#isle-lore-theories
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Really hoping we get more abominations outside of the 3 strains and their signature creatures.
mmm
I can't wait until like, 5 years in the future, a new player loads up to play silly dinosaur game with his friends, spawns in as a human, and then sees the monster from Portrait of God hunched over little Timmy's body like a gargoyle
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Gen 2s be like
I need it
mmmmm
*1's
whos to say they even fully understand what made the replicator work
i wouldnt be entirely surprised if they straight up did not anticipate ALOT of what the replicator can seemingly do, and have no real idea (atleast by the time everything goes up in flames) exactly what went wrong with their little GEN1 weapon making demon computer
Speaking of Gen 1ās I canāt wait to figure out what role they will have in the ecosystem. I imagine it will be horrific.
I really don't think they fit in, they're designed as weapons
Potentially
But that feels, sort of, a one time thing
Not something they could replicate results on
Especially knowing that they've modified Dibbles, plants, etc
There is potential, it could happen
But... yeah
To kill
This is one of the first times in my entire islecord existence where the chat is this quiet for this long.
Oh wait, I'm in the wrong channel, kill me.
is there a public document of the lore? ive seen some people talking about it and im curious
It's in the pins
tysm
exactly what xenon said
pins are the best friend!
But if you have any questions, especially stuff like 'where did X info come from'
we can always give answers here!
Sure, thanks!
if the people in here can't help you, spam ping this man.
go to his house and wake him up if you have to.
and enjoy... i know all the documents there are made by insane people...
STOP
John Cake
I just red the entire lore documment and i can say it was peak
never thought the isle lore was so deep
but can i ask what is Olympus?
Itās some sort of Central AE or Apollo facility
If I were a betting man, it isnāt on the islands, or at least not ones with Olympus transmitters
Would be neat if Olympus was just a central server location, an archive, like the TOMB
Oh yeah, thereās a lot, and there some details that arenāt on the doc because we donāt know enough
i red somewhere that some herrerasaurus, now, with the ability of climbing were transported to olympus
or im tripping
Augustus was sent to Tartarus
In greek mythology, basically the opposite of Olympus
but i mean the herreras we have now
they have the ability to climb thanks to august
Yep
they were transported to Olympus , probably i read wrong im checking it rn
Dunno, maybe, I rather doubt it personally
Suspected for strains based off legacy stuff
i mean if they punish AE personal sending them in there its like throwing kids in a pool full of crocs
i dont think they will survive it
Are all of the islands weāve seen throughout the years ācanonā? Or is only gateway canon?
Depends
Currently only gateway, with others known
I really donāt think Tartarus is that bad yall
what if spiro was a rival company island?
I feel like itād be interesting if each island was canon, with each variation of the game being different testing phases by Ć, and each new island was them restarting for new results.
Iām willing to bet itās AE still, hoping for a spiro rework
Agreed, different islands for different simulations and testing
Never understood the spiro hype, it was a really boring map. I miss isla spero. Big ahhh map that never came to fruition.
Spiro is nostalgic for me, I was never around for spero hype
we only played a fraction of the map
but i agree i like gateway more
I feel like gateway is the updated version of spero
I donāt think so
Map basically imploded when they tired to put it in game iirc
Gateway has been an idea since legacy
Not literally, but design wise
Or at least a gateway (to Tartarus)
Old v3, my beloved. I wish we got a revamp, or at least acknowledgment that v3 exists in canon.
i guess tartarus is somekind of underground facility
Thatās the assumption
Itās where people are relocated when they mess up, so I assume itās an underground holding area for the malformed creations.
Basically a garbage can thatās alive.
what if ERRANT was triying to find the way to it? maybe he lost a familiar and tried to rescue him
nvm about the familiar kinda š ā¹ļøāāļø
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=67d13b41&is=67cfe9c1&hm=9ea25049ecd39b0912d174e3af4ce201f36f5aa8f09a4790c63ae8ff45da2bb5& Iām betting it was something to do with Olympus transmitter
We need more lore stuff, itās been a hot minute.
Yes
Hoping on a video with the release of rex and trike
The most weāve gotten is reaper? And even then, itās nothing substantial in the sense of lore outside of āoh itās coming to the gameā
The lore hunt was nice, we could use more of those
Iām expecting some sick cinematics, some actual lore stuff since they were teasing with the allo video, and a big allo teaser at the end (like with the familiar faces video).
Or maybe a spino teaser if dondi loves us enough (Iām delusional)
Thought that was a rex
It was, Iām saying something similar at the end of the next video for allo
Though they may not since allo technically has 2 teaser videos.
im very hyped for a new video
Again technically 2, though the second half is just a continuation of the first
I dislike allosaurus
Prank em John
Which incident? The abandonment of the island?
the gates, building and almost everything in the game its broken
Doberman allo, you were something. You probably deserved to get touched by tiny matriarch.
Did it all happen at once?
a tape of that incident
i understood it as that maybe im wrong
We donāt know, just trying to get you to think
kinda tripping today + my english is bad i end up confusing terms sometimes
I feel like that would be something most games, especially dinosaurs games donāt do, that the isle could really profit off of. Show what happened, show WHY the game is doing what itās doing. Itās something that primal carnage, carnivores, ark, etc really didnāt delv into much outside of old paper documents and destroyed buildings.
