#isle-lore-theories
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the whole errant thing will never not confuse the hell out of me
so what exactly was it again?
My main question is where the hell does the Errant incident take place, Perimeter? Olympus? Just at least give us a minor hint to push us into the right direction.
Person tried sneaking into x, got caught, died.
Potentially a suicidal death
I thought it was less of a person and more of a... "entity"??
I need to reread it maybe
Hmm, I need to reread it too
I saw it more as an employee who didn’t realise where he was actually going and accidentally trespassed, but it’s been a while since I last read the text
I assume you are referring to the biotrace part
We really dont know anything about Biotrace
uhhhh i dont remember that
Basically Errant had no biotrace
Maybe Biotrace is a way for AE to identify their employees and assets...?
thats not how i remember the paper going
but similar to how i remember it going
we desperately need more lore papers within the next year btw
Basically what I believe is that,
Errant was a spy from a rival company sent to AE, they possessed no Biotrace because Biotrace is used to identify AE's employees and assets. They were detained, knowing that their mission was possibly compromised, they committed suicide by eating a pill of some sorts.
Note that Im just assuming what Biotrace is.
yeah
SoonTM
the lore is the only isle content i consume since i dont play the isle (sometimes but extremely rarely) therefore more lore required immediately
mmm
We theorized about this for a bit about 3 days ago
That’s very similar to my guess as well

Imagine the first poor person to break into a strain containment area 
PETA styled organization...
"We came to save yo- gets devoured into pieces
What if-hear me out!
What if, it’s the strain spawning facility so you technically wouldn’t find it as you’d be there already
spawning?
Like actually spawn as a hyper
I imagine the different strains would probably have different facilities
Prob different sectors of one big one I imagine
What if the strain process is just,
Grow out x asset in a vat to adult, and then inject the strain into the body.
Im against the idea of Baby hypers 
What if babies are just too weak for the strain? They just die after injection?
That’s something I actually thought about when thinking that, maybe strains truly need the adult since the stress would kill a young one
We view the hyper strain as a disease... so it would make sense for babies to just not be able to handle the strain.
Mhm
What if a neuro gets a hold of a hyper?
All the way back here
King Kong Vs godzilla
Nono

I mean very separated, plus I’m sure AE would make sure each has different types of containments and multiple layers of concrete
What do you mean Rumple?
Like, what if a neuro hypnotizes a hyper and it starts serving them
Hmm, that depends on the range of Neuros abilities, does it effect EVERYTHING? No matter their size and strength?
So neuros would have a “mind controlling” wall that stops any neuro transmission or wtv you’d call it from getting past the containment
I think it’s just significantly safer for strain research to be compartmentalized within that branch of research
So each one has it’s own facility
I mean….maybe that’s one of the incidents
They didn’t predict a neuro to get a hold past the walls
Or Each section in the strain testing facility
The strain testing facility could be a giant megafacility
With various sections
Cera that’s what we’re saying rn
That seems like too many eggs in one basket if something goes wrong
Rumple isnt
But the strain facility is one facility, there are no other strain facilities
How do you know?
All in one location-
But I guess that one location could just be an island, and not one facility
You could be right

Now that I’ve sent smug troodon, watch Don come and prove me wrong
Location could mean literally an island
Potentially
Thats what I said
Message sent late
Don ^
He said he loves watching us get so close but then turn 90 degrees in the opposite direction 
I couldnt find a good gif sadly 
I guess this could work too
It is pretty entertaining tbf
Shirley
I bet gateway trailer with some sort of teaser inside
Nah
Also, next podcast episode will likely be human tools/bases and the recent events sometime week of Aug 15
I believe that the "Gateway" trailer is going to be the video at the end of the year with the winter update 
The next lore video is probably on Halloween
Hyper Strain lore..
Maybe even neuro, or god tisso
Hyper Rex overshadows both, its the fan favorite, and has existed since December of 2015 
Nono I misunderstand. Might not be a neuro or tisso. BUT, might mention it like “unlike strain N and strain T, Strain H has seen immense growth rate within a short time” or something along the lines
U*
Mmmm, maybe.
