isle-lore-theories

[median shuttle]

huuuge W

[hexed forge]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Of course

[patent ginkgo]

My hopes and dreams for botany lore crushed once again 🪴

[dawn arch]

Lorers wins

[hexed forge]

No more plants for you

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/watering-flower-thirsty-drinking-watering-plants-watering-sunflower-gif-15232571

[patent ginkgo]

Embed fail

[median shuttle]

[lethal moat]

Time to look over the devblog again when I’m not sleepy

Not much that I missed, but UI stuff in October is going to be great, wonder how much menu lore with be useful in-game at a later date

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-the-plant-vegans-gif-23768796

The replicator does not like plants

[lethal moat]

What sort of lore are we expecting from UI changes?
I’m hoping for some usernames/passwords that can be used on in game terminals, some camera stuff, maybe more things on loading screens that could give dates or locations on a world map, tracking chip stuff, etc

[patent ginkgo]

I think more info on what AE does

Maybe some stuff on why dinos too

[lethal moat]

[lethal moat]

Maybe EIP stuff

[hexed forge]

I'm expecting some more clues on the F5 grid

Since we will be seeing cameras on the menus, just like legacy

And HOPEFULY they are able to be clicked on and we can view the camera location, temperature etc etc

[low scarab]

I was about to post that in fact opened this channel to do that very w

im just now reading the dev blog ive been so busy today

well I will say after reading

they massively cooked this devblog

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[low scarab]

however,

please let this include strain plants "flora and fauna that you can interact with and in some circumstances, interact with you."

I hunger for gameplay mechanics and filling the gameplay loop

[hexed forge]

Are you referring to the event or just in general

[low scarab]

I shouldve put quotes there lol

but just in general

not the event though

[fast forge]

yeah I was thinking PvE plant traps when I saw that

carnivorous plants or whatever

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-john-hammond-yahoo-jurassic-park-yahoo-john-hammond-yahoo-gif-21207753

[nimble fractal]

Anyone got the high-quality picture of the megalith tower?

[lethal moat]

This?

[nimble fractal]

Yeah, ty Rumple

Can't wait for these

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ultrasad-gif-23310565

[lethal moat]

I do find it interesting we've always ignored the small town in the background

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

I dont think its relevant/important

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[snow jasper]

yo guys :o

[lethal moat]

I saw that

[snow jasper]

I made it ages ago, forgot about it

[patent ginkgo]

lore is eternal

[muted reef]

You must give up

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-think-idea-i-know-gif-21412552

[low scarab]

same here

[red oar]

Are neurotenic and tissoplastic dinosaurs still canon?

[lethal moat]

Yep

[red oar]

Awesome

I love me some psychic type dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

I hope the Halloween event lasts atleast a week, hopefully enough for us to gather a few details on the "lore" correlation lol

[patent ginkgo]

Yes def

And to let people play it quite a bit

[hexed forge]

Would be a fun memory for this game

Isnt this technically the first seasonal "event" ingame?

I know sometime during halloween some devs played Troodon on ST or smthn, not sure.

But it doesnt count as an event I suppose

[young viper]

First Evrima event i imagine

[hexed forge]

Were there any events in legacy?

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-t-rex-roar-rexy-tyrannosaurus-rex-gif-26203833

[young viper]

Im not sure, ive seen some but idk if those were official things

[snow jasper]

dondi herd

[hexed forge]

Interesting

[snow jasper]

though the herd mass Migration events just happened iirc, plus this was like 2017 or before but idek

that was so long ago

[short zenith]

Some community servers would do “the great migration events” essentially a huge portion (like 50) of herbivore players would gather in one place, and they would have a migration to an undisclosed location that only one admin knew about. This admin would play as a cama to set the pace and act as the leader of the migration. Throughout a bunch of carnivores would be brought in to attack the herbivores and you just had to try and make it to the end

[hexed forge]

Yeah but I meant like Officially, events set-up by the devs.

[short zenith]

Dondi injected some content creators as hypers sometimes lol

Thats about it

How did i end in the lore theories channel again……

Someone got a lore explanation for that???

[muted reef]

It was destined

[hexed forge]

Destiny

[snow jasper]

The stars aligned

[acoustic osprey]

yes, it was pre-destiny

your second time as well
which means it is true

[acoustic osprey]

not really

unless you call the random 'screen lore text' an event
or strain youtubers / devs playing

this would be the proper 'built-in' event of a sort

[short zenith]

Someone invite me to the lore server i now i clearly have deep connections to the lore

[acoustic osprey]

FINE!!

[lethal moat]

Bet

[short zenith]

Something something dinosaurs

The isle lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[short zenith]

Just yes. All the strange lore bits that make no sense falls under “something something”

[acoustic osprey]

this is true

[lethal moat]

Are they really dinosaurs though?

[short zenith]

Something something

[lethal moat]

Are you real?

[short zenith]

Is anything real?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[lethal moat]

You tell me

[acoustic osprey]

this is true

[lethal moat]

I know 🌈 little✨ and hopefully we'll get to a point where we learn the basics and move out from there

[lethal moat]

Going back to the theory about AE trying to recreate/save the world from climate change, if you were to save the planet by repopulating the environment, you could have a monopoly on the environment and more, you would basically control most of all renewable resources

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/b1eGj.gif

[lethal moat]

I feel like I’m starting to slowly get warmer

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/btnLa.gif

[acoustic osprey]

either getting warmer, or getting colder to the point it starts to burn

[lethal moat]

I thought that was a garbage can for a moment

[acoustic osprey]

would you say physical power of the environment
or just the business side of such?

[lethal moat]

One is easier than the other, and the easier one is more profitable, but if controlling the physical power of the environment eliminates the possibility of competition, why not go for it

[acoustic osprey]

climate wars sounds interesting lol

[lethal moat]

Or just send in the genetically engineered kill team

[acoustic osprey]

almost cyber-punk-esque

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek2-shrek-smiling-ogre-gif-17463374

[lethal moat]

You mess with the bull, you get the horns

[acoustic osprey]

heck
for all we could know

the 'rival companies' talked about prior might less be copycat esque companies (like InGen v BioSyn, both bio-engineering companies making dinos)
but more so rival companies in the business of 'saving the world' (through X unique matter/aspect)

[lethal moat]

We’re going to stop climate change!
We’re going to mars!
Yall ever seen a carnotaurus eat a goat? %#$@ing crazy man.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wah-oh-boring-leprechaun-wah-oh-wah-oh-boring-wah-oh-dead-gif-27189059

[lethal moat]

I’m curious how much other companies know about Apollo’s work, because they’re all trying to profit off of everything they can, so are they curious about a rival’s potential future product, or do they know for certain what Apollo is doing and trying to throw up walls and spikes on their path to success?
And, at what point would they find out if they did know, was there a data leak? Did someone defect?

Or was it a jurassic park (novels) situation where something got off the island?

Oh so many options, but the answer could also give the tiniest insight as to how gen 1 are used, to either prevent the spread of information, prevent an anticipated attack, or both

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carell-anythings-possible-limitless-gif-16382417

If AE does intend on monopolizing the environment, they didn’t quite get it right based off the current state of the island, or they just got massively outplayed by sabotage and freak accidents

[acoustic osprey]

unironically ... life (might just) finds a way

[lethal moat]

I disagree

I feel like we’ve determined that unless you’re special to AE somehow, life is fairly expendable

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, more so, in terms of what AE might have done didn't really 'save the world'

as the world has saved itself
with or without AE

[lethal moat]

Are the islands the only location where AE’s great plan is in effect?

[acoustic osprey]

i'd say yes but we don't even know how or what they're doing to help in the first place

properly

[lethal moat]

I’d say AE’s well on their way to monopolizing the environment, because P L A N T

[acoustic osprey]

still though
we're truly yet to see

[pseudo fable]

[lethal moat]

I need to go dig through some old quotes for some evidence rq

[pseudo fable]

I don't think that storybed matters to most people. It would take place off of the island in an environment I can't really create.