I personally think the island was intentionally abandoned
thats what i mean
At least Gateway was
Didnāt don say they want to do 7 maps? Or am I misremembering
similar to popy playtime , it shows a tape of camera records of the incident day ( i thought there was a big incident day in the isle )
I havenāt heard anything about that
Might be, we arenāt sure
Might be misremembering.
It was said a long time ago
If itās long ago, take it with a bunch of salt
It was like 2022 iirc? I agree though itās probably salty by now
question , what the hell is zeus hades and poseidon?
theyre greek gods
so is apollo
Entrances
do we know what theyre abt?
There are theories.
i think Hades might be the entrance to Tartarus as it was described as "hell"
Or perhaps hades may be the entrance to another place that leads to tartarus
Remember tartarus is within the underworld. Along with the basic part and Elysium
So perhaps instead of just tartarus it's an entrance to an underground system?
possibly
I think Hades, Poseidon and Zeus are literally just different entrances to access the various Scientific branches within a particular site (that is maybe on gateway)
As for Errant 291, my current theory is that they were just some "spy" that got caught, as for the sweep teams that were sent, I think that may be something unrelated to the incident but was nevertheless grouped as it was an ongoing event at the time. I highly doubt 1 person would be responsible for the disappearance of a unit of three sweep teams
I just hope these GUTS that we've been getting added to the map are able to help us piece together the story more
Im just going to go and throw a wild theory out and suggest that the current game we're playing takes place after the downfall of AE's presence and that Errant 291 was the beginning and that from here on out, there will be no more spoon feeding lore through Discord and that all we have left to work with is what we're given in game.
Like it'll be enough to send us on a rabbit hole journey in the in game universe, first by finding out the story behind Errant 291 through to the diminishing power stance that AE had on this particular site. Then all the nitty-gritties in between which is where we find out about stuff like the Replicator, Strains, Botany, Rivals of AE, In-Universe Companies, Ambitions, Various Research Bits, Specific Species Documents et cetera et cetera.
In terms of Lore, stuff like trail cameras, species glance sheets, I think that they only complement to the universe of The Isle while the main story which leads us to the present comes from Errant 291. Until we get camera footage of what happened to the other unit(s) of the three sweep teams sent through the Zeus Entry, then I am just going to call them complementary. I highly doubt that in terms of the story as to what happened will link Incident Report #āāāā: [AUGUSTUS] to the detainment of Errant 291.
Nevertheless, I am only theorising how the story will go on from here, and we have so little to go from that the two could very well be linked. Afterall, Augustus was documented in a way that seemed like it was done without AE's knowledge, so you could link them via the motive behind Errant 291 which we do not know, but im starting to branch off into theories that have no solid base now.
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chasing things around at Raptor Rock and being a Croc in the water next to Teno Rock š
no
selected for OLYMPUS
but potentially, firstly, put into Tartarus for replication
noticing the bit about 'additional replications remain in Tartarus
I like it
Interesting
yay
gateway is tartarus confirmed
gateway to tartarus
V3
Im just really hoping that the night this HT goes live to the main branch, the other species glance sheets are tucked away somewhere
yeah...
even though the security GUTS Hub would not be the place I'd expect to find an omniraptor glance sheet, so I also would understand if they're halted
hahahahahahahahah
Im talking too much Hope
bro... š
that was the plan right?
Maybe
There was never a plan
kinda maybe probably no
the only time we saw them (it) was in HUBS
which... aint out yet
And that was just a beipi glance sheet... š
ha
imagine if one of you guys gets turned into something like this with MatPat lol
i just thought of it, as soon as i pressed the gif
oh wait, Rumple forklift driver
yes...!
that is.. you..
It will be at least 10 years until any sort of official live action isle media releases so who knows.. maybe a lot of us leave by then... carried away by life..
(If there even is any lmao)
i meant more so put into lore than anything live action, tbf...
Shouldve specified...
i don't really imagine anything live action besides literal merch though
unless Isle gets super big
But yeah!!
In my headcanon YOU are already in lore sorry, its confirmed, Cerato says so
We can only dream..
yay
albeit something animated is certainly a possibility... whether that be 2d or 3d (probably 3d knowing seiza)
in terms if the sheet
I believe they're just different unique geological (potentially) entrances into Olympus CC
rather than into Tartarus
Tartarus may get its own unique (or samely) named entrances
HA
the people yearn for Apollo Files @ionic sable
He can't ctrl C + Ctrl V a couple navy and army units in an online board game for the winter turn...
he can't even record a simple youtube video ... š
real..
Hes asleep
With firefox open in the background..
Professional isle dataminer aswell..
lol
^
for once in his life
what was dons "answer" to why dinosaurs again
smth about climate change right
necessary and unfortunate
Dinosaur
he gave us something more though? and then was confused why we still havent figured it out
Dinosaurs
We should know in due time, I just hope I am alive long enough to see that happen ( no this is not another dig at the time its been taking )
hmmm, i think
just listing some possible reasons dinos could've been necesarry.
1 : A disease that dinosaurs arent vulnerable to is sweeping through the rest of the world.
2 : Dinos for some reason wouldn't result in Apollo taking a massive public L where regular violent tactics would.
3 : Creatures that would pose a greater threat to humanity than the dinosaurs needed to be countered.