If it’s the actual first hyper, it’s very plausible they mention the other strains and compare differences, like how they compared differences between Augustus and previous herreras
At least that’s if the video is similar to Augustus, since none of the recent videos have been the same type
Allo doesn’t count cause it’s basically dibble video 1.2
Yeah, certainly possible
June 23 was the last one
I just can’t wait to see this as an actual model…
Holy been a min
Yeah, skipped a month because I’m busy in the summer lol
And tbf, we’ve been in the dibble HT for a while so nothing new is really getting added atm
Probably more endgame stuff
Like Strains in the game will be in the endgame development range for the isle
Talking about the Docks will be fun
Well if Shirley actually is the hyper than I imagine we’ll see a glimpse of it which means it doesn’t even need to be fully modelled/ready yet
Honestly, best buildings in the isle I’ve seen in my years of playing, I’m very happy
The owomiwaptowors shall rise!
We might not even see the actual hyper rex,
It might just show a rex fighting something, and then it gets captured, and then its a whole lot of strain research stuff idk.
AAAAA
DROGON
BURN
He cool
Honestly I’d be very disappointed if that was the case
I just doubt we actually physically see a hyper rex.
I will believe that unless Don says otherwise.
Not the full model, could be literally the head plus they can make it so the image is very glitchy so making it look good doesn’t even have to be a priority
They can even draw it in the image
Make it have a realistic style so it looks like ingame(since they have done that before)
Did they? When 
That helipad one, the perimeter ones
Just gotta hope and pray that happens 
I pray to SHIRLEY EVERY DAY
make Rex 003, into #1!
Would be cool if its an offspring of the first 2 rexes
"How different is applying a strain into a natural offspring then applying a strain into a lab grown rex"
Hm that makes me wonder
Do strains prefer natural Dino’s,or are they not picky and will take any host
This could be the question 
Only one way to find out, capture shirley boys
Honestly quite a curious question
Even tho not really natural
Does it rather replicated or bred Dino’s
Maybe natural offspring are less controllable which = a more aggresive strain
Basically a natural offspring has never seen humans, so its more aggresive when in contact with them.
And hasnt seen human environments
I was thinking maybe natural ones are actually better suited for it, which would add another reason why , at least in the lore, they would allow nesting and not just replicate everything
More stressed out and aggressive asset 
Mmm perhaps
That’s assuming replicator replicates Dino’s and not EIP’s
Which could honestly be something we don’t know about
Something that we dont know yet
Mhm, I try not to stick 100% to ideas and stay open to new ones, like when we switched our opinions on if EIPS are canon
Smart
Really big brain switch for me
I strictly believed EIPs are for legacy, and they should stay there.
But then EIPs make so much sense with a lot of theories
That’s why I was lowkey trying to convert you
I hated it too, but like you said, it was basically the missing link in a few theories
Now we’ve got rival companies returning as well
Wonder if operation inferno will come back
One thing I will miss and know won’t come back is magna Rex, it was really a cool model imo, maybe they’ll have something similar but something tells me the rivals aren’t Dino makers like Pheonix was
If it’s a rival, I imagine they probably do more, closer to what Apollo does by having various subsidiaries
Doesn't have to
Could just be a rival in pharmaceutical technology
So it’s a rival to Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, rather than AE?
Apollo could view the company as a rival even tho its only a rival to one subsidiary
AE is the one that does the acts against the rival companies yes
But that doesn't mean Apollo isn't the one pulling the strings

Did Don specify that it's only a rival to AE, or does Apollo view it as a rival too.
Looks like you brought up rival company in abstract and Don responded to that https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1268420031432097874/image0.jpg?ex=66b24a75&is=66b0f8f5&hm=fb6feba1f7d45156d18c5e4a658d70c93d0521796b852c43aceda5b688c11916&
it's interesting to wonder if Gen 1 aren't as savage and wild as their appearance would lead one to believe
Would be fun to learn of a team of Gen 1's kitted out in tactical gear
feathery or furry ones made for cold weather
I like to view them as bloodthirsty savages 
I think the ones "worshipping" the replicator are
But maybe somewhere in AE's history of using them we had some with cognizant EIP's that could follow orders
The worshipping could've happened after the "incidents".
