isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

It wont. /j

There are also other portions at east that need connection.

The gate under the map leading to the coast for example. Likely will connect to the dome.

And also the fence leading from volcano bunker needs connection into the south direction.

And also the cliff at NE. In the jungle.

It needs polishing to actually accomplish the "Natural barrier" role that the fences couldnt..

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Why did everyone stop talking when there is a fence talk.

[chrome acorn]

Maybe it was offensive

[acoustic osprey]

fences are hard
lot's of speculation and waiting

[chrome acorn]

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1251053181098786836/The_Isle_Lore.gif

[hexed forge]

When all of that is connected.

We could see 2 regions.

Sectors? doubt.

But maybe.

Northeast region and East region

I dont use words like "Grasslands" or "Jungle", because the region isnt only 1 biome.

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-talking-gif-24637905

[chrome acorn]

That’s chaos

[hexed forge]

Oh! And also.

[valid geyser]

Quetz

[hexed forge]

Swamp and riverdelta regions seem like they will be one big area. Enclosed by fences.

Not sure yet!

[acoustic osprey]

I sector
J Sector

[valid geyser]

That is not quetz

[hexed forge]

I sector seems to be the region north of riverdelta. Seperated from riverdelta.

The dotted line isnt an actual fence btw, just to show a region.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though
not all sectors need to be bordered with fences

[hexed forge]

This seems unlikely, its basically just cutting through the middle of the predicted sector.

[patent ginkgo]

Cliffs!

[acoustic osprey]

and we're yet to see fences in that area though
sadly

[hexed forge]

Riverdelta

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

Judging by F5... AE had many ways to map out Gateway. Anything is possible.

[patent ginkgo]

I am very curious to know what F5, H4, and the like are

[hexed forge]

F5 is a skybase.

[patent ginkgo]

If not grid squares

[fast forge]

I like the idea of something like this with coordinate clues

[acoustic osprey]

H4 likely still proper
maybe
looking at the given footage from AUGUSTUS

F5?... who knows anymore

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/helicarrier-avengers-gif-21184326

[patent ginkgo]

Don does…

[hexed forge]

I wish we could just get ONE HINT!!

On F5..

Is it a human structure or a region..

[fast forge]

F5 could simply be GUTS construction underground, under the water

[hexed forge]

Exactly.

[hexed forge]

But.

Why start it with GW then?

Gateway.

[fast forge]

it's still on Gateway, and connected to the Gateway GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
but why refer to location GW_F5 in the specs section of the video

[fast forge]

Because it's the Gateway GUTS, at F5

[acoustic osprey]

still doesn't make much sense

[hexed forge]

An also they also described it as

"GW area F5"

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as they're recording at H15

[patent ginkgo]

I do wonder, could f5 be more a department/team/etc designation rather than a location?

[hexed forge]

They called it an area.

[acoustic osprey]

to refer to the information as that location

[patent ginkgo]

Ah

[fast forge]

I'm really done with theorizing about GW_F5 tbh, Don said it won't make sense, so I'll wait

[patent ginkgo]

What else do we have to theorize about…

[acoustic osprey]

YOU

[hexed forge]

FENCES!

[fast forge]

Could just be where it was edited'

[valid geyser]

QUETZ?

[patent ginkgo]

I would like to be in the lore

[hexed forge]

That section specifically describes the location of the clip tho.

The specs of the T-Cam basically. (And the specific clip)

[patent ginkgo]

Perhaps a plant project name

[fast forge]

While that makes the most sense, we know it doesn't line up. Idk what the answer really is, just grasping at straws at this point

[hexed forge]

[patent ginkgo]

“Ongoing development in Project JOLLY has produced interesting results, replication of photosynthetic cells advised”

[patent ginkgo]

[acoustic osprey]

that was one of the theories

[hexed forge]

Oh ahah

[patent ginkgo]

We should all get something like that!!!

[hexed forge]

But then why!!!

Why did AE do that. Seems like a bad way of archiving information.

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/5aaa5d0c6760a7f98fbc88cc8c5c0c49

[hexed forge]

Ooo I wonder where this camera is located at-

Huh, doesn't say?

[acoustic osprey]

we just lack information on the given format of the that slide

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

(same on AUGUSTUS as is the Dibble vid)

[hexed forge]

Nothing on F5 makes sense so far

We just have to wait for Don.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-pirates-of-the-caribbean-at-world's-end-at-worlds-end-bill-nighy-gif-9174278594850242678

[patent ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[zenith frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[fast forge]

All good things come with time

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[acoustic osprey]

time takes time you know

[patent ginkgo]

I do hope we get some simple incident reports, like something with deino blocking a boat ramp, or perhaps something on dock-omnis

[hexed forge]

I hope we get something nice on the devblog. This is the main thing to look forward too so far.

[patent ginkgo]

Oh yeah, forgot that it’s soon

[hexed forge]

The closest thing* I should say.

[valid geyser]

Cerato

What time is it for you.

[hexed forge]

5-6 days!!

[hexed forge]

The same time that it is for you.

[patent ginkgo]

Right around when I go on a bit of a trip

[valid geyser]

Perhaps
You should sleep.

[hexed forge]

No

[patent ginkgo]

So unfortunately I won’t have my computer, but I will have my phone

[hexed forge]

Hey islanders,

New lore hunt!

[hexed forge]

Why tho

[patent ginkgo]

[valid geyser]

Because Uhm

Then.. you can dream about fences….

[hexed forge]

Oh

[valid geyser]

And when dreaming your brain go ggrhrrhlrlejrh and become more energy so

[acoustic osprey]

Hey Islanders!

Lore is being unlored!

[valid geyser]

You can think about fences more and more theories!!

[hexed forge]

NOOOOOOO

[acoustic osprey]

enjoy!

[hexed forge]

We will probably get a vat concept. Extremely likely. But not 100%

I said this 10x today

Maybe I'm a bit insane.

Kissen also said allo news in devblog!!!-

What else..

https://tenor.com/view/cat-insane-cat-meme-insanity-losing-grip-gif-2901353152573298214

[lethal moat]

More Docks stuff would be cool

[valid geyser]

Cerato you should sleep before i send troodons after you

[hexed forge]

I have a gun and NV goggles. Send them in!

[hexed forge]

I just hope we get them ingame this year.

[acoustic osprey]

VATS!!

[hexed forge]

No

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Why

[fast forge]

Vats feels more like a GUTS or underground thing than any of the surface facilities (maybe domes)

[hexed forge]

In perimeter seems likely

But I don't think we will see Vats ingame anytime soon. Probably when GUTS are in we will get to see it.

