isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

why isn't there 9 now!? dawndi!?

https://open.spotify.com/track/17cwZSbJbz39Rcn8sBCryW?si=c4414111b4b84039 where ...

[hallow ruin]

@acoustic osprey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFWf_1rDbDA

was this in the new codix? couldnt recognize it

old/new

[acoustic osprey]

nah
they're both new

[pseudo lantern]

wh

[acoustic osprey]

don't think so

[acoustic osprey]

Omnisaur Grows is the most similar

https://youtu.be/j4lCz-LNiXU

yeah it is the original version
interesting

[hallow ruin]

oh awesome
some friend said id imagine "dinosaur island" as the intro for when u first arrive at the island
reminds me of JP openings

thought it'd be sad if its not in evrima, but nice!

[acoustic osprey]

it is a nice track

[hallow ruin]

or this one exactly

[hallow ruin]

i lowkey forgot abt it although i loved it a lot

[acoustic osprey]

mmhmm

[hallow ruin]

chat
give me your favorite Hyper strain and favorite skin that they had (if there is)

[sacred spear]

hypsi

[pseudo lantern]

CARNOTAURUS

[mint igloo]

Micropachycephalosaurus.

[pseudo lantern]

dearie me

basal ceratopsians are weird sauce

[mint igloo]

they're cool honestly only kinda basal ornithopods that aren't boring

those and the hypsilophodontines

[pseudo lantern]

HOORAY

[fast forge]

Oh man

I was going to include the new strain plants in my big video analysis of genetic engineering and ecological engineering in the isle

But the more I look into it, there is an entire video of stuff I could say about just these two strain plants

[mint igloo]

please do I love the metallivore

[fast forge]

It's more complicated than it seems

I'm guessing it's engaging in both photosynthesis and chemotrophy/chemolithotrophy

[mint igloo]

that's fascinating ngl

a lythotrophic plant

[fast forge]

Now dondi give us a strain plant that eats radiation 🙏

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-sandy-cheeks-photosynthesis-gif-4526738

[mint igloo]

All of them do g

[fast forge]

I don't mean electromagnetic radiation, I mean like alpha and beta particles

I want a glowing plant that eats uranium

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-uranium-do-not-eat-uranium-nice-try-fed-colon-3-gif-17234768535686601101

[mint igloo]

Giant funghi that did it could be cool too they already exist but they smol

[fast forge]

Mendys is like:

(Minor warning for some graphic animated material)
https://youtu.be/ditJB7Amxr4?si=Gld8lBiZFuA73iSg

[lethal moat]

I thought it was more like the oil from hunger games, where it wraps around you and shreds you, rather than just biting

[patent ginkgo]

I would love a parasitic plant strain, either a parasite of other plants (root or stem like ghost pipe or mistletoe) or maybe like mistletoe but it grows on animals

[mint igloo]

How bout tlou cordyceps but plant based

[patent ginkgo]

Eh, I think the zombie idea’s already been done

But the idea of a plant growing its roots into a wound on the body of some dinosaur is more interesting imo

Maybe then suckering up through the skin in other places until eventually the animal dies

Anti-Mixpacking mechanic

[lethal moat]

Death via fungus induced infection

[torpid roost]

yo guys what are this new plants concepts?

what is ivy ?

[leaden hound]

genetically modified strains of plants that do creepy and cool things

[mint igloo]

Ivy is a climbing vine it exists irl

[torpid roost]

oh

[mint igloo]

It doesn't usually eat metal tho

[torpid roost]

things are getting more interesting every new devblog cool

[mint igloo]

I'd have never expected mutant plants tbh but here we are and I love them

[patent ginkgo]

Ivy is a name for a number of u related vining plants irl, but the new carnivorous strain plant has leaves that look a lot like poison ivy

[torpid roost]

i thought they were some kind of food in strains diet but then i red carnivorous plant ...

[leaden hound]

yeah, i hope the mendys is actually implemented, it looks like a really fun way of making the environment itself more hazardous and dangerous

i like the idea of the island being hostile in itself, not just hostile animals

[patent ginkgo]

Apparently, strain plants were thought up before strain dinos

[torpid roost]

humans are not having a good time with this one...

truly horror experience

everything can kill you as human

[mint igloo]

There will be mutant edible plants and they'll play a part in obtaining dino strains

[leaden hound]

fr, its gonna be way too much fun playing as a human

[mint igloo]

Ye I saw the giant rafflessia back then but I thought it'd be srapped ngl

[leaden hound]

i hope they add strains of aquatic plants too, would make rivers and swamps that much more scary

like a type of lilypad that tangles you up and pulls you in

[patent ginkgo]

Aquatic megaflora

Though not necessarily strains, there is apparently a relation between a “containment breach” from marine megaflora operations and the giant crabs that are planned

My theory is early hyperendocrine strain research

Hyperendocrine kelp could suck astronomical amounts of co2 out of the oceans and by extension the atmosphere

[fast forge]

"Crab walkies"

Giant crab animation started?

Or maybe just for the new small crab AI

Or maybe both. Needing only a single crabwalk animation is probably economical

[mint igloo]

A giant crab wouldn't walk the same as a lil one tho

[patent ginkgo]

I wonder if the giant crabs will even walk

The way Don explained them that one time on stream made it seem like they just kinda sit in the sand and jump out if you’re on top of them

[torpid roost]

i wonder how giant will be the giant crabs

[mint igloo]

Skyrim mudcrab easte egg big maybe lol

[torpid roost]

i hope its not elden ring giant crab size lol

[mint igloo]

It's about the same yeah lol

[indigo parcel]

Nah they add japanese spider crab

As first ever ocean AI

[mint igloo]

Sharks should be a thing too imo

[indigo parcel]

Bullsharks

Ocasionaly spawning in rivers

[mint igloo]

And or tigersharks

Maybe sum hammerheads too

Options are out there

[indigo parcel]

Also MOVE DAMN COLEOCANTH INTO OCEAN

[mint igloo]

And give us some more elite models like arapaima or barracudas for the oshun

[indigo parcel]

Also imo those strain plants would add such a cool vibe

[mint igloo]

The metallivore is so cool it was unexpected but greatly appreciated

[indigo parcel]

And will fit with lore of Apollo cuz they were starting with plants

Meaning those plants were their first experiments

[mint igloo]

Ye ye I can't wait to see them in like 2037

[indigo parcel]

Nah 2050 at minimum

[mint igloo]

Man I wish they were like just a lil bit faster just a tiny tidy bitty bit faster

[indigo parcel]

Yk there is only few devs

[mint igloo]

Ik ik I really can't complain but still

[indigo parcel]

Also the isle is Indie Game

Nah those plants will be next year

They do great work

[mint igloo]

I'm happy with Rex Allo and austro this year tbh

But I digress

LORE

[indigo parcel]

I want lore

Cuz im MatPat reincarnated

Im in like 13 fandoms if not more and I have at least 2 theory minimum for eath

[mint igloo]

Where does Barney fit into all this

[indigo parcel]

Huh

[mint igloo]

Yeah yk

Barney

[indigo parcel]

You mean that pink t.rex thingy

[mint igloo]

-# yes

[indigo parcel]

What does he have to do with The Isle

Ik we have t.rex but you can't make it pink

[mint igloo]

I bet Barney was behind all of it

The whole Isle AE Tartarus thing

It was ALL him

He couldn't just let the past be the past

He HAD to have his ppl back

[indigo parcel]

Wth you are talking abt

[mint igloo]

Even if he had to get ACTUAL ppl inside then dinos

It had always been Barney

[mint igloo]

Just hear me out man

[indigo parcel]

Man are you high

Or drunk

[mint igloo]

Just horribly bored hbu

[indigo parcel]

I want to talk with my gf, so I talk to ppl

And watch some YTP

[mint igloo]

Well done YTPs are great

[indigo parcel]

Ye

[mint igloo]

Underrated video genre imo

[indigo parcel]

I like them

Peak of youtube

WWD Ytp was great

[mint igloo]

Fr they even outlasted MLGs when they were still a thing

Ah the MLG era

It warms this old crusty heart of mine

[indigo parcel]

Now YTP need to outlast brainrot

We need The Isle YTP

[mint igloo]

Not enough dialogue or like poopable interactions imo

[mint igloo]

It will it's a staple of this platform atp

[fast forge]

that was my point

[indigo parcel]

Maybe they do crab rework

CUZ THEY ARE TO SMALL AND LESS NOTICABLE

[fast forge]

this is an island full of genetically engineered monstrosities, they probably created a freshwater coelacanth

[indigo parcel]

For what reason ?

