isle-lore-theories

[lethal moat]

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[fast forge]

I'm really glad I made this

[lethal moat]

It’s fun and silly and lore accurate

[pine owl]

theres 12278799 dibbles?!?!?

[lethal moat]

There’s that many tracking chips, that one was in a dibble the died tragically

[pine owl]

let me guess

Omni?

[fast forge]

yeah it's in the picture

[rapid chasm]

found out

The revolver in the devblogs is

Korth NXS Eight-Shot look alike

[lethal moat]

Neato

[acoustic osprey]

That specific slide format itself was the first of its kind
Nothing really alike in the augustus video

[fast forge]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

So we don't really know if it's an introduction card or just a talking point card

[lethal moat]

Tartarus decided it was going to be different and show up somewhere that doesn’t seem especially relevant given what footage we currently have

[hexed forge]

What are the chances of that slide just being the "tartarus relocation" slide.

The Dibble video does contain some slides from the Augustus report.

Could be that the tartarus relocation warning is given to every single report that is at a high level of clearence

[opaque maple]

What’s the name of the company?

AE

[sonic rampart]

Apollo Engineering

[opaque maple]

Thx

Where did you figure that out?

[lethal moat]

I believe it was loading screens

[fast forge]

#isle-phase-three

[fast forge]

Was there always a tunnel entrance here? (red dot on map)

I'm pretty sure it was...

[hexed forge]

Yes

[grand sigil]

oh

thats an interesting theory

[hexed forge]

Ignore the distribution point part

[lethal moat]

It’s propaganda time

[hexed forge]

Thats clear a... HYPO

[fast forge]

Are all of those red dots tunnel entrances that are currently in-game?

[hexed forge]

3 of those arent ingame, but fair predictions.

[fast forge]

which 3 are the ones you picked?

[hexed forge]

These 2 and

this

One of those 3 were on old gateway however.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mlp-they-will-never-find-the-body-gif-9141996

[valid geyser]

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, kinda forgot this existed lol
so hard to find

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cooper-howard-fallout-thumbs-up-fallout-tv-vault-tec-gif-6009891785160118102

Tartarus is a bit quirky in lore videos

if Tartarus is part of or contains a containment aspect
I wouldn't be surprised that one of the presentation slides would refer to Tartarus

[fast forge]

Could also be an updated version of the security warning that references Tartarus previously

[acoustic osprey]

there's a lot of words
if it was a security warning, that is

but there's definitely a potential that "X" dibbles were taken down to Tartarus after the injection test finished
potentially always something they can work on for the next injection

[fast forge]

certainly

[acoustic osprey]

or if Tartarus still has a creation-aspect to such
Tartarus could be used to refer to such. But I doubt Tartarus, if containing anything on creation, would create such light things.

[hexed forge]

hey

Can you check DMs when you are available

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[hexed forge]

Aw

[lethal moat]

We go bananas for tartarus, I hope that means they won’t just stick it in everywhere if it doesn’t need to be though, just to get a reaction out of us

[fast forge]

it was VERY well hidden in the dibble video, I think it was only a frame or two?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

Agenda setting time:
What would other Islands owned by AE be like?

[acoustic osprey]

well
if AE want's a wider collection of potential islands to test in a mildly free-range environment

something like a more Temperate island would fit

[hexed forge]

Cold tundra biome would be cool too

[acoustic osprey]

cool but a bit plain

you can't have one biome on an island anyways
so anything more "cool and cold" would be interesting

as cool as Perm having Redwoods
it would fit a lot more sense on having it on a temperate island

but
the contrast made from having Redwoods on Perm on Gateway is still a pretty good idea

[fast forge]

In terms of purpose, we've got manufactured dinos so there's probably an island with them in cow pens just to breed up a population of them. We got a hint of this with the dibble's high generation number prior to injection

[ripe plank]

Does AE higher veterinary for their captured dinosaurs

[fast forge]

Captured?

[ripe plank]

The ones in the island i mean

Lore wise

[fast forge]

Hard to say, it really depends what AE is trying to do with the dinosaurs. If they are trying to recreate some kind of natural ecosystem or study natural population dynamics, probably not.

Outside of that scenario, perhaps? It wouldn't be surprising if the dinosaurs are expensive to make, and thus they'd want them to be well-cared for.

That being said, the overall vibe to me seems like option #1 - they just let the dinos out there and see what they do

[ripe plank]

Thats a good point tons of worth of money down the drain

Unless they are very huge organizations

[fast forge]

Well by traditional measures a cloned animal is expensive, but it might not be expensive for AE when they have the Replicator. Hard to say

[ripe plank]

The replicator
I forgot it was a thing

[fast forge]

Even if they just kinda release the dinos and let nature take its course, I'm sure a facility the size of Gateway would have at least a few veterinarians on staff, even if they don't get used on the wild animals much

There would almost certainly be captive animals to take care of

Animals in holding, animals slated for research, animals being transported from one location to another, stuff like that

[lethal moat]

Since we know not all three factions were all on the same island at the same time, I would expect other islands to potentially cater towards either gen 1 or gen 2, maybe both

[fast forge]

Do Gen 2 really need a whole island? I imagine it would just be a boot camp and classroom facilities - testing physical and mental aptitude

And then barracks/housing

[lethal moat]

Might not even be an island in the traditional sense, very well could be a floating or secured industrial platform like an oil rig or a large boat

[fast forge]

I just figure it's one facility on one island, but those other options are cool too

[lethal moat]

Repurposed oil rigs are interesting

[lethal moat]

Don, if you pop down here, could you say something that makes us ask more questions?

[hexed forge]

Nnononono!

Alright so the topic was maps/islands.

Perhaps AE has an arctic base? Researching in cold enviornements..

Possible arctic/tundra map?

[lethal moat]

To test the massive kelp, if they intend for it to spread, it would make sense for them to test a large variation of environments

[hexed forge]

mhm

[hexed forge]

A good question would be

F5

[lethal moat]

I don’t think we have enough information to formulate anything solid on that atm

[fast forge]

I asked him, he straight said we aren't gonna be able to figure it out for a while

[hexed forge]

Its the port isnt it

[fast forge]

playing devil's advocate, he might just mean he's on non-hordetest

But I'm hopfeul

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

I have always thought the weird flat open area among those trees looks like a place for future stuffs

[hexed forge]

Thats- Thats what I meant

[fast forge]

this one

not sure if a whole building would go there, but maybe some construction stuff, vehicles, storage containers - kinda like the nearby watchtower

[lethal moat]

A full sized warehouse with large stacks of boxes sounds really fun to me

[fast forge]

and the coast on the other size of those trees is really jagged and unfinished, so clearly an area still in progress

idk why but I love map changes

I suppose I just really like Gateway as a video game map, and that makes me excited for future updates

[lethal moat]

A lot of anticipation for it

[fast forge]

I was quite happy with the QoL update changes, and even noticed some little stuff on hordetest (rocks around river delta dam, for example)

[lethal moat]

Any and all good progress is progress

That was a stupid statement lol

[fast forge]

I figured you were just being silly, but you outed yourself

[lethal moat]

What would strain herbivores be like? Hyper is obviously tanky, and neuro would probably just control it’s predators to make itself less appealing, and we don’t know enough about Tisso

[hexed forge]

Everyone loves them

If you asked me what the previous QoL patch was about I would probably say

Map changes
New MZ
New sanc
uh what else

[hexed forge]

Poisonous body

Porcupine

[fast forge]

Lighting, ambient audio, bug fixes

[hexed forge]

Oh yea

Well bug fixes is obvious ofc

But I forgot about the lighting completely lol

[fast forge]

yeah lighting is way better

and the ambient sound

[hexed forge]

CAMERA CHANGE!