[acoustic osprey]

Perm could be likely

who knows what's inside the walls of Perm
besides the front entrance, of course

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

6 straight km of opportunity

[neon gorge]

cheese

[acoustic osprey]

i see

[lethal moat]

Said the blind man

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/swag-gif-23409610

[hexed forge]

Why cheese

[lethal moat]

I was hoping you didn’t see

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fast forge]

hi

[hexed forge]

Hi

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-stare-sesame-street-rocco-death-stare-gif-24438342

[hexed forge]

Oh

Bye.

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-17048449662472934214

[zenith frigate]

[neon gorge]

does it make sound

[zenith frigate]

[acoustic osprey]

Latest lore podcast episode is out

[lethal moat]

[lone grotto]

theres a podcast?

[lethal moat]

Yep

[lone grotto]

link please?

[lethal moat]

#videos-and-streams message

[lone grotto]

thank you

[lethal moat]

Np

[lethal moat]

So what's on the current list of projects?

1. Figure out Perimeter's rough cost
2. Lore doc with sources

[acoustic osprey]

Mmmm

Seems to be right

[acoustic osprey]

with 2 though
Should we redo/fix the current doc?

or make a new doc?

with either
How should we do sources?

Should all "information" be sourced? - if a picture is needed for each

[acoustic osprey]

^ with this though, I think we should make a reference page on whatever Doc with discord links / a link to a '"LORE SOURCES" Google Drive'

i can make it look fancy and make it a proper reference page

preferably using my unis standard because it's pretty easy and I understand it lol

if we're using a Google Drive though for a image/reference bank
I'll make a public drive that anyone (preferably anyone we can trust) with perms to post references in

or everyone would have to send me/rump "X"
and we'll put it on the drive ourselves

[raw ridge]

you guys have an isle lore doc?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
in pinned as well

[hexed forge]

This sounds very hard to do. But what if we do a website

Idk if that's a good way to do it though

[lethal moat]

Some sort of wiki with links probably works best

[hexed forge]

^

Isaac your server was working on a wiki right?

[hexed forge]

Ah yes!

This. https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/Survive_The_Isle_Wiki

[hexed forge]

Whats the height of Perm

[lethal moat]

Don’t know

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/very-very-big-gill-engvid-very-huge-gigantic-gif-26262700

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[median shuttle]

always a pleasure to be of service

[hexed forge]

I think there might be a way to measure the height of the dome.

Thats if the altitude coordinate actually equals a measurement unit tho

But something is telling me that it indeed does not = a unit tho

[lethal moat]

It’s a unit, but we don’t know the unit at the moment

[hexed forge]

Im gonna guess its meters.

But we shall never know

[zenith frigate]

Could get a rough measurement by putting a cera at the lowest point and figureing out how many ceras in height the dome is

[hexed forge]

Going to try to do that on the live branch.

[zenith frigate]

lol im doing the same

[bitter isle]

u guys finding new measurment units

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-america-gif-14280685

[hexed forge]

Trying to figure out the height of the perimeter dome and what measurement unit is the altitude coordinate.

[bitter isle]

exactly

[hexed forge]

Just realized I clicked pause on the damn download, so it wasnt downloading at all for the past 15 minutes

[zenith frigate]

Do we know if whoever made the 3D print made it with the correct proportions

[lethal moat]

I’ll check

[hexed forge]

Vraptor?

[zenith frigate]

we could use it to get a rough size

[lethal moat]

Yep

[hexed forge]

I hope he used the correct proportions.

Maybe not.

[zenith frigate]

The height is 38,500
no idea the unit

[lethal moat]

CM?

[zenith frigate]

maybe

we need something to compare it with

like if we could get the height of a dino in coordinates

im gonna use a gate because that seems manageable gimme a minute

[hexed forge]

Sounds like ft- wait no.

How tall is a herrera.

[lethal moat]

385 meters sounds about right

[zenith frigate]

im really hoping we have official heights for dinos

[hexed forge]

Whats the height of the bottom layer.

The one circled in red.

We should start with that probably.

[zenith frigate]

thats the easy bit

[lethal moat]

That would be the concrete area

[hexed forge]

mhm

[zenith frigate]

its 15 sections long roughly

for each side

[hexed forge]

Not every side is equal

[zenith frigate]

omg this sucks so much more than i thought

[lethal moat]

The length of each side is a KM on the outer edge

[hexed forge]

Or is it?

I remember Rumple saying two of the sides being 2km or smthn.

[zenith frigate]

the heights are different i know

are they a KM

[lethal moat]

From farthest point to point, it’s 2 km, straight through the middle, each side is 1 km

[hexed forge]

Yep not every side is equal.

Just counted the highland bridge side with 13 sections.

[zenith frigate]

13 but you need to add two for the big beams seperating each side

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[zenith frigate]

eh use 14 for a better approximate

[hexed forge]

I think 15 would be good.

[zenith frigate]

aight then we just need the length of one section

[hexed forge]

Hold on

Well that didnt work

How tall is an adult omni

[zenith frigate]

1.8 meters

if the wiki is correct

[hexed forge]

Thanks.- Well now its likely incorrect.

I never trust the wiki

The isle wiki that is.

Gonna try comparing omni to a door.

[zenith frigate]

lol just waiting for my replay so i can do the same thing with a pachy

[hexed forge]

1.8-1.9 seems about right actually.

[zenith frigate]

omni is 6ft
its about a bit taller
i'd say about 6.5 feet which is almost 2m

[hexed forge]

Cera seems to be almost directly 2 meters. We can use that to compare.

[zenith frigate]

oh well that works

[hexed forge]

Yep

Now time to stack ceras in an edited screenshot

@zenith frigate Can you get on Shirley rq?

Shirley is Lorecord's admin server btw

[icy onyx]

Omg could we use this for my 1 hour rain vid for lore purposes

[hexed forge]

Sure.

Are you in lorecord?

[icy onyx]

No but I would like to join

[hexed forge]

Check Dms

Make sure to click the checkmark in rules

[zenith frigate]

had to deal with something real quick
im on

[hexed forge]

Can you see the chat?

[hexed forge]

@icy onyx btw

[icy onyx]

Yes?

[hexed forge]

Did you do that?

[icy onyx]

Yep

[hexed forge]

Slowly coming together..

[zenith frigate]

thats awesome

[meager junco]

Are you-measuring perimeter in ceras?

[hexed forge]

Ye- yes.

[meager junco]

LOL

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

that is the best thing in a while

[hexed forge]

They are basically 2 meters tall so it was the best option!!

[zenith frigate]

Did something similar

Figured out that the coordinate system is really close to being milimeters

[meager junco]

Not a bad technique

[hexed forge]

hmmmmmm

[zenith frigate]

might just be mm if I messed up my stacking

[acoustic osprey]

Second pachy

[lethal moat]

Mm sounds about right

[zenith frigate]

if we use mm it makes the dome 38.5m tall or 126.31 ft

[hexed forge]

Alright so.

