isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

I assume I could post all my evidence in Lorecord so I dont fill up this channel with images.. keep in mind... its from ChatGPT.

yay

The forward feature actually works

[robust nest]

Nice.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bored-pusheen-bread-cat-i-did-this-gif-17242566

[robust nest]

The jaundice part wouldn't make too much sense, as it's just a buildup of bilirubin and causes discoloration and such. It could indicate liver failure, but that's about it. Neurologic and hemorrhagic make more sense.

[hexed forge]

Yea, I was skeptical about the Jaundice part.

[robust nest]

I'm trying different starting mutations and still haven't landed the zombie mutation.

[hexed forge]

The NHJ-INF/UND Mutation?

[robust nest]

Correct

[hexed forge]

Did you get infected?

[robust nest]

I did last night, but I forgot to check what happened to my mutations, rip.

[hexed forge]

Ah damn, yeah you have to be either infected or already a zombie to actually see the mutation

[robust nest]

I've been filtering through them to see if there are any sneaky changes. Nothing so far. Part of me wonders if the NH is a nod to neurotenic/hypoendocrin strains from legacy.

[alpine lynx]

doesn't zombie species rot and die overtime

[hexed forge]

It does yes

[hexed forge]

I have a strong feeling that the N stands for "Neuro"(The Neuro Strain), because it makes the most sense with all the connections to it. But Im not sure about the H

[robust nest]

My weird fan theory is that it was an attempt to combine neurotenic and hypo and the zombie strain is the unintended result

looking back at the neuro's concept art.. eek. I can see it

[alpine lynx]

i feel like they are releated to a unsuccessfull experiment

or they are naturally caused in the wild

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-maybe-not-dingam-the-departed-probably-perhaps-gif-313196895503001922

My theory is that its connected to Tissos venom

[robust nest]

oooh

[alpine lynx]

how tho

[robust nest]

I can see that, too yeah. I really hope they drop us some halloween lore at some point I'd love that

[alpine lynx]

from what i can see zombies are far more powerfull than their normal versions

[lethal moat]

Halloween lore vs UI update images, both is good

[alpine lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[hexed forge]

I forgot that we are even supposed to get the UI images this month haha

[hexed forge]

Healing capabilities

Eating heals them

[alpine lynx]

theres also a healing mutation for normal dinosaurs

does that mean its releated to tisso venom

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[alpine lynx]

plus wouldn't healing capabilities gave them a new body, new skin etc?

i mean like a normal dinosaur, not a torn up flesh

[hexed forge]

Good point

[robust nest]

unless it's something that goes horribly wrong. When cell regeneration goes south, it gets ugly.

[alpine lynx]

but it still manages to replicate the skin

[robust nest]

That's what happens with cancer cells, essentially. The super simplified version.

[alpine lynx]

it doesn't stays torn up

organs near falling out

[robust nest]

It could be just enough to sustain them, but not actually regen

[alpine lynx]

also why would a braindead walking flesh need some food

i understand the part of attacking

because they need to spread the infection

[robust nest]

Perhaps it's not actually dead in a sense? If whatever strain is causing cell regeneration, it could be keeping the base parts of the brain active. It still has that prey drive. And as you state, the strain is using that to spread the infection.

[alpine lynx]

logically a animal can't handle that pain

[hexed forge]

What if it cant feel the pain

[alpine lynx]

at some point they would die because of blood loss or pain

[alpine lynx]

what about blood loss

[hexed forge]

Zombies cant bleed out, proven ingame. I got it recorded.

I was just stuck at 0% blood until I healed it

So we can heal any lost blood

[alpine lynx]

so that means they can stay alive without blood

it literally means they are actually dead

something manages to controll it

also they are alot more durable than normal dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

Are they?

[robust nest]

I haven't had a chance to test that, but I am curious!

[alpine lynx]

yes, we hardly took out a zombie teno with 3 carno yesterday

[hexed forge]

Parasite?

[meager junco]

Tbf, teno destroys current Carno at least from my experience

[hexed forge]

Oh it just gets revived, back to full hp.

[alpine lynx]

yes but we were 3 carno's

[hexed forge]

Im not sure if its even a bug or if its intended

[meager junco]

I fought off 2 without going into yellow health

Actually killed both as well

[alpine lynx]

from what i can see zombie dinosaurs are actually more durable/stronger

[hexed forge]

I dont think they are, they are just set back to full hp

[alpine lynx]

that means they are stronger

[meager junco]

I’m just saying that cause 2 dryos were able to kill a zombie juvie Carno with ease

So I don’t think they’re more durable

[hexed forge]

It might be a bug

[alpine lynx]

maybe

also zombie dinosaurs can cross talk

[hexed forge]

Yep

So there is some more Neuro evidence in there

[alpine lynx]

or the thing controlling and causing these is able to communicate with other ones

[hexed forge]

Neuro goo parasite

[meager junco]

I mean I was just saying neuro yesterday because it’s the only official strain that had a sort of “disease” going for them

[alpine lynx]

wait can they talk with normal dinosaurs? i guess not

[meager junco]

Neuro goo

[hexed forge]

They cannot

[alpine lynx]

so that means its not releated to neuro

neuro's can talk with any species

[hexed forge]

But then where does the Tisso Zombie thing come into play? What if its not related to this event at all

[meager junco]

Well you know the gif don sent?

[hexed forge]

It could be some low developed Neuro goo, AEs first unperfected experiment

[meager junco]

That’s the cursed monkey paw from THOH 3 or 4
Basically you get your wish but at a terrible cost.

[hexed forge]

yes

[meager junco]

Maybe that cost is it isn’t tisso

[alpine lynx]

i believe that it might releated to the virus/bacteria/parasite

[hexed forge]

Same

[alpine lynx]

i mean think that you are in a elephants body

and theres another people in a lions body

you are literally the same species (the one controlling the host)

wouldn't you'd be able to communicate with the other controller

even the hosts are diffirent species

i believe that the parasite is able to communicate with other parasites

[kindred bobcat]

So, remember when devs said it’s a last minute event thing

[fast forge]

yeah I think at best it has minor connections to tisso, and no connections to neuro

[hexed forge]

Hm?

[fast forge]

I think pretzel just means, don't look too far into it

[kindred bobcat]

The diseases

[hexed forge]

Too late

Im going to continue digging

[lethal moat]

Tisso are said to regen limbs/organs, so this may be related to tisso stuff, but probably not the strain itself

[hexed forge]

I still want to believe that its tied to Tissos venom

[robust nest]

I want to beliieeeeve

the horror lore enthusiast in me wants more

[fast forge]

idk don basically told us it's related to tissos with that monkey's paw gif

[hexed forge]

Tbf, that was weeks before we even knew about a halloween event.

