isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

I looked at the loading screen a couple more times

Its either not in the game or its the number

Or theres an RNG on it showing up

[unborn knot]

NOOOOOO THEYGOT SQUIM 🙁

[amber tusk]

guys I think what this means

is dinosaurs are real in the isle universe

[snow jasper]

that depends on your definition of a dinosaur

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[amber tusk]

also was the dakota name for one of the omniraptors a reference to dakotaraptor

[unborn knot]

https://tenor.com/view/albert-einstein-and-nikola-tesla-einstein-and-tesla-albert-and-nikola-genius-albert-einstein-meme-gif-14779319880575494400

[amber tusk]

Btw I'm wondering we didn't actually see the rex in the first one

[hexed forge]

That building is huge

I dont know where we would have 9 labs on the surface of gateway

[amber tusk]

And the last time this happened someone went to the area the video was filmed in

And there was something there that had allo footage

[hexed forge]

no camera

there is no camera

[amber tusk]

oh

Never mind

[acoustic osprey]

yeah :/

lets go to the 10 different TCAM spots from the Trike TCAM vid

[tawdry lily]

This is still old version of the map btw

Folliage anyway

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-16875499

[valid furnace]

Yo somebody unpack what they just sent in #isle-phase-three

[valid furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-insanity-bloons-tower-defense6-cymbal-monkey-monkey-gif-23755944

[torn monolith]

i already send those videos into this discussion

[amber tusk]

oh I missed this on my first view through of the longer videk

[hexed forge]

Uh
Intruder le first rex to paleo call
Trikes grow, Trike die of old age, Trike 2 emotional, trike fights ceras, rex loot body
The most simple guide

lore names and such

[snow jasper]

mixpacking
bodyblocking
AND corpse guarding
now all are in lore

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[hexed forge]

Its not even mixpacking

[valid furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crying-emoji-gif-8626349402912892862

[hexed forge]

and now I wonderrrr

[acoustic osprey]

how to open

[hexed forge]

what are the magic numbers

[acoustic osprey]

683920...

[hexed forge]

WRONG

[desert mountain]

the videos are so well made man, i loved how there's unique animations that we don't have in-game

[hexed forge]

Its 2172

GET IT RIGHT

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[tranquil flume]

mmm the corpse guarding is more out of grievance though. i do believe elephants do the same thing and then leave after the ceremony is over

[snow jasper]

pretty sure this is a different version of t rex

[hexed forge]

That Rex is the same version as intruder I think

[acoustic osprey]

3.1.1 vs 3.1.2

[hexed forge]

ohhh

[acoustic osprey]

INTRUDER is confirmed later then
being v3.1.2

[desert mountain]

it's seens that rex causes some kind of interference on the cameras, and for some reason, level 3 personal don't have access for rex footage

[acoustic osprey]

so we have a timeline then

Trike then INTRUDER

[hexed forge]

So Baron can't paleocall

[acoustic osprey]

unless they didn't know 3.1.1s could as well
but they would've known by the time of INTRUDER then

so yeah, shouldn't be Baron

[remote oyster]

Baron is a tuff name for a Rex

[tawdry lily]

We don't know

[torn monolith]

[hexed forge]

We know

[tawdry lily]

How?

[snow jasper]

v3.1.2 and v3.1.1
I think we can associate v3.1.2 with negative Hz infrasound vocalisations
and v3.1.1 we can associate with playing with its food

INTRUDER: v3.1.2 ????
BARON/PEEPS/BOOG: v3.1.1

[hexed forge]

Intruder was the first one to be able to paleocall

If Baron is an older version of Rex (Older than Intruder), he cant

[acoustic osprey]

INTRUDER was the first specimen documented to produce Infrasound
Baron should've been the first then, being an earlier version rex

[acoustic osprey]

Baron definitely is an older version

[remote oyster]

Now chat, is it just me.... or does that Rex look like it has a stockier head and lips.... or it could be how the footage makes it look

[tawdry lily]

But we don't know if it can be a learned behavior or not

[desert mountain]

intruder was the prime rex we saw in the end of trike video? or there's no way for us to know?

[hexed forge]

Prime Elder

[acoustic osprey]

the first video we saw be INTRUDER

[hexed forge]

We never even saw Intruder with our eyes

Only heard

[remote oyster]

Yes but still
Looks rather different to me atleast

[torn monolith]

prime rex maybe? they kinda chonky

[hexed forge]

Looks exactly like the normal prime elder to me

[tawdry lily]

What comes first in the timeline? Trike video right?

[grand sigil]

enjoy yearly lore drop

[desert mountain]

oh, so intruder video is supposed to be after the the trike one?

[acoustic osprey]

seems to be, yeah

[hexed forge]

Most likely

[acoustic osprey]

two drops, which is 100% better i think

[hexed forge]

Fuzzy Cameo in Lore Channel

Bingo Card

[grand sigil]

two?

[tawdry lily]

The camera at the end goes crazy, and the ceratos scatter

[torn monolith]

do we have any guesses on what the intruder is?

[snow jasper]

a v3.1.2 rex

[grand sigil]

i still donts knows who thats is

[torpid stag]

Rex come out tomorrow to evrima

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey This is true tho

[amber tusk]

likely elder if it got stegos running I'd guess

[grand sigil]

but wdym two lore drops

[tawdry lily]

And this rex is an elder with a sub

[remote oyster]

Too me the head looks less pointy and more robust, yk, and possibly some lip tissue on the head

[acoustic osprey]

true

[tawdry lily]

Probably implies the one with the young ones

[torpid stag]

What pic is that <?

[acoustic osprey]

we shall ponder this

[amber tusk]

Like devs have you seen stegos in this game 😭 they be on crack sometimes

[remote oyster]

just zoomed it in lol

[torpid stag]

Yeah but from where

[amber tusk]

They would try to kill the rex before running

[snow jasper]

I want to know what each number in how they categorise species versions
aside from behavioural differences, the only other animal to canonically have different versions are the Gallimimus & their physiological feathers

[agile nexus]

How do you know?

[desert mountain]

i thought that the infrasound rexes produced were the reason their records and appearences messed up the cameras, but as you guys said those rexes shouldn't produce it before the intruder

[valid furnace]

Lipped T. rex confirmed, they bringing back the feather T. rex from 2015

[torpid stag]

A lot of things

[tranquil flume]

that's not creepy at all

[acoustic osprey]

oh wait
I saw just this

[amber tusk]

It's in the glitches at about 5.15 in the file recovery video

[desert mountain]

knowing they can do that is terrifying lmao

[hexed forge]

hm

[acoustic osprey]

they put them together

[valid furnace]

Fire pfp btw

[torpid stag]

Rex is prob finished because the last 3 updates was of foliage and no rex and also for the footage we have rex is out in evrima lol

[remote oyster]

Lightclaw am I tweaking or does it look like he has a stockier head and lips

[tranquil flume]

OHH I DONT LIKE THAT

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
they put the INTRUDER video into it

[tranquil flume]

ty

[hexed forge]

I dont think thats right

[torpid stag]

Rex out in evrima This week for sure

[unborn knot]

Explain

[acoustic osprey]

it is
same TCAM model

[hexed forge]

oh wow

[acoustic osprey]

1835

[hexed forge]

1835

[desert mountain]

[torpid stag]

80 porcent sure this week, 15 porcent sure tomorrow

[hexed forge]

So its a mashup of 3 videos..?

[acoustic osprey]

seems to be

[tranquil flume]

camera glitch before the rex shows up (ceratos eating the body)

[hexed forge]

Has there been any mention of Archive 7

[acoustic osprey]

so it might be that Trike and INTRUDER happen roughly at the same time, give or take

[unborn knot]

o

[acoustic osprey]

in INTRUDER, will have to look again

[hexed forge]

In both

[torpid stag]

Did u see the footage rex is out in evrima (ofc the lore)

[tawdry lily]

I don't think i missed any frames

[acoustic osprey]

in Trike, the beginning
so yes

[desert mountain]

every trike we can "replicate" when the update drops will be a 2.1.5 perhaps?

[snow jasper]

is the lore website up?

[amber tusk]

This number is significant because it tells us how many days until spino drops

[acoustic osprey]

down at the moment :/

[acoustic osprey]

likely
or at least v2.#.#

[amber tusk]

I'm wondering

Is v2 the new genetic creations

[snow jasper]

gah... we need a megathread to be archived that isn't lorecord for these videos separately & comparatively since theres some minor overlap
i have to sleep, i mustn't go on like this

[remote oyster]

Chat tell me, am I in denial for believing this Rex looks like it has lips and a stockier head

[amber tusk]

And then like v2.2 for example is the offspring of those ones

[torpid stag]

Everyone is saying that rex is out this week

[acoustic osprey]

it be like the AUGUSTUS visual thing
where it looks like AUGUSTUS had something weird with his skull in his lore video

[tawdry lily]

Here is what i think, Intruder was the first to be known how to paleo call, but i don't think he was the only one capable of doing so. It was just the first that the apollo discovered doing it.

