isle-lore-theories

[slate sail]

what is this?

oh replay effects

that's neat i've literally never seen them

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[hexed forge]

oh hey look whats in the files for humans

@acoustic osprey The new outfit ! @snow jasper

New boots as well

[frozen totem]

dayum!

[lethal moat]

That shirt looks like something someone who’s never lived outside the city would wear to go deer hunting

[frozen totem]

[gusty vessel]

Any theories on when the servers are gonna come back online fellas

[icy onyx]

When AE feeds their hamster

[misty timber]

its a MARPAT undershirt, a lot of "tactical" bros wear its surplus to look like operators

[acoustic osprey]

Already in there...

[acoustic osprey]

I love foreign surplus!

[acoustic osprey]

This is cool though

I don't mind it over just full camo shirt

[misty timber]

I agree, I love surplus

I'm just poking fun at a certain type of surplus buyer

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hallow ruin]

yeah i saw these last night they are awesome

the rifle is sadly is bald with no additions

[muted reef]

So you WILL be able to change clothes...neat...but do you find them or spawn with them is the new question

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-toilet-scene-hank-revealing-gif-18042867

The island just doesn't look that old...unless it wasn't abandoned in the 90's

[acoustic osprey]

Likely find them
As per was said......

[muted reef]

Neat

[acoustic osprey]

To be fair
Is all the weathering done? Because in the concept art they were more weathered

[muted reef]

If the island is almost 2 centuries old then there wouldn't be dried blood and boot prints in buildings...that would have gone long ago...so yeah it's probably not done

[acoustic osprey]

Check again

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say 200
More so personally 20 to 40 years

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/there-you-go-gif-5168124474633697819

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

[muted reef]

That's what I'd assume as well...but 2172 is still a number out there

Also would AE really go 200 years without updating their damn software

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347232022757642251/1347236152092135555/IMG_6623.png?ex=67cbbfb1&is=67ca6e31&hm=52e908ddbbdb8b2c93585451e592b651006c6faa87c89f2f79ad482f81a62c46&
hoping for when Buildings get this lighting properly

[knotty locust]

have you guys seen this at the east plains pond cave

just checked each corner and its a wall

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

has a cool point of view...

ignore the saturation...

[crisp plank]

how did the dinosaurs come back to earth?

[lethal moat]

They were made by Apollo Engineering

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit A good amount of initial questions can be answered with this google doc

[crisp plank]

Thank you dude!!

[kindred bobcat]

Woahhhhh

Wait this is in rn?

[acoustic osprey]

aye
F1 in replay

[kindred bobcat]

Cool

And uh, is there any hint of that this is a thing? Or would a player just have to stumble upon this

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

Tbf we don't know if Errant 291 took place on Gateway

And second we can't confirm if their software changed in the event of 291

So we can't just say "AE didn't update their software since the 90s"

Since there is no mention of any software in 291

[acoustic osprey]

however, we don't need to

[frozen totem]

Train station?

[acoustic osprey]

the use of a typewriter (the actual documentation text) itself shows us a rough position of tech

it clearly has to take place pre-2000s

[acoustic osprey]

maybe, but it is in a cave

[frozen totem]

Btw my stance on the 2172 thing is just a mish mash of numbers don put to fill a space

[frozen totem]

GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

for the year, i do agree

[frozen totem]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
if anything
I shouldn't say proper cave

more so just in an 'open' rocky section next to a large rock at east pond

[hexed forge]

I mean....

How would Don replicate a hypothetical format from 2172

[frozen totem]

Ah, idk then

[hexed forge]

Also I feel like Don would've corrected us on 2172 by now

[frozen totem]

Anyways im iff to make coffee and get ready for school, cya

[acoustic osprey]

either, one, 2172 doesn't exist
they use an alternative calendar system
or they make it appear 'futuristic'

[hexed forge]

Instead of letting us go insane with it

[acoustic osprey]

or it is another case of the herrera outline
where it really doesn't matter to him that much
but it does to us because... we're us lol

[hexed forge]

😔

Mystery lives on

[acoustic osprey]

line how he thinks he answered "why dinosaurs"
(unless that one statement was an answer?)

I don't think he cares about those things as much as we do

... maybe a sign we're looking at it from the wrong angle ...

(i.e. the date don't matter)

[median furnace]

maybe don is just trolling

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

OR

maybe it does matter to some extent
and Don hasn't seen us discuss about it properly

in our (lore) prime ||I'd argue was about a year ago|| we would always be chatting
almost as badly as isle discussion at times

which i felt like we discussed a lot each session
i don't think Don had nor does have the time to read everything

... unless we ask him

[hexed forge]

I hope that's the case

[acoustic osprey]

this is the point where an interview for the podcast would be very interesting
maybe not asking hard and big questions
but more so little things we'd care about and legacy things (maybe)

[hexed forge]

Yeah that would be fun

[median furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-sleepy-gif-9558558281283765110

[hexed forge]

"So anyway Dawndi when does the allosawus come out dawndi"

[acoustic osprey]

I'd certainly like to
Sure it might be awkward but heck, i don't care! An interview is an interview

[acoustic osprey]

Dawndi can you type t in the chat for me plez

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/hBppJAGwIHE.gif

[hexed forge]

Dawndi is the isle a SCAMMMMMMMMMMM

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[hexed forge]

We summoned Dondi

[acoustic osprey]

only person i can blame is uh

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

today i shall blame @chilly thistle for trying to play the isle yesterday

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

or the other day
big mistake

gen2s are not out yet

[hexed forge]

Actually I think we might need to blame you for getting a new mic...

[acoustic osprey]

actually that is true

[median furnace]

tonight on the isle lore , gen2 dropkicks matriarch into tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

chaos theory is a thing
therefore butterfly effect

this was it
the cyclone from the butterfly

saying that, a cyclone is about to hit a few hours north of me

[median furnace]

gg

ur cooked

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/a-man-with-a-van-top-gear-gif-14820760813738405694

[acoustic osprey]

I'll be fine! seems like the cyclone wont travel this far south

but there is something really interesting in the weather patterns down south west of aus

which is way bigger than that cyclone

[median furnace]

its gateways big ahh domes breaking the wind

youre australia right

[acoustic osprey]

enter: Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes i think of myself as australia, but yeah

[hexed forge]

It's a Neuro Allosawus, alllooo shall be released YESTERDAY

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xingxing-xing-xing-xing-macaquinha-macaca-gif-10399735014109140616

and you say you want a glance sheet in-game huh
now we gotta wait another year!

although... i am no better

[hexed forge]

It's just... neat...

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message ...

[median furnace]

the feathered ones did not do this

[hexed forge]

Sorry that was TheAllo

[hexed forge]

Yeahhhhh

Cool lore details

[median furnace]

eggsactly

[hexed forge]

No way Dondi is live just as I'm about to leave 🐟 😔

[acoustic osprey]

is he? lol

i always suppose i can play kcd2 while watching him

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

thank you cerato!!