Maybe gen1s worshipping the replicator was one of the incidents.
They just no longer were under AEs control

I agree, sort of like combat dogs (I will never let go of the gen 1 to dog comparison because I think it fits so well)
Some of them aren’t smart enough to worship iirc
Mmm, that's new news for me
I think AE left for whatever reason(s), then gen 1 started working with the replicator
I just thought of something
Don said the world wasn't like what we're used to anymore, right ?
What if Gen 1s were used as a vanguard to reclaim lost lands ?
Dogs that you have very little control under
Very powerful and poorly trained dogs
Doesn't answer the question of what happens to them once their job is done tho
Because I assume they might be a serious drawback to sending actual people there if they just stay where they've been put
That's assuming that they lost those islands to a rival company tho
Make them starve out and die, new ones can be made 
Or maybe that's were EIPs come into play ? Gen 1s would be literally avatars
We had a whole conversation about this a fee days ago, our conclusion is that AE can only attack things that are illegal or things that the victim company doesn’t want others to know about
Maybe
We should ask Don what EIPs can control.
Could it be any AE live asset? Or just Dinosaurs and gen2.
Mhm
We know nothing about EIPs, dinos and gen 2 aren’t a guarantee either 
That just makes the question more worth it to ask

And I assume something like once the controlling guy's mind leaves the body, it just dies
And the fact there are Gen 1s roaming around in the island and causing trouble might be because either
- For some reason they stayed alive without a person's mind inside them
- The ones controlling them refused to, or couldn't leave the body
Which island?
I assume Gateway ? Unless Gen 1s aren't canonically supposed to be there
(although they're not here yet but it's safe to assume gateway will still be a thing once they're released)
Don was directing us to the idea that Gen1 aren't on gateway
Or they just disable spawns on gateway for them, atleast on officials
Oh I see
There might be a new map by the time gen1s are added
Maybe new map designers are hired
He's playing us fools
I don’t believe so, but it hasn’t been hard confirmed, just implied
When
No one island has dinosaurs, gen 1, gen 2, and normal humans
I wanna say everything potentially being playable all together is purely for gameplay yeah. Different things existed on the island at different times.
I wonder if that counts as an in-universe reasoning for potential "poorly balanced" matchups 
"Welp, AE never intended for these two creatures to exist together sooooo tsk, sorry."
wHY did you leave a hyper carno in an open field?!? There’s a reason we kept it underground!
When replying to a question about gen1 on gateway iirc
I don't believe that truly refers to Gateway not having Gen1s though
Why not?
The context was gateway and gen1s tho
Or should we ignore the context 🤔
Actually I only remember the context containing gen1, not sure about the gateway part
I mean, we know that gateway has dinosaurs, and has definitely had gen 2 or humans in the past, potentially both, and I feel like we haven’t seen anything indicating a gen 1 presence on the island, though that last one may be a result of gateway being unfinished, I feel like through the process of elimination, we can at least say it’s unlikely that gen 1 are on gateway
soon
soon™
soon
Punch ignored/Didnt see my gen2 questions 
NV
Same
One way to find out if they are added this patch.
LORE?
Well, its probably a cinematic trailer actually. So I doubt the lore..

Update dropped, waiting for the announcement.
I'll pull an all nighter searching for LORE
Doubt theres anything new
Please
just maybe...
Doubt, but hopin
what are we gonna do if docks are added
Insane.
bring back docktahs
Not that

OwOmnis *
It will probably show dinos like maia trike and rex
Once again
If there is a trailer
Ik but im keeping my hopes up
There will be one, I hope
Told you
YEEE
RAHHHHHHHH
Allo or raptors?
That breathing says big boy so prob Allo
Its a rex
Overall great trailer, I’m happy we finally got some dilo stuff
I didn’t wanna say anything Rex related cause you already said Allo and I don’t want to go down that hole again lol
It’s a rex
Yea
New trailer is hella cool tho, my appreciation to Seiza
#isle-discussion message could this work? 
