isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

Lol, can you inform us on lorecord

[snow jasper]

yeah lol

[fast forge]

automated systems?

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message This is about as close as we’ve gotten I believe

[bold crater]

Replicated BEANS

[lethal moat]

Boi you can’t say that while I’m at class

[gusty fern]

so they made dinosaurs because they had the chance with the research they made

and they reaserched to make humans better

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[gusty fern]

more survivable

[bold crater]

I recall something about "they're an unfortunate necessity" that Don said

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/now-whos-gonna-stop-me-bowser-the-super-mario-bros-movie-try-to-stop-me-now-im-unstoppable-gif-26913745

[bold crater]

Could be a bit wrong though

[gusty fern]

But then WHY are they trying to make humans better, whats the threat...

Now thats smth we have yet to discover

[lethal moat]

That’s right

[lethal moat]

Mhm

Well, climate change

But the specifics of why for anything are blurry

[gusty fern]

Whats main difference between old and new lore?

[lethal moat]

It’s less different and more adjacent because of the similarities

[bold crater]

Perhaps it's the climate change thing yeah. If it's true they're trying to reshape/recreate/alter the world rather than reverse climate change, perhaps these engineered humans are meant to be adapted to these new environments. AKA normal humans just don't have it for AE's vision.

[lethal moat]

I have a big theory I need to drop after class

[bold crater]

I eagerly await it 👍

[gusty fern]

Is gateway abandoned or still functioning?

because ik that in legacy isle V3 was abandoned

[lethal moat]

It is non-functional

[gusty fern]

Then what about the trail cameras working

[lethal moat]

Those videos are likely from before when it was abandoned

[gusty fern]

They could be, but the camera quality is high

[lethal moat]

Yep

[gusty fern]

But then again they are advanced in genetics, so they couldve been in camera quality too

[lethal moat]

The rules are made up (probably)👍

[gusty fern]

The isle lore is dark

which do u prefer, old or new lore

[lethal moat]

New

[gusty fern]

all the lore

What are they preparing for, making gen 2 humans for. What do they do with employees who betray the company. Why did they make dinosaurs? Why is gateway non-functioning anymore? Why do they have hypo and other strains?

[lethal moat]

I can answer one of those, Employees who give up confidential information are relocated to Tartarus and have their lineage displaced

The rest are questions we ask here all the time

[gusty fern]

so they just get relocated and demoted?

wait

their family?

[lethal moat]

I think it’s more EIPs, but maybe

[gusty fern]

And what happens in Tartarus

Thats a better question

[lethal moat]

I agree, that is a good question

We have guesses based off of legacy stuff that it’s a creation and containment facility for the most dangerous things on the island, but that’s not confirmed for Evrima yet

[gusty fern]

my theory for this is they experiment on them, try make gen 2 humans, or if fail then gen 1

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore discord? We have some archived info there that might help with some questions

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[gusty fern]

sure

[lethal moat]

I’ll DM you

[gusty fern]

now im wondering if the isle legacy lore is the same as the older versions (2016 ones)

[lethal moat]

I personally rather doubt this

Since we know gen 1 are created as their own beings, I doubt they’re derivative of real humans

[gusty fern]

fair point

[lethal moat]

Frank is his own distinguished gentleman

[gusty fern]

also whats this company

Because it looks a bit similar to Pheonix international logo but The Isle and Primal carnage arent linked

might be a rival company

to AE

[lethal moat]

If it’s old, they used to be linked

[gusty fern]

More visible ss

They dont look exactly the same but both have wings, a DNA looking shape going down (kinda) and a ball in the middle/top

Couldve been linked, doubt it now because htey dont look too similar

[lethal moat]

Mercury Beneficial is my guess, because it’s a Caduceus

[tacit loom]

what is the most lore significant dinosaur

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1219346714587304077/The_Isle_Lore.gif

This is a joke I don’t know

[tacit loom]

pickled dilo

[lethal moat]

Ben

[gusty fern]

Wouldnt really call it a dinosaur but the matriarch?

closest thing to a dinosaur ig

[tacit loom]

is that even cannon i thought it was just cool drawings?

[lethal moat]

The idea is canon, Tapwing’s current art is not

[lethal moat]

My favorite creature

[gusty fern]

Also whats the thousand life contract?

[lethal moat]

Excellent question

We don’t really know, we bet it has something to do with EIPs because of the name

Also, @bold crater class is over, I’ll type it out now

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

[lethal moat]

So my new theory is that since we guessed about consciousness transfer between species, AE is trying to manufacture a new “ideal body” for the human race, one that is more rigorous and capable while maintaining the intelligence and knowledge of the human species

Tldr: The next step in human evolution is out the back of a cargo plane (maybe with a parachute)

[lethal moat]

I may or may not be talking about gen 2s or something more extreme like the matriarch

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/walt-walnterwite-walter-stare-staring-breaking-bad-gif-8185929955267525825

Are you talking about gen2s or gen1s

That last part felt like you were referencing gen1s

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/toss-coin-flip-gif-26540307

Literally any creature on the island

[hexed forge]

Eh

[lethal moat]

Your body becomes a tool for your consciousness to use

Become the swiss army knife

[hexed forge]

Not sure about that

[gusty fern]

Man

[lethal moat]

Any flaws I don’t see?

[hexed forge]

I liked the theory up until the "any creature on the island part".

Just doesn't seem.. right.

[lethal moat]

If your body is as replaceable as your clothes (if they can get it to work) I don’t see an issue

[gusty fern]

do u think V3 is still related to lore or not?

[hexed forge]

No

[gusty fern]

(the V3 map*)

Maybe theres another island related to new isle lore

[lethal moat]

The Reserve

[hexed forge]

I don't think so

[hexed forge]

Possibly also Site 12

possibly

[gusty fern]

so its an island that they hunt the experiments/dinosaurs on with them being released in natural habitat

[lethal moat]

Something like that

[hexed forge]

Or it's a public accessible island

Or only for the rich that sign an NDA of some sorts. (If dinosaurs aren't public knowledge)

AE gotta make moneh somehow

[fast forge]

Matriarch seems much more like a runaway experiment, not intentional

A chimeric organism like the tisso, but one that can add new types of cells/DNA, where tisso may just be stuck with whatever it's got

[lethal moat]

Probably, just seems like it’s leaning into the sort of “customizable body” idea that I’m going for with that theory

[fast forge]

I think that's Gen 1, but organic adaptation rather than a planned design

[lethal moat]

Maybe a bit of both

[fast forge]

I just realized, if this is true then Gen 1 would make for a very successful invasive species in human habitats

[lethal moat]

That’s what I’ve been thinking, so Gen 1 infrastructure would have to be built specifically to prevent that

Stuff like moats and spikes to prevent them from climbing

[fast forge]

That would be a terror, if they got out on mainland and started showing up in the city or suburbs

[lethal moat]

The only good news in that situation would be they don’t naturally reproduce

So once you clear them out, you know you got them all

[tacit loom]

im reading through the lore doc, what is an EIP?

[lethal moat]

Embryo Intelligence Profile, the transfer of consciousness into another body, typically we think of it as human consciousness into dinosaur bodies

[fast forge]

do we know they can't reproduce?

[tacit loom]

so when we are playing the game we are acuall human minds in dinosaurs?