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-tfatws-sebastian-stan-james-buchanan-bucky-barnes-i-didnt-do-anything-gif-22026663

[stiff lintel]

9x19mm handgun

[stiff lintel]

OOH IS THAT THE M24

7.62x51mm NATO

[median furnace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212528993283088384/1228863090368450592/ezgif-2-db49a54415.gif

prolly not nato rounds

[acoustic osprey]

so yeah
Don stream did not turn out how i expected it to turn out

[valid geyser]

I missed it, something significant happened?

[acoustic osprey]

chat happened lol

[maiden sundial]

What happen

[maiden sundial]

What did chat do.

[valid geyser]

…what did chat do..

[acoustic osprey]

not in a good way

lol

[maiden sundial]

What the hell did chat do. Walter.

[maiden sundial]

We shared a braincell for a second there

[valid geyser]

hehehe

[acoustic osprey]

literally one whole argument of 'BALANCE! BALANCE!' of 5 or so guys
while don was quietly streaming with nice music

[maiden sundial]

He's become zen

He achieved inner peace

[acoustic osprey]

he was

[maiden sundial]

Oh...he got angry?

[acoustic osprey]

he just sounds burnt out about it

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

[maiden sundial]

Poor lad.

[acoustic osprey]

aye

he should just stop streaming
not worth it

[maiden sundial]

Dondi if you reading this, here's a simosuchus to take the edge off of the insanity

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

It helps me when I get super stressed out so I hope it works for you too

[maiden sundial]

Honestly i wouldn't blame dondi for getting annoyed. If 5 people kept arguing about balance for a whole entire stream. I'd be angry too

[acoustic osprey]

neither

[maiden sundial]

He didn't go ballistic right?

[acoustic osprey]

kinda

he did a metaphor about coffee
it did get loud

[maiden sundial]

Reasonable mini crashout honestly

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

I'm assuming a metaphor about people being bitter like coffee?

[acoustic osprey]

no

"X" buys coffee
"ew this is terrible"
yet comes every day and buys the same coffee and complains

[maiden sundial]

Ah.

Rn I'm watching him painting some of the beaches.

[acoustic osprey]

way better rn yeah

[maiden sundial]

It seems calming for him i think, can't hear the audio rn but it seems to be the case

[river marsh]

Terraforming and being creative is typically very relaxing ^^ ive found a good way to avoid burnout on big projects is to keep switching to different areas over and over. Gives you fresh eyes too

[low scarab]

What if the gen 2 are created fully mature and then given an eip that’s been tampered with or otherwise indoctrinated

[median furnace]

yea i think thats what they are lol

raising them like normal children would be risky

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[alpine lynx]

gen 2’s are mostly coming out of the replicator as a grown man

otherwise it would take alot to grow em

[plush widget]

what if gen 2's are stacked up like that and just given eips

"activate" them in a sense

[hallow rover]

whenever someone mentions gen 2s all i can think about are clones from star wars😭

[median furnace]

maybe the reason most ae employees dont want to leave is because they get a gen2 body that still looks like them but faster stronger better?

[hallow rover]

I always thought that gen 2s would be something that the average AE human employee wouldn't know about. Creating life and the dinosaurs is one thing, but creating artificial humans that could act as an element of your workforce would surely bring a lot of unwanted attention to AEs operations if it was widely known. Thats how i always thought of it anyways

[paper stream]

how much does a trike grow in evrim?

[hallow rover]

prob best to ask in #isle-discussion but from what i hear between 7 to 11 hours

[fast forge]

this has been my thought for a while

[median furnace]

theres prolly more to it but i remember (maybe don?) saying that the employees prolly dont want to leave and that they wanna stay in ae employment

me when REDACTED and REDACTED due to reasons of test REDACTED

[barren ruin]

i remember something similar, along the lines of "What if they don't want to leave?"

its also interesting that most of Apollo engineering follows greek naming but there are also things like "Project : Allfather" which sounds very much norse

[median furnace]

wasnt allfather magna rex therefore no longer canon

[barren ruin]

unsure havent had enough coffee yet to be properly awake but will check once i do

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Meanwhile magna likely comes from the title Magna Mater
The Great Mother, Cybele

Although a latin phrase

[frozen totem]

replicator(?)

[obtuse pond]

server restart?

[lethal moat]

We love the ripplegator

[frozen totem]

Nono i meant are the gen2 even made by the replicator or are they sent from off island

[acoustic osprey]

or a system similar like it by AE off-shore? Who knows

[frozen totem]

mayhaps

[acoustic osprey]

if AE could make The Replicator
then they could surely replicate 'the replicator'

maybe it is a case of the 'key scientist' being killed or mia?

would be a very interesting subplot

[frozen totem]

well yeah, but the same replicator making everything on the islands probably isnt making the gen2 being sent to the islands(for whatever reason they are being sent)

[lethal moat]

Is there a reason it can’t be both?

[frozen totem]

you tell me

[hexed forge]

Its both

(Extremely likely imo)

By island I assume you mean Gateway

[frozen totem]

islands plural

[frozen totem]

yeah

[hexed forge]

I definitely think Gen2 are made on some other AE island/facility.

[barren ruin]

excellent point, it could be sheer misdirection and still based on the magna or alma mater

[acoustic osprey]

alma mater is a bit of a general/broad term though

but the name would definitely root from Magna (mater) at least

although, it might just stem from Latin Magna (ignoring the mythos title/epithet (forgot it if was one or not))

[frozen totem]

it's a school's slow mournful song

[acoustic osprey]

that is unless we decentralise the idea of The Replicator being more sentient like an iRobot or GLaDOS

[acoustic osprey]

i think that is due to the later chrisitian influence of the Prima (the first) donna (lady - that being Mother Mary)

but i don't know the song though

[frozen totem]

alr philosopher man

[frozen totem]

its not one given song

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-sleepy-gif-9558558281283765110

[acoustic osprey]

THANK YOU!

[frozen totem]

its just whatever song the school band director picks

i know ours isn't original

arranged by a student, but not an original piece
anyways, isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

ah like Sub Tuum

is it in Latin?

[frozen totem]

i believe so

[acoustic osprey]

makes sense

[frozen totem]

latin es cool

[fast forge]

German is cooler

[frozen totem]

Bach

[acoustic osprey]

latin cases...

[fast forge]

Deutsch ist sehr cool

Ja

[kindred bobcat]

wait how did you access replays? Mine are locked

[acoustic osprey]

waiting a long time...

if you log out of the game (turn it off) you have to wait 30 mins still

[kindred bobcat]

The game needs to be on?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

why....

[acoustic osprey]

an isle moment

[hexed forge]

This has to be a bug.. right..

