isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

Maybe Source Code Pro

Or that might just be the font in the lore videos.

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[zenith frigate]

i will try
thx

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

[fast forge]

If it's like the Library of Alexandria, then a genome database makes sense
Why keep it in a jar when you can just write it down?

[lethal moat]

If the TOMB was purged, what happened to the EIPs?

Are they just gone?

[hexed forge]

Rest in pieces.

[lethal moat]

Does it turn into everyone's last life?

[low scarab]

I would expect eips to be a database like discussed earlier a separate piece of the replicator

[low scarab]

Rest in code

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[knotty locust]

library of Alexandria…….

[hexed forge]

The Replicator continued making dinos after "The incidents" right?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bWv4F.gif

[low scarab]

Ah never mind then I guess everyone just is dead

[hexed forge]

Yep, rest in pieces.

[low scarab]

Ah yep exactly

[hexed forge]

What if we play during the time period of the TOMB being purged

What if Gen2 are the one that purge TOMB

[low scarab]

Does this tie in with thousand life contract somehow losing all these eips I guess would be a problem

[lethal moat]

Purged implies the past

[hexed forge]

oh

[low scarab]

At least in the terms of whatever they were trying to accomplish with thousand life contract

[hexed forge]

Well, You are correct there.

[lethal moat]

Probably somehow

[hexed forge]

So during the time period of us playing, we arent EIPs.

[lethal moat]

Written right at the top is "climate change and big lizards"

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

Or does every EIP just get put on their last life.

[low scarab]

Hmm

[lethal moat]

Well we can respawn, so either we're new EIPs or we aren't EIPs at all

Or something else

[hexed forge]

Watch that just be a game aspect, and not tied to lore at all.

But I hopefully doubt.

Its either that or perhaps TOMB was purged during the time of us playing the game.

[fast forge]

I mean
You think they'd store every EIP in the same location?
TOMB is just the biggest storage unit, I'd imagine
We don't even know if the loss of TOMB erased the knowledge of how to make EIP's

[hexed forge]

But then... past tense just like rumple said.

[lethal moat]

I'm trying to think of a comparison to losing all the EIPs other than the library of Alexandria, and all I go to is Cyberpunk when the Net crashed and released the R.A.B.I.D.S.

[fast forge]

Modern EIP's could be ones created by another company, for all we know

[hexed forge]

To create life the replicator needs all of its systems, including TOMB.

[fast forge]

or a replacement
but that was just a hypothetical anyways

[lethal moat]

Since the replicator isn't just one thing, we could be recapturing the replicator, one segment at a time

[hexed forge]

Or disabling the replicator

Purge the TOMB!

I really want that to be a thing, but past tense ahhhhh.

[lethal moat]

My boi Augustus is in there!

[hexed forge]

Purging the TOMB releases all the bodies inside

[lethal moat]

Or it kills them

[hexed forge]

Probably kills them yeah

[lethal moat]

Purging is very final

[fast forge]

bodies? you mean people working?
I don't think there are physical bodies, like a morgue

[lethal moat]

Anomalous creatures preserved is my guess

[hexed forge]

Bodies of the assets.

What rumple said above yeah ^

[fast forge]

Maybe some, but you can store genetic code much more easily by just writing it down and storing it in a database
This already exists, I've used them

In cases where the genome won't give you the whole picture, it makes sense

[knotty locust]

whats that guy's name that went around the world and outsmarted the cyclops?

odysseus?

i wonder if his name means anything in the lore yet

[lethal moat]

Also, the fact that AE will allow it's employees to affectionately nickname asset shows that they are potentially understanding or that they allow what they think doesn't harm them

[lethal moat]

I'd be more interested in Daedalus tbh

[fast forge]

I don't understand the last half of this sentence

[hexed forge]

I would say AE only allows its high ranking employees to name them only.

[hexed forge]

Same.

[fast forge]

it would be a lead researcher, no doubt
In a normal biology lab they might let the team vote on it, but this company seems more secretive

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[knotty locust]

nah i imagine its like giving a name to something you handle/deal with repeatedly

for example, at work, i call the """french fry""""" warmer a "chip thing" because i didnt know what it was actually named

[hexed forge]

Yo- what. You didnt know-

[lethal moat]

I wonder if Dean is more sociable than other rexes

[fast forge]

Both. In research it can be helpful to give a subject a nickname to refer to it in shorthand if it's something you speak about often

[knotty locust]

how was i supposed to know what the thing that warms chips is named

[hexed forge]

[knotty locust]

to this day i still call it a chip thing, when i know what it actually is

[lethal moat]

Well we forgot to ask Dondi about the space race thing

[hexed forge]

We know that there were atleast 3 rexes in the clutch.

So I wonder if its a Indo-Rex situation.

The first rex gets killed by its siblings, while the other continue to live on to become a future problem for AE...

Its different from the JW situaton yes, but there are some similarities perhaps.

[fast forge]

he's probably still around

[lethal moat]

Is Dean smart enough to avoid/use Shirley's agression?

[knotty locust]

well its said that theres nothing really unique about the two rexes, so i imagine not

if he could somehow direct his sister's(?) rage towards something, that would be too smart

[fast forge]

Dean later in life?

[lethal moat]

The wombo combo

[lethal moat]

I considered it, but I think that's too many assumtions

[knotty locust]

i like to think that dean is more crowlike

[fast forge]

they are basically the only two times we've heard about something getting smarter, so it's understandable to consider a connection

[hexed forge]

I mean, the way Dondi described Shirley and Dean was...basically like

Hyper/Neuro duo lol.

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[knotty locust]

its an interesting thought

[fast forge]

great point

[knotty locust]

definitely keep it in the back of your head

(so that the neurostrain steals it)

[fast forge]

Perhaps a starting point for that research

[lethal moat]

Is number 1 or number 3 a tisso then

[fast forge]

although it would be fun if Shirley and Dean specifically ended their lives as a hyper and a neuro

[hexed forge]

Or is it dead.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-chosen-one-you-were-the-chosen-one-gif-7521423

[hexed forge]

Out of the clutch only Dean and Shirley were special iirc

[hexed forge]

Plot twist, since the third sibling is more tisso-like it regenerates its entire body and appears at the end as a fully functional tisso-rex (Joking)

They thought Charlie died...but he came back..

[lethal moat]

I'm trying to think what a tisso's distinguishing physical characteristics would be

[hexed forge]

More spikey

Smaller than the original asset

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[iron anchor]

isaac, if youre still here, what did you mean by this

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/was-it-something-i-said-miles-teller-peter-divergent-was-it-what-i-said-gif-18451876

Totally not staring at this Tapwing art.

[lethal moat]

Those arts aren't official

[hexed forge]

We could still use it as a nice reference!

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

Actually did we even get any official tisso art, ever.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

Once

[iron anchor]

isnt it outdated?

[acoustic osprey]

no, a few times

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[iron anchor]

its the tisso rex one right? with all 3 strains of rex

i dont know any others

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lemme-see-lemme-see-let-me-see-baby-yoda-gif-21233122

[acoustic osprey]

Tisso rex and tisso reaper

[iron anchor]

oh true

[iron anchor]

isaac what did you mean

[acoustic osprey]

technically also one more

[hexed forge]

Aha

[acoustic osprey]

we got a tissoplastic raptor as well

[hexed forge]

Ceratosaurus ...

[iron anchor]

cerato themed sauna

[hexed forge]

Ceratosaurus DNA makes up some of the Hyper strain

[acoustic osprey]

megalosaurus as well

[hexed forge]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

it might not be actually referring to the Rex itself
as there is graphs behind it

likely referring to all Hypers at the time

[iron anchor]

what does tissoplastic mean

[hexed forge]

Hyper Ceratosaurus confirmed..