So it might not be connected to the event

[nimble fractal]

Or could spark an idea for the event

Whatever it could be, the current zombie respawn system and morphing can be easily related to visible mutation changes

[fast forge]

he had probably just finished with the concept for the halloween event

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[fast forge]

You can say maybe, but this event has zombies, and zombie tissos are a thing, soooooo

And it's not like we've seen zombies anywhere else in the lore

And we know tissos are tied to bodily regeneration, like what the zombies do when they eat somebody

[lethal moat]

More proto-strain theories might be necessary

[fast forge]

yeah it might not be the full-blown tisso strain, just a variant

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[lethal moat]

Giant crabs, zombies, and ||blank||
OH MY

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Made a poor attempt at pun

[hexed forge]

Oh lol.

[lethal moat]

I also managed to spell pun wrong 3 times

[hexed forge]

Lol

[fast forge]

punt

[robust nest]

had me for a second there -_-

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-movie-punt-kick-donewiththis-gif-26537188

[lethal moat]

Rude

[hexed forge]

Lol

[patent ginkgo]

Wrong chat

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sir-gregor-clegane-game-of-thrones-mountain-vs-drunk-the-mountain-got-gregor-clegane-gif-5085620039867258042

"This thing is no longer cano- YOU ARE NO LONGER ALIVE"

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[lethal moat]

I was unaware the invisible wall goes around the entirety of docks

[hexed forge]

Its a cube

Before time began.. There was a cube..

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[lethal moat]

Have we tried getting around it with a ptera?

[hexed forge]

Its big

Tiny couldnt do it with Ptera

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

The mega cylinder TM

[hexed forge]

If it isn't fixed next patch I will be disappointed

[robust nest]

Dang, docks are under construction I guess lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-gif-13767303

[fast forge]

well I was kind of rushing it, my attempts weren't exactly systematic

If you flew from on top of volcano or something and tried to go over you could probably do it, idk

I just got maybe 10 or 20 meters above the trees

[bright shoal]

hey that spot is where i died as a Galli earlier

[acoustic osprey]

same

[lethal moat]

Blood pit

[fast forge]

hey lets see how tall this barrier is

[lethal moat]

I believe

[fast forge]

I crashed a second after taking this

[lethal moat]

Shoot

[fast forge]

crashed here too

[lethal moat]

Wireless fence

[fast forge]

it extends out to the blue force field

in the ocean

[lethal moat]

Oh no

[fast forge]

I think it's intentional, they don't want us over there for some reason

maybe something is cracked open and they don't want us inside

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-yoda-gif-21714315

[fast forge]

.

[zenith frigate]

are we not able to glitch inside using /unstuck

[fast forge]

I didn't think of that

[radiant frost]

Does dilo have better vision than other dinosaurs? It's confusing because they do so many updates while I'm not playing the game

[zenith frigate]

each dino has different levels to their night vision dilo is on the higher end of the spectrum
also wrong place to ask

[zenith frigate]

it has a roof

i will not be defeated though

[zenith frigate]

I have been defeated

[acoustic osprey]

lol

can you climb on it as a herrera?

[zenith frigate]

dont think a full adult has the stam to make the climb

juvies do though

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[median shuttle]

tried that, it just teleported me back the way I came from

[hexed forge]

I don't think it's a wall, it's an actual cube

[hexed forge]

Well interesting cube.. 1 cube and 1 rectangle !!

I doubt that the devs are intentionally doing this so they can hide something from us. I think it's a bug

[carmine marsh]

have you tried using replays to look inside?

[hexed forge]

I think some people did, im not sure tho, but I doubt there's anything for us to find

[carmine marsh]

it just seems strange to block it off for no reason.

one patch after they happily announced the dock was expanded.

[hexed forge]

That's why I think it's a bug

[acoustic osprey]

even if we did, a large reason for us wanting to see inside is while we're zombies

unsure if replay mode would show what "we' would see as zombies

however, though, it is likely the zombie mutation is just a bit of nothing burger (for the reasons we theorised)

[hallow rover]

Theres a zombie mutation?

[fast forge]

not a mutation, an event

[hallow rover]

Ive been playing this HT for over 4 hours over the last few days and ive yet to see a single zombie

Does this invisible barrier block everything from entering docks? If so i have been in docks this HT cause i logged in in there from the last HT

[fast forge]

We found that when you turn into a zombie the text on your mutations becomes all jumbled and random, and us lore folks were hoping there is some hidden message on them (probably not). This is what he meant by zombie mutation

[hallow rover]

ah i see

[acoustic osprey]

a mutation(s) for zombies

albeit, one might argue, that therefore the presence of this mutation makes it so zombies are a 'mutation'
Just not the typical Evrima mechanic-type of mutation

[hallow rover]

I just hope i find one before the event ends, they seem to avoid me like the plague

[acoustic osprey]

ironic

apparently, though, we can summon the zombie infection without the devs

we just don't know how to do it

[hallow rover]

Yea i saw Dondi mention that, i hope we do end up finding out eventually

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

i have a feeling we won't find out

anyone who does know seem to be ||gatekeeping|| not telling us

but
I understand not wanting to tell, not to share the surprise

but it is painful for those who haven't had the chance to try though

I've been a zombie a few times now though. I can't argue.

[hallow rover]

Yea I've not even seen one yet and I've done a few circles of the map this HT

[acoustic osprey]

rip

[fast forge]

I've seen zombies twice, never been one myself

[hallow rover]

If i get to be one atleast once ill be happy, if i go through this whole event not being one and miss it it will annoy me until next year

[fast forge]

you think people have found it and they are gatekeeping it?

[hallow rover]

Do zombies sound different or do they just look different

[fast forge]

I've heard they sound like someone out of breath

And they smell like organs, that's how I found one the first time. I was playing cerato and it just looked like a pile of organs moving across my radar

[hallow rover]

Ah ok, that should help me find one

[hallow rover]

What if the way to keep zombies going is as simple as nesting?

[nimble fractal]

I tred to eat a ton of bones and rotten meat as raptor yesterday, grew to 30% and nothing happened. I will try more today, keeping the diet of only eating rotten meat+leftovers

[hallow rover]

worth a try

[tiny bobcat]

it might be a command or smt but im not sure i tried things like /infect or /zombie or /zombify but none of it worked so im not sure if we can actually do it without a dev

[hexed forge]

Or they just don't know that it's a rare thing

They think that's its public info

What if you swim in some sort of infected water

[lethal moat]

That constant fear that some random finds something significant and never shares

[hexed forge]

I had that fear during the lorehunt

[low scarab]

that constant fear that we will never hear about that horn stream teaser again

[hexed forge]

What

[lethal moat]

I’ve decided I think that was just bait

[low scarab]

likely

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/quagsire-pokemon-wooper-huh-huhh-gif-10333941026352545707

[hexed forge]

I thought about this again, and what if the lore correlation is the "Chemical leak"?

Im just shooting several ideas so we dont stick to 1 possible theory on how to replicate the virus

[hexed forge]

4:20:53

They fixed the stairs in C14

[acoustic osprey]

Yes Don said so

[hexed forge]

He said they are gatekeeping it?

