isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

Bare with me here..

[fast forge]

I found one of the new plants

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[fast forge]

I SAID I FOUND ONE OF THE NEW PLANTS

[hexed forge]

But

https://tenor.com/view/negative-hmm-never-mind-nathan-fillion-gif-5581485

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

OH I should check on the east tower

Server restart..

[hexed forge]

East plains was literally cut in some places if the coords arent bugged

Yep, East plains is half its size

yay

Hopefully this is fixed lol

[zenith frigate]

and its gone again

volcano cave seems unchanged

bunch more containers and cages

[hexed forge]

mhm

Love to see Docks being finalized

[zenith frigate]

cant find any other changes across the rest of the map

[fast forge]

febrary

The month after Janary and before Merch

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

February is my birthday month

Sorry

I meant to say Febrary

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[zenith frigate]

who ghost pinged me

@hexed forge slow

[hexed forge]

I was on phone ok

But the first time it wasn't me

[zenith frigate]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Uh oh

[prisma echo]

Is there anything in the lore yet that connects our current mutation system with the strains?

[lethal moat]

Not yet

[prisma echo]

Would it be safe to make that assumption?

[lethal moat]

I would say no

[spark egret]

Is that east plains?

[acoustic osprey]

east dome

[hexed forge]

Right next to where the East Dome was.

[kindred bobcat]

no years for you

[lethal moat]

This is better than nothing

[hexed forge]

Basically confirms that AE existed during that time period.

[lethal moat]

AE existed and had the BIOS to run the archive

[kindred bobcat]

Okay, no evacuation year for you

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-not-yet-minion-not-yet-will-ferrell-villain-gif-20755405

If there was an evacuation

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe
Maybe not

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know the validity of the living roadmap

[hexed forge]

Oh true I guess

[fast forge]

I just had a thought
What if AE failed to make their computer network Y2K compliant, and that led to the downfall of gateway

[lethal moat]

That’d be funny

[acoustic osprey]

give me these narrative situations!

[ornate comet]

This could imply at after Jurassic park was released AE formed and started making dinosaurs since it was released in 93

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-god-of-war-knees-gods-gif-17928519

[hexed forge]

The narrative situation:

Ben.

[acoustic osprey]

if those dates are canon
that would be going off when AE made that software

[acoustic osprey]

lol

which means Jurassic Park told them
you don't want one person running your security system (most important part ->) on AN OPERATING SYSTEM that you didn't make!

so
therefore, it is so, that AE had to make their own OS line!

basically 1984 their tech within their islands and facilities

[hexed forge]

Why are we even bothering to discuss about Jurassic Park if IT DOESNT EVEN EXIST IN ISLE LORE !!

[acoustic osprey]

erm, how do you know that!!

[hexed forge]

Ben told me

[acoustic osprey]

what if the movie was funded by Apollo to distract the general populous!

[hexed forge]

Craig too

[ornate comet]

I did no such thing

[acoustic osprey]

is there any way we could shorten "Apollo"
and not just make it "A"

[hexed forge]

The other Ben! The deformed... dilo.. thing !

[acoustic osprey]

Ap?

[hexed forge]

Alo

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-matter-ben10-big-brain-gif-20748460

[hexed forge]

Allo....

[acoustic osprey]

this Ben?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/witch-shes-a-witch-point-witches-witchfinder-gif-17759256

[hexed forge]

No thats Ben from Craigs dreams

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

Apl
Aplo
Apo
Ao

There seems to be no way to shorten it

[iron anchor]

A on a pole with an O for a base

[hexed forge]

Plot twist:

Apollo is a spanish company so the actual name is

A pollo

(Pollo being chicken!)

[acoustic osprey]

i think Ap feels right

not too much
not too little

[hexed forge]

If you are going to refer to it as "Ap" in a conversation.... Im not too sure....

But if its for like a designation or an acronym.. maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

why?

[iron anchor]

get rid of the A

Lo and behold

[hexed forge]

People might confuse it to app

[acoustic osprey]

there is no english word that is "Ap"
and no capitalisation of the 'p' just to infer it is not an acronym
but a word that is shortened for the sake of efficient communication

[acoustic osprey]

Ap is trying to create dinosaurs

or Apl

Apl just feels like i'm trying to say apple

[iron anchor]

look at the apollo missions and find something short from there

like a nickname instead

[hexed forge]

And Ap sounds like "app"

Just say Apollo !!

Its 3 extra letters!

No one saw that mistake

[acoustic osprey]

then say it as "A" 'p'

[acoustic osprey]

4...

[hexed forge]

Then its going to sound like "Ape"

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

oh like AP

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

maybe...

But Apollo is still way easier and more convenient imo

[acoustic osprey]

it just feels weird
saying AE and Apollo

when i feel like i want to shorten Apollo as well

[iron anchor]

palm tree emoji

[hexed forge]

Some things just cant be shortened!

Jeez the attention span is deteriorating

[iron anchor]

are you trying to shorten it for a document or video or just to talk about it?

[acoustic osprey]

it is a very aussie thing to do

[hexed forge]

Conversation

[iron anchor]

ah ok

[acoustic osprey]

like if i were to talk about them with my voice
i'd always say Apollo and Apollo Engineering

[hexed forge]

ah

But even in text conversation its weird too

[iron anchor]

cerato was right the only way is allo

alo

Aptitude

[hexed forge]

Apollo is just more straightforward.

Shortening Apollo saves you 0.3 seconds..

[iron anchor]

apo.

[acoustic osprey]

yes and that helps

[hexed forge]

NOOOOO

[acoustic osprey]

those .3 seconds really add up

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-memes-kratos-kratos-bravo-god-of-war-gif-6964998318484964584

[lofty swallow]

AE

well I just scrolled up and apparently you guys already were talking about that

[hexed forge]

Thats Apollo Engineering

Not just Apollo in general

[lofty swallow]

A then

[runic valve]

My lore theory is that there is a council of the smol tiers that all come together every full moon to discuss ways that they can slowly take over the world.
Like taco, dryo, troo, minmi, beipi, etc. all around a circle table with lit cigars and stereotypical mafia style of clothing. Then they all start laying out the ways they can bring even bigger and stronger dinos to life to serve as their puppets
(This is 100% factual, dont let big apollo tell you otherwise )

[lethal moat]

One such meeting

[runic valve]

Ah yes, i remember that day as if i had just lived it mere moments ago. Troo boss sent his men to go and raid a human camp for important intel. Unfortunately the virus got to the mob and they had went feral, all according to AE's plan. Rest in peace to those brave soldiers

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIbbRMM0sZk
i'm waiting for the dreaded day anthom restarts his 'lore' videos lol

[lone hill]

Anthomnia…

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[hexed forge]

Uh oh

[knotty locust]

does he still make content on the isle

[acoustic osprey]

barely

[median furnace]

hopefully not

[lethal moat]

I feel like a lot of it could end up being outdated information, but we probably do the same, so I can’t judge too much

[low scarab]

Lore in quotations was personal

[bold crater]

Tissoplastic!

[lethal moat]

Gimmie

[bold crater]

Neurotenic!!!!!
Mage lizards!
Gen 2's worse nightmare probably!