[iron anchor]

eternal tissue?

i mean its supposed to be regenerative right?

[soft spade]

Dean is a sibling to Shirley?

[acoustic osprey]

there's an accompanying one above which was a tissoplastic

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[soft spade]

yay

[hexed forge]

Huh, interesting.

[acoustic osprey]

Tissoplastics (Type-T)
Tissos, and not tissues, are the third major strain within The Isle, for both Legacy and Evrima.
The same with Hyperendocrin and Neurotenic, the name itself is another compound word, but it’s a bit more unknown.
Tisso - There are two possible answers for this
Tissø (Tissu), which is, roughly, Danish for Gods’ Lake or Tyr’s (Tir) Lake, The Aesir.
Which isn’t likely what Tisso means.

Or Tissue - Not the paper, but the medical term. Usually relating to subjects like skin. Tissue, though, being Tisso is an interesting abbreviation, but more likely the correct meaning.

Plastic - Not exactly the material, but the meaning behind the word. Coming from the Greek “plastikos”, meaning to mould or give form

Tissos are not very large things. They are, at least from very little information we had from proper Legacy, generally smaller than their strain counterparts and their normal basal counterparts.

However, Tissos were and are still the most mysterious of the three strains.
In Legacy, they could be defined as dark and almost batlike.
Commented to have the ability to camouflage, envenomate creatures and were supposedly quite speedy. However, before Evrima, Tissos were said to be getting changed.
In Evrima, though, Dondi has stated, only, that they can regenerate lost or destroyed limbs.

Little was and is known about Tissos.

this is what I have from my isle loreberg script

[iron anchor]

ah very nice

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-dog-awkward-dog-confused-awkward-confused-dog-gif-2881577801438605193

[iron anchor]

thank you bob shrimple

[acoustic osprey]

Bob Sherman

[iron anchor]

my bad

[hexed forge]

Isaac when Dibble video review

[acoustic osprey]

Dibble Lore video*

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

albeit, a lore review would be interesting though

[hexed forge]

Confused.

[acoustic osprey]

review =/= lore video

[hexed forge]

Oh yes

So.. When dibble lore video

[acoustic osprey]

I know this wasn't final or anything,
but I do wonder if it'll be more refined to feel "80s-esque" with it's VFX
rather than the more "clean-UI" feel

do wonder if they tried such and it just didn't work
especially @ 4k

[acoustic osprey]

soon...
I was gonna work on it this week. But I have been... sick

[lethal moat]

I'm curious how the display of chip tracking will change

[acoustic osprey]

will it change?

[hexed forge]

Ah, hope you get better soon. If you are still recovering

[lethal moat]

If the character menu changes, I imagine something there could change

[hexed forge]

Also Don stated that he wants a live feed of cameras on the right iirc.

Kind of like this I suppose, not sure.

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/IjiPzRcNUNQ?list=PL4E7qNnNoqggkvcsGD8VPWu8yNGi2IL3s
reminds me of this

albeit
also reminds me of the current UI we have

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

all right
seems like Don has gone
and chat has cooled

so i'm going to update the doc now

[hexed forge]

yay

[fast forge]

this is fanart, right?

[lethal moat]

Nope, Reodrigo Vega

[fast forge]

oh

it's interesting that the tisso has extra cells

[hexed forge]

Legacy lore

[fast forge]

And the cell count grows by entire magnatudes, you can see the Y axis is
10^8
10^7
10^6
10^5

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/who-hath-summoned-me-to-this-realm-satan-south-park-time-to-get-cereal-who-dares-summon-me-gif-19489235

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523282321303142400/1209905095433650186/melon.gif

[lethal moat]

Dean is real

[hexed forge]

Dean is Shirleys sibling

To summarize them both:

[meager junco]

The old old Rex? Jesus I remember a mention of him a while back but didn’t think he was in evrima lore

[hexed forge]

YOU KNEW

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[meager junco]

Isaac told me once when speaking about Shirley in legacy lore

[fast forge]

what do you know about him?

[meager junco]

Just the name

[hexed forge]

ISAAC KNEW

[meager junco]

Either Isaac or someone who was into lore

[meager junco]

What’s the specifics

Been busy today

[acoustic osprey]

technically Fred talked about Dean a while back in a Don stream lol

but I knew about Shirley ages prior

[hexed forge]

Now I wonder what else would come back from Legacy lore..

[meager junco]

ISLANDWALKERS

[acoustic osprey]

oh no

[hexed forge]

Oh heck no

I hope not

[meager junco]

Lowkey just want to know what they are , don’t even want them back

[patent ginkgo]

Just caught up

Such a fun lore dump

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[meager junco]

I still don’t know half of what the lore dump was yet

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/antoine-rome-hbo-marc-antoine-mark-anthony-hbo-gif-18515894

[hexed forge]

Would be hilarious if you just ask Dondi to explain what they were in legacy lore and he just says

"They are canon in evrima too"

[hexed forge]

Read the Dev quotes in lorecord

[meager junco]

Ngl

Prob

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

I just cant see how they would fit into the lore..

Unless Golem-Ceti...

[meager junco]

We didn’t see how EIPS fit before

[acoustic osprey]

Gen1s

[acoustic osprey]

erm technically

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[lethal moat]

@acoustic osprey I think it's all caught up

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/radio-silence-quiet-shh-hush-zip-it-gif-13630350476456988353

[hexed forge]

But we then figured it out before Dondi even stated they were canon.

[lethal moat]

So we concluded that the name of the gen 1 program is likely Deimos Project right? But it never got hard confirmed

[hexed forge]

Thats what I believe yes

Not sure about the others

[acoustic osprey]

It was

[meager junco]

Yes but I’m saying, anything can fit if don wants it to fit, if matriarch is truly a 200ft long monster, I don’t see why a 200ft tall monster is so out of place

[hexed forge]

Could it be the same thing in evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

it's only from Evrima...

[lethal moat]

Should I move GOLEM-Ceti Deimos Project to the gen 1 section?

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

was it not already?

[lethal moat]

Nope

[acoustic osprey]

wack

[meager junco]

Did don like semi confirm it?

[lethal moat]

It got a footnote "In relation to generation one"

[hexed forge]

But on a real note. How.

How and why would they fit. Why would they be created by AE. What purpose.

With EIPs we were able to atleast think about it and see how it connected, but for Islandwalkers. How would it connect?

[hexed forge]

Did you note down that Gen1 have a different name used by AE. Product name.

[lethal moat]

I'm putting it down now

[hexed forge]

yay

[meager junco]

I mean, maybe they’re a byproduct of some research like matriarch is, maybe they were an ultimate goal back in legacy, maybe that’s what they could be in evrima, at the end of the day, I can’t 100% confirm nor unconfirm on information we know so little about, I’m not saying that they’ll return for sure, I’m saying it can go both ways

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[lethal moat]

I get the feeling a lot of AE's really obscure stuff is something weird happening and AE going "How far can we go down this rabbit hole with the replicator?

[meager junco]

That or
“Well, we already made it, why destroy it”

[lethal moat]

I want to swap out all "worship" with "serve"

[meager junco]

Ok so going through the quotes
“SYNTH.003”

That’s quite something, I think Isaac and I touched on that subject literally a few weeks prior to this

Let me get it

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-tears-in-rain-gif-6049032

[hexed forge]

Did you guys include that wild-born nested animals dont have anything unusual going on with them

[acoustic osprey]

I'll add a footnote

[hexed forge]

👍

[meager junco]

HA so we were right on that part too

[hexed forge]

We were?