Or is it more of that they just dont know they discovered something

[crystal cairn]

maybe the better question is, how does patient 0 begin

" Modern media depictions of the reanimation of the dead often do not involve magic but rather science fictional methods such as fungi, radiation, gases, diseases, plants, bacteria, viruses, etc.[1][2]"

fungi hmm

[lethal moat]

My guess is that it's some sort of precurser to the tisso strain

[crystal cairn]

rewatching the kav zombie vid.... was dondi the little carno? or the first cerato zombie? this is important

https://youtu.be/KPs4KUEHOCk?si=QAAGqDMg85Dw4ouR&t=141
timestamped

[hexed forge]

Command

Well thats how the devs became a zombie

[hexed forge]

There could be some random infected plant in a middle of a jungle

But I assume it has to be a known place since random players were able to find it...

[patent ginkgo]

have we tried the cannibal mutation?

[acoustic osprey]

No
In terms of finding it

[hexed forge]

Its not that, because herbivores should be able to get infected too

Dont think of anything only carnivore related

[patent ginkgo]

i mean, that doesnt make sense

carnivore infects itself, then infects herbivores

[fast forge]

Maybe it's a vial of goo inside a base, and you hold E on it

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-odin-no-kratos-god-of-war-gif-27131911

[fast forge]

Or maybe there are rare zombie animals

A boar that infects you

[crystal cairn]

hmm so uh

almost thought I was onto something but it fixed itself

[ruby summit]

what did u do?

[crystal cairn]

logged in and puked instantly, it looked like this

safelogged and came back and it looked like second image but technically its still just normal sickness as pointed out by @sharp agate

false alarm ty smeasel

[ruby summit]

what happens if you safe loggged as a zombie then joined back after the event was over would you still have it?

[sharp agate]

[crystal cairn]

nope

[sharp agate]

@crystal cairn when you tagged me my first thought was, "someone is inquiring about my troodon hivemother headcannon"

[hexed forge]

Perchance

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

I will hop on and do a marathon in 30 minutes

Hopping on now

[snow jasper]

that makes me curious, how fast can john cake run

then just work out how long for he can run, and we'll have a fixed statistic on his aethletic capability

[hexed forge]

18km/h iirc

[snow jasper]

just a matter of how long then

[hexed forge]

#isle-discussion message

[hexed forge]

If its in the Dockyard I will explode

Because we cant even access it !! YAYY

[snow jasper]

im faster and better than john cake

he can run 7 km before getting out breath

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-square-pants-work-out-muscles-flex-nickelodeon-gif-3580600

[hexed forge]

Okay which base should I check...

[zenith frigate]

do we know where the infection usually starts
it seemed like it was south plains everytime

[hexed forge]

Well thats because its a semi-hotspot, zombies couldve went there because it was the obvious choice to look for action

But I seen Don stick around the Dockyard a lot

When the HT began

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-fry-hmm-squinting-gif-4973356107513966870

[hexed forge]

sigh

Ima go check The docks

[lethal moat]

Find a way in

[zenith frigate]

Filipe said it was a dev command only
Don said some people figured out a way
so its likely some bug

[lethal moat]

I believe

[zenith frigate]

i climbed all over the docks theres no way in

this corner though is open

[hexed forge]

Noted,

Coming.

[hexed forge]

We must believe

[crystal cairn]

my thoughts exactly. something unintended which is why I got excited when my dryo had that weird sickness

[hexed forge]

Did you ever log on that Dryo this HT before?

Or was it the first time logging on that Dryo this HT

Because if its a dino from the previous HT, its just a bug that everyone got. Effects of the diet system

[crystal cairn]

nope it was my first time

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, so you spawned in?

[crystal cairn]

no like

yes it was my first time logging onto that same dryo since last ht

but it never happened to me on other dinos but I think they were cerato maybe thats why

[hexed forge]

Ah,

Yeah its a common bug. Happened to everyone

[crystal cairn]

yeah but after I safe logged and logged back in out of curiosity was when I got the secondary effect

which is why I felt reporting it in anyways

maybe it was a bug with that process yknow?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-maybe-not-dingam-the-departed-probably-perhaps-gif-313196895503001922

We are starving for lore anyway, so this is something that we must do to keep our stomachs well fed

Also as soon as I find that person that is gatekeeping information.... (Unless Don specifically told them to do so..)

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-angry-furious-choking-choke-gif-9806984

This is back

[zenith frigate]

replay mode shows nothing different at docks
unless its something small like pieces of paper

[zenith frigate]

this doesnt look familiar

[lethal moat]

They disassembled the PC

[hexed forge]

Yea its new

Lots of new items across all structures

[hexed forge]

Almost there

[crystal cairn]

just type the mutation command in the chatbox

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[crystal cairn]

what was it again?

[hexed forge]

.

[lethal moat]

NHJ-INF : N&%J3 , 81U$&#@0

[crystal cairn]

nothing happened, I'll wait till my next mutation is available and try again

[zenith frigate]

/zombie

[hexed forge]

nothing at the open Dock spot

Anddd my galli died

[hexed forge]

/infect

[crystal cairn]

try importing it as the skin code

[hexed forge]

oh. OOO

My skin creator crashed

It just sent me back to the menu

[crystal cairn]

[crystal cairn]

but if you think about it

unofficials can change player's skins in game

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/concentrated-hardlook-stare-jacksparrow-johnny-depp-gif-13228294628191696121

[hexed forge]

Don,

For the funsies. Plis

[hexed forge]

They can yeah, which is against the TOS but I guess the devs dont care

[crystal cairn]

maybe they don't care atm because it's necessary

[hexed forge]

Lets put ourselves in the mind of a normal Isle player, works a 9-5 job and comes back home from work, and plays the fun little halloween event.

What do we do

I wish Don was here to answer questions

Well I put the skin code in and nothing happened

[crystal cairn]

is that your normal juvie skin

was worth a shot

[hexed forge]

Were the players actively looking at how to become a zombie without being infected
Or did it just randomly happen and they dont know how.

[crystal cairn]

personally based on the wording I think the later

[lethal moat]

Might be worth scouring the bases

[hexed forge]

"Some people have figured out how to reinvite the infection after server reset without our intervention. "

Followed with "Life finds a way" gif

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-gif-20060129

I12, East Dome, H6, D10, C14, Perimeter, Swamp Tunnel, K15,

Everything

Heck I even checked the volcano cave

Unless I missed it, which I dont think I did. But....

[lethal moat]

Hmm, might be worth trying more commands to see if anything works

[hexed forge]

I honestly doubt it would just be a command. I dont think Don would want that

[crystal cairn]

there's also a chance that the unintentional infected were patched out

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[crystal cairn]

do you have a link to start of the conversation?

[hexed forge]

#isle-discussion message

I was wrong, it was Isle discussion. My bad

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt so

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cry-spongebob-squarepants-gif-24438933

[zenith frigate]

[crystal cairn]

hmm

you guys should ask this guy what he was up to

[hexed forge]

@near nebula We need you.

https://tenor.com/view/ace-ventura-thats-it-thats-right-gif-18871932

[fast forge]

What did I miss?