[lethal moat]

But background context is always fun

[acoustic osprey]

ah, so i suppose
depending on how front / important the whole climate / save the world (?) aspect is

what we see, in The Isle, is not exactly THAT - but more so a related aspect / 'one' point of view

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of hard lore evidence though
not discord quotes

[acoustic osprey]

this is where you insert The Isle Cinematic ||Video graphic|| Universe ™️
the (TIVGU / TICU)

[lethal moat]

I’m of the opinion that background context matters just as much as the story itself, since without it, there would be no reason for the story to take place

The background provides the need, the (form of media) fulfills that need

[acoustic osprey]

still though
most people glance over a lot of background context / subtext when playing games

they're playing a video game over watching a movie for a reason

for people like us though ... completely different though

[lethal moat]

Lets take the Predator movie for example, knowing the tiniest bit about the vietnam war is important, otherwise they’d never be in the jungle in the first place

[acoustic osprey]

my friend got me and another friend to play the Arkham game series
He watched us both play at different times

He noticed I took longer (albeit, played better) because I was exploring every little crook and nanny

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though, at the same time, you don't really need to know.

[pseudo fable]

Did you pay your respects in Arkham City?

[lethal moat]

I’ll typically run through something, then go back and appreciate it after I have a basic understanding

[pseudo fable]

Yes, but you don't need to know every handshake and deal that occurred to get AE where it is. It started to turn into more of a book and less of a game story. I had to stick to game story. A lot of the skeleton will remain nothing more than notes.

[lethal moat]

Fair enough

[acoustic osprey]

[pseudo fable]

I've written protocol documentation for island procedures that players will never do because

https://tenor.com/J2nc.gif

[lethal moat]

It is neat

I appreciate attention to detail

[pseudo fable]

I even got one for the Halloween bit.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/django-unchained-christoph-waltz-reward-gif-19314746

[lethal moat]

Nice

[lethal moat]

Still need to watch that one

[acoustic osprey]

definitely got to

[lethal moat]

I did get inglorious bastards done though, that was fun

[acoustic osprey]

very nice

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/31cit-gif-14832668423245671461

[lethal moat]

Need to bring back lorecord movie nights and watch the rest of the jurassic park films

[acoustic osprey]

his next movie, sadly, doesn't seem like it'll be happening though
The Movie Critic

[lethal moat]

Damn

[lethal moat]

Surely lorecord won’t turn this into lore hunt 2 electric boogaloo

[acoustic osprey]

however
yes.

It is MUCH appreciated having stuff like hard.
it is definitely hard to please every crowd
but building upon the backside of your world is something, even if you're not trying to please a crowd and more so make what you want and what feels nice, is good.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-drinking-thats-good-gif-18043517

[lethal moat]

Anyway, it’s late and I’ve got early class tomorrow, have a good evening/night gentlemen

[acoustic osprey]

ciao!

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fallen-kingdom-i-used-to-rule-the-world-street-walk-sad-gif-4248815713731672653

[fossil nebula]

dun dun dun dunnu dun duh duh duh dunnu duh

that animation style reminded me of Revenge song but thats fallen kingdom lol

[hexed forge]

I assume we will be able to find these ingame... sometime... soon..tm #isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

would be cool

#isle-phase-three message
basically this, i suppose

but actually in-game

[hexed forge]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

more of 'those', i find, would be soo fascinating

i talk about it in the recent podcast ep, albeit ... i went insane in that one

but I find myself really fascinated, a lot more than others, with the ERRANT-291 document

maybe that is because it's the only video?

or maybe that it's the most 'lore lore' we have of actual 'lore' atm

that being, AUGUSTUS and Dibble Video contain lore but are, though first and foremost, dinosaur showcases

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm

[oblique surge]

AE-made zombie strain and a list of procedures on how to deal with an accidental outbreak

[hexed forge]

Zombie strain...

You mean Tisso

[oblique surge]

Maybe!

[lethal moat]

I'm hoping this is some sort of failed tisso experiment or something tisso adjacent

[hexed forge]

Possible

[patent ginkgo]

if we finally get tisso stuff that would be amazing

[hexed forge]

We know there is some sort of lore correlation to the Halloween event, and we know that tissos can be compared to zombies. Sooo if you connect the dots

Also Im still expecting a halloween video

[lethal moat]

I'm not

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-two-towers-lord-of-the-rings-aragorn-helm’s-deep-hope-gif-8669068073397169641

[low scarab]

Uh oh guys

Rumps gonna put us to work

[lethal moat]

I would never

[hexed forge]

Wonder where that would be, the Eastern Docks maybe?

[lethal moat]

Or it won't be in the hordetest, and he's just saying something exists in reference to what we'll experience

[hexed forge]

Seems kind of weird that he made something specifically for the "halloween bit" if its not going to be ingame. Will it just be a phase-three post?

[lethal moat]

Maybe, I kinda hope so, would be easier to look at then in-game text

[low scarab]

I do hope we see some changes regarding UI though imo it felt somewhat bland in the few images we have gotten so far but I do kind of trust don knows what he is doing ui wise

[hexed forge]

What we have to find it first in-game, and then Don would post a more clear version in Phase three after we find it

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

[muted reef]

I 100%'d all of them the riddler stuff is not as hard as most say theres just a lot

They're amazing I can't wait for arkham shadows

I've heard it's literally just an arkham game on vr

[lethal moat]

I’m trying to figure out how the hell strains and things like the matriarch could fit into this vision

My current theory is that the strains are intended to be a super vaccine of sorts against things that will inevitably happen:
Hypers being more durable against physical damage
Neuros potentially being more resistant to disease or something, idk
And Tisso recovering from injuries quickly

Or neuro could just be another weapon

From what we don’t know now but guess from legacy, it’s abilities seem to hard counter most things that benefit humans

[still comet]

anyone have an idea of when this event is supoose to happen?

[lethal moat]

Sometime soon, hopefully before halloween

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like it'll be a Halloween based/ timed event

From what Don has said

[hexed forge]

Hopefully it's not just 1 day

[acoustic osprey]

who knows...

if there's some effort to it
I can imagine the devs wanting it to be a long-ish event

[median shuttle]

would be cool if it became a custom gamemode that made a return every year

[snow jasper]

im fine with that so long as i can play on an official server thats not involved with the event

[acoustic osprey]

^

albeit, unless it's on a specialised HT branch

[hexed forge]

If this event is successful maybe there will be an "Event" branch. Who knows

[lethal moat]

I think it’ll be like a normal hordetest in terms of how it’s operated, it’s just advertised differently and won’t go to the main game

[hexed forge]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Time to watch the new Quiet Place Movie,

Lets see how well this hypes me up for gen1s .

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-place-monster-alien-gif-22491042

[lethal moat]

I liked the movie’s development of how the death angels acted

[hexed forge]

Did they get more intelligent?

[lethal moat]

This movie takes place in the very beginning

[hexed forge]

Noticed, alr cya in an hour after the movie

[lethal moat]

I would say comparing them to gen 1 isn’t a good comparison, it is certainly a comparison though

[hexed forge]

They communicate

[lethal moat]

It checked to make sure something was dead

[hexed forge]

Hmm

It called out with weird sounds and a bunch more death angels came.

[lethal moat]

Yep

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

And there’s different types

Very different from gen 1, but still neato

[hexed forge]

Ohh neat

[hexed forge]

Finished it

It was enjoyable, 8/10

[snow jasper]

WHAT

CERATO, WHY

why have you joined the dark side

[hexed forge]

What did I do

Oh im pink

[snow jasper]

You're pink

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-terror-evangelion-shinji-scared-gif-12279545

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

[acoustic osprey]

Potentially
For the future

But i don't know
I'd probably just have an official server(s) pop up when an event happens

[hexed forge]

[lofty swallow]

save the cat at all costs

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/fXW-QjBsruE
on our conversation about EIPs ||what makes you YOU, etc|| from a few months back
especially the first actual section (not the intro)

not as a point to answer - but as related to our talks ... always a fun video by Vsauce

[snow jasper]

oh no

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes

[snow jasper]

First time I've ever been correct according to Vsauce
I usually avoid watching him mostly because whatever idea I would have on something ends there since I cannot disprove whatever follows up that explanation
Its clever video structure

I am me-ing

Also, the new discord forward feature actually seems to be beneficial for #dev-quotes in Lorecord
You can see the message in the server and also go directly to discussion in the main server, regardless of if you're banned, muted, or even in the server

Interesting...