Isn't coleocanth meat just yk ordinary fish meat

So no need to farm it if there are catfish

[fast forge]

I can't say why they would do it, but throwing a deep-sea saltwater lobe-finned fish into rivers and streams seems intentional

[indigo parcel]

Plus we don't know if Apollo even had dna of aquatic creatures

We know they started out modifing plants

Than went and done "dinosaurs" and mutants

If we don't get in game confirmation of them having at least one DNA of aquatic animal we can't say they modified coleocanth

It can be even some small aquatic reptile

[regal horizon]

i wanted that gift code tho <.<

[torpid roost]

oh😭 💀

[torpid roost]

maybe kentro too

[mint igloo]

Ye if they finish current roadmap they might even drop the next one which is great

[low scarab]

WE GOT STRAIN PLANT CONCEPTS

[acoustic osprey]

Woohoo

[acoustic osprey]

I am curious why they have a big gated pool at water access though

[acoustic osprey]

100% still agree

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly
Biggest question is why and what happened once 'they' made them

Hopefully something explored in a future lore video

Or a lore document

[hexed forge]

I think there's a very plausible theory for why they made Metallivores

Not sure about the Mendys tho...

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah
Eat my garbage nerd!

Garbage: eats everything they make

[fast forge]

yeah my best guess is soil replenishment and nitrogen fixation

but the line of evidence there is kinda weak

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-mgr-jetstream-sam-jetstream-sam-gif-27233787

[hexed forge]

What is the evidence?

[fast forge]

you'll have to watch the video I'm gonna make

(I'll tell you if you really wanna know, but I kinda don't want to spoil too much)

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Yum yum

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

yay

[fast forge]

okay fine
Essentially carnivorous plants live in areas with little accessible nitrogen, often swampy conditions

So Mendys might take animal sources of nitrogen (protein) and recycle it back into the soil

[hexed forge]

Do we know where Mendys would spawn?

[fast forge]

Additionally it has rootlike structures referred to as a corm or spud. It's unlikely but possible that these work like nodules on the roots of some legumes, which house bacteria. These bacteria transform atmospheric nitrogen into a form that the plant can use, and in exchange the plant "feeds" the bacteria

[fast forge]

no idea really

[fast forge]

Other plants have associations or symbioses with bacteria or cyanobacteria to fix nitrogen in the same manner, but legumes (beans) are the most common and recognizable example

But this bit about Mendys roots is pure speculation

[hexed forge]

Hmm I see

[fast forge]

In the concept art the roots are called "corm or spud", neither of which have nitrogen-fixing bacteria IRL

So it's a tenuous connection

A corm is essentially just an enlarged root ball used for storing energy in the form of carbohydrates

A spud is a colloquial name for a potato, and the tuber of a potato serves much the same function, energy storage

That's why you can have a really old potato, and it will sprout new roots using that stored energy, even when it doesn't have access to light

[snow jasper]

„The leaves were to be reminiscent of our ivy that’s going to be used on buildings and such in the future“

My best guess is around above ground structures

[snow jasper]

I grow legumous crops in my garden, this makes me happy to see it mentioned :>

[hexed forge]

Potentially

[mossy skiff]

[lethal moat]

Mixed with normal ivy for false sense of security

[acoustic osprey]

something Shiny does bring up and something i am curious about

are strain plants as 'diverse' as strain dinos?

that being, we know there would be several different Hypers (H Rex, Carno, Utah, etc etc)
But what about Metallivore? is there only 'one' metallivore?

[lethal moat]

I'm of the opinion the strain plants we've seen are reflective of existing strains we've already seen

[acoustic osprey]

So you believe there to be more metallivores?

[lethal moat]

I think matallivores are related to hypers, given their seeming durability and focus on consumption of recources

[acoustic osprey]

not what i mean...

[knotty locust]

wouldn’t be strange to me

maybe there were/are some strain experiments like the metallivore or using the same strain in Tartarus

[strange shell]

Unless strain plants are what led to dino strains
Like the metallivore is what provides the hyper strian, but isn't exactly a "strain" itself
It's a different plant species

[acoustic osprey]

contrasting difference with plant strains and dino strains could be

[lethal moat]

Could you explain, because I'm confuzzled

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

Oh, I see, I wouldn't be surprised

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

[nimble fractal]

Rumple casually changing his profile pic mid conversation

He might be a mimicrid working for an AE......

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[snow jasper]

I disagree, Hypers have to consume a lot in order to sustain its high energy demanding bodies, Metallivores thrive in low nutrient soil areas therefore opting to breakdown metals and in organic material to sustain itself.

Therefore I think as a biproduct of the highly metal and mineral rich intake from the roots, the metallivores have essentially a reinforced cell wall in the cells that instead of using cellulose, it creates its own molecule which tends to replace the cellulose and be much stronger than it if it is based off of the in organic material it consumes

[patent ginkgo]

I sort of agree, as I would expect a hyper plant to need excessive resources which, typically, is a trait of plants in depositional areas like deltas

Metallivores seem like their own thing, one I would expect to have been made in order to reduce pollution of metals or potentially extract metal from areas more easily so the plant can be harvested for its metal content

[mint igloo]

Like an organic recyling facility I like it

[snow jasper]

A hyper plant, yes, but a metallivore isn't a hyperendocrin

[snow jasper]

Phytomining

[patent ginkgo]

I was agreeing with you lol

[snow jasper]

Thats why I crossed it out

[patent ginkgo]

I enjoy this term

[patent ginkgo]

Ah

[snow jasper]

lol

doesn't look very flammable sadly

[fast forge]

I also don't think metallivores are related to hypers

Just not the same vibe to me

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah that as well

[snow jasper]

I suppose it has a visual likened appearance to the dorsal scales of hypers, that is about it

[fast forge]

If anything I'd put Mendys closer to hypers

[snow jasper]

I really hope Mendys is the name of a scientist since its the only strain to not have a clear etymological meaning that links to the plant

[fast forge]

I think it does have a meaning
#isle-lore-theories message

[patent ginkgo]

Interesting that it would be a Greek and Latin mix

Though not unusual in scientific names ofc

Like T. rex

[fast forge]

indeed

[snow jasper]

I see where it comes from, but I don't want to believe it
I hope for named individual people

[spare glen]

This is lowkey beautiful

[snow jasper]

I wonder whats so special about reaper's ears to make them fossilise, assuming that this is the skull of the beast

[snow jasper]

I didn't make, its for comparison

[spare glen]

Ik but it’s still beautiful

[snow jasper]

this skull intrigues me however

nothing to say whether it is lore, or isn't

[sonic rampart]

It's a dragon

Chiiri made those

[snow jasper]

yummy

[fast forge]

Where did this come from?

