isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

i think it was, most definitely

likely them trying to test it out

but... a long time ago now...
especially seeing as it is not a main priority (over stuff like doing the lore videos / normal videos and lore sheets)

[echo gazelle]

Ye, back to waiting

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/saul-smoking-sad-saul-goodman-breaking-bad-smoking-sad-gif-17031363217318139691

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/gjirlfriend-gif-14457952604098199169

[acoustic osprey]

soon! soon

[frozen totem]

™

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge

basically findable lore that happens when you fit the right time the right species and location

[hexed forge]

What lore would that be?

I can’t think of anything other than Ambience

[acoustic osprey]

more so that that moment was likely a test of a system

but it was something Dondi discussed in doing

an interesting idea
but as Don said, wasn't (at the time and likely not even is now) a priority over actual lore videos and documents

[hexed forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

For me, I like the idea
Locking it to a bit of complexity is a really cool aspect

Although I'd make it so it replicates lore moments

Example-

You play as a Gen1 (or 2, depends...)
You go to GUTS, then you go pass a specific spot without realising (near a Hub)
At a certain time... specifically whenever "SEVEN Minutes after SHIFT is..." (you can see where this is going)

From there you unlock something, maybe a little sound byte of maybe a man dying. But you cannot see anything

You finish your game

You come back a day or two, however long, later and go to the main menu. Maybe some more plays sending you to a YouTube video OR (depending on how different the UI overhaul will affect the main menu) you open a video panel

Then you see it
Video Evidence File 291-A

[hexed forge]

That would be fun

[acoustic osprey]

Mmm quite so

[hallow ruin]

dude i miss this
I recreated the skin and for now, i met 5 isle nerds and non of them recognize it

WAIT WHAT
WHATS THAT

is that a brachi or smth?

sorry but saphir is a little bit crazy

she thought that's music

[acoustic osprey]

What do you mean

[acoustic osprey]

Likely no

But definitely is an activated sound

[hallow ruin]

dondi streams had a cool pale trodoon skin
i assume is the one that was meant to be default but got changed

[acoustic osprey]

ahh yeah yeah

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/phdpookiemark-pookie-bookie-monkey-stan-twitter-gif-7774298586098535413

[acoustic osprey]

it is interesting to see how inferred it was that it was something special/unique, though

shame we likely won't ever know what the true intention was

not specifically the sound itself, but the idea of the system behind it

[hallow rover]

id forgotten about this mystery and now you've reminded me about it its bugging me again

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[hexed forge]

Another amazing mechanic that was mentioned and now never heard from again? 😔

[hallow ruin]

[hallow ruin]

...

[hallow ruin]

yeah like, wth even is that

[hallow ruin]

😔

[hexed forge]

Si

[hallow ruin]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

I have hope we'll likely to see maybe the new main menu

Or something UI related this dblog

[snow jasper]

i'll hold you up to that bet, if I could bet

[acoustic osprey]

quite so
we are close... oh so close...

[snow jasper]

i had not seen that till now, now my bet seems fruitless

or so it would have been

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if they'd delay it for 10th anniversary
or for main branch

or just bring it out when it is ready

of course, we'll have to wait for Elders to be done

MAYBE we'll get Elders and UI overhaul together? Didn't really of the quote like that but that could be the case if all goes well

[snow jasper]

sounds delicious

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-idk-i-dont-know-no-idea-better-call-saul-gif-12761072

[muted reef]

Been waiting for that UI update

Remember when there was talk of it a full year ago?

https://tenor.com/view/doomer-looking-out-snowy-depression-sadness-gif-4679444331089506540

[fallen estuary]

bryan hire me

[lethal moat]

Plz

[low scarab]

That would be quite peak

[low scarab]

Hot take the computer themed ui isn’t my favorite

[acoustic osprey]

Good signs!!
Good signs 🙏

[hexed forge]

I hope it doesn’t go down the route of this layout

It’s pretty bad imo

The other layout was much better

[low scarab]

Thank you…

I would much prefer an updated 3d ui layout

[hexed forge]

3D?

[low scarab]

Not necessarily 3d

But like the current/legacy layout where it’s got some depth to it

Yk your looking at the ui and buttons from a computer screen

[hexed forge]

Eh

I like both, I wouldn’t mind either

Just not that specific one, it looks ugly

[low scarab]

What do you mean not that specific one?

What other one are you talking abt

[low scarab]

Ah

I look at them the same honestly

[acoustic osprey]

True
I like this one

I think it is interesting though

That we're getting an old UI format
But without any old aesthetic to it

It is quite something

I like it
But I wonder what it would look like if it was a bit aesthetic-ised

[acoustic osprey]

I do like that one old legacy 3D Main Menu with the human building in the dark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dvOwsQ_g6o
here this one

gives very 2014 video game-vibes to it

if Isle was an Indie Game Singleplayer Survival
I would honestly have it like this, at least- inspired by the idea of the 3D environment

probably without the old Legacy UI on the side

[acoustic osprey]

Danwdi!

[fallen estuary]

me = hired? new cool isle lore videos.

[fallen estuary]

i love this one btw

[acoustic osprey]

does make me think though
if Don needs to hire more people or not

Last i heard, Seiza was studying
So she has been busy

although that could be false? I need to learn my german

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1387677712877092984/JohnMogCake.gif

[fallen estuary]

hi don. hire me so i can make lore videos

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1387898118774853673/John_Cake_Prowler.gif

[acoustic osprey]

woah

[barren ruin]

any new lore gems in my absense?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

nothing really
Besides we got some new plant strains, if you didn't seem them last dblog

[barren ruin]

sadge 😦 got preoccupied for a while and couldnt keep myself busy with the isle

pretty sure not dropping lore for this long is against the geneva convention

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068332886077490/1147340341381435564/sSuWPNtJ.gif

[barren ruin]

hahaha

its almost like you could make a 3 hour documentary on the isle lore, and then a new branch opens up and its all retconned or schrodingers-canon

[carmine sail]

Welp, wanted to play scavenger Cerato but instead nested in 8 kids

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel

[acoustic osprey]

so.
Instead of doing AUGUSTUS stuff

i've kinda just started my ERRANT-291 idea

lol

don't know what i'm on, but i decided to foley all the sound effects 🫠

by reusing Isle sounds

including some non-isle stuff

[plush widget]

Sickkk

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks!!

[gentle crescent]

this would still run like 100 fps max at 100% utilization

knowing the devs, i mean

[hexed forge]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

my idea... is coming...

[hexed forge]

Yay

[fallen estuary]

i can edit the footage for you

[acoustic osprey]

no don't worry, it should be all good

all the sounds are actually done in post
the footage itself is fine though, nothing needed in terms of visual stuff

it might seem in bad faith as it is based off what Don has shown

but
I am more so doing it to improve my abilities on DaVinci

because i needed to update my revolving globe

[acoustic osprey]

actually i'll delete this one and send one that is a tiny bit more done

this has a tad bit more with a bit of sfx

i want this to then transition into a custom "Extra" section, which might have some sort of beeping indication that they have been given something

after that
then it should be just the actual recording of 291-A

then done

and i can be happy (and continue my AUGUSTUS video)

[hexed forge]

Really nice

[low scarab]

Yea yea I like this as well

But personally I loved the security panel type of menu

[low scarab]

True true

[low scarab]

Yes

[hallow rover]

i keep seeing these vids of humans are they reenabled on officials now?

