isle-lore-theories

[low scarab]

Big “evil-ish” company trying to save the world in a morally questionable way

Featuring creepy robot, weird humanoid monsters, and peoples brains being turned into code

@lethal moat did I cover it all decently?

[lethal moat]

Sounds good to me

[fast forge]

also
gestures vaguely in the direction of the strains
that stuff

[low scarab]

Shoulda mentioned strain plants

That’s where peak lore resides

[hexed forge]

Spiro is coming back? maybe? Probably not? Who knows? LORE?

[lethal moat]

It’s something, also the propaganda posters

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

Maybe it’ll be a fun dev blog?

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

[pseudo fable]

Apollan K-Trifolium?

[lethal moat]

I like your funny words magic man, care to elaborate?

Hold up, that’s a type of flower

@patent ginkgo

https://tenor.com/view/penguins-of-madagascar-skipper-kowalski-analysis-analysis-madagascar-gif-23546606

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-shook-shocked-gif-13010143

clover

[hexed forge]

Is this a plant..

[lethal moat]

Is the K for potassium or is it some other designation?

[patent ginkgo]

soo, a type of clover, sounds named after AE

[hexed forge]

Imagine its a plant strain

[patent ginkgo]

i mean...

[hexed forge]

Could it be on Spiro?

Spiro being just a giant plant testing ground

[patent ginkgo]

i think youre looking too far into it, but I'd love that greenhouse of horrors

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-the-plant-vegans-gif-23768796

[patent ginkgo]

no

im assuming that plant is rather important to AE

[lethal moat]

Could be one of the first patented genetically altered organisms?

[pseudo fable]

Apollan Ktisis.

Their designation for plants.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kowalski-noted-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-1306663699157096677

[hexed forge]

My first google search.

[lethal moat]

Hehehe

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[patent ginkgo]

yup

[hexed forge]

yay

[lethal moat]

Makes sense, if it’s made, ktisis is a good word

[patent ginkgo]

i looked that up but also found this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisis

[lethal moat]

Jolly, we get to make a plant section on the lore doc now

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[hexed forge]

Lore document expansion.

I wonder if the Gatorade bush is part of the K designation

[lethal moat]

Wonder if animals get something different than Ktisis

[patent ginkgo]

maybe, but likely not its current form, seeing as that may be a placeholder

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, yeah.

[patent ginkgo]

time to deep dive into trifolium info

[hexed forge]

I don't find it a coincidence that Don told us a name of a plant while we were talking about spiro coming back.

But who knows, maybe it is a coincidence..

[lethal moat]

Or the dev blog

[acoustic osprey]

A temperate plant!

[patent ginkgo]

i find it funny that rumple pinged me literally as i was gonna ask for botany lore in discussion

[patent ginkgo]

very widespread, actually

[hexed forge]

I trust the plant man ^

Arrow is meant to go this way.

[acoustic osprey]

But they also come from europe

[patent ginkgo]

many places, europe, the americas, africa, south america, but primarily northern hemisphere

[acoustic osprey]

You have to pick one place of origin jolly

Wouldn't it be fun if Spiro was turned into the reserve

[patent ginkgo]

yes yes, they originated in europe. but we cant rule out more tropical orgins of this specifically. though i think its less of a clear-cut answer on phylogeny for this, as genetic engineering can impact things significantly.

one important thing to note, though, is that clovers are common weeds/native plants in many areas, and that they, being beans, put nitrogen into the soil

which is VERY important for agriculture

[acoustic osprey]

But they also come from Europe....

[patent ginkgo]

supplies a major nutrient for crops

[hexed forge]

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-surprised-unbelievable-surprised-at-computer-shocked-at-computer-gif-1790140920113201224

[hexed forge]

Hmmm..

Perhaps AEs version massively increases the amount of nitrogen that it puts into the soil.

[patent ginkgo]

very much could be

[lethal moat]

So you’re saying AE could have made a plant that’s a super growth assist for crop rotation

[hexed forge]

Maybe.

[patent ginkgo]

though, i will say, it works with bacteria to do so

[acoustic osprey]

Would make sense with ktisis

[patent ginkgo]

bacteria... strains...

[hexed forge]

Yeah,

Spiro coming back was DEFINITELY not on my bingo card this year... Including botany lore.

[acoustic osprey]

It was on mine

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-know-something-i-dont-doug-the-head-snatch-what-do-you-know-is-there-something-i-am-not-aware-of-that-you-are-gif-21722502

[patent ginkgo]

so, important trifolium stuff

• common, hardy, diverse, widespread group of plants
• affix nitrogen into soil, being an insanely important aspect of agriculture (think alfalfa)
• does so with the help of bacteria (relation to strains?)
• major, major flower for bees (which, as we know, are having a tough time around the world irl)

[lethal moat]

Genetic killer bees in the sanctuaries, it’s all coming together

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-disney-the-emperor’s-new-groove-emperor's-new-groove-disney’s-emperor’s-new-groove-gif-9209845644877110421

[hexed forge]

Carno sized bees on Spiro when.

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-rizz-bee-eyebrow-bee-kiss-gif-13467304041985061911

[hexed forge]

[patent ginkgo]

@short zenith

[lethal moat]

I have a sudden urge to light fire to the greenhouses

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

I will light you on fire again

[hexed forge]

Hunger games PTSD.

[hexed forge]

Why is this version so.. blue..

[patent ginkgo]

edited by someone

[lethal moat]

You won’t

[patent ginkgo]

AE will

i need only sit back and let them go through the procedures

[lethal moat]

Bet

[low scarab]

Finally something on plants interesting…

[acoustic osprey]

Not really
Just that I've always wanted to see Spiro coming back

Just... completely redone

I just hope it is temperature
Good excuse to make something unique

[hexed forge]

Temperature

But yeah, it would be cool.

[patent ginkgo]

would love a proper pacific northwest vibe

[hexed forge]

Maybe a redwood biome that isnt in a dome.

[patent ginkgo]

dominated by moss, conifers, and ferns

[pseudo fable]

[hexed forge]

Like this?

[acoustic osprey]

I don't mind the more grey vibe from Legacy temperate though

[patent ginkgo]

grey and green is a good color scheme

[acoustic osprey]

If they can try to bake Spiro's lighting for such

Would be horrific

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-office-fantastic-great-gif-25279163

[lethal moat]

Turn Spiro into a wasteland

[patent ginkgo]

australian bush map

would also be fun

[hexed forge]

I wonder if they made the entirety of spiro smaller.

Maybe smaller than Gateway or just around the same size.

But if its the same size as before, then, wonder how they would make the giant area suitable for 100 players.

[lethal moat]

I am interested to see what’s changed, how are the docks looking, and what new structures are there

[hexed forge]

I guess we will find out... soon?

[low scarab]

Guys I think don is making ae propaganda

[hexed forge]

Probably.

**We want YOU. In Apollo. **

Sign the contract TODAY

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-gif-22407760

[hexed forge]

Uncle Sam lied

[low scarab]

Sign the thousand life contract today

[lethal moat]

Bet

[bold crater]

Gotta listen to their mascot! thatmayormaynotexist

[lethal moat]

Send me to tartarus, show me what’s there, you won’t

[bold crater]

🫵

[hexed forge]

Ben

[hexed forge]

These are my hopes for the devblog lorewise:

-UI sneakpeaks
-GUTS sneakpeaks
-Spiro information
-Halloween video (Maybe a lore video!)