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/life-uh-finds-a-way-it-be-that-way-it-will-work-itself-out-gif-16077053

[lethal moat]

They know where they come from is the replicator, so I assume that’s where they all come from

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-damn-damn-it-annoyed-pissed-off-gif-16637041

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[muted reef]

Rump you thinkin what I'm thinkin

[fast forge]

Could be like some eusocial insects where the queen (replicator) uses pheromones (or whatever) to suppress the reproductive potential of other members of the hive, but without the queen around they grow into new king's and queens

(If I'm remembering the science on that correctly)

[lethal moat]

Probably not

[muted reef]

Reel em in

[lethal moat]

If they ask more questions, sure

[fast forge]

Yes, I was correct

[lethal moat]

Much closer to naked mole rats or wasps, ants and bees are raised to be physiologically different by being given royal jelly

[fast forge]

Yes yes it was just an example

[lethal moat]

I rather doubt that though, having a gen 1 incident go to a gen 1 infestation would be disasterous, best to keep them as much under your thumb as possible

[fast forge]

It's just fun conjecture

[lethal moat]

It's interesting for sure, if an exponeentially increasing number of gen 1 flooded a metropolitan area

[fast forge]

I wonder if Gen 1 are hypercarnivores, or if they are more omnivorous like humans

[lethal moat]

That might vary on the type of gen 1 tbh

[young viper]

Carnivore / omnivore id say

I can't base everything on teeth, but it's a guess

since we have nothing about them

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

the teeth would be your best bet, yes

[lethal moat]

If they operate in groups, they might have different roles, V2 being the alarm if anything moves nearby, and V1 being the hunter/killer after alerted

[fast forge]

From the teeth they are probably more carnivorous than humans, but still omnivorous, like bears

[young viper]

V2 probably has super sharp senses and probably has echolocation I imagine

[hallow rover]

second one kinda looks like the cave cannibal from Sons of the forest, what if from a lore standpoint u find the eyeless ones in darker places so they dont need eyes

[low scarab]

Why just an overused theme?

[lethal moat]

It's an unneccisary difficulty

[low scarab]

?

[young viper]

If only Dondi were here to give us a lesson about Gen1 and its variants

[lethal moat]

Why deal with something that can think when it can just do what you tell it to do

[lethal moat]

If you were in lorecord you could see an archive of the last times he's done this

[hexed forge]

True

[young viper]

oh yeah im just waiting for the new PC so i can focus more on The isle/The isle lore

[fast forge]

GUTS

[lethal moat]

I could still send you an invite

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/quiet-place-monster-alien-gif-22491042

[hallow rover]

yea exactly, have the eyeless ones in places with no natural light and the ones with eyes on the surface

[low scarab]

Ok I can see that from ae’s pov at least

Dondi has been talking about how gen 1s are being put to use kind of but I thought they were more of a failed experiment and the replicator just kind of made them against the will of ae

[lethal moat]

I stil think it's both

[hallow rover]

Why not use Gen 1 as a kind of natural guard around certain places, for instance you get this AE facility thats surrounded by forest that gen 1 live in and its harder for unwanted guests to get to the facility because they have to pass through the gen 1 infested woods first

[hexed forge]

Gen1 might be too hard to control, I really doubt they are used as proper guarding tools.

[lethal moat]

I think they're good guard tools because they're hard to control

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bidonvahue-biden-biden-trump-debate-biden-stare-biden-debate-stare-gif-5235713898420237673

[lethal moat]

Just don't go outside without PPE

[hallow rover]

Yea so long as they willingfully stay in a place that AE wants them to stay in they dont need to control them alot

[hexed forge]

What if something happens that needs AE to enter the Gen 1 "guard" area.

Seems like its just a way for AE to stab themselves in the future.

[low scarab]

Retaliatory product? 🤔

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Airdrop on hostile territory!!

[lethal moat]

I bet someone else started manufacturing altered humans so AE decided they were going to do it better

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/parachute-slide-into-dms-julien-delpech-bouloc-bouloc-skydive-gif-25555087

[young viper]

do we have any concept art or just art with a gen1?

[lethal moat]

Just these

[low scarab]

Neermmm incoming mutant humans

Think they use cages for them similar to the dinosaurs

[low scarab]

I’d love to see the in game model

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[young viper]

will it be playable or just lore content?

[lethal moat]

Playable, 3rd person pov

[hexed forge]

Playable.. it's on the character selection screen!!

[young viper]

wdym?

[low scarab]

Gen 1 is those guys it’s on the spawn menu

[young viper]

oh ill take a look

[hexed forge]

On the right side

[young viper]

oh this

[low scarab]

Yep

[hexed forge]

I wonder if the character selection screen would be reworked with the UI update too

[lethal moat]

I hope so

[hexed forge]

A lot of people sadly don't like the new UI style. Which makes me worried. But oh well., I like it.

[hallow rover]

i miss the clickity clack keyboard sounds when u type from legacy

[hexed forge]

It might come back

Probably will

[hallow rover]

hopefully

[gusty fern]

what does it look like?

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1273024785806266480/SimpleEnoughMayhaps.mp4?ex=66c45c78&is=66c30af8&hm=59f2c459cf42802cbf9c423c7b963ef135ae01565db4f67ba5a3884dd9a90de9&

[gusty fern]

aw man

[strange shell]

feels kinda cheap

[gusty fern]

I literally had the exact same idea

[fast forge]

I like it

[lethal moat]

Probably not finished yet

[hexed forge]

I don't like this version.

[hexed forge]

But I like this

[young viper]

will this be the new one?? that looks amazing

[gusty fern]

it looks... fine i guess

Suits better with lore

[hexed forge]

Probably yes

[gusty fern]

cuz u feel like ur actually hacking into the game/AE systems

[young viper]

Dondi showed that?

[lethal moat]

Remember this as well #isle-discussion message

[hexed forge]

Yes

[young viper]

woah would love that

[gusty fern]

so u can basically look at cameras around the map?

see what the cams see

[lethal moat]

That's the idea

[young viper]

Without showing the names of the servers this idea would be brilliant

[hexed forge]

Mhm, just the area and the camera name.

[young viper]

And very immersive

[hexed forge]

TCAM GW_H5

MCAM GW_F9

Etc

[gusty fern]

Yeah

[young viper]

and you could just skip the cameras maybe? like ->>

but just a automatic is good too

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[hallow rover]

I hope when gen 2 are properly in they can set up trail cameras and do a similar thing

[hexed forge]

I hope so too

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story3-monkey-gif-25030033

[bold crater]

I as well!

I want a full on Phasmo van (or a better example, that truck from JP2) just loaded with tech and cameras and whatnot

[lethal moat]

That's not it

I'd like something like this:

[hallow rover]

if they added giant tech trucks to the game i wouldnt be able to resist the urge to runover every animal i see with it like a tank

[low scarab]

I would be extremely surprised if it wasn’t

[bold crater]

Spawn screen is beyond ancient at this point.