[lethal moat]

That’s too small

[zenith frigate]

yeah

[hexed forge]

The main part of Perimeter is about 96-100 meters tall if my cera technique is good.

[fast forge]

whatever is going on in here, I approve

[hexed forge]

Does this sound valid? Or too small/big?

[zenith frigate]

that feels correct

if each side is 1km long

[hexed forge]

Basically this big wall.

[lethal moat]

Working towards figuring out the value of Perimeter’s materials

[hexed forge]

1 Km is 1000 meters right?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[zenith frigate]

yes also i might be stupid

gimme 2 seconds

its centimeters
making the dome 385m tall

[lethal moat]

That sounds accurate

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

So the area of one wall is about.... 96000-100000 meters. Now to find the volume..

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-proceeding-exactly-foreseen-on-course-gif-13921002

[zenith frigate]

lol

[hexed forge]

You checked gamefiles cheater 🫵

[fast forge]

sounds boring, but potentially important
continue without me

[zenith frigate]

your boring

[fast forge]

sometimes

[lethal moat]

You’re

[fast forge]

Yer

[hexed forge]

The width is about 100 meters. 100 meter thick wall. Damn.

So if we do all that-

[zenith frigate]

something seems off about that

[hexed forge]

hmm does it?

I teleported to each side and then found the distance between each side, about 100 meters.

[acoustic osprey]

Do note though

[zenith frigate]

actually yeah that does seem right

[acoustic osprey]

That won't be full cement

[zenith frigate]

just an aproximation

[hexed forge]

Correct. But we are trying to find atleast the maximum cost

[acoustic osprey]

There will be things within
Like the entrance

[zenith frigate]

70% cement 30% metal maybe

[hexed forge]

Lets just deal with 100% cement first.

[zenith frigate]

aight

[acoustic osprey]

If you need
I can do some more exact calculations

[lethal moat]

Rebar is necessary

[zenith frigate]

then we'll figure out a rough percentage of rebar to cement

lets deal with the size first

[hexed forge]

Well this isnt helpful at all now isnt it.

Anyways.

It should beee

9,800,000 meters for one side.

cubed

All sides would be

58800000 meters cubed.

[lethal moat]

How thick is the cement, because volume of a whole platform and of a ring would be very different

[hexed forge]

hmmmmmmm

How do we find that out tho.

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Well.

https://tenor.com/view/mathematologist-spongebob-it-sounds-like-a-lot-sounds-like-a-lot-gif-17729406

[zenith frigate]

only metal and glass on the top part

[hexed forge]

1 Ton is about $125

[zenith frigate]

base section is mainly concrete
I'll work on calculating the glass and metal needed for the top part

[hexed forge]

Yeah top doesnt have any cement/very little.

[hexed forge]

$2876205787.5

$2,876,205,787.50

2 Billion dollars.

Does that seem low?

Well it might be way higher with the tons of metal and glass actually.

[hexed forge]

@lethal moat Thoughts?

[zenith frigate]

i think we expected it to be somewhere in the billions so that seems good

[hexed forge]

Now the glass and metal...

[lethal moat]

For just the concrete?

[hexed forge]

Yep.

Its probably much higher with the metal and glass.

[young viper]

imagine the time it would take to be built

[hexed forge]

Either took thousands of underpaid workers or a decent amount of workers and took them many years to finish.

Many years.... probably like 10+ maybe.

[young viper]

10-19 years

maybe

With no snack breaks

[lethal moat]

Did you take out the space in the middle where there isn’t concrete?

[hexed forge]

In the middle?

Middle of perm?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, the concrete is a ring, not a platform

[hexed forge]

We didnt include that no.

[lethal moat]

That would make it waaaaay more expensive than it actually is

If you send me the dimensions and prices you used, I can try and base it off of a 40-50 meter thick wall

[hexed forge]

You are going to calculate the ring?

[lethal moat]

When I get off work, yeah

[hexed forge]

I used $125 per ton of concrete according to google.

[lethal moat]

What’s the height of the concrete area?

[hexed forge]

96-100 meters, I used 98 meters to be safe.

[lethal moat]

98 meters tall

[hexed forge]

Yep.

[lethal moat]

Ight, I can probably do this pretty quickly later

[hexed forge]

If you are talking about this, its actually way taller than the walls. So I would say about 200 meters tall actually.

250*

Yeah 250-300 Seems fair.

275 then, final estimate.

Keeps increasing everytime I look at it

[lament acorn]

356

[hexed forge]

356 is the height of the entire dome.

Wait no its 380, still not 356 tho. I doubt.

[lament acorn]

idk im just saying random numbers

[lament acorn]

Meters or feet?

[zenith frigate]

m

[hexed forge]

Meters

[lament acorn]

Dome seems way bigger then that

[hexed forge]

You can run down perimeter using a cera without going under 20% stam.

Illusion perhaps? making it seem bigger. Not sure. But yeah it seems way bigger than 358.

[lament acorn]

Well 358 width or height?

[hexed forge]

Height.

[zenith frigate]

Math has failed me
I resort to counting pachys once more

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

How thick would you say the walls are? 75 meters seem about right?

[hexed forge]

Seems about right.

[lethal moat]

So, I used 60 because bulk concrete is typically cheaper

And got $10,174,752

Which seems about right

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

For me that seems low, but Im not a specialist in concrete or how construction works so I have no say if its accurate or not.

[lethal moat]

But with rebar it becomes waaaaaaay more expensive

• $2,204,529.599999999 for rebar

[hexed forge]

🗿

https://tenor.com/view/sml-joseph-dude-thats-a-lot-thats-a-lot-a-lot-gif-17318874141890327037

[hexed forge]

What did you try to calculate.

[lethal moat]

So, for the foundation of Perimeter alone has put back AE $12,379,261.60 in materials

[zenith frigate]

im attempting to get one of the sides of the top part

it is not going well

[hexed forge]

And then I assume they worked on the walls. Which costed them almost 2.9 Billion.

If I did my math correctly

[hexed forge]

oof

[lethal moat]

I don’t want to start on walls yet

[lone grotto]

thats a lot of money

[acoustic osprey]

so i'm opening Perm's models in Blender

[vocal relic]

Probably a drop in the bucket for a genetics and pharmaceutical juggernaut with potential ties to multiple government organizations

[acoustic osprey]

which shows the true length of each model

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes
AE is just a subsidiary for the large Apollo corp

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/for-a-reasonable-fee-talent-fee-payment-charge-compensation-gif-15016219

[valid geyser]

There’s two kinds of lore people

Those who measure each side and height with Cerato…

And those who open blender to get the size

[zenith frigate]

IM WORKING WITH WHAT I HAVE
COME ON

[acoustic osprey]

also
spending money on AE would be GREAT for taxable deductions

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-work-harder-work-smarter-playing-piano-gif-12909091

[zenith frigate]

aight I got this so far

[hexed forge]

This is clealy better.