[lethal moat]

Just trying to figure out zombie stuff

[hexed forge]

Yeah,

How to get infected without being bitten by a zombie

Its making me go insane

I started talking to myself ingame

[normal olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568284971337252866/1253981891539894336/caption.gif

[hexed forge]

What if its dying with vomit sickness?

[lethal moat]

I already tried drowning with it as a ptera

[hexed forge]

Vomit sickness from overeating, rotten food, saltwater, etc

[hexed forge]

oh, damn.

Have vomit sickness and then get to third stage with troodon venom... !!

Thats too specific probably lol

[near nebula]

i fell through a wall and he randomly teleported to me and got me out , i dont know what he was doing there though

[hexed forge]

Thank you.

Im going to go check the docks this patch

[fast forge]

oh wow new new patch

right as I got home

[hexed forge]

Cram us into NA 3 to start the infection outbreak

Sadge

[fast forge]

I'm in

[hexed forge]

Same

[fast forge]

invisible wall is still there

I know we expected it, but I was still hopeful...

[hexed forge]

Yeah...

[patent ginkgo]

someone on the server got infected without contact

[fast forge]

So last I saw they had flattened this area out, but I was just over there trying to see anything past the invisible barrier

and it looks like they actually added the road there now

it will go into a tunnel there, and the tunnel might be there already? It was just too oblique of an angle to see in

[hexed forge]

Who. Tell.

Or just honestly it couldve been a dev that used the command on a random person lol.

[fast forge]

Wasn't there something about rolling in blood/vomit to become zombie? Where did that idea come from?

[hexed forge]

I have never heard of that

Hopes ruined and dreams crushed.

It was probably a bug lol...

https://tenor.com/view/hopes-and-dreams-barney-hopes-dreams-barney-stinson-gif-14726434

[zenith frigate]

dammit

[hexed forge]

Same thing for any mutation

[robust nest]

It was interesting. I paid attention to it this time. It opened my 2nd mutation back up and let me choose something. Then I looked at the description of it and it changed to that.

[fast forge]

there's no way the port is just walled off by accident

they are working on somethin

[lethal moat]

Or there's a horrendous bug there

[fast forge]

that's fair

[pseudo fable]

I very much did not say that.

I said people found a way to continue the infection without us helping.

[robust nest]

edit because reading comprehension

I cant believe my zombie died so soon though lmao. I'll try again tomorrow

[lethal moat]

I was making footprint art alone on the no ai server lol

[robust nest]

oh?

You can't say that and not share

[fast forge]

I still haven't been a zombie yet

[robust nest]

:(

NA3 SP was full of us

[fast forge]

yeah I spawned at east plains

[robust nest]

that is.. adorable lol

[lethal moat]

I've since swapped to watching childhood movies with my homies

[robust nest]

ooh :( dang

[robust nest]

nice! Whatcha watchin?

[robust nest]

10/10 movie

[lethal moat]

Hold up, this is lore chat, lets discuss how intelligent neuros could be

[robust nest]

I wonder if they could learn human habits and actively track them

[lethal moat]

I'd like neuro to act as a sort of slaver/network to connect different dinosaur species in a forced mixpack

[hexed forge]

I think we all figured that when you said server restart that someone was able to get infected without a dev being patient 0. I see it was a misunderstanding on our part and I apologize.

[robust nest]

That would be.. extremely interesting

[lethal moat]

This is fanmade, but I love stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ts93Zj85A-Y

[fast forge]

I too enjoy this concept

[normal olive]

I was gonna give you the easy answer, but I guess you want the crazy answer to make conversation

[hexed forge]

I have been one three times, it's fun. Especially when you chase down people who don't want to be a zombie and you can see their chats that cry for help

[lethal moat]

Lets hear both

[normal olive]

The easy answer is that a type-N is as intelligent as the player behind it

[hexed forge]

But if most assets are EIPs, essentially a human mind/conciensness. Would that answer work

[lethal moat]

If unlocking neuro involves solving puzzles, I'm going to struggle

[normal olive]

which, could be a lot, considering you have to unlock it

[normal olive]

[lethal moat]

Are most the assets EIPs?

[hexed forge]

We don't know

I would assume that actually a minority are EIPs imo

[normal olive]

that's the crazy answer

[lethal moat]

My argument to the contrary is just that most dinos seem to have designations rather than names

[hexed forge]

All the designations that we seen had a name

Shirley, Augustus, Dean

[hexed forge]

Not the designation I was thinking of

[robust nest]

omg this is awesome

[lethal moat]

The HRS 0.2.174 or whatever it was

[hexed forge]

Huh

[lethal moat]

The designation

[fast forge]

Augustus is HRS 0.2.174, I believe

[hexed forge]

Where does that say

I may have a bad memory

[lethal moat]

I was significantly off

[hexed forge]

Yeah haha
It has a name

[lethal moat]

It has a designation

[hexed forge]

But also a name yes

[hexed forge]

My point is that we don't know enough about AEs assets to confirm this basically.

Since all we saw are designations with names

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[hexed forge]

Yahoo

[lethal moat]

Maybe we’ll get something with the nee Ui

[fast forge]

I'd imagine the ID code comes first, as a result of production
A nickname is applied to individuals that are anomalous/worth studying

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[hexed forge]

I want us to be able to click on the cameras and see the T-Cam or M-cam info.

Like GW_H10 for example. Would help us with the F5 grid maybe

[hexed forge]

Probably

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-tired-tired-puppy-doggo-cute-puppy-gif-9446132869263243239

[lethal moat]

I do wonder how potential interactions between strains would go, if they ever happened

[normal olive]

what are you guys favorite strain?

[lethal moat]

Tisso, for a fairly obscure reason

[normal olive]

Mine is Hyperendocrins, specifically the Carnotarurus

[normal olive]

The matriarch, we know

[lethal moat]

Peak

[normal olive]

I like the reaper's design

[lethal moat]

I do think the humanoid strains could have particularly interesting backgrounds

[normal olive]

maybe

[lethal moat]

I feel like every time I bring up the matriarch, lorecord collectively goes:

https://tenor.com/view/hades-i-know-concept-angry-annoyed-gif-16272172

[normal olive]

[fast forge]

I like neuros because they are so creepy and I love/hate body horror

[lethal moat]

Neuros are very neat

[lethal moat]

This reminded me a lot of those old failed neuro concepts that tapwing maade way back #isle-fan-art message

[normal olive]

strains appreciation time

[fast forge]

tbh I feel like hypers don't even sleep

too hungry

[normal olive]

sounds likely

[lethal moat]

Get out of the test tube and just struggle until death

[normal olive]

what makes you think they are born in a lab?

is that legacy lore or something?