[torn monolith]

people have said multiple times it looks like prime rex

[torpid stag]

Dont like the lips but yeah the stockier head

[remote oyster]

I'm not denying that, i'm just saying something to it seems different

[amber tusk]

maybe the 3.1.2 rex or whatever it was is the offspring of baron

[hexed forge]

Archive 7 tweaking

But if Intruder is in it that means Intruder is definitely apart of Archive 7

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
v2.1.2 Rexs first to be identified
now v2.1.1 can as well (presumably, second to be identified)

[acoustic osprey]

presumably, yeah

[torpid stag]

Everyone agree with me that rex is out this week?

[acoustic osprey]

which is weird though
They injected v2.1.2s earlier then v.2.1.1 rexes?

[desert mountain]

i wonder what makes something goes from 2.#.# to 3.#.# and the sequential numbers, and if they introduce every kind of anomalous behaviour or what their criteria for selection is

[hexed forge]

I wonder if the archives align with the island

Island 1 = Archive 1

etc etc

Gateway (Island __) = Archive 7
?

[amber tusk]

maybe it's like a new batch genetically

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

[torpid stag]

#rip atlas lol

[acoustic osprey]

7 is also the number of Apollo (in mythology)

[hexed forge]

Unless the last digit is all about entombment/replication?

[acoustic osprey]

don't think so
being about the Dinosaur 'version'

[hexed forge]

I guess

[amber tusk]

oh replication

[torpid stag]

Does everyone agree with me rex is out this week?

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

could be, but not fully with it

[amber tusk]

I was about to ask what the heck the placing of a dead body in a tomb has to do with this

[hexed forge]

sighh

[remote oyster]

I mean I** HOPE **
But given it's the Isle, I don't have high expectations

[acoustic osprey]

it is basically in relation to EIPs and/or replication

[amber tusk]

yeah

Wondering if one of the numbers is for like natural offspring

so ones that are bred in the wild

[acoustic osprey]

i believe we have cracked the case with it, a bit
especially with DAKOTA

because it has a weirder number system (from INTRUDER video)

[desert mountain]

i think the tomb is the nickname to the machine that gather and store the genetic code for an specific animal, and probably it also re-uses the biomass for it

[torpid stag]

I think that yes because rex is finished and in the video rex is out in evrima (ofc the Lore)

[acoustic osprey]

OMNI.12-051.788.004

if it is natural offspring, it might be using this style of format

[DINO].[locationnumber]-[patriarch].[matriarch].[ID]
(mother and father can be other way around, we don't know about that yet)

[tropic saddle]

I can see that yall are already locked in.

[torn monolith]

would make sense if so

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-gif-4969870269742545443

[torpid stag]

And? What u discover with that lol xd

[hexed forge]

Raptor 051 mating with Raptor 788 sounds off

[robust ether]

wwwarrr is oooveeer

[hexed forge]

Thats about a difference of 700 raptors,

It would make sense if AE mass produces them.. or they just breed insanely fast

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, these numbers could be pretty rng

[robust ether]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217984342463090719/1426261054886907924/caption.gif

[hexed forge]

I doubt it

[robust ether]

lore after so long geeking

[acoustic osprey]

so we can try and identify natural born vs SYNTHs

[desert mountain]

perhaps they are mass replicated? and that's the individual of an generation like 1.0.0 number: 51

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
it matches with what we have been told

"Wild-born animals also contain designations based on the parents there
"

[pine rose]

hmmm I love replication 🙂

[acoustic osprey]

with something like Omnis as well, i would not be surprised

[acoustic osprey]

just like funny AUGUSTUS

[desert mountain]

since omni are probably the least "natural" of all the dinos currently shown they probably have something special going on them

[hexed forge]

So Im just gonna go with that they reproduce quickly/AE mass produces them

[pine rose]

YAY

[fast forge]

Okay I finally finished the trike video

[torn monolith]

mmm players learning from other players, oh wait lol

[torn monolith]

thouhts?

[hexed forge]

So Behavior can be replicated

[fast forge]

It was adorable and sad

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[fast forge]

Not what I expected from an isle video

[acoustic osprey]

[torpid stag]

Oh interesting

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, but the idea of this generally though?
#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

nothing crazy but neat to know, i think

[desert mountain]

ikr? i'm so invested in the future of SALT and little DUKE

[hexed forge]

yeah
It makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[tranquil flume]

is salt albino or a different mutation?

[hexed forge]

Also I think the video confirms that behavior can be replicated

[acoustic osprey]

especially since Omnis are not 'normal' dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

(to be fair, we knew this with AUGUSTUS)

[torpid stag]

I just want rex in evrima, Can i call dondi like this @finite grotton

[torpid stag]

@acoustic osprey

[hexed forge]

yeah but it was never CONFIRMED!!!

[acoustic osprey]

it was

[torn monolith]

looked so red/pink, albino would be way more white

[waxen rover]

SALT out here craving that mineral

[fast forge]

Salt is based upon an actual person in this discord I believe
Someone who made a stego with a salt-rock coloration

[acoustic osprey]

they all demonstrated the anomalous behaviour

[hexed forge]

Well I remember disputing with someone whether it does or does not so still!!!!

I dont know who it was but si

[acoustic osprey]

wow of course

[tranquil flume]

ohh ok cute

[torpid stag]

Can i @ dondi?

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge big paragraph

[hexed forge]

no

[amber tusk]

Wait so this herrera was observed with climbing and it was part of the lore

[hexed forge]

why

[acoustic osprey]

no, unless you're replying to him when he is active in chat (he allows that)

[amber tusk]

would that imply rex may be somehow getting infrasound calls in the game

[hexed forge]

Whose gonna tell him

[fast forge]

it has them right now...

[acoustic osprey]

it details them having successful behavioural replication
natural and synth

[torpid stag]

Good to know for not losing my acc xd

[amber tusk]

oh 💀

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

ye
have you watched that video?

would recommend
a bit old but still nice

[amber tusk]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

nice nice

[desert mountain]

the rate at which animals display mutations and anomalous behaviour in the isle seens very different from what occours in nature. What's the catalist for that probably? something intrisec to the animals or perhaps environment influence like the plants they feed?

[torn monolith]

need to watch the older videos too personally to catch up

[amber tusk]

But you know

it has been over a year since the last video upload so I don't remember everything about it

[acoustic osprey]

we have to thank "The Machine" for that one

(Don has told us that synthetically made dinos cause the most 'issues'/mutations)

[fast forge]

It's interesting that they were marking the behavior for replication, not the individual animal

[delicate kraken]

salt is the best boi, and atlas passing made me legit sad.

[desert mountain]

this will all leads us to the giant crabs. eventually!

[fast forge]

Atlas had multiple behaviors marked for replication, right? But it never said Atlas was marked for replication

[tawdry lily]

Well "the machine has favourites" and he will be replicated.

[hexed forge]

yeah

[fast forge]

Seeing an animal entomb on screen was really cool, ngl

And people who don't know lore would have no idea
(wait, unless they've entombed on hordetest...)

[acoustic osprey]

i presume they care more about the mutation then the thing that did the mutation, truly

[torn monolith]

its like they want other animals to replicate special things unnaturally.... for a mutant maybe? 👀

[desert mountain]

oooh, so perhaps this means that they can gather the genetic data that produces the behaviour without emtombing the original animal?

[acoustic osprey]

you get a bonus on your paycheck if your observed SYNTH gets a mutation this replication cycle

[hexed forge]

Well the fact that Duke didn't know what was going on uhh

[amber tusk]

hypo rex returns from the grave

[hexed forge]

I think this is where gameplay does not meet the lore

[acoustic osprey]

imagine it is your first time playing the isle, i suppose
you would have no idea why they are sleeping and not popping out of the game (or awaking)

[desert mountain]

does we have confirmation that Atlas was entombed? i thought it just died of old age (i know that in-game it's basically the same thing)

[torn monolith]

tbh the plan with the big dangerous mutant dinos was always that they're meant to be VERY VEEEEERRRRYY hard to get, so it is possible all of these data gathering for "replication" is meant for the mutant dinos....

[hexed forge]

I think theres a feature called chatting
Sooo like yeah...

