isle-lore-theories

[snow jasper]

but then again, I dont know if there are any plans for the area

[sharp berry]

I bet yall think uncar plute can beat elon sleeve baganoo in a fight😭 🤣

[hallow ruin]

i found this on the wiki, does this logo mean something or is it rodrego's

is this logo... a logo of "The Isle"

this is called atrium,
maybe thats what domes are for... atrium C hypo rex...
(ik this is rusty old lore)

[fast forge]

wasn't perimeter called "atrium" when we saw the map in don's stream?

[hexed forge]

It has the old trademark so probably was official, but i doubt so anymore.

[hexed forge]

Yes

[hallow ruin]

the isle is still a thing as of the name, so u can consider this logo as main lore like strains

idk im just assuming at this point, but cant bet

[hallow ruin]

atrium C for old lore made sense with how we had 3 Domes that looked like this
(using common sense to say that one of them was 3rd meaning C in alphabet)

[hexed forge]

There was an Atrium B and A

[low scarab]

Peak isle concepts

[hallow ruin]

LITERALLYT

[low scarab]

I wish we could see more of tapwings concepts

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[low scarab]

I would love to see some concept arts that aren’t like dinosaur or creature concepts

Some more landscapes yk

[hexed forge]

Tapwing doesnt do landscape/structure concepts

[low scarab]

She used to

She has done a few recent ones too?

[hexed forge]

Did she?

[low scarab]

Yea hold on

[lethal moat]

She's done a few

[low scarab]

I can’t find the one I’m looking for

But yea I’m pretty sure she still does them

We js haven’t gotten any from her recently

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[hexed forge]

He also called it the atrium himself.

[fast forge]

to be fair, it is an atrium

definitionally

where did we even get the name Perimeter from?

[hexed forge]

Its the name in the files and Uga called it that iirc.

I'm probably wrong on the Uga part, but its the name of it in the files. That's for sure.

[acoustic osprey]

i wish the devs didn't really exaggerate the title/description "atrium" from legacy times (and PC/PCE times)
because they are more so aviaries and domes back in those times, rather than atriums

but i do accept them being called Atriums
because they technically can be called such

but, still, tiny pet peeve

[hexed forge]

Could Perimeter be accepted as an Atrium then

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, but eh

it is still more of a dome

but if you imagine it as a Domed atrium
yeah it makes sense but still - not what I'd really call a proper atrium

like it is basically this though ^ (image)

but way wider and also a dome

but also in of itself contains a walled perimeter/inner wall system

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

but still
It is supposed to be a complex building

giving it a title, whether or not it is exactly it is the best thing you can do

rather than giving it 30 or so titles like a persian prince

[hexed forge]

An official name for the hexadome would be nice

[acoustic osprey]

it likely will be The Atrium, if Don calls it that

likely, also, a site or facility number

[hexed forge]

Atrium-001

Atrium-C

Would be cool to see the Atrium C, B, and A come back into Evrima lore.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tyrion-lannister-game-of-thrones-go-t-season5-puke-gif-4050714

[hexed forge]

But maybe not since its strongly connected to PC lore lol

[hexed forge]

Devblog in 4 days

Hopefully something interested related to lore is in there. Maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

yeah..

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-heavy-maybe-sniff-well-see-gif-16650546

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully a newer look at more UI, that would be good

i want to hope for some lore lore by the end of year though

[hexed forge]

I want to see the new character screen !!

[acoustic osprey]

love to see the boot up

i have a feeling Don might not show it because I'll (and potentially hacker) recreate it lol

[hexed forge]

I wonder if the Afterthought logo would be in "AE's style", (Blue?)

In the game bootup.

[acoustic osprey]

mayabe

[hexed forge]

Also some GUTS stuff would be cool.

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

i'm feeling we likely won't
seeing as we've seen 'a lot' of it already

[hexed forge]

More.

But who knows maybe its all coming in the next HT so its not even that far away lol

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i got a feeling GUTS stuff will be given stagnantly, bit by bit

[hushed sun]

my theory is

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[hushed sun]

that the isle exists in the modern day. Thats why there are pigs and deers and chicken plus Humans. Its kinda weird to say but its basicly jurrasic World

https://tenor.com/view/trapped-surrounded-raptor-scared-caught-gif-16077489

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bingo-tarantino-thats-a-bingo-gif-16052246

in legacy lore, we were taking place at roughly when we were playing irl
aka. 2017

but in Evrima lore, we don't know (yet) when we play
but we can pretty much presume the same rough time frame as predicted in Legacy for when AE was 'active' on the islands

that being 1980s-90s
potentially, though with Evrima, going up to the mid 2000s as well

seeing as we have flatscreens

oh but flatscreens, as per google, says they were made in the late 90s!
yes yes, but
just because something was made in "X" doesn't mean it was popular at the same time

take a loot at the trebuchet, this is relevant because i just watched Gladiator 2

they were introduced roughly 300/500 BC in China

that did not mean the Romans nor berbers of North Africa would've had trebuchets back then

[hushed sun]

that explaines the old TV screens When u Start the game. i would say legacy is 1980-2000 but keep in mind that they said they are going to rework the homescreen from the old TV thing to a more high advanced tech

[acoustic osprey]

especially back then, that innovation of technology took a couple hundreds of years

[acoustic osprey]

i think the new UI still has the same feel of late 80s to mid 90s computer BIOS UI

https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//10915315/b61f8e155c8584c68f55a19ea1141180bd81120f.gif

[hushed sun]

i would say 2005 or somthing

[acoustic osprey]

(of course it is hard to notate when something gets popular in "X" region, but I do believe we can give some leeway to when AE had used flatscreens — giving a few years extra. Seeing as they have a lot of them on Gateway. I would definitely say up to the mid 00s roughly)

[hushed sun]

yea

another question is how did the dinos get there. ofc dinos are not from the modern day. they must be a Human work with playing with the Genetic of dinos to Re create them

[hexed forge]

Created by The Replicator, Human technology, yes.

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know, looking at the recent Dibble "TCAM" video
We can basically infer that these dinosaurs are genetically / synthetically created

[acoustic osprey]

by the machine!

[hushed sun]

because we know that all dinos didnt exist at the same time period

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-c3po-threepio-thank-the-maker-thanks-gif-13450137

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

say, imagine all Isles' dinosaurs as fake dinosaurs

[hushed sun]

i kinda dont like the idea but it is what it is

[acoustic osprey]

fair

[hushed sun]

So another question. what are the humans trying to create there.. it has to be like a money maker thing where the dinos are getting captured and hold in those cages around the map.. i think they are trying to sell them. because i dont really see a jurassic Park for the people who want to Visit it

[acoustic osprey]

apparently we know, but.... we don't actually, because we're not too sure what Don mean.
so i can't give any proper answer

but on the topic of money
we do know there is a specialised island called The Reserve which is a Hunting Lodge
basically a rich mans exotic hunting ground
which includes a commerical section

[hexed forge]

They are not capturing the dinosuars and selling them. More of experimenting with them, tests and research going on

On Gateway atleast

[acoustic osprey]

(the inclusion of the commerical section reminds me of cruise ships)

basically every cruise ship has a commerical isle within the ship

[snow jasper]

what

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much

at least, the bourgeois-esque ships and the celebrity ships

[hushed sun]

Its only a matter of time till the humans get their helicopters/trucks/quads/boats

[snow jasper]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-only-natural-natural-palpatine-prequel-gif-20003800

[hexed forge]

Small helicopters and boats are planned to come into the game.

And quads

[acoustic osprey]

and a funny (bad because not correctly drawn...) dirtbike

[hushed sun]

hmm do you guys think when humans are a big thing in the isle some dinos will have them on their diet list ?

[hexed forge]

Would be funny if that comes into the game that way

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind if specialised dinos could have such on their diet

[hushed sun]

raptors

[acoustic osprey]

mod mod mod it away!!

[hexed forge]

Especially creatures that have tied gameplay to humans.

For example the Rug

[acoustic osprey]

i see troodons having an easier time with Humans
but raptors, definitely

[hexed forge]

And the Rug !!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-planet-eater-unicron-transformers-gif-10944298

[hexed forge]

IT KEEPS AUTOCORRECTING RUG OPS TO RUG

[snow jasper]

rug

[acoustic osprey]

the rug!!

[hexed forge]

I had to space it out for it to finally work

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-tall-cut-the-carpet-vrm-mower-mower-carpet-gif-21819313

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[hushed sun]

I have another theory. The big cubes/arenas or what you want to call it. They are like safe experiment zones for Humans on dinos after they got captured

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, more of a controlled ecosystem/environment I would say. But yeah I guess a more safe testing zone to do research on the dinos

[hushed sun]

another question is. what Tasks will humans have ? i can probably think about having a task like (capture a dillo) how ? i can imagine humans will habe Equipment like sleep munition or somthing like that

[acoustic osprey]

likely no trapping dinosaurs, as we know there will be no cages to actually use properly
but

likely observing and surveying Dinos, but also likely looting other Gen2s (name for the humans) and interacting with them

[hexed forge]

Gen2 territory wars when.