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480573471948821/1173173235597197363/Neuro_Spino.gif?ex=6562fdb7&is=655088b7&hm=80fb679a714555687d61311e125ea77476090c97560ee811c0512c880383e75d&

[mortal hound]

omg

my favorite gif!

[bold crater]

[lofty swallow]

does he impale it with his tongue or just squeeze him?

[lethal moat]

Gotta practice your stabbin

[lofty swallow]

ah, I see

[hexed forge]

UI info on Halloween maybe !

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-heavy-maybe-sniff-well-see-gif-16650546

[fossil arch]

Meanwhile Magnum rex going on rage and kill hypo

[lethal moat]

Eugh, magna has been cancelled

[fossil arch]

This is sad part of this story

But type 0 is there, waiting for exploration

[hexed forge]

Nope, thats cancelled too

[lethal moat]

The whatnow

[fossil arch]

It died with legacy

[hexed forge]

Legacy stuff Rumple

[fossil arch]

But still, old things can help with future

If we find out what happened, what were the goal we could use this knowledge to look at evrima

We still don’t have much from evrima

Like there is Olympus transmitter or not ?

Wich is offline ?

[lethal moat]

Yes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=671bf501&is=671aa381&hm=4f0efb8c3183c24265f1eed4549d5c15f2565f487c513856ba03a243f40d118d&

[fossil arch]

Oh, thank you

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit?tab=t.0

Heres what we know so far, Evrima lore

[fossil arch]

Oki, I will look at it later

[fossil arch]

So it’s a “plan” for a tower or structure for transmitter

[lethal moat]

It's a glance sheet for areas on one of AE's sites

That was infiltrated by Errant 291

[fossil arch]

But Zeus, Hades, and Poseidon are operations for console ?

[hexed forge]

They are structures/entrances/facilities

[lethal moat]

Those are physical locations

[fossil arch]

Oh, yeah I need to look at this

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png?ex=671bfa71&is=671aa8f1&hm=94db9453a607b4ad2f5b6b0c9d7c597feb6bfdacbe0fa08ef42e5b015b68a816& This too

[fossil arch]

Isn’t there 6 in two spaces in date ?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

There's this as best as has been translated, I don't give it too much credit

[hexed forge]

2172...

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-fraud-alexjones-memes-funny-gif-20185064

[hexed forge]

yea,

Well no

Those are the /

[fossil arch]

So Evrima is future

[fossil arch]

Oh right

[lethal moat]

||12||/||23||/||3456||

[lethal moat]

Wdym? Evrima is the only one going forward

[fossil arch]

In Legacy you had something like 1980-2000 action

[hexed forge]

Dont trust the 2172

[hexed forge]

May or may not be true

[fossil arch]

2000’

[lethal moat]

Time is unkown, I would hazard a guess at somewhere roughly around modern day

[fossil arch]

Like for me this computers os look like from computer boom

There aren’t some thing related to modern, only cameras with not that perfect quality

[lethal moat]

Time when AE was active on (various island) and when we are actually in the story can be fairly different

[fossil arch]

We are definitely in future to those actions that happened

[lethal moat]

Yes, but how far is the big question

[fossil arch]

We can look at outposts

If long time passed buildings would be in vines and other plants

Also looking at technology will say a lot

[lethal moat]

Part of that issue is that the map isn't finished, but my guess is ~20 years

[fossil arch]

20 years of this stories that happened on island related to our gameplay as Dino

Interesting

Are there more relations to Greek mythology ?

[acoustic osprey]

Type O was early Evrima

[lethal moat]

There's things like the Echidna, there's Mercury beneficial, Apollo Engineering itself, Deimos project, etc

[acoustic osprey]

Romano! Romano!

mercury!!

also roman AUGUSTUS for the herrera

[lethal moat]

Potato tomato

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[fossil arch]

Echidna was the neuroplastic humanoid ?

[acoustic osprey]

neurotenic mastermind, yes

[hexed forge]

heh

[fossil arch]

Thanks god, at least this is good for me

[hexed forge]

Isaac elaborate

[lethal moat]

I'm aware lol, just interesting, wondering if that was because it was acquired by Apollo, rather than made and grown from within

[acoustic osprey]

if anything the DD and MM are the most accurate

as Tap/Don/Seiza made it so it followed three dates in order

[acoustic osprey]

'zann = magna quetz'

'don = no, O-Quetz'

[lethal moat]

Type O was a strain idea brought up early in Evrima that was cancelled

[acoustic osprey]

not really a Strain
if it was a magna replacement, it'd be more so a 'variant' (akin to Magnas being such)

[hexed forge]

I see

[fossil arch]

Changed to not be related to primal carnage

[hexed forge]

Similar to The Matriarch maybe?

Being a byproduct of Tissoplastic

[acoustic osprey]

basically
yeah

then just removed entirely

[fossil arch]

Like M “died” in story and was changed to type 0

Also we know that type 0 is much stronger and better than M type

[lethal moat]

Gone, reduced to atoms

[acoustic osprey]

No
I think you're getting confused with Magnas vs Hyperendocrins

[fossil arch]

It got “Killeen like that Hypo Rex back then

[acoustic osprey]

the issue with Magnas is that they were weaker than Hypers
but more sustainable

so basically had no flaws
and were the most powerful things in the game besides Hypers (and hypers would starve to death)

[fossil arch]

I am relating to that don’s massage “0 > M”

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
but that isn't an in-lore thing

that was with Don saying Magnas were replaced into "O"

but had no lore meaning given to us though

[fossil arch]

Oh so that mean the arrow

[snow jasper]

i wonder if the O was going to represent the prefix "omni-"

[fossil arch]

Also strains are still in evrima ? ( same strains form legacy )

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it was basically Don saying that "Os are replacing Magnas because Os idea was better"
until don said Os weren't a thing anymore

i do wish we knew more about Os though

[acoustic osprey]

all the three main strains are staying, aye

[fossil arch]

At least one thing that we know

[acoustic osprey]

this was the same time Omniraptor name change was leaked
so... yeah.

we thought

[fossil arch]

So hypos destroyed fences

[lethal moat]

I personally don't think so

[fossil arch]

Was it something bigger and stronger ?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/myth-busters-c4-explosion-when-in-doubt-gif-14612449

[fossil arch]

Metal lines in feces are going down

If C4 would explode the metal would go into different direction ( depends on C4 placed and how much was detonated ) it could go upwards

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[fossil arch]

The problem is that something hit that from up

[lethal moat]

The smaller holes I think were shape charges, the bigger holes can be hypers, but the small ones are strange

[acoustic osprey]

same thing with the 'holed' fence destruction
there is no real environmental story telling telling us it was exploded

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt such

[fossil arch]

Can you send a photo of these ?

This small hole could be sabotage or some kind of operation

[lethal moat]

That's my thought

[fossil arch]

It would be very word changing

Apollo is changed much from legacy or not ? ( I mean by the part “they are part of it” and “doesn’t want to leave”

[lethal moat]

I don't have any screenshots, but we do know that sabatoge is relevant

[lethal moat]

Seems pretty accurate

You want an invite to the lore server?

[fossil arch]

We know about some dead people ?

[fossil arch]

Ofc

[lethal moat]

Wdym?