But also I doubt they just 'choose' to entomb in the lore

They just die most likely

[fast forge]

Well typically in biology you do care about 'thing that did the mutation', because mutations have genetic causes, so you'd want that animal's genome

[hexed forge]

The reason we dont flop over and die in the game is because that would be lame for gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

basically what we see them caring about with this, like AUGUSTUS

[fading moat]

Maybe I misheard but I think don on stream said he technically died of an injury? Maybe was referring to something else but thats what I thought I heard lol

[fast forge]

I'd imagine it's more animalistic. You don't think about entombing itself but... you are old, and this looks like a nice place to lay down... you feel sleepy, but funny too. So peaceful...

[hexed forge]

yeah

[amber tusk]

Wait the herrera stopped moving at the end of its video after it mentioned being used for entombment

Wild idea but hear me out

[torn monolith]

cooking?

[amber tusk]

What if the entombment thing is like the lysine contingency from jurassic park

Where they can just shut of a dinosaurs vital system to force it's death

Hence, entombment

[fast forge]

I wonder how much can they pick apart an EIP
With the way they keep referring to replicating a behavior and not an individual mind or body, is weird

What if they are able to change parts of the profile of an Embryonic Intelligence Profile?
That might explain replicating specific behaviors

[acoustic osprey]

there might just be a split from Mind vs Body

[torn monolith]

so they would collect its remains/dna for later to make better and stronger dino?

[fast forge]

But a behavior is just one part of a mind

one sliver

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, EIPs don't fit the idea of the brain

[fast forge]

Do they have the same control over an EIP as they do over a genetic code?

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose sci-fi idea
so who knows the limits and the reach

the mind bends with the brain
so putting a human mind into a dinosaur brain doesn't truly work out, technically

[fast forge]

Replicating the behavior itself is just an odd way to phrase things, and seems intentional to me

[acoustic osprey]

AE farming mutations

[fast forge]

I agree on this

[torn monolith]

feeling this way too, they're collecting all of this replication data somehow

[amber tusk]

yeah but for what cos like

[acoustic osprey]

that be the question

[amber tusk]

if they were just gonna recreate dinosaurs I don't think they would do this entombment stuff like just let nature take its course

[acoustic osprey]

if only we truly knew why Dinosaurs

[fast forge]

Climate change is my best guess
But even then I'm unsure

[desert mountain]

transhumanism maybe? to somehow it be a step towards biological immortality?

[acoustic osprey]

its just a weird gap between the two

[fast forge]

I've wondered about that aspect

[torn monolith]

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1445973451511828611/togif.gif

[desert mountain]

yeah, i think thats the easy answer

[amber tusk]

unless they're breeding them for combat or something

[muted reef]

Wait if Baron is 006 and peeps is a young rex but he's 001 the numbers must not correlate with age right

[amber tusk]

like herrera seems suspiciously good at killing human sized creatures

[torn monolith]

for war?

[acoustic osprey]

could relate to an EIP ID aspect maybe?
but true point

although
PEEPS might be natural off spring
and BARON a SYNTH

[amber tusk]

and trike is suddenly getting focus for herd defensive behaviours and being harmless to other species, maybe a focus towards humans was a later goal

[desert mountain]

every theory i can think of "why dinosaurs?" could be rebuted by "why not other kind of extinct fauna then? like cenozoic ones"

[fast forge]

Yeah there's kind of a lot of assumptions
We assume it's started by anthropogenic climate change
AND
The ecosystems are so messed up that we need a corporation to make a custom ecosystem
AND
Those ecosystems grow out of control, and thus need large herbivores to maintain them
AND
Those herbivores need predators to maintain populations
AND
These animals should be dinosaurs because planet hot

[acoustic osprey]

PEEP being the first offspring of 006 (BARON)
thus 001

@muted reef ?

[desert mountain]

why SPECIFICALLY dinosaurs?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-alec-guinness-obi-wan-kenobi-serious-think-gif-5199304

[muted reef]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

(and like 2-3 non-dinos? Mega, ptera, quetz and maybe some others ||forgive my non lore memory||)

[acoustic osprey]

i think that would make the most sense

[desert mountain]

but why dinosaurs? and not dunno, elephants or giant cows?

[fast forge]

I was thinking that while watching too. ATLAS had a higher number than DUKE, despite being older

[muted reef]

There can't be more 001's of each species right?

[desert mountain]

YEH

[acoustic osprey]

why not
its not the whole ID name to be fair

[amber tusk]

"Some others forgive my non lore memory" you don't need lore memory for that

trauma of crossing rivers intensifies

[acoustic osprey]

that would mean we can only have 999 ID names in total then

so, i don't think that matters
because we definitely have had (in lore) more then 999 dinos to exist
i say

[fast forge]

My best guesses:

• Hot climate needs hot climate animals
• They (AE) are selling a product to customers (world governments) and they want something flashy

[desert mountain]

oh yeah i totally forgot about deino either lol

[acoustic osprey]

(non lore, as in i only really know Lore properly. And the rest of the isle is poof)

[acoustic osprey]

true true
but still

60 other dinosaur species

[torn monolith]

jurassic park/world all over again

[desert mountain]

Do you guys think Don is lurking around thinking; "man, what a bunch of dorks "?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bradpitt-gif-17486919993743766170

[torn monolith]

who knows if he is having a laugh when he looks in here

[amber tusk]

"bro we just wanted to make a couple of cool videos why are you analysing it this much"

[acoustic osprey]

i probably have to formalise the lorecord lore document channel better now
this has a lot of slides that'll fill it up

[fast forge]

He definitely likes watching us suffer at times, but I think he is less annoyed by people in here than in other channels

[desert mountain]

eager to see it finished! but i don't envy your work to do so

[torn monolith]

i think it's because we are not fighting about the game itself, but theorizing about the possible lore like absolute nerds lol

[desert mountain]

i think he winds the frustration seeying us suffering with bad guesses and how far from the point we are

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-rock-galactic-liquid-morkite-jumpscare-driller-engineer-gif-6463133131795941587

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

alright, i think i'm gonna compare new and old intruder

[torn monolith]

i will catch up on everything after i have gotten some sleep, keep the theories coming

[desert mountain]

godspeed lore fellas! stay smart

[acoustic osprey]

🫡

[royal mango]

ahem

[acoustic osprey]

yay

we need to add what version is which on each named Dino on the lore doc

just for some uniformity

(i'm doing it right now for anything with a given version number)

did a side by side
this transcript is the same in both, so yeah!

oh wait

https://gyazo.com/098b163ab429e1e57feb3bc43f3743c3

https://gyazo.com/0b980a8f11b80938abc278ed5c5b0f4e

why the difference? / whats the difference

TRIKE.032-037.002
vs
OMNI.12-051.788.004

[fast forge]

I caught that

oh not that

[acoustic osprey]

originally i assumed the OMNI.12 is like the location tag on the SYNTHS

like how Shirley is TYR.12-S.003

[gaunt dawn]

Wheres the lore

[acoustic osprey]

could just be a typo/mistake
in-lore and/or in-production

it is something small and doesn't matter
but a bit gobsmacking nonetheless

[fast forge]

So 032-037 represent the parentage right? We know ATLAS is 032

[acoustic osprey]

definitely double downs that idea, yeah

[fast forge]

with .002 being the second offspring

[acoustic osprey]

032-037 (037 likely being the other parent)

do we see 037?

[fast forge]

There were other adult trikes

This is the last time we see more than the two trikes

Female coloration, and the notation says "ATLAS displays the same unique protective positioning while family members drink."

So family? They don't call them a nested pair

Like the other trikes, I think 037 isn't remarkable enough to comment upon

[tranquil flume]

DUKE looks awfully similar to ATLAS and im wondering if DUKE is ATLAS’s son

[fast forge]

That's kinda what I meant with the 032-037.002 talk
Duke is 002, Atlas is 032
So I think Duke's long-form designation is like:
032 (ATLAS) - 037 (Unnamed female specimen)
.002 = Second child

[tranquil flume]

Ah ok

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[fast forge]

Atlas gets a front-row seat to his firstborn dying to deinos btw

[tranquil flume]

Wondering if Atlas has developed a higher level of intelligence. Like this is the test recordings of the dinosaurs adapting to not only be physically aware of their surrounding but emotionally developing as well

[fast forge]

Another trike comes running in from the center left
If Atlas hadn't been right there, I would guess that this is the trike watching over the babies

[tranquil flume]

It’s like they’re developing human emotions. Grief and loss almost being a trigger for further development

[fast forge]

Makes me think this is the mother? That other one at the shore in the background has another baby with it, probably not Duke's mother

[tranquil flume]

Oo maybe

[fast forge]

And she covers a lot of ground very quickly, more than Atlas, which kinda suggests that Atlas got caught slipping

Notice the othe trike parent in the background was at the water's edge with their own baby
Atlas was off munching grass, not paying attention to his children

Is there a level of guilt to this behavior?