4 : Apollo is ran by megalomaniacal sick in the head folks that believe they have the right of it.
- good tax deductible
it can always be an economical reason, sometimes... just not very 'story-like', but far more realistic
especially as they, as seen in the dibble video, do a lot of testing (several generations) of dinosaurs
It must be pretty good every financial year, replacing parts, purchasing new systems to broaden research etc etc,
also learning about creating ecosystems, etc
while they can also work on more long term stuff like EIPs
can fit the 'unfortunate and necessary' bit
could also be that technological progression eventually hit a dead end and they had to pursue biotechnological alternatives causing the "incident"
biotech alternatives to "traditional" tech are already being explored and had been since the 70's
is this new ?
acesible tunnel near radio tower
it just connects to docks
thought i discovered a secret entrance or smth, sad
still interesting, infrastructure can tell alot about an operation like the Gateway project
focus on customer relationship
is this about the botanic AE bussines?
i dunno if this is new or not ngl
marketplace assets
not to do with lore
pretty sure there is a divorce note too there
yeah lol
XD
not really
although technically yes
but the texture was supposed to be fixed
hopefully next patch
that feel when you havent even met the person in question but they already prepped a divorce notice, "Lady atleast let me sit down for lunch."
anyone have any idea what or where "caernarvonshire" is in lore?
found some interesting medical files in one of the buildings
probably made up or britain
wales to be specific
Fun idea: A singular reference to a failed project, named Ozymandias, no further information, thatās the only thing, let peopleās minds run wild
insanity
the welsh are at it again
(just a marketplace asset sadly)
probably related to or a failed iteration of the neurotenic strain given the usual associations with the name
ha
honestly ozymandias could work in reference to the big skeleton (island walker?) on titan lake
OH YEAH
ngl i'd be horrified if Ozymandias turns out to be "the incident" no longer letting people just live in the skins of dinosaurs but getting stuck as endlessly reincarnating animals
with the bits of lore we get here and there, they could still go anywhere with the story and lore
it could go full science fiction, or straight up body horror biological
Walter white customization in the isle
imagine that being the face of the scientist that made everything that happened possible after getting confronted with the consequences
I believe it will end up as a mix of the two concepts
They wouldn't blame him I don't think
"Whenever i look back at my mistakes, i realize i still have so far left to go" hits different on that kind of situation
Also, we know that not everyoneās consciousness took well to becoming an EIP
Augustus
Mayhaps
Didn't Don literally confirm he was suffering and trying to get their attention
Idk I remember that somewhere
remind me, what does EIP stand for again?
Blah blah blah human mind in dinosaur body
Embryonic intelligence profile
A human consciousness put inside a different vessel
Likely not in a way that went smoothly
Your mind would alter to the point you aren't human anymore
Far more pain and suffering than as a citizen
And will likely remain as an open end to AEās research
Actually hunting and killing and being glad that you do so to survive
For the good of humanity⦠maybe
We still donāt fully understand the āwhyā but I have a theory that itās a form of storage
I'm confused on how they went from managing climate to change to managing consciousness and prehistoric animals
(It's because the dinosaurs breath more Co2 than anything else on the planet and they release tons of oxygen!)
Tis the āwhy dinosaursā question, but broadened
Uh
I think it's because...why not?
It could be a test of how far their machinery can go
I theorize that itās a test of an environmentās ability to support extreme animal biomass
So "Why Dinosaurs" is possibly just AE pushing their limits
Doesn't feel all that satisfying...seems like theres more
Yeah
"Unfortunate but neccesary." Could've done anything other than dinosaurs...but they picked them
Thatās why I think that they simply needed the largest terrestrial animals to ever exist
Thatās really the special thing about dinosaurs
Why not make a hyper of some other creature
Yeah, but anything that's smaller than an acro isn't bigger than the biggest land animals alive today.
sounds like when i lived above the arctic circle xD
AE could've just said screw it and thought dinosaurs were cool to work with lmao
i personally think they made dinosaurs before hypers, and that hypers were discovered unintentionally
shoebills arent scary, they are adorable XD
given the situation with shirley and dean
Are their names (Shirley, Dean, Augustus) the names of the people they were before they became EIPs?
we dont know
I think they made hyper plants before dinosaurs
maybe
i like the idea that strains are literally the effect of various selective and mysterious diseases
some sort of virus perhaps
i mean
Neuro and zombie being a potential thing is .... interesting
really putting the strain in strain
Neuro being zombie instead of tisso surprises me
same
i really liked the idea of regeneration to the point of corruption of flesh
but hey
it means "carrier" makes a lot more sense now
Wdym
for Echidna
true
Wdym
so glad you can forward messages to the same channel it is on
I don't understand 
this is BAIT
just go to this gif
and find the messages sent
Are you talking bout like a hivemind brain thing
catag
just refresh yourself
Now...let me put on my tin hat
So...he put a strike when you said Neuro has a brain...and it's carrier whatever that means
Ohhh....
Infectious goo?
If thats still around
I wonder what Neuros abilities will be
Same for tisso for that matter...wonder if the stealth niche stays
Or if the part where it shrinks stays
Refreshed
Wipe the rust off
So we don't have big brain demons from legacy? Now they're...undead?