Another one

[fast forge]

Right? No one talked about it, most didn't notice it

I think it's that you can't zoom out from the default spot, that's just the starting camera spot now

I know I found myself zooming out every time I started a new dino

[fast forge]

New MZ?

[hexed forge]

South Plains Coast

[fast forge]

nvm what I just wrote

South Plains Coast? I haven't seen that one I think

[hexed forge]

This

[fast forge]

ohhh that coast, that was already an MZ for sure

[hexed forge]

Its with the new sanctuary, Im surprised you didnt notice it since its one of the most common MZs for dibble rn

[fast forge]

I thought you meant the south coast

no it was already an MZ, but no one went there

[hexed forge]

huh

I swear it was new, it wasnt there before 100%

Oh f, I screwed up the question. Dumb brain.

I meant to say

When was the first time you were at the MZ?

[fast forge]

So I used to go there frequently for turtles as ptera and herrera

[hexed forge]

When tho

Was it before the QoL HT? Before Dilo update

[fast forge]

I made this video 2 months ago about the area

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7YFTweYpiE&t=6s

[fast forge]

yes definitely before QoL

It was just a boring place on the edge of the map so herbis never went there

[hexed forge]

Hm so before

[lethal moat]

I stand by not knowing enough about tisso

[hexed forge]

I guess people only found out about the MZ because of south plains becoming the hotspot

[fast forge]

yes, everyone was in the east

This is a coconut palm that was in an MZ, 3 months ago

[fast forge]

I'm fine with waiting on a good thing

I feel like we are still getting the foundations, and that's like, level 20 stuff

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[fast forge]

Not that I wouldn't appreciate that stuff, of course, but I just see it as an "in due time" kinda thing

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[autumn pine]

New patch any better?

[fast forge]

wrong channel

[hexed forge]

Okay so we are getting a lore drop soon, what could it be?

[valid geyser]

Lore??

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[hexed forge]

Yes, I wish he told us what its related to.

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

Probably something to do with the isle

[valid geyser]

Maybe..

[hexed forge]

Oh... I thought it was going to be about Pokemon..

[fast forge]

60% sure it's this

[lethal moat]

I want structure stuff or more documents, in game stuff would be nice but videos always give so much info

[valid geyser]

I dunno it could be something elseeeee

[patent ginkgo]

Could be related to other factions, gen 2 and gen 1 specifically

[pseudo fable]

[hexed forge]

Punch did say Seiza is working on a lot of projects

[limber frigate]

I’m curious about this development news

[hexed forge]

Perhaps a video

[pseudo fable]

It will be in game and out of game.

[patent ginkgo]

Tartarus?

[valid geyser]

In game and out of game…

[acoustic osprey]

Very nice

[fast forge]

oh?

[hexed forge]

Elaborate, ingame structure?

Port !!

[fast forge]

in game QR code

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[pseudo fable]

I'll elaborate on nothing. When it's there, it's there. When it's found, it's found. When it's solved, it will no doubt be posted.

[hexed forge]

Rick roll QR link

[hexed forge]

Oooo, we gotta find it

[pseudo fable]

But it will be in the hordetests before diabloceratops goes to evrima.

[patent ginkgo]

This is good

[fast forge]

now that's a clue

[lethal moat]

Yall know what that means, I’ll be sending that one image a lot more often henceforth

[valid geyser]

Will there be some vague message to hint at its arrival? Or will it be silently thrown at the hordetesting

[valid geyser]

[patent ginkgo]

Yes, rumple

[acoustic osprey]

Ah
So it's soon to be done
Guess we have a scav hunt

[hexed forge]

So, something not ingame, and something ingame.

[limber frigate]

Like a scavenger hunt don

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Assemble the teams in lorecord

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

We gotta organize the gateway exploration team

[patent ginkgo]

Finally

[acoustic osprey]

Aye!!

[lethal moat]

We had them for awhile, but it’s easier and more efficient to just let loose the floodgates

[patent ginkgo]

Our time has come

[fast forge]

We could divide up the map if needed...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-funny-gif-21548565

[lethal moat]

If it’s good eating, I image we’ll find it pretty quick

[hexed forge]

Its more effiecient to assign groups to go to a specific area no? Because there is a big chance that we might just go to the same place accidentally.

[patent ginkgo]

Galli time

[hexed forge]

We all think the same

[fast forge]

tbh I often just fly around as ptero lookin for stuff

[lethal moat]

Split it into 4s, though I have a hunch it’s the spot he mentioned earlier

[hexed forge]

PORT!!!!

[lethal moat]

Possibly

[limber frigate]

Is that a good thing

[hexed forge]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Just note this

[lethal moat]

We need as many different views as possible

[fast forge]

we had an update since then...

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt it'll be a specific building
Potentially something within

[fast forge]

well I'm headed east...

[hexed forge]

Isaac check lorecord ping.

[patent ginkgo]

Could be lore documents

[hexed forge]

Im about to split the map into 4 different areas.

[lethal moat]

We’re going to see a GUTS tunnel or maybe some of those vats?

[fast forge]

to explore now? it might not even be in yet

[valid geyser]

Yeah he said in hordetesting before dibble releases to live, not that it’s already in

[hexed forge]

No, later.

[lethal moat]

My largest fear is that it’ll be in the jungle where we can’t see it easily from above and we’ll have to send gallis in through the roads

Or it’ll be within an existing structure and we’ll have to comb over things we already know

[patent ginkgo]

Galli search seems like the best idea

[fast forge]

yeah that's why I'm thinking splitting the map up isn't necessary yet - scan from the air first

[patent ginkgo]

We can have pteras scanning from the air, gallis coming the ground, and anything else checking the structures

[lethal moat]

Dondi said lore one time and now look ar us lol

[valid geyser]

A mixture of both could be nice, the pteradons scout for the most part with gallis running and checking jungles

[hexed forge]

Horrible sections, but it will work.

[limber frigate]

Lolol

[fast forge]

he did more than that, he came in and gave us some hints

[acoustic osprey]

We have to wait for the next patch I'm presuming?

[lethal moat]

I’ve got tuesday off work, we’ll see how many updates we get between now and then

[patent ginkgo]

Likely

[hexed forge]

yes, I think Dondi will hopefully tell us when it gets added(He wont)

[lethal moat]

Sometime between now and end of hordetest

[acoustic osprey]

From the tense don used
I'm guessing next update or next+

Not this one

[fast forge]

The way he worded it, it could have been today's patch and we just haven't found it yet

[lethal moat]

Want an invite to the lore server? We can show you a ton of neat stuff there

[hexed forge]

You just accidently pinged him

[fast forge]

dang, sorry don

[valid geyser]

What a “subtle” way to try and drag him back…

[fast forge]

no I was just being a fool

[hexed forge]

(It was the plan)

[patent ginkgo]

Destroyed

[limber frigate]

Yeah I could be way out of my league when it comes to lore and stuff but I just came by to see what was happening and up

[acoustic osprey]

But this though
Tiny

[patent ginkgo]

Anyway, I unfortunately need to sleep, see y’all later

[fast forge]

When it's there it's there could mean it's there now

[valid geyser]

Solved…
Geuueaaughhh

[hexed forge]

I am horrible at mapping.

[acoustic osprey]

"When"
Isn't the new update out already?

[lethal moat]

Fair, it’s just fun and some of us get pretty invested

[limber frigate]

That’s the best part so far XD

[fast forge]

It probably isn't in yet, but the way everything is worded I can't say it can't be in yet

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[hexed forge]

I dont think its in yet, since with it, there is also something coming that isnt ingame. Could be a document or a video.

[acoustic osprey]

Mmm

[fast forge]

I'm not saying we should go wild searching yet, but Imma check some things...