[low scarab]

It’s too flat although I get it’s js a concept pretty much

[hexed forge]

I want that style to be the UI

[bold crater]

I can understand the flatness honestly. If EVERY menu was literally just the black and blue screens, it could feel monotonous.
But hopefully it's a mix of actual systems and the new screens. Like how the character screen looks like it's on a monitor on the edges

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[fast forge]

Maybe some faux camera footage, similar to what we have now

[hallow rover]

i wonder if gen 2 will be able to repair and use the human bases/outposts that are currently ingame if they are able to repair vehicles

[lethal moat]

Hope so

[young viper]

I want backpacks of different weight capacities

[muted reef]

LETS GO

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

I hope

[muted reef]

AKLSDJFJKLASDFK HJLALSKJ HFL HJKAS HJKLFKHJ THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED

[hexed forge]

Shush.

https://tenor.com/view/edna-mode-newspaper-incredibles-gif-13839758

[muted reef]

Sorry...is that official?

[hexed forge]

Yes

From Don

It's only a concept

[muted reef]

MY GODDAMN PRAYERS ARE ANSWERED I DONT HAVE TO SPAM IT IN FEEDBACK ANYMORE

https://tenor.com/view/gambit-channing-tatum-deadpool-and-wolverine-you-know-how-long-i've-been-waiting-for-this-i'm-about-to-make-a-name-for-myself-here-gif-14409219265758870864

[lethal moat]

This has been in lorecord for days already

[muted reef]

Tamim must've cursed me or something

[hexed forge]

Gif perms

[hallow rover]

slightly off topic but could be make a pingable role in lorecord for when theres a dondi stream, i always seem to miss them

[bold crater]

Oh how I yearn for an orange/amber color option if this becomes true.

[muted reef]

Barf

[lethal moat]

Lorecord announcments

[bold crater]

ORANGE IS COOL YOU HUSH YOU HYPSILOPHODON 🫵

[low scarab]

Looks sick but no

[muted reef]

I cant re-apeal yet because I got unmuted and I gotta wait

[hexed forge]

There's an announcements role

[bold crater]

[hexed forge]

Use it for Don streams perhaps

[lethal moat]

Announce the don stream

[hexed forge]

Yes

[muted reef]

The only time i'd ever use an alternate color for the UI is legacy style green

[low scarab]

I always rely on lorecord for stream pings

[muted reef]

Now I need to see what the dinosaur UI looks like

[bold crater]

And the character screen

[hexed forge]

We don't know if that was changed yet

[hallow rover]

thats funny, i do have the announcements role but ive never seen a stream announcement with a 1 pop up there unless ive got the wrong role

[muted reef]

That is what I meant, UI in the bottom right, escape menu, and the profiles

Ooh the skin creator

[lethal moat]

I usually don't catch it until halfway through

[hallow rover]

ah fair enough, i usually miss the full thing haha

[muted reef]

Mr Dondi if you see this message I praise you for the new UI

[bold crater]

I'd love if we could actually interact with some computers in-game

[muted reef]

Figuring out lore

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[muted reef]

Figuring out the horrors

[hexed forge]

If you can get the power going and figure out the access password

[muted reef]

Hey maybe they could make a computer that is gonna be powered 24/7 and has egg menu on it so you can see if you wanna die or not

[bold crater]

All the more reason to scavenge around and LOOT

[hexed forge]

Search the papers in the base for the password

[bold crater]

Keycards even

[hexed forge]

Yep

[hallow rover]

password should be DondiDollar or DinoBux

[bold crater]

I hope we can get a PA system in a base lmao

Will people mess with it? Yeah....
Will it be funny? Sometimes yeah
Would it be cool regardless? Hell yeah.

[hallow rover]

i think it would be a good idea, would be like SCP SLs intercom system, never gets old hearing someone screaming for the life down the intercom

[bold crater]

That example was what I was thinking of heehee

[hexed forge]

Currently there is no sign of a PA system in the bases. But maybe in the future vis can model some stuff

[bold crater]

Persnaps
I mean they mentioned base alarms before, so clearly too much noise isn't a restriction

You know people would play music over it.

[hexed forge]

Did they?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-rave-dancing-dancing-crab-gif-16543314

[bold crater]

A while back yeah

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-suffering-death-star-wars-gif-25111888

[hexed forge]

That's not a good thing

Well, it can be used badly.

[bold crater]

For more serious uses however, I can see it being handy for larger bases. I imagine those would require a large amount of constant maintenance, so you're gonna have a lotta people moving around. PA can be handy aside from radios or if radios cannot work for some reason.

But yeah that stuff always has downsides sadly.

Designate someone as a base administrator in charge of keeping everything in ship-shape

[hallow rover]

walking around some dark and spooky abandoned facility and then suddenly some starts blasting Russian Hardbase down the PA system

[bold crater]

But we know so little about base maintenance so it's hard to theorize

[hexed forge]

Lol

[hexed forge]

Just assume and hope

Let the mind shoot ideas.

[bold crater]

Pew pew

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

I always imagined it similar to things like Barotrauma where you do routine checks on systems that degrade over time.

Check generators, manage their fuel, look at power flow, turn off unnecessary equipment, and hopefully just simple cleaning for downtime.

[low scarab]

Raaaahhh barotrauma mentioned

[bold crater]

Need ourselves an Omniraptor wrestler

[low scarab]

Barotrauma should definitely be looked at for inspiration they do a great job with balancing and keeping each crew member occupied

[lethal moat]

I may have just learned why my submarine keeps sinking

[bold crater]

They removed it sadly (though I can see why), but they used to have cleaning walls as an activity. I'd love for simple stuff like that. Clean floors, tend to overgrowth, repair walls, etc.

[bold crater]

Tsk tsk!

[hallow rover]

Now that i think about it ill prob write some suggestion thing tomorrow regarding an intercom/PA system

[bold crater]

Imagine the terror of trying to electrify the fence during an attack, but woops
silly Craig didn't fix the power line to the fence!
silly Craig is now Rugops chow!

[lethal moat]

Bum Bum Buuuuuum

[bold crater]

There's also lots of potential for some bases having unique perks. Electric fences, spotlights, enabling access to unique areas, clean water, food, etc.

I always wanted a hydroponics or greenhouse area but uh oh, the water's off. Gotta go down into da sewer system

[hallow rover]

Im prolly looking forward to gen 2 gameplay the most from both the perspective of the human and the dinosaur just because of the funny interactions it can create

[bold crater]

Definitely

It can make simple things feel amazing

[muted reef]

When the gen 1 concept art came out I immediately switched my focus from dino to human

[bold crater]

Like a Pteranodon is all frail and whatnot, but HEY! It can eat raw meat and F L Y.
Dinky lil human needs their special CLEAN food.

[hallow rover]

and their running speed is the same as a rexes walking speed haha

[muted reef]

I hope gen 2 can just kick ptera straight in the neck and that'll damage it severely lmao

[muted reef]

See the thing is they're great at turning and are gonna have melee weapons

[bold crater]

They prolly already can kick one 😛

[hallow rover]

Cant wait to see John the gen 2 running at a full grown rex with a hunting knife

[muted reef]

And then juke out it's alt bite and jam it up it's mouth

[hallow rover]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExZjBnOXUyZjJmZmt1cXhpZXlnZHVqaDh0ZzM0Y3V5b2p6cWFzd2VqdSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/7ca72fbwhTCm5DSzH0/giphy-downsized-large.gif

[fossil nebula]

Im willing to bet a human will be able to grab a ptera and take it somewhere depending on weight, maybe if like ptera if half weight of the human

[muted reef]

How much does ptera weigh?