[hexed forge]

You know you can just.. teleport to each point.. and.. Find the distance in CM.. and convert the CM into M..

Dont tell me you used pachies..

[zenith frigate]

somehow the pachys worked better

[valid geyser]

:)

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

longest is 1282m

[hexed forge]

Not nice!

[acoustic osprey]

actually hold on
no

it should be 672m

[hexed forge]

Impossible.

[lone grotto]

so whats the end goal to measuring all of this?

[acoustic osprey]

fun

[zenith frigate]

fun

[hexed forge]

Finding the possible cost of Perimeter. (With what we have ingame)

[acoustic osprey]

(to see how much money AE will spend for tax deductibles)

[hexed forge]

^

[lone grotto]

lmfao

[hexed forge]

When we are starving for lore we just start finding out and learning about the most useless things yes.

[valid geyser]

Y’all are assuming AE’s world has the same prices as ours

[zenith frigate]

wait wdym it should 672m
DO YOU KNOW THE MEASUREMENTS

[valid geyser]

What if they got some bad inflation

[lone grotto]

imma say they spent a lot and leave it at that 😭

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey It has to be wrong! No way!

[acoustic osprey]

it is right

[hexed forge]

...
Why the hell did I measure perimeter with ceras for 30 minutes..

[acoustic osprey]

on a 1x scale
the glass scales at that length

[valid geyser]

And here’s where the lore person questions their sanity

[hexed forge]

ISAAC YOU HAD ALL THE MEASUREMENTS AND NEVER TOLD US RAHHHH

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-belt-gif-25195876

(blender)

[valid geyser]

Blender is free and does WONDERS!!

[zenith frigate]

where does I acquire such a model

[hexed forge]

We do a little datamining. (I think?)

[valid geyser]

Yeah wher get models to practic stuf

[hexed forge]

Belt.

[zenith frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1254462717666787369/WhenIGetYou.gif

[hexed forge]

We should sacrifice Isaac to the replicator for not telling us this piece of information.

Whos against that idea?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/davy-jones-pirates-of-the-caribbean-at-world's-end-at-worlds-end-bill-nighy-gif-9174278594850242678

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[zenith frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[patent ginkgo]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[lethal moat]

Abraham is in

[zenith frigate]

I should probably join the lore server if anyone has that invite link

[lethal moat]

Totally thought you were already in lol

[fast forge]

okay, now how much does perimeter weigh?

[lethal moat]

The concrete is 169,579.1999999999 tons

[fast forge]

okay but what about the other stuff

[lethal moat]

Haven’t done that yet

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/hSTy_BInQs8
sending this here (and watching it now) for future lore

[acoustic osprey]

I think wiki is a bit 50/50
it's definitely good for information

but it's just finicky
honestly

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.evrimaquickguide.com/the-isle-lore
honestly
these guys have made a website for all things Isle

including Lore

we could work with them more
I know they've added a few of my things

[strange shell]

Oh I've started using this recently
It's neat

[acoustic osprey]

i want to use this more as well

just generally on a whole
I know i like to overanalyse stuff - mostly in topics I like

so why not, instead of shower thoughting it all, just write it down?

but I also want to put my isle lore thoughts in there as well

https://gyazo.com/b3eb8f7098de2ec02a8cd7b6422dcab5
have a MASSIVE section with "isle lore" and see it slowly creep into other topics i like

eg. probably a lot of mixing in with ethics, greek mythos and animals (specifically dinosaurs)

[hexed forge]

Hmm, force them to work with us then

[lethal moat]

Obsidian is probably the better way to go tbh

[strange shell]

Hmm, obsidian is the toughest material you can work with
It's a bit expensive since you need a diamond pickaxe to extract it and lava, but it's fully explosion-proof

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

You likely are correct with that one, my cost seems out of place.

Might need to recalculate it.

[strange shell]

It's funny though cuz irl obsidian is very brittle

[median shuttle]

I have a shard of obsidian in my room

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-knifekid-noo-funny-escape-gif-12781000

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-hand-out-give-me-orangutan-give-me-hand-out-mine-gif-27199184

When you wake up

give

[icy onyx]

😂

[lethal moat]

Obsidian is probably the way to go for the lore with sources prohect

[median shuttle]

anyone feel like scattered ancient ruins on gateway would make an interesting lore addition?

[lethal moat]

Depends the area of the world Gateway’s in

[median shuttle]

thats the thing, since I'm pretty sure Gateway is located somewhere along the pacific ring of fire, so maybe ancient structures could give a clue as to where the island might be located

[valid geyser]

Seeing some semi sunken ancient ruins would be neat, especially if there were caves to explore and some crooked pillars were down there, just buried by time

[median shuttle]

like ancient southeastasian, mesoamericanor southamerican ruins it could give a really cool vibe and maybe add areas to explore as dinosaurs and humans

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-buscemi-big-daddy-pointing-this-guy-knows-gif-11859501

[hexed forge]

I don't think so

[lethal moat]

I doubt it

But on one of the islands, it could be cool

[lethal moat]

Not ready yet, but that doesn’t mean they’ll be unlocked

Currently unknown

Other than the strong implication of redwoods in Perimeter

[median shuttle]

Observation I just made, the sun on gateway sets almost exactly west, so the island might be located somewhere along the equator (this might also be just simple skybox stuff)

[valid geyser]

I mean this is maybe even more specific and likely wouldn’t tell anything, but are big storms called hurricanes or typhoons on that island

[hexed forge]

Doesn't say anywhere

[valid geyser]

Just for the future

[lethal moat]

Wonder if the islands are clustered or scattered

[valid geyser]

[meager junco]

Maybe they’re like in the Jurassic park universe, kinda like the Cinque Muertos(Five Deaths)

[fast forge]

We do have this Diabloceratops migration data from the dibble vid, and it shows a dibble going inside (or under) the big dome, so they may be unlocked eventually

The current leading theory for the purpose of the domes is testing the ecological management of genetically engineered organisms

[median shuttle]

also if you clip inside perimeter there are some gates and human areas already in. + the Domes now have glass roofs in the HT.