[snow jasper]

pixy's pfp

[fast forge]

And yes, external ears don't have bones, they are made of cartilage

[snow jasper]

I know :>

[fast forge]

I doubt that skull design is canon

[snow jasper]

although

Doesn't cartilage in fish/sharks fossilise? or is that just because being underwater affects their decomposition

[lethal moat]

Chiiri made it for Pixy, I doubt it’s accurate to actual skull shape, just for fun

[fast forge]

I believe the cartilage can fossilize, but it's extremely unlikely. This is why most shark fossils are known from only teeth

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/spinner-shark-gif-8618612501925991834

[lethal moat]

Do a barrel roll

[sacred spear]

@sonic rampart is that Austro in yours

luv austro

[low scarab]

Holy tough

[hexed forge]

I don't think the Reaper Concept is one big fossil lol

Doubt the ears are bone tho

Probably cartilage

[snow jasper]

Well... nothing wrong with theorising, there is no doubt something special about the ears and maybe nose of the reaper, while it could be a biproduct of the horrific biology of the creature. Only reason as to why I think it might be bony is due to how skin wrapped its nose is, there is cartilage in the Nose and Ear in humans, so maybe the reaper just has its Cartilage reinforced with bone, if not replaced with it entirely.

I don't think its out of the picture, but I do think the biology of the reaper isn't something that was thought of to that extent in the conceptual phase of its recreation.

[hexed forge]

Doubt its fully bone,
To me, the ears look like they are fully cartilage. Besides it would be very uncomfortable for the reaper if it was pure bone.. I think?

[snow jasper]

We wont know until we see it in game sadly

or at least a much more detailed look, but we wont know a lot about strain development

there'll just be signs of their presence :(

[acoustic osprey]

Do they fossilise?

[snow jasper]

that depends if they're made of bone or cartilage or something else
hard to say given what we have to go off of

[fast forge]

(fossilize )

[snow jasper]

american

[fast forge]

oh it's s regional thing?

[snow jasper]

we speak the queen's English mademoiselle

[snow jasper]

you just found out?

[fast forge]

had no idea

[snow jasper]

its more than just -z's and -s's
theres -ours and -ors

[fast forge]

I know that
color and colour

or calling this letter H "haich"

[lethal moat]

Zed

[snow jasper]

more regional than national

[snow jasper]

zee >>>

[fast forge]

lol my phone thinks it's misspelled

fossileyes...

forgive me, it's friday after work and I'm feeling silly

[snow jasper]

you are forgiven

[hexed forge]

Fossilize and Fossilise are both correct,

Fossilize is more common in american english

[snow jasper]

The Queen's English versus Webster's English

[wind shadow]

I wonder

If it turns out to be correct that dinosaurs have human intelligence

Would something like magy martial arts be a perfectly credible thing?

[torpid roost]

human inteligence or human minds

different though

[wind shadow]

So…

[torpid roost]

if i was in a magy body id definetively use them

magy box

but then how do you explain this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1342317749120008293/gallifall.gif

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
The question was given like we knew it had fossilised ears

So I'm just curious
How we had that assumption

Have we seen the skull before?

[snow jasper]

always one to point out between assumption and theory

[acoustic osprey]

THE English

[snow jasper]

YES, I KNOW, BUT IM LAZY, FORGIVE, BUT I AM HUMAN

[acoustic osprey]

Just because.......

[acoustic osprey]

Execution time

[snow jasper]

you wouldn't dare...

[acoustic osprey]

Sorry....

[snow jasper]

mhm

https://tenor.com/view/french-tounge-holygrail-gif-5715318

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

[acoustic osprey]

What is the other way...

[pseudo lantern]

Aich!

[acoustic osprey]

Hwhere

[pseudo lantern]

hi

[hexed forge]

hwhy

[acoustic osprey]

How do you say 'or', shenon?

[pseudo lantern]

probably the same way you do?

Lemme find the ipa

[acoustic osprey]

I am just curious
How I say it, apparently, would likely get me bot snipe

[pseudo lantern]

ɔ

[acoustic osprey]

Ħello

[pseudo lantern]

it's just an aw sound

same as when you say caught

[pseudo lantern]

This actually might not be the right character because I cannot discern whether it's the American usage or the Australian usage

[fast forge]

ay-ch

[hexed forge]

I second this

[prisma crown]

aech

[fast forge]

My maia passed through south plains, didnt' see anything new

[knotty locust]

@acoustic osprey - Under volcano GUTS expanded, coast splines divided

[acoustic osprey]

yay

i love being not home

[knotty locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1368073860926148658/image.png?ex=6816e592&is=68159412&hm=c922c6f2a0615be63f535e3ead3c821c260dd6f428441cd51f565f4580018271&

[acoustic osprey]

the outside was done prior

[ionic fog]

was this done prior? last ht update I pretty much lived in west acess and savanna lol

its the double gates leading from northlake to delta, the entire new complex is "connected" from the other side of the volcano

this final loading bay, absolute vibe

just a shame you cant run around it yet, the only thing stopping you is a black wall and a few tunnel pieces missing

can they not pleaseeee remove the black walls, the whole south section is right here

[acoustic osprey]

that one is yeah

in terms of the added stuff outside of it

[fast forge]

it's deeper now

[acoustic osprey]

wait no
difference place i am thinking of

[ionic fog]

POV: It is your job to watch the lemonade bending machine

[acoustic osprey]

same

[ionic fog]

alr this aint lore, I just gotta know, why the rocks? theres even a rock mesh under the rock rock

[acoustic osprey]

only a tiny bit does lol

is quite weird though

new cut out at Atrium as well

[lethal moat]

Why short

Also, looking through that, it's going to take hours to clear that as a human team, and even when you do, it'll have taken so long that unless you posted guards, you likely won't see any dinosaurs coming in after you

[ionic fog]

20 troodon in the vents, no amount of corner checking will save you

[lethal moat]

Squad of 5 with 2 atvs and a dirt bike

[echo gazelle]

stuff

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[echo gazelle]

i await for morse code

[long onyx]

whats different about the volcano thing

[acoustic osprey]

the Hub is finished and there are more things next to it (but not connected yet)

[torpid roost]

do we have screenshots of the new volcano guts?

[acoustic osprey]

@torpid roost

[torpid roost]

thank you

is it explorable or not yet?

[neon gorge]

beleive there is a connection but its shadow walled off

[acoustic osprey]

^

although the 'main bit' in the image isn't connected to that bit that Pockets is referring to

albeit, very very close to it

the Industrial/Admin Hub IS done though

so we're likely to see LAB IX soon?

specifically this Hub, for reference

[hallow ruin]

guys i need help

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-stoick-how-to-train-gif-24683704

[hallow ruin]

whats the closest looking plant/leaves to this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1286371548751466597/1368188567033221182/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_2-min.png?ex=68175066&is=6815fee6&hm=52e83be84cf34aba339b26013b2c60b9514a3ffd9f09b61af0b9f94df3076ded&

the overgrowing one

[acoustic osprey]

i don't we've gotten propery vines yet
besides one thingo

[hallow ruin]

is there some plant in anywhere that looks any similar

[hallow ruin]

even IRL?

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of evrima
would likely exist irl

[hallow ruin]

any idea on it?

[acoustic osprey]

@patent ginkgo you're asking questions when you should just DM the plant man himself

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-coc-clash-of-clans-gif-24053135

[hallow ruin]

i was gonna do it but i thought i did it too many times and didnt wanna annoy him 👉👈

[acoustic osprey]

nah, jolly is jolly for a reason
and you should always try ask the people who you know know specifics

easier to find something you're looking for if you're searching in the right bush

[neon gorge]

but i love asking the bookshelf builder to make me a cake

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes people can surprise you though...