[acoustic osprey]

That's a lot of hope

[hexed forge]

If you had hope for Spiro to come back then my levels of hope are perfectly acceptable.

[acoustic osprey]

No

[hexed forge]

I will come back to this message in two days and see how much came true.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-only-natural-natural-palpatine-prequel-gif-20003800

[hexed forge]

Halloween video is probably extremely likely. Hopefully UI sneakpeaks since we were supposed to see it in phase three this October. Don said that we might get GUTS in the devblog. And since Don revealed Spiro is coming back on discord then I can see it being in the devblog as atleast 1 sentence of some sorts.

None of these are close to impossible. Imo.

[acoustic osprey]

UI is a maybe
Video is likely, or just roadma0
GUTS is less likely seeing as we got some already
Spiro is quite unlikely

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-well-find-out-jacob-dutton-harrison-ford-1923-we-will-know-that-gif-13924432661313918615

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-blade-runner-scrolling-gif-23683039

[low scarab]

I would love to see a non tropical map

Like v3 or thenhaw a little more temperate

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[acoustic osprey]

found something interesting from one of the Primal Carnage Roblox discords
https://docs.google.com/document/d/108SYFyW_S9C1-kwFPIPLO1y7O5wX9szmdLqgV_pbUGI/edit?tab=t.0

basically, they have a decipherable classified internal lore document
almost reminds me of the TCAM Hunt when we had to decipher what the numbers etched into the TCAM was

makes me excited for future potential Lore Hunts that Don may do in the future, if we're lucky and he found the TCAM Hunt successful

[patent ginkgo]

Wikipedia sums it up pretty well

[modern rover]

wow this is awesome lore

[patent ginkgo]

I made an alteration to our general lore doc with regard to recent botany stuff

I’ll work on updating my doc relatively soon

[lethal moat]

I’ll check that out after class

[patent ginkgo]

[knotty locust]

the dudes posted it in 3 channels including this one

he may or may not be a bot

[fading moat]

Lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-jumpscare-jump-fall-animal-gif-11415143013926375079

[lethal moat]

@patent ginkgo Lore doc is up to date

[patent ginkgo]

Nice, thanks

[mortal hound]

[fast forge]

these are the new red and blue plants?

[fading moat]

Crimson, Violet, and Azure

[fast forge]

Oh trifolium... hence why jolly was talking about clover...

But that's definitely not a clover

Apollan so... "of Apollo"?

So a plant that doesn't look at all like clover, named K-Trifolium

I have no idea what the K could be

[lethal moat]

https://www.google.com/imgres?q=bush clover&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Ffinegardening.s3.tauntoncloud.com%2Fapp%2Fuploads%2F2022%2F08%2F02153315%2FFG207HA-Lespedeza-thunbergii-Gibraltar-RGH3_crtsy-Chicago-Botanic-Garden-700x394.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.finegardening.com%2Farticle%2Ftips-to-improve-bush-clover-performance&docid=UIvXrwhrmm4UIM&tbnid=Fd7w6-44uhKwHM&vet=12ahUKEwiemLe8ybaJAxWPkIkEHeR4LhgQM3oFCIABEAA..i&w=700&h=394&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwiemLe8ybaJAxWPkIkEHeR4LhgQM3oFCIABEAA

[lethal moat]

Ktisis

[fast forge]

what is that

[lethal moat]

It's a greek word that means something along the lines of founding or creation

So, Apollan Ktisis, the designation for plants, means creation of Apollo

[fast forge]

and the current model is just a placeholder right? don said they will eventually look weird

[lethal moat]

Maybe, I don't remember

[fast forge]

I guess I just missed the part where Don was in this chat yesterday entirely... thanks for catching me up

[lethal moat]

Anti-vehicle barrier

[strange shell]

nice theory

[snow jasper]

thats a big gate

[lethal moat]

Is that a vending machine?

[snow jasper]

i can already see this causing so many annoying collisions if people drive through here

[strange shell]

What I see is that part of the "W" from "SLOW" is cut out
Which probably has a very deep lore implication

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

Not Trifolium

[scarlet verge]

There's no overgrowth on this building at all. I wonder why some buildings are still kept up and some they returned to nature

[lethal moat]

My guess is the island was abandoned slowly, not all at once

[scarlet verge]

But are the bases still operational or just a skeleton crew?

[lethal moat]

We know the island isn’t operational by AE

[static condor]

yeah doesntmatter87

[pseudo fable]

Spoilers: Dev level.

[lethal moat]

We’ve been seeing more map stuff recently, it’s nice to watch

[snow jasper]

i wonder what its for as in both purpose and island

[pseudo fable]

Subterranean logistics.

[patent ginkgo]

Ah very nice

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/song-aang-atla-hippie-sing-gif-13853815

[snow jasper]

i see

[patent ginkgo]

Looking forward to GUTS

Or should I say, looking down

[lethal moat]

I can see GUTS being a necessity if rival companies have access to satellites they can use to spy on AE

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/diggy-diggy-hole-digging-hole-brothers-of-the-mine-rejoice-dwarf-the-hobbit-dwarf-gif-4112040493305378481

[lethal moat]

Less convenient and more “this needs to be done for security reasons”

[scarlet verge]

Do we know if GUTS and Tartarus are linked in any way?

[snow jasper]

if so, it wouldn't be without more than one checkpoint if I had to guess

[scarlet verge]

Yeah I'm just wondering if it's a stop or if those are two completely separate things

[lethal moat]

I like to imagine GUTS sort of touches on everything

[patent ginkgo]

I don’t think we’ve gotten any hard confirmation but… presumably

[low scarab]

That would be my guess

[hexed forge]

GUTS hub entrance I assume.

Maybe at Docks

[hexed forge]

Probably

If Tartarus is underground then its extremely likely imo.

(Which Tartarus probably is underground lmao )

I wonder when we will get a finalized version of K-Trifolium.

[patent ginkgo]

Made another small format edit to the botany section cause the font size got messed up

[hexed forge]

yahoo

What would AE use Spiro for? Its a pretty big island. Another giant open-testing facility?

[patent ginkgo]

Could end up being the hunting lodge

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, there must be a "Wall of nope" then.

Its actually possible that its the hunting lodge island.

Don saw our hopes for the Hunting Lodge map and then says "Screw it, make spiro into that"

[lethal moat]

It's possible, but I doubt it

[ornate comet]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but are the species documents gonna be found in game? I swear I heard that

[hexed forge]

I hope we get some info on spiro this year, if not this devblog.

[patent ginkgo]

Yes

[hexed forge]

You are correct.

[ornate comet]

Mmmmm ok ok

[hexed forge]

But we don't know if its going to be any new species sheets that we didnt see before. It might be just the OG 3 that we already saw.

[ornate comet]

I just had a random idea that humans (or just players in general) could find them out in the world and after that they could show up in a database in the main menu

[hexed forge]

I HAD THAT IDEA TOO!

[ornate comet]

Wanted to see if it was at least plausible lol

[hexed forge]

I love that idea, I hope theres some sort of similar version of it ingame..

