isle-lore-theories

[tawdry lily]

Tldr us

[dusk pier]

This needs to be lore as a joke

Like a random paper on a desk talking about flamingos killing a rex

[ionic fog]

The Humble Troodon pack:

[dusk pier]

Pink troodons

A rare mutation

[signal anchor]

[hexed forge]

A taco that I was chasing led me into a new GUTS thing lmfao

It is under the Southeastern Semi-Aquatic thing

https://tenor.com/view/hashira-infinity-castle-entrance-gif-10919694657991128399

Connects to the... I forgot what its called

[quartz sundial]

truly an inciting incident

[hexed forge]

indeed

[muted reef]

Still waiting on monorails

Are they even coming anymore? Map changed a lot

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-mike-mclusky-mayor-of-kingstown-idk-no-idea-gif-3982348999908321247

[muted reef]

South island gone, west gone, north gone...I still hold hope but the monorail route will probably be very different from what we saw

[muted reef]

This signifies yes?

I'll take it as a yes

[hexed forge]

Definitely very different

[muted reef]

Well as long as we get one that's pretty frickin rad

[acoustic osprey]

Oh this is the connection for the submerged DTA it seems

[hexed forge]

yes

[low scarab]

Map changes and human structures soon

[acoustic osprey]

Yes but I doubt monorail...

[low scarab]

One day

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully

And GUTS

[low scarab]

guts is a sad case

[fast forge]

Still a cool thought

[lethal moat]

I like it

[sonic vale]

does that clip don showed on stream have any lore significance

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[sonic vale]

there was the stego running away

like the recent one. quite recent

twas a video clip.

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/YeLfWrS8J14

Yep, shows change in mutations, gives us 3 more named characters, and shows genes that were changed

[sonic vale]

i hope the salt mutation thing will actually exist

that was kinda neat

[muted reef]

?

[sonic vale]

stegosaurus who eat salt pink

[muted reef]

Doubt monorail ever or soon?

[sonic vale]

i thought that’s what it tried to say

[muted reef]

What about it?

The stego being pink?

I hope paleo rex calls slightly shake your screen but I doubt it

[hexed forge]

No

Eating Salt does not turn you pink,

The stego was named SALT because it eats Salt more than other stegos, it patrols around salt licks, etc.

And in the end it all comes down to a QA member's Pink Stego Skin and their love for salt

[sonic vale]

can stego actually be that color in game?

never seen a damned pink stego, and diet can affect colors in animals

[hexed forge]

Probably, Im not sure

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

It doesn't really say how it became that colour

So it could be because of it eating the salt rocks

[hexed forge]

Why…

[acoustic osprey]

I mean it is like cannibalism

It is not implausible

[hexed forge]

It literally does not even mention its skin,

There is no correlation to the salt, it’s literally just a skin

[acoustic osprey]

^

Because it is not a video on SALT

So there is no need to say how or why

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[hexed forge]

If this was the case there would be no need to describe/mention its historic migration patterns.

If its skin was caused by the salt then it would genuinely need a few extra words to confirm it .

Also I’m like 80% sure you can make a stego purplish pink in game

[acoustic osprey]

Why would you need to confirm it?

[hexed forge]

Why would you need to mention the Stegos migration pattern?

[acoustic osprey]

The point of describing the migration pattern is to say it does this behaviour while under pressure / stress

Which was then disrupted because of the infrasound call

There is no need to mention that it is pink because of such

When the point of it is to say

'X creature always does Y even in stressed situations, until Z happened'

this is described further in the second paragraph of the actual slide as well

[hexed forge]

“It sprints away because it was under pressure etc etc”
There

You could say that without mentioning its entire backstory for its naming and migratory path.

Including its migratory history or discluding it won’t change anything towards the main idea of the report.

It’s redundant extra information that was only mentioned because it’s ‘special’ (QA Member funny moment thingy)

Why were the Dibbles migration path not mentioned? Were they migrating from east to west, north to south? What’s their usual route?

Point is it’s equally redundant as mentioning the reasoning for its skin color. So why wouldn’t the Skin color be mentioned with it?

(And also I’m still 80% sure you can make this skin in game, unless QA Members have access to much more colors)

[acoustic osprey]

In terms of what was actually written on the slide, if you remove the first sentence
It doesn't work

But what you've written
At that point you're critiquing on why they should have had the whole slide at that point

Without describing what it was doing
The whole point of the slide is removed

If you want a more straight to the point as quick as you can type slide
You could've easily, then, had one slide saying Dakota tribe ran, Salt ran.

Because you're removing the idea of the slide
Which is showcasing a SYNTH and describing its norm and why it isn't doing the norm

It is not redundant for the point of describing what is shown
Unless you want to argue it inflated the time length of the whole report. Therefore the only thing really necessary is the final transcript about rex making infrasound

Add the reason why it has salt skin is redundant though, yes.

Because the words written, especially the first sentence, is necessary for the whole slide itself

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-versus-vs-alien-monster-vs-alien-gif-16037253809360562033

[fast forge]

it's a reference to a specific player who plays as a salt-pink stego, and likes the salt licks

[acoustic osprey]

You're practically asking for the most effectively written straight to the point streamlined style of written if Dondi wrote the report to your example

That would mean that most of the slides could've easily just became just one whole slide

[hexed forge]

Isaac I have no clue what rabbit hole you just went down on, something about first sentence and purpose of slide, etc WHAT

To try and break my point down into something short,

The Stego got special treatment because it’s a funny community Easter egg reference.

Its background information is completely redundant to the main idea around the report. Or at least, it’s extremely inconsistent

If you go down into the migratory history of specifically that stego why at that point not go down into the migratory information of the Diablo pair? That’s equally as important as the stego. They experienced the same behavior as the Stego yet they get very little.

Iirc there was a juvenile with the Stego, no mention of that on any slide right?

Now that we mention it, the video is a bit inconsistent. Mention SALT but not the other Stego and its offspring? Yet at the same time they mention the two Dibbles, however very little on those two.

However I haven’t rewatched the video in a bit so I may be extremely wrong, in fact as I’m writing this I may be wrong on the two other stegos getting no info. Apologies

Gulp

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-seriously-wow-omg-gif-3046552972864491436

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

I'll have to voice memo it then

[hexed forge]

no

NOOOO

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-snake-scream-big-boss-scream-screaming-in-pain-metal-gear-solid-scream-venom-snake-screaming-gif-878132242471141616

[acoustic osprey]

side tracking now

but with this

Now that we mention it, the video is a bit inconsistent. Mention SALT but not the other Stego and its offspring? Yet at the same time they mention the two Dibbles, however very little on those two.

it could be them just wanting to highlight SYNTHs?
it is a bit weird

i suppose they're non-SYNTHs / natural born, if anything

likely why the Dibbles were only mentioned as Dibbles as well

especially since DAKOTA wasn't even on screen, yet still named

it's probably a hierarchical 'more important' aspect
knowing SYNTHs have the most unique / interesting things happen with them

thus more important to name and identify

[hexed forge]

Special treatment 😔

[acoustic osprey]

the SYNTH treatment

[acoustic osprey]

oh i also got an AI transcript as well
for the funnies

[hexed forge]

lol

[sonic vale]

are synths the ones made in a lab

not nested in

i wanna learn all the lore but this is too much going on

[lethal moat]

They're the replicator ones

[vocal tundra]

Interesting

So like synthesized eggs in a lab like jp

[lethal moat]

We aren't sure how they're injected into the ecosystem or what all happens, but we've seen growth vats

[tawdry lily]

Back in the day Don mentioned aerial drops in cages with parachutes, don't know if that was scraped or if it is still a thing

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[sonic rampart]

@hallow echo No trolling

[hallow echo]

gotcha comrade

please define trolling so i wouldn't get banned

[tawdry lily]

Or maybe they just come from underground like the jurassic park goat. But we can't see it because they are in game spawns and that would cause problems gameplay wise like spawn camping.

But if they inject adults then it's probably something like shipping containers or something.

[lethal moat]

I like the idea of amphibious vehicles with cages pulling up to the beach and opening up, kind of like how they do large animals like rhinos or tigers with trucks

[tawdry lily]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[lethal moat]

https://youtube.com/shorts/BKSRa9wSooc?si=lw-boPuTzdH97hvE

[tawdry lily]

Yeah, except with the dinos it's probably something that stays less exposed to their rage after being released, to minimize material damage, injuries and costs.