[fossil nebula]

at fg idk

[muted reef]

Gen 2 is 85

[fossil nebula]

ye

[muted reef]

Imagine an omni running at you, and then you juke it out, rub some dirt in it's eye, stab it's snout and then run away to the nearest building lmao

[sonic rampart]

45 i think

[hallow rover]

i think anything omni sized will have no trouble killing a human if the area its in is wooded enough

[hexed forge]

45

[fossil nebula]

stun sticks would be so cool, like ones in JP and other films, they exist irl for mostly for cattle, called cattle prods

[muted reef]

So a gen two could definitely pounce and kill a ptera

[fossil nebula]

it could stun dinos like omni for a bit to run away or hold off till your buddy reloads the pistol lol

[young viper]

and hypsi

Imagine being a gen2 and having a chicken coop with hypsis

[bold crater]

They make me eggs

[lethal moat]

Is this the expectation for GUTS or is it an outlier? I feel like this would be pretty normal for the overall structure, maybe those little mases aren't common tho

[zenith frigate]

are GUTS and the monorail seperate things

because dondi said the tracks would be in disrepair

[hexed forge]

Monorail goes through GUTS

[zenith frigate]

so some GUTS tunnels have monorails and some are just roads?

[zenith frigate]

this feels like at least the basic design that most GUTS tunnels will have

[lucid fossil]

server is not showing up to play?

what to do?

[lethal moat]

Wrong channel to ask, but you’ll want the Evrima beta branch

To swap branches, go to steam, right click the game in your library, click properties, click betas, and swap to the branch you like

[hexed forge]

Pretty much

[lucid fossil]

thanks

[gusty fern]

What do U think of the new Main menu UI

[hexed forge]

It's nice

[gusty fern]

I like it

But that's why I don't want it to be added

Cuz I don't wanna be copying

[lethal moat]

I like it, think it needs some work, but it's nice to have consistancy between trailers and game

[gusty fern]

It's defo more uh

Into the lore yk

[lethal moat]

But yeah, AE making the next iteration of human evolution doesn’t seem out of place to me at all

[low scarab]

you play barotrauma?

[lethal moat]

On occasion

[low scarab]

sweet we should hop on I know a couple people from kingfisher's discord who play

[lethal moat]

We could grab Shiny as well

[low scarab]

but either way human wise it is a solid reference to how humans should feel having different tasks at different bases I like the idea of getting an abandoned base up and running again like the radio towers etc

although I would also want to be able to go solo as a human

[low scarab]

he has it too? fire

[lethal moat]

You'll definitely have to guage how much you can operate by yourself, maybe grab a UTV with a power generator on the back and get work done that way

[low scarab]

oh yea for sure going solo shouldnt be encouraged but I at least want to efficiently survive albeit challenging

[hexed forge]

Rumple changed colors..

No longer RumpleStinkSkin?

@lethal moat congrats

[lethal moat]

Portable vehicle squad is one of my goals if vehicles are usable

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/vceezy-vcente-v2-hedera-hbar-gif-26088627

[median shuttle]

Listening to the podcast while taking pictures of the nightsky

[lethal moat]

Nice!

[median shuttle]

Really psyched abt the little shoutout

[low scarab]

promoted to light blue nametag

hes got the elite isle discord name color

[low scarab]

i wonder if vehicles will have "trample" damage

aka can i flatten a troodon with my atv

[lethal moat]

As much as I love troodon, I hope so

[ornate comet]

Troodon looking down the barrel of a shotgun moments before being atomized

[median shuttle]

I think vehicles will have some sort of damage by running over, I'm curious if it's gonna be calculated by weight

[lethal moat]

Ramp into the rex face 🤞

[median shuttle]

Yall think the lower bridgehead by the big riverdelta bridge will be finished or might it be a ramp to try and jump the river

[lethal moat]

Maybe some sort of Aquatic fencing under the bridge?

[hexed forge]

I think they will add a broken bridge there

Or at least pieces of the bridge brought down river that got stuck on the shore.

[muted reef]

It's perfect but petits peeps hate it

[muted reef]

I hope they all connect

[acoustic osprey]

It'll likely be connected to whatever trampling system they add (if they're still doing it)

[low scarab]

That was my thought earlier I’m curious how it will work out with the bikes as well

All of course if they actually add them

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/odoyle-rules-karen-melissa-villasenor-hubie-halloween-bike-chase-gif-18745797

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/odoyle-rules-karen-melissa-villasenor-hubie-halloween-bike-chase-gif-18745797

[muted reef]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

Big link

[muted reef]

Yay

[knotty locust]

alright new discussion chat

does echidna eat anything

or does it like, absorb radiation

[acoustic osprey]

how do you feed something that cannot eat from it's mouth

[knotty locust]

through absorption into the skin

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/guardians-of-the-galaxy-groot-tiny-dance-grow-gif-5671631

I doubt Echidna has to go through some sort of percutaneous endoscopic gastrostomy

[knotty locust]

i wouldnt be surprised if echidna has a similar mouth structure to the eyeless, in how at first glance they dont have a mouth until the mouth opens up

[muted reef]

I mean we do know...all of that is old as hell

[acoustic osprey]

unless whatever eye hole it has in the middle of it's head
is it's mouth

[muted reef]

Besides the gen 1's we have are based off of the 2 year old eyeless concepts, so if we get THOSE then we can guess a bit what the echidna would look like

[knotty locust]

opens sideways?

hell yeag

[acoustic osprey]

could see that happening

[muted reef]

I honestly think they ripped heavy inspiration from the recent eyeless concept art for the gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

"recent"

[muted reef]

I mean it's more recent than legacy eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

we haven't had eyeless concept art since legacy

[muted reef]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

then what do you mean by this lol

[muted reef]

I mean yes it's more recent than legacy (I tink)

[acoustic osprey]

what is...

[muted reef]

So yeah it's not but I hope they inspire the eyeless and echidna from it

[neon gorge]

maybe its like a fungus

[gusty fern]

So i dont know if this is outdated or not but its evrima so... idk, but at 3:33 in this video it says "Carnage comes home" and right after that we hear a roar. The roar sounds like a modified version to the Primal carnage rex roar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXwRqaRG2Zo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljtbV6rmjLI

im sure the 2 games arent connected, but theres been too many easter eggs and now im wondering if somehow they are?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

Isle and PC(E) were briefly connected for few years

that whole end section being a reference to the fact

however
a few years back

we found out Isle and PC lore were not to be

[gusty fern]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

South Dome got removed via the swamp expansions

swamp cliff side is now real close to Perm

which is interesting

[neon gorge]

maybe south dome will be moved to south of the SW coastal sanctuary

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

but it being removed is a big deviation from the old concept art we had
which was the biggest "this is still like this"

[neon gorge]

West access had something in the forest... new base perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

you referring to the red light?

[neon gorge]

yes. i know there is a existing base to the east of the lake, but there was on to the west

[acoustic osprey]

that was D10/C14 then

that was one of the northern bases

[neon gorge]

nice

[acoustic osprey]

can't remember if there's a proper red light there though atm

also Perm was referred to as the Atrium as well
just as a note for people reading when they wake up

[acoustic osprey]

also random spawning is a thing
will make getting to the docks/future lore hunts fun

[lethal moat]

So with the new name for Perimeter is Atrium, and what I thought of immediately was Atrium C, which was destroyed in Operation Inferno in legacy, I doubt that specifically returns exactly the same, but it’s neat

[hexed forge]

What

Perimeters new name is Atrium?