[ornate comet]

The main menu could have a list of all assets in the game including ai, and give a short description and maybe a tutorial. However there could be a large redacted section or something for each playable that is only filled when the information is found in game

Picture it looking like the blue and black computer stuff from the roadmap and trail cam videos

[hexed forge]

"PERSONAL_EIP_DATABASE"

Unlock asset descriptions by growing that asset, it could be broken into multiple stages "Juvenile Asset Description", "Adult Asset Description" , etc. I know this isnt really a "Tutorial" because in order to unlock it you would actually have to play... BUT. If you fail. Lets say you die at the Juvenile stage. You unlock the Juvenile description. It may have some tips for your next life that you can use.

Learn through death.

[ornate comet]

You should be able to access it while in queue as well

And for the juicy lore you’d need to find the documents because dying and getting the species descriptions just gives you biological info and stuff

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Its an excellent idea if executed properly imo.

Several games from my experience have it. Some even have speedruns to see who fills out the database 100%.

[acoustic osprey]

vending machine!

[hexed forge]

J...J...J-Coco-Cola!!!

Time to find the vending machine on the marketplace.

[lethal moat]

I was right!

[hexed forge]

Whats this?

Fire extinguisher box thing?

[ornate comet]

Looks like it

Or fire axe

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[ornate comet]

In this hypothetical database, what if it tracked your stats as that playable

[acoustic osprey]

that would be something cool and unique

you don't really see stats in newer games these days

[hexed forge]

yes.

[ornate comet]

Like total distance traveled, times you nest or got nested in, deaths and by what dino

“Most often killed by: Omni”

[hexed forge]

Yeah.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

So much potential in this database system.

[ornate comet]

Could put some funny stats too like liters of blood lost lol

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ted-lasso-potential-1x01-gif-20622849

[fast forge]

Joja Cola?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-gif-14634295

I only know Ja Cola

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stardew-valley-cat-cute-witch-stardew-gif-2910009032257887965

[fast forge]

It's a Stardew Valley thing

[hexed forge]

I see.

[acoustic osprey]

why

[hexed forge]

Because I say so.

[acoustic osprey]

I see I see

[bold crater]

Replicator Observation

[lethal moat]

Perhappenchance

[bold crater]

I want to know more about it
I must.

Replicator is spooky in the best way.

https://tenor.com/view/gla-dos-suk-gif-26015574

-# (yes I know it's probably not a cool singular robotic form but let me dream)

[lethal moat]

Halloween replicator lore 🙏

[hexed forge]

I really hope that the halloween video is a lore video.

[lethal moat]

If there is one

[bold crater]

We find the Olympus Transmitter
and it's just a typewriter

and we've been in the weird dino tubes this WHOLE TIME!
....or something.

[lethal moat]

Bum bum buuuuum

[bold crater]

Olympus Transmitter is still a thing, right? 😮
I remember it used to be a channel here.

[lethal moat]

Yes

[bold crater]

Good, good.

[hexed forge]

There probably is tbh.

Atleast I hope so

[bold crater]

I remember the "your reality may become temporarily unstable" stuff from it.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/morse-code-gif-14831987

[hexed forge]

Its on the Errant sheet !

[bold crater]

Aaaah!

[acoustic osprey]

Just not its transmissions

[bold crater]

:c

[acoustic osprey]

Wiped!

[bold crater]

Wait, do you mean it's past transmissions we knew of are gone?
Or it transmitting at all?

[hexed forge]

I think hes talking about the first one lol.

[bold crater]

Mkay just makin' sure.

[hexed forge]

2172...

Its offline in that year.. if that year is the truth..

[bold crater]

[hexed forge]

Thats the year that Errant-291 takes place in !!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-is-it-though-thor-bruce-banner-gif-14242312

[hexed forge]

Exactly !

[snow jasper]

So much for it being a transmitter 😤

[hexed forge]

No transmissions..yet.

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hexed forge]

What new mutations?

Was NHJ not a mistake..

[lethal moat]

Neato

[patent ginkgo]

niagara?

[hexed forge]

Uh

Niagara falls on Gateway confirmed.

[patent ginkgo]

Might refer to that one large waterfall near east, or just all waterfalls in general

[zenith frigate]

its a plugin i think

[patent ginkgo]

Hmm

Yeah seems like it

[sonic rampart]

Niagara is a feature of UE5

[patent ginkgo]

Righto

[hexed forge]

What's the feature?

[patent ginkgo]

particle system is all i bothered to read

which doesnt say much lol

[hexed forge]

Yahoo.

[hexed forge]

I'm interested in these new mutations..

I assume that it's the NHJ mutations. But.. how is it an intended thing?

[patent ginkgo]

i mean, remember that don said he wrote stuff for it

but now i think we can properly assume lore importance in the name

[hexed forge]

What does NHJ mean.

[hexed forge]

Yeah

I have a feeling that the N stands for Neuro

[fast forge]

I believe he said he wrote protocols for dealing with an outbreak

[patent ginkgo]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[patent ginkgo]

aye aye

[hexed forge]

nay

[strange sinew]

Maybe the n stands for something else

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

@acoustic osprey post it here !

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/31982ebf3ed4375a5f3185890470712a

[hexed forge]

Yahoo

I wonder if we get to know the meaning of NHJ through the protocol paper that Don made for Halloween.

[acoustic osprey]

damn, the other dome is now gone

[ornate comet]

What do you guys think of a mutation that lessons the damage debuff at low hp

[zenith frigate]

This feels like a game of prop hunt

this looks like part of a beehive

theres 3 vending machines

all with qr codes

drooling

I found another

mmmm vending machines

[fast forge]

it's a part of the case of the disassembled computer, right next to it

probably a plastic back panel, old computers were weird

I've got it

NHJ stands for Non-Homologous End Joining

...just kidding, I typed it into google scholar and that's all I found
I don't think a mutation related to IR sensitivity in nematodes is relevant to this game...

[ornate comet]

Gave me an idea of like some human bases being for food growth or food storage and are often raided by dinosaurs looking for some fancy plants to eat

[acoustic osprey]

it does lol

was going around earlier today when update dropped

found that room

immediately said
"oh this must be the tech nerd room"

then i saw the rubbish bin
and said "no it can't be ... tech nerds don't have bins"

[hexed forge]

Lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-today-todays-the-day-excited-gif-13929260

[low scarab]

You guys have too much hope

[lethal moat]

Devblog hype

[low scarab]

I am very excited though..

[acoustic osprey]

yeah i'm honestly not expecting anything
maybe a halloween short

but nothing lore related

as MUCH as a i hope for a lore video
I doubt it. Sadly.

But i don't mind

[lethal moat]

I doubt lore video, but interesting devblog is on the table

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cloudy-with-a-chance-of-meatballs-enough-to-make-a-grown-man-cry-police-officer-make-a-man-cry-gif-15227532

[spark egret]

Wish it’s gonna be an another teaser with some Dinos claw or shadow to make community go insane again

[lethal moat]

I will ugly cry if that happens

[spark egret]

AHAHAHAHA

[median shuttle]

sometimes lore video drops alongside devblog, remember augustus

[meager junco]

Happy 1 year anniversary Augustus

[low scarab]

Lighting rework plz

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-herrerasaurus-kaperoo-the-isle-evrima-gif-13503017470641764622

[hexed forge]

HAVE HOPE.

I still have hope on a lore video.

[nimble fractal]

Augustus

[meager junco]

Shirley

[hexed forge]

Dean

[young viper]

What an amazing atmosphere, it would be nice to be able to play like this with the yellowish grass stylized as some kind of "savannah"

I don't know how to explain it, but playing with "wild animals" seems really interesting in that kind of atmosphere.

