isle-lore-theories

[fast forge]

well...

I'm attempting to do it methodically, and my results so far are striking

[lethal moat]

Do tell

[fast forge]

well I found a site that lets me go frame by frame

It seemed hard to watch the video and decide if there were long or short notes, so I decided to count frames to see if any are markedly longer or shorter than each other

So far I've counted frames for eight dewlap flashes

[lethal moat]

You can also press . or , to move by a single frame in youtube

[fast forge]

I like the button on screen

[lethal moat]

Fair

[fast forge]

I had set myself a rule to count any change in dewlap at all, even the bit of light at the beginning and end of the flash
I assumed my data points would be fairly random if someone is just kinda clicking the mouse

6

12

6

6

12

12

12

6

the long flashes were exactly double the number of frames of the short flashes

which seems similar to the short and long notes in morse code to me

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

If it actually means something, you deserve an award or something

[fast forge]

it wasn't my idea to check for morse code

[hexed forge]

It was @kindred bobcat s idea

[kindred bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[icy onyx]

guys, here’s my theroy on cannibals or the eyeless:

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/all-ears-hear-out-im-listening-attentive-hearken-gif-22832705

[zenith frigate]

I did it differently
2 pulses for a dot, 3 for a dash, 1 for a space
2 3 3 3 3 1 2 3
Translates to 1A

I could have counted wrong though so someone double check please

[hexed forge]

1A....

[icy onyx]

Apollo engineering had massive success creating the isle’s dinosaurs. Especially with the hypo, and and possibly tisso and neuronic strains. So, the took this a step further. Why stop at dinosaurs? They started to engineer humans. Hypo and neuro are possibly to dangerous, so tisso see,ed like the safest option. After going through massive genetic tests, they did it, and made the first cannibal (they have to be made from humans, otherwise they wouldn’t be called cannabils). However, the cannibal escaped, and then set free most of the dinosaurs, causing the downfall of Apollo engineering. To this day, the residents of the Isle have lived in fear of the eyeless ones. And if theyre able to procreate, lord have mercy 💀💀🙏🙏

[lethal moat]

I feel like gen 1 potentially came before strains, gen 1 aren’t made from humans, they’re maid by the replicator, there’s apparently multiple events that made AE leave gateway, I don’t believe gen 1 are on gateway, I think AE is still around (even if they aren’t on the island(s)),and as far as we know, they can’t procreate

And I get the feeling “The Eyeless” potentially might not have existed when AE was in control

[zenith frigate]

Reason I'm not liking this is cause on the second scene with the Herreras they use 4 flashes sometimes.
Making me think there is no morse code at all

gonna look some more though

[fast forge]

I got for the first shot with herrera:
6 12 6 6 12 12 12 6 6 5 12 6 6 6 12 5 6 6 6
.-..---...-...-....

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/he-has-a-point-gif-21949559

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[lethal moat]

Yippie

[fast forge]

it needs spaces

[icy onyx]

Guys, something wild has happened

kissenkitten responded to my work..

[crystal cairn]

!!! nice! now I need a link to the work...

[icy onyx]

#isle-fan-art message

[crystal cairn]

oh this might be the wrong channel at that lol

very cute though!

[patent ginkgo]

Lore…

I also thought this was #isle-discussion

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[icy onyx]

thanks!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

[lethal moat]

Congrats!

[zenith frigate]

it says agustus

the code says agustus

[lethal moat]

No way really?

[hexed forge]

No way

Actually

Well the correct way to spell it is AUGUSTUS

Did you miss a U

[zenith frigate]

.-/..-/--./..-/.../-/./...
AUGUSTES
the E might just be me counting wrong i'll look again

[lethal moat]

That’s a cool easter egg

[hexed forge]

Holy crap

@kindred bobcat

We have accomplished an amazing thing

[lethal moat]

Cerato, fact check Jack for me, if he’s messing with us, he gets the spray bottle

[zenith frigate]

lol first scene with the herreras watch in half speed

[hexed forge]

I dont know morse code

[zenith frigate]

the pulses are differerent lengths

[zenith frigate]

i learned this 5 minutes ago

[lethal moat]

Google is a good resource, but I’ll do it myself later if you don’t want to

[zenith frigate]

I think the E is correct btw

just recounted and its the same

[hexed forge]

Maybe Seiza made a mistake

I dont think her first language is english so maybe.

[fast forge]

ITS MORSE CODE

[hexed forge]

YEYEYEYE

[fast forge]

dammit

I was late...

[zenith frigate]

you were closer than me initially

[hexed forge]

Hahahaa

[zenith frigate]

your method was correct

[hexed forge]

YEYEYEYEYEYE

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-great-discovery-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-discovery-important-discovery-gif-22234330

When Don is in chat tell him that we discovered the easter egg

[fast forge]

so it's AUGUSTES?

[lethal moat]

Looks like it

[fast forge]

I don't think that's a misspelling, I think that's latin
But I don't really know latin

or Greek?

[lethal moat]

That is a very cool easter egg though

[hexed forge]

indeed

[lethal moat]

@zenith frigate Tiny saved you from the squirt bottle, well done both if you

[zenith frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-meme-dancing-cat-white-cat-meme-gif-24092585

[fast forge]

wow, I'm excited

[zenith frigate]

great now i have to look through the rest of the video

[hexed forge]

Honestly I think its something to announce in lorecord without the announcement ping. @lethal moat

[lethal moat]

Bet

[zenith frigate]

one of the herreras says hi in the next scene

..../..

[hexed forge]

hi....help...me...

(Just my headcannon)

I will still believe that AUGUSTUS the EIP was suffering and was begging for help

[acoustic osprey]

Should be Augustus in latin

[fast forge]

pretty sure it's an E, hard to confuse with U in morse
E = .
U = ..-

[hexed forge]

Awesome discovery

[hexed forge]

Credit Tiny and Jack tho

[lethal moat]

For sure

[zenith frigate]

i might have found another something but gimme a minute

[hexed forge]

uh oh

And here I was thinking that the trailer will not have any lore/easter eggs lol

[acoustic osprey]

Then someone did an oopsy on the trailer

[hexed forge]

AUGUSTUS

[zenith frigate]

thats what i was thinking lol
but the one in the back i dont think is code

[lethal moat]

AYYYY

[hexed forge]

Jack is the "Hi" a mistake?

[zenith frigate]

no there are 3 herreras
the one in front says HI
the one in middle says TUS
The one in back says nothing I think

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-uhh-cat-sus-sus-cat-weird-stare-gif-1962087747498177879

So does it say AUGUSTUS or not

[zenith frigate]

this is from the second scene

the first scene with one herrera says augustes

[hexed forge]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

So that one is correcting the other herrerasaurus

[hexed forge]

LOL

[zenith frigate]

lmao

[fast forge]

or we enter the shot midway through the word

[hexed forge]

mmmm, probably

But it would be really funny if its like

"Jimmy you spelt it wrong you dumbo"

[fast forge]

oh wow it def says hi

[hexed forge]

Interesting

Ok ima just look into the trailer frame by frame incase we missed something else lol

Better be safe than sorry..

I was already wrong about there being no morse code

[fast forge]

If it's anything in this shot, it's just the letter T

[hexed forge]

Theres also a scene with Herreras on a tree that is on a cliff, I think there was some dwellap action in there. Not sure.

