isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

uh oh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/all-this-is-true-because-it-rhymes-lego-movie-gif-14579344

[lethal moat]

Now I'm picturing gen 2 having a relationship like the clone troopers in star wars

[hexed forge]

hahaha

[acoustic osprey]

one of them goes rouge, makes a raft
washes up in Madagascar (or akin)
becomes a farmer

[pseudo fable]

Not far off.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bb-good-soldiers-follow-orders-gif-24627961

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, I can imagine that

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-star-wars-clone-wars-salute-gif-16364225

[lethal moat]

Heavy was the hero of my childhood, went out a legend

[pseudo fable]

We inherited miracles and were entrusted with dreams.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-bender-neat-picture-camera-gif-17934157

[acoustic osprey]

sounds like a lot to carry

[lethal moat]

I love discussing the morality of clones, especially clones with expectations, because if you raise someone for a purpose, without giving them a choice in the matter, they are fundamentally enslaved

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/OcHg.gif

[hexed forge]

I never watched clone wars.

[acoustic osprey]

damn

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[lethal moat]

You missed out

[hexed forge]

I mean- I could still watch it.

But it would take a bit for me to get to it. Got a few more stuff on my watchlist first

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/razor-stak-the-clone-wars-lightning-squadron-commander-ponds-units-gif-21657540

Gen 1 vs gen 2

[hexed forge]

Lol

[lethal moat]

It gets very dark for a kids show

It uses a loophole of dehumanizing extremely human characters because clones are expendable, even if they have feelings

Droids are much more humane by comparison, which could also be something the isle plays into

[hexed forge]

Gen2, perhaps

[lethal moat]

"Why would you create something capable of independent thought?"
"They're useful, and can do a really good job."

[hexed forge]

Too much independent thought is where the problems start

[pseudo fable]

*Why would you destroy them? seems a better response.

[lethal moat]

They're assets, they belong to the company, and either outlived their purpose, were becoming a nuisance, or both because taking the resources to maintain something you no longer need gets expensive

And you can use the excuse of "We aren't finished yet", to do that as many times as you need until you get what you want, the illusion of perfection, or the pursuit of such, can be pushed a long ways

[hexed forge]

If AE ever got to the thought of destroying Gen2, then possibly they were becoming a nuisance? I don't see how gen2 would become useless to AE. At least from what we know so far.

[pseudo fable]

You could.

If you weren't bucking that against the highest authority.

[lethal moat]

My immediate thought is to either find a way around it or take the project somewhere else

If you believe what you're doing is for the betterment of everyone, why would you stop, short of doing irreparable damage to something you care about more

Really depends on who's working, who the authority is, and how much that authority is respected

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/KNfS.gif

[lethal moat]

Yeah, the point is that it wouldn't use that excuse, another alternative is that they're evidence

Gen 2 interpersonal relationships being similar to that of clones makes some really fun roleplay potential in game, that could be really fun

Hold up, why did the republic bomb kamino? I haven't gone on a star wars binge in a good minute

[pseudo fable]

It's also very much not that.

[lethal moat]

I need Isaac to bail me out on this one, or Cerato, before I try a topic change

[hexed forge]

This authority, is the factor that is trying to destroy gen2s?

Im just trying to get more clarification

[lethal moat]

I'd imagine it's the procedures/higher ups that enforce ethics

[hexed forge]

Apollo telling AE to destroy gen2s for insert reasons but AE does not want to- hence the "Bucking off the highest authority" message.

This is how I understand it at least.

I dont know what is higher than AE other than Apollo

Well, the government, but iirc the government doesnt play much of a factor in the lore

[lethal moat]

I interpreted that as the highest authority doesn't want them destroyed

[hexed forge]

I interpreted the opposite

Mmmmm

https://tenor.com/view/who-gets-the-pizza-slice-thy-reall-ugly-stare-gif-13890921

Don just left the chat didnt he, so we will never know..

[icy onyx]

😭

[hexed forge]

Welp

[lethal moat]

Eh, we'll figure it out eventually

[hexed forge]

mhm

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/p8VOHRhTbgR.gif

[hexed forge]

yay

Thanks Don

Soo

[lethal moat]

Them being destroyed could be a byproduct, rather than the goal maybe, which might align better with sending so many to a dinosaur infested island (with some perceived goal?)

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[lethal moat]

I wonder if it's attempted to be justified, or just accepted as a necessary evil?

[hexed forge]

The lower authority has different perspectives on the idea of what gen2s are, compared to what the higher authority think.
They might be considered as a nuisance, not completing certain tasks, they are refusing to be a slave to AE.

While the higher authority disregards these issues and just, "Hey, we spent a crap ton of money on this project, we achieved so many scientific breakthroughs, make it work, you cannot destroy it."

Sending them to a dinosaur infested island might be an attempt to just destroy them all?

[lethal moat]

Or it's the opposite, where those more involved think that they need to terminate the program, or something similar, or just iterate faster by getting rid of the old ones, there's a few options, but the higher authority's morals have power over what those involved are allowed to do

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-game-the-end-is-never-the-end-loop-ultra-deluxe-gif-23996323

[hexed forge]

"where those more involved think that they need to terminate the program"

Thats what I said

Lower authority = more involved with the project,

In my context

[lethal moat]

Ah, we just disagree on the authority's reasoning, and we are assuming the lower authority also wants them destroyed

[lethal moat]

Yoink

[hexed forge]

Yep, I guess

I believe the Higher Authority does not want them destroyed due to the amount of effort, money, and time that was spent on the project

For example, if Gen1 was actually a failed project at first- AE still found a way to use them in the end.

[lethal moat]

I'm starting to think a change in leadership and ideals might have happened at some point, which my have thrown a wrench in some plans

[hexed forge]

Titanomachy

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Its possible

[lethal moat]

I may be misremembering something that was said, but I want to go look for a quote rq

[hexed forge]

hmm

[lethal moat]

I can remember where I was when we had the conversation, but can't remember the conversation specifically, it was about AE's ceo

Ah well, i'm off to bed, have a good one all

[icy onyx]

goodnight

[lethal moat]

Have a good one everyone except Daviid specifically, he has a great one

[icy onyx]

😊

[acoustic osprey]

sorry, i had a lesson lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gif-25662578

[acoustic osprey]

technically it was the early Empire that did
so the Kaminoans would not use their own tech against the Empire

[hallow ruin]

im sorry im not reading chats underthis lmao
but, im not sure what the radio waves mean?

is this fr meaning these are stuff human cant be exposed to?

like, nuclear?

[acoustic osprey]

electromagnetic spectrum

Radio frequancy fields at this site exceeds the FCC rules of human exposure.
faliure to obey -- ---- sings and site guidances for working -- radio frequancy ------ -------- ----- -- serious injury

---

[hallow ruin]

i know radio waves arent gamma rays

but what makes radio waves dangerous

[hallow ruin]

ill have to try and.. read it my self i might get more words

[acoustic osprey]

in a high concentration, it can be

[hallow ruin]

how dangerous?
like how dangerous can it get

[acoustic osprey]

Beyond this point:
Radio frequency fields at this site
exceed the FCC rules for human exposure

Failure to obey ... .... signs and site
guidelines for working ... radio frequency
........ ....... ....... in serious injury.

[acoustic osprey]

hard to say because it is very weird
but would be burns

imagine being in a microwave

[hallow ruin]

hmmmmmmm

[hallow ruin]

wait
RF

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-iasip-charlie-conspiracy-gif-11562330

[hallow ruin]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

it is ALL CONNECTED!!