Im pretty sure we are wrong if Im thinking of the correct theory.

[lethal moat]

How much priceless intellectual property and actual cost do you think AE lost when the TOMB was purged

[meager junco]

Basically wild nested animals might have more benefits than lab bred ones

[hexed forge]

Wasnt the theory that Shirley was an offspring of the first 2 rexes. That caused it to develop unusual behavior, etc.

[hexed forge]

Im saying the opposite!

Dondi said Wild-born animals dont have anything unusual going on with them

[lethal moat]

Footnote 20

[hexed forge]

yay

I think that should be it

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing really perturbing occurs from wild-born animals. It's all the lab things that go sideways and get invested in for interesting results

[hexed forge]

yes @meager junco

[lethal moat]

I'm going to go get some cinnamon rolls, I'll be back

[meager junco]

That’s what I said

[acoustic osprey]

Which basically confirms AUGUSTUS is lab-made
which was relatively hinted at in the video itself

[meager junco]

“More benefits than lab bred ones”

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-12-emoji12-cat-stare-stare-cat-uhh-gif-9567425571520721039

[acoustic osprey]

no, vice versa

[hexed forge]

^

[acoustic osprey]

Lab-made creations offer more interesting results

[meager junco]

Oh because mutations are good

[acoustic osprey]

due to more anomalous behaviour/aspects

[meager junco]

I see, good point

I thought more of like failed neuro experiments type of aspects

[lethal moat]

I need to update the wheel at some point

[acoustic osprey]

you're thinking more of the "things that go sideways"
Part of the quote

[meager junco]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

then
"get invested in for interesting results" (for lab created animals)

which you can basically relate to AUGUSTUS as well

be's annoying around H4
-> Oh he can climb!
-> let's invest in his template and make more!

[meager junco]

Yeh I’m still catching up on what was said today, good to know , seems like AE likes when things don’t go 100% according to plan, or at the very least, adapt very well

[meager junco]

H4 reference

[acoustic osprey]

definitely
seems like they like things to happen rather than things being simple

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-flashback-traumatized-cat-gif-7852054576948114551

[acoustic osprey]

also reflects their "god-ego"

[hexed forge]

yeeee

[acoustic osprey]

especially Greek Gods

[meager junco]

That’s very true

[lethal moat]

The ability to go “jarivs, give me this man’s genetic breakdown and tell me why he did that” is the pretty cool part of creating an artificial ecosystem, you know what happens inside it

[acoustic osprey]

oh i must do something! Being immortal is so boring

[lethal moat]

Don’t be Zeus

[acoustic osprey]

for AE
oh something must happen! Being the greatest is so boring when nothing happens!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-mortal-kombat-1-mk1-the-boys-omni-man-gif-13290065678128316882

[meager junco]

Makes a lot of sense

[acoustic osprey]

you grew something in your brain? YARG!!!!
+100 apollo points

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-can't-sleep-no-sleep-iron-man-gif-11908026668375463291

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

aye

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-borat-nice-like-very-good-gif-19316981

[patent ginkgo]

+100 dondi bucks

[lethal moat]

*Replicator brownie points because you’re special

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

Dinobux for the isle battlepass

[patent ginkgo]

So true

[meager junco]

Dondi dollars 💵 *

[lethal moat]

Gonna spend it all on pattern recognition

[patent ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/893686109509394482/image0.gif

So, seems like strain research kinda started due to Shirley and dean?

[meager junco]

Looks like they’re definitely special, which we had a clue about Shirley, but I’m honestly bedazzled that Dean is returning

[acoustic osprey]

and/or the leakage

who knows
could be one thing
or a larger amount of aspects

[lethal moat]

That still seems like a bit of a jump, but I wouldn’t rule it out

[meager junco]

Shirley is bigger than most rexs and especially vicious I suppose

Definitely a rexy situation lolol

[lethal moat]

I wonder what Dean’s physical impediment is
2 dinobux says he’s blind

[meager junco]

LOL

I got you with that dibble meme

“Dave”

[acoustic osprey]

has a lisp

[lethal moat]

The memes and the lore are starting to mix together

[patent ginkgo]

Wonder if Gen 1 is to gen 2 as shirley is to dean

[lethal moat]

They’re from the same batch

[acoustic osprey]

they come from the same "clutch"
so I doubt

[meager junco]

Yeh they’re siblings

[patent ginkgo]

Yes, but I mean in the sense of one being more physically capable while the other is smarter

[acoustic osprey]

more so
Neuro vs Hyper

[patent ginkgo]

I’m thinking of Shirley and dean as kind of a start to a decent amount of research

[meager junco]

I think Shirley is just similar to rexy in terms of what she is, but has much more backstory that we don’t know

[lethal moat]

I don’t see Dean being that much smarter, smarter than a normal rex doesn’t necessarily imply consciousness, but Dondi’s response to the followup question throws that into question as well

[meager junco]

What if dean is a BEN Rex, no tail

Oh wait there’s a meme of that isn’t there lol tex?

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/825126700735528982/962092435356405830/DBAB7744-80D9-4706-B28B-31772F712CEB.gif

[meager junco]

I forgot about that lol

[hexed forge]

I'm more curious about the third sibling, if there even is one.

[lethal moat]

This podcast on Thursday is going to be a hefty one

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-of-the-conchords-conchords-dead-he-may-be-dead-gif-5599192

[acoustic osprey]

well
who is/was 001

[hexed forge]

It was the friends we made along the wa-

[iron anchor]

at this rate he will be known for having rather good regeneration

[meager junco]

Now I’m thinking the Shirley video won’t just be Shirley, but maybe showing us the entire batch of eggs hatching, and showing us dean and Shirley, maybe even why dean is somehow impaired, maybe Shirley was a rough player and somehow injured dean when they were young

[hexed forge]

Well, doubt it.

Dean and Shirley were the only unique ones in the clutch

[iron anchor]

oh

[hexed forge]

Showcase the scar system using Dean/Shirley

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[lethal moat]

The sadness in the researcher’s voice when they realize Dean isn’t going to be ok

[meager junco]

Mhm and maybe in their adult lives, dean and Shirley are rivals for territory, kind of a cool story imo, start as family, end as enemies

[hexed forge]

Nah Dean just outsmarts Shirley

[meager junco]

I gotta start making dean memes

[lethal moat]

He has some sort of impairment, he was either born with it or acquired it, either way, bad day for researchers

[acoustic osprey]

I imagine something like bullfighting

Strong bull
but smarter human

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

basically balances out each other

[meager junco]

I’m thinking probably Shirley if she’s especially vicious

[acoustic osprey]

bad day?
increased intelligence wouldn't be bad for researchers!

[hexed forge]

^

Especially since AE wants something interesting to happen to their assets!

[lethal moat]

They don’t know initially

[acoustic osprey]

but the same is with Shirley

Neither are known at the time to have anything unique about them

[lethal moat]

So, when was the impairment discovered vs his intelligence

[meager junco]

Only thing that could’ve shown Shirley was different was probably size, and even then, animals grow at different rates, even some of the same species

[acoustic osprey]

but the same goes for
exceptionally large vs viciousness with Shirley

[lethal moat]

“She was supposed to stop growing a month ago!”
“You try and tell her that.”

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/focused-im-ready-prepared-battle-lets-do-this-gif-16076919

[lethal moat]

JP did have a larger and a smaller rex

[meager junco]

It’s nice we got a “big one” in lore like JP
Except this time, it’s a Rex

[acoustic osprey]

male and female...

