isle-lore-theories

[lethal moat]

More botany lore

[acoustic osprey]

botany IS the answer

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/im-watching-watch-you-eyes-on-you-kid-cute-gif-16282723

[acoustic osprey]

oh and I as well

which is quite interesting
behavioural science being an odd one out in the mythological/mythical-influenced graph

[lethal moat]

I’ll take your soul or your firstborn, just sign the dotted line

[lethal moat]

It being the only solid line to botany also intrigues me, makes me think that it’s deeply connected or added after the main system was in place

[fast forge]

okay but you guys saw that right?

[lethal moat]

I think you’re going crazy

[fast forge]

it's you then

[lethal moat]

I would never

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

don't do this to me o_0

[acoustic osprey]

DO IT!!!

[lethal moat]

Give into your anger, your hatred…

[fast forge]

I'm closer to the edge of sanity than I'd like to admit

Being gaslighted by Abraham and Isaac

[lethal moat]

I want to make serious theories about the botany and behavioral sciences connections, but all I ever thing if is a ton of dinosaurs high as hell off of plants lol

[fast forge]

we know they had a pharmaceuticals division right

[lethal moat]

Apollo Pharmaceuticals North

Not necessarily under AE, but under the general Apollo unbrella

[fast forge]

something something cashews and oranges

[lethal moat]

Kelp, giant crabs yada yada

I am curious about the giant crabs though, we know they were definitely accidental at first, but there seems to be more than that

[fast forge]

Why engineer the cashews and oranges?

[lethal moat]

Better control of what goes on on the island

[fast forge]

I guess cause they were already in that field too...

[lethal moat]

That’s my guess anyway

[fast forge]

More botanists than zoologists on staff (at least at first)

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as they come from botany
I wouldn't be surprised that a lot of their "older" staff are all from botany

[lethal moat]

Employee of the month and that department gets all the pizza parties

[acoustic osprey]

woohoo

[fast forge]

I did notice that one of the edible plants in game is not native to tropical areas

or at least I can't find anything online about a tropical or mediterranean species

The currant, Ribes

[lethal moat]

Something like this in the botany department when they actually have to deal with megafauna rather than plants: https://youtu.be/nIyWuYu-toc?si=QMuzg-r9qmaICTz_

[hexed forge]

The end

[lethal moat]

I’m not going to link the 2 minute full scene and the audio is cut off

[acoustic osprey]

me when the strain plant is planting...

[patent ginkgo]

plant...

[fast forge]

I was about to ping you lol

[lethal moat]

I honestly find the idea of something making me not myself waaaay scarier than any physical harm

[patent ginkgo]

i was summoned by botany lore talk

[fast forge]

Do you know any plants in-game that are not native to the tropics?

[patent ginkgo]

most of the diet ones

[fast forge]

I saw currants as an edible plant at one point

[fast forge]

Most?

[lethal moat]

Strain plants and botany department, what do you have for us?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
they seem to be in more temperate and colder environments, quite interesting

[patent ginkgo]

yeah a lot of them, and some are native to warm regions but not wet ones

[fast forge]

Just had me thinking they must be engineered for the climate then

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

[patent ginkgo]

ive been thinking this for a while

[fast forge]

Seeing one in-game that is native to my area was funny

[acoustic osprey]

i don't believe AE wouldn't engineer their plants

[patent ginkgo]

also potentially engineering them to be able to support larger food demands

[fast forge]

yes but only for specific goals - cost reduction and all that

[acoustic osprey]

likely cost
could also be for chemical reasons as well, with/for dino diets

[lethal moat]

They make more of themselves, the initial cost would almost certainly be worth the payout

[fast forge]

nah genetic engineering requires manpower and equipment and thousands of pairs of rubber gloves

[hexed forge]

Dondi has stated that we are getting more diet plants right? Or was that a different dev.

[lethal moat]

But million dollar assets don’t need to be manually fed

[fast forge]

Not saying they aren't doing a ton of genetic engineering, just saying it would likely always have a purpose

The easy guess on the purpose of the genetic engineering - climate change

[patent ginkgo]

Most likely

[fast forge]

Wasn't someone comparing the nutritional info from the dibble video with the real nutritional info?

[lethal moat]

Even thinking of security, it’s a lot less conspicuous to make a “perfect” plant diet than it is to manufacture and disperse dino kibble

[hexed forge]

Nono, the one I am talking about was recent. It was in a convo about Dibble having coconut on its diet.

I am looking for it right now.

[fast forge]

I'm not saying they wouldn't make plants, I'm saying the specific plants we saw - cashew and orange - are definitely genetically engineered, and I'm curious as to the purpose of that engineering, in this specific case

[lethal moat]

#isle-discussion message

[lethal moat]

Super healthy plant I would imagine, as well as to fit the environment

The diet plants I imagine being hinged more on dinosaurs and climate than on the ultimate “why dinosaurs”

[hexed forge]

Hm, was it that message? My brain does not remember very well, I guess it was likely that one.

[icy onyx]

Hello

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[fast forge]

yeah that's kinda where I'm landing too

[lethal moat]

Behold, troodon lore

[fast forge]

and just because the cashew is F5, doesn't mean this line of cashews is the first they've worked on - they might be building a supercashew

[hexed forge]

Nice

[lethal moat]

Thanos bean lore

[fast forge]

When I first brought this up I figured the plants would only have the one change, but that's a flawed assumption

[lethal moat]

You know what happens when we assume

[acoustic osprey]

i smack you

[lethal moat]

Not that

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hexed forge]

We overthink

[fast forge]

To summarize my realization: the start of the "F5" cashew generational line would be the start of the current experiment, but this germline of cashews might have multiple previous modifications by AE

[hexed forge]

And start making things up

[lethal moat]

That does happen but that’s not the answer I’m looking for

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

[fast forge]

OR

The plants are how the mutations get into the animals

[acoustic osprey]

Nutrient enrichment of the vitamin B complex
potentially particularly interesting.

Methodology
The genomic DNA of Anacardium occidentale was
edited in vitro using CRISPR/Cas9 and then
transformed into plant cells

APOLLO ENGINEERING Research under the
scientific direction of #########.

[fast forge]

Just the delivery mechanism

[lethal moat]

I doubt it, I think it’s just a very adaptable series of animals

[fast forge]

yes so this particular study they saw heightened Vit B levels

[fast forge]

That's still my main theory

I have wondered if Augustus' climbing ability is just a mutation that they made baseline

[acoustic osprey]

note that it was behavioural though
than physical

[fast forge]

yeah mutations can affect behavior

"Intraspecific Aggression" for example

[lethal moat]

So is changing your lifestyle to be coastal

[acoustic osprey]

i'm only noting though
not saying mutations can't be behavioural

it's often missed that pre-existing Herreras could potentially climb
they just behaviourally never did such

[fast forge]

true, but the mutation is named after a physical feature - the saltwater-filtering kidneys of oceanic animals

[acoustic osprey]

till such emergent anomalous behaviour of AUGUSTUS grew/appeared

[lethal moat]

Correct, so distinguishing new behavior from new traits that allow new behaviors could be a funky line if we aren’t careful

[fast forge]

well the brain is an organ too, yada yada yada

[lethal moat]

We have crossed over to semantics

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
behaviour can affect the physical
and vice versa

[lethal moat]

Let the ship of Theseus argument begin and slowly transfer over to EIP discussion

[fast forge]

The human mind is such an anomalous thing - some bizarre combination of the physical, electrical, and chemical

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though
I don't see there, in-game, existing any behavioural mutations existing

besides very simple ones like "group amount" - which is more social than behavioural though

because, ultimately, behaviour comes from the player

[lethal moat]

Right

[acoustic osprey]

and anything to change "player behaviour" would come from something physical or social
through a mutation

[fast forge]

well within the confines of the game
you could define behavior to include eating animations, and that's mostly out of the hands of the player
(semantics again)

[lethal moat]

Social actions are all about behavior tbf

[acoustic osprey]

eating animations of what though?