AE's biggest enemies

RF (radio frequencies)
and
EC (employee compensation)

[lethal moat]

I need that workers comp

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[obtuse yew]

i have a question do we know what the biodomes in gateway are for

[lethal moat]

Not quite yet, we’re waiting for more stuff inside them, it was heavily implied that the largest dome would have redwoods inside of then though

[obtuse yew]

ah cool didnt know they will use them to implement diffrent biomes

[acoustic osprey]

all we know, right now, is that the domes are made to emulate an environment(s) for research

[muted reef]

So the domes are gonna have an outer perimeter of rooms in the walls and then you go into the open biome in them correct?

I mean we've already got that with perimeter

Theres an entrance to the building interior and then an entrance into the open fields in there

[hexed forge]

Probably yes

I dont think theres a direct, singular tunnel, from the outside to inside the dome.

[muted reef]

I know there will be multiple entrances

[ornate silo]

Yes or No
Canon to the isle

https://youtu.be/2-bLLykYLjM?si=P2AjIp9u_r22CsPE

[acoustic osprey]

sadly no

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1229174325744242758/Diabloceratops_Migration_Data_Short_Gif.gif

saying that, thinking whether we should reconstruct this
probably not really worth it
but, I might. Got nothing to do this week besides work

[hexed forge]

Its like 2 frames lol, It may or may not have been a straight tunnel and the dibble possibly made multiple turns through various different tunnels to get in

[low scarab]

def canon

[acoustic osprey]

unless

[robust rose]

and u know what else is massive?

[acoustic osprey]

the isle, hopefully soon

[robust rose]

low

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[robust rose]

low

ta..

per..

[hexed forge]

no..

[robust rose]

fade👹

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[robust rose]

noones gonna react to the 2 year old answer

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-any-haircut-recommendations-low-taper-fade-you-know-what-else-is-massive-gif-3708438262570242561

[hexed forge]

unless

[lofty swallow]

I need someone to make a funny isle lore gif

[rich blaze]

is primal carnage and the isle actually in the same verse?

[lethal moat]

Not anymore

[rich blaze]

did evrima retconn those theories?

[lethal moat]

They stopped their work with primal carnage, yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, Don doesn't want it to be connected anymore
poof

Isle is it's own thing now

[hexed forge]

yup

[icy onyx]

yep

[lofty summit]

is primal carnage still alive as a game

[valid geyser]

Extinction is usually only 1-3 servers full at a time, but this is discussion about isle lore not primal carnage

[lofty summit]

oh i thought it got shut down and stuff and sry

[valid geyser]

I dunno about the original, but nah it’s still being updated and what not

Also all good, it was somewhat relevant considering lore used to be connected

[fleet hill]

humanoid dinosaurs biulded a isle with dino park and something detroyed everyone, so the dinosaurs stayed alive and ll evolve to humanoid again and again in a loop, and the isle is connected with ark survival so humans out of the isle, and traveled to ark survival world with some modified dinosaurs, to return to the isle when the dinosaurs became humanoid again.

👴

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-gumichan-bird-no-laughing-gif-5128531988218293677

[river marsh]

Im going to point out the channel description. Shitposting will get you banned.

[hexed forge]

Ark does not connect to The Isle

[hallow ruin]

the ark lore

[fleet hill]

And why do you think it's a shitpost? Just because I'm new to the server? I created this theory and sent it in the chat in a serious way.

[knotty locust]

do you want a serious answer or a silly answer

[fleet hill]

serious.

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-edge-runner-edge-runners-cyberpunk-edgerunner-cyberpunk2077-gif-27635553

[knotty locust]

because nothing you said made sense whatsoever, ARK cannot feasibly have any connection to the isle because it’s owned by an entirely different developer company, and it seems genuinely like just throwing random words together

[snow jasper]

primal carnage…

[fleet hill]

That's my theory.

[snow jasper]

Its a little short of a lot of prexisting sources at hand

They‘re not in the lorecord

[river marsh]

There is no reference to "humanoid dinosaurs" in the Isle at all in any videos made by players nor in the trailers. Nor a park by players or by devs. You also refer to living again and again in a loop which is extremely old lore so I honestly doubt you are that new (mine looks new because i left the discord to take a break so its not hard to literally just leave and rejoin to change your date). Then jumping to an entirely different and unrelated patent. Plus the emoji at the end does not help in making it seem a legitimate theory.

[knotty locust]

there IS some mention of a “safari/hunting lodge” so there’s that

[river marsh]

Where from?

Cuz ive never heard of that and all physical assets ive seen have been military or research related but i was also gone for a while

[knotty locust]

I believe dondi drew an MS paint idea of a location with a big wall separating one part of the island from the other, and had “little hunter guys running around” with a safari or hunting lodge of some kind

@lethal moat or @acoustic osprey would have the image itself

[river marsh]

Okay. That is possible, though i wouldnt call it a park. So how do "humanoid dinosaurs" and ARK tie into it?

[knotty locust]

they don’t lmao

[river marsh]

Exactly lol

[knotty locust]

unless you consider gen 1s to be humanoid dinosaurs, but I don’t

[river marsh]

I dont either tbh. They dont even look remotely saurian either tbh

Im honestly more curious how the Replicator ended up getting so powerful

[fleet hill]

I love make plps cry about dinosaur games 🤓

And I didn't say I'm talking about anyone on this server...

[valid geyser]

if this is your definition of cry, it’s a poor definition

[median shuttle]

Man I would love to talk with Dondi one day about the geology/geography of gateway... I'd also love to make an entire video on it but I think I'll be waiting till the map is more finished

[lethal moat]

I feel like it was designed that way

[river marsh]

His little stumpy legs 😂 ty tho that def must have been while i was out

[pseudo fable]

Not far off.

[lethal moat]

Oh really? Are we going to be hearing about more map stuff soon?

[pseudo fable]

I meant the paintjob of the Reserve.

[lethal moat]

Ah, I see, you made it, so that makes sense, even if some things have changed

The doodles are always fun to see lol

[pseudo fable]

Well, lore nerds.

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

My first task of 2025 was an official lore document. Timeline, glossary and definitions, etc.

29 pages so far. Not done. I would like to chew concrete.

https://tenor.com/bYQDL.gif

[median shuttle]

hey Don, okay if I pick your brain about Gateways geology/geography?

[lethal moat]

God damn! Concrete tastes best baked in an oven, I’m sure it’s going to be great though

[median shuttle]

I suggest chewing on calcite, it's less hard and is the main ingridient of concrete

[lethal moat]

Is 29 pages a pretty standard amount or is it just monstrous?

[valid geyser]

Something tells me, that it’s gonna be far bigger than 29 pages

Chewing concrete doesn’t seem like a “I’m almost done” situation

[sacred spear]

when you start chasing a hypsi

[hexed forge]

I wish you good luck. 🫡

[pseudo fable]

I guess standard?

[lethal moat]

I figured as much, given how you talk about the sheer amount of notes you have

[hexed forge]

"The Experiment:"

[pseudo fable]

Subtitle of the Meyer Curve, so it has to do with that.

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmmmm, I see

F&V is another Rival company/organization?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/qPV8osLRdV9.gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-analysis-kowalski-kowalski-crayon-gif-25673360

[hexed forge]

Time to update the lore doc.

[lethal moat]

I’ll do it once I’m out of bed

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-work-dwight-the-office-gif-27590524

[lethal moat]

The only other thing I want to safely guess from this is that lineage displacement does not mean kidnapping family

[hexed forge]

Imagine.

[lethal moat]

Which I had already guessed, but that doesn’t really bring us closer to whatever that is

[sonic rampart]

My guess would be ensuring your stock doesn't continue to increase

Bad genes? Cordon off you and all your relatives so you can't spread 'em around

[hallow ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-gif-45717262900370419

[hallow ruin]

me tryna snatch that lore
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1325037144300851240/200.gif

[median shuttle]

Gateway obviously is a volcanic island . But I'm still not sure about all the processes that shaped Gateway into what it is today...

