sure to test with and without caps Like this: LORE … lore … Lore (alt shift 5 to strike through - indicating you have done it) Worth note: may be individual to each person How to access Password: type apollo when loading into a server when the globe is spinning Eips / EIPJohnCakeGUTS ...
Yes
I dont see it on there unless im missing it
Yeaaah haha
it certainly wouldn't be Gateway
Ye true
Maybe we should do a spreadsheet rump
Or maybe I'll reformat the doc
Have a done and undone section
Is there no hint
Mmm in intruder external login is (OLYMPUS) so maybe it has to do with that project??
No haha
Not found or there isnt one
Maybe olympus is the username
Nothing given to us
How many characters used in the lore videos
Besides being 4 digits for the password
Oh
Although might have been 5 or 6
If Don typed really quickly
But there feels to be some sort of input lag so I doubt it was more then 5
It’s not a date is it?
Not 2172
But do try potentially
2017 was a lore year in Legacy
2015 for isle birthday 🎉
is any of that lore canon anymore
What was the month/day for the isle being created?
Who knows...
dec 1 2015 iirc
We have legacy death screen back
So... maybe...
Try day/month too
Has anyone tried Aurora, on account of dondi showing off Aurora Borealis over gateway
oh my goodness, i pulled a string, but to no avail

GWF5 is not the answer
who could've guessed, but i had to try
Do any of the human structures have sticky notes inside the drawers, like, man I keep forgetting my password I need to write it down somewhere 
well, nothing we presume is made by the devs
but.......
if we can walk into East Docks without passing through
then we should definitely have a look around
What's this about East Docks? (I'm very new to The Isle lore, however I'd love to get involved with it :) )
What did the morsecode give? I can’t remember
just SOS (and b, technically)
You found the password or is it something else?
no password yet
something else