[fast forge]

grass

idk, anything

[acoustic osprey]

that would be more physical though?
Unless you mean, something akin to Augustus (physically capable, but never grew to do it till Augustus), with being able to eat grass as a herbivore.

[acoustic osprey]

behavioural describes the mind, the behaviour, of the being/creature

social refers to the communal aspect of interaction within

it's not direct behavioural
but like physical, it's very related

[lethal moat]

Yeah, and accepting a larger than normal number of group members is also an individual act

[acoustic osprey]

that would still be social

because it's not about the one mind
it's about everything accepting such

[fast forge]

And then I was being cheeky and pointed out that some things that are regarded as behavior in real life - the act of eating food - are pre-programmed in this game
I was just being a dork

[lethal moat]

Only applies to the leader, and it’s forced on the other group members though

[acoustic osprey]

that still runs through socially though

especially in-game
everything would need to have this mutation to actually make it work

[fast forge]

I missed this argument because I was on my own tangent, but now that I've caught up

Behavior and animal sociality are intrinsically connected

[acoustic osprey]

unless you bring up "Alphas"
Which I guess could make it work

but that's still a social aspect
accepting an alpha, to which can affect your social perks/mutations

[acoustic osprey]

but the same goes through with the physical as well

[fast forge]

ughghghhg I hate that term as it's developed in society

[acoustic osprey]

everything aspect of the living is affected by it's living attributes

[lethal moat]

Same, group leader is much more comfortable lol

[fast forge]

yes but the venn diagram of behavior and sociality are closer, that's all

[acoustic osprey]

I would say it's more balanced

but I can see how people can see so

[fast forge]

The idea that wolf packs have alphas is from an old flawed scientific study that the author has since retracted for shoddy science
I want that term to die

[acoustic osprey]

but i am the alpha

https://tenor.com/view/tom-mc-nair-as-a-werewolf-being-human-gif-18361415

[lethal moat]

Wasn’t it on captive wolves in an unfamiliar environment?

[fast forge]

It also has unsavory ties to Social Darwinism, something else I hate as someone with a background in evolutionary study

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

yeah something like that, bad science

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, some aspects are true*
but yes, social darwinism is pretty cringe

[fast forge]

Human societies don't work like evolutionary models, plain and simple

[lethal moat]

Wonder if AE made similar mistakes and if so how many times?

[acoustic osprey]

RIGHT NOW

[lethal moat]

The docktahs act different from the jungle omnis

[lethal moat]

Human societies don’t work like other human societies lol

[fast forge]

Usually bad science kinda just makes failed ideas, or holds back progress. It's the successes that make the crazy stuff

[lethal moat]

I don’t imagine AE’s path to abandoning the island was smooth, though if it was intentionally abandoned it could have been

[fast forge]

Well, some things that can cause accidents in scientific settings are overconfidence, not following procedure, lack of communication, and poor safety maintenance (fire drills, for example)

[lethal moat]

Right, I’d like AE employees to go “I didn’t know they could do THAT.” in an emergency situation

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-camouflage-dinosaur-it-can-camouflage-trending-gif-19100968

[fast forge]

"Nearly 70 per cent of the known causes were due to procedural errors that can be addressed."

[lethal moat]

Yeah, Murphy’s law, anything that can go wrong will go wrong sort of thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1246268829483532319/image.png?ex=66699d8b&is=66684c0b&hm=4c282da1f5551743ad1f85b42f4ee4a0a6bf902eb5e8b235228803c20d630448&

[fast forge]

As a side note, I saw my first vivisection the other day

[lethal moat]

Dave 7.45 died again yesterday and will now be getting body armor in the breakroom

[acoustic osprey]

yum

what animal?

[fast forge]

mouse

it was under heavy anesthesia and was ethically euthanized

[acoustic osprey]

specifics or was it just general research?

[fast forge]

I can't talk about it
Or rather, I don't want to explore the limits of what I can talk about

[lethal moat]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/639138331027963918/1249902210951675915/miniminmi_snacki.gif

[fast forge]

But yeah, it was kinda messed up, tbh

[icy onyx]

Cool

[fast forge]

Later that day it reminded me of that one art of the neuro spino

[acoustic osprey]

ahh that one

[lethal moat]

Vivisections fall very far into the moral grey area

[fast forge]

It is certainly not an action undertaken lightly

[lethal moat]

Extraordinarily useful, but very icky to think of, heavy anesthesia takes away a lot of that issue imo

[fast forge]

I'll admit, it affected me more than I expected

[lethal moat]

If it’s life is already forfeited, I don’t mind the pursuit of knowledge

[fast forge]

In this particular case the end goal is a cure for a disease in humans

[lethal moat]

Acceptable then

[fast forge]

But uhh stepping away from that disturbing memory, the neuro spino art...

[lethal moat]

You want the vivisection one or a different one, I could find it pretty quickly

[fast forge]

vivisection, yeah

[lethal moat]

And this one for funzies, keeping in mind it’s all unofficial

[acoustic osprey]

still cool though

[lethal moat]

Those claws are very thin, reminds me more of knives than actual claws

[fast forge]

what is the guy in the bottom left carrying? just a barrel?

[acoustic osprey]

looks like a barrel of sorts

or a cyclical tub/bucket

[lethal moat]

Mhm, I’d guess some sort of preservative inside

A few things I hadn’t noticed but do now

#1 they removed the foot and did a cross section of the lower leg

[fast forge]

I had wondered about the foot

[lethal moat]

#2 that tail is in a very weird position, sort if draped over the edge, which could cause problems for movement, especially if rigor mortis is already set in

[fast forge]

the tail does seem contorted

I've kinda decided that was the artist making the animal more squishy and flexible because it's neuro

[lethal moat]

Tapwing describes a jellyfish like neuro, so I imagine it was having fun with the story

Good story though

[fast forge]

ye

[lethal moat]

Neuro stuff is fun because it’s almost all conjecture at this point

90% based off of legacy, 10% echidna conversation

[rose crow]

Where is GW Area F5 located

[hexed forge]

The ocean

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/four-seasons-orlando-conscious-baby-baby-tiktok-tiktok-baby-gif-12888121251413983730

ask Rump
he knows the answer but wont tell us

[hexed forge]

Ingame, its the ocean, the scene in the video however, is northeast of riverdelta.

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Abraham??

https://tenor.com/view/interesting-batman-very-interesting-thinking-gif-16421084

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Oh that Abraham

[lethal moat]

Genisis 22

[rose crow]

Why is the location on land then?

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know the meaning yet

[lethal moat]

One of life’s greatest mysteries

[acoustic osprey]

we will know soon
trust me

we have gone through almost every possibility

we have no idea yet (besides Rump)

[hexed forge]

Abraham.