[acoustic osprey]

probably a fail safe
so you don't log out of the game and get your replay

tbf, sometimes it just takes 5 minutes if the replay is old enough
but the whole system is a bit wacky

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[fast forge]

you could potentially use it to scout enemies if it didn't have that timer (and there is no queue)
Log out, scout around in replay mode, log back in, go to the location where you saw another player on replay

[acoustic osprey]

woops, that is what i meant with this

[crisp sedge]

Is there anyway for me to see the full lore (or at least what’s speculated) for The Isle? I’m only able to find small fragments of information atm

[acoustic osprey]

depends
there is certainly a few ways now you can see 'roughs'

like an iceberg, some videos, our document in pinned

i can send some of them if you want

Lore doc
Iceberg
A video i have done (currently i have two, and in the process of my third)
A video by 1tinydinosaur

you might need an account for the iceberg
so here is the photo

however, this iceberg includes LEGACY stuff as well
so use with caution

hope this helps

[quartz sundial]

"B"

[acoustic osprey]

thanks...

in reference to a morse code track
literally said SOS and B

[quartz sundial]

what could it B

[acoustic osprey]

NOO

[foggy grotto]

what about the dev blog creature

[pseudo lantern]

yuh what about it

[foggy grotto]

the reaper

is it apart of the lore

right ?

[pseudo lantern]

yes

the reaper is a genetically modified bioweapon (potentially a gen1 with the tissoplastic strain) made by Apollo Engineering

[foggy grotto]

so we the player/dino are just assets to the company

apollo

[pseudo lantern]

assets..

[foggy grotto]

i saw a ss that said we owe a thousand lives to apollo

[foggy grotto]

everytime i see a vid on the dev blog of a new creeature coming it says "asset/ new phenotype"

[foggy grotto]

we are just an asset and we owe a thousand lives to repay apollo for that

specimen V-76 whats that]

[pseudo lantern]

from what I could find, the thousand life contract is legacy lore which may or may not still be applicable

[foggy grotto]

o0hh

[foggy grotto]

?

is that the hypos

or sum

isles 76-32

what i see is a giga type dino w some things coming from its neck and chin

ohh yeha]\

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[pseudo lantern]

isaac do the lore questions i dont know enough lore

[foggy grotto]

"only through death will you be free of this place one thousand lives that is wjat you owe apollo"

[acoustic osprey]

User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens

we didn't really know if it was a bioweapon

[foggy grotto]

woah

[acoustic osprey]

especially in the case of Legacy, that is

evrima? who even knows...

[foggy grotto]

i heard that apollo doesnt want any of its employees to leave

maybe they could use their employees as test subjects idk

[acoustic osprey]

it is not that they don't want them to leave
but most don't see a need to leave, iirc

[foggy grotto]

okay'

i just saw a thing and it was either the reaper or the other weird human things attack humans coming back to one of the islands and they were ina bunker when it attacked

[pseudo lantern]

ogh...

[foggy grotto]

onlyy 1 managed to escape and after running far enough they see a giga head and a rex eating its body just a couple feet away from the head

[acoustic osprey]

hm

[foggy grotto]

its a hypo rex

then it just cuts and see the mans bloody glasses

they tried to get some info on the island or sum cuz he was holding a breifcase while running

3 helis arrive at the island

[acoustic osprey]

don't think this was specifically isle lore
maybe an arg of sorts

[foggy grotto]

ah

it was animated short thingy

it was like 1 min and a half long

[acoustic osprey]

ohh

[foggy grotto]

how did hypos even be a hypo

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNzbdV3zLlM this?

[foggy grotto]

yeah that'

[acoustic osprey]

not technically official
but it is sick

[foggy grotto]

ahh]

[acoustic osprey]

iirc, it was made for the trailer contest years back

[pseudo lantern]

\🦛

[foggy grotto]

the isle takes place in the 90s right ?

[acoustic osprey]

good question
I think one guess is that you may become it? As in, actually slowly (or quickly) morphing into a Hyperendocrin

but... how that works... honestly who knows

[foggy grotto]

dibble and any other "found" or trail cams make it seem that way

[pseudo lantern]

not known, maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

probably 'took' place during the 80s into the 90s
but when we play it? May be right after, 2000s, a few years after like the 2010s, or years after

[foggy grotto]

ahh but i think the humans did it

there alot of key points that make it be in the 90s thats why im saying

[acoustic osprey]

Roadmap video had this for "AE software/OS"

but... it is a roadmap
not true lore. So we're not sure

[pseudo lantern]

3 strains..... 3 Apollan Ktisis Trifolia.. coincidence??? I THINK NOT!!

[acoustic osprey]

WOAH

[foggy grotto]

wowzas

[pseudo lantern]

just you wait till we get a 3rd omnivore

my baseless theories are gonna go insane..

[acoustic osprey]

at least in legacy
we knew Humans (Apollo Engineering, the main company in lore) 'developed' strains in Tartarus

but... Evrima? Could be the same? Maybe...

[foggy grotto]

dibble trail cam footage is recovered footage of a recovered footage

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-pointing-smiling-supernatural-dean-winchester-gif-13153687

at least
that is the general theory

[pseudo lantern]

it is what is accepted

[foggy grotto]

because it says its a recovered footage and that the electromagnetic things mess up electronics

[acoustic osprey]

artefacting in the 'recovered' section of the footage
definitely has to be recovery times 2

[acoustic osprey]

yeah! exactly that

[foggy grotto]

and it says F5 which is all water

[pseudo lantern]

if only someone had a video about this

[foggy grotto]

the person who recovered it even puts it there

[acoustic osprey]

i just wish .... wish it made sense..

[foggy grotto]

and every other trail cam footage has a boot up scene

[foggy grotto]

could be what i mentioned tampereing with it\

or the guy who recovered the footage

messed up somehow

[acoustic osprey]

not every
if you're including the old "Spiro" ones
besides the pachy one
and cerato

[foggy grotto]

so based pn the trail cams i can assume there is a live human on our island ?

[foggy grotto]

yeah yeah

[foggy grotto]

and why wpuld they need to get a hold of these footage

[acoustic osprey]

at least
there were live footage being relayed to AE?

We're not entirely sure on the timeline of when these trailcams take place, painfully

[foggy grotto]

except for showing us new creatures

[foggy grotto]

for now ima say the 90s

[acoustic osprey]

likely related to this
#isle-lore-theories message

[lethal moat]

We know they were at least operational in 99

[foggy grotto]

yes

[pseudo lantern]

1999 is on the timeline at some point

[acoustic osprey]

(if the roadmap can be trusted...)

||a good question we should ask Dondi tbf||

[foggy grotto]

isla sparo

a big huge map

200 square miles right ?

[acoustic osprey]

Isla Spero yeah?

[pseudo lantern]

2172

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-bait-or-fact-call-it-jjba-gif-4356782155168095918

[foggy grotto]

they stopped its developement and quickly got to making a new map for evrima

isla spiro right ?

[acoustic osprey]

32x32km

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[foggy grotto]

woulda been cool to keep it and make it like 500 players jsp jsp

if anyones pc can run that

we are man made dinos

is the reason why we can press tab and see our growth and stuff like that because we have a chip in our brain ?

and why when we get too close to human buildings it "glitches" the screen

is bc of the chip preventing us to get isnide the human buildings

or certain areas

and prolly at birth we get them implanted into us ?

and maybe if a live human can go into a human base and just check our wellbeings ?