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't mind if we could tranq Dinos, potentially, and then add a "tracker" on them (because they're nested in/natural born)

[hexed forge]

I could definitely see that as a task

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

Especially on dinos that dont have trackers.

[hushed sun]

imagine u captured i dino and keep him in the big cube/Arena and he needs food so he has to obey the humans. kinda of beeing tamed ? and once he has a chance to escape he will take it

[acoustic osprey]

i'm not too sure.
I feel like that would only really work in an ARK scenario - where all players are humans
because it feels a bit too much invasive for dino players

it could work, but I imagine it would be pretty annoying if done badly

[hushed sun]

So what are the big cubes for ?

[hexed forge]

What cubes, the domes?

[hushed sun]

ya

[hexed forge]

They are likely controlled ecosystems for humans to do experiments in. More research stuff.

[acoustic osprey]

that would also mean you'd need an active human playerbase maintaining the domes constantly, if anything

[hexed forge]

For example,

How does X dino react to Y weather/temperature/terrain/etc

[acoustic osprey]

more than likely just worldbuilding for lore, yeah
at least, having minimal dino-need in-game

[hexed forge]

Ah in gameplay..

[acoustic osprey]

i can imagine Gen2s setting up base at the Domes though, at the very least

[hushed sun]

you really think the dino players care ? -.-

[acoustic osprey]

(you should emphasise past tense, Cerato)

[hexed forge]

I was speaking more of in the lore aspect, but you mean ingame..

uhhh hmmm

[fast forge]

or do they mean the holding pen at the docks?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-locked-in-farmboy64monet-farmboy64-eggman-gif-9130093786724672043

[hushed sun]

bro shut up 😭

[hexed forge]

Pretty sure they mean domes

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

do you mean these Jeshua?

[hushed sun]

yes but one of them is gone now

[hexed forge]

Two of them now

[acoustic osprey]

yea, sadly

[hushed sun]

what ?

So we only have 1 left

[acoustic osprey]

and they even ruined (imagine it being work on though, of course) East Dome's physical location as well

[hexed forge]

There were 4, including the atrium.

But now theres only 2 left, including the big atrium

[fast forge]

oh yeah that area is c definitely WIP

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

I want flooded GUTS in that area

[hexed forge]

1 Small dome and The Atrium (Big one)

[fast forge]

I loved that spot with the little river canyon and the drinking spot by the dome

Fantastic herrera hunting spot when players are actually present in the east

[hexed forge]

I lost the old gateway concept again god damnit

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-damn-damn-it-annoyed-pissed-off-gif-16637041

[acoustic osprey]

just search Gateway map the isle

[hushed sun]

i cant wait that a New call will be added for every dino who is wants to find a Partner to nest

[hexed forge]

Much easier to have it downloaded right on my PC then trying to find a high quality one from google

[acoustic osprey]

ohhh i forgot about that, that'll be cool

[acoustic osprey]

erm

[hexed forge]

But then it gets buried in the depths of all my new downloaded files

[hexed forge]

yay

Maybe Don placed a nesting zone there? At the old dome location

We know nesting zones are next HT, so maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

well, that is a bit more east of the dome though

but potentially

[hexed forge]

Still in the general area !!

[acoustic osprey]

thanks!!

isn't that now the new pond swamp

[hexed forge]

Yes

Swamp water, but I wouldnt call it a swamp tbh.

A really deep pond, mini-lake !!

[acoustic osprey]

pond swamp

[hexed forge]

NOOO

[acoustic osprey]

contains swamp water

it is way better than calling oasis an oasis on spiro

[hexed forge]

The northern sanctuary pond has swamp water.

Is it a swamp?

[hexed forge]

Why not just a pond

Eastern Pond

[acoustic osprey]

because it has swamp water

[hexed forge]

But Northern sanctuary has the same water !

[acoustic osprey]

no because no swamp trees

[hexed forge]

Erm

Eastern pond doesnt have any swamp trees iirc

[acoustic osprey]

why

[hexed forge]

Because its not a swamp !

[acoustic osprey]

why

[hexed forge]

I see now..

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[fast forge]

that's right where the east lake is located

[hexed forge]

Yes,

Its still in the eastern jungle region though, so it still could be around there perhaps.

[acoustic osprey]

erm

[fast forge]

yeah
maybe if they clear some trees away we'll see a nesting zone

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[fast forge]

or maybe it will be a jungle animal, and have a nesting area among the trees

or maybe it will just be in that open area on the coast, south of the dock

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

[hexed forge]

Oh I made a mistake,

The devblog is on Friday

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-nolan-grayson-nolan-grayson-gif-16724675788842523701

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[fast forge]

I was thinking there's a chance they might take thursday/friday off, if so we could potentially see devblog drop tonight

but that seems unlikely to me, just considering how international the dev team is

[acoustic osprey]

why?

[hexed forge]

Thanksgiving

[acoustic osprey]

oh i thought that already happened
what a funny holiday

well, we know kissen isn't contributing because she is on holidays

so it'll likely be on the friday

[hexed forge]

You are a funny holiday !!!

[hexed forge]

Yea

[acoustic osprey]

soon i will be in january, thank you

[hexed forge]

oh

[fast forge]

last thursday of november, so it shifts around from year to year

[acoustic osprey]

what a wacky time

i would've imagined it being a specific day
interesting

[thin vine]

WE LOVE TURKEY TOMORROW!!!

[thin vine]

wrong place

[hexed forge]

@robust ether

[hushed sun]

i think its very cool that dinos have more attacks. it Shows that they are really going all out with combat

i think Diablo has 5 attacks and 1 block

[robust ether]

NOO GOD PLEASE NO

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[fast forge]

yum

[fierce cradle]

Hey guyz , like what is the story behind the whole isle .... Just a gist

[fast forge]

our understanding of the isle lore is disjointed, we only know bits and pieces

We know the dinosaurs were made by a company called Apollo Engineering, or AE
They were really only a subsidiary of a larger multinational known as Apollo

We know the dinosaurs aren't really dinosaurs, we think they are just made to look and act like real dinosaurs, but I don't think they actually have dino DNA

Actually, I wrote the foreword to the lore document, it explains it better than I'm accomplishing here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[fierce cradle]

U wrote it ? It's very good and organized

[fast forge]

I wrote the section leading up to "Lore begins here"

ty

[lethal moat]

There is also a lore server if you’re interested

[fierce cradle]

Where is Tartarus ?

[fierce cradle]

Link ?

[fast forge]

we don't know

[lethal moat]

I wish I knew

[fierce cradle]

But it's there

[lethal moat]

https://discord.gg/2P5Cq3B9

[fierce cradle]

Is it ?

[lethal moat]

It exists somewhere

[fast forge]

in the lore, probably not in game yet

[fierce cradle]

Like first when we login in game it looks like we are watching our characters via camera isn't it ?

[fast forge]

[lethal moat]

UI change coming soon TM

[fierce cradle]

Next year ?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

No etas

[fierce cradle]

Next to next maybe

[fast forge]

devs don't work with timelines, it sets unrealistic expectations
we get it when we get it
they did show us a little bit in the last devblog though, so we sometimes see what they are working on

[fierce cradle]

It was like a year ago isn't it ?

[fast forge]

the last devblog?

[fierce cradle]

Yes

[fast forge]

they are monthly

#announcements message

[fierce cradle]

Lol ok

[fast forge]

we are expecting a new one on friday

[fierce cradle]

I mean the where they show in video what are they describing it

[fast forge]

I don't understand

[fierce cradle]

Like in a conference.....

[fierce cradle]

Is this the new UI ?

[fast forge]

yes

[fierce cradle]

U like it ?

[fast forge]

I do, yeah

And the new in-game UI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvMRSrZXPKU&t=35s

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[fast forge]

apparently we can change the color

[cerulean summit]

We can?! How?

[lethal moat]

Not yet

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-planet-eater-unicron-transformers-gif-10944298

[acoustic osprey]

soon soon, once the actual new ui comes in

[hallow ruin]

YES. YES. spread the knowledge SPREAD THE LORE

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

apologises for youtube shorts
but
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/93z5dZ1NrJc?feature=share

giving me crazy isle lore hunt vibes

of course, make it more believable ||no giant megalaons or flying staircases lol||

something i doubt we'd get the crazy complexity of this video
(there was a similar one in Battlefield V on one of the Japanese maps as well, which was less complex but still pretty crazy)

but
would be cool to see in the future with potential future lore hunts

[tired nymph]

Do we have any conspiracy theories

[lethal moat]

That’s mostly what we have lol, check the pinned comments here and the above conversation lol

[tired nymph]

I have theory that baby stegos are created by aliens and send to earth to destroy it's plant population

That explains their noises

[hexed forge]

No

[zenith frigate]

I cant think of anything to prove otherwise in the lore so until I'm shown proof, Stegos were sent by aliens.