[fossil arch]

I love the lore of the isle

[hexed forge]

We have to keep in mind that the Hyper fences are.. semi-hollow? They have tunnels/paths inside them. So it may be less difficult for a hyper to break through it then we thought

[snow jasper]

i do wish there were more drainage pipes along fences

all of them seem to only be at the ends where the terrain shows signs of purposeful erosion

[fossil arch]

Some body parts / skeletons or things in documents about some deaths of people ?

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey This guy is dead. Soon.

Hes the forklift driver that gets eaten

[acoustic osprey]

nothing yet
besides one blood patch

[acoustic osprey]

@lethal moat *

[lethal moat]

Other than Errant 291, not really

[hexed forge]

What about both

[snow jasper]

red ink spill

[fossil arch]

I will provide him with my old friend RPG-7

[acoustic osprey]

I am Count Cornelius Cromwell Constantine Clark the first!!

[fossil arch]

Dino incident ?

[hexed forge]

Where did Count Cornelius Cromwell Constantine Clark the third go

[snow jasper]

for a horror game, that blood splotch is awfully neon last time i remember it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-guitar-sunglasses-beard-wizard-gif-8056853888122559553

[lethal moat]

This https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png?ex=671bfa71&is=671aa8f1&hm=94db9453a607b4ad2f5b6b0c9d7c597feb6bfdacbe0fa08ef42e5b015b68a816&

[hexed forge]

On vacation

[fossil arch]

Aren’t GUTS land / Unterland passes through other structures ?

[lethal moat]

GUTS is underground infrastructure

[hexed forge]

Tunnels, facilities, etc. All underground

Generic. Underground. Transportation. System.

[fossil arch]

Or mega infrastructure

[lethal moat]

Both maybe, I imagine there's subsections in the underground, like the industrial hub

[fossil arch]

Do Apollo tried to make a weapons ?

[fossil arch]

Apollo is manly running for gen mutations

[fossil arch]

Okay, do they made non gen or bio weapon ?

[lethal moat]

We don't know if Apollo manufactured these, but they have them

[fossil arch]

Something like sleep gases

[lethal moat]

Haven't heard anything on chemical weapons yet

[fossil arch]

I am pretty sure that they bought it

[lethal moat]

GRADIC inc could be a subsidary under the larger Apollo corperation

[acoustic osprey]

bit of a retaliatory weapon

[fossil arch]

Those weapons wouldn’t contain those who god doesn’t want to see

[acoustic osprey]

the real gradic

[fossil arch]

Those weapons are for park like JP ( not shotguns )

[acoustic osprey]

(family from the austrian empire)

[lethal moat]

There is a weapon to use against hypers, we haven't heard anything on it yet though

[fossil arch]

Gradic inc.

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fossil arch]

And that’s what I wanted to hear

[fossil arch]

Apollo wouldn’t be parent company of that

Mainly because they aren’t related to military things yet

We haven’t seen any military purpose of H, N, T, or 0

[lethal moat]

Apollo is the parent company of: Mercury Beneficial, Apollo Red, Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, Apollo Engineering
That's the ones we know for certain

[fossil arch]

Apollo was making meds from Dino’s ?

[lethal moat]

Apollo is the parent company, Apollo Engineering is the genetics company that started off with food and botany

[fossil arch]

Apollo med making / using some organisms to produce some fluids or some would have kill them and use their bones or parts to make meds like we are making Tran from sharks

I think on some point, governments would look at Apollo, and military would access too

[lethal moat]

Or it's a normal pharma company under a larger corperate umbrella that includes other companies

[fossil arch]

It could be too

Like the star business or created before genetics

And what Mercury Beneficial and Apollo red does ?

[lethal moat]

We don't know

[fossil arch]

Apollo red for me realstes to Red Cross idk why

And mercury for idk market

[lethal moat]

We'll see, I think Mercury is transportation stuff because it correlates with the roman god

[fossil arch]

It could be

I am not that good with mythologies sadly

Hades would be prob a gate to hell

[hexed forge]

Tartarus.......

[fossil arch]

Place of no return, like place for mutants

[lethal moat]

We're guessing one of the entrances around the volcano

[fossil arch]

This is much worse than hell

[lethal moat]

It exists in lore

[hexed forge]

Thats if the "map" is even on Gateway !

[fossil arch]

Lava related to hell

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[fast forge]

wha
(oh I see the next message)

[fossil arch]

I know, those who are send there are people who wouldn’t wanted to go there

[fossil arch]

We do not know what’s there, but it’s worse than hell probably

[fossil arch]

It could be also Slav facility wich is granted as downgrade

Punishment or something else

You do wrong -> you go to Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

potentially a weapon
this was only something officially discussed in legacy

[fossil arch]

Apollo corp. is in some points related to legacy one

[lethal moat]

It's from an official video, so I say that fits

[fossil arch]

Imagine what kind of torture or psycho warfare goes there

Make SCP fundation but your employee need to work there with (..)

[lethal moat]

Eh, I'd rather them be useful than break them immediately

[fossil arch]

Do Tartarus has a levels ?

Or just only one place

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[lethal moat]

We've only seen one other mention of Tartarus, and it's completely useless

[bold crater]

Aight I gotta ask
the hell does "lineage displacement" imply exactly

[fossil arch]

If levels then it is punishment for not listening company or spying or other bad things

[fast forge]

It did seem to be a part of a header, but that doesn't tell us much

[lethal moat]

Well, Dondi did tell me I knew nothing about Tartarus when I asked on stream once

[fossil arch]

If normal place it could be just scary story, or those “experiments” could be hold ther

[lethal moat]

I think it's a research facility for the most secret and dangerous things personally

[fossil arch]

But what about defects

[patent ginkgo]

um

[lethal moat]

Learn what you can from your mistake and scrap it

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
basically some sort of header

a bit like the 'level 3 clearance required ...'
but more so made for the presentation
rather than a warning slide

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1247356583478820935/Idid_the_funny.png?ex=671b9898&is=671a4718&hm=293b69f8f23a591b48a0743004a2882d1bca0d6cf994f9f1344e97ab6dcf6899&

[fast forge]

I think it's the lineage of your EIP, or something like that
I don't think it's biological children

[hexed forge]

Might be uh..

Death.

[patent ginkgo]

well ya see dock,
uh
we dont exactly know

[hexed forge]

Your contract ends.

You have 1 life left.

[lethal moat]

I think it has something to do with replication

[bold crater]

[fossil arch]

But how scrap it ? Food ? Meds ? Food for tytans ? Or just useless waste

[hexed forge]

Or you lose all your saved lives

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/microwave-gif-18041779

[acoustic osprey]

keep them in tartarus! 🙂

[hexed forge]

Restarting the 1 thousand life process as a punishment

[fast forge]

now you see just how much we actually know

[hexed forge]

What if I want to take them on a walk

[fast forge]

very little

[acoustic osprey]

THEN YOU STAY IN TARTARUS AS WELL

[bold crater]

Hey I'm still gettin' into the lore properly, so y'all know more than me huehue

[fossil arch]

Then we will shoots you

[hexed forge]

BUT ITS SCARY

[fossil arch]

I mean they will

[acoustic osprey]

why

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bad-cop-too-lego-good-gif-16228075

[bold crater]

It's like

-# neat

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Welcome

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https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweat-sweaty-dissapointed-gif-19889918

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1297735421190602782/vJuLlbrg.gif

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No, it’s not. They made you think that way. Look at ufo is it real ? Nah

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We have to remake the lore table meme

[acoustic osprey]

yay!!

