#isle-lore-theories
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most definitely
forwarded it from isle discussion because me and tiny were curious what it said
but i completely forgot it already exists in-game
wish we could know if all assets are 'edited'
and if not, which are edited
to be fair
most of it doesn't really matter
it is kinda a nitpick, a literal nitpick to know
but to be fair
all of the marketplace assets are pretty tame
Always good to look at them though, just in case one is fully custom and has a reference on them
like another subsidiary ... etc
a bit like Wheos
which we know is custom (around just before u4)
to be fair...
if the QR code actually worked...
unless we can 100% confirm which market place asset it is
that QR code seems to be custom
Mhm
(Its a link to a secret item on the merch store that is yet to open again)
I would love that, but definitely unlikely lel
i swear the QR code actually lead to something
i am not dreaming this
oh wait
that is right
it was the weird 'high voltage locker' that had another QR code
the thing is
why is that QR code there?
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they have a shop of 'marketplace assets'
thing is though... it isn't really "3d hard surface" stuff
they do have an earth asset, star system and clouds
but i'm pretty sure Isle uses UE's system for their skybox
i kinda want to contact them
wonder how, likely not something Afterthought realised (?), their QR code was left in a marketplace asset
Hmm
You could try contacting them yea
I personally wouldn't do it since it seems really minor and not really an issue atm
i don't really find it an issue
i'm just curious, outside of Isle
sent
if i don't get a reply, this won't be a first for me
but it is a little mystery. A bit of a weird one, even if it was the fault of the original creator of the model
because it seems on purpose
as it is on a 'paper' (likely a safety paper?) attached to the bottom front left of the model (right in our pov)
but yeah 
i'd love some more lore related QR codes
just looking at this makes me scared
because i know i am and wouldn't be smart enough to be this good at finding little secrets/lore-esque stuff like this
You must overthink every possible solution
dude that game needs more updates, I need more scary secrets
definitely
I knew something was fishy about it
huh
I knew there was more to people playground than just the gameplay
ahhh
so i got confirmation
Yes, that is a decal from our Free Industrial Decals 🙂
There are a whole lot of decals in there including this exact one. The decals are customisable so I expected the QR code to be replaced but this is a surprise haha
thing is though
I wonder if the decal was added via VisualTech
or
from the original creator of the model itself
seems to be this QR code
and looking at the image i sent, it seems like the QR code is a different white than the deal on the top of it
but alas
that'll be the end of that for me, at least
Nice
I think most of the Marketplace assets weren't changed so I don't think Vis did it
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#isle-lore-theories message
we know this, at least
that he refines/edits some of them
Ah
i agree with everything
thanks
Awsome knights
I wonder if any Gen 2 made it off the islands and to civilization, either with or without AE’s permission
And if so, what would they do, would they represent AE as an employee? Would they strive to blend in with others?
Would they have advantages over natural born humans?
be a gen 2, peak physical specimen
has no background, traceable education, or work history
gets a job at Arby's
Could be a bar tender
At like a local pub
Make them models actually
It’d be funny, especially if AE does find them again
other than the dinosaur concept art reinditions ive been doing
what do yall think about doing specifically the Lore related ones? tapwing old ones? wouldnt it be awesome?
like this one
That’d be a fun one, I really liked that neuro spino one you did
oh yeah !
i fr forgot it exists 😭
was really rushed out tbh, i edited the model a lot after it, eh im not sure how other concepts will be
i got this in my list for some time, might be a good start
Another good one
This sounds like a movie plot
this sounds like a movie plot ive seen
RIP
This is sick
All your 3d stuff is awesome
But yea you should do that
"no im totally not instantly hyped by what people say"
The monster
🔥 🔥 🔥
That’s so cool.
Yes I speak for the people
I am the people
Are you recreating that old isle banner or whatever you call it
Super neat, I think I saw you on art station you pose isle models I think
yeah its in my Discord profile, i also send it around here usually 😄
hyper
one goddamn day
"hypers" will be added to game
and it will be named "Hypo X" in files once again.

it is always "X" team going to dino island
and never ... "X" team leaving dino island
They settle in the appalachians and the legend of the rake was born
John is pasty enough to pull it off
which John
the two other johns
why
whuy
y
hello my name is John
And what about Jared and Jimmy
there is only John
hi
yeah no one is aware that there is 2 Johns...
2 more johns
WHAT??? How do I get one?!?!?
Johnny appleseed
get what
some isle lore
Like how did you make that ?
Dudeee i never knew TS1 made this
Thats fire stuff
yes, very
yup mhm
fun thing is, this is the first one i ever made, yet its the best
How do you make em? Blender?!
yup 👍
Keep it up! 💯 Great work, I tried blender making a tree and man oh man it was bad 😂
thanks a lot mate ❤️
ive had that too, i had some tries since 2022 and never started untill feb 2024 so yeah it takes passion a lot of it
even throughout my time i had ragequits for multiple reasons, but its overall fun 🤣
Dangggg Feb 2024!!?!?! thats crazy dueddddddd Good luck on the next ones cant wait to see em 🔥
trying my best man 🙏
wrong chat
He does very well at modeling
Posing and lighting
there you go
WOAH I AINT EVER SEEN THIS BEFORE DANG
I wonder if John Cake is gonna be the default slate for gen 2...would be funny tbh as a homage
i mean, he already is
so why change the model
(and he was the first physical human cameo in a lore video)
What was the context behind this guy and his rexes?