[tired nymph]

i mean have you heard how babies beg for foood

[hexed forge]

[haughty wing]

🤮

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassicpark-jurassic-parc-jurassic-jurassic-park-movie-jurrassic-park-gif-24925951

I wonder if its referring to the Island/facility Gateway. (The map we have in evrima currently)

[lethal moat]

I would think so

[low scarab]

I’m pretty certain it is

Or was I should say

Map was also renamed from velada to gateway for likely this reason

[hexed forge]

Isaac told me that Don was planning to have 5 islands ingame. And my immediate thought went to Las Cinco Muertes. (The 5 deaths)

If you dont know what that is, its the 5 main islands in JP/JW "lore", Ingen facilities. I wonder if Don is still sticking around that idea.

[hexed forge]

Velada is the island itself, Gateway is the name of the facility.

[hexed forge]

"Spero, Spiro, Thenyaw and two others"

Gateway either replaced Thenyaw, Spiro, or Spero. Or its part of the "Two others"

Which makes me hopeful to see one of those three maps come back into evrima

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-levi-schmitt-possibilites-are-endless-endless-possibilities-possibilities-gif-25099500

If Tartarus turns out to be a whole seperate Island

That would be hilarious

Island three apparently was being terraformed.

Also the entire first Olympus Transmission on the Archive Doc was 35-40 minutes long? (First screenshot is near the start, Second is at the end)
Lots of information missing/we didnt see what the user was doing throughout the entire thing I assume...?

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-talking-gif-24637905

[lethal moat]

It’s a possibility

[hexed forge]

I always thought of it as an extremely unlikely possibility. But looking through legacy turned me into a new light.

[lethal moat]

Anything about Tartarus beyond the two references would be much appreciated

[hexed forge]

Look back into Legacy lore

[lethal moat]

It’s not real and it can’t hurt me

https://tenor.com/view/i-can't-even-see-you-sir-i-am-blind-legally-blind-gif-14132104317079151247

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-the-dark-side-of-the-force-abilities-unnatural-black-magic-gif-14302242

[acoustic osprey]

this wasn't really olympus transmitter

[acoustic osprey]

no

velada was said to be a placeholder name

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[hexed forge]

Ah

What was it then?

[acoustic osprey]

these were user inquiries done through a console

[hexed forge]

huh

Its just someone asking a system questions?

[acoustic osprey]

likely no

[acoustic osprey]

two people
first was Khorne, second was Chance

these were the people who logged into the game
Presumably through the game

wait no, through Don's stream iirc

it has been years since though

this was pre this discord
hard to find primary information on it though

[hexed forge]

Doesnt make sense

There are two people having a conversation?

Oh wait, or did I misread. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

I see now

So was the first user inquiry, with Khorne, actually 35-40 minutes long, or did it just end abruptly due to some sort of error?

[acoustic osprey]

what do you mean!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

yes
first was Khorne

[hexed forge]

I misread !!

[acoustic osprey]

second Chance

[acoustic osprey]

can you fish yourself

[hexed forge]

Im not pink

[acoustic osprey]

yes it was roughly that long

[acoustic osprey]

@zenith frigate fish this cerato please

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/anxious-right-thanks-very-good-helpful-gif-17740077

[hexed forge]

I think he might be busy staring at SteamDB

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Devblog tomorrow...

UI..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-planet-eater-unicron-transformers-gif-10944298

[hexed forge]

I rather Unicron to not do that please !!

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[zenith frigate]

-# late fish reaction

[hexed forge]

yay

[icy onyx]

Woo hoo

[fast forge]

terraforming?

[hexed forge]

Yep

I had the exact same thought too.

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t be surprised if AE’s already done some of that on gateway

[hexed forge]

If Im reading it correctly, Island three was the one being terraformed.

[hexed forge]

They probably did it to every island that has major infrastructure.

[lethal moat]

Fair

[acoustic osprey]

How does an empire die? Does it collapse in one terrible moment? No. No! But there comes a time when its people no longer believe in it. Then, then does an empire begin to die

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

nice quote i feel like that might match AE a bit

[hexed forge]

There probably would be a few people which after sometime start to go against AE's ways of doing things

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose we do know about someone sects not knowing what others are doing at the same time

but how can these comments from Don be translated into solid lore, of sorts

[fast forge]

It's someone accessing a computer console, and the "female voice" would be the computer responding

[hexed forge]

Isaac already explained yes

[fast forge]

It's interesting, we only get one side of the exchange
We don't see the inputs from "Damien", just the responses

But you can usually guess what they wrote

First they ask for a System Report
Then the computer asks for User ID and a name

Then we get "Awaiting User Inquiry", so the computer is waiting for input

Then
"Remaining: 35 Minutes"

This part is curious, what was Damien's input for this response? 35 minutes remaining for what?

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

Or was a timed login period, they only had 35 minutes left before having to re-login

I see

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

it was done on a stream
so it would've been on chat

or the responses were shown on stream
can't remember which

but we see his inputs, technically
each user inquiry is Khorne's allowed input per question

[hexed forge]

Is Khorne still on the discord

[acoustic osprey]

no iirc

[hexed forge]

Damn

[acoustic osprey]

yep, he's old account was deleted (on discord)

he likely has a new account but don't know about it

[hexed forge]

It's you

[acoustic osprey]

not re-login

once the timer was up, you (Khorne) couldn't be assisted any longer by Unknown Entity

You are out of time.
I cannot help you further

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-elrond-certain-nothing-gif-27162622

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[acoustic osprey]

but no, i barely knew khorne
and khorne would not know me at all

khorne was very active in the old discord

[hexed forge]

They probably moved on in life, forgot isle existed

[acoustic osprey]

probably not forgot
but definitely moved on

it is a shame Khorne and Galli both pretty much poofed

(the two people part of the user inquiries)

[hexed forge]

Galli is Dr. Chance?

[acoustic osprey]

especially with Galli (Dr Chance) getting a lore role/part

[hexed forge]

Ah wow

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Didn't know that

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

contrast to someone like Aliens
lol

went insane with the allosaurus

tbf, Aliens was here basically since the beginning
so he has been here and is doing it for the long run

even if he isn't in the discord anymore

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/buu44qsrhy124p8s7z9zv/CAN_YOU_UNDERSTAND_ME.pdf?rlkey=l5a4duk7dcs08igaezla8f1ve&e=2&dl=0
also better version of the user inquiries

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/who-gif-4519872

[acoustic osprey]

as in, a bit more easier to copy and past

[acoustic osprey]

go to reddit
there is quite likely a guy saying "when allosaurus"

or check in my discord server

[hexed forge]

Danke !!

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

Ohhh him lmao

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

you have, very good

[hexed forge]

I no longer see

[knotty locust]

ah, the ex-QA guy

In fact I think he’s still here

Aliens884 or something like that

oh wait you’ve already talked about him

[acoustic osprey]

ex-mod

[acoustic osprey]

he's not in the server anymore.....

[ionic sable]

Aliens is pretty chill

[acoustic osprey]

(i know, but his public caricature is that he is the insane allo needer)

[acoustic osprey]

but the isle turns its best soldiers insane 😔

[fast forge]

[low scarab]

Eughooayooo allosaurus

[fast forge]

this is what we do when we get no lore

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[hexed forge]

So true

[lethal moat]

Deg blorv today

[hexed forge]

Yep

Hoping for UI and GUTS stuff

[lethal moat]

Lore plz 🙏 (I work until 11 today and probably won’t see anything until then)

[hexed forge]

Soon..

[meager junco]

Hoping the the tower from old concepts has started being worked on

[twin canyon]

I hope we get to see some awesome stuff on allo

[twin canyon]

real

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/simon-cowell-back-off-cross-demon-britains-got-talent-gif-12932058

[icy onyx]

overrated

[twin canyon]

Nah it lives up to its hype

[hexed forge]

I think I might be getting possessed by the allo fanbase

[icy onyx]

not at all

[twin canyon]

It’s well liked for a reason

T. rex is overrated I’d say

[lethal moat]

Break Allo’s knees and send it to the ocean

[icy onyx]

real

[lethal moat]

Rex fans are classic, allo fans are rabid, that’s the difference

[twin canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-allosaurus-allo-the-isle-islecord-approaching-gif-26417974

[lethal moat]

[twin canyon]

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-swag-chill-jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-gif-18753311

[fast forge]

says rex is overrated

meanwhile rex fans don't make edgy gifs like this

[twin canyon]

we Allosaurus fans are a different breed hahaha

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1309836903859621918/nqutDAkL.gif

[hexed forge]

hi

Can I have that 800k

I need it for lore purposes, thanks.