[hexed forge]

No, only unofficials

[hallow rover]

👍

[frozen totem]

bro quit after hearing that sht 😭

[fast forge]

Petits just enabled them recently, and they are the most popular unofficial server, so a number of youtubers have played gen 2 recently

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

fair

i think, if anything, i wouldn't mind a 3D interactive one
that had a hybrid of 3D and 2D elements

[acoustic osprey]

about halfway now

[brazen cradle]

Isaac, question

[acoustic osprey]

Extras will open up to a new UI section
Then will 'open' 291-A file

i'm thinking of having it similar to what we saw with file opening in AUGUSTUS

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

[brazen cradle]

Is the "Dinosaurs with human minds implanted" theory back?

I saw people talk about it some time ago

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, it wasn't a theory

it was proper lore

That being
EIPs

[brazen cradle]

Well, is it back in Evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

EIPs are back
but Dinosaur Profiles? (EIPs meaning Embryo Intelligence Profiles, based off your steam profile)

who knows...
if anything, it could just be with Gen2s and/or Gen1s

[brazen cradle]

I see, well then

[acoustic osprey]

and/OR could just be with SYNTH dinosaurs

that being, properly machine-made creatures
i.e. Shirley and AUGUSTUS

potentially

[brazen cradle]

What was said to "confirm" EIPs for Evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

but wouldn't that interfere with the validity of proper scientific tests? maybe

[acoustic osprey]

the dawndi
sadly, no proper hard lore saying such

we're just not there yet 🫠

although, biotrace could be related to such

which we saw with the ERRANT-291 document(s)

[brazen cradle]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

EIPs/Profiles are held in TOMB
which is a subsystem of The Replicator

things we'll properly get better info and discussion on in the future...

but yeah. Sadly.
Having to rely on what Don has said

[brazen cradle]

Is the Lorecord still up?

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, still running full and through

do you want an invite

[brazen cradle]

Yes.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-in-hot-a-minecraft-movie-minecraft-minecraft-movie-steve-gif-12012645769871785617

[acoustic osprey]

likely something like this for the main menu effects
don't wanna just keep it bland

oh i forgot how powerful halation is with red

[hexed forge]

Coming together nicely

[acoustic osprey]

thanks!

this is without the halation

[hexed forge]

I prefer the one without

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, same
i think the other one is a bit too much

[hexed forge]

Yeha

[acoustic osprey]

i'll have to go now 😔
I wanted to do this earlier in the day but i woke up late woohoo

but i want to get this done by tonight

honestly
might turn this into a proper video

heck, it is my time for a proper The Isle Discussion YouTube Video yay
I am now Orni i think

but i'll have to think about it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gorilla-reaction-gorilla-shocked-appauled-eating-pepper-gif-2230596277954293584

uh oh

Don't go down that cursed path!!!

[brazen cradle]

I like the sounds. But I WOULD prefer the click clack

[acoustic osprey]

Fair fair

[brazen cradle]

Also, what is Halation?

[acoustic osprey]

Old film effect

Adds a soft glow to the edges of things

Typically red

[fast forge]

I want to make a video about strains

But I gotta wait for next devblob

The last two had new strain stuff, so I want to see if the next one will too before I put any time into it

[acoustic osprey]

nice

i have been wondering when you were gonna do another video

[fast forge]

I've had outlines, but they are big video concepts that take a lot of work
Just getting a real start is daunting sometimes

[acoustic osprey]

fair honestly

[muted reef]

Imagine how Apollo started

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/afdf-pineapple-suddenly-pineapples-gif-15513205

[gaunt dawn]

Maybe 1s and 0s

10001010101010101010

[acoustic osprey]

�

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[rare wadi]

Is there like official plans for other islands?

or mainlands

ik the main map for legacy is a mainland area of sorts?

just a bunch of pine trees...

[lethal moat]

More maps yes, mainland I doubt

[rare wadi]

fenced in mainland?

idk the whole idea of the isle but i just thought it'd be cool if they gained a large revenue for their military operations off a dinosaur zoo on the coast of a mainland. or multiple zoo's.

[acoustic osprey]

we know of one more officially, in terms of lore

[lethal moat]

Dinos aren’t military related

[acoustic osprey]

but we're likely not to get it (The Reserve)

so it is likely we'll get some more maps

[rare wadi]

I know the dinosaurs werent made for the military but isnt the research going towards the big brutish hybrids and strains?

[lethal moat]

Thats medical adjacent

[acoustic osprey]

I would like a mainland map though
i find it more interesting, in terms of within fantasy

[rare wadi]

Just seems like a waste of animal assets. You recreate dinosaurs for what purpose?

Could make a fortune off-

[acoustic osprey]

apparently we know-

[rare wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/there-it-is-point-jurassic-park-john-hammond-gif-22069939

[acoustic osprey]

🫠

we know the answer
just don't make us recall what it is

[rare wadi]

thought it was all theories- was the answer found recently or smth

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

As close as we’ve gotten to my knowledge

[acoustic osprey]

WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

[rare wadi]

yeah thats what i thought the leading theory was

[acoustic osprey]

but Don went through our podcast
and said we knew the answer already, why were we asking about it

this was sometime last year iirc

[rare wadi]

So the leading theory is just.
"Lets repopulate the world with dinosaurs because the current enviroment is collapsing"?

wait it kinda makes sense...

Reptiles would thrive in a warmer climate, is that why there are these... modified humans?

[acoustic osprey]

if anything though

the theory also works strongly (more so, imo) with Plants as well

although why pick Dinosaurs over any other creature/family/etc?

[rare wadi]

i was gonna ask about the weird bright green vines on buildings, not now though.

[acoustic osprey]

just wait till we get the strain variant...

https://tenor.com/view/muppets-muppet-show-dr-teeth-piano-vines-gif-17015481638665871605

[rare wadi]

I did see the concept art- Got confused-

But anyway, the dinosaurs arn't true dinosaurs are they, their a mix of different species to look like a dinosaur?

Is everything just a morphed gecko?

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

it really could go anyway, depending on how sophiscated but what 'angle' Dondi wants to direct spieces creation

[frozen totem]

Ok... That's just Ark

[rare wadi]

humans didnt create dinosaurs to repopulate the world in ark.

[frozen totem]

Yeah they did..

[rare wadi]

the overseer's did as it was searching for the perfect balance of flora and fauna

[frozen totem]

No, humans made them first

They just ised the overseers to maintain the arks

So that they could eventually repopulate the planet

[rare wadi]

The overseer's created the wyverns and reapers. they made every dinosaur

[frozen totem]

They remade them after humans set it into place

[rare wadi]

The entire ARK network was set up so that after the 'extinction' event life could return

not to replace life on earth

[frozen totem]

You can clearly see that the extinct animals existed on earth though, just look at the Extinction map

**Wait this isnt the isle lore **

[strange shell]

According to some people The Isle is turning into Ark so it kinda is

[frozen totem]

Those people also think humans will ruin the game

[strange shell]

The extreme discrepancy between Ark's lore and Ark's gameplay is extremely funny to me tho
It's the usual gameplay vs lore meme, but cranked up to 11
Ark lore : extremely complex, with humans playing God and extinction events (I don't actually know the lore)
Ark gameplay : Deformed monster of a man wearing trunks shoving berries up an unconscious dino's butt

[frozen totem]

Yeah pretty much

Oh and don't forget spiritual demigod like states of humans

Which I think can be overseers?

[rare wadi]

The homo-deus cant be overseer's but they have higher clearance than the overseer's

so i mean technically? But its kinda their job to oversee not the homo-deus

Literally just ascended humans.

they arn't exactly gods either just floating and translucent... yeah okay gods.