Dawndi
I don’t like any of the human models they’ve used tbh
It's a beta test unfinished model
i wouldn't say unfinished
if anything
the 'finished' model is either naked or with some clothes on, like what we have now
if anything, we might get clothes variants
I really hope you can find different outfits
almost certainly
Naked? I sure hope not. Jeez!
well...
well.....
But there is the naked models of them
Daaaaaang awwaaaaaang
they are modelled
but i don't want to say anything more because ban/mute
Even modeled the shlingy schlongs bruh! Are we just gonna have actual naked dudes running around the isle with their shlingee wingees out??
I doubt, especially with that terminology
we may or may not but we know they exist
oh
I wonder what the point of that is lore wise. Could just be a way of getting rid of waste
Or it could just be easier for clothes and modeling
i mean, all living things need to waste
Would it not be possible without it?
I suppose it is simpler and also makes them more alike to a human
i mean, if you can think of a way to waste that is more than efficient than how animals do it...
Nature does best
It's definitely much easier to model a character naked then put clothes on them
Lore-wise I believe AE just took humans and changed what they needed to change, and didn't think it was necessary to do additional alterations just to neuter them
yeah, they can still likely be infertile and the what not
either by design or just by fault of "X Y or Z"
Or maybe the smiley faces are how they actually look like down there
concept art pachy lay animation
no selfies
sorry
not with that outfit
me when its the rumplestiltskin owl 
yeah i dont totally like some details in it so i dont bring it up a lot 😅
Dude idk what you’re on thats amazing
TS1 is great at the stuff he does.
Yeah I can tell
unles
man 
i mean, its one thing. i made the ground TOO MUCH reflective
dont let us talk about the Iphone 4 bootup
uncles
To me The Isle looks like Jurassic Park
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I’m hoping we get more lore stuff as guts releases
Reminds me of that one scene from Jurassic World Rebirth lol
Yeah I think there’s an evil genetically engineered monster being created in there
Woah
y'know he should probably be wearing gloves
ehhh he's a programmer, he don't know 
he even has butter fingers
but the isle reference jurassic park!
who did it first!!
His work desk was a biohazard.
Uncle Walter?
New Name
Your Uncle Walter
Sorry my Uncle is not named Walter
I don't have an uncle Walter
you do now
NOOOOO

Reminds me of that one SCP that makes itself a part of your family without you realizing
yeah Isaac is potentially an SCP
reminds me of a rick and morty episode lol
Probably with the grey suit from old days
a bit 50/50
believe so
Isaac showing up to your door
#offtopic-discussion message
wah oh
predictions for isle lore this year? Besides worldbuilding stuff
definitely new dino glance sheets
but besides that, what do you guys think
Gen2 lore
Potentially gameplay wise too
like specifically what
in terms of what type of physical lore
not just 'guts info', if you get what i mean
albeit, Gen2 lore would be nice
The timeline of events that led to the creation of gen2. Why were they made?
but like how would/could we consume it
Lore scavenger hunts would ne fun
But I'm guessing video/papers
hmmm
to be fair
I don't suppose we'll get worded 'timeline' notes more than what we've already gotten from Don
likely stuff we'll have to piece together from major and minor events from docs we get, hunts, etc
Guys I think secretly the company is working for cuthullu and they are going to add a secret boss fight where you kill cuthullu and then take his eldritch powers replacing him as the god of darkness
You ever worship a machine before?
I figured gen 1 "failed" them in some way, imperfect design
violent and cannibalistic
Free workers

I see this as an absolute win
I think they serve different purposes, assuming gen 1 are still used/produced
You’re not in lorecord, lemme go get some dev quotes and send you that invite rq
I've barely even begun to look at lore
actually getting interested in it
and thanks 👍
Start here and go down a bit #1167557586699178054 message
Population control, that population being hostile forces who stick their nose where it doesn’t belong 
hostile forces: "we were NOT trained for this"
Discord needs to load my gifs so I’m not randomly selecting from my favorites
FINALLY
against Gen 1s? I'd die of a heart attack before they even got to me
I was given a taser and told to look out for troodons what the actual fuck is that demon looking goober crawling upside down on that tree towards me
LOL
is this where all the nerds hang out? 😎😎😎
live action isle content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgrO8ksWp-Y&t
this video shows a bit of the ae-001
Discord para quem quiser jogar na versão no nosso servidor;
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I just wanted to know why there are cannibals coming out of the walls
It’s so beautiful
Wonder what the idea was behind the houses…
city?