[zenith frigate]

there wasnt

[hexed forge]

aw

[zenith frigate]

also Tiny do you also notice that the far back herrera has a weird pulse

it might just be that its head moved

[fast forge]

In the shot with "TUS" and "HI"?

[zenith frigate]

yes

[fast forge]

I actually didn't examine that one at all

[hexed forge]

[zenith frigate]

the more i look the more it seems like its just turning its head

rip

it either says KT or KE

[fast forge]

a single herrera opens it's dewlap in that shot, but it comes and goes so fast that it can't really be saying anything

[hexed forge]

Hopefully it doesnt say anything

[fast forge]

at best it would be like

T

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[hexed forge]

It's either

1. The funny version of the other Herrera correcting him.
2. Just a typo perhaps

I want the funny version

[valid geyser]

Would make sense if it’s the funny version and the third guy was just there going “hi!”

[hexed forge]

The Herrera friend group

1. The dumb one that makes typos, acts before thinking.
2. The smart one that is the brain of the group.
3. The forgotten one

[lethal moat]

And they all know isle lore to the point they morse code Augustus

[valid geyser]

Yeah it’s lore people obviously

[hexed forge]

What if they are all AUGUSTUS offspring

[acoustic osprey]

Technically augusti

That must be the german version though, in the trailer

If it is actually auguste

[hexed forge]

Seiza is German iirc

[acoustic osprey]

Yes she is

[hexed forge]

Yea

Fun Easter egg

[acoustic osprey]

Unless the herrera is just calling the dilo a clown

[hexed forge]

HAHAHA

Imagine

[acoustic osprey]

. !!!!

[kindred bobcat]

I AM A GOD

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/genius-very-smart-amazed-impressed-ryan-reynolds-gif-17243241

[kindred bobcat]

NO ONE IS NEAR MY INTELLECT

[acoustic osprey]

Why

[hexed forge]

Mmm

265

[kindred bobcat]

Ask dondi next time he is in here

[acoustic osprey]

Sure

[acoustic osprey]

265

[hexed forge]

I thought it was ERRANT 295

Just the number

[acoustic osprey]

291

[hexed forge]

Oh

Almost the same

[kindred bobcat]

What if it’s August, like smt is coming in August except for this update

[zenith frigate]

next hordetest in 5 minutes WOOOOOOOOO

confirmed

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[fast forge]

Next HT is soon, so... maybe?
#isle-discussion message

[hexed forge]

Since we are kind of in the AUGUSTUS mood.

Let's start some AUGUSTUS theory crafting.

Was the Herrera that appeared in the live MCam section AUGUSTUS or the natural offspring of AUGUSTUS

[patent ginkgo]

This is peak lore

[lethal moat]

I feel like it definitely makes most sense for it to be actual AUGUSTUS

[patent ginkgo]

I just got the news on AUGUSTES

[patent ginkgo]

Honestly, I think it might just be an offspring

Or replication

[hexed forge]

I believe that too

Actually I'm not sure

I was going to say that the AUGUSTUS information screen only said that he was set for entombment and replication. So he could stillbe in the wild at that time

But, the next section says that there are already replications

It's probably either a replication or an offspring, just like Jolly said

[lethal moat]

That was compiled after the footage was recorded

I feel like it’s safe to assume it’s AUGUSTUS, since it refers to it as such

[hexed forge]

Why?

Expand on your points on why you think it's AUGUSTUS

[lethal moat]

I’ll do that when I’m off work

[patent ginkgo]

Fair ‘nuff

[hexed forge]

Ight, might be asleep by then so I will read it tomorrow.

[lethal moat]

They ID it as Augustus

And he’s the only one documented to climb

[hexed forge]

In the live footage, not the report.

The live recording with the dryo

[hexed forge]

His replications and offspring were able to climb too

Says it at the end of the first paragraph

[lethal moat]

That’s part of the report

[hexed forge]

It's not

The report ends, and the user clicks on the MCam system of H4.

[lethal moat]

He likely doesn’t have natural offspring at the time of the video, since it only mentions it after the research is re-based around climbing, he only had kids afterwards

[hexed forge]

It says he had kids tho, at the moment of that report being submitted. AUGUSTUS had offspring and replications

[acoustic osprey]

Nah
That refers to being live feed

[acoustic osprey]

That doesn't make sense

[lethal moat]

In that case, the dryo portion is likely an unrelated herrera, but it doesn’t matter to anything whatsoever wether it is or isn’t Augustus or a descendant

[hexed forge]

Its just a nice thing to discuss and know about. It's likely a replication of AUGUSTUS or an offspring

Hell likely an offspring seeing as how they have the same skin.

(I do not believe replications have the same skins and patterns)

[kindred bobcat]

Augustus video is 9 months old🤯

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ice-cube-waitwhat-wait-what-gif-3463862

[kindred bobcat]

All isle stuff is divided up into pre 6.5(ancient grandpa stuff) and post 6.5 which is new and cool

But 6.5 is over a year old now

[acoustic osprey]

It's more than likely to be an offspring

[hexed forge]

Agreed

[patent ginkgo]

Watched an old 6.5 video yesterday for nostalgia

[lethal moat]

Lets talk about something with more substance and relevance, like TOMB and vats (I still want these)

[kindred bobcat]

I miss the super old look of spiro and stuff

[hexed forge]

Dondi said soon... soon.... soon....soon ...
TM....

[acoustic osprey]

The coincedience is large that a herrerasaurus just so happened to be there
But it might have been a nest site

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[lethal moat]

Theendisnever

[kindred bobcat]

Like current one is cool, but man og evrima looks and visuals had something special

[hexed forge]

Probably AUGUSTUS nested near by yeah

[acoustic osprey]

But we know the live was not part of the summary file

Being that it stopped the USER moved to see the live mcam system at h4

[hexed forge]

Yes

Wonder if it was all a coincidence that a Herrera happened to be there or the user somehow knew there was something outside of H4.

Likely a coincidence

[lethal moat]

“How did these cameras get damaged? Better check the footage”

[hexed forge]

Reality: " I was begging for help"

[lethal moat]

Nah, I got too silly

[acoustic osprey]

||that's for the first section though, in the second paragraph, it then refers to all replications and natural offspring replicate such behaviour||

[lethal moat]

At a future date, after the production is rebased

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[lethal moat]

Yes, I suppose it could have been natural offspring

But it would have been at a later date

[acoustic osprey]

which would be closer to when the video actually takes place though (in terms of the live)

[lethal moat]

I guess I just assumed the Dryo portion was an extension of what was already shown, rather than a different video in the future from the other videos

[acoustic osprey]

timeline would go like this:

AUGUSTUS climbs -> Be's silly at the fences -> AE notices and identifies -> Takes AUGUSTUS and update herrerasaurus development on his template -> therefore replications replicate such behaviour / & meanwhile AUGUSTUS has natural off-spring while kept in "X" location that also replicate such behaviour

[acoustic osprey]

it's fair to assume such
easily missed upon on the context of the USER opening up the live

[lethal moat]

I don’t think that it’s all important tbh, I’ll take your guys’ guesses over mine

[acoustic osprey]

guesses!!!