[fast forge]

Yeah, I'm pretty positive they'll be open eventually

[valid geyser]

I can already see me as a quetz not realising I’m near the glass and going BONK into the walls

[median shuttle]

lmao I think you'll see your reflection

[valid geyser]

bonk

I have a glass door in my house I have walked into countless times

[zenith frigate]

Kinda old but this is a pretty good idea of what the domes will be when done

[snow jasper]

Really hope the domes are fleshed out fully sooner than later

[kindred escarp]

That sounds sick 😍🤩

[patent ginkgo]

If only we could get a botany dome 😔

[lethal moat]

Strain plants

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-giorgio-conspiracion-memealiens-aliens-history-historychannel-gif-9621737

[patent ginkgo]

Unfortunately botany sector isn’t planned for gateway

[median shuttle]

same here, I think having new areas to explore would be lovely and the domes just look so intriguing being locked away from us

[lethal moat]

Botany boat TM

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[fast forge]

I feel like they are all botany domes

[hexed forge]

[patent ginkgo]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

as botany and ecology research are likely the reason for building them in the first place

[hexed forge]

No botany domes

[lethal moat]

Dones

[hexed forge]

Never happened

[fast forge]

what is a "botany sector" then? I don't think they built the domes for dinosaurs

[patent ginkgo]

Ecology could be likely, as that’s moreso the integration of both plants and animals

[patent ginkgo]

Let me find the quote

[fast forge]

so you mean like, strictly plant-only research? I still think if you have a dome full of redwoods, the redwoods are the important part

[patent ginkgo]

Does anyone have the thing to let me search for don’s messages?

[lethal moat]

Pinned comments in lorecord

[patent ginkgo]

Oh thanks I completely forgot about that

#isle-discussion message

This was rather unfortunate news

[fast forge]

yeah but this isn't really what I meant

I just meant ecological studies, with a focus on the plants because they are the backbone of the ecosystem

And when I said the plants are engineered, I just meant non-visible changes like the oranges and cashews - something like the redwoods growing really fast or whatever

[patent ginkgo]

I mean, that’s likely, and yeah engineered plants are already on the island, so you’re right. Though I would love a proper botany sector in a dome, instead of simply another biome

[fast forge]

On this subject, I like the idea of environmental hazards/PvE using giant carnivorous plants

[patent ginkgo]

Yes, absolutely

[median shuttle]

oh yeah

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/chomper-plants-vs-zombies-gulp-swallow-ingest-gif-27024690

[median shuttle]

more envoirenmental hazards in general would be cool

[lethal moat]

More than cliffs

Giant crabs are going to be great, and I want them to be stealth dropped

[median shuttle]

I think they will be

[lethal moat]

Chittering, followed by a lot of screaming in vc

[normal kestrel]

My theory is that the island is set in the year 2300, where humans managed to revive the dinosaurs but the dinosaurs managed to reproduce so they killed all the humans, That's why there are abandoned buildings that humans left

Dinosaurs ruled the earth, and humans became extinct

[patent ginkgo]

Humans will be playable

Well, gen2

[median shuttle]

the game may take place sometime around the 2000s

[patent ginkgo]

Perhaps

[normal kestrel]

Some humans managed to stay alive at first, but it's only a matter of time before humans become extinct.

[patent ginkgo]

2172 is also a potential year

[patent ginkgo]

AE controls the islands

[normal kestrel]

Who is AE

[patent ginkgo]

Hehehehe

[normal kestrel]

Artificial Enteligence?

[patent ginkgo]

Take a look at the pinned lore documents here

[patent ginkgo]

Apollo Engineering

[fast forge]

We don't have a lot of lore, but what we do have goes deep

[normal kestrel]

The island is in the Bermuda Triangle, so the dinosaurs on this island were the only ones not affected after the asteroid, so a secret company discovered this island and studied the dinosaurs

[patent ginkgo]

Nope the dinos were created

[lethal moat]

There are multiple islands, we don’t know where they’re located

[lethal moat]

Also, having crabs of certain sizes only respond to larger creatures could be fun

[hexed forge]

I think we only know about 2 islands right now, we know what they are atleast. Kind of

[hexed forge]

Hunting reserve island
And Gateway

(My internet is acting up so my msgs might be late..)

[lethal moat]

We can presume at least 1 more island I’d say because we haven’t seen any gen 1 stuff yet, and no island has all three, I doubt the reserve is for hunting gen 1

[hexed forge]

Fair enough

[lethal moat]

At least, as of what we currently know, things can change

[acoustic osprey]

I'd honestly say hunting would be for dinosaurs

Less inhumane

Hunting creatures, fodder basically, than hunting humanoids

[lethal moat]

I agree, that’s why I assumed the reserve was for dinos, thus, a third island at minimum is a logical conclusion

[knotty locust]

however.........,

some humans may

desire

to hunt something that is human, and not human, to avoid legal consequences......,

[knotty locust]

whats that quote say again

something to do with "humans being the ultimate game"

[lethal moat]

Sounds deranged

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/agree-good-points-agreed-nice-gif-10723951

[fast forge]

I still think there is an island for breeding and raising the animals, that's why dibble had generations prior to injection.
That being said, it could also be the same island as one of the ones you mentioned

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

I definitely believe it's akin to The Lost World

at least
in the idea that Gateway is far more "free-ranged"
less sterile and more "natural"

we, at least, see the dibbles, in the injection video, migrating quite far and freely throughout Gateway

i definitely believe the video points to some sort of dinosaur "creation" island/area as you refer to Tiny

I'm presuming likely a specialised facility(s)

a bit like Kamino, in Star Wars

it could also be pointing to why it is also the second injection (presumably either of all Dibbles of that phenotype or or the generation)
that whatever and however the "first injection" was done on Gateway (either of the gen or all dibbles of that phenotype) - it was likely a far more failed attempt

likely either incapable of surviving
or, potentially, was immunocompromised if you want to go the bio-engineering isn't going to be successful 24/7 rouite
etc

however
I suppose
it all depends on how AE (and The Replicator) create and prepare for something like an Injection

and with that
are Injections just for Gateway?

[fast forge]

I wonder if they added the cashews and oranges specifically because Injection 1 dibbles were starving/malnourished

[acoustic osprey]

what use do Injections bring? What are AE testing, especially bringing these animals into a more "wild" habitat?

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't be surprised honestly.

[fast forge]

rewilding maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

add a bit of chaos theory
you can't know how an animal is going to re-act to a new environment

and I imagine that would be the Dibble's standard diet at "X" location/facility prior to Gateway injection

[fast forge]

idk

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

there could also be a potential that all (replications) creatures must go onto a prep-phase/hatchling phase?
with that though

i say there is a definite potential that all (at least, most) islands have this phase
Which would give reason to have the Domes - to some degree.

Potentially

all depends

[turbid egret]

What if the Domes serve to observer the creatures of the island better ?