I wouldn’t call it a city but sure?
quite likely a residential village
there is an artwork that shows something similar
wish i could find it
What is AE 001? Old map or a cancelled map?
old and cancelled
Gen 1 in residential neighborhoods sounds like a fun horror movie, like the aircraft AE was using to transport them malfunctioned and they just scatter
kinda want to do 2019 v3 over it
as cool and as lorey as AE-001 was going to be
unless we get something from Don's 'archive' of stuff on AE-001
but i don't see him doing that for years
An artwork? Really
would still love to get to know what happened and what was supposed to happen with legacy
yes
Fr
Legacy: What Could Have Been
a dockyard in front of it with a bunch of buildings behind it
Mini game in a neighborhood with gen 1 and gen 2
thanks 👌
Hard to get footage of it anymore because most people back then didn't really 'explore' it for the sake of making sure we could remember what it would look like in the future
which, yeah, makes sense.
Seemed like all these old maps, back in the day, would 'stay' forever
Maybe when the game is finished? (Hope)
how do you know when you are finished?
Far future when they decide to lay back on adding content to the isle?
Maybe start another project
"There's a skinny man with no face in the closet"
(more so a philosophical and personal question to be fair)
only Don can really say "yeah, this is good"
I finally rest, and watch the sunrise on an grateful
universelore/game
Ok little timmy, go back to bed
They woke up to little Timmy's window broken from the inside and Timmy missing, his body was found scattered out over a quarter mile stretch of sewer tunnels underneath security cameras, which had all been disabled, only to be reactivated with the body there
woah
i can download any version of the isle directly from steam, if you're curious about any version
dev builds? Or just on the legacy branch?
to be fair
the only thing i'd like to see more is just early v3 (AE-012)
The redwood one?
yes
So many maps
So many
the v3 with that titan bone and redwoods?
I was going to say something poetic but I got too lazy and gave up.
I think anyone
So whats the story behind the hypo (neo, etc.) dinos? I've known about them for, like, seven-ish years now and I barely know anything about them.
Pretty sure it's a pharmaceutical iirc
like a forced mutation?
related to medicine
A dinosaur mutated on medication? Maybe...maybe not
we knew of their creation (ish) in legacy
that they were, at least a few of them (like Reaper - Tisso Human) were made there ||being that they made a dozen Reapers, so it is quite likely Tartarus was a whole creation facility of strains and more like The Matriarch||
Warhammer 40k lol
Iguess EIPs might qualify for the weakness of flesh
that also Tartarus was a jail to some extent as well
being that it was also used to hold those that were made, to survey and observe them
do we know if their lore will change in evrima?
but that is only Legacy lore
we're still not really that sure with Evrima
ah
just that we know Strains were made in relation to Medicine
but not the direct cause being such
(Evrima)
quite so
What do we think that relation could be?
that it is related 
I am not sure
honestly, there could be many different answers
Lets speculate on some of those
Maybe they wanted to see what strains did to animals rather than just plants
mmm
this
albeit, you can't really see any villages
the dock just feels so compact/full of lights
and you can kinda see something next to the radio tower, far off, that feels like extra buildings
that could be residental buildings
I'm wondering what Gen 2's goal is gameplay wise. I doubt it's "get better loot and survive" cause that doesn't really fit. It'd be cool if after they complete it they've got to get off the island via like a boat or something but I doubt that.
The dinosaurs have a loop so I'm betting gen 2 (and 1) will
To be fair
the idea of 'coming then going' just feels like not the greatest of loops
I'm not saying just that
Disregarding the boat thing there is probably something else
Doing tasks for research and fixing buildings sounds great to me
I doubt AE actually savors them much anyway
is this official concept art? looks sick
Technically that could be the loop and your goal is to survive and accomplish as many missions as possible before leaving to get bigger and bigger rewards the longer you survive. But thats just one idea of many possible loops
old yeah
i would love lighting like this in game and storms
Thats good to me. Better than looking for stronger and stronger guns to live.
On this topic, they did show off clearance cards in the devblogs. There is definitely something else at hand
Possibly hidden offices for goodies 👀
Higher and higher level areas to go to for better goodies, and more backstory
Mhmmmm
kill someone with the highest card
skip the loop
As long as you've got whatever gun they rockin
Don't expect going at them with a knife while they've got some AR to go well
Unless you gain their trust and then backstab em...or just backstab em literally when you first meet them
i mean, all it would take is a pistol (easily)
I wonder what armor is going to be in the game (if any).
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Food on the go! (and a great beacon for dinosaurs)
Hope dies last
yup
When humans are out I’m gonna hunt down other people
Also, I wonder if they would be able to get at the schooling fish for food
Same.
Finding a fishing rod would be cool
Fish up an elite fish and he just eats you and there’s nothing you can do because you weigh less then a Beipi and a Beipi can get eaten hahahaha funny game mechanic (definitely not salty)
I can see ambient AI (including fish) and certain plants being edible to humans. Dinosaurs though, not so much. That's been said to be....not good to eat.