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/20a6664138ed717f2278749cc53490fb

looks exactly like something from legacy, hold on

https://imgur.com/a/KHy4v

reminds me almost of this building in this old gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

If gen 2 are able to seal off buildings/tunnels/lock fences, and you have food and water, what reason would they have to leave
||I really hope PDAs have some sort of objective or mission system for rewards||

[zenith frigate]

beat 1 baby dryo to death for an RPG

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rules-are-simple-saturday-night-live-not-that-hard-easy-rules-ez-gif-21183117

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/872bd72d7d89de0efa458b5367e06862

interesting description of nested animals
"wild born"

[lethal moat]

“Not chipped dinosaurs got life easy”

Reactivating the chip tracking system does seem like a good task for gen 2, provided you can access it from the PDA

[acoustic osprey]

I'd like for us to re-chip players

only problem is though
how do you get people to stop griefing?

that's if they allow us to see the chiptracking map

[lethal moat]

Have PDAs have poor battery life, access it mostly from computers in bases

[acoustic osprey]

just use Discord or in-game radio with a buddy

[lethal moat]

Radio would be sick

[acoustic osprey]

mmmhm

[lethal moat]

“Jim there are 3 rexes moving right at you”
Those rexes are in the GUTS system under Jim, but they don’t know that

[wraith maple]

theres one from the cretaceous that was assumed to have feathers and climb

and some itterations of illustrations assumed it might glide

[lethal moat]

The isle doesn’t have real dinos

[wraith maple]

real

[lethal moat]

We’re talking about the lore video

[wraith maple]

real..

[stone quarry]

cuh whatchu mean you changed my name

[lethal moat]

We don’t allow italics in names, so I just made your name a normal font

[stone quarry]

why dont yall allow that man

[lethal moat]

Makes moderation more difficult when trying to find people

[stone quarry]

oh thats wassup

[lethal moat]

Can GUTS be completely sealed off to create a massive bunker network?

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't doubt such honestly

might be why ERRANT-291 didn't really get the chance to escape

and also makes sense for dinos

don't want them walking willy nilly in the tunnels

especially dark

[lethal moat]

It’s night time, close the garage door

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

don't forget to take the trash out, though, Jimmy

[lethal moat]

Craig the forklift operator is getting home late

[acoustic osprey]

lol

long day at work

[lethal moat]

He’s literally me

[acoustic osprey]

^^

[clear crystal]

Did y’all rlly just crack that

There’s Morse code in the video and y’all figured that out? R u kidding me?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

[lethal moat]

We’re passionate about lore

[acoustic osprey]

had to check when I got home
Basically confirmed with AUGUSTUS and Hi
the herrera in the back basically said jargon though

[clear crystal]

I see that so much that y’all’s brains have swelled 10x

[acoustic osprey]

lore...

[lethal moat]

I definitely think there’s something there we’re missing

[acoustic osprey]

i don't think so honestly

nice little easter egg!!!

I looked through the video again frame by frame though
nothing really else noticeable

[clear crystal]

Buts it cool my brain is also 10x, my distinguished fellow gentleman.

[lethal moat]

Doesn’t have to be significant, but I think that dude in the back is saying something

[acoustic osprey]

unless something's really really dark that needs to be super contrasted

[clear crystal]

Has dondi put more in before and confirmed that he does?

Morse*

[acoustic osprey]

my morse couldn't really find anything

[acoustic osprey]

basically thrice

[lethal moat]

There’s the radio towers

[acoustic osprey]

but only once in evrima before this

[clear crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/fancy-wine-mustache-elegant-man-gif-14321023

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-antony-apple-gif-23678919

[clear crystal]

How do y’all find it?

[acoustic osprey]

but the only time we've had morse, besides this, was from locational human OST we got in Update 4.5

which just had "SOS" and "B"

[lethal moat]

Luck, effort, experience, etc

[clear crystal]

Lord have mercy

[clear crystal]

How long ago was that?

[acoustic osprey]

let me bring out my old trusty spreadsheet

4th March 2022 (Aussie date)

[lethal moat]

Ayyy, gen 1 reference https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1236824961776222219/IMG_3539.png?ex=66b6a901&is=66b55781&hm=6a69fd779c8ef116931fb06ac8e2cf5df01592a2f73b3a185d93647801aa7f47&

[lethal moat]

We need to start archiving dates for lore hunts and discovering easter eggs

Could be a fun history thing to look back on

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

i suppose with anything pre-proper lore in Evrima (basically up until Don confirmed no more PCE lore)
that's for my old doc

but arching something like lore hunt stuff and easter eggs would be good

especially in-game easter eggs

[lethal moat]

Yis

[acoustic osprey]

unsure how though.
Don't wanna fill up your doc with that stuff

we could make some room in Run's server?

[lethal moat]

Probably just a separate thing, we can make a doc and toss it in the sacred texts tab

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

just Docs are bit restricting
video embedded is basically a pain

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/sacred-text-star-wars-luke-yoda-gif-16551138

[lethal moat]

It’ll likely be just a date and a short explanation, more digging can be done seperately if needed

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-house-md-huh-hugh-laurie-gif-5750615313035362070

[acoustic osprey]

basically my doc!!

[lethal moat]

Since gen 1 have been described as being as well understood by the average employee as cryptids, I feel like their behaviors play into that
“Why the hell did it make an idol and bathe it in blood?”
“Idk, it does that sometimes, don’t worry about it.”

[acoustic osprey]

reminds me of The Forest lore with the cannibals

[lethal moat]

I’m listening to some 40k lore stuff, mainly about abandoned alien technology and whatnot, and it makes me excited about how little AE might know about what it’s made

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[lethal moat]

I’d also love there to be misplaced sympathy for gen 1, yeah, they’re smart and live outside, but that’s because they’ll tear you limb from limb if they get you

[clear crystal]

What’s pce

[lethal moat]

Primal Carnage Extinction
A game the isle had a partnership with back in the day before the rework, now it’s non-canon

[clear crystal]

Can I get like a rundown in anyway

Just like a summary

[clear crystal]

Bruh leutin is the best lorehammer YouTuber prove me wrong

[lethal moat]

I don’t know about Primal Carnage, I didn’t consider it worth my time since it isn’t canon, I don’t really study legacy, I’ve paid even less attention to Primal Carnage

[lethal moat]

I listen to a lot of different ones

[clear crystal]

I mean a rundown of the isle lore

[lethal moat]

Oh

[clear crystal]

Legacy and evrima lore are considered separate?

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

Yes, legacy is dead, long live Evrima

[clear crystal]

Oooaaaahhhh look at this juicy document

[icy onyx]

hours worth of "we dont know for sure but could be"

and i love it for that

[lethal moat]

There’s also a podcast and a lore server if you’re interested

[clear crystal]

This is what I rlly love abt warhammer lore too it leaves so many things open to interpretation @lethal moat

[lethal moat]

Yep

[clear crystal]

Yessss send link

[lethal moat]

I’ll DM you

And the podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=qebP9C1eQ6WgM8pffl6H1A

[acoustic osprey]

practically yes

nothing hurts watching some old isle lore vids of legacy
there are some similarities, some similar themes and some similar peoples/things

[lethal moat]

Some things keep coming back

[acoustic osprey]

but the actual subtext and world is changed

[acoustic osprey]

some things may come back
some things have came back

but not always 1:1

[icy onyx]

What a friendly looking gentleman. i should ask him for directions

[weak sluice]

Btw from when you applied for being a mod,how long did it take for you to hear back?