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

i doubt the domes are merely just observatory
if anything

there's better cost-effective way of observation

point and shoot at the trail cams, being one method

more personal/human?
Ranger towers / high hide from The Lost World

I really hope we can make something like this in-game

[lethal moat]

i'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK

[acoustic osprey]

if not
I will make it one of my missions to do so

[lethal moat]

Capslock

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-two-the-lost-gif-21859328

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-3-male-velociraptor-call-2001-gif-13009653221698170076

[lethal moat]

Wonder if there's some sort of siren for if something like a hyper or a neuro escapes and employees are to take shelter

(Press E to break glass)
(Natural disaster warning sirens activate all over the island)

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

if there is one
i think we lack one of yet, currently

I do hope to see something akin to that idea

i can't imagine AE not having some sort of alert system, especially with the existence of strains

[lethal moat]

Tornado sirens

[pulsar yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/spinotasuchus-spinosaurus-gif-18095867

[fast forge]

tbh spino always struck me as a somewhat fragile-looking dino

especially when compared to something like rex

[acoustic osprey]

reality is that is was never meant to live on land
had to be debuffed

[hexed forge]

I saw this on my YT page

[lethal moat]

One must imagine Spino as one thing

[hexed forge]

Its clearly a pterosaur that lived in trees smh

[fast forge]

oh hey, I've been watching Ben G Thomas for a few years - they are all young, but really good at what they do

[median shuttle]

yeah, theyre stuff is really good

[patent ginkgo]

i just logged out of one of the scariest isle moments ive had

i was a 60% grown gator being stalked by two others through the whole swamp, they were so close

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

i had to start only walking while they were to cover the noise of my footsteps, hiding behind those swamp maze things

wait im on the wrong chat whoops

no wonder no one was responding

[lethal moat]

Lol

[patent ginkgo]

time to copy paste into discussion

[median shuttle]

soooooo, Lore?

[valid geyser]

Lore!!

[lethal moat]

Dev blog in either 3 or 6 days, hopefully we get something then

[patent ginkgo]

I want an incedent report of a giant deinosuchus blocking a boat ramp by sitting there and basking

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[lethal moat]

The named Deino: Fat Allen

[icy onyx]

Dude I just want something about the eyeless 😭

[lethal moat]

~Gen 1.5

[icy onyx]

Same thing

[lethal moat]

I want to know how they change

[icy onyx]

I want to play as one and scare human players

Also was that allo trail cam video real and if so do any of you have the link?

[lethal moat]

When this guy gets upgraded to eyeless, I want him to have red racing stripes (don’t ask what it’s made of)

[strange shell]

red paint ?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, lore people found it https://youtu.be/-rVBfUgcCuw?si=OmYMKNQRTx_au_sA

[median shuttle]

we need humans for that first lol, didnt a dev (kissen iirc) mention sth about more human stuff dropping from time to time once sparring is done?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-gif-20462984

[median shuttle]

Ketchup!

[icy onyx]

Did the devs confirm this..? It just seems like a random glitch allo vide to me on a random channel

[median shuttle]

thats how you track them, ripped open ketchup packets

[lethal moat]

Found the link in game

[icy onyx]

Ohhhhh cool

So it was allo? Dang I wanted it to be Alberto or something (I'm a sucker for Albertos or gorgos)

[lethal moat]

Looks that way

[icy onyx]

Oof dang, so when do we think it's dropping if it seems playable enough now

[lethal moat]

No etas

There will be ✨signs🌟 though

[icy onyx]

Nah I mean what do you imagine it would be, tbh I think by December

[lethal moat]

Not a clue, we’ve seen animations and a video, we don’t have any idea how complete it is

[median shuttle]

we cant really guess for sure till we get some more info on how far it is in development, kissen said she might talk abt it in the dev blog tho

[icy onyx]

I hope we get human stuff soon, I mean, it's basically playable

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

Playable doesn’t mean ready

[median shuttle]

yeah me too but I think the human areas need to get fleshed out more before they can get introduced into the official servers

[icy onyx]

Obviously, I said it was playable, not ready

[lethal moat]

I’d rather it be more complete, than just shoving them in

[lethal moat]

More human stuff is always nice, I believe we’re hoping for cloning vat stuff in the dev blog right?

[icy onyx]

If anything, the only thing I want in the devlog is literally anything human or gen 1 related

[lethal moat]

I love my pewpews

[icy onyx]

I wanna shoot dinosaurs already, bro, idc what YouTubers say about balancing let me shoot a rex🙏😭

[lethal moat]

Good luck finding the gun parts and bullets 🫡

[strange shell]

You can find those easily on a fresh corpse

[icy onyx]

No way they're pulling a DayZ because I used to have terrible luck on that game😭

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-little-one-im-sorry-sorry-thanos-gif-22851713

[icy onyx]

I'll just kill and cannibalize other people 🤷‍♂️

[lethal moat]

Hope they find gun parts then

My plan is to have like, 20 human shields

[icy onyx]

Not on my watch, I'ma kill any fresh spawn humans I see when they drop

[lethal moat]

Don’t give them the chance

[icy onyx]

Like how baby turtles get picked off by birds but the turtles are fresh spawn humans and the birds are me with guns

[lethal moat]

I think lorecord’s plan is going to be to lock down the docks, then move around once we get vehicles

[icy onyx]

Lorecord?

[lethal moat]

The lore discord for the isle

[hexed forge]

Good idea, when docks are out its going to be the most popular visiting spot, we might get to see a lot of action.

[icy onyx]

There's a lore discord..? I need in

[lethal moat]

I’ll DM you

[icy onyx]

Please do

[lethal moat]

There’s a lot of us

[strange shell]

Hence Rumple takes another soul

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/real-estate-impatient-gif-20983622

[hexed forge]

Yes but, theres gonna be like only around 10 people playing at the same time

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping some of the shipping containers have supplies like MREs

[neon gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-movie-jerma-lore-mystery-of-the-mayan-treasure-pier-rats-gif-16375444

[lethal moat]

If not, it might just be laying out a path of places that will be meetup spots, and slowly gathering from smaller groups

[fast forge]

bald cypress knees?

[patent ginkgo]

No the dirt walls

[tardy python]

What is human gameplay even gonna be

Have they said anything about it

[lethal moat]

It’s been described as similar to dayZ with safari style activities, i imagine people will turn it into KOS simulator though

[hexed forge]

The gun aspect is inspired off of Escape from Tarkov right?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

It’s very customizable

If 50 bmg didn’t belong in a 12 gauge shotgun, why did they make it fit

[summer hedge]

any ideas what could have done this?

[lethal moat]

Hypers or people is our current guesses

[misty river]

dondi

[hexed forge]

Specifically Uga

[hexed forge]

You brought up an interesting point with Hypers.

Why are they called Hyper fences if they cant contain Hypers.

Unless the strain turned out to be at a higher level of strength than expected.

[summer hedge]

i mean how though? surley hyper claws arent THAT sharp

[lethal moat]

I think it's people

[hexed forge]

Could be, or could be another AE asset.

