isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

oh something turk noted about the dblog

mess and blood in the new "lab" megafacility

(the lack there of)

and, to be fair, generally with some things
but especially with this new one

hopefully we can see more mess around the place

[acoustic osprey]

like one would imagine this kitchen, after some years and likely being left in a near-panic/near-messy state to become quite messy
especially from Dinos coming in and shuffling about

and this section 'has' life in it, being the vines
it would be cool to see this whole room becoming almost fully vined

of course, a lot more effort — and we know weathering takes time for Vis to do

but something i hope they don't ignore

seeing as it seems like even initial weathering checks haven't really begun for this megafacility yet

also the name

I wonder if it has usurped the 9 (or more) underground labs
and is just called "The Labs" now

seeing as it is fairly big
but i feel like the size of Lab IX, if you want to put (at least) 9 labs into one big building
I feel like it should be even bigger

so maybe they'll cut the theoretical '9' labs and might do 3? maybe even 2?

i do wonder, unless it is only supposed to be one

[lethal moat]

Not all of the labs have to be on gateway

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[lethal moat]

Could be 3 on gateway, 3 elsewhere, 3 elsewhere, and because 12 is funny greek number, lets add another 3 elsewhere

[acoustic osprey]

i do feel like because Vis didn't really name it besides "the lab"
i have a feeling the original LAB IX name isn't going to be reused

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

or have there be 7
because 7 is more inline with the funny Apollo yay

#isle-lore-theories message what a yapping...

[lethal moat]

But lab 9

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/god-cat-gta-gif-6428734668505432761

i had a better gif but i could not find it, oh well

but i believe the idea of now showing the name and only referring to it as "the lab" might be because such a name is no longer

but, maybe not

who knows
we'll have to see how the main hub of the lab hub (lab ix) was molded to fit into this new area

seeing as that is where it had the sign with the reception

if anything, it could be this area

saying that i don't thiese two are the same
unless they changed the bridges of it from the 1st pic (last dblog) to this (2nd)

actually, to be honest, the floor to ceiling windows gives the vibe of being a front entrance as well

oh wait

eh, maybe
probably not the same 'sign'

i really hope we still get that CCTV camera on top of 'new sign' if there is a new sign (or a sign at all)

[acoustic osprey]

only thing missing from the piece is the final weathering and satellite structures

ah i am silly

well, likely that we won't get crazy over-grown vines
not until we get the strain plants, i imagine. Maybe

[knotty locust]

imagine a metallivore taking over this entire structure

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wombat-moment-gif-17950728288530672465

also with this, i HOPE

[lethal moat]

I'd like to see overrun GUTS tunnels because I'm still holding out hope

[acoustic osprey]

but i'm a bit 50/50 on it because it doesn't sound like something Wedge would've designed
Unless Wedge has thought of a game breaking idea to bring in music in the game successfully

because the only really non-evasive way to do such, simply, would be to only have more ambient and monophonic-esque tracks without much going on

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rdr2-dutch-of-course-red-dead-redemption-2-red-dead-gif-9326852189418230329

[acoustic osprey]

(that being, a successful and game breaking way to bring in more then just what i described with only having simpler/thinner tracks ||in terms of texture — how many layers the track has in regards to instrumentation and melody||)

[fast forge]

Depending on the capabilities of the replicator, I wonder if it would see the metallivore as a threat to its existence

[hexed forge]

Maybe

Hopefully

Because Gateway feels so dead

I need vibes similar to V3 🥺

Ambience/soundtrack wise

[muted reef]

Hell yes

Legacy excelled in that aspect

[ornate comet]

I want consistent ambient environment sounds

I’m tired of dead silence in a tropical rainforest

[muted reef]

Odd that the worse version of the game feels more like the intended experience sometimes

Lets have music set at different times of day like legacy and then music properly set in different areas

What's music box's new name?

[hexed forge]

No clue

[muted reef]

If tisso keeps camo stuff I hope it looks like predator cloak tech. Standing really still is where it excels but you still have to pay attention to see it when it's moving

[patent ginkgo]

the island sleeps, i think

[fast forge]

@acoustic osprey Do you know what this set of dark lines is?

We've got it on the map for delta too

[hexed forge]

Whoever makes vulnona probably made that as a mistake

Either a bug or some weird sketch mark when they worked or updated the map

[acoustic osprey]

no its from kadins as well, as it came from him (vulnona used his)

no idea besides from that

[hexed forge]

yay

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/jecka-jecka-class-of-09-class-of-09-class-of-09-jecka-class-of-09-anime-gif-12043385038155831811

[polar bramble]

paths?

[unborn knot]

Ok, so I had this theory, dinosaurs are on the island, aka (The Isle), and humans are with them in these abandoned bases, surviving off of what people left behind. 👍

[acoustic osprey]

of titans... (but no)

pretty sure it could be potential zones
PZs? MZs? no idea

[lethal moat]

Isle birthday time

[acoustic osprey]

soon...

will we get anything? Ha
maybe something for the general isle peoples — maybe a little thing

I kinda wish we could get Codex II
but anything like that or lore related is probably a .1% chance 😔

if GUTS was out, it would've been cool to do Bunker trailer redo
ah well

[lethal moat]

[nimble fractal]

I'm foaming at my mouth I just want to run around the Island as a human or a humanoid creature and survive

That giant facility is some dream level stuff it's so amazing I just I AGHH

[acoustic osprey]

I want The lab right now

[knotty locust]

going to Z walk around the docks as a gen 1

[nimble fractal]

YYEEEAAAHHH 🔥

I really want G1 gameplay to be pure violence and kill on sight type of thing

[acoustic osprey]

unrealistic to be fair

don was asked about its gameplay recently, i think maybe Owl even asked

but it doesn't seem like Gen1s will get a very specific gameplay niche

unless i was thinking of Gen2s

[nimble fractal]

But hey, at least these people who want to only murder poor little dinosaurs will have it in the form of that creature

[knotty locust]

i believe the answer was "survive" (paraphrasing)

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much yeah

[nimble fractal]

Survive 🔥

[acoustic osprey]

like Gen2s

a bit of a shame
but oh well

[knotty locust]

i was trying to ask if theres any more to it but i dont think my intention passed through my thoughtless brainspeak

[acoustic osprey]

happens !!!!

[knotty locust]

im still expecting the sacrifice thing

but waaaaaaay off in the future

[nimble fractal]

Gen 1 nesting when......

[acoustic osprey]

it BEST happen

Don confirmed an altar years ago (instead of murder hole)

[knotty locust]

speculating that we'll get very basic gameplay for a long time before they get fleshed out

like current gen 2s

[acoustic osprey]

2022 is calling
they want their Class back for tribal mating convo

[nimble fractal]

Murder hole?
What in the world is murder hole and why did I miss it

[nimble fractal]

AUGH

[acoustic osprey]

the sacrifice pit basically
old old art

[nimble fractal]

Ah

We wish (yes, WE) Gen1 will get a sacrifice-to-progress mechanic to become stronger 🙏 should go outside at night for a falling star tonight to wish it happen

[knotty locust]

in regards to the sacrifice thing though

do you think itll be rudimentary (like just killing something and thats considered a sacrifice) or do you think itll be somewhat more advanced (manually dragging and dropping a corpse into the pit)

[acoustic osprey]

part of me wants them to be advanced and unique and give meaning to want to play a monster humanoid
and not just 'oh it is a bigger humand that can climb 🥰 '

[nimble fractal]

I'd say, locating the sacrificial places beforehand and dragging the bodies there would be so good

[acoustic osprey]

like the physical design is cool, the lore is cool
but like

you need a proper reason to play "X" thing

especially when Evrima has been trying to give unique identifiers to playables

[nimble fractal]

You'd actually have some kind of, areal of habitat for the creatures, as you want to kill things closer so you don't want to drag for too long

[acoustic osprey]

the old 2019 hopeful 'want we want for v3 concept art' before recode had about 4 of the 'temple' sacrifical places location in 4 seperate points of the map

[nimble fractal]

Traps crafting...

I hardly see how that will work

Oh
Placing them in human structures..

[acoustic osprey]

we once knew that gen1s could build on top of human buildings

but that was...