[clear crystal]

This is bonkers

I mean this has got me like

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-smoking-sadge-pepe-smoking-pepe-sadge-gif-16948267171533269841

I wanna know what the incident is

[fast forge]

that idea is a bit outdated, as we used to think one big event happened that shut down the island

now we know it's more likely a series of events, potentially spanning years

[fast forge]

AUGUSTUS didn't flash a dewlap in that old video, did it?

just wondering if there was morse in that video, but I don't remember it

[fast forge]

It does not

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[median shuttle]

soooo... Docks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[hexed forge]

Has very little defenses against dinosaurs. Makes me think that the Hyper fences are literally there to contain dinosaurs in certain areas.

(Referencing Rumples theory of the fences not being used to contain dinosaurs in x area)

[median shuttle]

yall think the hyper fences are the hyperendocrin strain of the fences around the human outposts?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-cat-side-eye-cat-side-eye-orange-cat-staring-gif-4749659952322810298

Just a fence to contain things up to Hyper size and strength

[median shuttle]

well there goes my theory

[kindred bobcat]

@fast forge Was the morsecode misspelt or misinterpreted to augustes?

[nova cypress]

I wish the devs would tease this guy 😔

[muted reef]

I need the friend shaped friends

[lethal moat]

It was a few months for me before I was contacted

[fast forge]

I looked at it several times, 90% sure it's Augustes

in the second shot one of the herreras says "TUS" so it's possible they are correcting the first one (which would be funny)

[kindred bobcat]

oh

well that probably explains it

[fast forge]

Someone also pointed out that the creator of the video (Seiza) is German, and 'Augustus' in german is 'Augustes'

[kindred bobcat]

i never thought i was the first one to notice they were morse coding lol

[fast forge]

nah you were the first, congrats

[kindred bobcat]

man its like a onion, so many layers

[fast forge]

I think I'm gonna try to make a short YT video about this...

"MORSE CODE IN THE ISLE TRAILER?!?!?1?!"

[kindred bobcat]

big brain

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

https://tenor.com/view/its-business-jack-donaghy-30rock-its-just-business-its-nothing-personal-gif-21903654

[fast forge]

It's been a month since my last video, and I've been itching to make something again

Kinda had some work started on some other stuff, but this one seems quick and easy so I might try to work on it tonight or tomorrow

[hexed forge]

Have fun

[median shuttle]

idk who told you that but augustus in german is augustus

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[median shuttle]

Lol, well no it's augustus

[snow jasper]

I wonder if there's a lore explanation for the different vocalisations, and whether or not Augustus is one, or all three

[lethal moat]

Could be the replicator doing it’s variation within species thing

[snow jasper]

I hope they have their own codenames to find in documents around the map or in other lore videos to come

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[snow jasper]

I love how the origin of that gif was meant to have a tag of the user who made it, forgot who did make it

[rapid chasm]

theres german keyboards

[muted reef]

I must have my wolverine (tisso) gameplay in the isle

[hexed forge]

This is your second time saying that

[thin hinge]

Thee ree: Dinosaurs int he isle are alive and kill people

[lethal moat]

So, Tartarus

[hexed forge]

Location where AE employees get sent to when they do an oopsie in the company

I believe the punishment is literally just them having to work there

[lethal moat]

In greek mythology, the line between idea, being, and location for the Primordial deities are kind of blurred, my idea is that anything named after Tartarus, Gaea, Oronous, or Nyx, will likely be itself in it’s entirety, how the place looks, feels, and operates, should all be directed towards the same goal

[hexed forge]

Mmm

Im going to be honest and just say that Im not smart enough to understand what you are trying to say.
Dont know a ton about Greek Mythology, just a few bits here and there.

[unique eagle]

Ah HECK. Lore theory. The random letters here: Has anybody checked if they mean stuff?

[hexed forge]

What random letters?

[lethal moat]

Just random

Nothing important

[hexed forge]

When it says "Early access"?

Probably just random yeah

[hexed forge]

My favorite place to buy new games...

Steaz..

[lethal moat]

Tartarus is both the place, the idea of deep imprisonment, and a being capable of producing other beings, all at once

[hexed forge]

I see

[lethal moat]

So I think areas like that should be heavily symbolic

[hexed forge]

So perhaps the place where AE's most dangerous assets are created

Not just held, but also created.

[unique eagle]

How is rpreplay captured? Is that just a packet dump of the real-time stream? No local re-encoding?

[lethal moat]

Tartarus made the giants

Father of

Mother being Gaea

[hexed forge]

Iirc the parent of Tartarus was Chaos right?

[lethal moat]

Yes
The beggining from which everything else came, the idea of everything at once

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[fast forge]

it does the same thing in the newest trailer

[unique eagle]

I am so internally upset. As best as I can tell visually, there is really actually no hidden information in the video that I've obtained. xwx... Or, if there is, it didn't survive transmission. I think the MVs are kinda pretty though, owo.

(Please pardon me, my usual group of video encoding nerds is all asleep, and I am /desperate/.)

[lethal moat]

What if a section of Tartarus looked like this

[hexed forge]

It doesn't look...isle themed..

[fast forge]

looks like 40k to me

or maybe Aliens

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pointing-that-is-correct-thats-right-good-job-way-to-go-gif-18723702

Yeah, probably too messy

AE seems stricter than that

[fast forge]

That's like gritty space scifi
The Isle is more
retro brutalist scifi

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[fast forge]

think like USSR public buildings

[hexed forge]

Yep

[hexed forge]

Fits perfectly with the office building at docks

[fast forge]

That's exactly what I was thinking

[hexed forge]

Haha

[fast forge]

I only got a glimpse of it as I only saw the last quarter of the stream
Didn't even get confirmation that it was an office building, but that's what it looked like to me

[fast forge]

did he talk about it at all?

[hexed forge]

In the stream?

[fast forge]

ye

[hexed forge]

Nope, he did not reference human structures at all. Only just talked about containers and how he broke his legs when jumping off them lol.

[hexed forge]

In a stream prior to the NV stream he showcased the building

Iirc he called it an office building, might be wrong.

[fast forge]

fair enough

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-tv-title-screen-intro-gif-16520351

[hexed forge]

Office..office...office....office....

Office...

[lethal moat]

Back to this, I think Tartarus would be focused entirely on creation and imprisonment, an extraordinary hostile environment devoted entirely to produce the most powerful things it can, and containing those things, as per greek mythos

Which we’ve already guessed, but I just enjoy the simplicity and brutality that it implies

[lethal moat]

Did gen 1 exist before dinosaurs?

[acoustic osprey]

I've always liked the imagery of Tartarus being akin but also completely juxtaposing the general architectural style of Apollo Engineering buildings

basically a white room
not singular. But basically heavily scientific
No "grey brutalism" but hyper modern sciencey white and sterile

[muted reef]

They give me a very old fashioned vibe for some reason, as if they're part of the beginning of the timeline

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/ayanokoji-sala-branca-youjitsu-anime-white-room-gif-17046137

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ayanokoji-sala-branca-youjitsu-anime-white-room-gif-17046137

yeah basically that.

welcome to Tartarus.

[muted reef]

Why do I think of like food everytime I hear tartarus

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-the-dark-hour-dark-hour-gif-18863888

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

But yeah, Tartarus as an extraordinary unpleasant place sounds appealing

[muted reef]

I'd expect tartarus to be like red for some reason...I wonder why...( )

[acoustic osprey]

cliche!!!