[sonic rampart]

And my other assumption is that it's for the dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

We also know lineage displacement is used as a sort of punishment

[sonic rampart]

Ahhhhhhhh almost forgot about that

[lethal moat]

Well and Meyer may be significant human characters, as scientists, or something completely different, not too much to get from that, but I’ll take it

[median shuttle]

Is the "Meyer-curve" in any way related to the kaplan-meier survival analysis curve?

[lethal moat]

I definitely know what that is, but for those that don’t, could you explain

[hexed forge]

(I have no idea what that is)

[hallow ruin]

(i have no idea what cuased this explosion in information)

[sonic rampart]

TL;DR some animals have mass die-offs early in life (species that have TONS of babies without many living) and others have mass die-offs later in life (dying of age)

Others of course lie in the median

[lethal moat]

Rex is going to be the baby sea turtle of dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

Ah, thanks

Lots of new lore terms to write down on the document

[lethal moat]

It’s too cold to get out of bed, I’ll do it in a minute

[median shuttle]

The Kaplan-Meier curve is commonly used to analyze time-to-event data, such as the time until death or the time until a specific event occurs. For this, the Kaplan Meier curve graphically represent the survival rate or survival function. Time is plotted on the x-axis and the survival rate is plotted on the y-axis. (This is copied definition cause I'm looking not really that knowledgeable in that specific topic, just sth I heard of before)

[hexed forge]

Yet it wasnt too cold to play in the snow at 3 AM

[lethal moat]

In my defense, I was feeling silly

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

I had a great time though, and it’s still snowing, so work is going to be very dead later

[hexed forge]

Its still snowing for me too,

Im about to leave to go snowboarding.

[median shuttle]

I had a snowball fight outside of a bar on saturday at around4-5 am. Never too cold/late to play in the snow

[lethal moat]

Nice!

And it was an excuse to wear my new coat, even if people didn’t see me

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/macklemore-thrift-shop-fabulous-fab-coat-gif-3580049

[lethal moat]

And I only slipped and fell once while building Jerome

[hexed forge]

By the looks of it there are 4 or 5 Non-AE factions.
We know the names if atleast 3. (Acronyms)

RF
EC
F&V

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[pseudo fable]

RF is now OTC.

EC is now F&V.

And of course, EF which you have not been informed of.

[lethal moat]

Interesting, are these factions comparable to AE or Apollo, or are they attempting to punch up?

[pseudo fable]

They were swinging at an even level. AE grew; they did not. Punching up now.

[patent ginkgo]

Oh my, lore

We can work with this

[hexed forge]

Ohhh, interesting

[hexed forge]

I'm sure they will, most definitely, enjoy the gen1 attacks.

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-place-monster-alien-gif-22491042

[lethal moat]

And then the poor F&V employee stared down a massive industrial powerhouse that said “Skill issue” and Amelia Earhart’s him

[muted reef]

So...this is some pretty big stuff then

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

[muted reef]

Perhaps? Thats a timeline we're getting that is huge

[hexed forge]

I mean

I don't think it's the entire timeline

[muted reef]

It's still a timeline

[lethal moat]

Lore doc should be up to date 👍

[hexed forge]

I'll check it out

[hexed forge]

Did you mention "The Experiment"

I may be blind but I cant see it

[lethal moat]

That's so incredibly vague and also under the Meyer Curve, so I'm not bothering with it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pipsqueak-lorax-pipsqueak-lorax-lorax-2012-gif-2015085645182365450

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

Could do something similar to here.

-Meyer Curve
-The Experiment

I just think it might be important since its The Experiment.

And not just, an experiment.

[lethal moat]

Or it's just whatever the Meyer Curve is, and "the experiment" is just the procedure

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-bob-esponja-gif-25089940

[lethal moat]

I'll put it under Meyer Curve

[hexed forge]

yay

[pseudo fable]

It very much is the timeline.

Internal documentation purposes currently and then to be released as a guideline.

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah!

[muted reef]

Lets go

This is all I wanted lore wise for so long

[lethal moat]

2025 for big lore year

[hexed forge]

Oh, I doubted the fact that its the entire timeline because I didn't know how gen2 would fit into that. Especially with the information that we got yesterday.

[muted reef]

Leave the small details give me a nice simple timeline baby!

[hexed forge]

More lorehunts

I hope

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/rQihY0e0G63.gif

[muted reef]

Buildings

[pseudo fable]

@south hull Is it a simple timeline?

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-emoji-sad-emoji-emoji-stare-disgust-gif-405076546600269050

[hexed forge]

Hopefully not a simple timeline

[muted reef]

I'll take either of them tbh timeline is a timeline

[pseudo fable]

SO basically I spent time inventing agricultural applications of the virus for no good damned reason.

People wanted a simple timeline.

https://tenor.com/bbA4l.gif

[muted reef]

Timeline is epic

Regardless of its depth

[hexed forge]

I want it to be super indepth,
And to leave spots for the community to fill in in their fanmade projects.

Just an opinion tho

[lethal moat]

I'll take pretty much anything, but more is almost certainly better

[hexed forge]

^

[muted reef]

A bunch of lore for the games nearly 10th year of existence is fitting

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bh4rA.gif

[hexed forge]

Oh wait the virus being that halloween event thing?

NHJ

[lethal moat]

Viruses are extremely useful, and can do a variety of things

I would not be surprised in the slighted if there are a plethora of viruses used by AE

[hexed forge]

Yes true, there are probably a whole bunch of viruses made by AE.
But I thought that he was talking about when he was writing stuff for the Halloween event.

Probably not I guess.

[muted reef]

Maybe, maybe not

[lethal moat]

The only real way I can see a zombie virus benefitting agriculture is for filling soil with nitrogen

[muted reef]

Decomposing stuff is good for soil is it not?

[hexed forge]

Potentially

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/liquid-nitrogen-liquid-nitrogen-cool-as-ice-cool-as-ice-incredibox-mod-cool-as-ice-incredibox-gif-201535637426473822

[muted reef]

I wonder if any of these viruses are contractible

[lethal moat]

I can picture the moment a virus the scientist thought was stable jumps species and infects a human with disasterous consequences

[muted reef]

Sounds like a certain video game

[lethal moat]

Sounds like a real life scenario

[muted reef]

Yes...but also a certain video game

[muted reef]

Actually sounds like Covid ngl

Sounds like a lot of things

[lethal moat]

Where do you think "bird flu" and "swine flu" got their names?

[hexed forge]

Sounds like something similar that happened 5 years ago-

[muted reef]

Sounds like The Last of Us!

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[lethal moat]

I still need to finish that game

[muted reef]

Same

Too stuck on ragnarok

[lethal moat]

I stopped when bill hung me upside down by my ankles

[hexed forge]

Elden Ring..

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-27224532

[hexed forge]

Still stuck on Margit?

[muted reef]

Nah just restarted, got my torrent, never played again

[hexed forge]

[muted reef]

I wonder if highlands dome is going to stay the way it is or be removed

[river marsh]

Meanwhile im over here playing Potion Craft and Against the Storm 😭 i have such diff tastes in games from you guys unless its the Isle dang

[hexed forge]

I never even heard of those games

[lethal moat]

Lets move this over to lorecord

[low scarab]

have we ruled out strains being viruses of some kind?

[lethal moat]

Nope

[median shuttle]

I think that could be very well the case since viruses do come in strains, so maybe it's 1 virus and Hyperendocrine, Neurotenic & Tissoplastic are all Strains of that Virus, just how omnikron was for covid

[fast forge]

I like Potion Craft

[river marsh]

❤️ And Strains being based off or utilizing viruses in some way would make sense actually. Dont they alter your cells?

