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And then Additional โnotesโ.. I think
Yay now give me a cookie for this hard work
i think ur right, I can make out Hatchling, Juvenile, Adolescent/Subadult, Adult, Elder
Yeah
Yeah
These all look correct
No
No big dta
Soon!!
We JUST got lore
Yay
Also Iโm noticing a lot of new people speaking here that arenโt in lorecord, join up people 
Hi lorecord
yay
so hyped when don said they plan on adding a lot more human buildings around the island
I wonder if there is a species (that we don't know of) which will have the level of intellect that is comparable to Orcas in lore
I do think orcas are on a comparable level of intelligence to us humans
The Big Crabs
I think it's crows, orcas, and humans that are all pretty close
just shown in different ways
and of course we have sapience and free will
Neurotenic Troodon
wanted to avoid strains ๐
ok normal troodon
Both of which are myths made up to make us feel better about having anxiety
Troooo Don
Maybe
Alright what species is the dumbest now
Gen2s !!!
maybe some generic herbi
trike!!
i think the biggest question is, though:
EIPs (?)
Stegosaurus. No thoughts Just Big Swing.
lol
I raise you: tacos
The Pterodactylus atleast Runs Away When one of them is killed, iโve Had Two Tacos Run Directly Into my Cerato one Right after the Other (i Then Ate The Carno That smelled them, As a Power Move)
sending this here
just because i REALLY hope Don sees this
PLEASE put these glance sheets out somewhere, regardless of GUTS (knowing the delays...)
AND that we can interact with them in-game, and them being sent to "EXTRAS" in the main menu. So we can properly download and have a high res version.
Rather than just a blurry and barely readable glance sheet. Knowing how hard it is to read more small things in-game like papers
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have you not watched it!?
Nope
man
me and my dad actually helped with the bikes for Furiosa (the recent film)
definitely recommend watching the whole lot
Thats pretty sick
definitely!
ah but the isle lore, mmmm
oh i think i need to have a look at the lore doc again
I think i said something last night to myself on stream on a bit of stuff that we're missing
i think we don't have a section on EIPs properly, also making sure all the info from the INTRUDER Video is done
Ow Cool itโs Dondi, itโs always So Lovely seeing Dondi In Chat
quite so
Given my Past Experiences saying those words in that order. Dondi Should Begin Thanos Snapping his Messages from Chat.
hm?
hi cerato
hello
I Made Mention Of Camarasaurus being in the Background of Dondiโs Stream and He Immediately Deleted it from existence. I can Get the Clip if You would Like
interesting
just looking at this again
i'm curious on the negative Hz we see
and wondering maybe this is a comprehension issue on my behalf
Because you can't get negative Hz physically
this has taken me down some long reddit rabbit holes, in which i would probably have to end up using google scholar in finding better sound-based physics papers on such
some things lead me to this:
A common phenomenon in physics is the sign negation: you see it with energy transfers, you see it with electricity, and you see it with velocity. If you put a negative sign on a velocity, all it does is flip it in 180 degrees, the opposite direction. This is the same phenomenon for frequency (at least, for sound waves). If we go back to our example earlier, and give the north-south particle a negative frequency, it will still vibrate at the same frequency, but instead of moving north first, it will move south first. Same frequency, just the opposite phase.
curious then on it revolving around / being inverted phase
so I'm supposing it could be, rather than INTRUDER being able to play around with phase,
it actually being the software itself likely trying to play around with its analysis capabilities. Potentially...
Ultimately either this is far too advanced for me or this is kinda in the sci-fi realm of audio
Just because infrasound is from 20hz and below to just before nil.
Which can be observed like through this graph here (below)
oh i didn't even see
No it must be something making 'below 0Hz/negative Hz'
as this time-frequency graph / spectrogram
Which marks down -20hz
interesting
of course, MAYBE, this (the whole thing and not just the spectrogram)
could be interlinked with how the idea of ANC / NC ((Active) Noise Cancellation)
i.e. using the idea of phase cancellation
and thus this is may actually be the sound analysis machine/system actually referring to "Anti-Noise"
(using Negative Hz [-] as its notation to mark such)
doesn't really make sense for the spectrogram
but definitely could with this line
Pattern confirmed: SINE-INTERFERENCE MAPPING @ -14.7 Hz
no worries
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Cola canth?
gone
gone?
no
Guys, the lore is the same that was intended before(legacy), or did it had some changes?
I'd say it's pretty different
that's cool, there some "easy" way to understand the lore?
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isleโs Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
Theres also a lore server if you'd like to join it
Thanks
Can u summarise this
why is there no fish in the rivers/lakes? i'm basically starving now and has swimed a lot as shown in the print
What time of day is It?
If itโs in the middle of the Night there isnโt going to be many Fish, wait until Dawn.
The sun Means Fish Spawn
This is not lore I think
oh sorry i was here reading and forgot to change
yay
Fish Spawn time is Totally Lore Related
See, the Fish Are EIPโs And They Sleep At Night
anyways 2 ceras was fighting and i ate the remainings, i'm saved for another day
the isle lore
i think
woohoo
I cant find a good gif for the thing Im about to say nooooooooo
Ah screw it, this will work
oh
you're a day late but yes
i came back for The Isle Lore
when is holy guacamole coming back
who
Holy Guacamole!
don't know him sorry
Evil Guacamole!
NOOO
anyways
I think i have to do an INTRUDER Lore Analysis video
rather than finish my AUGUSTUS video
The video isn't even officially released..
The video still might have many mistakes.. 
i believe the video is close to the final product, as it was suggested a few months ago
when don't the lore videos have mistake...
we did though
I dont think so
why
I think theres more to the video
Why would it awkwardly end at a glance sheet display!!
i really doubt so
because the others end similar to that as well...