Invest in Dondi-bucks

Thanks mods

[acoustic osprey]

NOO

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[hexed forge]

Any hour now..devblog..

UI por favor..

[acoustic osprey]

we'll likely get a usual timed dblog this time around

[south pelican]

🙏

[hexed forge]

I have inhaled copium, and,

Potentially a video with the devblog !!

(Im trying to revive the chat)

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[low scarab]

We need more isle lore yt stuff

[hexed forge]

Soon...Soon

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-victory-cheer-excited-battle-gif-15395696

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/you-gif-18001814

[acoustic osprey]

why are you using the wrong gif

[hexed forge]

Whats the right gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968592718102138960/1087535724162719847/lotrlinegif.gif

THIS is the gif

[hexed forge]

oh

I shall use both

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[limber frigate]

Hi

[hexed forge]

Hi

[snow jasper]

Salut

[hexed forge]

No devblog today, starvation continues, tomorrow we feast.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-movie2-dr-robotnik-tea-sipping-tea-sips-tea-gif-25258202

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-cat-gif-18592370

[fossil nebula]

https://media.tenor.com/Qr1jjYJ4D3UAAAAM/orco-antorcha-lotr.gif

when theres a lore delivery

[lethal moat]

YIPPIE

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-maybe-some-day-someday-one-day-gif-26036494

[hexed forge]

Soon

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

Holiday pfp, yahoo

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[median shuttle]

Okay, just had a crackpot theory...

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-yelling-angry-mad-scolding-gif-16234801952486706132

[median shuttle]

Dinosaurs lived during a period of extreme warmth during the cycle of Ice Ages and Periods of Warmth. In my seminar on Earth Systems my professor showed us a graph showing the rises and falls in ppm (parts per million) of CO2 particles in the atmosphere. What was really emphasised was that between a glacial maximum to a warmth period with polar icecaps the difference in CO2 particles per ppm was usually about 100ppm so a glacial maximum would have 108ppm and the warmth period with icecaps would have 208ppm. Currently we're at 420ish ppm of atmospheric CO2.

Climate Change and having to do horrible things because of horrible circumstances has been mentioned as part of the lore as far as I understand. EIP's, Dinosaurs, cultivation of modern Plants, Apollo Engineering, Gen 1 & 2 both categorised as human. My theory basically boils down to: Apollo is trying to create ways to deal with the fallout of irreversable climate change and an end to the current ice age. The Plants might be getting engineered to withstand more extreme climate. Gen 1 & 2, EIP's and Dinosaurs, maybe even strains could be ways to force human evolution to withstand the upcoming challenges posed by climate change. Idk if this is already sorta speculated or a huge revelation or just incoherent rambling. Lmk what y'all think

[hexed forge]

This was speculated a few times in here already, pretty popular one I would say. But you went much more in-depth.

Me personally, I like the theory, I believe that its probably a very accurate one judging by some of Don's previous comments. It just all sort of connects.

[young viper]

yea but

[fast forge]

AE started research on megaflora first, and giant plants could play a significant role in ameliorating climate change. I've even wondered about the redwoods - perhaps they've made a faster-growing type of redwood that can grow outside of the restricted humid coastal range of the current species, meant for quick and considerable carbon capture

[river marsh]

I recall Apollo used to be in Agriculture. Is that still canon?

[hexed forge]

Yes

[river marsh]

Gotcha good to know; and yeah plants can be adapted pretty quickly to a different environment. Avoiding negative effects takes a long time (making a plant grow faster can result in it being spindly and weak and easilly knocked over/killed) , but perhaps that's why the domes exist? Protection while they acclimate the foliage.

[hexed forge]

I believe domes are used as controlled ecosystems/environments to test creatures and probably plants too, yeah.

[river marsh]

likely a mix of both yeah

[icy onyx]

why was devblog delayed

[median shuttle]

wrong channel but here #isle-discussion message

[lethal moat]

The server hamsters were eaten by velociraptors and needed to be replaced with juvie austros

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-metal-gear-rising-sam-gif-24999738

[fast forge]

sometimes stuff misses a deadline
not a big deal

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-bad-ape-thumbs-up-gif-4164600594097072693

[lethal moat]

GUTS stuff is always nice

[hexed forge]

Looks very cool

[acoustic osprey]

yeah i guess

this looks cool though

[lethal moat]

Do donuts in there like it’s an underground parking garage

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I speak nothing but the truth

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doing-donuts-brand-new-bino-rideaux-skid-coming-gif-21430234

[lethal moat]

I can’t wait to hunt in GUTS as a dilo

[acoustic osprey]

yay is connected

reminds me of a subway of sorts

where i'm gonna presume looks like a tunnel with collemns in the centre/middle for support

[hexed forge]

Is it though..

[acoustic osprey]

well, every other tunnel is pitch black

[acoustic osprey]

like the other tunnels that have black/shadow walls

[kind kindle]

Ankylosaurus

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[hexed forge]

What do you mean by "Connected"

Connected to something actually on the map, or is it just something like that one GUTS tunnel at Docks.

[acoustic osprey]

connected to a tunnel

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

which is likely connected to somewhere on the map

but it may not be
potentially just being on his test map

[hexed forge]

This is what Im thinking

[acoustic osprey]

but it is likely connected to the first HUB on his test map

or nothing

alas, a bit disappointed we didn't get any sort of follow up for UI

i'm not going to place my bets on UI coming this year then, sadly

[hexed forge]

Same

[hexed forge]

Yeah, dont place any bets.

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Dont remind them.

[lethal moat]

Isaac really just pulled out a LiDAR Scanner to look into the tunnels lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/enhance-gif-10953787

[ornate silo]

Mix packing is real

[river marsh]

reminder to read the channel description bud

but also; Isaac how the heck did you do that >.>

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/huey-lewis-and-the-news-the-power-of-love-back-to-the-future-1985-gif-10085259

(photoshop)

[river marsh]

lmao fair it probably has better curve settings than clipstudio

[hexed forge]

Also, this reminds me,

Hopefully with the addition of Maia and some GUTS stuff it will revive the east side of the map...

I need the Docks deathmatch meme to be true

This looks like something that might be at perimeter

[acoustic osprey]

a door!!

[hexed forge]

Thanks

Anyways no devblog until the end of January now.

Hibernation time.. with no lore...

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-18890916

[low scarab]

Massive w tapwing artwork

[fast forge]

december doesn't get one?

[acoustic osprey]

likely no, if we look at last year

[hexed forge]

Unless we get lucky, no, because they are on break

[fast forge]

oh yeah, huh

[low scarab]

Except we might get an update near Christmas

[acoustic osprey]

not last year is what i'm saying

[hexed forge]

We didnt get one in 2022 too right?

[acoustic osprey]

no we did

[hexed forge]

oh wow yeah we did

Interesting

[feral tendon]

Do you guys know how far the giga is? I've only seen the model and the concept art

[hexed forge]

Not in development, but this is the wrong chat to ask in

[feral tendon]

Ah I'm guessing the channel above

Thank you though I appreciate it

[acoustic osprey]

thinking Tar Tar is less a proper prison
more a hellish (aka. Annoying and more painstaking) ||potentially underground|| facility(ies)

mostly that i'm relooking at the quote from AUGUSTUS

"Tartarus relocation"
relocation, if it was a prison, would infer you're already in prison already
it feels like, rather than being a proper prison, Tartarus is more a space for you to pay your crimes (likely via physical labour, etc)

[hexed forge]

I always thought of Tartarus as a place where you are sent to be a test subject. Painful experiments perhaps.

And since you cant "die", because you are an EIP, you just experience that pain over and over. I would expect it to not be a permanent punishment tho.

Maybe a set of lives? 100 lives? 10?

[cerulean summit]

What exactly does EIP stand for?

[acoustic osprey]

embyro intelligence profile

[hexed forge]

^

[acoustic osprey]

that is assuming so, though

[hexed forge]

Let me dream... let me dream..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/david-tennant-cry-doctor-who-sad-rain-gif-11794483

[hexed forge]

If we get some lore as a Christmas gift I would be happy!!!.... for a week..maybe a month..

[acoustic osprey]

haha...

[cerulean summit]

So are both humans and dinos EIPs? Or just Gen1 and Gen 2 “humans”?

[acoustic osprey]

presumably just Dinos atm
but i don't see why not with humans as well

especially with Gen1s

[hexed forge]

However, we dont know if all dinos have EIPs.

It may be just a few.

[acoustic osprey]

(this is what it was in Legacy)

[hexed forge]

yea

But in Evrima it might be different !!

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
I prefer it to be all
seeing as that is how it was in Legacy, which made sense as connecting to the game to actual lore

but, yeah. Don't know.
We don't know much contact the replicator has with Evrima dinos now

[cerulean summit]

I would assume it’s also humans since EIP sounds like they’re using cloned embryos to create genetic profiles for their experiments. Sounds like they’re modified both humans and dinos so it would make sense if it were both.