[spiral wasp]

SCP:1507 lol

[hexed forge]

no thanks <@&933486433342222376>

[formal mural]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/745273228255297556/876759585539645500/image0-2.gif

[gaunt dawn]

Where am i

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/snowwisp-tartarus-gif-12628398780836365999

[gaunt dawn]

Woag

[grand sigil]

im going to infiltrate colossal biosciences to release woolly mice into the world

[acoustic osprey]

i see

[muted reef]

As I am now testing it is impossible to make the salt stego

Extremely impossible

There are no colors for its back that even get close to pink

[acoustic osprey]

I see

[muted reef]

In game activities altering your skin would be a cool idea

[river marsh]

or just unlocking different colors

like eating enough salt unlocks pink on stego

[muted reef]

Maybe doing a bunch of things as a dinosaur and then entombing as that dinosaur permanently unlocks a color for that dinosaur

[last basalt]

guy what the best server to grow rex rn ?

[rigid seal]

are servers down or is hordetest over RN all i see is qa na 1 mastershipping

[acoustic osprey]

turning back on likely
also lore theories!!

[rigid seal]

you enjoying the new ui layout it looks pretty cool ive chosen fallout green as i call it

[acoustic osprey]

trying it now once i download !

[rigid seal]

all this right before i start spending time in JWE3 devs cooked deffinatley

[acoustic osprey]

exactly lol

[rigid seal]

also you gonna get evolution 3 they brought back the random island generator

[acoustic osprey]

I SAW!!! I cannot wait
i will be getting

[rigid seal]

Nice i look forward too your videos on it 😄 is allo this patch yet or is it just more rex improvements

[acoustic osprey]

no allo yet!

[rigid seal]

okay cool 😄 rex improvements are better than nothin maybe i can finally reach adult

[fast forge]

new diets are in

[rigid seal]

just logged in 😄

this UI is much easier too understand 😄

[acoustic osprey]

ENTOMB

[acoustic osprey]

I know this is showing something i made, so thus it might seem i am biased (I always am!!)

but i kinda wish / hope we get more CRT-like visual flair to the screen

bit of a bummer,
I doubt we'll see much or many changes to the updated main menu

but yeah, one can hope

bit 50/50 though, personally

shame there is no lore with this new UI, at least for now

if anyone is/can get back on, should maybe head over to GW_F12 and see if maybe something was left behind. Probably not though
but maybe!

[tranquil flume]

Makes me think of a dial up bulletin board system

[dusk pier]

🦩 "DONT MOVE"

[robust ether]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-8730129681245327268

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-kang-dae-ho-squid-game-afraid-terrified-gif-965751703766080959

[ionic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-smiling-smile-happy-smiling-dog-gif-466450360347810840

[snow jasper]

eugh, it makes me vomit in my mouth

The old designs were not only better, but they also made sense, and I know we're meant to get new assimilable nutrients (Or so thats how I understood Dondi)

Whether or not it will get used in Lore or in general Gameplay, who knows??

[ornate comet]

Cannibal mutation

[fast forge]

I like all of the new UI stuff

[ornate comet]

Rare hacker appearance in the lore channel

Oh wait

A new ht patch is here

Didn’t even notice that’s what you guys were talking about lmao

[snow jasper]

Everything but the symbols are great

beta alpha gamma 👎

[agile cipher]

the tab menu is way too big, it was so neat and compact before, i dont understand why it needs to take up the whole screen now

also, now u need to scroll to find your full diet list and the mutations and nest tab are further away from the center of the screen, its so unnecessary and annoyingly inconvenient

[snow jasper]

Thats work in progress so its understandable, they clarified it in the patchnotes. Im just not happy with the nutrient symbols because the old ones reflected the molecular structure of the corresponding nutrient.

[agile cipher]

sure, but it doesnt exactly fill me with optimism

[snow jasper]

Hordetest is for testing

[icy onyx]

Diablo ai is on or no

I see gali ai

[fast forge]

Maybe try #isle-discussion, this channel is for lore stuff

[ionic sable]

I wander around the various channels sometimes.

[low scarab]

UI!

It’s here!

[hexed forge]

I dont like the dirty screen effect over the UI

ew

ehwg

Seems buggy

[tranquil flume]

(It’s a wip)

[river marsh]

Because it is. Was said in the announcements

[crisp vector]

same

[hexed forge]

oh yeahhh lets drag this hordetest out until December

[river marsh]

I mean my personal theory is this is the big one for the end of the year, but this isnt the right place for this convo anyways: #isle-discussion

[hexed forge]

Wonder what happened to the smaller more frequent updates rather than a big one every 6-8 months that you're referring to...

Anyway @acoustic osprey did you check GW_F12 in your stream last night? (If theres any new lore stuff.. doubt it but still...)
Ima go check it out anyway ig

[ornate comet]

wipe it off then

[hexed forge]

thanks

[ornate comet]

np man

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kpop-triples-yubin-wipe-clean-gif-15090484712415501151

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/karate-kid-wax-on-wax-off-mr-miyagi-gif-20415895

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-leonardo-di-caprio-prevalent-mind-snowflake-sad-gif-12171235

[slate vigil]

why server is mega lag

[frozen totem]

because this isn't #isle-discussion

[formal mural]

leo doesnt look alright

[acoustic osprey]

agreed
not sure why they released it in this state to be fair

not a big fan of people saying "because it is a work in progress" and etc
It does not feel finished — HT is not/shouldn't be for things that aren't finished

of course, this was the problem i was scared about but knew was going to happen

[hexed forge]

thank you

[acoustic osprey]

that we were gonna get UI in chunks in HT

HOPEFULLY just this HT

[hexed forge]

Saying "just this HT" does not make me feel better 😔

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1426130831872757792/togif.gif

better then being dragged outside of HT for more then a year

genuinely, i would've preferred UI being in a fully finished state to be put into the game
and waiting for it to be put out, however extra long that would've been

but, oh well

an isle

[hexed forge]

agreed

[acoustic osprey]

i think the biggest disappointment as a loreian

is that lack of lore, despite the UI being more 'inline with lore"

(alongside no really unique additions to UI, being being able to select the greek letters and see which food is what nutrient letter)

[hexed forge]

Genuinely don't know why they put more stuff on their plate to polish,

Now they have to work on polishing the UI WITH Rex and Elders to put on Evrima... Making HT even longer... Elders were already a huge deal.. 😔

[lethal moat]

Tutorial

[hexed forge]

Not even the character selection screen was changed 😔

[acoustic osprey]

if only we actually got one in it

[hexed forge]

Is this actually in or not

When I played Ptera a few hours ago I didnt get any hints

[acoustic osprey]

just an unusable button

[lethal moat]

Button is, but it’s blurred iut

[hexed forge]

thanks the isle

[acoustic osprey]

i just wish we got what we saw last year

i.e. the VFX screens and the toast notifs (like in legacy)

[hexed forge]

Also when loading up the game there isn't even any cool loading screen.. it just.. pops up.. 😭
Its so depressing to me

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully they're planned to be added and not 'too busy to work on it'

[acoustic osprey]

this is the part where i say WIP though
it's just the annoyance of doing a staggered release

hopefully it wont stay like this

[hexed forge]

Too busy to work on it yet continue to add more and more on the Hordetesting to-do list

[acoustic osprey]

at this point, Hordetesting IS Evrima. Just without unofficials!
i just wish HTs were kept to doing what it was supposed to be for — stress testing just before update
or just EVRIMA being the 'developmetal' BETA test branch

[hexed forge]

WHYYYY DO STAGGERED RELEJsnkjahfjhwdw

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/flula-borg-gif-12353876233544985718

[hexed forge]

we live in an isle

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

i understand staggered for a mechanically complex mechanic or dinosaur/playable

but for UI, it is a bit painful to watch
oh well

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gmail-pibble-mulch-frenchie-gif-15443669033024525467

[fast forge]

they're not done yet

[hexed forge]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1427781326425034903

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-short-what-he-said-exactly-gif-21062808

[fast forge]

eh it's fine to me

Development is on a timeline, I get it

In this case I think it's probably better to deliver something incomplete than not at all

It's like being mad that the fences were messy for a bit

[hexed forge]

Deserved Anger

[fast forge]

They are good now

[fast forge]

game didn't look perfect for a few months?

idk I grew up in an era where games frequently looked awful, I don't have high expectations

[hexed forge]

Yup
It didn't

It's not like it was an issue that is incredibly difficult to fix.