[lethal moat]

I can't imagine a creature surviving to an adult if it's born a hyper, and I don't imagine an adult dino surviving a transformation that severe, so my current headcanon is that they grow them in vats using sedatives and feeding tubes until they need to be tested or they escape

[normal olive]

i see

[lethal moat]

Potentially probably wrong, but it's a fun thought
Press "E" to break glass

[normal olive]

you are right, it's a fun thought

[robust nest]

now I have render ideas. I'm in a spooky mood

[lethal moat]

Speaking of, we still need to see those vats

One day

[robust nest]

:D

someday

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-one-day-mad-pissed-gif-16945426

[acoustic osprey]

I'd argue at least a majority of SYNTHS are EIPS

Potentially not natural born UNLESS AE are able to physical contain them to inject a profile

[hexed forge]

Hmmmm , maybe

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-weird-doctor-weird-gentlemen-behold-gif-4894460452319559436

[hexed forge]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

(act like you just saw this right now, Cerato, we're very excited of course!!!)

[nimble fractal]

WOOOO YEAH YAY OOOO YAAA!!!

[robust nest]

HMMM

[hexed forge]

Oh

YAYYY WOOOO OHHHHHH WOO

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pete-postlethwaite-drinking-coffee-drinking-lancashire-england-uk-gif-20482786

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-anything-ken-jeong-ben-chang-its-so-tiny-cant-see-gif-4279507211752143591

[median shuttle]

Huh?

[lethal moat]

Where's this from?

[median shuttle]

#isle-lore-theories message this on mobile

[lethal moat]

It's a vat

Also, guys, replication happens after elder stage, is it called something else if you don't become elder, does it just not happen? Is replication different from just respawning, and how are things that get replicated or not treated differently

Lets discuss

[nimble fractal]

Clearly obvious
You are the strongest dinosaur. you are chosen to be recreated.

[lofty swallow]

nargacuga? is that you?

[normal olive]

What?

[lethal moat]

I'll take it

[robust nest]

Replication probably wouldn't happen if you don't elder. I would assume nothing happens other than probably dying. I wonder what the process is for elder/replication, if there's some kind of milestone thing or unlocks

[snow jasper]

Everything elders, not everything reaches Prime Elder
The lore word for respawning would replication I suppose, but for gameplay reasons, I believe they're not just going to randomly make you roll over and die

The last question is something interesting to theorise, if I had to guess, Replicated people will suffer worse off than those who are nested in as they come to be with fewer mutations than those Natural Born/Nested species. While its possible for species injected, having been born through replication, to survive, I think this can be linked to the Diabloceratops video and how a lot of them ended up disappearing off the map and its quite literally Survival of the Fittest being artificially created and maybe studied by AE, possibly for an alternative way to bring "Designer Babies" to the public market without much of a negative image. Though that last part is merely my theory and very distant to what we know.

Natural Born species are probably far more dangerous and unpredictable but it probably makes it comparatively more humane so there's not a situation where we end up needing so many human lives in the production of artificially synthesised species, but it becomes a burden as they may be more wild and more untraceable.

But that raises another question to me, did AE contract say 15 humans to be "inserted" into multiple different species or do they have 1 human for 1 specimen. Also, for each Artificially Created Specimen, do they have their own corresponding umbrella ID, i.e. Patient #123 has profiles TRX.05-S.123, HRS.17-S.123, STG.10-S.123 ( Based off of the information we know on Incident Report #████: [AUGUSTUS] )

[lethal moat]

You can respawn without getting elder benefits, so I'm assuming replication and creation may be different things

[snow jasper]

the last part I thinks worth a read, but, its been too long since I covered Augustus so I may be outdated on that

[lethal moat]

I can totally see that last part being true if the profiles can be put into multiple species, which I find likely

[lethal moat]

You've been chatting here a decent bit, you want an invite to the lore server?

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/freddie-mercury-queen-another-one-bites-the-dust-gif-12588862

[robust nest]

Yes please!

[lethal moat]

I'll DM you

[robust nest]

Thank you very much

[lethal moat]

Sent, welcome to the party

[kindred escarp]

alcohol

[hexed forge]

I'm confused

[lethal moat]

Check the dev quotes channel

[hexed forge]

Did Don stream?

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Anything interesting?

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1295811106111094835/image.png?ex=671001a2&is=670eb022&hm=2628fe755ce3fa4914a8b92559ed3b6e3a3528c44c5a191b88c606e7c0b3a8e7&

[snow jasper]

"Ready for Replication"

[hexed forge]

That makes sense with the elder mechanic actually.

Since if you successfully grow and die of old age, your mutations become stronger in the next life

Replication being some sort of a... "level up?" System

Mutate, evolve.

Mmm

[lethal moat]

Build the most efficient creatures you can, just be careful you don’t make a monster that devastates everything else

[normal olive]

You mean him?

[lethal moat]

That doesn’t count, he’s special

[normal olive]

He looks like an okay guy, very chill imo

He just wants to make friends

[lethal moat]

We also aren’t sure strains are a part of replication

[hexed forge]

Build a strain !!

Mmm

[hexed forge]

It might be, if it's like how you described it. Which I like

[lethal moat]

I think it might be a part of it, but a profile might need external approval for stuff like that, so it’s not exclusively something you achieve by growing the same dino over and over

[normal olive]

Imagine you could play as the matriarch

[lethal moat]

Would be neat

[hexed forge]

I think it's just too powerful for gameplay

[normal olive]

I wonder how many human bases are yet to be in game

[hexed forge]

Might be just a mod

[normal olive]

Or Ai

[hexed forge]

Ranger stations?
H4

[normal olive]

Or dev exclusive

[normal olive]

Isn't H4 the human base at west access? The one looking at the ocean covered by a rock

[lethal moat]

The labs

The things we saw labeled in that one stream

[hexed forge]

That's if you mean every human structure in general.

Which there's just almost too many to count
(I don't think the labs is a ranger station)

[hexed forge]

That's H6

[normal olive]

I see

[hexed forge]

Technically A15 too
But that was awhile ago so we don't know if that's coming

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping it’s mostly underground

[hexed forge]

It seemed to be inside that rocky mountain

A giant lab disguised as a mountain

[normal olive]

I'm actually more excited for the visitor center, I think that was the name. The human structure that is going/was going to be in the swamp

[lethal moat]

Flooded bases sound fun as hell to explore

[normal olive]

Exactly

Imagine going inside because you need some specific kind of loot and you stumble upon a deino's nest

[hexed forge]

The visitor center might be a placeholder name BTW

[lethal moat]

I’d like some buildings around the water access dam

[snow jasper]

I hope they use variation in floor level so humans exploring it would assume its knee height, before they get slower in waist high water
Could even make the entire structure lop-sided/sunken in the ground so half of it is strictly aquatic only when it comes to exploration

[hexed forge]

There seems to be some sort of structure in the old gateway concept iirc

[lethal moat]

Hauling scuba gear across the swamp sounds like it could be a pain

[hexed forge]

Good

[snow jasper]

This is what I have in mind if said building was flooded

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-helluva-boss-hazbin-hotel-gif-21156926

[normal olive]

What would be scarier, a Deinosuchus nest or a spino's nest?

[lethal moat]

Austro, it can chase you better

[snow jasper]

I think austro nests would be worse

they'd be more nimble in tighter spaces

[normal olive]

But spino can move objects

[lethal moat]

Spino can’t chase you through a hallway

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-bye-leaving-break-out-freedom-gif-16077483

[hexed forge]

Minmi... Minmi is the most horrifying.