So are they like the Halloween zombies or something new
what
Neuro
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@muted reef refreshed
woohoo
can stuff that dondi say here be Cannon?..
i mean
that also falls under the same premise as this
"only through death will you be free of this place one thousand lives that is wjat you owe apollo"
which came from the same medium of communication
(in-game 'lore' messages)
yeah
but what was and wasn't lore from back then via that? Who knows
it is likely what he said here was canon
but
canon in evrima? No, unless he says it again
like this
it needs to be said again to be canon or not
would be interesting if it comes back in some way or form
don't know if it goes against what Don wants for lore or anything
also it demands that there be someone to actually archive what was said...
(and it only basically happened when Anthomnia and other big CCs played, from what I remember. But I can be wrong)
anthomnia, gamingbeaver, fisk(not sure if this is the name)
and few others, but it happened kinda a lot
yeah basically
i do wonder if we missed any
because, as you said, it happened a lot
and i recall people talking about it as if they happened a lot
not sure if it was 'copy and pasted' from Dondi
or just stuff he thought of on the spot
im very positive there is a lot of stuff that have been thought of on the spot
yeah
especially in that period
and some seem to be very... idk whats the word but too fancy to be quickly made
so its surely a mix
(but i have a feeling some were supposed to be Olympus Transmitter posts that Don didn't want to post)
definitely, agreed
hm. there is a chance
the one in my profile is surely something big to think of, its one of the ones i meant here #isle-lore-theories message
face of god right
yes
Did AE make Dinosaurs before gen1 and gen 2?
i don't think we have confirmation
maybe thats why they are unfortunate but necessary, even more with those stripes if they have dinosaurs with exceptional regen abilities that could work also to make humans with those regeneration abilities and potentially sell them for military purposses
pretty much more profiteable than botanic
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@acoustic osprey when he sees new lore
I miss beavers isle vids š
Real
pretzel thats a body š
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That's obviously a scam
idk what your yapping about
Everyone wish this man happy birthday NOW @acoustic osprey
@acoustic osprey happy birthday buddy
Thank you very much poop dunker 8000
It has been a very nice time since I met you, very fun conversations
Lol
@acoustic osprey Happy birthday boy š š„
Thanks man! I know you don't know me much, but if you stay here long enough... you'll know me more.... haha
five whole years!?! wow...
Get birthdayād
Happy Birthday Isaac 
5 years old? ban him from the discord asap!
I will, trust, have been following isle since 2020 and im starting to become a lore nerd
Hapy burdle day š
Do we need to begin... The Initiation?
someone slap this person with the lore document
Thanks Tiny! Thank you for your lorem here, has always been appreciated having alternative views on things... especially know how hectic we can be
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I shall have the burdle well
huh
stupid joke, don't worry about it
well uh you got pretty close
4 years
i got slaped in the first day, wouldnt mind a second time haha
Ah, this place is so much quieter than Discussion.
haha
always, yes
but you ain't in lorecord yet...
much more calm, quite so
People are freaking out over stats that aren't even out.
Which are subject to change.
Can we just recruit them so I can post the gif pretty please
How they got the numbers is beyond me.
hahaha
Im sorry
Thats my bad
I also just found out that its speed is a placeholder
Allo's stats are subject to change.
freeking
So...
lol
whats the rite of passage to get in?
uhhhh
Tartar?
(must say the last two letters)
Us
us
a link coming your way
another link coming your way
i swear i didnt read him
three links
Nee
Can I get a link I would love to join lorecord !!
I do love lore.
FINE!!
yay
Was Lorecord always called Lorecord...
I feel as though I am tripping over balls of my own wisdom
It was Lore Exploratory Team
ye
I had to dive in rumples old dm's for that
NGL, I hope Evrima's spino MAULS Rex when its in the water.
did you do something bad...
Isaac didn't even know Poop was banned from lorecord.. wow..
lettuce ask Rumple
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i am a bad administrator... although, i didn't ban 'em
usually they happen when i am asleep lol
lol
I'm gonna say it, discussion is a hell hole.
its gotten rapidly worse as of late
This is exactly why people should convert into Lore
NO
To be one with or to become
To be one with the lore
tartarus hole...
Carnivores can only become strains right if I remember correctly.
Carno, Giga, Rex and Spino are all dinosaurs with strain capabilities.
Me, I would also give strain capability to Allosaurus and maybe Sucho.
(recently Don said there is nothing stopping them, now, for herbi strains)
Hyperendocrin Herbivores might be really easy to maintain.
Im hoping all dinosaurs can become strains.
MAYBE NOT extra small tiers. Could make up an excuse such as them not being able to handle a strain injection. But would be fun.
haha
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if they revamped Type 0s even though they aren't no longer canon.
it would be interesting, certainly
especially if they do strains last
but i do want to know how they plan for us to obtain the strains
If its obvious, I don't care for realism.
||Unless its firearms -cough-||
lol
When spino rolls out, So many people are gonna complain its innaccurate.
hahahaha
yeah...
Fortunately the Isle isn't realistic, it's just grounded in realism but has the freedom to play around with things
Grounded? Like, The game ground- oh..
I love the design.
Dinosaurs don't have a copyright, only the design does.
I think even if paleontologists come to a consensus on the appearance of spinosaurus, dinosaur fans will still find issues with it
this ongoing chat makes me wish for a 2nd isle-discussion
(I'll add that paleontologists coming to a consensus on anything is extremely rare)
Aye
that's kinda this channel
....well, it shouldn't be!