Oh yeah I wonder if this "object" has anything to do with F5

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-idk-whatever-shrug-gif-12483758

potentially

[lethal moat]

Now I’m remembering all of my childhood songs about abraham lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

I bet I can reflavor it to fit the replicator

[hexed forge]

If it has something to do with F5,

The object could possibly be located in the northwestern region of the map.

[lethal moat]

My money is on the cubes

[acoustic osprey]

has to be obvious though

so if it is an object
would have to be large (rather than abundant in nature)

[lethal moat]

Or bright or loud

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[hexed forge]

But how can an object be as large as a structure-

Rumple just brought up a good point actually...

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
it cant be a location

So nothing like a port or a radiotower
but it could be a large object of sorts
like a large box

the thing is
it has to contain lore of some sorts

[fast forge]

the lore object might just be an object in a new location

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[fast forge]

only the lore part needs to be an object

[hexed forge]

This could count as an object.

And it could be bright, seen from the coast.

But it has to contain lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

We’ll see when we get it

[hexed forge]

New location potentially being docks

[fast forge]

it will be fun

[acoustic osprey]

i swear if you know what it is rump

[lethal moat]

I haven’t gotten anything that recently lol

[hexed forge]

He probably does

[acoustic osprey]

neither

[lethal moat]

Pick one:
-Plead the fifth
-I’m innocent your honor

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-scott-mexican-standoff-the-office-finger-guns-thumbs-up-gif-11627031

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-dwight-schrute-rainn-wilson-older-wiser-gif-25505037

[hexed forge]

Plead the fifth

[lethal moat]

I’d like to see my lawyer

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh

[hexed forge]

The Lawyers are all busy, represent yourself.

[lethal moat]

Bet, I can logical fallacy my way out if this

Your mother

https://tenor.com/view/bye-goodbye-good-frog-disappear-gif-21571750

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gavel-case-dismissed-simpsons-gif-11209658

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gif-gif-19492807

[hexed forge]

uh oh

LORE DROPPING

[lethal moat]

Not for sure

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spartans-gif-27159998

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey You will be sacrificed to tartarus if your announcement is wrong.

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

I hope not
The time to hunt is soon

[hexed forge]

Mhm, I got my herrera ready. And my PT

Its time.

[pseudo fable]

There are only four people on the team that know what it contributes to. None of them have the full picture. There is no "Someone knows."

[lethal moat]

HA

My lawyer came through, thank you Dondi

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-funny-gif-21548565

[acoustic osprey]

rah!!

[hexed forge]

By any chance is he covering for you?

[lethal moat]

No

[hexed forge]

(Joking btw)

[acoustic osprey]

lol

VC here or lorecord?

[lethal moat]

I don’t think he would, more fun if he leaves it ambiguous

[hexed forge]

Anyways, I wonder if this is THE lore drop, or its just a random bug fix patch.

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, only one way to find out

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Whereever you want

[acoustic osprey]

let's go lorecord

[hexed forge]

Patch notes?

Raptor pin nice

Imagine this patch isnt even the lore one

[acoustic osprey]

if not
it might be the next! The fun of the hunt

[crystal cairn]

my hunt begins (again)

[acoustic osprey]

come join VC if you want, on lorecord

don't need a mic!

[crystal cairn]

oh I already know what I am doing, but will report regardless

parked in 2 different human bases

reporting for duty!

[acoustic osprey]

good luck soldier

[hexed forge]

I dont think its this patch-

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[carmine marsh]

have you checked the dock location yet?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[carmine marsh]

sadge

[hexed forge]

Dondi is just watching us suffer trying to find it, knowing that its not this patch(perhaps)

[crystal cairn]

so far the only thing strange to happen to me was an adult herrera dropped dead next to me in a human base

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[acoustic osprey]

that was me
I died from hunger

[hexed forge]

[crystal cairn]

server?

[acoustic osprey]

na west

[crystal cairn]

ah yes then LOL I THOUGHT MAYBE YOU GOT SHOT

[acoustic osprey]

lol

me jawbone is gone

[crystal cairn]

wow I almost met THEE lightclaw organically in game!!

[acoustic osprey]

NOOO

[crystal cairn]

should I... consume

for the lore ofc..

[fast forge]

TAKE HIS LORE FOR YOUR OWN

[acoustic osprey]

NO!!!

[crystal cairn]

for the lore friend, for the lore

taking the heart of lightclaw to the top of radio tower, surely this is the way

[hexed forge]

So Don either overestimated our searching skills, or its not this patch.

[crystal cairn]

I am ready to receive the ancient knowledge

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/four-seasons-orlando-conscious-baby-baby-tiktok-tiktok-baby-gif-12888121251413983730

[hexed forge]

Less screenshots more searching!

[acoustic osprey]

please 🙏

[hexed forge]

Dondi will likely not even tell us

[acoustic osprey]

he did before!

[zenith frigate]

has their always been a flickering light at the entrance to big dome

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[zenith frigate]

i dont remember this but maybe im going insane

[hexed forge]

We are literally all going insane in VC rn.

Looking for this object... that might not even exist yet..

[zenith frigate]

i dont even do lore stuff and even im looking

[hexed forge]

I have came to the conclusion of

No lore this patch, wait for the next.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bald-gif-9888685932430250692

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/we-lost-squirtle-squad-pokemon-buwu-gif-25481906

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-mandalorian-stormtrooper-standing-by-stand-by-gif-15911372

[acoustic osprey]

The Hunt continues

in the next HT update then

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[fast forge]

What if it was in this update, but Don just massively overestimated us

"they couldn't be that dumb"

[lethal moat]

We're trying nesting in I12

[hexed forge]

Ahaha

Ha

Ha....

[hexed forge]

Ping me if anything happens please

[acoustic osprey]

do wanna be a hypsi baby?

[mental thicket]

Is matriarch a new strain?

[lethal moat]

Matriarch is it's own creature made as a result of tissoplastic strain research

[mental thicket]

Okay cuase im filing strains in my discord then run into these

and in like WHAT?!?

sad tapwing hasnt made a hyper art for carno

i did quezt and dilo that have all 3 then hit carno. :_(

[lethal moat]

That's unofficial

[lethal moat]

So's this

[mental thicket]

yeah im still making a channel for it, its based off the isle done by the isle number one artist, (sorry other artist i shall have 10 lashes)

[acoustic osprey]

Don
if you enter this chat at all

are you able to relieve our suffering?

[crystal cairn]

inb4 don dilosip

[acoustic osprey]

mmm
next horde test update we shall wait it is then

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[pseudo fable]

I have said it would be obvious. The fact you're looking this hard means it's not there. No, you all are not that dumb.

I've said I will not be disclosing when it's there. It simply will be.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-eyebrow-god-of-war-gif-27143599

[lethal moat]

We did some hypsi nesting as well, but we reached a pretty definitive assumption about halfway through and went to go test other stuff

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

then it shall be soon! Very well

[lethal moat]

Soon TM

[acoustic osprey]

enjoyed playing today though

[lethal moat]

Yeah, haven't done nesting in a long while

[acoustic osprey]

we're terrible parents

lol

[lethal moat]

You're a terrible parent, Shadow died through no fault of my own

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kingpin-kingpin-clicking-pen-clicking-pen-spider-verse-into-the-spider-verse-gif-5180708998338482135

it was the damn migration zone!!