Yeh, it’s amazing how great a trailer can look with just perfect angle and a few filters here and there
I was looking at the dew flap like AUGUSTUS
The galli run to diablo sparring was smoother than butter
I swear to god if this is allo and rex discussion again I am going to cry
i thought an allo would have bulkier arms than that
Its clearly a rex, no need.
its a rex
I’m not even doing any debate that’s why I just went with ceras Allo answer lol
You’d think that though won’t you, but then you check isle-discussion
Cause clearly wasn’t a raptor
Its clearly a rex, I lost hope if people start shadow discussion 2.0
Sadly no lore in the trailer
I like how the update trailers at least stay the same style
well
"wild-born"
and the CO2 thing with bees, but thats not too much of anything
there's no way that thing is a rex, way too small, and that arm is LONG
but i dont think its an allo either. literally no idea
Hmm what?
2 fingers...
We get to go check if any secret mutations have been added between this version and hordetest (pattern recognition)
Its a zoomed in image on the rex, thats why it looks long.
The fingers look short and idk how to say this, bumpy? Like rexs model has so that’s why I thought Rex when I saw it
alberto 
in the part explaining mutations
Ngl I would be so happy if it started development lol
That music in the trailer 
Ikr
Thats not lore
Fresh soundtrack
i mean, it kinda is
Its just explaining how nested animals have more mutations than spawned in animals 
Now when are they gonna scrap all of the crappy soundtracks and implant this perfect music
How 🤔
its world-building, as it implies that not all the animals are wild born
nothing we didnt know tho
You are overthinking it..
Could maybe be saying that nested animals have more potential who knows
Oh actually, I just started overthinking.. It makes sense.
Shadow this is like the theory from a few hours ago- Natural offspring are different from lab grown assets.
Potentially stronger, and contain more potential.
anyone check to see if the docks got added yet?
No
mmm... pattern recognition
Oh updates out?
Yes.
Hmm
Well not again, I'm just still image muted
Ima go check out perimeter
Shadow needs to update the server- or does it do it automatically?
@meager junco
Oh yeh
Auto
Time to scour the map in 30 seconds
Ok good
Everyone git on
Im on
Lowkey forgot about my server
what server
Shirleys kingdom
Taking a minute for me to get on
oh ive been there before, its yours? lol
Yeh
I'm on
I just mess around on admin commands
Im still on the loading screen..
Same
cant find any unofficials...
Shirley may be updating
Maybe it’s doing that weird glitch it used to do, where you had to do a special method to get into a server
I’ll hop on and check
Mmm maybe
any info on Gen 2's?
Nice
Woop woop
Finally damn it I can retest the stat times
I can now work on my video ideas 
I have purpose again!
My waiting is over
is the third person cam back
cant join the server apparently
Then how tf do you know
I'm just gonna join some spanish sandbox server
Lemme check the things
What? I said I didn't know if they had 3rd person
The gen 2 is back part
I joined a server, didn't play but saw the gen 2 button, left to join shirley and it didnt work
I'll stream in lore chat
Thats a bug with the button where it appears for 2 seconds and then disappears-
I'm literally playing it
As gen2? Oh
You can see the server tho correct?
No
yes
Alr
about to
So...news...they can't use the gun and they fall backwards when they punch
lol
cant join
LOL
Aint nothing wrong with that I'm cooking with it anyway
Aslong as they can use the flashlight its perfect for me
They only fall backward if they punch from a standstill
It works
Yay
Oh I crashed...
Eh, like surviving is hard on Shirley’s kingdom 
Same
voids oasis maybe
Are people saying unnoficials down in regular chat?
Yes
Ah
But I played other ones for a bit
Well shi- This is the Dilo/Herrera update situation..