[snow jasper]

but even still, if its a visitor centre, i'd expect a lobby area, prime placement for an opening in the side allowing entry for such creature like Spinosaurus

its hard to descibe what Im visualising

[normal olive]

No, but what if you leave the base, get on your bot an you see a sail

[snow jasper]

but it looks nice

[hexed forge]

You are visualizing Jurassic Park

[snow jasper]

uhhhh, no

[lethal moat]

I can envision it, but that still prevents spino from hunting you through half flooded maintenance areas

[hexed forge]

[snow jasper]

waist high water, evading a spino would be painful

you'd be hindered by having to wade through it

[lethal moat]

Not if you’re in a small tunnel it’s too big for

Austro would be better

[snow jasper]

one moment

[normal olive]

Now you are talking

[hexed forge]

I love Tapwing's art.

[lethal moat]

Who doesn’t

[hexed forge]

True.

[normal olive]

Wrong gif

1 sec, discord app is slower on cellphones

[snow jasper]

Got a top down view of this "Visitor Centre" very crude, but imagine its a small dome, maybe shaped like the bottom half of an egg and the blue is the flooding ( its sunken on the north eastern side )
Spino can walk in where anything could be, if its short, its gonna struggle to wade out and stay void of the spino

Thats a massive design assumption over theorising actual lore, but scary nevetherless

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

Spino that.. Spino this.. Spino scary....

But no one can imagine a minmi chasing them down and ruthlessly running you over.

[normal olive]

Minmi cute, minmi is pet

[hexed forge]

Minmi is also over 300kg looking for something to break the bones of

[lethal moat]

Average visit to the visitor center https://youtu.be/yS71VeptuEc?si=-1Wch-U4QKPg2O2l

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-they-called-me-a-madman-infinity-war-madman-gif-13990981

[snow jasper]

A bit brutalistic for a visitor centre
Thats the Water Entrance/Water Drain to the Perimeter

[normal olive]

I know

[snow jasper]

epico

[lofty swallow]

monster from the monster hunter franchise:

[hexed forge]

I have a strong feeling that Replication in gameplay terms will basically be just you evolving/mutating a species

It makes sense with all the information that we know so far. IMO.

[snow jasper]

Nobody can disagree, nor agree

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-theory-matpat-fnaf-movie-matthew-robert-patrick-gif-8650789653163891524

[lethal moat]

I do think that cameo was a nice touch, even if I don’t watch game theories nor the FNaF movie

[hexed forge]

Lol

[snow jasper]

I was never invested in the games, the film is a good watch though, 100%

[polar trout]

https://tenor.com/view/ee-gif-22377425

[fast forge]

I'm excited for the next game

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-money-wallet-empty-cashless-gif-16030892

I want to buy it

[fast forge]

still got 4 months

I'm pretty excited, World was my first MH game, and I didn't play it on release

I did play Rise on release, but that was on the switch and I have no friends on the switch

So I'm happy to be around for the next release

[hexed forge]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

Unless you look at Legacy lore...

[hexed forge]

Legacy lore is just a legacy

Its in the past !

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kylo-ren-still-holding-on-let-it-go-the-last-jedi-star-wars-gif-25463932

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/owlkitty-pirates-pirates-of-the-caribbean-jack-sparrow-captain-jack-sparrow-gif-26780511

What Rumple said

[lofty swallow]

dude YES, can't wait for wilds, looks amazing

[lofty swallow]

yeah my first was 3 ultimate on the wii u, didn't really understand what I was doing so I didn't get far, but once I got into world it was sick

[acoustic osprey]

But without the past
How can we learn for the future

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/he-has-a-point-gif-21949559

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pumbaa-timon-simba-lion-king-gif-9088241

[acoustic osprey]

yes but having a knowledge of the past still helps us to try navigate the future

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/good-point-kermit-kermit-the-frog-gif-4645051

[ornate comet]

Yummy lore

[robust nest]

Yummy lore indeed

[lethal moat]

Lore tastes like chocolate

[lethal moat]

It sure would be a shame if Apollo invested in renewable energy while encouraging non-renewable energy to make the world more reliant on them in the future

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-evil-plan-villian-dr-heinz-doofenshmirtz-let-me-show-you-my-evil-plan-gif-15622445

[hexed forge]

Holy chocolate

Apparently Don is supposed to stream today

Might be a false rumor

[lethal moat]

He said he would, I’ve got work later, so I’ll need you guys to let me know what happens

[hexed forge]

Will record the entire stream.

[fast forge]

tbh I hope it's another map making stream

I enjoyed the last one, but that's probably because I know a bit about that kind of stuff with my experience in unity

[hexed forge]

We will find out in a few hours...or just not find out at all because we might not even get one

[normal olive]

[ornate comet]

The stream yesterday when he was a dryo I just kept waiting for someone to attack him. At least one herbie was at the very least planning lol. Or it would be a Herrera that got him

[hexed forge]

Lol

[hexed forge]

Perchance we might get some plant lore @patent ginkgo

https://tenor.com/view/tmnt-leonardo-after-all-these-years-the-secret-of-the-ooze-after-all-of-these-years-gif-22046807

[low scarab]

Strain plants 🗣️ (I’m probably wrong)

[patent ginkgo]

that as well as don saying that there are plants that give more food on the way have me excited

[hexed forge]

If it is related to strain,

Which strain would it be

[patent ginkgo]

hyperendocrine potentially, cause that would help with healing

for the thing you mentioned ^

[hexed forge]

Mmm, probably

[patent ginkgo]

otherwise im sure it would just be like trees or smth for the thing i said

[fast forge]

tbh people think dryo is defenseless, but it's so stealthy and quick, I rarely die to players

[fast forge]

What kind of trees would provide more food? Like we currently have jackfruit as a "small" food source, and I struggle to think of anything bigger that would be substantial

[patent ginkgo]

something that has a lot of edible leaves or bark i think

[fast forge]

I guess?

[patent ginkgo]

but yeah i do think jackfruit should be a large food source

[fast forge]

maybe the same fruit, but bigger trees?

like tall orange trees, and an herbi has to shake the tree to get fruit down from up high

but that requires more animations too, which adds to development time...

It would be nice to just have like

big patches of ferns or horsetails

like a lot of the diet plants are flowering plants, but those didn't even show up until the cretaceous

something like a stego in the jurassic would be eating a ton of tough plants - cycads, horsetails, ferns, conifers, etc

maybe idk, bunya pine?

some of those other araucariaceae trees from the southern hemisphere that grow in tropical environs

[patent ginkgo]

yes, some more prehistoric plants could be good, but remember that most of our diet plants currently are edible to some extent by humans, or otherwise useful. that in addition to don hinting at diet plants having specific lore significance makes me think that were not likely to get diet plants that arent functionally important to humans in lore

could also just be that migration zones give more food

[hexed forge]

special plants

If the quote is correct

Which I cant confirm because no one recorded the stream

[ornate comet]

Is a dryo a match for a stream sniping Herrera tho lol

[fast forge]

ehhh, if the herrera can even find the dryo
even with stream sniping it's probably not easy

[hexed forge]

Incredibly easy if you know the map

[fast forge]

I know the map and play a lot of both dryo and herrera, and I disagree

if anything, omni would be better than herrera because herra is best when it can post up at a spot and wait for an ambush opportunity

[hexed forge]

If you are actively following someone on a stream, overtime you get much more clues indicating where they are at. THATS ONLY IF they are in the middle of some jungle. If they are in the open of some sort of grassland you can probably easily guess where that is. If you know the map that is

When you streamsnipe, you dont look at 1 clue and try to guess where that person is.