[crystal cairn]

you were delicious

[lethal moat]

That's what they all say

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

thank you for taking my heart

[lethal moat]

Wonder to what extent AE uses drones

[crystal cairn]

your sacrifice was in vain

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

I wanted an in-universe *drone camera that administrators could use. There's no practical use for it other than lore nerd usage, though. It'd never be used when sniping the hackers and I feel like if it were ever used by myself when spectating something interesting, everyone would just stare back at the camera. 😅

[acoustic osprey]

it'd be pretty amusing lol, for casual players

[lethal moat]

That'd be funny, everybody stops the interesting thing to figure out the buzzing noise

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-claw-woody-buzz-lightyear-tom-hanks-tim-allen-gif-27247227

i think a few games have something like that
I know PoT had/has a bird one. Which is interesting

[crystal cairn]

a drone would be fitting though tbh

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[lethal moat]

On a dinosaur island, all I can imagine it's good for is remote viewing and callouts

[acoustic osprey]

a little bundle of hum

[crystal cairn]

until the pteros get it...

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much
that and trailcams

i imagine monitor cams are bit 50/50
seeing as it's just general int/ext surveillance of the site
rather than thoughtful in-nature placements that is the TCAMs

[lethal moat]

I think of this every time I see the drone quetz lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKnAWcWnJJc

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[icy niche]

Question I don’t have any of the sounds recorded but

What are the ambient Dino sounds that play randomly while playing

It will be out of nowhere
I be just strolling then BOOM high pitch yell

Is there such thing as ambient Dino sounds

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[icy niche]

Do they even mean anything?

[acoustic osprey]

not really, lol

[icy niche]

How many of the computers in the human buildings are on?

[acoustic osprey]

should be none?

[icy niche]

You sure?

[acoustic osprey]

should be

in terms of the screen being on

[icy niche]

I forgot where I was but me and a buddy saw one on yesterday

[acoustic osprey]

the actual screen though?

[icy niche]

I have a screenshot I’ll post it when I get home from work today

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

I was not awake.

[acoustic osprey]

it's ok, i forgive you

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

Don basically confirmed wasn't in this patch

[hexed forge]

Oof, waiting for the next one then

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

The Hunt shall continue (soon)

i wonder if it'll be this week or next

[hexed forge]

I believe next week

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[hexed forge]

Dondi is going to delay it all the way to the day of your vacation

[acoustic osprey]

Next month

[silent portal]

Are Neuro, Thisso and magna still canon? I thought i heard only Hypoenderchin remains

[acoustic osprey]

Magna no longer exists

[hexed forge]

But tisso and neuro are Canon

[silent portal]

Do you know if that goes for the reaper, mastermind and the colossus or is their strains that remain?

[hexed forge]

The trinity is still Canon too yes

[acoustic osprey]

(the three of them)

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[silent portal]

YESSS, i might be behind on canon but I've sort of imagined them as results of humans being used with the strains but the strains being obtained from that sacrificial temple

[icy niche]

Upon further review it has been found that the computer was not on a green light was shining on it

I swear Iam not a schizophrenic

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fast forge]

Glad to know I'm not as stupid as I'd feared

[acoustic osprey]

we are all very stupid

and sillybillies, especially

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/killinger-venture-venture-bros-your-powers-dont-work-gif-9849487

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pointing-not-scientifically-possible-gif-14882344

[lethal moat]

Lets talk about AE and money

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/money-mr-krabs-gif-18326632

[lethal moat]

The islands are expensive, they must expect at least to get a return on that initial investment

[young viper]

what about this drone

[patent ginkgo]

I have a feeling no that the drone quetz was what he was referring to

[lethal moat]

What if it’s not a drone

[young viper]

what if i am a drone

[lethal moat]

What if it’s still alive

[young viper]

just saw the concept art, it says it is a cyborg

[lethal moat]

That’s unofficial

[young viper]

what part?

[lethal moat]

That concept, it’s unofficial

[young viper]

oh yeah ik

[young viper]

They are inside the aviary/dome

I just realized this

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fast forge]

this one is official right?

[young viper]

I was going to say that those trees inside the dome are Redwoods, but I saw the small tree on the side...

[lethal moat]

Yes

[lethal moat]

Probably a normal dome based on the curved ceiling

[young viper]

yea not the big one

[fast forge]

yeah those aren't redwoods

[young viper]

Please Dondi, if you are going to add Redwoods to the giant dome, add a Minmi migration zone there.
🙏

[young viper]

I wonder if that landing pad is official, and if so, why would there be something like a helipad in the dome

[lethal moat]

Might not be for helicopters, could be specifically for the quetz or could just be safety rails

[fast forge]

The tops of the domes/perimeter look like they could open

[lethal moat]

They lock down a dome except for the top and a herrera sneaks in and kills everyone

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-run-away-runaway-break-gif-20690048

when quetz flies into the dome

[lethal moat]

honk

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-dimorphodon-dinosaur-flying-gif-17288090

[remote dew]

hey guys jack8_sam here with another theory, so what if the dinosaurs were actually from tekken 8. alr guys ill be back next month with a new theory

[vast vector]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-applause-round-of-standing-gif-20790999

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meonly-gif-19710542

[swift echo]

when n spino

[lethal moat]

Check rule 10

[swift echo]

no

[fast forge]

check back next week

[lethal moat]

Kind if crazy how neuro spino and echidna are all we know of neuros

Or rather, used to know

[lethal moat]

I’m extremely interested to know exactly how gen 1 learned to sacrifice things, unless they were told to, in which I’m curious who did that if it wasn’t the replicator

[fossil nebula]

I think it would be voices in their head by replicator somehow if anything

[lethal moat]

In that situation, would it really be in it’s head, or would it be some other communication, and how would gen 1 understand communication?

[fossil nebula]

Replicator could send info in their language if they even have one, other then that it would have to be images of what to do or something similar if replicator is trying to relay actual information or ordering message

[lethal moat]

How would the replicator do that or know to do that, assuming gen 1 has a language

[fossil nebula]

IF they have no language, its almost mind control territory or something.

[fossil nebula]

didnt replicator make the gen 1s?

[lethal moat]

Or gen 1 learns

[lethal moat]

Replicator also made dinosaurs

[fossil nebula]

Yeah i think they could either be directly controlling gen 1s lore wise, or replicator knows their language by studying them over time

[lethal moat]

I don’t think so

I think gen 1 learned, if I do this, I get benefits, and replicator just exists as the reward giver

And original creator

[fossil nebula]

Ah as like a god like figure, I see, true

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[fossil nebula]

Well if thats not true I feel my comments could be accurate as hell

only if

[fast forge]

a little more primal than most religion

[lethal moat]

Right

Gen 1 aren’t super intelligent, maybe primate level is what we tend to assume, and I think the benefit giver and creator idea works better

[fossil nebula]

Well yeash thats what i was kinda refeering too, like theres even mythical gods and even native americans had "gods"

[fast forge]

nowhere near that level

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fossil nebula]

Thats what I think gen 1s would do sacrifices for, just my opinnion, not only rewards and stuff

[fast forge]

and yes, native people had many deities across the many cultures in north america

[fossil nebula]

cuz original creator idea and such, replicator kinda acutally like a god to them

[lethal moat]