AT LEAST have it end like how AUGUSTUS ended lol
No?
AUGUSTUS didnt
I think.. actually lemme check
i doubt it'd be anymore then this
i doubt so
It just feels too short and awkward
we only see in the video in what we get in the opening pc menu
only thing we don't get
is seeing the local TCAM system in the Intruder video
The live Trail Camera system is there tho.. ๐ฅบ
also the ending of the intruder video seems thematic enough with its glitch ending
I think theres more to the video tbh,
Why would Don randomly show the full video. It felt more like a teaser
why wouldn't he
it's like what he used to do with lore stuff in the past, especially pre recode
This is different
how so
Why would he show the full video and then proceed to not release it until rex official release,
Its dumb
There has to be more to it
What other lore stuff are you talking about
Did he randomly show the full AUGUSTUS video on a stream?
a large amount of legacy content
^
Yes, exactly,
This is different
the whole aspect of the user inquiries was done on stream
Yes because those were MEANT to be on stream
i don't see it any differently then them
.
User Inquiries weren't the only thing
we also got tons of new music, lore images, phrases and quotes and descriptions + reveals
i mean
do we need it to be released on the YouTube channel?
if anything
i kinda hope more lore videos are embedded / hidden within the game next time
NOT the same as lore videos because we actually get lore videos posted on youtube and announced as a separate thing
rather than being given out willy nilly
which is like the glance sheets
why isn't Don posting them? > because they're meant to be shown somewhere else (in-game)
im always a fan of finding lil neat things ingame, like how apex legends sometimes teases upcoming content
how is it (lore reveals from streams long ago) not the same as the INTRUDER Video
And the solution is to just show it on stream with no warning and pray that people get the full thing recorded
if we could find a terminal ingame that required a password from a nearby paper, and played a lore video when entered, that would be sick (or something along those lines)
i mean
yeah. This is exactly what happened on Dons stream
if you didn't clip it. Good luck.
this is... before clipping was stopped on Don steams
Because those were actually being explained and described, actively shown by Don, not randomly teased and then abruptly ended like nothing ever happened
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silent hill puzzle-aah lore
fair
but i don't think that equates being the main distinguisher on why it makes the INTRUDER video that majorly different
we didn't get explanations from Don about the User Inquiries
they happened. If you were Khorne or Galli, you were the only person who knew what was truly happening
it's a bit too complicated
because every lore reveal by Don has always been a bit different to each other. This seems to be (intruder) not an exception from my experience
(btw though. I still believe it is practically finished. If anything, it might have that type of AUGUSTUS ending. Or just the glitched ending, like in the Dibble Video)
He wanted those to be saved by the community,
He was actively answering questions/explaining (Giving hints) what this piece of artwork/building/whatever is.
Not just randomly putting it up in the stream and then not talking about it for the rest of the.. what was it.. 5-6 hour stream..?
nonetheless if you summarise the video, we still learn and understand new things like from AUGUSTUS and Diablo TCAM vid
I do believe the main content of the video is finished and what we saw.
if he wanted those to be saved
he would've kept VODs on and not 'if you miss it, you missed it' type Twitch Clipping
i wonder if that unreleased rex vid has any lore implications in it
yes
But he was making it really easy to do so, compared to the sudden and abrupt introduction of the intruder video
of course
its mostly about infrasound communication by a Rex
and potentially it being atavism. Which i need to learn more on
infrasound?? atavism???? what are these words bro ๐ญ
how did he make it easy to do
compared to this
besides that you can't clip anymore
which has been a thing for years
isle lore is beyond me fr
Either way
WHY DO YOU WANT TO ANALYZE A VIDEO THAT HASN'T RELEASED YET AGHHHHHHHHHHH
Literally one of the main rules of being part of this community is to not overthink something that isn't even in the game/not officially announced yet.
AND YOU'RE ALREADY LIKE MIDWAY THROUGH THE AUGUSTUS VIDEO, JUST FINISH THAT
infrasound is sound below or at 20hz
i.e. sound you cannot hear, but can feel
think subwoofers
ah so like the paleo-accurate rex sounds that are deep vibrations instead of traditional roars
because i still believe the content part of the video was finished
and, if anything, is missing maybe 5 secs of the finale
ye
and atavism? Unsure, its not a sound word
a tendency to revert to something ancient or ancestral.
how ancestral though? Does this mean that INTRUDER (at least) is genetically related to actual irl Rex dna?
Or did an earlier version of AE's Rex have some sort of infrasound ability
Actually talking about the thing he's showing... giving warnings on whats coming up next "oh this is pretty fun!'.... that makes it easier to clip 'IN COMPARISON' to the intruder video being teased.
I still wouldn't judge it that quickly
again, this never happened with the user inquiries for example
like i said in this #isle-lore-theories message
because every lore reveal by Don has always been a bit different to each other. This seems to be (intruder) not an exception from my experience
im out of date for whats considered canon to the current evrima lore, but that atavism definition makes me think of that old idea of ppl's minds being in the dinos
also was intruder a past lore vid i missed
EIPs!
and no, INTRUDER is new
but there was another Rex (SHIRLEY) who was in the AUGUSTUS video
Yes the user inquiries are probably the sole exception,
But the rest of the stream lore reveals...? They all apply,
For example that big one with all the concept art, models, etc...
i am, sorry
all the other videos have been pretty straightforward with no big ending / akin
it was also inferred that 'this' video was finished and just waiting to be used โ so i doubt Don all of a sudden wants to add a lot more to it. As we know he is working on the Trike Vid
so should i bundle the INTRUDER video in the User Inquiries then, type-reveal
Im not saying that he would add more to it,
Im saying that theres probably more to the video that we didn't see yet because he ended it so abruptly
If we were watching the last few seconds on the video, why couldn't he just let it roll..