It's literally an aftermath of someone rushing someone implementing a fence and then just not bothering to polish it

[acoustic osprey]

(And most games weren't live service)

[fast forge]

but the fences moved after that point any way, so why polish something that may not even be permanent

[hexed forge]

No?

They stayed in the same place

[fast forge]

I'm not gonna argue this point

[hexed forge]

You literally just said that they were moved

[fast forge]

Even if I'm wrong, it doesn't change my point

It was temporary
That's how they do development
We can wish it was different, but it isn't

With everything else going on in the world, the fence placement in my dinosaur video game is not high priority, sorry to say

How are you still typing

not trying to be rude, but it's been like 10 minutes

[hexed forge]

"Why implement something properly into the game if it might change in an unknown future"

Is a really dumb and lazy point,

Especially in a situation where the fence was never changed after, at least not right now. Your statement can also be reversed, for example when West Access was polished, only for it to be removed a couple updates later. AKA Polish -- > Removed later, contrary to, Unpolished --> Not removed in the future.

But either way, if your statement was used as a basis for the game's entire development,

Then we'd have 900000000 unfinished half-finished things in this game,

The game is literally known for removing/changing things constantly, yet in many of those situations the previous version **still released polished. **
Most known example being Nightvision.. or literally the entire existence of Spiro/LITERALLY EVERY OTHER MAP IN ISLE'S HISTORY.

It's all about presentation, presenting your early access game in a good way. And when something is released unpolished, it's just painful to just ignore that and say "yup, it'll get fixed in a few months-to a year!! Who cares. Game still functions and my dinosaurs are still eating and drinking wahh wahh. "

And Im mainly pointing out small things that are extremely easy to fix or releasing something that is at an extreme WIP instead of a proper state that is meant to make you satisfied with the amount of hype it received.

[hexed forge]

Im on my phone

[fast forge]

But my entire point is that, we know how they do things, we know they do everything you stated here

So why do you expect more?

[acoustic osprey]

same thing when i was talking about the intruder video to him yesterday lol

[acoustic osprey]

weren't some fences moved though

[fast forge]

I try to see the world for what it is, and take it from there

[hexed forge]

Because it really hurts to see things come into the game in an extremely poor state

[acoustic osprey]

the biggest issue for me is not the buggy nature of the UI
Its why it has to be dripfed / staggered

as this isn't the whole UI we've seen from last year
if anything, it is missing bits that were shown off

[hexed forge]

No,
The fence we're talking about is in it's exact same spot.

The only fences that were moved are the- actually no nothing was moved

[acoustic osprey]

are you sure? I am pretty sure there were some moved fences

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

especially near the east lake area
south of it i think

[hexed forge]

still there

(Hordetest map)

I could go and check in replay if you'd like

[acoustic osprey]

i don't mean in this update

[fast forge]

But the thing is, any given update has like 20-30 things added, right?

What are the chances that all of those things line up to be super polished at the same time, ready for update?

They've got so many things going on, some will necessarily be unfinished when others are finished and ready to release

[hexed forge]

then what!!!

[acoustic osprey]

i mean in the past / overall
if some fences have been moved

[hexed forge]

The eastern fences that we've spoke about were in the exact same spot since they were added

[fast forge]

They could delay things until everything in an update is all ready, but that slows down development (which the players LOVE) and probably messes with internal development timelines

[acoustic osprey]

(why put it in if unfinished, especially something that is currently seeming to be a re-facading)

[acoustic osprey]

which is why they've said in the past that they want to release dinos whenever the dino is ready

which... has seemingly failed, from what we've seen

[fast forge]

because this game is a rolling ball

they can't stop the rolling to fix one thing, or others will suffer

[acoustic osprey]

that doesn't mean you can't delay the UI update for once it is more finished

[hexed forge]

Now heres the problem,

They can't keep the same update mindset.

"Yeah guys so we're doing x with the way we release updates"

And then it just turns out to be completely different, I understand the thing with 5.6 delaying Rex to the point of Elders.

But WHY ADD UI ONTOP OF REX AND ELDERS

[hexed forge]

Yes they can

[fast forge]

Because they release by builds

They have their internal version that they push to hordetest

They cannot go back through that version and tweak forty things because that will cause more bugs

[hexed forge]

They can very much stop the rolling ball and work on polishing x and then move onto the next.

Not talking about dinosaur animation development,

Like actually polishing them in Hordetest

[fast forge]

If every feature was released individually, and we had sixty updates a month, but that's not how programming works

It's all gotta come in batches

Should they go in and try to undo their work on the UI just so we don't see it in an unfinished state? What if that causes worse bugs?

[acoustic osprey]

Why put UI in a build if not ready then?

[fast forge]

because that's how they work on it

that's how this works

[acoustic osprey]

The solution is to not put something in a build until the concept and design is finished

[acoustic osprey]

No?

[fast forge]

they can't have like eight different builds of the game, each for different mechanic work, and then mash them together

[acoustic osprey]

That would mean they do that for every RnD system that might test out

[fast forge]

They have the dev build for working on things, like a big public workspace

[hexed forge]

UI has not been forced onto hordetest because of their development speed,

They put it in

To break it down in your example,

The rolling snow ball does automatically pick up the UI build because they started working on it.

The rolling snow ball is stopped and the UI build is put into that snow ball manually

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
But not for everything

They can still test things out without needing to put it into the main dev build

[fast forge]

I don't think you understood me

[acoustic osprey]

Hence why separate builds exist in developmental games

Internal buildings, shipping builds, QA builds

There isn't one build before entering the public

[hexed forge]

The UI has been on their Dev Builds for multiple months, (Potentially over half a year maybe? I'll have to check the devblogs)
They have several dev builds,

Not everything from the dev build goes onto Hordetest with no going back

Its not a rolling snow ball that picks up everything that Filipe puts his hands on

[fast forge]

Yes and it's like a production line

But there aren't like 8 QA builds each testing a different mechanic, there is one (maybe a few)

Whatever
I don't know, I'm not a game dev
I can only hope that they know what they are doing

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
Typically one or a small few per area

A UX build is not unordinary so they can actually test it in engine without having to worry about unoptimised internal builds

[fast forge]

I'm just so damn tired of criticisms of development management from people who don't know anything more about game design or management than I do

We don't know what their internal processes are like

We just have to deal with the reality of what we see

[acoustic osprey]

Agreed

[fast forge]

You can be upset by what you see.
I try to recognize that I'm not a game dev, I don't really know how this stuff works. So I'm just patient

[acoustic osprey]

But i believe people can and should critique aspects

Even if they do not understand on a whole

[hexed forge]

It is true I dont know anything about how they develop things,

However I am allowed to be angry at the damn render distance bug with the radio tower that they acknowledged since pre-Docks release... (Still isn't fixed)

[fast forge]

I'm just so tired of all the negativity

Nothing is good enough for the isle community, I swear

[acoustic osprey]

Is it negative to be critical?

[acoustic osprey]

This is just life though

I don't think the world has enough of the material fascination

Never has enough, i suppose

[fast forge]

Not even you guys, but the community as a whole is so whiny sometimes

Sometimes I just wanna slap people and be like "It's just a game"

Chill out, have some fun

Get some whimsy in your life

(once again, not you guys)

[acoustic osprey]

I think there is still a level of conforming and doomering
Which should be achieved for all

Every game dev should be held accountable for low quality production and content
And all consumers should understand nothing is perfect

[hexed forge]

but but

the fence

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks cerato

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/man-on-knees-screaming-no-ymiyoms-gif-1715427374379541309

The fences must be perfect or else the isle is over!!

And the radio tower bugs ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[fast forge]

Like hell, we are getting the new UI, I wanna be excited for that

[hexed forge]

Would I be a doomer if I say that this extreme WIP version of it ruined my hype?