[lethal moat]

Maybe they already had them

[tranquil flume]

Perhaps. Especially since he guards after and continues to do so. The notes state that no others in the herd replicate that behavior

[fast forge]

Maybe they dropped EIP's into these animals, but weren't sure what was going to happen? Maybe they only rarely see signs of humanity within them?

It's anomalous because they aren't just acting like dumb animals for once

[tranquil flume]

It could be a dormant gene or a test subject as well. Or slow adaptation

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/e32b99d534171374fbff8371ead7553c
"This is the last time the extended herd unit is together"

[fast forge]

indeed

[acoustic osprey]

at 5:17
which then has the Rex Injection meshed right after as well

[acoustic osprey]

this slide also takes place before the river scene
so the highland section must come after, but 'due to broken nature of the file' the timeline is a bit buggy

[fast forge]

Oh hey 037 is mentioned again

A pairing with a different animal, 034

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[royal mango]

very interesting

[fast forge]

This implies that Trikes have a promiscuous or polyandrous mating system

[royal mango]

trikes = cats

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose not unrealistic for animals
but very interesting info

[fast forge]

It's possible that the females are promiscuous, and the males raise the young, like seahorses

[tranquil flume]

Mmmm maybe similar to horses?

[fast forge]

But with a sample size of 1, I'm not going to assume

[tranquil flume]

and for all we know the og female pair could have died

[fast forge]

That's true, Taz seems older than Duke

[remote oyster]

Guys I looked harder at the Rex and colored the head
In the video it seems this Rex has a more smooth yet broader skull, possibly lips aswell but it's hard to tell
Or I just may be tweakin and this is just a normal Prime Elder Rex

[tranquil flume]

im still curious about that audio clip fragment that cuts in before the rex pair show up

[fast forge]

I figured that was the infrasound call messing with the equipment
A figurative and literal callback to the Intruder video

[acoustic osprey]

ye

same TCAM, so definitely from that vid

[tranquil flume]

could be. wonder if that ties in with baron then because it looks like baron and a slightly older boog

[acoustic osprey]

although, i too am quite curious

[fast forge]

"Peeps" and "Boog" are adorable names for tyrannosaurs btw

[acoustic osprey]

could be why they deem the mutation as iterative / atavism

[tranquil flume]

the yellow coloration is throwing off, wonder if thats the indication for the infrasound

[acoustic osprey]

although, tiny could fit these words better (with their biology meanings)

definitely confirming to AE that it is more then just a mutation

but more along their suspicions of iterative / atavism

(bottom part of this txt file)

Iterative Mutation(?)

This is the first specimen documented to produce frequencies in the
infrasound range.
Potential atavism.

[fast forge]

Iterative just means it goes through iterations, or versions

A broad term, could mean a lot of things

[tranquil flume]

like if it's evolving it's call still

or different pitches

[fast forge]

"Potential atavism" just means they think it's an old trait that is being expressed again

[acoustic osprey]

more so in the biological meaning, because some people refer to iterative evolution

thinking there might be a meaning part of that

[acoustic osprey]

specifically something ancestral/ancient, yeah?

[fast forge]

Yes

It's like when a human is born with a tail

[acoustic osprey]

i see

[tranquil flume]

past dna/traits that were lost and is slowly evolving back is what im reading

[acoustic osprey]

seems like it

and the first specimen to be documented of such

[tranquil flume]

devolution back into re-evolving?

[acoustic osprey]

i think the biggest issue here is

when they say 'specimen', do they mean of v3.1.2?
or of all v3s
or all Rexes they've had - thus why it is a "paleo call" (informally called such out of lore)

if the last is true - then they quite likely use actual Dino DNA

but
the problem is, is that we don't know

if INTRUDER is the first v3.1.2 to do it
then the Rex in the Trike TCAM video isn't out of the ordinary, being a v3.1.1 Rex

[fast forge]

On this note, when was that tidbit about "Well's device"?

[tranquil flume]

maybe they ran out of dna, had to turn to something else but the older generations still carried out the call through a less dominant trait?

[fast forge]

Where did that come from?

[acoustic osprey]

from when Don was talking about his lore timeline being formalised (in Jan)

[fast forge]

So did they go back in time to get dino DNA?

[acoustic osprey]

i would say so if the 2nd option is the case

[fast forge]

Wells being H.G. Wells, who wrote 'The Time Machine'

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/free-birds-thanksgiving-they-go-back-in-time-to-the-first-thanksgiving-to-get-turkeys-off-the-menu-turkeys-schaffrillas-gif-27124411

[acoustic osprey]

probably not going back in time
but maybe some sort of Sci-fi DNA extraction tool that allows extraction of DNA that (irl) would physically be impossible to scratch off

[tranquil flume]

could also have been not as hereditarily strong and they had no idea until the trait came out

recessive genes are interesting

[unborn knot]

The replicator is named that for a reason

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
but then why kinda refer to atavism and iterative?

How would they know/why would they mark that type of behaviour of the mutation
and not like AUGUSTUS where they dubbed it as anomalous behavioural/physical mutation

if that makes any sense

[fast forge]

Tbh, it might just be atavistic because it's the paleo call

That seems like a good enough reason once I think about it, it's just for fun

[tranquil flume]

hmm maybe other subjects displayed similar calls, but calls that were not exactly a normal call but not exactly infrasound, but they passed it off as a normal call?

[acoustic osprey]

ye

i'm gonna say it is likely that they do use actual Paleo DNA

[tranquil flume]

ohhh maybe

[acoustic osprey]

and because (they would know that they do such) that it could be coming from that aspect of DNA

[tranquil flume]

maybe some older gens were paleo and new gens were a more "modern" species and they mixed at some point?

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose it really depends on what they meant by first specimen

[tranquil flume]

yeah

[fast forge]

Baron is 3.1.1 right?
So maybe an older version?

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[tranquil flume]

and it's the first specimen that's documented too, so perhaps there have been other incidents undocumented?

[acoustic osprey]

could be
or they have not realised that older versions also pertain this same mutation

definitely many different routes for it

[fast forge]

Still, I think it could simply be that this is the video showing off the paleo call
And what is a scientific way to refer to the paleo call? "Potential atavism"

and no further thought was put into it

[acoustic osprey]

if INTRUDER was the first Rex to have it documented
Either the Trike video came out later (thus they had v3.1.2s and v3.1.1s out at the same time, or 3.1.1s after 3.1.2s)
or older versions of Rexes have had it, without them realising (at least, one #.#.1 version down) until now

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely, the whole point of the INTRUDER vid was definitely that - being it had the audio visualizer to try and find 'who did it'

[tranquil flume]

the paleo call does sound like thunder or rocks sliding and perhaps they did pass it off as a natural occurance at first?

[acoustic osprey]

but BARON is doing it as peculiar

the reference of first specimen (for INTRUDER) feels like it is the first of its kind, for all Rex

Would they not have had researched further into BARON then? Seeing as he technically paleo calls

[acoustic osprey]

could definitely be

[tawdry lily]

I loved Intruder's vid, its a shame we didn't get to see him though.

[acoustic osprey]

i do suppose they (AE) don't refer to BARON doing anything

and technically the Trike TCAM vid isn't BARONs proper video

[tranquil flume]

mmm but that one singular frame with the audio clip and the yellow bar is intriguing. maybe it developed further?

because the ceras vanish way before they show up

[acoustic osprey]

that could just because of the mish mashing of the 'glitch' aspect

like how the other file recovery meshed with the timeline of the video

basically same with this

[tranquil flume]

it could but everything else is normal in there

[fast forge]

I wonder if INTRUDER is the proper name, or just a nickname since they didn't know the individual making it

Like with trace fossil footprint impressions, they don't try to assign it to a single species, they just give it it's own name

[acoustic osprey]

could be alike to what we were discussing about ARCHIVE 7 being really bugged

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, they could've given INTRUDER the name on the spot as soon as they identified INTRUDER

but
INTRUDER is also a SYNTH

so probably not, in my opinion

[tranquil flume]

or a nickname to an unseen/unknown entity

[fast forge]

that's a good point, they were able to say it was a synth

[acoustic osprey]

they definitely and could ID INTRUDER, it seems

(basically that txt file again, just above the bottom)

[fast forge]

That's what I meant with the footprint talk

A designation only because you don't know the individual

[acoustic osprey]

John Smith lol

[tranquil flume]

maybe, and this a far fetched guess, but seeing atlas and duke, this is a similar to intruder and baron? maybe they're related in some sense?

