#isle-lore-theories
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Could go hypsi and just eat grass to speedrun it
Rumple you are still away from your PC yes?
Yeah
Would hypsi work
probably not a carni/herbi mutation
Why would it be species specific?
I dunno if it would have to be nesting, might just be time spent in a human base
if it's hypsi we would have to nest to get it anyway
We can try all, and hypsi grows fast, so you could nest and grow there
I might just try the growing there with dryo
Go for it
DOCKTAHS
Im busy with schoolwork rn, so I cant go on and test.
hey thats me
I don't know what docktah is
The uwutah stereotype
Eh, just global chat cringy people micpacking etc
Legacy stuff then?

I'm so lost...
Soon
the stereotypical utah group at the docks in legacy, which would typically be hardcore roleplaying in... odd ways, and would kill anything that comes near (cause utahs in legacy could tailride anything)
I see I see
You see our guesses that the lore drop would be that dino reading human writing mutation?
Roleplaying a couple.
As soon as I step a single foot into the docks in legacy ^
Evrima dockyard going to be epic though
Trust, the docktahs won’t return, we’ll hold the line
I have a question - was the lorem ipsum writing removed on initial launch of horde test? can any lore hunters here confirm
no idea
It’s not there, which is why we need to have people in structures trying to get the reading mutation
I've been trying to do that
I've been in every human stucture on one dino (minus a few bridges, fences sort of thing)
oh traveling to all of them? that's an idea
I'm trying the "time spent at a human base"
there are only 2 things that I haven't visited, or like.. random crates by waterfall and stuff
I guess I could visit those things too
Thanks guys
but I do not think that is how you get it and I have evidence
I'm sitting at H4 and kinda trying for some other mutations too
Maybe the jumping one?
evidence?
the only thing I am not factoring in and I hope it's not a thing, is mutation slot lock
it probably is a thing
Could also just not be in yet
aka: you can only get certain mutations in certain slots, as I've been trying all this on a 3rd slot open dino
I've heard you can't get saltwater on 3rd slot
tempted to kill my human-structure tourist herrera to try first slot
anyways will keep you all updated 
Oh hey I got this from just jumping a lot
Interesting, what’s on the inside other than the open door?
I 100% remember this finding this closed door like a month ago
and thinking "so what, it just kinda leads to this little hill?"
Maybe it had a closet in that space?
Maybe
Potentially
noooo I fell through the map...
Potentially lore 
From what?
The papers are gone
GUTS 
idk
Ah
I sadly was running around in there and fell down out of the world and lost my grown raptor
does it just become an option to pick or is it selected automatically
they are always just an option to pick
did these lockers always have numbers?
and the word "Afterthought" written at the bottom
I believe so
Since U3.5
Yes
They're getting redone
Don said all the text on that are not canon
Better gun lockers bring me joy
Nice
More documents would be sick
I feel like we are getting something tomorrow, hope.
🤞
I've been sitting at this base for like an hour or more
don't think I'm gonna get a mutation for it...
If not, we’ll hold out until next update
might also be like,visiting 3 human bases before you hit mutation slot 2 or something
Maybe
In the top middle-right of (attachment), there's a robo-quetz in a dome. What if the domes are where all the dinosaurs were supposed to stay, but they escaped into the surrounding area, and now humans gotta try to re-dome them? owo?
Did I do it? Did I do a lore? OwO?
Dibble video shows dibble inserted onto the island outside of the domes
D::::
Well, mebe domes are for flyers, then. -w-. Cuz they can fly off the island.
Wait. Crap. Deinos can swim off it. Ruined. v.=.v...
I wouldn’t hold my breath, but maybe
what dino is that
Herrerasaurus
Are those fireflies
quetz..
Allo when
Just water drop effects on the concrete from the lighting
Ahk
Lets discuss the PDA tablet, I think that’s going to be a pretty important part of gen 2’s gameplay
“You got games on your phone?”