[fast forge]

It's not "lineage deletion" or anything destructive like that
It's just displacement

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I am not employ

[acoustic osprey]

your whole lineage shall be petty hypsis!

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PETTY??

[patent ginkgo]

uh oh

[hexed forge]

Your lineage gets removed from your personal lineage, moved somewhere else. yay

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I don’t know those guys. They aren’t related to anything. There nothing happened in Tartarus

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tartarus is a completely normal place, of course!

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Leaves the lore community after this comment

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I would even say it’s heaven for vacations !

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-wrap-jotunheim-ending-gif-18709345

[lethal moat]

That's the main company conference room

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Nah, it,s fun run with play time and a lot of sand, beautiful beach…. Water

Totally not armed personnel ready to kill

[lethal moat]

The island is completely safe for children, with silly dinosaurs for them to play with

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And not the scientist that are working on another god like creature that won’t make human Brian burn

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AE had to have had at least the thought of "yo what if we make the dinos a fun thing"

[acoustic osprey]

dinosaur? ... uh, didn't even know 'em

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I would like to give my baby to compies

[acoustic osprey]

give it some clown paint
beat that InGen!

[bold crater]

Like you can't tell me not a single AE engineer looked at Hypsi and didn't think "I would die for you"

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And then they created creature that would hunt you in dreams and laught in night when you have brown pants

[patent ginkgo]

then got spit in the eyes

[bold crater]

Jokes on you, I already wore brown pants

[bold crater]

[fossil arch]

I would like to pet you
dies because hypo ate him

[acoustic osprey]

"spits and blinds you" 😊

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-ragnarok-meme-perfect-gif-27213960

[fast forge]

Tom Cardy

[lethal moat]

I love perception check as a song

[bold crater]

Missed.

I moved 2 inches to the left
(Hypsi's spit requires unnecessarily difficult aiming)

[fossil arch]

And main questions, are human hybrids still same persons ?

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275591863725723849/Fish_Spin.gif

[lethal moat]

The strain humanoids?

[fossil arch]

*nom noms a big H-Spion ate some little dude

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Yes

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-dies-gif-23647153

[fast forge]

Or Gen 1?

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Gen 1 or gen 2 ?

[lethal moat]

We get into philosophy often, so I'm going to answer no and not elaborate on my reasoning

[fast forge]

gen 2 looks human, gen 1 are lizard people

strains are something else entirely

[acoustic osprey]

ontology!!

[lethal moat]

Ship of thesius etc etc

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So they are “different”
They lose humans in self ?

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I know, I am asking for gen 1 human or gen 2

[acoustic osprey]

mental decay?
insanity?

[lethal moat]

My argument is that you are never yourself because you are constantly changing

[patent ginkgo]

anything that is not genetically human is considered not a human, as don has told

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Memories could go and never return but it because brain changes

And we don’t know the mutation proces

[lethal moat]

Memories are a horrendous way of retaining information

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Are plants still related to creations of H type strains ?

[patent ginkgo]

now, i assume strains are an introduced disease, likely a virus, and one that likely changes its hosts dna

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Everything better than nothing

[patent ginkgo]

all strains, and dinos in general

[lethal moat]

We aren't sure on origins of strains yet, however, giant crab

[fast forge]

they get the job done, evolution doesn't perfect things

[patent ginkgo]

plant strains were explored as an idea before dino strains

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So that plants that are H type that some Dino ate maybe could exist

[patent ginkgo]

scratch this

[lethal moat]

Maybe

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We know that changes go not fast

[patent ginkgo]

i think strains are sort of bred

[bold crater]

🍞

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275981036857327666/DocTriggeredSPEED.gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bread-bread-ok-tiktok-gif-23253974

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The mutation changes going slow, body is trying to develop the best way for environment survival or task that gen was given with

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oh the guy with glasses is a scientist, I recognize him

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yeah hank green, cool dude

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This bread owns me money

[lethal moat]

I personally think strains are entirely different creatures, grown separately and differently from the average animal

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can't remember if it was him or his twin who had cancer

[patent ginkgo]

given what we know and can infer from shirley/that other one that i may or may not have forgotten the name of, and that strain plants were explored first, and that plants are often bred and sometimes refered to as strains...

[acoustic osprey]

DEAN

[bold crater]

DEEEEEEAN

[patent ginkgo]

yeah that fun dude

[lethal moat]

DEAN

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I like this idea, however I dont entirely agree with it.

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-marmot-gif-26506271

[patent ginkgo]

the smart guy with the physical impedement

[acoustic osprey]

neither

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that was what I had thought, and then it was hinted that zombie tissos were a thing, and then we had an infectious zombie outbreak

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They are prob, but what if they was containment breach ? Ofc it is stupid theory because they were testing it on Dinos like H-Carno or T-Rex, giga, Spino and more

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how Rumple describes such
that was the process of "Variants". Aka Magnas

[lethal moat]

They get out and die

[patent ginkgo]

also happens to be a tyrannosaurus rex, but thats just a detail

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Not if food source is enough and on time

This things must ate so much

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hypers will die of starvation

[fast forge]

the Stephen Hawking of tyrannosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurrassic-park-jurassic-park-jurassic-park-movie-richard-attenborough-hammond-gif-24925890

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They are like a skull crawlers from Kong: skull island

But even much better metabolism

[lethal moat]

Better?

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Skull crawler could survive for some time and hibernate

[bold crater]

Kissen has also mentioned other strains will be temporary as well, but we do not know what it is that limits them.
Hypers is starvation. Neuros and Tissos.....hmmm.
Personally I doubt it's something as simple as "oh they get thirsty to mirror Hypers' hunger!" like some have suggested. Seems both too obvious and cheap.

[acoustic osprey]

we do know Hypers can survive for a few days, in lore
a given rough estimate by Don a year ago

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But skull crawler was made by “nature” and not by crazy scientists trying to make perfect creature

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I like neuros drying out, so no sun, need to stay near water or mud, or just rain

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Jellyfish mages

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And that’s is they key point

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if it's anything like the zombie plague, it could be that the carriers fizzle out and die off

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

wowza, 2 years ago

[fast forge]

like the zombies aren't effective enough to sustain their numbers

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https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[bold crater]

Ah, I see.

[lethal moat]

I think the zombie thing could be tisso related, but not enough to give credence to base lore theories off of it unless we get more

[bold crater]

Is there a particular dev comment mentioning/implying zombie Tisso stuff that I can see? C:

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A electricity gaining 💀 it would devour electricity, maybe not that much like skrill but imagine this thing taking some electricity to make EMP boom

[lethal moat]

#1167557586699178054 message

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it's true, dock just mentioned other possible mentions of strain mitigation and the zombie thing occurred to me

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Ofc it could make in itself electricity charge

[bold crater]

Oooh, thenkies.

I still want Neuros to have electroreception.
-# not the best example but there ain't much examples

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So zombie aren’t only in game future, this is lore accurate ?