[lethal moat]

Ooo, that’ll be helpful

[lethal moat]

I love ontology and metaphysics

[hexed forge]

Amazing

[fast forge]

I love ontogeny

[lethal moat]

Vats, growth vats, we still need to see the vats

[hexed forge]

"I will set something up soon"

Soon.. who knows maybe we get it with the Halloween event

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/vats-fallout-target-vault-108-gif-12021170

[brisk escarp]

@jovial bobcat join gen 8 if still in group

[low scarab]

no way we got isaac using vsauce to explain lore

[snow jasper]

I'll be honest, I struggled to find the connection

but I was too invested

[acoustic osprey]

NO THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID!!

[acoustic osprey]

!!!

[lethal moat]

Lets see if he can get game theory to do something next time

[acoustic osprey]

preferably no

if matpat would do it sure
but current game theory is just ... yeah

they'd just do it because it was popular / to make money

[lethal moat]

We’ve got an early start on making lore content for the isle

[acoustic osprey]

early start

if you exclude legacy's lore content from MeatyLock

[snow jasper]

I forgot about that

[acoustic osprey]

he's always online
i still wonder if he'll properly come back to Isle Lore vids

he'd triumph over us because of sub count though

[snow jasper]

better start pioneering the isle’s lore sphere of influence on youtube now before some big lore guy that hops from game to game, arrives and floods a whole bunch of misinformation to none the wiser viewers

[acoustic osprey]

but it would be intersting
I presume he is in the same boat like HellShade

only properly COME BACK once lore starts fully loring

[acoustic osprey]

i'm too lazy... (more so, i hate editing my videos)

self esteem 👎

[snow jasper]

I‘d do it, but I dont have the voice to voice

or so I think

So I‘ll forever remain Anonymous

[lethal moat]

I like to think we keep any misinformation to a minimum, but also, we do assume some things

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/adorable-yogurt-spaceballs-its-cute-aint-he-adorable-gif-24854445

[snow jasper]

More than most

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't say we misinform
but we can, at times, confuse assumption and theorisation
taking our word, whomever's word, a bit more than its face value

[lethal moat]

Fair

[acoustic osprey]

but we definitely don't misinform
unless it's real old information that either I have said wrong or it's had it's own tale of chinese whispers

[lethal moat]

I would be willing the bet at least 1 thing on the main lore document is incorrect though

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

potentially less so incorrect
and more so the wrong direction of idea

[snow jasper]

nah, i have faith

[acoustic osprey]

there was still SOME info i had to remove on the doc a few months back

[snow jasper]

did you do it..

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[snow jasper]

Jolly good

[hexed forge]

Isaac this is your monthly reminder about the Dibble video.

When

[acoustic osprey]

^ was about the matriarch, funnily enough lol

[fast forge]

tbh I think this game will take off when evrima moves to main branch

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-begging-pretty-please-beg-on-your-knees-pray-for-mercy-gif-26344462

[acoustic osprey]

if it moves to main branch properly
definitely with some content backing it

and adverts

[fast forge]

I think established Isle content creators will get a boost then

[acoustic osprey]

look at Gateway
i thought THAT would boost numbers higher than an ENGINE upgrade lol

but it had NO trailer
and got barely anything

[snow jasper]

Deck the buses of London with The Isle‘s advertising

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

Was sad

[acoustic osprey]

very painful

[fast forge]

one of those big ads in Times Square

[snow jasper]

Yes

[hexed forge]

$10k for 10 seconds

[lethal moat]

I like how every time something significant pops up, like that one matriarch video, a bunch of people pop up asking questions
I love it when people ask wuestions

[acoustic osprey]

'survive.'

survive what? New York! Yeah I do that every day with these damn rats the size of chickens!

[hexed forge]

Thats why ISAAC NEEDS TO FINISH HIS DIBBLE VIDEO

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-gulp-gulps-nervous-uh-oh-gif-16217862

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/finish-it-dean-jensen-ackles-supernatural-end-it-gif-19503396

[acoustic osprey]

don't worry
1 year anniversary of my last lore video should be soon!! 🙂

so... yeah. Maybe!!!

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

i'm going to do it at my university
using their proper mics

that'll push me to actually finish it lol
and they have DaVinci as well

[fast forge]

for what it's worth I've got a partially complete video project that's been on the back burner for months
started it during dibble hordetest

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-what-you-must-do-green-goblin-goblin-willem-dafoe-norman-osborn-gif-24234930

[fast forge]

so, you're not alone

[hexed forge]

What is it?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-falling-fallen-kingdom-fallen-kingdom-gif-6774652182841014167

[fast forge]

Mutations, and the real-world meanings of their names

[hexed forge]

Also I also had a video project, but then I changed it, then scrapped it, then changed it again... Isaac knows about it probably

These 2 sections were erased, changed, and scrapped atleast 5 times

[fast forge]

I also have a concept for the next devblog, but that's going to be something completely different from anything I've ever done (and anything anyone has done for Isle content)

well, the format is

[hexed forge]

Better to wait for the next patch, since it includes mutation changes/additions

Which is hopefully soon....?

[fast forge]

Ehhh we still have the original list of mutations, I don't know if the next patch will have anything that's not on that list

For that video I really only need the names, but it would be fun to have some footage of the mutation selection screen for each mutation

(fun but exhausting to film)

[hexed forge]

Hardest part about making videos.

The motivation

"Why spend time doing it when it can be changed at x time"
"What if its a complete failure?"

[snow jasper]

my excuse for videos is that i am genuinely too busy and shy to do so

[acoustic osprey]

make it for yourself

[fast forge]

I've had rather large content creators give me some advice
Do it for the fun of it
And JUST DO IT
Get it done, put it out there, let the world decide

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/nacho-why-confused-jack-black-gif-8714598

[acoustic osprey]

then why make at all
art was, in it's original nature, a way of expressing yourself
almost always for yourself

[fast forge]

^^^^

[snow jasper]

dont think about the numbers, simulate the numbers as a crowd of people

[fast forge]

admittedly the numbers are validating

[acoustic osprey]

painters mostly made art
and no one saw them

most of them died insane of course
but they made their art for themselves knowing they wouldn't really win

[snow jasper]

100 views is a small theatre of people

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

[snow jasper]

1,000 views is a stadium‘s worth

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[lethal moat]

I’m rocking 2nd grade basketball game audience levels of viewership 😎

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

The podcast is unironically one of my favorite things though, it’s fun to actually talk about stuff rather than just text

[acoustic osprey]

i think i just go insane every time

[hexed forge]

When are you not insane

[fast forge]

keep uploading the podcast to youtube

[lethal moat]

I do it for my enjoyment and I find editing to be the worst thing ever

[fast forge]

that's fair, but does it require much editing?

[lethal moat]

If I were to put it on Youtube, I would want it done well, the one already up isn’t quite to the standard I like and it took me too long

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-falling-fallen-kingdom-fallen-kingdom-gif-6774652182841014167

to be fair
you wouldn't really need much editing

if people know it's a podcast
just VODed into YouTube

there are some good examples of doing it well with minimal editing

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-that-migo-smallfoot-huh-what-the-gif-19590374

[fast forge]

video views

[hexed forge]

For what video

[fast forge]

Markiplier

[hexed forge]

Oh lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/s0UsjyfCFIc
https://www.youtube.com/@OfficialRedTeamReview

these guys do GRRM and ASoIAF stuff
and half their content is just a recorded Podcast
with no visuals besides one frame

[fast forge]

omg redteamreview

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

This is real

[fast forge]

I'm a pariah in the ice and fire community because I'm a Preston Jacobs fan

oh yeah definitely 6 billion

75% of all human beings have watched that video

[hexed forge]

Use the Ben "Isle lore" gif for the lore podcast

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1219346714587304077/The_Isle_Lore.gif

Im sure thats pleasing to look at

[fast forge]

You could also use icons that light up when people talk, I know my gf does it in her streams

idk how it works exactly, tied to discord somehow, but I don't think it's hard

[lethal moat]

I’d like something like that

[hexed forge]

Just kidnap hacker ^

[lethal moat]

Edit it as we record, rather than doing stuff afterwards

If I could get that to work, I’d probably put much more on YouTube

[fast forge]

This is the discord plugin used for it, I think each person who wants a light up icon (ideally everyone in the channel or call) would need to have it installed
https://reactive.fugi.tech/

My gf showed me the UI, looks pretty straightforward

[acoustic osprey]

i'd be down

[lethal moat]

Good to know, appreciate it

Definitely something to test out when I get back on Sunday

[fast forge]

yeee

[brisk escarp]

ddd

[fast forge]

eee

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-helmet-absolutely-nothing-dark-helmet-absolutely-nothing-gif-27266149

[lethal moat]

Lets make something then, what greek myth/diety would you like to see as a name and what do you want it assigned to?