[acoustic osprey]

My hope is that they don't get lazy though with it
I do hope that it is finished by the end of ht

[hexed forge]

You're saying that as if there's a determined endline for a Hordetest's lifetime

[acoustic osprey]

Any method of staggered release would've

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

Whenever it is done

[hexed forge]

thanks

hordetest until 2026 babyyy

[acoustic osprey]

But it is worse for us, i do believe

We've been hyping it is, assuming lore would be entangled within the new ui

Like the ui overhaul of the past in Legacy

[hexed forge]

yippee

[acoustic osprey]

Such is a fault of our own

[hexed forge]

I think you should put the Rex video up on the lore doc and feed the AI information

[hexed forge]

Are these things new?

On the path leading down to the Water Access Structure

[muted reef]

Reskinned UI 🥀

We were the most hyped too

[acoustic osprey]

It should have it, the AI

[acoustic osprey]

Black screen

[acoustic osprey]

Aren't we always

[cerulean flax]

Whats new lore people

[vocal tundra]

Yeah what new lore

[lethal moat]

We had the rex trail cam recently

[civic pollen]

salt stego salt stego

[acoustic osprey]

^

Good vid
And good questions and theories coming from it

Just needs some tweaks before published honestly

[rigid seal]

any idea why ive stopped growing when i have afull diet

[lethal moat]

Adult is at 75% now

[rigid seal]

oh it wont let me entomb says im not old enough

thanks rumple didnt realise that changed

i hope juvie rexes know that screaming isnt gonna help em survive

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder what may happen if you Paleo Call at F12

Probably nothing
but who knows

maybe something cool might happen currently or in the future

[vocal tundra]

F12 is steam screenshot

Idk if you’ll just take a sc or do smth

[acoustic osprey]

GW_F12

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1414259775809654898/1427893741972095057/ezgif-847ba4a10cf8cc.gif

[vocal tundra]

I don’t understand

[acoustic osprey]

its a location

on gateway

[vocal tundra]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[acoustic osprey]

Don, if you read this, I really need all the old Isle Ambient Tracks
WAV/FLAC or mp3

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-meme-i-need-it-i-don’t-need-it-i-definitely-don’t-need-it-thirsty-gif-17101453146721253330

[acoustic osprey]

apparently this is supposed to be VERY big

[hexed forge]

Is that something related to GUTS or a massive structure on the surface?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe this is an 'external' building

as he said this

Not sure, we are in the process of making very large and specific exterior buildings.
Something for humans, and dinos of course to properly explore.

[hexed forge]

hm

Cool

[knotty locust]

that circular part looks familiar

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

feels like that big fan in one of the GUTS Hubs area

[knotty locust]

wheres that concept of the tree busting through the roof

you know the one, the one every isletuber in 2018 used for lore video thumbnails

[knotty locust]

oh yes

[acoustic osprey]

wouldn't be surprised if it was a dome roof section

would be pretty cool

i can see that

[knotty locust]

just noticed the little compies way down the bottom of the image

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[ornate comet]

Why am I just now realizing that that tree is basically the arborburst

Maybe

Idk I’m half asleep

[lethal moat]

[cerulean flax]

Which one is that

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/YeLfWrS8J14

[cerulean flax]

Oh i thought there's was a new one is this the salt stego video

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[snow jasper]

omg what

its literally an arbourburst tree

nevermind

[snow jasper]

https://youtu.be/pNJbbshy500?t=456

🤔

I wonder if you'll be able to eat from these kinds of the plants

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t advise it

"some of them will eat you, some of them are a lot less merciful than that"

"some of them will melt you. some will take parts of you away that you didnt even know you had. and some will irreperably change you in ways you never thought possible"

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-really-think-you-can-stop-me-nolan-grayson-omni-man-invincible-you-cant-stop-me-gif-21376184

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explosion-sad-explode-gif-15295996165959499721

[woven trench]

Why are the trees liberating themselves from their own bodies

[river marsh]

I wonder if hyperendocrin or tissoplastic sheds its old tissues like the arborburst...possibly tissoplastic to explain the regeneration?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/severance-milchick-suit-grow-plants-gif-14477013228236737334

[vocal tundra]

whom is speaking jive in the beginning of the video

[lethal moat]

My buddies I was in vc with

[lethal moat]

Be a lot cooler if it did

[river marsh]

It would be... could still happen. Def a wait and see

Imagine "killing" a tissoplastic and eating from the old body only to see its chest cavity wiggle and explode as a smaller version gets out and escapes because the player had collected enough biomass to start a second life but not complete it fully so they didnt get to shed their skin as a full adult

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/llhlg-alien-xenomorph-born-baby-gif-19584636

[woven trench]

Strains are gonna be something else

I can see it now…strain megapacks

[lethal moat]

Neuro carno, hyper giga, tisso rex

[vocal tundra]

thatll just be suicide

theyll kill one another or starve

[lethal moat]

I can see the hyper killing the others, but we don’t know a ton

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/servoskull-gif-22081450

[fast forge]

also plants that de-age you?

[ornate comet]

I’m gonna hold out in my heart for the flooded visitor center to one day be real

[lethal moat]

🙏

[fast forge]

I do hope it's something we'll get

it's such a fun concept

[ornate comet]

Def gonna be a cool spot to chill as semi aquatics

I wonder how deep the water would go. Imagine a Beipi swimming along flooded corridors and hallways

Exposed live wires in the water in some places perhaps

[vocal tundra]

Yeah I think you’d be dead if that’s the case

[ornate comet]

It would be a hazard

[stiff lintel]

Death by electrocution

[acoustic osprey]

yeah it is very close

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/no-duh-why-didnt-i-think-of-that-donald-kimball-gif-14910705

[muted reef]

This is how we're getting strains

[lethal moat]

Strain plants, woo!

[muted reef]

I wonder if elders+entombing+strain plants and environmental interaction is the true way to get strains

[lethal moat]

That’d be sick

[muted reef]

At some point when you're beyond entombing and mutiliation you become something more

[acoustic osprey]

you? or the being that is beyond broken, a mere imitation of the idea that is you?

[muted reef]

it becomes something more

[lethal moat]

You are always you, just not the same you you were a moment ago

[acoustic osprey]

i like to believe you are only you because of what you have experienced
changed that timeline, and it is no longer me — what I am.

[acoustic osprey]

more or less, mayhaps

[acoustic osprey]

i would not be surprised

at least, a mix or all of those or a bit more

i don't know how you could do it really otherwise
without being very obscure

[muted reef]

If it's pure entombs that would suck

I bet what mutations you pick plays a role too

[lethal moat]

Which is to say, what is you can change

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[spark gull]

is the rubberbanding on the HT still bad

[muted reef]

Wrong channel but not really as bad

[lethal moat]

Every now and again I'll come back to the idea of some rival company's spec ops or similar being sent to an island without properly being informed on what's there, only that it's been evacuated and is uninhabited, and coming across horrible horrible situations like Mendy's, gen 1, strains, etc, and just not achieving what they set out to steal at all, and that could be a fun documentary style found footage series to make once the game is a bit more fleshed out.

30 minutes in, Leonard gets ripped to pieces by a plant growing along the tunnel wall, but you know Apollo Engineering is involved in agriculture, so although it makes sense there'd be modified plants, there's no why you could have predicted what happened

You get to the section you're supposed to be stealing data from only to discover it's been entirely consumed by a metallivore, and now you have to explore the entire lab to make this mission at all worth it

[visual timber]

“THAT THING ATE LEONARD, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH AGRICULTURE?!!!”