[nimble fractal]

If we craft, there should be items for crafting

And an inventory kinda-system

Or, probably, at least bringing required items to one place

[acoustic osprey]

apparently there is a concept from another game in the game files

[nimble fractal]

[knotty locust]

god please

[acoustic osprey]

your house is my house

[knotty locust]

dondi if youre listening PLEASE confirm thats still a thing PLEASE IM BEGGING

[acoustic osprey]

reconfirm

[nimble fractal]

We beg 😭 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

lots of once confirmed things
but long long ago now (still evrima days though)

[knotty locust]

i want to build massive huts atop the tiniest rest room for no reason besides funny

having to collect logs and other materials to make a grand fortress above a lightpost

[nimble fractal]

So
A nesting mechanic
But with extra steps

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, buildings should be cooler nesting mechanic

but with the 'nesting bit'
and more so allowing the ability to allow spawning from there - via invite or public

as if being sent into a 'company hq/home base'

[nimble fractal]

That's...what I just said but you said it FANCIER ✨

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

it's been an idea i've had and i HOPE really comes for Gen1s and Gen2s

[nimble fractal]

Same 😔

[acoustic osprey]

buildings should act as spawn points, IF claimed by a group (company!!) of course

[nimble fractal]

Repairing the generator makes it a spawn po-

.......yeah, same brqincell for us in that case

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, having some sort of mission objective once you claim
then unlocking it as a spawn point would be good

[knotty locust]

put that idea in general feedvac

[acoustic osprey]

DMing dawndi instead sorry

[knotty locust]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-crawling-up-viralhog-tongue-out-pet-lizard-gif-16773830479409764224

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-baby-ai-baby-laughing-ai-baby-baby-gif-17394836155970552795

[nimble fractal]

Purple role privileges 😔 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

no, long time lore privilege basically

or Dondi felt sorry for me

either way, basically the same thing

[nimble fractal]

I love how everyone saw the hole in the walls and shattered windows and went like "omg a strain!!!" forgetting that humans can be even worse, with all the grenades, explosives and guns

[strange shell]

"humans can be even worse"
Like strains aren't just another man-made weapon

[nimble fractal]

Even a decent-sized strong animal can do such damage, not talking about how easy it can break the windows

[nimble fractal]

Yeah and humans are also the ones able to put them down if needed
Though, what sacrifices should they go through to do that - another question

[nimble fractal]

Anky reference 🔥

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
the big one definitely might be

but that one tunnel-like hole in some of the fences

definitely not a strain

unless we have a strain that can shoot cannon

[nimble fractal]

Yeah that's what I mean

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[strong mango]

Happy 10 years guys! 🎂

[pastel plover]

I’m sure someone noticed but I think it’s the death screen when the text rolls

One of the lines says something like

‘Is anyone there!!?’

I thought that was some interesting spice

[knotty locust]

hyper hypsi with the hyper beam

[frozen totem]

Another says "HELP ME!!"
So, yeah

[nimble fractal]

Ah, yes, the last attempts of an EIP inside the dinosaur body screaming for help
How cute

Though I think it's part of a text that was found waaay way way earlier

[acoustic osprey]

||maybe too loud||

[hexed forge]

Yup sorry you’re banned
Straight to Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[wind shadow]

It’s been too long since I was last here. Time to talk isle lore theories!

I was looking at these two images from the most recent devblog, and it got me thinking

I know it says they need some weathering, but it feels kinda odd to me how among all of these compact concrete buildings and bunkers, there is one with broad glass doors, which is something you see more often with things that require presentation as opposed to functionality, which strikes me as something you want in a place that isn’t plainly for research or is visited by some “outsiders”, which likely do hold plenty of prestige, which feels all the more evident with the helicopter station on the roof. And the way the kitchen and the hallways is arranged doesn’t really fit what you would expect to see if years had passed: everything is tidy, the fridges are close and lighting still works fine

Joining the dots also with how we know there are many rather secure underground facilities, what are the odds that there are still humans (not gen 2) around, hidden somewhere safe as the disaster appears so relatively recent? Maybe people who do have very high value to the whole business actually did get away unharmed, and either went to other islands (which u don’t know if it is a possibility?) or might still be locked up somewhere

[nimble fractal]

Your theory is so well written I can not make any jokes about it or add something from my point of view

[wind shadow]

Seethe and mald

[strong mango]

Here ya go! Lightclaw said it's been here forever, but the new UI makes it easier to read now.
"The end is never the end is never-" is also apparently a Stanley Parable reference, but either way I still think it's awfully replicator of them to add such a line lol

[wind shadow]

THE END IS NEVER

we gotta keep on dying for the mother machine

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-you-have-a-debt-to-pay-potc-gif-22551643

[strong mango]

Sacrifice the juvies, we can always make more

Rumple your new pfp looks so cozy lol

[wind shadow]

The thousand life contract…

(I just love title dropping the ost)

[lethal moat]

It is blanket and hot chocolate season

[wind shadow]

True

[lethal moat]

We also know it’s related to EIPs somewhat

[wind shadow]

I recall having that convo in the past, yes

But that makes me wonder.

Are dinosaurs the only ones subjected to EIPs? Or are the two generations of humans also implanted memories and the like?

[lethal moat]

That is a fantastic question

[sudden topaz]

I got a question so how much do we know about the lore of the isle? And I was wondering if most of it is considered cannon or not?

[lethal moat]

Most of what we know is from dev reveals in discord or dissections of lore videos, everything in the google doc in the pinned comments is at least soft confirmed

[fast forge]

The human dialogue mixed in is pretty freaky

The signs of a panicked person trapped inside a heartless machine

[acoustic osprey]

Happy 10 years!!

[civic pollen]

[hexed forge]

Oooo yeahh

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-edge-runner-edge-runners-cyberpunk-edgerunner-cyberpunk2077-gif-27635553

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/party-parrot-parrot-jump-gif-20376226

[acoustic osprey]

ha... yeah...

[civic pollen]

[acoustic osprey]

like having the INTRUDER video break the painful year and a half lore silence

but i wish it was posted properly (and not include some things that should be updated)

like negative Hz !! (illegal !!)

[civic pollen]

i getcha

[wind shadow]

Imagine having an ending where you marry the replicator

Kinda like Ranni in Elden Ring

[barren ruin]

the only ending with a marriage involved is our brains getting divorced from the machine to finally truly die in peace.

[wind shadow]

Neutral good ending

Sounds kinda like the awakening ending in Bloodborne

[barren ruin]

the bittersweet ending of "you can't be saved, but you can stop suffering"

[wind shadow]

[barren ruin]

pretty funny when you've "technically" died a few times and you tell people "been to the other side, the peace and quiet is amazing but they really gotta work on the beaches and margaritas."

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-gif-12945843696836467887

[hexed forge]

It’ll probably be posted whenever Rex comes to live… for some reason .. yay

[potent pond]

is there any document or something i can read to know more about the new lore? since i think the old document with lore is now outdated?

[merry zodiac]

This is i think the best we have now

Hopefully updating it soon

[ionic fog]

Did AE Terminal die it just gives me a page host error

[merry zodiac]

Yea

[ionic fog]

[civic pollen]

heck

[merry zodiac]

Yeah Kadin has something in the works….

[ionic fog]

AE Two

[civic pollen]

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the legality surrounding treatment of EIPs would be, I personally think it’d be treated like human organs in terms of jurisdiction and regulation

[fast forge]

Like any new technology, there probably is no legislation at all

[civic pollen]

our brand new patented technology: EIP ™ !

[fast forge]

On top of the fact that legislation is heavily influenced by the motives of private corporations, and if Apollo is as large as we've been led to believe, they can probably afford a platoon of lobbyists

[desert mountain]

Guys what is the top discussion around the: "Dinosaurs are an unfortunate requirement" quote from dondi when he responded the - why dinosaurs? It's because they are harvesting the mutations/genetic code the dinosaurs naturally produce throught their life-cycles in the replication "machine" so they can use it to develop medicine and their own bio-hacks?

and how do you guys think they build those? by draining the ocean perhaps? their plan was to house big groups of dinos in here for a controlled enviroment?

[hexed forge]

I’m pretty sure this was a semi-aquatic containment facility lol

Rather than for any land creatures.

Nothing to do with draining the oceans since the surrounding area is not connected to the ocean at all. Just rocky hills and jungle

[fast forge]

Yeah they just dug it out, like building an elephant pen

[acoustic osprey]

agreed

[acoustic osprey]

something about lobbying with AE
doesn't really answer such, but an interesting question and answer from 2023

Hacker #10YearsGone

— 10/07/2023 14:44
Hmmm, I should probably go for another simple thing.