[frozen totem]

Eh

[clever vigil]

Is the isle in the same universe as Primal Carnage?

[muted hill]

no, at one point they were going to be linked but thats long gone

[hexed forge]

^

[muted reef]

You can see hints of it in the Hope trailer

[hexed forge]

Carnage Comes Home

[hallow rover]

would love to see how it turned out in the alternate universe where it happened

[muted reef]

This is why we need "The Isle Legacy: What Could Have Been" as an essay video or a podcast

Weird creation chatgpt gave me when I told it to color the concept art

[primal crater]

why would you disrespect tapwings art like that

[muted reef]

I wanted my pfp to have color but it gave me that

[primal crater]

so you fed her art to an ai for it to steal because you wanted it colored

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-gif-4778600627880480619

no thats fine i guess

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/blank-stare-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-dead-inside-gif-25853869

[hallow ruin]

catag wth. using AI for isle lore?

[hallow ruin]

i dont respect you anymore. at all

[muted reef]

Hey I was gonna see what it looked like

The replicator is AI and that's lore

[hallow ruin]

no excuses

[hallow ruin]

Replicator is a private AI
like how AI currently is existing from 90s but gatekeeped by the US goverment or smth

wait

is replicator free to use or AE only...

as of open source and learns from multiple places... or AE made it and use it internally

[lethal moat]

I imagine the replicator is privatized by AE

[low scarab]

I would totally back this

[acoustic osprey]

We have alternative skin style concept art....

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mushu-mulan-dishonor-shame-gif-11143467

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

[dusk hearth]

HIIII

Hey Isaac why can I not usually see this chat I wanna be in here more

[acoustic osprey]

@dusk hearth
There is basically two pathways you can take when/if you want to go down the Isle Lore :

One being a very natural way
the other being a breakdown way

Natural way is basically a slower way of breakdown,
being that you, Padre, would basically go over each Official Isle Lore Video and piece of physical lore (atm, basically just the ERRANT-291 documents and the dinosaur glance sheets)

The breakdown way ignores that, and basically says
Read the pinned document by Rumple (pinned messages of this channel)
And, if you want, watching some of "Lightclaws" lore breakdown youtube videos

but
I would heavily implore you to ask questions

because some things are just not easily agiven from these two pathways
that being because something may come from old lore (legacy lore) or a quote given by Dondi about Evrima lore

which cannot be easily documented

yay

[dusk hearth]

Gotcha

[dusk hearth]

Can you link me the first video of the series

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc1QNXK_XOM
there are a few more before this, but they're only TCAM videos
and are likely not true lore atm

but you basically wanna start with AUGUSTUS in terms of video

[dusk hearth]

Ok so watch this

And then go down the line?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message

and ERRANT-291 in terms of document stuff

[acoustic osprey]

lastly should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OzCCQISKtQ

there is a follow up video to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWrAPh9DV3w

but doesn't add much

as it was a reward to us

for finding "X" Lore object ||the broken TCAM from the File Recovery video||

[torpid roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=68643a81&is=6862e901&hm=a4e18f1a5e5056dffaa875a5fc89d2a6a3254483e43116eca06ec0bc80e3883d& did we figure smth about this?

[acoustic osprey]

albeit, didn't add much to lore though (the b video)

[torpid roost]

or just teories

[acoustic osprey]

only theories...

we don't really have anything lore-wise to prove where that place is

[fast forge]

(Note: He's giving you the most important videos, but there are older ones that are mostly trailcam footage of dinosaurs being dinosaurs)

[torpid roost]

when was the last time don told us anything

[torpid roost]

idk if i lost smth

[dusk hearth]

Why am I looking at dibbles over and over am I supposed to deduct something? Or is this you doing like a immersion thing

[acoustic osprey]

however, i am making a video
which is basically going to canonise it in my head canon

being that, i want that video to be used as a reference guide for how i kinda want TSL (time, species, location)-type lore to be found/done

[fast forge]

nothing concrete
just ideas
I personally want to connect the "Zeus", "Hades", and "Poseidon" entries to locations on Gateway

[acoustic osprey]

let me take you over to lorecord
you'll find that, in the video, there are a few glitch segments which contain hidden lore

[fast forge]

mostly just a teaser for dibbles
but it also had hidden lore stuff

[acoustic osprey]

from there
you can look at the #official-documents channel

which is basically where we compile all the documents given to us in lore
about 50% of them are remade from the videos

[dusk hearth]

Ahh ok

[acoustic osprey]

yay!!

[dusk hearth]

Woohooo

[acoustic osprey]

#1174038101551751228 message
make sure to react to this though

to be able to see the channels

[fast forge]

So when that dibble video came out last year, we dissected it completely

[acoustic osprey]

at least in terms of ripping everything out from the glitched segments, pretty much
I wouldn't be surprised if we missed some analysis or something akin...

basically happened with AUGUSTUS and ERRANT-291

always good to look back at them

definitely has helped with those ones

[fast forge]

yeah but I was around for this one

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068332886077490/1147340341381435564/sSuWPNtJ.gif

[torpid roost]

i hope hades is the entrie of tartarus

as it can be described as hell for someones

[dusk hearth]

Wow I’m slow

[acoustic osprey]

i forgive you

[low scarab]

Very cool

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

not finished though...

[acoustic osprey]

it's going to be more video like soon

once i finish the whole UI segment of it

[low scarab]

Ok ok cool

Look forward to seeing it

[acoustic osprey]

thanks!

[hexed forge]

Devblog.. soon...

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

What are everyone's predictions for the devblog lore-wise?

[acoustic osprey]

UI

also explanation on what Vis was working on

likely either more stuff on LAB IX, maybe more GUTS tunnel stuff or a new Hub?

[low scarab]

Really hoping for ui

And tap concepts for human structures

But what I actually expect in the devblog is guts stuff and smth about Rex

[hexed forge]

Yeah Im definitely expecting GUTS stuff, not sure about UI, I feel like they are trying to keep it secret? Perhaps...

[acoustic osprey]

yeah quite so

i mean
we got to see concepts

but like... the final product? We're likely not going to see it till once Elders are in
either during or after

however you take the quote by Don

[royal mango]

My secret prediction is that they're trying to release Elders, or at least a start to them, with rex and mayhaps allo

[hexed forge]

They are most definitely saving UI and Elders for the 10th anniversary imo

[royal mango]

Didn't that just pass?

[acoustic osprey]

5th anniversary of Evrima, not The Isle (in terms of what just passed)

[royal mango]

Mm, right, that's right!

[acoustic osprey]

The Isle 10th is in December

[hexed forge]

December 5th or 6th I believe

[acoustic osprey]

2nd

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

or 1st if you're american, i think

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah it’s 1st

[acoustic osprey]

but came out locally 2nd for the cooler side of the world

[torpid roost]

more plant strains

maybe new human buildings content

[dusk hearth]

Is this game supposed to be a horror game

[hexed forge]

It's supposed to have horror elements yes

[acoustic osprey]

technically yeah

The Isle is intended to be a gritty, open-world survival horror game. Explore vast landscapes of dense forest and open plains, traverse treacherous mountains and wade through dark swamps where horrors lurk. Hidden within are ruins that hold insight as to what came before. Through it all, keep in mind there is only one goal: survive.