Fixing radio stations would be high priority because of communication and the potential ability to connect to databases ||like chip tracking||
I kinda hope it’s sort of like fallouts pip boy, where you can plug it in to terminals
I like the idea
Having stuff like the PDA tablet and able to fix bases is really gonna set this game in stone, I honestly can’t wait to see what Gen 2 will play out
Vehicles would also be nice if done right, I’d like to be able to do safari trips around the islands
hey guys I'm back again with another theory so what if tekken 8 is connected to the isle..... alr ill be back next month with another theory
I haven’t played enough fallout, but from my understanding, the pip boy would be a good comparison to how I want the PDA to be used
It’s basically just a wrist computer that takes stock of your inventory, checks your health and signs of radiation, has a map, has a radio, and in some games they show straight up stats like how many things you’ve killed, how many things you’ve eaten and ect
I’d like a notes section, downloading documents, maybe some sort of map, chip tracking, and some sort of message system
Ohhh
And a cassette player
But cassettes are called holotapes
So maybe we could have something like small documented audio logs that we can listen through that
Audio logs would be sick
Audio log: The experiments on subject static sounds was a complete failure, most of the research team from static noise -as disappeared or is dead.
Or they could actually give information
Or it’s an accidental recording while a dude is chatting
Or it’s a dead saboteur who recorded an important conversation
Documented research logs of the scientist that created the gen1s... 
Asset shows increasing aggressiveness towards humans.
Fun
Mhm
Is there a lore explanation why only some species have strains?
There used to be a reason it was only carnivores, but there isn’t anymore, and we don’t know enough about strains in Evrima to say
Play the isle in the isle
We need more cameras around gateway 
yes
yeah like in legacy where the cameras would follow you and take pictures here and there
It watches
nova, the bees don't have any honey
Sounds like bee propaganda to me, keep looking
The government has established propaganda at every corner
is horde test na1 up
Wrong channel
Nice pfp tho
oops sorry i was readin here before lol

Yeah
A few textures were removed a few months ago now
Bit sad
But i presume more will come
gen 1???
Mutts
imagine a website that shows some of the cameras POV
I remember hearing something like that in an older anthomnia video
something like this
https://www.youtube.com/live/ydYDqZQpim8?si=7snqYZAFhzbAdMOc
Live feed, from a waterhole in the heart of Namibia Complementing the magnificence of the Namib Desert’s never-ending red sand dunes, Namibia Cam’s waterhole...
Well
I had a big lore idea a while ago about that
tell
Hmm
Can't find it
I have a significant amount of time in the airport, I hope something pops up
?
I mistook a PM for an AM and arrived 12 hours early
oh jeez I'm sorry dude
Nah, both me and my friend overlooked it, now I’m just watching all the Saw movies
Just a stupid mistake
Well some stupid mistakes hurt people, or mess up your life, or cost you your job. At least this one just meant you had a lot of waiting
Yep
Does anyone have the old port concept art?
Danke
I am going to assume that the port is going to be much different on gateway
I wouldn’t think there’d be much reason to change it
So in short, I could technically look for a bay shaped like the spiro one and say that could be a possible port location? 🤔
There’s lots of potential locations on gateway, my favorite is the large southeast island
My fav is the NE/E bay.
Since the port is made of modular pieces, it could be placed in any location suitable for it
Not necessarily the same shape as Spiro's
we're talking about the one that looks like the UK right???
Yes
hate that i cant unsee that now btw
I think of it as a potato wedge because of a crude drawing that I made
shove all the dibbles on it
lore drop soonTM 🙏
Yes
hope that doesnt translate into months but you know
Before end of horde test, comfirmed

Lore drop in June
The HT might take longer than June 
The fact that he said “when it’s solved” makes me think it’s definitely the reading mutation
Mhm
So, POSSIBLY, he might throw around some notes around the map and then we gotta find all of them.
And that ties up to 1 major thing 😛
Or a lot of things
He never said lore drop, just that we’d eat well
I want to get my hands on those reports and records
I can add a “files” section to my lore folder
yes, it is dank
hm?
nvm...
Cerato, I forget, are you in america?
No,I live in america, but no.
oh dank is slang for like, cool
Oh, alr

lol this is literally me rn
We could all use more potato chips
I had an impossible burger the other day and was pretty disappointed
I support island dockyards
There are a couple small U-shaped dockyards on that map that might match up to that design
Smol
Also Augustus video location maybe?
Perhaps
It's really really close to the location on Isaac's version
Mhm, that whole bottom left is pretty unfinished
although it would be H3
Things can move quite a bit especially from such an early concept like that one
it's true, but there is also a LOT of things that are still true from that old map
Most of the tunnel entrances are the same
A number of the resupply stations are the same, or very close
Half the number of domes though
yeah
river doesn't go through to water access dam
there is no highlands
no volcano
no lake in NE Plains
But it's clear they largely stuck to this design
It is kinda interesting that there are multiple small "Nesting Grounds" (green patches) in West Access, but only one elsewhere - a big one in East Plains
Oh wait
What if the big lore reveal in-game and out has something to do with this thing
Would explain GW-F5
kinda...