Ok I just get scared my bill didn’t get paid or something
norden is good
Do admin is there
Yes gen 2
there is no gen 2 on norden
Oh yeah
Damn it I need a server where I have admin. We gotta check for map changes, and I'm gonna spend time testing gen 2 and growth times
They forgot to add dibble...?
ive got an idea
Give it a few minutes
Hm might be something with the data, might be taking its time to upload
(Talking about server data)
i might have cooked
Since I don’t think unnoficials usually delete Dino’s
how
nvm
Im in
i aint
They added a gate
is that on the right of the entrance
or left
There was already one on the left iirc?
The right
because left always had a gate
Oh
They have a gate on both sides now
So no more foliage in the concrete?
where
Perm
Nothing new in Perimeter except the new gate, checked.
erm
But new as in map changes during HT or new as in new just now, this patch specifically
HT
oh
Yes
Damnit
H6 checked.
I don't see northeast docks coming for a decent-ish amount of time maybe idk
Looked pretty finished to me
Prob next big update is my guess
im guessing along with the new NV
Nice- lol
update?
I'm just playing regular servers now
i dont think theyre re-enabled yet
They are
oh
false
NO
They cant use guns and fall on their ass when they try to punch
aint no way they took my advice on the guns
petite pies gen 2 here i come
I'm glad this place is calm and smart and the other discussion aint good
No it's just a bug lmao
calm whenever im not around at least
They can hold the gun and change gun modes but cant fire
ugh
Gen 2 is basically just walk around till you die on regular servers atm
I dont even have mutations
Or test it's stats for 5 hours
Might get an update
another update
there is
was pushed
Ah
Stego can break fences
how does breakable stuff work
does it shatter into physical pieces, does it just disappear, etc
and which fences
surely not the big ones lol
Nevermind- Its still only 1 place where stego can break a fence.
it's the normal ones around human bases and such
the chain link ones?
These
ohhhh those
probably electrified when operational, from the look of em
I dont think the electricity would stop a stego ngl
10000 volts would definitely be something
https://gyazo.com/618353d0257b0a6d555f93e4a21ddac3
or radio radiation..
we can tag punchpacket right?
my game recently updated and i turned back to old version 0.14 is just me?
Depends how much
depends on the mind
a wild animal probably would get a bit of a shock and walk away
an EIP might try to break through, and probably could
Also since you're in game right now can you confirm if the soft lighting really was removed or not?
Because I saw stuff about that in feedback earlier
Is shirley down
Im installing the new patch, gimme a sec
I'm in the new patch I can't see it
Yeah it's just low chance he'll do anything
a player would
I would still imagine, in-lore, an EIP would still adhere to pain and shock to be afraid of most dosages of electricity
noooo
I'm just thinking a dedicated stego could deliver a single brutal swing to tear the fence open if necessary, and just tank the damage. Depends on how badly they need to get inside
Isle discussion is insane right now
i don't doubt a stego could
but I doubt a stego would
unless EIPs turn true craze and start just purely playing chaos without any care for their life
that's what I'm saying, if it's a person in there and they are dedicated enough/their life depended on it, they could do it even if it sucks
YAY-DAMNIT
Yep, I was sad.
What about the consequences of the contract? Would there be any impact there
I still just doubt an EIP would
especially while in the active service of AE
i can see them doing it "post-control" over islands such as Gateway
EIPs have 1000 lives, who cares 
But thats only if they actually know that and are confident in that, and thats only if they want to experience the pain
I don't think anyone here knows the true pain of an insane voltage like that
Server is fine now tho?
Still downloading the patch
Damn
my nannu does
that long? I've got that patch but server aint workin
grandfather
Would he intentionally do it?
No.
Yep
not at all.
Correct
but let's say you have 1000 lives
how much pain is the bar to pass? the bar of pain
My mom got struck by lighting once
I can’t see it 
how much will you take, knowing that you have 999 more options?
I gotta do a little hand treatment that involves water with literally like 20 volts of electricity flowing through it, and that can be painful with an exposed cut. So imagine the sheer voltage of like you said lightning or a fence
There has to be at least some hesitation, unless you are a pyschopath 
But
Hugh Jackman would power through it fr

The wolverine
Holy crap theres a server with 35x growthtime
Yoink
Time to be a hypsi
Well lets see
I was boutta say
How quick the hypsi grow?