[fast forge]

I don't know greek mythology

I know norse better, and I know there are some similar characters

[acoustic osprey]

Asklepios would be interesting, being apollons son

[lethal moat]

He’s the one with the medical cadecus correct, hermes being the one with two snakes, Asklepios with just the one?

[acoustic osprey]

staff, not cadecus

his staff is the one that the american health peoples forgot about over Hermes' caduceus

[lethal moat]

I’d like to see Artemis, Athena, Dionysus, or Lycan mentioned somewhere

[lethal moat]

Also, yippie, 300 people in lore server 🥳

A full .2% of this server’s population

Hold up, what would necessitate human trials of strains? They likely weren’t finished, and we don’t know the end goal of them

Is Echidna an accident?

What does CARRIER mean

[acoustic osprey]

I could see Minos, potentially, as judging of EIPs

[lethal moat]

Might be the name of a part of the replicator

[normal olive]

Me after 7 episodes of the Isle lore podcast:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/568284971337252866/1253981891539894336/caption.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hexed forge]

Lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/russianbadger-gif-17761023520702001272

[lethal moat]

Hold up, you’re not in the lore server, you want in?

[normal olive]

send the invite, I crave knowledge

[lethal moat]

Sent

[sand pike]

There’s a lore server and podcast?

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/once-you-start-no-going-back-daddy-talk-gif-12390474

[sand pike]

https://tenor.com/view/always-ready-gif-14315684

I’m ready

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/looks-like-we-got-another-one-cop-here-we-go-again-victim-accident-gif-15486595

[lethal moat]

You want an invite?

[sand pike]

Yes please

[lethal moat]

Sent

[muted reef]

Fresh UI I need

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[hexed forge]

Technically we get fresh UI every update because the version updates

0.191.4 to 0.191.5 , etc

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-bites-the-dust-queen-dance-dancing-gif-8171986

[muted reef]

That also must be removed

I do not want to see allat

But it being in settings would be nice

It could be passed off as the update version the actual software apollo is on just for funsies

[lethal moat]

I’m interested to see how/if the in game UI changes

[hexed forge]

In-Game as in in the server spawned in as a creature?

Ima guess that it wont change, yet

[lethal moat]

The tab menus and such, rather than how you navigate the menus

[hexed forge]

But if it does, Im not sure how much it would change really
I would LOVE some new mutation UI since it looks like the UI we have currently is simply a placeholder

Someone even proposed a "Family genetics" tab. Where you can see your ancestors and the mutations that were passed down to you.

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[hexed forge]

Also some changes to the diet UI would be neat. Not sure how tho

Overall I would love for the entire UI to be changed/adjusted. But it seems like that isnt happening anytime soon.

[acoustic osprey]

i hope it will be

would be weird if it didnt

[low scarab]

Protest for the return of the loading screen lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-i-dont-know-maybe-ehhh-tony-gif-17090250

i don't know

it's just a bit geneirc

maybe we'll see some in the future
but not really excited about it

it is just a bit up in the nose about it

[low scarab]

If we have cooler ideas to get lore from the ui I’m not against it

[muted reef]

[bold crater]

What if the new UI had a terminal that we could access menus from (think Lethal Company terminal), but some things were secret and revealed lore when discovered.
Like everything's going as usual, you hop on Isle and go to type in the terminal to bring up the server browser....but you wonder "heh, what if I type "OLYMPUS" just to see" and it actually brings up a lore document about the Olympus Transmitter

Stuff like that

Could even be connected to lore documents found in game, preferably with an in-game form of a terminal. Find a document, type it's title or whatnot into either the in-game or main menu terminal, discover more l o r e

[hexed forge]

I would love that

I think something similar was in legacy

There was a third option called "Log-in" and people had to figure out the password I think. And someone did it

[bold crater]

[median shuttle]

https://youtu.be/K648aEX1KBI?si=cZcSe7w8hcBfSMmS
Kinda hoping that gen2 gameplay will be similar to how this game does specifically animation and hud wise

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-i-hope-so-please-please-gif-19730905

[low scarab]

those graphics are sick

[snow jasper]

Love jack and his vids
Might give this game a go actually, not seen it before

But as you said, I really do hope Gen 2 gameplay feels like that because it looks and seems to feel really smooth.

Another couple of things, the fact that monitors display what's going on in real time is even cooler and something I hope the isle does with the tablets and other computers
Also the reloads actually display the top round which is something I want to see in the isle with how every bullet matters so you can swap out a magazine for a full one when you need to unload them all into a larger Dinosaur and just in general and better yet if you can keep empty magazines and be made to manually load them 1 by 1

I do think its a shame we dont have nearly as much information to see when it comes to Human items and what they will be able to interact with and how they'll operate as opposed to the Dinosaurs which understandably so, 90% of the playerbase is here for the Dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-li-soon-real-soon-very-soon-gif-23841516

[snow jasper]

I didn't ask for an ETA

Do NOT EVER tell me Soon, save that for the noobs

[lethal moat]

It's more hopium for me

[snow jasper]

:(

[lethal moat]

Wonder what the density of hopium is

[snow jasper]

This sounds like Chemistry, I'm out

[hexed forge]

Infinite

[lethal moat]

I dub a singular electron that acts as it's own atom, Hopium

[snow jasper]

uhhhhhh, what do we know about AE's arsenal

Its been a hot while since I heard talk about the in universe companies, there's no confirmed/named arms dealers yet?

[lethal moat]

There's GRADIC and the shotgun one

[snow jasper]

Ah, I hate the shotgun one, didnt know it was its own thing

[lethal moat]

Crunchy image

[snow jasper]

But yeah, I hate the shotgun's pictatinny rail being barrel length only for a holographic rear sight

thats like 1/25 of the length

[lethal moat]

I will be putting a flashlight on top, obscuring my aim entirely

[snow jasper]

I do hope the rail is detachable, mostly because I would take the stock ironsights over holographic sights

Something about aligning the frontal and rear sights gives me more faith in hitting shots

[lethal moat]

Red dot tho

[snow jasper]

No.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-lazer-pointer-cute-gif-7775618

[snow jasper]

I can see the appeal for shotguns, not for me personally though

but I think shotguns are gonna get the same video game treatment for balance

[hexed forge]

Close Range = POWERRRRRR
Far Range = I gave the raptor a small wound

[snow jasper]

I hate nothing more than it

[lethal moat]

If it's realistic buckshot and not "cone of death" I can accept it

[snow jasper]

I can't wait for the guns though

[lethal moat]

I'm more excited for the nonviolent options

[median shuttle]

As a non American I don't know too much abt guns what's realistic buckshot like?

[lethal moat]

I posted a very comprehensive video in lorecord, won't post it here because I won't test rule 5 with ballistic dummies

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/itwillkill-forgedinfire-it-will-kill-gif-5240853

[lethal moat]

I liked that show, reminds me of a cooking show, but with metal

[snow jasper]

thats one way of putting it lol

The bolt action rifle im also not sure about
It looks like an M24 bolt action, but it has a useless frontal sight, which isn't present on most M24's
and its made obselete by another pictatinny rail that we still dont know is detachable

[lethal moat]

My main question is if I can hide things inside the stock

[snow jasper]

Maybe not that stock

though, perfect place for a cigar

[lethal moat]

I had to dig through the recesses of a meme channel for this one

But unironically, storing a survival knife or extra ammo in the stock would be handy

I'd swap that spring on the stock for some essentials storage, just some more recoil in game maybe

Wonder how well supplied the watch towers are, do they bring most of any supplies up and just use the desk for paperwork?

[snow jasper]

More than likely for paperwork, I highly doubt they're just there for Guarding and if AE can, they'd make their employees gun trained on top of doing the boring paperwork. Also seeing how the larger the animal is, the more noise they make, there's no need to stand watch 24/7 ready and armed and if need be, you can do rotations between Guarding and the boring stuff.

You can just pause your work once you hear abnormally weighted footsteps and grab your gun. As for smaller creatures, the screams would be loud enough and I see no reason as to why anyone would be on the ground without a weapon of sort, even if its just a crowbar.