You get a bunch overtime

[acoustic osprey]

no one can streamsnipe me

[fast forge]

I'm not saying it would be hard to find the area where they are, or even see them
But catching them is another story

[fast forge]

prove it, go live now

[hexed forge]

Go live

[acoustic osprey]

||because my stream has super terrible latency||

[hexed forge]

I lost

[acoustic osprey]

you all lost because it was A JOKE!!

[fast forge]

I found you when you were streaming

[hexed forge]

Thats what made it impossible for me to find you at K15 on stream

Runnin everywhere

[acoustic osprey]

my stream is usually about a minute delayed

[fast forge]

(by accident)

[acoustic osprey]

(I was also stuck in pit!!!)

Tartarus.... maybe that was tartarus....

[hexed forge]

We found tartarus, we just didnt know..

[fast forge]

that hillside with an invisible wall is tartarus, huh?

[acoustic osprey]

loring

we did it ladies and gentlemen
makes sense

can't escape
dreaded pain
can't /unstuck
is a pit

[hexed forge]

It all lines up

We found the lore,
Now wheres the prize

[acoustic osprey]

uh, happiness

[hexed forge]

Not achievable with lore

[acoustic osprey]

one must imagine sisyphus (the isle lore community) happy

are dreams supposed to be realistically achieveable?

one might argue it was the journey along the way that was the real happiness that we found from it

[fast forge]

nuh uh

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

This sounds like "The prize was the friends we made along the way..."...

[acoustic osprey]

the whole 'meme' of that is basically a personal reflection of how we, as people, tend to not reflect on the right subjects
as, typically, the end goal - a materialistic dream - is usually the more 'disappointing' aspect in contrast to the experiential journey

[hexed forge]

Thank you

[fast forge]

we never know what we have until it is gone

[acoustic osprey]

there's a line that goes roughly

Every day is ordinary, until it isn't.

[hexed forge]

Kind of sadge that we didnt get a Don Stream today,

Unless he streams at like 3 AM for me lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek2-shrek-smiling-ogre-gif-17463374

[fast forge]

I get it, it's not always easy to stream

[acoustic osprey]

erm, you just press stream on OBS

[fast forge]

mentally, you dork

[hexed forge]

Mentally

You must think to click the OBS button

[fast forge]

Especially when half the people in your chat are just asking you annoying questions

[acoustic osprey]

"press the button"

[hexed forge]

True lol

[acoustic osprey]

that's why he usually streams at midday for me
you get way less of those people when they're sleeping lol

[fast forge]

he mentioned you in the last stream

[acoustic osprey]

oh, what about

[fast forge]

I think it was when he switched to subscriber-only chat, he said people need to pay him to ask questions

and then said you are the exception iirc

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fast forge]

something like that

[acoustic osprey]

'hello mr dondi, can i ask you question?'

will be my only question

[hexed forge]

Lol

[hexed forge]

You better be taking notes during the stream.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, those streams are usually the chill streams
because he is also tired haha

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-tail-circles-catch-gif-14764000

Lol

[lethal moat]

What’d I miss?

[hexed forge]

Nothing.

He didnt stream... yet..?

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

I talked to myself about plants for a while
#isle-lore-theories message
that was fun

[lethal moat]

Very nice

[fast forge]

oh yeah they are all edible aren't they?
even astringent stuff like mountain ash berries are used to make tea and can be used in jellies

[patent ginkgo]

iirc theres only one that isnt edible in some way

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/math-confused-gif-21641306

I don't know the whole list at all

found this image from a galli player in another discord
trillium is rarely eaten but highly emetic, everything else is used in cooking or tea or something

certainly some of the stuff wouldn't be very edible to a human right off the bush

mountain ash berries require treatment or something before you can use them in jelly

[hexed forge]

Gen2 are able to eat trillium

One of three options

1. Not finalized
2. Gen2s are able to digest many things that normal humans probably cant
3. Trillium is genetically modified

Definitely number 1 lel

[fast forge]

All good points

Considering what we saw from the data in the dibble vid, I'd guess that all of the edible plants are engineered, at the least, if not the environmental plants too

[acoustic osprey]

aren't Gen2s still able to eat general plants anymore?

[hexed forge]

Gen2s are able to eat all plants iirc

[acoustic osprey]

erm, pretty sure jolly is a 'human'

[fast forge]

yeah but then he disappeared and I was off on my own tangent

[patent ginkgo]

sorry i was isleing

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-talking-gif-24637905

Use this gif when you talk to yourself ^

Lore tradition

[patent ginkgo]

but make sure you fact check that

[acoustic osprey]

i.... i... forgive you

[hexed forge]

I dont forgive you Jolly

[patent ginkgo]

thank... you...

[acoustic osprey]

ironically
reading narnia chronicles right now

so
"is that thing a tree?"

[hexed forge]

Jolly did you just ghost ping me again..

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[patent ginkgo]

im not a ghost

[patent ginkgo]

im a raptor skeleton

[fast forge]

pirate

[patent ginkgo]

pirate

[acoustic osprey]

pretty sure you're a tree

[hexed forge]

An Isle

[patent ginkgo]

talk like a pirate day is my favorite day!

[acoustic osprey]

'oh, those things [legs and arms] look like branches ... so he must be a tree! Let us plant him'

[patent ginkgo]

gingko biloba or liquidambar styraciflua though, is the question

[patent ginkgo]

groot:

[acoustic osprey]

lol

https://www.ironbellystudios.com/2016/05/31/the-isle-open-world-survival#/bwg25/321

damn
ironbelly did a redesign
you can't see their isle stuff anymore

(https://www.ironbellystudios.com/projects)

[fast forge]

I know those plants

Tulip tree ❤️

[patent ginkgo]

cool trees as well

i dont like hackberries tho

but they are in cannibaceae which is interesting

[fast forge]

I just saw that in reading about them

I'm not familiar with hackberry, they don't grow wild here and aren't planted often

But I do see plenty of ginkgo

That would be a nice one for the isle, ginkgo

it has fruit

(stinky fruit)

[normal olive]

Did Dondi streamed today or no?

