#isle-lore-theories
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We've once again reached philosophy
i'm not arguing in absolutes
my question was, from the beginning here, a question
Feeling absolutely nothing is infinitely worse than feeling pain
^
you're feeling anything
but there would be nothing
therefore no feeling at all
That's the thing though
You aren't bored
When there is nothing
There is nothing
Which is paradoxical in of itself
As that assumes there is a "there" in nothing
Because nothing is nothing
The question isn't one or the other
I don't think even AE can claim to know what comes after death
It is a question on whether one would want death after 1000 lives
I'd sign an extension to a contract to push off the inevitable
If it were offered, or I might even inquire if it could be done
Anything to push back that deadline until I was ready, which I don't think anyone can ever be ready for
Cant be ready for something that you dont know 
I feel like each life is an individual one, even if it's a continuation, you cannot be ready for the next death, and you can't remember nothing, but nothing is more frightening than whatever came before it
Man I rlly shouldn’t have looked in here after drinking
We get existential occasionally
Every EIP discussion ends in Philosophy, its inevitable
Its time people
yooooooo let's goooooo
yay
woop
Lets hope a lot of the bugged locations at docks are fixed
yeah
if they don't include anything special
hopefully locational fixes would be good
The location size doubled so.
I'm sure there's just more...
God damn

Leave no stone unturned
Oooo
Perhaps that building that was underground got moved up/changed
We shall find out once the HT goes to live.. in.. 15 minutes?
we shall see
I wonder if we get access to the habitation facility that is inside the cliff 
i wonder if they're both "DTA"
if DTA is like GUTS (a specific building)
or more so a general naming acronym for that type of building
I haven't heard this acronym, what did I miss
it's from a few dblogs ago
I have heard of it, but forgot what it means 
‘Dockyard Transportation Area’
ohh
Thats a habitation facility!!
Just a very.. large one
I assume they are basically the same thing
DTA = Habitation facility
Nah
‘Dockyard Transportation Area’
It's a temporary cage imo
They definitely are
this one is the DTA
this
the TVA
thats the one inside the mountain
We have this ingame already, just its smaller
inside and outside
they are different
oh ya
yes
only slightly different
Then whats a "Habitation facility"?
where one has a missing exterior (inside the mountain)
A place something can live
i guess we'll find out in 10 minutes when we all speedrun to the docks
because you're assuming the name
If its the facility that Im thinking of,
I dont think anything can live there unless its small 
Exactly
oh
I may be wrong
I will continue thinking that the DTA and the Habitation enclosures are the same thing 
actually it seems like it may be that the one in the mountain is the enclosure-one from VisualTech
really
Hordetest is live
yes
Downloading
updating even
it's soooo slowwww
and I have fast internet
yeah lol
7 mb/s is my average download speed
that's nice
Not really 
Compared to others atleast
way better to mine! 🙂
oh
we need to just run a giant fios cable to australia
destroy the sea floor
I'm stealing it from all of you
Stop stealing all of it!
i mean, the brits did something similar to france
Jack is stealing it from me
you can have when im done
Stahp
Jack really stole all of it 
ITS ALL MINE
Almost done! 10 more minutes...
It said 10 minutes for 5 minutes already 
don't worry
mine's at 0B/s!
mines been done!
Say Aye! If you are in favor of sacrificing Jack to the replicator
lol
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye!
Okay Jack is now the first victim of Halloween event
this is pirate chat now
yarr
My theme
I may have spent 20 min downloading the wrong hordetesting
lol!
lol!
Point and laugh
lmao
Fish react that guy
I only saw one option, but other people in chat saying they saw two
I saw three
Only one option had hordetesting as one word tho
Its the "Public testing branch" one
The real horse
yeah I didn't see the nosy one
I win because mine is special
not that one...
it doesnt have the hyphen though
pt drains hunger so much faster now so we cant just fly straight to docks anymore
That's the halloween one ain't it
No, its legacy
maybe
maybe not (HT Public testing branch)
I had
Horde-testing - Nosy, aren’t you?
horde-testing - Nosy, aren’t you?
hordetesting - Public Testing Branch
how it doesnt have the hyphen
Oh it might be
because it's an old branch
'nosy aren't you'
the only other one I have has a hyphen
it's not the actual horde testing branch
oops
wait how do I get the actual one then
The actual one is called "Public testing branch"
I had already switched over to checking out locations as galli, which can eat grass
But now with random spawning ptera might be best
I DONT HAVE THAT
Banned 
restart steam
whats the code
restart your steam
Theres no code, restart steam
oh
use task manager
ok I get it
Point and laugh
at least I didnt spend 20 minutes downloading the wrong one, it took 2 seconds
Damn
I restarted steam its still not there
all of steam on task manager?