[acoustic osprey]

Still have that to note though
It's both in and out game

I'm thinking potential YouTube link to some lore?

[lethal moat]

I take that to mean after he sees we found and explored it, he’ll give us some stuff here

[fast forge]

Probably a #isle-phase-three document that has something to do with a new building or something? idk

[valid geyser]

Far fetched but I’d check places that we know would’ve been coming anywho
Or we saw hints of, stuff like GUTS
(I’m hoping my lore knowledge is checking out right)

[lethal moat]

I’m betting monorail, GUTS, or a dock

[valid geyser]

Haha i beat you to GUTS

[fast forge]

monorail is something I'd really like to see

well all three of those, a lot

[limber frigate]

We all have guts

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[lethal moat]

The tunnels

[valid geyser]

Shhh

[hexed forge]

A map of X facility perhaps

Maybe an incident report that includes the map of X facility.

[limber frigate]

The tunnel into Mordor…

[lethal moat]

Gondor calls for aid

[fast forge]

maybe Perimeter is unlocked...

[hexed forge]

[limber frigate]

Or you mean Dondi calls for aid

[lethal moat]

Nah, we do a lot of begging and he does a lot of carrot on a stick

[hexed forge]

In short

He answers our questions with questions that makes our brains not process.

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

If its something to do with a human structure, assigning groups to go to certain parts of the map would be more effiecient no?

[lethal moat]

We get some legitimate answers and those make us rethink other things

[lethal moat]

It’ll be found within a day of being out even if we don’t actively organize to look for it

[hexed forge]

Alr

[fast forge]

you say that but no one seemed to be searching for Cannibalistic until I got it

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Fair

[fast forge]

people got their dibble and were distracted

[crystal cairn]

ngl this just activated a certain neuron for me

[lethal moat]

Ikr, we know it will be both in and out of game, and people are starting to organize search parties

[hexed forge]

Neuron activation: Lore

[lethal moat]

We’ll hold off the mutations podcast episode until we find this or until just before the month is over

[fast forge]

tbh give that fruit some time to ripen

[lethal moat]

Probably with elders and more mutation stuff in the future

[crystal cairn]

gonna make a lore-hunter herrera (reabsorption, hunger slow drain, free space) and prepare to go hunting

picking those mutations so I can spend more time exp-lore-ing

[fast forge]

saltwater ptera

[hexed forge]

Thats very smart

Only problem would be when AI betrays you and doesnt spawn.

[crystal cairn]

I mean I know my limits and when I'll need to handle those things

do NOT put negativity into my exp-lore-ing adventures

[lethal moat]

I believe in you

[hexed forge]

And then the server crashes randomly, causing your saltwater mutation to bug out

And then you break your leg due to lag..

[fast forge]

BLUE

[hexed forge]

Green

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/makeitpink-make-it-pink-sleepingbeauty-gif-25813706

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/touch-the-butt-finding-nemo-seahorse-gif-15439341

[pulsar kraken]

Does anybody have a clue what continent the Gateway maps is on?

[patent ginkgo]

Currently we don’t know, all we know is that it’s in the tropical zone of whatever version of earth it’s on

However, common theories are Southeast Asia or near central/South America

[pulsar kraken]

✅

[lethal moat]

If we knew where gateway was, we could generate more discussion on secrecy and transportation

Would nearby shipping lanes hear the apexes on the island? How often do people go by? Would survivors of a shipwreck wash up ok the shores

[fast forge]

nah I don't even think an elder rex call would travel far across the ocean. Dinosaurs are big but the ocean is GIANT - they'd have to get pretty close to the island to hear anything

[lethal moat]

If it’s a popular shipping lane, it could cause problems

Tall tales of ocean monsters in that part of the water

[scarlet verge]

I'd imagine they probably have it zoned off. Like a no-fly zone, but for boats

Depending on cooperation levels with other governments

[maiden sundial]

Probably very zoned off

[fast forge]

The thing is, I don't think modern shipping lanes get very close to any islands, mostly due to the danger of hidden sandbars and reefs. Like maybe a couple miles offshore? I figure they might see the islands in the distance, but I doubt a rex call is going that far over open ocean

[fast forge]

water creatures on the other hand... well we don't really know what AE was cooking up in that regard

We've been told the blue fence is not canon but the animals stay with the island, so I don't even know if oceanic animals would get that far out. My personal theory is that they are unable to leave the range of their radio transmitters for whatever reason

Or if they are actually AE employees, they may just not want to go that far out

If there was accidental exposure with the outside world, I imagine it's more likely to be air travel - a plane gets lost, is low on fuel, and has to make an emergency stop on Gateway

But I know even less about how that stuff works so idk

I suppose I can't say it's impossible, but it seems unlikely someone will hear an animal call from a shipping lane. An accident or emergency situation seems more likely - a ship gets too close and crashes on a reef, or has to make an emergency stop

[lethal moat]

JP 3

[scarlet verge]

I guess it depends where the island is located. There's a ton of uncharted, uninhabited smaller islands in the Pacific that could be really far away from any shipping lanes

And if it's an island created because of volcanos, the waters off the island (past the blue dome) could get really deep, really fast which would discourage the animals from leaving

[fast forge]

I don't even remember the plot of that movie - there's a plane crash, right?

[fast forge]

I believe Don has hinted at a deeper reason why the animals don't/can't leave, which is what leads me to the radio transmission idea

[scarlet verge]

They went parasailing and came unhooked and flew off into the island

[scarlet verge]

I hope we get more this week!

[fast forge]

He heavily hinted we'll get more lore in the next several days

Well really he just said it, didn't hint

[scarlet verge]

Yeah I saw that, I'm just wondering if it'll be a new building added or if they'll be opening back up the domes

[fast forge]

I really don't know, A dome would be cool but getting them to player-ready status is probably a lot of work (especially if they have unique biomes inside), and with everything else the devs have been doing recently I don't know if they'd have had time for all of that

[scarlet verge]

Yeah that's true. But the dome was open at the release of gateway and it's been a few months. They wouldn't have to open everything, just portions of it. Like maybe where it connects to the river or just the tunnels with the trucks in it. That could just be basic pathways and wouldn't need too much detail (I say as a non-dev). But it would be lore related because it could lead deeper into the domes which would just fuel more Tartarus theories. Or it could be adding the monorail back

[fast forge]

They did change the textures of the domes in hordetest, they are now see-through (not perimeter)

[scarlet verge]

Ah, I tend to try to stay away from the domes lol

[fast forge]

#isle-discussion message

[scarlet verge]

Oh interesting. I totally missed that. I'm planning on getting on tonight so I'll go check it out

[hexed forge]

Some textures are broken sadly

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fast forge]

Oh yeah and perimeter doesn't have the transparent glass yet, last I checked

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ter32UOCzFw Finally did it

[grand sigil]

RRAAAARRGGHH

LORE

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hai-gif-10567033442484308038

If any of you have any feedback, that would be very helpful for my next project.