[ornate comet]

Where’s this from

[hexed forge]

Thats spiro,

Probably some old stream.

[ornate comet]

With that lighting it could be a cool Savanna map

Idk if that’s the correct way to spell the biome

[hexed forge]

Savannah

Would it be possible to have different lighting on different maps.

[spark egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-suchomimus-roar-ready-to-smash-gif-22518088

dev blog in 6 minutes and 17 seconds

please

or else

[hexed forge]

Devblog sometime between now and the next 12 hours.

I still have hope for a lore video!

It says Swamps but it spawns pretty much in every MZ/PZ from my experience.

[ornate comet]

Would be cool to have different maps in the future

They don’t necessarily need to be canon

[hexed forge]

Hunting lodge....

[acoustic osprey]

Wish

[low scarab]

Bring back v3/thenyaw in a revamped version I loved the misty temperate forest look and feel it had a certain mood to it

[hexed forge]

The lighting.

[low scarab]

And a smaller map which might mitigate hotspots

[low scarab]

Lighting and color tones man…

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

I want that legacy lighting, but at the same time, Im not sure.

[low scarab]

The reason why people are unsure about bringing back legacy lighting is because it had some graphical issues I promise you if they did a good job modernizing legacy lighting it would make massive improvements although I doubt that it would look correct on a jungle map

[hexed forge]

But.. It wouldnt feel like... Evrima.

[low scarab]

Very true

[hexed forge]

And then Legacy wouldnt feel.. like Legacy. If both have the same lighting.

https://tenor.com/view/decision-gif-24300416

[ornate comet]

This packaging just feels wrong lol

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-4375529952616887689

[acoustic osprey]

make that the new spiro map

[hexed forge]

UI!!!

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[hexed forge]

Okay let me check my bingo card rq.

[acoustic osprey]

oh nice toaster pop up as well

[hexed forge]

2/4

I can still get a 3/4.. maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

The VFX of the menus can be toggled off and there will be a small color selection for menu color.

this is cool
still going with changing the colour of it

i'll probably stick with either blue or red

get my Apollo Red action on

[hexed forge]

Same.

[acoustic osprey]

but nothing else honestly

maybe green sometimes for my legacy nostalgia

but

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-still-holding-on-let-it-go-the-last-jedi-star-wars-gif-25463932

[hexed forge]

Also I feel like this might be unnecessary for normal players.

Perhaps make it not appear for normal players, and maybe add an Admin mode for admins.

It just.. looks ugly for me.. Especially when I cant even click it.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah it is a bit unnecessary

if that could change depending if you're an admin / dev

that, i feel, would be better

[snow jasper]

gen 1 and gen 2 both human?

[lethal moat]

They changed the diet symbols

[acoustic osprey]

it's the same as it is right now

[hexed forge]

Agreed.

[hexed forge]

Or is it a placeholder?

[snow jasper]

yay

[hexed forge]

Aw,

I thought the phase three ping was the Halloween video.

[acoustic osprey]

i hope not

[snow jasper]

Uhhhhhh the new diet icons are going to stretch my biology knowledge on nutrients

[hexed forge]

It looks weird for me.

Or is this The Isle preparing me for Biology.

[acoustic osprey]

just refer to the greek language / maths knowledge

[snow jasper]

no, theres molecular terms
alpha glucose
beta glucose

dont remember there being a Y

[acoustic osprey]

it literally is just
1, 2, 3 (a,b,c)

[snow jasper]

these use the greek alphabet

[acoustic osprey]

your first nutrient slot, alpha
your second nutrient slot, beta
your third nutrient slot, gamma

@snow jasper

[snow jasper]

the former icons had relation to the molecular structure of the nutrients

[median furnace]

i rlly like the new ui tho

[hexed forge]

Theres a Y

[acoustic osprey]

y is gamma, which is the third letter of the greek alphabet

[hexed forge]

oh

[snow jasper]

carbohydrates are usually in hexagon shapes hence the hexagons
proteins are polymer chains hence the S shape, its a chain of amino acids
lipids if i had to assume were referencing phospholipids, but i sucks at lipids

[hexed forge]

Yeah, Im not sure if I like the new icons for the diets.

[acoustic osprey]

it makes sense to me

[hexed forge]

But if thats how its going to be.... I gotta deal with it then.

[snow jasper]

i understood the biology aspect of it

was correct from day one

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/grasshopper-jumping-grasshopper-little-grasshopper-cartoon-animated-gif-8390322

[acoustic osprey]

don't know if it'll match up properly with actively trying to find your diet on the compass though

[hexed forge]

See a bunch of thin Ys on your compass.

Looks weird

[snow jasper]

the problem with using greek letters is that you can have both Alpha and Beta Glucose in Carbohydrates on top of having Alpha and Beta polypeptides

[acoustic osprey]

it likely isn't related to that

seeing as we have gamma as well
it would be far more indicative of numerating your diets

rather than referring to glucose

[hexed forge]

Why.

[fast forge]

oh yeah this kinda meshed with my mental concepts for each diet type so well that I never really thought why they work so well

[acoustic osprey]

?

[hexed forge]

Why do the diets need to be numbered?

[acoustic osprey]

as much as i like the new stuff, the old stuff has a better visual design

[snow jasper]

maths versus science

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

this is what i assume

[hexed forge]

But.. why.

[fast forge]

Legacy player detected

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[hexed forge]

Why make the icons based on the number of hexagons.

And not the actual nutrient.

[acoustic osprey]

number of hexagons?
ah

[snow jasper]

Alright, fine, just have a label thats abbreviates in English
Carbs
Proteins
Lipids

and now bobs your uncle

[hexed forge]

3 Diet hexagons !

[acoustic osprey]

no i am not

[hexed forge]

You are Clark, no longer Bob Smith.

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Old stuff?

There was a diet system prototype in legacy?

[acoustic osprey]

i'm talking about current evrima diets being more visually designed better...

[sonic rampart]

It's entirely possible they just wanted to change the icons, the names might've changed too

[acoustic osprey]

(if you go off the current system we have right now for diets)

[sonic rampart]

I've seen a fair few people confused/mad that meat in general didn't all give proteins because it's meat (in which case the answer is "video game")

[acoustic osprey]

potentially, but having words to replace the icons is still a weird design choice

especially since they have similar silhouettes

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-staring-staring-lost-for-words-did-you-hear-this-gif-26320838

Im lost.

[acoustic osprey]

i LIKE the new diet icons
because it makes sense from a lore pov and it looks cool

but from a design philosophy pov
it is not as good, especially taking the context of how you see the symbols - especially in the compass

[sonic rampart]

He's saying the symbols are better than having the letters from a design perspective

[hexed forge]

I understand now, Thanks.

[lethal moat]

Give them enzymes, contractile proteins, and structural proteins

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-buzz-lightyear-well-i-guess-that-makes-sense-makes-sense-it-makes-sense-gif-23923376

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

Im still holding onto the hope of a halloween video.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-solo-star-wars-no-youre-still-holding-on-gif-15974673

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/never-alfred-batman-gif-26337878

Anyways, imo,

Overall the UI is amazing. I wonder if the character menu has been changed at all.

[acoustic osprey]

still using the same vending machine companies as that one marketplace asset i saw, yay

[hexed forge]

Just give me a few more hours... then we will see who the fool is..