Well I have gathered more evidence on how the lore drop is tied to the dockyard.
So that in total makes, 3-5 pieces of evidence supporting it. One of which might not be really fairplay

would be fun if there is some kind of lore scavenger hunt or something
For all the future updates this hordetest
Indeed
The horde will search every inch of this island.
I think that the dibble is the creator of gateway. And thats why i walked my snail
Come to find out i dont even know where the new winter home is
Having a real port for the first time since V3 is going to be amazing
If it can explain f5
Then I see that being the out of game aspect
Which I wouldn't be surprised
Don has said we'll know
I flew over the area as ptera today, didn't see anything
but that's an interesting connection to that clue
In game and out of game intrigues me
Out of game is likely a #isle-phase-three post, and ingame is something we have to solve
A bunch of papers around the map that we have to collect perhaps
I like puzzles
Well
At least we know it's not out yet, whatever it is
I just hope he doesnt throw an IMPORTANT piece of paper in a bush in the middle of some random jungle... he wouldnt do that right-
I like the idea that the out of game is something we already had, the dibble video
although I do want more 
I believe it'll be more so a connection
Or some sort of unlisted and hidden link of sorts
Yes a connection
Rather than an offical post
The way Don described it
I doubt it'll be a puzzle game out of the actual game
We said the puzzle ingame tho
You said out of game as well
I dont believe so
watch it's just a crossword puzzle 
Then fix your grammar!!
"... post, and ingame ..."

yay
But what I mean is
The out of game lore bit being either a connection for the reasoning of what F5 is
Or
Something we can find in game that can be exported into discord
Like an in game glance sheet
That’s my assumption as well, we find a sheet then get a high res version
Dont forget that we have to solve it, or atleast solve something.
It might not be a literal puzzle though
Finding out how to get the reading mutation sounds good to me
hmm
Oh actually
We might spend more time learning how to get it than actually processing the new lore 
Don refers to the difference between "found" and "solved"
So I guess it will be a puzzle of sorts
So we solve!
Like everything in lore, I guess, lol
Now.. What could it be? An observation notesheet? Asset profile(Like the cera,beipi, and galli sheets) A map?
I wonder if it'll be more solvable than things like Errant291
I doubt it'll be simple like a glance sheet
I want it to answer some questions and give us new ones
Mmm
Incident report?
Like any good story
Or just give us a bunch more questions instead of answering more than 1. 
However
The thing is
Don also refers to when its solved... it'll be posted
Post a screenshot! 
Maybe it's less a lore thing with a puzzle inside
makes me think of the ripped sheet from errant 291
The message I replied i
i
i

And more so something more simple
You just need to decipher it to understand what it means
I presume that likely leans to the reading mutation
To
This one
So
When its there = Released
When its found = we find the new thing
When its solved = Solve on how to use the reading mutation
When posted = Successfully decypher it

When it's posted = it's posted
Well that could work yes 😂
I presume the solving part is finding how to get the mutation
Then once we find it
We likely get a lore sheet or two
Which might have some new information
Potentially the troodon report that Don talked about years ago
So Dondi rewards us with the "Out of game" when we find the "Ingame"?
Or an enhancement of what we found in game
At C14 perhaps? The place of where the troodon art was staged in.
Maybe
We have to find the golden ticket to tour the dinosaur factory
Oh yeah, basically just gives us a better quality picture?
I'd imagine that
That’s my thought
Tartarus
I want information on the replicator/replication process
When this new lore comes out, we have to ask him if its in/around a human structure, or quite literally in the middle of nowhere.
it might be something obvious
All right then
If it's potentially going to be connected to the lore reading mutation
Should be theorise how to potentially get it
I think we’ll have to find it before he gives us anything about it
Like the dockyard!! 
Just stealth drop it and let it happen
Live in a human structure for X amount of time
Perhaps
Don referred to finding first then solving
I'm guessing it'll be "easy" to find
But harder to get
The proper version of whatever it is
Or hatch out of a nest in a human structure.
I'm guessing visit all human locations
Potentially all resupply posts
If its nesting... that would be tough..
Very painful
But we have enough people to do so
Its if those people have the time
What would be the best to do it with?
Ptera? Galli?
We have the technology
Hypsi maybe
Hypsi is just a bit too small
But it could work
Dryo then
How much stam does hypsi have though
Hypsi would be my choice, followed by omniraptor
A lot
But enough to get around the whole island?
Or at least, what is it's stam regen like?
It has fast regen so yes, probably
Mmmm
Might be good then to try that
If not
Ptera is easy to grow
Without fear of being attacked by randos
Hypsi has hops, we can jump onto roofs and nest there
I dont trust fish spawns, never trust fish spawns.
Mmmm
90% of my ptera lives consisted of little fish because of this AI system..
I think I'm down for hypsi then
I finished my studio work last Friday
And I don't leave for Thailand till mid July
So I think we'll be zooming then
(Dondi delays the lore until mid July)
I'm fully free
Hopefully it's sometime soon!
So its either
Explore all human buildings(Resupply points?)
Nest in a human structure
Live in a human structure for X amount of time
Looking at salt walter mutation
I'm imaging it's going to be painfully long
Saltwater mutation isnt really long tho
All you have to do is vomit because of the saltwater and then wait until your next mutation tier
(A few times)
Really? I got it with 1 vomit
I've heard it is longer with others
Must be relatively random
Hmmm
The Isle
Quite so
#isle-lore-theories message it can be happening rn ig