[muted reef]

But like a muted one

[lethal moat]

I picture it as dark grey or black, like wet stone

[muted reef]

So like every other building? I could see it

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, that's just what we've seen in current AE buildings art

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-no-jurassic-park-hammond-gif-16813602

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-damn-damn-it-annoyed-pissed-off-gif-16637041

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-damn-damn-it-annoyed-pissed-off-gif-16637041

[lethal moat]

Unfinished underground with concrete and warning signs

[fast forge]

that's cool

[grim echo]

💯

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/warning-the-lorax-the-lorax3-you-have-been-warned-the-lorax-movies-gif-17307648

[nova cypress]

Underground tunnel system for humans 😳

Big enough for vehicles to travel through

[hexed forge]

GUTS exist.

[nova cypress]

What

[hexed forge]

Generic. Underground. Transportation. System.

Its the system of underground tunnels under gateway that AE uses to transport supplies and a faster method of transportation.

[nova cypress]

Ohhh

Man I thought I had a good idea

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[median shuttle]

I mean it's a good idea still, you just didnt know about guts and yet came up with it on your own. Dont be too harsh on yourself

[fast forge]

didn't Don confirm caves too?
or was that just us fantasizing?

[nova cypress]

Ok so im not a complete failure

[hexed forge]

Caves existing on Gateway is a thing, its just that I dont think Humans would use them as transportation

[low scarab]

im back guys

[hexed forge]

Thats the quickest Appeal ever

Congrats

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-corn-eat-yum-gif-5817660121508986262

anyways ill be very excited to scavenge the dockyard for lore

[hexed forge]

Everyone is

[low scarab]

it looked great from the stream very eerie

especially with the NV desaturation

[patent ginkgo]

low contrast, dim, desaturated nv makes for the best horror vibes

[hexed forge]

mhm

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping dockyards has some secrets, and that there are other map changes ss well

[hexed forge]

Hopefully

[low scarab]

Any map changes are good a lot of space on gateway that I’m sure they have plans for but still needs to be filled

[hexed forge]

West Access and NW ridge..

[lethal moat]

Imagine the monorail coming back

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stairway-to-heaven-is-this-heaven-heaven-gif-14640458

[fast forge]

I think we'll only get the dockyards otherwise they would have teased more, but a girl can hope...

[hexed forge]

East plains changes maybe...

[fast forge]

I hope the new docks also have that nearby base added

East Plains could also use it's expected update

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[low scarab]

i wish they would atleast give us the rail yk it was cool like a highway I guess

made some good screen shots

[fast forge]

I remember one of the devs (Kissen?) saying that when they upgraded the engine before gateway release some of the old completed stuff for gateway was suddenly broken, and had to be remade completely. Apparently the monorail was one of those things

something like that

[low scarab]

Yea I remember it was something like that

[hexed forge]

And we know that the Monorails will not be in the best condition, probably broken here and there.

So they took it out probably so Vis can finish the entire set.

[low scarab]

Still would like to see it return

[hexed forge]

SoonTM..

Vis started working on GUTS iirc so maybe next year

[low scarab]

I would love to see guts

But I think dondi has big plans for it but I still would like maybe even just some of those tunnels to be open cool nesting and ss opportunity

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

I just hope they wont be overused constantly by dinosaurs

Since using GUTS will be faster than going on the surface...

[lethal moat]

I hope the opposite

Offers some good opportunities if you know player behavior

[neon gorge]

i hope that they give signs for the tribals in the form of cave paintings on rocks like the ones from spiro at the mudpit spot with the bubble sounds

[bold crater]

Dark Souls-esque signs players can leave behind with pre-chosen words

[strange shell]

try finger but hole

[fast forge]

perhaps this could tie into the "Pattern Recognition" mutation

[neon gorge]

i want it

[low scarab]

im sure don has plans for stuff like this

[low scarab]

mist or,
beast

fort, night

[low scarab]

i would like for dinosaurs to be able to read human documents and or unlock secret areas or bases with that mutation

so many opportunities with mutations in general

if you give another type of mutation that allows more exploration and world building it would really help fill some of the emptiness in the game

[fast forge]

would be kinda cool

[median shuttle]

I've been hoping the same thing, what kind of stuff would you like to see

[lethal moat]

Bones, papers, technology, etc

[median shuttle]

I do recall in something along the lines of "east plains remains ominously untouched" in either a dev blog or a patchnostes from the time northeast plains got it's changes

[hexed forge]

I hope that is becomes more rocky and contains multiple caves, would be awesome.

[fast forge]

A plain but with cracks you can fall in, and some sudden elevation changes

[hexed forge]

Mhm, exactly

[fast forge]

tbh I doubt we'll get that much, but it already has several elevation changes, so they might spruce up those

[lethal moat]

Maybe not on gateway, but there’s multiple islands, they might end up making more

[fast forge]

we were talking about East Plains specifically

but yeah, other maps would be very cool

it's been so gradual but we've gotten a fair bit of map changes since gateway released less than a year ago

I really like the deeper river canyon between NE Plains and East Plains, with the waterfall under the bridge

[bold crater]

I remember back in ye old Evrima days, Don was upset about having to release Isla Spiro so rushed because it was meant to be a chronological order thing, and Spiro was supposed to be later on. I wonder if that's still a thing. Like where does Gateway stand in that sense 😮

[fast forge]

oh? I hadn't heard this

[bold crater]

T'was long ago in early Evrima days <:I

[fast forge]

I started kinda late on spiro
before cerato, but after most other things

[lethal moat]

I started playing the month the nesting update cane out

[bold crater]

What if....some animals tore out their internal tracker
unless it's like REALLY internal

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-dinosaur-shoot-shooter-gif-14392486

[bold crater]

👍

[median shuttle]

yall think some of the map changes outside of docks could possibly be perimeter or some domes?

[bold crater]

Maybe 😮 I can definitely see those changes being silently done for players to discover themselves.

[median shuttle]

i thought cause theres these small boxes outside perimeter, now that I think about it there are also some of those boxes in different bases

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[hexed forge]

Its nothing important, or atleast shouldnt be.

Blame Isaac if Im wrong

[grand sigil]

someone mentioned dark souls several hours ago
fuzzy summoned

[lethal moat]

Lol

[low scarab]

Mist or
Beast

[hexed forge]

Unsummon

[low scarab]

He doesn’t go away until he defeats the boss

[grand sigil]

rat ahead
therefore be wary of plump sort

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-souls-gif-24580984

[grand sigil]

can i have a water treatment facility on gateway mayhaps

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-jet-gif-12783876636484072375

[low scarab]

You have nothing but the best “Æ CLASS WATER”

[lethal moat]

Having more buildings by the large dams sounds like a fun idea

[grand sigil]

wait
are there already any power-plant-like structures on the map
because power station could work maybe
and also are there any structures which are only garages or mainly garages
like, large open garages
because i THINK i remember one somewhere north with large garages

[low scarab]

I would like to be able to go inside the dams like this

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah

[low scarab]

I mean I don’t think so other than like generators and solar panels

[hexed forge]

Water access would be perfect

[grand sigil]

i need someone to confirm if theres some sort of garage type thing up north
im 40% sure

[lethal moat]

I feel like a lot of stuff like that is going to be run through GUTS

[lethal moat]

There’s a decent base in the west and northwest

[meager junco]

Been hoping this will be the case but ig we’ll have to see

[low scarab]

I would like to see all the buildings from this map be created

[hexed forge]

Hanger? Or literally just a garage area where they fix vehicles.