[lethal moat]

Plant

[patent ginkgo]

plants

[acoustic osprey]

I've been cataloguing Isle Music as much as i can from Anthony's work to Patrick Maney
forgive my delay in the isle lore communication 😔 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

feels almost a bit like the vibe of the old AE File videos and similar non-affiliated work on YT
It's definitely always been a common idea / trope, within the non-lore community, that 'oh merc peoples are dropping into foreign and unfamiliar lands'
not that that is bad or anything!

it definitely would be interesting to explore such (in actual lore or just fan stuff) ONCE The Isle Worldbuilding is pretty much as complete as you can get
... *of course, in the long long future... * but still!
especially something made by someone who knows about lore or has someone to commune about the most 'accurate isle lore' for such a project

its fun how you can get many different types of stories depending where you land your finger on the 'timeline'

[low scarab]

Plant hype

[acoustic osprey]

cook the plant

[slate current]

Soooooo, what if every update where a new dino comes out are just extra specimens that are released from the facility when the company is done experimenting.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/slow-turn-black-klansman-adam-driver-awkward-silence-slow-awkward-turn-gif-6271096069093594952

i don't think i understand

[ornate comet]

I like dinosaurs

[slate current]

Like, the company does experiments on a dinosaur species, when they’re done, they out to have a bunch of extra unaltered dinosaurs. Soooooo, they just release them on the island to research how they would fair in the wild

[signal anchor]

I think they mean the company releases "unmodified" dinos on the island.. Even though i think every dinosaur is exactly that

[river marsh]

Thats how replication works ish. Augustus was entombed and not let out with the rest. His genetics were used as the baseline for all Herreras.

[signal anchor]

Yea

[river marsh]

I believe the term for the ones being tested is SYNTHs? Love the lore but i cant actively watch it develop due to other things occupying me lol

[acoustic osprey]

SYNTHs = Made by the Replicator first hand

[river marsh]

Ahaa do we know if Augustus was one or no

[acoustic osprey]

are all dinos by AE though descendants of the replicator? Probably, i assume it is likely

but it seems like SYNTHs are always first-hand, likely

[acoustic osprey]

yes

the -S designation is likely an indication if a creature is a SYNTH or not

[river marsh]

But yeah stepping back to this; i can see that being a funny little way of explaining canonically when and how it gets into player hands. Like bugged rexes being too strong so the bloodline is culled and or carnos breaking their own spines with the rapid hits so the "cooldown" to hit was the ones that survived, etc. Goofy but feasible

[river marsh]

Good to know!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/killing-cat-tail-he-just-sits-here-and-kills-me-with-his-tail-killing-humor-gif-14351232264238653366

[river marsh]

Lmao

[acoustic osprey]

this is AUGUSTUS'

HRS.12-S.174 [AUGUSTUS]:

but also notice this
OMNI.12-051.788.004 [DAKOTA] (from the recent lore video)

[grand sigil]

SYNTH HALF LIFE 2 REFERENCE

[acoustic osprey]

both have a very similar name scheme

but i do believe the lack of -S indicates a non-SYNTH

as Don once said "Wild-born animals also contain designations based on the parents there"

[signal anchor]

So HRS stands for Herrerasaurus right? And the S in "S.174" is Synth?

[acoustic osprey]

likely meaning that DAKOTA (004) descended from 051 and 788

[acoustic osprey]

ye
174 being his unique identification number

[signal anchor]

Woah

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shmil-s-half-life-combine-pick-up-that-can-can-gif-22262138

[acoustic osprey]

would be fun
albeit, i think there's a bit too much 'in development' to make it easy to write in lol

[river marsh]

Yeah lol just a goofy thought

[river marsh]

....god now I want to figure out a proper designation for a Theri I've had cooking in my head for ages

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1426130831872757792/togif.gif

[river marsh]

Yeeep

[cerulean flax]

Is this related to the isle?

[snow jasper]

The Isle is not real

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

[acoustic osprey]

just sending over some thoughts from lorecord, about if we'll get more lore by the end of the year

I honestly thinkg we'll probably get nothing more .... we might get some or one glance sheet, probably in-game?
but, i don't think that'll be any time this year

I AM glad we got the INTRUDER Video, of course.
i really did enjoy it and it had some interesting points / ideas coming out of it (of course, with some minor things that I REALLY HOPE gets fixed by the time it can be officially obtained)

however, thinking of it as a sign that we might be getting more lore more often? Ha... yeah...

probably not. Hopium is there.
But i sadly doubt.

HOPEFULLY it won't be another year and a half of nothing (as in no hard / proper lore)

of course
we might get Dondi coming in here maybe two more times by 2025 and giving us some lore info

but nothing that i'd count as hard lore, of course, though

[hexed forge]

and I'd like to mention what I said in Lorecord to what Isaac said

[muted reef]

Dakota?

What's he in

[acoustic osprey]

intruder video

the raptors in the background (audio only)

[acoustic osprey]

quite so!!

[muted reef]

Do they say that?

I lowkey gotta stop speed reading the vids

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge
would you say this is a fair assessment?

-S denoting SYNTH-hood
where DAKOTA lacks one, hence 051 and 788 being DAKOTA's lineage

[muted reef]

Is a lineage entombing? Like if I spawn as a raptor and lets just call him Joel if I entomb him over and over and there were somehow a way to see that history, is that a lineage? Or is a lineage something else

[acoustic osprey]

well, we know that peoples like SHIRLEY are SYNTHs
it is quite likely that -S means SYNTH
i.e. no actual lineage, being THE first generation

from how Dondi described natural born
it seems like it is less entombing and more so actual nested lineage (biological lineage)

Wild-born animals also contain designations based on the parents there

[hexed forge]

yeah

It is a bit weird tho,

The offspring of 051 and 788

The 51st and the 788th raptor

Unless the 51st is a different version of the raptor species, and DAKOTA is a 'mix' of the old version and the new version. Hence why DAKOTA has a unique name
Kind of how Intruder has a really high version?

Would explain the potential gap

[acoustic osprey]

potentially, yeah

or the ID number is randomly generated?

could be
would be a bit weird

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/vader-noooo-gif-4825231

Doubt so and HOPE not

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, it wouldn't be bad

[hexed forge]

It would be miserable (For me)

[acoustic osprey]

just seems like too much
not very made for ease

[hexed forge]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

it could be very number or batch, maybe
it feels like DAKOTA should have a higher number then its 'lineage' though

but i suppose we don't really understand how natural born creatures are
in regards to what AE does

nothing? do they collect them after birth and/or (just) tag them?

[hexed forge]

'The fourth offspring of 051 and 788'

I think 004 makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

potentially so

if that were to be true

would make the most sense

we know they refer to the dinos as their IDs at times, like with AUGUSTUS
saying '174 did this' etc

but i presume
they would ONLY do that in-context

eg. on essays
you write the full title of something
then you abbreviate it in brackets right after

this then allows you to just refer to the abbreviation for the rest of the essay

[hexed forge]

Hatching out of the egg just to see peak male physique staring down at them with a flashlight

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391928826451460158/1423143412156076104/togif.gif

[hexed forge]

Is this your halloween outfit Isaac

[acoustic osprey]

they probably did what we see in the dino dossiers
Basically just observing from afar

do they tag though? I presume that is common in real life
so i suppose it is likely

seeing as all the injected Dibbles were chipped

[acoustic osprey]

if i had the time and money and someone to make the shirt with the badge
then yes

i WILL do it in the future though
but i cannot do it right now :((

[hexed forge]

yeah you're right you must dump all that money into the minecraft server

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[hexed forge]

I need Gen2 to have "things" to do other than "Survive, Find gun, shoot, explore"

Chipping nested players is one of the things I'd add

But unfortunately it seems like that would be down to modders

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

[lethal moat]

Dart gun would be epic

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
doing like what the dossiers showed would be a fun interesting try at a gameplay loop :((

[fast forge]

Indeed, this is how it is done in scientific writing

[acoustic osprey]

yay

i'm just use to academic
not surprised it is the same

seeing as... it is just a waste of words lol

[muted reef]

Missions would be nice

[formal mural]

like in pot!

[acoustic osprey]

But unlike in pot, more engaging ...

[formal mural]

exctly

[acoustic osprey]

Although
How do you make engaging quests?

[formal mural]

witcher 3

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose it is all fetch quests
Unless there's a final goal to achieved

[acoustic osprey]

But for multiplayer though

Especially with survival at play

What does tarkov and dayz do for their gameplay loop?