Zombie virus would be a virus that breakdown or normally hunts Dino’s and more

[lethal moat]

Maybe, maybe not, I don't lend any thought to it until I have more evidence

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electroreception is much more effective in water, probably why you don't see land animals with abilities like the electric eel
but it could strengthen the neuro - water connection

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I didn’t even know that they could be related to lore

[lethal moat]

I want more info first

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It could also disable electricity charges

[fast forge]

I don't think the current zombie event is too heavily tied into lore, from don's description it's something he threw together on the fly

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From other connections, not from body itself

[lethal moat]

Unofficial

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“We need to make badas$ Dino’s for Halloween”

[bold crater]

Could also go down the route of "game" a lil bit heehee.
I'm also kinda thinking of Infamous a bit where yer guy (whatever his name, Cole(?)) could send out a pulse and temporarily sense nearby electrical sources.

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#isle-lore-theories message

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There was something ( at least on wiki ) that Neuro can make EMP charge explosion

Same goes with mind manipulation

[lethal moat]

The wiki is sketchy as hell, and we haven't heard anything since legacy

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As I said to friend, I would rather end myself than face this thing in dark forest

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That’s what based on, still could be connected or not

Tissoplastic are perfect ambush hunters ( guess why… for me it sounds like thing for hunts, and who want a very good weapons for hunt ? Humans that are ruling world )

[lethal moat]

We aren't sure tisso are stealthy, just that they regenerate really quickly

[fast forge]

we don't know if old tisso lore still holds

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So perfect hunters

[lethal moat]

Debatable

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Based on concept art this would make sense that are the very fast and stealth hunters

[fast forge]

evrima concept art?

official?

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

Go back and read this stuff
#isle-lore-theories message
He really does connect tissos with the halloween event

[lethal moat]

Yeah

But

I'd like more than vague comments before theorizing

[hexed forge]

My discord keeps glitching AND IT DOESNT SHOW ME THE MESSAGE AHHHHHHH

[fast forge]

oh wait I mistook that monkey paw gif for the other time he did it with zombie tissos

[lethal moat]

For SHAME

[fast forge]

We do know there is a protocol for a zombie outbreak in the lore

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Guys I need help

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Shoot

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True, but I dont think they are exactly 1:1 the same.

[lethal moat]

Exactly

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They got me, I got two or three times black screen for discord and it crashed, now it force updated AE know about us, run, hide

[hexed forge]

Like in-game zombies ≠ Lore "zombies"

Just a possiblity

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Okay I am back, i shooted something idk what. It made such weird noise

[fast forge]

but he did confirm to you that there is a lore connection with the halloween event
perhaps only as far as those protocols he mentioned, but we were calling it a zombie outbreak and he had talked about a "dead jungle"

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 airdrop inbound

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Send the cages

[hexed forge]

Still doesn't deny the possibility

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Size 3, for animal weight 1 to 3 Tons

Maybe Phoenix isn’t accurate lore now, but back then Phoenix was hostile to Apollo or Apollo was hostile to Phoenix ?

[lethal moat]

#1167557586699178054 message I would highly reccomend reading through this

[hexed forge]

Apollo was hostile to phoenix iirc

Might be both

[lethal moat]

Pheonix is gone, there's RF and EC now

[acoustic osprey]

It was both
but Apollo made the final straw

[hexed forge]

But I know that Apollo stole Phoenix assets back then

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

technically
the CEO of Phoenix organised operation inferno

that being, Lawrence Carter

practically killed Phoenix

[hexed forge]

Lol, and then he went missing ! (Actually that might be modern PCE lore)

[acoustic osprey]

eh, maybe, can't rememebr much

i probably could find it somewhere if it does exist

[hexed forge]

Modern PCE

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RF is something similar to Phoenix or very different ?

[lethal moat]

Both are rival companies

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
who knows

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That lore was perfect

Operation Inferno my beloved

[hexed forge]

Erm

Operation New Dawn !!

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And what RF Stands for ?

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We dont know

[lethal moat]

We don't know either

[fast forge]

Radio Frequency

[hexed forge]

Now wouldnt it be funny if EC was EvrimaCorp

Nice reference to the current time.. since in the future Evrima wont really exist. Its just going to be "The Isle"

https://tenor.com/view/so-old-gif-27277116

[fast forge]

that would be funny

[fossil arch]

We wouldn’t know what happened next Operation Inferno ended successfully

Also Hades protocol was near end and then that all went over the start again

And now, we would ask for old legacy lore or for the new evrima one ?

[lethal moat]

Ask for Evrima lore, I beg of you

https://tenor.com/view/old-boomer-history-84years-many-years-ago-gif-18534104

[acoustic osprey]

lol

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Legacy is dead, so maybe some day don will reveal the secrets

100% that they is thing related to evrima

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The secrets...

The secrets are scrambled eggs all over the place..

It changed too much

[acoustic osprey]

i remember a tweet he made showing his old legacy lore hard drive

[fossil arch]

How many TB ?

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https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-crying-cry-sad-gif-5327560302222529519

[hexed forge]

Rumple doesnt like legacy I assume..

[acoustic osprey]

no idea

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I would like to make operation undergarden wich would be stealing files

[lethal moat]

1 week until devblorg

[fossil arch]

1. Need remote access
2. Need time
3. Files are mine

[hexed forge]

Im hoping for UI, if it doesnt come in a phase three this week or next week

[fossil arch]

If encrypted then use brut force

[lethal moat]

Riot

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Imagine the cyber attack on Apollo

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[hexed forge]

Don has gotten away with not showing us Vats for several months after saying soon.... He shall not get away this time

[fossil arch]

Meha Quetzl

RoboQuetzl

[lethal moat]

Drone quetz

[fossil arch]

It would be easy target for taking control

But need a lot for sabotage

[acoustic osprey]

lore drop in june...

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That’s why remote control things are scary… much more if they relay on cyber safety

[lethal moat]

Might not be worth it, depends how well the cybernetics actually work

[fossil arch]

Hostile to Apollo corporation would spend any money to take down Apollo

This is market, they hate each other and they makes plans

[lethal moat]

Is it worth that money, and do they have enough?

[fossil arch]

Yes, if yo can expose those things it would like to make civilians mad

For that brutal and tragic experiments

[lethal moat]

Or you can keep it for yourself

[hexed forge]

yay..

[fossil arch]

Good ending, but other corporation still want to destroy you

They will do anything

[lethal moat]

Kill them first

[fossil arch]

That’s mean economic war, and crisis

Who ever got more money and good use it will win

[lethal moat]

Or airdrop gen 1 (this has happened)

[fossil arch]

Or use sabotage and expose that corporation as bad and blame for things you have done to cancel it

[fast forge]

oh shoot I still have a video concept to flesh out...