I exited it through the app I'll try task
through the app doesn't work
Cant wait to explore the docks in this weather !
just walk
z-walk to the docks
much safer
Ehm, I just lost like 25% of my hunger in less than 30 seconds.
Maybe Ptera is not the way to go....
tiny just doesn't want you to find it first ^^^ !!
its still not there
thas what im saying
I did it all
try the first then
maybe switching branches will make it appear as an option
thats what I originally had
ill try launching it
ITS CORRECT
I WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
I might be insane but a specific area of west access is flattened I think, perhaps thats where a nesting ground will go? @fast forge
I win.
Shut
Never
I dont know if this was flat before or not
think it was
Okay I keep getting west access spawn as PT, going galli
galli has more spawns for sure, but you might get lucky
this is so sad
nah
better that Don doesn't understand FNAF nor it's 'lore'
prefer for Isle to never follow FNAF's lore path
what if he adds arcade minigames to the isle
and that's how you find lore
i would cry
My teno from the previous HT is in east plains! PERFECTTT
pac man game behind a tree that reveals a single page of lore
a book of lore if you type out the entire Isle steam description
and it's all up to interpretation and makes no sense! just like fnaf lore!
You can play them as a dinosaur if you have Pattern Recognition
lol
if we line up every dinosaur from smallest to largest in game something will be revealed
pattern recognition should make your game look like FNAF World
yes
that something is !!! ...
||a high five||
from me
Lore in the merch store plz
Rumple T-Shirt
so it took so long
can I have a high five
NO
because I downloaded legacy, apparently
did you line up every dinsoaur from smallest to largest in game?

MY update failed
yeah
here, check my DMs! 😊
you must have done it from largest to smallest
Almost at the docks
currently watching an elite fish trying to evolve legs
it ain't easy being at the top of the food chain
high five received
can confirm!
yay
New road... that I phase through..
ah, they're bringing back the roads from ST
Following it
they were also walk throughable meshes
Damn
-196,021.183, 527,040.152, 35,528.099 Coords of this road, going downhill towards the beach
interesting
idk why my ping was 140 when on regular branch it's perfectly fine
likely server stress
This road is HEAVILY reminding me about the legacy concepts.
Specifically the one that had a road on a cliff
based on the screenshot you sent it looks to be a road on a cliff so that makes sense
End is here, -225,665.778, 547,663.996, 27,553.082
Goes into the cliff
could be a GUTS tunnel under there
Berserk reference
New area on north side of port
oh cool
i'm just glad i downloaded the right branch
Seems to be just a bunch of containers, cant be sure yet. Going towards it
i wonder if the 'halloween' event will occur in this HT (whenever that will be)
Thats A LOT of containers
oh that's cool
it's now overground that's nice
Oh thats interesting
i see drive through
theres the underground stuff
THERE IS!
nice
can't wait to use it properly as a human
liking the way this area looks
mhm
This area has been fixed, noice
joining no AI
good idea I'll do the same, was sitting in that queue
woah
Just an exit into the open
What server?
west
oh, Im on EU 1.
I logged in and my dryo vomited?
has this DNA section always been there in recent Evrima?
likely because of the diet changes
It hasnt
same with my galli
I was wondering the same thing
don't think so
That DNA is new
i wonder if that means affinity is coming back to some degree? 
Ohhh that looks cool
Affinity?
yeah, affinity
the old DNA system in Legacy was linked with it
of course, it never came
I see
another toilet
another godly* toilet
This is it im pretty sure, all the new dock stuff that we can access
weird looking roof
is it skibidi though?
Base near docks is not above ground
looks like the bars from this#isle-lore-theories message
Interesting design...?
are all these screenshots in docks?
yes
yeah, looks like the iron bars from it
thats so cool
I think I'm getting texture bugs too...