[frozen totem]

the chainlink is supposed t oshow the rock

[acoustic osprey]

you mean the mesh?

yeah
giving the vibe of 'underground'

but the actual rock on top of the modules

it only uses a very tiny bit of that big rock
lol

[hallow ruin]

cuz the ceilling is meant to have rocks covering it
thats the backend side of it

[hallow ruin]

ig makes sense

[ionic fog]

Just funny that there’s an entire built in rock mesh, then a rock got put ontop, about 1% of it poking through the rock mesh

If you take the camera up to it you can see the seam where it sticks through, tiniest little patch of extra rock

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol
quite funny

[hallow ruin]

yeah cuz they are intentionally inside each other to make the inside of GUTS hub seem to have variation
not the same familiar texture of the rock

[acoustic osprey]

not in the hub

they're just above the 'intersections'

https://gyazo.com/83fdf9dd58acdc5d8c62a4e3219229e0

these rocks right on top

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1368083138823065702/image.png?ex=6816ee36&is=68159cb6&hm=9eca13c49ef34b0b64292a61b2e324a2cd475683a6137cd4e5aa83a270a86bad&

there is a rock texture that isn't part of the 'rock on top'

[hallow ruin]

arent these the hubs?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[acoustic osprey]

this is the hub^

[hallow ruin]

idk whats wrong with this? lol
as lng as its not visible..

[acoustic osprey]

no
Beasty is saying there is a BIG rock on top
which adds nothing (because it is above it) besides a tiny bit point of the roof

[acoustic osprey]

which happens here^

[ionic fog]

From the inside it’s not visible, so no issue, but I’ll never not know there’s a giant boulder ontop of intersections

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
just comedically funny

and probably will be removed in the future

[hallow ruin]

ooooh
now thats odd

so the on on TOP like the last one all the way up is
useless...

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much haha

[hexed forge]

How are the GUTS lookin like,
Didn't check it out yet

[low scarab]

Isaac explored them

For the laziest of us

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1224480442372063444/JIMDANCING.gif

[frozen totem]

inside of the dome seems like its getting ready for redwoods

[acoustic osprey]

ye

woohoo

[knotty locust]

is it the hexadome?

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

Nothing great lore-wise I assume?

[frozen totem]

the whole chunk of guts under/by the volcano is lit

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[knotty locust]

I wonder if how big the redwood trees would be, then

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/clapping-death-of-stalin-happy-bravo-smile-gif-16665688

[knotty locust]

or how sparse the trees will be

seems like they’ll be rather concentrated in such an area

[icy onyx]

any new lore?

[acoustic osprey]

nah

[fast forge]

redwoods genetically engineered to be tiny

[fast forge]

well there was the devblog

[icy onyx]

thats just development lore

[hexed forge]

Strain Plants concepts

Metallivores and Mendys

Metallivore is the plant that eats metal and other materials in structures.

Mendys is.. we know little about it but seems to just be a poisonous plant. It's small iirc

[hexed forge]

Hopefully pretty big..

Oh Elder for raptor is in

[hexed forge]

Definitely can get lost

[mint igloo]

backroom material ngl

[fast forge]

Strain plants

[tacit loom]

new toobs

[indigo parcel]

I mention it again: those plants were first ever experimants of Apollo Engineering

[patent ginkgo]

I doubt first ever
But I would assume either before the Dino stuff or within a project that started before dinos

[echo gazelle]

in the botanical gardens biodome and then the happening happened

[gaunt hazel]

This may be a long shot but I think humans were recently here by mud hiding scent, look at this image

Looks like footprints

[frozen totem]

uhhuh...

[median shuttle]

perimeter's interior landscape and ground got changed

[lethal moat]

Redwoods soon TM

[tacit loom]

the brown biome

[ornate comet]

Interesting

I liked the waterfalls inside the dome tho, even if we can’t go to it

[acoustic osprey]

There is one left

And the buildings inside are still there
Unsure about the middle pipe though

As I don't know if you can see that on replay

[ornate comet]

Well I’ll fly around in replay later

I spawned in a random eu server and recorded for like 4 mins

[acoustic osprey]

from the big dome? Those are relatively 'old' now
but they are pretty interesting

[acoustic osprey]

also the river still seems to be connected
which seems like they're still going down that route
which is great

[dapper cedar]

how did bro find that???

[fast forge]

oh yeah, south plains river just kinda comes out of the atrium doesn't it?

[lethal moat]

Yep

[tame quarry]

Where’s this

[tame quarry]

They added it ??

[acoustic osprey]

Under the volcano
Non accessible

[tame quarry]

Oh wow never knew it was there

Is the raptor elder added ?

Fr wtf what does it even look like

Pics would be great

[lethal moat]

Fat, it's also unfinished

[tame quarry]

Ah ok that’s as axing

Amazing I also seen that the allo is in the hordtest

[gaunt hazel]

i was by mud, and looked down at a unusual pattern of 2 stripe bottem shoes, maybe boots?

[dapper cedar]

lucky ahh

[gaunt hazel]

nah i got skill at what i do

[lethal moat]

#isle-discussion message

[gaunt hazel]

but fr its 2 shoe marks i think thats a easter egg, it was by mud so i assume they are hiding their scent with it

[dapper cedar]

pro

[gaunt hazel]

yas

[tame quarry]

Thank u good sir

[dapper cedar]

in my many years of the isle ive caught a single sound

[gaunt hazel]

i started playing 2 weeks ago i have 150 hours

[tame quarry]

That’s crazy

I have 500+ over a year or so

[gaunt hazel]

i got nothing to do and have watched the game for years

[tame quarry]

That would be me

[gaunt hazel]

also my first fg's were dein and steg so it explains-

[tame quarry]

I love evirma and legacy so much

[gaunt hazel]

i think were getting offtopic

[gaunt hazel]

shoes

[tame quarry]

Mines was Utah spino deino

[gaunt hazel]

lucky!

[tame quarry]

100%

[gaunt hazel]

howd you play spino, i cant find him

[tame quarry]

You have to go on legacy and find a server like asura that lets you request it from their discord

I can inv you to the server if you like ?

[gaunt hazel]

ahhhh

[acoustic osprey]

Or go in a sandbox server on Legacy

[gaunt hazel]

hell yeah

[tame quarry]

I also know how to have legacy and evirma installed at once

Like the same time

[gaunt hazel]

hows that even work-

[tame quarry]

Add me back and il answer all your desires

lol

[gaunt hazel]

yasss

[tame quarry]

Back to lore, I was always hoping we’d get that mosasaur from og legacy back

[acoustic osprey]

Water access might
But...

I doubt

[tame quarry]

It was an ai that was in the sea

was in a very very og IGP episode

[acoustic osprey]

That was saurian, no?
Or a mod

[tame quarry]

It was in the game I’m almost positive

you’d have to YouTube it

[acoustic osprey]

Do you remember it being blue?

[tame quarry]

I’m searching YouTube for it

[tame quarry]

Don’t think so

I found the old desert map

[acoustic osprey]

I know those ones were mods

[tame quarry]

Oh yeah 100%

Why does the isle legacy from lke 7 years ago look so much better man

Where did the mod support go

[echo gazelle]

kinda remember what you’re referring to but don’t remember the map it was on, also don’t think it was mosa but a liopleurodon iirc

[acoustic osprey]

where did wolf go...

[tame quarry]

Wolf ?

[acoustic osprey]

there was a wolf mod once

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder what happened to this place

going off observation of the 'outside area'
it appears to maybe be at the Atrium?

clearly the building though that was 'there' is/was definitely a prototype
does look very rough

[acoustic osprey]

also this
i am curious

is this like a Portal-esque thing?

is OLYMPUS watching us?

or will there be a way, whether realistically or in-lore, that generic ||for lack of a better term|| people can and could get there?

these are only, by the looks of it, in the GUTS 'junction section/modular-piece'

however, i did completely forget

they do seem to still have the plan for tinted lighting, which is good

i COMPLETELY forgot but now remember when Vis was going around and sending orange pictures

soon...

[neon gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-falling-bouncing-yum-fruit-gif-4897758

[hallow ruin]

100% is

[hallow ruin]

screens?...