[grand sigil]

old gateway jumpscare

[grand sigil]

Hangar is the word I meant to say

Like, warehouse-looking garage

[low scarab]

My guess is they intend to add all these buildings still to some degree

[hexed forge]

Every single ranger station has that except H6 and C14

[low scarab]

Old gateway map is elite

[grand sigil]

Nononono I'm talking very large and open
Not the round structure things
I feel like the one I saw (Or think I remember seeing?) was... like... partially built into terrain or something? And on the far northern coast somewhere

[hexed forge]

I'm talking about those yes

[grand sigil]

Wait what

[hexed forge]

Yes

[grand sigil]

Okay so the thing I'm talking about
Uhhhh hard to word
Basically I think it's entered through a single door, then there's a hallway, on one side a door to a small warehouse room, and forward to a truly massive indoor mall parking lot looking thing
This is all from my very fady memory of like November 2023

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

Huh

[grand sigil]

I'm gonna make a location checklist for someone to maybe check

[hexed forge]

Perimeter entrance?

[grand sigil]

It might be some weird mandela effect thing I have but I swear to god there was a backrooms garage looking thing way up north
Gonna look at the map and just draw circles where I might have seen it

[low scarab]

What are you thinking of?

[grand sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-medic-i-have-no-idea-no-idea-gif-17644007

[hexed forge]

The only place on the map with a parking lot is perimeter entrance.

[low scarab]

[hexed forge]

Big hexadome in the middle of the map?

[grand sigil]

Somewhere on the very, VERY tip of the northern coast
I just need to remember if it was east or west of D10

[hexed forge]

Ok was the base on a cliff, Under a rock?

Then you are thinking of H6

[lethal moat]

There are like two bases in those sections

[grand sigil]

Where is that on the map

[hexed forge]

West of D10

In West Access

[grand sigil]

What I do know for certain is that the isle backrooms was connected to/part of one of the main bases
I do know that

[hexed forge]

Can't be C14

[hexed forge]

H6!!!

A door leading to tartarus(under the map)

And a storage facility partially in a cliff

[grand sigil]

hold on brb

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[grand sigil]

Okay so if the thing I'm thinking of is at H6, are either of these H6 (I know there's a base in one of the nooks and crannies but I forget which nook or cranny it was)

[hexed forge]

That's east of D10..

If it was on a cliff it's H6 in West access..

[fast forge]

h6 has big clear view of the coastline, and it's tucked under a cliff overhang
not one of those spots

[hexed forge]

He's talking about H6 but can't find it on a map

[grand sigil]

Wait where's H6 then
Because the description of a storage facility going partially into a cliff matches up similarly to my account

[hexed forge]

On the map it should say H4 which is a mistake on the site

[grand sigil]

Islemaps doesn't update their map anymore and I don't use vulnona because it's different and I can't handle different things

[hexed forge]

H6 is in west access

And it's called H4 which is incorrect

[grand sigil]

Next time I play Isle I will definitely check
Whenever that will be

[fast forge]

and it's also labeled as "Southwest Access" on islemaps

[hexed forge]

They still haven't fixed that? Damn

[grand sigil]

They don't update their map anymore I think

[hexed forge]

Oh rip

[grand sigil]

Also the base there was removed to be reworked I think
So the place I'm thinking of might not exist

[fast forge]

I don't think it was updated past the first few iterations? I first used it back in like December or so and haven't seen any changes since then

[hexed forge]

No base was ever removed to be reworked..

[grand sigil]

But then again I still really feel like it was in the far northeast

[grand sigil]

Bruh what the shrimp is all this mandela effect isleness

[fast forge]

C14?

[hexed forge]

Fuzzy you play The Isle 2 minutes a month. It's fine lol

[grand sigil]

I specifically remember there being a base there that was removed lol

[hexed forge]

It's not on a cliff overlooking the ocean

[fast forge]

that's true, it's in the jungle

[grand sigil]

Place I was at was cliffy and coastal-y

[zenith frigate]

is it not h4

[grand sigil]

Maybe it wasn't part of a main base honestly
None of them match up with what I saw or think I saw

[fast forge]

islemaps label it as H4 incorrectly, it's H6

[hexed forge]

It's H6

[grand sigil]

But is it physically there unlike that one patch of dirt where a base is supposed to be
And does it have the, like, backrooms hidden behind a cliff thing
I need screenshots methinks
Could spark my memory

[hexed forge]

IT DOES!

[grand sigil]

RAHH

[fast forge]

You can see both locations on this concept map. H4 is in green, was in the Augustus video, but doesn't exist in game yet. H6 is in red, on a coastal cliff

[hexed forge]

There's a door that leads under the map.

[grand sigil]

so the isle backrooms is tartarus entrance!?!? (real) (not clickbait)!?!?!?

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

yeah it has water that will boot you from the server

[grand sigil]

Wait seriously

[fast forge]

yeah it's glitchy, it sucks because you get just get booted repeatedly before you can even drown

[grand sigil]

If that's not massive implication then I don't know what is

[fast forge]

the same thing can happen if you are in the water out at the edges of the map, by the islands

[lethal moat]

Or it’s just a bug

[grand sigil]

Aw

[fast forge]

yeah it's def just a bug

[grand sigil]

That would have been an AMAZING way to imply something mysterious though

Like, if it crashed the game but had its own special error message

Or just instantly closed it with no crash window

More games need to do that

[lethal moat]

Eh, I’d rather some other hint, like a TSL event

[grand sigil]

Idk but intentional crashes just does it for me
It sends endorphins to my brain but spooky cryptic mystery endorphins

There's this one old GMod map that I can't remember that nailed it

Which was also in a facility in a jungle I think lol

[lethal moat]

Seems to be too much of a problem for the player, something killing you would probably be better than crashing your game

[grand sigil]

Also what is TSL event

[fast forge]

Time Species Location
(I think)

[grand sigil]

Well
I guess here's my interpretation of how instant crashes (Technically games simply closing) could be better than that
Basically I think they can be more impactful in scenarios where the player is in a slow buildup to a partial reveal of something cryptic or mysterious, they're like "Whaa--", interested and kind of creeped out at the same time, before a larger reveal, then the game instantly closing doesn't give them as much time to fully understand what they saw or heard, giving more impact to the mystery the player witnessed

Idk really

Still I think a door that leads under the map that crashes the game is interesting, even if it's a bug

[lethal moat]

Yep

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-woo-yeah-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-woo-time-woo-time-bunny-oh-yeah-woo-yeah-bunny-gif-8457484959688895098

[lethal moat]

Just had a thought

[ember rover]

What is the thought

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/all-ears-hear-out-im-listening-attentive-hearken-gif-22832705

[lethal moat]

AE has major infrastructure right on the coastline, this likely means that they (and potentially others) were likely successful in slowing/reversing climate change to some extent, or they’re confident enough that they can do it that they’re willing to risk that dockyard and the money invested in it

[ember rover]

Another is artificial barriers in the ocean that prevent dramatic buildup of water along the coast, which also just means they're very VERY wealthy.

[hexed forge]

I don't think them having major infrastructure on the coast indicates much to be honest. They needed a way to transport large amount of supplies to their islands, it was one of the only ways.

[hexed forge]

Thats just a game thing

[lethal moat]

And if global warming raises water levels, it’s all a waste

[ember rover]

Think they couldn't do it by air because of the (eventual) Quetzcoatl's and swarms of Pteranodons?

[ember rover]

What? No. Actual physical barriers in the ocean.