Would Apollo reasonably have ties to nations around the globe? Not only in terms of funding in exchange for products and research Apollo provides, but also requesting or managing specific programs within Apollo. For instance, if the USA wanted to research something, would they request that of Apollo?

Or is Apollo entirely self reliant and self focused.

Don — 10/07/2023 14:45
When you play with what they play with, you do not get the courtesy of choice.

[waxen shard]

Wasn't it confirmed Apollo operated by its self? Completely self reliant besides the employee's

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know how Apollo runs itself or above
a company can still be 'formally run by itself' whilst still being foreignly controlled by a third party - ||looking at you specific government of my country||

but, however, this is a quote from Don (what i sent prior)

we don't truly know what Don truly means, to be fair
Maybe they have a contract with certain countries or have made a contractual pledge to a union of some sorts?

we have no idea
Still can mean they can be ran by themselves, just that they have minimal political power to choose which government or governments to work with/for

i mean, if Apollo / AE's big goal is truly (knowing the nature of corruption from power and the erosion of time) towards climate change
realistically aiming for everyone is far more necessary to that goal

[acoustic osprey]

damn
they removed the post process effects again from replay filter (like body cam and sway, etc)

[wind shadow]

Imagine them doing the play of the century and putting Gen 1 reference in an intruder video after the next live update

And so we start act 2 of isle lore theories

[waxen shard]

They must have at least some connection to some sort of government.

It would be hard to explain how Apollo completely afforded building it's facilities on the Islands without a little help.

Like they have Dams on the Island, they are making their own power probably, but I don't see how they could afford to make a Dam without a bit of help

And that brings into question, how did they make this Facility? Did Apollo's employees build it or did they hire contractors to build it? Did they just collect enough staff that had the ability to construction the facility?

Or did the a government lend people to assist in the construction of the facility

[sinful umbra]

Well it's not actually a Lore theory I have but I began writing a book which is about the Isle and some lore theories from my side are in it( Not in the beginning tho). And I'd like to send it in here.

[lethal moat]

The english channel was a private investment, things absolutely can be done privately, there just needs to be incentive

[snow jasper]

i would read this discussion, but my brain is fried from certain companies lobbying certain governments in the real world

[lethal moat]

We calculated the perimeter to be something like 2 billion or more in strictly materials alone

[lethal moat]

Apollo is a corporation, it has lots of companies I’m sure they can pull from, like Apollo Engineering

[rapid chasm]

Slavery

Depends on where the island is. There could possibly have been native tribes on the island Apollo enslaved to build such areas.

[snow jasper]

I mean, slavery is possible, just not in the traditional sense

replicate your own workforce

[lethal moat]

Seems a bit too colonial, and they already have people signing the thousand life contract, so forced enslavement seems like a stretch

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/mitosis-gif-17827485766806334777

[strong mango]

Oooh I've actually thought about this! So Don told us "AE's roots are in botany" and clarified it was for food. Further explaining that "You actually get to dinosaurs in a very few amount of steps from food"
So what about that? We already have red dye 40 bushes and blue berry blast flavored leaves and for a brief stint we had purple I believe. They were called Apollan-K Trifolium. Trifolium is basically clovers, and they belong to a broader line of legumes-beans. We already know how crazy the soy industry is in real life, so why not make something sturdier? Something that grows overnight? AE isn't shy to genetic engineering, so hell yeah let's make the ultimate GMO.
Enter our hypothetical kudzu. Kudzu has BEEN AROUND, seen some things, but what if they found something older? Prehistoric even, something used to much harsher environments. Now let's scramble those genetics, and now we've accidentally popped out things like the Mendys bush, the metallivore, the razorbark and ArbourBurst. (Tapwing made some fabulous visuals in devblog 58 and 59)
Okay so now we have the same problem we had with Kudzu when it was introduced into the south in the 19th century, it's TOO good at what it does, and the dang thing is so prehistoric that much like how America didn't have the kudzu beetle, there's no natural way to get rid of it.
But what can munch on a metric TON of prehistoric vegetation on the daily? What can digest something that isn't part of any natural vegetative diet today? Something from the same time of course.
A couple of genetic twists here and there and we have a 9ton lawn mower at our disposal, as well as a few extras to keep the lawn mower population in check as well. Now you have a self regulating ecosystem where you can harvest both genetic code and whatever food product you were initially investing in

Forgive my Ted talk guys

[visual timber]

That, Actually makes so much Sense.

[bold crater]

Damn that's a good theory right there!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezy-gif-1197693694066191278

[wind shadow]

“Cannibals” coming back like that would be so peak

one day. With some completely unexpected trailcam hinting it

[acoustic osprey]

technically it was botant
then they lead to food —> hence dinosaurs

(whilst dinosaurus not being for food... )

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[lethal moat]

We have gen 1 and the eyeless

[hexed forge]

I think they know

[acoustic osprey]

i think you misread what i commented, my apologises

the dondi quote i sent is about AE not having the ability to choose with what government (or other potential large corporate bodies, maybe)
not that they cannot work with a government

I definitely agree that they would need to have some sort of large backing to have a profit somewhere

what they want to do (climate change) has to be a government-tiered plan anyways
so...
my thoughts go to the idea that AE's main goal (if they still stay uncorrupted towards the goal of climate change) is working with every governmental body ever — which is pretty impossible knowing politics is poo.
So, maybe they have some sort of contractual pledge, some sort of contract, that limits them to only maybe one or two countries. Or maybe a union that they can only work with for a certain amount of time.

If they cannot choose (as we know what Don said from his quote)
Then how could that be? is the question
Potentially contractual, maybe even they have too many ties to the America or to some other nation / union / commonwealth
because, I can imagine, they may have a lot of higher ups whose lives come from different parts of the world — emphasis on those higher ups coming from a nation.
But who knows! Will we ever know...

we might be see some references, definitely not "here is who we work with"
with maybe a sheet or two detailing maybe shipment coming to or fro from where, etc

[desert mountain]

That's an awesome theory and thought process! Loved to read it

[wind shadow]

Yeah I know

[desert mountain]

This game lore scratchs an itchy in my brain i never knew i had since i first read the original Jurassic Park novel and more recently other biology focused sci-fi like Children of time. WHY YOU CAN'T BE LIKE THIS MODERN JURASSIC WORLD MOVIES, I NEED TO SEE THE HUBRIS OF GENETIC POWER UPON HUMANITY EMBODIED AS DINOSAURS AND MUTANTS.

[knotty locust]

because they don’t care about the JP lore, they just want to SELL, SELL and SELL

[acoustic osprey]

i just Dondi was able to do lore without interruption of the game 😔

[strong mango]

Very curious what the lore master thinks: Do you think they made things like the ArbourBurst and such BEFORE they focused on food production? That would make the metallivore subject to some very interesting implications

[acoustic osprey]

i genuinely wish this game was just a singleplayer survival game like Sons of the Forest
multiplayer is just always a pain

or even a book

pain pain pain

[acoustic osprey]

i can imagine stuff like that being the crossover between the time of botany and the time of dinosaurs (for AE)

[strong mango]

Ty

[snow jasper]

mmmmm concept art book

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-crawling-up-viralhog-tongue-out-pet-lizard-gif-16773830479409764224

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/negan-gif-22807016

[strong mango]

Oooooh, interesting

[acoustic osprey]

(especially, maybe, being an early prototype for dino strains. Knowingly or not. Maybe)

[desert mountain]

[lethal moat]

I would sacrifice at least 2 omniraptor children to get isle lore merch

[acoustic osprey]

depends
I suppose the 'megaflora' could count

just depends

how do you define strains?
and also strain plants?
Are they the same as dino strains? In what regards?
etc

[lethal moat]

I’d say some strain plants are likely megaflora, but definitely not all

Vines in particular

[desert mountain]

Agreed. Cancel evrima and give us a book

[strong mango]

You would love the mystery flesh pit, it's a wonderfully crafted world RICH with all kinds of lore

[acoustic osprey]

i think, in regards to the oceanic megaflora, i believe that is most likely to be strain related

(proto-strain or not, etc)

[snow jasper]

strangled and tangled in the kelp

[acoustic osprey]

but yeah, not everything of course

[lethal moat]

I do think there’s also the potential for funkiness not related to strains

https://tenor.com/view/bill-cipher-gravity-falls-gif-16288621248247110878

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[desert mountain]

Ooooh i've watched some videos about it long time ago, they got new stuff?