Is the map barrier force field thing cannon? Or is something else (more plausible) keeping the pterosaurs and aquatic reptiles from migrating out of the island? Would be hard as hell if there were in-universe reports of people seeing escapees only to have AE silence them
I would be very disappointed if the map barrier is cannon
Last we heard, it isn’t
Its definitely, most likely, not canon.
that was my first thought but yes ive seen this before
yea for sure ive always liked this kind of moody landscape concept
<@&933486433342222376> oh dear.
squints at likely lunary
hehehe
290,346.711, -76,791.415, 20,154.541 fun fact, at these exact coords you get underwater sounds while being in the forest
Buggy map design, thats all
ye
hi
Yea, we found this one
As cerato said
Painful
^
<@&933486433342222376> scam link
oh boy free stuff
Huh 
yes
@cunning folio Imma talk here since cd in gen is buns
Hypers are the main strains of dinosaurs, boosting stats like attack and defense but they have a horrible metabolism, they need to eat all the time
Ooooooh
WHAT THATS SICK
What mutation am i looking at here tho
Hyper
Oooooh
This is for the giga, but its the old model
This is a nuerotenic spino, another type of strain
WAIT SPINOSAURUS
SICK
Its regular form is getting added to the game too
Thats so cool
not just metabolism, anything related to the endocrine system
So hyper aggressive, growth, metabolism, etc
Sickkkkk
Yeah isaac is the guy you wanna talk to about lore and upcoming features besides dinos
BETTTT
https://youtube.com/@saphirceratosaurus?si=S5V_mJcGi_TWVRCN this channel (unofficial) has news from devblogs and streams, if you wanna see animations for the new dinos. I watch them all the time, and they’re cool
For this channel in general, I want to focus primarily on immediate updates when possible.
I will not offer commentary or theories in the videos themselves (minus the dev streams due to dev request in changing the format), this is strictly for what the devs put out.
Gameplay from me will only be during quiet times for now.
Art for the badges ...
^ agreed
if you want to learn some old lore via youtube
I'd recommend MeatyLock
however, we're always free to answer any questions you may have 👌
Yes this man will yap for all of eternity about the isle’s lore
exactly
hahaha
Exactly
lol
“Lots of interesting plants” I’m interested….
I’m pretty sure there are but could be unofficial from tap
Tapwings art never disappoint
I love taps art
Rex
Minmi.
Slide
If pteras ever get a strain, it’ll js be kamikazes everywhere
Veiny ahh
he got tapeworm
I like how the veins are in place of its eye
yeah, it is quite interesting
Wish we knew more how Neuros and Tissos worked
especially with Neuro 'eyes'
Tissos huh? Never heard that name in a while. What do they even look like

one of the only official designs we got of a tisso
The tissoplastic Rex wasn't official?
'one of the only'
And what creature is this for
Cause that ain’t no dino
this is official
but very old and these designs by Vega didn't really contribute anything visually to the more 'modern' look of strains (of legacy)
olddd tisso design
I still think they'll be zombies 💅
maybe besides the 'worm-ish' look of neuros
Yeah ngl that js looks like a different dinosaur
at least, Neuro Rex didn't really change much
Hyper means tank, neuro means speed and what would tisso be?
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Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens
Hm. Reaper sounds good for those scythes for arms
stealth maybe?
Neuro could also be a mage/wizard/mana-esque type of creature
I don't really imagine it being especially fast
Tissos were supposed to be smaller than their normal non-strain versions
Phasing would be a good ability for the neuros, either invis or straight up time skipping
Seems js like a useless strain for me tbh
Tissoplastic probably have some stealth advantages, AND I HOPE.. They have the special venom ability
i should definitely resume my next video script
i feel like i should also address the actual things i missed/forgot to refer to in my dibble lore video
nothing big, not 20 mins long
but something to say 'here is what i was supposed to go through if i wasn't rambling'
I imagine tissos in evrima to be a lot more like the matriarch that kind of freaky arms everywhere regen based character
Although I do still hope we get to see this guy some day
we do know they're related at least
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isle ███. File retrieved from ARCHIVE (7). Recovery operations for source material is ongoing.
do you think Dondi will update this to say the recovery operations are now 'complete'?
or what if...
remind me the source on this?
oh yeah archive 7 shoulda tipped me off
in reference from this

Nah
I doubt it will be updated
It kinda reads like an activity log, so it's just a snapshot from that time period
It's not like it's a wiki or something that would need updated
(i have been writing each dot point i should answer, almost finished)
fair since it says this anyways
Proceeds to somehow forget the main point again
I cant speak today holy crap
i have about 10 things down!! this should be basically it
“watch gateway F5 be a guts tunnel that was used to transport the video” (give my opinion: no)
What are Injections?
What is Archive 7? - talk about AE Core as well in relation to such
Who was the human? What was he doing?
What do the glitches slides mean? What does it infer upon the island of Gateway and what AE are doing
- Therefore the purpose of the dibbles?