[hexed forge]

I just cant imagine EIPs being able to act like actual "animals"...... For example like the Dibbles in the lore video. I dont think an EIP is able to replicate behavior of an actual creature.. Im not sure tho..

Just not computing in my head on how someone can act like an actual creature, so.. "naturally"

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, why not
they would've been through hundreds of different lives

why are they still baseline humans consciously?

[cerulean summit]

Wait so are EIPs not just genetic profiles? Am I assuming too much thinking that they’re just a collection of genetically modified lineages for different species?

[hexed forge]

Hundreds of lives as the same creature?

[acoustic osprey]

to what we know, they are only the consciousness inside of the mind for all and any creature that has been given one (a profile)
these profiles being presumed human minds beforehand

[acoustic osprey]

no, different lives

and not only having to deal with different kinds and shapes of brains, but also bodies, people, interests - alongside a completely different setting: an isolated forest/island
why should they act human anymore?

[hexed forge]

Switch from a Herrera, to Dibble, to Ptera, to rex, to then gen2,

Does their consciuousness kind of "Shape into" the mentality of x creature.

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, no real brain
this is all conscious matter

all profiles inside the brain

[cerulean summit]

So in a meta-sense, we the players are the EIPs then right?

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah, mb, I meant to say consciousness, not brain.

[acoustic osprey]

in legacy? Yep, 100%
in Evrima? Presumably so but we're not too sure on the timeline to fully understand

[acoustic osprey]

i ... forgive you!!

[hexed forge]

I fixed it

[hexed forge]

Youre an EIP, Im an EIP, Hes an EIP!, THEY ARE AN EIP,

WE ARE EIPs.

[cerulean summit]

What do we know about the Replicator? There’s not much on the lore doc other than T.O.M.B.

[hexed forge]

Its what "creates" the creatures, its a set of different systems that all make up "The Replicator"

[acoustic osprey]

i don't really see it as: You turn into their mentality by being put into X creature
I presume a lot of these lives wouldn't be exactly short lived (grown into an adult immediately)

I still believe some of these lives would've given the profile'd dino some time to become like X dino they are

[cerulean summit]

And we know for sure Apollo built it? Or did they find it? Is it alien tech?

[hexed forge]

No aliens/alien tech in isle lore.

However we dont know if Apollo actually built it, but I dont see why not.

[hexed forge]

"profile'd dino some time to become like X dino they are"

So basically, while they are actually growing the dino. Perhaps

[cerulean summit]

Well if it’s set in the 1990s as some of the videos suggest then technology is probably way more advanced than it is now.

[hexed forge]

Their universe is much more advanced then ours yes, probably, likely.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
and now imagine this happening 1000 times with per profile
whether a quick or short life
that is a lot of 'past lives' and past mentalities that the profile would have to endure

[cerulean summit]

Do you mean that the EIPs method act their way into learning how to “be” the dino? Or are they just “roleplaying” as dinos?

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmmmmm, maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

not really roleplaying
I believe these profiles (the EIPs) to be stuck in the body of each dino - imagine an astronaut in space, say.
They would have to learn quickly, plus also their conscious mind would be mixed in with the brain of an actual dinosaur they would be in

how much does the chemical-side of having a dino brain while also having a human consciousness affect you?

[cerulean summit]

Ahhh okay. I was thinking that they were employees of Apollo rather than test subjects. Hmm… that is interesting. The biology of their body would definitely affect them in some ways (not being able to make human vocalizations for example). But I wonder what this “consciousness” is. Is it more like a soul, as an in a metaphysical identity that no matter what remains one being? Or are memories transferred with “consciousness” in this case? From what I’ve seen you say it seems like you believe that memories (at least some of them) are transferred to the new host body. Personality too maybe.

I don’t know if my rambling made sense. Apologies if it didn’t

[hexed forge]

Thats how I always feel like when talking im in here. You arent the only one.

[cerulean summit]

I guess what I’m trying to say is what makes an EIP and EIP? Is it their memories? Their personality? Or some other sense of metaphysical identity like, for example, a soul.

[acoustic osprey]

The biology of their body would definitely affect them in some ways
I do agree, very much so. Does make me wonder how far complex Don wants to go - of course, if you keep falling down the rabbit hole you're just going to have super super hyper realism. Basically removing every interesting element lol.

I was thinking that they were employees of Apollo rather than test subjects
They could be still employees, perhaps. Definitely depends on the context behind whom would want this. Because I imagine it would pretty juxtaposing, a large line of people who would say yes but also no.

Or are memories transferred with “consciousness” in this case?
a lot of what i say presumes no
for me, it would make sense. If you remove the memories, i would imagine this would come up with some ethical problems. You're basically wiping out a whole persons mind (but 1000 or so times)

Is it more like a soul, as an in a metaphysical identity that no matter what remains one being
Seeing as there are some spirtual/mythological symbolisms in the game, i can imagine it almost like a metaphysical / soul-like aspect with EIPs

[cerulean summit]

Thanks for the reassurance

[cerulean summit]

Thanks for the detailed reply! Yeah things start getting really complicated when you start bringing up theories of personal identity.

Besides EIPs though, what sorts of spiritual/mythological symbolism is in the game? I guess Tartarus as a reference to one of the Greek underworlds.

[hexed forge]

Greek Mythology is very big in Isle Lore

Project Deimos

[acoustic osprey]

yeah... crazy amount of stuff.
This definitely can be brought up in-lore though with how the general public might see it.

or even see the creation of dinosaurs, at the very bare minimum.

we do know there might be some aspects of people/companies trying ||potentially, succeeding. Hard to say without HARD lore, of course|| to sabotage AE's stuff
so... yeah

[hexed forge]

What are the Rival companies names again.

RF and EC?

[hexed forge]

So much so that AE had to create Gen1s to be used as a retaliatory weapon against these people/companies.

[cerulean summit]

Speaking of “hard” lore, where do you guys get this info? Is it scattered in game or just in the official Isle YouTube videos?

[cerulean summit]

Angry monkè

[hexed forge]

So far "hard" lore, is just youtube videos and documents given by devs. I say devs, but its more so just Don.

[acoustic osprey]

what sorts of spiritual/mythological symbolism is in the game
good question
lots of Greek Mythos stuff

tons of Greek mythos names in Legacy and Evrima
Zeus, etc, entries
Apollo Engineering
Mercury Benefical (Roman... yeah... but then, we also have AUGUSTUS the Herrera, if we want to say another roman reference)

Deimos and Golem-Ceti
Golem is a bit 50/50 - that is more so Jewish folklore; saying that though, the ERRANT-291 abstract map matches up with the tree of life from jewish folklore...
so...
but yeah

this is general stuff
even more with stuff like Echidna, Colossus, etc

[hexed forge]

The only ingame lore we have gotten is....oh...ehm.

[cerulean summit]

Thank you so much!

[hexed forge]

For example

[acoustic osprey]

relatively scattered right now.
What i mean by hard lore is official isle lore videos
isle sheets and documents, like ERRANT-291

painfully we have lots of quotes from Dondi
which i do like but there are many issues from going off such
so, i don't like calling it anything akin to 'hard lore'
good footnotes and general summary of names, etc

[cerulean summit]

Oh… that sparse huh?

[acoustic osprey]

i do HOPE to see this with the dino glance sheets...

[hexed forge]

Barely anything ingame lorewise,

Theres world-building, but, just very little. Hopefully GUTS will save us.

[acoustic osprey]

Don did, at least, see my reply when i asked after you, Cerato.
So, hopefully.

[hexed forge]

What

Which reply

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[acoustic osprey]

about the glance sheets in-game

[cerulean summit]

Any idea when GUYS will be implemented? I saw that they’re making progress in the newest devlog but I didn’t see anything about a timeline for it

[acoustic osprey]

we can hope soon
Probably once a bit more work is done

I'm going to guess it won't be released all finished
so maybe even next HT. If we're lucky...

[hexed forge]

Theres some of it coming next update I think. Just a small piece.

The entire GUTS system will be released one by one, piece by piece, will take awhile.

[cerulean summit]

We can only hope it’s next HT

[acoustic osprey]

😔

[hexed forge]

I wonder how that Non-euclidean..... -I cant spell it but either way you get the point !!

I wonder how thats going, if that was even tested on the map yet.

[cerulean summit]

Is it going to be where that big center building is now? Between South Plains and the Swamp?

[hexed forge]

Likely next to the Docks first.

[acoustic osprey]

non-euclidean geometry
but yes

[hexed forge]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

i'm going to presume the GUTS HUB shown will be at East Docks

[cerulean summit]

If I had to guess they’ll probably do procedurally generated interiors or have a set list of “rooms” that you can walk into and each door leads to a new instance of a “room”

[acoustic osprey]

just because it makes sense for an admin + industrial HUB at a place of importing and exporting

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquito-dancing-weird-strange-maze-gif-7761017

[cerulean summit]

Where is East docks? Is that down below the Swamp?