[strong mango]

I have no clue

[hexed forge]

So do we remember Don mentioning a Trike Lore Video?

So like, does anyone think that's coming with the intruder video or was it potentially scrapped/halted

[snow jasper]

triceratops trumps rex any day of the week

[lethal moat]

I don’t remember hearing about a trike lore video

And has the intruder video been confirmed as something we’ll get? I thought that was something that was going to be left intentionally ambiguous

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey Do you have the quote, I can't look for it rn

[desert mountain]

Oh i hope we get something with the official release of rex for sure, we will probably get videos featuring it and trike together

[hexed forge]

Nvm found it

[lethal moat]

Intriguing

[desert mountain]

Do you guys remember the good old days of the cerato/gallie/beipi release?

We got so much stuff

[snow jasper]

somebody make a "Yes honey" meme of dondi being forced through the strenuous task of scripting a lore video

[desert mountain]

Put him and seiza side by side

[hexed forge]

Im pretty sure Don said he's waiting for Rex to release to live to release the video officially

[snow jasper]

i dont think seiza has nearly as much gyp

[strong mango]

What's all this about an intruder video y'all are talking about? I'm intrigued

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-george-point-of-mice-and-men-gif-16131327

[rapid chasm]

force them to work to death and the living will act as test subjects

[rapid chasm]

easier to silence

[strong mango]

Yall are too kind for my silly goose nature, but I saw rumpled talk about Gen ones in it today and I just figured maybe I missed something or if yall were just spit balling again

[hexed forge]

https://youtu.be/YeLfWrS8J14

[strong mango]

OOOOOOOHHHHH OKAY TYSM EVERYONE 😄

[desert mountain]

I hate that you miss so much stuff about lore if you dont watch dondi streams

[hexed forge]

It is a bummer

[lethal moat]

Last stream was solid tho

[snow jasper]

https://youtu.be/EFGtPifO_3E?t=21

[hexed forge]

ooohhh yeahhh

[snow jasper]

i want this to be checked in with dondi again

[lethal moat]

Last we talked to punch, defecation was still planned, but lots of stuff might have changed

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/goldblum-sexy-ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-gif-4798691

[desert mountain]

Damn. 5 years uh?

[snow jasper]

i dont like it

i've known of the isle for the entire 10 years its been known to the public

[desert mountain]

I feel you, but it sometimes surprises me that this game is this old and we are still discussing stuff from 5-6 years ago

So much changes, and yet there's still so much to happen

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

no recode wasn't 5 to 6 years ago....

https://tenor.com/view/rick-grimes-twd-the-walking-dead-rick-grimes-coma-gif-1227282216097103455

still feels like yesterday

[hexed forge]

hop on utahraptor Evrima NA 1, meet at utah rock!!

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[acoustic osprey]

i do wonder if these lore videos will be no longer dropped on YouTube

but rather in-game, accessible through finding such

i think i've talked about this many many times ago

[snow jasper]

one can only hope

[acoustic osprey]

but me and Swag were talking about it last night

[snow jasper]

i can confirm

[acoustic osprey]

basically why isn't the INTRUDER video been official released

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/crash-out-baby-gif-18410391478417409488

[snow jasper]

wuhh

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/negan-gif-22807016

[acoustic osprey]

i wholeheartedly believe we'll be getting something like that

to be fair, INTRUDER not being released is probably a lazy-aspect of Dondi just not really caring / forgetting about it
that being to worry about The Isle itself more

because, of course, we are the lowest priority. So, no need to overtly worry

but still, i do believe something like that is on the menu. I hope...

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1191871969105281146/1228754577738960916/togif.gif

maybe i should watch the intruder video again

[desert mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/wojak-hug-gif-27650210

[snow jasper]

it still grosses me out

[fast forge]

I missed it

[lethal moat]

The one with the infrasound rex trailer?

[fast forge]

ye

[lethal moat]

Damn

[fast forge]

err wait

I'm confused now
I thought the last few streams were just him playing other games?

[acoustic osprey]

the unreal infrasound because the supposed 'negative hz' cannot exist !! 😔

[fast forge]

(Although I did miss the infrasound stream)

[acoustic osprey]

iirc the most recent ones were, yeah

[snow jasper]

i though infrasound was just sound that humans cant hear

😞

[acoustic osprey]

20hz and below

apparently INTRUDER can do negative 15hz

[acoustic osprey]

(subwoofer-level frequencies)

https://tenor.com/view/mock-why-exasperated-oh-lord-simpsons-gif-6712454037734860562

[snow jasper]

if it cannot exist, then math is wrong, if math is wrong, the universe is wrong, if the universe is wrong, we‘re all gonna die

[acoustic osprey]

quite true

[snow jasper]

but math tells us we‘re all gonna die anyways, so maybe math is right

unless

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[snow jasper]

the recent kurzegesagt video got me wondering

[lethal moat]

I saw that lol, looking forward to seeing how things shake down in astronomy over the next few years

[patent ginkgo]

heard about that from a friend in an astronomy class, then saw the video next day, was crazy

btw, my top (and only) podcast on spotify was the lore one lol

[acoustic osprey]

the isle was my top listened to artist...

[muted reef]

Yes please find them on monitors as humans or such

[acoustic osprey]

and/or finding them through lore hunts

[muted reef]

Can't really watch them in game though

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind in-lore having accessible to find links to the internet with lore

[acoustic osprey]

no real way to download them properly without such

like i would love glance sheets in-game

but how would we be able to read them

(of course, being able to download them through the EXTRAS panel would be best though)

[willow marten]

how do i find the patrol zones when they dont appear on scent?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe having the ability to watch lore videos in the EXTRAS tab would be better then in-game

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

[willow marten]

yeah no one is telling me thought i might have luck here thanks

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[patent ginkgo]

same

[acoustic osprey]

hahaha

[nimble fractal]

Same....

[crystal cairn]

rumor is there may be new crabs. standing by for confirmation

[snow jasper]

mmm, delicious

[crystal cairn]

same model

[lethal moat]

chomky boi

[crystal cairn]

this was fan made based off that stream a while back. interesting to see now

[ornate comet]

What do you mean

[acoustic osprey]

hmm, maybe the lab will be where the Labs are

thinking about it now

[crystal cairn]

that's what I'm saying! and the new crabs are there too now

[acoustic osprey]

crab law

[crystal cairn]

old stream a bunch of randomly named locations on the map were shown as labeled here

[acoustic osprey]

but i suppose it depends on the pipeline and process
is there are any use to having the lab next to The Pits?

[ornate comet]

ohhhhh tbh i didnt even read the pois I was looking at the highlighted area. I remember that stream

[crystal cairn]

yes, the transistor port for moving animals/subjects

the pits are whatever

[acoustic osprey]

i do wonder what the transistor was supposed to be though

because it was elevated, no? Rather then a dock

[crystal cairn]

could have been a rough block up

because there is a tower and dock there now

mock up, rather even

[acoustic flame]

what does iirc mean

[fast forge]

animal enclosure to study animals

[fast forge]

if I recall correctly

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, Don describes the things on stream as a red herring (or something alike to that)

basically clickbait

[crystal cairn]

and the grass isn't real either

[acoustic osprey]

because it gets updated again!!

