#isle-lore-theories
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how does it eat
It’s mouth?
wait nvm just saw the mouth
consume
lol
Smile big girl
To lay eggs in them like parasites

need some serious dental work
nice, who made this
She’s still our gal
I do hope for this design to return but I have a feeling matriarch isn’t the same
I still don’t know!!!😓
maybe
i will help you
https://www.deviantart.com/alukslice/gallery
likely this person
https://www.deviantart.com/alukslice/art/Typheous-Matriarch-888687321
they posted it
and it seems like has a very similar artstyle to their other stuff
i really want to say that this is a glance sheet, but it looks like it has nothing written on it
pain lol
lol
I mean they made ben canon , why not all the urukhai gifs from islediscussion
Ty!
Erm
Theres nothing there
@lethal moat
Wow just wow
2 matriarch arts and 1 tisso velo
There’s more but god, I wish I found him sooner
H dilo!
Looks amazing.
Guy knows how to sketch
on top of the monitor...
Thats.. a really thick paper.. (I dont think its a paper)
it looks like a document
It's just an ipad 
Theres buttons and lights on the side of it
The white lights
it is on the same slanted axis as the red light, no?
that could also be lumen artefacts from reflecting the 'object' on top of the monitor
or just pixelation from the still image
will need to see it from another for me to be sure
Im not sure, but I doubt it
dude you cant even see whats on it
you are so starved for lore bruh
we were talking about something similar before, a few days ago
even if it isn't a TCAM/MCAM
Dude can I send you my art for tips 💀
This is glorious
Here
He has more stuff, really good
yeah...
Appreciate it
but yeah
Reaper is fully blind by the looks of it
should there be a more unique name for the new/big DTA?
because this is the one that strains/sauropods would be in, right? forgot what Vis said in the dblog a month or two ago
And finally to top it all off, I’ve been working on the holding pen for sauropods and strains. I’ll hold off on showing until I’m happy with it, but when it’s ready I’ll have it passed through Phase Three. It’s a hulking structure that feels like the interior area could be its own level. And it’s almost, if not, twice the size of the DTA.
I mean
Vis called it a DTA himself, so uh, big DTA ! (devblog)
Very unique naming
i know
but i mean
DTA and DTA is very confusing
Big DTA, small DTA, medium DTA
because they're both DTAs
one is just GIANT and used for big ones
the other one is 'normal'
Hyper DTA
was gonna say... bit like what we call the fences
lol
I'm fine with either
big DTA
Mega DTA
Strain DTA
or
Hyper DTA
tbh probably built for sauropods before hypers
i mean
it is in the same vein as hyper fences
not because 'for hypers'
but because it is big
isn't hyper fence just a fan name?
^
the only reason why we say it is because it is big
and it was given comparison next to a H Rex
but also Don says it internally as well
not that it is the actual name
if anything
just a perimeter wall/fence
or just fence
yeah lol
The true perimeter is the friends we ate along the way
Saul Goodman !!
woah
Well. This is a nice surprise.
quite so
Those feet are so strange, what advantages do they provide
Idk if you saw in lorecord but 45 suggested maybe it really acts like a bat and hangs upside down
alongside that, if we're under the impression that the "resting" muscles are it being curled in like that, it would likely provide an incredible grip on a variety of objects, especially considering how sharp it is.
hanging from branches or using them to hold onto branches would certainly work quite well, but it could also use its feet to latch onto animals while its hands and teeth tear whatever it latched onto apart
Oh hey crow
And yeh, I like the idea of it being bat like in general
With the blindness and the ears, it’s most likely using echolocation of sorts
The feet themselves seem to be used for hanging
The wing flaps most likely for gliding, not exactly flying but not far off
hello!!
yeah, a more bat-like reaper is such a cool idea to me
I just ponder how it'd be reflected in game
i havent kept up with lore in a hot minute, is this planned to be playable to our knowledge?
Nothing is known….
damn..
But if they’re gen 1 related, maybe
That's what I'm going to assume until told otherwise
im pretty positive
there is some shared triats, most prominant is the hands/fingers
that is nice! I hope you are very positive
being happy is good!
no im not really posi.. but i was being specific- man never mind 
oh
seems like those back ones are curled, maybe to avoid getting dull? similar to omni's raised toe? since we see them extended in one of the side images
though with those gangly limbs definitely seems like a tree climber / underarms serve as a way to angle descent when launching off a tree
so yeah.. hang upside down, and drop off, like herra?
i'm seeing herra + ptera + bat + raptor + human
im seeing I_rex too 
i choose the believe the little spines are from psitacco
the whole thing is a giant deadly bat so yeah propably
i feel like the echolocation is more and more possible
maybe it says im vengeance after all
ive never made a humanoid model before
maybe i should give it a try
why
It screams "I'm vengeance" into the void and listens to the echo to locate its prey
PUB
Its obviously humanoid, but at the same time, it features way more reptilian trates than the gen1
not sure about the cave part , those back claws are propably handy with branches
oversized bat
maybe it just eats fruits
that would be funny lol
climbing maybe
we don't know that tho
yeak ik
Those are most likely talons to catch prey
Similar to owl's and other hunter birds
Or can be used as a weapon when kicking prey with legs
yall better upvote in #phase-three-requests
A reversed hallux is a sign of branch-perching in birds, iirc
that condition where two toes point forward, two point backward
In birds of prey it does increase the ability to catch prey
This is because you have claws coming from either side of the target, decreasing the ability to slip away from any given claw and escape
The idea that tisso reaper is some weird reptilian bat is so cool
I hope that in gameplay it can climb like a herrera (or Gen 1) and climb under a branch to hang from it, and that's how it sleeps/logs out (if playable)
Just hanging from a jungle tree limb like a forest bat
Oh here's a fun word of the day: Patagium
The stretch of skin under the arms is a patagium
it has insane traps tho
lats too
its def built for climbing thats for sure
long arms long legs slender build
The equipment, especially the computers are from the 90s. However there isn't much foliage covering the buildings. I would say the game takes place a few years after whatever incident took place or after Apollo left the island.
yea personally my estimate is mid 2000s
Everything looks too overgrown to be that recently after the incident
I think it's a good 30-40 years later
Modern day
could be engineered plants grow faster , like everything else ae makes
Doubtful
There is still a date in a sheet that is blurred over...that looks to say the game takes place next century, but it is super hard to tell and probably not likely
Show me
I do not trust this, but this is what people made of the Errant 291 report
global warming would kill anyone wouldnt it
Eventually
i heavily doubt its so far in the future dude
Yeah but...
but but but but whatz
NA3 crash right when i engage a dibble
okay
Once again asking if anyone has the current roster size comparison imagine with the guy and the dog in the middle
Same, definitely not that far with the conditions of the buildings
The buildings are in extremely good condition
exactly
Yes
Kinda
But that is for now
We know the plan is more weathering
Same 2010s-2030s is my estimate
can i....have the pic lol
I wonder if various islands are in various levels of decay
Dont somethin in the isle say it was 1994-1999
Likely
Since we know there were multiple incidents and not just one big "boom"
At least I hope so
Gameplay and lorewise
One of the startup screens on the living roadmap
Cannibal's replacment
Ignore the 5th one
That one's in there by accident
And type H
Hell* yea dude! Awesome!
Tho knowing this game they'll probably stay concept art XD
I hope not XD
You see the tissoplastic reaper concept?
Nyope but i'd love t-
Oh yes i have, horrifying monztrousity
Tho ngl, i kinda prefered the old cannibals in the aviary type thing, probably from nostalgia
But god its cool all the new stuff
There are similarities
Bit more batlike but still humanoid
Yeah, and i do think that'd make sense for a cave creature,
From what i saw of the more modern lore it kinda reminds me of what zootopia and that vita carnis analogue horror in a way, yk?
Looks promising so far
Thinking about what you'll do playing these guys confuses me...we kinda know the gimmick of gen 2...but what gives for these guys?
Yea i saw, pretty cool tho
Huntin'
It's so trippy seeing stuff that never came to the game finally coming
FR
Humanoid herrera niche seems mid...theres definitely more involved with the replicator and crafting I'm betting
Huh?
There is a theory that they do stuff for the replicator...to become greater...perchance become a strain?
The "replicator"?
You have much to learn
Dude i dont remember anythin about the lore since like 2019?
It's what's used to create the dinosaurs
A collection of systems
And the Gen 1 worship it
They know where they came from
To be fair
Not really a theory
More of a confirmation?
Xool
Why
Yay
god i love seeing this
thats genuinely so badass
I have a theory about humans: They are just 3 troodons in a trench coat.
He knows too much
probably.
2 troodons would be tall enough 3 would be too tall.
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Elon musk wouldve nuked it
Gen1s look very very similar to the rake creepypasta
I love the new hyper rex i wish we got to see the model
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In rumple's image wall there are 2 images of the gen1 models
parts of them anyways
Anyone got full res reaper concept? Pls
What?
Nvm i found it
this handsome fella
very handsome
Is the isle lore like you're in a dome like ark?
genuine question, are these just concept art for the fun of it?
I thought most of that lore got left with legacy but its still cool as hell
I dont think they would pay for concept art for the fun of it
No.
I remember flying high on time and seeing a dome above the island
They are planned to come to the game so, I dont think its for the fun of it.
Probably just a world border
No lore correlation, just there for gameplay
Might just be a broken skybox
ah alright, obviously going to be a ways off but could be a cool horror game someday
Ah wtf lmao
Thats weird
But yeah no lore correlation
dinosaur truman show right there
yes lmfao literal dome
Omniraptors stuck in a truman show
Only appears if you go super high just some broken texture I think
yup
it is funny though
what's the story behind the tissoplastic reaper? I vaguely remember anything anymore
they were made by like, some kind of ai or something the matriach? man I'm grasping at straws from my brain lmao
Tissoplastic Reaper is a humanoid Strain presumably(Theory) "evolved" from a simple gen1 specimen similar to how dinosaurs change into their strain forms.
Most likely all AE assets are made by The Replicator, is it an AI? We dont know. But Gen1s worship it and sacrifice things.
thats unloaded shaders of a skybox! yay ue5 missing textures do that
Will all dinos have strain forms?
I think there was 3 types right?
hyper tisso neuro so far
Ty
I wonder if it will be a thing for all dinos? 🤔
Because what does
Hyper
Tisso
Neuro do? Except for physical appearance ofc
Three types of strains only and we don't know if all will have them. But there is no longer a reason for Herbivores to not have them.
neuros are slimy mind beaming electromagnetic fielding weirdos
To not have them, so herbivores will also have it? Niceee
they can telephatically (maybe) talk to other species
for the sake of development sanity only some playables will have them prolly
Probably yea
Would be cool if everyone had it tho, but obviously balancing, models, takes time
and if even they will be very very hard to get
Of course but having a good grind, and having a possibility of being really strong, is something everyone wants to achieve
from what we know , you have to be a very good elder and even then you have to do something we dont know what
Potentially
hyper pachy would be baller lmao
True!
you will most likely have a better chance at becoming a strain on a free admin server
What if I was to kill and eat a hyper raptor as a elder raptor, and then get their hypo blood mixed with mine, and overtime get stronger
doubt you could do that
hyper raptor has 2 sickle claws if they intend to keep the old model
Ok people will get mad at me for saying this but people get ticked off because of The Isle having gens and strains and weirdness, but that's what makes The Isle unique and if it was intended to have such things in official servers, count me in
Having admin control is cool, but I have seen many servers with admin abusers, that's my only problem with unofficial
But then again, Trex and Trike won't be in official servers....
The reaper was supposed to have something like this too right?
the arm sickles are gone
anyways , these cables are giant
That's a big cable 💀
Huh?
Is there like a document or something that gets updated constantly with lore and concepts by any chance?
not really theres that lore doc in pins but its kinda confusing
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
Aaah
Some Isle lore addicts should make one
We did, I just posted it
Acts of God official
© 2025 The Isle Development Team. All rights reserved
Let your ears be graced by this song
Ok 👀
these aren't nearly as far off though, presumably
Im just curious as to how they'll function and what purpose they'll serve from a gameplay perspective
cool concepts and awesome lore aside am I gonna get ripped to shreds by vampires trying to survive?
I am legend but with dinosaurs does sound pretty dope
They worship the ai/machine/technological complex that creates every creature on the island(called the Replicator). They sacrifice things to said Replicator which very well could be you
Crane when did you come back
When punch graced my eyes with this beauty
Close to a week ago
You've only got one server left to claim back
nah i get lore from here im fine
as AI or playables?
that sounds interesting I suppose, more danger is fun but I guess I won't be getting any details on ideas that are still in the production pipeline
playables, there is even a generation one option on the spawn menu
they're called generation one
many ideas are probably pretty solidly formed by don by now, he just hasn't said much about them
surely they find a way to finally increase the official server cap once we get playable humans & gen1s
server slots being taken up by them would kinda suck with the 100 cap and seeing dinosaurs less and less
my favourite out of the entire dev team 
eh, not as big of a problem as you might think
although I do think 120 person slots are a good idea for officials
definitely at least 120, I think 100 is fine but even then the map is a big expanse and having parts of population numbers being taken away by other playables sounds like it would suck
but the team has impressed me time and time again so I'll let em do their thing cause lord knows I want to abduct dinosaurs and feed them to an imaginary god
manmade 'god'
the replicator sounds lame, im gonna call him sanguine and personify the AI overlord
nah replicator is peak
gives me stargate vibes with those little replicating headcrab things
isn’t evrima a temp name and don said he hated it
when are we getting the new name
or is it just the isle
just the isle
now im curious as to why you were banned 
i said today and got muted
Evrima just means 'discovery' in greek
it is not the proper name for the game/game mode
it'll change (back to just main branch/the isle) once they feel like it is ready for Evrima to be the main branch
it is
I WANT DOME
no DOME
Will feel weird to be the "OGs" that will be calling it Evrima. The new generation of isle players will just call it The Isle..
i mean there are people who get confused on the sight of 'spiro' as another branch
they think it is just another dev game branch...
Then they'll make none "legacy"
Or just wipe it.
I doubt they'll wipe it as soon as evrima becomes main branch
Probably not
apparently islemaps got an update
doesn't include the new waterfall area but it's still good
I say leave it, and let it die a slow death in obscurity instead of dying and becoming a martyr
If players can't access legacy they'll forget how bad it is, and they'll develop a distorted retrospective
if you leave legacy up, they can always go back and are slapped in the face with reality
Also for the few players that would like to play, I say why not let them
If it takes any sort of resources to keep legacy up, kill it
If it takes nothing
And it just exists
Keep it
Does anyone have the unedited file of Errant?
I remember someone saying that the date was in the 2100s. Though I doubt it.
I also doubt it's 2172
Me personally, late 90s, possibly early 2000s is a reasonable date range.
Most of the lore was in the 90s-2000s yes but the actual games date is up for debate
Honestly, if there is collectible documents you can collect later on for better lore understanding, it would definitely be something I would go out and do. Especially if you could read it in the main menu.
Boot up computers and find passwords for files across the map
Make it to where only humans can access it. Obviously.
There is a mutation in the future letting dinosaurs read so...anythings possible
I also hope humans play a lot like DayZ.
Leaning, Prone, Crouch, Having to load individual bullets into a magazine. Things like that.
You listed 3 things coming to the game...2 that are in the game
I know crouching and leaning are already in.
Leaning no
Proning and crouching
And Don's talked about mags working like that before
First person is gonna be hell. Something that you can't see around the corner can see you around the corner
I may not care about the extreme accuracy of the dinosaurs because they aren't even the actual animal.
Firearms are however a different story.
Unless they bring back this (they wont)
To be honest, I prefer first person anyway for humans.
It's great for the horror vibe
That is my main go to for games like SCUM and DayZ
Sorry, I meant to say prone and crouching. My mind lapsed.
We know AE was active at least as late as 99
Let us talk about the King 
Queen
And yes
Imagine something the size of your hand that evolves off what it eats flying around dark tunnels, nibbling on rats and bugs until it finds something like a dilo or a troodon
Like a Chestburster to Xenomorph but alot more dangerous
Depends
cooler version of kirby
Lot more gore
Imagine how terrifying it would be for the Matriarch to develop a way to breed fast
Imagine any sort of asexual reproduction from any animal made from the replicator is a frightening thought
True
'oh, there's more of them...'
||basically the jp books in a nutshell, but still is a pretty painful and scary idea. Especially relating to creatures that technically don't truly 'exist' as natural entities anymore||
These things never naturally existed
especially when it comes from a machine-like entity ... than a more 'simple' little man-made production like in JP
technically yes and no
Frog filled genome vs the self aware machine
Is it self aware?
most of these creatures 'existed' to some degree in the past, of course
but this is way more fanatical (via the replicator and/or AE)
hence why they don't truly exist as natural entities anymore
the idea is there
but not the physicality of them
Actually not sure tbh
aye
I don’t think the replicator is sentient
but certainly a lot more complex
likely just not to the degree of an ASI
In reference to the matriarch, strains, or gen 1
Or other similar creatures
(hence most)
because somewhere within there, as we know, there has to be a lot more subsystems within
especially relating to (human) minds
via TOMB
I honestly love the thought that when humans are added that the customization mechanic is lore accurate of the machine picking parts of dna to create them
Oh God I hope we ain't getting customizing like Ark
nah, we ain't
I made a character on that short as hell with his limbs touching the floor
all we know is that it'll basically only be head swaps
lol
(plus gender swap)
of course
peak humanity
something interesting is that we have a general idea of the names/'thing' of things around the map (human stuff)
but, nothing of the sort for the new building in water access
i would really like to know what that area will be used for
because it clearly isn't a holding pen (the actual fenced in water section of the building)
because it has ladders walking into it
It definitely had something to do with research on aquatic species
Honestly, I'm suprised there isn't a structure in the Swamps (yet)
Not the tunnel
there is technically one
but just a tunnel entrance facing the atrium
XD
that is, a new tunnel entrance
the previous tunnel has a new model though... just untextured
Would be fun to sneak a smaller structure deep in the swamps
Imagine if you and some friends had to transverse the swamps to find it for resources or stuff
Gen2?!
That’s crazy bro
thanks
Fish farm is my guess
prawn farm
i just hope that the Gun Gameplay is gonna look way better. Dont care about costumization since i want humans to be pov
interesting
will definetly look different than this, this is the old human pawn with barely anything working setup
send 'em the new one
(looks like a CSGO map)
If it even is the replicator creating them
the test human we have now crashes when you try to do anything sadly, hoping it gets a couple fixes soon
Gameplay first, then customization.
oh if guts and humans drop how about we play a round of cs in guts lol
I still wanna do mario kart/burnout racing on gateway
Raptor bhop
what
i know?
i never said that is was allo
you must be tweaking to be honest
whar
Wah oh
among us
Among us collab is real.
LOL exactly what i was thinking 😭
Looks like that one art with the spino in phase three
Wonder why it’s so shaped
It looks like it’s designed for scooby doo style chases, where everyone runs everywhere and nothing makes sense
I watched this loop like 10 times waiting for the monster to bump someone
jurrasic park new film on steroids
The dead ends I believe are just unfinished portions that will extend in the future
But yeah definitely a very large maze if finished and connected
shouldnt isle dinos be nicknamed dinoformes?
I've actually found the merch picture lore
beipia flew to isle and become dodo like idiot swamp jumpers
you could give them that name, sure
Dinosauromorph is probably fine too
Dinosauromorpha is a clade of avemetatarsalians (archosaurs closer to birds than to crocodilians) that includes the Dinosauria (dinosaurs) and some of their close relatives. It was originally defined to include dinosauriforms and lagerpetids, with later formulations specifically excluding pterosaurs from the group. Birds are the only dinosauromo...
Prob too similar to this
yea thats what ive been thinking too
taxonomically yes, but for broad discourse on dinosaur-adjacent animals it wouldn't hurt anything
I suppose really the isle animals would be Psuedodinosauria
Aren’t these guys not really dinosaurs tho? All or mostly artificial
They really do deserve their own group
it is like saying 'human'
when they aren't technically humans (gen2s nor gen1s)
but for ease of talk
putting them under a 'human' category is just for ease
the thing about taxonomic groups is that they are entirely organized around their relationships to other living animals, but we have no idea where AE sourced dna in making these things
It’s sourced from Ben, he is the pure being all playables descended from
woah
Ben is the Ur-Genome
I do wonder how well they would survive off the island and what species would be able to establish a stable population
I think most small tiers would do kinda ok depending on the environment and competition
Are the growth rates of these things to accurate? Tenos grow to full size in a matter of days, they would outcompete any other herbivore in their niche
In-game days I mean, not gameplay time
I kinda just assumed that was because of game mechanics
that is the thing...
That's what I always assumed too
But then having a higher growth rate makes sense, maybe not like hatching to adult in days but like uhhh
Hatchling to full adult in 1 year give or take? Idk
Still need that size comparison image 
why
If they are truly like real-life comparable animals with longer growth times in lore than what is shown in game time, they may still be competitive with other wild animals
The very large animals would face a lot of pressure from humans, as humans are the greatest danger to animals like big cats, elephants, rhinos, etc
Thanks
The smaller the animal, the more likely we'd see it spread around the globe
worry
Compy world domination
Something like a compy would fill any climate where it can survive, but might be outcompeted by rats who can eat them during the vulnerable egg stage and can keep reinforcement populations in colder climates where compies don't go
On the flip side compies would love to hunt the abundant rodent populations usually found worldwide
Compies are pretty small and rats can be pretty big tbh
And if we take into account accelerated growth rate I feel like compies would mature at a similar rate to most mice and rats
Compies are also more carnivorous than rats, and would struggle to eat human food the way rats can
Look
I'm 1tinydinosaur
I'm rooting for the compies
But rats are just so well adapted, it's an uphill battle
I think they could pull through
Now if we had a climate similar to the mid cretaceous, things might swing toward compy just because of metabolism reasons
Rats do well in the current ice age (and we are in an ice age), but in a world without ice-capped poles I think compy can take the heat better
One day I’m gonna wake up and it’s gonna be like welp the interglacial period is over get ready for snow
Pteros would do well tho
Ptero it's kinda like compy, better in a warmer climate
But birds are dinosaurs adapted to our current climate, so they'd win in our current climate
Ptero has the freedom to migrate to better climate areas
Birds do that, wdym
Ik
I’m just saying they would be able to move to better areas and not be as confined as the compies
and having a migratory season can even be harder to squeeze in, because then that's two (or more) ecosystems where you gotta find a place
oh certainly yes, better than the compies
Flight is an amazing mechanism for species spread
Birds have made it to continental antarctica, where there aren't even land plants
Summer rolls around in North America and the pteros living in South America extend their range north a lot until it gets more chilly and they retreat
meanwhile Procomp in JP novel
Reminds me of the reasons there’s no northern penguins kinda
Most northern is Galapagos
there was an equivalent, it's extinct
Auk moment
the great auk filled the penguin niche in northern climates
I’m a conservation major, I’ve obsessed over all this stuff for years lol
That's fair, my background tends towards zoology, ecology, and evolution
I love all that as well
So, pteranodon
Pteranodon would be a good species for establishing itself out in the world, if not for one factor
humans
No humans, I could see ptera doing great
They’d prob be restricted to islands kinda like some seabirds. If they even made it that far with humans existing
I mean like breeding places
not with ptera stam they will
erm, thermals
some seabirds basically never flap
Thermals suddenly exist
find them in the ocean!!
they're genetic fusions of made up DNA
bam
What is made up dna?
Okay what's that made of?
The code i put in my midterm is made up dna
pf, beats me
So it's like this
DNA is like blueprints
You can have blueprints to a house (herrerasaurus), but what you build it from can differ
Did you use oak, cedar, or pine?
or fake wood
In the same way, dna and the genetic machinery that surrounds it (RNA and proteins mostly) must be made from stuff that we know works for these purposes
Just like you can't use Jello instead of wood, you know you can't just insert random dna when you need a protein that performs a specific role
What do we think the biggest species that could realistically hold out on the mainland would be
mono
depends what the world state is
what is the climate like?
how is humanity doing?
Well isn’t the isle set around the 1990s?
maybe
Walter with the huge answers
Not exactly
The latest date we've seen is 1999, so it probably occurs after that point
We know they use CRISPR technology (a genetic engineering technique) that was pioneered in the 2000's (but maybe in this universe they developed it earlier idk)
Wellllll
The Isle could be set in the year 443,225 for all we know
Unless we end up finding out some more stuff about the state of the world is it unreasonable to assume the world is doing pretty much the same as ours back then?
That's the only starting point we have, but we also know climate plays a role in the actions of AE somehow
So that's the only reason I went down the line of "climate apocalypse" and a post-human world
Hmm
in regards to this, I do think they developed CRISPR earlier than in our world, probably in the 80's or 90's
Well regardless of that fact, I’m thinking the best chance a larger species would have would be in remote rainforest, and if it was rarely encountered. Like how the okapi is so rare despite being comparatively kinda big
Prob have to be a herbie
The thing about that is, it's not easy for a species to muscle their way into a full ecosystem
This is true
Invasive species tend to take hold in areas of human development
or at least in places where we've knocked a few pegs out of the preexisting ecosystem
How about the cases of invasive species that are technically invasive, but are fulfilling a role that is absent in the current ecosystem due to extinctions
Oh yeah that’s kind what this is
For example, mustangs out in the west of the states. Their impact is still being gauged tho.
Plus it’s been a loooong time since horses were in America
So maybe that’s not the best example
These are traits of invasive species
Look at our roster and see what fits those requirements
Herrera, compy, ptero, ptera
Gen 2 lmao
lol yes gen 2
Hypsi?
Gen 2 with their characteristic dispersal ability: Owning a passport
yeah sure hypsi, why not
By extension we gotta add homolo then
WAIT
minmi would survive
Also kinda unrelated but I’d love for certain small tiers to be able to rummage through garbage or dumpsters for some scraps at human bases
can someone explain the various different logos for the game? i understand the regular logo is a rex skull, but what about the rest?
and do the different logos have any lore behind them? or are they just for fun
Rex is the only canon one
This is my favorite though
ah,
OOOoOo,
i want to think that one stands for Hypos in general, but idk
oh wait no im dumb, thats the matriarch
the horde one?
i think there's 4-5 different logos, but idk
Enters the hillside just below the dome
Funny little path leading up to the pipe entrance too
Crazy theory: The isle is an isle but with dinosaurs
technically no
Drainage from the atrium?
probably, and fresh water would come from a high aquifer like highlands lake
Nice
Maybe Perimeter made the swamps
That could be why
Hence the 'flooded' area... (yes I know that technically may not exist)
The new area tiny showed looks like it is connected to the new area Vis showed on the dblog and yesterday
The Atrium houses a room that got overrun by raptors. They killed the devs in charge of making this game come out of early access. 😦
How good yall think are the atriums at making new biomes
Redwoods temperate etc
Theyre big enough to potentionally have their own rains and clouds
Greenhouse
we got any idea where gateway is located?
the tropics!
If we want to get REALLY silly with it, a good number of the birds you hear in the ambience are australian, so maybe near Oceania 
the opening to JW had a kookaburra !!!
JW sucks!
woah
my moms boyfriends kid likes dinos and has been exposed to an unhealthy amount of jp and jw content
hes like 4 he thinks theyre bloodthirsty killing machines
i need to break down the truth to him
xD
Yo, are the Apollan K-Trifolium plants a bioengineered plant that is entirely created by AE?
I think they are.
most likely modified i think
but thats not impossible
cuz yknow the animals are also entirely created newly
hell
propably even the boars deer etc
AHAHAHAHAHAA
well
The pic got removed
Now my laughing looks out of place.......well...uhh....
Trifolium is just the genus for the common clover plant, so I don't think it was entirely created by AE. Apollan Trifolium is probably heavily modified regular clover
(also we know the model for the plants in game are not the final model, hopefully they will look like actual clover in the future)

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Trifolium is a real plant, but Apollan Ktisis does roughly translate to “made by apollo”
latin?
I think so
Pretty sure the bushes are just placeholder models as well
yes I believe dondi said they were placeholders
Am I tripping or was deino bite force higher in the past like 800
guys i could really use your help , this is gonna sound bad but hear me out , i made chatgpt make a python app that accesses a github repo where i uploaded organized folders and all concept art model renders etc , i want to add a lore section too but im not a lore genious so if you wanna contribute let me know in dms and il give you perms to upload to the git page , i could also use some help with uploading concept art to the github page , il attach a few pictures of it
basically
i wanted a easy way to find all the concepts and potentionally lore easy and clean so i got this
yea im in there
but this was pretty fun , heres the link
https://github.com/MuskerBusker/G.I.A.G.
The real f5 was the friends we made along the way
Exactly
What’s that
merch website
nothing
Mm ok
any lovely people here know how long it takes for the zombie virus to turn you lol
Wsg gng
doing some experiments later
Depends on the movie
Its bugged probably
ah really? last night I pressed the funny button on the admin panel and waited half an hour and nothing happened
I’m starting to pick up what your putting down
What is the definition of a strain
Virus, bacteria, what is it
Genetic mutation I believe? @hexed forge yell at me if im wrong
All of the above are all possibilities
Definitely bugged then
Probably just genetic engineering, perhaps induced or introduced by an outside source (virus, food, mutagenic compound, etc)
Like the name 'Hyperendocrin' implies an accelerated endocrine system, resulting in enhanced growth and strength
I think the root of 'Tissoplastic' is just "plastic tissue", in the sense that it's tissue that is changeable and malleable. I know something in legacy mentioned tissue from a number of sources, so it could be a hybrid/chimera
'Neurotenic' doesn't really break down super easily. It's very close to "neurogenic" which kinda just means something that originated with the nervous system
Hypers are easily explained with genetic engineering regardless of the delivery mechanism, as genetics control endocrine output
Neurotenic similarly could just be an extension of nervous tissue throughout the body - something already controlled by genetics
Tisso is harder to explain. My reasoning is that tissos intake flesh to regenerate, and are tied to organ donation/transplantation
(but also potentially related to the electromagnetic spectrum... although not indiciated by the name, of course. I suppose.)
So my idea is that they become an amalgam through action/behavior, and the genetic engineering just gave them the ability to do this (and be universal organ donors or something)
all i've written for what tenic could be though is
And Tenic - which has no official meaning (to what we know), but could relate to the Greek “tainiā”, which means “band” and then translates to any long, narrow, flat structure in the body. It is used in words like “syntenic”, which means “occurring on the same chromosome”.
hmmm
quite so
"Tenic - Of or related to Tenontosaurus"

Neurotenic Teno 
what's up
something wrong?
ohhh you don't like the pings, sorry 
no
wait, no one even pinged you when you did that emote
exactly
so no trike i suppose, to all those who said"watch trike in the morning"
wait this is lore theories
yes
thank you isaac!
no worries
tried to wrap up my "human" segment in the dibble video
I should also make a reference to the video descriptions though
You should yea
YEAH!
Lore lords and ladies, can someone explain to me what the "hyper" dinos people occasionally talk about are referencing? Is this an old version of the isle lore, or the future?
I only played like 50-100 hours of legacy and don't remember them
both
Hypers (also known as Hypos) are the Hyperendocrins
basically creatures with a crazy 'endocrine' system
therefore super hormones
and therefore high growth, hunger, rage, etc
for example H Rex
Hypers are one of three strains we 'will' have in The Isle
Neurotenic and Tissoplastic being the other two
Hypos are essentially a strain that mutates dinosaurs into giant, powerful, armored, and insatiably hungry murder monsters
was that a purposeful 'hypo' sayings...
Were they ever actually playables in the older versions, or just concepts?
we recently got to see Tissoplastic Reaper (a human tisso) in the recent devblog
Hypers were and Neuro spino was
as dev playables
^but as you can see here, you could play them
especially in Progression, which had H Rex as a playble
ahh okay, thanks 💜 I've been playing for so long and always reading chat, but never actually asked what they were.
no worries! Free to ask any more if and when interested
oh yeah, I didn't realize they were related (not familial) in that sense. I knew the concepts existed, but since the lore has changed so much over the different versions, I gave up trying to keep up and just focus on gameplay.
quite fair
Does the replicator twist its creations without technically breaking the idea of what AE wanted?
Does Augustus answer this question?
does anybody have the picture of the actual Trail Camera 'body'
not the actual camera
i think i do but i have to go through a lot of images lol
thanks
@acoustic osprey i have its model too if thats needed
relatable ^
@hexed forge 4k words... BUT I am almost finished (the last 1000 words is all 'i am just going to be paragrapphing and not making full essays on each dot point)
exactly!!
I had a thought, what if, for the islands we never get to see, there’s a topographical description, and then the assets on the island, and this would allow the community to invent their own islands, non-canon, but still fun within the bounds story
mmmm
i would love for some of them (if that does exist, that idea) to contain an outline of sorts (of any type of map-style)
and some without
would be honestly really cool either way
potentially like the hunting lodge
@hexed forge DONE
4.5k words
my script
YAY
Even more YAY
going tomorrow to get a replacement mic 😎
but my normal mic will be working this week woohoo
no.... can't....
oh it may just be
hypers are bulletproof right?
maybe
Gonna be a long video, I’m excited
“We’ve got it just watch Jurassic park” hurts my soul
I think a 50 cal to the eye would circumvent potential bullet proof skin lol
What is thee making
i read this as tea 💔💔💔
Spill the tea Isaac
Lol
these comments hurt
Lore!!!
Exactly
dondi…
Where are you at dondi! We need some information about our beloved “primordial”.
Ts is gon bru 🙏
That reddit is a cesspool that needs to be burned.
Yes
Especially the overly long completion dates or.. X dinosaur is gonna release in 2050. That is getting tiring.
The thing that bugs me about that joke is that I don't think waiting 10 years for something is actually that long of a time, but that's because I'm old

Like yeah, it's a long time
but it feels like a lot less time when 10 years isn't half your lifetime ago
idk I'm just saying people expect things to come so fast
but good things take time and patience
In reality, Evrima has been in around the same amount of Time as Path of Titans.
Redditors after making the same joke about updates taking a long time :

The Isle reddit is a cesspool that needs to be dumped in a fire.
I enjoy Path, but every dino kinda feels the same. Just with different stats.
i am done recording... 50 minutes worth of talking. Woohoo....
I'm hoping for the video ti be 20-30 minutes long
realised that it closely matches this oldish artwork
I yearn for plains like that
quite so
make west access kinda like that and im sold
Camo like this would probably be invalidated by the pit organ mutation.
WHAT WHEN WAS THIS SHOWN
This is legit the first thing I've seen in this server thank you.
Part of me hopes Gen 2s will be able to craft items.
eh even got the vampire from priest
yeah theres a lot of grey humanoid monsters out there
the camouflage shown in the stream though consists of digital camouflage rather than the traditional forest camouflage used here
i recently changed my wallpaper to that
i do hope we at least spawn with some sort of "beginner" kit, AE's cheapest and finest
( good idea to make backpack merch 👀 )
Thanks
But
Me want new ui
Me want spino
why
me want more lore
me want spino to eat rex and be the true king 😉
Also is there anything in the lore about hybrids? Ik we techniocally got mutants (Strains and weird gens)
And something like an omega strain that combines all strains into one?
Or am I just spewing nonsense?
@acoustic osprey I see you answering a lot of questions 🙂
🤣
nothing kinda...
besides The Matriarch
which isn't a hybrid, per say, but can digest and grow 'attributes' of things it eats
Aaaah
Isn't that the thing that starts out as a mosquito and then goes to like 6 stages?
in Tapwing's fan lore, yeah
Ah ok thats neat
Is it confirmed to be in the game tho?
yeahh..... maybe...
so not really xD
the pain of the isle lore
is that the actual 'lore' playables are, yeah, 50/50
more of a 'who knows'
I wonder how thats going to play out, I also many years ago saw someone mention the replicator and that it would be used to unlock the strains in a way... idk if it was just a made-up thing
But it sounded like a nice way to 'transform' into a strain
mmmm
indeed
Woah true
cant wait for human gameplay man, got a couple mates who refuse to play the game until humans are in lol
i just wanna get a couple people together to see if we can make it from one side of the island to the other without a Lost World scenario
mind you unlike JP if a rex sees you in this as a human id imagine your just dead
i suck at games
so i'd probably just be your avg JP Novel character
Plot armor will save you dont worry
I WILL NOT AND WILL NEVER AIM TO BE IN THE ISLE LORE!!!
also
cerato...
I- I never said that.. why you yelling at me.. 😔
this'll take a whi;e
can't have plot armour if you don't exist in the plot to begin with!
oh
that would mean i therefore do not exist
damn
The video?
yeah...
If it's good, the wait will be worth it
i am going to do what i normally do
i hope that is ok
As in? Your editing style orrrrr?
yes
That's fine
yay
what the hell is voice modulation
huh
I can't wait till humans are in either. Until then, I'm preparing by playing Human survival games like DayZ and SCUM
Also, the people who react extremely negatively to humans being in the game are new players.
"It will ruin my immersion!"
Dude, most of these dinosaurs didn't even coexist with one another.
Screw your immersion, eat 5.56x45mm
You're playing a game that has monsters and mutated dinosaurs.
the immersion/paleo argument is always funny to me
Like, did they think dinosaurs built all of the giant structures on the island?
but I've noticed people tend to think of this game in terms of the kind of dino game they'd want
People will demonize "Non-Paleoaccurate" dinosaur designs even though you can do whatever you want with dinosaurs.
I respect the wishes to only play in a survival setting, since it feels more natural, a lot of people are attracted to a world without humans and being immersed in and for a long while, the Isle was the game to play if players wanted that immersion
The isle would be a very different game had it continued on as Human Only
Though, I am curious as to how old the idea of a game that came to be the isle is now, I know development started in 2014, not sure when Dondi thought of anything that became what the isle is now
In my opinion, I think Spino's design is good.
Thank the replicator for that
A "pale-accurate" Spino would get murked
I don't mean paleo in the sense of biological paleo accuracy, I meant it like some people think they are playing in the mesozoic
But somehow with dinosaurs that were further apart in time than humans and rex?
It don't make sense to me
And lore-wise, the dinosaurs aren't even the actual ones.
True, but new players have no way of knowing that. On the other hand, seeing a giant metal and glass dome on the horizon should tell them that maybe they aren't in the cretaceous 
And soon, the constant firing of gunshots of human squads firing at each other LMAO
Its gonna be like living in the Ghetto
And I say that from experience
I’m gonna post up as a Herrera over a big loot pile and watch the bodies pile up lol
I'm just gonna sit in the tree and watch the carnage
ever since kickstarter it was always planned to have humans
I know, I mean like, when did Don sit and begin thinking about the universe that would go on to become the isle
since 2015 but he changed most things and basically only whats canon is since evrima start
Still not quite what I am asking
Development was at least ongoing in 2014
TSL model rex, but the idea is there
Calling it right now, Gateway geographically is located in Eastern Asia close to the equator
perhaps north of Australia, east of the Philippines
its actually on the moon
Kinda random but I feel like a group of dryos would be called a clan and not a herd
Or a troop
It was never human only, either.
You had three planned murderlizards.
but what about wizard lizards?
sup stinkers
once humans are in will they get dirt bikes to ride around on?
Most likely
Hopefully the concept art removes the bad front fender though...
What were the murder lizards if I may ask?
I can't remember my old isle lore timeline
Can't remember when Vega made the three human strains
So they could be them
thats fragging cursed XD
Gen 1’s, eyeless and other things that i don’t know
or it simply might be colossus, reaper and mastermind (echidna)
i still wonder whats primordial.
Weren't they austro, carno, and rex?
ngl though that new reaper model looks sick
the old merc and austro interior trailer lol ooof
Instead of austro it was a megaraptorid iirc
Don can correct me if hes in chat
But there were early megaraptor concepts
there were strain megaraptors yeah
really hoping the idea of strains is gonna make a comeback in the future
They are
ugly mess!
theyre still very much a thing , tisso reaper is a tissoplastic (possibly gen1?)
some of the old concepts are sick tho
i did go looking around on a few sacrificial deinos in the deep ocean and the ports, there were a few things that stuck out to me.
the port north east has alot of chemical refinement equipment, and the pipelines there could've leaked something into the surrounding water.
aswell as alot of the washed up containers being open/empty implies that the contents were spilled out possibly contaminating the island
the estuary part was clearly built to be able to lock the rivers off from the ocean to prevent something getting out or in
giant crabs
this looks absolutely sick, that body plan if its not a hardened carapace could be excellent for swimming short bursts
I rlly hope we get more glance sheets
Maybe on studied strain specimens and stuff
Kid named finger
in terms of 'three' murderlizards?
Maybe
but they were the idea after Humans
being the 2nd (and more successful) founding idea for the isle during pre-release in 2014
although, pretty sure though that vega's three strains are from mid-2015 or 2016?
so probably not the strain humans
Think so
Going to mention this in here.
Before the replay effects update, you could set the year to any year.
Now, its only limited to between 1980 and 2200.
If there is a lore correlation, 2172 may be canon.
^
@acoustic osprey my power went out just as you were explaining something to me 💀
rip
Very windy
A powerline got cut somewhere
But it's back now
What if we turn it to the last day of 2200
wonder if it can tick over to 2201
Ah OK
I'll try it
yay
Replay done loading
Whats the key..
F1
It just.. goes on..