[hallow cipher]

But how about when we spawn in eggs? Like, eggs laid by other dinos

There's no way to put chips in newborn egg-laid dinos

[foggy grotto]

or intellectually we dinos are humans have our minds/conscious transfered into the cloned dinos body

[foggy grotto]

like when they hatch

[foggy grotto]

ur right

hmm its just a theorie tho

could future lore really be this horrifying ?????

answers answers answers answers answers

is anyonwe awake

[stiff lintel]

Evrima is canon, Legacy used meta elements. I would disregard any meta elements for Evrima.

[waxen ledge]

IS THIS NEW?

[pseudo lantern]

it's from the dibble video

[foggy grotto]

yes

welp anyways goodnight

[long onyx]

you guys like playing with replays right?

[median furnace]

That is a shame

[long onyx]

i saw someone being able to like add effects to their replays. how can you do that?

[median furnace]

I made a 84x84 map in ue5 once

[acoustic osprey]

^ @waxen ledge

[acoustic osprey]

night! Sorry, i had to make dinner

[acoustic osprey]

was that someone, perchance, lightclaw

[long onyx]

idk

[pseudo lantern]

i see.. isaac eats dinner

[median furnace]

Lol

[pseudo lantern]

2200.....

[acoustic osprey]

you press F1

[long onyx]

here

[median furnace]

Btw , in ht , theres a new mutation that lets you see IR light

[long onyx]

f1 wont work for me

[acoustic osprey]

are you on HT?

[long onyx]

nah

[acoustic osprey]

it is only for HT right now

[long onyx]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

tbf with the last point
that was at a time where it seemed like recode (evrima) was just a bit of a 1.0-ish update
and therefore a continuation of legacy lore

till it become Don wanting to redo it basically completely
although, of course, under the same 'general' idea(s)

[acoustic osprey]

apologies should've said that earlier

[long onyx]

nah np thx regardless

i just downloaded the hordetest

gonna try rn

[acoustic osprey]

👌 sick and have fun

[long onyx]

oh it says i need to wait 30 minutes

[acoustic osprey]

the replays SHOULD be there
just you'll have to wait 30 mins... ah yep

[long onyx]

anyway around that bug?

[median furnace]

Me want more glance sheets

[acoustic osprey]

usually it just takes 5 mins for stuff that is old
but literally nothing else to get around it sadly

and if there is, i don't know about it. Sorry

[long onyx]

well guess ill just take advantage of the servers being empty and hop on my trike

[median furnace]

Are there any more nocturnal animals other than troodon and dilo?

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[long onyx]

135/150 players, not even a queu

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know? Probably yeah
but i don't know if any have been said

[median furnace]

Dam

So wait , augustus was the first to show climbing adaptations , so they captured him got his genes and made more ?

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

(potentially the 'replicants' were made in Tartarus, as it basically infers such)

[median furnace]

hmm

makes you wonder if dean and shirley were used in strain development

shirley for hypers and dean maybe for neuros

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664857833132523559/1262417306319847434/2x.gif

[median furnace]

woah i have no life! i am discussing made up lore at 11am !

[acoustic osprey]

honestly
potentially

maybe very very early tests in 'changing up the forumla'?

[pseudo lantern]

who tf dean...

[acoustic osprey]

although i suppose it depends on how strains were actually made up, by AE (or whomever...)

[median furnace]

rex specimen who was weaker than average but alot smarter than an average rex

[acoustic osprey]

Shirley's 'special' brother (but very intelligent)

https://tenor.com/view/stephen-hawkings-genius-gif-3949524

[median furnace]

yo

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

this is if Dean reached his full potential

[median furnace]

isaac chill 😭

[acoustic osprey]

(satire...)

[acoustic osprey]

hey, i mean, stephen hawking was a very intelligent guy

[median furnace]

Mods steal his balls

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[median furnace]

would be fun if they just had a bunch of walking mutating dinos that they would just study

maybe ben was just born with down syndrome

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[median furnace]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/958431158574678076/1142512583530791063/image0.gif

[median furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[long onyx]

where did we get ts from

[acoustic osprey]

Don himself

[long onyx]

yeah and he was also on some flight logs

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

[long onyx]

did he just randomly say "there was a rex named shirley and dean and they were dumb and strong and the other one was weak and smart"

[acoustic osprey]

i remember one of the doors was a PC reference iirc

[long onyx]

i hope we get some lore stuff about trike

[acoustic osprey]

maybe a glance sheet...

[long onyx]

some glance sheets for species that are already ingame would be cool too

[median furnace]

ignore everything from legacy

[long onyx]

@acoustic osprey the f1 thing got rid of my cursor

how do i bring it back

[acoustic osprey]

this did not appear?

[long onyx]

it did, but it also made my cursor dissapear after i press f1 again

[acoustic osprey]

weird
didn't happen for me

[long onyx]

so i can click the pause button etc

im not even sure how i can leave the replay

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/OS3c8ICea5Y?t=5468
this is what happened to me

[long onyx]

interesting

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[median furnace]

what if the punishment for breaking ae nda is getting turned into biomass

[acoustic osprey]

(or just tar tar...)

[median furnace]

living biomass , kinda like this

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[astral stag]

Qu moment

[barren ruin]

Like Konrad Curze's "Screaming gallery"? 😛

[hexed forge]

Happened to me

Had to shut down the isle through task manager lel

[acoustic osprey]

rip

[barren ruin]

With multiple photosynthetic mutations being available for herbivores, you guys think theres a chance plant DNA was (partially)used to rebuild the dinos?

[frozen totem]

i thought it was funny

[median furnace]

Me 2 but the mods might not

[frozen totem]

mayhaps

[median furnace]

Walder frey

Wyman manderly

[frozen totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664857833132523559/1262417306319847434/2x.gif

[long onyx]

-395,284.785, -78,008.773, 20,465.679
guts thing

might be new

[barren ruin]

the kindest grandfather in all of westeros?

[median furnace]

frey pies

[median furnace]

wonder if replicator went rogue

[stiff lintel]

Sounds a lot like Deena from SCUM.

Different game I know.

Though the replicator going rogue could make sense.

[muted reef]

I don't think so...seems more like a legacy thing

[median furnace]

there must be a reason ae doesnt seem to be active anymore

[plush widget]

minmi.