God seems a bit extreme

[fast forge]

god is too complex of an idea, I think

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

Moths follow the follow the moon, but they don't worship it

[lethal moat]

I think gen 1 acts primarily out of self interest, as most things do

[fossil nebula]

Eh its just a mix of both things, savage things as gen 1s, but they do sacrifices and use tools on occasion

somethings up all im sayin

[lethal moat]

Tools are kind of up in the air rn

[fossil nebula]

Yeah thats what I figured

cuz their hand and arm shape, and sheer size so they might not need tools

[lethal moat]

Don’t expect gen 1 to be merciful, if you don’t die immediately, you’re being kept for a better time to die

#isle-discussion message

Anyway, ai takeover theories, either reject ai now and suffer later or help the problem come to fruition, forget what name this one has been given but I support the machine overlords

[lethal moat]

But I believe the replicator is a complex tool, rather than a being

[acoustic osprey]

basically all "tribal / early feudal" peoples had some sort of (loosely to strongly) pagan-linked religion / mythology

[acoustic osprey]

i think you can definitely look at it this way:

What if you knew that whoever or whatever made you and your people actually properly existed
Not in the spiritual "I can feel their presence" - not through a saint or prophet, not through the environment or the "feels", but through actual interaction.
yes
Gen1s likely, on a whole, probably don't have a very advanced cognitive function akin to "normal" humans
but it's basically like owning an animal
It knows you exist and it relies on you. So it's lifestyle and how it'll interact with the world will be, forever, changed
sure - potentially the Replicator probably doesn't spoon feed Gen1s
however
we know AE, at least, moderates and keeps up things within the island(s)
looking at how enclosures are confirmed now
it may very be that Gen1s, especially, may have some sort of larger contact with AE and (potentially) The Replicator
than a random native "tribal person" who has never interacted with the outside world
and such effect on the lifestyle and environment for Gen1s will definitely change their ways of interacting with "those from above" - like through "rough tribal/very archaic and primal" sacrifices

^this is how I view this subject

[fossil nebula]

holy

[acoustic osprey]

well, I imagine some aspects of Gen1s might seem holy- to an extent

the actual aspect of them doing sacrifices might mean that such ritual is a holy ritual

whether you take it in the literal "religious" sense
or the fact that such ritual enacts a "higher" aspect of connection to whomever the Gen1s sacrifice to (The Replicator)

technically
i guess, that's the same thing. Just explained further.

[acoustic osprey]

this noting though
you don't need super high cognitive function to place this ritual as "holy"

as, by default, Gen1s doing the ritual for The Replicator makes it holy

[fossil nebula]

When I said holy, it was short for holy hell or oh sheet, cuz thats kinda crazy and explains alot

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-cat-gif-25910152

[lethal moat]

I think it’ll look religious from the outside, but isn’t particularly religious one you’re in gen 1’s shoes

Sort of like how we’re arguing now lol

Better off asking here: https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/543084446853890049

[subtle sluice]

off just realized wrong chat thank u!

[lethal moat]

👍

[strange rapids]

Been busy the last few weeks, anyone got a summary

[meager junco]

There’s a few documents in the channels pinned messages , some are more legacy and evrima lore while one is more just evrima lore

[lethal moat]

Not a ton in the last few weeks since the dibble video, but there’s supposed to be something nice before hordetest is finished that’ll have lore

[fast forge]

my guy it's been months since the dibble vid

[lethal moat]

Which is why I’m excited for the lore drop

[lethal moat]

Two and a half months

[fast forge]

yeahhhh

2.5 months of shadow talk

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/that70s-show-drinking-pour-liquor-gif-14711464

[fast forge]

the funniest part of it all, to me, is that we literally have an emote for a rex shadow

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

I like to think the shadow in the video was just a nod to this emote

[lethal moat]

I don’t really care what the shadow is, I just want people to stop caring about it lol

[fast forge]

it's annoying, especially when people drop into chat and are like "I saw a youtube video saying it was allo..."

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

I'm just gonna start responding with

[lethal moat]

I usually respond with, make your own assumptions

[fast forge]

It's still not as bad as "I saw a youtube video about the camera changes"

... those were some dark times

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

I'm seeing the same thing with people's reactions to mutations, sparring, and dibble itself. Feels like some youtubers will just drum up controversy about a mechanic that is in the earliest stages of testing just for views, and it strikes me as really disingenuous

[lethal moat]

Controversy doin numbers

[sacred gale]

whats the replicator again?

[coral nova]

Is there any video / document that compiles all known lore for the isle ?

[fast forge]

@lethal moat

[lethal moat]

We’ve got this, Lightclaw has some videos on Youtube, there’s a podcast, and a lore server: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[coral nova]

You legend

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

I look at it more like this
Religion is faith-based - meaning it's based on trust and hope

I don't see Gen1s ritual aspect as particularly straightforwardly religious
especially if you take the "look inside" route
from the outside? Sure, it might.

But we still have to note
Gen1s are aware of their creator(s)

[lethal moat]

It’s an exchange

[acoustic osprey]

unlike actual religions
Gen1s "religion" is less a religion
but more so a cultural practise

a ritual

Is there an aspect of faith and/or reliance with such sacrificing? Sure

but at least you know the 'higher order' actually exists

#isle-lore-theories message
but that just links back to this anyways

[lethal moat]

So it’s hierarchy then

[acoustic osprey]

to an extent, more or less

but definitely a very feudal hierarchy

[fast forge]

Well the question of gods has always been an open one in our societies
But the idea of a real, physical, tangible "god" is really intriguing

Makes me think of the weirwoods

[acoustic osprey]

quite so
which is what it seems like Don might be playing with the relation between Gen1s and The Replicator (and even AE)

in which i hope he does, to any sort of extent if possible

[lethal moat]

What is the accurate name for a group of gen 1s? I think a bureaucracy of gen 1 could be a fun title

[acoustic osprey]

what intrigues me the most is that a lot of "gods amongst men" sort of games is that they never try to answer/question such idea

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/765677729709293579/796828186565541898/3dgifmaker05846.gif

[acoustic osprey]

depends
within Gen1s? I think they might be more or less akin to modern apes or early "tribal peoples" pre-feudalism
but their relation with AE and Replicator? Bureaucracy might be close

[hexed forge]

Just coming in here to tell you that Filipe said that he is trying to push out a patch for tmr,

This patch likely doesnt include the lore stuff but there is a chance I guess.

Or maybe today? Depending on your timezone ig.

[fast forge]

yeah it sounded more like bug fix and tuning stuff

[acoustic osprey]

Don said he won't tell us
so we have to check anyways! 😎

if you guys don't wanna
i'll still go and check around for the funnsies

[fast forge]

I'm already halfway falling asleep so it's not me

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-sir-salute-minions-gif-902437931563525792

I leave school tmr early so I will have plenty of time, tomorrow is also when school ends so I will be free until July 🫡

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/alastor-alastor-hazbin-hotel-hazbin-hotel-vivziepop-a24-gif-14790087281859187996

[acoustic osprey]

what time is it for you Cerato?