[hexed forge]

https://vulnona.com/game/the_isle/#side/cfg

On the right side, east.

Labeled as "Port" on the map.

[cerulean summit]

I don’t think I’ve ever been to that part of the map.

Huh. Glad they’re fleshing out the less explored parts of the map

[hexed forge]

You should try it out,
Very cool spot, theres also an underground pipe system under the docks that small dinos can walk around in.

[cerulean summit]

Small as in dryo, troodon, and hypsi?

[hexed forge]

Yep

[cerulean summit]

And yeah I’ll definitely check it out. I know you typically use galli to explore but my full grown teno has been alive for the past week and a half so I’m just sticking to him

[merry sierra]

small as in raptor, galli, dilo

[hexed forge]

And smaller

Dilo needs to crouch to get in tho. Same with raptor

[acoustic osprey]

looking at old prototype photos
man this reminds me of The Forest LOL

crazy to think how close yet how far we are from getting properly playable Humans
man

[summer birch]

It's been 8 years, it can easily be another 8.

[acoustic osprey]

si, hence how close and yet how far it has been

[summer birch]

At this point why even add humans at all? They are not part of the established identity of the game based on the fact people have experienced it for the better part of a decade just fine without them.

[acoustic osprey]

fair point
but why try do anything then? why try to make something?

at this point, if you do nothing. You get no where.

it was the original idea of the game
and Don wants to try now properly

of course, it is taking its time
it is not the main priority? Yeah

like with full Aquatics, like mosaurus

[summer birch]

Sure, but they could be trying to improve the experience of what's already there, since it's taken 8 years to get this far and the dinosaur gameplay still has a long way to go before it's anything beyond serviceable. At this point it's just a glorified chatroom where you can only chat to a predetermined number of people, but if you don't like who you're talking to, you can kill them.

It's a playable fantasy nature documentary, which is cool.

[acoustic osprey]

that is assuming they're full speed ahead of Gen2s and Gen2s, no? Where all of these devs are working on such too
Where it has been 4 years for Evrima (technically 5 if you include 2019)

I don't really find the static life of not trying to make a unique ip very interesting

hence why only a few dedicated devs, literally only one (or two), work related to that field specifically

[summer birch]

The IP is already unique as it is. One could argue that adding humans actually detracts from the uniqueness since humans aren't all that uncommon in popular culture.

[acoustic osprey]

unique? Sure, to an extent
but it is now amongst a crowd of sheep now

they can either just finish the game where it is
which is fine

but i don't mind going into Human stuff as well
it doesn't hurt anything nor anyone

[thin vine]

i need this in my life

[acoustic osprey]

specially since there'll be servers with them disabled
Like it is now

[summer birch]

I feel like it could hurt the experience if done improperly, but I too would like to see what they'd do with the concept.

[thin vine]

getting hunted by a juvie raptor in a forest during a rainy night as human is some of the most fun ive had in evrima

[acoustic osprey]

like go to the volcano!!

[thin vine]

UP4 HUMANS WERE SO FUN

[acoustic osprey]

hence

specially since there'll be servers with them disabled
Like it is now

[thin vine]

i dont wanna it might be scary :/

[acoustic osprey]

they seem to fully understand not everyone wants Gen2s
nor having Global Chat off

which is understandable

[acoustic osprey]

oh, i see

devs want customisable community servers
I don't really see how this hurts your isle gameplay vision

unless you solely play on Officials

[summer birch]

Yes, you posted this at the same time I posted the reply. I reckon it's a necessary failsafe. It'll be seen whether human/dino servers or dino servers become more populated before it can be determined which is better.

[thin vine]

i will however gladly go to docks as human and set up cute little lemonade stands

[acoustic osprey]

which is fair
i only play on Officials anyways

[summer birch]

Yea same. Lots of griefers though.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i don't mind to wait and see
if it fails, it fails

but at least they tried, i do suppose.
Nothing really hurts if they're going to put the effort in to try and make it enjoyable

[thin vine]

im so INTERESTED to see if tribe-esque cultures will form on gateway similar to what ark has, just without an actual tribe mechanic. pure vibes as the tribe initiation. if we dont like you we simply loot your body and toss it over the wall 💪

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275460454948536401/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[thin vine]

maiasaura on its way to harass the local GEN1's into talking AE into giving it udders

[acoustic osprey]

wah oh

[summer birch]

To be pedantic, it does hurt if it fails. Lost resources, lost time, lost money. But the risk is worth the cost if the potential reward is gameplay that adds a lot of variety and mechanics.

[acoustic osprey]

there is a chance of such, sure

lost resources doesn't seem that much of a big deal
the same goes with all the lost resources from 2014-2019, to be fair
a majority of that isle stuff isn't really ever going to see the light of day

and lost time doesn't really matter because it is done by specialised devs.
Sure, once programmers start getting on it. That'll be where lost time enters, though.

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1309836903859621918/nqutDAkL.gif

[kindred bobcat]

There is a prototype where they had some pretty good playable humans

[lethal moat]

Shoot, what did I miss?

[hexed forge]

Nothing

New people getting interested in Lore and the lore community educating them.

[lethal moat]

Nice, go team

[muted reef]

They have to be real nuts to stick around permanently with how much of a wild goose chase this story is

[hexed forge]

[muted reef]

I used to be interested in some fnaf lore and now I'll just check in on that story once a year or smth

This is definitely more interesting than that but still

Hard to get fully invested

[lethal moat]

Warhammer is definitely fun to read about during the downtime here

[muted reef]

Skyrim lore

I will say since it's now been a year I'm involved in this

These specific months seem to peak my interest highest

I feel much more ingrained in the mystery

Oh how we've all changed

[hexed forge]

Hopefully this upcoming HT includes the new GUTS hub and the new glance sheets.

[muted reef]

Glance sheets?

[sonic rampart]

#isle-phase-three message

[hexed forge]

Dinosaur glance sheets

[tribal osprey]

Oh when?

[muted reef]

Yeah I know what they are but are there gonna be more for like maia and allo?

Also unreal engine 5.5 is looking mighty nice rn

I think they should switch

[hexed forge]

Probably that one version with the house in the middle of a redwood jungle, I think.

[muted reef]

UE5.5 could be great for human faces

[hexed forge]

Yes, more dinosaur glance sheets.

[kindred bobcat]

the isle doesnt use meta humans

[muted reef]

Ik...they should

[kindred bobcat]

nah

[muted reef]

Either way I don't think the humans are gonna have many facial animations

Maybe their mouths move with prox chat or flinch when they're in pain but thats the most I'd see out of it

[nova cypress]

Warhammer lore is peak

[fast forge]

Warhammer lore is mildly interesting, but it's just so damn edgy and bleak I can't get too much into it

Also it tends to attract a certain crowd that loves the fascist rhetoric and aesthetic a little too much for my taste

[muted reef]

Hold up...that new soundtrack in the john cake meme...could be LIT for guts or perimeter

[lethal moat]

I just watch the youtube videos that explain the books

[fast forge]

But I think Ork biology is fun

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mushroom-forest-nature-water-drop-drop-gif-1706932180276578705

[fast forge]

weird fungal space orcs

[lethal moat]

I like Tyranids

[fast forge]

Tyranids are just knockoff xenomorphs, but I like the aesthetic anyway

[fast forge]

I worked at a game store with a big warhammer section, and I remember looking at the models a lot
I always liked tyranids the most

[lethal moat]

I'd live to try and paint some iridescence onto a brown carapace

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/david-tennant-cry-doctor-who-sad-rain-gif-11794483

[hexed forge]

HAVE HOPE ISAAC, HAVE HOPE.

[acoustic osprey]

are you referring to Legacy? Then yeah, that was an ok prototype
it was our closest prototype though haha

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-cat-slap-slap-gif-2895385951685947789

[acoustic osprey]

painfully it was
but
It was back when humans were mercs

so, it still was far from the current idea for Gen2s

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[hexed forge]

Which prototype?

The ones with assault rifles?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, back in legacy

[hexed forge]

I remember watching a video about those. Anthomnia probably

[acoustic osprey]

yea

https://tenor.com/view/gosling-sad-gosling-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-snow-gosling-snow-gif-6845320348811377304

[hexed forge]

If this HT doesn't include the new GUTS stuff then this will be one sad Christmas without lore..

[acoustic osprey]

i won't be surprised
I know we're always on the tailend of gifts here

have to hope sometimes
but
yeah, not feeling it this year

[kindred bobcat]

Yeah but it was pretty close from the footage I’ve seeen

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-why-why-are-we-still-here-just-to-suffer-gif-17485467

[acoustic osprey]

it was pretty simple still
had a gun, had a simple skin
and you could shoot

it was more advanced than current Gen2s, yeah.
but yeah, nothing more.