[muted reef]

They are still active

Theres a theory that they WANT gateway abandoned as an experiment...but who knows

[alpine lynx]

gateway simply does not look that active

it looks like it went throught something big

[muted reef]

Gateway not being active doesn't mean AE isn't

[alpine lynx]

oh yes def

but both V3 and gateway looks unactive

V3 looked like that is was left behind decades ago

[muted reef]

V3...is GONE

[alpine lynx]

Gateway looks fresh, but big things happend

[alpine lynx]

maybe yes, maybe not

[muted reef]

More like...small things that stacked up over time

[muted reef]

Yes yes not maybe yes

[alpine lynx]

just look at the hyper fences

IF gateway was actively used, theres wouldn’t be big broken parts

[muted reef]

#isle-lore-theories message

[maiden sundial]

Likely it was a bunch of little incidents culminating in a HOLY CRAP WE NEED TO LEAVE NOW containment breach

[alpine lynx]

i mean im sure they’re made for “oh look a shortcut” in the gameplay but i have a feeling that theres a lore behind it

[muted reef]

Yes

[muted reef]

Yes there are lore reasons

[alpine lynx]

im pretty sure that something went wrong, which they weren’t able to deal with it

[maiden sundial]

The reason why they didn't take it back yet? Well there's that theory. But there's also that well. Gen 1 exists and they likely are NOT happy with Æ getting their grubby hands on their island again.

[maiden sundial]

Well yea they had to evacuate.

Just because Gateway is the only location we know of doesn't mean all of Æ was on gateway

They likely have an HQ on continent

[alpine lynx]

Gen 1’s are mostly easily killable

theres far more worse things that we know

colossus, echidna, reaper

strains, matriarch

primordial (?), island walker (?)

these are real bad, really bad

[maiden sundial]

Well yea there are those creatures which are dangerous to Æ and likely why they haven't set up a permanent base on island

My personal theory is that the game (when finished) takes place...sometime after the incident that lead to the evacuation, and Æ is just now sending manned expeditions to the island again

Considering trail cams appear to be operable.

[alpine lynx]

AE wanted to play the role of god, something went really wrong, so they had to leave gateway

[maiden sundial]

Likely Æ is returning to see what happened after the evacuation. Or maybe end it

[alpine lynx]

im pretty sure that the gen 2’s in the island are the left overs

and the footages we’re seeing are old

trailcams, etc.

i wonder, whats the purpose of having multiple islands

[acoustic osprey]

(and to be fair, we don't really know if Gateway is active nor how was it was active)

[alpine lynx]

logically, it looks unactive

just look at the hyper fences and some building

[muted reef]

They could be sending gen 2's/1's or more dinosaurs onto the island, thus making it active

[acoustic osprey]

like, does the dibble video take place when AE was active?
Therefore, if so, they pretty much let their dinos roam free range with minimal human intervention

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
we live in cities with broken roads, things being built, etc, all the time

it is hard to tell how active something is in a 'slice' of time
especially since we don't know if current Gateway is fully 'lore accurate'

[alpine lynx]

true but, we’re talking about some dinosaurs, experimentals living in the island

[muted reef]

It most definitely isn't seeing as buildings aren't complete at all

[alpine lynx]

the fences are to keep them in, not let then road around

[acoustic osprey]

best thing to look at is the dibble video then if we want to know how AE's 'activeness' appears
even the Augustus video

however, yes, we don't know the true extent of how AE was active on Gateway

[acoustic osprey]

agreed, in that regard

we could also look at ERRANT-291
but that may likely be situated in GUTS, which... yeah ain't out yet

[alpine lynx]

isn’t ERRANT-291 a sabotage thing

[acoustic osprey]

it has been hinted at that Gen2 and employees may/could overlap
maybe the real 'activeness' (on gateway that is) is via Gen2s
(hence the gen2 model in dibble video ... but... who knows)

[alpine lynx]

i simply forgot it, there was a file about it tho

[acoustic osprey]

quite likely
aye

[alpine lynx]

lore.

[acoustic osprey]

exactly
love it you hate it

[alpine lynx]

wait so uh isn’t troodon a hybrid type of thing

[snow jasper]

Megalania.....

[alpine lynx]

Like pretty much a mix, i remember a theory like that

[alpine lynx]

swimming animation def reminds me of megalania

[snow jasper]

I believe Megalania and Troodon are linked in some sort of way from something Dondi said a few years ago

[alpine lynx]

like, i wouldn’t get suprised if troodon gets some sort of diving ability in the future

[alpine lynx]

omniraptor

i think troodon also might be linked into omniraptor

they simply resamble eachother anatomically

[foggy grotto]

what did i miss

[foggy grotto]

the dinos are man made abominations

[acoustic osprey]

everything...

[foggy grotto]

recap

[alpine lynx]

might even be utahraptor & megalania

[snow jasper]

....Man Made.

https://tenor.com/view/vsause-michael-michael-vsause-vsause-michael-gif-25125732

[maiden sundial]

Omniraptor itself is an amalgam iirc

[alpine lynx]

everything is human made.

[foggy grotto]

thats why they have like 1% in commin w the real world counterparts

or none at all

[maiden sundial]

Its theorized that the omniraptor is just that. An omni raptor with the DNA of a metric ton of dromaeosaurids

[foggy grotto]

js take a look at the spino

[alpine lynx]

not sure about that, its pretty much a featherless version of the utahraptor

[acoustic osprey]

if not DNA
huge inspiration off a bunch of them

depends on how 'dino creation works' in lore

[foggy grotto]

i need a recap

[maiden sundial]

The theory mostly comes from the name "omniraptor"

The "all thief"

[alpine lynx]

i simply believe that omniraptor is a featherless version of evrima utahraptor

Just like the featherless galli and feathered galli

[foggy grotto]

brah what

[alpine lynx]

hm?

[foggy grotto]

there were feathered gallis

[alpine lynx]

we do in the lore

[maiden sundial]

It could be that originally omniraptor was feathered but due to their messed up amalgam genome, they eventually lost their feathering

[foggy grotto]

yes

i strongly agree

[maiden sundial]

Yea, apparently the first generation of gallimimus were herbivorous and feathered.

[foggy grotto]

umm what about the seemless RNA growth thing

[maiden sundial]

But according to the glance sheet, aggressive egg stealing morphs were documented.

[foggy grotto]

that showcased the trike as i showed in the ss

[alpine lynx]

they’re full herbivore, they also don’t kick

[maiden sundial]

Basically instead of the growth of legacy it was fixed to the seamless growth of evrima.

[alpine lynx]

like the current omnivore ones

[foggy grotto]

did anyone ever reply to how messed up and gorey dondis explanation of the lore to a family or friend was

[maiden sundial]

They did kick, just were a bit more docile.

Likely omniraptor started the same.

[alpine lynx]

uhm, no

[maiden sundial]

Not being more docile just feathered

[foggy grotto]

.

[maiden sundial]

My theory is that the omnis are amalgamations of several dromaeosaurids, and due to their messed up genome, eventually lost said feathering

[foggy grotto]

what reason to just experiment on them to watch them and see what they can fix from past mistakes ?

[maiden sundial]

That, we don't know.

There are many theories, one of them being trying to achieve perfect humanity

[alpine lynx]

wym

[alpine lynx]

i think dondi talked about it

it was some sort of medical thing

[foggy grotto]

^^^ @alpine lynx

[maiden sundial]

He has but never fully revealed it. Could've been medical plus some other forms

[snow jasper]

We're long overdue an inhabitant glance sheet

[foggy grotto]

who is retrieving these trail cam footages ?

[snow jasper]

John Cake

[maiden sundial]

Likely Gen 2 expeditionaries

[foggy grotto]

so there are still humans on the island

[alpine lynx]

John cake our beloved Gen 2’s

[alpine lynx]

i really wouldn’t call them a fully human

[foggy grotto]

genetically enhanced humans

were sent to the island for what reason

[alpine lynx]

task’s in the island

[foggy grotto]

is the reaper some type of thing that happened to one of these “humans” that caused them to be that way

to start transforming

cuz i saw that something on the island was making the dinos turn into abominations

or sum like that

[snow jasper]

Maybe...

[alpine lynx]

no reaper is a humanoid experimental

[foggy grotto]

hm

[alpine lynx]

pretty much tissoplastic strain

[foggy grotto]

is that why we have mutations

[alpine lynx]

uhh, i guess not

[foggy grotto]

because of something doing sum to the dinos

[snow jasper]

I personally hope that we are able to log into various terminals/computers on the island find these sorts of videos on the computers with a little thorough digging

[foggy grotto]

or sum

is that the reason why screens become “laggy” when getting close to human bases and such

because we have a chip in our brains

[alpine lynx]

thats literally legacy

[foggy grotto]

yeah

[alpine lynx]

legacy is no longer canon i suppose

[foggy grotto]

sorry lost track im hungry ima make some food

[foggy grotto]

damn

[snow jasper]

I disliked the static effect in legacy

[alpine lynx]

but the reason of screen glitching was keep people away from it

[foggy grotto]

it kills you

[foggy grotto]

dinos ?

[snow jasper]

Very much glad we dont have it in Evrima

[long onyx]

where is radiotower on the map

[foggy grotto]

yes thankfully

[snow jasper]

Which map, and which radio tower

[long onyx]

gateway, the tall one on the mountain

[alpine lynx]

pretty much keep the players away from the building so they just don’t sit at there the whole day (theres no lore)

[snow jasper]

Just South of the Eastern Harbour

Im hoping for more of this smaller "storm bunker"/outpost type structures so be dotted around roads and off into the jungle, sort of like the generator scenes from Jurassic Park where its trailed off into the jungle for a couple hundred yards.

Most of them seem to have a garage, so pulling off into one of these to wait out a storm would be handy

[alpine lynx]

getting chased by carnos are gonna be scary

[muted reef]

Being chased with a shotgun will be scary

[alpine lynx]

Catch me if you can!

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly what I want

[snow jasper]

Though, the expectation I have is probably too high after what I saw from Beautiful Light

[foggy grotto]

sigma sigma sigma sigma sigma sigma sigma

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/djimon-hounsou-screaming-blood-diamond-scream-yell-gif-8512139

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-scream-brain-rot-gif-6644106601333615957

[frozen totem]

what

[ornate comet]

🙏

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-shibuya-arc-mahito-shibuya-arc-gif-12763603453134898414

[muted reef]

They are not even genetically enhanced...they're MADE and created that way...they were never born

[muted reef]

Mutations is probably something to do with the replicator

[brave aurora]

did anything change from then? (look at the date)

youre speaking facts man

[fast forge]

you pinging someone from 2018?

[brave aurora]

i mean he is speaking facts

[pearl palm]

I've been summoned

[pearl palm]

I don't focus on the game as much to be able to answer your question. Sorry

[ornate comet]

bros pinging the veterans

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[pseudo lantern]

lore!

[fast forge]

two more new GUTS entrances

pretty sure there are now 4 within that section of map

[fast forge]

the one on the right (red dot) is pretty cool, it's alongside the canyon river, tucked up under a big rock outcropping

right next to the dam at the source of the river too

[muted reef]

A secondary map being underground is such a hype thing that not a lot of games do

I can think of like...rust and the forest franchise

[fast forge]

The most recent Zelda game

[muted reef]

Didnt play it

Still...we only named like a handful of games

[fast forge]

these are the locations of the other GUTS entrances in that area, I believe

some on either side of that hill

[muted reef]

I wonder if they'll only go through stuff and not really UNDER stuff that deep

Like swamp tunnel

Not really like a downward tunnel plunging into the earth

[fast forge]

yeah there's a new tunnel at port like that

[muted reef]

Interior and all?

[fast forge]

They changed the swamp tunnel to the same as the new port tunnel, last I saw none of it was textured but in both cases you can go through it

[acoustic osprey]

They're supposed to be textured
But seems to be bugged still

[fast forge]

I'm curious, what is the first time the name Perimeter comes up?

if you recall

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/never-alfred-batman-gif-26337878

[fast forge]

so where did it come from?

I just ask because the fences seem to separate the coastal sections of the island from the center
So maybe the Perimeter is the safe zone on the outside of the island, where all the major human bases are located?

[acoustic osprey]

are you asking in terms of the hexadome or fences?

[fast forge]

The term as I first learned it was for the biggest hexadome/aviary

[acoustic osprey]

for the hexadome (The Atrium)
it came from a dataminer

[fast forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

but i suspect it is wrong
as you can't find that correlation in the game files

[fast forge]

well then who can say

Atrium yes, not aviary

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[compact matrix]

when will they add other mechanics for trike?

[acoustic osprey]

best to ask in #isle-discussion

[slow delta]

ikr

[slow delta]

i'm still here lol

im still waiting for actual lore to update my document

[fair bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-shibuya-arc-mahito-shibuya-arc-gif-3149647428185535626

[knotty locust]

what was the last piece of lore you remember seeing

[slow delta]

i think the diablo trailer for evrima. but this was mostly lore sauce so i didnt even bother go through it. maybe i will look again during my easter vacation.

[knotty locust]

were you aware of the generation 1s being used as both a deterrent and a retaliation strike against rival companies by being airdropped onto the rival company’s various sites

[slow delta]

no, but i came across a video from lightclaw on youtube (from last year) about a bunch of AE stuff. I only skimmed through it so I don't know where the info came from. But if you got any sources/message links etc then can you share them?

[knotty locust]

sure thing, let me grab the message link

[slow delta]

inb4 it's just dondi saying random stuff on discord

[knotty locust]

(it is)

#isle-lore-theories message

[knotty locust]

he tends to appear in this channel every now and then, usually when he spots an interesting message

just recently, he’s revealed that the recent zombie Halloween event is tied to the neurotenic strain

if you mean “lore” as in, purely in/via the game, then yeah there isn’t much at the moment

but there’s definitely been a few reveals over discord

[lethal moat]

We did also just get a new strain concept here recently

[rich blaze]

bruh whats their kill count 😭

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[rich blaze]

how could the government let this happen 💔

[alpine lynx]

they either don’t know or AE pays them good amouth of money

[slow delta]

yeah well i take what dondi says with a big grain of salt considering how the whole primal carnage scenario played out lore-wise

canon, not canon

[barren ruin]

i really hope you don't mean that cursed spino gif you sent XD

[barren ruin]

Airdropping Herrera's... thats just diabolically evil

[alpine lynx]

huh

hes talking about the reaper

[barren ruin]

wasnt that a Tissoplastic reaper redesign? not a new strain right?

[lethal moat]

Tissoplastic is itself a strain

Like hyperendocrine and neurotenic

[alpine lynx]

new strain concept rumple said

pretty much equals new design

[barren ruin]

yeah that much i know, but lore just corrected my confusion.
i missinterpreted what you meant with earlier comment

i thought you meant the concept was a completely new strain not included in the THN set

[hallow rover]

So the zombies are cannon?

If so that’s quite interesting, I like the idea that neuros can use other animals like that

[lethal moat]

To some extent, there’s something about that event that has lore associated to it

[lethal moat]

When was this?

[hexed forge]

I think you mean Tisso..

[alpine lynx]

yes.

we tought they were releated to tissos, but apperently, its neuros

[hexed forge]

woah

How the HELL did I not see that

[alpine lynx]

i don’t know…

[hexed forge]

Sorry I hid away after the unban wave

Too many new people

[alpine lynx]

Ehh not that much new people

still familiar faces discussing here

#isle-discussion is another world tho…

[lethal moat]

Yeah I never saw that, very cool

I think neuros creating thralls like vampires do would be cool, they get benefits, and work with you, but are nowhere near as powerful

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257740793100238959/1297031567851655198/4x.gif

[lethal moat]

Given how you didn’t really have a choice with the zombie stuff, I imagine there wouldn’t be consent to become a neuro’s thrall

[hexed forge]

Or just like

Find a cliff

[hallow rover]

perhaps the zombies bit plays into the fact that neuros can communicate cross species. They can communicate cross species so long as the things they are talking to are in the zombie like state

[median furnace]

woah woah woah

what does that mean

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lose-control-rgb-keyboard-gif-26261571

[hexed forge]

Its not fun when you can't control your dino and forced to watch

So at that point just make it so the player technically dies and an AI takes over the body. (Gameplay terms)

[lethal moat]

I think there’s a few ways for it to be done

[alpine lynx]

zombie’s are simply releated to neuros

but couldn’t that mean they’re also smart 🤔

[median furnace]

´´potentially able to expel bio-materials that, when in contact with a living foreign body, is dangerous´´ maybe the reason why its dangerous is that it transforms normal things into zombies?

[barren ruin]

what if neuros use their EMP abilities to basically stimulate the nerve system of a dead dino "puppeteering" it in a sense

i guess the virus would be a way to transmit whatever makes the bodies susceptible to the manipulation

forcing people to backseat their own game would be rather cruel XD

[alpine lynx]

its not like that tho.

theres a virus existing

nvm

[barren ruin]

as in Alien black goo?

[median furnace]

tartartar

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-the-dark-hour-dark-hour-gif-18863888

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-black-crazy-shakehead-gif-22713692

lore?

[long onyx]

cant you become a zombie with admin?

how did they work again

didnt damage make them like more zombified

[median furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-sleepy-gif-9558558281283765110

[long onyx]

@lethal moat does the zombie thing even work atm?

[lethal moat]

On unofficials

[long onyx]

ive heard it was broken

[hexed forge]

Its broken

[long onyx]

damn, hope they fix it

[alpine lynx]

maybe at the upcoming halloween

[icy onyx]

Lore.

[hexed forge]

Holy crap hes alive.

[acoustic osprey]

Again!

And with the old pfp

[muted reef]

he's back

[fallow harbor]

i like pink floyd

[lethal moat]

What’d I miss?

[hexed forge]

David is back after a long time of not being online

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah

[muted reef]

Lightclaw hows the video going

[acoustic osprey]

A few assignments currently
So I'm putting the editing on hold temporarily till I can get a good night of edits in

[muted reef]

So percentage on how finished it is?

[hexed forge]

2%

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-prime-invincible-omni-man-gif-3474718432791073197

[acoustic osprey]

script? Done
recording? done
editing... not started...

[muted reef]

So like 70%

[acoustic osprey]

ha

[fast forge]

editing not started... so like 70% left

[muted reef]

Nuh

[fathom valve]

Is that

[lethal moat]

I really hope certain gen 1 can do the skinwalker “help” thing

[median furnace]

remember when troodon was supposed to be able to do mimicry

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

Why

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly

[long onyx]

Wonder why they got rid of it

[acoustic osprey]

they didn't

[steel summit]

i'd love that.

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-gif-21928664

[untold jungle]

Hello, someone his problem?

[latent grove]

I’d try posting that here #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 or here #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧 depending on what you’re trying to play

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-ragnarok-get-help-funny-throw-gif-14270786

[patent ginkgo]

Doesn’t work well when Thor stabs you in the back

[lethal moat]

The replicator wanted snackies

[ornate comet]

I miss that area of swamp on spiro

[mint tapir]

you just need to run steam while your playing

[icy onyx]

Same, it was nice

I miss spiro😣

[lethal moat]

Reworked Spiro could be neat

[long onyx]

i liked the flatness of spiro

[stiff lintel]

I wonder what other places AE has populated with Dinosaurs.

[lethal moat]

We know of at least one other island, and I wouldn’t be surprised if spiro is still canon, so my guess is at least three

[stiff lintel]

It still wouldn't ward off the thought of having Dinosaurs within an urban setting. Possibly an island that has been abandoned by the human populace.

[alpine lynx]

is V3 still canon

[stiff lintel]

Legacy is no longer canon]

I don't thing V3 could be used in UE5 and remastered though.

[alpine lynx]

V3 simply can be rewamped

[alpine lynx]

legacy is not, but some lore is

we know that strains are still canon, same with the EIP

V3 still might be canon in the lore, and we might see it in the future

[stiff lintel]

oh yea, the Reserve

[ornate comet]

You guys think that dryos would would probably rather stick to their burrows in the day and come out at night with their good nv or hide at night and use the daylight for foraging

I’m making a little document about potential behaviors of the species we have

In like a lore sense, not player behavior

[stiff lintel]

Since Dilo's venom is a hallucinogenic Neurotoxin, would Troo's venom be a hemotoxin?

[fast forge]

nocturnal or crepuscular, like deer

[muted reef]

How strong are we thinking Gen 1's are? You think that AE had in mind that a Gen 2 may come across one before? If that were the case then Gen 1 being strong would mean Gen 2 should probably be able to fight back will with a hand pistol or melee weapon

[pseudo lantern]

seeing as how gen 2s are olympic athlete levels of fit
pretty strong!

or maybe not strong, who knows
perhaps what it lacks in strength it makes up for with being a gibbon with a vendetta and very sharp vendetta-dispensers

[muted reef]

You can tell of looks and stats

85 kg, shredded, sprints for 18 minutes straight, gets all of that stam back in a minute...

[pseudo lantern]

those are gen2 stats

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/guns-cut-chris-jajshshs-gif-7284857

[pseudo lantern]

im talking gen1

[muted reef]

Well I'm talking Gen 2!

[pseudo lantern]

WHY

YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT GEN1S

[muted reef]

Because they are awesome

[muted reef]

But, about Gen 1's, Don said a human couldn't beat them without a weapon

Which is a no duh

[pseudo lantern]

yes!

[hexed forge]

Im still hoping Gen1 are bulletproof to small caliber weapons.

[pseudo lantern]

all gen1s... have neuro anky skin

[muted reef]

To like a .22 maybe

I think being resistant to 9 mil would be fine, but straight bullet proof to it...eh

[knotty locust]

gen 1s are rabid chimpanzees, in comparison to humans

[muted reef]

Definitely stronger than that

[knotty locust]

pure feral strength, unbridled

[muted reef]

But not all the smarts are there

[knotty locust]

you don’t need to be smart if all it takes to end a threat is a screech and a bashing

[torpid roost]

funny how the failure its stronger, faster and bigger than the success

[knotty locust]

probably something to do with the human condition

[muted reef]

Gen 1 is not a failure

[muted reef]

Having smarts to aim a gun would be nice

[knotty locust]

you could lean into strength and speed, but in return the brain is lacking in development

gen 2s are a good example of strength, speed, and healthy brain

[torpid roost]

arent them failed experiments of creating humans? im kinda lost in the lore i wanna now more about it

[muted reef]

No they're a deterrent animal

[hexed forge]

In other words, a weapon.

[muted reef]

Though, were they actually a happy accident?

[torpid roost]

accident of making what

[hexed forge]

We dont know

[muted reef]

They could've been trying to do something else, but used what they had as a weapon

[torpid roost]

as a weapon against what? this is after hypos escaped right?

that would make sense

[muted reef]

Who said anything about hypers escaping

[torpid roost]

why would they want such a strong weapon then

[muted reef]

A gen 1 would not be able to down down a dinosaur at all

They are probably more of a detterent to rival companies

[acoustic osprey]

People

[torpid roost]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

we know that two rival 'companies' had experienced Gen1 attacks at some point

[torpid roost]

So they started making dinosaurs in the island or dinos were already a traffic and they were just experimenting?

[torpid roost]

ahh

idk nothing about the lore

thats why im so lost lol

[acoustic osprey]

to give a bit more context though:

Began as a retaliatory product by AE as an overengineered answer to
the question of, “What if something hits AE?"

[acoustic osprey]

that's ok 👌

catag and cerato not explaining things properly again!!

[torpid roost]

do we know what the rival company is?

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-fight-beat-up-beating-punching-gif-13866624219462802987

[acoustic osprey]

they seem to have been making dinosaurs
albeit, we don't know if it is "on" the island (Gateway)

As we see, in the last Isle Lore video (on YouTube) that they 'injected' Dibbles into Gateway
therefore, likely, coming from another island

[acoustic osprey]

just their abbreviations (which could change)

OTC and F&V

[torpid roost]

ok cool

[muted reef]

Over the Cliff and Fight and Veil

[acoustic osprey]

NOOOO

[hexed forge]

I was in the middle of a Rivals game sorry

[acoustic osprey]

it is ok
I shall forgive you this time

[hexed forge]

thanks

[muted reef]

Isaac do you sleep I see you up at all hours

[tulip frigate]

i just got the game why is theres so little dinos i thought that there were flyers and a tree climbing dino??

[muted reef]

Shouldn't really be asking that here

[hexed forge]

Get on Evrima

You are on legacy

[hexed forge]

Do not send them into isle discussion, please

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942379275984732193/1228029600781828136/togif.gif

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-smile-troll-face-trollge-stop-we-do-a-little-gif-11708995610297493733

[muted reef]

https://imgur.com/wpZNmO7

[hexed forge]

Either Hordetesting or Evrima

Choose evrima

[tulip frigate]

yooooo

WWWWWW

[hallow rover]

Not sure if it’s been confirmed as to whether they were a happy accident or not but I personally think they were intentional. Mainly because how can you muck up making a human so much and yet accidentally create a perfect humanoid hunter.

[muted reef]

Replicator vs some other tech?

[hallow rover]

Yea, the only way I can see them being accidental is if AE goes to the replicator and says “make the perfect human” and the replicators idea of the perfect human is a gen 1. However I think that AE has/had more control over the replicator and the things that it can replicate, or at least they did before stuff hit the fan.

[pseudo lantern]

tsk tsk, even I could've explained that

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/942379275984732193/1228029600781828136/togif.gif

[muted reef]

What if...there is a newer "replicator" esque system after stuff hit the fan? Do we know if Gen 2 and 1 were made in similar timeframes?

[hallow rover]

Probably a question for Isaac, I only have a rudimentary understanding of the lore. But an interesting theory

[barren ruin]

Spiro but all of it, without the weird world border

[patent ginkgo]

Spiro but temperate

Coniferous temperate rainforest

[ionic fog]

Can’t wait to see 1 person per hour on the full Spiro map server with 100 max pop

Mega Spiro would be an insane thing if they can pull off something like star citizen is trying with multiple servers meshing into one, so all quarters of the map always feels populated

[muted reef]

Why not just make a...500 player server

[hexed forge]

no

[ornate comet]

legacy players can finally rest

[ionic fog]

Pfft, maybe when fish fly… are those lore accurate yet

[fast forge]

I don't think we've been given a timeframe, but don did mention working on a timeline last autumn, iirc

[muted reef]

he did

[fast forge]

so I suppose that info exists, I just don't think we've been told

[acoustic osprey]

not the whole thing though

and if anything
we don't really know how much of a 'timeline' it exactly was iirc

because it wasn't finished
and Don said on stream it is now around 60 pages long, though, at least

[muted reef]

He said it's The timeline

[acoustic osprey]

not really the timeline
just that 'the' timeline would be included

we don't really know if that image he sent was the timeline (presumably not finished) or just a glossary and/or definitions section

image for reference

[muted reef]

#isle-lore-theories message ?

[acoustic osprey]

i think we misread
as Don literally said, two rough minutes before, that it contains more than just timeline stuff

if anything
Don may have just presumed Cerato didn't think it would include "THE" timeline

[acoustic osprey]

i was gonna comment but i was busy with essay work
but if they made the replicator, what stops them from remaking the replicator again?

[muted reef]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

morality? ethics?
or is it more physical

like the lead design only knew how to make it
and he died?

because, no aliens.
So where did The Replicator come from?

or is it so big of a system that it would take years to ever 'replicate' what the replicator was

like were Gen2s an attempt of a Replicator v2?
but that depends on 'when' Gen2s were first made tbf

[feral mortar]

Is there any chance we’ll see the matriarch, or a version of it, come to the game?

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe...

[feral mortar]

I hope, it looks super interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly

[feral mortar]

I do remember them teasing it, or tapwing teasing it in a totem pole a few halloweens ago. Though idk if it was official.

This is all I have from it, ignore the music lol.