[fast forge]

Retroviruses are currently the best method for genome editing in live animals (not embryos)

[river marsh]

Interestingggg hmmm

[fast forge]

We also know from the dibble vid that AE uses CRISPR technology

[acoustic osprey]

damn, was sleeping right through it lol

[acoustic osprey]

same
was gonna mention the TV show's intro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teuRjx7s_8k

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-toilet-scene-hank-revealing-gif-18042867

this is interesting though
I wonder how it'll be 'released'?

[muted reef]

Would be cool if you could activate a computer as human and it showed up

But doubtful

I feel like a lore hunt could be it

[median shuttle]

I think it's gonna be a puzzle consisting of several files, both digital and analog, that you can gather as gen 2.

[muted reef]

What if theres one huge lore hunt throughout the year that gathers all of it

[hexed forge]

Throughout the year- so basically- just getting more and more lore content each update lol

[muted reef]

One hunt that pieces a tiny puzzle, branching into another one

repeat

[acoustic osprey]

would love this and much more prefer this

make us work for our money!

[muted reef]

Assuming humans are this in depth by that point

[acoustic osprey]

likely not now
unless what Kissen said was true and that they've been keeping it low profile

[median shuttle]

idk, I'd like it to not be announced with a hunt, but truly discovered through diagetic gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

i.e. that humans were to start development after the dibble update

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
given clues like through subtle messaging from Don here, Lore videos, pure imagination, etc

[median shuttle]

I think humans were in development before that but just generally lower priority

iirc

[muted reef]

I feel like they've been being developed for quite a while but only on the backburner

[acoustic osprey]

oh of course
given that they had models made earlier than that
but i am referring to an actual message where Humans were to "start" on production
not on very early production/pre-production

[median shuttle]

honestly I hope the next hordetests will include more human stuff (like guts for example) and maybe the ui stuff and

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[hexed forge]

I agree

[muted reef]

I need the UI

[low scarab]

this was my thought with that theory

[river marsh]

Very solid idea ngl

[hexed forge]

Soon..

[hexed forge]

Would be funny if they just surprise release humans fully finished

But I doubt so

[acoustic osprey]

ha... yeah 😔

[low scarab]

Ui lore

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[median shuttle]

have we considered africa as a potential spot for gateway

theres lots of islands of both the east and west african coast, and the climate sorta checks out if it's located along the subsaharan coast

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[snow jasper]

if it was african and sub saharan that limits the range drastically

[muted reef]

Could the volcano give insight to the location?

[lethal moat]

There are areas with more than others, but not really

[muted reef]

So we can probably guess it's near/south of the equator?

[lethal moat]

I'd say that's more given away by the weather

[muted reef]

It's definitely not a north region

I also doubt it's near north america

Yeah I'd say South America or Southeast asia

[lethal moat]

Pacific and Indian Ocean is my vague guess

[muted reef]

Yeah

Also is it even a volcano anymore or just a mountain

[lethal moat]

I want to guess it's still a volcano

[muted reef]

Would be nice if it was properly given lava and ash

[lethal moat]

I disagree, I'd rather the caldera be more fleshed out

[muted reef]

How so

I mean regardless it being more fleshed out will be great

[lethal moat]

A pit, rather than a cave, unless that cave was artificially created

[muted reef]

Hang on I'm stupid

Why would AE build on an island with an active volcano

Scratch that, it's probably dormant

[lethal moat]

Geothermal energy is my guess, in addition to it being either dormant or extinct

[hexed forge]

It's probably dormant imo.

I doubt extinct for some reason, a gut feeling.

[muted reef]

Maybe theres some like stuff up there that hurts your lungs...don't know

[hexed forge]

There's some "smoke" coming out of the volcano still.

[lethal moat]

Silica

[hexed forge]

Or whatever it's called, I'm not educated on that

[muted reef]

Staying there a while is probably unwise

[hexed forge]

Definitely

[muted reef]

Could be a mechanic in the future perchance?

[hexed forge]

For the immersive aspect, probably

[muted reef]

Lung infection? Overtime damage? Overtime loss of oxygen? Hm

Ultra powerful monster gastroliths!?

Drains all your food in one foul swoop

[lethal moat]

Internal bleeding isn't bad, because that's where the blood is supposed to be

[patent ginkgo]

Uh…

Sure…

[lethal moat]

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/christian-bale-american-psycho-walk-jam-gif-16732505

Speaking of...internal bleeding should be a feature in general

[patent ginkgo]

I think it’s more like water vapor condensing from the humid warm updraft produced by the geothermal heat/pond in the crater

[muted reef]

Imagine how nasty it would feel running around the island as a person

All sweaty, disgusting smell, corpses littered around, rotting buildings, bugs

[hexed forge]

Oh true

[patent ginkgo]

The mosquitoes

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-4191932622782612740

[hexed forge]

I hate mosquitos.

[muted reef]

I wonder if different clothing types will be required for different weather

[hexed forge]

Disgusting insects.

[hexed forge]

I hope so

[patent ginkgo]

I really hope Don makes it canon that in the isles universe mosquitoes have been eradicated. I don’t care about the ecological effects.

[muted reef]

Drought requires light clothing, heavy storm requires some raincoats, redwoods requires some average clothing stuff like that would be sick

Hope you can find armor

[hexed forge]

NOOO

[muted reef]

Genie in a bottle, delete mosquitoes, give me all knowledge of the isle lore...and go ahead and throw in kratos' power in there why not

[hexed forge]

I don't think armor is saving you tbh from most of the creatures on the island lol.

It's all in the stealth and agility imo

[muted reef]

Maybe save you from some sharper injuries

[hexed forge]

True

[muted reef]

Or from ballistics

Or knives

[hexed forge]

I'll be running around naked with insane weapons.

Elden Ring style

[muted reef]

Way to give out your smell to the island

Speaking of smells, does dragging bodies into bushes actually reduce the smell?

[patent ginkgo]

Humans stink no matter what you wear tbh

[hexed forge]

I am one with the mud

[muted reef]

They said this back in the U6 trailer

[patent ginkgo]

Never heard of that

[hexed forge]

No

[muted reef]

Do rotten corpses have further reach in smell?

[hexed forge]

Where

[muted reef]

I might be mixing this with that #isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Ah

[muted reef]

I did

I feel like they mentioned it once though

[hexed forge]

if the smell system would be that indepth

[muted reef]

Kissen sent a nose emoji after someone was talking about how stealthy humans were gonna be, and also she said you'd have to stay downwind or smth like that

#isle-discussion message

[patent ginkgo]

Makes sense. Like I said humans are kinda unreasonably smelly animals

[hexed forge]

Ah

Either way I'd still be running around mostly naked with little armor

One with the mud.

[lethal moat]

I would like to see speed move with how much weight you carry

[patent ginkgo]

Actually I think this bit is referencing irl

[muted reef]

#isle-discussion message

[muted reef]

Sweat

[patent ginkgo]

But the nose emoji is good 🙏

[patent ginkgo]

And clothes trapping scents

[muted reef]

Yep

Jolly are you still plant lore guy

[hexed forge]

Hope so

[patent ginkgo]

Pretty much yeah

Just haven’t had much to work with recently lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-carrying-too-much-gif-7550737

[hexed forge]

Ark:

[muted reef]

Carry a basilisk, sprint no problem...carry a shotgun and you are gonna be a little slower...be doom level of decked out and you are slow as a truck

[hexed forge]

I'd probably be carrying some scout equipment with a sniper and a pistol

[lethal moat]

I think it depends if I'm in a group or going solo

[patent ginkgo]

Group allows more specialization yeah

[muted reef]

I'd be carrying a shotgun, a basilisk, and some necessary clothing items if I'm solo. If I'm in a group...goodbye sprinting

[lethal moat]

If I'm in a group, a backpack for every other person wouldn't seem excessive I don't think

[muted reef]

Also how much time do ya'll think finding an entire gun kit will take? Bullets mags and all

[lethal moat]

Not a clue

[patent ginkgo]

I don’t really have any guess to that

Depends entirely on testing and dev vision, both of which are not well known to us

[hexed forge]

5-10 minutes in GUTS

[lethal moat]

Absurdly low amount of time

[muted reef]

What

10 minutes and you can erase hours of work for another player?