Nah
We asked him and he said no
Soon!!
May be the next update
Just spent over an hour in human buildings on this galli. Got to 100% growth. No sign of "Pattern Recognition" mutation in any mutation slot 
I presume it'll be, if it'll exist at all, in whatever the lore update is
do we have any solid evidence of a reading mutation? Like did we get any hints? I've been busy so I've missed a lot, sorry 
Yes, maybe and no
Yes we know it existed
Maybe, there is a potential the lore drop in one of the new ht updates will use it
No, we haven't see it yet in game
So we know it exists, we just don't know if it's available yet?
Exists in the void of possibility, yes
I think its related to nesting then
I'm gonna try visiting a bunch of human bases and see if that unlocks it, but yeah it might be nesting or it's just not in the game yet
I bet it’s not in yet
Imagine
Wondering if we'll see this base soon
What with Don's comment about the screenshot of the new pond in that area
Especially convincing is the terrain that's there right now
Wide open and flat, with a road at either side of the field (hard to see on the left)
That’s where the underground base is
Yes that bit
and also that fact
Just feel like this might be the thing that's coming soon
idk, I have several condidates, and knowing Don, they are probably all wrong 
That coast is also U-shaped. Which is how the port is designed. Another piece of evidence!!
(Knowing Don, even the amount of evidence will not matter.. it might be something completely different)
(Spiro port)
The concepts all demonstrated the port being U-shaped. Even on the gateway old concept. It's likely it's still U-shaped but ig it mightve changed
Spiro port, that concept art, was u shaped!!
The port on gateway is also U shaped!!
This place was likely going to be the original gateway port
Don referred to testing there that would go to ST
We got to see and hear nothing about it afterwards
A lot of stuff changed from that old concept map, so the port location likely changed too
well they did and they didn't change
lots of stuff is still the same
I was just talking about this yesterday
#isle-lore-theories message
Yes but Don actually referred to that area!!!!
To be fair
He's comment was a lot sooner
But prior to Don talking about using the heat maps area a nod to where they should make more human stuff
Did you see Filipe's recent comment confirming that west access and NW ridge will be human based?
Off-topic to this discussion but yippee
Was dondi referring to that area?
I mean
I guess it confirms what has been alluded to with the heat map information
Mmm
Mmm
Could be related, I also could see it being very different
Yeah, I can see it
Today?
Photo from my doc I imagine
This
That was 3 days ago in the discussion channel
I missed it damn
So different variets of gen 1, we knew that. But a gen 1 that is disease based and spreads it? Venomous basically? 
Neuro goo!!!!
Also maybe
Gen 1
N-Gen1
@acoustic osprey did you understand it yet
NO
Maybe
Maybe
Maybe
Given it’s all caps I would say probably
So the term is related to gen1 or echidna
I would guess echidna
The original gif was in all caps
It was about the purpose of/ thing about echidna
So they
Carry something

Perfect analysis, court dismissed
Maybe
Perhaps
Mayhaps
50/50
Cosi cosi
Conceivably
Perhappenchance
Woah
That should be a mutation
You're all the sane ones now, #isle-discussion has lost their collective marbles, owo. Carry on. -w-.
@unique eagle as you can see, we are not sane.
Wait you're the same person-people!! 
Mhm
You already paid without knowing
Oh no
Yes
I spent it well
On a two dollar sandwich
But I haven't ate a sandwich today
Omg but did you at least drink your water? 
Foot long cookie from subway
We are the reason discussion went insane
I have drank water and coke today
And ate rice, eggs, sushi, and chicken
Good work! 
Good yes. -w-.
If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring in the lore of lore. Wouldnt lore become the lorelore of lore?
What if the lore drop is reactivating Olympus transmitter? 