[lethal moat]

Maybe some sort of connection to motion sensors either on a pda or to the towers themselves

[snow jasper]

Motion sensors as well as tracking chips on injected creatures
Though I think tracking chips would be more reliable despite the flaw in naturally born dinosaurs not being chipped

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, I see those watch towers more so for guarding

not, though, heavily armed / armed guarding because dinosaur
but more so a mixture of protection over dinosaurs, guarding and clearance of transportation (of X, Y and Z, etc) and observance of borders

that's where paperwork could definitely come in
especially with just checking off what and who came through
alongside what you might see on the borders of where ever your watch tower is positioned

[lethal moat]

You can do paperwork while guarding, especially if you have assistance from motion capture cameras and tracking chips

[acoustic osprey]

as they basically always act as a physical outpost on the border of areas
like the Port

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
I don't imagine it'd be a waiting sentry 24/7

but guards, in real life, still have to guard

[lethal moat]

Right, but desk is very convenient

The towers could also be unfinished

[acoustic osprey]

seems like so
seeing as it had (still has? can't remember) missing texture/error blocks

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely
'HUD' stuff like this should basically be non-existent for Gen2s

makes it far more effective and immersive for the player

[tender shard]

Context?

[muted hill]

rex vocals there will be 2 options iirc, natural and JP styles

[acoustic osprey]

not really the right channel
but Don said there are 2 calls for Rex

[lethal moat]

Just a rex

[mortal hound]

Hi lore bros, it's been a while. Anything interesting found when the docks were added to the map?

[fast forge]

I'd answer you but I'm not a bro so I'm unqualified

[lethal moat]

Not a ton, mostly GUTS entrances is what we’ve been paying attention to since Docks isn’t finished

[mortal hound]

I saw Kouga's video shortly showcasing it and noticed the tunnels! Instantly thought of my education from you and Isaac.

Also last time I was here you were mod, now admin. so Congrats on the promotion!

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[mortal hound]

So no like interesting clipboards or anything?

That's what I was thinking of that could be there

[lethal moat]

One dude is really struggling, there’s eviction notice, lost dog, and divorce papers on a cork board

[mortal hound]

damn, bottom of the barrel

hope he wasnt mauled and sorted his life out 🙏

[lethal moat]

I’m sure he’s out there somewhere

[mortal hound]

he built a boat and escaped the island!

[lethal moat]

His name is Mark EtPlace Asset

[mortal hound]

Genius

that was really good actually

default unity human model

[hexed forge]

INTRUDERR

Where have you been.

[mortal hound]

I stopped playing the isle for a while so I left the server

I got an itch to come back and play again though

currently just killed a taco as troodon

[hexed forge]

Hahaha nice

[mortal hound]

yummers

[hexed forge]

Don't say that word, Rumple might be lurking

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/falco-gif-26864843

[mortal hound]

I completely forgot about that

[open cairn]

guys, what if there a tank in one of bunkers😳

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-meme-spin-tank-gif-4023090852990224147

[fossil nebula]

it would kill all the hyper dinos easy

[lethal moat]

Hyper canon is just HEAT rounds

[fossil nebula]

I mean that'd be more effective so makes sense

[hexed forge]

Or just imagine that HEAT rounds cant puncture Hypers.

Skin being more thick than we ever imagined

[fossil nebula]

thats actually where apfsds comes in

[mortal hound]

what does HEAT stand for

[lethal moat]

High Explosive Anti-Tank

[mortal hound]

ah

my arms are HEAT because I'm so strong fr

[fossil nebula]

it penetrates then explodes a shaped charge which disperses fragments in a certain direction

[mortal hound]

I've played war thunder I think I know how this looks

thanks war thunder for helping me visualize explosives!

[fossil nebula]

well since it wont detonate till it hits its target it also has unlimited effective range, only limited by the cannons velocity

[mortal hound]

neat

[fossil nebula]

yeah thats why its still used today

[hexed forge]

And they said that Videogames dont teach you anything.

Say that to the Bradley commander who learned the weak spots of a T-90 through videogames !!

[open cairn]

APFSDS is cooles round type

Armor
Piercing
Fin
Stabilized
Disposable
Sabot

[fossil nebula]

yeap

[lethal moat]

Really, right in front of my HESH round?

In all reality though, I think the best way to deal with hypers is chemical weapons

[open cairn]

183mm hesh is good...

[open cairn]

true

[hexed forge]

Kill them from the inside

Some sort of gas perhaps

[open cairn]

yeah, i feel like Cerato ould be professional with that

[lethal moat]

Give a hyper something that increases their metabolism even more and starve them faster

[hexed forge]

Or just completely shuts down their metabolism

[open cairn]

Cera mekes throw up, just like wwar chemicals

[hexed forge]

Try getting the bile through that thick skin

We are thinking that its more gas-related. Likely

[open cairn]

yez

https://tenor.com/view/jetstream-sam-geneva-convention-warcrime-war-metal-gear-rising-gif-25207866

[open cairn]

already did

back in '17

and '18

and '16

possibly in '19, but i refuse to admit it

[lethal moat]

Just toss gas grenades filled with particulates out of a helicopter in front of a hyper while it’s eating and your problem solves itself

[open cairn]

i kinda rounded up all the POWs and lined them up against a wall

[lethal moat]

This is lore theories channel

[open cairn]

then a little bit of torture

this is MY lore

[lethal moat]

It doesn’t belong here and it’s not funny

[open cairn]

naw, it ain't joking, i really did that

UN can't find me here in Bosnia

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

For neuro, if the neuros need water constantly like we suspect, you might just need a blow drier

[hexed forge]

Dry em

Use Dryo

[lethal moat]

Nice pun

[lethal moat]

If tissos are zombie adjacent, maybe just some febreeze to keep the stink out

[median shuttle]

omg what if the zombie event is a tisso testrun (unlikely but who knows)

[hexed forge]

There is a lore correlation to the event. So maybe some tisso lore

[lethal moat]

I hope so #isle-lore-theories message

[median shuttle]

hope the event starts before halloween

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping we get a week or two with it

[hexed forge]

Same

[median shuttle]

same but if it starts two weeks before halloween it'll happen just as my uni lectures start ;_;

[hexed forge]

Damn

[median shuttle]

it's all to study paleontology in the longterm but first semester is mostly gonna be maths, chemistry and physics

[hexed forge]

Hope you succeed

[median shuttle]

me too... me too

[fast forge]

good luck with that, from what I understand the job market is pretty competitive

that is, there's way more potential employees than jobs

but it's kinda like that right now for a lot of science jobs (in the USA)

[median shuttle]

good thing I live in europe though I doubt it's gonna be way different here

but this is less lore talk more https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855535605178171422

[fast forge]

ehh you at least didn't experience the wave of government cuts that came with the previous US president

[hexed forge]

This is just the "Cool people" chat at this point

When theres no lore

[median shuttle]

true, could also be considered yeetthatmolotov lore

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

We try

I feel like the interior water formations on gateway likely weren’t used for transportation by AE

Just use the roads and monorail through GUTS, the island isn’t big enough and the rivers are too dangerous to ship thins using water

[acoustic osprey]

Yet

[acoustic osprey]

Material transportation? Yeah, a bit uneffective / not worth the while

But personnel?
It's possible
But it still would be slow

[unborn kestrel]

I’m a bit new to the lore side of the isle so forgive me, if you would happily educate me, what’s GUTS ?

[median shuttle]

GUTS is a shorthand for General Underground Transportation System. It's a network of Tunnels that connects different Facilities and Points of Interest on the Map

do check out the lore doc that's pinned in the channel

[lethal moat]

Molotov explained it well

[unborn kestrel]

I’ve just had a read through the doc, thank you both for replying!

[lethal moat]

There’s also some images associated with several of the things in that dock, so if you have questions, feel free to ask

[unborn kestrel]

I have seen the footage of Augustus, had to with my love of herras, and I saw the clip associated with the Rex the other day (presuming that due to the size and the fact it wasn’t physically stunted that was meant to be Shirley and not Dean), but the Lore around Gen-1 and Gen-2 humans is a bit hazey for me from reading, my main question is that there was obviously facilities on the map for evirma (I think I’m talking about gateway, though I relatively stick to the south and south west of the map) is there any lore reason that the facilities aren’t active on servers ?