Value is able to be raised now so it’s possible
I’d have to check my configurations
I literally instantly grw
oh so they just added more options, nice
A lot
Time to be deino
so only the last mutation slot?
Mutations arent even available for me
I cannot seem to find Shirley’s Kingdom..
I can't access mutations
Yeah it rolled back
It might be updated let me check
That’s annoying.
Oh its version 14
What the bruh
WHY DID WE GET SENT BACK IN TIMEEE
Hopefully everything is stable before next week, so we can get the NV HT
Ew no hordetest needed for that
The nv..
My precious
genuine question why do steam updates kill discord temporarily
especially isle ones
Might be needed incase there is bugs,
They still need to fix some major bugs, diet bug is one of em
Alright I'm testing the growth as a dryo
hordetest for one missing patch of grass wen 💪
I'm gonna be grown in like a minute
Nope
i may or may not check the patch out on shoreleys tomorrow
Game is on an old version too so it doesn't matter
Its version 14, we got send back in time
yay
time travel confirmed
I wanna find that faking leg break mutation.
One of the toggleable mutations in the config options seems to be it
Or has a name that leads me to think it is it
Whats the name?
breaka legga
Handicap Faker
paratrepsis
its a fancy word for distraction display
a good example is kildeer, who fake a broken wing to lure things away
yeah no it's breaka legga
we don't use fancy words here
you're so right
thanks!
yay!
Someone ping me when we get version 15 back
aussie spotted
tbh I love australian slang, it's fun
hey!
we didnt get it back yet
oh
just gotta let you know
I will cancel quetz
you will destroy mesoamerican mythology and the bird!?!?!
thats CRAZY
yes
oh
Very pretty colors
Cumors..?
Peace and quiet
i saw one of these in my backyard once
Comors actually
I saw the typo for .5 seconds
No Isle yet?
Time to play Noita
watching a video that tells me he can tell me when winds of winter is coming...
but he sounds like Bert
actually no. Ernie
who did the video?
Whats Winds of Winter, educate my uneducated brain.
AdmiralKird
next book for a song of ice and fire
it's been 13 years...
I see
A book for a sequel to a song :O
omg
he's using the sharks from 12oz Mouse?

What song is used in the trailer?
Dinosaurs are made for money the end
Guys guys, rex or not rex?
lol
Okay someone break it down for me. Isle lore, go
Y’all teach the masses the lore I’ll keep advertising
Dinosaurs make mony the ened
I think the answer is obvious from a lore perspective
very helpful
what have you done
YOU BROUGHT THEM HERE?
Yes I was invited
May we migrate to the server
Lorecord reminds me of the VoC
oh yeah I hear the Ernie 
The what
oh yeah I forget about this channel
lol
ty
oh i just noticed the video has motion blur on
Yeah I saw that when the dilo ate
same lol
several, I'll find their names
Why is Lore chat active
To excape the hellhole that is #isle-discussion
It was dead 2 minutes ago
Should I dm krow for my image perms back because I feel like getting y'know...might've also come with image perms back
didn't krow retire
no
oh wait nvm, that was saoul mb
Saoul retired twice lol
So shold I do it or ny
erm, I think someone is editing the doc for lore...
he was our only hope of dropping the filter 😔
l
he tested the filter on me
I doubt he would drop it...
WHAT ARE YOU DOING JOLLY
e
JOLLY DON'T BRING THE ANIMALS TO US!
hehe
They're savages
Herrera song is from legacy
called Herbivore Large
why yall trying to segregate the lore 💀
i mean
legacy vs evrima...
i mean, those are two different things, but to call the folk savages!?
What lore y'all got? 
teach them, yessss
here
Gen1s airdrop
teach EVERYONE
Really?! 
yes
Alright it’s game time boyos
Carnos gonna have a field day eating all these dibbles
oh sorry here's the gif version
Version 15 back?
maybe
yes
Alr
Ok time to do a community duty and check the rex teaser location
Northeast lake area, to the right if the river if you’re looking north, you’re right tho, at this point you can’t really be too sure lol
Whus this for?! 