[lethal moat]

Apparently, Isaac said it was from stream, but I missed that part

[valid geyser]

Interesting

[hexed forge]

That's very interesting

If this is similar to legacy,

Then there are 3 Atriums

Atrium A, B, C iirc.

[lethal moat]

And now there's three domes

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-gif-3186320581080702344

Atriums could just be the name of the big domes tho, not the smaller ones.

And in legacy they weren't all on the same island I think.

[lethal moat]

Mhm

We'll see

[hexed forge]

Time shall tell

[lethal moat]

Wonder if gen 1 will be able to climb metal

[hexed forge]

Probably not

Well

Maybe they can

[hexed forge]

There's the habitation facility thing at the new docks. We thought there wouldn't be one at the new docks right?

Gen2 has some loud footsteps..

Probably a bug, I hope

Also I'm not talking to myself

[valid geyser]

It’s so loud but it makes getting friends to hunt you down so much fun

[hexed forge]

Commentating while watching the new Don stream

[valid geyser]

Literally got a group of friends of maybe 7, all of us human, everytime one of us died they turned to a dinosaur to help hunt down humans

[hexed forge]

Haha

[valid geyser]

Night was terrifying.

[hexed forge]

I rewatched a summary, I didn't see Dondi calling perimeter an Atrium

Maybe it was cut out

[fast forge]

I mean, it is an atrium

[hexed forge]

The official name tho. Might be Atrium something

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=66c59ac1&is=66c44941&hm=855cf2b9a42033b3584cea370e51250f5bfd6ad576f3942efb2a0f72fe203ab0&

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

[lethal moat]

"Viewing platform" is still a pretty strong indication the area is used for some sort of containment

[hexed forge]

Mhm

When shall we get a hint on what the location of that is

[lethal moat]

I bet we see either it specifically or something similar and have to find it ourselves rather than just confirming where it is, which is more fun imo

[hexed forge]

Mmm true

[hallow rover]

Did he not hint to the perimeter being an enclosed redwood a while back?

[lethal moat]

He implied that yeah

[valid geyser]

I did it, I found it.
I’ll clip it later for you but he calls it “The Atrium” if that helps

[hexed forge]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

He does still refer to the smaller domes as domes

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

Time to adjust the lore doc?

Maybe add "Perimeter/Atrium

If we aren't sure

[acoustic osprey]

Did yesterday

[hexed forge]

Yay

[low scarab]

which one of the smaller domes got booted?

[hexed forge]

South Dome

[low scarab]

rip

[hexed forge]

I have a gut feeling that it's going to come back.

[low scarab]

why?

[hexed forge]

The old gateway concept

[low scarab]

I hope they explore most of what this map included

it looks like a very filled and interesting map

not that gateway is bad or anything its just unfinishd

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

I say the opposite

it's the biggest deviation from the original concept

last of the remains from long ago

[hexed forge]

[muted reef]

Was that meant to be tundra or smth else in the bottomn right

[acoustic osprey]

untextured area

[hexed forge]

^ that

Either that or it's a big beach lol

[low scarab]

Guts??

[muted reef]

Honestly...I think I would've liked the one we get in the spawn menu

[low scarab]

I hope guts isnt too far off seriously im ready to travel the tunnels

[hexed forge]

NO

[hexed forge]

Same

[hexed forge]

Elaborate

[muted reef]

It looks far more mountainy than the one we have now which would make the map quite a bit smaller...idk why I like it more I shouldn't

It could be bugged textures though

[hexed forge]

Dislike it

[muted reef]

I feel like reserving some of that playable area would work nicely with the current server pops but when they get bigger I definitely am gonna pick this one

[low scarab]

that old map was exciting although I think the human bases everywhere monorails and trails adds a lot to the map feeling less empty and just jungle yk

[muted reef]

Nah not really that one I mean the like 2 year old leaks

[muted reef]

I just realized they fixed the spawn menu to the one we have now and it was only that in the gateway ht

[hexed forge]

Mmmmok

[low scarab]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1275593244667019347/Old_Map.webp?ex=66c67448&is=66c522c8&hm=17567a68a03953eed7083cbeb13f1fe2544da8af38cedf3d5f0538f8e7265085&
this is what im talking abt

[muted reef]

O ok but I'm also talking about another another version

[low scarab]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

which

[muted reef]

Look up gateway the isle and it looks extremely brown

[acoustic osprey]

oh the old spawn menu one?

[muted reef]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

yeah that's from the Xmas ST

not really a leak
but yes

[muted reef]

I am curious about how tisso's healing is gonna work. Is it gonna be vulnerably able to die or is it gonna be nigh impossible to keep an injury on it other than to the head

[lethal moat]

I feel like it might be a tortured immortality until burned/dissolved in it's entirety

[muted reef]

Like logan

[lethal moat]

Never watched any of the Wolverine movies, so maybe

[muted reef]

I mean the only way to kill him is really by disolving all of him

Or suppress the healing factor which is how he died

[fast forge]

healing factor suppressed and then covered in adamantium, right?

and then the events of Krakoa...

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[muted reef]

Combination was heavily lethal to him yes

||By the end of the movie he was literally a dude with sharp claws which is why he ended up dying from the tree ||

[muted reef]

The question is how does the adamantium poision him if it can't rust or chip

[acoustic osprey]

Every man has his kryptonite

[muted reef]

"So...this is what it feels like..."

[lethal moat]

He needs his 3 am cheese or he starves

[hexed forge]

Lots of 3 AM cheese

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-robert-downey-jr-gif-15118751

[muted reef]

Just like I need to play as the tissoplastic Rugops

[hexed forge]

I need the Docks..

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ice-water-i-dont-need-it-gif-14272849

[lethal moat]

I’m going to look around other spots, docks are are going to be very populated, probably wander around as a dryo a bit

[hexed forge]

Checking Swamps might be a good idea, or maybe West access.

Heard that people saw a red light on the west side of the island in the stream, might be wrong.

[lethal moat]

Search all of it

[muted reef]

You think theres a hidden object?

[lethal moat]

Or just stuff that hasn't been mentioned yet

[hexed forge]

Nah

[muted reef]

Then tf you lookin around for

[hexed forge]

Also in one of the stream summaries,

When Don walks under the crate.. am I the only one that hears a weird sound?

[hexed forge]

Because we can and we should

[muted reef]

Jesus who cranked the shirley brightness to zero

[hexed forge]

Can you check the speed mutation % value rq

[tiny cypress]

maybe the dinos were made as a test to see if Apollo Engineering was capable of de-extinct-alizing animals

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[tiny cypress]

the reason i think that is because they were very obviously not made for food, and dinosaurs arent exactly militarily-inclined

why else would a botanical engineering company need to make BIG LIZARD

[lethal moat]

Practice maybe

I imagine making a living being probably isn’t an exact science, and there’s some learning to be done on the way

I have cleansed my Replicator mix and am now in need of more music so spotify doesn’t put in it’s own music

This game has too much variety for spotify to make up it’s mind lol

[acoustic osprey]

i did the same for Gateway
did the same for TUNNELS!!!