TARTARUS Mention
Omnis vs Dibble? What does it mean in relation to EIPs, etc.
- Describe what EIPs were and now are -> TOMB (therefore relation to Tartarus?)
Finish with what has changed over the past year, from what we know about this (nothing) and how the camera location has changed in-game
this should be everything, right
oh and
I should include comments about the 2nd video
Usgx-9921-c578 (b)
just wrapping up if anything changed/we learnt anything lore-wise from it (i.e. not really)
- Omnis vs Dibble? What does it mean in relation to EIPs, etc.
-- Describe what EIPs were and now are -> TOMB (therefore relation to Tartarus?)
Im betting none of the specimens we see in the video are EIPs tbh.
i gotta give my comments on it though
not just on EIPs though
but the idea of sending them to basically be killed a few hours (?) later
ties into the idea of what Injections are and mean
with or without them being EIPs
Did you mention the stuff about the oranges and cashews?
Ah cool cool cool
kinda with the slides dot point
but i'll make a new one below it just so i don't forget
yay
Is this another Roblox game lol?
yeah
woohoo though
the dot points should be finished
now to actually write...
mmm mmm,
Ill look through the video again
Potential stuff to add in.
Actual lore
- The migration data itself, breaking down the travel path of the Diabloceratops injection, how many died and where, etc.
Just some fun mentions, not actual lore
- Quetz was originally meant to be featured in the video. (Probably as a background vocal only, I think it would just be nice to mention)
- What happened to the camera in game? (Idk talk about the lore hunt, was the camera removed, where, etc.)
Idk just some stuff to add
Just some cool stuff to make the video longer and take as much from it as possible
oh true that
thanks
I'll add those
a bit more will make the video more 'video sized'
thanks! I won't forget to mention you for the thanks
Exactly
1000 words...
i'm only on the 1st dot point
(plus the introduction, which was 200 words or so)
Damn, Is that a lot compared to your previous video?
Either way you could probably find a way to shorten it if it's really a lot 
dibble video was 2800 words...
Make it long I will watch
hopefully I'll have a lot less to say about the next few dot points
hopefully it'll be better quality at least, than my last ones
OH LOL
Erm
Uhhh, maybe you can shorten it!! Somehow, remove repetitive elements or something.. 
Yay
i definitely feel like the rest of the video will be shorter, hopefully, because it is a lot less theory work
and more so summing up and giving comments on things
especially since it is harder to spot and notice because the 'lore' bits of it are glitchy and very short in the dibble video
Whats it on again
the script? google docs for ease
if that is what you are asking about
My bad didnt clarify. What is the video about
ah yeah
#isle-lore-theories message
just this
i.e. a "what i missed"-type video
because i really did miss a lot of actual points i should've gone over in my last lore video
Nice...getting into the nitty gritty
carrying the entire isle lore YT with this one 💪 🪨 ⛰️
i cannot wait until others start actually pumping out lore videos and analysis' etc
people got into a habit a few years ago once Apollo Files starts, but to be fair... they were ARGs
like The Matriarch video from a few months ago was nice!
I wonder if when don's finalized the lore and it's all figured out if he'll ever go back to talk about legacy lore...
I need it
As irrelevant as it is...I want knowledge
yeah, definitely not going back to fix anything
but i would love to see his harddrive of all legacy stuff
Not to fix any thing I just want to know
What was that original story
And there can be gaps I don't care
which story though
The story of legacy
What was the backstory, or the future, or the dark secrets of the island
in terms of development or lore though?
because legacy lore changed a few times
same with its development to be fair...
even with Evrima
albeit, i doubt all of these stories were 'complete'
as you said, definitely gaps
Both
but knowing Legacy's plans, therefore lore, from 2017 into 2019 (the year that never came), would be my dream
i don't mind with super old legacy stuff
if we never get anything on that old stuff, i don't mind
but the phase before recode is an era I would love to know more
Wonder if we'll get anything with Olympus Transmitter ever again
Heh...
It's like, one of the most important things in the lore, legacy at least.
We are most likely going to see it again 
if we get a lore snippet regarding the Olympus transmitter in, idk, phase 3 or something I wouldn’t be surprised, it seems like it could have some pretty good use in evrima lore
D Rex .... Will u guyz be excited if its in the game ?
Magna was considered a hypo?
The Bunkers no longer hold the same inhabitants...
Help fund it!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2051044627/the-isle
I still think it's the best trailer
no, magna is a whole diffirent speciement
Magnas were in essence "perfected" but slightly weaker Hypers.
Magna is scrapped
Well we know it still exists, but I want stuff like the old twitter account
random thing but,
my theory that the gigantic ribcage that got moved to under a pond is the skeleton of a Hypo Argentinosaurus or Titanosaurus, and probably starved to death,
No it was an islandwalker...something that we know next to nothing about
where did you get that from?
not tryna question your knowledge, gen curious
People who talk in here...know their stuff
Dm's rq
the general theory is that it was either an Islandwalker, Primordial... or a Colossus
however, Islandwalker made most sense because of its name
and Colossus was a bit too small and the skeleton wasn't very humanoid-like
no
Magna was a rehashed PCE Rex
literally almost the exact same model
Wait a minute what was primordial
we knew nothing about it
it was mentioned once
that is it
So it can range from a place to something like islandwalker?