He ended it at the exact moment the glance sheet popped up
no
no he didn't
2-3 seconds after it popped up sorry
not really
it's around 10 seconds of the glance sheet popping up at the side
then it starts glitching, revealing the genome thingo
then it pauses and turns off
note, it wasn't Don pausing it
as the sound was still playing
You're right
I didn't notice the genome part
sentenced to 10 years working in the Tartarian mines
Quick question, is this somehow still relevant to the lore or was it all changed? I was watching some old videos and remembered this
very very old now... but probably, maybe
Thousand Life Contract is still a thing iirc
that lore is dependent on the idea of EIPs and how they worked
How did they work? We didn't really know. It did tie into thousand life contract and what YOU as the player/profile were to Apollo
how does this dynamic change in Evrima Lore? We don't know
So maybe
EIPs are still very 50/50 right now. Who and what is an EIP? Do we play as an EIP / profile?
who knows!
I dont know...
I still think there would be more to the video..
I dont think you should analyze it until it's full release and it ends up being more widely known.. but oh well, your choice ๐
maybe. It was confirmed in 2022
i would say it still is, but maybe.
do we know what EIP stands for
in legacy it was embryo intelligence profile (Profile or EIP for short)
Didn't Don confirm that in Evrima?
Ok thanks, this is all so interesting, wish more people cared about the lore, really appreciate your work on it
maybe
but i still think if i did a video on it. Nothing much would change, maybe besides the wrong location tag and a tiny bit more of the ending being ended better
confirmed EIPs just we don't know if the internals have changed
not like i believe so
but if EIPs aren't the profile (the player)
then i could imagine an internal name change
what about the views 
THE ISLE LORE REX IS REAL!!!! CAN MAKE REALLY INTERESTING SOUNDS
ALSO PLEASE LOOK AT THIS REALLY LONG SOUND ANALYSIS I MADE
You're right actually,
Do the video and then release it on the day of when the video actually releases.
If anything changed it should be a quick fix if you have the majority of the video done right 
THE VIEWSSS
honestly
IF anything
I think Don should change a little bit
like fixing the location
AND
the negative Hz
easy as !!!
I tried reading it when I woke up
Also thanks for not answering in lorecord!!!
somone sabotaging apollo :3
oh
me and the boys reading the rex details to hunt it and the rex was behind us all this time
yo guys look at this cutie patootie
maybe this little guy is Augustus
No
it is
so are we all playing as descendants of agustus when we play herrera
more or less yeah
yuh basically
and was legacy herrera canonically the original herrera that AE made, since it didnt climb
or is legacy noncanon
yes and no
note the version:
0.1.2
what Punch (iirc) told us
was that it is a soft reference to what came before (in legacy)
here proof
aye
google docs givin me answers
lol
do you serve under ApolloEngineering at least?
ye
im gunna go to tartarus next
im in.
also noticed something with the new ones and the old ones
the new colour scheme is really dark now
and painfully hard to read on my MacBook
lol
i suppose this is more of a production thing then lore thing
As its the same computer specs as the AUGUSTUS video, from the INTRUDER video
hmmm
guys, what's olympus ๐
i think we know a bit more on Tartarus then OLYMPUS haha...

but, we can assume OLYMPUS holds high ranking individuals
Both the INTRUDER video and AUGUSTUS videos have users (or the same user? But i doubt... who knows) that both contain Lvl 5 authorisation
so it is likely a place of high lvl individuals
likely up in the 'corporate' ladder
yeah, the AGUSTUS vid also mentioned that people in management for olympus are the ones deciding on relocations and entombments. Makes me wonder if when we entomb ingame on horde test, that means canonically that someone at olympus has decided to do the same to our player dino
the first bit is technically not right, as the wording is a bit different
it actually says 'selected by management for OLYMPUS relocation and entombment'
Which kinda... yeah. Makes it a bit more confusing lol
Cola canth
o oops
makes me think that standard OLYMPUS is maybe a higher level island, rather than just corporate facility
Olympus transmiter?!?
BUT i do believe both is true:
High level situation
with its own RnD / testing / holding facilities
gone... but not forgotten!
the olympus transmitter twitter acc was a good while back, i wonder if its still canon
idr if it ended before the recode began
just watched a dryo get obliterated in the augustus vid, good lore
lol
transmitter is technically but the account (and its lovely words....) gone
:((
It hasnโt officially released ๐
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i'm not going to post it properly till we get some sort of download or likely actual confirmation on its finalisation + release
was it just mentioned at some point, and thats how we know it exists?
(release in any capacity. Either in-game or in-youtube)
the video?
ye, was it leaked or something?
Dondi showed the video on stream, maybe itโs the full thing.. maybe not..
ooooh gotcha
^
Yeah if the video isnโt released by the time Rex is on Evrima thatโs when we could probably start treating that video as a proper thing..
quite so
unless Don does something cool and puts that and other things into the game
rather than on YouTube
oh so the intruder vid is also the unreleased rex vid?
orrr we drag Don to the streets
lol
to be fair, i think Extras is fine as a name
but why
from what we can gather, yeah
because its extra from the main game
extras kinda generic no?
But you find it in the main game lol
ngl it was kind of a jumpscare to suddenly see a human in the diablo vid, fixing the camera
yeah, and you're accessing the high res version outside of the main game
Name it file recoveries or something, document recoveries, something more unique than โextrasโ
this is true though
yea but STILL
Extras sucks as a name
technically Cerato
the time length of the video actually fits the legnth it mentions...
File recoveries.
(YOU WILL BE SENT STRAIGHT TO TARTARUS AFTER OPENING THIS)
yes
but i think it still works
I wouldn't mind something more thematic
should i open ts?
I might be wrong but isnโt the video like 3 minutes and 50 secondsish
I tried doing the math in my head while checking the video, am I wrong
wah oh spiro
the video is actually just at 3:17
full length
2023 fresh air
https://youtu.be/o4c8oPI8P_0
using Mamivss
#theisle #theisleevrima #evrima #dino #theisle #tyrannosaurusrex #dinosaurgame #dinosaur #gaming #theislegameplay #prehistoricanimal #jurassicworld #theisle #trex #allosaurus #dinosaurgame #Trike #Triceratops #deino #Stego #Giga #Cerato #Giganotosaurus
which starts at the media playback
i will say though
it does seem a bit wrong
the actual production of the video
this length should ONLY be the length of the media playback
Am I going insane I swear itโs 230 seconds
i.e. ONLY the length the AE_Media_Software_Player Slides File (AVI)
And SHOULD end at when the audio visualisation begins
however, it does not mark this
Am I watching Rumples video wrong
^ Mamvis
so you see a weird glitch slide between the actual AE Media Software Player AND the Audio Visualisation
Rumple has more of the intro and i'm starting from the main opening slide "INCIDENT REPORT: ..."
and Mamvis stops right as the glitches end and skips into the main stream
But
Which would technically mean
whoever did the INTRUDER video, it is a bit buggy
potato chip tracking?
there should be a thing between these
and not just meshed glitch
as this is the switch between media player and the audio visualisation
Starting from the incident report slide on Rumples itโs still longer to the end
Iโm so confused help ๐ซ
Starts at 15 seconds in rumples and ends at
4 40
What the hell man
And mamvis is only 3 minutes and 17
How does the math make sense
Am I crazy Isaac
THERES NO WAY IM MISINTERPRETING IT I LOOKED BACK LIKE 7 TIMES ALREADY ๐ญ
just did a side by side
Iโm not even calling you wrong Iโm just trying to figure out why rumple and mamvis have different video lengths
seems like Mamvis skips a tiny bit at the beginning of the first slide
WHY
oh
where it has "VIDEO 01"
as soon as that slide finishes
it pops into the Stegos running, which is wrong
alright
this makes the file length better now
as it actually fits the media player only
which is what it should be (and not the inclusion of the audio visualisation)
Edit: oh discord 
ok guys im kinda lost in this topic๐ฅบ
as the audio visualisation bit (like with the MCAM system and live camera with the AUGUSTUS video) was used by the user
UIIAI SPINO!!!!
modeling every leaf in existence of gateway
doesn't help that he is onto the new video now
lol
i like hes quite a perfectionist but damn dondi
so, realistically
only things i would imagine being fixed (if they do fix anything)
Is the transition between the media playback, the location tag being G and not F
and maybe the finale saying what it had in AUGUSTUS (like external connection closed)
I had intended to reply to this, saying it's a good idea to wait until we have the final version
TYR and TREX too
although, i'm not sure if the OLYMPUS user in INTRUDER had accessed the computer the same way as the OLYMPUS user in the AUGUSTUS video (i.e. 'externally')
So is that 3 minutes and 17 seconds or not
it could be a mistake
but we see the others using 4 digits and not 3
so either its a mistake and now they're all 4 digits
or it depends on the context
yes
as i said, fitting for the media player
TYR is used in the intruder video
if anything, most things i write as an analysis would likely not need to change
probably would only have to add a few lines or two. As i believe we got most / almost all of the whole video
I know
that is why i say such as it might not be a mistake
why
but we see the others using 4 digits and not 3
as the other dinos/SYNTHS get 4 and not 3
STEG / OMNI
whatโฆ
but we see the others using 4 digits and not 3
i.e. we see the other creatures mentioned in the video with 4 digits, instead of 3
STEG.12-S ...
OMNI.12-...
Thatโs the inconsistent part
i know
it might just be this
or it depends on the context
An abbreviated version, and a full title?
that TYR and TREX are used interchangeably
i do believe it could be such
especially as TYR_SYNTH is used (in this situation) for a file
Ugh
but if you look at this
full designation = TYR
so it could be just they're changing it to TREX
Yay inconsistencies
as they're using JNGL for another file
Could it be designations from different time periods?
Organization within companies and facilities may change over time as the employees within change
(4 digits)
Pretty sure thatโs JUNGLE
Referencing the environment the camera is in
this is also something i commented on a few days back
as INTRUDER might be a later rex
But itโs 001 ainโt it
it being version 3.1.2
where was the reference to Intruder, again?
But we donโt know what version Shirley or Dean is right?
aye
they could be also 3.1.2
or maybe not
so it could potentially be a future-sort of new style of abbreviation
or not and its just Dondi changing it
But we know that Intruder is 001 and Shirley is 002 or 3 and Dean is from the same batch as Shirley so itโs fair to assume Intruder came first tbh
(likely because of the Lore timeline bible)
Shirley is 3
potentially
it's weird though
why would we get both low version levels for both Dibble and AUGUSTUS
but high version lvls for INTRUDER
They use TREX for Intruder at the end there, where do they use TYR?
could be because of this? #isle-lore-theories message
/AE/VOCAL_LOG/TYR_SYNTH/RECORDINGS/
@hexed forge
ahh
yeah, right in the middle of the tech jargon
Huh?
Which digit in the version are we talking about
oh and I would change the negative Hz
that cannot exist unless maybe if you look at my long-ish paragraph from yesterday
Augustus is 0.1.2
same with the Dibbles
Ohh the first digit
Hm
just checking
yeah 0.1.2 for Dibbles as well
if anything
could be an indiciation of time passing and more things becoming 'final'
OR
Lore Timeline Bible has changed a few of these things
like giving better meaning to the version meanings
We canโt really say anything on it since we donโt know the version of Shirley and Dean
What if TYR is the Tyrannosaur genus
TREX is more narrow, Tyrannosaurus rex specifically
could be
Whatever it is,
It screws up the older videos consistency, woohoo
well i mean
it would be a bit weird
two videos with Rex in it
one has one with a very low version number
the other has dinos with high version numbers
Wasn't the previous use of TYR also for a call?
Maybe based upon vocalizations they can only know it's a Tyrannosaur, but not specifics
I doubt so
because of this from Dondi #isle-lore-theories message
being that is/was the full designation for Shirley = TYR (with the added bits at the end, like 12-S)
i forgive you
IT HAS 3 DIGITS
Oh and also Intruder has a different location-synth number
if anything, i think this is just another case of The Isle Lore reloring itself every time Dondi re-thinks / re-gathers / re-organises (some) things
ah, true
Yay we love this!!!
the pains of the early access
IF Don puts the older videos into the game, he should rework/just add some slight adjustments so it makes sense with the lore in the future
if not, it must come down to us ๐
TREX.10-S.001 [INTRUDER]
different site number (if we are correct at what the number means)
don't think we ever got a Site 10 in legacy
which is cool
remind me, what do the others have?
12
what rex is the big one and the small one
12-SYNTH
Shirley is the big strong one Dean is the disabled weak one
Site 12
Site 001
Site I-04
from what i can remember
And Intruder is just him
I think Tiny was asking about the asset tags
And Augustus
Sucks that we donโt get to see Intruder
Maybe in the Trike video
And Intruder is a new name right?
No legacy correlation
do you think maybe the Rex Glance sheet is INTRUDER?
Being that it is most likely the first of v3.1.2
potentially
yes
Nah
I think itโs just more plainly Version 3.1.2
With a name like INTRUDER I could see this rex being a roaming male without a set territory, frequently intruding on other rex's established zones
Glance Sheet doesnโt mention Intruder, I feel like it would be in big text
Probably
makes sense for the video
it just coming about at west access and intruding
West access eh
i mean like
having it (INTRUDER) as the prime specimen, artistically
water access !!!!!!
Intruder better learn how to swim if it wants to go to west access
like when peoples go out and find a new species
they draw an artistic rendering of the specimen they saw/captured
not like i know this happens everytime. But if you get my drift
they told me there was land!
all i see is the island above/on/at F5.....
#isle-lore-theories message I Feel Like This is In Conjunction with Reaper's Being Called Reaper's While Still being Gen 1 (i Think)
Intruding on the local giant crab population
Maybe
OH
Maybe the first digit means the amount of times replicated?
Essentially Intruder replicated 3 times
(I think that might be the max in game)
there IS a big sand bar somewhere near h3
Oh my
You just reminded me that the big arch from Spiro is now removed on gateway
๐
It was just a small piece of Spiro on gateway..
it's near water access now
Wait they moved it?
yep
on the beach between water access and north east lake
Lab animals are given version numbers just like those used for video games
I think it's just an extension of that. Perhaps when AE gets something unique entombed like Augustus it updates the version number
I think with these designations Dondi has done his research, because it's very close to what is used in the real world
i doubt
being version number
i believe there would be an actual reference to the amount of replication
rather than the version number having such โ looking at the Dibbles as well
Yeah probably
oh well
hopefully we get some more document-based lore
but hey, i am satisfied with the INTRUDER video
and hopefully its a sign lore content being a bit more regular for us
Rexes anomaly is the paleo accurate sounds?
I wonder if there'll be any tie to that in gameplay (no)
yes
what do you mean
because the paleo calls are supposed to be added soon
The sounds affecting other creatures as mentioned in the video
oh yeah, probably not without being op for Rex
to be fair, none of the behaviours in the lore videos match players
Rex being able to disorient things and make them nauseous 
I don't really see any reason to actually use them other than they're cool...and I believe that is exactly what they are being added for. I think maybe confusing and freaking out your pray with them would work too
I know I'd be tripping balls hearing that
i found it. it's in the middle/lower portion of i4
Heya people, I absolutely don't expect anyone to give me a full rundown of TheIsleTM lore here because that's unreasonable, but is there any sources you know I could go to to read up on it for myself? Or a video someone made?
pinned stuff
go ham <3
hi platymimus!!!
I have not seen you in long time
Oh hey the website is in the style of the lore-vids that's sick
yeah!
i would also recommend Rumple's lore doc
and also a lot of us can 'mostly' answer most of your questions (some questions better than others lol)
He remembers me!!
Heya! It has been a while huh? I've been off for some time because my exchange has been crazy busy
-# just due to the nature of lore being incomplete
i did a double take and had to check if it was really you!
But that sounds cool! I hope your exchange has been good for you
Noted
I won't go into it here given it's a lore-channel but you would not believe how -and I hate the common use of this term so I use it very consciously- life changing it's been
we also got a new lore video, technically speaking
so you have come on a bit of a high time!
we haven't gotten proper hard lore since April last year

The one with the rex's paleocalls?
yeah!
(in the best of ways)
(thats great!)
Yeah it was really interesting, I initially thought it was para
quite so! Some even thought Neuro because of the camera interference fitting in with electromagnetic-aspects
we also have a FIFTEEN-MINUTE-long Trike Lore video apparently being made (in whatever stage of production)
plus UI Overhaul! So things are hopefully looking a little bit more on the bright side
the past year has been pretty painful! Fun convos, but certainly just very painful 
Funny that, I was just asking Wavepoole about what the neuros are because I never really understood their deal
Wait that's cool, when did we learn it's being made?
they're a bit of a strange thing(s)
do you remember the NHJ/zombie event last year? THEY'RE connected to them
In all seriousness though, I do like the direction things are going in!
a few weeks now i believe
definitely, it's getting there! Slowly, but steadily
I didn't know there was an event? Other than the halloween video with the carno unless that was...? Holy sh*tnuggets that was two years ago
I do not remember, no
also lorecord is a thing if you're interested in that
holy crap ithought i was already scrolled all the way down that made me jump
2 years WOW
but they basically reused that zombie idea from that video and put it into game (Don also wrote some lore justifying it)
Which seems very 'make an excuse for them to be in!' sort of situation
but we actually once had legacy lore on a thing called "Neuro Goo" (no official name, but its what we call it)
Which would basically be very bad for you to the point of you having to be killed if you are infected; so its likely a re-shuffling of ideas from that into this "NHJ"
but it was basically an infection event during Halloween last year
Don said it might happen again on Officials
WHWAT
i'll send an invite !
WHENWHO SAID OFFICALLY THE ZOMBIE EVENT IS NEURO TIED
i know zombie neuros but what
explain yourself
Don himself!
our original guess was Tisso related
then Don came in and said no, Neuros
let me find the quote...
WHAT
:O
i think related to that, but wasn't that (in terms of hard confirmation on their relation)
but i think i remember what you're talking about
I am so curious about details, that sounds awesome
#isle-discussion message
here!
lmao do you think salt is bad for neuros
HA
slug coded
(I do wish we got the lore paper revolving around them)
there is this reference though
Don โ 07/01/2025, 07:22
SO basically I spent time inventing agricultural applications of the virus for no good damned reason.
People wanted a simple timeline.
i just want a hard confirmation on what the hell tissos look like its been so so so long
"The Virus"
feels like NHJ. But... Neuros? Zombies? Agriculture? Weird links.
So maybe a different virus
isnt them being small and spikey just like fanlore
(i suppose you could go off the reaper re-design)
lol
forgot about the reaper re-design
i want it scaled next to a normal gen 1
but crazy i forgot about it
lol
mmm true
Pffft
i wonder if Reapers are still supposed to be smaller than their usual counterparts
What's NHJ stand for?
Ah
the N might stand for Neurotenic
which would make sense, due to their connection
the rest though! No clue...
It would be really funny if they just chose 3 letters at random and let the community try to guess until they came up with a cool enough name
And then they just took that one
im so attached to that fanart of the tiny ass tisso spino that looks like a sailfish
That's kind of how I make puzzles in dnd
The coolest solution is the one that works
tapwing fanart best fanart
crazy pull that they hired her i freaked out so hard when that happened
oh boo i cant emoji react people :[
this discord is a prison
Wait she was initially just a fan-artist?
yep!
Awesome
she has really cool stuff out there
pretty sure she made a tisso anky forever ago
idk pretty sure all her work is on her devianart
that or artstation, i believe
lol
this was pointed out by Saranova
but thats definitely a new model, maybe storebought
however, interesting
probably not playable but very interesting.
hmmm
saying that, thought it reminded me of an actual irl CRT
but i was wrong
however
made me refind the IBM PS/2 P70
which i really want to make a fake Isle lore boot up with
I really hope we can get the new UI to have an orange plasma display option
(or just being able to pick whatever colour we want...)
however, i'll likely stick to red anyways
hurt me me eye :(
so bright the red
i hear this a lot
I am lucky i am not affected
but i can see how the contrast can be mean on the eyes
I'm a big fan of the black and white one personally
to be fair ia have whimpy eyes so
oh yes the white one
photosensitivity go brr
around the 1 minute mark (from tiny)
the new ui is so cool
i think the fx makes it easier to see
but i really don't like the logo glow, is a bit too much
omg geeking
honestly, the only thing i do not like is the settings
which seems very rough at the moment
hopefully that is changed
oh the dreams
I really hope so
Olympus Transmitter being found through there and morse codes were just real cool
consistent
^^
omg wait the ui losing color when we switch to like testing versions will so remind me to turn off stupid auto alt bite
the small wins also dumb setting remove it pls
lol
what
even on Evrima UI atm, you can see little flashing lights!
they're more so easter eggs then anything though
but the little radio icon was actually clickable (you can still click on it, but nothing happens)
and would send you to the twitter account for Olympus Transmitter!
Should it be diabloceratops dispersal, and not disperal?.......
I'm losing it
right above it is the right one
another mistake!!
who wants to hear my hot take on tisso camo???
-# totally havent posted b4
YEAH I SAW IT AND NOW I'M LOSING IT ๐ญ
yay
oh
yes or no sir :p
yes yay
yay
https://gyazo.com/b1ec604c915a94d396d345dba06f005a
the isle lore is over
dondi spelt possess wrong in ERRANT-291
HELP
Tisso camo idea:
Responsive pattern technology (RPT) camouflage
This means that while active the user is virtually invisible to a single target unless moving from one environment to another extremely quickly or a quick bright light flashes (like lightening) against it
The best way to notice said users would be to be in groups of which because of how the camo works actually doesnt camouflage the user as well making them much more noticeable
Idk how this can be implemented but its a very cool concept to me!! Making the main gimmick of Tissos being to essentially punish any solo player with being able to ambush like crazy on them
But its main weakness would be groups of multiple players essentially leaning it into the role of asassain, hypos being brawlers/tanks and neuros being kind of like support in its own way if ykwim
Lmk ur thoughts!!!
Joever
H12 has to be a mistake right
OKAY THAT MAP-
that is so peak
Hi Lightclaw
exactly
agreed
hi daviid
hmm, interesting
I am unsure honestly
Human flashlights would def reveal it
It is a little funny the way Hyper/Neuro/Tisso kinda fall into Warrior/Mage/Rogue classes
tbh these are archetypes that can be applied to pretty much anything
Brawn, Brain, Finesse
"You're a neurotenic Harry"
The three forms of problem-solving
Whoโs ready for hyper cerato
You're not going to believe what the isle was going to be!
jk, i know you know
Do tell
Because they were related before
ik
Nooo you did not get my anti-joke
Asif, I didn't know you know, but you do, indeed, know
I hate your opinion
If you know you know
too bad my friend is red green colorblind so his ui color options are blue, white, grey and grey
maybe more options will come eventually
color wheel will be nice
you must be fun at parties ๐
I am, thank you ๐
OMG NO OMG OMG YOU JUST
AAAHGGGG THE MEMORIES, THEY FLOOD
was that the iOS game where you fought a rex on the moon
I take back my word about your opinion
Yes
And giant apes and things with miniguns
And have pets
Anyways
Lore
Same dev but mostly yea lol
Mythical ball knowledge requirement
Yea
Yes but not as much as say a big spotlight yk???
Any extremely bright lights would reveal it immediately, if its say sprinting extremely quickly through constantly changing terrain then the camo will struggle to keep up so u will be able to see like almost what seems to be a glitch in the game yk?? The wrong background in the wrong place thats constantly moving
Itll very much be quite op
Also i think Herbies should also get justice for strains, itd be absolutely horrifying to see a herbi become carnivourus as a strain and js massacring other herbis
Like imagine a Tisso stego, razor sharp dorsal plates and thagomisers just appearing out of camo to murder an unsuspecting Rex
Or a hypo stego just full charging a herd of herbis and js massacring them
Thatd be so much scarier than a strain carni, ofc they would still be scary but to see a herbi eat meat?? Thats wayyyyy scarier to me
Agreed
oh
I dont like the weird computer screen effect
Idk how to describe it,
The one where it makes your screen look dirty and nasty
The screen dirt basically
It is weird
It feels like trying to play with the legacy idea of the UI being an old accessed computer
But i feel like it is too contrasty and not really fitting
it doesnt fit
Yeah
I don't think the UI really screams looking into a real monitor glass
And even then
If we look at reference pictures of worn and weathered CRTs, it is pretty hard to find one with very glaring monitor scratches and 'dirt'.
the matriarch!!!!
oh my
My oh my
quite so
Quite so quite
any of you guys have a decently high res pic of Ben? gonna make my channel banner them finally
maybe the real ben was inside us all along
wait no i i take that back
scratch that one sorry
standard Ben, Ben?
Iโll take any tbh. Standards good if you got it
Those are 2 contradicting statements but yeah
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1005361244435382272/BenCannon_by_Sevra.png?ex=68e55b5f&is=68e409df&hm=23af7919e01171cc6961a3d982648aa5c00ed191b49a40befe8c7fb8e6bb7e48
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1005361138587947048/4A964B19-DC2B-4750-AD3F-B7DB8CE09AFC.jpg?ex=68e55b46&is=68e409c6&hm=886eef4e243d5fee278a3b8cf94a248ed30b2c602fd830d2210c512d2c368e49
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1005361088805740554/IMG_9646.jpg?ex=68e55b3a&is=68e409ba&hm=7444635b2c27feae51eaf7c4525ac9ef823e36b259593652185b3f4835699607
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1230429103971110972/sky_dilo.png?ex=68e572a6&is=68e42126&hm=27ad5c948c85941b88054d5500951f90864328a79f82da7f1a9924ad95a259f1
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1224480563503824906/Picsart_23-12-23_21-20-56-390.png?ex=68e58f64&is=68e43de4&hm=315bd4587782ba11e976bc1abf46b4f29e09f58ed4a4eba5f9c609df8f726f54&
Some of Ben and Varibents
hope this helps
Benjamin
quite so
How do I shoot a prime dar in the crocodile?
skibidi
Thanks ๐ซก
it looks like ben has a ribcage in its thighs
You look like you have a ribcage in your thighs
Spitting dilo looks scary
That's Ben
She's great
The lore is crazy
Dilo being able to spit to envenomate or otherwise blind would be horrifying
I wonder what guns are gonna be stored in the armories.
Prob ones that shoot
Why would someone store a gun in an armory ?
Shouldn't they be used for putting armors instead ?
I meant gun models. Remington 870 for example.
Ik i was messing ya
Ah
Are you crazy
It's a place to store arms ๐ช
Hands and arms...
why is this video not dead...
Ah of course
I am so stupid
I love that song.
To be honest, I would probably use a shotgun and the pistol. Those would probably be the most reliable.
why should it be?
because i made it, and i hate it
Guys do anyone remember that you would get a very heavy static effect on your camera once getting close to an human building in legacy? has anyone even got an explication for that?
Itโs probably something that would keep dinosaurs away from human buildings since the players would be EIPs in Legacy
yeah, that may explain it, wish it got more discussion back in the day
Heck that makes me consider something. The static implies there's a technological element to the dinos that get released. But what about nested? Those are purely biological.... right?
So is an EIP biological? How does THAT function?
yeah Wild-Born Dinosaurs aren't EIPs iirc,
Or at least they dont have trackers.
Not sure on how the lore-aspect works with the gameplay tho.
Sick
so whats the lore behind the hypo giga calls in the ambience
So, what is the lore we got down?,
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isleโs Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
Canโt wait for when neuro evrima spino jumpscares people at night
its similar, but not the same
It is similar
Cola canth
Beipsi Java
Yummy
Lore woohooo!