[lethal moat]

Helicopters are a thing

[hexed forge]

I thought you were referring to the blue wall at the end of the map

[hexed forge]

Large amount of supplies in bulk > Small amount of supplies by helicopter every 12 hours

Also Domes to contain pterosaurs

[hexed forge]

Ehhhhhh

Depends on what rate the earth is experiencing global warming at in AE's universe

[ember rover]

If it's like real Earth, the impact of Global Warming is going to hit really hard with the en-masse flooding of coastlines between 2050 and 2070.

[lethal moat]

True

[ember rover]

And the food crisis in the late 2030s, early 2040s.

[lethal moat]

They did start off with food and botany, however, we know dinosaur stuff existed in the 90s

[hexed forge]

"Earth?"

(I still have no clue whether this Dondi statement was lore or not)

[ember rover]

... Isle is in an Alternative Universe that's not actually Earth????

[hexed forge]

Nono, its earth. Definitely earth.

The possible meaning is that it could be very different from the earth in our universe.

Higher sea levels perhaps, more dry areas, etc.

[lethal moat]

It can be the same planet and still be different

[hexed forge]

But we need clarification to see if that statement was even lore

[lethal moat]

I should ask Dondi if the space race or some equivalent happened in universe, I just had another thought

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

If that was a thing then AE has a chance of possibly containing space technology.

[lethal moat]

Not that

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

So

What if in that universe, the governments devoted money to fixing our own planet, rather than pouring money into exploring and creating habitations on other celestial bodies, like how they do irl

[hexed forge]

Possible

Would be a nice question to ask him

[lethal moat]

If this is the case, companies could have begun climate change reversal efforts as early as the 70s or 80s, which could match the timeline we think we know fairly well.

[lethal moat]

Space race vs genetic engineering competition

[fast forge]

that's an interesting thought

[acoustic osprey]

"Now how do we make this profitable!"

[neon gorge]

listening to the podcast and has anyone had the thought of injecting the minds of humans into the dinos for the 1k life thing but they are then forced into eternal suffering being reincarnated as dinosaurs via tartaus with the eventual goal of evolving to the point to survive problems of the future

nvm i just had to continue listening

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[neon gorge]

where is the matriarch lore

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[grand sigil]

I've been watching greek mythology videos and it's making me isle

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-thor-bout-time-kratos-mjolnir-gif-27131912

[low scarab]

lol yes in fact almost those exact words

[low scarab]

The little I know about Greek mythology has sparked so many cool lore ideas

I wanna see river of Styx in the isle

Prisoners escaping Tartarus via water

[spark egret]

[lethal moat]

I seem to recall the styx having some unpleasent side effects

[low scarab]

Yea supposed to be poisonous or something

Even cooler for lore/story applications

[lethal moat]

It’ll burn away your soul if you aren’t tethered, but if you are, you become invulnerable except for where you’re tethered, it’s how Achilles became so powerful

He was dipped in by his mother as a child

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-big-brain-meme-gif-27667677

[neon gorge]

wait.. if the tartarus is just putting your soul into a new body... it just might be a way to escape the cycle

[low scarab]

Dondi should take note and make river of Styx canon

[neon gorge]

or thats what the water void is under the map

[low scarab]

💀

[lethal moat]

Could be

The thing is, that’s not the only river in Hades

[neon gorge]

oops thats the deino river

[lethal moat]

The only one I can remember the name of is Lethe, and it wipes your brain, but there’s also one made of fire that keeps you from dying

And I’m confident there are others

[neon gorge]

hmm

[lethal moat]

Phlegethon is the one I couldn’t think the name of

[strange shell]

None of them are recommended for taking a swim through

[lethal moat]

They have their uses

[unique eagle]

What podcast is this? o.=.o? It sounds metal as heck.

[lethal moat]

https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=c7k05hbCT5-kduxOuneAcw

[unique eagle]

Which episode, owo?

[lethal moat]

Probably EIPs if I had to guess

[unique eagle]

Thank, owo.

[quaint compass]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-versus-kratos-gif-10052060108092502918

[low scarab]

#isle-lore-theories message

i love it when don gives songs for lore
my body is a cage fit better than I expected
although this one doesnt have lyrics

[lethal moat]

That was a pretty decent song

[low scarab]

stray suprised me with its soundtrack

its a banger because of how well it fits the lore though too

You're standing next to me
My mind holds the key
I'm living in an age
That calls darkness light
Though my language is dead
Still the shapes fill my head

Just because you've forgotten
That don't mean you're forgiven
I'm living in an age that
Screams my name at night
But when I get to the doorway
There's no one in sight

reminds me of legacy lore

[acoustic osprey]

hi new here!!

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-side-eye-gif-15633112056809271170

[hexed forge]

Be nice to the new guy

[acoustic osprey]

fine!!

[low scarab]

[lethal moat]

Feed him to the replicator

[low scarab]

NO ive made it this far

[hexed forge]

The replicator will decide if he is worth something.

https://tenor.com/view/lion-king-throw-sacrifice-simba-sacrificing-gif-17413569

[acoustic osprey]

One of my fan lore videos I made included Styx as the river coming near from the volcano

[lethal moat]

Your recycling is going to a good cause

[hexed forge]

Theres no river coming out of the volcano!!

[low scarab]

w

[acoustic osprey]

"near from"

[hexed forge]

North lake?

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/pepper-spray-spraaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy-blinded-screaming-gif-11077896871765786363

[lethal moat]

Reduce
Reuse
ec ce

[hexed forge]

North lake

[acoustic osprey]

however
If PERM was turned into the abstract map from ERRANT-291

this river
which comes out from Perm
could be Styx

[low scarab]

still think some river of toxic waste or something surrounding tartarus with people trying to escape by swimming through it and inevitably dying would be cool

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yes-i-do-like-that-oliver-queen-arrow-gif-15367507

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
Styx wasn't really a toxic river

but if you turn it metaphorically
I could understand it being akin to such

[hexed forge]

SoonTM we will hopefully actually get a hint on what that location is...

SoonTM....

[acoustic osprey]

Being that styx basically translates to gloomy

[low scarab]

i thought it was poisonous or something

I beleive rump was discussing the same thing earlier

[acoustic osprey]

not really poisonous

[low scarab]

wdym

describe it a little better your the greek mastermind

[acoustic osprey]

Styx was the river of deathly anger, gloom and hatred

[low scarab]

hmmm

whats that supposed to mean

swim in it you get sad? personally I think the river killing people is cooler

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

Swim in it and get muscle spasms and vomit sickness?

[low scarab]

also cool

[hexed forge]

Fits the anger and gloom

[low scarab]

but seriously in greek mythology whats the deal w the river

[acoustic osprey]

Styx doesn't really have a proper story of people going around and swimming in the river
Imagine it as worse than dying

it was corrosive, not really poisonous

albeit, one legend of achilles was that he was dipped in a child on his heel by his mother

[low scarab]

interesting either way the river was dangerous right

atleast a river that melts things sounds pretty bad to be in

[acoustic osprey]

basically instant death to any normal being

[low scarab]

although I read achilles got his power or something by being dipped in

[low scarab]

oh yea that

lol

[acoustic osprey]

however, it isn't to say Styx = corrosive
it's just that it was corrosive to weak beings (mortals)

but to demi-gods and gods?
It would be worse than dying

[hexed forge]

Normal...

So would Strains or the trinity survive it?

[low scarab]

worse than death?

[acoustic osprey]

depends on what Styx is, if it does exist

[acoustic osprey]

what would be worse than death

[hexed forge]

Constant Pain

[acoustic osprey]

insufferable!!