Matriarch, colossus, etc.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/escape-bye-leaving-break-out-freedom-gif-16077483

[snow jasper]

A giant banana with 6 limbs and shoulder mounted canons did it

[hexed forge]

🗿

[lethal moat]

There's a lot of things

I think it was explosives

[summer hedge]

imean that would hurt the dino though but its sheer weight would be enough

[hexed forge]

Why though?

[misty river]

the fact ~10 feet of reinforced concrete is just blown open really hints its not a living creature

[lethal moat]

It's too clean

[hexed forge]

Why would people do that is what Im asking.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

Spite, profit, why do people do anything

[snow jasper]

In the name of the Replicator

( im not suggesting or stating thus tho )

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

[valid geyser]

one
two
threeee!

[misty river]

maybe its a nedry sitation

[valid geyser]

CHOMP
three!

[lethal moat]

I like the idea of "Special forces break onto island to get information and they do not know dinosaurs are there"

[summer hedge]

could it possibly be melted or something? the cut on the bars

[misty river]

idk man i just see explosive force

[hexed forge]

Blow up multiple sections in a large fence, how could that go wrong!

I think there is like, 5-6 sections broken in the NE fence. iirc

[misty river]

the weird part is how the wire got blown up too

[summer hedge]

NE is a good place to put that stuff ngl

when i look at it it looks like something burnt a hole through the fence , it looks a bit too neat to be crumbled

[lethal moat]

Shaped charge is my bet

[summer hedge]

could it possibly be a neuro or tisso, or something similar hypos are probs responsible for the larger damaged fence, since they are larger i guess

[lethal moat]

Don't know enough about either for evrima

[lethal moat]

CRAM/CIWS alarm style maybe

[lethal moat]

INCOMING
INCOMING
INCOMING
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[hexed forge]

A-10

https://tenor.com/view/brrrrt-bret-a10-warthog-gif-18817481

If you hear it, it wasnt aimed at you. You are safe.

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/IpMu3xgio9o

This is what I'm talking about

[hexed forge]

OHH, That.

I had no context to the discussion prior.

[lethal moat]

HYPER
HYPER
HYPER
DOORS SEALING IN 20 SECONDS

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-indoraptor-coming-down-the-hall-running-im-coming-for-you-gif-20871188

[lethal moat]

Neuro is just telling people to put on their tinfoil hats lol

[hexed forge]

You just see the Hyper coming after you like this^

And the doors BARELY saved you.

[lethal moat]

Exactly, some sort of alarm to announce a "strain event" would be sick

[fast forge]

neat

[knotty locust]

werent they called hyper fences by the community

[acoustic osprey]

yes

but also unofficially by Dondi

they likely have a name in-lore
probably just a (large/cemented) perimeter fence

[acoustic osprey]

HT?

[crystal atlas]

i love the tunnels

[knotty locust]

i know these are simply for rainwater purposes, but you'd think AE would put some form of grate to block off small creatures

[fast forge]

yes

[elder notch]

Where is that?

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/2a19a99b2ae6298301ec2a5fd9296eeb

[elder notch]

Ahh, ty

[fast forge]

I found another one of those holes along the farthest northern fences too

[hexed forge]

Thats been there since release

[lethal moat]

Wonder what Artemis is going to be assigned to

There’s got to be an Artemis somewhere in the lore

[balmy dawn]

Do we know for sure if any lore has been retconned since Legacy?

[lethal moat]

A ton of stuff is returning, but with some changes, like strains, gateway, gen 1, and EIPs

[balmy dawn]

Good to know. Thanks

[lethal moat]

Check this out: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[balmy dawn]

Thanks again. I appreciate it

[lethal moat]

Np

[acoustic osprey]

Likely the hunting lodge

[lethal moat]

I can see that being closer to Ares, but that works too, I guess it depends on how the hunting works and to what purpose

[hexed forge]

Botany/ecology.

Potentially the sector itself might be called the Artemis sector..

Or maybe there might be a set of plants called Artemis, a lot of possibilities.

But I believe botany/ecology seems reasonable.

[lethal moat]

Demeter

[hexed forge]

Agriculture..

That might be part of something else in Apollo. Since we know that agriculture has been a major thing in Apollo.

[lethal moat]

My initial thought was the tissoplastic program because FAST and DEADLY in legacy

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[hexed forge]

For Artemis?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
She is called the goddess of the hunt

[hexed forge]

Ooooo, that could also be it.

[lethal moat]

Artemis is a hunter goddess, and also maidenhood and childbirth I believe

[acoustic osprey]

Ares is more so about blood-lust of war

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[lethal moat]

That’s why I say it depends how the hunting lodge operates

[hexed forge]

"the goddess of wild animals, the hunt, and vegetation"

Google is... not giving me a very specific answer..

[acoustic osprey]

She is still the goddess of the hunt though

Nothing really fits better for a hunting lodge

[lethal moat]

Fair

[acoustic osprey]

Especially being the sister to Apollo

[acoustic osprey]

Each god were patrons to many things

[hexed forge]

Mhm, but as Im looking more into it.

Most of the sources specifically call her the goddess of the hunt.

So yeah, you are likely correct.

[lethal moat]

Apollo did A LOT

[acoustic osprey]

However
Apollo also hunted, they could just rebrand from her to him

[lethal moat]

Apollo had a lot of overlap with other gods

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo was given too many things!

[lethal moat]

The only thing he really kept was archery and music

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, his followers were the most wide spread

So naturally, turned god of the sun, took a lot of mantles

[lethal moat]

I’m gonna say it

Helios was better

[hexed forge]

Is there any god specifically known for healing?

[lethal moat]

Apollo and his son Asclepius

And also Artemis and Athena a bit

[hexed forge]

I think its mostly Asclepius. (Out of the 4)

[lethal moat]

Asclepius became the god of healing, taking the mantle from apollo

[hexed forge]

I see.

Wonder what that could be in lore.

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo was the greater of him though

[lethal moat]

Debatable

We use Asclepius’s staff on Ambulances, not Apollos

[acoustic osprey]

Asclepius got medicine and doctors, hence why hospitals have such (albeit, it was American hospitals that also used Hermes Caduceus)

But Apollo took the greater mantle healing.

Because he was connected to the Oracle
Such healing was with everything

Mentally sick?
Physically? Faithfully?

Poisoned with demons?