[hexed forge]

Right now? 11 PM

Or in other terms, 23:00 (I think)

[acoustic osprey]

ah yes

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

8pm here, but I get up for work at 5am

[hexed forge]

I wake up at 6

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1248773275631358115/image0.jpg?ex=666ccb3d&is=666b79bd&hm=0d95e968406a81d6b347692a7fcc6c88b88042480eee9565bf1ad01189c0f3ab&

[acoustic osprey]

midday here
so I should be fine

[hexed forge]

Opposite side of the world

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

think i'll grow a galli for it

[hexed forge]

I have an adult ptera on NA2 I think

[fast forge]

only like 4th patch this month

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Could also depend on the type of gen 1

[hexed forge]

There needs to be a video version of this meme, hmmm, I think I just gave myself a task.

[fast forge]

what if gen 1 have certain morphs if they grow in certain areas

Gen 1 raised in GUTS are eyeless because of the dark

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, i imagine it's different depending on the cognitive function of the type of Gen1

but i don't imagine them being too complicated

I do wonder if Gen1s will stay true to their cannibal title

but in the regard that they dislike other "versions" of their kind

[fast forge]

Will Gen 1 grow? Do we get to see them as cute bebes?

[acoustic osprey]

i don't think we've ever gotten an actual answer, honestly

[lethal moat]

I doubt it

[acoustic osprey]

i feel like they would be better as growing creatures

[fast forge]

yeah like gen 2

[acoustic osprey]

but being "humanoid" who knows

[lethal moat]

I feel gen 1 will grow as in evolving due to them gifting the replicator death

[acoustic osprey]

if they can make a compelling gameplay loop for Gen1s
i'd be down for it

i'd say Gen1s are the most uniquely different faction out of them all

[fast forge]

they could maybe make structures right?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

Aye
we know they can build stuff

[lethal moat]

Given the potential for variety I would say so

[acoustic osprey]

Don told us they could build at top of Human structures as well

but the degree of their buildings? Who knows

[hexed forge]

Build a boat

[lethal moat]

He said they might

[acoustic osprey]

I guess so

[lethal moat]

I think gen 1 as a choose your own story kind of thing would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-were-in-this-together-work-together-lets-be-friends-apes-together-strong-gif-1724258143197096891

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-planet-of-the-apes-bad-apes-uh-oh-oops-gif-19568112

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfY3apD1PKM This is how I imagine that meme into clip form

[lethal moat]

I’ll watch that in a few minutes

That’s neat

I don’t disagree

[lethal moat]

I’ve come up with a few names for groups of gen 1:
A bureaucracy
A club
A troop

[acoustic osprey]

i like em

also
i think I found the partial inspiration for the computer boot up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEchUhAOfe4

https://gyazo.com/d17b2614f955b83edc00755e210f9f25

[lethal moat]

Oh nice

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
that's basically the standard bootup for some old PCs

but
i never really looked into it until now

cool to see the irl inspiration though

https://youtu.be/SUvlWt9WTKA

[lethal moat]

Back in my IT class, there were some really interesting old computers

Their fans struggled quite a bit when they were booted up lol

[acoustic osprey]

like starting cold starting a car lol

[lethal moat]

I think it’d be funny for at least one entry to have constant fan static in the background

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

(you hear the slight mumbling of the USER saying something along the lines of "man i really need to buy a new fan for her")

[lethal moat]

“Piece of junk”

[acoustic osprey]

[ivory hearth]

how do you get the 4th mutation slot?

[acoustic osprey]

when elders arrive

[ivory hearth]

ah alright, thanks

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[tribal bobcat]

It's fat

[acoustic osprey]

doing a CRT try! Using "Pre-Current UI"

basically an older version of the UI we have currently from the Augustus video

[brazen saffron]

do we know where the ai that is “cloning” the dinosaurs could it be underneath the map?

[acoustic osprey]

Don has told us art is coming, to some extent
but we don't know where The Replicator... where she could be...

https://gyazo.com/d0783a8877f31dd75b080fc85eef5c77

[brazen saffron]

so it’s not on the game islands?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[brazen saffron]

so it could be on a near island or under the island so it could watch us more easily could the replicator be replicating people? for further examination to termitate the human race?

[strange shell]

The replicator is not on the island because it's "physical form" as Don likes to say, is an alien mothership

[fast forge]

Update today maybe

Filipe said something about one coming soon

Sounded like mostly bug fixes so we may not get the lore with this one

[meager junco]

Lore

[lethal moat]

It could technically be everywhere

[lethal moat]

As an AI, it can be anywhere there’s a processor

[hexed forge]

But the physical form itself isnt ingame

[lethal moat]

At least not that we’ll see (probably)

[fast forge]

Didn't Don say we won't see a physical version of the replicator in-game?

[lethal moat]

Yes, but I’m holding out for a concept art one day #isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

Would art of the replicator even look very impressive? I imagine it would just be a big 3D printer with maybe vats and some robotic arms to transfer its creations

[lethal moat]

Who knows, I much prefer to think of it as a digital being that as a physical one because it lends itself to more fun opportunities

[acoustic osprey]

seems like Filipe is about to drop a hotfix in announcements

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

All right
time to hunt

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-care-peaceful-laid-gif-22992945

[acoustic osprey]

wanna join VC on lorecord?

[meager junco]

Domes are fixed

[lethal moat]

Don't look too hard, check the bases, the watering hole, and the cubes

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[fast forge]

the cubes without textures?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Anything interesting? Sadly at a friend's house rn

Well, not sadly.

[acoustic osprey]

nothing yet

[hexed forge]

Alright, tell me if there is anything interesting

[lethal moat]

Just going to check the bases and domes real quick then we'll probably call it for looking and just play

[lethal moat]

Ladies and gentlemen, we found it ||Joke||

Found writing I hadn't noticed before

[acoustic osprey]

were in there last hotfix
unsure if it's marketplace or not

[hexed forge]

Lore

[hexed forge]

I think its a marketplace asset yes

[lethal moat]

Nothin new, better luck next time

[acoustic osprey]

Lore opinions

[fast forge]

That's really cool

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

You made that, yes? How long you been cooking that up?

[acoustic osprey]

Last night and after hotfix dropped

[acoustic osprey]

And thanks!!

[hybrid wagon]

I’ve seen it before been there last few patches

[hybrid wagon]

This fr had me tho

[hybrid wagon]

Caduceus is a good name choice

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

find the second hermes reference!!!

[pseudo fable]

Your CADUCEUS screen feels really out of place. You have drop shadows and pretty high definition on both the shadows and the differing font. I'd drop the resolution if it's something you keep, otherwise it's kind of like flashing PS2 graphics in a PS1 game for a moment. Good formatting and such. 👀

But if you want a canon boot screen, you can just steal the new UI when it comes.

[lethal moat]

New UI has me excited, will it be similar to what we see in the videos?

[fast forge]

new UI will be a boot screen?

[hexed forge]

Yes.

[hexed forge]

Ah, new UI in the works

[hexed forge]

What did you use to make this? What software basically

Also idk how I feel about this part, seems a bit out of place for me.