?
im gonna have to do some catching up, lol
to be fair
you don't have to with that stuff
it is very old and almost certainly won't come back again
it was epic
The Colossus is still real tho.
It is not gone.
However it may have gotten a redesign.
🥲
IN TERMS OF COMING BACK
no
Oh
I remember that old head model they did
I’m not a big fan of its design but it’s cool
I love tapwings art for it though it’s really awsome
true, but id still love to know all the lore, so prob in my spare time ill look around the old lore sheets and such,
I’m curious too
It might have been a human with a proposterous amount of hyper testosterone
always free to ask us question 👌
interesting
Looks like a titan from ark ngl
Like the ice one but with green fur
Def not the face or tail, but similar body structure
What is colossus guyz ?
genetically modified creature containing mostly human dna
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Collossus Reaper and Mastermind remind me of the Groudon Kyogre Rayquaza trio from Pokémon,
i think the trio are humans that got the same injection as dinosaurs,
(i may say stuff thats obvious to all of y'all, but i havent had anything to do with The Isle in years)
I believe they are indeed human versions of the three strains, yea
is there a map with all the fences
You can see them on vulnona
oh the timing of that was uncanny
lol
What kind of human?
Just said humans in old lore
Can someone explain to me what gen 2 is, when I last heard they were just hired mercs but then I heard they were made by AE and I'm so lost
I think what the human was doing is pretty easy to awnser as I'd say its safe to assume he's an AE researcher just monitoring dibbles
Give this a read https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
Aight thanks
I agree, however I do want to try and 'answer' who he was
At least in terms of theory work
Tbh I doubt that's really ever going to be expanded upon
I feel if he was a specific and lore important person he would've at least had a custom model
Fair
I should've said it better lol
Less so about the details of the character himself, and more so the 'who' he was subtextually
The meaning behind why they used a gen2 model, what Don has said, etc
If that makes any sense
He is like ERRANT-291 but even worse, that being one time characters that'll basically never return. I don't even think we'll ever know about whom he was as a person/ thing
@acoustic osprey How's the video going
haven't done much since
just because uni has started
but i want to work on it tomorrow morning before i go, i got a late class so i'll have all the time in the world
Nice.
wonder how lore-ish the next steam banner will be, assuming there will be a new one
hopefully once Evrima becomes main branch
they do a good old rehash of everything on the steam page
because as cool as this is
if they did a 'v3' version of this
definitely have to redo the model a bit, plus the tunnel and vehicles
(as this is basically the v1 version, same idea, just older)
what video you making?
I hope they just redo this with more evrima colors maybe'
I quite like that one
a summary/part 2-ish video from my last video
because i only basically said 2 things about the dibble trail cam video
realised i had to actually properly look at it better with more points
sweet ill keep an eye out
mutant human i think
wait no thats gen 1 right
yes lul
wasn't this one a magna utah
or sum like that
atleast we had a skeleton about island walker in v3
we have nothing about primordial
no concept art, no skeleton type thing
literally just a name
maybe we'll see it what type of flawless animal it is in the future.
neuros are incredebly smart
maybe they can telepathically talk to other species
or even controll electric fields which would end up at a electric shortage
which is really bad for the gen2's
gen 1's are not mutant
atleast i wouldn't call them mutants
for me, they're more of a ape
a really dangerous, big and prob smart ape
how are you defining mutant, here?
mostly biologically, things like 2 headed snakes, baby goats with extra legs, etc.
i personally think that gen 1's are a mix between dinosaurs, humans and maybe apes
It's just "mutant" in the common parlance is a very ambiguous and poorly-defined word
It's really just "any thing outside the norm, usually related to genetics"
Within the context of scientific development at AE, I don't know how helpful such a term is going to be
Do you mean accidental vs intended creations?
yes they seem to combine traits from across genera
the feets really remind me of apes
atleast the ones that lives in the trees mostly
a chimp's feet and the gen 1's feet
yes they seem to have opposable digits on the hind feet
they look very similar other than the large claws
But remember a trait like this could simply be locked away within human genetics. Similar to how some people will grow a tail because we still retain genes for those, they are just usually turned off
So you are adding apes into the mix, but humans are a type of ape
true but, humans don't really show this type of a feet
just like how we don't have tails
we lost it because we lost our ability to climb long ago
But that's the thing, traits aren't always "lost" just because they are silenced
I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here admittedly
true but, usually they're really small
so i don't think a trait like that caused by human genes wouldn't be that similar to a chimp
im talking about the prehensile feet
This doesn't mean we don't still have the genes for a tail. Most traits are the result of multiple genes interacting, so if only some genes are reactivated you can get partial expression of a trait, like a short tail instead of a full tail
well true
In any case my point is mostly unimportant, gen 1 could have any number of animals in the mix, we don't know and can't say for sure
maybe in the future
That would be nice but be even more annoying for mixpacking
ehh guess not
mixpackers are usually not smart and they make bad choices in their gameplay style
BUT that means they will understand what other dinos are saying so they can avoid or hide from them
and its gonna be really hard to achive strains so...