[lethal moat]

Prometheus did it better

I like titans

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tighten-megamind-yes-funny-pointing-gif-15740657

[lethal moat]

Giants are stinky, Olympians are blah, but Atlas is the single greatest character in all of greek mythos

[acoustic osprey]

literally atlas

[lethal moat]

Easily my favorite, would love to see a reference somewhere

[elder notch]

Hi guys, this morning i made this video and i want to know what do you think.
I made up the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncU0lf3Sh0w

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nero-down-phoenix-jv-gif-19803969

(thanks mod)

[knotty locust]

okay so something ive had a brief shower thought about

is the human soul mentioned anywhere when it comes to the lore aspect

this branched off of me thinking about the human brains/personality in animals, and the 1000 year contract

[acoustic osprey]

just EIPs

wait, are you asking about legacy as well though?

from the tip of my tongue
there are references to the human pschye

[knotty locust]

nah, just the EIP stuff

[acoustic osprey]

ah ok
then nothing really

[patent ginkgo]

Owlenstein’s annual appearance in lore theories

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-gif-25910152

[hexed forge]

Nice

[fast forge]

The cutest fire elemental

[lethal moat]

Define soul

[delicate delta]

yo, does anyone have any clues if the allo video was the only "easter egg" they put on the map?

[zenith frigate]

I think by brute force we have determined that no other cool things were added

[delicate delta]

have you guys searched anything at H4?

[zenith frigate]

everything was searched

[delicate delta]

even at that place?

[zenith frigate]

everything

[patent ginkgo]

H4 as a structure doesn’t really exist yet

[delicate delta]

i mean, theres a human base named H4 at that map

[fast forge]

I've been through the area multiple times so there are no buildings, but if you want to dig through the foliage for something less than a meter long, be my guest

[fast forge]

That's mistitled, that location is actually H6 on the grid

[patent ginkgo]

That was a mistake, it’s misnamed

[delicate delta]

oh alr

ty guys

[patent ginkgo]

No worries, happy to help

[lethal moat]

I still think it’s much less an exchange and more of a conditioning thing, where they learned how to take advantage of the replicator’s programming

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Just listened to the new podcast episode.

Its indeed unfortunate that the lore hunt wasnt actually lore, but I guess it was fun. I hoped it could be something that could get us thinking for atleast a week. But oh well.

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

I WANT BOTANY LORE

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[patent ginkgo]

LEMME FIND A SINGLE PLANT FOR A HUNT

[hexed forge]

I want some EIP lore, please and thank you.

[patent ginkgo]

I’m gonna have to wait a sec for it to load

[hexed forge]

I bet you have a list of everysingle plant on the map marked down as a coordinate.

[patent ginkgo]

Oh nvm

[hexed forge]

Its an AE SoonTM

[patent ginkgo]

lol

I need to redo my botanicus compendii soon

[hexed forge]

Good luck.

[patent ginkgo]

I’ll do it in a week, I’m away for a while

[hexed forge]

Tomorrow is the devblog, I hope we get the Vats concept in it.

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah same

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816655897446449202/1226906774506831993/slownet.gif

[patent ginkgo]

SLOW INTERNET

[acoustic osprey]

I guess it was lore and wasn't lore

We used the lore to help the community

I suppose

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[acoustic osprey]

To say it wasn't enjoyable though, would be a lie

[hexed forge]

Yeah it was def fun.

[hexed forge]

Now the allo fans are happy and they got an ego boost. I didnt want that

Example:

[acoustic osprey]

You win some, you lose some

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jumanji-welcome-to-the-jungle-kevin-hart-chill-out-dude-gif-17684390

[acoustic osprey]

No more shadow debate
More allo ego!!

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/you-are-the-real-heroes-recognition-appreciate-anthony-starr-the-boys-gif-15594353

[fast forge]

that day sucked for me

stupid day at work, spend hours scooping mouse poo, go on break to learn it was found without me

[hexed forge]

I should've just pretended that there was no camera at the Tcam location if I knew it was an allo.

Or just we could've kept it in this chat and NOT send it in isle discussion

[fast forge]

see how long they notice

[hexed forge]

Who the heck sent it in isle discussion.. let me check rq.

[fast forge]

tbf, there were a lot of non-lore regulars in here that day

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[fast forge]

or occasional lore people

[hexed forge]

Whoever did it gets sent to tartarus

@lethal moat RUMPLE

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

I'd like to see my lawyer

[lethal moat]

I believe in freedom of information

*Unless told to not to

[hexed forge]

You believed in good.. but that good caused hell.

[lethal moat]

It ended shadow discussion

What do we have to gain by holding this back?

[hexed forge]

But it gave the allo fan base an ego boost, now they are more hyped, toxic, etc etc than ever

[lethal moat]

They can be dealt with

[hexed forge]

Peace!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pathetic-nolan-grayson-omni-man-invincible-pity-gif-20908860

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-nolan-grayson-nolan-grayson-gif-4373362195223099243

[lethal moat]

Do it, send me

[hexed forge]

Sign this contract first

https://tenor.com/view/real-estate-impatient-gif-20983622

[lethal moat]

I signed a NDA

[hexed forge]

Not that one-

The thousand life contract

[lethal moat]

I'd sign it

[hexed forge]

Cool

Now there should be a white van arriving at your house at 2:35 AM

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

Imma look like this

[nimble fractal]

Me daily
Craving for lore

[lethal moat]

Mood

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bo-burnham-bo-burnham-inside-2021-gif-22033713

[tame hamlet]

Theory: Magna's are Versions of the Hyperendocrines From a Different Universe, a Rift Allowed the Magnatyrannus to Enter the Main Universe, Specifically on Legacy

[acoustic osprey]

Operation Inferno

[tame hamlet]

?

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas were essentially a stolen design from Phoenix International

[tame hamlet]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

basically PC(PCEs) Rex is the Magna Model

that Rex, big daddy, was also killed in that Operation

[tame hamlet]

So Was my Theory Impossible to begin with and I didn't know?

[acoustic osprey]

yes, sorry about that lol

albeit
this is all legacy lore and no longer canon
and Magnas have been scrapped as well

[tame hamlet]

Damn

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639138331027963918/1249902210951675915/miniminmi_snacki.gif

[kindred bobcat]

Magna are just refined H-strain

[kindred bobcat]

Weren’t they a development of H-strain?

[acoustic osprey]

not really

in terms of balance/idea
they were the "improved/sustainable Hyper"

[kindred bobcat]

Ah that’s where I got it from

[acoustic osprey]

aye

but it's a fair thought though

[tame hamlet]

Magnas aren't cannon anymore I'm pretty sure

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Nope, not Canon

[lethal moat]

Magnas are gone

Dev blog!

[pine owl]

pce is the underdog of dino games hope one day it gets the popularity it deserves

[hexed forge]

I thought it released when you said that..

[lethal moat]

Oof, my bad, sorry

[open pike]

Do devblog give anything about lore or do ya guys starve here? (Also hai cerato im your big fan from both servers :>)

[patent ginkgo]

It might give info, we’ll see

[open pike]

I'll be lurking here per say👀

[patent ginkgo]

We’re hoping for vat concepts

Hopefully more though

[hexed forge]

Sometimes they give lore info but sometimes not. But we might get a Vat concept.

[open pike]

Vat?