[lethal moat]

My assumption is that it was “random generic rex”
We don’t really know the reason, but we refer to whatever reasonings that AE had for leaving as “The Incident(s)” even if it isn’t the most accurate of terms

[unborn kestrel]

Ahh okay, so AE left the facilities and then Gen-1 was kind of left behind and presumably thrived due to their adaptions and Gen-2 are effectively being sent back to the islands for a currently unknown/undefined reason ?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

I don’t believe gen 1 are on gateway, but that hasn’t been confirmed yet

But the rest of that matches up decently with what I think happened

[unborn kestrel]

Ah okay, so the Gen-1 are on the maps associated with the normal isle (not the evirma maps?)

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 aren’t in in any capacity yet, I’m assuming they’ll be on future maps, gen 2 are in in an early WIP state you can access on some unofficial servers

[unborn kestrel]

Ahhh okay, I think I get it, I did see some human carcasses laying around on a server I play on

[lethal moat]

Nvm, I misunderstood

[unborn kestrel]

No worries!

[lethal moat]

I thought you were talking about bodies as a part of the environment and was about to zoom and see if they existed on officials lol

[unborn kestrel]

lol, no I’ve not come across any yet, but I do make sure to clamber around any structures I come across when I play as a herra

Come to think of it, there was a watchtower I clambered into a while back that had some documents that looked like there was stuff on them on a desk

[lethal moat]

Probably just Lorem Ipsium filler text, but might be worth checking out

[unborn kestrel]

I’ll definitely have a look when I next get a chance to get on, if I can remember which watchtower it was

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

The kind of magazine I'd like to see in game

[hexed forge]

Interesting

[lethal moat]

“Genetic anomalies and you: A guide to maintaining workplace safety”

[fast forge]

maybe for AE internal documents, but unless the outside world is very different from ours I don't see that being a title of a publication

[lethal moat]

True

[fast forge]

Now if it was an SCP Foundation site I wouldn't be shocked at all

[knotty locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190479571762548807/1293174230812459119/video.mov?ex=670669da&is=6705185a&hm=f49bc640d62730724a95d0c46c0e3a3d528b40d60aecdc310ae0b04279723919&

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-very-sad-anyway-loki-sad-loki-gif-22079369

[blissful sun]

I mean SCP-1265 exists

[lethal moat]

I played my first horror game today, and learned I get really be tunnel vision, being chased through GUTS is gonna suck

[fast forge]

There is so much for a human to fear on the island

Herrera easily kills a human

Just this thing dropping out of the trees on you

[acoustic osprey]

Meanwhile current AE magazines are literally these

[fast forge]

computer stuff makes sense too

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

would definitely have to exist a mix of computer scientists and bio-engineers

[dapper cedar]

dinosaurs are actually robots because they can mutate while they are growing

not real dinosaurs?

and not genetic either

or maybe partially robot like a cyborg

[lethal moat]

Correct on not real dinosaurs, but you can see them rot and decay to bones in game

[dapper cedar]

ok

simulated O_O

[lethal moat]

Robo quetz is probably a cyborg though

[lethal moat]

Simulations can be real

[dapper cedar]

😠

[regal dirge]

Failed Jurassic Park concept or military application experiment gone wrong

[acoustic osprey]

it might be more so that, potentially due to (if EIPs), that the nature of 'mutations' is more so a mixed effect of the PROFILE growing in a certain field as the creature they are

[acoustic osprey]

i'll do you one better.

Saviours of the World

[lethal moat]

Nope

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hail-caesar-chariot-gif-14463630

[lethal moat]

Ooo, you’re new, we have lots of stuff to show you

[regal dirge]

Lmao. It's been my headcanon since Legacy but I never deep dove, just did dino sim brain brrr

[lethal moat]

Start with this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[acoustic osprey]

lol

fair, it can seem like a JP-esque situation
definitely

[regal dirge]

New to the discord but have had the game since 2019/2020, I never looked into the lore so just threw out my personal headcanon to contribute

[lethal moat]

Ooo, nice, the closest we’ve gotten to “why dinosaurs” is recreating the environment to counter/rebuild from climate change so AE can monopolize the environment

Or something vaguely similar to those parameters

And then there’s these guys

[regal dirge]

I had pondered the meaning behind the loading screen being designed the way it is and such and figured "AE" was basically a darker Newgen, glad there's more creativity behind it than my 15 minutes of thinking 😂

[acoustic osprey]

'you guys hurt me feelings 😢 '

-sends a bunch of Gen1s to their location

[lethal moat]

Apollo Engineering certainly does things

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah
legacy lore definitely had the JP resemblance

AE vs Phoenix International
like InGen vs BioSyn

in this case... AE was more so BioSyn
just smarter

[lethal moat]

Where’s my company Christmas card EC?

[acoustic osprey]

guh ! guh!!

only I GET one !!

[lethal moat]

I shall create Rumple: Certified Forklift Instructor

I kinda want to create a company Christmas card from AE now, sounds like a fun project over the holidays

[valid geyser]

Someone mentioned quetz a bit ago I seeee…

I wonder if robo quetz would help monitor strain activity as well, keep an eye on where a strain is

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/madagascar-alex-the-lion-hi-there-hello-there-hey-there-gif-23421002

it gives ^

[fast forge]

"first horror game"
meanwhile rumple is discord admin for a survival horror game

[lethal moat]

The isle isn’t quite into horror yet imo, slowly getting there, but not quite invested in that aspect yet

[fast forge]

you say that buuuut....

(ignore the goblin in the sidebar)

[strange shell]

I was about to ask about the goblin in the sidebar

[lethal moat]

Contrary to population belief, skeletons are neither spooky nor scary

[strange shell]

rude

[fast forge]

okay Imma be real
that's my goblin gf

or rather her server

[strange shell]

cool

[mortal hound]

don't worry I think you're spooky AND scary

[strange shell]

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-smile-he-man-gif-23320689

[kindred escarp]

Issac Desnutz

[kindred escarp]

i agree

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/red-dead-redemption-rdr2-arthur-morgan-confused-wtf-gif-16103884

[lethal moat]

I hope Gen 1 crafted structures (if they become a thing) are very crude, unlike the temple we saw years ago

[bold crater]

Very strong sense of "slap some duct tape on it"

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lawson-ryan-fletcher-tent-gif-19112458

[hexed forge]

UI... Soon

[strange shell]

Who made the temple then ?

[lethal moat]

I'm hoping the temple is just scrapped

[zealous void]

Is this official concept art? I found it on the isle wiki. It looks a lot like the hidden lava tube caves on gateway

[hexed forge]

Old concept art from Legacy times,

Official

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/not-anymore-shea-brennan-sam-elliott-1883-no-longer-gif-24225853

[zealous void]

damn

[fast forge]

like the cannibal structures in The Forest and Sons of the Forest

except maybe with fewer human body parts?

[lethal moat]

I have a very surface level understanding of that game

[fast forge]

maybe

[fast forge]

you don't really need to know the lore to learn about them

you can just google "Sons of the forest cannibal structures"

I'd post them here, but they can be pretty gruesome

[lethal moat]

Yes, stuff like that is what I’m thinking similar to

[fast forge]

if the Gen 1 structures include gore, I'd want them to include body parts from animals/people that you kill

stick a cerato head on a pole or something

[lethal moat]

The stinky warning

[lethal moat]

Be afraid

[fast forge]

or even certain structures or equipment require parts or bones from specific animals

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lokuś-luckuś-loki-aferka-gif-27107688

[fast forge]

"oh you wanna make the big structure? go find rex/sauropod long bones"

[lethal moat]

Steal a gas generator, it’s the perfect size and weight to keep up the largest structure

[ornate silo]

I can’t be the first to notice this

[fast forge]

That combined AE is an old thing, and in with both Tool and The Isle it's mostly just used because it looks cool

[lethal moat]

There is isle lore stuff on spotify tho

[fast forge]

Yes it has my favorite podcast

[acoustic osprey]

It's a latin diphthong used as a letter by some high Germanic languages

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-gif-16425875834066515654

[fast forge]

I never noticed that the highlands river that was supposed to run through the canyon emptied out on the north shore

Or does it? These pics seem to show it somewhere else?
#isle-phase-three message

[zenith frigate]

it looks like it follows the same path

[fast forge]

@hexed forge Do you know where this is at, specifically?