They had loot on a devbuild, which Tribals could get.

a lootbox*

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/david-tennant-cry-doctor-who-sad-rain-gif-11794483

[acoustic osprey]

Island 1 and Island 2

[hexed forge]

oh

WHY

I thought I was on to some cool coincidence..

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

I was going to tie it to this..

[acoustic osprey]

it could be
but it was most likely Island one and two

[kindred bobcat]

Oh it must’ve beee a dev build I was thinking of then cus I was thinking of the one where tribals could maybe craft simple stuff or at least shoot arrows and also there was carno AI or players I’m not sure

[hexed forge]

Between Island 1 and 2?

So itself is an island? Or some sort of transportation thing that connects two islands.

[acoustic osprey]

no
it was just a facility

contrast to Gateway in Evrima which is also an island

it might've been on an island
but that island wouldn't've been Gateway

[kindred bobcat]

Any signs of a lore hunt this HT?

[acoustic osprey]

ha... no
but yes, to some degree

[hexed forge]

The new glance sheets might be in the game.

But thats not certain.

[acoustic osprey]

to find the new glance sheets, yeah

[acoustic osprey]

But thats not certain.

yep 😔

whenever the GUTS Hub comes, that is when we search

[hexed forge]

"Rear connection facility between Island 1 and 2"

What the hell is that supposed to mean..

[acoustic osprey]

the hope
seeing as it has been some time and it seems likely they'll release GUTS bit by bit

is that it is next HT

[kindred bobcat]

For dilo, herra, dibble and Maia?

[acoustic osprey]

i imagine it may be that the two islands are pretty close together

[hexed forge]

We dont know which dinos, it could be all of the species, who knows.

Might just be a singular rex glance sheet lol

[acoustic osprey]

potentially yeah

i hope there will be more than just glance sheets
BUT
no hopes for that
just would be a nice cherry on top

[kindred bobcat]

That would be cool

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmmm

[hexed forge]

Eviction notice !!

We must know why an AE employee is getting evicted... uh.. from his Gas Station... yay.

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[kindred bobcat]

But having Rex or allo glance sheets would set my hype into overdrive and make everyone say that they will come this HT even more

[hexed forge]

Divorce papers too !

[acoustic osprey]

just like the last Lore Hunt

[hexed forge]

I want all the species

[acoustic osprey]

give the lorians a hunt
to find things not even for themselves, but for the general isle community

[hexed forge]

Even though it wasnt lore, it was still pretty fun.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[hexed forge]

The entire lore community working together,

No Ptera lives or Galli lives were harmed in the lore hunt.. I think.

[acoustic osprey]

just a bummer that we got basically nothing from it
but it was a cool first test, i do hope Don goes for another

i imagine it would be VERY hard to try and make it better, correctly

how do you orchestrate something like that?
how do you get the community to find it? Do you let them find it first OR do you tell them first?
how BIG will it (the hunt) be and go for?
what rewards (answers to lore, more questions to lore!) will be obtained from such hunt?

there are many factors that i imagine would take a lot of energy and time out of one man
makes me kinda hope for a dedicated 'story' team

but, then again, the more minds
the less it will be of the original idea

would it be a good thing or bad thing? Who would know
but Don is the director, so he would still have final choice anyways

[thin vine]

we know they want to add 'unlockables' at some point for visiting parts of the island, atleast in the forms of patterns. maybe visiting certain human bases could grant you an audio recording detailing a specific event that happened at said human base, allowing more insight to how AE operates and encouraging players to visit these buildings for either a) patterns, or b) audio logs. you encourage both dinosaur focused players to visit, while also encouraging lore lovers to hunt down all the audio logs.

honestly i wouldnt even mind if Don himself voices most of the tapes

[hexed forge]

I hope in future lore hunts, Don somehow.. atleasts hints at us needing to find something.

However, we always check things. For example how people tried finding that Rex ambush spot at the end of the "Familiar Faces" trailer. Just for the pure satisfaction of going "Oh look, this is where the rex was!!" So will Don need to actually tell us? Just release a random video and everyone will hunt for that location like vultures looking for food.

[acoustic osprey]

this isn't really a lore hunt though

i mean like proper scavenger hunt
clues, pieces, but a bit of random chaos in the middle

i don't mind finding generaly lore tidbits though amongst the island though like what you have described

which reminds me of the Batman Arkham game series

[thin vine]

i may write up a feedback for that. we dont really get any lore feedback nowadays

[acoustic osprey]

atleasts hints at us needing to find something
I do hope that hinting can be directed through things like a YouTube video, say.

Something not impossible to be alerted about
but a keen eye might pick up on it

[hexed forge]

I want gen2s themselves to be able to find tapes like these. I dont want dinosaurs to be able to do this.

Makes people actually play humans instead of "Oh Ima just go galli and visit each base in 30 minutes!!"

[acoustic osprey]

sure, do go for it
it is a nice worldbuilding thing

just don't really label it as a lore hunt though!!!

[hexed forge]

AND MAKE SURE TO SPECIFIC FOR GEN2 ONLY..

[thin vine]

hmm. maybe dinosaurs visit for patterns and humans for tapes? but i think you should be able to access the tapes you've found in a menu regardless of what you are, simply for QOL stuff.

so if you discover tape #2 as human, and then a month later you're a hypsi and want to relisten, you can

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind if stuff like that got built into a sort of locked game library, in the game menu screen
like a secret 'lore library' section that only unlocks once you get something

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah, you should be able to access the tapes that you found already regardless of what you are. I mean like.. Actually finding those tapes..

[hexed forge]

AE_EIP_DATABASE

AE_EIP_USER_1241249182401528_DATABASE

Something like that idk

[acoustic osprey]

prior to getting anything
you have the standard

play
settings
etc

but once you get a tape, say
it shows:

play
settings
etc
AE_CORE_ARCHIVE

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

TOMB database

AE CORE is just an old Evrima reference i doubt will ever come back lol

[thin vine]

do you think it would be better if they all have some sort of overarching story retelling the basic principles of what led to AE abandoning gateway? or would it be better to have it be an anthology simply describing personal/buisness/dinosaur related incidents that have happened at each human structure througout the years of gateway being active?

[acoustic osprey]

we know have the cool ARCHIVE (7)

[hexed forge]

You are accessing your own database though since you found it !!

Would that still count as tomb?

TOMB_EIP_DATABASE

Instead of AE?

[acoustic osprey]

something like ERRANT-291
individual stories / events / people
which of whom will never be referred to again

but
infer an overarching story / theme / idea

(at least for a majority of things)

[hexed forge]

Well, just

AE_TOMB_EIP_DATABASE I assume lol

[acoustic osprey]

too many words

have to make it simple

[thin vine]

im thinking but to think more, is the existence of EIPs generally viewed as cruel? inhumane? or do you think AE employees would just view it as part of the job?

[acoustic osprey]

like

ENTER_ARCHIVE(7)

then the logging into the archive/database will show that you're logging into AE's TOMB

[thin vine]

im envisioning an overarching story that slowly reveals how messed up EIP's actually are, which eventually reveals that every animal that spawns normally is replicated and is infact an EIP

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, yeah that would be better.

[thin vine]

because frankly thousand life contracts sound more like torture than work

[acoustic osprey]

iirc, i said it was like Astronauts, and Don (iirc!!) said something it was similar to such
they, generally, want to or are doing it by consent

but
the actual feeling of being an EIP?
It would be insanity

Gen1s loosing their minds
You, a profile, having to live hundreds of hundreds of different bodies, loved ones, emotions, BRAINS, etc etc

i imagine it would be more than psychologically taxing

[thin vine]

i see

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
start it simple
then
you're falling into the thick of the 'library'

[thin vine]

so generally you would be on board with overarching story about EIP with the grand reveal at the end?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[thin vine]

im imagining 12 or so tapes with a final tape unlocked once you get all 12, connecting the dots

[hexed forge]

More tapes, MOREE

I need atleast 100+ tapes.

[acoustic osprey]

50/50
mixture of both would be good

we know Don wants to have a majority of things being just a one off story with an overarching idea or theme
unless that is what you mean
because basically all of these characters are said to only really have one appearance - like with AUGUSTUS or ERRANT-291

where the exception is very very important things or very accidental reference (like with SHIRLEY just being in the far audio background of AUGUSTUS)

[acoustic osprey]

12 for the olympians
woohoo

[hexed forge]

For each map

[acoustic osprey]

the final one
technically 13

is like how there are technically 13 star signs

(aka. You unlock the big/bigger picture)

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
I wouldn't mind if there were tons of small random ones

but then 12 explicit special tapes focused around a proper large theme, like what sammy has said

[thin vine]

oh yah each tape would feature its own character and their own 3-6 minute long story going on about the changes happening in AE. ideally they would be chronological, starting off with AE seemingly being a pretty normal genetic company, and by the end of the 12th tape you should ideally have a very confused yet disturbed picture of AE, and then the 13th should make you realize "oh. oh god"

[acoustic osprey]

that would be cool to actually give us a "timeline" without having it being repetitive with the same cast, etc

[hexed forge]

Many special tapes, just, some are categorized under something else.