(I had some free time)

[lethal moat]

[median shuttle]

I must say hackers theory that was shared on the podcast feels likely - the one about apollo trying to crack immortality and the replicator just going okay to develop human immortality I need to work on humans

[acoustic osprey]

Still feels a bit missing with Gen1s though

Or at least
Unexplained atm

[median shuttle]

For sure the theory might also only hold up cause our currently limited understanding of so many things

[ionic sable]

I viewed the Gen 1s as the first attempt to create a body to insert humanity into through the EIP system, or rather, "artificially evolving" humanity and using Gen 1 as the first step.

Then the Replicator just used the Gen 1s to fulfill it's actions.

[acoustic osprey]

can't comment

[ionic sable]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-god-of-war-knees-gods-gif-17928519

[median shuttle]

Isaac, do you know something we all dont know?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1250387169193889792/20240610_091657.gif

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-car-steal-hubcap-run-gif-14032396

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-comeon-stickman-bored-gif-22722853

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[knotty locust]

isaac knows.

[tiny cypress]

This means many things.

[lethal moat]

Yep

[lethal moat]

I can mostly agree with that

That first step went off track, but AE decided how to best use them to their advantage, despite not getting what they were looking for

New theory, gen 2 is not the final goal, but rather AE’s attempt to somewhat save face after leaving the islands

You have the ability to transfer consciousness into different bodies, and the ability to make different bodies, and you still choose to be somewhat human?

There’s so much to improve on

[chilly breach]

ya, need frogs to make dinosaurs.

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 could have been a step in the right direction, with variety being the primary benefit, and a familiarity to the human body, but it seems like they may not have gotten the EIP part correctly

All of this assuming of course, that EIPs represent consciousness transfer

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/babyyoda-yoda-baby-sipstea-tea-gif-9421642385430134521

[lethal moat]

Gross

[hexed forge]

Whats wrong with tea

[lethal moat]

Bean juice > leaf juice

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-president-presidential-debate-sleepy-joe-disagree-gif-7929505249295119210

[fast forge]

but the gif has coffee written over tea...

[hexed forge]

Blame the gif, not me

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-game-of-thrones-gif-11381550

[fast forge]

I really think they are just different ideas of the "ideal human".

Gen 1 is the "it can survive and adapt to nearly any environment" ideal human, meant to survive after a climate apocalypse

Gen 2 is the "Hollywood movie poster" ideal human, meant to conform to modern cultural standards of human beauty and physical prowess

[lethal moat]

What is human could also be in argument

Is it form or mind

[hexed forge]

Here we go again

[lethal moat]

You don’t need to be homo sapiens to be human

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, yes, for the most part you do.

[lethal moat]

So if somebody is mostly a person, they're still a human?

[hexed forge]

To be a Human. You need to be a Homo Species.

To be a Person..

Is it possible to view a Person and a Human to be two different things?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

Would you consider sentient aliens to be people?

[hexed forge]

Possibly yes

[lethal moat]

New question

Do "natural human rights" apply to people or just to humans?

[fast forge]

wrong

Homo neanderthalensis
Homo denisova
Homo floresiensis
Homo habilis
Homo erectus

Lots of non-Homo sapiens humans

[hexed forge]

AHHH

Fixed?

[fast forge]

Also yes, we view lots of non-humans in fantasy and sci-fi as people

[lethal moat]

So

If intelligent enough, this could be a person

[hexed forge]

Yes

[lethal moat]

Alright

If intelligent enough, this could be a person

[fast forge]

also possible it's a human, but not a person

[lethal moat]

True

[hexed forge]

Yes, but.

[fast forge]

A fun read that explores this topic is the book "Man After Man"

it explores the future of humanity, and species that might evolve from us

[hexed forge]

Elaborate on "If intelligent enough"

What's the line that is needed to be crossed to be considered a person.

[fast forge]

It's a very very blurry line

[lethal moat]

Lets say you put somebody's mind directly into operating that creature

[lethal moat]

Now what if we artificially force that evolution?

[hexed forge]

But does that mind start acting like a creature?

[lethal moat]

Does that matter?

[hexed forge]

I think so, yes

[lethal moat]

People can act like animals given the right conditions

[fast forge]

A big part of my own personal philosophy is that there are no definite lines in nature. We only draw lines to make the world easier to understand, but the actual world is full of gradients and spectra

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[fast forge]

That's part of what the book is about, and includes both natural and artificial evolution

[hexed forge]

Mehhhhhhhhh, in specific conditions ig

[lethal moat]

So wether or not you consider someone a person depends on a set of conditions that does not entirely involve them?

[hexed forge]

It does involve them and their actions. For example if their mind got put into a.. raptor body for example. And they act like a raptor, do things that are raptor-like. They are no longer a person. Not much intelligence being displayed.

I think one of the main factors to be considered a person is to display a large amount of intelligence.

Know how to speak, understand what others are showing or saying, etc.

[lethal moat]

Lets say you put a normal person into an entirely different body, do you think you'll be able to predict who still comes out the other end a person?

[hexed forge]

Not predictable, we just don't know much about the entire process of EIPs.

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

[lethal moat]

Lets say there's a bunch of people put on a desert island, could you predict which ones would or would not go insane?

[fast forge]

ahh but this ignores a major idea in philosophy, the concept of self

If I stuck your mind in a box and you could still think and have ideas, but can't interact with the outside world, are you still a person?

[hexed forge]

Not predictable unless one of them has a past record of mental issues

[fast forge]

"I think therefore I am" and all that

so it's easy to recognize sapience in yourself, but harder in others

A useful part of sci-fi and fantasy is the ability to explore these questions

And the isle is no exception

[hexed forge]

Something interesting about this area, a bunch of fallen trees.

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, that's a fun area

[patent ginkgo]

that used to be an unfinished sanctuary

[hexed forge]

Ah true

[tiny cypress]

Words have no true meaning, but in a literal sense, yeah! A person only refers to an individual of a given populous, not a human specifically.

[tiny cypress]

I meant to react to this message, for context

[hexed forge]

Mmm thanks

[lethal moat]

I am very stuck on this “new species for the human race to inhabit” theory, it’s wacky and I love it

[tiny cypress]

It reminds me of the plot of subnautica -0

want the world's dumbest theory? Courtesy of a friend.

[lethal moat]

Go for it

[tiny cypress]

The gloom in helldivers 2 is the same stuff that caused the megafauna mutations

[lethal moat]

Wack

[tiny cypress]

Wack

[elder notch]

where is that?

[lethal moat]

I think the ocean is going to be more important than we currently understand, because of megaflora, crabs, and Dondi consistently referencing massive things in deep water, granted, those massive things could be ones we already know about, but it’s worth considering

[nimble fractal]

Add aquatic stage matriarch as a world's border

[strange shell]

Any lore that includes giant crabs is better than a lore that doesn't include giant crabs

[fading moat]

I kind of hope they make more areas like this even if it was an unfinished sanc that was just torn down. Would be really cool for small animals as a sort of mini sanctuary without bees or cycads

[hexed forge]

Next to East dome

[young viper]

Is there any strain that can change shape?

It would be scary

Imagine talking to a guy who isn't actually a guy

And then poof kills you without you knowing how you died

https://tenor.com/view/mystique-transformation-gif-18044137

[lethal moat]

We don’t know enough about tisso, or even neuro tbh
I’m a big fan of tisso getting some sort of active camouflage like a Chameleon

https://tenor.com/view/chameleon-glasses-changing-colors-adapting-gif-5182025

[bold crater]

👃
I sensed camouflage talk.
Yes Tissoplastic is very cool indeed if it camouflages
IF....it camouflages.
If it doesn't, well then.....well then it's not cool anymore ;C

[lethal moat]

What about regenerating large sections of lost biomass?