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You have a lot of proof for “them”

Not good if FBI would look into this

[lethal moat]

Just kill the sabatours in a way that sends a message, don't let them hurt you, but don't draw too much attention to yourself

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Or maybe government is already in that

[lethal moat]

Maybe AE is too big for government oversight

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Or they are government

[lethal moat]

Or important

Eh

We know Dondi said he was staying away from government stuff

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Nothing is too big where politics won’t place their fat fingers

[fossil arch]

But government of our world or lore

[lethal moat]

Both likely

[fossil arch]

Then it cuts my ideas of 12%

[lethal moat]

mhm

[fossil arch]

But why Apollo was created

Who made it, and why

[lethal moat]

Good question

I'd also love to know

[fossil arch]

We need answers from legacy

They legacy is a key

[lethal moat]

Legacy is a blurry mirror

[fossil arch]

Future without past means nothing

[fossil arch]

But still gives more info

[lethal moat]

More and good aren't the same

[fossil arch]

But still we know more for legacy than evrima

We stopped before Olympus made operation Hades countdown

[lethal moat]

I need more for Evrima

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Legacy is a key for it

[lethal moat]

Nahhhh

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Related things still exist

[lethal moat]

Hints, sure, but not enough or accurate enough for me to rely on it, just speculation

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Legacy has already build lore, so evrima prob relate on some scheme

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That’s why we need more hints for legacy

[lethal moat]

Right, but sorting out accurate and outdated is difficult

[lethal moat]

That serves zero purpose, just give more Evrima stuff, legacy is dead

[fossil arch]

First question should be asked “When, why and who created Apollo”

[lethal moat]

Just ask that for Evrima

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-no-nope-not-doing-it-never-gif-16758419287806165606

[fossil arch]

I want to know all end of legacy to hop on evrima

[hexed forge]

Legacy is an unfinished mess, there is no end.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-still-holding-on-let-it-go-the-last-jedi-star-wars-gif-25463932

[fossil arch]

There is, a gap where everything ended

[fossil arch]

There are many important things, that we could base on ( not actual informations ) but schemes to understood creation of new ones

[lethal moat]

Legacy is scrapped, there is no purpose to it other than entertainment, it doesn't correlate to Evrima

[lethal moat]

Then just ask those questions for Evrima to get accurate information instead of introducing wiggle room for Dondi to do the vague thing

[fossil arch]

We could use psychology and human brain tricks to force understanding of don’s minding in making this things

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-4375529952616887689

[hexed forge]

oh no, Did discord ban the gif

[fossil arch]

Need to wait for stream of don to come alive

[fossil arch]

You will understand this in future, 2-7 years

[hexed forge]

IT DOESNT WORK NOOOOOOOOOOO

[fossil arch]

Psychological experiments from Cold War was only start

[lethal moat]

You're strange

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Thanks my friend

[hexed forge]

Lol

[fossil arch]

Some says I am psychopath

Sorry too sleepy to mind

You don’t know what my brain contains… what sort of data and I am not even including game lore… things happened irl and are same scary as Apollo or even more…

But this is lore for game so we shouldn’t talk about it here.. but also relating to this things is i portent to know what can happened….

[lethal moat]

Cool

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Yeah

Now let’s go back to work, reset successful. Anything more we need to talk ?

[lethal moat]

We've discussed almost everything we currently have to no end

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Oh… we are on end ? That’s bad

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit?pli=1&tab=t.0 Read this for future questions

[fossil arch]

Oki

Brb better not to be caught

[hexed forge]

Someone should make a Lore document version for this

[fossil arch]

So okay I am going now to sleep

So guys thank you very much for this awesome time and a lot or good stories, we will see next time o7

[lethal moat]

Peace out

[wispy sundial]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968243716156444702/1286545677421248533/vidu-high-performance-general-4-2024-09-15T01_42_36Z-2.gif

[low scarab]

Ui

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[low scarab]

Maybe it will be Halloween….

[bold crater]

Imagine if N-Spino created localized storms around itself huehue
-# yes like a certain 3-headed dragon alien okay fine yes

[hexed forge]

If Neuros weakness is the sun and being dry then it could make sense to bring back that piece of lore ngl.

[bold crater]

Has there been official mention of Neuros needing to stay moist? 😮
I thought that was a fan suggestion

[hexed forge]

Its speculation.

Gotta connect the dots.

[bold crater]

Ah.
I used to dislike the idea a bit since usually, it was suggested purely because it was the opposite of a Hyper's weakness. It felt uncreative.
But I've warmed up to it lately since uh....yeah it actually kinda makes sense when ya take the Neuro's.....jellyness into account.

[hexed forge]

Yeah

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/drwho-ladycassandra-moisturize-skinlady-doctor-who-gif-5808910

Makes me wonder if they'd lean more on the nocturnal side as well. Less sun that way.

[hexed forge]

Yeah same, they probably would honestly.

Tissos and Neuros become the nightmare of GUTS

[bold crater]

Now, what would it be that limits Tissoplastics.....hrmmm.
Somethin' telling me something similar to Hypers in the sense that their bodies can't keep up with....something.

Like if Tissoplastic is all about regeneration, it might be something related to that that limits them.
Like their bodies kinda go into overdrive eventually and they just become mush

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chiquichico-gif-26004262

Fire maybe, that could be a tisso vulnerability.

[hexed forge]

FIREEE

Unless their regeneration abilities outlast the fire.. somehow...

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-makora-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-15349122341911766662

[bold crater]

Perhaps!
Though I'm thinking more so a natural weakness that limits how long they stick around since Kissen mentioned all strains will be temporary, not just Hypers.

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

Could it be related to the halloween event maybe?

Tissos need food to support their regenerative abilities... maybe..? Or else they just rot to death

[bold crater]

That sounds like Hypers though 😮
Unless they share similar weaknesses. I mean it'd make sense, but I wonder.....

Hypers have a crazy jacked-up metabolism
Tissoplastics constantly burn energy regenerating

[hexed forge]

Hypers need food to simply not starve.

Tissos need food to not rot to death

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-23833941

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm ye

[bold crater]

Actually, I'm now curious of Hypers having insane regeneration is even a thing anymore. Was in the past.

[fast forge]

Imagine if we get wet and dry seasons
and you know neuros show up during the storms

[hexed forge]

Droughts surely are coming, since there is literally a mutation that mentions them.

[fast forge]

yeah

[bold crater]

"Ah, the Wet Season has come early this year!.....oh cripes, the Wet Season is early"

[fast forge]

I've just been thinking about it recently

[bold crater]

Would be nice if Barometric Sensitivity....worked.

[hexed forge]

Hahha... maybe when they work on droughts.. maybe..

[bold crater]

[meager junco]

An idea from me and rump

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-frog-waving-frog-in-water-water-pipe-gif-16394331

[lethal moat]

My initial thought for it was that neuro don’t cause rain, they just come out when it rains because they can, like worms

[hexed forge]

Thats fair

[bold crater]

Like worms, huh.
Mmmhm.

[patent ginkgo]

[hexed forge]

The worm is gone

Into tartarus

[bold crater]

Where do you think
it
came from

[hexed forge]

Definitely an uncool place

[lethal moat]

Totally forgot about that lol

[lethal moat]

Tartarus is really cool, you should like, go down there or something and let me know what you see

[hexed forge]

Never called tartarus uncool

What ever place the worm comes from is uncool

[median furnace]

Tisso herrera

[mortal hound]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-council-quantumania-council-of-kangs-immortus-gif-7625101405612290361

[median furnace]

Fitting

[lofty swallow]

posting this here for ben respect

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/956013699443863612/Ben_Cannon_anim_by_Sevra_1.gif

[hexed forge]

@ornate comet

[ornate comet]

sup

OH

YEAHHHHHHHH BEN POSTING WOOOO

[lofty swallow]

if ben isn't included for the isle live event of 2087 I will be very mad

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[lofty swallow]

yeah thought 2087 was a bit early, that seems about right

[acoustic osprey]

it is actually lore...