Especially because we get drowned out in the other channel by people freaking out.
Not to mention the 24/7 shitpost flood from all the new members that have came within the past month
"Gone are the days of love and laughter"
yeah... they understand that 'x' appearance changes constantly
as is the way of science
but dinosaur fans... haha
That annoyed the crap out of me when i looked in discussion.
its been annoying me as well
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I can't wait for firearms.
Ah, firearms... I am eagerly waiting for those
I WANT MY REMINGTON 700
i think the rifle is based off of an m24 bolt action
People are gonna complain about guns even though they put themselves in a server with humans enabled
people complain about everything anyways
Musn't forget Human on Human combat
The remington 700 is the civillian name
Mmmmmm
The human condition is an interesting case
The choice of weaponry that we currently know is also rather interesting, a revolver, a pistol, a pump action shotgun, and a bolt action rifle. Even though, there are three in game modes for the placeholder basilisk, that being the Shotgun, Semi Automatic, Automatic modes iirc
Eee
I would worry if there is a 5th gun we don't know about yet and it being an automatic, but we know so little on how callibre will affect balancing across the whole roster
well normally this kind of behavior is curbed by social pressure, but with the anonymity of the internet people are kinda unleashed to whine about everything
Like, shooting a triceratops in the frill shouldn't do nearly as much as shooting it around its brain cavity, and the damage you deal should obviously correlate to the calibre. A 9mm against a pachy's skull probably wont penetrate, but this might:
Wait this game has lore?
No, im afraid the human structures are simply amenities for the dinosaurs ( of course there is lol )
I also know
Im not going to forget a name like Joseph Crane
The one and only
2nd*
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I would use a Remington 870 to hunt pachies. or the M24 with 7.62x51mm NATO rounds.
We might get an M82A1 Barrett
Either way, you dont particularly go for the head when hunting animals anyhow
The M82A1 is the iconic .50 Cal
I doubt
Search it.
I remember going elk hunting when I was a kid, they said aim for the heart
I know the gun, I doubt we'll get it sadly
Yeah, its in that rough area, just behind the animal's shoulder usually
Exactly, only time people go for the head is when they're killing humans.
or self defense, but yeah
Which is gonna happen a lot. You're gonna be growing and then hear an entire firefight like in DayZ or SCUM.
Squads that know what they are doing are more terrifying to me than any rex or trike.
The sound design for the guns is also something I am interested to hear, I'd love to know if they'd go realistic or if they'll go iconic
Guilty pleasure of mine with firearms is that I'mma use them to hunt mainly pachies.
Mainly cause I was there during update 4, 5, 6, and 6.5
I would prefer realistic when it comes to the isle, since iconic SFX for the firearms seems like it will draw your attention away from the fact the game has a major elephant in the room (Dinosaurs) but now Im going into the realms of dictating game designs and thats out of my hands
If you find any, not been able to find one since herrera and dilo released
i haven't seen pachys in a long time
When I do, they're gonna hear a gunshot and then the biomonitor on their screen go off.
I will particularly enjoy murdering the Dinosaurs while they're broadcasting, because it will just be interrupted by a gunshot and everyone will know not only that theres an armed human about, but also what the human just killed.
There's people underestimating the capabilities of human squads. Too many.
Did you forget i got banned
I'm sorry...
ur not alone š
hey new logo
!!!
Huzzah, recreated

what is huzzan tho 
Also tunnel is no longer texture bugged woohoo
So I wonder if we'll see that in further lore videos instead
Mmmm
Quite so
Gone is the days of this
still note, it isn't a replacement logo
just a "AE 2" logo (a second logo) @muted reef
Yay
Yeah...
What would you guys improve/change?
presentation
Better?
yes
"this game has lore?"
the lore:
No botany?
I subsituted it with agriculture, botany may be better
How much will Rex weigh?
9350kg in the files, subject to change
Fits the funny theory of company logos becoming more lazy and simple as time goes on..

(also as a potential link to 2200...)
Exactly
as it has that real retro futuristic taste to it
AE minimalism....
Too much evidence for it than against it
is this from replay
aye
is this official
aye
looks alright, i still prefer the older one though
mmm
it isn't a replacement though, it seems
which is good
just an alt version
if isle is in year 2172 why arent there giant rings in the sky
woah!
ha i got you now
I wonder if it'll be possible for servers to continue the Annual cycle after every restart, so if a server opened on April the 20th (in-game time). After the restart, it restarts from the time the server ended, so say April the 27th. This way I can see plausible ways in which Solar Eclipses, Blood Moons and other celestial events occur naturally in game. There could also be a simpler way and make it follow some sort of global tracker and if X happens, it also triggers the event in game at an appropriate time.
Ahem.
earth (?)
the weather and sky system that the game uses does have a built in feature i believe were it can follow real data regarding the moon and stars
and moon phases
yeye
theyd just need to make it save the date and time and moon phase and then make the server run from that each restart
Moon phases, 100%
Eclipses, maybe, they happen so rarely
Blood Moons, not seen mentioned by anyone other than dondi
Shooting stars, no
Speaking of which... there will be a Blood Moon over my head tonight.