[hexed forge]

GUTS was said to be basically a lootbox by punch tho

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yup-dale-doback-step-brothers-yes-i-agree-gif-1579811350903017250

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-punching-take-that-gif-20443294

[hexed forge]

At least a small caliber gun in those 10 minutes

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-knife-csgo-knife-open-case-gif-12873040886406208741

[hexed forge]

A pistol probably

[lethal moat]

I disagree

[muted reef]

Lootbox could be melee weapons

It could be clothes

[lethal moat]

Lootbox can be nothing

[muted reef]

It could be electronics

It could be survival items like food and water

So I doubt you're guaranteed a gun going down there

[hexed forge]

Let's be real for a second.

Why would there not be a gun in an average AE ranger locker room.

[lethal moat]

They took it with them when they were trying to escape?

[muted reef]

If they were swallowed up by a dinosaur?

I do wonder how that will work

[hexed forge]

All of it?

What did each guy take 3 guns? There's definitely extra guns left behind

[muted reef]

How will loot spawning and dinosaurs eating it work?

[lethal moat]

Buried in the mud somewhere and rusted beyond recognition, this is merely a hypothetical because guns should be difficult, not something you ever toss away because you have too many

[muted reef]

It's not exactly a military unit. They've probably got guns when need be but not guns in every foot of the tunnels

[muted reef]

Maybe they poop em out

Or yak em up

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

how do you think it ends up in the mud

[hexed forge]

It is a dinosaur infested island after all.

[muted reef]

oh

[muted reef]

Haven't they mentioned waste being a mechanic in the future

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[muted reef]

Wonder how those animations are gonna turn out

[hexed forge]

Or they could go the route without animations and make it like ark, appears into existence.

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ew-no-no-ew-gif-2451017436430959070

[willow sierra]

Well a little on this that i noticed- every food available to the dinos (except mana, health & spirit bushes) are all food we humans actively eat/can eat. Most are either so nondescript we forget (coconut) or they are vague and pass as rare plants (fireweed & horned melon)

So I'm not saying dino eating is out- but humans will definitely be stealing salads from the herbis

[muted reef]

I was talking about dinosaurs eating guns and clothes off human corpses but this is true

I think food packets will exist too

[willow sierra]

Oh mb i didnt go up enough

[muted reef]

Np

[willow sierra]

Oh for sure

Mre's and the like

I would love it if the humans had a similar survival vibe to humans in scum

If maybe a little less convoluted

[muted reef]

Looks like rust, dayz, and the forest all mixed together lmao

[willow sierra]

😂 yea basically

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/de-nada-bingo-guiño-gif-23610586

[hallow ruin]

man if we only an get info on humans development

i dont know why they make it so mysterious

is it like, its containing too much lore?...

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[fleet hill]

the humanoids wll return...

[median shuttle]

idk, it's very likely a hotspot volcano, those can appear anywhere due to temperature anomalies in the earth's upper mantle

when I have some more time and more knowledge from uni I will do a video that will analyse the geography and geology of gateway and I might try to utilise the skybox and geological guesswork to triangulate gateways position

[patent ginkgo]

Haha, saw that failed ping

[low scarab]

It’s probably just because so many people want humans to be added and it’s just not top priority and if they bring it up they will lose their minds abt it

[low scarab]

Yea I want to hear abt the gen 1

[patent ginkgo]

Time to begin grilling Kissen for lore now

[hexed forge]

Oh nice

[obtuse sandal]

Ark but with player controlled dinos. Oh man that sounds cool having a small group of humans leading warpacks of human dinos… except for the megaclan thing.

[low scarab]

Kissen is now documented as another lore god

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-why-why-are-we-still-here-just-to-suffer-gif-17485467

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-the-isle-evrima-mixpackers-mixpacking-gif-25073772

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-evrima-kaperoo-beasts-of-bermuda-coyote-gif-26397945

[ornate comet]

anything interesting in the stream?

[hexed forge]

Think it was just Amarok working on AI. Thats it

[median shuttle]

just amarok working on ai then refusing to go to bed until his herrera dies despite the chat's pleas for him to just go to bed

[ornate comet]

was he like

seeing how long he can live off ai or something?

[median shuttle]

nah, it began as him looking for ai and then turned into just playing until he died

[ornate comet]

Did he die lol

[median shuttle]

yeah at the end, like 30 seconds before the stream hit the 10 hour mark

[muted reef]

I wonder how far matpat would've gotten into solving this game

[ornate comet]

I often wonder what our moist meter will be

in the future

[median shuttle]

damn, thats a good question

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-short-scream-excited-moistcritical-gif-18689575

[muted reef]

Probably no further than us as of right now ngl

[hexed forge]

Right now probably not much

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-gilgun-gross-misfits-confused-disgust-gif-9467036

[ornate comet]

....you know....when we says a game is good or bad....penguinz0.......not whatever you think this means....

[hexed forge]

MoistCritical

"Moist meter" is how he rates games, shows, etc.

Nothing different than a 10 out of 10 scale, just a different name.

[snow jasper]

Zero penguinz

[acoustic osprey]

probably as far as we have
especially with our random 'let us look at this lore thing' topics we can have that gives us a bit more insight because we're focusing on it

the only thing different is that he'd likely try to make bigger theories

[muted reef]

And use more stuff outside of the game

Neither us or him would have enough lore to base off of

[hexed forge]

99% of the stuff we discuss is outside of the game.

[acoustic osprey]

kinda
we do still look at a lot of stuff outside of the game

like trying to match the skybox
trying to match the floral aspect of the game
etc

[muted reef]

He'd use 99.9999999999999999 stuff out of the game

[acoustic osprey]

the old radar in legacy had basically very interesting locations that were all nature reserves or parks

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[muted reef]

He once used some ancient egyptian or mexican history to try and connect it to minecraft

Once again I will bring back my question...which Isle...is THE ISLE?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/409493182255202304/Bestest.png?ex=677f0cbe&is=677dbb3e&hm=52b859baa5f5976e7e814b10bf04cdf60581263a5d6ee897d15a9e1a6fdd4015&

[muted reef]

Was it hinting at the location?

Where was V3

[acoustic osprey]

it was just interesting
none of these are/were islands

[hexed forge]

Standard AE Research Facilities. Maybe. Who knows.

[acoustic osprey]

heck, Don might not even remember

this might've been a Dinosauriac thing, iirc
he responded to a lot of UI 'lore' stuff in 2018

[fast forge]

what was the context given with this?

[lofty swallow]

whoops

meant to reply

[fast forge]

That's a weird map

Lots of fossil-bearing formations that contain dinosaurs

[wicked turret]

Pearl Harbor

[hexed forge]

Legacy serverlist screen.
There is this "radar" thing scanning dots/points on earth.

Someone mapped them all

[wicked turret]

Nuke options

[fast forge]

Like the Hell Creek formation is quite famous for having a lot of dinosaurs

Bahariya is where spino is from iirc

Some of them aren't quite right, like the two dinosaur formations in the center of north america are slightly east of their actual location

This one down in south america is relatively close to where herrerasaurus was found, but if the american fossil sites were off-center then maybe this one is too

[fast forge]

So this image was made by a fan, using the data from the serverlist screen?