[acoustic osprey]

don't think so, different Rex versions

and no parental tag on their IDs

[tranquil flume]

or it could be a huge case of darwinism

[fast forge]

they don't always give parental tags

Duke was called 002 [DUKE]

[tranquil flume]

i think if they come of age they'll lose parental tags

[acoustic osprey]

for Dukes offspring, they do
ATLAS

wait no
wrong way around

[tranquil flume]

😂

loring too much XD

[fast forge]

I got them mixed up earlier too

[acoustic osprey]

DUKE was given off-spring, ATLAS was not

ATLAS was just 32
DUKE was TRIKE.032-037.002

[fast forge]

But duke was also called "002 [DUKE]" later
Probably shorthand

[acoustic osprey]

for ease, i presume

like on essays
no need to give full names when you can give shorthand/acronyms

although why no full ID for ATLAS?

could ATLAS be a synth?

[tranquil flume]

introduction of a small offspring but as they grow not needed as much?? hmm

[acoustic osprey]

yeah true

ATLAS could be part of another report, i suppose

[tranquil flume]

im assuming it's hard to track all the offspring so only a few are noted

[acoustic osprey]

a bit weird though
you should always introduce

but this file recovery is badly damaged

[fast forge]

If the anomalous behavior is a sign of an EIP, Atlas being a synth would make some sense

[acoustic osprey]

yea, definitely

[fast forge]

I still think it's kinda crazy we just watched a dino entomb in a video

Like the lore community would go nuts for that a year ago

[tranquil flume]

if he's synth then it would make sense to track offspring, looking for behaviors to replicate in others for the future

reminds me almost of selective dog breeding

[lethal moat]

Artificial selection, yeah

[fast forge]

At this point I'm kinda convinced that they are looking for signs of humanity in these animals

[tranquil flume]

maybe they're testing to see if it can be naturally replicated too. and then they "naturally" slim down the traits that are unfavorable

[unborn knot]

This is completely new stuff to me. what does going feral mean

[tranquil flume]

maybe human dna was used in the replication?

we are quite adaptable

[lethal moat]

Here's context

[fast forge]

you know about EIP's right?

[lethal moat]

I'm thinking named dinos might be eips

[unborn knot]

EIP?

[tranquil flume]

no im still new to it all

[fast forge]

Some of the named animals were born on the island

EIP stands for Embryonic Intelligence Profile

[unborn knot]

So dinos who were people?

[lethal moat]

What if we've been thinking about it the wrong way

[fast forge]

By our best guess
In some form
It's a human mind put into a dinosaur body

[lethal moat]

Close enough

[unborn knot]

Yeah essentially i suppose.

[fast forge]

We don't know which animals have an EIP, we don't know how common it is, or how they work, or how much of humanity is carried over

[lethal moat]

We know EIP is a concept from legacy and it's related to the TOMB and that the TOMB is a part of the replicator's systems

[unborn knot]

Well, from what I understand, your consciousness and mind are what make us human; that's what separates us from other animals. I would guess that it depends on how fast you go insane once transferred into your new body.

[lethal moat]

I like to think it takes a few lives

And how you die probably matters cause you know

Psychological trauma

[tranquil flume]

maybe it's not placing a person in an animal, but giving them the key of what we used to become as advanced as we did. im sure that there's something primal that is still encoded in the human dna that makes us what we are. maybe they found that?

[lethal moat]

Could be

[unborn knot]

Makes sense... Question: Once an EIP host dies, does your consciousness transfer to a new body?

[lethal moat]

Dunno

[fast forge]

we really don't know

[lethal moat]

We know ver very little

[unborn knot]

So what do you mean by this specifically?

[fast forge]

Have you played the hordetest, with the entomb mechanic?

[tranquil flume]

because atlas is like a small child learning what the world is. he's adapting with startling speeds

[lethal moat]

I'm working of theories

[lethal moat]

Or he knows how things work

[tranquil flume]

that's true

[unborn knot]

Yes, but haven't tried the entombing mechanic extensively.

[acoustic osprey]

Duke

the names do be confusing for some reason lol

[tranquil flume]

duke shows more emotions than atlas. atlas doesn't really show grief like duke does

atlas is patient zero, something unlocked in him

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, besides Altas knocking the crap out of the diablo and getting angry at the deino lol

[unborn knot]

Do you mean that entombing in lore is EIP's "De-Aging"?

[lethal moat]

wdym by "De-Aging"

[unborn knot]

Essentially respawning

[lethal moat]

I think EIPs are either iterative where they build on experiences, or drawn from the same copy in a database every time, I'm not sure which

[tranquil flume]

i think he does that as a natural mixed in with some emotional. the baby cried out and atlas is naturally protecting, but the emotion is assertion than straight murder

[acoustic osprey]

however, they do note this as the behavioural mutation

trikes must naturally not care much about their off spring

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[unborn knot]

That would make sense... So in a way how we learn from mistakes?

Entombing would be "Uploading Data" to a new EIP/Copy of consciousness?

[lethal moat]

Mhm, with the player being the eip maybe

[hexed forge]

It was mentioned as a behavioral mutation?
The thing about Trikes taking care of their offspring

[tranquil flume]

that's true, though herd protection is naturally occurring behavior hmmm

[acoustic osprey]

may be irl

but not as emotive with trikes in isle lore

[lethal moat]

Mutation in game isn't equivilent to mutation in the story or irl

[tranquil flume]

so they're missing their instinct got it

[acoustic osprey]

unlike with ATLAS and DUKE

[acoustic osprey]

'their' would presume they ever had the more stronger instinct to do so

[unborn knot]

I really like that theory, I did find a hole in it. How would mutations come into play?

[fast forge]

I think it's all behavior
Herreras didn't gain any new morphology to climb
Rex didn't get a new voicebox to infracall
Trike didn't need new body parts to protect offspring at the water

[hexed forge]

That’s not what I meant

[acoustic osprey]

which seems like why ATLAS and DUKEs mutation seems worthwhile
them actually caring more emotively

[tranquil flume]

just a general note for me 😂

[fast forge]

It's like they dropped people into these bodies, and they are still figuring out how it all works

[lethal moat]

Replication, successful animals are rewarded

[acoustic osprey]

(noticeable glitch moments)

@ 0:11
INJECTION # ████
TRICERATOPS ver. 2.1.5
Copyright (C), AE Software, Inc.
(opening slide)

@ 0:11
The following video shows several clips related to Triceratops 2.1.5
outlining emergent social behavior during injection. Sound and video ...
present in the original footage have not been removed to preserve
... (corrupted)

@ 0:57
Video Data (Corrupted)
i.e. File Type, Length, etc

@ 1:39
The following video shows several clips related to Triceratops 2.1.5
outlining emergent social behavior during injection. Sound and video defects
present in the original footage have not been removed to preserve
authenticity. Original footage has been archived

@ 3:07
LEVEL 3 CLEARANCE REQUIRED
UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS OF THIS VIDEO WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE
LINEAGE DISPLACEMENT AND
TARTARUS RELOCATION

@4:05
Unique one frame perspective.
Wide shot showing a sitting Trike and a walking Stego

@5:17
Injection # ████
TRICERATOPS ver. 2.1.5
TRIKE.037-034.001 [TAZ] engaged DBL.171-157.003 [SLATE], pushing him out of the feeding area. It is unknown why the adults offer no reaction to this occurring beyond basic acknowledgement. This is the last time the extended herd unit is together.

@ 5:17
Injection # ████
Tyrannosaurus ver. 3.1.1
006 [BARON] returns with a young triceratops. The crippled animal is used by 004 [BOOG] and 001 [PEEPS] for hunting practice before being devoured.

@ 5:45
(opening slide)

@5:45
The materials and evaluations were submitted to Archive █ upon creation
.... (corrupted)

@6:19
File Type: AVI Video
Length: 00:15:10
Hardware: Trail Camera 1846 / 1873 / 1348 / 0725 / 0235 / 1397 / 2958 / 1854 / 0357
Date: ██████████████
Location: GW Area D15 / F10 / E10 / F11 / J8 / K7 / L5 / O5 / H7 / N12
Evaluation: ██████████████
Post- (Corrupted)

@7:19 (same as above)

@8:19 (Opening Slide again)

(... a few transition glitches, with nothing...)

@13:14
Audio Visualization (via Incident Report #████: [INTRUDER])
Previous hypothesis for anomalous observation [TCAM1835]

@14:12
The materials and evaluations were submitted to Archive █ upon creation for use with AE Field Guide. Replication was approved as of █/█/█. Development of Triceratops 2.1.5 remains ongoing under the supervision of ███ █████.

@14;13
Level 3 Clearance (Tartarus) threat

[hexed forge]

As if a toddler was learning how to build legos with his own abilities step by step

A body is provided,
EIPs learn how to use it

[fast forge]

Like playing herrera but not knowing that F+RMB does the dewlap

You'd never know they even had a dewlap if they didn't do this behavior

[acoustic osprey]

all notable glitch moments saved

[unborn knot]

Ok, so then I ask you this.
What motivates EIP's to keep going?