Will also be visible over North America too
tomorrow
we rarely see anything cool in the sky in the UK because we are such a small landmass compared to other places
Most of the cool stuff seems to happen in the North, like those recent Aurora Borealis we had
When that happened my mates kept sending me photos of it and despite me living less than 30 mins away from them i couldn't see anything lmao
all i got was clouds lol
unlucky š
thanks
this makes no snese
snese
evening of the 13th here did not have no blood moon
i think its wrong
it should be inverted
as east side of globe (aus) is + GMT
not negative
i just think an american made this
no thinking with that image....
that would explain a lot lol
yay
there are bloodmoons in the isle?
Gateway is on Mars, you heard it here first
Where did u get this from
<@&933486433342222376>
Apollo Engineering didn't bring dinos back. Dinos brought humans back then the humans took over. š
The logo was available as an overlay among the new replay features
oooh this is peak
What tiny said
tony
Oh
friday pi day
3.14!!
25
What if dinosaur eated human
yeah uh dinos arent a thing
wait did you mean the genetic abominations engineered to look like dinos?
oh wait lore!
hm
naaaa fr? naaaaaah
where the hell do u live? heaven?
Where did the whole "they're not really dinosaurs" thing come from? Anyone have the original source on that?
That never existed
I'm pretty sure some of us just say that because they aren't actually 1:1 representations of dinosaurs
They are made in the replicators image
But I remember a whole conversation when I joined this channel and I was like "no dino dna went into making them?" and everyone in here assured me that they did not
i don't recall such
more so that it is more sceptical because we have the replicator
so having DNA could be a big maybe
because we have nothing on dino DNA like in JP
we have nothing regarding frogs DNA yea
but because replicator is very mysterious in its work
we cant assume anything
we cant really tell if its even an AI that literally generates life based on 2D images
u cant tell
This is where the idea came from, for me
Rumple
After that conversation I took them to be like a biological facsimile of a dinosaur, a chimera made using stuff like collagen from birds and proteins from mammals, or some other combination of features from modern animals.
Frankenstein's monster on a cellular level
i think, at least with Rumple, it comes from the idea of 'what makes something naturally X' alongside the idea of the Ship of Theseus
Thatās my assumption, yeah
See I had assumed y'all had some primary source for this, you seemed so self assured
I've been saying this as a theory for a while, didn't remember that it had come from you
Wait nvm there are mentions of that theory in messages above that
Maybe this? I feel like there was something else
We know the replicator is a system of machines, Iād say itās likely that it does multiple things simultaneously
And, by extension, being replicated could mean different things depending on the subject and the scenario
Like, replicating an individual and replicating a consciousness could be totally separate processes
We don't even know if it could replicate an individual, for all we know it only spits out dinos, gen1 and gen2
We know Augustus has replications
If it makes gen 2
yeah idk
I think as a concept it's more fun if it has that freedom, it could use Gen2 bodies for espionage
I do think itād make sense for the replicator to make gen 2, if the menu is the player interacting with the replicator, but I still am against the replicator having any sort of human levels of sentience or beyond
I think it should be similar to humans, but also different
Many magnitudes more powerful than a human in some ways, but still limited in the fashion of other robot and AI characters
Not a schemer, but it has goals and will find ways to accomplish those goals
Even in my experience with animals - consciousness and intelligence are kinda different for every animal, in my opinion
People tend to see intelligence as IQ, some rigid number
I think that it really is this broad spectrum of ways in which animals interpret and interact with the physical world around them
Intellect in a crow is different to intellect in a squid, and comparing their intellect is like comparing apples and oranges
We can say "well crows do better with tool use and octopi are better at spacial reasoning" or some specific qualifications, but broadly they are different but both useful
I donāt think the replicator should be able to think, I think it should be a semi-autonomous tool
I think it thinks after a fashion, like a modern AI prompt spinning up a response
I don't think it should think like us, in a free fashion
It has a purpose and all efforts are dedicated to that purpose
I suppose modern AI prompts don't really process the information to which they are responding
They are just looking up references from that initial information and finding the most common responses to it
I dunno, I don't know how an AI like this might work, honestly
Certainly more like the T-1000 than GLaDOS
I believe it could be capable to generate a āvesselā of sorts as a method of self preservation incase AE threathens to disable it
Would be fun if there was a vessel of replicator running around in tartarus
Maybe thats what the damn matriarch is
Idk replicator being a āmotherā seems fitting doesnt it
yes
can i come š
id say god
maybe
maybe
idk probably not
the chances are never 0
just gonna go out on a limb and say the "incident" was caused by australian magpies.
would make sense with the origins of mythical mother of monsters "Echidna"
The isle evrima is on an island but it was meant to be a park but the government shut it down for reasons we don't know......
The scientist that made the dinosaurs we're killed because they had to cover up everything
That's why there's abandoned human structures
Everyone left the island
yea no
the reserve was the closest thing to a ““park““ and it was only for hunting
me when a deal with the goverment
Why would they make dinosaurs then Hunt them that doesn't make sense
Check poop dunker
Facts
people would pay tons of money to claim they killed a prehistoric beast
read the pins mate
How old is the island
1980s?
When did the project start
I need answers.
Why are there no humans on the island now?
theyre not being developed yet
I always find it a bit funny the people who drop in here with no knowledge of the lore but have their own theories anyway
me when a unfinished game doesnt have what the finished game will
they'll be in game eventually
I hope it doesn't turn into cod lobbys
if only theyd read the pins before saying something... 