[lethal moat]

What do you guys think of the idea of gateway or other islands being close to popular shipping routes and the accidents sometimes effect gateway, or that sailors would hear the isle’s larger inhabitants and make stories if sea monsters, no basis yet, but it would be cool

[hexed forge]

I doubt AE would pick a spot that is close to a popular shipping route

[lethal moat]

Would make resupplies easier

Plus, like I said, it’s just for fun and could be cool

[hexed forge]

How tho? 🤔

[lethal moat]

No fear of pirates and preplanned routes would theoretically make weather a bit more predictable

[hexed forge]

Why would AE be afraid of pirates, what kind of technology does AE have to protect their own ships

[kindred bobcat]

very good video, but DNS is a acronym for wifi stuff, maybe youd like to change it both so it doesnt get confused and so it doesnt get drowned on youtube by DNS gudies

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

General shipping has to fear pirates, and that makes “normal” resupplies a lot easier

[kindred bobcat]

also whats olympus again

[hexed forge]

Theorized to be the HQ of AE

[lethal moat]

The US Navy tends to patrol shipping lanes when not on specific missions

[kindred bobcat]

and when you say going to tartarus, do you mean like being sent to work as a D class there

[lethal moat]

I’ll watch your video when tomorrow when youtube actually works Cerato

[hexed forge]

So basically, AE using normal shipping lines for basic supplies. And some of the more secret stuff, they use more unkown directions and perhaps those ships are armed?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

No- Tartarus isnt what you think it is.

[kindred bobcat]

isnt it with all the hypos

or strains

[hexed forge]

We arent sure ourselves, but popular theories suggest it being a testing facility yeah

[kindred bobcat]

so then youd be sent as forced worker/test subject in there?

[hexed forge]

Maybe

Oh well, now that I look back, yes I guess it could be counted under "D-Class prisoner"

[lethal moat]

We have an official record of sharing privileged information resulting in Tartarus relocation

[kindred bobcat]

yeah thats what i mean, if you sent there as a punishment you are porbably not going to be a high value worker and more like fresh test meat or smt

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[kindred bobcat]

id reckon AE sends all the ships with arm guards, its not like they care all to much about PR from what ive read, and that was the big issue with armed guards on civi ships for the past couple of years

[patent ginkgo]

very nice

[lethal moat]

Why wouldn’t they care about PR?

[hexed forge]

Not all ships

[kindred bobcat]

mega corp gone bad, cramped cages for dinos, not much regard for worker saftey as what i can see, testing crazy strains on human(ik legacy lore but its not like that wont come back). Armed guards on ships is their least concern id say

[lethal moat]

It’s coming back, but questionable practices doesn’t mean they’re evil, and ideally their PR move would be to stop everyone from knowing they exist

Armed guards on ships are not bad and wouldn’t be out of place, but I imagine Apollo has a good PR team if they’re large

And keeping as much of what goes on on the islands as possible secret would likely take priority over being honest with the public

Tell them that Apollo Pharmaceuticals North has a prototype vaccine on the ship or better yet just pretend it’s a normal ship and keep the guards there

[kindred bobcat]

if they can sweep some entire linages being "removed", human mutants i think arm guards on boats wouldnt be that hard

as you said bascially

[lethal moat]

Define lineage

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
We know they have Sweep teams and checkpoint teams

We know many of those who sign up understand what they have signed up for
Especially those under EIPs

So either you conform to your rulebreak
Or "X" team is sent to collect and redistribute

[lethal moat]

I do not think that security teams as we imagine them will be what we see on gateway, I think they’ll be weaker with a larger focus on avoidance rather than confrontation

[acoustic osprey]

We still have guns on the islands

You'll still have to confront if "X" goes wrong

[lethal moat]

I see that as more of a last resort, like in Jurassic Park, where most of them had to go to an emergency shelter to get weapons

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
I don't see having sentinels as confrontation though

I'd imagine most aspects would be guarded to some degree

[lethal moat]

I like to think of dinosaurs like bears

[acoustic osprey]

Specifically for these guys

[lethal moat]

You don’t shoot them to get them away from things, you either stay inside or do what that type of bear is afraid of to get them away

[fast forge]

Remember that AE is an agriculture company, not skynet - they'll probably have pretty average security on their international ships, just like any other company

[lethal moat]

I still don’t think those are a permanent designated position

[acoustic osprey]

They started in botany and went to food!!

[hexed forge]

They likely expanded into something more

[acoustic osprey]

Why not? It would be heavily unreliable to not have any sort of regulated security system like that

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-cabbages-gif-5990800

[fast forge]

Yeah but my point is they aren't some paramilitary group armed to the teeth as a show of force - they just use whatever is needed

[hexed forge]

Security would be needed

[lethal moat]

Would a highly trained team lose 1/3 of their groups on a single search?

[fast forge]

depends how bad piracy is at that particular point in time, or part of the world

[hexed forge]

Depends on what the search mission is

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
If you don't know what it is

Likely yes

[hexed forge]

^

[lethal moat]

If they have guns, what will reasonably kill an entire group

[acoustic osprey]

It's no military operation
But, like government houses, you need security for some aspects

[fast forge]

that's still AE vs dinos/gen 1/replicator/whatever
not
AE vs sea pirates

[acoustic osprey]

A strained creature could
Heck, something hidden
Not even AE could describe what happened

We don't know the time of day
It was likely in a tunnel, so darker

[fast forge]

A pack of raptors could kill an entire group, wdym

[acoustic osprey]

And guards don't need to be heavily militarised

[lethal moat]

I don’t think if guns and gun materials will be rare, that armed security teams populated the island

[hexed forge]

^

[fast forge]

I think they probably have decent weaponry just by virtue of some of the animals that are roaming around, but no more than is necessary (because of costs)

[acoustic osprey]

Never said they would populate to the point of being an abundance

But having a few teams over the island sounds the most secure

We're not just working with animals

[hexed forge]

^ (I have no idea what to say rn, just agreeing with what Isaac is saying)

[fast forge]

Probably posted to specific locations, with local sweeps

[acoustic osprey]

From the 291 document, I agree on that front

[hexed forge]

And Dondi did say there are aggro external companies right? Would make sense.

[lethal moat]

I’m not a big supporter of security teams to deal with animals

[fast forge]

it just makes the most sense

[hexed forge]

Why animals only 🤔

[lethal moat]

Seems excessive and expensive

[acoustic osprey]

But they're not just animals

[lethal moat]

They are in the videos we’ve seen

[acoustic osprey]

I'd find having military control over an island excessive

But security guards?

[kindred bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-burn-flame-gif-5042503

[acoustic osprey]

G1s
And strains still exist

[hexed forge]

Security guards are needed to prevent any spies/traitors? Look at the errant sheet for example.

[acoustic osprey]

Larger and more cautious creatures

[lethal moat]

I am not a believer, just sayin

[acoustic osprey]

We also have enclosures as well
So bottlenecks for security risks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/clever-girl-raptor-jurassic-park-clever-dinosaur-gif-16307907

[lethal moat]

I don’t trust AE’s capacity for firepower beyond their more dangerous assets

[acoustic osprey]

Hence why no military presence

But having dedicated security guards isn't the same as having trained military men

Heck, my father worked in security for a bit

It's a lot of 90% nothing and eating
10% protecting

But when that 10% happens
Such is needed of the guards

[hexed forge]

I assume Capture teams are different from military and security teams?

[lethal moat]

Right, which is why I don’t think there’d be much except for at the docks

[acoustic osprey]

We have the written presence of Sweep and checkpoint teams

[hexed forge]

What about perimeter, and the domes.

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt they'd hotspot their guards onto one place

[hexed forge]

Hell even teams keeping the GUTS enterances in check

[lethal moat]

Checkpoint teams could be for resupplies and sweep could be quickly tossed together

[hexed forge]

Making sure no dinosaur sneaks in or... yk...errant..