[fast forge]

He said that it might be a red herring, and only after he saw us getting excited about it. I'd bet that some of the stuff was not guaranteed to make it to us, and he didn't want to get hopes up

[crystal cairn]

well ofc. but I still think the labs will be SW

[fast forge]

I'm still hoping we get the visitor center in the swamp

There's still a big open space for it, and a road that leads to the north side

[fast forge]

Who knows. I've noticed a number of areas with flattened open terrain across the map. Hopefully they become human stuff

[fast forge]

I think the lab location in this image is where that little pond is at the pits, so I'm not sure just where they'll put it (if they do)

[crystal cairn]

approximate. plus this map is fanmade based on the stream

[fast forge]

Yeah I just meant that I don't remember a space that looks cleared for more human buildings in that area. Obviously they can always change stuff around, I just wonder where it would go

[acoustic osprey]

"Operations South" at the middle of the swamp as well
Also "Access Tunnel" instead of Tunnel Entrance
Then it has, under it, "Tunnel (to A....")
- Atrium? Its a bit far away though, but potentially

[crystal cairn]

this is the exact shot I've been thinking of. carved into a mountainside (the mountain no longer exists)

[acoustic osprey]

also the stream has a beautiful amount of unreleased music that i believe to be Isle music

[acoustic osprey]

perfect fit for it honestly

maybe that idea for the Labs was put into the mountain side of East Lake/Pond/Swamp

as it got that window wall a while back
in a dug into point at its mountain

although, the new model for the Lab is pretty big and i don't think is to be made into a mountain

if only GUTS... Although i doubt GUTS would stop some buildings being built into a mountain

of course, you'd assume a GUTS entrance would be in such

[crystal cairn]

do we think Ben is in the lab

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder if GUTS has been fully taken out of Gateway in-lore and in-game

or just in-game

[acoustic osprey]

he is in wherever The TANKS are

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezy-gif-1197693694066191278

[crystal cairn]

certainly the lab then

[acoustic osprey]

which could be a sector in a lab or somewhere

[acoustic osprey]

maybe, there could be more labs on the island
or a specific facility called The TANKS

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[acoustic osprey]

man i really hope Codex 2 (IF IT WILL EXIST 🙏 ) has a bunch of old ambience tracks

i need to double down for next Spotify wrapped

[acoustic osprey]

in reply to this, it is back now
yay

i do find it ever interesting that 1980 is the lowest year you can go back though

and yet 2200 the furtherest

always intriguing

like you'd think AE might date back a little bit
not to say that this confirms they started at 1980 at the earliest

potentially that is only when they may have started Dinosaurs

nonetheless, interesting thoughts

[hexed forge]

2172

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[steep bear]

there arent any eu 5x growth servers

it's only murica

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel

[steep bear]

oops

[acoustic osprey]

i forgive you

[low scarab]

I thought I was the only one with the isle ost in mine 💀

[acoustic osprey]

lol

me and jolly had it as well

[fast forge]

I wonder if the locations in pink were intended as underground locations

[acoustic osprey]

like the salmony pinkish-reds?

honestly, i can see that

[fast forge]

Did we know this existed?

[hexed forge]

yes

[fast forge]

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

added a bit more to my isle music catalogue
not the most lorest of conversations

but it just contains the right amount of ambient music from a Don stream

[ionic fog]

I haven’t stumbled across it yet, how deep does the underground go, I crave the volcano size complex to explore

[acoustic osprey]

just the standard

and ha... if only we would get the volcano hub... no longer...

[ionic fog]

So nothing further to the left? Just the entrance

[ionic fog]

Yeah… is that for certain dead dead, without f2 I can’t get under the map to find it

Send in rumple to scout

[acoustic osprey]

with Vis (the human building man) saying RIP GUTS

i believe it is basically dead

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

and there is definitely nothing under there anymore

which is a shame, big shame 🙁

[ionic fog]

Visualtech giveth, visualtech taketh away, colossal above ground buildings

[acoustic osprey]

unreal engine giveth and taketh away... 😔

https://tenor.com/view/and-god-taketh-away-and-god-taketh-away-gif-6357050272012842114

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bap-blackcat-orangecat-gif-6242361574587704213

[fast forge]

not as far as others, one side immediately ends in rubble
the other side probably had a closed door or something, I know I couldn't proceed

[fast forge]

There's still some underground stuff there

but not much

[acoustic osprey]

in the volcano?

just the entrances you mean?
maybe some of the GUTS basic tunnels though, some of the 'highway' ones

[fast forge]

Pretty sure yeah
But it's just a single big room inside the entrance iirc

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, theres two of those ones i believe

[fast forge]

the same one that used to lead further in, but now has closed doors

ok yeah

[acoustic osprey]

which could've linked to the volcano Hub but no longer 😔

but the actual volcano Hub was never properly accessible, iirc
i had it streamed. Basically only existed in one or two patches (if more than one, it was continuous from the first)

[tropic saddle]

GUTS will most likely make a return in the future when they figure out a decent way to cull the rest of the enviroment so it doesnt render in while you go underground. (which is easier said than done)

as before you would go underground and your FPS would die cause you're now rendering in everything.

[lethal moat]

[low scarab]

Sad

[fast forge]

This was what I figured was happening

[acoustic osprey]

specifically Z Culling

however, if the person who is specifically worried about that specific aspect in UE5 (VisualTech) says "RIP GUTS"
I believe it is likely meaning, in my opinion, that it won't be coming for a long time

and that, rather, it has been moved away from the pipeline

likely why the new Lab complex is usurping all of LAB IX's stuff

[muted reef]

As in NEVER coming?

[acoustic osprey]

for a long time, in my opinion

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-rage-destroy-fantastic-mr-fox-movie-gif-16271634

[acoustic osprey]

i would not be surprised if it was changed to another map

just... lore...

what will be of it, if anything

to be fair, we had no lore confirming GUTS to Gateway

of course, ERRANT-291 documents exists but like... no confirmation on that being on Gateway
(as it has a GUTS reference in it)

[civic pollen]

lore map lore map

[acoustic osprey]

THE RESERVE

i will never embarrass myself and say Preserve again lol (in here)

[civic pollen]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-crawling-up-viralhog-tongue-out-pet-lizard-gif-16773830479409764224

now we wait

for a bit...

i'm gonna guess Don will be here (in this channel) some time in 2026

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-power-power-outage-simpsons-darkness-hurricane-gif-12515858

[acoustic osprey]

1 and a half years later !

https://tenor.com/view/bradpitt-gif-17486919993743766170

[austere bloom]

What is guts?

[acoustic osprey]

basically the tunnel system

you can see some entrances around gateway
especially in the east dock

[austere bloom]

Oh thats what those are

that would be sick, sucks they cut it

[acoustic osprey]

well, seemed to have cut it - at least
It's still very up in the air on what has officially been decreed

but yeah, still :/

[fast forge]

(I didn't find it)

[dense quiver]

Ha-hey! Dat me!

I actually came to this channel to point out that if any of y’all are using technology to guess time periods, there is medical equipment in the game now, which is WAY more likely to by state of the art than the computers and monitors, based on every government funded building and/or business office I’ve ever been in.

This site got expanded RECENTLY. Check it out.

[acoustic osprey]

if only it was exactly new

but seeing marketplace assets is always a 50/50 reaction within me

one side knows why they must use them, the other side is just a little bit more sad

and i hope they do a big overhaul once things can truly be sorted out

[acoustic osprey]

this base (K15) plus C10 got updated around 3-4 weeks ago

preluded by the I12 update

they honestly are good revisions of these areas

K15 is probably my favourite at the moment, both with Atrium view (of course) and the cool bridged bunker

which actually works better as a bunker then the other 'bunkers' at these locations

[acoustic osprey]

oh we have... most definitely...

as you may remember from our convos a few days ago, i believe
it's basically too weird to pin point

like
with the inclusion of the operating room - a lot of these machines are fairly modern.
Does that mean AE only leaves in the 2010s / 2020s? Therefore being actively for (depending on how canon we call the living roadmap as a suggestion to the lore timeline) roughly 30-40 years

basically from the 90s to 2010s/20s

being that the living roadmap gave the dates 1994-99

of course, because the living roadmap is quite dubious
I think our best bet is both waiting for better documentation of dates and looking at in-game human assets

[lethal moat]

If EIPs remember things between lives
What's to stop them from just nonstop trying to escape and perfecting the method each time, unless they just terminate problematic ones

I would be the most spiteful lil goober if I signed that contract lol

I also wonder, are there people who signed the contract who absolutely shouldn't have been asked to, and AE later learned the consequences of that

Force the problematic eip into early phase experiments

[acoustic osprey]

Imagine if a single player version of the isle was basically a rougelike lol

[knotty locust]

island survivors, a vamprie survivors clone

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[strange shell]

Like The Evil within 1 and 2's lore, where they keep mistakenly putting psychopaths inside their brain-powered simulations

[acoustic osprey]

But this time, poor folk and dying people

I do wonder what type of people do sign the contract

[strange shell]

Isle players

[acoustic osprey]

Whole lots of assumptions though, but still

[acoustic osprey]

The worst kind... oh no... no wonder...