(Im probably going to be the fool)

[hexed forge]

Finest liquid provisions to provide their workers.

[acoustic osprey]

Certain lighting is temporary as we work on the power system and as always, be nice to the tyrannosaur. They're just visiting.

I do hope they will transition into the piss-esque coloured lighting from the concept art

[hexed forge]

Also this feels like some sort of "loading" platform. Kind of like a train stop.

It just feels that way.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, very entrance feeling

[hexed forge]

Different colors of lighting depending on the depth of GUTS?

[acoustic osprey]

Many of you by now have seen the proto-entrances that exist on the island and I've attached some images of their upcoming replacement
glad to see them go though

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

but yeah
it seems like we're not getting mega giant GUTS tunnels
which is sad, but fine

[hexed forge]

Take the bus to work into the depths of GUTS

[snow jasper]

#general-feedback message

this explains the real reason im not a fan of the change
you dont have to vote on it, its just there

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6_9qll9z2M

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

you go into the glucose aspect too much

you should refer to the design philosophy of it

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-science-its-science-gif-20674302

[acoustic osprey]

yeah but your referring to it is a bit misleaded

because it is inferring something that isn't exactly an intended viewpoint on it

[snow jasper]

Blame my biology teacher

[acoustic osprey]

fine!!

[snow jasper]

thank you

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

did you listen to it

[hexed forge]

yes

[pseudo fable]

They won't only come from plants and other animals, though. You will come to embrace the change.

[acoustic osprey]

very good

[snow jasper]

2 steps ahead of me
as always

[pseudo fable]

Not two steps ahead of you. You're theorizing on a fraction of writing mistakes I've already made and had to correct in some fashion.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/two-steps-ahead-nikocado-gif-14678948956843108232

[pseudo fable]

So it's just "hee hurr I mess up a lot and it's easier to deviate this way now instead of trying to rewrite later."

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[snow jasper]

Oh fair enough

[pseudo fable]

Animals will intake nutrients in other ways and from foreign plants and materials.

And so carbs/lipids/protein doesn't really translate in that fashion.

[hexed forge]

Hmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

sun baking! get your vitamin D!

[hexed forge]

Why do I actually like this idea.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

Wouldn't that be neat? Photosynthetic Flesh. Translate direct sunlight exposure to minor [insert active nutrient] gain.

Some strain plant somewhere.

[hexed forge]

Mutation!

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo

[acoustic osprey]

feels like a mutation that would also have an off side to it
but I doubt we'd have something like that, looking at every other mutation design philosophy being basically just a gain

[lethal moat]

I'm just imagining a bunch of ants farming aphids for honeydew

[acoustic osprey]

easy food

[hexed forge]

Offtopic, but,

Don, would we be able to find the glance sheets of dinos that we didnt get a glance sheet of before?

[acoustic osprey]

"i can never die in the day, try me fool!"

[pseudo fable]

Yes.

[acoustic osprey]

sick

[hexed forge]

Amazing!

Thanks for the reply.

[acoustic osprey]

(probably stretching it here ... but anything more than just the dino glance sheets though?)

[hexed forge]

Errant..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

honestly i need a good ramble vid about ERRANT, lol
still get stunned by that sheet every time

[hexed forge]

Would be cool if there is a clean errant sheet. (No black boxes covering 60% of the text)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though
those sheets like ERRANT, if in game, feel like they should way more rare and more so in specific spots in the map

where the dino glance sheets seem far more general and widespread

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

makes sense for there to be tons of dino glance sheets, gotta keep an eye out and knowledge on them
but tons of ERRANT-291 docs? Don't know why you'd want to have many of them lol

[hexed forge]

We still dont know if Errant-291 even takes place on Gateway or not.

[acoustic osprey]

I'm still placing my bets on it

[hexed forge]

Im 50/50 on it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-suspense-terrible-hope-it-will-last-chocolate-factory-gif-4674658

[hexed forge]

(It was all on Spiro, the true Gateway to Tartarus)

[snow jasper]

A very accurate depiction of everyone right now in the community

Reminds me, I want to rewatch that film

[hexed forge]

Theres even a viewing area.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

i mean... it was posted in a time where spiro (v1?) might've still been canon ...

if there truly WILL be a new Spiro
do we refer to the old Spiro as Spiro_V1?
Or just old spiro

you mean placeholder name for Gateway

[snow jasper]

Its a cool name

[acoustic osprey]

veiled island / evening island was a nice name
especially veiled

MADE sense for Gateway (gateway to tartarus)

but, it is not called that anyways!!

if Tartarus was/is an island, i would definitely have it called that

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

I mean,

They might've used Spiro as a blueprint for the new "Reworked" version of "spiro".

Maybe the map gets a whole new name. We just need to wait.

Blessing.

[patent ginkgo]

new ui is BEAUTIFUL

[hexed forge]

Indeed.

[patent ginkgo]

my time to be important to lore is fast approaching too

the day of Botany is on the horizon

[hexed forge]

yahoo

Also it seems like we might not get a Halloween video this year..

Please..

[acoustic osprey]

I just want thunder fog fixed

[patent ginkgo]

in classic isle player fashion.

why did you expect such lol

[hexed forge]

Because we got a halloween video for the past 2 years.. 3.

Guess this is the year that breaks the streak.

[patent ginkgo]

i mean we got videos...

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

But we did get a Halloween event though

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

also two other trailers this year

[acoustic osprey]

well technically only one

but also one lore video

https://youtu.be/FMbYDaXJ5qM
Also this

GW_7825

just let that sink in

[hexed forge]

Was that actually filmed on Gateway tho?

I feel like its just a random patch of jungle on spiro

[acoustic osprey]

i don't believe it was
but it was done just before Gateway was finished, basically when they were porting it to UE5

how official do we call it?

heck, let us do a vote on lorecord

[snow jasper]

my money is on spiro

[hexed forge]

On how official it is its probably not official. Lorewise.

Mapwise its probably spiro.

[acoustic osprey]

#1161520000348205056 message

vote!!

[hexed forge]

I want to hear the reasoning on why people think its lore.

@lethal moat

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I see no reason for it not to be

[hexed forge]

And how is it lore?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[hexed forge]

Its sole purpose was to tease troodon.

The GW_ Doesnt line up with anything !!

[acoustic osprey]

three things
GW_7825
Before Gateway was released
and also the tailend of the 'basic' TCAM vids

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/brian-david-gilbert-nothing-here-nothing-theres-nothing-here-polygon-gif-25500885

[acoustic osprey]

could it maybe answer something about F5....

or is it a product of old Evrima lore, a bygone era

[hexed forge]

NOOOOO

[acoustic osprey]

basically like the Pachy video

you're frozen cerato lol

[hexed forge]

I SEVERELY doubt that it has anything to do with lore.

I believe that it is a teaser video in form of a trailcam in order to be immersive.

[hexed forge]

Why did you turn on the stormmm

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

YOU JUST MADE IT WORSE!

Somehow.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

I had 0 fps for a split second.

[acoustic osprey]

did they change?
or just another model

[hexed forge]

My screenshot was in the Perimeter

[acoustic osprey]

same

[hexed forge]

oh hm

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[hexed forge]

They changed the model I guess? Maybe..?