[lethal moat]

Do they have a choice

They signed a contract after all

[fast forge]

We've heard of something known as a "Thousand Life Contract"

[acoustic osprey]

and do they truly realise what is happening
I suppose it depends

do their minds morph with the (dino) brain?

if so, can they / do they properly realise?

or do they assume this is just life

i really hope we get something relating to EIPs in the future

especially once it appears Don is more free and open to do whatever he wants with lore
then worry about the developmental side of the game

[unborn knot]

No, not really. But what were the benefits of the "Contract"? Why do they need human minds?

[fast forge]

It would be cool to have something short-form like the Olympus Transmitter

[acoustic osprey]

i'm gonna implement the names into the document now

[acoustic osprey]

some sort of in-lore narrative discussion would be sick

[lethal moat]

We don't really know much about the contract either

I'm gonna dig for the loading screen lore thing again

[acoustic osprey]

heck
as a lore-stylised video would be sick

rather then just txt (either way would be cool though)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kID4A5Rvzk

[unborn knot]

Human brains are very very intelligent. Other animals are not. If my mind were transferred into an animal's mind, I would probably be physically restrained, as I was in a human body. My intelligence would be nerfed to the dinosaurs' brain's comprehension.

[acoustic osprey]

(i like to think of Henry's monologue from FNAF. That is a cool monologue)

[fast forge]

Between the two videos, no mention of Dean or Shirley, huh?

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if and when we may
maybe a rivalry between Shirley vs Baron

basically all of these videos are ways to describe "why are the dinos like that in-game"

what would Shirley and Dean be?
Being as they are atypical, from description
that being not like how Rex should be in-game

[tranquil flume]

ok i've lored enough for now i need to finish a final i'll be back in some odd hours lol

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose it does not matter
but i wonder if there is a larger plan for Shirley and Deans uniqueness
or just highlighting cool character ideas that aren't meant for in-game

[acoustic osprey]

aye
exactly

[fast forge]

tbh with their respective correlations to brute strength and intelligence, Shirley/Dean might just be waiting for strains to come to the game to get a lore reveal

[acoustic osprey]

but, sci-fi
so we have no idea

you have the play on the idea of what is consciousness
I suppose science can practically explain it. But that is for real life

[acoustic osprey]

exactly! that would be pretty sick

some sort of pre-cursor-type scenario

the final moments prior to becoming proper strains

[fast forge]

Or they were simply test subjects

[unborn knot]

Are those other names dinosaurs?

[fast forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

sibling rexes

[acoustic osprey]

true true

[fast forge]

We know Shirley is strong, Dean is weaker but smart (for a rex)

[acoustic osprey]

being that they're old old lore characters
I wouldn't be surprised if they were just unique one of a kind individuals

[unborn knot]

Ah. ok

[acoustic osprey]

^(the weakness being some sort of impediment)

[unborn knot]

Perhaps underdevelopement? Something we see in Type-N's?

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge have we thought about maybe the code being used in game
Maybe typing it somehow in maybe the chat box?

[acoustic osprey]

Tissos were actually the underdeveloped / smaller ones
but that be legacy lore

so yeah, could be!

[unborn knot]

Ah gotcha, its been awhile since ive talked about strains lol.

[fast forge]

I'm back to working on my strain video, and these aspects of lore are so tough to research and present to the public... where do shirley and dean come from? Is there a source material I can find? Or is it just something don said on a stream once?

It's so hard to research for this stuff, without having been there for legacy

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[acoustic osprey]

we properly got worded info on Dean in this channel
we got Shirley from AUGUSTUS (although i knew about her earlier)

both come from early early legacy stages

Dean first
Shirley 2nd (we know this from this channel)

and basically that be it...

[lethal moat]

Whatever the lore in the loading screen is, I think it's something to do with the globe, because it's the only thing that doesn't change color if you swap the ui

[hexed forge]

I don’t think that has been tried, I doubt it does anything but it’s worth a shot.

I’m in bed right now anyway

[unborn knot]

What is "The globe"?

[acoustic osprey]

tried but not by us
maybe ohnova

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

i hope it isn't just the boops and beeps of the globe

[unborn knot]

Nevermind

[acoustic osprey]

i tried playing around with them but got no morse out of them

i should compile them into an audio sample though

[acoustic osprey]

to be honest
I think that is just a bug

seeing as the main menu has them changing colour
so could be a woopsie
but still
hmm

(like how the eggs selection doesn't change colour yet)

[hexed forge]

Meh

I spam clicked it and hovered over it many times. Idk what needs to be done

It doesn’t even make any sounds

[hexed forge]

Si

Or just in general ask anyone in isle discussion playing the game right now lol

[unborn knot]

Does the UI of the game have any lore value?

[lethal moat]

Apparently

[fast forge]

Don said there was something hidden that we hadn't found, iirc

[hexed forge]

And in today’s stream he said the loading screen

[unborn knot]

Weird.

[fast forge]

oh he did?

[acoustic osprey]

typed it in, but nothing as well

did /683920 as well

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Either way

Lead to nothing

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[fast forge]

8675309

I listened to a fair amount of the stream

[acoustic osprey]

started with this
then he said he meant loading screen

[hexed forge]

I’m going to make an educated guess and say that it’s rng or just not in the game/bugged out

[acoustic osprey]

hm?

[hexed forge]

What

[fast forge]

it's a reference to an old song, it's an american phone number

[acoustic osprey]

ohh

[unborn knot]

What if you the player, are an "Employee" or replicator creating and uploading a species in the game? You entombing is the EIP sending back data.

[fast forge]

ignore me, I'm being silly

[lethal moat]

maybe

[acoustic osprey]

or it is something crazy obscure that we just don't really understand

[acoustic osprey]

i forgive you this time

[unborn knot]

Meh, I dont think its that deep, but just an idea.

[hexed forge]

The globe is actually Mars

[acoustic osprey]

imagine if this was a hyper convoluted step-by-step lore thing !!!

I doubt
since... why now

[acoustic osprey]

there is no Listenbourg
so it is not earth

[unborn knot]

Mars is tartarus :0

[hexed forge]

Woah

[unborn knot]

I think we broke the code guys

[lethal moat]

One sec, lemme try something

[hexed forge]

What is a link system

[acoustic osprey]

Link system.683920

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-gif-26460616

[lethal moat]

I'm convinced it's something with the beeps and boops

[acoustic osprey]

don't think it worky

[hexed forge]

It’s actually a 25% discount code for isle merch guys

[hexed forge]

But this isn’t the loading screen!

Unless Dondi messed up his words for the fourth time!

[acoustic osprey]

hm

[unborn knot]

Wont load.

Morse code perhaps?

[acoustic osprey]

or maybe we just need to wait for the next UI updates for HT

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-amelia-shepherd-that-feels-entirely-possible-possible-thats-possible-gif-27535181

[acoustic osprey]

and Don just doesn't really realise that they're not in yet

(he can't always be playing on the latest branch of isle, of course)

[hexed forge]

Or Dondi has no idea what we actually have on hordetest that’s possible too!

[acoustic osprey]

entirely possible
weird for the loading screen to change again

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message hi

[hexed forge]

Goodnight

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[unborn knot]

The beeps and boops repeat itself, it could just be because of the audio loop for the game, but it could be code for something.

[lethal moat]

mhm

[fast forge]

mhm

[unborn knot]

hmh

[acoustic osprey]

If it is code it isn't morse

But i might try matching them up a bit and try again

[unborn knot]

Go for it 🙏

[pine rose]

did we see this?

ik we saw this

[acoustic osprey]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

I've compiled all the glitch screens from the trike TCAM video!

[pine rose]

oh

[delicate sigil]

rip to baron

[crystal cairn]

so boog and peeps are the rexlets?

also this implies the rex is named baron

[delicate sigil]

i think so

[crystal cairn]

and in the final shot there is only one rex juvie

[tawdry lily]

Which is a sub at that point

The other might have died, or simply left the group

[acoustic osprey]

Yay!

[acoustic osprey]

Not really implies
It shows

[crystal cairn]

mhm was kinda replying to the person who said rip baron

[pine rose]

I wonder where Shirley is

[crystal cairn]

001 and 004 damn

[delicate sigil]

yeah baron is sub trike who fought with slate (dibble)

[tawdry lily]

Thats Taz

[delicate sigil]

wait am i blind

[crystal cairn]

“baron returns with a crippled triceratops”

I like that the rexlets have the most disarming names

[pine rose]

is this also the first time we saw the rex sheet?