Mhm
Diabloceratops migration data, taken from frames interspersed in the (first) dibble video
come to australia
Isnt Australian internet 3x worse
5mb is pretty fast for us!!
Was it right, owo?

Share some..
If y'all ask nicely, I can make videos real smol. 
im running on polish piwo for internet speed rn
I took all the frames showing the map data in the video and stuck them together
but it isn't made by us, it was part of the video
Shirley’s Kingdom ain’t letting me in again 
Hold Shirley hostage
Oh nvm.
See, all I had to do is simply threaten shirley.
But was it correct, owo?
The migration path, yes.
just give it 14 seconds
It patching on your sllow HDD, give it time, owo.
oh, its downloaded now
Keeeeeeeewl OwO!
see!@!!!!
I should never doubt Bob Sherman, my boss.
We only saw the dibbles in one place on the video, but that spot is along their path in the migration data
Im in a server. Expedition time.
I got kicked out and the server list isnt loading REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
IM ABOUTA DATA ACQUISITION FAIL YOU
had to check to be sure...
🫡
I also checked perimeter earlier, they only added a gate. Thats it.
and didn't screenshot? -40% reduction in your non-existent wages
I did, scroll up
Im never wrong and simply choose not to believe you
( i saw it )
is this on shirleys
No
Cant get in Shirley
Ok so its actually this spot
Diablo Nest in Trailer: -408,504.167, 338,098.991, 40,790.793
Rex Ambush spot: -410,067.393, 331,947.292, 40,570.745
(Note the ambush spot location doesnt have the same bushes as in the trailer)
The rex was a decent distance away, camera effects make it look super close
Well don’t double click connect
Insta crash lol
or it's just in the editor
so the foliage could've been different because it's not running off normal gateway that we have
yes
Are you saying that you rock? 
Im a rock
the rock
quite literally
lol
@meager junco Btw heres the error code when I try to get into Shirley, idk if that would help at all.
Yeh same for me, I think it’s got something to do with the new server settings
Oh just saw your isle discussion message
Did you disable em yet?
Let’s see if it works
Mmmm, tell me when you disable it and restart
I am now it’s just connecting
alr
Seems like a no go for that method
Hmm, I see the server
I do too but won’t load me in
I’ll try changing some stuff in configs and see if it changes anything
But I feel like this is just a bug
probably
why
Duck is awake btw
Oh
He wanted to know if disabling mutations fixes the bug of not being able to join a server for some odd reason
interesting
The Isle Dinosaurs are on a island that takes place in the 90s each update that happens the dinosaurs 🦖 are killed by the humans 🌚
That's why we are starting to see guns
Abd more vehicles
The BIOS was last updated in the 90s, we’ve seen guns and vehicles in the past
You will always in the lore channel
I||’m trapped here|| live here
It's likely early/mid 2000s when we play
Good morning lorechat
howdy there Cerato
What is your lore theory about the Isle
which
The one about reshaping the world to fit climate change
I mean @lethal moat
which theory
There's still like 50000 theories 
exactly
I’m not going to say anything on EIPs or thousand life contract because we know too little
^ DOES NOT BELIEVE
Fire him
back in ye olden days of lore theories
we usually just make theories out of nowhere
Skippity toilet lives on the island
I need evidence!
Just gotta assume everything.
bad cerato
Nuh uh!
Assume............Theorise............Know
Bad..................Accepted...........Impossible
I bet it’s not on one of the islands
Probably some nice skyscraper in a city somewhere
I believe it to be something akin to Perm
that whole Site
OLYMPUS is a designation for an area right?
unknown location/site/facility
Ok then I'm betting it's either an island or its Perimeter
at least from what we know
it's likely not at H6 (OLYMPUS)
Perm does fit the whole paper, honestly
But then the external connection was from Olympus
yes
Which could mean its not on Gateway
OLYMPUS not Olympus CC
But isn't Olympus CC in Olympus
that's more defined than OLYMPUS is, at least
NOOO
That's totally very smart and won't lead to any rival company spy to try and get to Olympus CC 
Totally...