[lethal moat]

If it’s the only place people get on, that’s where I’d put it

[fossil nebula]

I think its funny he never just turned the gun to the dinos snoot and pulled trigger, he just stalled and said "clever girl", but who knows, the raptor could of attacked sooner as well as a better ambush lol

[acoustic osprey]

Sweep sounds more dedicated

[fossil nebula]

movies ina nutshell

[acoustic osprey]

We know they would've came from Olympus CC

[lethal moat]

I don’t think so

[acoustic osprey]

Via Zeus Entry

So it would've been, likely, higher ordered teams

[lethal moat]

Sweep team reminds me of search party, they assembled a bunch of people and told them to find an entrance

[hexed forge]

Random employees..?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

That doesnt seem very effiecient

[lethal moat]

Forklift operator dave is basically immortal

[acoustic osprey]

They refer to units as well

So it had to have been prepared prior to such event

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/police-fbi-open-up-searching-raid-gif-17731288

[lethal moat]

Or just recorded

[acoustic osprey]

What do you mean?

If they didn't have an internal unit system

Why refer to such then?

[lethal moat]

They wrote down who was in the groups and assigned them to units, doesn’t necessarily need to be a preplanned thing

[acoustic osprey]

1/3rd of the party have gone MIA

Unit would refer to something more structured

[acoustic osprey]

They didn't though

They just noted three Sweep teams were sent

If anything

Why not say:
"One team was lost/mia"

[hexed forge]

5 forklift operators sent to record a video of the local T-Rex nest

[lethal moat]

Even if sweep teams are pre-structured, that doesn’t mean they were made for security purposes, could be for patrolling enclosures or recovering bodies

[hexed forge]

Patrolling enclosures falls under security tho, no?

[acoustic osprey]

Patrolling would still be a sentienal duty though

[lethal moat]

I’m thinking more for recording changes in population, etc, rather than finding things, like a park ranger at a national park

[hexed forge]

So just normal rangers/vets that take care of the dinosaurs.

[fast forge]

Typically if people are going to be fighting together you want them to feel like a cohesive team

[lethal moat]

More of a wildlife specialist or an environmentalists that double as security when need be

[lethal moat]

Why would they be fighting?

[fast forge]

Because it's dangerous to go out in the jungles of evrima?

[hexed forge]

Capturing a dinosaur

AUGUSTUS for example def needed a Structured plan and team to capture.

[fossil nebula]

Is this all only lore or maybe even gameplay one day, cuz this all leads me to believe some gen 2s will spawn with gear, and have an objective at time of spawn, probably far away from santuaries and the only way to those areas would be dense jungles and wilderness full of FG anything, so youd be spawning with gear and a mission but proabably going to die trying your mission, or just exploring.

Or this is all just lore lmao

[lethal moat]

I’d avoid killing the (potentially) expensive asset if at all possible

[fast forge]

I see that missing sweep team as a kinda normal thing for teams that have to go out into the animal enclosures

[hexed forge]

I dont think they would just send out a team of scientists and tell them "Dinosaur that can climb is on the loose in H5, go catch em, idc how"

[hexed forge]

You dont need to kill it

[fast forge]

We still don't know if they are expensive

[lethal moat]

So nonlethal stuff such as rangers would use would be better than actual security weapons correct?

[lethal moat]

I don’t think they’ll spawn with much, maybe a flashlight and a knife

[lethal moat]

We’re talking lore rn

[fossil nebula]

Yeah ingame that'd make sense, ah

I always like correlation lore with gameplay bc it will eventually

[hexed forge]

Security can have a variety of weapons, for example in JW, the security team capturing the Indominus didnt have weaponry that could kill the I-rex.

[lethal moat]

Mutations

[fossil nebula]

Yeap ive heard they finally have come, are mutations only in ST rn?

[lethal moat]

Those security teams were likely more equipped for the tourists and acting as ranger squads for capturing dinosaurs, which is why they were so terrible at bringing down something so dangerous because they were both unprepared and under-equipped

[hexed forge]

But then later in the Movie they show up with F RPGs and real lethal guns right? So they do have a variety of weapons. Their mission before wasnt to kill the I-rex, but now it is.

[lethal moat]

That was an entire different company that was a Private Military Organization

[hexed forge]

oh

Didnt watch JW in 2 years mb

[fast forge]

yeah but I dunno how accurate that movie is about that kind of thing anyway....

[fast forge]

🐴 test

[hexed forge]

But I still believe that security teams can have a variety of weapons, lethal and unlethal.

[pine owl]

Guts?

[lethal moat]

These security teams were more for people, and if they were going after dinosaurs, they were shooting something inside a cage from outside a cage 90% of the time

[hexed forge]

Very low level of GUTS

[pine owl]

let me cross the entire map using guts as bepi pleaseee

[lethal moat]

I agree, but I would call multi-purpose security teams ranger teams rather than summing up all of what they do to protection

[pine owl]

who needs water when you have GUTS

and you can just go one place to another using them

[lethal moat]

I want some sort of underwater river because it would be super cool

[fast forge]

GUTS is probably connected to an underground cave system

[lethal moat]

I’d call it a short portion rather than a low level

[hexed forge]

Its much less advanced than what we saw in Concepts no?

[fast forge]

It might not technically be GUTS just because it's underground. Might just be a tunnel

[hexed forge]

^

[pine owl]

isnt guts literally a massive tunnel system

[hexed forge]

yea

[fast forge]

it's a transport system

[pine owl]

this is EXACTLY what i imagine guts to be

literally the pipes stone walls everything

[lethal moat]

We haven’t really seen concepts, and GUTS isn’t just one thing, it’s Generic Underground Transportation System, if it’s a hole in the ground you use to move stuff, I call it a part of GUTS

[lethal moat]

That’s because it is

[pine owl]

[lethal moat]

@hexed forge before you go find the monorail GUTS concept, thats what I meant by it’s not just one thing

[hexed forge]

But the "Generic Underground Transportation system" Isnt finalized yet, right? Or was it just the term GUTS

[lethal moat]

It’s an unofficial acronym for GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
having people to do "all of the above"
is stressful

[hexed forge]

yeah so I dont think we should use it as a reference.

[acoustic osprey]

especially annoying
for a lot of people who would find themselves in the science-field

being dragged out, completely untrained, to look out for "X" patient or animal or being

[lethal moat]

It describes it well

[acoustic osprey]

if AE has the money
why not used such money for security?

[hexed forge]

But we arent sure yet, it might not be "Generic" might be a whole different word that changes the entire meaning.

[acoustic osprey]

we know they must spend a lot on security monitoring systems

[acoustic osprey]

unofficial official name

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lebowski-the-big-dude-bowling-am-i-wrong-angry-gif-16078957

[lethal moat]

I’m just trying to point out that I wouldn’t call defenses against animals “security” per say, and I don’t think there would be much against actual people potentially until towards when the island was abandoned, but seeing as how we don’t know when 291 takes place, it could be possible

[acoustic osprey]

it's not just security against animals that would be security on the island(s)

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

We know there isn't likely an incident
so to speak

at least, few several incidents of their own

Unless these incidents/events happened day after day

at least, after the first one, would they not want to priotise some sort of security?

however
There would be, also, many people on the islands at a time working on the island

[lethal moat]

I say it depends exactly how secretive AE is, how general is “not the public” when it comes to sharing information

[acoustic osprey]

excluding security teams
You still need security for protection for them

not just including internal aspects
but general security for those, scientists, engineers, etc, who are completely defenceless

i will note again
security =/= military presence

[lethal moat]

Right, but I wouldn’t think that type of security would just have 3 sweep teams on hand

[acoustic osprey]

whilst also working with things that are less animals

[acoustic osprey]

For Gateway
I would definitely say that should be close to mandatory

We have things like Tartarus
Strains and Gen1s which would all bump up the danger level

[lethal moat]

Depends how much EIPs change from legacy

[acoustic osprey]

having more security not only is good for your security

but also good for worker morale

[lethal moat]

I’d chalk that up to either specialized ranger teams or kill squads

[acoustic osprey]

You're working with things in the sci-fi world that barely have meaning, in-lore
You, a worker, should be scared