[bold crater]

:I
Well....I guess it's cool then.
...still want a camouflaging critter eeeeeee

Makin' me think of [PROTOTYPE] with all the absorbing biomass and regeneration stuff....

[young viper]

rugops

[hexed forge]

Don streamin

Swamp is hugeew

East Plains has.. very little trees now hm

But the fences aren't connected yet

AYE I SAW THAT

That structure in the southwest area is on the map lol

Just it's not textured

That weird dock thing

It had a text above it but I couldn't see

Transistor?

Flattening the entire NW ridge area lol

I wonder if it's being flatted because it might become an MZ? 🤔
Or is it because we will get a human structure there.

Nothing major at NW tho here

Between South plains and Perimeter

LABS

Utility something

[sonic rampart]

compound

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

Thanks

Lots of information

Hypocrenon

Couldnt get the SS in time

[fading moat]

I saw another docks somewhere

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[muted hill]

only place I could find that word doesnt seem to be common at all

[fading moat]

No it was labled something docks. There was nothing there yet

I am pretty sure it said docks it was backwards and only saw for a sec

[hexed forge]

Tower

[hexed forge]

Hmmm ok

[muted hill]

hell yeah cross over time joke aside I wonder if itll be a big security tower or like a basic scout tower

as its near labs

[hexed forge]

Mhm

Or it could be that weird legacy tower we saw in concepts

[muted hill]

oooh yeah

[hexed forge]

VISITOR CENTER

[muted hill]

visitor center

thats lit

[hexed forge]

So thats the thing in the middle of the swamp

[muted hill]

is there already a building there?

[hexed forge]

Something

[patent ginkgo]

(Flooded)

[patent ginkgo]

Hmm, aviary

Also, Dome Gate

[muted hill]

Operations south is over swamp

[hexed forge]

We got 3 names for the damn perimeter lol

[hexed forge]

I think Ima start putting down lore document adjustments lol

[patent ginkgo]

The Visitor Center is huge

That really changes what we knew about the island

[muted hill]

interesting thats flooded hopefully we find out if that was accidental or on purpose

[fast forge]

and the fact that it's on the old concept map is nice

[hexed forge]

2 things on the old concept that are planned to be on the map

[lethal moat]

Or this was a bait and switch

[fast forge]

I think he's just messing with us there

[lethal moat]

Or is he

[hexed forge]

Its probably just the naming that isnt accurate

[fast forge]

the concept map has a circle in that same location, so I think it's something

[hexed forge]

Labs, Tower, Visitor Center, Transistor, are the mosdt interesting locations so far that I saw

[lethal moat]

I’m not going to put too much brainpower into it, if we get it, that’ll be sick

[hexed forge]

Wow.

[fast forge]

yeah just a fun hint at potential future stuffs

[hexed forge]

The Tower, Transistor, And visitor center are all accurate to the old concept.

The LABS will probably be underground and thats why it isnt on the old concept

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

In the mountain structure perhaps

[fast forge]

maybe? I thought that spot was where south dome was at

[lethal moat]

Exciting stuff

[hexed forge]

No, its not where the dome is at.

[hexed forge]

?

[lethal moat]

Map changes to explore

[hexed forge]

oh ye

[charred dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-modern-warfare2-stare-meme-2022-gif-27104713

[fast forge]

Okay extra long lunch break is over, gotta miss the end of strimm

Y'all keep me updated

[hexed forge]

Cya

What the hell is a Transistor?

uh

[zenith frigate]

i doubt it is literally a transistor

[lethal moat]

Maybe not a transistor of electricity, but a processing area of something else

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm

[icy onyx]

Transistor can be applied to a lot of meanings. If labs isnt just CC bait, im sure it being near labs and a tower is of some importance

[hexed forge]

The labs are probably in the mountain, part of GUTS

[icy onyx]

Could have something to do with communication, or storage of information, or satalites even

[hexed forge]

Maybe LABS is an acronym

[lethal moat]

mhm

[hexed forge]

Cant see what it could be tho

[ornate comet]

LABS...Let Acro Be Soon ive solved the case

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[icy onyx]

[hexed forge]

But thats Ben

You cant hurt Ben

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1219346714587304077/The_Isle_Lore.gif

[lethal moat]

Doesn't make a difference to the replicator

[hexed forge]

[icy onyx]

Sacrifice is sacrifice

[lethal moat]

I don't make the rules, I just gleefully capture gen 2 and sacrifice them like I'm told

[hexed forge]

https://imgur.com/cqwyrjq

[icy onyx]

May the replicator bless

[ornate comet]

real

[hexed forge]

Made by Jack

Old Gateway concept for reference

[signal pivot]

Man this reminds me of a local conspiracy here in va

I guess it’s sort of unrelated but it’s a parallel that interests me ig?
there are known to be a few specific bunkers (5) in the state that look exactly alike, and light up at night, cause the sky to glow.
People who work there can’t talk about them and people have only speculated. They have something called troposcatter relay stations (two giant ominous cube-like structures on top) on each one, they were build during the Cold War, and from google maps you can see that it’s an underground type of facility

Idk. Like I said it’s unrelated but I’m incredibly fascinated by this kind of stuff and it might be a side reason why the isles’ structures interest me since that’s something I do like to try and study irl with classified areas/conspiracies like that. I used to live right next to one of those and it was creepy.

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[hexed forge]

I wonder if the Tower is that weird tower from a legacy concept.

The massive one.

[hexed forge]

That thing

[hexed forge]

oh its.. its literally. oh.

Nevermind..

[zenith frigate]

might just be placeholder though

[hexed forge]

Perhaps...

[zenith frigate]

i hope it is because that tower looks cool

[hexed forge]

But what is its purpose..?

[zenith frigate]

radio tower

[livid ruin]

what happened to the replicator theories?

[hexed forge]

Gone.

[livid ruin]

tbh i want to involved in the lore of the isle just because there so much potential

[zenith frigate]

had a stroke and died

[hexed forge]

Not being discussed at this moment

[livid ruin]

what abaout the radio tower thing for evirma

[hexed forge]

We arent sure

[livid ruin]

didnt it say something such as "we are here"

which makes me think that humans are still around

[hexed forge]

Legacy lore

[clear crystal]

I’m from va 😮😮

[low scarab]

why did you think its this one

I yearn for any sense of hope they return

[hexed forge]

Random assumption idk

[low scarab]

l

i hope we see it soon

[fast forge]

There was a point in the stream where Don was working on beaches, and there was a funny little inlet that I didn't recognize

I think it might have been this?

where the ocean comes in there?

[hexed forge]

"Small Dock"

So yeah there are indeed some differences from the original concept

But most of it is pretty similar to the OG concept

[muted reef]

Damn my bad I'll do itn ow

[muted reef]

Which dinos you want it to be

[hexed forge]

any,

It says the % value when you choose it

[muted reef]

Oh ok

I thought you meant test the speed

[clear crystal]

Wat r y’all cooking

[hexed forge]

Testing

@meager junco Did you set the speed mutation value to 25% in config?