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

I could see Shirley constantly biting the researchers when it hatched lol.

[fast forge]

the job I always wanted as a kid

[acoustic osprey]

the lifestyle i have to endure 24/7 being in australia!!

[meager junco]

That’s what I’m curious about, it wasn’t specified what exactly she’s vicious at, wonder if it’s only towards scientist or if she’s just always enraged and is on a warpath 24/7

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-bruce-smell-blood-sharks-gif-17116481064341756863

[hexed forge]

Indominus.. kill everything..

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-shark-smile-teeth-bruce-gif-4858585

[fast forge]

we don't really have any deadly spiders in my area, but I've seen mountain lion tracks while walking to the car from my friend's apartment
but yeah this area is not dangerous

[hexed forge]

Ever since Isaac brought it up I can't stop thinking about it lol.

Since I-rex had a sibling too.

[meager junco]

I kinda don’t want that, I want it to be more like, she sees you, she kills you, or if your in her territory , you’re done for , since indomnus was prob more of a travelling Dino since it had a bunch of different types of carnivores in her

[lethal moat]

Wonder how many employees got too comfortable with named creatures

[fast forge]

it's not a zoo, these are research subjects
probably not close

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-dinosaur-jurassic-world-camp-cretaceous-baby-dino-freshly-hatched-just-hatched-gif-18329261

[hexed forge]

Dr. Rumple please don't approach the Matriarch, thanks.

[lethal moat]

They’re able to look for intelligence somehow

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-smite-you-gif-26518458

[fast forge]

plenty of ways to do this without getting emotionally or personally attached

[hexed forge]

I could see researchers being able to get up close when the assets are still hatchlings

[meager junco]

“Just attach a laser canon onto matriarch, what could go wrong”

[lethal moat]

Yep, which is why you shouldn’t do it

[patent ginkgo]

I will do it

But only for the strain plants

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

[acoustic osprey]

don't name the dog unless you want to get attached to it

[hexed forge]

You would get emotionally attached to a plant Jolly.

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[meager junco]

I’ll do anything for Shirley! SET HER FREE!

[patent ginkgo]

This is why weeding is difficult sometimes

[hexed forge]

We still don't know if Shirlay is male or female

[fast forge]

hey now, it's not hard to get emotionally attached to a plant
they are cool

[hexed forge]

Haha

[patent ginkgo]

^

[fast forge]

I have multiple plants in my home

[meager junco]

I’m thinking female, just cause it’s probably something similar to JP rexy

[hexed forge]

Mmm likely

[meager junco]

It is a non binary name tho

So hard to know

[hexed forge]

Dean seems like it's likely a male

[patent ginkgo]

I have

7 separate plants within 5 feet of me currently

[meager junco]

If you’re parents called you dean as a girl-well my condolences

[hexed forge]

How many plants total in your entire home

[fast forge]

oh it's just junk food at my desk

[hexed forge]

While playing supermarket simulator!!

[lethal moat]

I have a cactus on the windowsill

[fast forge]

I just closed it, got boring

[patent ginkgo]

At least 25

[hexed forge]

Oh I swear your activity status just said supermark- oh

[meager junco]

I have um, grass on my yard

[hexed forge]

Jesus

[acoustic osprey]

not enough

[hexed forge]

Jolly should build a tree house in the jungle.

[acoustic osprey]

i expected more Jolly

[patent ginkgo]

I’d like to get a few more for my room

Oh wait, I forgot about a few

39 I think

[hexed forge]

Wow

[acoustic osprey]

that's better

[hexed forge]

I think I got a total of 2 plants in my home.

[meager junco]

Damn jolly just casually forgot about 14 plants

[patent ginkgo]

lol

That’s what happens when you propagate your own plants

[meager junco]

Fair, you still work at that plant place?

[patent ginkgo]

Nah

[fast forge]

I have like 16 or 17 I think

[patent ginkgo]

I just don’t like throwing away cuttings

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[fast forge]

most of them badly need repotting

[meager junco]

You’re like my cousin except with him it’s trees lolol, he sees a nice baby spruce on the side of the road and gets his shovel to bring it home

[fast forge]

depending on local laws, there is a decent chance that's illegal
(I've done it before tho)

[patent ginkgo]

That’s so real, I need to start doing that

[meager junco]

It’s not legal and he knows

[patent ginkgo]

There’s a ton of trees on my property that I can yoink

[hexed forge]

Air drop gen1s on him for comiting a crime.

[meager junco]

Rather he spread trees around than throw litter in the ditches

[hexed forge]

Fair enough haha

[meager junco]

Trees are pretty costly too iirc

But anyways lore

[hexed forge]

Yes lore

Where is my ceratosaurus lore.

[meager junco]

For once

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

I’ll agree

[hexed forge]

Yeaaaa

[acoustic osprey]

GONE

[meager junco]

We got a lot of Rex lore lately, and Rex isn’t even out

[hexed forge]

NOOOO

IMPOSSIBLE

[hexed forge]

I swear if allo gets lore and cerato doesnt...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-antony-apple-gif-23678919

[meager junco]

I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if Allo drops soon(ish) meaning like 5-6 months from now, but maybe make it so an Allo lore video has ceras in it, or hell, Carno is a Dino we really don’t see anymore in videos, despite the hate it gets, it should also pop up in a video or two in the future

[hexed forge]

Oh did you hear about the carno changes

[fast forge]

ugh that face

[meager junco]

Knew about cera changes but Carno?

[hexed forge]

Carnos size got nerfed

Iirc both weight and model size

[meager junco]

Huh

[hexed forge]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Blame @acoustic osprey for creating it!!

[meager junco]

Sooo. Now it’s gonna look even tinier next to a Rex

[hexed forge]

Haha

[meager junco]

Wth

Bro it already made Carno look troodon sized

[hexed forge]

Now imagine how big Shirley is if the Rex in-game is just a normal sized AE rex.

[meager junco]

Prob

I see Shirley as just being seen on the videos, which can just upscale the Rex model so Shirley is bigger by like a ton or two

[meager junco]

Wait-that would mean Shirley is like 10-12 tons big-Jesus

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

Yes.

[meager junco]

If she ended up as a hyper, she must’ve been a handful lol

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-shoot-her-gif-10763252

Bring out the hyper gun

[meager junco]

Honestly, I’d agree
Regular rexs under hyper are already extremely aggressive, Shirley is naturally aggressive and huge,
If we take old stats of hyper and act as if it’s evrima canon
38 tons regular hyper Rex
42-46 ton Shirley hyper Rex

[hexed forge]

Imagine Shirley was the reason for the hyper guns creation.

[meager junco]

Either a huge hyper or matriarch

Huge hyper includes colossus

[lethal moat]

Matriarch?

[hexed forge]

Dr. Rumple summoned

[meager junco]

Did we ever ask ourselves if neuro/tisso gun was a possibility

[hexed forge]

Nah

I had this theory that a certain level of radio frequencies can counter neuro strains.

[lethal moat]

If it’s an actual gun, I imagine it could work for many things

[meager junco]

If it’s more designed to kill strains than just hypers I’d rename it strain gun but that’s just me

[hexed forge]

I believe it's a chemical weapon, at least the hyper gun could be.

Chemical gas

[lethal moat]

I’d say we don’t know enough

[meager junco]

Fair,
We could also be looking at the hyper in hyper gun wrong
Maybe it’s not meant to mean hyperendocrine gun but just a gun that’s hyper powerful and can demolish almost anything in one trigger pull

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper just sounds cooler

[lethal moat]

HESH or HEAT rounds

[acoustic osprey]

like calling the large fences
Hyper Fences

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

That’s still not a set name correct? Like don is still thinking of a name for them?