True, but some are actually really smart especially in big groups
Yeah true ig it is worh it
im pretty sure they'll gonna find a solution
Yes
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I mean
they are kinda like spliced human looking things
I wouldn't consider those to be mutually exclusive
Actually...some of them probably are mutants cause each one seems to have some difference
well, that is if they were born different
and had the process/action of mutating, i.e. changing in form or nature
or even via birth
if it was intentional by AE, even if they truly didn't realise what they were doing, i wouldn't say it would be mutant-esque
however, to normal people
because Gen1s are humanoids, it is easy applicable to call them 'mutants'
In a strictly scientific context, I'd say the term 'mutant' always seems to be used in relation to a normal state
So with animals we call the normal state the "wild type" (even if it's a domesticated animal), and then a mutant is a variant from that wild type
Mutants are often named for the name/location of the genetic change
So let's say some scientists knock out a gene called "ZQP", they might call this mutant strain a ZQP mutant
Of course many genetic changes like this don't have any observable physical effect, and certainly not anything monstrous like the mutants on my childhood cartoons
So if we are going with what most people would call a mutant, yeah gen 1 are kinda mutants
In a scientific sense... not really? If they are an established lineage of artificial organisms then they are kinda the wild type in this instance. And then relative to the basic Gen 1, something like the Eyeless would be a mutant strain (strain in the strict scientific sense)
I do kinda love the vibe that gen 1 are these adaptive mutating organisms that change to fit the environment
Perhaps connected to the mutation system as we see it in game, in some way
If anything, strains, especially human strains, would definitely be mutants
Probably yeah
Strictly speaking, a mutation is a change in DNA sequence
So if the process of becoming a strain changes the DNA itself, it's a mutation
That can be contrasted to something like genetic engineering, which usually uses a targeted mechanism to effect genetic change
And by targeted mechanism I mean it's probably a retrovirus
In Legacy, that would be the case
Strains weren't customly made like The Matriarch would've been
At least, human strains
A given human body whom which is given the strain and mutates
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What does Æ mean?
Apollo Engineering
(as said above, that company is the main company we have been and are following from legacy and evrima lore)
quite likely a subsidiary of a bigger Apollo company, although we're not really 100% sure
we just know there are other subsidiary Apollo (Engineering?) companies like Apollo Red, Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, etc
but AE is a bio-engineering corp
Started off in botany and then went into more food and/or agriculture
however making dinos =/= food
i wonder if we'll ever have a B-443 reference for old times sake
or would that be crossing the "no PC/other games" line
to be fair, that would still invoke the idea of Magnas
which, no. Big no no
dumb question honestly lol
||i was just rewatching the old PCG trailer again...||

erm
yes
Noice
Replicate yourself and make infinite lore videos !!!!
the only hope for me for next HT with GUTS is just the entrances being redone with the new models
Probably the safest bet, but even then-
yeah, can never be safe in the isle
you must survive
woah
if they don't get replaced
at least one or two things are added?
I doubt the Hub will be added
maybe
There's actually some proto-tunnels that shave off travel already.
oh, very nice
interesting, like the tunnel at the docks that goes under the radio tower?
Yes. Already connects out, but the tunnel itself is the placeholder for shape.
So it's truly a shortcut with no side areas.
Ah
Like swamp tunnel.
ahhh
Honestly I expected the tunnels to be larger/"rounder"?, was a bit surprised when seeing it first on stream.
But oh well, this is what happens when you stare at that one legacy art piece for too much 
dryos are starting to take over the map and install tunnels 
woah
yeah
would love those big ones
would add some fear factor
but if all tunnels were large and big, would they take away from that fear? would you just get used to it being pretty big
because, like, nothing that big is really going to be coming out at you... right
but even the current tunnels would still be pretty scary. More claustrophobic
Wouldnt it be awesome if there was a GUTS generator.
Every server restart the orientation of the GUTS tunnels and facilities changes
Similar to that bunker idea
(Of course not all of the tunnels, talking about the deeper side of gateway I suppose)
I have claustrophobia so it shall be perfect 
Legend says the less you post this gif, the less that minion suffers

Probably a reason we build things on a grid, then.
Uh oh

Honestly that tunnel gives me steam banner vibes
Changing mental definition of GUTS from highway to labyrinth now
Pose a Rex in the tunnel from this perspective and you get another 2 day Rex Hypetrain in this server
Jokes aside, spooky.
Are the lights off for a reason? Or are the lights just that dark.
just saying...
https://gyazo.com/8d4aea4c75556b3abb273bb3cf8f7ad4
🙏 😔
Jokes on you. There is no light in the actual tunnel. It's just recently been converted to a different mesh and don't affect the occlusion, so light is just bleeding through the back there.