[hexed forge]

That may or may not be true !

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/unsure-not-sure-fifty-fifty-kind-of-kinda-gif-5703140

[acoustic osprey]

if it in the lore paper, it is the most lore you can get

[hexed forge]

Maybe it was meant to be covered by the black box, and its just an oopsie that we can see it.

Meaning that its just a random order of numbers!!

[acoustic osprey]

don't know if I can discuss what i want to

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-hiding-psych-psych-shawn-shawn-spencer-hiding-gif-14494172583383758130

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wizard-funny-meme-cat-meme-gif-18140937863831360552

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-tom-cruise-maverick-classified-secret-gif-5041272

[hexed forge]

UI next week please..

[acoustic osprey]

hope

[hexed forge]

Hope.

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[snow jasper]

Spero

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

Isla Valeda

[acoustic osprey]

false

[pale pelican]

anyone know where the isle's islands are based? is it like jurrassic park near costa rica?

[fast forge]

We don't know

[pale pelican]

still? damn

[lethal moat]

Our guess is somewhere around the southwest pacific usually

[pale pelican]

i wanted to look at vegetation for art sake, so thats a bummer

[lethal moat]

There's so much genetically altered vegetation, you can't really use it because it's from so many areas

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1h-hOsGnGZgbqUNI0-vu6ii-YtUM_D-sgfn1TfVw1d-g/edit?gid=0#gid=0 Courtesy of @patent ginkgo

[pale pelican]

oh damn

thank youu

[lethal moat]

No problem, lore community tries to get as much as they can

[pale pelican]

yeah i appreciate the help

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-giancarlo-esposito-gif-20959485

[pale pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-shirt-rip-gif-26569973

the isle maps have never felt cohesive or realistic to me, this bothers me greatly, thanks

[smoky sorrel]

https://tenor.com/view/starman-superman-hero-starman-superman-gif-5670562936153558097

[patent ginkgo]

[sly merlin]

Lore, is just… lore.

[mortal hound]

dude this spreadsheet is so cool, I'm proud of you

sorry if that sounds sarcastic I'm being 100% serious

really awesome

[fast forge]

It is quite good

Would be kinda nice to have a column for C3/C4/CAM

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

It's a plant metabolic pathway thing

[hexed forge]

Oh I see

[fast forge]

Essentially all plants on earth fall into one of these groups, but like 85% of all plants are just C3

Could be connected to climate change stuff, maybe

CAM plants are basically just cacti and succulents

[sonic rampart]

Orchids are all C4 yea?

[fast forge]

I don't know

[patent ginkgo]

I updated access so you should be able to comment. Feel free to put in that column and the info if you’d like, I’m a bit busy currently

[fast forge]

I was trying to research, but I don't think I know enough to make this easy

[patent ginkgo]

Oof

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sheev-palpatine-emperor-chancellor-kill-him-now-gif-14424446

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-starwars-darthvader-gif-5533636

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

[lethal moat]

We also have a vat of sulfuric acid on standby if you’d prefer that

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

I like the idea of various ratings, but also it’s probably best to just not interact if at all possible

[hexed forge]

But

I need to pet that hypsi

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-pet-that-dog-that-dawg-dawg-pet-that-dog-bear-dog-gif-14970386282193765062

[stiff lintel]

Hmm.. I can see it for most of these.

[brave aurora]

when will they finally drop an update to HT T_T

[carmine marsh]

not today.

[ornate comet]

I feel like carno should be up there at 4. A carno seeing a human in an open plain is just death

[ornate comet]

like honestly if I was working for AE id be most scared of carno just because of there being nothing you can do if it sees you

[stiff lintel]

If I was working for AE, I would require to have some form of safety. Especially in the form of firearms.

The M4A1 carbine and a Remington 870 would be the 2 weapons I would want.

[stiff lintel]

Especially since no one expects an attack from above.

[low scarab]

Dead chat

[hexed forge]

Yep.

Devblog will save the chat.. hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[low scarab]

Yea hopefully we get something cool for Halloween

Really liked that Troodon artwork from tap last time

[acoustic osprey]

heck we might get a lore video as well

seeing as we basically did last year (AUGUSTUS)

[low scarab]

That would be delicious

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

i'm placing my money on no lore video
seeing as there has basically been nothing on such

But if anything
Definitely a roadmap video

heck, maybe we see some more dates like the last one? Who knows

[median furnace]

what if we get nothing

[lethal moat]

That is a possibility

[hexed forge]

I shall place money on a Halloween video then

[lethal moat]

I’m not

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/owlkitty-pirates-pirates-of-the-caribbean-jack-sparrow-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-26780511

[low scarab]

Roadmap?

[fast forge]

@mellow thorn https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[mellow thorn]

this game used to be connected to PRIMAL CARNAGE??

[lethal moat]

Used to be, but no more

[fast forge]

Rumple, I have brought one for the replicator

[hexed forge]

I feel like we will get that at the end of the year for christmas or something.

[low scarab]

I sure hope so that would be awesome

[hexed forge]

Luck.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

#isle-discussion message
@chrome acorn
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png?ex=67214071&is=671feef1&hm=1df6fb245592e73890e97416e36d0b65d1b60c964565ce13deabd9aade91ea3b&

the best you'll get right now
is within this report

[hexed forge]

I assume the sweep teams are armed. Well, atleast some/most of each team probably. And a few were either carrying some special equipment or the lead.. detective(s)...?

[acoustic osprey]

i was going to say sweep teams might be more of an armed excursion/party that are tasked to 'subdue' any immediately close threats within the island

but, heck, it may be that sweep teams are more so, rather than being for 'subduing', are sent to make sure "X" locations with minor incident/petty threats are properly settled and are placed back to normal

[hexed forge]

Also not all of the sweep teams returned?

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

Interesting.

[acoustic osprey]

always the weirdest bit of ERRANT-291's report

like
the reviewer did not seem alarmed when writing it down

[chrome acorn]

Fatal cardiac arrest from getting shot in the back

[acoustic osprey]

just refer to the debrief!

[hexed forge]

Well, I don't think you would want to express how you feel in that moment in a formal report.

[acoustic osprey]

no not like that
like there is basically nothing reporting about what happened
nor did it seem like what happened was at all anything

no summing up of anything
like 'refer to 4'

what intrigues me the most is that WHAT happened to them?
and WHOM/WHAT did it to them?

[hexed forge]

Seems like there was a mini-incident during the process. Dinosaurs? Gen1?

Were they traveling in the wild? Was it not through a GUTS tunnel? Was the GUTS tunnel abandoned and filled with creatures? Is the entire/most of that island abandoned!!

[chrome acorn]

One team goes missing/didn’t return. maybe they know where they are/what happened and have a different report on that

[acoustic osprey]

they just forgot to take a right turn!
now they are stuck in the labryinth known as GUTS

[hexed forge]

Rest in pieces. Hopefully they dount encounter Ben.