[acoustic osprey]

like calling the large fences
Hyper Fences

as in what how Don refers to such

they're not actually "hyper fences"
but colloquially, it checks out

[meager junco]

Fair, just like GUTS

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[unique eagle]

What happened here?!

[lethal moat]

We got a bit of lore

[hexed forge]

Lore

[meager junco]

Shirley

[unique eagle]

Gib derg details?

[hexed forge]

Dean

[lethal moat]

Shirley has a brother

[meager junco]

Screw dean, I’ve been team Shirley for almost a year

[unique eagle]

Oh my gosh! Shirley you can't be serious?!

[hexed forge]

Team Dean as long as Dean somehow kills Shirley

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-intergalactic-quality-intergalactic-airplane-surely-shirley-gif-26796991

[unique eagle]

Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-clearance-clarence-pilot-gif-9261965

honestly surprised we were wrong with the identification for rexs though lol

[hexed forge]

Hmm elaborate

[meager junco]

I mean we had an idea that it might not mean species number

[acoustic osprey]

TYR not TRX

[meager junco]

Oh that

[hexed forge]

Oh lol

[meager junco]

I lowkey like that more ngl, the one you thought of TRX

[hexed forge]

I guess it kind of makes sense that it was TYR

TRX looked cooler tho and more recognizable 😔

[meager junco]

Agreed

[hexed forge]

But oh well, we gotta go with TYR now

[meager junco]

And you can somewhat say the name with those initials TReX

[meager junco]

Reminds me, brb

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit
SHIRLEY's whole identification is interesting

[hexed forge]

Is it?

[acoustic osprey]

being that it is the same as AUGUSTUS
so 12-S may not be fully of what we thought we knew

[hexed forge]

What did we think 12-S means?

[acoustic osprey]

we knew Don referred to lineage and location

but from what we theorised that to mean for "12-S"
might not be

[hexed forge]

S being location?

And 12 being lineage?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

S makes sense
looking at Jungle 'I' Sec. for example
or Highlands J Sec

[hexed forge]

Mhm

But then the lineage part

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/animation-disney-movies-the-emperors-new-groove-kronk-gif-14836333

[acoustic osprey]

Now we know both Augustus and Shirley had "12"

That's the confusing part

However
Lineage can mean many things

[lethal moat]

Timing maybe

[meager junco]

Maybe EIP related? Possibly the 12th EIP injection subjects?

[hexed forge]

Wonder if it's tied to EIPs

Yeahh-no-but yes

I was thinking of something different

[meager junco]

I didn’t even see you wrote under the same idea

[acoustic osprey]

or 12-S and Lineage and location are more linked

lineage could refer to something along the line of, kinda what Rump said, the timing of these creations

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

however
S is interesting

these creatures made on Britain?

[hexed forge]

Where the heck did you get Britain from

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/e1d9c2b39314f2ef8c4abc30ca034928

[hexed forge]

OH LOL

Hahah

[meager junco]

Maybe
Idk stupid idea. Maybe the TYr12-s.003 means tyrannosaurus 12, injection 3 of the same profile aka Shirley , as I’m sure they don’t just get injected into one Dino for their entire contract

[hexed forge]

I mean- it's possible.

[acoustic osprey]

that's the only location really matching with S on the map

does make sense to have your creation facility separate from the main island

[hexed forge]

It's possible yeah

But then would everything be made on S.

[acoustic osprey]

Don has said that the meaning behind the words are lineage and location, in a stream

[hexed forge]

Or could there be another creation facility in perimeter, or any of the domes.

[acoustic osprey]

the thing is though, even if not, why do AUGUSTUS and SHIRLEY share the same identification?

HRS.12-S.174
TYR.12-S.003

[hexed forge]

The only interesting part is the 12 part really

[hexed forge]

I like how there have been a totally of 174 Herreras made

[lethal moat]

12-S could be location.003 could be lineage

[hexed forge]

I doubt that

[meager junco]

So both would’ve been injected in the same spot

[acoustic osprey]

they refer to AUGUSTUS as both 174 and AUGUSTUS
so I doubt "003" would be lineage

[hexed forge]

Yeah same

[meager junco]

There is the fact that both Shirley and Augustus aren’t far from each other at least it seems that way in the Augustus video

[hexed forge]

I have 0 ideas on what the 12 could actually be.

[acoustic osprey]

which would make sense for "S"
but 12?

at least
presuming S = location

[unique eagle]

o.===.o Dangit it's nothing nevermind. They were not victor-vectors.

[hexed forge]

But also West access and NW ridge were said to be human areas sooo uh.

I wonder if Shirley was in a containment facility, and not actually roaming freely( At that time)

[meager junco]

Tbf, Augustus might’ve not even taken place in that area, we just think that’s where it was filmed but it could’ve been somewhere else

The areas are just extremely similar

[acoustic osprey]

(matches with the canon grid though...)

[hexed forge]

GW_H4 is in west access!!

[meager junco]

IK! I’m just saying it’s a possibility, I don’t think we ever got actual confirmation that’s where they filmed it

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/its-not-real-dwayne-johnson-seven-bucks-the-rock-its-not-the-truth-gif-20130196

[hexed forge]

I mean, its weird to state the location to be H4 in lore. But then just scrap that and it turns out to not even be H4.

UNLESS

GW_H4 follows that weird GW_F5 grid

[lethal moat]

I’m betting it does

[hexed forge]

The matriarch is not real

[meager junco]

Even then, there’s no other cliffs in that area that match up

[hexed forge]

And I hate that.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jail-right-to-jail-right-away-parks-and-recreation-parks-and-rec-gif-16177531

[hexed forge]

It likely does follow that weird F5 grid... more than likely I would say..
And I don't like that one bit..

[acoustic osprey]

The Matriarch is just a bedtime story to scare the children...

[hexed forge]

^

[meager junco]

We need some strain lore

[lethal moat]

You scare children

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523282321303142400/1209905095433650186/melon.gif

[meager junco]

WOAH

[hexed forge]

Ultimate comeback from Isaac

Watermelon Cat counter

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

Said the liar

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-jumpscare-jump-fall-animal-gif-11415143013926375079

[hexed forge]

Good morning

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-confused-gif-7441776660901104597

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[meager junco]

When do you start school cera

[hexed forge]

September

Pray for the NV rework to come out so I can enjoy it fully before hell

[meager junco]

Still time for loring

[acoustic osprey]

i finish Uni on Halloween funnily enough

[hexed forge]

Aye

[meager junco]

Spooky

[hexed forge]

Just in time for the lore video!!

[meager junco]

Wonder if this is the year we get that Halloween update

[hexed forge]

I could see the Hordetest starting on Halloween

Since we possibly could get 3 new dinos...

[meager junco]

I meant like an actual Halloween event

[hexed forge]

Oh, likely not lol

[meager junco]

Was talked about like 2 years ago, and just hasn’t happened yet

[acoustic osprey]

i mean

AUGUSTUS was released on Halloween basically
so who knows!

[meager junco]

Maybe, Ik we usually get something around Halloween

[hexed forge]

Loreee

[meager junco]

Dean stinky

[lethal moat]

Shirley smelly

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/racoon-screaming-aaaaaaaaaaaaa-rage-gif-27241414

[acoustic osprey]

maybe even a lore hunt!

[lethal moat]

Hopefully

[hexed forge]

The new lore video might be Dean and Shirley sparring ngl. And then they go onto either hunting a Maia herd or taking down a trike.