Buts its just 1 opinion

[lethal moat]

UI update could be the lore thing

[hexed forge]

Its not an object tho

[lethal moat]

Well you see

I’m a little bit stupid

[hexed forge]

And if its new UI we would find it in seconds, not minutes

[lethal moat]

Lol yeah

[acoustic osprey]

DaVinci Resolve and Photoshop

it was mostly DaVinci Resolve
but the actual "computer" part was done modularly through Photoshop

Like here

and put it together when see fit

[acoustic osprey]

the first half of the boot screen (which ends at the end of the Cadeuceus bit)
is based off an old 386 computer running Windows 3.11

you may be able to see the similarities

I was thinking of staying with the 3.1 theme
which maybe i should've

but i went with Windows 95

however
I think the excuse here is that such person running the computer is running "Windows 95" / Caduceus through a floppy/boot

only problem is
Windows 95 needed a lot more than one floppy

[lethal moat]

Floppy drives are interesting

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm
I will take note. Thank you

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-lightsaber-obiwankenobi-obi-gif-19677892

[acoustic osprey]

didn't really want to steal any of your guys' stuff
wanted to make an 'alternative' / "pre-1994" (from the roadmap) version that would be theoretically used by someone / likely higher-placed

mostly just playing around.
Do wanna finish it though and probably upload to the YT

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1251510938968920074/TheIsleClient-Win64-Shipping_22IkDOoYaF.gif

also
boot screen sounds interesting
if it's for the actual game

I would honestly kill for a more "timely" boot (if it was allowed skippable, a bit like Sea of Thieves)

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/gwQyNpwL29E
basically this

I wanted to make a custom "boot sound"
that's mostly why I went with Windows 95

[acoustic osprey]

this version also has the "similar to the Augustus video boot-up" as well

[acoustic osprey]

(which uses the "up - down - up" motif that's in the Jurassic Park theme, on the 'bass')

[thin vine]

hoping to summon dondi with this one

oh great dondi 🕯️

is jurassic park canon to the isle? (as in, did the movie jurassic park release in 1993 in the isle universe lol)

[hexed forge]

This will give the urge to ban you instead

[thin vine]

I JUST WANNA KNOW

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[lethal moat]

Dinosaurception

[thin vine]

cause like, imagine AE working on omni and then JP releases

and they get super anxious and suspicious that someone leaked their stuff but in reality its pure coincidence lol

[young viper]

wait are you being fr??

[thin vine]

i just think it would be FUNNY if jurassic park released in the AE universe

[lethal moat]

AE goes on a hunt to find a security breach lol

[thin vine]

they kidnap steven and hes just lollygagging around while the heads of AE are straight up going crazy

[young viper]

yea what if dondi is actually John Hammond and Filipe is Owen grady

[acoustic osprey]

AE bankrolled Universal to create Apollo Park, the movie

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-where-is-she-nikkal-nikkalkundhal-nick-gif-18076474

[fast forge]

my theory is the opposite - they asked their AI to create a raptor like the ones in the popular movie

[thin vine]

this is genuinely way funnier

head of AE seems the velos from JP and goes "hm..."

@lethal moat what do we know about the world outside of the islands

[fast forge]

we know it's on earth

religions exist, and there are governments

and there are other corporations

[acoustic osprey]

we know AE are global to some extent
we know governments may use AE - where AE doesn't really have the choice to pick

[lethal moat]

What they said

[thin vine]

i see

is the outside world still relatively normal

[fast forge]

?

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really know how similar it is to our world

[fast forge]

no idea

[thin vine]

grrr

[fast forge]

It could be on the brink of climate catastrophe, or even post-climate catastrophe

But it's probably a bit more like our world than that

[thin vine]

i mean, i cant see much of a reason AE would switch from botany to genetic engineering in what seems to be overnight (to me atleast) other than some global threat like climate change

[lethal moat]

We sadly don’t really know the timeline

[acoustic osprey]

less so botany to bio-engineering

more so botany to dinosaurs
likely bio-engineering throughout everything under "AE"

which is what we can see with aspects like food for the dibbles, being enchanced

[lethal moat]

Crab 🦀

[thin vine]

do we have any indication of how aware the public (or maybe not the public, shareholders i guess? or the governments? basically anyone outside of AE) is of the dinosaurs?

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Earth?

Dondi said smthn like that I think

"Earth?"

[thin vine]

i ask because im just wondering why AE chose dinosaurs of all things

they're very obviously not actual dinosaurs and i doubt they have any actual dinosaur dna in them due to them being almost solely 90's reconstructions of dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

Why dinosaurs is a very dangerous wuestion

[thin vine]

im wondering how much of the dinosaur inspo was showing off for governments and companies while sneaking in things that the government couldnt see

like troodon

[lethal moat]

We know there is a hunting lodge sort of place

[thin vine]

being able to take an animal and go "well what if we did this?" is incredibly impressive, but it also serves as the perfect testing ground for other things such as venom

[acoustic osprey]

old old tweet

[thin vine]

what does this mean

[acoustic osprey]

we will learn soon

[thin vine]

Æ distracting the governments with fancy omniraptor while dropping gen 1's onto some poor innocent island with an uncontacted tribe just to see what happens

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/in-the-name-of-science-kwebbelkop-for-the-sake-of-science-for-science-for-scientific-purposes-gif-19253647

[fast forge]

I remember sitting around as a class in 1st grade, watching the teacher log on to the internet for the first time with dialup, and it played that signature horrendous noise

[acoustic osprey]

HRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[fast forge]

that would have been '93 or '94

I remember playing old educational kids games on those computers

those old computers were such a vibe, that video kinda brought me back

[lethal moat]

Back in mah dae

Nuh uh

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-grand-pa-millenial-old-gif-10484595

better version

[lethal moat]

Not possible, I’m immortal and eternally youthful

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[lethal moat]

You doubt?

[fast forge]

no that's crow, doubt doesn't usually come to this channel

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

IT'S TOO CUTE, DON'T DO IT

I'm playing hypsi rn too

[lethal moat]

Alacablam

[acoustic osprey]

hmm, this is true

[valid geyser]

I dunno, might be

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redR1hjJuQw Isaac the ending-

[hexed forge]

Taylor Swift edits are the best parts in Isle Lore 🗣️

[sand basin]

ew the cerato

[hexed forge]

Oh it's Nova

[sand basin]

nuh uh

[hexed forge]

Uh huh

[sand basin]

idk who you are

[hexed forge]

Same, if you want to learn about the lore read the first document in pinned msgs

[sand basin]

lore

https://tenor.com/view/naw-mike-epps-nah-hell-hellnaw-gif-1185257889333926573

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

I blame it on you Rumple

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/verycat-cateat-gif-7339469281817108398

[lethal moat]

I did nothing wrong

[hexed forge]

You scared him away on the first attempt

[lethal moat]

I did no such thing

[hexed forge]

Alright I blame it on @valid geyser

[lethal moat]

Bet

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-flabbergasted-shocked-wink-reaction-gif-25698054

[hexed forge]

Anyways, time to start a lore topic

[lethal moat]

Cameras

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1229174325744242758/Diabloceratops_Migration_Data_Short_Gif.gif?ex=666ffb0c&is=666ea98c&hm=ba9b8a3d12ae363ae8473d7a8aa15036b39e5d1f69f8c4921329eaf9093b371e&

So, where did the dibbles die. One died above perimeter, thats the only one I could get a clear thought on.