[acoustic osprey]

we can't say they'll be godzilla-level military aspects for security

that would be extreme

but it would be why we have checkpoint teams and sweep teams

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t want guys with guns around me all the time making sure that anything bad happens is immediately and swiftly punished

[acoustic osprey]

checkpoint teams to regulate flow of traffic between the island sections
specifically from resupply points
alongside to make sure peoples and creatures are all regulated

and sweep teams to deal with more dangerous aspects
uncontrolled assets
and "broken minds"

[lethal moat]

I’d want specific teams assigned to strain stuff

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

if you know your island, that you are working on, is maintained, that is good

I'm not saying having 24/7 500 men at arms walking the streets

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t summarize sweep teams to deal with strains at all, especially since I’m still not convinced their primary directive is security

[acoustic osprey]

I'm not summarising them being for strains though

and sweep teams to deal with more dangerous aspects
uncontrolled assets
and "broken minds"

they sent three teams for ERRANT-291
something was wrong with him/it/her

[lethal moat]

I would definitely want teams specifically equipped to stop strains for the eventuality that it happens

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know if such exists though, of a team dedicated for strains

[lethal moat]

Or it was an intentional infiltrator

[lethal moat]

I think it would be cool, like SCP stuff

[fast forge]

Reminds me of SCP and the unique MTF teams like Tau-5
Well, Samsara is kind of a unique situation...

[acoustic osprey]

to them (AE)
something was "wrong" - hence ERRANT

so sweep teams
which would be more dedicated for more "out of control / unknown" aspects
would and should be sent

which seemed to have been the case

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't mind
but we have nothing on them yet. So that's all speculation.

I would imagine something akin to SW Royal Guards for Strains

[lethal moat]

I don’t think things would go wrong consistently enough for sweep teams to be a consistent designated thing on hand

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
This is a scientific company

things are prone to go wrong
issues seem to happen a lot

looking at Horde being cannonised
Ben
Strains existing
holy wars

[fast forge]

Nah, I bet they do regular security sweeps - with this much proprietary tech you definitely have security covering the whole island consistently

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt a high-profile company, like AE, wouldn't want to pay some money for some guards

[lethal moat]

I still think that was talking about the conversation at hand, not directly to lore

[fast forge]

Horde? Troodon Horde?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/king-baldwin-gif-10960829910342338291

[acoustic osprey]

Hordeings

[fast forge]

?

[acoustic osprey]

The Horde

[fast forge]

I'm confused

[acoustic osprey]

The Horde

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yasirkocak-gif-22017699

[fast forge]

That's it, you people have stood in my way long enough. I'm playing troodon

[lethal moat]

Something going wrong and catastrophically wrong is a fairly fine distinction

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[acoustic osprey]

I still doubt they live in a fairly easy world where nothing goes wrong internally besides the "big things"
especially in the science-field and 'animal'-owning/creating field

[lethal moat]

Right, but I wouldn’t expect things to be catastrophic often

[fast forge]

In science you just have a bunch of failsafes in place so that if something goes bad, everyone follows the plan to minimize harm

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
I don't see it being catastrophy 24/7
but issues do and will always arrive

[acoustic osprey]

that's because you have 100+ years of things to back up on usually

[fast forge]

yes, we've seen just how bad things can get O_o

Reminds me of this youtube channel I watch called "Plainly Difficult"

Videos about bridge collapses, nuclear accidents, train derailments

It's somber stuff, but interesting because he goes into the nitty-gritty

[lethal moat]

Most issues would probably need a HR guy rather than security personnel, I see security people at the Docks a lot more likely than security personnel everywhere

[acoustic osprey]

"i want you to go to, willingly, Tartarus for me. Thanks"

[lethal moat]

Move people from the docks or get them on their way out

I don’t think people security will be near as prevalent as dinosaur security (ranger teams)

[lethal moat]

But I would, get me in there

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[lethal moat]

Gimmie

[fast forge]

I wonder what that big lore thing will be...

Probably a location, and not like, a document on a desk somewhere

Although we may now have a mutation for reading human writing...

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
if it connects to something online and out of game

i'm thinking it could be a document
potentially in a location that has been touched up

[fast forge]

If it's a location, I figured we'll just get something revealed in #isle-phase-three

[acoustic osprey]

i hope not

from Don's text
it seems less "when you find it, i'll reveal it"

[hexed forge]

The small checkpoint between east and NE looks different for Dondi, he said.

Which happens to be the location theorized to be a port

[fast forge]

yeah the one with the new pond right next to the ocean

[hexed forge]

Yep

[fast forge]

tbh it might just be that they've finished E18

toss a document in there or something

[acoustic osprey]

has to have lore though
I doubt it'll just be a locational aspect

unless it is
because we goon over anything

[hexed forge]

A port location could have lore

An incident on the port of when they tried unloading an asset from a ship

[fast forge]

I kinda wonder if it's something big, like a dome finally opening. It seems unlikely, but it would be fun, and would certainly be enough for a document in phase three

[hexed forge]

Could be anything really

[hexed forge]

Ooo, Dome being opened would be awesome

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/saruman-palantir-gif-19765279

has to be something

[hexed forge]

I bet Isaac you probably know and you just arent telling us

[acoustic osprey]

Ha, i wish

but no, I know nothing of what is and will be coming

[fast forge]

updaaaate

[hexed forge]

Update... I wonder if its in this patch.

[acoustic osprey]

Well
only one way to find out

[fast forge]

servers still down it seems....

[acoustic osprey]

heck
Don did this announcement

there is a potential

[pseudo fable]

It is only because Punch is unavailable to post it.

[lethal moat]

I see

[hexed forge]

So no lore this patch?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-aww-cute-gif-14256322

[hexed forge]

[pseudo fable]

No; just enjoy... or try to. Who knows how badly the world is going to beat up sparring.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/swiper-dora-man-oh-man-gif-4392994

[fast forge]

I just play ptera and watch it unfold

[acoustic osprey]

guess i'm still dibbling then

[hexed forge]

I am growing a carno right now, this is perfect, I could kill all the new BB dibbles.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/amir-lotan-platfus-domino-en-garde-on-garde-gif-15019641

[fast forge]

still not a cerato...

[hexed forge]

I played cerato 2 days ago and killed 3 dibbles as a duo, its fun

[hexed forge]

Watch out for a carno going 58Km/h (With the speed mutation)

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-carnotaurus-dinosaur-opening-gate-jurassic-world-dominion-gif-12305622021044290104

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

Shame to know no lore though
but I'm glad, got work in a bit!

[lethal moat]

Still not at my pc

[meager junco]

Me just want Shirley

[swift echo]

when n spino

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

jeez discussion goes nuts when hordetest goes down

glad I have this chill place...

[acoustic osprey]

lol

my isle isn't working
back to Ck3 it is.

seems like I will have to play after work

if Dondi was deceiving us and you guys found anything
make sure to send

[hexed forge]

The server with the carno isnt loading in so Ig im dilo now

[hexed forge]

I could go check right now but Im not sure if its worth to sacrifice my dilo for, but I shall think about it.

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt Don lied
go about your journey, if something interesting happens, note it down i suppose

[hexed forge]

Black Death

[unique eagle]

I peeked in here for my first time, and the first thing I see are truly magnificent eyebrow-hats! OwO! This is good channel yes. -w-.

[lethal moat]

We go insane every now and again

[unique eagle]

Clearly not insane enough if you can manifest eyebrow-hats like that. -w-.

[lethal moat]

Yeah, this place is usually on topic

[unique eagle]

Niftles. -w-. Is there a catch-up course for new dragons? <w<'

[lethal moat]

We’ve got this, as well as a podcast and a server if you’re interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[unique eagle]

Thank OwO!