Basically the entire video just monitoring their behavior

[knotty locust]

a sibling feud before deciding on having takeaway maia burgers for dinner

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

see Shirley break some fences!!

[meager junco]

Mhm, like I said, hoping it’s kinda like the dibble video where you see them as hatchlings and grow up, but not in the same spots like dibble did, filming them when they’re young on the west side, then filming them when they’re subs in the Center of the island, then later on, prob will be separated as I’d assume rexs would go solo to find a mate to pair with

[hexed forge]

Nuh uh

[hexed forge]

Mmm perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

why

[lethal moat]

They’re both replicator made right? Not actual siblings

[meager junco]

Oh and don’t forget the Dean incident

[acoustic osprey]

depends on how they're made via the replicator

[hexed forge]

I don't know, I just wanted to say nuh uh

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

I just saw same clutch, so I’d assume it’s siblings , even if they aren’t from the same parent, they were made at the same time in the same batch, but yeh ig technically wouldn’t be actual siblings

[hexed forge]

They are from the same "clutch"

The replicator could just make eggs. And then AE goes onto growing them in a vat or just incubate the eggs

[meager junco]

Feel like that’s a big process for nothing when you can just grow them from embryo to juvie in a VAT tank

[lethal moat]

Why stop there

[meager junco]

“We gotta move this adult rex down to sector 5”
“WHY DONT WE MOVE THEM WHEN THEYRE SMALLER!?”

[acoustic osprey]

we do know they can transport rexes via helicopter...

[lethal moat]

I feel like anything larger than the smallest vats would be immobile and require better planning than that

[meager junco]

It’s still a task to do, and much less work to do when they’re smaller

[acoustic osprey]

but how much time shall they have to wait for them to grow?

[meager junco]

True but for like moving it from one spot underground to another

[acoustic osprey]

they'd definitely have to way up the costs

[acoustic osprey]

we do know the monorails were pretty large

[meager junco]

Tbf, they might have accelerated growth rate, something we kinda always forget to ask

[meager junco]

Fair

[meager junco]

Actually you got any pics of that, been a while since I’ve seen the old gateway test map monorails

[acoustic osprey]

only a picture of the tunnel size

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085583414704472185/1193754910525759508/image.png?ex=66bd72e5&is=66bc2165&hm=38ee5457e9a26b8428210abba6e3687c1129392089dc8a886876fac70a86d73c&

Massive

[meager junco]

Damn I’ll try to check in islecord through the search bar

[acoustic osprey]

the glowing white things on the right of the tracks are humans to scale

[acoustic osprey]

(rump sent it)

[meager junco]

I meant the ones that were seen ingame

[acoustic osprey]

the ones in-game aren't really all that helpful to what we know

albeit, the placeholder tunnels are small
Visual was working on ones much larger

so who knows how much has changed

[meager junco]

Oh no I didn’t want to use it for scaling or anything, I just actually wanted to see them

[meager junco]

I mean iirc, the ones ingame were decently big but not as big as in the concept rump sent

[lethal moat]

There’s the big bunker entrance

[meager junco]

The one by volcano?

Well at it lol

[lethal moat]

Yes

[meager junco]

Doesn’t seem as wide as the concept tbh, but things change like Isaac said, I wouldn’t be surprised if they aren’t that large ingame

[lethal moat]

If it’s just one train, that’s still massive for the size of the tracks

[meager junco]

Those 2 tracks would be 2 separate monorails correct?

One going one way, other one going the other way

[acoustic osprey]

yes

however
if that's a 1:1 to the current monorail track model
then no

[meager junco]

But it would generally be used for 2

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/b203aaeb9b0f8ac679c6794a2b523788
depends

this would just be one

[meager junco]

I just thought for a second that rump was saying that both tracks were for one thing , which would make that train HUGE

[meager junco]

HEY THERE THEY ARE

God smaller than I remember

But ty been a while since I seen this

[acoustic osprey]

that monorail would be the size of a normal monorail

[meager junco]

Probably just for transporting people or small shipments

[acoustic osprey]

basically like this lightrail

[meager junco]

Would be cool if there’s a few monorails just stuck on the tracks since they don’t have power

[acoustic osprey]

that or just clinging off, or even fallen near

[meager junco]

Ahhh yes, like the crate that’s clinging at docks

Makes it feel more like an abandoned island with stuff like that

[acoustic osprey]

mmmhmm

[lethal moat]

Half blocking a tunnel, have a rex move it out of the way

[meager junco]

If there’s one fully stuck on the tracks, we should be able to go through it for both looting and just because you want to get on the other side of the track

[meager junco]

Call in the Shirley crew!

[lethal moat]

Or go troodon and hop your way through

[meager junco]

Actually make monorails clearance pass 1 for the doors, no pass, no shortcut

[iron anchor]

where did the replicator being an ai come from?

[acoustic osprey]

legacy

[iron anchor]

dondi said it during legacy? or was something in a video or ingame

[lethal moat]

It can still be partially ai

[iron anchor]

i suppose if it’s a collection of systems

how much do we know about tomb

[lethal moat]

Well now we know it’s likely some sort of EIP database, that has been purged

And all those electronic minds were sadly lost

[acoustic osprey]

"User Inquiry: Definition of Trespassers
Trespasser designated to all unauthorized replicator mainframe by persons or profiles within the facility.
User Inquiry: Who else is here?
106,638 profiles and Apollo Engineering staff.
User Inquiry: System Time
8:33 AM
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All profiles submit information to the replicator.
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Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution"

Mostly along the lines of you are being monitored and designated to monitor gateway
if it's not man then it had to have been machine

and being that Replicator was a lot more versatile in legacy

[lethal moat]

The replicator likes to know what it’s projects are doing

[acoustic osprey]

just like big brother!

[lethal moat]

I am glad you liked the “replicator as an ai we can relate to with our knowledge” thingo because I think it fits so well

Gen 1 just found that niche the replicator was looking for to get those sweet augmentations

[iron anchor]

right now we think tartarus is a place? or am i outdated on that

[lethal moat]

Yes

[iron anchor]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

[iron anchor]

is tartarus still the place for where the creatures are at for storage or whatnot

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[lethal moat]

Creation/imprisonment of powerful entities matches well

[iron anchor]

ah but that’s not confirmed?

all we know for sure is there’s something called tartarus?

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

[lethal moat]

We know Tartarus relocation from Augustus video

[acoustic osprey]

we don't have a hard answer for Tartarus much

we just have to use information given from AUGUSTUS atm

[iron anchor]

ah right i forgot tartarus relocation and lineage displacement

[acoustic osprey]

which isn't much
we may not know the whole scope of Tartarus

[iron anchor]

that’s all we have on tartarus?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
basically

[lethal moat]

We have two infuriating frames from the diabloceratops video

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol

[lethal moat]

Why was it there

[iron anchor]

but that also just says tartarus relocation right?