Let me have my fun
fired!
Woah
I think the stationary is probably perimeter
it makes sense
unless it truly is of OLYMPUS itself
just weird with stuff like Exterior State and GUTS Access Route
I doubt that tbh
It fits perfectly with perimeter, I agree.
But whose gonna ask Don to give a clue on where that is... so we can be more confident in the answer..
Olympus controlling all of Apollo would probably be more public facing than in the middle of dinosaur island
if OLYMPUS is their big HQ-esque thing
would putting such right at the gateway to Tartarus a smart move?
Alongside, placing their "HQ" in the middle of nowhere with tons of dinosaurs?
Does it help for CEO and board monitoring
But it's just a bit more convenient with a lot more dangers
Worst case is that it's the opposite from what we think it is
I feel like hierarchy is also important to consider, is there direct oversight from the leaders of Apollo to control AE, or is it a game of telephone?
Olympus transmitter to contact the leadership...
from what Don talked prior? Maybe not proper hard modern corporate 1:1 with direct lines to everything
more like a feudal empire
Kingdoms and Duchies and Counties all working towards the empire
but with their own little aspects and goals - and their own little idea of how APOLLO should work
Well there’s a council and then a ceo, or vice versa, so that also changes a bit
Something didn’t just happen on gateway, there were major changes that happened in AE’s governance at some point in the story
Which I’m SURE had NOTHING to do with the events of the incident due to MISMANAGEMENT
Titanomachy 
Now, is the replicator both Atlas and the golden apples?
or even more destructed to the likes of death with Gigantomachy
I mean
We do have a reference to GOLEMs with Gen1s..
but that's Jewish Mythology (2nd reference!!)
I’m talking about the gold, silver, and I think copper? I’m not sure what we’re made from in greek mythos, I haven’t reread that legend in awhile
mud
dirt is more like how golems were made in jewish mythology
Also, on a somewhat related note, we technically have the capacity to recreate dinosaurs and grow them in artificial wombs, but it would be expensive and time consuming
Maybe researching artificial wombs would be useful for knowledge on vats
depends on how the creation of these animals/clones/beings/creations are
is it more like Star Wars Clones
Where you have to wait for these creatures to grow
or can you pick and choose
and with that
can Apollo choose what they prefer?
I’m hoping for more realism
I mean
The Replicator is called "the replicator"
I open the chat again to see this pop right in front of my face
it may literally be 1:1 with growth as well
Growing baby animals using tubes is a thing in lore
for an EIP, for example, can they have a creature at full adult for their body -being if an EIP is put into a dinosaur, Gen2 or whatever?
Or do they want everything to be the same, AE
I feel like I keep missing a lot of stuff
I believe that lamb was transferred into the embrotic bag, but it might be possible to grow it from an egg
I’m talking about an irl comparison to vats
Ohh
Hehe, toddler eip
Grab a gun and start blasting
7/10 mid movie
Assuming the EIP has full control of the body
when is 7/10 = mid...
but that depends still
do the vats allow for hyper accentuated growth
It's the middle sweet spot between good and bad
maths ain't mathing
More static on the screen than ususal
lore
American grading system
More static = new lore
When choosing herbi it's static only
Is our PC falling apart trying to process the Rex creation next?
Do they transfer between vats or just stick them in a massive tank
I wouldn't be surprised if it's just a UI glitch
we don't really have a proper one (UI dev)
and a lot of UI stuff amarok uses usually breaks lol
That computer is the replicator...
Please no let us have fun just a little bit 😭
(Maybe, likely not)
UI rework horsetest would be crazy
what did I say about assumption vs theorisation
yes
possibly
We have no confirmation yet, therefore, theory
Yayyyeyea
But I will stand on my theory to the last
I doubt it's soon
thanks
Time to do an internal investigation to see what all we assume is confirmed vs assumption
Exactly
Ok
It gets mixed between "yeah thats 100% right" and "no I just think it is"