A particular building or part of it may suddenly become a metal texture. This has been patched for next week
where the path go
nondescript pitch black metal beams are totally normal
@lethal moat Jetskis 
Vantablack beams
yeah, would be
Now im going to follow this weird road
Yippie
I wonder which employees were lucky enough to get one of those first
me
no me
cool
Actually.
This holy.. cube..?Wall...? Roof..? Idk..?
The holy plane.
Is that the replicator
It had to remain there.
lol
Lol
Before time began, there was the cube
Road ends here -259,476.392, 541,001.017, 20,808.078
this seems different
Oh definitely
How are you- wha-
after time too
cube
cube
cube
Another holy thing
path
it's super late for me so I'm gonna stop chatting, hopefully you guys can find some stuff by the time I wake up
Gn
ciao
my plane
Man I shouldve went on NA 4 so I couldve slapped Dondi with my other teno on there 
lol
banned
is he on na4
I think so yes
the hunt begins
Lol
I was running around looking for that, then I saw it
This is new, I think it was just the basic tunnel before
that area looks the same
next to the DTA?
yes
Ladies and gentlemen
that was there before (Tiny)
hmmmmmm
where?
The main entrance
noted cannot fly into abyss
Oh I see
did this bridge have a catwalk alongside?
this area got smoothed
Nope
I think you need to eat
no
Tiny I think you should check out the office building, theres some papers in here that I cant read because Im too big
im gonna die and check if replays work
ahhhhhhhhhh
replays saved but i'll see if they work in 30 minutes
oh nice
new?
dont think so
nah, unless it's in a new location
because that's the same building int as before
where in the building
In here
Ah
Thanks
Alright Its late for me now, going to hop off and do some more exploring tomorrow
that rot wagon fished me before he left 
i fell into the ocean and died at the port
food for my dryo 
do you want to fall into the body of the ocean?
sometimes
If you want to die, I'm happy to help.
I'm on the no-ai
don pinging cerato right after he goes to bed 
me too
should we try the QR code again? Lol
broken pipe
go in
na 2?
yes
no ai west
same server
yes
lol we can try out nesting!
and i can steal an egg (i am galli)
sure
Trash galli
Good old times (some months ago)
they did not
unless

lol
I hear someone splashin'!
me
is this new? I coulda missed it originally
at least it is not lorem ipsum...
It's funny to me every time you use that term because it's my partner's username 
I know the meaning but I see it much more often through her and associate it with her
ironically, ipsum comes from the latin ipsum
its gone
which the phrase comes from a Cicero work
coming from the phrase dolorem ipsum
which is QUITE ironic
seeing as it literally means pain itself
these are just wall pieces btw
yes
yeah the structures are very modular
That top right area still needs work, clearly
There's some weird flattened land over there, along with the floating platforms and blocky terrain
mmmhm
seems like it'll be the last bit of work
wonder if it'll be updated next week
but most everything else is looking pretty good
I fell really far and it used up my stamina?
thats a mutation
i think this island is new
oh no, poop island is back
sorry, i mean seagull 'snow' island
be ware of your distance
either replay mode is being weird or the guts tunnels on the island are removed
(cargo spawning depending on your distance)
they might be gone
could check in a sec
yeah
but also the main one is blocked off by a rock after a few pipes
Genius
Erazer
the only painful thing with Isle models like these (marketplace or not) is that they're always low-res
so you can't really read anything
found where the path goes
nice
Qwertz
woop
that's kinda qwerty
NO
are you dryo on na2?
well if you are, so are me and jolly
if you're not, we're something big and scary
two ceratos
YOU LIED
lol
Zombies would be cool. 👀
maybe
Now where did it start from? 
you might be able to guess...
Secret tunnel!
Probably drinking blood or something....👀
Lorecord will find it sometime while I'm at work tomorrow
I think it started with don, and he spread it to others
Nice
Was telling my partner about it and took these
From everything he's said I think he just dropped it into the server and is watching the effects
I threw hands as patient zero. It grew from there.