[lethal moat]

It just says Tartarus

Nothing else

[iron anchor]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

(besides words we can't decipher)

[iron anchor]

do you have the image

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1273044037560959036/Screenshot_20240813_172159_Discord.jpg?ex=66bd2e26&is=66bbdca6&hm=37148e20f0d8c9fd2564ed0c8955232b691a435243c1cfc23e51774172931d76&

[iron anchor]

oof lol

[acoustic osprey]

which would potentially look like this

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/swarm-the-hunger-games-mockingjay-part2-attacking-horde-mutts-gif-16225271

[acoustic osprey]

the placement of the word "tartarus" is matched with where it should be in dibble video

[iron anchor]

the dinosaurs are made from scratch right

is omniraptor a combination of the dinosaurs made from scratch, or is it a dinosaur made from scratch based off of the combinations of dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

Dunno

It was nice to get confirmation the replicator isn’t just one thing rather than a magic machine that pops out fully grown dinos

[signal pivot]

Oh word.. I need to catch up badly

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Now we get to spend the last 10 minutes of the podcast debating what systems the replicator needs to function

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[median shuttle]

my theory is some guy at AE got drunk one night and fed the Replicator all the Jurassic Park movies and said "make those 'raptor' thingies"

[neon gorge]

my thoughts on the replicator and why dinosaurs might be that its starting from the beginning of time of our knowledge and going through the evolution of creatures and is at dinosaurs now

and gen 1 is what happened when they tried to make humans with the data it had at the moment or a humanoid that could survive those creatures

[median shuttle]

Future Isle DLC: Carbiniferous Era

[hexed forge]

Wait did we even get an answer as to why it said Shirley on the Errant sheet? (If it said Shirley ofc)

[acoustic osprey]

no

[strange shell]

So the replicator basically spent centuries making single-celled organisms before it started doing anything we can see ?

[hexed forge]

Something to discuss then..

[lethal moat]

I see RF

[hexed forge]

Oh wow

& RF Shirley?

Or RE

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it’s Shirley

[hexed forge]

Hmmmmm

[lethal moat]

Wonder what the chances of it being EC and RF are

[neon gorge]

maybe

[hexed forge]

After staring at this, theres a Y in the middle of the word. So I guess its not Shirley

[hexed forge]

There seems to be a

[insert] at the start

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040764168929812521/image.png?ex=66bde0ea&is=66bc8f6a&hm=7dfc0999f0ef372d8c3047fec390ea56dbb589c35814bbcadb8463d2d357a701&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040740551324086333/image.png?ex=66bdcaeb&is=66bc796b&hm=23984bbfc0234826d7037c6feac9cb1078093a42ea92366723aa4d50d0d94130&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040639424008028223/image-1.png?ex=66bd6cbc&is=66bc1b3c&hm=30b8ef645d88577ec8554041e3b10207f46fb6b2277c912bb61b7ae4541d6a7b&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040641758377299978/image.png?ex=66bd6ee9&is=66bc1d69&hm=8faeaef9cbaf3bdd38adf3129b40577e06710a3ecab7c2a8101adafbfa22714e&

collected a bunch of old stuff from when the page dropped
so take what you can with caution. It's old now.

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

Interesting

First location and RF Site

oh AE Site

I dont see an A, instead I see an R

[acoustic osprey]

Site-12 ?

[hexed forge]

Seems too big for a 12

A lot of leftover space

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

Also what if its starts with a

[ ]

[hexed forge]

Referring to this

[fast forge]

tbh when Don first gave us those abbreviations, it felt like he had only recently come up with them

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fast forge]

oh wow

I wasn't sure which way it would go, but I was leaning toward the idea of events

But this sounds fun too

[iron anchor]

didn’t it have something to do with mutations or eldering or am i misremembering

in legacy, the plan was to find things across the map that would trigger the strain right?

or actually i think that might’ve been a rumor

[meager junco]

Think that’s just theories on how well get them, nothing officially said

[iron anchor]

ah ok

[meager junco]

But it’s probably how we’ll get them, unless there’s a special feature just for strains, I’d assume we acquire them through mutations, a certain amount of things to do like “kill 10 adult Dino’s” that’s just an example and also can only be attained if you reached your elder status, if you missed it and went to senior, you lost the strain chance

[low scarab]

Hype

[low scarab]

What have we heard about the rats again?

[bold crater]

Uuuh they're gonna be AI around human areas. Pretty much it I think.
We saw a preview of the model once.

[low scarab]

I thought we heard something small about them lore wise

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

Not that I know of

[fast forge]

Heightened Ghrelin for Hypers
Cellular Regeneration for Tissos
Infrasound Communication for Neuros
(just speculation)

[low scarab]

Huh maybe I’m wrong

[fast forge]

I don't remember anything with rats and lore

[bold crater]

Ya know if it just requires certain mutations to get a strain, those will be the ONLY mutations ever used huehue

[low scarab]

Well keep in mind the mutation system as a whole is yet to have more built upon it

[bold crater]

Very true

[lethal moat]

All the mutations on all the animals all the way maxed out via elders

Make em work

[fast forge]

yeah the mutation system is basically in the earliest stages

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

10 shmeckles says lorecord accidentally discovers how to get a strain and we have to dig backwards to find out how to uncover it

[hexed forge]

Imagine

[lethal moat]

If it’s super complex and we try everything we think of and end up getting it, there’s likely some stuff we’ll have to shift through

I hope it’s complex, find all of a certain TSL event

[bold crater]

I recall Don long ago saying if people found it out right away, he'd personally go back and redo it lmao

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/that-sounds-like-a-challenge-william-zabka-johnny-lawrence-cobra-kai-looks-l-ike-a-challenge-gif-18572487

[bold crater]

[hexed forge]

Or imagine a new player somehow unlocks it, and they dont even have discord to tell anyone.

[bold crater]

I can already see people trying to datamine the game to figure it out

[hexed forge]

The new player will probably think its normal

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

"Oh cool, I'm all jellyfishy! Wait, am I controlling weather???"

[lethal moat]

That’s going to suck

[bold crater]

I hope Neuros when they speak to other species, it's all.....weird.

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

I actually have an example mockup I made once, hold on

Not amazing but just something spooky. Tunnel vision, muffled weird bassy sounds, just stuff to make it seem like your head is being messed with.

Then you see their message all oOOooOOooh on the screen.

[hexed forge]

Legacy dev announcement.

[bold crater]

Cause like ya know.....telepathy....
unless they don't have that to which uh woops

[bold crater]

Yeah pretty much that kinda spook factor!

[hexed forge]

mhm

[bold crater]

Just a sudden "wait what the heck is happenin-wh....."start running????" WHO SAID THIS???"

[hexed forge]

Ima actually try and find a clip of that so I can use it in my discussions

[bold crater]

Would be even cooler if cross species communication only allowed simple words matched together like Dark Souls.
Would be weird seeing this spooky effect but then see a regular full sentence. Or worse.....leet speak.

[lethal moat]

“You’re my friend now, we’re getting soft tacos later”

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

Seeing it as a human would be so much worse lol

[patent ginkgo]

Mixpacker!

[bold crater]

M a n that's really unsettling to think of Neuros being intelligent enough to speak to p e o p l e

[lethal moat]

Forceful abduction

[lethal moat]

I hope so

[bold crater]

Would be even freakier if they get a cool echo-sight kinda vision (a little doubtful since people like to complain a LOT about visual stuff seemingly).
But imagine hiding from an N-Spino who knows you're there, but just doesn't see EXACTLY where....so it just sniffs around.....stalking.
Tells you it heard you....
You can't run, too much noise. What do you do???

Maybe cheesy, but it's my kind of cheesy.

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1219346714587304077/The_Isle_Lore.gif

[lethal moat]

It sees the electricity in your brain

[hexed forge]

What the heck is that image

[lethal moat]

Glowing mc zombie

Maybe just glowing nerves would be cooler

[bold crater]

Oh snap I forgot about the possibility of electroreception

T u r n o f f t h e b a s e

[lethal moat]

Shark bait who who ha

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/shark-finding-nemo-bruce-grin-grinning-gif-27437427

[lethal moat]

If neuros are sensitive to electricity, what if we just

https://tenor.com/view/electric-tazer-gif-15632411

[bold crater]

Anti-Hyper Weapon: Hinders cellular regeneration immensely, preventing Hyperendocrins from rapidly healing injuries and making them easier to dispatch with more conventional weapons

Anti-Neuro Weapon: lmao taser

[lethal moat]

Tisso weapon: put it in a smol box (this is a joke, but I imagine rapid regeneration if you don’t have room for it would be painful)

[lethal moat]

Just make sure they don’t turn it off first

[hexed forge]

What if you can counter Neuros with a high radio frequency level

[lethal moat]

Be neat

[hexed forge]

Matriarch:

Just evolves its shape to fit in.