That would be amazing I would rejoice
Full on celebration
Cake and all
Long live the Olympus transmitter
Seriously though that would be nice have something that isn’t just dondi telling us things something a little more in lore
In game without being in game
Ha
That would be something
I'm happy to hear that, I like those areas and want to see more players in them
Please
Lol
and adding one really big radio tower to the map
Hear me out right
What if there was a large truck in the game with a shipping container on the back that you could use as a command center
Hrmm..
Yes yes but drivable..? 
Not while people are inside
I mean, you could, but I’d recommend seatbelts
Idk where to ask this but does anyone have any good like video suggestions or sm that I could watch to understand the isles lore that we know of. I keep watching videos but I feel like I’m missing something
We’re all missing a lot, Lightclaw makes good stuff and the lore server has a podcast you can listen to
Sure, I’ll DM you
Okai Ty
Sent
Thx
Lightclaw video is still missing a lot though
Intentionally so though
Ah. If you are talking about the latest one then I figured. There was a lot of information that was being talked about like common knowledge(outside of his video/channel*) that I didn’t know about and I’m pretty sure they weren’t talked about in the video
Yeah
All introductory stuff
Sadly, not enough to discuss further without going into abstract bits and pieces
Ah
But
Planning to make a iceberg lore video
More abstract
But
Super large video of information
You might also have seen this already https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin (PSA: Hyperendocrin is shortened as “Hyper”, though “Hypo” is often used) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Apollo Engineering: - A subsidiary of the larger...
^ very helpful doc
Idk if I have
Definitely a scare read though
Alr thx ill read it
Enjoy!
Ok thank you lol
This is what i think the isle lore is
Apollo Engineering tried making Jurassic Park and it failed and us the player plays as a dinosaur a few months or a few years after Apollo failed in making Jurassic Park and the reason there is humans is either Apollo Employees getting supplies left on the island, Apollo Employees that where left behind on the island and illegal poachers trying to sell live dinosaurs etc. Also the cannibals and hypos etc where failed creatures Apollo made cuz they where trying to make there own dinosaurs.
Reply if there is anything i didnt say in this
could i also get an invite?? ^^
sure i can send you one
tysmm
no worries
Nò
Uh oh the wrong lore person got offended now
it's okay, he's not so scary, he's actually a pachy main 
Oh i know, those are the worst. Cuz they don't think about their actions... or at all
more bone than brain
You forgor about gen 1
I like the version with blush and kitty ears
Dondi said they were multiple sorts of gen 1, so both can exist
In the game. No

Well yeah for mods it might be possible 
Dondi said “certain archetypes” of gen 1 on at least two occasions now, which makes me think after you customize and get into game, gen 1’s gameplay may be very adaptable, possibly as a result of interacting with the replicator
I'm gonna play the archetype with hair
You know the predator dreadlocks? Or maybe like quills? Something like that could be cool
What's the lore behind the walls in the East?
It seems like it used to be a large enclosure
maybe they tried to contain the dinos at first?
Basically yes, some sort of enclousure. Ignore the left part of this image
Most of it are predictions that are valid mostly
We disagree on the purpose
Alright, Tiny brought this up in discussion. Time to bring it up here.
So
Mimicry, N- Strain, or Echidna
My fav theory is that it could be a gen 1.
Gen 1 was supposed to be.... a human right?
So I wouldnt be surprised if they can speak some sort of distorted human language. And maybe different versions learned to perfect it.
But from what I understood on the first line. The thing can sense radiowaves? Hm
I think it would just be sensitive equipment or other things that would receive interference
Eh, maybe, I think it depends on what island the Errant 291 sheet takes place on
It takes place on Gateway no? I thought we knew that, nvm ig.
We don’t really have evidence for it
And if the thing in the forest is a gen 1, I would presume it isn’t gateway
Hm, well one of the other theories people referred to them as troodons. Possible mimicry?
the first bullet point does not necessarily relate to the other two
tbh I hate the idea of troodon mimicking human voices, seems silly to me
even chimps can't make human voices, and a troodon body is much different
I'd be fine with it mimicking dinosaur calls, like a bird, but human speech is really really complex
Maybe mimic crying or screaming, but not voices
yeah I could see it doing a baby cry
Episode 5 was neat. I can probably break some theories.
Do tell
Granted, I’ve probably changed my minds about a bunch if stuff since March
Question one, how are EIPs related to the TOMB?
We always thought that TOMB is some sort of database of EIPs right?
Maybe
I honestly cant wait to see them ingame, however I am not sure how far they are from completion. I hope we atleast get some of it this year.
What do you mean by “them”?
GUTS
Brother UgaTech has been put on a mission for the GUTS after a few dockyard set pieces are created.
They will be seen.

Tell him the Lore team will be waiting and will appreciate his work 

Awesome
Looking forward to stuff
I'm sure it won't make it past QA but if nothing else it functions kind of.
I'll usher it off to the non-existent single-player experience.

Also can you give us any details on this "Loredrop" coming to the HT 
It has been a hot topic here
He already said we ain’t gettin nothin
Oof, I really hope its a structure.
It's an object.
Hooray
Woah, Alright, Interesting.
Clearly the replicator!!!
The replicator isnt on Gateway tho, iirc.
Except that it isn’t planned for the island
Yeah

Is GUTS structured in a spiderweb fashion where it’s super connected or more like rural back roads where they split off randomly to hit important points?
So like an Ant Colony, or straight roads going left, right, or forward?
Is that what you are sayin rumple?
Said the blind man
Isaac reference
Everything is an Isaac reference
thanks
If it’s wholesome, it’s generally lightclaw, if it’s reasonably scuffed, there’s a solid chance I had a hand in is lol
A weapon? A folder and documents? A gen1 skull? A suitcase with secret things?? So many options...
well it's a saying older than isaac
What if its just a paper... That we solve using the reading mutation.. 
yes that had occurred to me
We’ll find the object, search all the vending machines, it’s bound to be around there somewhere
You will absolutely know it when you see it. I'm sure when it's in it will not be long before it's found at all. Same day. Maybe within minutes, I'd say. It's that kind of obvious.
Obvious thread will be obvious.