:(
I could be right we will never know...............................................................................................................................................................................................................
from what we know ur wrong
The Isle Lore Theory Document - Containing all keywords and information you need to know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
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I ain't reading all dat
Jk
Gateway is the gateway to Tartarus, which itself is a facility. Gateway is not a park, but there are other islands in lore
wonder if new spiro will be something
The isle is actually for Rich people so they can bet on their dinosaurs
And the longer their dinosaurs survives the more money they get
It makes sense
Because
The isle evrima is secretly a horror game
Because
Its a facility that they experiment on dinosaurs
That's why we got Trike
and that facility is called tartarus (propably)
They're making new dinosaurs
So new people can bet on them and win money
Kind of like squid game
Each dinosaur has a barcode
Kind of like the skin crater code
@terse hawk Please read this channel's description
How do I do that
My theories are very serious!
Click the text next to the channel's name at the top
My theories are serious?
I know
I'm spitting isle lore theories
The dinosaurs are made in a lab....

Dinosaurs are actually made by aliens bro
That's right because technically we are aliens
In the universe
There is no one that's not an alien
We call ourselves "Humans"
no everything that isnt from earth is alien, the definition of alien is extraterrestrial ie not from earth
aliens would call us aliens though
That's what I mean
yes but from our point of view we are not and can not be aliens
Alien means stranger
You're not a stranger towards yourself
does the concept art doc still exist or is it reduced to atoms
Purpose of this document. The goal of this collection is to provide easy access to the artwork made by āThe Isleā dev team. I noticed how all these pieces were scattered and could be a chore to find. This document is meant to increase the accessibility of the art so that they may be easier to sh...
This one?
ye thanks
<@&933486433342222376> look free steam gift card
oh boy, I love free money!
Man i didnt get to get it :(\
reduced to atoms
š
i want free money too š
Tartarus is bundles of fun, trust
Theyāve got a water slide
No wonder AE employees don't wanna leave
if you're in, you're in.
Think AE has employee cookouts n stuff like that? Like genuine question. Surely employee enrichment gotta be good, if they even need it.
maybe.
Ok thanks mobile discord for no reply
The water slideās name is called the Phelegthon, super cool
he is alien
no
Wonder what, if anything, was designed after Gateway was abandoned, like strains or whatnot
then how was gateway destroyed, strains are prob the cause of that mass destruction i wonder how anything else could destroy those giant fences besides explosives
also if we are going to have humans as playable does that mean gateway isnt completely abandoned or they just left the replications there, or... ahhhh to much possible scenarios
mmmm
maybe with strains
I say maybe
My specific thought was strain adjacent or humanoid strains, potentially gen 2
mmm
Cause hey, Gateway isnāt the only island, and I doubt they all are abandoned at the same time
saying that, i do hope each 'island' is a different point on the timeline
that would be, non-linearly, very interesting as a dynamic of piecing up lore
lol
imagine if every island was a playable map and not only lore, instead of telling us the stuff they just make us explore it
that is the plan, hopefully
although, not every island (like not every thing) may likely be exactly playable due to the gameplay design of The Isle
like the hunting lodge may never come because they just simply don't think it'll fit the official experience
which would be sad
Gimme the reserve
the good thing is
even if we don't get that type of stuff officially
that we may / would get some 'solid' information for ourselves to make them
Fan made lore accurate maps sound super fun
exactly!
I am going to make an isle map, on the moon!
woah
i forgot that we will be able to build our own maps, and with mods there are even more posibilities to remake them with new models and textures
exactly
jurassic park maps are going to be fire tho
ha, that would be cool
(of course... not isle lore....)
but having an Isla Nublar survival map WOULD be sick
Devs, give me TI forge and my life is yours!
make an Isla Nublar isle map mod
only human playables
and base the gameplay like Sons of the Forest (but JPed)
my dream
mmmm
or terror maps (maybe underground facilities with barely any light ) where theres only gen 2 and gen 1 playable
ohhh
a fully underground map WOULD be sick
I want a fully urban map š
Dinos in DC
give me that commerical area in the reserve
Employee housing vs customer housing
i want to imagine something like North Korean tourism
but... i doubt it'd be like that
I was picturing something similar, kinda like Disney world, or cruise ships, it's all about the customer's experience, the employees are there to make money
mmm
I want more replicator x gen 1 info, OR more cybetnetic stuff, so that I can reappropriate (steal) 40k adeptus mechanicus stuff to use as isle references
Info on the Holy Wars thanks
yes please
more corpo stuff plz 
I still donāt think that was referencing anything specific, more so a comment on the current thought experiment we were having at the time
How long do you think the secret of such a technology is kept? How far do you think an external party or parties would go for a literal technological fountain of youth?
How well do you think the average God fearing human would take that information?