[hexed forge]

Accidentally it seems.

[torpid roost]

elder omni can pin a fg pachy?

[hexed forge]

Correct.

[median shuttle]

terrain changes in the north atrium

[ornate comet]

You can get in there?

[plush widget]

In a server in which you posess admin perks, yes

[median shuttle]

the beams have no hitbox so you can just sort of walk in there and get a look, you cant physically enter

[median shuttle]

this is on ht

[plush widget]

oh

my bad then

[fast forge]

And now we know they have pipes running from the atrium to the swamp

In an ecological sense, wetlands and swamps serve as giant filtration systems for water runoff, filtering out excess nitrogen and other nutrients, chemicals from manufacturing, heavy metals, and disease.

So if they just pump water up the mountain from the swamps they are assisting the water cycle. It's entirely possible that south plains was much more arid before AE showed up

Also if you are going to have truly giant redwoods growing on a tropical island, they probably need a HUGE amount of water. In their native habitat redwoods can grow to such heights by having ambient water in the air in the form of fog. This saves them the effort of having to draw all that water up from the roots (think of it like drinking from a 15 meter straw)

[lethal moat]

Having artificial rain or mist cycles inside the atrium would be a neat touch

[fast forge]

It would also be important for growing those truly gigantic redwoods

[lethal moat]

Not only that, I’m thinking swamps might be artificial as well, they built a whole dam on the other half of the island, then redirected the delta with another wall

[fast forge]

That's true, I never thought about how much they have altered the water cycle in this island. The entire delta must have become flooded when they added the dam, limiting water flow into the ocean

Much of the swamps is separated from the ocean by a big berm, a small mounded banking hill

That may be artificial, or enhanced from a natural feature

[lethal moat]

I’m thinking AE drastically terraformed the island, mostly through redirecting water

But if we look at the island, take away all the water related infrastructure, highlands lake flows down to west rail access, south plains river might not exist, swamp might not exist, and water access is likely significantly smaller, or it’s a waterfall into the ocean

But rivers do be getting wiggily with it, which is why the triangles are necessary

[manic cobalt]

HOW DO I FIND THE GROTH THING TO MAKE UR DINO BIGGER IN GAME

[lethal moat]

THE WHAT NOW

[muted reef]

Admin

[muted reef]

The owl...he's slain

[median shuttle]

1. you start playing
2. you keep playing
3. you keep playing (if you die repeat from step 1)
4. you keep playing

[lethal moat]

He still exists in lorecord, the admins here are just doing a silly

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-beauty-prince-phillip-maleficent-dragon-dies-gif-15559658

[frozen totem]

WHAT IF...
It's just not finished yet

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-gat-bruh-cat-cat-bruh-cat-watching-gif-25243168

[fast forge]

Western Sword Fern

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
I am just curious about it

many of the buildings we see right now underground have connections to it somehow
this, just omniouslly, has a ceiling window which looks quite omnious

[acoustic osprey]

windows

[low scarab]

Strain plant?

[low scarab]

@hallow ruin SEE PORTAL REFERENCE!

[frozen totem]

Or it just isnt that deep

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, you're making it out to be that i intended it was deep

[frozen totem]

If im wrong oh well but i think its just wip

[acoustic osprey]

why would it be a wip though?

[frozen totem]

You're a deep fella

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, it would be connected to something
or we just don't ever have the ability to go up to it

[frozen totem]

Only dondi knows

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843708476487499798/1270889054954721280/attachment.gif

maybe maybe maybe

maybe the isle will know

[fast forge]

sword ferns are in the atrium dome now

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

How did you get in lol?

[fast forge]

they said how they did it like two lines later
#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Oh lol

[patent ginkgo]

I absolutely love how these things grow like weeds in their native range

[lethal moat]

Fake redwood is actually an observation tower

[hallow ruin]

OMG WHY IS THIS HAPPENING WITH ME 😭

[copper moat]

Ok, that is one sexy plant

[copper moat]

I live in a desert, any plant is a novelty to me

[indigo parcel]

Oh ok i thought you ment smth else

Plus there are some cool desert plants

[lethal moat]

Ferns are especially neat because SPORES

[thick oxide]

door to heaven

yes you can fall down i checked

[lethal moat]

Didn’t realize that was still around

[fast forge]

look up "alteration of generations"

legit one of the weirdest things plants do

[lethal moat]

I totally forgot Arachne was a greek myth

[echo gazelle]

i dropped a chicken down there for sacrifice once

[fast forge]

yeah I've flown down there as ptera

Going in there is pretty much a guaranteed death sentence

[patent ginkgo]

I just read about how Pothos plants (not the actual genus) don’t naturally flower, that was also kinda cool

[fast forge]

?

Pothos, but not the house plant?

[patent ginkgo]

Pothos the houseplant, which is different than the genus Pothos

Epipremnum aurea

[fast forge]

Oh I see

[low scarab]

Door to Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

where was this place again

if not at K15, i believe it'll be the same as K15
where it now has, although locked, a little underground passageway

[echo gazelle]

the outpost west of the dome iirc

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.islemaps.com/
which dome?

[echo gazelle]

near west access

[hexed forge]

H5/6

[acoustic osprey]

i see

i remember now, i always forget where it is

but hopefully, like K15, H6 and other bases start getting more 'underground tunnels'
I would presume (albeit, we can't be completely sure) that most, if not all, bases and locations would have some sort of connection through the underworld

Thinking about it

Chances that UI Overhaul comes with Evrima switch to main branch seems rather likely

a likely statistic that, honestly, makes sense

realistically
they'd want to get, generally, every piece of UI done

it would make total sense that, then, they'd just push it back to Evrima main branch with steam page remastered with that style

[fast forge]

it does feel like they are ramping up to releasing evrima as main branch

rex & trike, elders, the map is getting updated pretty fast now, UI overhaul, hypsi/dryo completion, etc

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!

and, seeing as elders were accidently put in
they must be working on them a lot more than they have been ever

so i do believe we're getting close

maybe in a year? MAYBE 2? But close enough to say it is soon
maybe a painful soon, but soon nonetheless

which is likely a reason to why we can't really seen anything visually lore for the past year
(besides, of course, worldbuilding)

Don is needed elsewhere
and they're working up for main branch

[hexed forge]

I agree

[prisma crown]

about damn time for legacy to learn its place

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

quite so
Looking forward to, in the long future, when Gateway is finally connected down below

[hexed forge]

It's weird how it was only for Omniraptor tho lol

[acoustic osprey]

we've never really had a fully fleshed out map before
so it'll be a first time

[hexed forge]

BUT,
I guess it makes sense since Omniraptor has been the primary "testing dino" for many features

[acoustic osprey]

quite easy to leave a thing or two
but, to be fair, Omni is their 'base dino'
so it makes sense they'd be testing on Omni prior to anything else

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[hexed forge]

It's a weird feeling when the features that many have been simply hoping and dreaming of are finally being added.

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

it is why I got really mixed emotions on my last stream about GUTS
we have NEVER seen something like this before - so all i'm going off is 'old' artworks and rough descriptions

we have zero clue how the devs want GUTS, properly
nor Gen2s
nor many other things

it is crazy

[bright shoal]

is this still in game or was it removed? idr seeing it in awhile

[acoustic osprey]

the location? Still there

the glitch spot? likely

[acoustic osprey]

not sure if this persons post was in Evrima or HT though

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/still-feels-weird-doctor-strange-benedict-cumberbatch-spider-man-spider-man-no-way-home-gif-25179373

yup

[echo gazelle]

it's back in HT apparently, took that vid not long ago

[hexed forge]

Things will get weird once humans are added fully... after 10 years..