But then, What did he mean by this?
I was making a jurassic park joke 
I meant to reply to my own msg nooo
I meant to reply to this
Does a radio tower count as a structure or object 
I was typing the exact same thing lol
Building?
Its. A structure no?
I would say a structure, unfortunately
Does it have anything to do with this ?
Would love to see a radio tower like in that one artwork
I feel like him stressing the point obvious means it’s not just different, but draws attention
I've said what I've said. I won't be going further because no one needs more than that.

Bat signal
oh no
So, this object
Is extremely visible.
@acoustic osprey When you wake up, for the Lore Hunt, I feel like we should throw galli and hypsi out of the window and go ptera.
Imagine if it was a complete human base around this pond... without being a single building, kinda sad thats it's just an object, but it is still interesting
@carmine marsh
consult the duck
Bruce Brachiosaurus
Oh this is definitely, then, going to be some sort of page or thing at a human location
have to note this down on the Lore Hunt chat
hypsi is far too slow, it's 100% between ptera and galli.
having played a lot of both ptera and galli, i think galli is the way to go.
yes ptera gives you the overhead view which can be very helpful, but now that galli has a trot that rivels diablos run speed, it can travel the map faster than even ptera.
not to mention the stam costs for constantly having to land to check out the insides of human structures as ptera.
if you have enough people, you could do both.
What if we have 1 or 2 people first go ptera to scout for this extremely visible object
Then once we got the location, everyone goes galli and runs over there. Seems like a plan
6-8 people that I know of
Thats if the patch releases at the time of us being online
that can work yeah.
i don't know about you but the very moment its released i'm going to that spot by the ocean where i first said there'd be a dock all those months ago, because it really is looking like that's where it'll be.
Yeah, but I think we have enough people that we’ll identify it pretty quickly
still
we have a rough circle of people across the timezones to over it
AND
I have 10 weeks of holidays now
I want to be online for this
Fair
i'll pay the bodily price of it comes to it
I could convince shiny as well, guarantee a European timezone as well
No sleep
mmmm
It is not that serious.
It really is that serious.
It’s more boredom than anything
the studio does not need me for ages
And I'm waiting for more film commissions
so I'm literally doing nothing for ages while waiting for uni to uni over
Lore is serious
This is one of the first pieces of ingame lore that we get(I think, excluding the bases).
Although, depending on how quickly I can diagnose my car tomorrow, I might not get on
ah, happened?
if it's something that we can think of it
being the first of it's kind in-game
even if it's small, it'll be pretty big (for us)
Got back from vacation and the battery is completely dead, so I can’t get in and need to find out if I need to replace the battery or the alternator
ah
sounds like fun
When did we ever stop overthinking things? I feel like we overthinked everysingle thing 
Anyway, my break is up, have a good one guys, I’ll probably be on later 👋
lol
see ya soon
cya
have you gotten someone to try jumping it?
Not yet, can’t pop the hood because I’m locked out
oof
i definitely exaggerated myself
but, lore is lore.
I think it's enjoyable and really great that we can share and communicate about it
Especially in the past 3-4 years of being active in this channel.
I'm very thankful we have built a strong micro-community that doesn't need to be me or someone else just talking to themselves 24/7
Yes
in the end
It's actually better in having more minds to theorise about it

The lore server’s existence hinges on that idea lol
I honestly forget that the lore server is a lore server.
I think its more than lore now 
In a good and bad way.
communities grow
the general idea is still there
but we've niched an actual community now
no longer just a group of wacky peoples on one topic
Silliness happens sometimes
lol