That's great
yeah the isle has diseases now that's... yeah great... yeahh
Rabies hypsi
One day
I'm watching cloverfield for the first time, liking the movie much more than I thought I would
I'd love some sort of chestburster sort of thingo in the isle, get bit and become a danger to your friends, like the zombie thing currently going on
Neuro goo...

one thing I'm interested about though, with this, is how is it lore related
Might not be
https://i.gyazo.com/ca1796b2a454cf41b3d89c410ce5567a.png
unless we didn't understand this bit
Could be similar, but not directly related
but how so though?
unless it's something internal that we won't find till the future that'll explain this
unless he completely scrapped it
Disease quarantine, maybe not specifically zombies
potentially
just a bit bummed we didn't see whatever it was in this
Maybe we need to find it
rah!!
What's going on with the Halloween event? Who got the zombie virus 
Oh the event is over for now 
Lorehunt 2.0 incoming.
Dondi
i hope not... but......
If he did add those protocol papers, perhaps its in the bases?
Did anyone check if Perimeter is open or not?
no didn't check
Ah alr
Will be something that I will check once I'm home in an hour
Okay
my theory is.
That once the dinos are finished an the roster is complete. Human gameplay will take over and there is a lot for them to do.. maybe a lowkey Jurrasic world vibe ?
what is this..
i meant a normal human qwq
is this the hypo rex or sum ?
Well I wouldn’t describe both gen 1 and the playable humans as “normal”
Hyper, yeah
so they want to bring back hypers.. and how can you become one ?
You’ll have to earn it, beyond that is unknown
I’ve gotta bounce, but read this, the others should answer any questions you have, have a good one https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
The Isle Theory Document Created by: Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin and The Isaac? Foreword by: 1tinydinosaur (PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or remov...
i hope that someday when the game is big enough the game theorists will take a look at it
There’s already a podcast
where ?
Not by the game theorists, but people are trying, it’s on spotify
i would say the pros are from game theorie
Community made
I got to go, toodles
I would assume that it will be incredibly challenging to become a hyper, or any strain for that matter
!!
Perimeter is still closed
Checked K15, East Dome, and Swamp GUTS tunnel. All the same
After I eat I will go towards I12 and H6
Oh yeah, we still need to find out what the lore correlation is
Maybe
In legacy Tissos had some sort of venom. What if this is the effect of the venom?
Zombie dinosaurs basically
Dock stop typing

Continue !
Well, Tissoplastic is about regeneration if I recall correctly....
Hmm. I have a super random theory. Odd example, but hear me out.
Plague Inc. has the Necroa Virus which lets ya make zombies. What's neat is that the symptoms you evolve to start making zombies actually describe how it works, specifically regenerating neural pathways and whatnot in weird areas and stuff (I'll have to double check the actual descriptions....)
Maybe....Tissoplastic does somethin' like that

In essence maybe Tissoplastic can make something not alive/not alive enough more alive by regenerating the stuff needed in some way
Perhaps, Since tissos whole idea is around Regeneration
Maybe its venom could do that 
So you’re saying something like
Tissos are basically the perfected version of the strain, but they can spread a somewhat lesser version of the strain that basically “regenerates” a dead being?
Aka zombie Dino’s
Not specifically that per se 
Just that maybe Tissos can either come from dead/mostly dead things and/or reanimate themselves. I dunno about it spreading though as I'm unsure if strains are ever implied to be a contagious thing.
I mean hearing the word "strain" makes me think so, but I always figured that was just a word they chose to just describe em.
I think a lot of us view strains as some sort of disease/parasite
Like "uh oh, this T-Carno got shot in the head and did a dead.....but fast forward 2 hours later and it's back!"
I mean if anything official and contagious,
Would be neuro goo
But neuros don’t seem the zombie type
Watch don come in and say “that’s what you think”

Lol
Also still need to see official neuro and tisso stuff , which still hasn’t been seen since evrima dropped, and tisso hasn’t had anything since old isle days of 2015
But neuro goo isnt 100% confirmed iirc 
nah, I work with genetically engineered animals and we use the term "strain" without any disease context
It's just a more technical version of the term "breed"
It was in a report that Isaac showed
People are just used to hearing the term "strain" in the context of diseases, but regular animals can have strains
You’d have to ask him
Huh
@acoustic osprey Elaboration requested 
he's probably asleep
Yeah, he probably is.