[strange shell]

When I think about it The Evil Within's lore is very stupid

TEW 1 : Some psychopath builds a machine that allows to connect people's brains, puts himself inside it and obtains godlike powers

TEW 2: Yeah the first machine allowed psychopaths to get godlike powers when they get inside it, but it was kinda cringe so we improved it and now they cannot get godlike powers
puts a psychopath inside the machine

he obtains godlike powers

Oh no

[lethal moat]

Something about noises

[acoustic osprey]

WHAT!!!!

might be the thing that Wedge was talking about?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/mlFHYo9WYoF.gif

[lethal moat]

What did wedge mention

Alarm, interesting choice of words

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390370379184214097/1395909752189620286/togif-34.gif

[acoustic osprey]

To end the month, the time has come to dig up an old concept I had designed a few years ago for an exciting audio component that will be making its way into the isle soon, the first of many additions to help breathe life into the sound of the island. More to come soon.

50/50 on it being it
as it seems like it'd be more so in designing it from concept
or, IF lucky, at an early mixing stage

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, i am curious on the mixing process that Wedge and the team take for sound design
My degree doesn't cover video games, so I presume things just happen in an external DAW - but i believe UE5 is suitable now to to replace having the necessity of DAWs

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bradpitt-gif-17486919993743766170

i did not catch this though but 🙏

[pseudo fable]

It is absolutely not capable of replacing DAWs in any way, shape, or form.

That'd be like replacing a full development cycle with AI.

Just no.

[acoustic osprey]

ah, so it's there but yeah... not perfect. lol

[pseudo fable]

It has value but it is not something that ever goes so far as to replace a DAW.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting, that's good to know
Nothing can beat Pro Tools and i doubt Epic would really put the solid amount of time that Avid puts into PT

still good to know though

i think i'm glad that likely won't go down the gaming pipeline (hearing about the fun here is always a good reminder why games are pain)

[pseudo fable]

Start of games are fun.

[acoustic osprey]

the imaging is always the fun part

https://tenor.com/view/pepocry-pepe-pepe-the-frog-frog-cry-gif-13668806469495645945

then the doing part...

[pseudo fable]

Both are part of the start.

[acoustic osprey]

true true

i think i just lack the being able to actually put word into screen part
so no experience in that regard

[pseudo fable]

Get started. Fuck up a lot. Fuck up more. Keep goin'.

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, hell yeah

[pseudo fable]

There's people who have no concept how to make a game and just throw a Dreamworks track over marketplace assets and raise half a million dollars.

https://tenor.com/vOxs.gif

Trailers are shown at E3 using demo maps in marketplace assets.

Other dinosaur games use marketplace maps outright in their previews and gameplay demonstrations while talking about how great their environment is.

When it's pointed out, no one cares.

There is nothing stopping you.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-sad-hands-shake-shaking-gowr-gow-god-of-war-god-of-war-ragnarok-gif-5690171085387099711

honestly, yeah.

-# I think i need to upgrade my PC because i'm getting a bunch of issues recently
But i might just tinker along with a few 'ideas' once i actually find the proper time

nothing perfect, but if I enjoy it, I'd say there'd be perfection in that

[rustic bay]

So before the Christmas is the last update? If they don’t update in that time, that’s means we need to wait Rex and Allo on 2026?

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, depends on your idea of what prerequisites are needed to count as "released"
also better to chat about in #isle-discussion

[pastel plover]

Nice work!! Interesting stuff

[pastel linden]

New question Don, the thought of smolifying the Dibble has been brewing in your mind for a bit, you leaning towards that still?

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-beer-bier-saufen-glas-gif-6536513990702332475

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-gif-25785248

[hexed forge]

hi

[merry zodiac]

Time to go look gor goodies again

[pseudo fable]

There's been things in there that haven't been found for a long while.

Months, now.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-sus-suspicious-stare-eyes-on-you-gif-7197827967440963024

[merry zodiac]

That means we are bad at our jobs

[stone echo]

When will the other EU servers be ready because I've been waiting for them for 2 hours now!!!!!

EU 10

[sonic rampart]

This channel is for discussing lore, try #isle-discussion

[crystal cairn]

okay so we are hunting again are we?

does anyone have the link to the video shown in stream of the paleo call disturbances

and did we test salt eating

[merry zodiac]

Thats west access

[merry zodiac]

Not that i know of

[hexed forge]

Water Access*

[hexed forge]

https://youtu.be/YeLfWrS8J14

[crystal cairn]

ty

[merry zodiac]

Ah you are correct know the spot but mixed up the names

[crystal cairn]

that video is really neat

I don’t think the video is related to what we are hunting for as it feels complete. The only thing worth investigating is [SALT] and if that is something obtainable in game

We’ve had a lot of new human structures added and tbh I haven’t explored them enough to know what’s new each build

[fast forge]

You think there is a salt mutation or something?

[hexed forge]

Well since Don says the secret has been in for months I doubt its related to the recently reworked bases

The bases started getting reworked mid november iirc.. maybe Im wrong..

[merry zodiac]

that doesnt mean its not in a base

yould be a cave/ a base / shoreline

[hexed forge]

🥀

[merry zodiac]

[merry zodiac]

Can we get a hint? ><

[hexed forge]

I wouldn't be surprised if the secret goodie isn't even anything major in lore/no connection other than funny easter egg

[merry zodiac]

yea

that would still be cool regardless

[crystal cairn]

fair point

[crystal cairn]

potentially

what did he mean by this

he didn’t really finish the statement

okay so, we need to test paleo calls near human facilities me thinks. I have a fg rex I can try with, just need to decide on locations worth visiting. I’m thinking Docks

big girl also has a big appetite so need to sort out her route accordingly can’t go all willy nilly

we have many leads pointing to something sound related. paleo calls. paleo call video. alarm meme. wedge comments

“emergent atavism” - a return to ancestry. hmm so could just be the coming of the paleo calls being a “new” behaviour

definitely something sound related

why is rex suddenly using its paleo calls?

are the rexes hearing something and responding to it?

• observe sleeping bary/austro reaction to paleo call close by

[hexed forge]

A sound that is in the game that is not working/not playing

[crystal cairn]

that’s what I read it as too but then he also says there’s thing in game that haven’t been found yet that have been in for months

if it’s the trumpets I stg

[hexed forge]

yeah they are two different conversations tho

[crystal cairn]

hmm

so we should separate the hunts then you think

[hexed forge]

The context here was the patchnotes including human building changes and such

[crystal cairn]

mhm so anything new is not what “hasn’t been found”

[hexed forge]

• The sound thing hasn't been in the game until... now? Unless its in the next next patch

wait are those two connected or not

[hexed forge]

ok yes they are

[crystal cairn]

ohhh okay I missed this since I only skimmed his messages

[hexed forge]

So the sound stuff is not related to the thing that has been in the game for months

[crystal cairn]

so next patch we do the sound hunts

kk. any leads on what the one that’s been in for months?

[hexed forge]

I mean it might've been added this patch and it just wasn't mentioned in the patchnotes to hide it

[hexed forge]

nope, no leads

Dont think its anything lore related too

The only thing I can recall is the austro/bary easter egg

[crystal cairn]

okay. hmm let me think

[hexed forge]

If it has any relation to the Rex video it would be around water access or central plains

[crystal cairn]

let’s talk about trike

what do we know about trike

[hexed forge]

Nothing...

Just that a video about it was in the works that is 15 minutes long

It has not had any mentions in lore videos

nor papers

[crystal cairn]

trike video is done if Don gave the exact time. 14:14

is there any relation to this number anywhere?

so it’s done but not released, why? that’s long too

trike is gonna be my first lead then for the other hunt. we know a trike video exists. we don’t know why it hasn’t been released

you could argue it’s waiting to release along side the rex video

for what it’s worth I don’t think the time length of the video is relevant in any way other than serving as suggesting it is finished and being withheld

10.21 patch notes remarked “other secret goodies” at the bottom of the list

[hexed forge]

That was just a way to shorten the patchnotes because... yea..

At least im 90% sure

[crystal cairn]

could have been bary/austro additions

[hexed forge]

We've gotten many changes in HT regarding balance that aren't mentioned in patchnotes because I guess it would be too much..? Or just unnecessary mentions

[hexed forge]

maybe...?