Silliness
ello, yeah don't speak much anymore
yeah!
This is my first time seeing another mod other than lunary and Eyeseeyou actually. There are more just hidden in the walls...(Invisible mode)
The more you know 
I just realised
mhm
that's actually really absurdly cool
which seems like Don is referred to GUTS with that
Which... i'm really curious now
what would be the extent of using non-Euclidean geometry in something like this
because non-euclidean geometry is REALLY crazy
but also
I wonder why though? (use it)
I am dumb and dont know much, so
What does non-euclidean geometry do? I thought its some sort of special physics for models.
https://youtu.be/kEB11PQ9Eo8
for any those who don't know
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Aye
i was REALLY interesting in this as a kid learning some computer science
it's a lot of mindf*kry
This will sound goofy but.
Portal 
oh yeah
literally
the most simplest way of using such is portals
mhm
Is this some technique to use less "space" and have more "content"?
which
makes me wonder
the map is 14x14km
roughly
it seems to me Don might want to "cut some of that down"
oh, I was literally about to refer to this
yes
Oh wait, it could be to make GUTS MASSIVE without needing to expand the map, atleast the surface.
nice
i think it's literally Don saying
"GUTS would be literally very boring if you have 14km of walking underground"
And its a lot more than that, so non euclidean geometry will help to deal with it. 
so let's imagine three areas:
K15
I12
Perm
Distance is roughly 8km
Maybe Don would make it 3km between with some "spots" inbetween
If this is what he's going to use for GUTS, he's actually pretty smart
oh yeah
but that all depends on world partition now
without such
GUTS tunnels would still cause some performance issues
but GUTS should be static meshes anyways
so the GUTS, without non-Euclidian, would be the "easier" part
mmmhm
Just to clarify, non-euclidian means that it does spacial contortion stuff right?
Finished watching it, hurts my brain.
But I would love GUTS to be massive and cause people to get lost in them. Atleast beginners.
Only experienced players or people with a map being able to not get lost.
Just things that should be impossible then?
without that geometry, yes
pretty much, haha
Now I wonder if it’s just for gameplay if if there’s explanation for it
i'm guessing just for gameplay
Gameplay likely
I imagine
"in lore" the actual length would be the actual length
but the actual length is just a lot of nothing and boring walks
likely also for better performance as well
if they can make it work
GUTS ~ nether travel
#isle-lore-theories message
This is cool as well
Programmers working on Humans basically after this update drops
and Visual doing the hard work for GUTS
HOPING it can try and come out together
YES
now to go to lorecord and discuss potential spawn locations for the lore hunt
Makes entrances a solid spot to set up ambushes
Lets talk about that hunting lodge style thing that was brought up that one time
Also, NV goggles and IR mutations, totally forgot that commercial nv is different from military nv, it’s basically just a flashlight that shines IR light
I found out that.......
Found what out?
Anyone got any lore theories
I have several
Theory number one, the broken fences were cause by humans entering the island or leaving the island, not by dinosaurs
ye makes alot of sense since there is no creature that large that would be able to break the fences
are they not called hyper fences
Or hypers 
we call them hyper fences
because they were compared with a hyper rex years ago
||ⁱ ᵃˡˢᵒ ᵐᵉⁿᵗᵃˡˡʸ ʳᵉᶠᵉʳ ᵗᵒ ᵗʰᵉᵐ ᵃˢ ᵗʰⁱˢ||
Don will the computers in the human structures be usable when playing as human?
honestly
I'm thinking likely no
if yes though
likely won't be versatile
or at least, not complex to any degree
however
i'd love for some sort of complexity
i doubt it would come to that
makes me wonder about the PDAs though
I hope they would be usable but all it would have is like Apollo files etc
if they'll actually be useable at all
I imagine it might be connected to aspects like this
https://youtu.be/Bc1QNXK_XOM
Ye
in terms of the computer system
maybe with files within?
which i would really love to see in-game though
Ye me too
if you can connect Trail Cams to your "base"
i would love to be able to connect to it from a computer
Hope that there would be like old trucks and cars that humans can drive would be sick ngl
mmmm
Also i know when the isle lore will be completely finished
damn!
Its when my dog will come back to life
oh
i believe we'll be able to
At least, it's planned
heck, there might be performance issues
so who knows
but the idea is basically that those types of vehicles would be playable
Good would be so funny if u could run over people and they actually take damage or die
lol
Would also be cool if there was drones u could pilot from the computers
Anyways lets actually talk about lore lol
great question
Wait is legacy and evrima in the same universe
yes and no
How both?
no - not in the same universe
yes - some ideas have been put into Evrima's lore, and some may come in as well. But some things have been 100% unconfirmed and canned
Ok dat makes sense
mmm
Legacy is basically retconned for the most part
It ain't canon
I’m very curious about how gen 1’s sacrificing works, I’d assume there’s a designated area, but if the replicator sees everything, it could be a few visible areas
What if the replicator is programmed to reward survival, and it thinks killing other things aids your survival, and gen 1 caught on to this and now ises it to their advantage, trying to kill as many things in front of the replicator?
I thought "sacrificing to the replicator" implies the replicator consumes the sacrifice, not just sees it
Maybe, but that’s never been clarified
So it would probably be at a place that provides access to the replicator or one of its annexes
Possibly a giant meat grinder ?
Could be, but also wouldn’t necessarily need to be that, there’s also the question of how does sacrificing help the replicator?
I was thinking last night - what if Gen 1's whole schtick was mutations? Like they have more mutations than others and it affects their visual appearance more drastically?
And then the "tributes" to the replicator enable this
I don’t think it’ll affect appearance, but yes, I agree with that idea
the appearance thing just comes from Don saying there will be different types of Gen 1
Yeah, but I could have sworn the appearance thing was just a customization thing
idk it was just a fun idea 