But he will check the ping when he wakes up. I hope lol
All Ik is it’s an old report or something, he sent it here once but I’m not going to search for it
oh hey I just checked regular branch, that flattened piece of land in west access isn't new to HT
Ah sadge, was hoping for it to be a nesting ground
it could still be used for that (it is right in the spot where a nesting ground is shown on the concept map), this just means they weren't working on it terribly recently
So much new stuff that is from the marketplace.. 
mmmmmm
Sounds like we will probably be getting more nesting grounds than what is shown on the concept map, too
what a ruined soup
tsk tsk
nah it just makes more soup
I12 cleared, going towards D10 and H6 now
I will find that damn halloween protocal thing
halloween protocol?
you did biology? you should know its diluted!
Would be a missed opportunity if he didnt put it ingame 
I'm a biologist, not a chef
exactly!
See I just read this as him talking about his own internal notes
I did find it funny that last night you were like "All right I'm off to bed"
And then Don pings you 
I assume its a procedure to
"Dino has came back to life!!" 
Kind of like what Dock said here
Oops, forgot to turn off ping on reply
Still waiting for him to kill my teno 
But yeah, it's possible this zombie event is a hint at tissos, or even just the basics of the mechanic
Something to do with regeneration
I have a feeling that it has something to do with Tissos venom
Hordetesting, but it's strains experiment
D10 cleared, moving onto H6
Nothing
That is terrifying
( I was stuck at 0% bleed )
I got my entire zombie footage recorded 
Will post it on YT
is it only on one server?
ah ok
So far it was just EU 2 and NA 2
-I could not bleed to death
-6+ lives
-I could not drown to death
-Every zombie could communicate regardless of species
This is making me want to make a video on it
"Strain analysis"
What makes you guys think that the zombie event is related to strains? the tissoplastic strain in specific 
Vague comments
i see
where is the port
North of east plains
still, i don't see the connection, it look like dondi is trying to mislead imo
I think we assume to much
I agree on that
I mean
We know that there is a lore correlation to this event
It has to be connected to something in lore
I think we assume too much
that would be cool
but, everything is subject to change and everything is canon until is not
And such as the Zombie Tisso comment, is the closest possible connection
I think this would apply to information that is from years ago. Not information that was just a week/s ago
Ok all Matriarch information is no longer canon 
We shall not use it to theorize on what the matriarch is

I’d love new info on the matriarch if you have some
Into the woodchipper
Generally anything regarding the Trinity or matriarch would be nice
I’ll take anything
I’ll even take the scrapped ideas
Lowkey would actually be neat if we ever got to see stuff that got cut out like concept arts we’ve never seen
Sure
The name itself isn't official though
AE-AES-1073
TYPE-N SPECIMENS
ALL TYPE-N BIO-ASSETS STUDIES ARE HALTED AS OF (4 LETTERS). FINAL STUDIES ARE TO BE CONCLUDED BENEATH ATRIUM B WITHIN (8 LETTERS). ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA-(3 LETTERS) DO NOT REPLICATE.
8 letters sounds like tartarus
But this is from legacy isnt it?
Or did I miss some evrima stuff
Yep
If thats Tartarus,
Then we could imagine that Atrium B is Perimeter 
which one is B
nevermind
hey lore kids what’s new on the docket?
Lore correlation with the halloween event
erm
Im thinking its tied to Tissos venom, not directly "This is the tisso strain"
Tisso infects normal dinosaurs with its venom, causing them to not die... well not die temporarily 
You will die sooner or later 
Or, another way to look at it.
The venom is rotting the flesh of dinosaurs. Some sort of parasite that is eating the flesh but keeping the mind in control of the body.
I think thats a more realistic perspective? No clue
does tisso have venom?
I figured this tied into regeneration, as the zombies eat flesh to gain flesh on their body
In legacy Tissos had some sort of venom iirc
Green goo stuff
That was on their spikes
yeah but legacy tisso was rather different right?
The hell
lore alert
Go, cerato! Go!