[low scarab]

still cool i would imagine maybe normal people being trapped in tartarus dying trying to swim out and gen 2 or strains trying to escape its worse

some sort of moat or body of man made nightmare fluid

many cool lore adaptations could be made

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/harry-potter-snape-duel-shrug-just-saying-gif-15004105902388992322

[low scarab]

hope dondi gets ideas here

[hexed forge]

Evrima Corp

EC

[acoustic osprey]

I could imagine Hades Entry not being a GUTS entry
but a styx-esque entry (insert Kharon!!)

[hexed forge]

Elaborate on Kharon

[acoustic osprey]

A bit archaic though

[acoustic osprey]

The ferryman

[low scarab]

where did you learn all this greek lore?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-of-thieves-sot-ferryman-ferry-of-the-damned-sea-of-the-damned-gif-19209548

[acoustic osprey]

However
It is to note
That Poseidon was once regarded the God of death as well (hades not existing at that point) during ancient Mycenaean greece

[acoustic osprey]

Basically

[acoustic osprey]

So it's likely why there are remants of rivers within hades (the underworld)

[acoustic osprey]

Time

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[lethal moat]

Percy Jackson, personaly research, and a mythology class

[low scarab]

a few of my friends love percy jackson

[lethal moat]

I do hope there's some way for gen 2 to make music

[acoustic osprey]

aye, remnants of an older culture

[hexed forge]

I dont see it as necessary

[acoustic osprey]

very necessary

[lethal moat]

100% essential

[acoustic osprey]

Gen2s should have MIDI support in my opinion!

if not
it's something I'll have to ask my programmer friend to do

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-huh-cat-huh-etr-gif-15332443943609734737

[hexed forge]

Why

[acoustic osprey]

so I can play instrument...

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/parrot-dance-sea-of-thieves-gif-20015357

[hexed forge]

Not necessary!!

[acoustic osprey]

no

[acoustic osprey]

to whom!?

[lethal moat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T9g7w-jsLA&pp=ygUWYm9zdW4gYmlsbCBodXJkeSBndXJkeQ%3D%3D

[hexed forge]

Ok so first of all,

How would Gen2s play music?

[acoustic osprey]

grab out a guitar from someone's locker

[lethal moat]

Banjo, harmonica, small drums, fiddle, guitar, trumpet, saxaphone

[hexed forge]

And why would there be a guitar in an AE employees locker..?

[acoustic osprey]

why not
not allowed some leisure?

[lethal moat]

Got to keep entertained somehow

[hexed forge]

Why would AE employees have instruments...

[acoustic osprey]

can't be creative?

[hexed forge]

No, get back to monitoring the rexes!

[lethal moat]

Practice and joy

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[acoustic osprey]

I don't imagine AE workers having literally no life 24/7

it's just unhealthy and would just lead to a JP situation

[hexed forge]

I can imagine that

[acoustic osprey]

I can't honestly

[hexed forge]

Especially if you are an EIP

[lethal moat]

Same, sounds like a good way to lead to disloyal employees

[acoustic osprey]

AE seem more organised and way more business-focused (understand humans are humans)

the reason why JP failed was because Hammond sucked at running a simple park due to mistreatment of employees

[lethal moat]

I feel like AE is large enough to know against mistreating employees

[hexed forge]

I dont see the employees playing an instrument in their freetime tho..

[acoustic osprey]

at least, you have a contract with us.
We respect you are human, but you still work for us

[acoustic osprey]

what would you imagine them do?

[lethal moat]

Like any major corperation

[acoustic osprey]

not even a chance of one or two employees being musically talented?

[acoustic osprey]

basically, on paper

[hexed forge]

Eat, Sleep, Watch TV, gym.

Something like that

[acoustic osprey]

but no to playing music?

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/t3ekx9ezr3Y

[hexed forge]

Yes, no to playing music to not attract the super friendly gen1s outside.

Errant 291

[lethal moat]

Do all islands have gen 1?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean

[hexed forge]

Likely not

[acoustic osprey]

this refers to a specific "location" (unknown) after sunset

[lethal moat]

Besides, play inside where it's safe

[acoustic osprey]

or play during the afternoon/morning/prior to sunset

[hexed forge]

I still don't see AE employees being musically talented due to some of my other theories.

[lethal moat]

Drive out to a field, hook up an aux cord to an electric guitar, and go back and forth with the various dinos across the island

[lethal moat]

Anyone can play an instrument

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
if they're all Gen2s
does that mean they all act/think/do the same? like the same things?

[hexed forge]

True,

But I still dont see them being able to do that.

[acoustic osprey]

we know they aren't exactly clones nor all identical, physically

[acoustic osprey]

why?

[lethal moat]

This is a unsupportive working environment and I won't stand for it

[acoustic osprey]

send to HR!

[hexed forge]

Literally just my gut making me think that AE employees dont even have instruments in their workplaces, not even their rest places.

[lethal moat]

If you live somewhere for weeks or months straight, you make it your own place

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/they-wont-even-know-kevin-hart-what-the-fit-clueless-they-have-no-idea-gif-16626494

[lethal moat]

I just want to play Devil Went Down to Georgia on my fiddle

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

I dont see AE allowing instruments!

I see AE as being super strict.

[lethal moat]

But why tho

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-wayne-knight-jurassic-park-ingen-movies-gif-24822829

[hexed forge]

I see AE as being a super strict company.

[lethal moat]

This is me rn Cerato, as you say this

[hexed forge]

They can do a lot of other things than play an instrument

[lethal moat]

Then why not let them play if they want to!

[hexed forge]

Disrupts the workplace environment!!!

Even if they arent even working.

[lethal moat]

Then it's not the work environment!

[hexed forge]

Its not like they get on and off the island and have their own homes.

I quite literally see low class employees sharing a room with like 3 others to rest, eat, etc.

Maybe not 3 others,

But atleast one other.

[lethal moat]

I wouldn't really want unskilled employees, but I still don't see why no music

[hexed forge]

Why would music be an important requirement for AE employees.

[acoustic osprey]

Leisure

[lethal moat]

It's not a requirement, just something nice

[acoustic osprey]

this is saying though, not as a "every employee must play music"

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

but as one aspect of leisure for employees

we know a recreational area/lounge exists

[lethal moat]

I'd be fine with a guitar being very rare, but it'd be a fun little thing

[hexed forge]

Perimeter entrance has something similar to that, in the building.

[lethal moat]

Or a piano in a recreation area

[acoustic osprey]

you referring to the opening room in the Perm building?

[hexed forge]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

not really a recreational room

more so an entrance lobby

that building is also in the dock as well

[hexed forge]

Mmm true

The docks are also filled with your worst nightmare,

Unfinished cars.

[acoustic osprey]

yay!!!

[lethal moat]

Lorecord exploring the Docks is going to be sick

[low scarab]

indeed

im very excited for docks

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-badling-duck-walk-quack-quack-duck-take-over-gif-14583973

[low scarab]

any kind of map change to gateway is hype

[lethal moat]

I get the feeling there might be more than just the dockyard

[low scarab]

i hope so but dondi hasnt hinted at anything

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

The area between Northeast and East looks a bit different, a lot more jungle.

[acoustic osprey]

F5 revealed in next HT (?!?!?!)

[hexed forge]

And also I hope they added more caves in east plains

I want east plains to be filled with caves

[lethal moat]

Any of the underground is a fun idea

Limit how movment works

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-steve-carell-gif-22904325