[fast forge]

no that's not right, the river hooks the wrong way

If you are facing downstream on the river, the river hooks to the right

[fast forge]

But in this image it hooks to the left

[zenith frigate]

that goes right

[fast forge]

it looks like that, but the camera is facing upstream, not downstream

or it goes uphill, but rivers don't usually do that

[zenith frigate]

in that picture its facing away from the cave

[fast forge]

the part of the river closest to the camera is also the lowest elevation

or at least that's how it looks to me

[fast forge]

okay if I full screen the image it clicks into place for me, I see it now

Devs said they lost the monorail after an update set them back on map progress? I wonder if this river was lost then too

[acoustic osprey]

Potentially but I don't remember it being there in the ST

[lethal moat]

I’m slowly leaning towards gateway being a test to see how the environment will maintain itself with the replicator’s assistance without human intervention, ie: Gateway was abandoned on purpose

[acoustic osprey]

question then

what kind of ('without') human intervention?

because we see humans intervene, to some extent, with getting the first TCAM on the Diabloceratops Video

with Apollo, then, getting the second TCAM as well later

so there seems to be some human intervention / presence
But, i suppose, a lack of human intervention in natural situations?

Maybe like
i.e. Omni pack hunts a bunch of Dibbles

and, looking at that video again, that might've been an observation they (AE) might've observed as well as an effect of changing/updating Diablo's dietary foods and (potentially in THIS video, specifically maybe) the genome of the current Dibbles

[hexed forge]

Highlands river that got removed

It's from the Dam that is at highlands lake.

Goes west and then north into the ocean

[median shuttle]

hope it's not scrapped and just a victim of the ue4 to ue5 move

[acoustic osprey]

likely was scrapped
same thing happened with the large rocky one near that area
that was also in Spiro

turned from a river to a flat bed of dirt

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-dream-let-me-sleep-leave-me-alone-sleepy-tired-gif-16004328

[hexed forge]

I would love to see them bring it back when they work on weather a bit more.

The lake overflows and causes the Dam to break. Which causes that river to form for a few minutes? Maybe half an hour.

And gen2s have to fix the dam if that happens

[median shuttle]

with how I understand the isles water to work I dont think flooding events will be possible... there is a ue5 real time flooding tool but it's not multiplayer compatible

there are several dried up riverbeds or channels that could have formed from floodwater or glacial melt but I think it's just implication than sth that ends up being a functional mechanic/event

[flat sail]

Lore theory, the world takes place in a game made up by the ai and it’s all fake

[acoustic osprey]

wait, are you saying it's all a simulation!!

but the AI aspect is, more or less, correct

depends on what you'd call "AI"
and what you call what made by such 'aspect'

[flat sail]

Wake up

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/car-garn47-gif-16425875834066515654

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lego-batman-sad-batman-batman-sad-lego-batman-sad-gif-23101702

[fast forge]

basically me

[ornate comet]

You think we may ever get this back? It would add a lot to highlands

[lethal moat]

I think it’s just a “we’ll leave for this amount of time and see how things are going when we get back”

[snow jasper]

Is it your birthday or something, the red cone

[lethal moat]

Halloween gnome

[snow jasper]

Ah well, as tradition when it comes to staff, regardless of date...

Happy Birthday Rumple!!!!! 🥳 🥳 🥳

[hexed forge]

Angled water doesn't necessarily do well in The Isle

Unless they find a way to fix it/improve it

[fast forge]

yeah they turned the NE Plains river into a series of cascades instead of having the river slope downhill, which admittedly looked weird

[hexed forge]

And also it was buggy when swimming through it, but

I guess we could dream

[fast forge]

I bet if they add the highlands river it will just be the same, a series of cascades

[hexed forge]

If they even add it

[fast forge]

I think they will. I walked through that riverbed last night and the ground and every thing looks so rough, they'll have to do something with it, even if it's not a river. But since they gotta do work on the area anyway, I hope it's the river

It would also provide more sources of fresh water along the northern coast, something I asked for in this post:
#general-feedback message

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-really-it-is-what-it-is-gif-17151262948504601369

[fast forge]

yeah, the river empties out into the ocean along the northern coast

[hexed forge]

And how would they merge the ocean water and the fresh water, put another random dam?

And besides, the riverbed is in a mini "Canyon" I dont think anything will be able to drink from it unless of course they change the terrain over there. But even then I dont think its needed

[fast forge]

the terrain is quite messed up in that area, they'll have to overhaul it anyway

and yeah blending a river with the ocean won't be easy, I expect we'll get another dam/levy

But it would be very close to a midpoint between west access pond and NW ridge pond, kinda right in that area without any fresh water

Like the terrain in that area needs work, it's very bad

Doubting this is like doubting the monorail tbh

They could always do something different, but I hope they keep the river, it seems cool

[hexed forge]

I dont think its needed unless its tied to a tide/flood/drought system, if they are even planning one.

Especially since that area is meant to be primarily human based, according to Filipe. Not much dino activity probably, no migrating herds that need that water. But it would be a cool addition I guess, an addition that wont be used much

[fast forge]

West Access is human bases

[hexed forge]

yes

[fast forge]

not the northern coast

it doesn't even have them on the concept map

and we've got patrols up there right now (at least one in nw ridge)

[hexed forge]

Would you want to place an MZ or patrol zone there?

[hexed forge]

Which already has a water source

[fast forge]

patrols yes

plenty of spots for patrols, and beautiful terrain

would suck if it's just a deadzone for players

I dunno I hope we get that river again

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

yes to what extent though?
Because we still see, in the Dibble video, that humans (to some extent are there)

Of course we don't know when that takes place
but we do know Gen2s have their way in 'current in-game timeline Gateway' (once they're properly released)

so what extent?
and, with that though, how far would that go though?

because we see them, still, interfering to some capacity before ON Gateway
so why give it all up?

[lethal moat]

If you're trying to create an environment, it needs to manage itself, you can watch from a distance, even save it if it starts to fail, but letting gateway go could be like watching a child ride a bike without training wheels for the first time

[acoustic osprey]

but the thing is though, we see AE interferring and changing bit by bit
especially if you look at oranges, which went through 50+ generations

why would they stop and let it all 'continue' then?

a parent doesn't just stop being a parent unless they HAVE to
by law or by the mortal inevitability of death

[lethal moat]

Maybe that was before being abandoned, or maybe there were shorter tests

[acoustic osprey]

if it was abandoned, I don't see it being purposefully left for the sole reason of did it because we want to now sit back and relax, and observe

if anything, that would be an excuse from AE - if any PR is needed

you don't just put a large amount of money on large hefty buildings and machinery to rot in a Jungle without a proper reason

and if anything, if it was on purpose -> then why leave a lot of technology there?

you don't have to worry, as much, about buildings

but tech is expensive but also re-usable
why not take it?

sure you could claim on insurance / tax deductions

[fast forge]

at the very least they'd want to maintain their tech and infrastructure, even if they've gone hands-off with the animals

[acoustic osprey]

but i don't imagine this relatively custom software is cheap

[lethal moat]

Lock it down as best you can, try to keep the animals out

[acoustic osprey]

which is why i feel like, if they have truly 'stepped back' (from Gateway at least), AE didn't truly want to leave

could be related to 'why Gen2s' on Gateway (in-game)

[fast forge]

We know it was a slow decline to some extent, so I wonder if they slowly lost this section of the island, that section of the island, and then another. Losing control piecemeal, instead of all at once like jurassic park

[acoustic osprey]

if they do such, we have not really seen a proper sign of such- yet.

[fast forge]

"Oh we don't really go into sector 2 any more, too much neuro activity"

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
it might not've been / or, a bit 50/50 on the aspect of 'slow decline' (for Gateway)
especially with corp war(s) and 'holy war' aspect
looking at TOMB

i believe this 'losing the island' might be a culmination of the chaos from 3rd party humans and the chaos of containing life itself

[lethal moat]

I agree with Tiny, could be one piece at a time, ending up "Alright just let it go, we kinda have to and it's too expensive currently to recapture."