Are PMs from derg, acceptable? <w<'

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[unique eagle]

OwO!

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048536975323451402/1238081418412953681/giffka.gif

[valid geyser]

LORE??

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[hexed forge]

Yes soon, for real this time

[acoustic osprey]

quite literally

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

[strange shell]

I can't tell what is running after the teno
Is it another teno ?

Canibaloing

[lethal moat]

We need to update the “yes rumple” meme

[valid geyser]

How so..?

[lethal moat]

It has my old pfp

[valid geyser]

I see i see..

[acoustic osprey]

said the blindman

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/uno-reverse-card-gif-24856155

[fast forge]

uwu said the blind man

[lethal moat]

OvO

[fast forge]

owl

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-owls-owls-rule-gif-5443485

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-owl-exterminator-gif-15186027

[lethal moat]

Stealth flier niche quetz

[acoustic osprey]

all right

was thinking
should we, before next HT, pinpoint hotspots we would like to explore for the next HT drop?

[lethal moat]

Explore existing bases, GUTS entrances, coasts, then I guess just a random search

[fast forge]

Aerial scan to look for new structures/fences

[lethal moat]

The idea of someone accidentally ending up on the island without knowing what it is is funny to me for whatever reason

[pseudo fable]

I have not written anything like that. No washups on the shore.

[lethal moat]

Damn

I wanted someone to get interrogated and genuinely not know what they’re talking about

[meager junco]

Guess the islands are far off from any plane or boat routes

[lethal moat]

Or wrecks aren’t common, which is accurate

[lethal moat]

“What in tarnation is a austroraptor, I just saw a big ass bird”

[meager junco]

I honestly wonder if the islands themselves are mapped in the isles world, like on globes and stuff, or if the islands are completely uncharted

[lethal moat]

I’d say with satellites and the resources needed for supplies and structures on gateway, even if it was uncharted, it wouldn’t be anymore

One does not simply transport 6 oil rigs worth of steel to an island without anybody noticing

[meager junco]

Yeh and we know Apollo isn’t a small company, and AE is probably well known as well, maybe the airways are illegal and you can’t ride your boat near or some sort of coastguard by AE stops you

[lethal moat]

Ae registers it’s own islands as individual countries to take advantage of Exclusive economic zones

Lol

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/coast-guard-us-coast-guard-united-states-coast-guard-gif-12213794

[lethal moat]

Mmm

Submarines

[meager junco]

I honestly haven’t even thought about subs, but I’m sure it’s something AE would have, especially if marine reptiles are to come in the future

[lethal moat]

A few of those little research pod things would be nice

[meager junco]

Go James Cameron on the island’s sea floor

[lethal moat]

I want there to be a Steve Irwin figure working for AE

[meager junco]

Maybe a mix of Steve Irwin and Owen Grady

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/edward-jackson-edward-jackson-x-alligator-steve-irwin-crocodile-alligator-gif-1368357571653281934

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-irwin-thumbs-up-excellent-good-nice-gif-12489752465770264074

[lethal moat]

How to train your dragon moment with a neuro giga

[meager junco]

Or with….matriarch

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

old tap concept matriarch

[lethal moat]

Adorable

[hexed forge]

Howdy

[lethal moat]

Hi

[hexed forge]

Is this referring to gen 2s?

[lethal moat]

It’s referring to shipwrecks and whatnot, at least that’s the context I was using

Just random people washing up on the island

[hexed forge]

Ah k

I wonder if there is some sort of natural barrier that makes it not possible for wash-ups to appear.

But I doubt it

Or maybe the island is just separated from the major shipping routes. Not close to any human activity.

[meager junco]

Just a lil gal

[elder notch]

I was working on that to film it one day, i have a script. Like a miniseries of 5 episodes.

[lethal moat]

Nice

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wilson-castaway-gif-6160618

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bnkrB.gif

[lethal moat]

Just a lil guy

Wouldn’t hurt a fly

[hexed forge]

The lil guys like hugs

[lethal moat]

Can I hug them?

[hexed forge]

Sure, just sign this contract-

Ignore the naming... Thousand life contract

[lethal moat]

Nah, I’d win

Would sign it

What’s the worst that could happen

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bFA2b.gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-sign-rumpelstiltskin-gif-27469999

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/contract-official-document-sign-signature-gif-10074618

[lethal moat]

Aren’t you the one that thinks it’s horrible and torture?

[hexed forge]

You will now be randomly picked up in a white van at 3 AM, you might pass out however 😊

[hexed forge]

Its a 50/50 depending on 2 things.

[lethal moat]

I’m usually awake at that time, I’ll nap on the way there

[hexed forge]

If the EIPs can feel pain and remember their deaths. It would be torture. But if they cant, eh.

[lethal moat]

I don’t think it’d be that bad

I could totally do it

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[lethal moat]

Yolo, I got this

[fast forge]

that animal is like 40% skull

like a dibble

[hexed forge]

Give him a hug

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/anfi-tdcsvt-cereal-wall-gif-18820461

[hexed forge]

What did the lil guy do

[lethal moat]

He didn’t sign on the dotted line

Or rather, he didn’t hold up the deal we made

[hexed forge]

Send him to tartarus..

[lethal moat]

Nah, I do things differently

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/bobby-hill-bicycle-riding-cowboys-cowboy-gif-1022948746026166453

[fast forge]

Burrowing owl?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

Just because it's so small and looked very comfortable on the ground

[lethal moat]

Yep

Wonder if Apollo owns any mining or boring companies

[hexed forge]

Amber mines (Joke, JP reference)

[lethal moat]

It’s make expanding GUTS easier I would imagine

[hexed forge]

But I could see AE owning an oil company.

https://tenor.com/view/petrol-station-gif-23573443

[lethal moat]

That’s more drilling than mining or boring

[hexed forge]

I know its drilling, but I count it as boring

[lethal moat]

I don’t, a 6 inch tube and a walkable or drivable tunnel are two very different things

[meager junco]

[hexed forge]

Which one do you find boring? The mining or Oil drilling.

[lethal moat]

Boring is it’s own thing

[lethal moat]

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_boring_machine&sa=U&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwj629nu3ceGAxUvGVkFHapKLekQFnoECCoQAQ&usg=AOvVaw101mnf005U10CyfvyAKurt

[hexed forge]

oh my god Im so stupid

I thought you meant the other meaning of boring

[lethal moat]

Nah, i see hard mining as the first option, with boring as a secondary, and maybe drilling for some ventilation shafts

[hexed forge]

Thats my bad, I apologize.

[lethal moat]

You’re good, a word that means two different things is a fault if the English language

[heavy zenith]

what is te full lore of the isle? any can send me all full lore pls thanks

[lethal moat]

The full lore isn’t known yet, but I can send you what we know so far

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/marge-i-just-think-theyre-neat-the-simpsons-neat-potato-gif-8549864

[lethal moat]

There’s a lot of things that are neat

[hexed forge]

Like The Isle

[lethal moat]

Like the resupply points in GUTS, I imagine them as small warehouses, incentivizing gen 2 to mostly stay underground

Now I’m imagining caravans of a larger group going down to GUTS to get food with their vehicles, the more I think about large organized groups of gen 2, the more i realize how much freedom this game could offer

[heavy zenith]

yes pls

[lethal moat]

There’s this, we also have a podcast and the lore server if you’re interested: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

JP 2 could be viable with a large enough group if they play their cards right

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-the-lost-world-dinosaur-stampede-parasaurolophus-gif-22515129

I loved the silly vehicles and equipment in that movie

[lethal moat]

Exactly, I think ATVs would be perfect for gateway

The terrain matches would fit well, though I guess it would depend on exactly what type of tasks AE would be performing involving the dinosaurs on the island

[fast forge]

the stupid jeeps with telescoping passenger seats

[lethal moat]

Way better to just remove the windshield

[fast forge]

well I think the idea is to use the sidecar seats to like, catch galli and pachy or something

[lethal moat]

Grab it lol

[fast forge]

with those animal control snare poles

[lethal moat]

I’d rather jump on it

[crystal cairn]

back to my mutation/lore hunting

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dog-whats-up-hello-there-jump-gif-18064360

[fast forge]

Now as an adult and a scientist I can say this method of just trying to go out and round up animals is pretty dumb. Much better off setting trap cages or using tranqs from a helicopter

[lethal moat]

Real AE employees wrestle deinos with their bare hands

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-irwin-thumbs-up-excellent-good-nice-gif-4860119

[lethal moat]

That’s what I’m sayin

[fast forge]

Real AE employees ask the deino to come along nicely, and it does because that's his friend Joe in there

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/supernatural-misha-collins-cas-castiel-spn-gif-6081855

[fast forge]

the mysterious status of EIP's makes it hard to really conjecture anything...