[acoustic osprey]

it never left though...?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/finn-scared-breathing-terrified-fear-gif-9623358

[hexed forge]

Sometimes the most actually entertaining part of The Isle is the dreaming of when a feature will arrive

[acoustic osprey]

i think what'll make or break, for me with Gen2s, is them not having VoIP

[echo gazelle]

oh weird, maybe i didn't go into that door in the stable branch

[hexed forge]

Yeah that door never left

[acoustic osprey]

i don't know if you're talking about the open door or the location...

@bright shoal can you clarify please...

[hexed forge]

Hopefully they have it

[acoustic osprey]

the recent Kissen comment made me very cautious

[hexed forge]

Oh? What is it?

[acoustic osprey]

and will be the biggest disappointment if they only have Radio comms

[bright shoal]

lol the human base there i havent seen it in forever. guess i also havent been up that way since ptera removal.

[acoustic osprey]

We’ve been having voip conversations over the years but I don’t recall what we settled on. It’ll be coming up soon enough.

[acoustic osprey]

i see, yeah
Base i know has been there since Gateway
wasn't sure on the door

but apparently Cerato said door was there as well
so yay

[bright shoal]

yeah pretty sure door has been there since it was added, Thats the one inside the hill right?

[hexed forge]

Ah,
Well I don't think that's very concerning.. Well maybe it is..
Guessing they still haven't settled on the overall intended gameplay of humans..?

[acoustic osprey]

it is if the producer isn't sure about VoIP being part of the game or not

in my opinion

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/waluigi-sad-super-smash-bros-ultimate-wah-gif-11605196823861176959

No humans for the 10th anniversary 😔 (I still have hope)

[acoustic osprey]

it would be AMAZING if they put Evrima to main on the 10th

they do still have time
just, it would be a lot of pressure

[hexed forge]

We must have hope

[fast forge]

A year or two? I'm thinking months away. Don seemed a bit pressed to do work on the map, I think he said he did the whole savanna biome in like a week? idk my memory isn't the best

But I think it's coming soon

Elders seemed to be the main mechanic that was needed for evrima main branch

Getting the map relatively complete makes sense, along with UI stuff and a trailer

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of main branch?
I don't think it'd be a few months away, imo

[fast forge]

Elders was the main thing it was awaiting

[acoustic osprey]

is it though?

we don't really know what prerequisites are needed anymore, to be fair

[bright shoal]

Im thinkin evrima main branch possibly for the anniversary

[fast forge]

Map completion is probably pretty important. We only have a few more areas that haven't seen updates since gateway dropped

[bright shoal]

hopefully before it tbh

[fast forge]

We know domes are finally getting work, and GUTS

[fast forge]

This is a good question to ask. What is needed to push evrima to main?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1302787729079144548/Allo_Walk.gif

[fast forge]

Yeah I think we'll get allo

[acoustic osprey]

if only we knew
I doubt they'd want to tell us though

unless they make a roadmap trailer

[fast forge]

• Elder mechanic to complete the game loop
• Map is in a relatively complete state (always subject to future change as needed of course)
• Game performance is in a good place
• Graphics and sound design are reflective of design goals
• A sufficient portion of the roster is available for players (Trike, Rex, Allo, maybe others)
• PvE and environmental features?
• Humans? (Gen 1)

I dunno anything else? Bare minimum stuff here

[acoustic osprey]

it'll be quite hard to put humans through main branch
because there would be a lot to do

I would hope for Gen2s being properly functional with some sort of gameplay loop

but, i suppose, Main branch =/= 1.0

so they are not needed to make Gen2s functionally finished (or near such) by Main branch swap

[fast forge]

yeah, it's still a beta at that point

gen 2 is definitely needed before 1.0, but we are a ways from that

[acoustic osprey]

but in my opinion
Having Gen2s playable, Elders in and adding the 'apexes' would be a good point to say 'main branch here we come'

then, MY DREAM, would be making, then, a complete visual overhaul

new UI here, there and everywhere
because we know they would want to 'rebrand' (i.e. update) the steam branch

[hexed forge]

Honestly, probably

[fast forge]

oh yeah I forgot UI on the list

when is the anniversary?

[hexed forge]

HAHAHAHAHA

[acoustic osprey]

but i do not believe UI needs to be needed prior to Main Branch
unlike the list you give, generally

[hexed forge]

December 5th

[fast forge]

that seems doable

[acoustic osprey]

2015

[hexed forge]

yeah lets go back in time Isaac

[acoustic osprey]

to 2014

[hexed forge]

NOOO

[acoustic osprey]

and play the isle how it was SUPPOSED to be played

[hexed forge]

uh.. The Stomping Lands..

[bright shoal]

In Dons mind?

[acoustic osprey]

no

it existed in 2014
but only as a version you could own via the funding thingo

forgot the name

[bright shoal]

ahh i only got it once it hit steam

[fast forge]

fungo

[hexed forge]

Anyway my opinion on what they need for the branch switch is,

• Elders
• Humans
• UI

[fast forge]

no performance improvements?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe UI is needed for release
rather than prior to leading up to release

unless they want to release ALL those things with Main Branch

which i do not believe they will take the path of

[hexed forge]

That will come with time, this is just a branch switch, not exactly it leaving early access.

Performance improvements happen every update anyway lol

[fast forge]

I could see them, as developers, wanting to get the UI going before release to main branch moreso than it being a truly necessary feature

[fast forge]

that's fair

[acoustic osprey]

realistically, i see the opposite

especially since they will need to update and redo their steam page
it would only make sense to accompany the new in-game UI with steam rebrand

rather than just doing it in turns

[fast forge]

I kinda have a theory that the reason allo didn't get a proper animation in the dino selection screen is because they didn't want to put time into a new animation when the new UI isn't far away

[acoustic osprey]

then falls every HT...

[bright shoal]

i think we will get Ui for the swap, its turning over a new leaf i feel like. so theyd want it to look new and different when it goes main

[prisma crown]

Please let this be the case

[hexed forge]

The horses get tired now and then

[acoustic osprey]

why the long face

[hexed forge]

I doubt it

I believe that they just rushed to put it in lol,
Because then you could argue the same for why Maia wasn't in the correct place for the majority of its hordetest...

[fast forge]

I dunno some features they kinda drop on us with little info

Mutations are like that, we only kind of had an idea of how the selection would work, and the info that was datamined before it was released to us

[acoustic osprey]

Omnivores also had that phase, iirc
it could just be allo isn't very high up the priority when it comes to Rex and Trike development

[hexed forge]

^

[acoustic osprey]

omnisaur

[fast forge]

yeah maybe, or they put it in skin selector kinda early

[hexed forge]

I do wonder if they will push Rex and Trike onto the main branch before testing Allo..

Or will this become a repeat of the U4 Public QA Test

Lets break the record of 8 months

[prisma crown]

I do not want 3 playables in ht all at once tbh

[fast forge]

I think it was filipe in interview said they didn't want to do any 3-animal hordetests

But allo is a bit of a wild card so idk

https://tenor.com/view/iasip-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-charlie-wildcard-car-gif-17202047

[hexed forge]

I strongly believe Allo and Kentro are at the same development stage.

Both are finished, just awaiting balance testing.
So maybe they get put in the same test.

[prisma crown]

the “secret” dino

[acoustic osprey]

also harder for him, i presume, seeing as he has a kiddo now
but, they all work from home
so it would be easier than having an office to go to every day for work

[fast forge]

yeah I could see another HT that arrives shortly after rex/trike is wrapped up

[hexed forge]

mhm

The rest of the year will just be Hordetests left and right

We still haven't even gotten the Ptera changes 😔

[fast forge]

Yeah they seem to have so much near completion

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
that is what it seems like they want now

keeping the people spoon fed with HTs

[hexed forge]

Meh,

Throw it all into the evrima branch and watch it explode !