[acoustic osprey]

interesting to see, but why

and that looks like a marketplace asset as well

[snow jasper]

how much new stuff has been added since the dock‘s initial public drop, i‘ve not played the isle since

[acoustic osprey]

nope
seperate model then

this is from another spot on Perm

[hexed forge]

Ahh

[hexed forge]

They fixed a lot of the bugs and finalized the areas, looks real nice now.

[acoustic osprey]

did you take your photo from the general floor office?

or one of these rooms

[snow jasper]

je vois

[acoustic osprey]

jien ara...

[hexed forge]

I dont remember.

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

looks like it was the 2nd one

[hexed forge]

Its this one

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
thats this one

so yeah
not changed then

[hexed forge]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

shame, oh well!

(not really but)
This must confirm they left in both Jan and Feb!!

[hexed forge]

#1161520000348205056 message

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

[acoustic osprey]

related or not related

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

What

[acoustic osprey]

that is the real question

[hexed forge]

Not related.

I don't understand the reasoning behind it being related.

Yet the majority voted for it being related to lore.

[acoustic osprey]

For:

This video was made during Gateway's UE5 porting, posted way after it was first played by the old ST team

against:

In which goes by the default TCAM style
but has "GW_7825" as its presumed location tag.

[hexed forge]

And also the jungle looks a lot like Spiro. I don't even think it was filmed on gateway.

[acoustic osprey]

i believe it was

and it was during when it could've been filmed on GW

[low scarab]

A little late to the party but thoughts on ui?

Nothing crazy lore wise I believe

[acoustic osprey]

It is great

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah
Definitely nothing atm

[low scarab]

Yea I like the ui more than I thought I would although I still believe it needs some depth I get what don is going for but I find it a little bland I think at least for like main menus, 3d ui normally look/work better

[acoustic osprey]

I disagree

[low scarab]

How so?

Js personal preference or kind of think the ui fits better?

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say 3d would work better
Especially if you take context, minimalism and CRT is fitting
Especially in terms of lore videos from them

Plus helps with performance

[hexed forge]

I just hope we can change the UI color and the developer button is removed.

(Remove it as in normal players cannot see it)

Also adding an admin mode from the menu would be nice. For players with admin.

[acoustic osprey]

The devblog said we will

[hexed forge]

I mean like, fully custom.

Hopefully we don't get selected choices for us to choose from.

#ff9026

An example of what I mean by custom.

Us being able to use HTML color codes, etc.

[ornate comet]

There are few communities who complain as much as isle players do lol

[hexed forge]

yay

[ornate comet]

Has anyone dared to watch goldfishes new video…

[strange shell]

ew

#ff71c0

[hexed forge]

That was just a random color HTML that I copy and pasted!!

As an example

[hexed forge]

Yes,

I thought he was crazy until I saw his reply to Filipe's comment. Turns out goldfish is crazy and a dick.

[hexed forge]

Pink...

[ornate comet]

Yeah dude I screenshotted that and showed my friend

Insane

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[strange shell]

fabulous

That's the color I'm gonna make my main menu if we can use html codes

[kindred bobcat]

Why the dev button?

[hexed forge]

Its annoying to look at when you wont ever be able to click it. Remove it so normal players cant see it. But also having an admin mode from the menu would be a cool idea.

(Only admin players can see it ofc)

[kindred bobcat]

I suppose

[ornate comet]

I definitely could have workshopped this some more but what do you guys think? #general-feedback message

[sonic rampart]

Please only use this channel to discuss the game's lore

[ornate comet]

Gotcha, I just know the most people in here lol

[hexed forge]

Check your DMs in a second.

[robust ether]

?

[hexed forge]

I will send you it in lorecord rq

[robust ether]

why cant people be normal in this community

also thanks cerato

[snow jasper]

Have we covered why Beipiaosaurus of all the currently known glance sheets lack an AE watermark over it?

probably just another thing forgotten

[kindred bobcat]

maybe its one of the ones that got stolen

[pulsar anchor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/258026212708843521/809224059825029161/lmaonicefly.gif

[median shuttle]

@patent ginkgo is this a real plant or might this be some botany lore

[patent ginkgo]

its botany lore, the lore doc has already been updated with the necessary info

[median shuttle]

awesome saucesome

[patent ginkgo]

very

[icy onyx]

indeed

[hexed forge]

From my experience theres 3 different versions.

Crimson, Azure, and Violet iirc.

(Azure being blue)

[icy onyx]

(crimson being red)

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

Fake and real

[hexed forge]

The model is a placeholder, the name is real.

[fast forge]

(violet being yellow)

[patent ginkgo]

MISINFORMATION BANNED

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/éowyn-i-am-no-man-no-man-lord-of-the-rings-lotr-gif-11834502

[patent ginkgo]

Shall not be fish reacted, sorry for the inconvenience

[hexed forge]

Good point.

[fast forge]

This road (red circle) dead ends on a cliff

Reminds me of the one in west access

Cliffside buildings?

[dapper cedar]

I have a theory

[open harness]

A game theory

[regal horizon]

The question is rather.. is vincent stronger than other kentros?

[zenith frigate]

with or without onions

[regal horizon]

Without

[zenith frigate]

this is an interesting scenario
As everyone knows the power of a kentro multiplies with each of its onions
as in this situation there are no onions and so its power must be multiplied by zero
this creates two possiblities
one where the power of this kentro is zero
and the other in which this kentro has power that cannot be fathomed as dividing by zero cannot happen and so must mean that vincent has almost godlike power to enable him to do so
the first possibility is unlikely as no kentro could ever be so powerless
I believe that Vincent is the strongest kentro and could very well be the strongest being in existence

[regal horizon]

Damn, glad i asked here.

Hope noone has to encounter vincent with onions then

[hexed forge]

Who..

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[regal horizon]

You don't know vincent???

He is.. unreal

[icy onyx]

uh oh klatschi?! what the sigma?!

[fast forge]

it would make the swamp cliffs look so much cooler, have some aviary or other building perched up there

[hexed forge]

I could see a radio tower going there, maybe even the giant towers from legacy.

[fast forge]

[lofty flame]

tento

[regal horizon]

freakin m.k made me spread the gospel of vincent

[low scarab]

Yk what would be cool

And maybe js maybe “easy” lore drop

[hexed forge]

[low scarab]

Would be when the new ui drops we get a lil admin panel that requires a password and don slips some clues here and there for us to decipher

[hexed forge]

"easy"

If we could find the password by doing ingame activities(Finding things, etc), I would like that.

[acoustic osprey]

hmm, nothing really to talk about

[hexed forge]

The poll results in lorecord maybe?

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-libre-why-but-gif-23595404

[acoustic osprey]

the only confusing part is GW_7825

which is the most annoying part of it

i guess that is also because there is basically nothing to that video besides that lol

[hexed forge]

I don't see why it would need to be tied to current Evrima lore.
I don't see how it would be tied to current Evrima lore.
I don't see what would be tied to current Evrima lore.

Its a video made to tease an upcoming dinosaur via immersing the viewer as if they were watching a Trail Camera.

GW_7825 is probably some random set of numbers. And the GW part perhaps indicating that it was filmed on Gateway.

I really dont think it fits anywhere in the lore.

I see it the same as the April Fools video that mentioned GW_F5.

Perhaps even less than the April Fools video, since April fools mentioned an actual lore topic.