There are many who donāt fear god, but yeah, if the replicator is also not localized, it may be possible to split it up so no one group has all the necessary components
OH MY GOD NO ONE TOLD ME VOLCANO ENTRANCE GOT A BASE
Not the biggest, but it is there
whats the point of this huge grid wall
a few weeks late ts1... i swear you said this already...
i might, im kinda not focused
oh
wait till u see the expanded cave inside volcano
biggest cave in game rn
also i hope those pipes at upper left will be a way of traveling with small dinos or gen 1 crawling
to ambush people going inside the tunnel
oh ive seen it ive been there
OH BOY THATS GONNA BE INSANE
alien isolation vibes š
You have awakened the creative spirits of the realm. Thou will be done.
is this still planned?
this was wayy back then
around 2021
when humans had an undersuit
i mean scuba seems to still be planned based on concept art
My guess is probably
Maybe
this body suit?
yes
i yearn for the new ui
i
The lorelings are rabid dondi, for the love of god feed them
the lorelings 
Look at him, heās foaming at the mouth
me too
wonder what the new tab screen would look like
Same
pure adrenal frenzy without any regard to our own well being, we will chew our way through steel wire
I yearn for the ocean update
hate to say it but we might not live to see that day
Same
gore seriously needs some attention but idk how they plan to pull it off
technical debt kills a lot of cool dreams
and I think don is well aware
I know but we shouldn't still be having pizza slice meat chunks and bodies going from having plenty of meat on them to a poorly textured skeleton
Also scars would be goated
This is all you'll get!!
2172!!
:(
im pretty sure yes
its named "default" in game files
suggesting its what u spown with (yes no naked john cake please)
NOOOOOO
who knows...
Anyone have that video of a ufo in the isle?
in this episode i discover a new cave still in development , and a UFO visits the isle!
wah oh
woah oh oh oh oh
yeah, this was a mod
THE ALIENS!!
Surely AE uses nanotechnology to some extent, beyond just Crispr and RNA
potentially
If the time period extends all the way to 2200.. probably..
Nanotechnology already exists
But not at a great extent
Like we dont see it everywhere.. I think
In 150 years time it'll be unfathomable
Ngl I'm really hoping the game is set in modern day rather than the future but each are cool
How do you think vaccines work boyo 
Well, mRNA vaccines
isnt this exactly 150 years from 2022
the year that document was published in real life..
this kinda makes sense..
What about it
I just threw out 150 as a general amount of time
iirc its more like the 1990s but whereever i heard that from was years ago now i think? lol
it literally is 150 exactl;y
Not the actual game but the lore
Game takes place who knows when but a lot of the lore and operations were in the 90s
Potentially up to around 2200 aswell
legacy was 2017
Hmmm this games lore always get me so excited
We know they had up to date software as late as 99
I need to remake the obsidian lore outline
mmmm
quite so
i wonder if we'll ever 'know' the 60+ pages of Don's lore doc

preferably, no thank you.
lettuce learn
but a person still thinks...
Iād rather claw for information out of game
Lore hunt!
Have a troodon get itās grubby little claws on a key and a specific entrance
I didn't redownload Obsidian on my new PC yet.. uh oh..
2080: The Isle is shutting down.
Lore Hunt for Dondi's Lore Hard drive IRL around the world.
wah oh
Lol
Definitely
Exactly
If the pay is the same for both, or even if itās not paid but food and drink is supplied, sign me up
That actually sounds like a good business idea, who wants to invest?
@carmine sail was it ur troodon horde that we just wiped XD
erm ts1
My horde died like an hour ago
wrong chat sorry
oh yeah its the mixpackers horde mb
wow
the frothing madness continues, must have lore must consume story
about the boats, well i am a grandmaster artisan woodworker... we'd need a location and the materials
lol
Ships?
Potentially of Theseus?
ships boats stomach flue and cluster headaches XD my bad probably didnt translate my degree very well either but yeah if you guys want i'll build just give me a spot on the Drakkar
i wish i was skilled in carpentry and generally just wood
the amount of medieval and antiquity replicas i would make
if you ever need tips or info about it just message me and i'll do my best to give you something useful, though it'd be absolutely sick to see a Nordic inspired map at some point even just wrecked ship somewhere deep in the ocean.
That said segwaying back into lore, you guys think there is a branch of AE that follows Nordic naming traditions?
ha, having something nordic in the game would be quite something
failed projects from the past like the titan in legacy or the reapers possibly being involved in the incident reminds me of the Fettering of Fenrir.
wouldnt surprise me at all if that huge mistake was later called "The Ćdin's folly"
The incident could also refer to something so simple as "Rich hunter got got" and damaged AE's reputation to the point they had to abandon the islands
especially with the "All Father"
(which, sure, Zeus is basically anyways... but that name is only really said about Odin... Which was interesting)
||as much as Isle has Greek references, we still do see Roman, Abhramic-related and, as said, Norse references... ||
yea been noticing more similar connections between tiny parts of isle lore and the Nordic beliefs, the most likely thing though is AE exec's just really liked having mythological references
then again we've already learned the hard way that applying okhams razor to Don's ideas is just not how we will get our answers theres something deeper to it
tell me if im down the deep end with this, but what if the "All Father" is the counterpart to the replicator?
A genebank from which the replicator could synthesize dinosaurs
fits the name and would connect the replicator to the "Mother" or "Echidna"
what about me
Wasnt allfather magna rex therefore not canon
its never too late start something
Oh hey, I realized something the other day
We theorized in the past about the smoke coming off the top of the volcano, and whether the volcano was active
Well now with that pocket of vegetation in the caves up there, that "smoke" can be explained by condensation from the trees and plants and water source
I've seen this happen above forests, especially in the morning and evening