[fast forge]

yeah, perhaps legal or financial troubles on top of containment issues and corporate subterfuge

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, i believe it to be a build up / large beautiful crescendo of chaos
slow at the beginning, then fully hectic at the end

[fast forge]

I'd imagine if there was a "final moment" where they abandoned the island then there's a decent chance it was unwanted

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[fast forge]

that is, AE was forced to do it, whether that be a government direction, corporate takeover, internal struggles, or a combination of factors

[acoustic osprey]

i believe they would, still, go out and try to reclaim whatever they could
up until the point it is literally impossible for whatever "X" reason(s)

[lethal moat]

Let the island age a little bit

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/amadeus-mozart-is-dead-wake-gif-23954461

[fast forge]

Heck, we don't even know if Gen 2 are just a part of worldwide human culture by the end

Perhaps the playable Gen 2 aren't even under the direction of AE. They could be, like, government employees, and just happen to have Gen 2 bodies (however unlikely that seems)

Or a rival company could have bought up all of AE's assets, and the playable Gen 2 are just auditors

[acoustic osprey]

but, to your original point Rumple

I do believe there is a related aspect to it that we see now and/or (more so towards this 2nd one) before on Gateway
being more so, though, pseudo-esque of what you said

there definitely being an element of them being not constantly interferring with things (upfrontly)

[acoustic osprey]

I do believe Gen2s are under AE - at least created by them
being named Gen2s

[fast forge]

I think they made them, but just because I own an iphone doesn't make me an Apple employee

If AE was really selling functional immortality then any number of people worldwide could have Gen 2 bodies

We just don't know the state of the world well enough to say

[acoustic osprey]

well
we know Gen1s are used by AE
Gen2s, though, being on Gateway
and, almost likely, made by AE
alongside them, in dossiers, just observing - being something we know AE does a lot

idk, feels like it quacks, walks and moves like a duck
it then seems it is likely AE-related / Apollo-related

[fast forge]

They are probably AE employees, I agree

I'm just saying we know so little, the reality could be something we'd never guess

Occam's Razor says they are AE employees

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't say we know so little, to the extent of bad general judgement
we have several little pockets of x, y and z

i say we can make some sort of judgement, to some extent
just to say their proper in-game playstyle? Yeah, definitely not

[lethal moat]

As a counterpoint to my own argument, it's a lot easier to monopolize the environment if your buyers are dependent on you for that environment, if they need the replicator, you make more money as long as you have that replicator

[fast forge]

I think "a few bespoke locations" are the tops of sea pillars or something like that

I want it to be this sea mount

[fast forge]

Uhhhh and this ties in to lore because

uhh

map reasons
because map = lore

yes yes that's a good excuse

[silent arch]

the current evrima map is a failed competitor to Jurassic world. they created the dinos with such streanth and resilliance that they broke out and took over the isle. (this is just a current head canon)

[acoustic osprey]

i believe some of the bespoke locations will be like the nesting grounds for Pteras on coastal rocks
maybe giant tree(s) for Herrera and Hypsi

[hexed forge]

Nesting ground in NW Ridge please

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/comedy-good-gif-18339262

[lethal moat]

Jurassic world would be very expensive to buy the rights to use

[median shuttle]

also given the timeline IF this were the case (which it is not) the island would be more a competetor to jurassic park than jurassic world

unless AE was using outdated 80-90s era equipment during the 2010s

[lethal moat]

We can see from the BIOS in some of the videos that the version was last updated in the 90s

[hexed forge]

I doubt they would keep their software outdated. So best guess is that at the time of the video it was the 90s

[lethal moat]

Or it’s retrieved from an island that was abandoned sometime in the 90s

[hexed forge]

It was external connection, I dont think they retrieved the computer

The user was likely from Olympus, connecting to the H4 database

[lethal moat]

Which may or may not be operational

[meager junco]

I remember something about the system and that they weren’t the most recent updated versions yet that we’ve seen

[hexed forge]

Also if we take the status of the H4 base at face value,

Then Gateway was abandoned/H4 was abandoned/that specific area was abandoned

One of those three

https://tenor.com/view/well-never-know-dr-larry-south-park-s5e13-we-will-never-understand-gif-21970654

[snow jasper]

Oh H4, how much I hate you

[hexed forge]

F5..

[acoustic osprey]

At least H4 actually makes sense...

[hexed forge]

But F5..

https://tenor.com/view/jake-crying-gif-15896901980625544793

[median shuttle]

alt f4

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

[hexed forge]

Did you mess up F5 with H4 lol?

[snow jasper]

what what what what what what what what

[hexed forge]

[snow jasper]

What am I missing

[patent ginkgo]

Are you finally being driven insane by how much better my screenshots are than yours

[snow jasper]

HOW DARE YOU, HOW BLOOMIN DARE YOU

[lethal moat]

There’s coordinates that don’t match up with the grid we have

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1091680421907009676/1290503143951437898/KentroOmegaShake.gif

[snow jasper]

Yeah, H4, no...?

[lethal moat]

H4 could end up being accurate in the future, we aren’t 100% sure, but F5 is way off from where it should be

[snow jasper]

I dont remember there being an F5

[lethal moat]

Dibble trail cam

[snow jasper]

ugh, im so behind

gonna recap everything tomorrow or sunday, this is getting worse by the day

[lethal moat]

I need to make an edit of that one SNL skit where the teacher messes up the students names, but it’s me getting lore stuff wrong

[patent ginkgo]

That’s me too tbh

I’m waiting on botany lore 😔

[snow jasper]

oof

https://tenor.com/view/our-time-has-passed-no-time-rdr-red-dead-redemption-dutch-vander-linde-gif-18455095

[acoustic osprey]

At least it matches up on land in the grid map
And from the exterior screenshots

But f5...

https://tenor.com/view/scares-me-i-fear-no-man-gif-21507033

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[hexed forge]

Maybe we get some information on the F5 grid with the UI, if there are cameras that we can open on the main menu

[silent arch]

true. thats why its just a head canon. in the actual lore it could be mezazoic planet. to avoid copy right

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Nah

It's closeish to modern day probably

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
not really probably

well, at least, there was a lot a lore in more contemporary times
at least, from the 80s to 90s

[lethal moat]

Closer than the mezazoic

I just made a joke with my friends that I thought might apply to EIPs

"You immortality has expired"

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bolt-movie-your-deal-just-expired-expired-deal-offer-expired-deal-is-over-gif-27552176

Dropped off in the middle of New York

[lethal moat]

Nah

"This is your last one, don't mess it up this time."

That's what I think

[hexed forge]

"Mess it up"

Arent you basically destined to die

All part of the testing process

[lethal moat]

You can learn a lot between two points

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[lethal moat]

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey

[hexed forge]

I still dont get how it relates to what I said lol

What Im saying is that once you sign the contract, you are going to follow AE's orders to test things. At the end of each test, you are destined to die. So how can you mess it up?

[lethal moat]

What if that's not correct, what if it's about the testing, not about the dying

[hexed forge]

So dont mess up your last testing task

I see now

[lethal moat]

We know the dinosaurs are all different, not sure how much say EIP has over the bodies, but the fact they all have potential to be different is very interesting, maybe AE is trying to replicate naturaliversity or they're looking for something

[acoustic osprey]

what happens after 1000?

freedom

[lethal moat]

Liberate your consciousness from the machine

[acoustic osprey]

would it be a reward to finally be mentally free? ... to finally die

[lethal moat]

Does it have to be a reward

[acoustic osprey]

i'd argue yes

[lethal moat]

Why

[acoustic osprey]

you've lived 1000 lives
been mentally, physically and consciously been stretched over thousands of lives

what better a reward than eternal freedom

[lethal moat]

Does the reward have to come after? And does immortality have to be the reward?

[acoustic osprey]

i'm talking about death
freedom from the taxation of living

to what point is it enough for someone?

[lethal moat]

I wouldn't call death a freedom

[acoustic osprey]

i'd call it the eternal freedom, honestly
especially in this situation/context

you've lived for many a years
many a bodies and many a brains
up to the point where ... what are you ?

would it be more freeing to finally have closure of you 'life'?

[lethal moat]

Life is an opportunity and a gift, a thousand even more so, death is too final

[acoustic osprey]

life can be a gift
but death can be as well

life brings torment, pain and suffering
unknowingness

and in this context
your life isn't just a life, it's many lives

[lethal moat]

I disagree

[acoustic osprey]

why?
there is, to an extent, nothing at death
If you want to be nihilistic with death

death is literally nothing. There is no pain, there is no thing ... truly nothing

want to be religious?
it can be a paradise or an eternal pause of nothing - looking at Elysium vs Asphodel - or eternal torture, if you want religious extreme

you 'live'
but you live without living