[muted reef]

@hexed forge 5%

[hexed forge]

He probably didnt change it or it doesnt work

[muted reef]

@valid geyser How I change admin chat again lmao

[valid geyser]

As in to global or the admin chat itself lol

[muted reef]

Admin, you're on shirley right

[valid geyser]

Yeah

I think you just hit tab a few times after clicking enter

[muted reef]

It says that on the menu but my walk speed feels real quick

[hexed forge]

What about run speed?

[muted reef]

I'm gonna do the default speed and then the mutation one

55.6 default

58.4 buffed

So yeah 5% I think

[hexed forge]

Rip

[muted reef]

@valid geyser be carno too

[valid geyser]

Aighty

[meager junco]

Doesn’t work

Idk why

[hexed forge]

oof

[fast forge]

Wait, is there a tunnel visible in this image?
Also I realized all those small spheres inside a box is the sanctuary
the spheres are the radius of the bees

[hexed forge]

Not sure

[fast forge]

and that's a pretty blank cliff face near the sanctuary

fun

[lethal moat]

Replicator is fun, we actually just got a little bit if info on it

[snow jasper]

Im guessing EP isn't gonna get touched now SP has all of this on it "planned"

[fast forge]

East Plains has the nesting grounds, if we are going by the concept map

[snow jasper]

please no, unless they intertwine with MZ's and have a different design than a literal open sand bowl, I really dont see why NG's should make a comeback

[fast forge]

and I think Don even mentioned east plains getting a makeover at some point

[hexed forge]

^

[snow jasper]

Yes, but that was when EP was a hotspot, which they were looking at solutions, and now thats all in the past

[hexed forge]

EP still needs some changes.

[fast forge]

In that concept map there are also small nesting grounds at west access

[hexed forge]

Just because its not a hotspot doesnt mean it doesnt need adjustments

[fast forge]

nah, I think a number of spots on the map have planned updates

[snow jasper]

unless you replace what is the entirety of the palm area in EP with nesting grounds, then okay sure why not
we never saw an NG to this scale

and put it inside of one of the Mass MGZ's

and like the patrol areas, do the same with NG's

[fast forge]

I dunno what it will look like

EP is pretty hilly, some of that will probably remain the same

[hexed forge]

Don was flattening the entire area

[fast forge]

I saw him flatten NW ridge

[hexed forge]

NW ridge and East plains were being flattened

[fast forge]

oh

[hexed forge]

I saw both

[fast forge]

oh jeez that was scary

I'm a dryo sitting in a bush and a cera just runs by

was it you?

[hexed forge]

Nah, Im a cera but currently still a bb

[fast forge]

this was at least subadult

[hexed forge]

Cute Puppy

[low scarab]

Oh sweet

When?

[fast forge]

he said it months ago, but apparently worked on it in the stream today (I only saw the first chunk of the stream)

[low scarab]

Which one were you thinking?

[hexed forge]

It was during the start of the year when he did a bunch of streams

[low scarab]

I only saw the black screen part sadly

[low scarab]

W

Everyone is full on analyzing the stream to get any minuscule adjustment to the map early lol

[lethal moat]

Just that it's a collection of systems making up something rather than just 1 thing

[fast forge]

most of what I saw was just map editing and working on patrols
chill for me to watch, but not for everyone

[low scarab]

Ohhhh right

[low scarab]

I like watching dev stream no matter how boring it just kind of keeps my brain focused with whatever I may be working on I wish some of the other devs did it more often

[hexed forge]

We saw the labels of future areas

[low scarab]

Seriously?

I’m so out of touch lol

[hexed forge]

Transistor thingy, LABS(Potentially an acronym?), Small Docks, Visitor center.

However I doubt the naming "Visitor Center" is the actual name.

[low scarab]

Got a map or list stream clip etc?

[hexed forge]

Only pictures

[low scarab]

Anything will do

[fast forge]

what makes you doubt it? besides Don's comments

[hexed forge]

Check lorecord

[low scarab]

K

[hexed forge]

Just doesnt seem like that kind of facility would be on Gateway, or, it just doesnt feel like an AE name for a facility.

[fast forge]

With the way that Don's talked about segmentation in the corporate structure of AE, and how some higher ups only kinda know what's going on, I think that is a place where they can show off their project to others within the larger organization

[hexed forge]

Possibly

[fast forge]

All the outward facing aspects of this operation - dinosaurs, and fancy human bodies, and cool plants for medicine or climate change or whatever - display it all there

It certainly seems out of place at first considering the whole vibe with what AE has going on here, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense to me

Or I'm drinking copium, idk

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
If anything

It may likely be a hub for VIP and/or visiting execs

[fast forge]

yeah

[lethal moat]

Just walk outside and see a bary kneading the wood on the front porch lol

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, I would assume there would be a helipad right next to the facility then.

OR, the visitors get a tour around the island before making it to the "visitor center"

[hexed forge]

When Gateway was functional there was likely no swamp there.

[lethal moat]

Why's that?

[hexed forge]

Its not a good place to build a facility on.. I mean.. the label literally has "Flooded" on it.

[acoustic osprey]

Weird to see in a swamp though
But
I suppose, as it is flooded, such area is created due to whatever breakages happened after they left

[fast forge]

structures fail if they are not maintained

[acoustic osprey]

It is relatively hinted at with the River gate with no river

[hexed forge]

Still doubt.

[lethal moat]

AE clearly isn't one to turn down achitectural feats

[acoustic osprey]

Environments move
AE doesn't maintain their Environment

So the Environment takes its place
Hence why it is now flooded and a swamp

[lethal moat]

Plus, swamps would act as a nice moat to prevent some of the more capable human-hunters away from the area

[fast forge]

Perhaps it was on pillars in the swamp
it would certainly be atmospheric
(and especially so if it's a ruined structure in the swamp)

[acoustic osprey]

Being that it is flooded
I doubt it being at a swamp is on purpose though, by AE

[hexed forge]

I agree

[acoustic osprey]

If it was not flooded
I would agree they would've built over a pre-existing swamp

[hexed forge]

Some of the roads in the swamp are also flooded/covered by water. It definitely looked flooded

[acoustic osprey]

But architecturally building a big structure on a swamp is like building on top a sandy coast

Mostly unwise

But also weird for "visitor centre" if it truly is such or something synonymous

[hexed forge]

Yk Dondi probably did do it as bait, bait the people into going

"LOOK, ISLE IS ANOTHER JP CLONE!!! CLEARLY !!!"

He probably wasnt lying on that part

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[zenith frigate]

real

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-why-why-are-we-still-here-just-to-suffer-gif-17485467

[fast forge]

right in the middle

[hexed forge]

Flooded roads!!

[fast forge]

roads could also lead to bridges that lead to the structure

[hexed forge]

I mean, they technically do already have the bridge model. So why didnt they do it?

[fast forge]

because it would lead to a structure that hasn't been made yet

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-sounds-good-jim-halpert-the-office-good-point-gif-15559601663074157456

Speaking of Swamps.. Currently in it..

Swamp has one of the best night lighting ever.

[zenith frigate]

forgot to put this here

[hexed forge]

Nice!

My friend just said "What if the Transistor is just a giant powerline that goes through the entire ocean to other islands"

[lethal moat]

Could be

[hexed forge]

Im not sure how smart that would be on AE's side

[zenith frigate]

im thinking its a power plant of some sort

[fast forge]

what did it look like on Don's screen? I didn't see that one