[acoustic osprey]

Ye

Unless you include when we saw this video in oct

[acoustic osprey]

Ye lol

[fast forge]

I'd hate to die to a vicious tyrannosaur, only for it to be named "Boog"

[pine rose]

ya

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[fast forge]

The names are adorably appropriate when they are small
The names become very silly when they grow up

[acoustic osprey]

Like French bulldog names

"Princess"

• brutally attacked a child in front of its owner
  Sort of name

[tranquil flume]

is the sub adult's threat level high? some odd reason is looks like high to me

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like it

[tawdry lily]

Hard to tell, but is likely a human should still be a decent snack for an animal that size

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

the dinosaur glance sheets (especially this new format of them) is for humans specifically

seeing as previous glance sheets are seemingly for humans to 'get to know the basics of X or Y' species

so 'high' for something like a sub adult rex sounds right

[tawdry lily]

I can't guess the other life stages, juvenile seems extreme but i can't tell the rest

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, the rest are too obscure

[tawdry lily]

Don give us the high reso sheet for the rex on phase three pls!

[acoustic osprey]

🙏

Punch was asked
but seeing as he was able to spit out the Trike TCAM and not the Rex Sheet

i believe either Don wants to wait
or maybe it'll be in-game!

I HOPE findable in the new LAB IX facility

[tawdry lily]

There is probably gonna be a ton of documentation that we don't even know of, but i guess we gotta wait for humans

I wounder if he had the time to make an Allo trail cam

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely
definitely a few pre-existing ones out there

we knew that some sort of evrima incident report was made during the time of ERRANT-291 being released

also some documentation on protocols

[acoustic osprey]

would be interesting

https://gyazo.com/e65fae85063034263b8889b240b7b4d5
I am really glad LAB IX is back properly though

[crystal cairn]

that looks sick

[tranquil flume]

This is what i can make out so far on the sheet. Have to kinda look at it from a distance

[acoustic osprey]

exactly! I love the camera next to the front sign

its like
"Oh its LAB IX"
LAB IX (AE): "Oh, its you"

[acoustic osprey]

looks about right

moderate seems fitting

[tawdry lily]

Whats that lab about? Probably missed something.

[crystal cairn]

Ben better be in there or we riot

[acoustic osprey]

big big lab from the recent Dblog

[acoustic osprey]

we need The TANKS first

[tawdry lily]

Ah but nothing happened in there as far as we know?

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of lore, no references yet

[tawdry lily]

Ah ok

[crystal cairn]

wonder if we’ll get something about Atlas entombed in the future

that and information on which rexlet survived

[acoustic osprey]

i love the TCAM stuff
all of them have been perfect

[tawdry lily]

The trike one was the best IMO

[acoustic osprey]

but
once humans are out

I really hope we get some more MCAM and facility stuff

[tawdry lily]

I was entertained the entire time

[acoustic osprey]

agreed
tiny bit of story and some lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-not-entertained-entertained-gladiator-russell-crowe-maximus-gif-17738266

[crystal cairn]

if baby atlas would have walked up to duke I would have actually cried irl

[acoustic osprey]

I know Don has said he doesn't want recurring characters but...

[fast forge]

We got one today

[tawdry lily]

It's funny, because people are actually starting to care about these "characters"

[fast forge]

Salt

[acoustic osprey]

true

[crystal cairn]

do we have confirmation codes for replicated assets yet

we hecking love salt

[acoustic osprey]

still though, we know he doesn't really want but
but having some references would be good

like we know SHIRLEY is 100% coming back
and yeah, SALT

[acoustic osprey]

confirmation codes?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[tawdry lily]

Like a skin code for said "characters"? Like the indivuals color palletes?

[tranquil flume]

i think that elder is 10 tons i see a 9 on that weight

[acoustic osprey]

032 [ATLAS]
TRIKE.032-037.002 [DUKE]
TRIKE.037-034.001 [TAZ]
DBL.171-157.003 [SLATE]
006 [BARON]
004 [BOOG]
001 [PEEPS]

this should be all of the new characters, right?

(about to update the doc a bit)

according to the list from cerato in lorecord, it seems right

if anything missed, please msg me

[fast forge]

The trike story was a good one

[tawdry lily]

Aye, id love if there were more trail cams connected to this one. Like when the massive herd separated and why, how did Atlas and Duke got separated from the female trike (plot twist Shirley & Dean killed her), that kind of stuff.

[acoustic osprey]

i can imagine that trike that was killed by BARON being part of that big herd

[fast forge]

I kinda like that the other animals are nameless and unimportant

[acoustic osprey]

so if the Tyrannosaurus v3.1.1 injection video exists (or may exist)
it could be a cool cross over

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, true
makes sense thematically/story-wise

i lack the proper word

[tawdry lily]

And Baron maybe lost one of the juvis in the hunt or something.

[fast forge]

"Fits the vibe"

[tawdry lily]

The possibilities are endless.

[acoustic osprey]

oh more so i mean it is fitting writing-wise

i am reading Cavell's Shogun
Imagine if we were told the name of every Shogun the Anjin had met in every scene, basically... that would be silly

[fast forge]

You mean in the strict clinical tone, extraneous information is excluded

It fits that tone

[crystal cairn]

a numbering system that indicates an asset is replicated

[acoustic osprey]

(more like this #isle-lore-theories message)

but alas

[tawdry lily]

I'm kind of interested in a Shirley and Dean trail cam. It's probably a very interesting duo trail cam with anomalous behaviors.

[acoustic osprey]

oh true

and if all dinosaurs (or at least SYNTHS) are EIPs
are EIPs uniquely tagged and constantly IDed, especially when within a foreign body?

[crystal cairn]

we have visual confirmation of Atlas potentially entombing here and the vid suggests he is to be studied for his behaviour

[little smelt]

Hey, hi! Does anyone know how I can play Evrim on GeForceNow?

[tawdry lily]

If you emtomb, then you become a gen2 SYNTH right?

[crystal cairn]

especially since AE seems interested in these unique behaviours

[acoustic osprey]

i wish we could have a proper animated short with Shirley and Dean
but the amount of time and money...

[fast forge]

You could always make one

[tawdry lily]

I can't replicate the quality of the current ones lol

[acoustic osprey]

Also Don said they can't do mocap as well 😔

[acoustic osprey]

better to ask in #isle-discussion

[acoustic osprey]

it is interesting how it doesn't say entombing though

unlike in the AUGUSTUS video

unless that is because the AUGUSTUS video is pre-timeline document
thus Don didn't have a proper cemented use and idea of entombment till the beginning of this year

[crystal cairn]

are we assuming “replication” and “entombment” are separate

“ready for replication”

[acoustic osprey]

i would say so

at least, AUGUSTUS appears to say such

but the idea of how seperate these two verbs are, is another question (or how closely they are related)

it may be that entombment is just the first step of the overall idea of replication

if that makes sense

[fast forge]

This was kinda confusing

If only because of how it was written

[acoustic osprey]

i think the first bit means
SALT wouldn't do this with 'any other trike'

'do this' as in traveling with ATLAS' family

[fast forge]

ohhhh, I see it that way now

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!

[tawdry lily]

Ref. M-PAK

[fast forge]

Salt is an automatic member of the family

[acoustic osprey]

i think that makes sense
then the last part being 'even though they allowed SALT, they still were cautious'

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[acoustic osprey]

mixpack alert ⏰

[crystal cairn]

the only reason why duke left atlas’ side in the end was because it heard salt in the distance me thinks

[tawdry lily]

And Duke ends up together with Salt as an adult again

[acoustic osprey]

that is lovely headcanon

seeing as DUKE was last seen with SALT

[fast forge]

More human behavior

[acoustic osprey]

true

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/a1350acb3a322a53a588cf09df94b22e
do you reckon that this single frame (which never plays again) @ 4:05 of the video
is SALT and DUKE?

might not be because it is very early on

[fast forge]

that would be fun

[acoustic osprey]

but still, my little headcanon

[fast forge]

yeah but it's a glitch, it can be shifted I suppose

[acoustic osprey]

looks a bit like the river delta, but.... hard to tell because glitched frame

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[crystal cairn]

hard to say yeah

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[torpid roost]

they made mixpacking cannon🫡 😭

[acoustic osprey]

lol

https://gyazo.com/6e83ea3d6152c1f975fa19d88cfa2843
oh sick

we got a new server room

looks like new server models though, unlike what we had a few months ago

don't know why this is the only room with the AE Green lighting
hopefully that gets standardised around the facilities though

although, these server racks look VERY modern

very curious
probably marketplace assets, so a lot harder to get 80s themed racks

[little smelt]

Hey, hi! Does anyone know how I can play Evrim on GeForceNow?

[acoustic osprey]

best to ask in #isle-discussion

[little smelt]

thx

[acoustic osprey]

don't think this is right

(put all the boops and beeps together)

[snow jasper]

i love SALT

[acoustic osprey]

SALT!!