There's a singular light source at the entrance that functions.
HIGHLANDS
Write that down, WRITE THAT DOWN.
Anyway I could probably geolocate that brb, unless the terrain changed
That's an extremely ominous bush
lol
I think it's the volcano personally
oh that looks really sick
Riverdelta region I suppose
THATS SICK
really getting those overhang and overgrown vibes now
Nesting in the facilaties around a GUTS entrance would be cool, lots of places to hide, but next to a bottleneck for food
I need to see the Docks again, in their overgrown state
mmmm
No ivy yet. Sanctuary also not done.
can't wait then for HT, hopefully, it seems
An overgrown sanctuary.... might be a pain for juveniles 
also, i see this says landscape assets are out of date? does that relate to foliage?
or a blessing
It doesn't. It's from me doing stuff.
ah ok
Love the brutalist concrete walls, very base and practical
Highlands guts is neat
The stream clip was valentines fools, like April fools, but on valentines.

As long as there are good changes I’ll be happy
you had to say that right now
Most are glorified entrances right now with little other purpose.
This definitely seems like the new delta/river region
Look hard enough and you can tell exactly where it is.
looks like one
water access..? no..
Could be the dam
why
it's that little bit of orange that makes me think it's there
Actually
Possibly
It could be either
looking pretty spacey inside...
I know I’ll be using guts as a highway
Now I just need more fences and my dreams shall come true
Yes, but the interior connections are still being built, so while we have rooms, they need to be connected for the layout.
And then everyone larger than a dilo can complain about their inability to navigate or see well in those areas.
ahh interesting
so what you're saying is troodons should nest in them
Wild guess
I really doubt its volcano,
Unless the map changes brought in highland terrain
my best guess in somewhere on gateway
It's near the lake.
the canyon near south plains?
It cant be Volcano tho
i've hopped on my ptera, i can check some places >:D
this one is definitely the one at the volcano
next to the bridge
I'm less excited about tunnels than I am underground facilities
Unless theres new highland terrain at volcano, which may be a bit weird
bunker though for the other one? Maybe no
Definitely
Im staring at every rock I come through at highlands.
Only to find out that everything in that image is probably new/moved
HOLY
what a funny underground resident...
Sorry just precaution
Learned my lesson with Vis
Model looks sick tho
The gremlin
👀
Maybe even goober status, we'll see how many sewers he hangs out in
imagine the words "magy marsh" between those jaws. perfect propaganda
Shush
they don't have lips LOL
We might need them on our side soon, don't make enemies
we are the diplomats™️
Diplomacy is the name of the game
still trying to figure this one out, did they edit the terrain around it or did they just put the structure in somewhere?

So how about them there oceans that look relatively unfilled with spooky things
Probably
yeah was going to say
that is probably where
interesting choice
Open up the atrium for the love of god
We'll get spiro rework before that happens probably 
soon
Having the CCTV or security system named Argus could be neat
@ionic sable 👁️
Did I stumble upon Apollo Files stuff?
lol
Look to the humble Io for advice on how to gracefully be an EIP
Do not wake him from his slumber
He suffered too much in the diplomacy game already
wah oh
(The lore legion shall win)
He watched you threaten to revolt multiple times
On turn 1
HEY HEY HEY
I was in a state of shock and anger when coming back home only to see my masterplan be thrown off the battleplans

Cheer up, we're well positioned and haven't made any enemies
bro this thing is gonna be terrifying
but which resident is it 😊
lol
Its uncle Ben living in the basement while he evades the AE police
oh wait you could be right
huh
unless, that is, they made the muscle more prominent in the actually model
because it doesn't look 'defined' in the artwork
That, or it's a different goober
i doubt it is the other version
could be a 3rd ... or eyeless....
yea its gen 1
Wouldn't be surprised if it's this one
Seems to be V2
v2 has the big mouth gap
i doubt they'd change that about it
Might be something else, I'm leaning toward a more finalized version of v2
Then its V3
naw they wouldn't make a 3
Isla V3
Clearly
why not
They definitely would
artwork for a 3 is one thing, modeling for a 3 is something else entirely
(unless they already have the two modelled)
You never know how much work has been done in the background
important thing to mention about v2 is that it doesn't have sharp teeth
this model has sharp teeth
Like when Gen2 progress was shown in the stream for 5 minutes, that was a bit shocking I guess
Perhaps...
maybe a different head option that is related to v1
no two abominations look the same 🥰
Either V1 or V3
All look good
true yeah
Headswaps + skin customization would be neat
if they got the body finished for one, that means all they'd have to do is just heads
We need a gen1 with wrist-wings
Clearly
i mean, if you switch between v1 and v2
only the head changes
basically same with Gen2s
it is cool
stops meta choices via hitbox changes
what if gen 1 is just a carnivore while gen 2 is a herbivore?