[formal mural]

i have no idea, never have played them

i think though what would make quests engaging is make them reward you with mutations

i dont really like the idea that you can select any mutation you want just cause you grow

[acoustic osprey]

Mmmm

But with humans though

You can't really have growth

[hexed forge]

Golden Glock skin

For the tasks where you chip the Dino it’s reward is that you are now able to track that Dino 24/7

Basically it’s survival advantages, not really “actual rewards” other than perhaps achievements or lore items

Another example would be you being able to monitor the TCAMs that you set up in an area

[vocal tundra]

Supply drops maybe too being rewarded for your job

[hexed forge]

Depends on what Gen2s purpose on the island is

Were they sent by AE to take control/monitor the island? Or was it something else, etc

[tawdry lily]

So basically tasks based on what company you are working for.

[lethal moat]

That'd be sick, but I think that's been disproven sadly

[acoustic osprey]

I kinda wish we could have the option
or at least for a live event-type of ordeal
to basically pick Apollo Engineering versus "Anti/Rival AE Company / team"

then from there
You could actually pick the fate for the rest of The Isle Worldbuilding

like what we had in the old Isle steam menu

https://gyazo.com/f2e5992496f271bc0146683b1b480c32

[barren ruin]

does this include figuring out why AE put speakers in the swamps that play frog noises even though they never seem to spawn there? cuz i have questions

[hexed forge]

this is so real

[barren ruin]

i do have to admit this is my absolute favourite way of story telling, just having the world tell the story by enviroment

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1390370379184214097/1395909752189620286/togif-34.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://strawpoll.com/3RnYlKGE9ye

[barren ruin]

i was partially serious though, theres always been frog noises in the swamp just background audio but its the same noise as actual bullfrogs so it might be on purpose to study animals "frustrated" behaviour.

also i've been noticing the mosquito sound ingame more often with each patch as if the devs are trying to tell us something, it might be the first form of the monstermom creature

forgot the actual dossier name of what im refering to

[acoustic osprey]

it's probably to do with the sound design (Wedge) then anything
but maybe. The only thing we have on sound annoyance is the INTRUDER Rex

so maybe we could get more like that

[barren ruin]

havent been able to follow much recently, Intruder rex?

[acoustic osprey]

be the recent lore video! We only got it on a stream, so we don't have a physical one
but i'll send the link

[barren ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/boss-gatsby-cheers-leonardo-di-caprio-great-gatsby-gif-6982605735130831830

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJqMK3wJ-iQ

[vocal tundra]

this is new

[acoustic osprey]

ye

only like 2 weeks old now, something like that

[low scarab]

I love this idea

But the thing that keeps me up at night is that we all have cool ideas for the game/lore in general and I’m sure don does too it’s just a matter of what point it’s actually started

Like when will the isle actually begin to take shape into what it wants to be we are so early on into development imo (even 5 years later) and we still have a hell of a long way to go before we even start to completely iron out certain placeholders from legacy

I guess what I want to say is that I hope there’s a plan and I hope everything in development gets a thorough review before we really start to delve into the way the lore was initially meant to be revealed I don’t want too many cut corners but I don’t want star citizen either I guess

Rare V raptor yap sesh I suppose

[fast forge]

Would be cool to get a dondi stream today/tonight

[vocal tundra]

cool af

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-sad-hands-shake-shaking-gowr-gow-god-of-war-god-of-war-ragnarok-gif-5690171085387099711

[acoustic osprey]

quite so, quite so

[acoustic osprey]

i said something a bit similar to Hacker earlier today, along a similar line

#isle-discussion message

it is a shame. As we all know, we're on the lowest of the ladder in terms of priority as a sub-group/niche section of the community

[low scarab]

One can dream…

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-dance-cat-dancing-psych-ward-white-room-gif-7934138772560080564

[fast forge]

I bet Gen 1 will be in the humans tab

[tired ember]

what does the DT stand for?

oh. diet?

[acoustic osprey]

proobs yeah

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt any other, yeah

shame they didn't rename it to Humanoids though

[gaunt dawn]

Its still in WIP

[acoustic osprey]

it ain't gonna change bear

this has been something they'd had for almost a year now from the last showcase of that specific menu

[gaunt dawn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1383297040536305705/CannibalCave.gif

[vocal tundra]

Saw what you meant with Rex atavism

Suggesting they create the animals with DNA

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!

[acoustic osprey]

wait a mintute

Archive Data!?!?!
Which archive! Archive 7!?

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[vocal tundra]

what happened

[acoustic osprey]

scammers

[low scarab]

Isaac is trying to keep the free nitro all to himself

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-gif-21279019

[grand sigil]

i looked into my crystal ball and it says the isle

[grand sigil]

sorry that was rude

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[formal mural]

Its okay

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stunned-wow-omg-lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-gif-7647770

(Now just put in some lore stuff and it'll be perfection)

.

Perhaps in order to unlock the data for the species you gotta find it's glance sheet in-game. So until then all it says is "Specimen Data Undiscovered"

If not oh well,

I think it does need some more tweaks to the species data to make it more "Lore-ish" or just more readable in general

[valid geyser]

I think some lore stuff and a very faint glow likeeee.. this would be nice

-# gives computer vibes

[hexed forge]

Just get rid of the dirty screen effect and it'll look better 🙏

I'd take a CRT effect over the dirty screen one

[vocal tundra]

InGen computer style

[merry zodiac]

Or just give the ability to turn it off

[acoustic osprey]

a glow does work

it makes the dirt / scratches more realistic

if anything
I think we also need a tiny bit of a screen distortion

because the scratches try and imitate you looking into a CRT monitor

so it should have more of a 'looking at monitor' effect to it

[shell spire]

what do the matriarchs do

like do they give birth to strain dinos or what

[lethal moat]

The matriarch is it's own animal, it's related to the tissoplastic strain, it changes what it looks like as it grows based on what it eats

[acoustic osprey]

^

you might be mixing the matriarch entity and matriarch for nesting

However, in legacy lore, likely, the Matriarch entity was also a literal matriarch (as in having kids)

"She was the matriarch"

“...LEADING UP TO THE COMPOUND ITSELF. UPON REACHING THE STRUCTURE, SPECIMEN (7 LETTERS) BEGAN PACING. WE EXPECTED THE SAME TYPE OF RAGE ONE WOULD EXPECT FROM ANY AGGRESSIVE ANIMAL, BUT IT WAS SUBDUED,FOCUSED, AND CALCULATED. SHE WAS THE MATRIARCH, AND NO ONE WAS TAKING HER OFFSPRING. NOT HERE. NOT NOW. NOT EVER.”

[elder pier]

What is the skeleton underneath titans lake

[snow jasper]

me

[pulsar bronze]

hey, can someone help me im stuck loading into an EU server and im loading for 20 mins now. It says ''connecting....''

[soft spade]

not here not now not ever

[faint raven]

anyone got lore about prime elder argentinosaurus???

[strange shell]

yes

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/explaining-jack-black-dewey-finn-school-of-rock-explain-gif-24700075

[feral mist]

canonically speaking... are there any actual humans in the isle aside from the experiments?

[lethal moat]

Define “actual humans”

[feral mist]

you know, scientists... investigators... heck, maybe the CIA working beneath the ground?

you know, not monster humans X)

[lethal moat]

In lore yeah, there’s researchers and the like

[feral mist]

it would be amazing to see like patrols and whatnot that we can hunt as dinos o-o

[lethal moat]

The island has been abandoned

[feral mist]

but-

[lethal moat]

What is in the lore and what is in the game are not the exact same

[feral mist]

oh... different timelines?

[lethal moat]

Not really, the isle’s been abandoned for awhile based on foliage growth, so how things were in the past and how things are now can just be different

[gaunt dawn]

Beipsi java

[bold crater]

AE having a sense of humor perhaps....
maybe....

[feral mist]

it sound unrealistic that AE left his most important proyect behind yk...

[lethal moat]

Maybe they had to

[feral mist]

I don't want to believe that q-q

lore dies q-q

[ornate comet]

Isle park builder sim set in the past when

[stiff lintel]

I mean, it's not completely abandoned. It's obviously still being monitored.