[hexed forge]

Yes

The names of the formations are not listed on the serverlist screen. That was added on

[fast forge]

I'm struggling to understand what parts are original by the fan, and what is (legacy) official

So the image on the serverlist was a map, with dots?

And a fan made this version?

Or the serverlist had a series of coordinates, and someone turned it into a map?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/radar-love-search-gif-20027720

This, the background was earth.

[fast forge]

Okay, ty

Well it just seems to be locations where dinosaurs have been found

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibb2vh1S0Ho Random video I found as an example

What species were found in Greenland

[fast forge]

No idea

[hexed forge]

I just think its AE facilities across the world, excluding the islands that they are keeping secret.

[fast forge]

oh, only one, something called Issi saaneq

[hexed forge]

However the correlation with the AE facilities being somewhat close to formations is probably true.

imo

[fast forge]

I think it's a mixed bag, some are fossil sites and some are just important locations, like Washington DC

[hexed forge]

This is not Washington DC

Close to it tho.

[fast forge]

that map is not accurate, and the original is blurry
Look at that video, can you say it's not on DC?

[hexed forge]

However it could be on the original

[fast forge]

yes

[hexed forge]

I wouldnt say 100%

[fast forge]

at the very least, DC is by far the most important thing in that area

[hexed forge]

Since I feel like then there will be sites marked in other countries too

[fast forge]

One of the dots is close to the Ischigualasto formation, where herrerasaurus was found
Another in egypt, where spino can be found

[hexed forge]

I meant as in cities

[fast forge]

yeah idk

Even DC has some fossils

[acoustic osprey]

the original map on legacy is stretched

[fast forge]

yeah I figured

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1045435424476246027/image.png?ex=677edf9c&is=677d8e1c&hm=5685a8ec1aff3883d60d854c653fc10d161463ef164e96b2914c1b9a4bc52b59&

[ornate comet]

semi unrelated but jurrasic east coast united states has a extremely small fossil record if I remember correctly

huge gap in what we know about a specific time period in the jurrasic over there

[hallow ruin]

isnt hyping ppl with humans better than with dinos? isnt it gonna bring more people

why hype with dinos but not with a whole new genre we're getting in, isnt this cooler/would suck in more people?

[lethal moat]

Some people don't want humans, most currently hear are just here for the dinos, really depends on the person

[hallow ruin]

yeah but whats the issue of talking abt humans

u mean it would make more people to have negative yaps debates and talks about humans so devs are just silent knowing they'll do it well instead of ppl assuming the worst and ruining the vibes here?

that would actually make sense, but idk i think just teasing a bit of humans will be good enough but wont worry ppl who dont like it

[lethal moat]

I would love more human stuff

[ornate comet]

theres also most likely gonna be "No human" servers

so people dont HAVE to deal with them if they dont wanna

[icy onyx]

Eww

[acoustic osprey]

Basically almost are right more anyways

[ornate comet]

went out of my way to find a version with it blurred lol

[deep cairn]

Thank you for bluring that word out BenTheBot15.

[hallow ruin]

i think its just the F word

but yeah that wont be tolerated here

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-and-i-love-you-random-citizen-movies-disney-gif-15389605

[eager marlin]

I feel humans would be fun for players who want a horror experience. The only thing humans got on other species is our tech. And even then it’s still not that big of an advantage at night or in a dense area of foliage.

[hallow ruin]

OH ITS HIM ITS CAPTIN JOHNCAKE !! 🫡

[eager marlin]

“There in the tree line! Call in an air strike!!!”

[eager marlin]

Yup

[hallow ruin]

what if
https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-jurassic-world-jurassic-world-dominion-dominion-quetz-gif-24875496

[acoustic osprey]

i'm gonna be honest with you
same

[acoustic osprey]

this is basically what happens right now anyways

[maiden falcon]

Oh my god they’re at my city

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[hallow ruin]

ah good egypt is far enough

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[low scarab]

I mean I don’t support the idea either I’m just trying to find reasons why they might do that but imo I don’t think the isle needs popularity atm

[hallow ruin]

official release is probably soon, 90% in 2025 imo
why doesnt it need poularityy now

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gayloranti-monkey-fat-scratching-head-looks-at-hand-gif-8485782382015281375

[hallow ruin]

oh

[low scarab]

I mean I would encourage the devs polish the game up a little more nail a couple of the more serious bugs complete the gameplay loop w elders and then release humans

Don’t get me wrong I won’t complain if humans are added I just am worried people will play the game get upset from lack of polish or something and just quit the game in mass

[hallow ruin]

ah yeah i see... yup true

but what will they do for the 10years of this games life

[low scarab]

Wdym? The game still has a lot ahead of it like gen 1 strains mutation expansion etc etc

[hallow ruin]

ik ik
im saying ur correct, which means the game surely wont release this year cuz these stuff wont be finished this fast
but im just saying, what will their celebration be

[low scarab]

Right ok but I’m not sure wym by celebration

[hallow ruin]

10 years anniversary?

[acoustic osprey]

probably rex

although, I'd assume Rex would be closer than dec this year

so Gen2 could be... potentially
but, honestly, I see the devs adhering it towards Dinos

...it could be Allo...

as nice as it would be for 'complete' Gen2s (proper release of them, that is) by this year

[hallow ruin]

how can u tell that?

[hallow ruin]

i dont think allo is big enough, rex isnt too, its just a playable release yk
Gen2 is gonna be perfect fit, tho how can u tell they are this close, they are so barely talked about

[coarse sequoia]

i think yes mhm

[low scarab]

Is that this year?!?!

[hallow ruin]

this year's december

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/nostalgia-gif-25718847

[low scarab]

I would guess elders

[acoustic osprey]

Rex is literally THE dinosaur

[low scarab]

Completing the gameplay loop would be their 10 year celebration

[hallow ruin]

still

[hallow ruin]

makes sense too

[hallow ruin]

i know right.
just fyi, this is the first time i hit 10 years on record for something in my life

wait no school is more than 10 years, but who cares about school

[river marsh]

10 year anniversary would be cool to unlock something like an exclusive pattern that some players could unlock on spawn in. Could still give it to others by nesting but only the people who had an account at the time could select it on normal spawn.

[hallow ruin]

oh that works on more rare spowning games
average isle player would spown 10 times in 10 min tryina grow

[low scarab]

Fr

[low scarab]

I like this idea

[hexed forge]

Spiro rework for the 10 year anniversary

[low scarab]

I would love that

[hallow ruin]

meh no one likes spiro

wait i do like its grasslands but meh still

[lethal moat]

Some bits were alright, I liked the coast and the ravines

[hallow ruin]

yup

[hexed forge]

I would still like to see how it looks like, IF, the Don message was legit lol

[hallow ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-paw-paw-monkey-gif-17535679

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-garn47-car-garn-gif-8690760083677225756

if GUTS comes out this year
for 10th anniversary
we should recreate this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alp6AiSFuhI

[low scarab]

I would be down to pitch in

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/cPmByU4IZH4.gif

[lethal moat]

Sounds fun, especially if we get Austroraptor sometime this year, we could use that too

[low scarab]

He appears

[low scarab]

For sure

[lethal moat]

If humans still aren't super fleshed out, we might be able to change some little things to make guns look more realistic

We could recreate it with new noises instead, if we could find the music

[acoustic osprey]

If not
I think omni or troodon are fine replacements

[lethal moat]

Omni will definately work

[hexed forge]

Yeahh

Guns tho..