NHJ-INF : N&%J3 , 81U$&#@0
Writing it for reference
all the pressure is on you specifically
Wdym go cerato
There are like 20 other insane people (lore nerds)
One of them goes to have a nice sleep (me)
So 19 left
Goodluck guys tell me the results of desyphring
Cerato found the camera footage, so I'm rooting for him.
Some of it says AE
I think..?
Yea thats the only thing I could find lol
Whole lot of nothing
U4
I need someone who is a specialist in this
Only thing I got is
AE
U4
U44
4
Thank-you for trying 
Unless U4 is a location on the map 
GW_U4
Just laid down in bed I'll check in tomorrow
Rumple did you get anything that says "U4"?
No
Damn
Yea its a whole lot of nothing then
Wouldve been cool if that was some sort of Tisso lore video tho 
I'll try some other things later
could also be like the disease designation
similar to how COVID-19 is a disease designation
NHJ infection potentially
make that 18 ( i contribute nothing )
I was thinking that the N stands for Neuro, Neuro related stuff
Buttt, Idk.
only thing with INF in the past was Operation Inferno
i suppose the best solution is to try and get the mutation itself
I found some legacy stuff that could be related
that's the Eyeless tag
I dont even know how that person got that mutation
zombie
Yes but.
how
well
how does one get a mutation
oh god.. imagine neurotenics in the game
You cant equip mutations when you are a zombie
they had photosynthetic and then became a zombie
You dont even grow as a zombie
that's what they said
Ah, interesting.
@acoustic osprey
its auto assigned then which means there are no other mutations with lore
let's try Cerato
unless each creature gets different ones or its random
maybe it's the 'reading lore mutation' just encrypted
im going to stream trying to find it
Which photosynthetic mutation
are there any zombies on NA2 atm?
Theres a bunch on EU2, when I was on
EU2 is dead... ah
Ah, EU folks went to sleep
only 4 players on na1 west, one of those being me. I don't think people realize another server opened
only one active is NA4...
I saw someone say they heard a zombie on NA4
that screenshot with the mutation is from na4
hopping on now
once queue
Need a few minutes for a project to export on davincii first, then I will hop on
Ah, just gonna try both photosynthetic mutations.
I cannot tell if Im listening to a pre-recorded audio sequence or its just you going insane
@acoustic osprey Floating moving pieces of bones 
@acoustic osprey Top tier gameplay footage,
Messaging you on discord because latency on Youtube is crazy
nice
Meet at K15?
sure
oh
H?
I arrived to K15 JUST AS YOU DIED
Come to me now.
wah oh I location dropped. 
it's for science!
We have the same one
so theres at least 2
what mutation did you have before Jack?
photosynthetic
Isaac if you dont arrive at my location in the next 5 minutes I might die
lol
i had the 5% buff one
YOU BROKE YOUR DAMN LEG 
Same one as me
UND is for undead
ah that would make sense
Not sure what the bit after is for tho
The one that you get when you are infected says
INF
When you are a zombie it says UND, UNDEAD.
And still no clue on nhj
Thats pretty much resolved
or it's nothing at all 
Nono, it is.
NHJ-INF : N&%J3 , 81U$&#@0
vs
NHJ-UND : N&%J3, 7ie%$*#
So NHJ,
Has to be the name of the disease/parasite/virus whatever
it likely is
outside of maybe the meaning of NHJ, plus with UND and INF potentially meaning undead and infected
I shall stand strong on the feeling of the N being related to Neuro in NHJ
I think that the description portion is likely just made to look corrupted, but who knows
yeah, likely just a coded version of saying 'lorem ipsum'
Could be a code for people to identify stuff by in lore
Is that what it is? Or just an example
likely just
Also,
Isaac I just died to starvation as I was running to I12.