[crude plover]

what if the dinosaurs wernt made for some kind of park, but for war

[fast forge]

We know that Gen 1 was made as a weapon, but the actual dinosaurs were not

Also tbh a t-rex is an awful weapon when we already have tanks and planes and drones and such

There's a reason no one uses war elephants nowadays

[crude plover]

makes sence

[lethal moat]

“Worlds most fearsome predator” when I show it the power of 7.62 and an elevated position

[rapid chasm]

probably not

knowing bears because they can literally tank 7.62 and still run at you

[fast forge]

(well also the atlas elephant of Carthaginian fame is extinct)

[fast forge]

Meanwhile I'm sitting in a bunker in Oklahoma and I send a drone to bomb your rex

[stiff lintel]

7.62x39 or 7.62x51mmR?

[lethal moat]

7.62x39, 7.62x51, or 7.62x54

[lethal moat]

Ayyyy

[stiff lintel]

I played a lot of DayZ and SCUM. Which is what I hope human gameplay is like.

[lethal moat]

It’s been compared to DayZ

[stiff lintel]

The Isle's human gameplay?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[gaunt dawn]

DayZ and tarkov

[rapid chasm]

why would you use a bomb when you can use a hellfire

more direct and safer since a bomb needs laser guidance from the ground

[lethal moat]

Expensive, just use a dude with a rifle and a helicopter

[stiff lintel]

Good

[fast forge]

I'm a scientist, not a CoD player lol

You understood my point, no need to flex

[stiff lintel]

Shotgun, rifle, and pistol (not revolver) would probably be my main weapons.

[gaunt dawn]

You gotta find the mags and ammo for them aswell

[stiff lintel]

Oh I know

[acoustic osprey]

do we

[vocal tundra]

A 7.62 shot maybe but multiple rounds no

[neat lance]

whats the lore behind that neuro spino with the doctors operating on it

[lethal moat]

That's unofficial art

Tapwing's lore says it died prematurely

[acoustic osprey]

^

[torpid roost]

Jus throw poisoned food in their territory and they will die cheap

[round heath]

What did they add in the new 4GB update?

[iron anchor]

is it just artistic choice that some of the prime elders look more like strains than a growth cycle

[lethal moat]

Probably

[worthy fox]

What if the isle is a simulation based on life on jupiters smallest moon where elon musk is god and will dominate the dinosaurs?

[river marsh]

Check the channel description...

[worthy fox]

Where do i do that?

Ah

I see

But like it isnt impossible is it?

Maybe i have to learn more about it before i begin spitting out theories

[strange shell]

It is

[worthy fox]

Can you explain why?

[strange shell]

Just read anything about the lore

[river marsh]

Elon musk has never once been mentioned as canon nor is this compared to real life in any capacity that im aware of.

[vocal tundra]

technichally he'd be alive since it takes place in the modern world

[lethal moat]

Does it?

[river marsh]

...headache if it is the modern world, which im 99% sure it isnt, we dont even have a present date unless ive missed something.

[vocal tundra]

aye it looks modern so ima say its modern

no stellaris bldgs in sight

[river marsh]

So im going to point something out using very well known media even if cringe.

Twilight takes place in a fictional town. It takes inspiration from the modern world. That does not mean elon musk, a real person, exists in a fictional world because of the setting being "modern".

Keyword fiction. The game is in a fictional setting.

[vocal tundra]

idek what twilight is tbh i wouldnt know

[lethal moat]

Is it 1990s modern or 2060s modern

[vocal tundra]

1990s id say

could be in between tho

[woven trench]

Alright lore meisters

What is the replicator

[formal mural]

a cctv camera

[celest coyote]

it replicates things i'm pretty sure

oh that and it is watching you

[acoustic osprey]

well actually

chaos theory

unironically

he could exist, but it is entirely possible that he might not have

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/catto-gif-17643687004817745866

[torpid roost]

what was the number to find dondi quotes?

[acoustic osprey]

001

Then copy the third number code

Should start with a 6

[torpid roost]

Ty

[fierce tinsel]

Hi lore chat

Long time no see

[acoustic osprey]

Howdy there

[lethal moat]

Transistor

[hexed forge]

gone

[gaunt dawn]

Olympus transmitter?!?

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/stan-twt-skeleton-banging-shield-raggghhh-tatas-skeleton-gif-285383495768827336

[lethal moat]

Never real in the first place mayhaps

[lethal moat]

Praying on neuro stuff in spooky month dev blog

[ornate comet]

Don should stealth drop austro on my birthday

[acoustic osprey]

Nhj lore please... somewhere...

I just really hope something like my idea is implemented for the game, relating to obtaining lore documents in game through the main menu once you interact with X lore

And hopefully, because something like that could be in the works, that it is pretty useless to have proper lore documents in game till that implementation

And if so, that it is sooner rather then later

[merry zodiac]

Maybe in the extras in the future

[acoustic osprey]

exactly my thought
no unnecessary adding more buttons or what

maybe they could make the main menu a bit more sophicated (i.e. fuller and less white space)
and maybe add a button somewhere else

but i would not mind EXTRAs being the place to hold and download a high res scan of any lore videos, documents, papers etc

of course, it would be better with a more lore-d name to it, rather then EXTRAs
but i do not mind too much

[merry zodiac]

Think of the avarage joe Isaac they wont care about the lore they might find glance sheets, the videos there, something about how the dinos were envisioned. But that wont mean there wont be hidden msges in there for us to find

Or it could be another new interface under the extras

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/skip-cat-gif-676757377990180948

[merry zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-gif-12100055351253481367

[low scarab]

hey hey lookie there

[low scarab]

the real question

[acoustic osprey]

makes me wonder how 'big brother' the replicator may be

maybe she won't be, unlike seemingly in legacy

we shall see!

[low scarab]

I like to think the replicator is to the gen 2 as glados is in portal to the player

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[kindred bobcat]

Center the menu selections

[lethal moat]

Secret goodies makes me want to check the map

[acoustic osprey]

i probably wouldn't

[acoustic osprey]

quite so!

[fast forge]

I'm hoping for redwoods

[acoustic osprey]

loading screen up and running!

the link system isn't unique/random number as well, we saw the same numbers a year ago

henceforth, the isle is over!!

[deep dust]

s

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[vocal tundra]

Wym

[acoustic osprey]

Top left of this

[acoustic osprey]

^

[river marsh]

Or its being consistent with the story and the graphics changed but the story hasnt in regards to that detail lol

[acoustic osprey]

i would think that the link system would, realistically, link with you (the profile)

unless the link system is just a specific "all in one" type system

that being, it is the link system between player and the replicator

[river marsh]

Might be! Though that would be hella spook if you saw your own steam ID

[acoustic osprey]

we've had that only happen twice, iirc
but not in-game though, technically

that being with two specific old lore members
long long ago

[royal mango]

Dome is still empty. I called off work today for illness and will probably go look around each of the tunnel entrances for changes

[woven trench]

Scower the map for new human structure prop 🤑

[fast forge]

🫡

[ornate comet]

I really do wonder if we’ll get other maps eventually

If the environment is different then there may need to be some disabling of certain species on a map to map basis

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cooler-if-you-did-gif-11144712

[ornate comet]

Other then that it may just be mods for maps

Snow map and desert map would be amazing. I did have an idea for maps with drastic climate and environment changes tho

Certain species that wouldn’t fit or survive in the new map would have “subspecies.” Imagine a snow map, dryos on there roster but with full feathering to fit in and also not freeze to death

Things like that if you know what I mean. Variations of the models and maybe even abilities in some cases

[brazen cradle]

@acoustic osprey you checked any human buildings yet? See if maybe there's new documents?

Or perhaps we have to look for a camera..By WA

[fast forge]

There's this

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

doubt theres anything

[stiff lintel]

Do y'all have the coordinates of all the human locations?

[analog halo]

I just visited most of the known human sturctures and didn´t find any big changes, some shelves have new stuff on them, like batteries or earmuffs but thats it.

I also visited the location of the Rex Lore Video from dondis Stream and didn´t find any camera or whatnot.

[acoustic osprey]

Old stuff on them then sadly
Or at least, those are old models

Not sure about placement

[acoustic osprey]

:((

I honestly do think so
Maybe there won't be a TCAM
Maybe you have to paleo call there

Don't know though if they've implemented a system like time, species, location though

Which something like that would be similar to

[hexed forge]

I dont think Paleo Calls are even in yet

[acoustic osprey]

They are apparently

You have to be over 75 percent

[hexed forge]

So the secret goodies could just be...

[fast forge]

Honestly I wonder if "secret goodies" is just a way of saying they buffed certain playables without having to list all of the changes lol

[fathom jay]

Rex Paleo Call was even in the previous ht patch, so it's not that

[hexed forge]

thanks dondi this is helpful for the community

[hexed forge]

oh i see

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[ornate comet]

someone sent this a sec ago

@acoustic osprey

[fast forge]

yeah, how much of this is new?

[fast forge]

you see this?

[hexed forge]

die and record this entire segment because this is new I'm pretty sure, at least it looks like it to me

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/blm-gif-25815938

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/rocklee-naruto-funnynaruto-gif-2935989477461621532

[fast forge]

I found this sample of the old text
Looks pretty similar at first glance, I haven't gone over it
#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

It does look very similar yeah but just in case we might have to check the entire thing

[fast forge]

same reference to "harvest base"
same "the end is never the end is never..."

It's likely they just took the same programmed scroll of text and stuck it in the new UI

But we should keep an eye out in case it changes in future UI updates

[hexed forge]

yay

[ornate comet]

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/lm9OPLJzBPLMNjrV4?invite=cr-MSxsMVQsMTkzMTg3NTkw here ya go

[hexed forge]

yeah it seems to be the same

Your death is USELESSSSS

[muted reef]

I bet he's sad he lost that ptera

[fast forge]

I like to try to time my crash so that I'm 1-calling right when I hit the ground, and the call gets cut off partway through

[fast forge]

a mutation-less ptera at that

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-flames-gif-10186555274208843849

[ornate comet]

not really he was pretty young

[young viper]

guys this clearly means The isle x Fortnine collab

[hexed forge]

Woah

[ornate comet]

daylight (for 8 secs)

[fast forge]

@acoustic osprey
New music? Thought you might find this interesting
#isle-discussion message

[ornate comet]

I can try and see

once uh..you know

[muted reef]

That's the joke

[ornate comet]

ok so far I bit a deer and nothing happened so maybe its player only

or I just need to relog

well got into a fight, real laggy. No music at all even with it cranked to 100 so idk

[acoustic osprey]

Probably just the orchestal combat music
Did they have a recording

[fast forge]

nah that was all I saw

[acoustic osprey]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

Shame that it is just the old stuff

Can't read the text on the left
Will have to check if that's existed prior before

But the rest is old

[brazen cradle]

Yo Isaac, find anything yet?

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of the death screen text?

[brazen cradle]

In terms of "Secret Goodies"

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of this, this is just this
the small text on the left is just the whole text on the right

[acoustic osprey]

haha. No.
unless the death screen is one of them

which, it is just the old death screen but the text moved around

[hexed forge]

It is most likely nothing lore-wise unfortunately 🫠

I still believe that he wrote that just to shorten the patch notes instead of writing down every single QoL change

[echo gazelle]

Only thing lore from that was the latest login

[acoustic osprey]

which login?

[echo gazelle]

Actually I'm wrong, it's not lore anymore. It was the login during the console stream and Magna

[acoustic osprey]

console stream!!

oh so long ago now...

[echo gazelle]

lost to the ages

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-meme-memes-sad-sunset-gif-21470428

if only dondi clips on twitch weren't killed

[formal mural]

mhmm

seems about right

[stiff lintel]

The last Apollo login was over 2000 years ago?

[strange shell]

It's called a glitch

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

Gulp

2172

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[tawdry lily]

I liked the "Help" part, looks like someone is "stuck somewhere"

[stiff lintel]

Or maybe, the return of the EIPs?

Probably not.

[fast forge]

EIP's already returned
They have been re-confirmed as canon

[snow jasper]

woohoo

[stiff lintel]

What if it's the EIP crying for help?

Okay now that just sounds stupid.

[fast forge]

I think that's exactly what it is

[stiff lintel]

If it is, that is extremely eerie

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/nWknuMOO-A8?si=0WU3Nq2T4Hs99aTM

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[fallen thicket]

My friend got hacked and was spewing the same pictures

[sand basin]

is that meant to be a dna code ? if yes why is it 4 base ? normally it should be 3

[vocal tundra]

@acoustic osprey @lethal moat do you guys have the dossier sheets for the field reports by any chance?

like for allo and other animals

[lethal moat]

We only have the dossier sheets for beipi, cerato, galli, amd a blurred one for rex

[vocal tundra]

aw shucks

[desert mountain]

kinda sad that maia and diablo didn't got one 🙁

[snow jasper]

wut

its 4

adenine
guanine
t something
c something

technically 5 but thats rna

in rna you have U and dna its T

[sand basin]

I am aware of that

But you dont read it as 4 :)

it would rather look like this , thats why I asked lol

[snow jasper]

OH

no then yes you're right

i didn't even see that it was in groups of 4

i mean, this game got rid of the diet symbols in exchange for greek letters even though the original symbols had molecular structural links

day by day, we drift further from science fiction into science tomfoolery 😞

[sand basin]

Yes thats why I am so very confused xd

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-edge-runner-edge-runners-cyberpunk-edgerunner-cyberpunk2077-gif-27635553

[sand basin]

for example this would be a few dna,rna and their responsive trna and bla bla bunch of boring stuff for most 😂

[snow jasper]

oh no its no worries, i still sadly remember all of it from when i studied biology and biochemistry 😞

[sand basin]

I wouldn't have seen it either if I wasn't working and studying biotechnology and bioinformatics 😂

[sand basin]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[snow jasper]

what is it with the lore community and biologists
theres a disproportionate amount

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stupid-slobber-the-bluetooth-device-is-ready-to-pair-gif-17323072743601828847

[lethal moat]

Many

[sand basin]

soo that is why is it meant to be like a dna code orrrrrr smth else 😂

[snow jasper]

science tomfoolery

[sand basin]

dinos just too good that they used 4 letter codes 😂

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-world-spared-no-expense-expensive-ballin-gif-3734237251951290856

[fast forge]

oh my, that's actually silly
who has ever heard of a codon with 4?

[sand basin]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

its def too late to understand if that is making fun about my question or agreeing xD

[fast forge]

oh I was agreeing

codons are always 3, you are absolutely right

I didn't catch that they had 4 for some reason

[sand basin]

its just funny because I looked in here by accident saw cerato was like hah here he is and then randomly saw that pic was like ? that dont seem right 😂 oh well not a biggie maybe the lore people can make some crazy theories out of that

[acoustic osprey]

they probably did in 2018 with it

[acoustic osprey]

luckily lore theories wasn't wiped, so you could honestly lol

i might...

i do know old lore theories from 2018 to 2019 was pretty wacky
lots of random folks with silly ideas

[acoustic osprey]

i find it funny that the new buildings have ACs

i wonder if AE know they're not good for the environment or they've developed ACs that are good for the environment
or it's a small price to pay for salvation

[acoustic osprey]

@lethal moat

i streamed a tiny bit yesterday and went around I12 as well

the 2nd and 3rd images are from Docks
some of the pre-existing building interiors got updated

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

i do need to have a look around a bit more
I know frolo said k15 was the same

but i want to see if any of the interiors have changed - because i know if Frolo KNOWS k15 as well as the lore nerds

saying that as if i am not a lorenerd

[lethal moat]

Lets think about how the hell capturing alive is going to work

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/focused-im-ready-prepared-battle-lets-do-this-gif-16076919

[ionic fog]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-fly-gif-19308575

Me taking all the tenos

For larger assets, please see Exhibit C, chinook

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I’ve done did some thinking and I think I’ve got a little more evidence for a theory I’ve had for awhile now

[pseudo fable]

[lethal moat]

I don’t think gen 1 will officially be on gateway for 2 main reasons

1. The infrastructure there isn’t build to contain intelligent human sized things with thumbs, and they would be frighteningly efficient hunting humans throughout human bases
2. Gen 1 exist in case something happens to AE, the dinosaurs have that covered on gateway, and the gen 1 would be out competed, this leads me to believe that gen 1 wouldn’t survive long term on gateway (I doubt they’re designed to be long term regardless, but I’ll get to that in a second), so in an official server capacity, they’d need their own map, potentially something smaller and a lot more urban.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-alec-guinness-obi-wan-kenobi-serious-think-gif-5199304