[fast forge]

Ptera is probably my most played animal, I want it on HT desperately

[hexed forge]

mhm

[fast forge]

they tried that with dilo/herrera, and we got the frogpocalypse

[prisma crown]

they even put pt changes in update log to taunt us

[fast forge]

did they?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-applaud-happy-cry-clapping-gif-18958303

[fast forge]

that was right when I joined this community

[hexed forge]

thanks

[fast forge]

like during the frogpocalypse

[fast forge]

there was another thing too

[prisma crown]

yea I think so too

[fast forge]

also stuff about thermals

[fast forge]

we eatin good this year

[hexed forge]

Glance sheets..
Sheets of glance...
Take a glance...
At the sheet...

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/697910542660010086/994265202071703613/unknown.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

[acoustic osprey]

just like GUTS stuff being updated
we can't use any of it, technically, LOL

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully Don meant that glance sheets will be last for once the Admin Hub is finished

[fast forge]

oh you mean like dinos have no use for GUTS? yeah

[acoustic osprey]

saying that
the 'science hub' (Lab IX) gets an official name

I wonder if the Admin/Industrial Hub will get some sort of a name?

[acoustic osprey]

more so that no one can use (enter) them at the moment

[acoustic osprey]

maybe some sort of grid coord?
simple identification acronym mayhaps?

[hexed forge]

I can't wait for someone to make a full map of the GUTS layout with all the names of the rooms and such.
Actually, scratch that,
We should be able to find a map ingame imo

[fast forge]

well yeah they are so unfinished a player might accidentally fall into the void, wouldn't want that open to the public

[acoustic osprey]

because, being an administrative place, it should have some sort of name

[acoustic osprey]

and, like Ptera, was referred to in the patchnotes as being updated
which i find funny

[hexed forge]

F5

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/843708476487499798/1270889054954721280/attachment.gif

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[prisma crown]

GW_F5 YAY

[hexed forge]

What are the chances that they just... forgot to enable Ptera.

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-really-eric-foreman-foreman-gif-15798566522776115933

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[prisma crown]

https://tenor.com/view/look-stare-face-mean-bruh-gif-27645430

[snow jasper]

Me

I do want to make my own custom styled map, but with the map constantly getting updated, it is pretty annoying

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
gotta wait till when they start hopping over to '2nd map' (IF, but i presume there will be one)

[frozen totem]

I do wonder how the common isle player will take gen1s first being released in a HT

[hallow ruin]

the "its just a dinosaur survival game" guys are gonna be so cooked

[fast forge]

I think most players will just be happy to have a new toy

Some of them are gonna whine
"why hooman in my historically accurate dino pvp game"

And I'll just point out the massive human structures that have been around since the beginning of the map

Although tue most common response to Gen 1 might just be "wtf is that"

But it sounds like the gameplay will be interesting with climbing and hunting and maybe some crafting, so I think that will win a lot of people over

"Is it fun?" kinda rules the day ultimately, and I think they will be

[echo gazelle]

wouldn’t be surprised if people pay no attention to their implementation and freak out once they see a human, i remember thenyaw they added tribals with a torch that would cause little to no damage but dino’s would religiously hunt them or care less

[mint igloo]

I have no doubt in my heart that gen2s will be an on sight for most dino players

-# myself included

[echo gazelle]

would be a fun hunt or maybe not who knows, curious how it’ll all go down, will be harder for larger dino’s to even hit one i imagine

[mint igloo]

eh something as big as an allo could prolly still get them easily imo

it's all I need honestly it's gonna be so fun lol

[echo gazelle]

yeah especially given mechanics, grabbing, grapple etc guess i still got that “bite and dead human” from before

[ornate comet]

One gen 2 vs the inescapable might of a charging carno hitbox

[plush widget]

Wonder what is happening with Gen 2s at the moment...

these were these guns showcased on the Dondi stream right before this HT started

I hope they enable them even for a bit

[snow jasper]

I pray

I wonder what animation progress has been made with humans with all the sorts of different reloading and the fact that you'll be having to load each individual bullet into each individual magazine

[strange shell]

I wonder if The Isle will make magazines and reloading realistic
As in, if you reload with 3 bullets remaining in your mag, then you're throwing away those three bullets (or, if you're not stupid, stashing them in your inventory with the rest of your mags)

[hexed forge]

hmm, perhaps

[snow jasper]

I hope we dont just throw the magazine away after its empty, finding an empty magazine in the jungle floor would be impossible after a firefight

[lethal moat]

Pocket

[snow jasper]

Dump Pouch

[lethal moat]

Big pocket

[snow jasper]

We have bandoliers

not sure how relevant these are because these are years old now

[hexed forge]

Probably still planned

[thin vine]

@lethal moat do we know the reasons as to why someone would voluntarily sign a One Thousand Lives contract?

like do we know whats waiting for them at the end?

[hexed forge]

We dont

[fast forge]

Functional immortality is my best guess

#isle-lore-theories message

Feel free to check out this conversation on the topic

jeez over a year old now

[thin vine]

i mean... if the ends justify the means, i can imagine AE doing it

i dont think AE is nessecarily evil or out to end the world, but i think they're aware of their situation (whatever that situation is, its clearly bad) and come across as a company that will do pretty much whatever they need to, to ensure they stick around

and to ensure they get the results they want

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-boop-happy-gif-431135646442387035

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

We've got theories

[snow jasper]

You as a human should know the answer to that in my opinion

Assuming you‘re human

The same reason as to why people would eat that mammoth meatball

[lethal moat]

My two favorite being either A, functional immortality, or B, those signing are dying and signing the contract benefits them someway beyond continuing to live, there has to be some other sort of incentive than the contract itself in my opinion

[snow jasper]

2 of many

Human motive can delve into the possibly insane and sublime

[fast forge]

a nice gen 2 body would be a fantastic thing for people with spinal injuries or similar disabilities

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-and-the-frog-dr-facilier-shadow-man-disney-shake-hands-gif-17859528

[low scarab]

the fact we have strain plants and an audio codex gives me so much hope

[thin vine]

inb4 they get to become part of the replicator

[lethal moat]

The year of lore is upon us

[low scarab]

lets hope

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-jim-halpert-hmm-doubt-it-doubt-it-doubt-gif-20978255

I mean, EIPs might technically be a part of the replicators systems, but I still think of them as separate

[acoustic osprey]

well
TOMB is part of the subsystems

so there is definitely an aspect where The Replicator responds to EIPs

[lethal moat]

I prefer to think about the replicator working with/on EIPs rather that the EIPs being a part of the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

So you believe

Replicator
|
V
TOMB (and other systems part of 'the replicator/the machine')

but
although TOMB = EIPs
There would be a sort of process for The Replicator to access and (potentially, depending on how they go) inject EIPs into bodies

[fast forge]

I just figured it's all kinda connected, or subsystems of an overarching network

And you just need levels of access to reach different parts (as a human)
Replicator might have access to all or some of it

[lethal moat]

It's all a system, and EIPS are products and materials being processed in the TOMB

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose it does depend on how autonomous The Replicator is
alongside how these systems have to interact with each other

is it far more bureaucratic that needs far more human interaction than what it may have been in Legacy

[acoustic osprey]

but how does The Replicator interact with these systems 'part of it'

is what i feel like would change how we see The Replicator as an "AI/Machine"

[acoustic osprey]

(in terms of the sophistication of the replicator as an AI)

[fast forge]

Not knowing the extent of the replicator as an AI, it's possible it started with a low level of clearance/access, and increased as it infiltrated the network of it's creators

[acoustic osprey]

being that, i still believe the replicator is 'some sort' of AI
just how 'sci-fi'?

[lethal moat]

The replicator is a system of machines, the ai can be just a part of that

[acoustic osprey]

i do wonder if we will see, somehow, how the replicator works to some degree

[fast forge]

yes

[fast forge]

if you think about it, aren't we all just a system of machines?