the cannibal spookyhuman idea, that wasnt a fever dream, right? was that deep lore not-yet-implemented, or ois iot canned stuff?
Gen 1 is planned
I still mad over the fact Dondi gave you and David secret cannibal concept art but I didn't get it although I was in the conversation too
I'm gonna uninstall The Isle and leave a negative review because of this
Hwhat
YES! thats so cool! thank you for the respinse and pretty art.. I love this creatures asthetic
Maybe it wasn't you in the conversation ?
What secret gen 1 concepts 
excited shuffling ...eeeeee~
The ones I don't have because I wasn't deemed worthy
Was it that sneak peak thing that we got before the full concept was released?
Afaik it's something that has never been released publicly yet

First I’ve heard of it
David the petits pieds dude?
Now I’m curious
Hello chat of the crazy people 👋 cerato is trying to convince me that you guys are having civilized convos
We are! Just scroll up and compare this chat to isle discussion 
I don't intend to stay or talk in here ! Idk why I am even typing in here 😅
He’s lying
Yea I guessed so
IM TRYING TO DRAG HIM INTO THE LORE!!
Sir that is not going to happen
TheSirato 
We know they have an altar
Still?
I mean
It was only said so a few years ago
If that's not canon any more
Then we can't rely on stuff like them sacrificing other things
So far we only know of gen 2 sacrifice for sure, I think
I thought the replicator picks favorites and requires some sort of body for creation of another creature
Gen 2 sacrifice?
Sacrificing gen 2
Replicator does play favorites, but we don’t know why it needs sacrifices
Or rather, why things are sacrificed to it
biomass
tbh I can't think of another reason the replicator would need corpses, and it would need a source of biomass for its replications
To make friends
What if it’s not about the corpses
Is there a map with the hyper fences?
@hexed forge has one I believe
invite me to the lore
server rq I have alot of stuff
related ot human builds
Let me check with mods rq
Current fences are not colored, you can see them. But the lines with colors are the fence predictions, the most valid guess is the fence prediction on the right of this picture. Left side is... eh.
Soon there will be a day of Don giving us more fence lore 
As the days go by, the left side seems more and more unlikely.
Keep the south side fence free 
The NW side will likely have a fence to prevent dinosaurs from going to the human area 
The human area being, West Access and NW ridge.
Smthn like this perhaps?
Not a fan

I really have no other information, you have more information than me that counterpoints my theory.
The information that I dont even know 
I have a theory with very little substance, it’s just a hunch based around things we don’t know
The aisle
break them open to release the EIP?
Isle The
MUST CYCLE
Wdym
Oh wait thats a whole diff topic
yes
yay
different topic from the aisle
Damn
I’m thinking it’s more about the action, rather than the result
Little did we know
The stigmatised evil Ai that breached it's existence from AE
Is actually the good guy
the act of killing?
Perhaps
a message sent to AE!!
That’s what I’m sayin
it's just trying to speedrun us through the thousand lives contract
forced evolution?
Depends on what the thousand life contract is
Instant /slay in order to get through the lives quickly, clearly whats happening.
but it's not dependent on reproductive survivability...
We know it’s already somewhat to that extent
then why not just release a plague?
do note though
Dasharkmasta
“Sacrifice stuff to replicator, replicator rewards you, sacrifice your body to replicator, come back better/strongerThousand life contract and all”
Dondi
“Yes, yes, no, yes.No.”
It’s more beneficial to have natural reproduction for the animals though
No = not your body?
Don removes the connection between 1000 life contract with sacrificing
yes
No sacrifice body to replicator?
it's AE's body
your body
So we keep our body after the contract is over?
this is about sacrificing to the replicator
It’s not about the contract
from what we know as well
We know Gen1s can temp abduct Humans (Gen2s)
We know they do the "sacrificing" on altars
I presume either we have both sacrificing Gen2s and fellow Gen1s
The less assumptions we make about things the better, and we assume a lot about the thousand life contract
To be fair, an altar doesn’t have to be complicated, nor does it need to be a permanent structure
I like the idea of gen 1 dragging some poor soul to the nearest camera, setting up some bones, and executing them in front of the replicator
Are you getting the idea from the concept art?
Abraham the gen 1
yes
Partially
I am Gen2
literally isaac
wrong mythology 
art DOES NOT LIE
some might say-
I just meant Greek instead of...
He speaks the truth
that's fun
to be fair
we know the abstract diagram from ERRANT-291 is basically a replication from the Jewish Tree of Life
oh that thing in evangelion?
tied to kabbalah right?
yes
This seems quite interesting as well
as the older version I got to see, which I can't share, is completely different in the organisation
older version of what?
of the diagram
Cosmopolitan AE religion 
Abraham was in chat?
someone is trolling me...