[acoustic osprey]

if they were going to where ERRANT-291 was
GUTS yes

[lethal moat]

The non-Euclidian terrain temporarily came to life and consumed them

[hexed forge]

REFER TO FILE 291-D FOR TRANSCRIPTION OF DEBRIEF.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-only-natural-natural-palpatine-prequel-gif-20003800

[hexed forge]

Yes to what?

I listed like 10 different things.

[acoustic osprey]

definitely GUTS

[chrome acorn]

seems all entry ways are mapped or at least assumed to be

[ornate comet]

[hexed forge]

Perhaps that section of GUTS was not in full control of AE? Was there some sort of incident going on at that time?

[chrome acorn]

they re-establish a hard point so there must of been a soft spot in the security of that section they were sent to

wouldn’t be surprised if something went wrong in their sweep which would make re-establishing a hard point worthwhile

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
you have kms of tunnels

it is very hard to keep it all guarded

which is why sweet teams would be necessary
while still having checkpoint teams at major points of GUTS

[chrome acorn]

That or just the occurrence of a security breach in general

[lethal moat]

If you’ve got a squad of people patrolling, you can absolutely memorize the patterns and try and get as far in as you can

[acoustic osprey]

it is hard to tell because they don't completely describe it
but it is likely the whole situation happened within GUTS

IF the reading comprehension is any correct
it would be that ERRANT-291 was found in the GUTS tunnel of D (aka, coming from/going to OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER)

[hexed forge]

Snatched by a local passing herd of Minmis.

[acoustic osprey]

which would make sense
he was only found 7 minutes after his shift

likely going from where he works, which would be close (potentially G)
and went to OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER, then found out it was not working
and was then found

[lethal moat]

Agreed, but at what point did Errant 291 die

[chrome acorn]

On the way back

[acoustic osprey]

once being taken out of "X"

likely OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER's guts access

[hexed forge]

Honestly 5-7 minutes seems like a short distance for GUTS. Unless errant took a vehicle.

[acoustic osprey]

if this is within a facility (ATRIUM!!)
not really

[lethal moat]

As they were leaving

[hexed forge]

But is it in a facility...?

[acoustic osprey]

potentially, hence if

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=67213b01&is=671fe981&hm=2e2f157c2053a1f7b32ece1864d414cbce9ee20cdba4ff76f0fc090e2fdd26bf&
has to be in here
where that is

but i do not doubt that he may have used transport
i.e. Monorails

[hexed forge]

So what can this be...

[acoustic osprey]

anything really
underground specialised buildings (Tartarus)
etc

[lethal moat]

Poor guy walks through a doorway and instead of forgetting what they came there for they just immediately have a heart attack

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don’t-want-to-play-with-you-anymore-dont-wanna-play-woody-andy-toystory-gif-11601810263057558835

dies

[chrome acorn]

Heart failure from bullet

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt he would've been shot

[hexed forge]

I believe that the heart attack was on purpose. Errant commit suicide basically.

[lethal moat]

Might have been some sort of radio activated signal that triggered something to kill them if they left the underground

[chrome acorn]

the mother stops your heart

Spookums

[hexed forge]

If this is a spy, it could be that he was meant to take some sort of pill that kills him when he realizes he got caught.

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-moff-gideon-the-mandalorian-long-live-the-empire-galactic-empire-gif-25630686

[hexed forge]

Exactly.

[acoustic osprey]

(has an electric tooth that kills him if bitten - context)

[chrome acorn]

cardiac arrest is pretty specific not sure what pill/poison would be used but the usual cyanide tooth thing would have been rather obvious

[acoustic osprey]

would be in the autopsy report...

[lethal moat]

I can’t find a gif of the cyanide tooth from captain america

[lethal moat]

IF I HAD ANY

[hexed forge]

(AE never considered doing an autopsy report,

They got lazy.)

[lethal moat]

I think it might have been destroyed at some point

[chrome acorn]

maybe he just got super stressed

[hexed forge]

I think its possible that there is a pill that caused him to fall into fatal cardiac arrest.

[chrome acorn]

A bullet shaped pill fired from a tube after a casing was ignited by a firing pin

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257740793100238959/1297031596364402738/4x-1.gif

[acoustic osprey]

lol

i do wonder
seeing as Don is putting some papers into the game soon

If ERRANT-291 will also be there as well?

heck maybe even
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=67213b01&is=671fe981&hm=2e2f157c2053a1f7b32ece1864d414cbce9ee20cdba4ff76f0fc090e2fdd26bf&

maybe maybe even specifically placed to tell us 'this is where this place is located'

hopefully without the markings on it
so it is 'original' and not ERRANT-291s version

[hexed forge]

Oh please.

[hexed forge]

2172. 

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[hexed forge]

What did I do to the 2172. Its in a weird font.

The year is cursed.

[fast forge]

oh there's a salt lick at port

[acoustic osprey]

i thought you said you hope there was a salt lick lol

[hexed forge]

Also I hope that we get more papers, like perhaps a dilo/herrera glance sheet, etc.

[acoustic osprey]

i want to make a 'normal' version of this
but I have a feeling I'll be criticised again like when I did the same with the making an 'empty one' of the glance sheets

[acoustic osprey]

i preferably do not care much about the glance sheets
more so, that it is the more tame sheets we've seen

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[acoustic osprey]

'but dondi will make / has made a clean version already, lightclaw is just impatient!'

[hexed forge]

No one will probably say that. I dont think anyone will.

[acoustic osprey]

people did when i did the last one lol

'could've asked dondi - because i follow dondi a lot, he was going to release the sheet anyways'

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/those-guys-are-crazy-theyre-crazy-insane-those-guys-are-mad-snl80s-gif-12768050

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

[acoustic osprey]

yes, because if i ask Dondi, i'll get them immediately

[hexed forge]

Botany lore !!

[patent ginkgo]

could this be botany lore

this may be peak

[acoustic osprey]

NO botany lore till we get PLANT MAKER

[hexed forge]

Probably.

JOLLY ^

[acoustic osprey]

^

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1268341207713452083/58BB6E35-31BF-432A-85B6-64CC8D321139.gif

hyper plants could be a possibility, especially if these things are meant to give lots of food

[low scarab]

I missed dondi today massive w

[hexed forge]

If we are lucky..

[low scarab]

You know I wish we could get to see some more lore related YouTube videos

Almost Kane pixels style ig that kind of documentation in the form of leaked Apollo content or something

[fast forge]

I think he's been in and out

sounds like he'll be in HT when the patch is up

[pseudo fable]

Why care about anyone's opinion online? Do what you want.

[lethal moat]

Solid advice

[hexed forge]

mhm

[pseudo fable]

They are criticising your choice in a game about dinosaurs. There is nothing for them to stand on.

Imagine being that person.

[lethal moat]

You do you, people who make your business their problem aren't worth dealing with anyways

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks man, I really appreciate it

I do enjoy doing them
That is what matters the most I do suppose!

[proper notch]

Isn't that your entire role as a moderator lmfao.

[lethal moat]

There's a difference between doing something you enjoy and breaking the clearly listed rules

[proper notch]

Ah, I see the point of your first message now. I digress.

[spark mesa]

lol

Didn’t realize I was on the lore channel

[latent chasm]

So what are the lore theories for this game?

[lethal moat]

I’d recommend starting here, as it’s all the confirmed stuff we think we know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit