isle-lore-theories

[valid geyser]

Plot twist, now YOU’RE being pushed in the pit

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mi-sotano-gif-21569558

[acoustic osprey]

altar...

[lethal moat]

What is at the bottom

[lethal moat]

Potato tomato

[acoustic osprey]

erm!!!

[lethal moat]

Tomato

The altar could be a dissection table

Looks altar-esque

[acoustic osprey]

just without the gen1s

[lethal moat]

For now

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

[lethal moat]

I am curious to know how many islands AE has and which ones have what on them

[acoustic osprey]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography
I forgot that this exists

and now that makes me scared

[acoustic osprey]

at least, 2

[lethal moat]

Uh oh
Those tree creaks were heard in the middle of an empty field and now you’re thinking it wasn’t a tree

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-disintegrate-half-life2-hl2-gif-23941439

scared if Don has/will do anything like this

like
the youtube url being on the camera stumped me for a while

but something like that... so many variables. lol

[lethal moat]

I’m more worried about things like locks or riddles tbh

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
riddles aren't that hard

more communicable with the community makes them, technically, better to do

we also already deal with them!! (with every thing said by Dondi, ever)

ALTHOUGH
anything that makes the community work together, and not seperate them, is also really nice though

[lethal moat]

Cryptic comments and riddles aren’t the same, and if you have to use the solution to a riddle to solve a puzzle, it might take awhile
For example, the answer being Omniraptor, you then have to go to a different location in order to get more information

[lethal moat]

Lorecord would go nuts over a riddle lol

[acoustic osprey]

one might say cryptic comments are riddles without the common rhyme or literay symbolism

but
riddles would be very interesting to be made but would still be very enjoyable

the only thing though
how would you do it?

if anything
i'd imagine either a riddle out-of-game

or something less "upfront" and in your face

[lethal moat]

A notebook of a past employee who was an amateur poet

[acoustic osprey]

like you actually need to find the riddle (more so find it by chance)

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[lethal moat]

Or potentially
Strange syntax from creatures like neuros or the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

would be interesting

heck
what if to get the riddle

you must search for bits of the riddle

some morse (about 1/4th)
"strange syntax from X" (another 1/4th)
etc

[lethal moat]

Sorting out which lines go where and what sort of structure would be a nightmare

[acoustic osprey]

nightmare and something we'd very very very much need and want

LORECORD cries for it

[nimble fractal]

If we ever get a riddle dont ever call me because I can't solve even the childish ones where the answer is "river" or "sun" or smth. XDD

[acoustic osprey]

cloud

you failed the riddle.

[nimble fractal]

😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/black-noir-the-boys-the-boys-black-noir-no-no-no-the-boys-no-gif-10930181629543872562

[lethal moat]

I like literal riddles, where the answer is an object or a location, rather than a concept, like time or death or whatever

[nimble fractal]

Same

[acoustic osprey]

for something like this, in terms of the isle lore
Conceptual riddles would probably be something I hope we don't really ever get

[nimble fractal]

I mean, they don't even really fit

[acoustic osprey]

i much prefer the game's themes communicating with such concepts
then something like a riddle

if anything
a riddle would be a better way to "level up" the next LORE HUNT

our 1st was simple
Don tells us - we search and failed terribly for ages.
Till we find it and it was a youtube link

2nd could be a lot more developed, as per hinted by Don i believe?

have a riddle
nothing too complex. Of course, it's easier said than done

but knowing Dondi, he can very easily confuse us with his words for the better of lore (lol)

I'd still have the "2nd" hunt relatively simple
aka. Split into two like the last
(well, technically three)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

I’ll be happy with anything tbh

[acoustic osprey]

find the riddle (by chance) ~ aka, this would be Dondi telling us to look out, for the last Lore Hunt
solve the riddle ~ aka, us finding the camera
now solve the riddle ~ aka, solving the camera words

[acoustic osprey]

you can't just say that!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-too-bad-lego-gif-14178651

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-k2so-please-do-not-resist-dont-resist-star-wars-gif-22411289

[lethal moat]

Pattern recognition + radio stuff and whatnot 🤞

I am interested to see how the map changes as humans move into a more focused development role

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

actually have physical lore around the isles

no more lorem ipsum
so we're getting closer... one day at a time

[lethal moat]

I’m kind of hoping they drop a lot at once, like docks + monorail + GUTS in one update

Even if it takes longer, more at once would be pretty exciting

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

crazy to think this time 5 years ago I was basically in the same place as I am today

quite literally, at home
but also at the same mindset

"oh man, i can't wait for the next few years of the isle"

like literally
5 years ago? Recode
Now today? Humans and everything with them

just the prospect of the map being, more or less, complete with actual "lore" (more or less) on the map

with GUTS, underground aspects, proper working docs and functioning human gameplay

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-mcu-exhale-thanos-infinity-stone-gif-16660976

almost 10 years now in the community, getting there

will I have be Thanos sitting in his farm, relaxing, staring at the sun and thinking "man, the isle is basically finished"?
No

but do I like the idea of feeling like we're actually getting there? Yes, very much indeed

i don't think I can truly verbally describe how much joy i got, communally, out of The (Lore) Hunt

[lethal moat]

I enjoyed watching everyone come together and work towards something, even if we could have done it a lot easier

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol

was just looking at older messages

many references to it actually being easy/not that complex/no need to go crazy about

[lethal moat]

If you have a hammer, every problem looks like a nail

[acoustic osprey]

lol

in hindsight
it's definitely a very easy and relatively simple hunt

honestly
if they announced it in any proper way
it would've been found in less than a day

100%

as much as I don't wanna gatekeep anything like this of the sorts
i do prefer these things being more niche

[lethal moat]

I’d like everyone to have the chance

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
bombarding through an announcement that "lore can be found"
is just a bit too much

albeit
that's a bit hypocritical of me though

have to look back at the ERRANT-291 post, plus AUGUSTUS and Dibble
(mostly 291 though)

they were all officially announced on the discord

but i think there should be a point in how straight forward Don should do it

Definitely nothing of the sort of saying "Guys, lore can be found, we want to FIND the X riddle!"

i do like Don having these hunts being linked to these things though - which is how they should be done, at least for the most part

something so silly to overlook
but literally what we were looking for was the TCAM from the dibble video

if only we read the description of the video properly. lol

all right
that'll be enough yapping about the hunt from me

I'm gonna play Ck3 lol

[lethal moat]

Or even slowed down a second to think before acting

[acoustic osprey]

unless a proper lore discussion happens

[acoustic osprey]

the amount of things we overlooked due to our haste is pretty funny
but a great note point for the next

heck

if Dondi doesn't ever announce another one of these
being only shadow dropped
I think looking at everything sent, bit by bit, day by day, is always good

who knows what the next (if ever) may be about

[acoustic osprey]

||to be fair, I do this from time to time for your doc anyways...||

[lethal moat]

I usually try to remember obscure little bits and pieces from streams, since that’s what we tend to focus on the least

[acoustic osprey]

fair fair

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[icy onyx]

bros a mod now

https://tenor.com/view/sad-5opka-mr5opka-gif-8061287621742098135

[lethal moat]

Yeah, for roughly a month

[hexed forge]

He was gone for a month doing IRL stuff, he missed the lore hunt

[lethal moat]

Damn

[lethal moat]

There’s got to be at least one instance of another company going “why does Apollo need so much of (very specific material)” and launching an investigation right?

[hexed forge]

And then AE just throws money at them and tells them to quiet down.

'

[patent ginkgo]

they keep poking? fine, give them up close and personal access to one of the most secret projects, the Gen 1

[hexed forge]

I assume you are referring to AE airdropping like 11 gen1s on an island of another company

[patent ginkgo]

yes

[lethal moat]

You know that scene from Venom where he locks the scientist in the room with the symbiote?

[patent ginkgo]

Nah cause I haven’t watched it

But I know what would happen I think

[lethal moat]

That’s what I’m thinking, but like Cerato said, just as likely (probably more likely) for the thing we already know

[hexed forge]

Heres what I have been working on for the past 3 hours..First step in my second project. Lemme know if you have any feedback (Not finalized)

[hexed forge]

What did I say?

[lethal moat]

The dropping gen 1 thing that dondi told us about

[hexed forge]

Oh I see

[hexed forge]

Just noticed a grammar mistake with "Field"

[lethal moat]

Lol

[hexed forge]

By the way- you are the user using the computer

You will never escape the doctor allegations

Another issue spotted, visible for only like 1 frame.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-cute-slap-funny-gif-16889452

[zenith frigate]

Feild?

am i spelling this wrong or are you

Field

should be field

[fast forge]

I don't think the word "Issues" should be in yellow. DOS prompts and BIOS are characteristically monochromatic, I think

[hexed forge]

Me

I fixed it already

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, Im going to keep it yellow.

There was a case in the Augustus video of some text being yellow iirc, it was on the camera section "Movement detected"

But I dont think thats a DOS/BIOS prompt

Not sure

[fast forge]

Rewatching, it used orange and yellow text within the program for the live MCAMs, but not the menu/DOS/BIOS style section

But the camera system does use the same size/font/color as the menu, so I suppose it's in the correct style

[fast forge]

I wonder if AUGUSTUS is the reason Gen 1 can climb

[lethal moat]

First of many dominos?

[hexed forge]

Doubt

[acoustic osprey]

another Daviid cameo

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hes-back-gif-8275005

Theres glitching in the Augustus video, is that orange text?

[lethal moat]

I think it’s just glitchiness

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
unintelligible

[hexed forge]

👍

[fast forge]

Bob Sherman, what you think

[lethal moat]

Lets do some more gen 1 theory crafting

They’re at least smart enough to have light sources, which I would presume to mean they’re smart enough to know they’re more efficient when hunting in groups
So gen 1 are likely somewhat social as an extrapolation of how intelligent they are

[fast forge]

While we can't say for certain just what Gen 1 are, we can hypothesize that they are a chimera, made up of DNA from different animals
If so, what do you thin went into the Gen 1 stew? I think herrera and human, at least

[lethal moat]

Ehhh, I’m betting it’s mostly human, since we are a variable species, and gen 1 also has variation

[hexed forge]

There are also different kinds of gen1 iirc. So I wonder if they are smart enough to create a small functional "society" in the group.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though
AUGUSTUS was far more behavioural than physical

if anything, potentially?

[lethal moat]

Potential hierarchy

[acoustic osprey]

it just depends

Did they make Herrerasaurus for climbing, but they just never did?
Or was it just a general "oh, they climb now"

[lethal moat]

I feel like it’s the latter

[hexed forge]

Why dinosaurs?

For me, it seems like it's way more likely for gen1 to be a failed attempt to create the perfect human.

Sooo, gen1 will probably be more human, and no dinosaur stuff. Perhaps a mix of strain DNA

And gen2 is the perfect mix of strain DNA that caused the "perfect" factor in human

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/95698b0fc4d31407376b9da14869c401

reminds me of old stuff (was looking at old stuff in the channel)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[acoustic osprey]

I just hope
anything actually fully linked with lore - like with Khorne
is actually people within the community

having something officially announced
then someone random finds it and gate keeps

would just be very disappointing

albeit
I don't mind it happening; c'est la vie

[lethal moat]

But to have it be archived and organized by the group made to do so, that would be ideal

[acoustic osprey]

but every bit of findable lore being officially announced may just lead to disappointments with the actual lore community

[acoustic osprey]

if only every human was easily workable with communication!!

but
we'll just have to hope

officially announced or not

that whomever finds it, like with the last hunt, is able to communicate it properly

don't mind if it's not sent in Lorecord

just if it can be reached faster, than "5 years in the future"

[lethal moat]

The first person is playing the game for the first time and accidentally wanders into Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

like the thing Dondi said about turning off the official servers lol

albeit
it would be funny to see some non-lore-peeps just walk into something as advanced as Tartarus

[fast forge]

they just opened the volcano cave in that last update, and no one checked

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-joe-pesci-pesci-what-gif-10718026964868693743

[lethal moat]

I would like to take someone randomly who is new to the game, and guide them directly to some conspiracy theory stuff lol

[acoustic osprey]

oh really? nice

has replay been working for anyone this HT? as in recording

[fast forge]

haven't tried it

[fast forge]

no not really

[acoustic osprey]

wow thanks

[fast forge]

At least, I haven't checked...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

[lethal moat]

Olympus transmitter my beloved

[acoustic osprey]

OFFLINE!!

i like to believe it being offline is both a reference to the twitter account being turned off shortly prior
and actual lore

that something had "turned it off"

how though? Who knows, yet.

I do wonder if we'll ever be able to actually timeline these smaller and obscure events

especially ERRANT-291

[lethal moat]

Having access to server logs for stuff like that could be useful

[acoustic osprey]

Don't wanna make it too easy

[lethal moat]

Find your own employee passcode or steal one off of a corpse

[acoustic osprey]

more so referring to piecing it together because of references to thing that are referenced in these things

like

not saying
ERRANT-291 happened in X, Y then Z days

but
we know Olympus Transmitter is offline

oh my this other lore has Olympus Transmitter being inactive as well

allow us to try and piece together a timeline

rather than just giving us information for the sake of it

personally, I prefer more of a show don't tell with worldbuilding like such

even as convenient as it would be to give some sort of server log with lore details

it's just a bit too easy
and takes a lot of the fun away

[lethal moat]

Maybe compare it to other events and string them together

[acoustic osprey]

basically this with #isle-lore-theories message this

obviously we can't know everything exactly to the 1:1
but
having some sort of "Lore board" with events and the such

whether a physical board
or maybe something more community built online
or just something more mental

[lethal moat]

"This is the last day an employee clocked in, and from this note, we know that this person was hiding for weeks before they died"

[acoustic osprey]

if Obsidian was more easier for community working
I'd say that

[acoustic osprey]

gives some buffer time between
sometime within this time, Olympus Transmitter went offline and "X" employee had search [REDACTED] Site through Facility G through B, A, C gates highlighted via "X" employee's note

[lethal moat]

I'd be fine with a "reasonable margin of error" rather than specific dates

[acoustic osprey]

no other facilities seem to have been compromised

[acoustic osprey]

for lore
i think it's definitely fine

we know
at least
the events seem to have happened over three days - by finding the dates given on the summary, that were hidden

but besides from that
i don't mind having rough times for aspects

nothing can truly be accurate, which makes everything more believable. Honestly.

[lethal moat]

Having gateway be abandoned for an unknown amount of time might also be good, just let people constantly guess

[acoustic osprey]

still would like the ability to estimate
but nothing defined would be good

[clear plume]

How did you make this if you don't mind me asking?

[acoustic osprey]

(Davinci Resolve)

[fast forge]

Terminus?

and a new errant?

[acoustic osprey]

(God of boundary markers)

[fast forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

best Roman god to exist

probably besides from Janus

[fast forge]

btw, any guesses at what USGX stands for?

[acoustic osprey]

I laugh at the face of USGX
(I do not, I am very scared)

my dibble video's script contains around 10 minutes of me thinking of what it could mean

[lethal moat]

Cloacina would like to have a word (roman sewers are neat)

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh

[fast forge]

sounds like cloaca tho

same root

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah...

[lethal moat]

We don’t talk about that bit

[acoustic osprey]

coming from 'cleanse' in latin

which makes sense!!

both are exits

[lethal moat]

ANYWAYS sewers and whatnot on gateway, really looking forward to that one perimiter entrance and would like to find flooded basements in certain areas

[fast forge]

In biology textbooks it is said that the body part was named after a word for "sewer"

[acoustic osprey]

means the same thing

the sewer was the part of roma that would cleanse/purify your 'rubbish'

[lethal moat]

Moat https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003091745984233563/1103137697066922034/IMG_6823.png?ex=669c6a8a&is=669b190a&hm=3b4219807704c56c605f31ff4c81e319fb1785dfe85404f570e6a809220fafc5&

That one looks like that last waterfall going south from northeast lake

[acoustic osprey]

(Venus also had an epithet with the same title - Venus of the sewer/Venus who cleans/purifies, lol)

[fast forge]

you mean the big waterfall separating the two lakes?

I've always loved that spot

[lethal moat]

And there’s some underwater entrance stuff on the river above where the waterfall is

[fast forge]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

is that near the dome?

[fast forge]

kinda

[acoustic osprey]

can't remember

[fast forge]

pretty straight north of it

[lethal moat]

That doesn’t look like a dome though, more like a bunker

[acoustic osprey]

closed GUTS entrance

[lethal moat]

This is the spot I’m talking about

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah

[lethal moat]

Potential bunker/GUTS entrance/resupply point

[acoustic osprey]

VisualTech has been putting finishing touches on the kit for our human environment structures. Our building pieces have been constructed with modularity as a primary design principle. Each element, such as walls, roofs, doors, floors, and more, have been carefully crafted as separate modules that can effortlessly fit together. This design approach provides an unparalleled level of flexibility for developers and modders to create any type of structure they desire without hassle. The buildings currently in-game were built from part of this kit, so you can expect more brutalist designs of concrete and steel. Screenshots outside of the kitbash level were forbidden, so the concepts of the environments that are being created are supplied instead.

oh man, i forgot he refers to modding here

( #isle-phase-three message )

[knotty locust]

i was, and still am, particularly excited for the modular system regarding building

[fast forge]

this one is fun

[knotty locust]

it would be nice if its similar to planet zoo's building system

[acoustic osprey]

forgot this existed lol

[lethal moat]

Make a map that is just a colosseum

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm
always nice to here Vis when he refers to "X" modular system

[knotty locust]

i would smash into the windows of this exterior object as a pteranodon

[acoustic osprey]

it's why I really want to make a V3 remake for Evrima once modding comes

heck
turn that V3 remake into a Hunting Lodge gamemode as well

basically TheHunter Primal

[lethal moat]

Observation platform

[acoustic osprey]

this also looks like one of those artworks from Fred/Tap that are done over a screenshot

[fast forge]

Remember that parking garage? Looks like it's been around for a while

[lethal moat]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

still want to know where this is and want it in!!

guessing Perm though

[lethal moat]

What’s the purpose of that scaffolding sort of structure on the right

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/d79e4df3dc2704d6fa6107b3c28313dc
connects to this

[fast forge]

foreman's office

[knotty locust]

stairs

[acoustic osprey]

so likely a walkable catwalk connected to the walls, mostly

basically akin to Theatre Catwalks
but more to the sides of the walls that directly above

[lethal moat]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

allowing space for things moving on the roads
looking at the other concept arts posted in that post

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1103137700095209532/IMG_6551.png?ex=669c6a8b&is=669b190b&hm=01803692c6341c584504d61c907866af91ff21d1c4f120413991e1fadd3dbb20&

you can basically see those catwalks here as well

[lethal moat]

Hear me out
Forklift Operator

I want a forklift

I need a forklift

[acoustic osprey]

if anyone from the community is made into a character
we should only be made into Forklift Operators

Rump the Senior Forklift Operator

[lethal moat]

The true hero of gateway

[acoustic osprey]

Cause of Death - Impalement

[lethal moat]

He died the way he lived

On a forklift

Fighting dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I bet there’s somebody out there willing to draw that for money

[acoustic osprey]

maybe!!

that'd be real funny lol

[lethal moat]

The name of the vehicle is Excalibur

[neon gorge]

tartasorus

[fast forge]

tartar sauce

[hexed forge]

We need more fences

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Terminus, hmm

Will do some research on him.

[hexed forge]

A clean version

Slower version

[patent ginkgo]

very nice

good work soldier

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Confirmed islands:
Gateway (strains and whatnot)
Hunting lodge
Suspected islands:
Gen 1 and/or gen 2 island
Dinosaur breeding island (where dibble came from)
Just theorizing:
Public facing island
Crab island
Maybe more dinosaur islands

[hexed forge]

Seems about right

[lethal moat]

Crab island 🦀

[hexed forge]

Why

[nimble fractal]

CRAB ISLAND

[lethal moat]

Because I think it would be funny to have to go there as a gen 1 and fight larger and larger crabs until you die

[elder notch]

where dibble came from?

[lethal moat]

The dibble video, they were injected onto the island from a different location, I’m choosing to believe it’s something along the lines of a dinosaur breeding area

[elder notch]

mmm... interesting, but its a breeding island or where the new dinos are created, cause the dibbles of the video had babys on gateway

[hexed forge]

Created

[elder notch]

what?

[hexed forge]

The island of where they were created, answering your question.

[elder notch]

oh, srry

I thought I said it wrong

[hexed forge]

Well since Don is in isle discussion, I think its time to start a loretalk here to summon him here

[elder notch]

[lethal moat]

I was going to summon one of you guys from lorecord to discussion because I have to leave for work lol

[hexed forge]

I refuse to speak in Isle-Discussion, thats my official contract. (There are some exceptions sometime)

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

So, what should I talk about

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 light sources

[hexed forge]

I would assume they have some sort of proper Nightvision

Not better than Dino NV, but certainly better than Gen2.

[sand basin]

minmi

[hexed forge]

But other than that,

I think they would use torches, and perhaps human flashlights that they scavenge from their kills

[sand basin]

and now bye

[hexed forge]

Minmi is a small ankylosaurid made to aid in AE's research, helps to fill in the gap between Anky and...we only have 2 ankylosaurids,

[elder notch]

Gen 1 is the eyeless ones?

[hexed forge]

Yesn't

[elder notch]

[hexed forge]

The Eyeless, were desricbed as gen 1.5.

[elder notch]

oh, so who are the gen 1?

[hexed forge]

These guys, Im not sure if both versions will be in the game tho.

[lethal moat]

I think so

[hexed forge]

Sort of like Pattern A/B for dinosaurs, I assume?

Anyways,

I hope we get to see Docks ingame soon... or atleast a teaser on the new map update..

Don, if you are there, any info on the new map change ?

[elder notch]

if are the ones who doesnt have eyes the vision should be like the first night vision

[hexed forge]

Yea-

We all remember how that went.

No.

[meager junco]

It supposedly caused seizures for people who are liable to them

[hexed forge]

I hope it adds more human buildings, hope..

[elder notch]

ye, you maybe right

[elder notch]

YES please

[pseudo fable]

Isn't there around 4 or so?

On the top down draft.

[hexed forge]

Currently on the map? Theres more than 4.

[pseudo fable]

No, no.

[meager junco]

Like new structures…?

[hexed forge]

In the next map update?

[pseudo fable]

I misunderstood what I read. 😅

[hexed forge]

oh

[meager junco]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-krennic-this-c-lose-gif-10935154

I guess we wont know about any map changes until a stream or it releases

[meager junco]

4 new buildings would’ve made me so happy, especially in the western area of the map

[hexed forge]

H4..

[pseudo fable]

||I'm currently testing on Gateway. I'll see how many are there but I am not currently up to date.||

[meager junco]

DONT SAY IT

[hexed forge]

Check for Docks

[meager junco]

[elder notch]

and this one

[hexed forge]

Habitation facility....

Unfortunately I dont think its finished yet.

[elder notch]

[hexed forge]

All I need is new fences, that would make me hyped for its release.

[elder notch]

new fences, like what? more fences or different styles?

[hexed forge]

More fences.

[elder notch]

ye, I would like it too

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

Cover the entire island with them

[elder notch]

Im curious of this inside the domes

for me its like some elevators or like adouble door to get into the domes

[meager junco]

Perimeter had a similar setup, there’s actually a concept of that exact area

[hexed forge]

yep

Iirc, Don in a stream pointed out NW ridge, West access, and the area between NE/E as a location that will get work soon

Wonder what those changes are, if they are even in.

[meager junco]

I just realized that stream was like 3 months ago or more

[hexed forge]

It was... It was in Jan I think

[elder notch]

I think he said that are a redisign of the beach or some new human buildings, idk

[hexed forge]

It feels like it has been over a year for me haha

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-i-hope-so-please-please-gif-19730905

[hexed forge]

H4

[meager junco]

Not that far back was it??? I felt maybe late February at the most

[hexed forge]

We had like 3-4 streams in jan and feb. Hard to keep track-

And then it was ruined.

https://tenor.com/view/soldier-ww2-traumatized-meme-eyes-gif-12257475272172704406

[pseudo fable]

||I am not up to date on the docks. 7 buildings from what I see here. I am not including anything that's expanded beyond the scope of the build I'm on.||

[meager junco]

I’ll have to recount the number of bases we got

[hexed forge]

Alright, Ima now go on the evrima branch and count the current building and see if there is a difference.

[meager junco]

I think 7 is right tho

[hexed forge]

Give me like 10 minutes to update 🗿

[meager junco]

Huh there’s an update?

[hexed forge]

Resupply points? Or just like- Any building structure.

[hexed forge]

Nonono, switching from HT branch to Evrima branch.

[elder notch]

Human buildings include the domes and the perimeter?

[meager junco]

Ohhhh

[hexed forge]

Wish I had admin abilities on HT tho

[meager junco]

Ngl, unnoficials on HT would be cool but hella unreliable for trying to learn stuff about content as each server differs

[hexed forge]

Don disappeared into the land of hell(Isle-Discussion)

We have to now suffer without an answer

(Like always)

[meager junco]

He seems to have given us the lore juice for the day

[hexed forge]

We just have to consume it, gotta be thankful.

[meager junco]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

OH MY GOD WE SHOULDVE ASKED HIM ABOUT THE CAMERA

WHAT ARE WE THINKING

https://tenor.com/view/banging-head-bang-gif-12070477

[elder notch]

what camera?

[hexed forge]

We need a list of priority questions ngl

[hexed forge]

The TrailCamera from the Allo teaser

[elder notch]

what you wanted to ask him?

[elder notch]

ye, we have to...

[hexed forge]

Was it removed because the camera was retrieved in-lore? And will we ever see it again on gateway? Moved to a different location, perhaps Archive?(7) (IF, its a location)

[elder notch]

oh

[hexed forge]

Now we wait.

[elder notch]

well...

How was your day?

[meager junco]

We have one in lorecord remember, we just forget to update it lately

Plus we usually just ask questions as he appears

[hexed forge]

Nonono, dont start a conversation that makes the questions disappear-

[hexed forge]

Do we?

[elder notch]

ye, you are right.

[meager junco]

Or is that one of the channels you got deleted/merged.

[hexed forge]

Deleted

[meager junco]

When you last had server ideas

See you ruined it

IT HAD PURPOSE

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/it-needs-to-be-removed-take-it-away-serious-demanding-crypt-tv-gif-14208347

[hexed forge]

It was broken into two channels. Small questions and big questions, I seen that as a waste of space 🗿

It shouldve just been Questions to ask Dondi

[meager junco]

We coulda just made it into one like you said

[hexed forge]

Dont yell at me then!

[meager junco]

And I think small questions was more ingame mechanic questions iirc, not really lore ones

[hexed forge]

Waste of space in a lore server, screw the game, I need lore.

(Dont take the "Screw the game" comment seriously, thanks)

[meager junco]

You better take that back I wanna play as Shirley

[hexed forge]

Who cares about Shirley if a spino just breaks the neck of one

Oh sh, the branch downloaded, time to count bases.

[meager junco]

Yeh that’s right , count bases, while I plot your death…

[elder notch]

There are 7 human buildings counting the domes and the perimeter

[hexed forge]

Dont count the domes

[elder notch]

4 then, i think

3 human bases and the one who is next to the perimeter

[hexed forge]

K15
I12
H6
C14
We only have 4 resupply points yeah..

And then We got the East Dome building set
Perm enterance....

6?

[meager junco]

Volcano entrance?

[hexed forge]

Oh, then thats 7.. But I dont like to count that as a human base..

[meager junco]

I mean it’s more than just a regular GUTS entrance

[hexed forge]

It really depends on what he meant by buildings.

The resupply points?

Or literally just every human structure.

[meager junco]

Omg not this again

It’s the “it’s obvious” all over again

[elder notch]

there is this one under the map

[hexed forge]

OH yeah that, but, dont count that.

[elder notch]

ye, ye, i was counting the human bases

[meager junco]

I really wonder if that base will stay the same considering it’s basically a mix of every building on the map atm

[hexed forge]

I asked him a question in #isle-discussion Praying for an answer.

Resupply points are the incorrect term for the buildings. @lethal moat @acoustic osprey

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-27188097

[elder notch]

oh, are 5 human bases, the building set of East Dome and the one in the perimeter

[lethal moat]

I imagine resupply points would be connected to GUTS/Monorail, I’d ask if Ranger station is a better term

[hexed forge]

This changes a few things..

So,

[elder notch]

You have a picture of K15 then?

[hexed forge]

So the bases are not called resupply points, which we thought for awhile.

And their names arent based on the designation area.

K15 is literally just the area.

[meager junco]

Tbf, makes sense, as literally every map on legacy has regular names for bases, not things like k15

It’s why I still use derelict base as a name at times

[hexed forge]

I dont like using unofficial names, they are- eh.....

Ridgewood pond...

Do you mean the pond north of NE sanc?

[elder notch]

haha i thought that were assets

[meager junco]

They’re only unnoficial till don comes and says “yeh that’s what it’s called” or “yeh it’s named this”

[hexed forge]

I shall just call each base from now on based on their designated area.

Base in K15.

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it really changes anything

[hexed forge]

Changes a few things, not a lot. Yes.

[meager junco]

I generally don’t really mind as we honestly know maybe 10% of what’s truly going on behind the scenes, for all we know k15 could be called something like jungle base(I doubt it)

[hexed forge]

It just makes it that we now no longer know the true names of the bases

[lethal moat]

Does it need a name?

[hexed forge]

Would be preferred yes

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it needs a name, just a designation, in which it’s grid location works just fine, if not better than, a proper name

[hexed forge]

There might be something that happens in for example K15, but nowhere near the base. So you would say "It happened in K15"

So, are you referring to the base or the area...Might cause confusion.

I dont think its better to not have a proper name for the bases.

[meager junco]

You can always just say “base in k15”

It’s more common than you think

[hexed forge]

Yes correct, but if it was an actual official report in AE.

You would likely say in insert base name then it happened in H4.

But- Augustus report said H4 and it happened around the base- But that might be before the bases had actual names(Outside of lore).

[fast forge]

context too - if we are talking about human bases and we mention K15, the context tells you that we mean the base at K15, even without using so many words

[hexed forge]

But even if the augustus video doesnt do that, its still more proper to have a different name for the base

[fast forge]

I suppose, but we don't even know if Don has named them or what the convention is

[meager junco]

I mean they don’t exactly need a name, as they know their grid and what square is which, so to them, base in k15 only means one thing since there’s only one base there

[hexed forge]

"A herrera was seen climbing in K15"

Would you think base or the area?

[lethal moat]

Designations are just easier from a logistical and legal standpoint, no way of confusing it with anything else

[hexed forge]

With no context that is

Literally just a normal report on a specific specimen

It causes confusion

[lethal moat]

Just pull up the chip tracking data of all herreras in the k15 area at the time and find iut

[hexed forge]

Thats just extra steps to something that could easily be broken up into something way easier to indicate the herreras location.

[elder notch]

On the dibble one the location is wrong too its says F5 and F5 its on the ocean, the right one is H14, H15

[hexed forge]

"A herrera was seen climbing in Insert base name"

"A herrera was seen climbing in K15"

[fast forge]

you could also give coords like (260,047.725, -91,094.07, 35,665.166)

[meager junco]

I think we’re just thinking too hard on something that has so little importance lol

[fast forge]

K15 is just a general area

[hexed forge]

True, but that would be too specific even for AE probably lol

[fast forge]

why?

[hexed forge]

Especially since the herrera is a moving target..

[fast forge]

it's literally in the UI we are given on data about the animals, sounds like they are using it

[fast forge]

So if I gave you those coords, you would go to the exact position but not maybe just look around that area?

[hexed forge]

Ingame stuff made for gameplay doesnt equal the actual thing.

Especially since its outdated and we are getting a UI rework..

[elder notch]

on the videos it will be so long, so they put the area, K15 for example

[meager junco]

Plus I’m sure everyone at AE needs a certain amount of knowledge of the island(s) , meaning k15 would be a very common thing they’d say like any other base location

[hexed forge]

Why would they call the base K15 if there is a base name present for it? Seems like they would def call it by the actual name.

[fast forge]

You are saying the system of designating things by alphanumerical designation is not specific enough.
I give you a more specific method of location mapping that is IN GAME
But somehow it's not canon even when other things in game are

[hexed forge]

What other things?

Whats on the character thing canon?

Also why would they use made up coordinates-

Using coordinates that exist IRL is..well..makes much more sense lmao

The ingame coordinate system is CLEARLY made for gameplay purposes and not lore lmao

[meager junco]

Not the base itself but the area, the base might have an actual name but it’s something we don’t know of yet canonically

[hexed forge]

Yes correct, mhm.

Im trying to prove that the bases likely have a name, that we dont know yet. And its not better for it to not have a name.

[fast forge]

give me one reason why it's CLEARLY made for gameplay only
(besides a potential UI update that may not change this feature anyway)

[elder notch]

I think that say an area is easier for the workers, like Shadow says

[meager junco]

It’s possible some bases are very small and just don’t have a name, more something like “resupply at I12”

[hexed forge]

Because its the same coordinate system used for a lot of different games that was just yeeted from UE

And everysingle map in the isle used the same one

[fast forge]

and that can't be canon retroactively?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

We shall never know

[hexed forge]

No. They would use an actual coordinate system. That exists IRL.

[fast forge]

I dunno - base names are fine, if we get them
I don't really need to know them right now

[meager junco]

Jesus that’s the second time today I lose a Herrera cause I’m in lore chat and not focusing on the game

[hexed forge]

Hahhaa, get back to climbing

[fast forge]

You mean like altitude, latitude and longitude?

What is your argument exactly? They wouldn't use Long/Lat?

[hexed forge]

They wouldnt use the coordinates that is ingame..

They would use Long/Lat And altitude.

[elder notch]

you are doing it right haha

[meager junco]

Canni herreras are scary man

[fast forge]

That is Latitude and Longitude, even if the values don't match the real world

it literally says it

[hexed forge]

I know that, Im saying that they wont use the exact coordinate values that is stated on the screen...?

[fast forge]

so?

[hexed forge]

Wdym so

[fast forge]

My initial point was about the system, not the specific values used in game

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

You started comparing it to ingame stuff... why couldnt you just say that they could use a coordinate system?

[fast forge]

hence my use of the qualifier "like" in reference to coordinates

[fast forge]

dude what is this semantics argument

[hexed forge]

What

You started comparing it to the ingame coordinates. Saying that they would use it JUST BECAUSE it exists ingame.

You could have just said they use coordinate systems, thats it. And not start comparing it to ingame coordinates.

I agree with them using coordinates.

[fast forge]

once again, what is your point? that the game should have individual names for bases? Sure!

[hexed forge]

It would be more proper for them to have an actual name for the bases than them just using designation areas as the name for the bases. Its more proper.

I gave my points on why it would be more proper

[fast forge]

Only you seem to care about this, I'm sorry

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

I was talking to Rumple at first who said that it would be more proper to not have base names and follow the designation area as the names, I wasnt even arguing with you.

I stated my points for that.

[fast forge]

I'm sorry, I wasn't trying to be rude...

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

Will this work as a substitute for the bullet points....Nothing I do creates a proper bullet point

[lethal moat]

I think it works

As for the K15 thingo, i’m with tiny, they have the resources to be as specific as they need to be to track the animal individually, and if you’re able to access chip tracking from the PDA, I don’t think they’ll have any problem with disclosing where hazards are

[hexed forge]

I still believe that the bases likely have names for technical reasons.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

Maybe by what’s at the base, like a mechanics shop or the really nice bathrooms, but I rather doubt that they’ve been given official names rather than designating them by their area

[hexed forge]

But then why did Dondi correct me on the naming of K15? Almost like its not the name of the base.

[lethal moat]

You were talking about buildings individually as k15 c13 etc etc, that could just be the base within the area of k15 is also labeled k15

[hexed forge]

If the name of the base is K15, then I dont think he would have corrected me.

[hexed forge]

Don referred to the bases as "Buildings" too, I was talking with his context.

Another moment of where "We shall never know unless directly clarified?"

[lethal moat]

We can continue calling it k15, because as of now, it is the only base or think of major significance in k15, so if you say k15, everyone knows what you’re talking about

[hexed forge]

Yeah you can call it K15

[meager junco]

I honestly doubt anything more than a watchtower will go in the same grid squares of bases

[hexed forge]

People can still call it K15, just there is no confirmation of that being its name.

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it’s a big deal, we can call bases by their designation on the map, unless there’s two bases in one section, then we can say north M14 or whatever

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it’s important yet, maybe it’ll apply to F5, but even then, we don’t know enough

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Atleast we now know that "Resupply points" isnt the correct name of the bases

Atleast thats something

[meager junco]

I mean the bases are unfinished as well, there might be cages in some of them in the future that allude they aren’t just a place to get supplies, but had more uses back when AE had control over the island, then again, they could just be places where they go to sleep when they’re working in the fields

[hexed forge]

Wrong chat 🤔

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

I see

[patent ginkgo]

said the blind man

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[patent ginkgo]

fence lore

[hexed forge]

Where

[patent ginkgo]

under there

[hexed forge]

oh just noticed the DNA part has the wrong color

https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-employee-frustrated-head-bump-on-keyboard-gif-11953744

[hexed forge]

What happened to lego Owen Grady..

We never got Lego Filipe..

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gone-reduced-to-atoms-end-game-infinity-war-gif-15573921

[hexed forge]

After about 1 hour... This is the best I can do to replicate it.

[fast forge]

I've noticed a lot of doorways and tunnels have floating stones, now this river source near the east dome has them too

[patent ginkgo]

yeah since the qol update, which brought in those stones as a new thing on the ground

just a bug they havent fixed yet

i think its due to like an overhang or smth being there

might be the "inside" zone used for weather sounds being muffled if thats there

[hexed forge]

QoL change messed it up sadly

[lethal moat]

Why the difference in their teeth? Do they have different diet?

Also, different neck structure

[blissful sun]

Are these two different species or redesigns

[lethal moat]

Same species that’s the redesign of tribals

[patent ginkgo]

Aren’t there also gonna be kinda like different builds for em as well

[lethal moat]

I hope so

[blissful sun]

Ok so the new tribals don't have eyes like the eyeless

[lethal moat]

Some of them

[lethal moat]

The quote goes something along the lines of “some gen 1 are really good at climbing”

[patent ginkgo]

Man why it all gotta be so cryptic

[lethal moat]

It’s more fun when it drives people insane

Like EIPs!

[blissful sun]

Ok some of them being eyeless naturally either implies a really good sense of smell/hearing or echo location

[lethal moat]

It might also just be an aesthetic headswap sort of thing

[blissful sun]

"It could imply that it relies on other sense to move and detect"
"It could also just nothing and it looks cool"

[patent ginkgo]

This took SO LONG to find

[hexed forge]

Correct me if Im wrong, which I probably am.

But the V1 gen1 has teeth that is more suitable for gripping and choking things with its mouth...Sort of like cats?

So perhaps V1 is more suitable for hunting things. While V2 has an extremly good sense of smell, not needing sight.

I am probably wrong.

[blissful sun]

You are correct with the teeth

[lethal moat]

V2’s teeth are more omnivorous and the v1 are more carnivorous, yes

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

Blame Dondi

[hexed forge]

No, we shall banish you to tartarus now for spreading misinformation.

[acoustic osprey]

He made the term up!!!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-northman-northman-reasonsimbroke-willem-dafoe-focus-features-gif-24200263

Update the lore document?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/marc-antony-rome-hbo-rome-antony-rome-hbo-rome-marc-antony-gif-25297315

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

I’ll remove AEQUOR when I get home

[hexed forge]

I suggested to remove resupply points from the doc

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/165d2969caab4d5f02f0f53db3be51b4

this is cool
sounds like Don has found a way to make it work then

with GUTS' non-Euclidean terrain

[hexed forge]

Would be funny to see players get lost

"How the hell am I at swamp, I was literally in NE 30 seconds ago"

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Also, he says that he cant teleport players from one to another. Wonder if he tried that/was that planned?

[acoustic osprey]

if you don't make it near instant teleportation
basically just half the time

it'll definitely get a lot more rubbing with Gen2s against Dinos
Gen2s needing to be more alert because Dinos will more likely use these more human aspects

[acoustic osprey]

what do you mean

[hexed forge]

Was he experimenting with literally teleporting the player

From X to Y in 1 second

[acoustic osprey]

^

[hexed forge]

yes

Sort of like a portal

[acoustic osprey]

i believe he means "I can't"
not as a physical "I can't do this"
but as a figurative, wouldn't be a thing he would do

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

that's the whole point of the system!!

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

[hexed forge]

I-I know, I only thought he was trying to just shorten the system, not a literal teleportation ability from X to Y

But seems like that wasnt intended either way so its fine

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

My main worry is that it’ll affect the player in ways that makes things like combat in the tunnels weird

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
I believe he means this

[hexed forge]

Probably

[acoustic osprey]

as a whole, it wouldn't really
but if you're chasing a person, in combat, it'll make the chase feel faster

because you'll be in "X" a lot faster

i just hope they can find a way not to make GUTS the place to travel

that's probably the only down side to non-euclidean geometry

that you won't even see people on Gateway anymore
unless you're in GUTS

[hexed forge]

Make it so there is a gate for some of the enterances, able to destroy the gate only if you are big.

[lethal moat]

I’d be fine with it tbh, the only deterring factor being other players know that it’s the same thing and will likely camp entrances

Because if it’s that popular, it will definitely be guarded, so you have the choice of if it’s worth it or not

[acoustic osprey]

this is probably going to be a very bad aspect that may come out of such though

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it’s bad

[acoustic osprey]

you doubt the player
if it's more effective - it will be used

[lethal moat]

Just a risk you run

[acoustic osprey]

as a bottleneck and chokepoint
and also as a traversal aspect

removing players off the face of Gateway to move around with basically a faster travel tunnel

i think it has the potential to be real bad

if you can make a proper physical downside for it
not having to rely on players
it may help

it just depends
Are GUTS just true straightforward "A to Z"
or more spiderweb like

[lethal moat]

Yeah, the internal structure does matter quite a bit

I also think underground warehouses of stored supplies for gen 2 would be neat

[hexed forge]

It would help if its spiderweb like, but players will probably memorize the routes either way. The problem will still stay.

Maybe some routes are closed and only available for Gen2 and small dinos only.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gif-18933675

[hexed forge]

Yes! Exactly!

Vent routes for small dinos

[acoustic osprey]

if you make it convoluted enough
mixing with humans a lot

you'd push away the more casual user, on paper

[lethal moat]

I want there to be layers

[acoustic osprey]

labyrinth

[lethal moat]

Like yes, you can take the top layer and connect to these three entrances
Or
Welcome to the underdark and you can exit anywhere if you know exactly where you’re going

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-idk-i-dont-know-who-knows-gif-17348455

[acoustic osprey]

I'd prefer if a lot more entrances to GUTS go into buildings or deeper layers

[patent ginkgo]

This is a Kentro reference

[acoustic osprey]

rather than priority for exit

[acoustic osprey]

being that GUTS isn't a true tunnel system, like through a mountain

but far more for transport

[patent ginkgo]

Thank you

[lethal moat]

I want to get lost the first 10 times I go into GUTS
Or need a PDA to know where I’m going

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

LLLRFL

[hexed forge]

So there has to be direct routes from point A to be B

Cant avoid that

[acoustic osprey]

that still depends

what is A to B

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

One side of the island to another

[acoustic osprey]

is there a GUTS highway?

[lethal moat]

Direct doesn’t necessarily mean straight line without stops on the way

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
still note though

[hexed forge]

What do you mean?

[acoustic osprey]

we know GUTS isn't your typically tunnel system

[hexed forge]

A transport system

Transportation of supplies and other things, probably using big rigs.

[acoustic osprey]

it isn't focused on overworld transport through something like a block
like how a tunnel would be made to go through a mountain

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS is the underground system

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Did I say that it isnt

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

I note that

[acoustic osprey]

that'd be describing it as linear

one side of the island to another

[hexed forge]

Well, yes.

From perhaps a dock in West access to around K15.

[acoustic osprey]

that's still assuming it's a linear process

how american or european is it by design?

is it highways? Or is it more convoluted and messy

[hexed forge]

What date system do they use

Month/Day/Year
Or
Day/Month/Year

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

Brb, Im going to draw how I think its going to be. As an example.

[acoustic osprey]

ok

[lethal moat]

What if you need keycards to access different layers of GUTS?

[hexed forge]

This is the most messy thing I ever drawn, so yes, I guess it counts as messy.

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-hate-it.-i-just-don't-like-it.-at-all.and-it's-terrible.-the-office-hindi-kulfy-gif-10017412077614260701

[hexed forge]

Probably

I would imagine Tartarus being the deepest level

[acoustic osprey]

now imagine going from I12 to "B"

[hexed forge]

boom

[acoustic osprey]

ok I want to go to K15 to A then

[hexed forge]

From K15 to A? Ight

[acoustic osprey]

oh and B to the volcano

maybe A to Volcano as well, not the bunker of Volcano

maybe even Perm to D14

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-sweat-heat-hot-wipe-sweat-gif-17716050

[acoustic osprey]

heck also D10 as well

Maybe even D10 to A as well

heck
add F5 there as well
include H4 and H6

[hexed forge]

uh

[acoustic osprey]

I want H4 and H6 to go to D10 and D14 as well!!

Perm to H4 and H6 as well

B to K15 would be nice too!

you can see how convoluted it can get now

[hexed forge]

yes.

[hexed forge]

Good, make people get lost.

[acoustic osprey]

heck
why don't we Harry Potter it up as well
let's make them move by themselves as well!

[hexed forge]

Woah

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-okay-great-meme-just-perfect-gif-16605517

[hexed forge]

Sad that we didnt ask about the camera when Don was here

[acoustic osprey]

maybe next time

albeit, I hope he's active when I'm awake
I might be able to remember

food for thought
why is basically everything in lore contain crossed out words

especially in stuff like AUGUSTUS and the Dibble Video

[lethal moat]

Security and safety of assets and employees

Most of what we see has likely been in a place where people of various clearances can see it, so we’re making sure they only see what they’re allowed to see

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

https://youtu.be/HuJBX_Ul6Jc
something interesting to think about

Replicator? AE? Gen1s?
more food for thought

i think something like the Rain World aspect reminds me of The Replicator

[median shuttle]

I would love if curious archive were to make a video on the isle sometime

or like feature the isle in one of his videos

[acoustic osprey]

what happens when an Island is filled with dinosaurs...

[tender shard]

Is the Gateway only island in current lore,or some old maps are canonical to?

[acoustic osprey]

there is one of two confirmed islands at the moment

[tender shard]

The other valid is Spiro,yes?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[median shuttle]

I'm not sure but I feel like spiro is no longer part of the lore

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really know with Spiro
Spiro as it was was canned

but may it return? Potentially?

however
no

the second island is actually something recently caught out of the blue

no name for it, yet.

But it's a Hunting Lodge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1252789213510897768/image_3...png?ex=669dae60&is=669c5ce0&hm=0f961bea0358acc65deee4fa0a175fe73e2530ef721381553936969483f5eccf&

^ what Don sent us

[tender shard]

What are hunters?The 3rd human faction?

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really know, honestly

one guess is that this is "pre-incident" ||bad term||
so this is prior to any dismemberment of AE from their islands

[muted hill]

The OG game concept did have poachers and rangers as the human classes could be a nod to that or just that AE did have some public commercial side

[acoustic osprey]

practically just being just rich people
a nice source of income for AE

[acoustic osprey]

aye
three cool classes

(Gov A. Gov B. Soldiers of Fortune.)

[muted hill]

Cecil the allosaurus shot by dentist on AE island

[acoustic osprey]

lol

#isle-lore-theories message
have to note though.
It may just likely be just textural lore than physical aspect

which would be a bummer
Albeit, if we get a lot of good info on it (in-lore) I might just have to turn my V3-styled TheHunter Primal mod idea into just a lore accurate lore mod expansion
lol

[muted hill]

could be sounds like a cool map for a new game mode like Hunter style or DMZ

[acoustic osprey]

mmm
have it on something like a Temperate map as well

i find that's more scarier with something like a hunting game

hopefully boost up that Legacy vibe of "grey temperate"

rather than basically tropical coloured without the flora

[muted hill]

speaking of do we know if all the AE islands are tropical, before evrima release or in the first devblog it was mentioned that 5(?) existed in cannon im assuming thats changed

as spero was cannonically island 2 or something

[acoustic osprey]

we know that AE has international locations, at least for research (whatever such implies)

[muted hill]

interesting

[acoustic osprey]

old old lore sadly, in terms of recode

always wondered on that "5 islands" aspect

[muted hill]

I could see that being labs around the world

ah shame

[acoustic osprey]

Spero, potentially AE-001 coming back, Thenyaw, others

[acoustic osprey]

but the essence of such may still exist, in some degree

[muted hill]

I assumed the 5 islands were different islands of research which would be interesting when it came to finding out why all of them became abandoned

some more wild and free roam with others having a heavy human presents and lots of buildings and fences

[acoustic osprey]

this may very likely being the case still though

[muted hill]

true

[acoustic osprey]

it seems so especially with the Hunting Lodge
a lot more free and open

[muted hill]

and with such a range of experiments up to and including 50+ dinosaurs I could see them needing and using a handful of different locations and envronments

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[tender shard]

Am I the only one who thinks that the mutations in the game are too different from what we saw before? It would be more logical to divide the leveling branches into neurotics, tysoplastics and hypers, and then all this would be finalized with the addition of visual changes. But now we just have an chaotic list of available abilities

[muted hill]

I mean you could in theory combine perks into strain builds so to speak

so a raptor using a stealth mutation build could in theory be a tissoplastic themed build

[acoustic osprey]

mutations aren't supposed to be a replacement for strains

albeit, it's a neat idea bunching them up like that

[muted hill]

also lab made dinosaurs could have a rnage of mutations as they aren't... natural so to speak

[acoustic osprey]

one of the older descriptions on Trello teased something similar though
but that is long gone now

[acoustic osprey]

aye

and we're still yet to see the proper completed Mutation UI and system

[muted hill]

tbf I could see certain builds being apart of the strain process

[acoustic osprey]

there are still two big mutation slots (minus the Elder Slot) we have no idea on yet

[acoustic osprey]

would be neat for the idea of "growing into" your strain

[muted hill]

thats what I assumed

use perks that make sense when going for your chosen strain

[acoustic osprey]

but now can you imagine growing into a strain
that's some horror I want to see

[muted hill]

imagine the morphs over time

be interesting to if when become a strain if its a slow process or if the creature writhes about in pain as its body swiftly mutates on the spot

given what I know about this game over all the years im guessing its quick but painful for the animal, the hyper giga gets its jaw muscles crushed when its mouth opens iirc

[acoustic osprey]

mm

[hexed forge]

That is what I hope the strain process is like

[lethal moat]

I’m still of the opinion that the replicator isn’t sentient and that it’s just a program continuing to do it’s job

[lethal moat]

“All of the dinosaurs shoukd be dead by now.”
“I forgot to turn off the dinosaur machine.”
“God damn it Gary.”

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[valid geyser]

“Well IM not going back and fixing it.”
“Gary.”

[hexed forge]

"Screw it, why dont we just make an army of genetically made humans and send them to the island?"

[valid geyser]

“…Yeah I think that could work.”

[hexed forge]

"Crap, the first generation failed they killed so many of our employees...

Screw it lets continue our experiments!!!"

[valid geyser]

This is exactly how it went

[lethal moat]

We can blame Gary

[valid geyser]

Always blame Gary

[patent ginkgo]

Thank Gary

[hexed forge]

Thanks Gary

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gary-spongebob-squarepants-the-spongebob-movie-sponge-on-the-run-crying-gif-20224437

[hexed forge]

All Isle Lore solved, the end.

[hexed forge]

Ngl, I just recently started properly using Obsidian and its actually way more helpful than I thought it would be. The features on there are nice.

[lethal moat]

It’s very handy

[hexed forge]

yep

[hexed forge]

I have made a "Lore Notes" Category and will now use it when talking here

[lethal moat]

Wonder what the lodging on gateway will look like

As well as the recreation area

[hexed forge]

Lodging?

[lethal moat]

Housing, rest area where they sleep

[hexed forge]

Ohh

Im going to guess that the specific facility that was made for that would probably be underground, accessed by GUTS

[lethal moat]

I feel like multiple smaller ones around the major facilities could work just as well, but a small resort in the middle of gateway would be funny

[acoustic osprey]

Sentient or not
The ideas still stand as food for thought, and fitting still
What will it take for a machine to finish its task

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-25407007

[lethal moat]

Perfect organism (populate the island with nothing but matriarchs)

Actually hold up

What happens when a matriarch eats another matriarch

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, actually.

Multiple smaller ones around major facilities would actually be more efficient, "Smaller" being literally a room with a bed and some other needs. Likely shared with other employees.

Thats probably only for low level employees

Higher level employees, for example important scientists. Would probably get a whole seperate facility.

So...

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

(Im agreeing with you)

[lethal moat]

If GUTS is really thorough and the lodging is at Perimiter, it might just be a 10 minute drive to wherever you’re stationed

[hexed forge]

Morning traffic

[hexed forge]

Using a monorail?

Well, I guess it depends on where you are stationed

If you are traveling to a ranger station, you would probably use like a UTV, or a dirtbike, etc.
Employees that are stationed underground would probably walk/use monorail. Mixed

[acoustic osprey]

walk, monorail or drive

there are several options above GUTS and within

[hexed forge]

Yep, and it all depends on where they are stationed

[acoustic osprey]

for the most part
You would still likely just be able to walk or drive

[hexed forge]

Yea

But I believe only a few would actually use vehicles to travel. (When comparing it to the entirity of AE's Employee count)

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=669eb681&is=669d6501&hm=9908dc7639f9d6e7b25372ecf7f261ddc645a734f63272bc1f5afd16083e58ec&
could use this as a reference

but this may as well be for a singular site/facility

[hexed forge]

Interesting name for the file

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

When reading it, it sounds like its a singular megafacility

OLYMPUS

[acoustic osprey]

maybe maybe not

[hexed forge]

The emoji for my name didnt work

[lethal moat]

Might need nitro for that one

[hexed forge]

Probably, anyways.

This is what I have for Employee housing in AE, what it could look like, a theory.

[lethal moat]

I can see there either being one central housing location or a bunch of smaller ones, maybe even temporary resting locations

[hexed forge]

Why not both?

[lethal moat]

Both works

[hexed forge]

I believe that the central housing location would only be for higher level employees

While lower level employees would be housed in rooms that are shared by employees. So..2-4 employees in each room.

[lethal moat]

Purple keycards get king sized beds

[hexed forge]

A special view of Tartarus at the back of the room

[lethal moat]

Their room is actually a viewing platform

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/salieri-mozart-gif-19031757

[lethal moat]

Executive suite https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1085583414704472185/1103703807038345216/IMG_6798.png?ex=669e79c5&is=669d2845&hm=b8dc091f0b9e5de211f2f327cad4078439708f092e15194c3111bb6dd653c7ea&

[acoustic osprey]

get to see the cool guys in the big pit

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-vintage-gif-10939968

[acoustic osprey]

he'll be ok!! (the dinosaur)

[lethal moat]

The watch will give him indigestion

[acoustic osprey]

oh damn

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K12d_mETqkA

I remember when I actually thought that was a rex teaser from the thumbnail

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[young viper]

when i got to see this "teaser" i was like

and then i got like

[lethal moat]

What you talk about??? T recks?

[acoustic osprey]

just wanted to relay some thought

it's like a very big "yeah, not even close"
but it's something different and unique for the "what even is/where even is F5"

[lethal moat]

Gib f5

[acoustic osprey]

yeah sure thing Rump, you already know what it is!!

(my quote from isle discussion)

i did wonder if C2 could be a hint towards F5
which would also explain H4

but nah.

[lethal moat]

Not this one

[acoustic osprey]

it's more likely than C2 is just "Camera 2"

[acoustic osprey]

yeah sure

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

laugh at this user

[lethal moat]

The old times

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/f3ff2b77763372b3adcac5be7256123a
I was mostly accurate

just wrong angle

like
if you switch it from North Facing to South Facing
I was pretty close from what we got to learn

that cycad sanctuary no longer exists as well

[lethal moat]

Ocean base one day would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

soon ™️

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

A15

[lethal moat]

Lets talk about bunkers and warehouses connected to GUTS

[meager junco]

Definitely plausible with some being embedded in rocks lol

[hexed forge]

Yes.

They likely exist

I dont know what else to say

[lethal moat]

I want to have to go into the super dangerous dark area where the dinos travel to get places faster in order to get a ton of nice loot

[hexed forge]

GUTS....

[lethal moat]

I hope GUTS ends up absolutely infested with small carnivores

[hexed forge]

Vent systems for small dinos

[lethal moat]

Vents would be nice, but maybe not even necessary, just hidey places like piles of crates where they can feel safe

[hexed forge]

I just hope it wont become a hotspot for all dinos, it shouldnt be.

[lethal moat]

Nocturnal dinos maybe

Depends on how well lit it is

[fast forge]

Gen 1 GUTS niche

You enter a giant echoing parking garage, thinking you are alone

What you don't see is the ramshackle Gen 1 huts suspended way up in the rafters in the darkness

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Depends

I am of the belief gen 1 isn’t on gateway, because of what Dondi said in stream about no one island having everything, so I think it’s a matter of wether or not other islands have GUTS

[hexed forge]

I mean, GUTS is just a system.(Literally just a name for a underground transportation system) Its not specifically Gateway's system. So it can be on other islands.

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

yeah but do we know if he meant in-game, in-canon, or both?

I could easily see it being in-canon that the two are seperate, but in-game you might see them both

[lethal moat]

He did elaborate, let me get the quote

Don:
"There is no island that has Gen 1s, Gen 2s, dinosaurs and standard functional human beings on it inside of the story. It does not exist. It has not happened. If it does happen, I've certainly have no written it yet
So you may get a game that has all of that, there is no melting pot of AE's ideas where all of them get shoved into the same thing
So while the gameplay is being supported, it's not just 'oh hey here's an island, it has all of these things on it' it doesn't work like that.

No. The game is not 'non-canonical', it's more so you're gonna get a lens to see various chunks of islands and stories that get told"

[fast forge]

So we get a list of 4 things:

• Gen 1
• Gen 2
• Dinos
• Standard humans

Is there more context about Gen 1 and Gen 2 specifically?

Because this could mean an island has any combination of 3 of these

[lethal moat]

Not to my knowledge

However

It was never clarified if the person in the dibble video is human or gen 2

[fast forge]

this could easily be explained by saying "AE replaced their workforce with Gen 2 before they made dinosaurs or Gen 1"

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

Aka
Each island is their own episode on friends

They're not "one after each other"

They're episodical
Not linear, practically non-linear

[lethal moat]

They are their own things with overarching connections

[acoustic osprey]

However episodical refers to them being poorly linked
Which would be wrong

There is still lore

Just that each island is it's own thing, more or less

Gameplay wise? I hope so as well

More than just "X faction/playable" cannot be played

However, knowing that The Hunting Lodge might not be an actual playable thing
Is a bit saddening

Will, if they don't, do what I always do and have to make it. Lol

[hexed forge]

He said "Why can it not be both"

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-the-best-answer-we've-had-simon-cowell-britain's-got-talent-great-answer-good-answer-gif-3157973956822169667