While the teno T-Cam... just... nothing.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
THOSE videos were the only bit of video lore we were getting at the time prior to Seiza making her PROPER lore dino showcase videos (AUGUSTUS and Dibble TCAM)

that is why

I don't see why it would need to be tied to current Evrima lore.
I see this video as potentially being lore due to their simple nature

it tying would be because it wasn't that very long ago, being made way after P3 was made
even after ERRANT-291

I don't see what would be tied to current Evrima lore.
and just due to the simple nature
nothing much - if anything, if it IS canon, it would just be 'added data' .... not being story fulfilling but being filler that adds to our knowledge, as lore nerds, of what AE have been doing on the island

Its a video made to tease an upcoming dinosaur via immersing the viewer as if they were watching a Trail Camera.
BUT the thing is - that is the same with AUGUSTUS and Dibble TCAM
just that they contain more lore. But are still showcases / sneak-peaks. Just done better.

I really dont think it fits anywhere in the lore.
this bit though
i would refer to this
"nothing much - if anything, if it IS canon, it would just be 'added data' .... not being story fulfilling but being filler that adds to our knowledge, as lore nerds, of what AE have been doing on the island"

[hexed forge]

So basically,

The added data is that this is just more evidence of AE monitoring their assets, and that there are TCAMs everywhere across certain islands.

I see

[acoustic osprey]

i don't mind having contextual filler
especially since it is not supposed to be anything linear, in terms of lore storytelling

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm

I would like to change my vote

[acoustic osprey]

seeing AE do what they would do 'normally' without things being destroyed and the what not

does add a bit more character / context to AE

[acoustic osprey]

lol

rather than just being "AE got attacked by Herrera! AE's servers are so bad! AE got an errant who died mysteriously"

at least
for me it makes it seem a bit more realistic for AE and lore general

[lofty swallow]

tom

tom and ben

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

'oh yeah, look at these dinosaurs being dinosaurs'

to be fair
it can be boring

but if you add them in between your major/bigger things

then you add character to story
which is nice

don't want too much of both sides
a good balance is always the best

[acoustic osprey]

the only problem though is GW_7825....

[hexed forge]

I just realized that each video has a different status.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

[hexed forge]

I had a thought,

If that was filmed on gateway. Would we be able to geolocate that random spot in a jungle? Spoiler alert! Map changes just made that 50000x harder to do.

[acoustic osprey]

Map changes just made that 50000x harder to do.
definitely

we could
the actual video is pretty unique visually

would be very hard to pint point

[hexed forge]

I would 100% be up for the job to geolocate it, however, seems like a lost cause if the placement of the bushes was changed when updating the map.
Also the fact that there was new foliage added.

Almost impossible in gateways current state.

We lost the chance.

But the location is screaming Northwest Ridge for me. Just because of the open plains in the back/palm tree. But that could be east plains... it could be anything.

[hexed forge]

Some videos dont even have a status.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah like augustus...

all the descriptions from a few months back are on the lore doc btw

[patent ginkgo]

thanks isaac

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[hexed forge]

Yes Im on it right now, and I see you on it too. 🫵

[acoustic osprey]

lol

teno one seemed to be the only one with "Analysing" interesting

[hexed forge]

Since troodon is special,

I would think that they are analyzing the troodon behavior maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

what was the leaked number code for AUGUSTUS' incident report again?

[hexed forge]

Leaked number code?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

there you go

[hexed forge]

huh

[acoustic osprey]

apparently he found it when in inspection on YT

[hexed forge]

That is the first time in my life seeing that number.

2331 Incident Reports... Jesus.

[acoustic osprey]

not surprised, even if fake
looking at legacys old ones

[hexed forge]

Not showing me the number.

Unless im on the wrong thing lol

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i get the same
but we was persistent in that is how we got it when i asked

[hexed forge]

Who found it?

yay!! REALL!!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.reddit.com/r/theisle/comments/1ev2ebb/lore_herra_teaser/

Highlight the title specifically the black part and then click inspect and then edit as HTML and it should pop up

that is what i got when i DMed him

[hexed forge]

Already that many reports by the 1990s?

[acoustic osprey]

in Legacy
it was 90s to roughly 2017

[hexed forge]

Yeah, but AUGUSTUS takes place around the 90s. So there were already over 2 thousand reports.

[acoustic osprey]

it might
it might not take place then

we also don't know when they started

[hexed forge]

If AE started in the 1960s, which is when I think it started.

Its still a crazy amount of incidents per year.

HOWEVER.

These incidents could vary from anything to an electrical problem to a mass causality asset breach.

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't say that would be crazy

that'd be around 67 reports a year

which could be anything
just has to be a report that revolves around an incident

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, I assume it has to be a report in .Avi right?

or what is it called

[acoustic osprey]

not specifically

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

doesn't seem like it

https://gyazo.com/e268f94043bb4d276bcde5481a861212
just an incident report

i would presume most would be in AVI, due to the large amount of cameras

[hexed forge]

Since it could be any kind of incident report, I guess that it isn't that much.

My mind went to some JP level incidents...

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, that is what i believe

[acoustic osprey]

fair fair

but to be fair, gotta take the AUGUSTUS video on context too
nothing really crazy happens

Just destroys cameras

[hexed forge]

Tbf, AE was probably more...Concerned..? About AUGUSTUS learning to climb than the cameras.

I question marked "Concerned" because, if you take a look at it more deeply. AE scientists mightve seen that as an advancement instead of a problem. They literally replicated the entire herrera species around AUGUSTUS. So it seemed they looked at it as a success.

[acoustic osprey]

didn't seem like it

seems more curious than concerned

concerned would imply a negative connotation to such

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

if so, they wouldn't have re-based Herrerasaurus' after him

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

concerned would imply a negative connotation to such

curious / intrigued would fit better

in my opinion

[urban turret]

Didn’t know this game had lore

[lethal moat]

There’s a lot

[hexed forge]

It would yes, my second part of the statement basically says how using concerned would be problematic.

[acoustic osprey]

also
weird thing

Tartarus isn't fully capitalised
unlike OLYMPUS

[hexed forge]

Olympus was an Acronym all along...

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
but still yeah - they definitely were more interested about him climbing than the cameras haha

it might be why they weren't fixed in the live

you'd think they would've been pretty immediately after

this might be that AUGUSTUS took place 'post-incident'? ||is there a better term now?||

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720007490145747026/1045462765910884442/pies.gif

it so happens to be

[hexed forge]

From the time of the cameras being destroyed, to the live, thats less than 12 hours.

So maybe they just didnt have the time.

[acoustic osprey]

being that it definitely seemed to take a few hours for the Gen2/Human to replace the TCAM
a camera made to be easily moved around and the such

that is assuming the same situation with the Dibble TCAM video
being that it is also the same time frame ('post-incident')

which I wouldn't place a lot of bets on

[acoustic osprey]

do we know how long the live is from the actual incident?

i don't believe we're given a time frame

[hexed forge]

No,

But there was like a 3 hour long discussion in here discussing the timeline of the events.

I think it ended with 2 different theories, I dont remember anymore.

[acoustic osprey]

i'll have to find it then

[hexed forge]

One was like,

The Herrera in the live is AUGUSTUS, and the time from the Cameras being destroyed to the Live is less than 12 hours.

Other was something like,

The Herrera was an AUGUSTUS offspring, it couldnt be AUGUSTUS because AUGUSTUS was captured. (Which I dont think he was at that time)

[acoustic osprey]

no it couldn't be augustus

[hexed forge]

Why?