[lethal moat]

Yerp

[acoustic osprey]

the brain... the skin... the endocrine... the cardiovascular systems... etc etc..

[fast forge]

We see these as discrete systems because this form of compartmentalized idea allows us to understand these complex systems
But truly they are all interconnected with each other on deep fundamental levels
When we breathe we exhale carbon atoms that were once a solid physical part of our bodies. We are a part of the world around us, and vice versa

[acoustic osprey]

humans are funny little order-making and yet archaic peoples

[fast forge]

We put the world into boxes so that we can understand it
But I think it's important to recognize that while those boxes are useful, they are artificial, and the actual universe is more complex than our terms

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, we don't live in a true binary
everything is extraordinarily on a spectrum, a spectrum we cannot ever truly understand due to many reasons

[fast forge]

agreed

on the same level, where does "the replicator" as an entity exist?

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder if The Replicator is connected to these systems like TOMB? Is it 'all' in one big area? Or is it very loosely connected

[fast forge]

It's like asking where the soul is located in the human body

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose
if anything

'in the brain'
but, at the same time, trying to understand how artificial brains would and could work is pretty crazy

how does The Replicator see 'herself/itself'

is it stuck in some sort of human limitation (of how it sees and understands itself — all in some sort of 'brain')?
if so, is that made by the replicators creators? or an inflection of the society around the replicator

but, saying that, i don't presume the replicator has a human-looking body
so how would and could it see itself like how a human does or akin to? I don't presume 'the eyes' are near the brain

but saying that, who knows
machines are wack

honestly, Dondi could go anyway or direction with this
and it would still, to some extent, make sense in the sci-fi-narrative

with that, depending on how he does the intelligence side of The Replicator

https://tenor.com/view/finn-scared-breathing-terrified-fear-gif-9623358

[fast forge]

yes, so many unknown factors

[acoustic osprey]

the isle lore do be like that right now... haha

albeit, has been like that for ever
and anyone who things Legacy lore did it better
especially 'a lot better'

truly try answer Legacy's questions

all we know was that Legacy was a response to "in-game into in-lore (or vice versa)" compatibility

[echo gazelle]

"look to the sky at the right time, the path to gateway has been there all along" i still wonder about this

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy lore did have a lot of wonder though
Olympus Transmitter is something I do wish we had

but the many questions that it would bring again... we'd need to hope there isn't another recode lol

[harsh slate]

yeah its very well and possible that the replicator is simply a machine and doesn't have the capability to think in any regard and for now at least there's not necessarily enough evidence rn to say entirely one or the other. either way i'm excited to figure out which if we ever do.

[acoustic osprey]

but it was definitely from a time where lore was a bit more 'active' with the community
having small snippets every few weeks or so

definitely a legacy of legacy

where Evrima, in general, is far more 'bigger updates but more time inbetween updates'

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[echo gazelle]

the absolute dread from the morse codes to binary was pain but interesting to be apart of nonetheless

[acoustic osprey]

why the heck are there random chinese characters!! what do they mean!!

HellShades' document is a nice little preview into the past
but, saying that, so so many things that are gone forever

i am glad we have a community of people nowadays who have tried to archive as much as we can
to the best of our ability

THE ISLE LORE WOO

[echo gazelle]

had fun decoding this #isle-lore-theories message
and the morese during evrima release "this is just the beginning"

[acoustic osprey]

i was looking at the light on stream recently
I do hope we get something similar or something when we get the UI overhaul

[pseudo lantern]

nobody ended up checking out that flashing light rumple sent ay?

[acoustic osprey]

legacy had a lot of morse and binary, looking back at it lol
Evrima?

I think all we have is literally just SOS and B

[acoustic osprey]

which one

[pseudo lantern]

recent

[acoustic osprey]

which...... shenon

[pseudo lantern]

probabl;y 2 month..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mongolian-gif-24685364

[echo gazelle]

i saw that, seems too inconsistent but whos knows

[pseudo lantern]

i thought the same

[acoustic osprey]

i am pretty sure i tried it and nothing came out of it

[acoustic osprey]

(-...)
albeit, i believe it was just the end of SOS (...---...)

[pseudo lantern]

well that depends

[echo gazelle]

i attempted to do the hordetest ones but they come out the same "this is just the beginning", i got so familiar with that code i didn't even have to pull up the morse chart

[pseudo lantern]

was it dah dididit or dah, dididit

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
start from here

[pseudo lantern]

if there was a gap between the dah and the start of the dit it would've probably been the end of SOS but if there wasn't then that's just B

[acoustic osprey]

the whole tracks morse code is sloppy

...---...
instead of .../---/...

[pseudo lantern]

poop..

[acoustic osprey]

being that there is no gaps
I presume -... is just a 'bugged' part of the track

rather bugged in-lore or a mistake by the composer

don't know if it was Dimitrii or Anthony

[echo gazelle]

there's one in the codex?

[acoustic osprey]

no, sadly not
I WISH it was in the Codex

but it was in Update 4 and still in the files, iirc
so i just relistened to the recording i had when it was put in game

[pseudo lantern]

yeah i'd say it was just SOS but weirdified

[acoustic osprey]

the only 'normal morse' in that track

Is
SOS / SOS / SOS / -... / SOS

definitely has to be SOS
just bugged

[pseudo lantern]

or they really like the letter b

[acoustic osprey]

B !!!

[echo gazelle]

is this from that one from one of the towers done a bit ago?

[pseudo lantern]

NO that would be -... -.-.-- -.-.-- -.-.--

[acoustic osprey]

one theory back then was b442 !!!!

this was before PC was decanonised

[acoustic osprey]

yes
but also played if you went to the one of 3 (?) human outposts

[echo gazelle]

was it 442? thought it was 443 which was magna iirc

[acoustic osprey]

either or honestly

it was a very loose one
lol

https://youtu.be/gY1GVXZuhUc?list=PLs6fNgjYhmW5jT_XRTZOyj4NTD2cR3MJx
I believe it was in this track
the morse

i have fully analysised it with a spectrogram
but
I don't know if there is SOS on any other track
because i believe there are some alternative versions of this track

[echo gazelle]

interesting, yeah that one's definitely .../---/...

[acoustic osprey]

to note
I mean that there are several SOS'
with one -...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1359022141181263903/image.png?ex=681b8a3f&is=681a38bf&hm=291c7859820807127ab57860b252038318f260265858b168a67455307d2e51d6&

specifically 5 fully rendered SOS'
and one with -...

the -... is the 4th blue blob

[hexed forge]

Back at the SoS convo..

[acoustic osprey]

NOOO I'M SORRY

no Codex II got me going crazy!!

[frozen totem]

gang what if it's just music

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1369145872335769740/CannibalCave.gif

[frozen totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213231046783664180/1279994188687085660/qIFw2xe3.gif

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
the SOS is just SOS

there's nothing significant to it
because there is no context in it whatsoever, to be fair....

[frozen totem]

It's just cool spooky horror game music with a lil sos put in forthose who know

as my guess

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-pepe-think-pepe-the-frog-wojak-gif-13571840648507225174

[frozen totem]

Don is a good storyteller, but he isn't Tolkien

don't look too far into things

unless with good reason ofc

[acoustic osprey]

that is... the point of the track Joseph Crane...

i doubt there wouldn't be a situation where people would need to ring SOS

[prisma crown]

is all the lore done by dondi

[acoustic osprey]

I do not believe they had that track playing while they were needing to ring SOS

like animism or greek mythos / pagan mythos

of couse these 'events' didn't happen
but a lot of their stories are used metaphorically / figuratively to highlights things that have happened in the past

[acoustic osprey]

how so though?

[frozen totem]

As my astute observation stated

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
Don is far more cryptic
especially if you look at the discord during legacy

[frozen totem]

Idk im tired and need to take a shower