[lethal moat]

I a m t h e b o x

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[bold crater]

Ya know, it makes me wonder how AE managed to test on stuff like Hyperendocrins since they die super fast.

[hexed forge]

Feed them

[bold crater]

Still hungy

[hexed forge]

Feed them more

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

My current headcanon is that they keep them in an XL tank their whole life in some sort of hibernation with feeding tubes managing their lower metabolsim

[hexed forge]

I wonder if this ui will get changed too, specifically the mutations UI.

Since the current mutations UI seems like a mess

[low scarab]

the current mutation ui just feels like a mockup its incomplete and pretty bland but yea with all they have planned for mutations I would expect them to have plans to change it especially since most ui is going to be redone at some point\

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[low scarab]

i would like to hear what they have planned so far for the future of mutations

[acoustic osprey]

Mmm

[lethal moat]

I am curious to know if our idea of gen 1’s gameplay being to acquire mutations from the replicator is accurate

[fast forge]

agreed

[hexed forge]

It would be really cool if that was the case, a way to make it different from dinosaur gameplay

[lethal moat]

An in-between

[hexed forge]

yep

[low scarab]

That and I want to know if ae is fighting with gen 1 to be the replicators favorite

[lethal moat]

Survive better I guess

[hexed forge]

Why would the replicator choose favorites?

[low scarab]

We already know it does?

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[low scarab]

Why I’m not sure some level of sentience I guess

[hexed forge]

Did I miss something from yesterday

I looked over Dev-Quotes, I didnt see anything in there that indicates that.

[low scarab]

Not from yesterday it’s old lore

[hexed forge]

oh

Then its not confirmed for Evrima

[low scarab]

Could be legacy for all I know (not 100% certain) but dondi did say the replicator chooses favorites and proceeded to show the gen 1 sacrificial pit thing

[lethal moat]

Or it gives preferential treatment to those that do things that help it

I firmly believe it’s just a machine and not alive

[hexed forge]

Mmm, not sure if it would be a thing in evrima. Only time will tell.

[hexed forge]

Just doing x task that it was designed to do.

[lethal moat]

X task may constitute a lot of things, but yes, that’s my belief

[low scarab]

I want to disagree I think a machine that gained sentience (similar to the dinosaurs gaining sentience through mutating and getting smarter) is a cool idea especially if it’s picking and choosing it doesn’t entirely confirm anything but I find it convincing to some degree

[low scarab]

A good chunk of what we know about the replicator is from legacy

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-ragnarok-is-it-though-you-sure-gif-15702677

Replace "Is it though" with "Do we though?"

[low scarab]

lol

[lethal moat]

Well the replicator isn’t just a singular thing

[hexed forge]

It needs multiple systems to function properly

[low scarab]

I think what he meant is that the replicator refers to all of those systems

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[low scarab]

And I think somewhere in there some sort of eip maybe a developed one but something close to that

[lethal moat]

The artificial intelligence can’t make dinosaurs without the dinosaur machines

If it is necessary for function, I consider it a part of the thing

[hexed forge]

What rumple said ^

[low scarab]

I’m not disagreeing with you I’m just saying that the replicator is everything connected as a network

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-watchingyou-gif-18126667

[hexed forge]

But the Replicator and TOMB are seperate things

[low scarab]

[low scarab]

Tomb is a piece of the replicator?

[hexed forge]

So they all cant be "The Replicator"

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[low scarab]

This

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[hexed forge]

I dont think so

[lethal moat]

Just because the replicator might be capable of making beings without EIPs doesn’t mean we know what the replicator’s final goal is

[fast forge]

A system is composed of multiple parts

[low scarab]

I’m not saying I know what it’s goal is

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1273080069287575572/image.png?ex=66bdf875&is=66bca6f5&hm=65e2ac6ecd5b7538ce26216eede764fb97b911b34a8bbc0ff6ddd45d1a48ee63& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1273080334119862404/image.png?ex=66bdf8b4&is=66bca734&hm=8476d5e7858853d607ef51c55fab39000744b2099faccf558f1bafcf82e62e57&

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm

[lethal moat]

Sucks the TOMB was purged though, might affect the Replicator’s ability to do it’s job properly

[low scarab]

Lore braining goes crazy

[low scarab]

Yes leads to some interesting ideas

[fast forge]

or caused the errant behavior in the first place

[lethal moat]

We should probably ask if the purging of the TOMB was part of “the incident”

[hexed forge]

The incidents* iirc

Its not just 1 big thing.

[low scarab]

Most likely yea

[lethal moat]

It’s multiple things, but it led to the evacuation/abandonment of the isle, so until we get a better name, I collectively refer to them as the events of “the incident”

[hexed forge]

👍

[lethal moat]

Henceforth known as “the great migration away from the scary thing”

[hexed forge]

I assume by "The Island" you are referring to Gateway. But then I dont think Gateway was the only island evacuted/abondoned, it could be multiple island that were abondoned during "The Incident".

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[low scarab]

I would sign the thousand life contract to have seiza make some freaky cinematic lore film of the incident showcasing people flooding off the island sos sounds going off all the various monster killing people that would be absolutely amazing

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/a-quiet-place-a-quiet-place-part-2-a-quiet-place-2-monster-boat-gif-2903683188481236296

[hexed forge]

The Matriarch was the incident... always was... and we just never knew...

[lethal moat]

pLEASE

[low scarab]

That would be so epic

I hope dondi is getting ideas and has seiza cook something up lore wise

[hexed forge]

Just imagine the Matriarch in its final form emerging from the ground.. or a mountain/volcano...

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-king-of-the-monsters-rodan-emerge-volcano-gif-24997870

[low scarab]

Her cinematics and all could make a really good lore drop without putting anything in game although they would need animations and actually have modeled gen 1 etc

[hexed forge]

Halloween video soonTM

[low scarab]

Hype

[hexed forge]

The morse code in the recent trailer was a nice easter egg

[low scarab]

It was

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Wait did we even tell Don that we solved it..

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

It’s not significant, so I don’t think so, but it is a nice little thing to watch out for in the future

[fast forge]

I said something when he was in #isle-discussion , but he didn't respond to me so I dunno if he saw it

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

I guess we shouldnt bother him with the question tho

On the topic of Shirley,

What does the 12 mean in the identification.

TYR.12-S.003 [Shirley] (Something like that, I cant remember it off the top of my head)

Same Identification as AUGUSTUS

The middle part

[lethal moat]

Location or time is my guess

[hexed forge]

Location is the S

Or atleast its likely to be the S.

S sector perhaps being the Southeast island on Gateway

But how would the time make sense?

The month? Year?

[fast forge]

this couldn't be Shirley #003?

[lethal moat]

Or a Facility with S as a designation or shorthand https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=66be5a81&is=66bd0901&hm=68ec4a536ed477d5629a40d9e188eafefc539bc1a204e833177753bed695cf20&

[fast forge]

S.003

[hexed forge]

No.

[hexed forge]

No S on the errant sheet

[lethal moat]

Not in that facility, but what about others?

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

We can be sure of one thing I guess, Shirley and Augustus were made/incubated in the same location.

[fast forge]

why not?