[crystal cairn]

out of context screenshots from lore hunting testing that I think Don may appreciate

we back at it tonight

[fast forge]

What is the "PULL" from?

[crystal cairn]

the disposal bins at some of the human bases

I tried to pull

[fast forge]

[lethal moat]

Knowing anything other than the connection to the TOMB would be nice

[fast forge]

But my point is more that our lack of knowledge here kinda flows into everything else
We can't conjecture about dinosaur behavior because we don't know if they might act like humans
We can't understand AE as a company, as a work environment until we understand EIP's
We have no real idea about the thousand life contract until we learn more about EIP's
There's just so much

[lethal moat]

We don’t know anything about EIPs potentially changing, so there’s even more wiggle room

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-nye-question-things-think-critical-thinker-questions-gif-8357262

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-think-thinking-gif-4280214517394111861

[lethal moat]

Anything that we know the name of that isn’t explained can be changed or mean something we don’t expect

[hexed forge]

TOMB

[lethal moat]

We have very little to go off of

[lethal moat]

Mainly this and that TOMB being connected to EIPs #isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

ye

[lethal moat]

The TOMB is probably not just for one thing if there’s broken vats and things relating to EIPs in there, unless the things in the vats are related to EIPs

EIPs is the big unknown piece at the moment

I think we should focus on what makes sense and what could be changing

[fast forge]

I forget, do we know where the TOMB is? Is it on Gateway?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[hexed forge]

Since its related to EIPs, what if its sort of a database?

[lethal moat]

Could be

[fast forge]

What if the O in TOMB is Orbital?

[lethal moat]

Wack

[fast forge]

Keep a databank in space

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah, Dondi said that Jolly's idea was close. Let me find that.

[lethal moat]

Eh, could work, but I don’t think so, especially since the TOMB is able to be purged

[fast forge]

It can't be purged in space?

[hexed forge]

The messages with his real ID got deleted

I bet Dondi did that so we cant find his msgs.

[lethal moat]

It’s a hassle

[fast forge]

yeah you can't search up Don

tbh I understand it

[lethal moat]

Could be, but also vats and preservation fluids

[hexed forge]

Nonon, when you search it up. There was a msg that said his real ID. Thats how you look it up.

[wary goblet]

how to find out how to discover mutations

[fast forge]

eh, you can store genetic code in a digital format

[lethal moat]

Yeah, it doesn’t work

[lethal moat]

Trial and error

[hexed forge]

It did for me?

[fast forge]

ask in #isle-discussion

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but this feels very physical #isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

A sip is a sip, that's 50/50 to me

That's just saying "I'm not sayin nothin"

[lethal moat]

I think it’s a hint in the right direction

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

or it's him trying not to laugh because it's the exact opposite, you can't tell

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/realize-whoa-mindblown-wtf-albino-gif-5049830

[lethal moat]

I usually search by keywords

[hexed forge]

It works tho

Anyways now where the heck is this Jolly theory

Okay my brain remembered something else.. Its not clear if it was correct or not, likely not.

[lethal moat]

Yeah, it’s a fun acronym

[median shuttle]

water access = poseidon entry?

[hexed forge]

I doubt

[fast forge]

Is that new? I don't think those were open before

[lethal moat]

Eh, maybe, but I doubt it

[median shuttle]

me neither

[lethal moat]

Seeing generator rooms in there would be epic

[hexed forge]

I dont think they were open before, but either way, I dont think its the poseidon entry.

[median shuttle]

oh yeah

[lethal moat]

Hydroelectric powah

[hexed forge]

Powahhh

[fast forge]

would be interesting to get a water pouring animation in those spots

[lethal moat]

Is there a surface entrance planned or would it be GUTS only

[median shuttle]

I think you could swim in the openings but on no other surface entry

[lethal moat]

Blender going in that way

[fast forge]

Unreal going out

[lethal moat]

You know what happens now

The bad puns shall not continue or the hypsi gets plinked

[hexed forge]

Why did the chicken cross the road

To die.

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

[hybrid wagon]

i think Poseidon entry is the big underwater base seen on older gateway artworks

[lethal moat]

Top left?

[hybrid wagon]

yes

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hybrid wagon]

perhaps

[fast forge]

GW-F5

[lethal moat]

I’m leaning towards something involving GUTS or the reading mutation for the lore drop

[fast forge]

tbh that location is more like C/D-4

[lethal moat]

Documents for the reading mutation would be epic

[hexed forge]

Ohohoh, that would make sense actually. Add some ingame documents.

[fast forge]

Oh you mean documents about the reading mutation?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

Yeah that's what I was thinking

[lethal moat]

I think it makes the most sense given the current horde test

[fast forge]

Okay documents that are accessed with the reading mutation, not like, a document in #isle-phase-three about the reading mutation

[lethal moat]

We need to be sure to check the papers on desks and in folders

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[hexed forge]

No, not both.

[hexed forge]

How the heck would AE make a report on a raptor able to read a document.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-oh-yeah-its-all-coming-together-the-emperorss-new-groove-gif-15204610

[lethal moat]

No, we would read the documents as the raptor in game

[hexed forge]

New location with it too maybe!!

[hexed forge]

You were saying both

[lethal moat]

I misread that, my bad

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

We should hang out around the human bases and try to get that mutation

Maybe spend a ton of time inside?

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah, how the heck do we get that mutation

Perhaps spend a lot of time around human structure maybe yeah

yk... maybe its in right now.. and no one ever tested it.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-merrymen-shrek-summon-gif-21949833

[brazen saffron]

can someone explain the lore to the isle please?

[hexed forge]

Read the document first https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

We also have a lore server and a podcast if you’re interested

[hexed forge]

Not the lore server!!

[brazen saffron]

ooo somthing to get interested in for the next week

[lethal moat]

Want a link to the podcast? I’ve been told it’s good to just have on in the background

[brazen saffron]

yes please

[lethal moat]

https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=aitLoSfsRAWy_c7MtfZ22w

We should try nesting inside human structures, maybe they get the mutation that way

[hexed forge]

Docktah...

[hybrid wagon]

I bet nesting would have some sort of effect on possible lore specific mutations

[fast forge]

this seems extremely likely

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1167557586699178054/1213270831220654152/IMG_1678.png?ex=66639b83&is=66624a03&hm=4ecbad8ef4c144bfa4f781a48a1f792f8429f3ae1f76fbe0da51bc08affda019&

You know what this means?

[hexed forge]

Whose up to nesting as raptor in a human structure tmr ?

[lethal moat]

UWUTAH WEDDING AT THE DOCKS TO FIND LORE!