[crystal cairn]

other than the tapwing art yeah I’m not sure we have any other recent trike media. 14 mins damn that is gonna be a good video

trying to find a lead but then again, who would think we’d find austro/bary in cages randomly

didn’t at one point Don allude to something in the new UI?

[hexed forge]

Yea.. and we found absolutely nothing.

[crystal cairn]

well vivid and I found the beeps

but nothing came of that iirc

[hexed forge]

nope

[crystal cairn]

personally I think it would be very difficult to sit on a 14 min completed video unless you knew when you wanted to release it

so I doubt the hunt is related to finding access to that video

we also know there is red wood debris just outside the dome

not sure how long that has been there

[lethal moat]

Or it’s one of those things we have to find

[crystal cairn]

that would be some solid patience for Don to NOT give any hints if a 14 min trail cam was still in hiding months later

[lethal moat]

Time to pull out the magnifying glass

[crystal cairn]

think I’ll explore the pits more when I get home

I’ll wait to bring my rex out for paleo testing till next patch

maybe do some self exploring of the new human bases since honestly I kinda rely on just you guys to skim those and know what’s there, what’s new etc

but then again lightclaw didn’t find the beeping in the UI after he said he searched forever

old man getting rusty perhaps

filipe burned me once saying for sure prolific reproduction was in the game. hours and hours of theory crafting and testing, multiple people involved and nothing. we find out later it was somehow not working and was added as a free mutation pick

but this is Don

[lethal moat]

I’m gonna explore the ranger stations after growing a galli since we know those got some adjustments

[crystal cairn]

if I find anything interesting I’ll post here but also sorry if it’s known/repeated. fresh, inexperienced eyes though could catch something

I’m gonna do herrera

later tonight though

[crystal cairn]

ranger stations are a good place to check for media too

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wheezy-gif-1197693694066191278

[hexed forge]

And this is The Isle

Idek if the Radio Tower bug is fixed yet/it keeps coming back

I didnt check in awhile

[crystal cairn]

bug?

go on…

if it’s the render distance then yeah that’s still in

why does it do that even

[hexed forge]

Radio Tower not rendering from a distance.. existing since the Maia HT.. yea

Maybe it was fixed already or maybe it came back. Haven't checked in weeks. Butttt..

It has been several months after Don said it was fixed on the dev build-

[hexed forge]

yay....

[crystal cairn]

but hold on. WHY is it doing that. nothing else does that. this could be a lead

[hexed forge]

They fixed it with the fences but the radio tower... they just either didn't fix it or it just keeps coming back for the radio tower specifically

[hexed forge]

how...

[crystal cairn]

the fences were doing it? never noticed

[hexed forge]

In the pits

The big thick walls

[crystal cairn]

if there are different assets and materials used to create the radio tower then maybe some assets have different functions that can not as easily be replaced

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

It's just an upscaled normal radio tower last time I checked, not sure tho

[crystal cairn]

I’ll check it out tonight

also fixed a typo my phone changed the word

different assets*

[hexed forge]

I mean it existed since the Maia HT.. Which is a bit over a year by now iirc.

soooo yeahhhhhhhhhh, not as recent as the stuff Don referred to

[crystal cairn]

there are two radio towers correct?

[hexed forge]

Two big ones yes

[crystal cairn]

what do radio towers do

[hexed forge]

And several regular ones across the map in bases

[crystal cairn]

alright we need 1 herrera at one and 1 at the other

maybe a rex at each

(after next patch) perhaps the rexes are using the towers to communicate

[hexed forge]

wha...

[crystal cairn]

it’s low frequency audio, maybe the sounds are being heard by rexes through the towers to one another. interruption. disturbance

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-13403485

[hexed forge]

yea.. uh.. the isle and stuff.. hi

[crystal cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/okkotonushi-gif-27202737

[acoustic osprey]

WHAT

[acoustic osprey]

helps that infrasound isn't audible by the human ear 😄 lol

now, HAVE we tried paleo calling at water access @hexed forge or anyone we know

[lethal moat]

I'm going omni on the off chance it involves pattern recognition

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

do you think there is a document out there?

[lethal moat]

I think whatever it is might be connected to the trike video

[crystal cairn]

okay hear me out on this

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[crystal cairn]

paleo calls and the radio towers

[acoustic osprey]

did he?

[lethal moat]

Service board looks the same I think

[crystal cairn]

yes

[hexed forge]

Im not spending 6 hours growing a rex just for an unlikely chance of that working + losing that rex to a wipe immediately after sorry

[crystal cairn]

no and I don’t think we should till next patch but I have a rex I can move to a decided location

[lethal moat]

You can get into the interior walls of the large containment thing at the pits

[crystal cairn]

I can donate my rex to the cause but understand she is big and hungry (she has efficient digestion) so def need to set a target location as to maximize her hunger drain

[crystal cairn]

spooky

[merry zodiac]

Based on my understanding there are 3 possible things we look for
*Something with sound (Possible connected to intruder)
*Something thats been present for months possibly since rex started (could be the same one with the previous)
*Someting unrelated in the updated human areas

[hexed forge]

Thats a thing at every DTA

Has been for awhile now

[hexed forge]

maybe.. but..

[crystal cairn]

what do you mean here by “intruder”?

[hexed forge]

The Rex's name is Intruder

The rex heard in that video

[crystal cairn]

ah thank you

do the radio towers in game show any signs of being currently alive/operable? lights or anything

[merry zodiac]

Would it be super elaborate to being all 4 species to that location and then something would happen? Or is that not isle like?

[lethal moat]

Jail

[hexed forge]

Just a simple red light at the top iirc,

Just like at every other one

[hexed forge]

There is no way that works in The Isle

Too many factors

[merry zodiac]

Yea thats what i thought also just worth to theorize

[acoustic osprey]

Why next patch

[crystal cairn]

@acoustic osprey this is why next patch

sorry I’m at work so if you want to see more of the conversation you’ll have to search his message for that point

[acoustic osprey]

That was before this patch came out

[crystal cairn]

was it??

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

That was when i was awake

[crystal cairn]

alright we sound hunt tonight then

where should I bring my rex though

[acoustic osprey]

Lore Hunt 2...

The only place I can imagine rex being needed is at water access basically

[crystal cairn]

alright I can bring her there unless anyone else has ideas. I think the radio towers

and have someone at each

[hexed forge]

What are we even expecting?

You paleo call and then a camera with the youtube link falls out of the sky?

[crystal cairn]

who says it’s a youtube link

[hexed forge]

Just saying it because that's what it was in the allo teaser

I found a trail camera with the link on it

Which is how we got the video..

[crystal cairn]

we’ll keep our eyes on the sky then

[hexed forge]

lol

FIGURATIVELY I mean

Unless it actually falls out of the sky who knows lmao

[crystal cairn]

red light on the radio tower starts blinking in morse code be ready to translate that into a link

[hexed forge]

It just doesn't feel right,

The most that Im expecting is to hear a unique ambient track of Intruder call back

ah

You're talking about the radio towers

[crystal cairn]

my thoughts about the video are above but I don’t think the video is hidden. purely because if it is being held because of a failed hunt then HOLY don has patience of steel

but maybe other secret goodies, one could say

I think the radio towers could be influenced by the paleo calls or are influencing yes

[hexed forge]

true lol

[acoustic osprey]

or EXTRAs unlocks...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hunger-games-tribute-death-the-gif-22536907

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-18890916

[acoustic osprey]

i'm just saying

have we gone to C10 yet?

Updates to ranger stations layouts

i presume so, just interested if GREEN is gone now

[hexed forge]

Im going to see the JJK Movie in 40 minutes so I wont be able to hunt

Maybe after Im back butttt not sure.

[hexed forge]

C10?

You mean C14?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

wow how could you mess up the name like that

[acoustic osprey]

wow

maybe i just woke up

https://tenor.com/view/orc-stupid-confused-ace-gif-13476968382900915363

[hexed forge]

YOU USED C10 LAST NIGHT!!

[acoustic osprey]

yay

i was drinking last night for my brothers birthday!!!!!!