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/c65caf762ade356564b3d8d5dc7fd6e7

unless GW_H4 is also OLYMPUS

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66e366ff25894bf40230e730/4x.gif

[hexed forge]

"174 was selected by management"

That specific part, I think its future tense. Meaning that they got an order to relocate and entomb him. However, they didnt do it yet.

[acoustic osprey]

was is past tense

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[acoustic osprey]

i find the chances of it being AUGUSTUS over a natural off spring being low

[hexed forge]

The order to entomb him, is the past tense. (At that moment there was an order to relocate and entomb him)

If AUGUSTUS was already captured and entombed. I think it would say something different.

[acoustic osprey]

i know but it is still in past tense

they just never said if they captured him or not

if they didn't
it might just be that AE is real lazy

can't fix their cameras
can't get the dino

[hexed forge]

Tbf,

Is 12 hours with a rogue AUGUSTUS on the loose a long time.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

if management ordered something
I doubt it would be a slow done task

[hexed forge]

A couple factors to include.

-Would AE have a protocol for a dinosaur that can climb? Maybe AUGUSTUS was their first climbing species.
-Most of the time is midnight/morning. Hard to see during those times, especially in a jungle with a 175kg rat that can camouflage in the trees and climb that can fall on you at any moment.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
I would believe they would've tried to capture / contain AUGUSTUS much earlier on

[hexed forge]

Its in the middle of the night with a creature that can climb on the loose !

There couldve been multiple failed attempts that AUGUSTUS got away from.

Ah,

But why didnt they include that in the report..

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[acoustic osprey]

doesn't have to be quite immediately
especially since it says they couldn't identify what creature it was at first

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i'd assume they would write such
although, I wouldn't assume they would've put down "then we captured AUGUSTUS"

seems like something that would've been assumed so if they did actually do it

[hexed forge]

I would love to see some more reports styled in a similar fashion to AUGUSTUS,

That way we could compare how these reports are formatted.

[acoustic osprey]

technically Dibble one is also like such
just terrible ripped apart

[hexed forge]

I mean unless they pull a dibble T-Cam Car- yeah

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind them as well
BUT I do prefer more unique / different lore videos

like how Dibble vid was technically the same (almost the same) as the AUGUSTUS video
but a completely new way of showcasing such

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/2e892b5df1ff488e45f72657ff8f73ec
https://gyazo.com/ddb736832f6db60bf50a72650cd5de5e

two letters...

[iron anchor]

676 combinations

[acoustic osprey]

and none of them real words...

[iron anchor]

what is that from anyways

[acoustic osprey]

errant-291

i wanted to find his name
but realised it was too hard

[iron anchor]

ag it’s a persons name

[acoustic osprey]

all i could get from 291's actual name was z

[iron anchor]

you took the other letters that are clear and put them on top of the blurred ones right

[acoustic osprey]

for which part

[iron anchor]

all of them i’m assuming?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[acoustic osprey]

for most of them, i put the red text over the words that are easily read

[hexed forge]

What part of the errant sheet is that?

[acoustic osprey]

the main one

[hexed forge]

oh just saw.

[acoustic osprey]

talk about the two units who returned

they also became 'redundant'

which is ... interesting

[iron anchor]

you just found the same font?

[acoustic osprey]

nah, i found the font years back

the only reason i am doing this again is because i wanted to find errant-291s name
which i failed

https://gyazo.com/595372304ccaa9df107b65b68f40a376
people had this quite wrong

Saoul said this could be "Posideon and Hades"

a few others thought 'first location & Site ..."

which don't fit
if you use the right font

[hexed forge]

Maybe they got hurt?

Permanent Injuries.

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040640580205682770/image.png?ex=67283750&is=6726e5d0&hm=5b729c317d42801c336a26f3d2c6148d81f36060818138b3c63c2aa11ba085a0&
like look how squished it is lol

[acoustic osprey]

but they referred to only those two returning

[hexed forge]

They could still be hurt and at the same time return.

[acoustic osprey]

three units

F...
H...
Unknown Third (we'll say No3)

No3 did not return
where F and H did

then, when leaving GUTS access to Olympus "..."
291 dies
then F and H become marked redundant

is it literally

you guys sucked at your one job
therefore "no longer needed"

[acoustic osprey]

would make more sense if it said 'found injured / injured upon return'

rather than 'redundant'
which would mean no longer useful

albeit
could be that they were all injured

[hexed forge]

True

[iron anchor]

it looks like you already spent a lot of time on it, you reckon i can find anything you already haven’t?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe this to be the timeline

[acoustic osprey]

if you want
go for it

font is X Typewriter

[iron anchor]

👍

[hexed forge]

"You seen too much son"

Demoted to janitor

[acoustic osprey]

one of these

i am using regular
but use both

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
I wouldn't be surprised

look at Tartarus with AUGUSTUS avi warning

here it is without my markings on it

[hexed forge]

Mhm, might have something to do with the third sweep team disappearing.

[acoustic osprey]

i believe it to be due to 291 dying or both

seeing as it refers to them being marked redundant after 291 dies

in terms of where it is written

rather than being under "only units F... and H... returned"

eg.

Only units F and H returned, and were marked redundant

[hexed forge]

Mmm, so basically.

"Both of your teams sucked at your jobs, demoted"

[acoustic osprey]

lol

i wouldn't be surprised if that was the case, yeah

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/promotion-demotion-lesser-promotion-fred-armisen-gif-11792709

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/under-new-management-more-like-under-new-management-megamind-megamind-meme-jokez_da_joke-gif-19867663

[hexed forge]

2 Seperate words?

[acoustic osprey]

i don't believe it is
as it doesn't seem to be the case in the reference earlier to the name
https://gyazo.com/40c532e06f34b38ee60bb9895939339f

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

But it is like I have always said
291 really intrigues me

Not just the character
But the whole damn sheets lol

[iron anchor]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

[acoustic osprey]

even in the very unrelated isle roblox game

all isle games are plagued with "LOREM IPSUM"

@zenith frigate please just finish it... i have been waiting ...

[zenith frigate]

Im just gonna put a block here with my thoughts
It seems to me that 291 was caught wondering around already inside whatever underground facility they have.
They detained 291 and upon them transferring 291 to another facility they died.
The second paragraph seems like a review of what was happening at the time as it does not mention that it was the the dispatched units that found 291.

So I think it went like this.
3 teams were out on patrol and 1 team did not return. (in blank access)
All checkpoint teams were on post and no entrances were unguarded.
291 is discovered already inside the facility and detained. (in D section Interior)
291 is transferred and upon leaving the facility suffers a heart attack and dies.

The no active biotrace could mean not human. Like they were grown for the purpose of this mission and upon being captured and transported likely for interrogation was killed.

Alternatively
D section interior is connected to the ZEUS Entry and the three sweep teams were sent out after the detainment of 291 to investigate the area.

Unknown how 291 could have gotten into the facility in the first place if every entrance was guarded but one of the teams not returning points to their being more than just 291 in the area.
The teams being marked redundant could be due to them just not seeing anything relating to the 291 situation as it does seem to be a stealth operation.

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=6727d281&is=67268101&hm=67481f93aac832156396833151d3305fabb2e500388f8ede6f4800d79d64b73e&

[zenith frigate]

that does line up

[acoustic osprey]

location-wise, yes