I'm asking because it's tied to my second project

I think 2 Dibbles died at south plains too hmm

@sand basin make a theory

[sand basin]

I am still mad about them not having a special name

😂

[sand basin]

they drop like flies ez

[hexed forge]

Awesome theory

[sand basin]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

Hold up

[sand basin]

No

no ! don't you dare

https://tenor.com/view/baby-running-oops-wrong-way-gif-7939302

[hexed forge]

Can't find the Dibble meme

[sand basin]

oh . I thought you wanted to share private dms 😂

[hexed forge]

@fast forge can you post the "rip Dibble #49393" meme please

Breh lmao

[hexed forge]

Yeahhh

Saved, thanks

[sand basin]

They probs died at swamp

To a deino ambush

While trying to get to stego island

[hexed forge]

One died above perimeter and 2 died near south plains

[fast forge]

if you want, I can send you the individual images that make this gif
It's much easier to use the arrow keys in image viewer and cycle through them to see what's going on

[hexed forge]

You

[sand basin]

Whattttttt

Neverrrrrrrrr

[hexed forge]

You died to a deino xD

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, nah, I think I'm good, thanks tho.

[fast forge]

you sure? It makes a world of difference if you are trying to examine the migration data
And it's only 10 images

[sand basin]

Stop with the lies please . Rule 11 . Please do not spread false info

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, yes actually. Send them in, I thought you were talking about smthn diff

[hexed forge]

"I just wanted my S diet "

[sand basin]

did we start yet

[sand basin]

[hexed forge]

Killed the entire server with that

[sand basin]

Nuh uh

welp anyways bye chat (idk why I am here to begin with)

[hexed forge]

You will come back

[sand basin]

Nah. Stop with the pings !

[hexed forge]

You just came back, told you.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hamilton-king-george-youll-be-back-jonathan-groff-gif-17709873

[sand basin]

BECAUSE YOU ARE PINGING ME

[hexed forge]

Came back again

[sand basin]

https://tenor.com/view/salty-block-gif-23750827

[hexed forge]

Ahahah

[lethal moat]

I’d love to see surveillance towers on gateway have cameras, or even just poles in the middle of a field with 360 cameras on the top

[fast forge]

tbh that might be too high-tech for the time period

back then you'd more likely see a pole with 4 cameras pointed in different directions

[lethal moat]

That works too

[strange shell]

Is a rotating camera higher tech than a cyborg quetz ?

[fast forge]

so this world is a mix of real tech and sci-fi stuff

The fantastical stuff gets the sci-fi treatment
The mundane grounded stuff gets the real tech

That's why we get AI and cloning and strains in the same world with old Windows '93 computers and poor video resolution

It's plot tech vs atmospheric tech

And I'd say the cameras fall into atmosphere column

[lethal moat]

I think either would work

[fast forge]

Old cameras with that boxy look are just so iconic, and would fit the other tech vibes

[lethal moat]

360 or multiple angles could work, but based on what we’ve already seen, I’d say the multiple cameras is more likely

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-dancing-nessie-cute-kawaii-gif-8245402692378507513

Fun fact: the swamp has the only population of conifers on Gateway (so far)

[snow jasper]

that sounds something like Jolly would say

[hexed forge]

Jolly's alt account

[snow jasper]

fr

[fast forge]

The trees are Taxodium distichum, the Bald Cypress. If they look familiar to you, it's because they are all over the United States southwest

The little bumpy roots that come out of the water? Those are known as "knees"

They allow the tree to have gas exchange down at the roots, in otherwise stagnant swamp water (because roots need air too)

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296

[hexed forge]

Interesting

[valid geyser]

Can I eat that?

[hexed forge]

Yes

[valid geyser]

yay!

[fast forge]

they are made of wood, do you often eat wood?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/head-bang-head-banging-banging-head-on-wall-im-over-this-im-done-gif-6513217525092377963

[valid geyser]

I mean I used to eat paper and paper is trees and trees are wood so

[median shuttle]

do yall think with domes gettin1g new glass roofs that dome interiors might be the next human stuff to be added to gateway?

[lethal moat]

We know there is an “object” coming before hordetest is over for lore stuff

[median shuttle]

an object you say, any theories yet?

[median shuttle]

did don say that? I assume don is the one who announces/teases lore and human stuff

[lethal moat]

Dondi said it’ll be obvious, so it’s either big, loud, or bright

[median shuttle]

do you think object means one singular structure or a small area or maybe just one piece of equipment somewhere

[lethal moat]

Who knows

[median shuttle]

like a crashed heli maybe, or a satelite array, or maybe even docks

[robust ether]

docks would be a wild drop to call an "object" lmao

[median shuttle]

yeah true

[median shuttle]

don does, lol

[robust ether]

hey islanders,

a fifth of the map is a massive structure now :D

actually do we know how big they want the dockyard to be? i know massive but im not sure if we have concept art for it or not.

[median shuttle]

idrk, it could be several smaller ones

[robust ether]

fair im thinking about the big one they wanted for spiro arent i

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-roblox-meme-the-isle-isle-lore-lore-gif-25684390

[median shuttle]

you might

[robust ether]

hello isaac

[median shuttle]

Isaac is writing up some prophetic texts rn

[robust ether]

watch it be 5 words

[acoustic osprey]

It's not that hard to make 360 degree cameras
You just need either a device with two large enough mm
Roughly around 1.44mm on each hemisphere

Or, if you want something more expensive
Have several cameras literally making a ball

[median shuttle]

not 5 but definetly less than expected

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

On phone!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

Hi...

[patent ginkgo]

hi

[robust ether]

why does lore chat have slowmode

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-theisle-the-isle-lore-lore-gif-19857045

[robust ether]

what do they think happens in here

[hexed forge]

Why not

[robust ether]

its stinky

[acoustic osprey]

It would have to be lore related
So if it is docks

Don likely means
Something within "new area" that is an object which has lore

Because docks, itself, isn't really lore

[robust ether]

do we know anything about gateways dockyards btw

[lethal moat]

We’ve seen the cranes and containment structures

[lethal moat]

You know the islands to the southeast? I’d love for those to be exclusively industrial areas

[median shuttle]

probably more logistical than industrial

[robust ether]

you want to industrialize the great britain? seems dangerous to me idk man

[robust ether]

im actually so mad that i cant unsee that. it bugs me everytime i look at the map

[acoustic osprey]

Noooooo

[median shuttle]

idk if industrial zones on the island itself would make sense, too big a risk to invest so much in industrial infrastructure if the supplies can just be shipped

[lethal moat]

There’s a convenient moat, that could be connected vis monorail

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/chiko-sama-gif-21421865

[median shuttle]

where is that moat?

[lethal moat]

The islands to the southeast

[median shuttle]

I still dk abt the offshore dockyard theory tbh

[lethal moat]

I like it

[median shuttle]

I still think it'll be on the mainland

[lethal moat]

I think there will be multiple docks, with the biggest one on the island

[median shuttle]

I can see that

I just want more human stuff

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

Discuss colors

Purple as highest rank makes most sense because royalty, then maybe just top down left to right

[median shuttle]

i can see purple being highest clearance

yall think humans will just be shadow dropped into an upcoming hordetest (I mean functional humans not the shell that is in rn)

[lethal moat]

Nah

I think it'll be a minute

[median shuttle]

I'm not saying next ht or sth

just like, in some random ht suddenly there will be humans

[lethal moat]

I still think it'll be awhile, but shadow dropping humans seems like something that isn't unreasonable

[median shuttle]

cause like some progress with humans is already happening and since theres tons of blueprints for making humans in a openworld fps survival game so it's probably less tricky than doing dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I think it'll be a minute, but they're definitely prepping for it

[median shuttle]

ik theres some more underwater assets planned for oceans but anyone know if gateway has a reef?