[fast forge]

nah

[normal olive]

Well, at least that means I didn't miss anything

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.7tv.app/emote/66e366ff25894bf40230e730/4x.gif

[hexed forge]

Im saving this

[acoustic osprey]

woah

[normal olive]

[acoustic osprey]

sorry

[hexed forge]

Big link

[fast forge]

It's that same website through the web archive

[hexed forge]

yahoo

[fast forge]

you can look at old defunct websites

oh

[hexed forge]

yea lol

Not archived

[fast forge]

just paste the link from isaac into it then, even if my link didn't work

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[fast forge]

Don't follow my link, that's why it didn't work

[hexed forge]

Nothing from his too

[acoustic osprey]

glad it had some saved

unlike Don's clips from Twitch...

[normal olive]

[acoustic osprey]

especially his old legacy LORE clips

[hexed forge]

Nevermind

[hexed forge]

I had to refresh

[fast forge]

it loads INCREDIBLY slow for me

and the enlarged images won't even load when I click on them

[hexed forge]

Same

Refuses to load

[fast forge]

can't get much more than this, though

[hexed forge]

Yea I let it load for 10 minutes now,

Not working

[eager sable]

Alright my fellow Librarians, what's the lore we got thus far?

I know nothing

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit?tab=t.0

First Read that document,

Then ask any questions here.

[eager sable]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-my-goodness-gracious-dog-oh-my-goodness-gif-24115765

Aye Aye, Cap'n

[civic pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/once-you-start-no-going-back-daddy-talk-gif-12390474

[lethal moat]

There’s also a lore server and a podcast if you’re interested

[median shuttle]

Rumple give em time

Let them slowly get invested and then strike

[hexed forge]

Strike

And force them to get invested

[acoustic osprey]

updated the foreword

just on the topic of what we've been saying here a lot more recently

assumption vs theory vs confirmed

[steel summit]

thats smart

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979447259697676288/1296343374185627688/SPOILER_togif-1.gif

[steel summit]

what if i do believe it?

[acoustic osprey]

oh my

[steel summit]

https://tenor.com/view/post-cat-kneading-comfy-birma-gif-27371130

[acoustic osprey]

woah!

@fast forge for once you're awake / see my message

i've also just updated some of your stuff on the foreword as well

i basically grabbed the whole pdf
slammed it into ChatGPT and asked what it makes from this

saw what it said
the things that came out as a bit too speculative were looked at and I went from there to update

meaning I've had to update your stuff

like the description of things being broader or less specifically connotating an aspect that passes off the wrong ideas / biases about things

but don't worry
the foreword is basically the same

just some words were shuffled/edited 👌

[fast forge]

oh ok

[crystal cairn]

guts mention @acoustic osprey

[nimble fractal]

LORE

[median shuttle]

GUTS!!

[lethal moat]

FORKLIFT

[spiral elbow]

Oh y’all are FEASTING

[ornate comet]

The only thing you should be happy about lol

[nimble fractal]

Are you certified enough

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been-a-long-time-allie-novak-wentworth-quite-a-while-ago-long-time-no-see-gif-22896128

[low scarab]

BUG LORE W

[lethal moat]

The new tank looks cool as hell

[low scarab]

Yes very exciting

[patent ginkgo]

Very creepy lighting

[lethal moat]

Wonder if the matriarch could outgrow that

[patent ginkgo]

Nice bait

[lethal moat]

No bait

Just questions

https://tenor.com/view/detective-pokemon-gif-14437525

[patent ginkgo]

We have (unofficial) art showing it being one of the largest animals ever

[lethal moat]

That unofficial art may not be reflective of the real thing

[patent ginkgo]

Though I wonder if you can keep it small by only feeding it stuff from small yhings

[lethal moat]

That’s a good point, can we get a 100 ft matriarch from exclusively dryos?

Smol tank

I am curious how the interior of the tanks is accessed without breaking the glass

[patent ginkgo]

Putting this here for easy access in conversation

[normal olive]

nice, new wallpapers

[patent ginkgo]

I’m assuming in a similar manner to the Vivarium I have. One (nearly) entire side is a door

[rapid chasm]

Avatar 1

[meager junco]

Don’t forget

[patent ginkgo]

Not as much to see there

[lethal moat]

Took me a minute to find it, but it reminds me of this

[meager junco]

Prob somewhat the same concept turned official years later

Nice to see some of the true sci fi stuff getting worked on

[lethal moat]

I can definitely see some similarities, which makes sense

[meager junco]

Seems about the same size too, but that’s kinda irrelevant

[lethal moat]

I’m very happy with the phase three, now we just wait for UI

[meager junco]

I’m hyped for the Shirley video which is prob our next video(hopefully)

Would be neat if we got her video exactly a year after Augustus, so on Halloween day

Better version of the VAT

[olive cape]

xD

[meager junco]

LOL

you coulda kept it

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-warwick-singed-arcane-warwick-arcane-singed-gif-11206575494701681841

[olive cape]

nah all good lmao

[lethal moat]

Trying to see if I can find any juicy details I haven’t already seen in the images

[meager junco]

Yk what, that’s such a good screenshot, I’m changing my pfp early

[lethal moat]

Nice

[meager junco]

But looking at that VAT, if our Gen 1 is something like 7 ft tall, then that VAT seems to be the right size for them

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Crazy to think gateway was a year ago, so much has changed on the map since

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[meager junco]

Now it sounds like GUTS will be running through our island soon

[snow jasper]

The VATs are just less ethical life support tanks, right?

They do look rather fragile

[lethal moat]

I think they could be long term embryonic growth chambers, but that’s just me (I may have used that word wrong)

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pointing-not-scientifically-possible-gif-14882344

In terms of what can be done in real life, I actually don't know to what extent you could create life inside a VAT, if its even something doable with current technology, or doable at all

[lethal moat]

We’ve done it inside plastic bags

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[lethal moat]

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4087125.1703271876!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_940/artificial-womb-lamb.jpg

[snow jasper]

oh wow

Now the next thing you'll see is people doing timelapses of a fetus developing

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[median shuttle]

heck yeah, forklift certification in the isle when

[lethal moat]

I do think artificial wombs are super interesting as a concept though

[nimble fractal]

Broken artificial incubators scattered all over the map as a new spawn location for dinosaurs would be interesting

[hexed forge]

Oh interesting

I assume this is a vat

Wide vat

[lethal moat]

Bigg

[hexed forge]

Also

FORKLIFT

Yahoo

[lethal moat]

Craig the forklift driver slowly moves closer to becoming canon

[hexed forge]

Lol

Ben.

Soon.

[lethal moat]

Definitely not in that one spot

[hexed forge]

Perchance,

The Labs label we saw in a stream

Hmm

I hope we can see some new ones

[lethal moat]

I like that the papers are actually getting something on them

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[wispy sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-oh-really-lies-why-you-always-lying-stop-lying-gif-7432913009127585308

[meager junco]

Better

[hexed forge]

Oh damn,

Thats pretty big

[meager junco]

Seems to be the right size for Gen 1

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-orange-cat-orange-cats-cat-weird-gif-17010424884748616697

[alpine lynx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1296537764338208788/The_Isle_Lore.gif

[hexed forge]

Thank you @fossil nebula

[fossil nebula]

Had to grab the mp4, no ads lel

[hexed forge]

Gives me @lethal moat PTSD

Except he was in a mig 21...