[dusk hearth]

Ahh ok cuz I’m getting creepy horror vibes from the video but no scary stuff

Ig that’s where the matriarch comes in

[lethal moat]

The end is never

[dusk hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-game-the-end-is-never-the-end-loop-ultra-deluxe-gif-23996323

[lethal moat]

Honestly, indefinite undeath is probably the spookiest part of isle lore to me

[dusk hearth]

I don’t understand where that came from so I’m just gonna chalk it up to spoilers and I’ll get there later

[lethal moat]

Especially if those that sign the contract aren’t kept up to date how far they are into it

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, we've gotten no true scary stuff for lore tbf

mostly just creepy

who knows though
we might get more full on horror videos on future

[dusk hearth]

In USGX-9921-C578 what’s the thing that walks up behind the camera

[hexed forge]

Allosaurus

[acoustic osprey]

the mighty allosaurus

[hexed forge]

yup

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

yeah no problem

[royal mango]

Literally the plot of a MapleStory class Sign away memories and years of your life, but are eternally lied to about how long you've served

[lethal moat]

“Live every life like it’s your last.”
-The person trying to sell you functional immortality

[hexed forge]

No

[acoustic osprey]

YOOOOO

i was curious on what that big thing in the middle was but... oh my

incinerator room!

[hexed forge]

Woah

[acoustic osprey]

Dinosaur holding and study needed a specialized prop and cage to ensure it follows closely on our concept designs by Tapwing, as well as a necropsy room that I’m sure you’ve all seen a certain deceased neurotenic in.

my immediate thought lol

[hexed forge]

Why would they need that!!!

[hexed forge]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pirómano-meme-jeje-odio-bomberos-gif-15722930

this looks sick

[acoustic osprey]

observation rooms

observation... of what 👁️

[echo gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-laughing-hilarious-comical-amusing-gif-12922196

[muted reef]

Damn GUTS is looking sick

There's gonna be so much stuff

Now...monorails?

[acoustic osprey]

ha

[errant owl]

shant... so beautiful

[muted reef]

That's not very isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

i am curious if these rooms are for LAB IX
or just standard modules for the moment till Jace sets them up in Gateway (and Don has a place for them)

[frozen totem]

Bye bye off to tartarus you go

[hexed forge]

I’m guessing that they are just standard modules

[acoustic osprey]

although looking at it, the first room seems very makeshift

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Either way they are all great

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

i am curious if they want to go the bleak grey design for all lab modules though

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232022757642251/1347235501790461962/Harbor_Master_Int_Concept.png?ex=68640456&is=6862b2d6&hm=7bd184d69ecce40c21f2e8fcda0a37ddcf89c1f66c338d4c544c6de0959c3796&
a concept art for the Habor Master

but it does seem like having that same greyish tone to it

although please devs 🙏
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232022757642251/1347236152092135555/IMG_6623.png?ex=686404f1&is=6862b371&hm=65ca634418f4ffa6a7e60cf9d666b6847fb14b1eb8704a2e13849f2960212799&

don't forgot the green

[hexed forge]

I do want to see some completely white labs 😔

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, IF anything
keep it to Tartarus

or Olympus

depending on what/where they are, of course

[hexed forge]

I feel like anything that is underground will have that grey tone.

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel 💔

[severe imp]

sry

[hexed forge]

Unless they go down the route of using different kinds of lighting tones the deeper you go

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
I do hope they, once the general underground stuff is done
that they go over lighting for each area

[hexed forge]

Which still makes them Grey!! Just less grey..

[echo gazelle]

Old concept mentioned

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[hexed forge]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

i am glad they're referencing old artwork, especially Tap stuff

its the right vibe

[acoustic osprey]

each area has its own brightness like each borough in London

notice how some zones are different brightness

[hexed forge]

Yeah I can see that

[acoustic osprey]

why

[hexed forge]

Oh

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

realising the stop sign

this will not stop me, sorry Visual

I will explore ALL areas

[fast forge]

oh I just realized there are two of the black cages

[acoustic osprey]

EVEN THE VERY DANGEROUS DROPS

[frozen totem]

https://tenor.com/view/reading-sign-cant-stop-me-no-one-can-stop-me-gif-13921932

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-christoph-waltz-reward-gif-19314746

[low scarab]

@hallow ruin Did somebody say android hell?

[lethal moat]

I hope the incinerator is functional

[low scarab]

Same lol

Let’s just hope the replicator doesn’t make us toss our companion cube down there

[acoustic osprey]

i mean it is a real drop, so please!!

although i suppose... depends on how it works
I don't imagine the flame would be on by default

But...

[lethal moat]

Go down to the burner room, open the gas valve, push the sparker button

https://tenor.com/view/cyberhills-toy-story-disney-fire-gif-23589517

[patent ginkgo]

I would like to have a sticky note mechanic so I can label the incinerator as “extraction point”

[lethal moat]

I want to put hogtied gen 2 in there, I don’t particularly care if thats how the replicator wants them, they’re being cooked well done

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[acoustic osprey]

It has been made with older UI elements so that it can come before the overhaul.

ok, this is good clarification then

elders first
UI Overhaul later

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-walking-dead-carl-andrew-lincoln-gif-7611127

Ui is king...love king...love ui

Deinosuchus elder is also king that's gonna be peak

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpsons-the-simpsons-drooling-gif-8650008

[signal pivot]

Oh this is lovely

[snow jasper]

trap players into the incinerator and recreate that one scene from HL Alyx

[acoustic osprey]

icarus flew too close to the incinerator

[nimble fractal]

🔥

[hallow ruin]

wait what

[hallow ruin]

BRO WE'RE DAMN SO BACK

BRO

[nimble fractal]

Have you gotten to the Incinerator room part yet 🔥

[hallow ruin]

THATS MADNESS YES

also i saw a small detail
THAT I FRICKING LOVEEEEE

GEN 1 REFERNCE

[nimble fractal]

Erm

no

just a "beipi or spino" reference

or...........

[royal mango]

Finally, a way to suicide a creature without drowning or roleplaying as Kratos

[hallow ruin]

...

[hallow ruin]

i love the helicopter part

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, might have to use it for inspiration
is pretty nice

[hallow ruin]

problem is we cant capture massive landscapes unless in-game footage 🤷‍♂️
but what if we dont need to...

[acoustic osprey]

what do you mean, massive landscapes

[hallow ruin]

like the helicopter flying over Delta river area and showing it all

im actually working on a helicopter that u guys told me about being the most accurate to the one in K-15 concept/bryan have talked about

well not actively, but i had it somewhere

[hallow rover]

is that done using the replay system?

if so thats amazing, i need to learn how to use it

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

F1 !

[hallow rover]

Nice ill have a go later, i never knew it was capable of all of that

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[plush widget]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_kYx-XDc4Kc?feature=share

This was so peak

[rare wadi]

this official?
because 1980??

[acoustic osprey]

no

replay filter

[snow jasper]

this is so islecore

i've just aestheticised the isle by slapping core onto it
thank me later

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

lol

[barren ruin]

is that a Deinochyrus?

[echo gazelle]

cheeseburger

(neurotenic)

[acoustic osprey]

spinosaur

[barren ruin]

spino still gives me hope for more love for the water creatures

[echo gazelle]

This goo

[acoustic osprey]

neuro goo

[echo gazelle]

They will find you

[barren ruin]

neuro is still the creepiest strain

[echo gazelle]

Undeed, my favorite

[low scarab]

You wouldn’t get it because you haven’t played portal. 😔

[low scarab]

Did u see they had the autopsy table from the neuro spino concept??

This guys autopsy table is gonna be in game I’m so happy

[hallow ruin]

excise me?!?!

[hallow ruin]

shut up

[hallow ruin]

they had a cage but not the tabel no???

[low scarab]

💯🔥

[hallow ruin]

GOD DAMN

dude i wish we already got these it'd be fun to play with

[plush widget]

And do nothing on

What would we do with em now

[hexed forge]

That one seems to be made for smaller creatures, I wonder if Vis made the Rex sized tables yet lol

[plush widget]

They would be useful and fun only if a dissection system has been developed

Do we think we'll get one

[hexed forge]

No

[plush widget]

No

[hexed forge]

Because that requires a whole lot of other systems for a dino to be even put on that table. Which I don't think Human gameplay will ever go down that indepth into their gameplay

[plush widget]

It would be amazing to have one tho

So the tables are just gonna be there for us to fangirl over the concept basically

That's alright

I'll take that

[hexed forge]

I mean, why would Gen2 even need to dissect dinosaurs? This of course depends on what their purpose on the island is

[plush widget]

I'm confused on the timeline here

And it ultimately depends on it

Gen 2s are on the island while AE has abandoned it

[hallow rover]

maybe something unexpected happens with one and they want to have a look whats going on inside

[plush widget]

Dissecting dinosaurs in this case doesn't have anything to offer, apart from the fact that AE might need something that is in the dinosaurs...

Especially on individuals that weren't nested in

Which could tie them to the replicator ??

🤔

[hexed forge]

What I THINK, is that AE sent Gen2s to Gateway for recovery operations (Recovering Files, Facilities, etc, any info.) and to keep the island monitored. That being through T-CAMS, M-CAMS, any cameras, even body cameras.
In short, to Recover and Surveil

[hexed forge]

That is true, but I don't think it would be at the hands of actual Gen2s.

Gen2s would be sent to sedate and capture the creature perhaps, but not actually dissect it.

The creature would be dissected by actual researchers and scientists off the island, unless AE has an operational facility on Gateway with real people.

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-not-real-gif-12571123869470397139

[hallow rover]

id imagine the dissection tables and stuff related to it where a thing for before AE left this island as a gen 2 skeleton crew

[hallow rover]

yea

i think alot of stuff is just left over rather than what gen 2 actually uses

[plush widget]

Most likely the case

[muted hill]

I dont have the newer version of this but who do we think this fella is and who could this hyper rex(?) be

[hexed forge]

yeah

[hexed forge]

why...

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey Would know I think

[plush widget]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

And yes it is a Hyper Rex

[plush widget]

The last thing

[muted hill]

my assumption would be the founder/CEO of apollo

[hexed forge]

yeah but what does the Gif mean..

[plush widget]

You don't know?

[hexed forge]

Lol

[muted hill]

what to basic?

[plush widget]

So the lady that is seen screaming and pointing saying "that beep is not real" swears see saw a dude on the plane have lizard like characteristics or something

That's what I've been told which could also be misinformation @hexed forge

[plush widget]

And sort of morph into them

[hexed forge]

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN REPLY TO MY THEORY THO

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[plush widget]

Nothing

The last 2 words of your sentence just reminding me of the moment

I'm not going dondi mode and responding with meaningful gifs

[hexed forge]

oh

yay

[plush widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1387292099321270302/togif.gif

[lethal moat]

Iirc, thats just Don lol

[muted hill]

wait really? haha that'd be pretty fun

[lethal moat]

Yeah

Do the how to train your dragon thing with strains

[muted hill]

I was kinda hoping it was secretly the founder and a hyper shirley or dean

but thats still a good one

[torpid roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1387898118774853673/John_Cake_Prowler.gif

[echo gazelle]

iirc they were just referred to as The Creator which means nothing

[muted hill]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[plush widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1387677942540140545/JohnMogCake.gif

[echo gazelle]

Ah yeah, the image was titled The Creator

at least the original which is the one you posted

[muted hill]

yeah I dont have the newer one

I just remember one was captioned with "Hello, old friend"

[echo gazelle]

Tapwing made the newer one labeling it The New Creator but still has no meaning. She did it just to keep tabs.

[muted hill]

how did I not piece together tapwing would have made it

I see ty

[torpid roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1348595123297980477/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[hallow ruin]

for real? u didnt tell me about that when i was making it lol

[frozen totem]

boy this is old af theres nothing canon about it

[rapid chasm]

no

facilities were operational pre incident and probably operated similar to a military base with people living on site

most likely functioned similar to a 6 month deployment with crews switching out every 6 months

i think that the stuff thats on island rn is just left over from pre incident timelines

incident referring to the event that happened to make AE leave

[plush widget]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1322289025503068260/1387015224959307876/cake_rotate_by_saranova.gif

[torpid roost]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNGM0cGVmcG9tcHV6bzllNTAxa25oNG1nMDBmMnl2bGtybHZ6cXprdCZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/HJpNkjP28OT6Wqlji7/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[fast forge]

there was no single incident

[exotic imp]

What if it’s a secret island and the dinosaurs aren’t dead

!!!!!

[muted reef]

There was one that was the final nail in the coffin though

[fast forge]

well maybe tell that to Don

[plush widget]

So a gradual decline

which made them completely abandon gateway

[strange shell]

That's exactly what someone trying to cover up an incident which actually happened would say

[muted reef]

Final nail in the coffin literally means oh too many incidents have happened (including this most recent one) so lets leave. It's still multiple incidents

[hallow rover]

An incident seems logical, surely a company would not build all of the infrastructure on gateway and then leave it with a gen 2 skeleton crew without good reason

Unless in lore gateway was never officially abandoned?

But then again if it wasn’t abandoned surely the in structures in game would be more maintained

[lethal moat]

We can’t play on an occupied island, I’m a bug fan of Isaac’s theory about different islands being different points in time that we play at

[hallow rover]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-chaos-theory-jurassic-park-gif-9379994

[hallow rover]

Could be

Did we ever get a number of how many other sites AE has?

[lethal moat]

Nyope

[plush widget]

we do know about the hunting reserve dont we?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but there’s likely more

[hallow rover]

I’d imagine there’s a few, some more publicly known in universe than others

Which is a point I always wondered how AE hid their operations from government/other authorities, unless they weren’t hiding it? Surely a satellite would have flown over gateway eventually and noticed the perimeter or some other large structures and wondered what was going on there.

[lethal moat]

Yo mr president, you keep the FDA out of our “medical testing sites” and I’ll gift you functional immortality

[hallow rover]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

Trump would certainly not say no to that lmao

I’d never thought of that idea though until now

I wish we knew where gateway was located, I’d love to know if it was near/how far away it is from shipping lanes. I quite like the idea of a lost ship stumbling across the island similar to the S.S Venture from King Kong

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe 12
At least 2

[hexed forge]

Because of the name Site 12?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

I’ve mentioned this before lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232022757642251/1347277708295409755/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_4-min.png?ex=68657d24&is=68642ba4&hm=a142fe08ddb1384ba1ffe4b05065b01963837a4510129f2cea5643971952c539&
ugh i need this

i need the floor to ceiling windows lol

[echo gazelle]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/is-that-all-get-real-drive-car-glass-gif-19580795

[acoustic osprey]

curious on how much of the items seen in the dblog are custom

https://clan.akamai.steamstatic.com/images//10915315/9c04bd19413797bf54289b01af0a9c821b2de995.jpg
would be really cool if the 'science-stuff' are custom

just so we can put some extra eyes and stay cautious if they say anything special...

👀

although, of course
the more important things are documents. Which... yeah. Who knows when we'll see 'em

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-jake-the-dog-funny-laugh-laughing-gif-5372688

[echo gazelle]

I'd like to believe a good amount are, especially the Dinosaur holding and study props as stated in the dblog

Also just noticed the image with the study table has a elevation platform of some sort, so it lowers down to another level from the looks of it

[acoustic osprey]

I just say it cause a lot of the 'new' item models we've been seeing has been all marketplace 😔

but Vis actually saying he's doing the items gives me hope for the Labs!

IF anything
the labs should be more custom 🤞

[acoustic osprey]

yeah! I believe it is based off the tapwing neuro one as well
not sure how 1:1 it is though

probably could compare...

[echo gazelle]

Agree with the lab assets and I took a look at the art and there isn't anything significant but I guess the question is how closely representation wise they want it. So far it isn't a spitting image identically from the looks in comparison. There is a mechanical arm in the concept but not in the room itself from the dblog

[acoustic osprey]

i do like the 2nd story/overlooking room of the art

but yeah
it does seem more loosely inspired, rather than very specific

[echo gazelle]

Mhm, also the random bollard from the study room image ina way tells us maybe a freight door idk as there's only one noticeable

[acoustic osprey]

ye

could be an entrance from GUTS?

also this room seems giantic

[echo gazelle]

I can see that yeah, as these bollards seem to be everywhere lol

And yes room very big

[acoustic osprey]

weird looking bollard near the sink (?) model at the back (LAB IX)

i am curious on what that room is
as it is the entrance section

could just be background junk, i don't presume this is made 'in' Gateway. Just in Vis' model map

[echo gazelle]

Nooo

I thought this was another one from the Lab IX image but it's just a recycle bin, also another one on the opposite staircase. Thank the Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/carthus-sandworm-dark-souls-solaire-worm-gif-1433137170884699942

[echo gazelle]

Yeah hard to tell, maybe it connects to the what looks like a storage room as I see a straddle stacker of some kind. And whadaya know another bollard but yellow edition

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
looks like it might be more to the right (storage)

but
maybe the storage room is L shaped

it is interesting

will be sick once LAB IX comes out properly

[echo gazelle]

Indeed, now..we wait

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mcu-gif-27544530

[buoyant crown]

those vending machines better say goga gola or boke or something like that

[acoustic osprey]

(we're getting custom ones soon, but that would be funny if it said something like that )

[buoyant crown]

are there any full indoor buildings in the map rn?

i wanna go exploring

[acoustic osprey]

all the ranger outposts do
and the docks (although, they all have like one or two buildings that have no interiors yet)

the domes have none atm

[buoyant crown]

what about that road that leads to the big pyramid thing?

this place

[acoustic osprey]

that section there though has a few buildings, but nothing with interiors

[buoyant crown]

gotcha gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[buoyant crown]

What does gateway mean btw when i go to the isle map site?

[lethal moat]

Hoping for more atrium interior along with redwoods

[lethal moat]

Thats the name of the map, presumably as in, gateway to tartarus

[buoyant crown]

Oh shoot i thought it was called spiro or something

[lethal moat]

Spiro was its own map

[buoyant crown]

When did they change it?

[lethal moat]

Almost 2 years ago now

[buoyant crown]

Is gateway bigger or smaller?

[lethal moat]

Bigger

[acoustic osprey]

bigger than what we could play on
smaller than the total size of Spiro (which we could not play on)

[buoyant crown]

I also remember there was one with two islands

[hexed forge]

Spero?

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/lighthouse-the-lighthouse-wake-laugh-wake-laughing-gif-16420751

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/power-throw-joe-kovacs-usa-olympic-team-nbc-olympics-shot-put-gif-22950939

[hexed forge]

This is how the Dibble Nesting Spot looks like now.

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-thanos-disintegrate-gif-16011539

[fast forge]

I think that might be a slightly different spot

[hexed forge]

No, those are the exact coords

Unless you make the argument that the coords have shifted, which in that case this spot looks the most similar to it

But its too far from the rocky terrain, meaning that the previous spot is its actual spot

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

Now Im waiting for the Riverdelta one...

[frozen totem]

pyramid 😭

[lethal moat]

Heck yeah

[hallow ruin]

defailt skin herrera ew

[plush widget]

Default skins solo

[snow jasper]

I want to go back to these quotes again

A while back, I criticised the use of Greek Letters to substitute the Diet Symbols thinking that they were going to be replaced. Whether or not they will still be replaced, I do not know.

But nevertheless, we also now have the plant strains which we know that they assimilate more than just standard biological and organic nutrients from their environment. Im surprised I didn't notice this sooner, but now I see why Carbs/Lipids/Proteins don't fit the narrative.

We now know of Metallivores, whether or not we'll get to know more about the particular specific parts of their diet, I don't know, but I hope so.

I still think the current symbols still have a more understandable design from a gameplay perspective of a biologist, but I understand how it'd be hard to create symbols of fictional nutrients assimilated by fictional organisms.

If I wanted to design something that emulates the molecular structure of a rust molecule as a more jagged S sort of shape. Or for Carbon, you could use 4 jagged hexagons placed in unison together and for Lead, something like what I just drew.

This way, you can keep the current designs that represent the nutrients and also, im not trying to say that the aforementioned molecules are the inorganic nutrients assimilated, they can be anything, we don't know.

[acoustic osprey]

^ yay

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, 'could' be shifted, i supposed
seeing as that whole east area has changed a lot...

reminds me that i need to do the reworked map...

i just need a proper 4k version of the new vulnona one

[hexed forge]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

(to be fair, Don did talk about this when you first brought it up after these messages)

but yeah
it will be quite interesting if we see some diet UI change or not from the last time we saw them

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/voila-lex-luthor-gene-hackman-superman-the-movie-behold-gif-1723817343362348412

I still think the current designs are better, but I can understand if they dont align given the other possibilites that may wished to be represented

[acoustic osprey]

i think the current designs are simplier to understand yeah

[hexed forge]

Wow

[acoustic osprey]

but i do see the new ones easily becoming learnt

[snow jasper]

Not just simpler, but also more logical

[acoustic osprey]

all of them are pretty obvious with what they mean
diet 1, 2 and 3 (A, B and C)

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't say more logical
but logical now? Yeah
but 'for the plan'? I wouldn't really agree

[snow jasper]

They‘re logical in the sense that they correspond to the nutrients molecular structures and are named accordingly

Tiny can vouch

[acoustic osprey]

i know

but that is still under the logic 'for now'

[snow jasper]

baboosh

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
if anything
they could do the same for all the new types of ways you can get diets

but then you just get diet UI maximalism

i mean, wouldn't be bad if there was only a few more new nutrients

although i don't mind the categorisation-quality of the new diet icons in that regard though

[snow jasper]

i will embrace and be rest assured when i know their greater purpose, for now, i am content

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-comfort-pikachu-caterpie-gif-17203018

[granite ore]

Someone said that in the Isle’s lore the Dinosaurs’ dna mutates ultra fast, and they said “Like Gallis were feathered but Lost them after like 2 generations”
Is this true or is it outdated? Was it ever true?

[fast forge]

we know there are feathered and unfeathered gallis in the lore
I don't think the rest of that is substantiated

[granite ore]

Ok, thanks!

[fast forge]

Finally, I've got tangible work started on my strain video

It's a lot of material to cover

Probably why it took so long to get started

[low scarab]

Oooooo nice

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

Finally a tiny video

[fast forge]

hey, I release shorts

but yes this will be much more substantial

[acoustic osprey]

I need substance!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070745426422141071/1389470915607269426/snlHi.gif

[acoustic osprey]

basically what Tiny said
but here is the glance sheet on it

But i would love to actually know how fast or slow Dinosaurs mutate
because we've seen some stuff on it (basically just with Herreras - AUGUSTUS)

but

from what we know from Don though
He has said that usually things happen more from SYNTHS (dinos/things made 'from the machine' ||quite likely The Replicator||)

#isle-lore-theories message
also looking back at this quote

just adjusted the description for The Replicator on the doc

emphasis on

refers to the collection of systems required to create life

[acoustic osprey]

-158,061.47, 274,331.546, 22,624.031

using this

cross referencing with current Vulnona, last update on current vulnona, old vulnona and islemaps

https://gyazo.com/23bab340863c59374545c29bfc94c6a5
current

https://gyazo.com/c57be0c0ddf24b3bd400471941672a53
last update

https://gyazo.com/f2625f4b89dfd1426ece7366d2b6c5a4
old

https://gyazo.com/7852ca8abd51b178f78d83a173e883db
islemaps

all looks to be in the same spot

which is basically where your herrera is sitting

[acoustic osprey]

only problem is that it kinda breaks at the new waterfall section

specifically just this part

although
how often would a creature in-lore actually cross a river?

weird observation though

these swamp trees disappear when you behind the viewing structure at east lake

actually, huh, it is a bit weird

i think it disappears once you behind a certain distance behind a structure

i get it now

[hexed forge]

I used the weathering excuse

That small slope that is created could easily be excused as weathering or just creatures breaking it down as they attempt to climb up the waterfall

[acoustic osprey]

Fair fair

[fast forge]

Hello my sane lore friends

unlike other chats right now

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-drinks-gif-6956004702122923548

[fast forge]

I've spent too much time in #isle-discussion today

[lethal moat]

I just got back from a temperate rainforest and now I’m excited for the atrium and redwoods

[fast forge]

what part of the world?

[lethal moat]

Pacific northwest

[fast forge]

oh that's where I live
it's nice here

[lethal moat]

It’s super cool, love the mountains and the evergreens

And the summer temp is sweet

[fast forge]

In my particular area we still have very hot days during the summer, usually with a combined week or two in the 90's-100's

[lethal moat]

I’m wearing a sweatshirt in July and I love it

[fast forge]

oh you're from a hotter climate

yeah it's like 75-80F for the high here today, I'd wear a tshirt and shorts

but it's interesting to me the way different people have different temperature acclimations

[lethal moat]

I’m used to 110 summer heat

[hexed forge]

When is isle-discussion not insane

[fast forge]

dude it's extra nuts today, no doubt

[hexed forge]

Why lol?

[fast forge]

you don't know?
or are you messing with me?

[hexed forge]

Rex/Allo leaks?

Damn it spread fast,

Like this morning it was just a rumor of some random chinese hacker getting access to it with a few screenshots lmao

[fast forge]

someone opened a public server

[hexed forge]

Dumb idea indeed

[low scarab]

Aren’t we all

Redwoods and actually an accessible dome will be amazing

[fringe berry]

i must acquire this skill to play rex early

[vivid stream]

yeah seems like they took the server down alreayd

[thorn crest]

Nah bro js wait until release

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel 😔

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

i really hope Redwoods has some nice THICK temperate fog

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-star-wars-beauty-admire-in-gif-12393901

[nimble fractal]

I hope redwoods will be gen1 spawn point

[acoustic osprey]

would be sick

Ewok style (but way more monsterous) Gen1ing at Redwoods

[hexed forge]

Replay is so broken man,
I cant record anything using the filters. It's so buggy

[dusk pier]

Will each dome be red woods or will some be different environments like desert or night forest ?

[hexed forge]

They likely will have different biomes

The big dome, Atrium, will have redwoods.

[dusk pier]

Is there any talk about glowing plants ? Glow in the dark stuff

[hexed forge]

Not yet no, but I wouldn’t be surprised if there are strain plants like that

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/xannyscomet-gif-24784015

It doesn’t work 😭

[nimble fractal]

I imagine glowing plants in the caves or underground facilities

[hallow rover]

Id love a dome thats all overgrown and stuff that was originally dedicated to strain plants

[dusk pier]

Yep i hope they glow also considering hyper rex and spino i think hyper herbivores should eat strain plants or something like that imagine a hyper anky comes through eats the strain plants blocking a path way and now every one has a new short cut to a hard to reach place sure there might be 1 hyper herbivore every 10th server once a month but just imagine the 3 or 4 hours they do play they reshape the environment then a legendary battle between hyper anky and hyper carno

Just saying im guessing herbies will have hyper strain but i only seen official art on carnivores

[hallow rover]

imagine a hyper anky 💀

that thing would be one hard thing to shift

[charred fractal]

Abramskylosaurus

Not even a "living tank" anymore that's just an M1A2

[granite ore]

Is that the designation for a Sherman tank?

[charred fractal]

nah, Shermans are M4, M4A1 (yes i know that's a rifle as well), M4A3E8, etc

M1A2 is the latest Abrams model

[granite ore]

Ah, ok

I’ll add that to the list of things called M1

[tired plume]

that would be cool and all we need is diplo

[hexed forge]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-what-i'm-talking-about-house-good-for-you-hugh-laurie-exactly-gif-4075998263476295678

[acoustic osprey]

having bioluminescence somewhere, like in some broken down and swampy area of GUTS would be sick

[lethal moat]

Maybe some of those modified vines

[acoustic osprey]

imagine that, but also where plant strains actually have mutated to fit the environment biologically

although, maybe that is what we've seen with the current plant strains?

probably not

but could be an interesting in-lore written thing

[lethal moat]

What if matriarch research started off trying to make plants and animals that can adapt to any environment

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-a-second-noah-roklov-nobody-wants-this-hold-on-adam-brody-gif-4510123814174550238

that... actually really works from what we've heard / 'know' about current matriarch

[lethal moat]

You may hear horrible demonic screeching from the dark, but those blue flowers on the walls are glowing

[acoustic osprey]

'awwww pretty-' swoosh

gone. Never to be seen again

[lethal moat]

But yeah, that idea I said works, maybe they couldn’t turn the matriarch into something you can apply to other organisms, or maybe it’s really unfinished

[acoustic osprey]

will be very interesting to hear both backstories of strains and the matriarch

[lethal moat]

So we know metallivores and possibly the redwoods are related to hypers, we know the matriarch is related to tissos, and we still got nothing on neuros

Show me whats hiding in Lab IX

[acoustic osprey]

Neuros might just be NHJs
i can imagine them being akin to like Drones

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/money-show-me-the-tom-gif-24782719

[lethal moat]

Oh right, I forgot about that, I’ve always enjoyed the term thrall

I wouldn’t be surprised if Lab IX refers to all of AE’s labs, not just the ones on gateway

[acoustic osprey]

mmmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
I can definitely seeing it being that

instead of it being the ninth lab on Gateway / "X" area
instead
the whole "system" is named LAB IX

maybe in homage to something or someone in the past, etc

could actually work as a feasible meaning

because maybe 9 labs on Gateway is a bit much

especially for server size
but hey, maybe that is intended

[hexed forge]

We think that Lab 9 is the entire lab system on Gateway?

[hexed forge]

I don't think so

You can fit many labs on the map, especially if oceans count cough F5

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, could be
Either LAB IX is the 9th lab on Gateway
or the actual name of the system

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t be surprised if gateway had 2-4 labs, but I do see it maxing out once we get to 4

[hexed forge]

The latter in my opinion,
Why would you have a sign that says "Lab 9" if literally the entirity of Gateway is Lab 9

[acoustic osprey]

i'm a bit 50/50
depends on the size of each LAB

because 9 (or more) labs does sound like a lot

[hexed forge]

I dont think so

[acoustic osprey]

instead of it being the ninth lab on Gateway / "X" area
instead
the whole "system" is named LAB IX

maybe in homage to something or someone in the past, etc

[lethal moat]

Given how large I expect it to be, having 9 seems excessive

[hexed forge]

yeah why would you have a sign that says Lab 9 if the entire lab system on Gateway is Lab 9

[acoustic osprey]

maybe in homage to something or someone in the past, etc

[hexed forge]

I dont get that

[acoustic osprey]

it is named LAB IX via something in the past
you could give many reasons for why - none of them would be as good as the other

[lethal moat]

Gateway could be Site 9, the labs on gateway being Lab IX, or something along those lines

[acoustic osprey]

it also follows what happens in languages as well
where a word or phrase originally means "X"
then slowly or quickly changes to "Y" (another meaning) due to "Z" reason or reasons

not that i believe this is the case with LAB IX
but definitely a possibility

maybe LAB IX is a part of a LAB complex system

and LAB IX is the 9th lab in it

[hexed forge]

This, is what I think

[acoustic osprey]

in that regard
either Site 9 or the 9th island/facility with a LAB system

[hexed forge]

Keep in mind that these Labs are underground, or maybe they can be put into the domes, or other facilities.
There are many spots

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as The Reserve likely doesn't have a LAB
but maybe they all do

[hexed forge]

We know that there are many levels underground aswell

[acoustic osprey]

what i imagined when it was first shown, was that the whole complex is literally just LABs on top of each other
and LAB IX is the very top

then LAB I would be tar tar!!us

[hexed forge]

I doubt it would be like that haha

That's a lot of levels when you have all that space over the island

Doesn't seem practical when you are doing research on these creatures

[acoustic osprey]

i mean...

Here you can see an image of a top down layout showing the highest floor

could be inferring to it being multi-floored

[acoustic osprey]

doesn't have to be just on creatures

but digging anywhere, realistically, is impractical

AE does seem to like their taxable deductions

[lethal moat]

I’d say it likely does, just more so focused on behavior rather than actual physical research

[acoustic osprey]

this image was pasted on it

BUT, on the other hand
is an eagle eye view

so it is top down
therefore, looking at the top (highest floor)

[hexed forge]

Oh i don't doubt it's multi-floored.

I just don't think theres a lab beanth/above each other lab

[acoustic osprey]

what i mean is that there is more below the lobby floor level

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

but, semantically, this also makes sense from what Vis was talking about

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

Either way, having labs ontop of each other in one spot of the island is not practical

[rapid chasm]

there was probably multiple irrc

[acoustic osprey]

(realistically, building underground in general is not practical)

[rapid chasm]

in different areas so on so forth

one for hypos, one for tissos so on

[hexed forge]

Yes,
That is why they likely didn't go that deep.
So there's definitely not like another 8 labs worth of levels under Lab 9

[acoustic osprey]

that might just be "tartarus"
if they want a more legacy version of it

[acoustic osprey]

i mean we don't know that
but we do see most of the current tunnels do seem to dig down relatively deep into the earth

and if each level is roughly 2-3 levels
it wouldn't be unrealistic from what we already have

of course though, it probably isn't really the right call for gameplay and level design

[hexed forge]

mhm

[acoustic osprey]

but it will definitely be quite interesting to know more about the funny LAB IX

i don't think we'll ever get an answer though, in-lore
at least, not any time soon
unless Don...

[hexed forge]

I just think it's one of the labs on Gateway, there being AT LEAST 8 other labs on Gateway.
This is just my opinion tho

[acoustic osprey]

wow!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1070745426422141071/1389470915607269426/snlHi.gif

honestly, i don't really mind whatever direction they take it

if it means just one LAB on Gateway
then hopefully LAB IX is fully equipped and chunky

and heck, maybe LAB IX could lead to Tartarus somehow
however Tartarus connects to Gateway, that is...

[hexed forge]

BUT WHY would there be a sign that says "Lab 9" if there's just ONE lab on Gateway

[lethal moat]

I think tartarus should have several (at least two) entrances

[hexed forge]

A physical sign for the staff

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
it could likely be the 9th LAB in the "AE" system

i think it is more realistically than purely it just being a name and not an indication of nine labs

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-what-i'm-talking-about-house-good-for-you-hugh-laurie-exactly-gif-4075998263476295678

[acoustic osprey]

i don't think it is too confusing
at least in semiotics, it isn't a bad name to have for a sign

lots of companies have very juxtaposing names to what their intention is
and once you're debriefed about the situation, it doesn't become that confusing imo

but i understand where you're coming from

[hexed forge]

Oh well

Guess we'll see when they add more labs, IF, they do

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

I wouldn't be surprised, if there is nine labs scattered around Gateway, if some of them are destroyed / unable to 'get in'
like what we can see with some tunnels

add a bit of spicy worldbuilding

but, I do hope LAB IX, at the very least, gets the right amount of attention first!

as it should

it'll be sick to explore
even if we don't get any lore papers 😔

[lethal moat]

I’d like to see a completely scuttled lab, where you crawl through narrow spaces between rubble as a gen 2 trying to find something important

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/behemoth-skydance's-behemoth-vr-cave-torch-gif-2998172536697538387

find the switch to turn off the servers!

lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-cat-camera-funny-cute-gif-12929257

[rigid tartan]

Me when I smell coffee brewing

[acoustic osprey]

it is so

[hexed forge]

I wonder if these tunnels collapsed by accident or was it done by someone on purpose?

[acoustic osprey]

hmm quite so

i suppose whoever or however the fence were destroyed

could be similar to the tunnels

however, i suppose with the GUTS tunnels
it is harder to tell if it is natural or not

than the fences

which seem far more obviously attacked by something/someone

could be all related to why TOMB was eradicated
potentially

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-hmmm-notmomordad-yesorno-shouldicomeorshouldigo-gif-12416233

Would TOMB be underground?

[acoustic osprey]

but that, specifically, depends on where TOMB is
therefore, a part (subsystem) of The Replicator is on Gateway

[hexed forge]

Indeed

Oh well yeah makes sense that TOMB is underground, given its name

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps
it would be safer from the elements if so, coming to think about it

[acoustic osprey]

LOL
true

[hexed forge]

yeah

yea haha

[acoustic osprey]

like the only danger of it being underground would be it being crushed
but... like... they would've spent billions on engineering and construction

a cave/underground structure/akin just does not simply collapse with that amount of money behind it

https://tenor.com/view/one-does-not-simply-facepalm-mordor-gif-14797008

[hexed forge]

Yeah

So makes sense if someone... blew it up..

[acoustic osprey]

and Don's term 'eradicated' is fitting for it

[hexed forge]

But then we technically play as EIPs, so TOMB has to be still functional at the time of us playing the game right?

UNLESS, it makes it so the EIP data cannot be saved, thus the person (EIP) is basically stuck in whatever body The Replicator gives it.

This then just simply leads to a way to end the game.. just turn off the Replicator..

The latter makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

but do we though... "But then we technically play as EIPs"

[hexed forge]

I would say so