Some maybe under a particular thing, "The Matriarch" (12-13 tapes)

"Hyper-" (6 tapes)
"Neuro" etc etc etc etc

All telling a different story

[acoustic osprey]

realize "oh. oh god"

this feels like what Don's poll was on twitter
it would be the best way to implement that without having to make a storymode

because that was supposed to be for the end of the 'story'
being that the 13th tape would be the end of the timeline

[hexed forge]

But some small ones like "Incident report_4421" would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

I don't know
i wouldn't have many special tapes

it is desensitising
keep a majority to AUGUSTUS level
so you KNOW what is a special tape when you see it - because it is different and unique from the rest

if you have everything being overwhelming
by the end, it won't really be much fun

imagine if the Dibble video was the exact same format as AUGUSTUS
and a SHIRLEY one would be exactly the same format as AUGUSTUS

[hexed forge]

Hopefully for the special ones you have to do sort of like a... "Scavenger hunt" to find it. Gotta solve puzzles, find clues, just to find it.

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind
just make it worth it

make the journey strong
so the reward is extra better

damn why are we talking about this!!

better write down all this @thin vine haha, put it in feedback!!
and make it good

[acoustic osprey]

(this'll be years before we get to this point)

[hexed forge]

Yea

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully i don't become like the rest of the older lore members

[hexed forge]

haha, lets hope Islecord doesnt get wiped again

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1289336513166835763/Car_Garn47.gif

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-gladiator-movie-fight-together-gif-9062555644194132225

[thin vine]

im going to start writing the document in a few minutes. gotta get something to drink first

[hexed forge]

A document..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-not-entertained-maximus-gladiator-aren't-you-amused-am-i-not-funny-gif-2396413337976800815

[acoustic osprey]

pov Don after lore hunt lol

[acoustic osprey]

yay!!
good luck!

[hexed forge]

We were indeed entertained, however, Wheres the loreee

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/xx-gif-15660269

I was atleast hoping the camera was moved somewhere, maybe in perimeter, who knows.

I hope it comes back.

Just so we can see it when exploring, like a trophy,

"Haha, we found that... fun times...."

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[hexed forge]

Lol, found an old image of the Colossus rework,

I wonder how it looks like now. If it was even worked on at all during Evrima.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurrassic-park-jurassic-park-jurassic-park-movie-richard-attenborough-hammond-gif-24925890

[hexed forge]

oh

[cerulean summit]

That don't look like a dino to me

[hexed forge]

Because its not a dino

[cerulean summit]

That ain't a person

Is it a Gen 1?

[hexed forge]

This

Its a humanoid version of the Hyper strain basically.

Called Colossus

[cerulean summit]

Well he doesn't seem like a very nice fellow

Also that's really cool

[hexed forge]

Part of the Trinity, basically the 3 humanoid versions of each strain.

[cerulean summit]

Are those still a thing?

[hexed forge]

Pretty sure, yes

However their designs might change

[cerulean summit]

Hypers are still going to be implemented? That'll be neat

[hexed forge]

Yep, Strains will be a feature ingame.

[cerulean summit]

I just hope it won't require you to be nested over and over again like how getting mutation slots currently works.

[hexed forge]

Guess we'll see in the future.

I'm atleast hoping for the process to be challenging.

[cerulean summit]

Oh yes definitely. Wouldn't want everyone running around with hyper rexes

The thing with nesting is its hard to get an egg

I like the mutation and congentital system, I just wish I could experience it lol. I mostly play solo

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-thumbs-up-gif-4923420400618348999

[knotty locust]

inb4 "how to become hyper rex the isle guide" shows up

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[strange shell]

I would bet money said guide will pop out even before there is actually a way to become hyper rex implemented into the game

[acoustic osprey]

press O L Y M P U S in the menu!!

[hexed forge]

Hello guys today I will be showing you an EASYYY way to become a HYPO!!! rex in The Isle EVRIMAAA. Ok so first please make sure to join my discord serve-

[icy onyx]

yes, hypo

[hexed forge]

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[acoustic osprey]

Daviid!!

[rare pivot]

Getting the eggs to work as a respawn will incentivise solo's to meet up and make a nest, and lets you get extra mutations you can't get as a solo, a shame nest respawning isnt a thing

[cerulean summit]

Yeah. The thing is only other players benefit from being nested in. You as an adult don’t get any bonuses or mutations. I’m not against the way it currently works, I think it’s neat. But having to be a 7th gen dino to have all mutation slots filled or qualify for a strain seems like too much.

[rare pivot]

I absolutely agree, and it gets more egregious the longer the grow time, imagine how long it takes ingame to max traits on a Rex or something

Deino is already pretty rough and only the 2nd gen is functional lol

[lethal moat]

I hope hypers don’t spawn in the normal way, I’d like an intro cinematic, press “e” to break glass and escape from an abandoned facility

[cerulean summit]

I’d imagine hypers are more akin to a gaining one or more unlockable mutations rather than you just spawning as one.

[lethal moat]

I’d rather it not be like that, sounds far too easy, and I don’t think anything that wasn’t intended to be a hyper from the start should be able to survive the physical transformation

[cerulean summit]

What do you mean by spawning then? Spawning seems way easier than gaining multiple unlockable mutations

[lethal moat]

You do multiple things over the course of several lives to earn it, and that also makes it more difficult to track down exactly what all it was that helped you get to spawn as one, then you have an option to spawn in a locked facility and break out and either grow from a lil baby hyper, or just spawn within that facility as an adult hyper, but you’re in a vat of some sort and need to break out, something like that

That’s my thoughts on how it should go at least

[cerulean summit]

Hmmm. That’d be tough because you’d have to commit to one server and each server would have to have its own database for each player. Or would the memory of the necessary steps taken be linked to the player instead of the server?

[strange shell]

btw I was thinking, I think the only way to have the way to obtain a hyper truly unkown is so have it change seasonally without announcement
But now that I've said it it's not gonna work

[lethal moat]

Individual servers, and it should be tough

[ornate comet]

People are just gonna log if they know a hyper is coming

Starving the hyper out faster and ending their reign before it even started

And the person who got the hyper will just be like dang that was a waste. We just gotta wait and see how the system will work tho

[hexed forge]

Breaking out of a lab after somehow unlocking it seems possible. (Breaking out as a juvenile freshspawn, and then after maybe hitting elder you start growing into x strain)

Since we know the interesting specimens are the ones that came from a lab rather than nested in

So doubt it would be tied to nesting mutations, atleast from what we know so far.

[lethal moat]

As far as we know thus far, we have a very small sample size of dinosaurs

[patent ginkgo]

<@&933486433342222376> looks like this got spammed in a lot of channels

[hexed forge]

Yeah thats a bot

[patent ginkgo]

It’s even in v3 screenshots

Thanks rumple (I think) should be all

[fast forge]

I don't know if I like the "breaking out of a lab" scenario

I think I'd prefer a situation where you have to find something, a macguffin that unlocks the ability to grow into a strain

idk neuro goo in a lab?
eat enough strain plants that you turn hyper?
infected by zombies to become a zombie tisso?

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

Would be kinda fun if the zombie plague was just a general thing like we've already seen, and getting infected at elder stage is required to go full tisso or something

[meager junco]

Press E to break out of VAT

[fast forge]

like if the zombie plague we saw was just a precursor

[hexed forge]

That seems too easy imo

Way too easy

It might be related to the Elder replication process, with your mutations becoming stronger every replicated life, and then maybe you will stack it so much that your next replicated life you will be able to spawn as a dino that can evolve into a strain.

[nimble fractal]

I am full-on only by becoming a strain made by humans, that have to gather 9999 different materials beforehand to prepare a strain injection
Why would humans do this?

Gameplay and lore-wise, the humans at some point might get a task/an opportunity to find something so powerful that they need, for example, "a blood of a N-strain dino"
And to get that, they have to capture the dino first, bring it to the lab and turn it into the strain type. And while it is contained, they can take as many samples as they need
But it would be boring for dino to sit at one place. And if humans are not careful.. you can break free and escape from the lab
Humans get something powerful
In return, a monster wanders around The Island.

[nimble fractal]

Replication error/mutations stacking sounds nice too but
Wouldn't it being too easy either? And what happens after? Do the mutations reset?

[hexed forge]

That seems abusable tbh,

Like on the level of clan-abusable. Clans controlling the flow of strain injections and only injecting other clan members/friends.