[snow jasper]

do we know what version shirley was?

[acoustic osprey]

nay

[snow jasper]

:(

[acoustic osprey]

sorry 😔

oh i forgot, ATLAS is also a Greek Titan

i do not think that they share any similarities though lol

ATLAS is sadly not holding the sky up for anyone today

changing around the naming thing for the doc

i think this works, where the version number is

STEG.12-S.012 [SALT (v3.1.1]: A saltrock-colored Stegosaurus that typically patrols between various zones rich in natural salt licks; historically continued this behavior even when stressed.

oops tiny mistake though

oh wait
do we know if the Trex at the end of the video is BARON?

i don't think we saw any corrupted slide naming the rex

[tawdry lily]

Could or couldn't be, but probably is no other Rex was referenced aside from the little ones.

[acoustic osprey]

although, technically, we do see INTRUDER's audio slide just before the rex comes in

could be a production hint to it being INTRUDER
hmm

[tawdry lily]

But i think that was because of the camera disruption call.

Like a callback "oh this again"

[acoustic osprey]

which could be saying INTRUDER is back at it again

or just simply, the ability to paleo call is being shown again

to infer, because we can't really hear it, that it is the paleo call and not something else

[tawdry lily]

I think it's the second option, but it's hard to say for sure, we haven't seen intruder in his video

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[tawdry lily]

The ceratos do behave the same way as the other animals in Intruder's video

[acoustic osprey]

and we have no idea if INTRUDER had a child. I don't suppose out of the ordinary
but still, hmm

[tawdry lily]

They are literally "Nope i'm out"

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!

definitely is a paleo call, just far away (so anything above 20hz is too quiet to be heard)

||and anything from 20hz below is inaudible because infrasound||

[tawdry lily]

We can paleocall with the Rex ingame

That should tell us something

[acoustic osprey]

how so?

if only we had a better version of the first image

[tawdry lily]

If you look around the knee the skin looks the same.

[tawdry lily]

Well like how it was with Augustus.

Maybe idk.

[acoustic osprey]

hm?

not sure if i understand

[tawdry lily]

Maybe they based the rex's replication based of individuals that can paleocall. It's just a guess though.

Or maybe all of them can paleocall, and they just discovered Intruder doing it first.

[fast forge]

In terms of the kind of nicknames that biologists give study animals, Intruder makes me think of an errant male without an established territory

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

true

some sort of rex ronin!!

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes

i understand now!

if it was, it would have to be accidental (in this scenario)

[torn monolith]

Oh boy so much to read

[acoustic osprey]

as Baron comes first before Intruder
(Baron being 3.1.1 and Intruder being 3.1.2)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pepesaber-pepe-frog-dance-move-gif-16717201

[acoustic osprey]

032 [ATLAS] (v2.1.5): A triceratops on Gateway and may potentially be a SYNTH (no known full ID/designation). Sired 002 [DUKE] and has been observed, like DUKE, to have unique and more emotive social behaviors, including: Positing himself between DUKE and a lake against a Deinosuchus, allowing travel with Stegosaurus 012 [SALT] (Marked under Red. M-PAK) and non-lethally subduing a Diabloceratops to defend DUKE. ATLAS peacefully died within Gateway’s south swamp.
TRIKE.032-037.002 [DUKE] (v2.1.5): A tripceratops on Gateway and is the offspring of 032 [ATLAS]. A majority of DUKE's lifecycle was observed in Triceratops Injection # █ (v2.1.5). Sparred against an unknown Diabloceratops and was ‘saved’ by ATLAS, who non-lethally subdued it. DUKE accompanied ATLAS' final moments before he died, remaining with the body and sleeping beside it throughout the night. Final observable moments include guarding the remains of ATLAS, leaving after hearing stegosaur vocalizations and living aside 012 [SALT] within the delta region.
TRIKE.037-034.001 [TAZ (v2.1.5)]: A triceratops on Gateway who was observed engaged with 003 [SLATE] and pushed him out of a feeding area of fellow Trikes. Seems to share the same biological parent, likely their mother, with 002 [DUKE]: 037 (no known name).
DBL.171-157.003 [SLATE]: A diabloceratops on Gateway. Observed in engagement with 001 [SLATE], who had been pushed out of a feeding area.
006 [BARON] (v3.1.1): A Tyrannosaurus Rex that had been injected into Gateway and is the parent of [BOOG] and [PEEPS]. It was observed carrying a crippled young Trike for its young to practice hunting before devouring. This specimen may be able to produce infrasound.
004 [BOOG]: A Tyrannosaurus Rex, only observed in its Juvie state. Offspring of 006 [BARON]
001 [PEEPS]: A Tyrannosaurus Rex, only observed in its Juvie state. Offspring of 006 [BARON]

should be everything for the 'new characters'

just have to update SALT now

and SALT as well now

STEG.12-S.012 [SALT] (v3.1.1): A saltrock-colored Stegosaurus that typically patrols between various zones rich in natural salt licks; historically continued this behavior even when stressed. Was observed travelling alongside 032 [ATLAS]’s immediate family, unique behavior marked under “Red. M-PAK”, and later was observed alongside 002 [DUKE] after the passing of ATLAS.

looks good
if anything is wrong, please suggest fixes in the document or here

[waxen rover]

I love that SALT exists, they're just a cool coloured Stego with the funniest based reason. He enjoys that mineral

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[acoustic osprey]

oh we didn't try putting 683920 into the server filter
but nothing it seems lol

[pine rose]

@acoustic osprey whos the male rex?

[acoustic osprey]

Baron

[pine rose]

I mean the OG ones

like shirley and the other one

[waxen rover]

temple

[strange shell]

Just watched the lore videos
So corpseguarding is canon

[torn monolith]

Along with mixing

I actually went and read all messages after I went to bed lol

[acoustic osprey]

Dean

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah hahaha

Only if it is for lore of course

[pine rose]

thabks

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

[sturdy trout]

HELL YEAH

[nimble fractal]

Why SALT likes salt?

Is SALT an EIP?

Does that mean EIPs keep some of their traits from past life(s)

[acoustic osprey]

at least, a SYNTH

are all SYNTHs EIPS? are all dinos in general are EIPs? Who knows

[nimble fractal]

I'd say SYNTHs are replicas of EIPs

So all SYNTHs are EIP but not all EIP are SYNTHs

[desert mountain]

Guys i just realized maia didn't get mentioned or appeared in any kind of lore material

JUSTICE FOR MAIA!

[acoustic osprey]

to be honest, i think SYNTHs are just bodies (specifically made by The Replicator)

and less so 'replicas' of EIPs
but the bodies for an EIP

[nimble fractal]

You always get my thoughts right while I struggle to dezcribe what I mean

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-gif-27049633

[nimble fractal]

As far as I understand, EIPs might be stored as data in a data library, so they can be used in SYNTHs

But I feel it is not the only their purpose

[acoustic osprey]

The TOMB !

[nimble fractal]

Yeah, the library!

[strange shell]

Maia isn't canon

[nimble fractal]

And look

[acoustic osprey]

it also helps that The TOMB is a subsystem of The Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

this is true
we have not seen it yet, thus...

[nimble fractal]

Yeah I was just typing that 🧍

And the interesting question is
Can EIPs be mixed with eachother?

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nimble fractal]

If there is no way to mix them together artificially, a nature can for sure - by nesting

Could AE let species to nest to pass down the best, or the needed traits down the bloodline?

So then it can be entombed

And become the better EIP?

[desert mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-memoji-gif-23490017

[nimble fractal]

What if mistakes and errors during replication due to entombed creature being nested in lead to cases such as Augustus climbing and Rex paleocall?

[acoustic osprey]

like two of the same EIPs existing?

[nimble fractal]

Two EIP mixed into one

[acoustic osprey]

oh

i doubt that would be allowed to happen
but would be a crazy thing as a mistake - if even possible

[desert mountain]

like a chimera?

[acoustic osprey]

mmm true

would be another good greek mythos reference actually

[nimble fractal]

Look

[desert mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-eating-interested-interesting-eat-gif-12379645417545842169

[nimble fractal]

If there is a chance that entombing multiple times is one of the requirements for unlocking a possibility to become a strain creature

Brb train

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[nimble fractal]

So

It can help because we get the best of the best (the required) traits (in-game mutations) that allow for the mutation (strain) to live inside that body

After a dinosaur is entombed (input into the database and becomes a new EIP), some traits from other EIPs are added in it's next lifetime

And the mutation stat boost we get is due to the traits (mutations) becoming dominant and the replicator makes them more viable as they allowed the creature to successfully survive

[desert mountain]

can't wait until we get more mutations, specially the "hidden" ones