[hexed forge]

yay

[crystal cairn]

loreheads getting rusty man this is what I’m talking about!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1445973451511828611/togif.gif

[crystal cairn]

I’m home in about 3 hours, for one of the tests I’ll need to drag someone along. rex is on US4 btw

but I can recruit from sploink too maybe

[hexed forge]

I am NOT going to be growing a rex after the movie

Is there anything else that would be helpful lol

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

numbers

[crystal cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[acoustic osprey]

old ones sadly
but maybe...

maybe

sadly, they still be marketplace
but the validity of marketplace stuff is painful

[lethal moat]

I explored the puts prettt thoroughly with omni, gonna move on to the atrium

[acoustic osprey]

okey

[snow jasper]

mine now thanks

[lethal moat]

Gonna stop by the GUTS entrance in the ravine on the way there

[crystal cairn]

rex paleo calls and the base buzzes to life. lights flashing, scripts start running on computer screens

I’m reading if frequency waves have any effect on stagnant technology

also the damn at water access. let’s talk about that. why is it so big?

the elevation of gateway, does it make sense?

does anyone have a screenshot of gateway atm. vulnona won’t load on my phone

[lethal moat]

I'm thinking power generation

[lethal moat]

Is this the evidence of redwoods you were talking about earlier?

[crystal cairn]

yes

oh did you guys not know about it? been there a while

[lethal moat]

I didn't

But I've also been out of the loop

[crystal cairn]

yep. lorekids getting rusty

[lethal moat]

I don't involve myself with the lore community anymore lol

[crystal cairn]

🤓

also the only lore community I know is the ones who talk occasionally here

everything else is smoke and mirrors. not real

[lethal moat]

Based

[crystal cairn]

besides, it’s no fun for Don if we don’t have our wild ramblings here for him to take guilty pleasure in. that’s just rude

[lethal moat]

Lol

I12 got some changes

Scrapbook of endless wonder and possibility

There's a lot of books in i12 gah dayum

[fast forge]

Can confirm, those are dead coast redwood branches
The fern is a sword fern or deer fern
The small plants are oxalis aka "redwood sorrel" (looks like clover, not technically clover)

[lethal moat]

Neato

[fast forge]

yeah, plants native to my area

[acoustic osprey]

c14 updated!

[pseudo lantern]

waow

[fast forge]

where did you find this, btw?

[acoustic osprey]

found the rnr building (the small one) at c14

[lethal moat]

North of the atrium, where highlands meets the jungle, on the road

[fast forge]

ty

[lethal moat]

K15 has an interesting change, it's seperated into 2 different sections by a short road now

[acoustic osprey]

is that the layout separated by a bridge

[lethal moat]

No, that's still there, they also added a small cabin with a control panel up by the radio tower

[acoustic osprey]

oh nice

i'll have a look in a bit, i believe thats the same as the one at C14

[merry zodiac]

was that you Rumple?

I just met a random raptor at K15 :))

[lethal moat]

Ayyyy

Lil galli man lol

[crystal cairn]

what server you guys on? home soon

[lethal moat]

Also, another toolbox on the roof as a part of the model for one of the buildings

[merry zodiac]

AU2 now

[crystal cairn]

cutie box

okay I’ll hope on AU2 as well

gonna be checking pits and docks

[acoustic osprey]

done docks myself

only thing really new is that the rubbish huts are fixed

[lethal moat]

You check the radio towers near there as well?

[acoustic osprey]

don't think so

[lethal moat]

I'll head up the beach from k15 and check them out

[acoustic osprey]

coolio

I12 has the small RnR place
but no extra radio tower building next to it

[crystal cairn]

alright I’ll do pits and radio tower

the one that’s there

[lethal moat]

I checked that, I didn't see anything different, but worth checking

We should also check GUTS entrances, follow roads, and stop by d10 and c 14

[acoustic osprey]

c14 done

d10 is poofed from HT like h6

[lethal moat]

Nothing on the island that's connected via sandbars

[pseudo lantern]

hi

NOOO

[crystal cairn]

let me know if anyone else has ideas for areas to use the paleo call

[lethal moat]

The viewing area at east pond is still the same

The containers on the shore look the same

[fast forge]

I've been around the entire dome, didn't see anything new
I still want to try to check the GUTS entrance below the dome, down in the swamp

[twilit jewel]

Does anyone have a theory what the injections mean?

[acoustic osprey]

injection into environment, basically

[fast forge]

New animals added to the artificial ecosystem, probably brought in by boat

[lethal moat]

I didn't check any of the swamp stuff, heading to the volcano area now

[twilit jewel]

I basically thought the same. I was thinking they were variations of the animal added into the environment, and that they injected versions until AE found a suitable variant that could survive in the environment.

[crystal cairn]

what if

the sounds heard in the intruder video wasn't a rex

also hopping in finally

[acoustic osprey]

nah definitely not

[acoustic osprey]

because of this^

[knotty locust]

how long have the pipes that go into swamp been there

I feel like I haven’t seen them in person before

[acoustic osprey]

a wee while now

[fast forge]

they were added back in trike HT

or thereabouts

[knotty locust]

figured, I’ve seen images of them

I was gonna walk on top of them with my maia but I had a migration zone to get to

[crystal cairn]

is this legible at all

[tropic saddle]

I see the words "ancient screening"

[knotty locust]

can’t wait for actual horror videos with this kind of design

[crystal cairn]

if it hasn't been deciphered I can try

[tropic saddle]

it should be possible most of the words are there just missing a couple letters that are corrupted or something

[fast forge]

I think it's glitched there, with the green words overlayed on top of the blue.

[acoustic osprey]

this is why we have the funny document area in lore cord rah!!!!

[tropic saddle]

ahhhh

[lethal moat]

Found out the volcano cave has been extended significantly, not sure how new that is

Haven't explored all of it yet, but it has multiple entrances

[acoustic osprey]

i think might be old, i remember it being fairly long

[eager bloom]

I wish there was a special task force ment to captured some of the dinos

[crystal cairn]

the genetic (?) of the candid. The genetic (?) of the candidate (?) are being (?) and analyze
potential mutation (??) through cooperative (?) sequencing and variant screenings
a potential atavistic reactive potential (?) atavistic reactivation is (???) in the following (?)

oh okay

lmao

[lethal moat]

I've used all my stam and haven't explored all of it

[eager bloom]

Answer is

yes

[lethal moat]

And there's a lot of drinking sources in there now

[acoustic osprey]

my version of it @crystal cairn ^^

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[crystal cairn]

gonna be on AU 2 pt I gotta check something with the towers. gonna grow a bit while eating my dinner irl

[fast forge]

They are just saying that they are mapping the genes that caused this mutation. They think it's an atavistic mutation, which is an ancestral trait returning, but they don't know how it ties into the greater genome or the animal's placement in the food web

[lethal moat]

Yeah, there's 2 ground entrances now and several pools within the cave

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-boys-back-gif-25205948

[fast forge]

ooh

[hexed forge]

I am back from le movie

Did we find anything yet

[lethal moat]

Beeg cave

[hexed forge]

The volcano cave isn't new

Especially if its the one with water

[fast forge]

it's had two entrances and multiple water sources for a while now

[lethal moat]

This is old? Damn

[hexed forge]

yea

[lethal moat]

Sad

[fast forge]

I've gone through there with a juvie deino lol

it didn't end well

[hexed forge]

sooo nothing

[lethal moat]

A couple of the ranger stations have some changes, but that was listed in the changelog

[hexed forge]

The big building shown in the devblog is in K15 now, watching from isaac's stream

Nothing special inside tho, from what I see right now

[acoustic osprey]

so k15 has big rnr
c14 has small rnr and also i12 small rnr

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/lEHErFtz94WR3d5AC?invite=cr-MSw1cW4sNDg5NTI2MDY1&v=0

@fast forge is that the sound you've heard before? Prior to this patch

(coming directional on the right/outside of the building)

[crystal cairn]

I'm at the trailcam spot and hear a paleo call next to me on AU2

immersed af rn

[acoustic osprey]

which spot?

[acoustic osprey]

ahh

[crystal cairn]

sitting here on a tree while I eat dinner

[pine rose]

@acoustic osprey https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/lEHNuyQbt9LRidjGj?invite=cr-MSxJUVksNDg5NTI2MDY1&v=0

[crystal cairn]

I appreciate our AU2 lore accurate intruder

will find him on pt and 2 call him

if y'all on AU2 still that is

[fast forge]

No, the sound I heard before was a very simple singular bass rumble, much quieter too

That one is just rex infrasound call

[hexed forge]

yeah we were having a whole debate on whether its a distant trike call or a paleo rex call lol

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

now we must wonder
what the sound might be