Ah yes, a canned coffee brand subsidiary owned by Apollo Engineering.
Ginger Allo
You know what would be cool? If they referenced pue in the lore at some point
Gone but not forgotten
Like maybe AE tried to create pue first then switched to brachi for some reason
this
rip pue
you will not be missed
(brachi on top)
Wonder if another corporation made the weapons that are on the Island.
Probably just another Apollo Subsidiary, Apollo seems to keep it in the family so to speak seeing as how even the Cranes in the port are from Apollo
Yea, considering it sounds like the dinosaurs aren't public knowledge.
With all honesty we don't really know
Ah
Insert replicator shrine paintings
I 100% see Gen 1's forming their own entire belief systems around the replicator
why
Wasn't that confirmed already?
I thought it was legacy lore
To be fair he also followed it up with this
You also have the ship of Thesus scenario even if that is correct lol
That and the show 90 hide 10 percent
What does the public know?
I suppose maybe we'll see
I mean...
Is Beipsi Java limited to AE islands only.. or is it an international drink...
probably not really/fully realised because the two (Cola Canth and Beipsi Java) were Punch puns
But yeah! Seems a bit too expensive to make custom drinks just for AE facilities
but then again, maybe they just have THAT much income (because, they must be getting a lot of money to afford or even to have loan for projects such as The Atrium)
where that amount of income just means they need to have some sort of tax ride off
which comes in the forms of many things: Building a giant concrete dome, forming a drinks company (whether they make new drinks or just use pre-existing soda formulas, and have the legal right to distribute within their facilities under seperate thematic names)
yeah
I'd guess that it's just a silly thing for players, not a lore thing
we have to take into account for everything!!
I say that as a joke
but i do remember this quote, just had to make sure
There is legitimate vending machines and in-universe drink(s). I wish I was joking but someone made a passing comment that (over time) became a running joke that got developed so.
But i do believe you could justify in-lore for the vending machines
both for if Dinos are or are not known
but...
didn't they make models of them and we see them in one of the GUTS hubs..?
Cola Canth and Beipsi Java are the only thing we've seen
we're yet to see the actual cans yet
but apparently there are some
i see
What you guys think of the influx of new buildings? do you guys think thier are gonna be alot of little lore easter eggs in them?
besides having the new vending machines
the chance of getting lore / easter eggs is quite likely very much a no
the only thing we'd likely get is the glance sheets
but when? Who knows
Last heard about them was for the Hubs (GUTS)
which... yeah... GUTS....
dam aint letting me down lightly xD

it is ok
gone before it even got to really exist
it will come back!!! soon...
๐ค๐ป
in a world where ben is canon we are really looking down on the beipsi java?
INFIDELS 
What does beipsi java taste like
Honestly, knowing AEโs Roots In Botany probably Really Dang Good
Id like 20 of them please ๐ฐ
yummy
hi dreadwolf
hear me out deinocheirus is just 100 beipis acting like a deinocheirus. big lore right here
Beipi IS deinocheirus
there is no deinocheirus there is no gigantoraptor and there is no therizinosaurus
I think because of the Dino outbreak
Unknown
probably this
in most of the offices you can see alot of boxes and stuff scattered about, seems they left in a hurry
<@&505047238674874368> im stuck on a rock
/unstuck and wrong chat.
What dino outbreak
Theres no evidence of one big dino outbreak
Comments from don suggest that it wasn't a single event that led to the downfall of AE on the islands. We don't even know if they still retain control of some territory, or if the company has collapsed entirely
Is this lore
sorry catag...
If anything docks would make sense to be the main point of operations
You have concrete walls and a very easily good positions to fight from if need be plus supply
Lines can come
The new semiaquatic facility though, you only have 4 spots to guard from because they have to go through the pathways over the pens or by the coat
that is if they are expecting a battle
i do not think it is feasible for AE to expect warfare with Gateway
being a practically fully beached island
You can only really have one point of operation on the island then, realistically
or at least, one main operating facility
however, i do not think this is the case
and why, depending on the context of why no AE on island(s), AE may have had lost control easier
Ernie's performs Merle Travis's timeless anthem to the working man Sixteen Tons on The Ford Show, October 18, 1956. This was the first time he performed this blockbuster hit on his show - the third episode of The Ford Show.
Tennessee Ernie Ford wasnโt the first artist to record โSixteen Tons,โ but he made it his signature. The song, inspi...
It's fun to think about AE when listening to these lyrics
I'll listen to it now!
For context, he's singing about people working in company towns - everything you buy is from your employer, your clothes and rent and all that is owed to the company. But you'd work and work and your debt only climbed higher, a system built to essentially enslave people
Oh wow I have not heard this in a long time
A thousand lives you owe us
Honestly, that really feels thematic
Honestly once we get cama I want to make a short with this song and cama in it 
The isle horrifying parasite when
Isn't that what the average isle player is? 
it is ok
but this is the isle lore
Cooking man keep spreading the word
lore oh yeah
Hi daviid
Hi lightclaw
whats new lore people
THE ISLE
what if taylors new album has something to do with the isle ?
!!
i didn't have this saved before, weirdly
sorry tiny. I was looking for it a week ago or so
but yeah.
yay
very interesting discussions on INTRUDER 'recently' in lorecord
I think we might've gotten down to possibly two seperate ideas on whatever atavism is inferring with INTRUDER
and Iterative Mutation
maybe
thanks
Youre welcome
<@&933486433342222376>
Oh
Is that you?
yes
Are the ruins on R2 lore?
no
we definitely need worker villages
like in AE-001
but more isle and less marketplace lol
Less marketplace ๐ฏ
yay
Raptor rush when