[lofty swallow]

Troodon would be more Isle branded though to be fair

not sure if branded's the right word, just more unique

[acoustic osprey]

yeah i should've said also
and if Humans are more complete

but we do have revolvers

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257740793100238959/1297031567851655198/4x.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gayloranti-monkey-fat-scratching-head-looks-at-hand-gif-8485782382015281375

[icy onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278314400733728849/1278477529199673477/IMG_2320.gif

[acoustic osprey]

sounds good

this'll probably be mid-year though, if GUTS comes by then that is...

(mid-year because holidays)

[deep cairn]

Awsome!

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dog-cutie-animal-lover-gif-23043263

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-yes-excited-energetic-hype-yes-gif-15216469

[acoustic osprey]

interesting to see the HT branch updated and now is locked back again

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Im guessing that its just the changes that were mentioned in the devblog tho.

[lethal moat]

I think they just kidnapped the hordetesting servers back

[hexed forge]

Nesting zones, Spawn codes, etc.

[acoustic osprey]

replay effects...

[hexed forge]

Oh probably

[acoustic osprey]

but why a branch update though? I don't remember them doing that for updates on the branch

[hexed forge]

hahaha...ha..

[acoustic osprey]

but, seeing as the QA Shipping HT branches were updated
we might be getting what you said, Cerato

[hexed forge]

Yup

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo... hopefully replay effects as well

[hexed forge]

Maybe GUTS? We could only hope

[acoustic osprey]

they were bundled in the same dblog text you're referring to Cerato

[acoustic osprey]

yeah... one could hope

[hexed forge]

GUTS or replay effects

[acoustic osprey]

replay effects

[hexed forge]

Ah yeah

[lethal moat]

Bodycam option would be sick

[lofty swallow]

How will GUTS work? is there just a tunnel in the side of a mountain and you follow it into a laboratory?

[acoustic osprey]

especially since that one that was on HT by accident did not fit the "CCTV" vibe
definitely feels like a bodycam

[hexed forge]

Definitely

[lethal moat]

I consider it a sort of highway

[acoustic osprey]

think of it as a labyrinth of sorts

transport 'highways'
with included underground areas
i.e. the GUTS HUB we saw

i have a feeling they'll drop the HT during my shift today

if it does come out today, do drop anything ya see there here

[lofty swallow]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[lofty swallow]

Will do, one can always hope for ben

[hexed forge]

Doubt its dropping today, but we'll see.

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
but both QA branches updates, plus HT
so they must be getting ready real soon

[lofty swallow]

unrelated but out of the guns gen2s will have access to, what are some you guys are hoping for / excited to see?

[hexed forge]

Any type of sniper rifle.

[lofty swallow]

yup yup, I'm just really excited to see how they make the guns feel, hope they have a good feel to shoot, as well as sounds, but just for guns themselves, I'm excited for handguns in general

having to find attachments like suppressors and laser sights for your pistol would be awesome

[fast forge]

I'm legit excited for this stuff

[hexed forge]

Spawn codes mainly so I can finally spawn in with friends.

[fast forge]

nesting gives you your own patrol zone, guaranteed diet?
any actual incentive for adult animals to nest?

[hexed forge]

I dont think it gives people an actual incentive to nest.
Knowing the community most will abuse it to spawn a zone on command for free diets

But its still neat

[fast forge]

At the very least it makes nesting a little easier if that's your goal
And I dunno if the community will abuse them, especially if nesting zones are far from common hotspot areas

[acoustic osprey]

that, innately, incentives nesting

to an extent

[fast forge]

honestly if we had nesting-exclusing mutations or something like that, people would do it all the time

or just some real incentive to do it

[hexed forge]

Well they wont actually nest tbf, it depends on how you activate the zone, do you just have to make a nest? Just court? or do you actually need to hatch some players in.

Im betting just making a nest, which would be pretty easy for certain playables, most herbivores that always need diets make the dirt/mud nests

[fast forge]

Still, that doesn't sound like an easy exploit

[hexed forge]

We still never got clarification whether its nesting grounds or just patrol zones that spawn around you when you nest

[fast forge]

Many many players play solo anyways

[fast forge]

I thought it was clarified that it was patrol zones that are unique to and associated with nesting sites

but I don't remember when that was said

[hexed forge]

Never heard the nesting site part

[fast forge]

that was just my takeaway

[hexed forge]

I think it was in a devblog, maybe

[hexed forge]

Yeah Im mainly referring to the community that are the PVP sweats.
Most of them have their little friend groups, if not even full blown cults

[fast forge]

well then who really cares? they are on par with mixpackers, who are already exploiting

[hexed forge]

Those are the kind, that would abuse it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-wilson-gregory-house-robert-sean-leonard-hugh-laurie-dr-house-gif-25067979

[fast forge]

I'm not too worried, and the chance of people exploiting it is far outweighed by the benefits and the increase in legitimate nesting, imo

[river marsh]

Honestly the dino AI being tinkered with has me hopeful that there is potential for a solo player to make their own group to defend themselves in the future. But thats me being very ambitious and optimistic with a frequently volatile game asset lol

As for guns: you cant tell me people wont hoard shotguns and ammo like its gold for dealing with small predators lol

[river marsh]

LOL

[lethal moat]

Any sort of hoard would be an immediate target

[hexed forge]

My main goal with Gen2 is to set up a small camp at the corner of the map and just collect as much items/weapons as possible.

https://tenor.com/view/meme-collection-robot-gif-12434608

[lethal moat]

I just had a thought that I could have sworn I've expressed before, but maybe not, a comparison if you would about how a profile might loose itself slowly, then all at once, like someone from cyberpunk going cyberpsycho

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-reference-i-dont-understand-gif-25250966

So basically, the EIP becoming less human?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-adam-smasher-cyberpunk-cyberpunk2077-2077-gif-26854690

[lethal moat]

Yes, but with the caveat that some people can take more than others, and that it isn't progressive, but exponential, which also matches up with what I think of EIPs

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm, maybe

[lethal moat]

I enjoyed Cyberpunk Edgerunners, when you're old enough, would recommend

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-america-i-understood-that-reference-look-back-gif-14556485

[acoustic osprey]

basically what was inferred with Gen1s in Legacy

which is cool
need to keep that for evrima

[eager marlin]

I want a revolver like the one they had when they were being tested. Also a spas with slugs. But depending on how they add the humans I'd make ammo and or the SPAS rare. If you have to buy it from somewhere I'd also make it expensive. A rifle would be nice too but it may be ineffective due to the dense foliage.

[snow jasper]

There was Gun talk and I wasn't pinged
How rude

[sharp agate]

@snow jasper pew pew

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/crow-gif-21382599

[sharp agate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1194686206747873300/1326835423875436606/2025-01-09_03-19-03-ezgif.com-cut.gif

[snow jasper]

wah oh

[lofty swallow]

Yeah I'm excited for rifles not particulary just for dinosaurs, but for gen2s, I want to be a bandit in the isle

[eager marlin]

As much as I would love a day Z with player Dino’s I feel like the human players unlike in day Z would actually have to work together because the threat is 5x more deadly than those zombies.

[river marsh]

Thats true lmao

Im ngl as long as humans dont mess with me im prog gonna ignore em on my theri im going to have other problems to watch for and theyre not worth the noise and hp loss. Would just draw in an apex

[lethal moat]

Imagine if you hear a prolonged gunfight in a GUTS tunnel

[river marsh]

I wonder if the dinos will be able to unlock lore snippets as well as humans

If anyones wasting that much ammo a rex prob got in ngl

Or trike. Prob trike

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-light-saber-gif-7901003

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-tomorrow-war-whitespike-gif-22391890

[lofty swallow]

darth vader or white spike who would win

[lethal moat]

Vader, no contest

[hexed forge]

Vader

[plush widget]

Ben or vader

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/vader-be-careful-not-to-choke-on-your-aspirations-rogue-one-darth-vader-darth-vader-rogue-one-gif-26097185

[hexed forge]

Im sorry but Ben is just vaporizing Vader.