woop
@zenith frigate Run to Isaac, finish the mission
NHJ (TBD)
UND = Undead
INF = Infected
Description = Just a whole lot of nothing
Smart
NeuroHalloweenJunk
N(tisso)HalloweenJ(event)
yahoo
didn't get UND
i have decayed into invisiblity
Ghost
Ultra undead
i feel really bad about this
im actually invisible and i may have murdered a small child

I was hoping someone would end up doing that lol
i randomly got a second mutation
and my first inf mutation changed to UND
Second mutation is normal, its the default for being a zombie
but i didn't get that mutation till i turned invisible
huh, weird
yeah, and my first mutation got changed as well when i turned invis
because my zombie had INF not und
Interesting
so yeah
summing it up
until we can actually get into Dockyard
(all theorised)
i'm going to write this down in the doc as well
just as a could be lore /// might not be lore
seeing as Don teased it relating to lore
till we can get Don to confirm it
?????-?????-???? [REDACTED]:
INFECTED/UNDEAD DINOSAURS (all term meanings ARE speculation)
NHJ = TBD
UND = Undead
INF = Infected
Description (“N&%J3 , 81U$&#@0”) = TBD or meaningless (akin to Lorem Ipsum)
should be it for now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnZyiZ5Y-c0
Rumple also fell for it just before we did Cerato LOL
HA
but in our instance
we were locked as we were Dinosaurs
unless one of us logged
which Cerato did
but when I unstucked
... it took me to the top of it, where the slope begins
and slides be down again
I died in that mystery pit
lol
same
The other troodon also died, then we moved to omni and chatted a bit, it was fun
Yay
btw I fell in there by accident, I figured you were somewhere around but had no idea that's where you were
lol
Loll
Why am I awake 
I thought I infected you but apparently not 
didn't look like it on my end
lol
We were so excited to go down to the dock :(
lol
Bug report was filed though
Curious about what we saw under it though
same
One sec
Don't think that's it
Nope I think it was facing the other direction
ah seems like that building in the mountain is actually gone then
Like these
mhm
Can't wait to see what becomes of that spot
mmmm
If anything
Destroy the mountain, more seaside property 
I don't need any more deep water in my life pls thanks
Boardwalk tho
Also, lets toss a ton of giant crabs in the docks, it’d be fun
The ocean concepts look beautiful, seeing reefs and whatnot as a saltwater beipi sounds fun
And the omniraptor dock thingy we still need to know more about
oh?
what Rumple saw was nothing
weird
nah, that's currently there in Evrima
Some people have figured out how to reinvite the infection after server reset without our intervention.
quote from Don btw
Neato
Oh So I wasn't going insane
I think it's tied to ceras bile 
Maybe not
Gotta do some testing !!
I will try and kidnap a friend for testing.
Three options, 1 is what I think is the most likely 3 is the least.
- Ceratosaurus bile
- Troodon venom
- A combo of both 1 and 2
Not home yet
Hmmmm
Maybe eating rotten meat a lot
I will start with that first then, when I get home
maybe cannibalism as that does say or did say it gave you spasms and the zombies shake and spasm - oh wait herbivores nvm
Cannibalism with rotten meat?
Troodon venom gives you spasms
And shaking
I want to think that troodon venom is in the equation
what about starving or dehydration? you just drop and rise again
Mmmm
i'd doubt such
If it was starving we’d know
im jsut thinking TWD logic as long as the brain is intact I suppose they could rise up
So many people are starving as carni with the food changes
ah
Mini-lorehunt 3.0 here we go
I trust we'll find it soon
Do Ptera bodies even rot
Mhm
Have we tried checking all the mutation slots on a non-infected creature to see if there’s anything different there?
I give up on this
Its too difficult solo
We need to figure out how people are getting zombified after server restarts
Yeah
There is a way appearently
Im thinking that its tied to Ceras bile, but maybe not
Neuro Hemorrhagic Jaundice
NHJ
I just tried using ChatGPT to try and find what disease/virus could be NHJ
And the closest result that I could find is what I said above
Mmm, a lot of the symptoms/effects of NHJ line up with what we get ingame. Maybe its a coincidence and the name is some sort of fictional crap 
Neuro-
-Causes abnormal movements,
-shaking (Basically effects part of the brain that controls movement),
-causes internal bleeding in brain,
-speech difficulties,
-Vomiting (Sometimes vomiting blood).
-Vision problems
Hemorrhagic-
-Vomiting blood
-Tissue damage
-Sometimes paralysis in some parts of the body? (Connects to Neurological part)
Jaundice-
-Breakdown of red blood cells/tissue..
All the things I listed is what could be a related/connected symptom to the ingame version of whatever disease this is. Point is, a lot of it lines up to what the disease is ingame
. Or yk, I could just be going on a ranting session of not knowing what Im talking about.