[lethal moat]

Counter point, Vader is the chosen one

[hexed forge]

Counter Point, Minmi granted Ben protection

[icy onyx]

is this the matriarch

[plush widget]

Ben solos

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-tomorrow-war-gif-25184405

[plush widget]

Mid dif, only because he hasn't found the minmium sword yet.

[icy onyx]

hi new here

[plush widget]

I was here before you mortal

[icy onyx]

i was here since early 2020

[fast forge]

erm where is your green leaf then?

[icy onyx]

dilovs new here😌

[plush widget]

He is referring to me I think

I just got unbanned David

[icy onyx]

why were you banned lol

[plush widget]

Bypassing the automod

[icy onyx]

hmm

[lofty swallow]

counterpoint, Vader has a lightsaber

[hexed forge]

Minmi protection disregards Lightsaber

[lofty swallow]

Vader turns Minmi inside out via force

and then uses his lightsaber

[plush widget]

Minmi resurrects and duplicates itself

Swallows the lightsaber

[low scarab]

Someone needs to mod Ben into the game as a playable

[hallow ruin]

bro... this made me think...

[plush widget]

Didn't dondi say that he would make one of the developers put Ben in the game in some form lol

I think he said a picture of it

[hallow ruin]

ben became canon lore

we dont know how yet

[low scarab]

Js low quality floating in a test tube though

[plush widget]

Id be worried if it were to become anything else tbh

[hexed forge]

Heavily implied that hes going to be in a vat as an easter egg

[low scarab]

I always thought a Ben ai guarding human structures and to get to some lore or mutation or wtv you have to do some stealth thing to get passed him but yk I do go a bit outlandish with my gameplay ideas

[plush widget]

Vat?

[hallow ruin]

same

[hexed forge]

Vat Tank

[hallow ruin]

cloning vat

[plush widget]

Ahh

Any new lore findings?

About the guts or anything while I was gone

[hexed forge]

Not really no

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah nothing really yet

[fast forge]

Ben is the final guardian of Tartarus

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-you-shall-not-pass-not-pass-gandal-the-grey-gandalf-gif-7706023

[low scarab]

nah but I expect guts to come relatively soon and we should get some lore then

[plush widget]

Don't use the word soon

It fires me up lol, I don't know what it means anymore

[fast forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1311524633572282378/SoonTM.gif

[low scarab]

soon is far from get fired up i will say that lol

[coarse sequoia]

i thonk that were all being watched by a guy named tristan

[fast forge]

what, like a reverse version of The Truman Show?

[hexed forge]

Accidentally guesses the name of the CEO of AE

[coarse sequoia]

Yes

[dusk kraken]

Will there be humanoid like creatures on the isle? I saw a YT short with concept art about it, but I can't find it now.

[hexed forge]

Yes, Gen1.

[lament acorn]

What if the function of humans on the island is to exterminate and monitor the cannibals? Considering that they seem to be dangerous to any form of life

[hexed forge]

I dont think gen1 are on Gateway

[dusk kraken]

What's Gen1? I dont know much isle lore

[lethal moat]

Which island

[lethal moat]

They’re weapons

[dusk kraken]

ah this is the picture I saw

[grim mural]

make sure to put the crocs in sport mode for max speed

[rigid coral]

i simply do not agree with this sentiment

[rigid coral]

this is called a Generation One

a 'humanoid'-esque creature that will be coming to The Isle soon ™️

we do not know when this is though

[strong galleon]

any possibility of cave creatures making apprearence due to scientist of da isle releasing toxic on human stuck on isla

[lethal moat]

Sounds similar to the giant crab plot

[strong galleon]

not familiar will investigate further

[lethal moat]

Containment leak caused there to be massive crustaceans

[pseudo zodiac]

crusteans? of they crab variety?

[lethal moat]

🦀

[pseudo zodiac]

ok now i understeband

[ionic fog]

I have not been keeping up with this side of dev, this thing looks crazy! Look at those grippers, it will deff be able to climb trees

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

she's just like me 💅

[hexed forge]

[median shuttle]

so true girly, she ate.... specifically jimmy from accounting during a containment breach

[lethal moat]

RIP Jimmy

[lofty swallow]

missed opportunity to put The One Ring on it from the lord of the rings

[tired lodge]

Close enough?

[muted reef]

I wonder how deep guts are gonna go...gotta be deeper than the south tunnel right?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/projec-tartarus-gif-15717057886892281903

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xingxing-xing-xing-xing-macaquinha-macaca-gif-10399735014109140616

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-gif-19943178

[hexed forge]

wah oh

Who made this?

[lethal moat]

I just looked up tartarus in the gifs search

[hexed forge]

Wow

Fits so well

[muted reef]

Don't worry. Kratos will show up, wipe everything out, and climb up

[lethal moat]

Found the original source

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr5cpYVNnIY

[lethal moat]

Beat me to it

[hexed forge]

Oh.. roblox...

[acoustic osprey]

i remember hearing about this half or so a year ago

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-27224532

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWy4G4WvWM
this persons' roblox game

[muted reef]

Only good for shrimp game smh

[acoustic osprey]

i sent this video a few weeks or so ago on lorecord iirc

[muted reef]

That is one badass theme though

[hexed forge]

NOOOO

[lethal moat]

I could've sworn dondi said something about new music recently on stream correct?

[hexed forge]

Yes

He was playing one of the new music soundtracks in the beginning of the stream

[acoustic osprey]

(he has been for a year or two now tbf)

[lethal moat]

Damn, we didn't get the music, just the juvie rex clip in lorecord

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[muted reef]

Whoah

https://tenor.com/view/yellow-gold-amber-gif-26074042

[hexed forge]

Golden Rumple

[muted reef]

He's climbing the ranks

Till he gets to developer

[acoustic osprey]

wah oh

[hexed forge]

Got it

In fact, the entire stream.

Should I DM you the link?

Ooooho, rewatching it, the music sounds really nice

[acoustic osprey]

sadly, it'll be an mp3

[hexed forge]

Erm

[acoustic osprey]

where is my hi-fi and lossless WAV bounce of The Isle OST 😔

[snow jasper]

wth, rumple is yellow????

[lofty swallow]

he's always been yellow bro

[snow jasper]

yeah sure

grr

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/surrealism1924-erik-satie-francis-picabia-gif-20876595

[hexed forge]

Orange is next

[lofty swallow]

then red

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

then green (retired)

[hexed forge]

Nah,

Turns into the Olympus_Transmitter account

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xingxing-xing-xing-xing-macaquinha-macaca-gif-10399735014109140616

[deep cairn]

, holy guacamowl. Allosaurus have any special place within the story of isle

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[fierce cradle]

AE soon is a meme

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[lofty swallow]

it's the future

[neon gorge]

what if... we have to find the Cassette tape in game

[acoustic osprey]

which

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-cassette-mix-songs-music-gif-16068231

[hallow ruin]

OH GOD RUMPLE BECAME A SERVER ADMIN WOOOOO YEAHHH WAIDJJOIUFH **CONGRATS !!
**

[acoustic osprey]

wah oh

[plush widget]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1212528993283088384/1228863090368450592/ezgif-2-db49a54415.gif

[low scarab]

New name tag color

[median shuttle]

Damn, Rumple in his yellow era

[icy onyx]

Rumple yellow😱😱🔥🔥🔥🔥🤑🤑🟡🟡🟡

[fast forge]

Congrats Rumple